[ CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Bill Wells]
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ALL RIGHT.WELCOME TO THE ALCON CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
WE CONTINUE HOLDING MEETINGS REMOTELY WHILE THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER CONTINUES TO BE IN EFFECT DUE TO THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.
I'D LIKE TO REMIND OUR CITIZENS.
THEY CAN SUBMIT QUESTIONS FOR ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
AS WE HAVE DONE IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, I ENCOURAGE THAT PUBLIC COMMENTS BE SUBMITTED AT THIS TIME.
THEY WILL BE READ AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.
DURING THIS MEETING, COMMENTS WILL BE ACCEPTED UP TO THE CONCLUSION OF THE VOTE OF THE ITEM.
COMMENTS MAY BE SUBMITTED THROUGH THE CITY OF ALCOHOLICS WEBSITE AND THAT'S CITY OF ALCOHOL.US UNDER AGENDAS AND MINUTES.
GO TO VIDEO STREAMING AND YOU WILL SEE A BUTTON TO SUBMIT YOUR COMMENTS.
THIS MEETING IS NOW CALLED THE ORDER.
I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR CITY CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL.
SIMON, CAN YOU PLEASE CONFIRM THAT YOU ARE CALLING YOUR NAME? I'M HERE, DEPUTY MAYOR OR TEAS? YES, I'M HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER KENDRICK HERE, AND COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN PRESENT.
UH, WOULD YOU ALL JOIN ME WITH THE SAYING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THEN AFTER THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE REMAIN SILENT FOR A BRIEF MOMENT, AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED OUR NATION AS WE CELEBRATE VETERAN'S DAY TOMORROW.
AND LET'S START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT MY FRIEND, BOB MCLEOD.
WHO'S HAVING HIS LAST MEETING.
IT WAS LAST OFFICIAL MEETING AFTER 28 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE CITY OF ALCOHOL.
YOU WANT TO MAKE A LITTLE SPEECH? OKAY.
I JUST, THAT IT'S BEEN A JOY TO BE ABLE TO DO SOME OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE FOR THE CITY AND IN THE CITY AND FOR THE, UH, MORAL COMMUNITY.
UH, THAT WAS ONE OF MY MAIN FUNCTIONS OR REASONS FOR GETTING INVOLVED WITH IT.
CITY COUNCIL HAD SOME GREAT WINS, A MEMBER DOING AWAY WITH A CIGARETTE MACHINES AND NO SMOKING IN RESTAURANTS AFTER I GOT ELECTED.
AND THEN, UH, UH, KIND OF GARY CAME ALONG AND HE PICKED UP THAT BANNER AND HAS BEEN DOING MOST OF THAT WITH MY NECES.
UH, CAUSE HE, WE REALLY WOULD DISCUSS IT FIRST GENERALLY.
AND UH, AND THEN, UH, THE ALCOHOL AND TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER, A COUPLE OF HOTELS SPEND A LOT OF GOOD THINGS HAVE HAPPENED IN THE, UH, UH, CITY COUNCIL, UH, THE, THE, UH, MAGNOLIA THEATER, UH, GETTING OPENED AND THEN HAVING TO CLOSE IT RIGHT AWAY AGAIN.
BUT, UH, UH, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF WONDERFUL THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED.
UH, OUR CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY IS GROWN AND FLOURISHED AND, UM, MADE A GOOD, UH, ORAL FIBER AND THINGS.
SOME OF THE THINGS THEY'VE DONE IN THE CITY, IT'S REALLY A POSITIVE OF THE 40 DAYS OR, AND ALL THAT MARBLE THING.
UH, BEEN A LOT OF THINGS THAT WEREN'T TO UNDERSTAND, BUT, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS YOU COULD DO THEN OUT MAKE HAPPEN.
IT REALLY IN A BLESSING TO ME.
SO, UH, I'M, I'M, I'M READY TO RETIRE AFTER 28 AND A HALF YEARS.
THIS IS NOT YOUR OFFICIAL RETIREMENT DATE.
UH, NO, WE WERE HAVING A OFFICIAL PROGRAM AT THE NEXT MEETING, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO PROBABLY A GOODBYE THEN AND SWEARING IN OF THE NEW COUNCIL.
WELL, WE LOOK FORWARD TO THAT, BUT, UH, THIS IS STILL A BIG, BIG DAY WITH YOUR LAST OFFICIAL MEETING.
UM, THE CITY CLERK POSTED ORDERS ARE GERMAN OF THE OCTOBER 27TH, 2020 MEETING AND THE AGENDA OF THE NOVEMBER 10TH, 2020 MEETING
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IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW COUNSELING AND HOUSING AUTHORITY POLICY.UH, WHAT AGENDA CHANGES STAFF.
DO YOU HAVE ANY AGENDA CHAIRS? MR. MAYOR? WE HAVE NO RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THE AGENDA.
[7. CONSENT ITEMS: Consent Items are routine matters enacted by one motion according to the RECOMMENDATION listed below. With the concurrence of the City Council, a Council Member or person in attendance may request discussion of a Consent Item at this time.]
THEN TO CONSENT ITEMS, CONSENT ITEMS ARE ROUTINE MATTERS ENACTED BY ONE MOTION.ACCORDING TO THE RECOMMENDATION WILL SIT BELOW WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, A COUNCIL MEMBER OR PERSON IN ATTENDANCE MAY REQUEST DISCUSSION WITH A CONSENT ITEM AT THIS TIME.
DOES ANYBODY WANT TO PULL A CONSENT ITEM? NOPE.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS SECOND.
AND FOR THE RECORD WE RECEIVED COMMENTS FOR CONSENT ITEMS. MAYOR WELLS.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
[ PUBLIC COMMENT: At this time, any person may address a matter within the jurisdiction of the City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the El Cajon Redevelopment Agency that is not on the Agenda. Comments relating to items on today’s docket are to be taken at the time the item is heard. State law prohibits discussion or action on items not on the Agenda; however, Council, Authority and Agency Members may briefly respond to statements or questions. An item may be placed on a future Agenda.]
THE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS A MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE ALCOHOL REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA COMMENTS RELATED TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA ARE TO BE TAKEN AT THE TIME OF THE AD WAS HEARD STATE LAW PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ITEMS, NOT ON THE AGENDA.
HOWEVER, CITY COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND TO STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS AND AN ITEM MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
ANGELA, DID WE SEE ANY COMMENTS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DID, SIR.
WE RECEIVED TWO COMMENTS FROM THE SAME PERSON, SO I WILL READ THEM TOGETHER AND IT'S FROM FRIDAY GORGEOUS.
AND THE FIRST COMMENT IS BECAUSE OF THE RISING NUMBER OF COVID-19 CASES HAS PUSHED THE COUNTY INTO THE MOST RESTRICTIVE LEVEL.
HOW, HOW WILL THIS AFFECT OUR CHILDREN? AS YOU KNOW, THE SCHOOL IS STILL OPEN IN THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.
THE SECOND COMMENT, WHAT IS THE MEANING OF AMERICA ACADEMY OF SOCIAL WORK AND SOCIAL WELFARE QUESTION MARK AND NO MORE COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED.
I, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF SOCIAL WORK, SOCIAL WARFARE.
I IT'S, UH, THAT'S A FOREIGN THING TO ME, BUT UH, I ASSUME THAT IT HAS TO DO WITH SOCIAL WORKERS.
ARE THERE OTHER WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS ON TODAY'S AGENDA? AND THAT BRINGS US TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
[10. First Amendment to FY 2020-21 One-Year Action Plan to Reallocate Available CDBG Funds (Crisis House, Inc.) RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council: Opens the public hearing and accepts public testimony for the 1st Amendment to the FY 2020-21 One-Year Action Plan; Closes the public hearing; and Adopts the next Resolution, in order, Amending the FY 2020-21 One-Year Action Plan to: Re-allocate and appropriate $700,000 in identified Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) Funds to Crisis House, Inc., for assistance with property acquisition to provide CDBG-eligible services to East County residents; and Authorize the City Manager, or designee, to enter into an agreement with Crisis House, Inc., for the use of funds for real property acquisition, make the necessary changes to the One-Year Action Plan, and submit all required documentation to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.]
ITEM TO CONSIDER ITEM 10 IS REGARDING A FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE 2021 ONE-YEAR ACTION PLAN AND STAFFY.PLEASE TELL US ABOUT THIS RED, UH, JUNI BEN ROBINSON IS GOING TO BE GIVING A PRESENTATION AND HAS GOT ON.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO AMEND THE ONE-YEAR ACTION PLAN FOR REALLOCATING $700,000 AND THE CDBG FUNDS FOR THE ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY FOR CRISIS HOUSE AFFECTION REFLECTS THE CITY COUNCIL'S INTENTIONS AND COMMITMENT OUTLINED IN THE AMENDED LEASE TERMINATION AGREEMENT, UH, THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED ON JULY 28TH OF 20.
SO COUNCIL I'M SORRY, CRISIS HOUSE HAS NOW ENTERED INTO ESCROW FOR PROPERTY AT NINE FIVE FIVE ZERO NORTH VIA MACA STREET IN SAN TE AND IS SEEKING THIS GRANT FUNDING IN ORDER TO CLOSE ESCROW ON OR ABOUT NOVEMBER 30TH OF 2020.
AND THEY HAVE INDICATED THERE'LL BE VACATED IN THE PROPERTY AT 10 34 NORTH MAGNOLIA AVENUE BY DECEMBER 31ST OF 2020 CRISIS HOUSE HAS ALSO COMMITTED TO CONTINUING TO PROVIDE ESSENTIAL SERVICES FOR THE HOMELESS AND FOR VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE THROUGHOUT THE EAST COUNTY REGION, INCLUDING OKLAHOMA.
SO FOUNDS WILL BE TEMPORARILY REALLOCATED FROM THE WELLS PARK PROJECT CURRENTLY UNDERWAY, AND ALSO SOME OF THE CDBG ALEC, AN ALLOCATED FUND BALANCE AS DESCRIBED IN THE AGENDA REPORT FOR THIS ITEM.
UH, AS THE FINAL STEP IN THIS PROCESS, CRISIS HOUSE WILL ENTER AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY FOR CONTINUATION OF THOSE ESSENTIAL SERVICES IN THE NEW LOCATION, THE AGREEMENT WILL REQUIRE THEM TO REPORT ON THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS AND HOUSEHOLDS SERVED, INCLUDING ALCOHOL RESIDENTS
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AND THE TYPES OF SERVICES PROVIDED FOR A TEN-YEAR PERIOD.STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AMEND THE ONE-YEAR ACTION PLAN AND REALLOCATE THE FUNDS TO CRISIS HOUSE WITH THE ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY, FOR THE PROVISION OF THE CDBG ELIGIBLE SERVICES.
AND WE ARE PREPARED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
YOU MAY HAVE COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS.
I JUST, UM, I THINK YOU ANSWERED THIS QUESTION ALREADY, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE, UM, WE HAD, UH, A SET, A DEADLINE TO GET EVERYBODY MOVED OUT AND SO THAT THEY COULD GET THE FUNDING.
I THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
ESCROW'S LACK OF TO CARRY PAST THE DEADLINE.
ARE WE, ARE WE GOING TO, ARE THEY GOING TO BE IN THEIR NEW PLACE BY THE TIME THE DEADLINE'S UP WAS MY QUESTION, MR. MERRICK, I CAN ANSWER THAT.
UM, BASED ON, AND WE'RE ALREADY MOVING THINGS OUT.
UM, THEIR INTENTION IS TO BE OUT ACTUALLY A FEW WEEKS BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO I THINK THEY WILL MAKE THAT DEADLINE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS? IF NOT, WE'LL GO ON TO, UH, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
ANGELA, DO YOU RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS? WE RECEIVED NO COMMENTS OR PRESSURE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU, MAYOR WEALTH, YOUR VOTE PLEASE? YES.
COUNCIL MEMBER KENDRICK COUNCIL MEMBER, KENDRICK.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
THIS SEEMS LIKE A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM.
IT SOUNDS LIKE EVERYTHING WORKED OUT EXACTLY THE WAY WE HAD INTENDED IT TO.
SO WE SHOULD BE HAPPY ABOUT THIS.
I'M HAPPY TO TAKE A MOTION AT THIS POINT TO IMPROVE.
BEFORE ANGELA, DO YOU NEED A MORE DETAILED THAN THAT, MORGAN? OKAY.
SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE JANUARY PROGRAM RECOMMENDS.
DEPUTY MAYOR OR COUNCIL MEMBER OF GLOBAL.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
ALL THE HARD WORK YOU PUT INTO THIS.
[11. Approval of Pension Obligation Bonds RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council adopts the next Resolution, in order, to approve the Preliminary Official Statement prepared for the issuance of Pension Obligation Bonds, approve the issuance of the Pension Obligation Bonds, and approve associated documents.]
ALL RIGHT.WE HAVE SIX ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
ITEM 11 IS THE APPROVAL OF THE PENSION OBLIGATION, BONDS AND STAFF.
YOU PLEASE TELL US ABOUT THIS GOOD AFTERNOON, HONORABLE MAILER AND DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE FOR THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.
UM, SHOULD BE JOINING US HERE TODAY.
WE'LL BE JULIO MIRALIS OR MUNICIPAL ADVISOR FROM URBAN FUTURES AND REGROW PART OF OUR BOND COUNCIL FROM STRUGGLING YOKA CARLSON IN WEALTH.
SHOULD WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR EITHER OF THEM? SO FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION, UH, THE FIRST QUESTION WE WANT TO ASK YOU IS WHY POB IS WE WANT TO SPEND SOME TIME DISCUSSING, UH, THE FUNDAMENTAL REASONS WHY WE'RE PURSUING THIS STRATEGY, AS WELL AS DISCUSSING SOME OF THE RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO DISCUSS, AND THIS WILL BE THROUGHOUT THE DISCUSSION, UM, OUR OUTLOOK STRATEGY, AS WELL AS THE PROCESS AT WHICH POINT WE'LL ALSO RUN YOU THROUGH THE RECOMMENDED ACTIONS AND THEN OPEN THE FLOOR TO DISCUSSIONS ON THE MATTER TO GET US UP TO SPEED.
I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO START.
THIS CHURCH SHOULD LOOK FAMILIAR.
WE PRESENTED IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL TWO WEEKS AGO AS PART OF THE PRESENTATION OF THE, UH, PENSION FUNDING POLICY.
AND I THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD WAY TO START WITH THE WHY, UH, POB ARE BEING PURSUED.
SIMPLY PUT THAT TOP LINE REPRESENTS THE STATUS OF OUR PENSION FUNDS ARE TWO FUNDS ARE SAFETY FUND AND OUR MISCELLANEOUS SAFETY PLAN AND OUR MISCELLANEOUS PLAN.
THE PLANS COLLECTIVELY HAVE A TOTAL LIABILITY OF APPROXIMATELY $579 MILLION FOR RICH WE'VE SET ASIDE APPROXIMATELY $372 MILLION.
THE SHORTFALL LEADS TO AN UNFUNDED LIABILITY OF APPROXIMATELY $207 MILLION.
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UM, ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT, UH, ON THE SLIDE, WHICH WE'LL COME BACK TO LATER IN THE DISCUSSION IS, UH, WE HAVE NINE YEARS OF VALUATIONS REPRESENTED HERE, UH, GOING FROM THE MOST RECENT AT THE TOP, UH, GETTING OLDER AS YOU WORK DOWN THE PAGE.AND AS YOU CAN SEE OVER THE NINE YEARS PRESENTED HERE, WE'VE WATCHED THIS UNFUNDED LIABILITY, THE GAP BETWEEN THE ASSETS WE HAVE SET ASIDE AND THE LIABILITY, UH, GROW FROM APPROXIMATELY $126 MILLION TO THE $207 MILLION WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
UM, THE MAIN POINT OF THE, UH, PENSION OBLIGATION BOND IS WE ARE EFFECTIVELY BORROWING MONEY AT A LOW INTEREST RATE THROUGH THE ISSUANCE OF BONDS TO GIVE TO CALPERS, TO BRING THE ASSETS SET ASIDE FOR THESE PLANS, UH, TO BE ON PAR WITH THE LIABILITY AND IMPROVE OUR FUNDING STATUS FROM APPROXIMATELY 64% CLOSER TO BEING FULLY FUNDED, UNDERLINE THE WHY THIS IS AN ATTRACTIVE STRATEGY.
UH, I'D LIKE TO PRESENT THE CASHFLOW ANALYSIS.
THAT'S ALSO CONTAINED AS PART OF THE AGENDA REPORT.
I WON'T RUN YOU THROUGH ALL THE NUMBERS HERE, BUT I DO WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO A COUPLE OF THREE COLUMNS AND WHAT THEY MEAN IN TERMS OF AN ANALOGY WE HAVE USED THROUGHOUT THESE DISCUSSIONS.
ONE OF THE ANALOGIES WE'VE USED PRETTY REGULARLY IS THE CONCEPT OF REFINANCING YOUR MORTGAGE.
AND THIS CAN KIND OF TIE BACK TO THIS PRESENTATION IN THIS WAY.
I THINK WE CAN THINK OF THE COLUMN LABELED UAL PAYMENTS OR UNFUNDED ACCRUED LIABILITY, UH, PAYMENTS AS OUR EXISTING MORTGAGE.
THIS IS WHAT WE OWE TO CALPERS.
UM, EACH, UH, YEAR THEY ADD CALPERS ADDS A NEW LAYER TO THIS DEBT AND THEN AMORTIZE EACH OF THOSE LAYERS OUT THROUGH A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME COLLECTIVELY, UH, OUR SCHEDULED PAYMENTS RUN OUT FOR THE NEXT 24 YEARS AND TOTAL APPROXIMATELY $365.1 MILLION.
WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING WITH THE ISSUANCE OF POB IS, AND IT'S BASICALLY REFINANCING THAT MORTGAGE, UM, THAT DEBT SERVICE COLUMN, THE ONE RIGHT TO THE LEFT, UM, REPRESENTS OUR NEW MORTGAGE.
THE PROPOSED MORTGAGE, UM, HAS A, UH, AMORTIZATION PERIOD OF 20 YEARS.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY LESS THAN OUR CURRENT, UH, LENGTH OF PAYMENTS.
AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE TOTAL OF THESE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENTS TOTAL APPROXIMATELY $275 MILLION OVER 20 YEARS COLLECTIVELY OVER THAT WHOLE 24 YEAR SPAN, UH, WE'RE PROJECTING BASED ON THE ESTIMATES AND ASSUMPTIONS TIED INTO THIS ANALYSIS, UH, SAVINGS OF APPROXIMATELY $90.2 MILLION.
NOW IT SHOULDN'T BE SAID THAT THE, THESE PROJECTED SAVINGS GO WELL FOR A CONSIDERABLE LENGTH OF TIME INTO THE FUTURE.
UM, AND ALSO INCLUDED FOR THIS ANALYSIS IS A NET PRESENT VALUE OF THE SAVINGS, WHICH BASICALLY EXPRESSES, UH, THE, SOME OF THOSE SAVINGS IN TODAY'S DOLLARS, UH, UNDERSTANDING THE TIME VALUE OF MONEY, A DOLLAR IN THE FUTURE WAS WORTH LESS THAN A DOLLAR TODAY.
BUT EVEN WITH THAT CALCULATION, WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT A NET PRESENT VALUE OF THIS PROPOSED TRANSACTION OF APPROXIMATELY $64 MILLION.
UM, A COUPLE OF THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ABOUT IN THIS WORK IS THAT THIS ASSUMES A ISSUANCE OF $200 MILLION.
WHEN WE GET A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION, WE MAY TALK ABOUT, UH, DIFFERENT STRATEGIES AND OPINIONS.
UM, I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR IF WE DECIDE TO ISSUE A LOWER AMOUNT THAT WILL ALSO REDUCE THE SAVINGS WE'RE LIKELY TO EXPERIENCE.
UM, ALSO SAVINGS ARE NOT NECESSARILY LINEAR IN THAT IF YOU REDUCE THAT AMOUNT BY 10% DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THE SAVINGS WILL REDUCE 10% AS WELL, UH, OR ASSUMED STRUCTURE IS A 20 YEAR TERM.
UM, THIS IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT IN A FEW MINUTES AS WELL.
AND WE ALSO ARE ANTICIPATING, AND THIS IS A REASONABLE ESTIMATE OF WHAT WE'RE EXPECTING OF AN ISSUANCE COST AT A TRUE INTEREST COST OF APPROXIMATELY 3.19% OVERALL.
UM, ONE THING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS WORK THOUGH IS THAT IT DOES NOT ASSUME ANY NEW CALPERS LAYERS, NEW CALPERS DEBT, WHICH WILL EXPERIENCE YOUR AFTER YEARS OF NORMAL THROUGH THE NORMAL COURSE OF BUSINESS.
UM, THE REASON I BRING THIS UP AND STRESS THAT POINT SO STRONGLY IS DON'T WANT TO GIVE THE FALSE IMPRESSION THAT THIS IS A,
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UH, A ONE AND DONE KIND OF SOLUTION.WE WILL NOT REFINANCE OUR MORTGAGE AND THEN BE DONE WITH THIS ISSUE.
UM, CALPERS WILL ADD A NEW LAYER, A NEW AMORTIZATION LAYER EVERY YEAR.
AND THIS IS WHERE THAT PENSION FUNDING POLICY BECOMES IMPORTANT.
UM, IN THAT POLICY YOU'VE, YOU'VE, UH, APPROVED A POLICY THAT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES AND TALK ABOUT THEM ON A REGULAR BASIS TO KEEP US FROM SLIDING BACKWARDS AND, UH, REBUILDING THIS DEBT.
UH, ONCE WE'VE TAKEN THIS ACTION TO ADDRESS IT, UM, SOME OF THESE OTHER ACTIONS WHICH HELP SOME OF THE ISSUES RELATED TO POB, UH, INCLUDE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE PARS ONE TRUST AND RESERVES TO HELP ACCOMPLISH THOSE GOALS.
THIS TRANSACTION IS NOT WITHOUT RISK THOUGH.
AND I DO NOT WANT TO BE BASHFUL ABOUT THAT.
UH, THE LEADING PROFESSIONAL BODY IN GOVERNMENT FINANCES, THE GOVERNMENT FINANCE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION, AND THEY HAVE ISSUED ON ADVISORY A VERY STRONGLY WORDED ADVISORY AGAINST THE ISSUANCE OF POB IS THIS POSITION IS WORDED SO STRONGLY THAT I HAVE CREATED THE, THE POINT SIN OF PUTTING AN AWFUL LOT OF WORDS ON A SLIDE AND THEN READ THEM TO YOU.
UM, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
WE, WE LISTENED TO WHAT THE GFR WAY ADVISES ON THE SUBJECT PENSION OBLIGATION BONDS ARE TAXABLE BONDS THAT SOME STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE ISSUED AS PART OF AN OVERALL STRATEGY TO FUND THE UNFUNDED PORTION OF THEIR PENSION LIABILITIES BY CREATING DEBT.
THE USE OF POB IS RESTS ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT THE BOND PROCEEDS WHEN INVESTED WITH PENSION ASSETS IN HIGHER YIELDING ASSET CLASSES WILL BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE A RATE OF RETURN THAT IS GREATER THAN THE INTEREST RATE OWED OVER THE TERM OF THE BOND.
HOWEVER, YOU WILL BE USED IN BOTH CONSIDERABLE INVESTMENT RISK, MAKING THIS GOAL, VERY SPECULATIVE FAILING TO ACHIEVE THE TARGETED RATE OF RETURN BURDENS THE ISSUER WITH BOTH THE DEBT SERVICE REQUIREMENTS OF THE TAXABLE BONDS AND THE UNFUNDED PENSION LIABILITIES THAT REMAIN UNMET BECAUSE THE INVESTMENT PORTFOLIO DID NOT PERFORM AS ANTICIPATED IN RECENT YEARS, LOCAL JURISDICTIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE FACED INCREASED FINANCIAL STRESS.
AS A RESULT OF THE RELIANCE ON POB IS DEMONSTRATING THE SIGNIFICANT RISKS ASSOCIATED WITH THESE INSTRUMENTS FOR BOTH SMALL AND LARGE GOVERNMENTS.
IN ADDITION TO THIS QUOTE, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF POINTS THAT THEY CONTINUE TO ADDRESS, AND I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS EACH OF THEM BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE AWARE OF OUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS AND WHY WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THIS STRATEGY.
THE FIRST OF WHICH THEY COMMENT THAT THE INVESTED POB PROCEEDS MIGHT FAIL TO EARN MORE THAN THE INTEREST RATE OWED.
AND I WILL NOT SHY AWAY FROM THAT CRITICISM.
THAT IS THE BIGGEST RISK THAT CONCERNS ME AS WELL.
UM, WE'LL SPEND A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF TIME DISCUSSING THAT IN JUST A MOMENT.
THEY ALSO SUGGEST THAT POB ARE COMPLEX INSTRUMENTS THAT CARRY CONSIDERABLE RISK.
IT GOES ON A LIST, A NUMBER OF WAYS, UH, THAT SOMETIMES THESE ARRANGEMENTS, UH, UH, ADD COMPLEXITY.
AND THIS WAS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT, UH, FROM THE VERY GET-GO, UH, OF THIS DISCUSSION WAS WE PURSUED A VERY VANILLA OFFERING, A BASIC BOND ISSUANCE STRUCTURE AND DELIBERATELY AVOID SOME OF THE COMPLICATIONS AND RISK ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, UH, THESE ADDITIONAL COMPONENTS.
THEY ALSO CITE THAT, UH,
THIS ONE CAUSES ME A LITTLE BIT OF PAUSE.
UM, THE CITY OF ELKO COHEN HAS BEEN VERY, VERY CONSERVATIVE FOR, FOR DECADES, UM, AND HAS RELIED ON DEBT VERY, VERY MINIMALLY IN ITS PAST.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE NO GENERAL OBLIGATION DEBT IN THE SLIGHTEST.
UM, IT'S KIND OF, I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD AMUSING, BUT I FIND IT INTERESTING THAT IF WE WERE PURSUING A $200 MILLION BOND, LET'S SAY TO BUILD A NEW CITY HALL, THE JFC DOESN'T HAVE AN ADVISORY AGAINST THAT.
HOWEVER, UM, TO ISSUE DEBT, TAKE ON DEBT WHERE WE DON'T OTHERWISE HAVE IT TO ADDRESS OUR BIGGEST FINANCIAL FRED, IT SEEMS A LITTLE INCONSISTENT.
AND I THINK PART OF THAT STEMS
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FROM A LOT OF THE CITIES THAT HAVE GOTTEN IN TROUBLE WITH POB IS WE'RE ALREADY HIGHLY LEVERAGED AND WE'RE CIRCLING THE DRAIN IF YOU WILL, AND REALLY GETTING DESPERATE WITH, WITH WAYS TO PULL IT TOGETHER AND ISSUE POB IS WHEN THEY WERE ALREADY IN TROUBLE, HONESTLY.UM, THEY ALSO CITE THAT POB IS FREQUENTLY EXTEND THE REPAYMENT PERIOD LONGER THAN THE ACTUAL AMORTIZATION PERIOD.
UM, THAT WAS WHAT I WANT TO DRAW ATTENTION TO WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THE CASHFLOW ANALYSIS.
UM, WE ARE LOOKING TO SPREAD THE 25 OR 24 REMAINING YEARS OF OUR FIRST MORTGAGE, UH, OVER 20 YEARS IN OUR PROPOSED REFINANCING, UH, TO 20.
SO WE ARE DELIBERATELY LOOKING TO DO THE OPPOSITE AND SHORTEN THAT PERIOD.
LAST LIEN READING AGENCY C'S MAY NOT VIEW THE PROPOSED ISSUANCE OF PO BS AS CREDIT POSITIVE, PARTICULARLY IF THE ISSUANCE IS NOT PART OF A MORE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO ADDRESS PENSION FUNDING SHORTFALLS.
AND THIS IS AN AREA THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT, AND I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THE GFR WAY.
HOWEVER, WE HAVE BEEN VERY DILIGENT ABOUT PUTTING TOGETHER A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF TOOLS IN THE TOOLBOX TO ADDRESS IT.
UM, ALBEIT THIS IS ONE OF THE LARGER ONES, TO BE HONEST, LIKE I DON'T WANT TO CRITICIZE THE GFL WAY.
I THINK IF I WAS IN THEIR POSITION AND HAD TO ISSUE A COMMENT OR SOME SORT OF OPINION, THAT'S GOING TO SUIT EVERY ORGANIZATION NATIONWIDE, I'D PROBABLY TAKE THE SAME POSITION, BUT I WOULD ARGUE THAT ALCOHOL IS A LITTLE UNIQUE IN THAT WE ARE NOT STARTING THIS DISCUSSION FROM A POINT OF WEAKNESS, BUT RATHER FROM CONSIDERABLE STRENGTH IN TERMS OF OUR RESERVES AND PRIOR DEBT COMMITMENT.
UM, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT THE
AND THAT'S A DIFFICULT THING TO DO BECAUSE REALISTICALLY, IF WE DO NOT TAKE ACTION, THERE'S CONSIDERABLE RISK OF NOT DOING ANYTHING.
AS YOU SAW IN THAT FIRST SLIDE, OVER THAT NINE YEAR PERIOD, WE WALKED THAT YOU WILL GROW SIGNIFICANTLY.
UH, ALONG WITH THAT, OUR ANNUAL PAYMENTS TO CALPERS HAVE GROWN SIGNIFICANTLY, AND THERE'S NOTHING TO SUGGEST THAT THAT TREND WILL NOT CONTINUE.
UM, SO SIMPLY WE HAVE TO TAKE SOME SORT OF ACTION, UM, THAT LEADS US TO WHAT, WHAT ARE THE ALTERNATIVES? UM, WE HAVE TAKEN A NUMBER OF SMALLER ACTIONS THAT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT AND IS A MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
HOWEVER, THEY ALONE WILL NOT MAKE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THIS PROBLEM.
UM, WE REALISTICALLY, THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE THAT I SEE THAT COULD MAKE THE SAME KIND OF HEADWAY IS IF RATHER THAN ISSUING DEBT TO CREATE THE, THE, UH, INFLUX OF FUNDING INTO THE PENSION PLANS WOULD BE TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT CUTS TO THE CITY'S OPERATING IN BUDGET TO MAKE, UH, ADDITIONAL CONTRIBUTIONS IN THAT WAY.
AND FRANKLY, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE OUR PLAN A, I MEAN, I, I IT'S JUST SERIOUS ISSUES.
UM, BUT THE KIND OF CONTRIBUTIONS WE DO, WE TALKING ABOUT WOULD CREATE CONSIDERABLE HARDSHIP TO THE CITIZENS OF OKLAHOMA.
AND LASTLY, WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING RISK, A LOT OF THE CRITICISMS THAT VERY FIRST POINT IN MUCH OF THE DISCUSSION ABOUT INVESTMENT LOSS, FRANKLY, ISN'T INHERENT TO HAVING OUR PLANS ON DEPOSIT WITH CALPERS IN THE FIRST PLACE, REALISTICALLY, REGARDLESS OF WHERE THE FUNDING COMES FROM RISK OF CALPERS USING OUR MONEY EXISTS.
AND TO THAT POINT, UH, WE'LL MOVE INTO A SLIDE THAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE AS WELL.
UM, THIS IS A GRAPH REPRESENTING CALPERS, UH, HISTORICAL INVESTMENT RETURNS OVER 20 YEAR PERIOD.
AND I HAD MENTIONED LAST TIME I PRESENTED THIS, THAT I THOUGHT THIS WAS A LITTLE BIT MISLEADING BECAUSE IT SHOWS INVESTMENT RETURNS OVER OR BELOW ZERO, UH, THAT IS TO APPLY THAT IF IT'S A POSITIVE RETURN, IT'S A GOOD THING.
AND A NEGATIVE RETURN IS, AND SURELY NEGATIVE RETURN IS BAD, BUT REALISTICALLY, FOR THESE PLANS TO OPERATE, THEY HAVE TO HIT A TARGETED WEIGHT OF RETURN OF 7%.
SO REALISTICALLY, ANYTHING BELOW 7% IS A PROBLEM FOR US AND NEEDS TO BE MADE UP THROUGH ADDITIONAL CONTRIBUTIONS.
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IS TAKEN THAT SLIDE AND I'VE ADJUSTED IT BY THAT 7%.UM, WHILE THE ORIGINAL SLIDESHOW WAS A KIND OF A ROSY PICTURE SUGGESTING THAT, UH, 14 OF 20 YEARS WERE POSITIVE OR ABOVE THE LINE, UH, THIS TELLS QUITE A DIFFERENT STORY.
UM, ONE THING I WANT TO, THIS IS KIND OF AN NON-SCIENTIFIC ANECDOTAL ANALYSIS, UH, BUT JUST THE SENSE OF HOW MUCH BLUE YOUR SEEING ABOVE THAT LINE ABOVE THAT THRESHOLD VERSUS BELOW KIND OF TELLS A STORY HERE, UM, ADJUSTING THAT, THAT ACCESS TO 7%.
UH, NOW WE ONLY HAVE 11 OF 20 YEARS WHERE CALPERS HAVE PERFORMED BETTER THAN THE TARGET AMOUNT.
ONE OF THE POINTS IS THAT YOU FAILED TO EARN, UH, RETURNS ABOVE WHAT YOUR RATE OF YOUR BORROWING IS.
AND I HAVE ADJUSTED THAT SLIDE AGAIN, THIS TIME ADJUSTING THAT LINE TO A HYPOTHETICAL RATE OF, UH, THE BOND ISSUANCE RATE IN THIS CASE, UH, I USED 3.5%.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH AN ESTIMATE OF 3.19.
SO THIS IS ACTUALLY EVEN A LITTLE BETTER THAN THIS, UH, POINT, THIS PAINTS A LITTLE BIT BETTER STORY IN ORDER FOR US TO BE IN THE GOOD, IF YOU WILL.
UM, AND EARNING ABOVE THAT 3.5%, WE CAN SEE THAT CALPERS OVER THE LAST 20 YEARS HAS DONE THAT IN 13 OF 20 YEARS, STILL NOT, UH, STAGGERING, BUT THE SENSE OF HOW MUCH TIME THEY SPEND IN THE BLUE, ABOVE THE LINE VERSUS BELOW IS A LITTLE BIT MORE REASSURING.
ADDITIONALLY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COMPOUND RATE OF RETURN THAT THEY PRESENT FOR EACH OF THE PLANS IN THE ACTUARIAL VALUATIONS, THEY HAVE SURPASSED THE THRESHOLD, UH, FOR BOTH THE ONE FIVE, 10 AND 20 YEAR PERIODS, BUT WE'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE CONSIDERING WHISK AND THE POSSIBLE PERFORMANCE OF THIS, UH, STRATEGY.
THIS SLIDE SHOWS A WHAT'S CALLED A MONTE CARLO SIMULATION.
UH, I WON'T GO THROUGH EACH AND EVERY LINE REPRESENTED ON THE GRAPH.
THE ONLY TAKEAWAY ON THIS GRAPH IS THERE'S A LOT OF LINES.
AND WHAT THIS SHOWS IS THAT THIS ANALYSIS IS BASED ON 10,000 SEPARATE SCENARIOS OF POSSIBLE OUTCOMES OF THE STRATEGY IN DOING SO, IT KIND OF GIVES YOU A SENSE OF ODDS AND WHAT ARE THE ODDS, THE PROBABILITY OF SUCCESS, AND IN RUNNING THIS, UH, UH, ANALYSIS, I'M NOT SURE I PROPERLY CREDITED THIS WAS RUN BY, UH, URBAN FUTURES.
UH, JULIO MORALES, UH, PROVIDED THIS FOR US.
UM, WE HAD A PROBABILITY OF SUCCESS OF APPROXIMATELY 70% AND ALSO PROJECTED US TO THE GOOD BY SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 55 AND $60 MILLION.
BUT IN ADDITION TO BAT OR BOND, UNDERWRITERS HAVE ALSO PERFORMED SIGNIFICANT ANALYSIS ABOUT THIS STRATEGY IN THIS CASE PRESENTED, UH, THEY, SOME OF THEIR STRESS TESTING OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF, UM, IN THE FIRST LINE, THEIR BASE CASE SCENARIO IS A FULL ISSUANCE OF THE BOND.
PROCEEDS HAVE $200 MILLION ISSUANCE, UM, TO REFUND THE UAL AND THE PLANNER, CALPERS PLANS PERFORM AS TARGETED AT 7% RETURN.
AND THEY'RE LISTING A NET PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS OF $55.3 MILLION.
UM, THE NEXT LINE DOWN IS PROBABLY THE ONE SINGLE SCENARIO THAT SCARES PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THESE DECISIONS MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
AND IT'S SIGNIFICANT LOSSES IN THE FIRST YEAR.
UM, AND THIS IS, THIS IS THAT SCENARIO WHERE WE ISSUE BONDS.
WE GIVE IT OVER TO CALPERS AND THEN THEY IMMEDIATELY LOSE IN THIS CASE, A 20% LOSS IN THE FIRST YEAR.
AND THEN THE SCENARIO WOULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, NORMAL RETURNS AFTER THAT, IN THIS SCENARIO, WE STILL MANAGE TO BE TO THE GOOD, UH, BY $8 MILLION NET PRESENT VALUE.
SO IT CERTAINLY ISN'T ANYTHING TO DAYDREAM ABOUT, BUT IT DID STAND UP TO THAT TEST.
NOW, I CAN'T SAY THAT A 20% LOSS HAS NEVER HAPPENED.
WE CLEARLY SEE IN THE GRASS OR JUST PRESENTED THAT IT HAS HAPPENED.
UM, BUT I HOPE ALSO MOST PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THAT AS A FAIRLY INFREQUENT EVENT, ADDITIONALLY, WE STRESS TESTED AT A 6% ANNUAL RETURN LEVEL, WHICH IS 1% BELOW TARGETED WEIGHT, JUST TO SEE THE IMPACT ON THAT.
AND IT DID REDUCE OUR SAVINGS AS YOU WOULD EXPECT TO APPROXIMATELY
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$35.5 MILLION NET PRESENT VALUE.AND THEN AGAIN, WE RAMP THAT DOWN BY ANOTHER PERCENTAGE TO A 5% ANNUAL RETURN, WHICH STILL YIELDED SAVINGS OF APPROXIMATELY $20 MILLION OVER THE TERM OF THE BONDS.
SO I SHARE ALL THIS WITH YOU TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT SOME OF THE POTENTIAL DOWNSIDE IS WITH THIS DECISION TO GO ALONG WITH THE UPSIDE.
UM, AND ALSO TO REASSURE YOU THAT THIS ISN'T A SHOOTING FROM THE HIP SCENARIO.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO SPECIALIZE IN THIS WORK, ANALYZING THESE DECISIONS AND HELPING US MAKE A GOOD DECISION.
SO FROM HERE WITH THE REMAINING A TO DO LIST, IF YOU ROLL PROCESS AND STRATEGY, UH, WE DO HAVE A JUDGMENT FILED, UH, FOR THE VALIDATION PROCESS.
THE APPEAL PERIOD SHOULD EXPIRE THIS WEEK.
TODAY WE ARE BEFORE YOU FOR DISCUSSION ON THE MATTER.
AND WE'RE THINKING THE APPROVAL, UH, OF ISSUING THE PENSION OBLIGATION BONDS.
WE HAVE A WAITING AGENCY PRESENTATION SCHEDULED FOR THIS THURSDAY WITH SMP.
UM, WE EXPECT THEM TO TAKE A COUPLE OF WEEKS TO TURN AROUND TO THEIR, UH, RATING.
WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT BEFORE THE END OF THE MONTH.
UM, PRETTY MUCH PICKING UP AS, AS QUICKLY AS NEXT WEEK, ASSUMING EVERYTHING GOES WELL.
UH, WE'RE GOING TO START DIGGING INTO, UH, THE MARKET INFORMATION AND TRY TO MAKE A DECISION ON, UH, THE BEST TIME TO ISSUE.
AND THEN FOLLOWING ALL THESE, UH, ITEMS WILL BE THE EVENTUAL PRICING AND CLOSING OF THE BONDS.
THE 40 TODAY, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DOCUMENTS IN ADDITION TO THE AGENDA REPORT.
THE FIRST OF WHICH IS THE RESOLUTION, UH, SEEKING THE APPROVAL OF, UH, ISSUING, UH, PENSION OBLIGATION BONDS ALSO, UH, REQUIRED IS THE CASHFLOW ANALYSIS, THE COST OF ISSUANCE AND THE PRELIMINARY OFFICIAL STATEMENT.
UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE OF THESE DOCUMENTS.
THE ONE THAT IS MOST IMPRESSIVE, I THINK IN TERMS OF ITS SIZE IS THE PRELIMINARY OFFICIAL STATEMENT.
THIS IS AN EXTRAORDINARILY DENSE DOCUMENT WITH A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE INFORMATION PRESENTED HERE IS NOT ORIGINAL IN THE SENSE THAT IT IS SOURCED FROM OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT ALREADY EXIST IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN, SPECIFICALLY OUR ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT IN CALPERS VALUATION.
PART OF THE STRATEGY IN THE, UH, APPROVAL THAT WE'RE SEEKING TODAY IS AN UNDERSTANDING ALSO THAT THE DECISION WE MAKE TODAY WE'RE GUARDING THE ULTIMATE SIZE AND TIMING OF THE BONDS MIGHT NOT BE THE MOST INFORMED DECISION.
UH, WE ARE IN A VERY DYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW, AND WE NEED TO WATCH THIS VERY, VERY CLOSELY.
SO, UM, WHAT WE ARE SUGGESTING IS THAT WE, UH, WE'RE ASKING FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE ISSUANCE OF THE FULL $200 MILLION BOND AMOUNT, AS WELL AS THE ABILITY TO, UH, DECIDE ON THE APPROPRIATE TIMING OF ISSUANCE.
AND THIS WILL BE COMMUNICATED WITH THE CITY, A CITY COUNCIL, UM, SPECIFICALLY THE ACTION.
THE WORDING OF THE RECOMMENDATION IS WE ASK AT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTS THE NEXT RESOLUTION IN ORDER TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY OFFICIAL STATEMENT PREPARED FOR THE ISSUANCE OF PENSION OBLIGATION.
BONDS APPROVE THE ISSUANCE OF PENSION OBLIGATION, BONDS AND APPROVE ASSOCIATED DOCUMENTS.
AND WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY PREPARED COMMENTS, AND WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION, THANKS FOR IT, MUCH CLAY, VERY COMPREHENSIVE REPORT CAST MEMBERS.
UH, HELLO, I THINK, UM, WITH THE, UH, ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT THE COVID VACCINE COMING UP, I THINK THAT'S GOING, GONNA HELP THE ECONOMY A LOT, AND IT SHOULD INCREASE THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT IN THE FIRST YEAR BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT, UM, THAT SHOULD, UM, MAKE PEOPLE MORE OPTIMISTIC AND, UH, AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IN LIFE AS FAR AS, UM, HELPING THE ECONOMY TO, UH, PROCEED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
ANYBODY ELSE WANNA MAKE COMMENT? UH, I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR CLAY.
UH, THE RISK SECTION OF THE STAFF REPORT SAYS
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MOST SIGNIFICANT IS THE RISK THAT SIGNIFICANT INVESTMENT LOSSES OCCUR AFTER DEPOSITING BOND PROCEEDS WITH CALPERS.CAN YOU TALK MORE ABOUT THAT? THAT REALLY IS, IS THE BIG, THE BIG ISSUE, ISN'T IT? UM, WE ARE EFFECTIVELY, I MEAN, THIS TRANSACTION AT ITS MOST BASIC LEVEL IS WE'RE BORROWING MONEY AT A LOW INTEREST RATE TO GIVE, TO CALPERS, TO PLUG THE FUNDING HOLE IN OUR PENSION PLANS, UM, THAT HOPEFULLY THEY DON'T TURN AROUND AND LOSE THAT SADLY.
UH, WE DO NOT HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, AFFECT THE INVESTMENT DECISIONS MADE BY CALPERS AND EVEN THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO AFFECT THE IMPACT OF THE MARKETS.
SO IS THE RISK THAT WE, FOR INSTANCE, BORROW AT 3% AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT MONEY STARTS EARNING LESS THAN 3%.
I WOULD SAY THAT IS THE WORST OF THE POSSIBLE SCENARIOS.
UM, REALISTICALLY, ANYTIME THE PLAN EARNS LESS THAN 7%, WE POTENTIALLY NEED TO, UH, PAY MORE MONEY, UH, ISSUING PRBS HELPS OUR SITUATION AS LONG AS, UM, CALPERS EARNS MORE THAN THE BOND ISSUANCE RATE OF WHAT WERE ESTIMATED TO BE 3.19.
UH, BUT IF THEY WERE TURNED LESS THAN 3.19 OVER A PROLONGED PERIOD OF TIME, UH, THAT IS EFFECTIVELY BORROWING MONEY AT A HIGHER RATE TO INVEST IT AT A LOW RATE.
AND, BUT WE'RE GOING TO, IF CALPERS, IF CALPERS DELIVERS A LOWER RATE, THAT'S KIND OF GOING TO HAPPEN, WHETHER WE USE POV'S OR NOT, IT'S JUST, UH, THE AMOUNTS THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE, THAT'S ONE OF THOSE POINTS THAT I QUESTIONED MYSELF, WHETHER THAT'S SOUND LOGIC OR NOT, BUT THE WAY I THINK ABOUT IT AND THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT THAT IS CALPERS PERFORMING THE LOWER, THEIR TARGET AMOUNT IS BAD FOR US, WHETHER IT'S THEM LOSING CASH FROM OUR GENERAL FUND CASH FROM HER PENSION OBLIGATION BONDS, OR, UH, ON OUR IOU, BECAUSE WE ARE, MUST DO IT IN ANY, IN ANY CASE WE'RE GOING TO OWE IT.
BUT THE PLDS WE COULD SAY MIGHT REDUCE THE PRESSURE OF THE OVERALL FUND TO DELIVER AT THE HIGHER LEVEL.
AND MAYBE MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT CREATES THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE CASHFLOW SAVINGS THAT PARTICULARLY IN THE FIRST FEW YEARS, WHERE WERE MOST AT RISK, UH, IT GIVES US THE ABILITY TO KIND OF DOUBLE DOWN ON THIS AND WE INVEST SOME OF THE SAVINGS, UH, BACK INTO THE PLAN TO EVEN GET FURTHER AHEAD BECAUSE IT, WE IS THE FIRST FEW YEARS THAT THAT ARE THE MOST DANGEROUS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH, OKAY.
UM, ANGELA, DID YOU RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM? I MEAN RECEIVED NO COMMENTS, SIR.
UM, AND IF THERE'S, THIS IS CHANCE TO DISCUSS THIS SOME MORE, IF NOT, I'M PREPARED, THINK EMOTION.
WELL, I'VE GOT ONE MORE COMMENT.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE MARKET RISK, UH, THERE'S ONE, ODDLY ENOUGH, WHAT WE'RE FACING IS KIND OF A GOOD SITUATION.
UM, TODAY, UH, IN THE NORTH CAROLINA SENATE RACE, UM, A DEMOCRAT CONCEDED AS RACE TO REPUBLICAN.
IF THE SENATE DOES WITH TWO MORE, UH, YET TO GO IN GEORGIA ON A RUNOFF, IF THE SENATE, FOR INSTANCE, STAYS IN REPUBLICAN HANDS, THEN ESSENTIALLY YOU HAVE A MIXED LEGISLATURE, OR YOU HAVE A, THE DEMOCRATIC HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
YOU HAVE A SENATE THAT'S REPUBLICAN, AND THEN THE WHITE HOUSE HAS DEMOCRAT FOR MARKETS.
UH, TO MY UNDERSTANDING ACTUALLY LIKE THAT, BECAUSE IT DOES GIVE A DEGREE OF CERTAINTY.
THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY RADICAL, UH, TAX LAW CHANGE, UH, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS, AT LEAST UNTIL THERE'S A POTENTIAL CHANGE IN THE MIX OF WHO CONTROLS THE LEGISLATION.
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UH, KIND OF, UH, THE MARKET'S GOING TO RESPOND POSITIVELY TO THE NEXT PARTY RULE IN THIS COUNTRY FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.AND THAT'S GOOD FOR, FOR US, IT'S IT LOWERS THE RISK OF SOMETHING RADICAL HAPPENING.
I AGREE WITH YOU, STEVE THAT'S, UM, THAT'S ASSUMING THAT THAT ALL HAPPENS, BUT THAT THAT'S, I AGREE WITH YOU CLAY, JUST TO CRUSH THEM.
I THINK, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LOSS, YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT LOSING THE PRINCIPAL.
YOU ARE, YOU, ARE YOU, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LOSING JUST THE POTENTIAL TO MAKE MORE, UM, ONCE WE DEPOSIT MONEY WITH CALPERS, UM, IT IS BASICALLY JUST ASSETS SET ASIDE TO PAY LIABILITIES.
SO THERE'S NO DISTINCTION THERE BETWEEN WHAT A BET IS BACKED BY A BOND PRINCIPLE OR BOND INTEREST OR EARNINGS OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT.
IT'S JUST MONEY ON DEPOSIT WITH CALPERS AND IT, ANY LOSS WOULD REPRESENT A REDUCTION IN THOSE ASSETS.
I MEAN, YES, IT WOULD REPRESENT A LOSS OF PRINCIPLE AS WELL AS ANYTHING ELSE, POTENTIALLY ME AS THE CASE FOR THAT WOULD BE IF WE WENT NEGATIVE.
IF, IF, IF THE INVESTMENTS WERE SO POOR THAT WE ACTUALLY LOST MONEY ON THE INVESTMENTS.
UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THE DOING NOTHING STRATEGY POSES, THE MOST RISK AND WHILE THERE'S RISK WITH EVERYTHING, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE REDUCING RISK BY MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS.
UM, MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION WE'RE GOING TO AUTHORIZE THE ISSUANCE OF $200 MILLION MAXIMUM IN BONDS.
AND THEN ONCE WHO'S GOING TO BE THE PRINCIPAL, UH, PERSON THAT DECIDES IF WE ISSUE ALL OF THAT AT ONCE.
AND WHAT DOES THAT STRATEGY LOOK LIKE? UM, IS IT GOING TO BE PROGRESSIVE YEAR? OKAY.
WE DO 50 MILLION THIS YEAR AND THEN ANOTHER 15 MILLION NEXT YEAR, OR WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? IT, MY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE PROCESS CORRECTLY.
WELL, I THINK A LOT OF THAT DEPENDS ON HOW THE CITY COUNCIL OR TROOP, UH, CHOOSES TO APPROVE THE TRANSACTION.
UH, WE ARE SEEKING THE AUTHORITY TO ISSUE UP TO THE FULL AMOUNT, UM, BASED ON MARKET CONDITIONS.
HOWEVER, IF MARKET CONDITIONS APPEAR TO BE UNSTABLE AND IT SEEMS LIKE GOING ALL IN WITH THE FULL AMOUNTS OF BAD DECISION, THEN WE WOULD DISCUSS IT AND PROBABLY ISSUE AT A LOWER, MORE APPROPRIATE DOLLAR AMOUNT.
UM, ULTIMATELY IF THAT AUTHORITY IS GRANTED, IT WOULD BE UNDER THE GUIDANCE OF THE CITY MANAGER.
HOWEVER, UH, WATCHING, UH, MR. MITCHELL PERFORMED THROUGH THESE DISCUSSIONS IS HE'S SEEKING COUNSEL THROUGH PROFESSIONALS AND PEOPLE THAT DO THIS EVERY DAY.
UM, SO I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T THINK IT'S A SINGLE INDIVIDUAL, BUT REALISTICALLY IT COMES BACK TO WHAT DOES THE CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZE COUNCIL MEMBER.
REMEMBER? WE, WE, UH, ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH BANK OF AMERICA.
SO WE'RE RELYING ON THEIR INVESTMENT EXPERTISE TO KNOW WHEN, WHEN IS THE RIGHT TIME TO PULL THE TRIGGER.
AND, AND AS WE'VE SORT OF TALKED ABOUT STRATEGIES, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PROS AND CONS OF WHEN TO GO AND HOW MUCH YOU GO AND WHETHER TO DO ONE, ONE FULL BOND ISSUANCE OR SEVERAL TRENCHES OVER PERIODS OF TIME.
AND SO WE ARE, I THINK WE'RE ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS OF THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
UM, AND SO WE'LL, WE'LL CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION, BUT THIS, THIS ACTION BY THE COUNCIL WOULD GIVE STAFF THE AUTHORIZATION TO ISSUE THE BONDS AT THAT MAXIMUM AMOUNT.
UM, AND THEN WE WOULD KEEP THE COUNCIL INFORMED OF, OF THOSE DECISIONS.
THIS IS A QUESTION FOR EITHER GRAHAM OR CLAY.
UM, I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY NOT AT ALL POSSIBLE, BUT WAS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY OF MITIGATING OUR RISK BY NOT GIVING THE MONEY TO CALPERS? THAT'S THE ONLY PART OF THIS THAT REALLY SCARES ME IS CALPERS MAKES DECISIONS THAT ARE, ARE NOT ALWAYS BASED UPON SOUND ECONOMIC LOGIC.
THEY MAKE DECISIONS BASED UPON, UH, THE POLITICAL WINDS SOMETIMES THEY'LL, THEY WON'T INVEST IN, IN COMPANIES THAT THEY, THEY DON'T LIKE POLITICALLY, AND THEY WILL INVEST IN, IN COMPANIES.
THEY DO LIKE POLITICALLY, BUT MAYBE IT'S NOT THE BEST INVESTMENT.
SO IS THERE ANY WAY WE COULD TAKE THIS BOND, KEEP THE MONEY OURSELVES AND DOLE IT OUT TO CALPERS AS, AS WE NEED TO.
THAT WAS A QUESTION I SPECIFICALLY ASKED OF OUR BOND COUNSEL AND THEY FELT THAT NO
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IS THE ANSWER TO THAT, THAT ANY AMOUNT OF BOND PROCEEDS GENERATED THROUGH THE STRENGTHS ACTION HAVE TO BE DEPOSITED WITH CALPERS.UH, ONE OF THE STRATEGIES, UH, WE FELT VERY STRONGLY ABOUT THAT WE WANTED TO PURSUE WAS HEDGING OUR BETS BY PUTTING SOME OF THE BOND PROCEEDS IN THE SECTION ONE 15 TRUST.
SO WE WERE DIVESTING A LITTLE BIT FROM CALPERS, BUT STILL HAVING THEIR MONEY AVAILABLE FOR THAT PURPOSE.
AND WE WERE ADVISED THAT WE COULD NOT DO THAT.
WE IN FACT, HAD TO GIVE IT TO CALPERS.
HOWEVER, UH, WHAT WOULD HELP MITIGATE THAT WOULD BE TAKING SOME OF THE POTENTIAL SAVINGS, UH, AND PUTTING IT INTO THE ONE 15.
SO WE DO HAVE THAT AS A SAFETY NET FOR THE POTENTIAL OF CALPERS LOSSES.
ARE YOU CONSIDERING DOING THAT? UM, SO AS MR. SHADES, AND WE CANNOT USE ANY OF THE BOND PROCEEDS EXCEPT FOR GIVING THEM THE PURSE, BUT WE DO THINK AS PART OF THE, UM, BOND OR THE PENSION POLICY THAT YOU GUYS ADOPTED LAST WEEK, THAT THE SAVINGS SHOULD GO INTO THAT ONE 15 TRUST ACCOUNT, THEN IT'S PROTECTED AND IT CAN BE USED FOR REALLY ONE THING.
AND ONE THING ONLY, AND THAT'S CONTINUING TO REDUCE OUR LIABILITY.
THAT WOULD MAKE ME FEEL BETTER.
I THINK I'VE GOT MY QUESTIONS ANSWERED, GARY, YOU HAVE ANYTHING? YES.
UH, I THINK THAT THESE ARE HISTORIC LOW INTEREST RATES AND THAT HAPPENS, UH, NOT TOO OFTEN.
SO I THINK THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO ESSENTIALLY REFINANCE OUR MORTGAGE AND, UH, WITH THESE LOW RATES, I, I, I, I THINK THAT TAKES AWAY A LOT OF THE RISK.
I THINK IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT TO GET RETURNS HIGHER THAN THAT.
SO I THINK THIS IS A, A PRUDENT DECISION.
OF COURSE, EVERY DECISION HAS SOME RISKS, BUT I THINK IT'S A CALCULATED RISK AND IT CAN, I THINK IT WILL PROBABLY SAVE, UH, THE TAXPAYERS A LOT OF MONEY.
SO ON THE ANALYSIS OF PROJECTED SAVINGS SCHEDULE, YOU SHOWED DEBT SERVICE FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS AT ROUGHLY 13.7 MILLION PER YEAR.
UH, THE MIDDLE COLUMN THAT SERVICE 13.7 AND THE UAL PAYMENTS AS WELL.
THIS WAS WHAT WE WOULD PAY IF WE WERE TO DO NOTHING TODAY, OR JUST CONTINUE TO MAKE PAYMENTS TO PROS FOR OUR UAL PAYMENT.
ALTHOUGH IT DOES NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE POTENTIAL FOR NEWTON.
SO YEAH, THE 17.2, THREE 6 MILLION IS, UH, IF WE DON'T EVEN DO POV'S AT ALL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE 17 MILLION OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND AND PAY DOWN OUR PER HIS PAYMENT.
SO, BUT IF WE REFUND YOU, THAT'S W NOW WE'RE ONLY GOING TO PAY, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO PAY 13 MILLION FOR THE DEBT INSTEAD OF 17 MILLION OCCURS.
SO OUR SAVINGS IN THAT FIRST YEAR WAS 3.5 MILLION.
I THINK WHAT BILL IS SAYING, OR WHAT I AGREE WITH IS MAN, LET'S, ANYTIME YOU REFINANCE A MORTGAGE AND YOU SAVE MONEY BECAUSE YOU REFINANCE A MORTGAGE, WHY NOT PUT THAT SAVINGS INTO CONTINUING TO LOWER YOUR PRINCIPAL ON THAT MORTGAGE INSTEAD OF GOING OUT AND BUYING THE CAR? YEAH, THAT'S IT, THAT IS A FANTASTIC POINT.
UM, THERE ABSOLUTELY IS A PRUDENT THING TO DO, UM, WHETHER IT BE, UH, DIRECTLY PAYING DOWN THE MORTGAGE BY PUTTING IT BACK IN AND PAYING DOWN PRINCIPAL, OR EVEN SETTING IT ASIDE IN ANOTHER SAVINGS ACCOUNT, UM, THAT CERTAINLY WOULD BE A PRUDENT THING TO DO AS OPPOSED TO GOING OUT AND BUYING A BOAT.
AND IN OUR CASE, INSTEAD OF USING THE MONEY IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR OTHER PURPOSES IN THE CITY, UH, AS GRAHAM SAID, WE WOULD SET THIS ASIDE ON THE SECTION ONE 15 TRUST, AND THAT KIND OF OBLIGATES IT TO THAT, THAT, UH, TENSION OF OBLIGATION ONLY, CORRECT.
HOWEVER, IT ALSO GIVES US A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT FLEXIBILITY ON WHEN WE USE THAT MONEY FOR THAT PURPOSE.
SO SHRIMP, FOR SOME REASON, CALPERS PAYMENTS CLIMB IMMEDIATELY AFTER WE CONDUCT THIS TRANSACTION, WE WOULD THEORETICALLY BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT MONEY TO HELP PAY THE BILL.
I THINK WE'VE, UH, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU.
I, I FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE HAVING HAD THAT DISCUSSION.
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I KNOW THAT GRAHAM IS, UM, CONTACTING AND WORKING WITH THE BEST CONSULTANTS THAT MONICA BY, AND IT SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE THING TO DO, ESPECIALLY THE WAY WE'RE APPROPRIATE.I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTS THE NEXT RESOLUTION IN ORDER TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY OFFICIAL STATEMENT, PREPARE FOR THE ISSUANCE OF PRBS AND APPROVE THE ISSUANCE OF THE POV, THE BONDS AND APPROVED ASSOCIATED DOCUMENTS.
ALL RIGHT, WHO CAN SECOND IT, WE WERE ASKED IF THERE WERE, UM, UH, YOU TOLD ME THERE WERE NO COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM RIGHT HERE.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
I, I KNOW YOU PUT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT TO THIS.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING IT SO UNDERSTANDABLE.
[12. Main Street Green Street – Project Update RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council receives the Main Street Green Street Project update and provides feedback on the proposed project.]
REPORT ITEM 12 IS A PROJECT UPDATE ON THE MAIN STREET GREEN STREET PROJECT STAFF.CERTAINLY MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I'M GOING TO, WE HAVE, WE HAVE ACTUALLY KIND OF TWO AGENDA ITEMS BACK TO BACK, AND WE SPLIT THESE UP BECAUSE THEY ARE TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS, BUT THEY THEY'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THE SAME THING.
GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL ON WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THESE PROJECTS.
UM, I'LL JUST INTRODUCE THE TWO PRESENTERS AND THE ORDER THAT YOU'LL BE HEARING FROM THEM AND GIVE A LITTLE CONTEXT.
SO I'LL TALK ABOUT THE CONTEXT FIRST.
UH, BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS ARE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE, UM, BEING PROPOSED TO OCCUR IN THE DOWNTOWN OR THE TRANSIT DISTRICT, UM, SPECIFIC PLAN AREA.
AND FRANKLY, IT'S AN AREA THAT HASN'T SEEN A LOT OF INVESTMENT, BOTH, UM, PUBLIC INVESTMENT OR PRIVATE INVESTMENT IN MANY YEARS.
AND SO THIS IS SEEN BY STAFF AS A CATALYST PROJECT WITH THE AIM OF INFUSING SOME, SOME PUBLIC CAPITAL INTO IT, WITH THE GOAL OF ATTRACTING SOME PRIVATE CAPITAL FOR SOME REINVESTMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT IN THE AREA.
UM, AND YOU'LL HEAR WHERE THE FUNDING SOURCES COME FROM.
YOU'LL SEE THAT IN NONE OF IT'S COMING FROM GENERAL FUND.
UM, SO THE FIRST PRESENTATION YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR IS FROM TONY MENDOZA, HE'S AT ONE OF OUR ASSOCIATE ENGINEERS.
UM, JUST FOR CONTEXT, MR. MENDOZA WAS THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE MAGNOLIA REHABILITATION.
SO ALL THE GREAT WORK THAT'S HAPPENED AT THE MAGNOLIA WAS MR. MENDOZA'S WORK.
AND THEN AFTER MR. MENDOZA, AND, UM, YOU PROVIDE FEEDBACK, WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM
UH, MR. KACI IS AN ASSISTANT ENGINEER WITH THE CITY.
UM, AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, FOR CONTEXT, HE'S THE ENGINEER RUNNING THE PROJECTS THAT ARE OCCURRING, ALL THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT ARE OCCURRING AT WELLS PARK.
SO HE'S STAYING BUSY WITH THAT TOO.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY PLEASED WITH BOTH THESE INDIVIDUALS.
AND FROM THERE, I'M GOING TO TURN THE TIME OVER TO MR. MENDOZA.
SEE, I'LL GET MY SCREEN SET UP.
UM, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THAT.
HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.
I'M A PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF ALCOHOL, UH, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
SO WE HAVE A FEW SLIDES THAT, UH, WE'LL BE SHARING ON A PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THE MAIN STREET, GREEN STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.
AND, UH, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
THIS IS, UH, UH, UH, HEARTBROKEN, UH, PROJECT WHERE WE'VE BEEN WORKING REALLY HARD ON IT.
SO IT'S A LONG TIME COMING AND, UH, WE'RE, UH, WE'RE EAGER TO PRESENT THIS PROJECT UP.
SO KIND OF JUST WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF THE PROJECT BACKGROUND, A LITTLE BIT OF THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, AND THEN WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE FUNDING AND THE SCHEDULING, UM, IN THE BACKGROUND OF THIS SLIDE, WE HAVE, UH, THE PROJECT CORRIDOR, UM, WHICH IS ON MAIN STREET WEST MAIN STREET FROM MARSHALL TO JOHNSON AVENUE.
AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS, WE KIND OF SEE A LOT OF POTENTIAL THERE.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF HOW I SEE THIS.
AND SO A LOT OF, A LOT OF ROOM FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE WANTED, WE WANT TO DO, AND REALLY THE, THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WILL BE MOST NOTICEABLE AND MOST CHANGE WILL BE ALONG THIS CORRIDOR.
SO LET'S JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BACKGROUND.
UM, A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS OR THESE TWO PROJECTS, I'M SORRY, ARE COMING FROM THE TDSP THE TRANSIT DISTRICT SPECIFIC PLAN, WHICH WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL
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IN MAY, 2000, UH, 2018.AND SO WHAT SOME OF THE, UM, WHAT, WHAT THE TDSP WAS TARGETING TO DO WAS TO IMPROVE SOME, SOME OF THE, UH, ELEMENTS OF THE MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION FOR BICYCLISTS, PEDESTRIANS, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, AND VEHICLES AS WELL, BUT THEN ALSO REVITALIZE THE AREA WHICH LED TO, UH, THE REZONING OF SOME OF THIS AREA.
AND SO TO THE THINGS THAT, UH, UH, THAT, THAT WERE INCLUDED WITH THIS WAS RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SOME PROJECTS THAT LED TO THE TWO PROJECTS THAT WE'RE PRESENTING TODAY.
UM, AND SO ONE IS THE ALCOHOL BOULEVARD, STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, WHICH, WHICH, UH, MY COLLEAGUES, WHICH, UH, UH, HE'LL BE, HE'LL BE SPEAKING ON.
AND THEN, UH, THE MAIN STREET GREEN STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, WHICH IS THE PROJECT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, RIGHT NOW.
SO SOME OF THE ELEMENTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING WITH THIS PROJECT, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE PROPOSING A ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS, STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS, AND LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS, UH, FOR THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, WE HAVE A BOLD PROPOSAL, UH, UH, PROPOSING, UH, TO REDUCE, UH, AN EASTBOUND LANE.
AND SO WHAT, WHAT WE GET FROM THIS, UH, UM, UH, LANE REDUCTION IS, UH, IT'S, IT'S IT'S FUNCTIONS AS A TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURE, BUT THEN WE'RE ALSO INCREASING IN SAFETY.
UM, THE, THE ELIMINATION OF THE SPELLING IS SUPPORTED BY, BY THE TRAFFIC CAPACITY.
AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF SLIDES.
AND THEN ESSENTIALLY THE GOAL IS TO MAKE THE ROADWAY SAFER FOR ALL MODES OF TRANSPORTATION, PEDESTRIANS, VISA, UH, PEDESTRIANS, BICYCLISTS, AND VEHICLES, AND THEN WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'LL BE DOING WITH THAT IS NEW CONCRETE SURFACES.
UH, WE'LL BE IMPROVING CROSSWALKS AND INTERSECTIONS WITHIN THE PROJECT LIMITS, AND WE'RE MAKING THEM SAFER AND ADA ACCESSIBLE.
AND THEN FINALLY, WE'RE ALSO DOING SOME LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS.
WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO A GREEN THEME LANDSCAPING CONCEPT.
SO WE'LL SEE, UH, GREENER, UH, UM, PLANTINGS AND TREES, UH, THROUGHOUT THIS CORRIDOR AND WE'RE TARGETING 40 NEW STREET TREES.
AND SO THESE NEW STREET TREES WILL SERVE TO PROVIDE SHADE AND AESTHETIC APPEAL.
SO HERE'S A QUICK GLANCE AT OUR PROPOSED CROSS SECTION.
UM, I'LL JUST TOUCH ON THIS REAL QUICKLY AND COME BACK TO IT.
UH, WE'RE PROPOSING BIKE LANES IN EACH DIRECTION WE'RE PROPOSING TO MAINTAIN, UH, TWO WESTBOUND TRAVELINGS AND THE MIDDLE TERM, UH, IN THE MIDDLE TWO-WAY LEFT TURN LANE.
UM, AND THEN THE ONLY ONE PROPOSAL THAT WE'RE ONLY PROPOSING ONE EASTBOUND LANE.
SO WHAT ARE THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS? SO IF WE LOOK AT THE CURRENT, UH, CAPACITY AND THE LEVEL OF SERVICE, WHICH IS A GOOD WAY TO MEASURE, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TOP, THE TOP TABLE, THE TOP RIGHT TOP LEFT TABLE, UH, WHICH DIVINE'S, WHICH DEFINES THE LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR OUR ROAD CLASSIFICATION BASED ON THE, UH, AVERAGE DAILY TRAFFIC THAT THE VEHICLE COUNTS THAT WE HAVE A FOUR, A FOUR LANE SECTION, AND, UM, FOR REFERENCE A, B OR C IS, IS, IS A GOOD CATEGORY, D IS, MIGHT BE IN THE ACCEPTABLE CATEGORY AS WELL.
AND IT ALL GOES ALL THE WAY DOWN TO F SO F WOULD BE SOMETHING WE WANT TO TRY TO AVOID.
UM, SO THEN THE BOTTOM GRAPH, UH, ON GRAPHIC, UM, INCLUDES, UH, HAS THE, THE, UH, UH, NUMBERS OF THE AVERAGE DAILY VEHICLE COUNTS FROM 2019 FOR THIS SECTION.
SO WE HAVE A TOTAL, UH, ADT, A 14,380 VEHICLE AVERAGE VEHICLE COUNTS FOR, UH, GOING THROUGH THIS SECTION.
AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT WHERE THAT FITS FOR OUR ROAD CLASSIFICATION, IT'S LESS THAN 22,800, BUT MORE THAN 13,700.
SO THAT'LL GIVE US A LEVEL OF SERVICE, APPARENTLY A LEVEL OF SERVICE, A B, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO LOOK AT THE PROPOSED CONDITION.
SO FOR THE PROPOSED CONDITION OF, UH, TWO, UH, LANES IN THE WESTBOUND DIRECTION, IN THE ONE LANE IN THE EASTBOUND DIRECTION LIKE WE'RE PROPOSING, UM, WE HAVE, UH, WE STILL HAVE THE SAME CAPACITY OF THE 14,380, UH, ADTS, BUT FOR THE ROAD CLASSIFICATION FOR NEW ROAD CLASSIFICATION OF THREE LANES, THREE DRIVABLE LANES, UM, THAT'S LESS THAN THE 17,104 A B, AND MORE THAN 10,275 VEHICLES.
SO WE STILL HAVE, ARE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE B, UM, BASED ON THE COUNTS AND THE ROAD CLASSIFICATIONS.
UM, AND SO REDUCING THE LANE WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE.
UM, I WOULD ALSO, UH, WANT TO POINT OUT ON THE GRAPHIC, UH, WITH OUR, UH, ADTS THAT WE HAVEN'T BROKEN DOWN BY DIRECTION AS WELL.
SO FROM OUR DAILY COUNTS, WE SEE THAT THERE'S
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AN AVERAGE, UH, VEHICLE COUNT OF ABOUT 8,164 FOR THE WESTBOUND DIRECTION AND A LITTLE BIT OVER 6,000, 200 FOR THE EASTBOUND DIRECTION.SO IT'S UNBALANCED AND WE HAVE, SO WE HAVE BASICALLY, IT'S SHOWING THAT WE HAVE MORE VEHICLES, THE WESTBOUND DIRECTION.
AND, UM, AND SO IF WE WERE, IF WE WERE LOOKING AT REDUCING THE LANE, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO DO THAT IN THE EASTBOUND DIRECTION.
AND THEN WE ALSO IN THE SAME, FROM THE SAME DATA, THAT'S BROKEN DOWN ON AN HOURLY BASIS.
SO FROM THE SIM DATA, WE'RE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE PEAK EYEWEAR FOR THE WESTBOUND DIRECTION, WHICH HAPPENS IN THE MORNING.
AND SO IT KIND OF SHOWS THAT IT'S A PATTERN MORE FOR A COMMUTER TRAFFIC PATTERN.
AND SO, UM, AND SO, UM, WITH, WITH THAT HAPPENING, YOU, YOU HAVE VEHICLES IT'S SIMILAR TO VEHICLES TRAVELING TO WORK WITH THE SCHOOL, AND THEN COMING BACK IN A DIFFERENT, UM, UH, TAKING A DIFFERENT PATH, UH, ON THE WAY ON THE RETURN TRIP, BECAUSE THE, THE PEAK HOURS FOR THE, UH, FOR THE EASTBOUND DIRECTION ARE MORE SPREAD OUT AND MORE DISPERSED.
SO AGAIN, THAT WOULD SUPPORT THAT IF WE WERE TO PROPOSE TO DROP A LANE, THE EASTBOUND DIRECTION, UM, IS, IS, IS A SITE THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.
SO GOING BACK TO OUR PROPOSED SECTION OF A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO DETAIL OF SORT OF THE ZONES THAT WE HAVE, UH, PROPOSED, UM, STARTING FROM THE LEFT SIDE, THE NORTH SIDE, WHICH WOULD BE, UM, YEAH, THE NORTH SIDE.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO KEEP TO MAINTAIN THE, THE EXISTING SIDEWALK AND CURB LANE, UH, LINED, UH, WHERE THEY'RE CURRENTLY AT, BUT THEN WE'RE PROPOSING A NEW, UH, A NEW, UH, BIKE LANE, A CLASS FOUR BIKE LANE WITH THE ADDED BUFFER SPACE OF ABOUT FOUR FEET WITH, UM, CANDLESTICKS WITH FLEXIBLE POSTS.
AND THEN WE'RE STILL PROPOSING TWO WESTBOUND TRAVEL LANES AND, UH, MIDDLE TURN LANE JUST SHIFTED MORE INWARD.
AND THEN WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING, UH, THEY WE'RE REDUCING, UH, UH, IN THE EASTBOUND DIRECTION, TWO LANES TO ONE LANE.
UM, AND SO BY DOING THAT, WE'RE ABLE TO WIDEN OUR SIDEWALK ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WE'RE ABLE TO ADD ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPED AREAS, UH, RAISED BIKE PATH AND CONCRETE, UM, UH, SIDEWALKS, UH, TO, TO, TO MAKE ROOM FOR ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE WANT TO DO, UH, THAT, THAT WE NEED TO DO FOR THIS AREA.
SO I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT FUNDING ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
UH, WE KIND OF JUST HAVE A GENERAL CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATE, UM, WHICH WE'RE, WE'RE ESTIMATING CURRENTLY TO BE IN THE $2.8 MILLION RANGE.
AND SO WHERE THAT FUNDING IS COMING FROM IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S KUDOS TO THE, TO THE, TO THE CITY STAFF AND THE PROJECT TEAM FOR BEING AGGRESSIVE TO REACH OUT AND, AND APPLY AND RECEIVE SOME GRANTS.
UH, FOR THIS PROJECT, WE WERE AWARDED A 2.5 MILLION FROM SANDAG FOR THE SMART GROWTH INCENTIVE PROGRAM.
AND THEN WE WERE AWARDED 250,000 FOR THE PROP 68 GRAND FROM THE SAN DIEGO REGIONAL CONSERVANCY.
SO THIS IS $2.75 MILLION THAT, UH, WE ARE GETTING FOR THIS.
AND THE SANDAG GRANT REALLY GOES TO FUND FEATURES LIKE, UM, BIKE LANES, UH, SAFETY, UM, SAFETY MEASURES AND, UM, AND, AND BALL BOUTS AND, AND DIFFERENT DIFFERENT FEATURES, UH, THAT THAT HELP PROMOTE SAFER ENVIRONMENTS.
AND THEN THE PROP 68 GRANT GOES TO HELPING, UH, TO IMPROVE STORMWATER, IMPROVE, TO MAKE STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS AND, AND STREET TREES.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO, UH, SOME NATIVE DROUGHT TOLERANT TREES.
AND THEN WE'RE COMPLIMENTING THE REMAINING AMOUNT OF WHAT THE PROJECT ESTIMATE WILL BE, UH, WITH TRANSMIT FUNDS.
SO THE PIE CHART KIND OF BREAKS DOWN THE, THE BREAKDOWN OF THESE FUNDING SOURCES.
AND SO WE'RE REALLY, UH, LIKE I SAID, KUDOS TO THE, TO THE PROJECT TEAM TO BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE OUR FUNDS, TO BE ABLE TO, UH, UM, GET THESE GRANTS, UH, NEXT I'LL JUST TALK ABOUT THE, UH, PROJECT SCHEDULE.
UM, WE STARTED THE DESIGN PROCESS EARLIER THIS YEAR AROUND FEBRUARY, AND, UH, WE'RE CURRENTLY AROUND THE 50% DESIGN PHASE.
UM, AND SO OUR PLAN IS TO GET, UH, THE PLANTS, UH, FINALIZED AND A HUNDRED PERCENT BY EARLY NEXT YEAR, UH, HOPEFULLY NO LATER THAN MARCH AND THEN TO PIVOT, TURN AROUND AND GET INTO CONSTRUCTION AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN AFTER WE ADVERTISE AN AWARD TO, AND PUBLICLY PUT THE PROJECT OUT TO A BIT.
UM, AND SO WE'RE, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT A CONSTRUCTION TIMEFRAME OF SUMMERTIME, AND THEN WE HAVE A GRANT COMPLETION, UH, DEADLINE OF DECEMBER 22, BUT REALLY THE GOAL IS TO, UH, FINALIZE DESIGN AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN GET INTO CONSTRUCTION AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN, SO WE CAN GET THE WORK COMPLETED AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN.
AND SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL
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OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS, UM, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE, UH, SOMETHING INTERESTING TO KIND OF SHOW, UH, THIS IS, UH, ALONG THE PROJECT CORRIDOR ON EAST MAIN AND, UH, JOHNSON, RIGHT.WITH THE STG AND THE BUILDING IS.
AND SO WHEN WE, WHEN WE THINK ABOUT THE IMPROVEMENTS AND WHAT WOULD, WHAT WE COULD POSSIBLY LOOK LIKE, UM, WE KIND OF DID A LITTLE BIT OF A NORM, MR. MAN, MR. MENDOZA FROM WE'LL GET HIM ON BROS, THEN WE'LL, WE'LL FINISH UP THE PRESENTATION HE WAS DOING SO WELL, TOO, AND THEN JUST FROZE ISN'T IT.
AND THAT'S THE PART I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO MOST, HE MUST'VE BEEN OVERWHELMED WITH EMOTION, SO NOT, I KNOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE ON THE SAME FLOOR AS, ARE WE WORKING THIS OUT RIGHT NOW? YEAH.
HE'S MAKING HIS WAY OVER TO A DIFFERENT WORKSTATION JUST TO CONTINUE THAT.
SO COUNSEL, IF YOU CAN BE PATIENT, WE'LL TAKE A BRIEF, WE WON'T SAY A RECESS, BUT IF WE CAN JUST HANG OUT FOR A SECOND GRAHAM, I THINK IT'S YOUR OBLIGATION TO TELL A FUNNY STORY OR A JOKE OR SOMETHING, IS THAT RIGHT? THIS NEVER HAPPENED DURING LIVE COUNCIL MEETINGS.
I SHOULD KEEP THE LIVE NATION GUITAR IN THE OFFICE.
AND THEN BILL, YOU COULD COME OVER AND JUST PLAY US A SONG.
I'LL TEACH YOU TO PLAY SOMETHING.
I THINK GRAHAM SHOULD LEARN HOW TO JUGGLE OR CAP DANCE.
SHOULD WE, UH, IS THAT A MOTION AGENDA? I'M JUST GOING TO HAVE HIM JUMP ONTO MY COMPUTER REAL QUICK TO FINISH UP EVERYBODY GOING TO SAVE YOUR GRANDMA THERE.
UM, I, I'M NOT SURE WHERE WE LEFT OFF.
I THINK IT WAS, UH, THE, UM, THE STG AND E BUILDING AND YOU WERE GOING TO START THE OVERLAYS.
AND, AND, AND THAT WAS BASICALLY THE LAST SLIDE.
SO MY, UH, THAT WAS KIND OF JUST INCENTIVIZE THE, THE IMAGINATION OF WHAT THESE, UM, IMPROVEMENTS WOULD LOOK LIKE.
UM, IF WE WERE TO, IF WE WERE TO, UM, UM, TO SORT OF SHOW WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT THEY WOULD LOOK LIKE.
SO, UM, MY, I JUST KIND OF HAVE A CLOSING REMARK, UH, ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THESE PROJECTS.
UM, SO I JUST, I JUST FELT THAT THE START-UP THAT THE, THESE ARE THE PRINTS OF THESE PROJECTS WAS THAT THEY'RE THE START OF SOME OF THE NOTICEABLE CHANGES TO THE TDSP AREA THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
AND SO IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL, WE HOPE THERE'LL BE MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE THE AREA SO LONG AS FUNDING IS AVAILABLE.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR MY SLIDES.
UH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO SIGN-ON AND THEN I THINK WE'LL TAKE QUESTIONS AND FEEDBACK, UH, AT THE END.
UNLESS COUNCIL WANTS TO WEIGH IN ANY ISSUES RELATED TO THIS PROJECT SPECIFIC, BECAUSE THESE ARE TWO SEPARATE AGENDA ITEMS, BUT IT'S, COUNCIL'S, UH, UH, PROGRESS.
WELL, WHY DON'T, WHY DON'T WE RATHER THAN GET LOST IN THE WEEDS HERE, LET'S DEAL WITH THIS ONE AND THEN GO ON TO THE NEXT, OKAY.
I HAVE A, I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
UM, SO IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF THIS IS FUNDED BY SANDAG FUNDING WITH REGARD TO THE BIKE LANES, ARE, IS THEIR REQUIREMENTS TIED TO THE FUNDING THAT WE EXHIBIT SOME KIND OF SPECIFICATION WITH IT, FOR THIS PROJECT IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR THE FUNDING.
SO IT SANDECK SAYING IN ORDER TO UTILIZE THIS FUNDING FOR IMPROVEMENTS, YOU MUST HAVE A CLASS FOUR BIKE BIKE LANE.
UM, TH THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR A CERTAIN TYPE OF BIKE LANE.
UM, THEY CERTAINLY WANT THE PROJECT TO ENHANCE THE MULTI-MODAL, UH, UH, IDEAS.
SO BIKE LANES IS ONE OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE OF THAT, BUT THERE'S FLEXIBILITY ON THE, ON THE SPACING AND THE TYPE, BUT, BUT YEAH, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY SOMETHING THAT IS TIED IN SOME FORM.
UH, THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY ON THAT, BUT IT IS TIED TO THE GROUND FUNDING.
I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW IF WE, IF THERE'S A HUGE NEED, UM, IN THAT CORRIDOR FOR BIKES.
I, I DON'T, I KNOW IT GOES SOMEWHERE NEAR MY DISTRICT AND I TRAVELED TO DROP MY SON OFF TO SCHOOL IN THAT AREA, BUT I HAVEN'T SET UP A CAMERA TO DETERMINE HOW MANY BIKES ACTUALLY TRAVEL THERE.
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A, A NEED OR MAYBE YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.UM, I THINK, UH, THERE'S THIS IDEA TOO, THAT, UM, MAYBE ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, UH, WE, SO, SO I THINK CURRENTLY WE PROBABLY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF USAGE, BUT THERE'S THIS IDEA THAT MAYBE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF USAGE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT THERE AS WELL.
UM, I, I FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT WHEN WE ARE MORE PROACTIVE AND WE DO HAVE THESE SAFETY FEATURES, THEY SORT OF BRING THE BICYCLIST COMMUNITY A LITTLE BIT OUT AND YOU'LL SEE MORE USAGE, BUT, UM, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THOUGH.
SO IT'S, UH, IF THEY BUILD IT, THEY WILL COME.
AND, UH, I, I HAVE A QUESTION, UH, YEAH, PUTTING BIKE LANES RIGHT AFTER A FREEWAY ON-RAMP AND OFF-RAMP, AND YOU'RE SQUEEZING THE TRAFFIC DOWN.
AND, UH, WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF PIPE, UH, WRITERS TO THE PERCENTAGE OF, UH, PEOPLE DRIVING THEIR CARS.
AND I THINK WE'RE MAKING A BIG MISTAKE BY SQUEEZING THAT DOWN IN THAT AREA RIGHT OFF OF THE OFF RAMP OR ON RAMP OF THE FREEWAY.
AND I THINK THAT'S A MAJOR PROBLEM AND, UM, TRYING TO SQUEEZE THE SPACE FOR THE TRAFFIC.
UM, YOU LEAVE THE FOUR LANES IN THERE, LIKE THEY ARE NOW AND AT ONE BIKE LANE THAT COULD BE USED NEITHER DIRECTION.
IT JUST GIVE YOU ENOUGH SPACE FOR THAT.
SO, SO A COUPLE OF THINGS THEN, UM, SO ON THE, THE USAGE, UH, THE BICYCLIST USAGE, UM, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO AS PART OF THIS GRANT IS WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO A BICYCLIST COUNT, UM, BECAUSE OF COVID THAT GOT DELAYED.
UH, SO THAT WAS DONE RECENTLY.
WE, THERE WAS A BICYCLIST COUNCIL SURVEY THAT WE DID RECENTLY, SO I DON'T HAVE THOSE NUMBERS, UH, FRESH OFF HAND, BUT WE'LL GET THOSE, UH, VERY SOON.
AND, UM, BUT, UH, FROM, FROM WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE NOTICING OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS IT'S A LANE REDUCTION AND IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A BOLD STRATEGY.
UM, BUT THE IDEA WOULD BE THAT THERE'S A SAFE BIKE, UH, PATH TO TRAVEL ALONG WEST MAIN.
AND THEN AS YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE TRAVELING IN THE WESTBOUND DIRECTION, THEN IT WOULD TURN DOWN TO, UM, TO MARSHALL AVENUE AND THERE WOULD BE, UH, UH, THERE WERE PROPOSING BIKE LANES ALONG MARSHALL AVENUE AS WELL TO CONNECT TO THE TRANSIT CENTER, OKLAHOMA TRANSIT CENTER.
WELL, YOU'RE SQUEEZING THE TRAFFIC OUT RIGHT OUT, UH, RIGHT OFF OF A FREEWAY.
OUR ON-RAMP AND OPERA HAPPENED.
I THINK THAT'S IT, OR DECISION, UH, EITHER ON SANDBAGS PART OR OUR PART, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING OUT OF THEIR CAR.
IT'S RIGHT NOW, THEY MAY, UH, IN 2050.
UH, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT, UM, YET I THINK, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE JUMPING AHEAD OF OURSELVES.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL THE BIKE LANES WORKED IN SAN DIEGO SQUEEZING IT DOWN, BUT, UH, UH, THERE'S A LOT MORE PEOPLE DOWN THERE AND HIGH RISE BUILDINGS THAT PROBABLY SOME ARE BACK WRITERS THERE THAN THERE ARE OUT IN ALCOHOL, OTHER THAN OUR HOMELESS PAP LEEWAY USES THE BIKES.
WELL, TONY, A QUESTION I HAVE FOR YOU IS HAVE YOU DONE A SPECIFIC STUDY ON WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IN THE TRAFFIC WILL BE GOING FROM FOUR LANES TO THREE? IT LOGICALLY IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD MAKE TRAFFIC WORSE, BUT I TALKED TO GRAHAM ABOUT THIS STUFF THIS MORNING AND HE INDICATED TO ME THAT THAT'S NOT THE CASE.
CAN, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? YEAH.
SO, UH, ON THE FIRST FEW SLIDES THAT I HAD, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE LEVEL OF SERVICE AND HOW, UH, WE'RE ESSENTIALLY TRYING TO MATCH THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE AND A COUPLE OF FEATURES THAT WE USE TO BACK THAT UP.
UM, WE ALSO DID A TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY AS PART OF THE TDSP, UH, CITY STAFF DID.
AND, UM, IN THAT, UH, AS PART OF THAT, WITH THE WORK THAT WAS DONE TO PUT THAT TOGETHER, THEY HAD PROPOSED PUTTING, UM, UM, UH, TO REDUCING IT TO ONE LANE IN EACH DIRECTION.
SO RATHER THAN JUST FOLLOW THAT BLINDLY, WE DID LOOK AT, UH, THE PARAMETERS FOR THIS PROJECT AND OUR PROPOSED CROSS SECTION.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE LANDING ON IS WE'RE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE WITH, BY REDUCING IT TO THREE LANES BECAUSE OF THE CAPACITY, BECAUSE OF THE VEHICLES THAT ARE OUR AVERAGE VEHICLES TRAVELING IN THE EASTBOUND DIRECTION, JUST TO REITERATE, IT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE YOU ANY LONGER TO GO DOWN THAT STREET AFTER THIS, AS IT TAKES TODAY.
AND SO THE LEVEL OF SERVICE BE IS, IS MORE OF A, UM,
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UH, SO, UH, A, A LEVEL OF SERVICE A WOULD BE FREE-FLOWING LEVELS.SO A LEVEL OF SERVICE B IS A LITTLE BIT MORE STEADY STATE, BUT YOU'RE TRAVELING, YOU'RE FREELY TRAVELING AT THE SPEED LIMIT.
YOU'RE NOT BREAKING, YOU'RE NOT CAUSING ANY BACKUPS AT THAT LEVEL.
THE OTHER QUESTION, I HAVE NO BACKUP WHEN YOU'RE SQUEEZING IT FOR FOUR TO THREE, AND, UH, YOU STILL HAVE THE SAME NUMBER OF CARS.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE STOPPING IT MORE, CAUSING MORE EMISSIONS BY THEM STOPPING, UH, AND LET THE TRAFFIC GO THROUGH.
AND THEY'RE NOT BEING ABLE TO USE THAT STREET AS MUCH.
MR. MCCLELLAN, I THINK WHAT THE STUDY SAYS IS THAT, AND THIS IS, WE FOUND THIS AND OTHER STREETS TOO, WHERE WE'VE, WHERE WE'VE DONE A STREET DIET, THAT A LOT OF THE STREETS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY ARE PROBABLY OVER TO OVER OVERBUILT.
THEY, UH, ARE BUILT FOR MORE CAPACITY THAN IS CURRENTLY ON THEM OR, OR WILL BE PROJECTED ON THEM.
SO WE THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE STREETS.
WE DON'T THINK WE CAN NARROW IT DOWN FROM FOUR TO TWO AND HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE.
BUT WE THINK THAT WE CAN GO FROM FOUR TO THREE AND STILL BE WITHIN THE SAME GRADE, JUST BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THAT STREET IS PRETTY WIDE.
UM, THERE'S GOT A LOT OF CAPACITY IN THERE RIGHT NOW.
SO IT'S PROBABLY AN ONLINE OVERBUILT, WELL, THAT MIGHT BE TRUE, BUT, UH, PEOPLE ARE NOT GETTING OUT OF THEIR CAR STRAIGHT AWAY.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT, UH, THAT WOULD HAVE PEOPLE AVOIDING, UH, ALCOHOL AS AN EXIT BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT, UH, THAT IS A FREEWAY ACCIDENT AND ENTRANCE.
AND, UM, YOU'D MAYBE GOING INTO SANTEE AND NOT USING OUR, OUR SHOPPING CENTERS AND OUR CAR DEALERSHIPS AND EVERYTHING AS MUCH AS YOU'RE RIGHT IN THAT AREA.
UH, THE LAST, UH, THE LAST COMMENT I WOULD JUST MAKE IS, IS WE, SO THE PROJECT TEAM LOOKED AT THAT AND THAT'S HOW WE FEEL THAT WHAT THE DATA, WHAT THE DATA THAT WE HAVE, THAT'S HOW WE FEEL IS, IS THE BEST SOLUTION FOR THIS.
BUT, UM, WHAT I WOULD ALSO SAY IS, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT TEAM IS COMMITTED TO THIS PROJECT, INTO THAT AREA.
SO, UM, WHAT WE WOULD ALSO BE DOING IS EVEN ONCE THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE, WE'LL BE TAKING A LOOK AT THAT AREA AND MAKING SURE THAT WHATEVER IT IS THAT WE'RE ASSUMING IF THAT STILL STILL HOLDS, BUT THAT'S TOO LATE THEN AFTER IT'S COMPLETE, YOU'RE A DAY LATE AND A DOLLAR SHORT, RIGHT.
I SHARE SOME OF THE BOB'S CONCERN ABOUT THE BIKE BICYCLE LANES AND HAVE WE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AND WE, WE JUST ABSORBED THAT TRIANGLE BY THE, UH, METRO, UH, METRO CENTER THERE.
AND IT WILL PROBABLY EVENTUALLY BE AN AWFUL LOT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, TWO AND THREE STORY BUILDINGS IN THERE WITH THE GREAT INCREASE IN POPULATION, WHICH COULD LEAD TO A LOT MORE TRAFFIC.
UH, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE BE RIDING BIKES.
I I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT WE PUT FORTH A LOT OF RESOURCES FOR SOMETHING THAT THERE MAY NOT BE A WHOLE LOT OF DEMAND FOR, YOU KNOW, I, I SHARE BOB'S CONCERN ABOUT THAT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE RIDING THEIR BIKES OUT HERE IN EAST COUNTY ON A HOT SUMMER DAY.
WE KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF DEMAND FOR, FOR CARS, UH, BUT HOW HAVE WE LOOKED AT, UH, THE POSSIBLE BUILD-OUT OF THAT TRIANGLE AND HOW THAT WILL AFFECT TRAFFIC PATTERNS? YEAH.
UM, THE TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY THAT I WAS REFERENCING, UM, UH, THAT THAT'S, WHAT THAT WAS DONE FOR ESSENTIALLY IS IT'S SORT OF LOOK AT THE WHOLE AREA.
UM, BUT I WOULD WANT TO CLARIFY WHAT I SAID A LITTLE EARLIER, TOO, ABOUT MONITORING GOING FORWARD IS, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, ONE OF THE EXAMPLES OF THAT WOULD BE THE, ON THE, ON THE NORTHBOUND SIDE WHERE THE BIKE LANE IS AND WHERE THE BUFFERS ARE, WHERE THE FOUR FOOT BUFFER IS, WHERE WE'RE PROPOSING AND FLEXIBLE DELINEATORS, WELL, THOSE COULD BE REMOVED.
THOSE COULD EASILY BE REMOVED.
AND, AND, UH, RESTRIPE TO GO BACK TO TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION, IF, IF, IF, AS AN EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO, UH, EVEN AFTER THE, AFTER THE PROJECT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, A LITTLE BIT MORE OF, UM, UH, OF, UH, OF A COST THAT WOULD BE, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE MANAGEABLE.
I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA THAT THAT MAKES ME FEEL A LOT BETTER.
WELL, IF YOU CAN REMOVE IT WELL, I PUT IT IN THE FIRST PLACE AND, UH, THAT'S JUST GOVERNMENT WASTE, UH, COMING DOWN THE ROAD, PUT IT IN AND TAKE
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IT OUT RIGHT AWAY, BOB, THAT, THAT MIGHT BE A GOOD TEST, YOU KNOW, SOMETIME WITHOUT HAVING TO SOMETHING IS VERY EXPENSIVE AND, YOU KNOW, COST PROHIBITIVE TO REVERSE IT BECAUSE THEY COULD, THEY COULD PUT THOSE THINGS IN AND, AND, UH, THE COSTS WOULD BE MODEST COMPARED TO THE REST OF THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.AND YOU'D JUST PULL THOSE THINGS OUT BECAUSE, UH, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DESIGNED TO DO IN CASE, UH, THERE ISN'T ANY DEMAND FOR THE BIKE LANES THAT, THAT SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY GOOD COMPROMISE TO ME.
WELL, THERE MIGHT NOT BE MUCH DEMAND FOR THE BIKE LANES, BUT THERE'LL BE A LOT OF DEMAND FOR THE CAR LANES BECAUSE OF THE FREEWAY.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE YOUR BUYERS ARE DUMPING OFF THE FREEWAY, GO DOWN TO, UH, SOME OF THEM DO THE CAR DEALERSHIPS PARKWAY AND OUR BUSINESSES DOWN IN THAT AREA.
AND ACTUALLY, YOU MAY END UP WITH A LOT OF STUDENTS IN THAT AREA BECAUSE OF THE TROLLEY GOING TO SAN DIEGO STATE AND THEY TEND TO HAVE BICYCLES.
SO THAT, YEAH, WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO KNOW THAT UNTIL CLOSE TO WHEN IT'S BUILT OUT.
AND I LIKE THE IDEA THAT MAY ONLY COST A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS TO REMOVE, UH, THOSE POSTS IN THERE RATHER THAN THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO REDO ALL THE CONCRETE AND PAVING.
WELL, DO YOU THINK THE STUDENTS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD THE, THE NEW BUILDINGS THAT WE PUT UP? YOU KNOW, WHEN THE AVERAGE RENT IS LIKE A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR ONE BEDROOM? OKAY.
YEAH, I ACTUALLY, I THINK SO, UH, ALL THREE OF MY BOYS LIVED ON, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT OFF OF CAMPUS GOING TO SCHOOL AND, UH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY DESIRABLE FOR THEM TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE TROLLEY.
SO I THINK THERE'LL BE A LOT OF STUDENTS.
BECAUSE THE LAND COSTS ARE SO MUCH LESS HERE IN OKLAHOMA THAT IS, IS NEAR SAN DIEGO STATE, WHICH WILL TRANSLATE INTO SMALLER BUILDING COSTS AND SMALLER MORTGAGE COSTS AND LOWER RAMPS.
SO I THINK THAT, I THINK THEY'LL HAVE A LOT OF SAN DIEGO STATE STUDENTS THAT ARE ON THE TRAILING LINE THERE, UH, GO IN, IN A TROLLEY.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE'RE NOT TAKING A WHOLE LOT OF RISK HERE, BUT, UH, PUTTING IN THOSE, UH, PLASTIC PIPES, I ASSUME THEY'RE JUST PLASTIC.
SO THERE'S NOT WHERE WE'RE SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OR HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.
SO I THINK THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD QUALIFIED, YEAH.
GRAHAM, I LIKE TO INVITE YOU TO SAY WHY YOU DID A PROPONENT OF THIS PROJECT SO THAT I'M GUESSING THAT THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T DISCUSSED YET.
SO, SO AS YOU REMEMBER, A LOT OF TIMES STAFF WILL PRESENT PRETTY MUCH A PROJECT THAT'S FULLY BAKED AND SAY, HERE'S A PROJECT GLOVES, OR YOU COUNSELED GIVE, GIVE US THE, GO AHEAD TO GO OFF THE BID.
WE DECIDED, BECAUSE THIS IS THERE'S SOME, SOME NEW IDEAS COMING OUT OF THIS PROJECT.
SO THIS IS NOW THE TIME FOR COUNCIL TO REALLY GIVE US SOME THOUGHTS AND FEEDBACK, BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHY.
I THINK A LOT OF THINGS MAKE SENSE HERE.
I THINK THAT THAT STREET, THAT WHOLE AREA HAS A LOT OF CAPACITY.
I SPEND A LOT OF TIME IN THAT AREA.
UM, I GO RUNNING ON MY LUNCH BREAKS.
I SPENT A LOT OF TIME RUNNING IN THAT AREA AND THERE'S JUST LOADS OF CAPACITY.
THE STREETS HAVE THE WIDTH TO ACCOMMODATE THE TRAFFIC FLOWS.
UH, I'VE SEEN THAT ANECDOTALLY, UH, UM, THE DOWN OR THE, UM, TRANSIT DISTRICT SPECIFIC PLAN, ITS TRAFFIC ANALYSIS SAYS THAT'S THE CASE AS WELL.
SO, UM, I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE CONGESTION COMPONENT.
THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS, I MEAN, I'VE LIVED, I'VE LIVED IN THIS COUNTY, UM, SINCE 2003 AND I'VE BEEN TO ALCOHOL, UM, MANY TIMES, ESPECIALLY IN THAT AREA.
AND I'LL, I'LL BE HONEST EXCEPT FOR THE BMW DEALERSHIP.
UH, THERE'S NOT MUCH CHANGE IN THAT ENTIRE AREA AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO INFUSE SOME, SOME DRAMATIC CHANGES.
AND IF YOU SORT OF ENVISION WHAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW, UM, AND THEN JUST IMAGINE JUST NEW, DIFFERENT STREETS.
YOU'RE GONNA, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO MISS THE POINT.
I THINK YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AS, UM, A COMPLETE DIFFERENT DESIGN, A WHOLE RE NEW REDEVELOPMENT, AND YOU NEED THE INFRASTRUCTURE FIRST TO ACCOM ACCOMMODATE THE NEW REDEVELOPMENT.
SO I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT THING TO CONSIDER THE LAST TWO THINGS.
ONE IS, UM, THIS MONEY WAS, IS PREDICATED OR THE ONLY REASON WE WERE ABLE TO BE COMPETITIVE IN GETTING THIS GRANT MONEY WAS BECAUSE OF BIKE LANES.
NOW, WHETHER YOU HAVE, UH, A DESIGNATED SEPARATED BIKE LANE, A CLASS FOUR BIKE LANE, OR A SHARED
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BIKE LANE WITH THE STREET, UM, I DON'T THINK THAT'S AS IMPORTANT MR. MENDOZA CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.BUT I THINK GOING WITH THE IDEA OF CREATING A BIKE LANE THAT HAS SOME FLEXIBILITY.
SO IF, IF WE REALIZE, OH MY GOSH, TRAFFIC IS SO MUCH WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT IT WAS.
WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO BACK AND RE UH, OUR FIX, FIX THE CHALLENGE THERE.
SO I, I THINK THERE'S SOME INTERESTING RISKS HERE.
I THINK WE'RE LOOKING FOR COUNCIL DIRECTION ON HOW AGGRESSIVE YOU WANT US TO BE WITH THE BIKE LANE.
UM, AND IF, IF YOU THINK THAT SOMETHING, THE COMMUNITY CANNOT TOLERATE, THEN WE SHOULD PROBABLY, UH, PIVOT A LITTLE BIT.
OR IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO SEE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS, WE CAN PRESENT A FEW DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND BRING SOMETHING BACK A LITTLE BIT LATER ON WHEN WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE MEAT ON THE BONES.
UH, GRAHAM, YOU HAVE ANY STATISTICS ABOUT BICYCLE ACCIDENTS AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE INJURED OR KILLED IN ALCOHOL AND ON BIKES.
I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THAT, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN, WE CAN ACQUIRE, BUT YOU, UH, YOU BREWED THAT THERE'S WELL, THERE'S A LOT OF BLIGHT IN THAT AREA.
AND SO YOU BELIEVE WE CAN MITIGATE SOME OF THAT BLIGHT BY BUILDING UP THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
WELL, I MEAN, THERE'S, THERE HASN'T BEEN A LOT OF PRIVATE INVESTMENT IN THAT AREA.
AND ONE WAY TO ACHIEVE PRIVATE INVESTMENT IS TO PUT IN SOME PUBLIC FUNDS.
AND THAT WOULD BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO.
WE WOULD DO A REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT THERE, AND THAT WOULD BE THE WAY WE WOULD INFUSE MONEY.
SO USING SANDAG TRANSMIT MONEY IS ONE WAY TO DO THAT.
SO GRAHAM YOU'RE TELLING US THEN THAT THE BIKE LANE IS WHAT ALLOWS US TO GET THAT MONEY FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS OR IS PART OF THE REQUIREMENT.
WELL, IT'S, IT'S WHAT, WHEN YOU APPLY FOR A SANDAG GRANT, THERE'S DIFFERENT POINTS.
AND IF YOU WERE TO PRESENT A PROJECT WITH NO BIKE LANE, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ENOUGH POINTS TO ACHIEVE TO GET IT.
SO THE ONLY WAY YOU WOULD GET DATA ACHIEVED GRANT IS THE INCLUSION OF MULTIMODAL TRANSIT BIKE LANES.
ONE OF THOSE ARE REQUIREMENTS.
OKAY, WELL, YOU JUST WON ME OVER.
UM, CAUSE I, I DROVE DRIVE THROUGH THAT AREA EVERY SINGLE DAY.
UH, AND MAYBE TO ALLOW YOUR CONCERNS, BOB THERE, I HAVEN'T COME ACROSS, UH, A PROBLEM THERE WITH TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, EITHER DIRECTION.
UH, I THINK IT'S WORTH TO TAKE THE RISK ON THE BIKE LANES JUST TO GET THE MONEY, UH, TO IMPROVE THE AREA.
CAUSE IT ISN'T VERY APPEALING TO THE EYE RIGHT NOW.
UH, NOT A REAL PLEASANT FIELD TO DRIVE THROUGH THERE.
SO SOME LANDSCAPING, UH, WOULD BE A HUGE IMPROVEMENT AND I THINK IT WOULD BE, MAKE IT A LOT MORE DESIRABLE FOR BUSINESSES, UH, TO GO IN THERE.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO, I SUSPECT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVING IN THE EITHER APARTMENTS OR CONDOS, THE MULTI-STORY, UH, RESIDENTIAL THAT WE APPROVED ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
AND THAT'S GOING TO CREATE A DEMAND FOR PROBABLY SOME SMALL MOM AND POP SHOPS AND UH, MORE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC AND PEOPLE FEEL A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE WHEN THERE'S THAT, UH, BUFFER BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE STREET.
EVERYONE WILL WALK OVER TO THE STORE.
IT'S A MUCH MORE PLEASANT EXPERIENCE.
SO I THINK THIS IS GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
NOW THAT I'VE HEARD ALL THE TESTIMONY, UM, STEVE AND OR PHIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? I DO.
I'VE GOT A QUESTION ABOUT THE SANDAG GRANT.
UM, ARE THERE ANY RESTRICTIONS, FOR INSTANCE, IT HAS TO STAY THIS WAY FOR SO MANY YEARS IN ORDER TO KEEP THE FUNDS DURATION? I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE, UH, UM, I CAN'T RECALL.
UM, BUT WHAT, WHAT WE DID DO WAS IN THE, IN THE GRANT, WE HAD A PROPOSED, UH, LAYOUT OR PROSECTION.
AND SO THERE'S SOME FLEXIBILITY WITH THAT, BUT FROM TH FROM A DIMENSION POINT OF VIEW, BUT IF WE WERE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES, WE WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THEM TO APPROVE THOSE CHANGES, I GUESS.
CAN YOU HEAR MY CONCERN THAT THREE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD WE SAY, OH MY GOSH, WE NEED THAT BIKE LANE BACK.
AND SANDAG SAYS, WELL, WAIT A MINUTE, WE'RE GOING TO WANT SOME OF THIS GRANT MONEY BACK THEN.
YEAH, MR. GROVE, I THINK IF, IF WE MADE THESE CHANGES AND THEN, UH, THERE'S NO EVIDENCE OF TRAFFIC ISSUE, MITIGATION ISSUES, THEY WOULD PROBABLY WANT THAT MONEY BACK.
BUT IF WE COULD SHOW ON MAKE A STRONG CASE THAT THIS PROJECT HAS CREATED SOME CIRCULATION PROBLEMS, WHICH ULTIMATELY SANDAG GOAL, RIGHT.
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THEN I THINK WE WOULD HAVE A STRONG ARGUMENT.MY SECOND QUESTION IS WHY, WHY THIS PARTICULAR BLOCK AND W UH, BECAUSE WE GO FROM TWO LANES GETTING RIGHT OFF THE FREEWAY, AS BOB HAS COMMENTED DOWN TO ONE LANE HEADING EASTBOUND, AND THEN BACK UP TO TWO LANES BETWEEN JOHNSON AND ALCOHOL AND BOULEVARD, IT'S KIND OF LIKE, MID-BLOCK WHY, WHY DID YOU CHOOSE THAT SECTION? I THINK THE BEST ANSWER IS IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SORT OF A PART OF THE PROJECTS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED AS AN, AS A STARTING POINT FROM THE TDSP.
UM, SO THAT CORRIDOR OF, OF WEST MAIN STREET IS FROM ALL THE WAY FROM MARSHALL TO, TO, TO ALCOHOL BOULEVARD WAS REALLY THE WHOLE CORRIDOR.
UM, AND SO WE'RE, WE KIND OF TOOK IT IN, IN, IN PIECES.
UM, BUT CERTAINLY IF, IF, IF WE DO, IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL WITH THIS PROJECT, UM, WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO DO, TO KEEP, TO KEEP THAT GOING FURTHER.
AND, AND IT, AND IF IT'S SUCCESSFUL, UH, TO, TO CONTINUE THAT, UH, ALL THE WAY THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE, THE REST OF THAT CORRIDOR.
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE ON THIS PARTICULAR BLOCK THAT YOU'VE CHOSEN ALMOST THE ENTIRE NORTH SIDE IS THE SDG AND HE SUBSTATION, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY INVESTMENTS COMING FROM THE PRIVATE SECTOR ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT BLOCK.
UM, WHEREAS IF YOU SHIFT DOWN A BLOCK BETWEEN JOHNSON AND ALCOHOL AND GO HARD, UH, YOU'VE GOT LIBERTY ACADEMY, YOU'VE GOT SOME APARTMENTS DOWN THERE.
AND CERTAINLY PEOPLE WHO WOULD ENJOY A BETTER LOOKING FROTTAGE TO THE ROAD, RATHER THAN SPENDING THIS MONEY ON STGS POWER STATION FRONTAGE, THAT'S KIND OF A THOUGHT GOING THROUGH MY HEAD.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS TO THAT? UM, YOU DID THAT, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD, UH, THAT I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED BEFORE TOO, IS THAT, UH, THAT THAT'S ALSO, UM, PART OF THE FUNDING IS FOR THIS IS TO, IS TO CONNECT, UM, THESE MULTIMODAL FEATURES TO THE, TO THE ALCOHOLIC TRANSIT CENTER.
AND SO OUR PROJECT IS, IS ON, IS, IS, IS, UH, DOING IMPROVEMENTS ON WESTMEAD, BUT THEN WE'RE ALSO DOING SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS ON MARSHALL IN FRONT OF THE TRANSIT CENTER AS WELL.
SO I GUESS IF, IF WE'RE SAYING WHY THAT PLACE, WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S THE ORIGINAL CONNECTOR TO THE TRANSIT CENTER, AND I KNOW THAT WAS A PRIORITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT IT FOR, FROM A GRANT PERSPECTIVE, UM, THAT HELPS, THAT HELPS MAKE IT LOOK BETTER FOR THAT.
I GUESS I WOULD SAY THE NEXT STEP REALLY SHOULD BE FINISHED THE STREET AND GIVE THE PEOPLE IN FRONT OF THE LIBERTY ACADEMY AND THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF THE SAME LOOK, OTHERWISE IT'S JUST KIND OF A MID, MID BLOCK CHAINS.
SO, SO, UH, BOY, THERE SHOULD BE A SHORT TIMEFRAME ON FINISHING THE STREET.
UH, I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD A COUNCIL MEMBER, A GLOBAL, UM, THAT I BELIEVE WE HAVE ADDITIONAL, UH, GRANT APPLICATIONS TO DO THE REST OF THE STREET AS WELL.
SO, SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE IN THE WORKS AS WELL.
YEAH, I THINK THAT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE TRANSIT CENTER IS GOING TO COMPLETELY CHANGE THAT AREA AND BY US MAKING THESE IMPROVEMENTS, IT ALSO MAKES THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE TRANSIT CENTER, MUCH MORE DESIRABLE FOR INVESTORS.
AND, UH, BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE THE OLD, UH, CALIFORNIA METALS, UH, AREA, I'M SURE THAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED SOON ALSO BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH A DEMAND FOR HOUSING RIGHT NOW AND THE PARKING LOT OF THE TRANSIT CENTER.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THERE, UH, LOOKING FOR THINGS TO DO AND PLACES TO SHOP, WHERE THEY CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, WALK THE, WALK DOWN THE STREET TO DO THEIR SHOPPING AND IT ALL, IT ALL TIES TOGETHER AND, UH, MAKES FOR JUST A REALLY NICE ENVIRONMENT, WHICH MAKES IT DESIRABLE FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO LIVE THERE.
UH, I ALSO WANTED TO ADD TONY, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE GETTING KIND OF GRILLED HERE, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
YOU'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB, UH, AND EXPLAIN IT TO ME.
I MEAN, YOU'VE REALLY WON ME OVER AFTER ALL THESE QUESTIONS YOU'VE BEEN ASKED.
IF I, IF I CAN MAKE A POINT THAT MR. KENDRICK'S, UM, OBSERVATION, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT WE KNOW THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS FROM STAFF IS ALL NEW PROJECTS THAT WE WILL HOLD THEM TO A REALLY HIGH DEGREE AND THAT WHATEVER IS BUILT IN ALCOHOL IS OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY.
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IT'S DIFFICULT TO DEMAND THAT, HONESTLY, FROM A NEGOTIATION PERSPECTIVE, WHEN WE HAVEN'T DONE OUR INVESTMENT ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT WHEN WE'VE DONE THAT, IT'S EASY FOR US TO SAY WE JUST PUMPED $2.5 MILLION INTO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.YOU KNOW, WE EXPECT YOU TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA TO THIS PROJECT.
I THINK YOU ACHIEVED THAT FOR INSTANCE, WITH THE TEXAS ROADHOUSE DESIGN.
I THINK THE REMODEL OF THE POLICE STATION PROPERTY KIND OF PROMPTED THE TEXAS ROADHOUSE PEOPLE TO UP THEIR GAME A LITTLE BIT.
THAT, THAT ENABLED US TO PUSH THAT LIMIT.
OH, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING WE'VE GOT TO AFTER? PHIL'S KIND, WE SHOULD MOVE ON.
WE GOT A LOT LEFT, A LOT OF MEETING LEFT AND LET'S GET ANOTHER FIVE O'CLOCK WELL, I, I THINK WE BEAT A DEAD HORSE.
THANK YOU, TONY, FOR, UH, FOR KEEPING UP WITH OUR QUESTIONS.
AND, UH, I JUST LIKE TO UNDERLINE STEVE'S POINT OF LET'S MAKE SURE WE FINISHED THE STREET.
UM, SO, UH, WE HAVE SOME UNIFORMITY.
UM, ANGELA, WERE THERE ANY, UH, COMMENTS ON THIS? YES, SIR.
WE HAVE ONE COMMENT FROM MR. PATRICK
SO I WILL JUST, UH, REMIND YOU OF THAT NEXT TIME.
AND HE, UH, WROTE, UH, AS A NEARBY HOMEOWNER, I WANT TO LOSE MY SUPPORT, MY SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT.
I THINK IT IS A VALUABLE COMPONENT OF THE TRANSIT DISTRICT SPECIFIC PLAN.
AND WE'LL FURTHER THE GOAL OF CREATING A MORE BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD AND GATEWAY TO DOWNTOWN MORE BROADLY.
I WANT TO ENCOURAGE THE CITY CITY'S CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THE TRANSIC DISTRICT SPECIFIC PLAN, ESPECIALLY THE HIGH DENSITY AND MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT PLAN NEAR THE TRANSIT STATION AND ALONG THE MARSHALL AVENUE, OKLAHOMA BOULEVARD AND JOHNSON AVENUE CORRIDORS.
THAT'S THE END OF THE COMMENT.
UM, GENTLEMEN, UH, SOMEBODY'S WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS, MR. MAN, THIS IS, THIS IS NOT ACCEPTING A REPORT.
THIS IS GIVING US SOME FEEDBACK.
SO PAT, LET ME TELL YOU WHAT I FOUND AND YOU CAN TELL ME IF THIS IS ACCURATE.
YOU WANT IT TO COME BACK WITH SOME BIKE ACCIDENT DATA.
UM, YOU WANT IT TO COME BACK WITH SOME, MAYBE SOME BIKE LANE OPTIONS AND, UM, AND THEN WE CAN PRESENT SOME OF THOSE OPTIONS FOR, TO GET A LITTLE BIT MORE HOME, HOME THE PLAN A LITTLE BIT MORE.
ARE WE DELAYING THE PROJECT THOSE OUT? DO WE HAVE TIME IN THE TIMELINE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN? UM, WE ARE TRYING TO, AND TO, TO, TO MOVE THINGS ALONG, UM, MAYBE THERE'S A WAY TO MAYBE DO BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.
UM, GRAHAM WITH YOUR DECISION-MAKING ON THIS AND COMING BACK AND SHOWING US WHAT YOU'VE DECIDED ON IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE REST OF THE COUNCIL IS, UM, I THINK I'VE HEARD ENOUGH TO SAY WE'VE GOT SOME OPTIONS TO, UH, UNPLUG THIS IF WE NEED TO.
AND I'M FINE WITH WHAT STAFF DECIDES THAT THEY KNOW THAT THAT'S A CONCERN OF OURS.
ANYBODY ELSE? SO I TRUST, UH, THE STAFF JUDGMENT ON THIS AND THEN ESPECIALLY GRAHAM'S JUDGMENT.
HE MAKES A VERY GOOD POINT IN THE, HOW CAN WE ASK INVESTORS TO COME IN AND SPEND THEIR HARD-EARNED MONEY? UH, IF WE'RE NOT WILLING TO PUT SOME SKIN IN THE GAME, WE KNOW WITH OUR OWN MONEY AND MAKES THEM FEEL A LOT MORE SAFE IN THEIR INVESTMENT.
SO, GRAHAM, DO WE NEED A MOTION ON THIS OR IS THAT, ARE WE DONE? I THINK YOU'RE, WE'VE GOT THE, WE NEEDED MR. MAYOR.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PROJECT THEN OF THE NEXT ADMINISTRATOR REPORT IS ITEM 12 IS A PROJECT UPDATE ON THE MAIN STREET GREEN STREET.
UM, I WILL ASK, SO THIS, UH, MARIJUANA
[13. El Cajon Boulevard Streetscape Improvements - Project Update RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council receives the El Cajon Boulevard Streetscape Improvements project update and provides feedback on the proposed project.]
WAS A SONATA KACI.AGAIN, OUR, UM, AN ENGINEER WILL BE GIVING US THIS PRESENTATION, THANKS FOR NOT YOU'RE UP.
UM, GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF.
I'M
UM, THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT PROJECT AND, AND IT'S RIGHT IN THE HEART OF OUR CITY.
AND AS TONY SHOWED YOU A FEW MINUTES AGO, UH, JUST, UM, ALL THE EXCITING BIKE LANES THAT YOU GUYS WERE DISCUSSING.
I REALIZE DON'T HAVE MY POWERPOINT GOING FOR YOU.
SO THE PROJECT ALCOHOL BOULEVARD, STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS AIMS TO CONTINUE
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SUCCESSFUL.STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS INSTALLED BY THE CITY BACK IN 2008, UH, ON MAIN STREET AND MAGNOLIA AVENUE, UM, IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, ALONG WITH THE STREETSCAPE ENHANCEMENTS, A PRIMARY ASPECT OF OUR PROJECT IS THE INSTALLATION OF A TRAFFIC ROUNDABOUT AT THE INTERSECTION OF ALKALINE BOULEVARD AND JOHNSON AVENUE.
IT'S THE FIRST OF THREE TRAFFIC ROUNDABOUTS PROPOSED FOR THE ALCOHOL AND BOULEVARD CORRIDOR.
AND WE'LL REPLACE AN EXISTING TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
BEFORE WE GET INTO THE PROJECT DETAILS.
I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS THE AREA WE'LL BE WORKING IN AND HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO IMPROVE THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO OUR CITY.
THAT'S AL COHEN BOULEVARD COMING OFF THE OFF RAMP THERE WHILE THE ROUNDABOUT IS PLANNED FOR ALGOMA BOULEVARD AND JOHNSON.
UH, WE HAVE VAST STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS COMING ON ALCOHOL BOULEVARD FROM LEMON AVENUE ALL THE WAY UP TO LEXINGTON AVENUE, UH, FOR REFERENCE THAT'S NEARLY THE BMW DEALERSHIP TO THE VOLKSWAGEN, THE FORMER VOLKSWAGEN PROPERTY, I SHOULD SAY.
WE ALSO WORK ON PALM AVENUE, A FREQUENTLY USED ROUTE, CONNECTING ALCOHOL AND BOULEVARD TO THE TRANSIT CENTER ON MARSHALL.
SO DURING THE MAIN STREET PROJECT UPDATE, YOU JUST RECEIVED FROM TONY MENDOZA A FEW MINUTES AGO, HE SPOKE ABOUT THE TRANSIT DISTRICT SPECIFIC PLAN IN DEPTH OR I'LL CALL THE TDSP.
UH, THE SAME PLAN IS A KEY DRIVER TO THIS PROJECT.
SO IN 2018, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY COUNCIL WORKED TO REZONE THIS AREA THAT YOU SEE IN THE GRAPHIC ON THE LEFT, IT'S A TRIANGULAR AREA BOUND BY MAIN MARSHALL AND, AND BOULEVARD.
VERY GENERALLY THE STAR IN THE CENTER, UM, IS THE INTERSECTION OF ALGOMA BOULEVARD AND JOHNSON, AND IS THE FOCUS OF OUR PROJECT.
THE TSP MADE SWEEPING CHANGES TO LAND USE IN THE TRANSIT DISTRICT, AND IT'S IN AN EFFORT TO REVITALIZE A CRITICAL AREA OF OUR CITY.
UM, WE'RE TAKING A BOLD APPROACH TO, TO THIS AREA, STARTING WITH THE TDSP, UM, AN AREA THAT NEEDS HELP, UM, MANY INDUSTRIAL AND SMALL SCALE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ARE NOW ZONED MIXED USE RETAIL AND RESIDENTIAL.
AND WE ANTICIPATE SOME OF THAT DEVELOPMENT WHERE WE'RE HIGH RISES AND A LOT OF, UH, KIND OF URBAN LIVING IN THIS AREA.
SO ALONG WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE ZONING UPDATE, THE TDSP PROVIDES, UH, GUIDELINES FOR DESIGN, INCLUDING SUSTAINABLE STREET IMPROVEMENTS THAT SUPPORT WALKING, BIKING, AND TRANSIT USE THE PLAN ALSO CALLS FOR THOSE THREE TRAFFIC ROUNDABOUTS ON ALCOHOL AND BOULEVARD TO IMPROVE TRANSPORTATION.
UM, AGAIN, A GOAL OF THE TDSB IS TO ACHIEVE SUSTAINABILITY WITH SOME OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE.
SOME OF THE METHODS INCLUDE ESTABLISHING AN URBAN TREE CANOPY.
UM, THIS AREA IS HIGHLY UNDERTREATED, UM, AND, UH, ALSO IMPLEMENTING STORMWATER TREATMENT SYSTEM.
UH, IF YOU DRIVE THAT AREA NOW THERE'S, UH, AN AWFUL LOT OF CONCRETE AND ASPHALT.
SO WHY ADOPTING THE TDSP THE CITY BECAME HIGHLY QUALIFIED FOR VARIOUS GRANT OPPORTUNITIES, UM, WHILE THE COUNCIL AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WERE WORKING TO ADOPT THE TDSP COUNCIL, ALSO AUTHORIZED STAFF TO SUBMIT APPLICATIONS IN ORDER TO BEGIN IMPLEMENTATION OF THE TDSP.
SO WE WERE SUCCESSFUL, UM, ON TWO FRONTS, WE RECEIVED $2.5 MILLION ALSO THROUGH SANDAG SMART GROWTH INCENTIVE PROGRAM FOR THIS PROJECT.
IN ADDITION TO THE 2.5, UH, FOR TONY MENDOZA MENDOZA'S MAIN STREET PROJECT, UM, AND THAT, AND OUR SPECIFIC DOLLARS ARE TO CONSTRUCT THEM AND IMPLEMENT THOSE STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO IN A FEW MONTHS LATER, UH, THE CITY ALSO RECEIVED $250,000 FROM THE SAN DIEGO RIVER CONSERVANCY.
UH, THAT'S THROUGH PROP 68, AND THOSE DOLLARS ARE MEANT SPECIFICALLY FOR NEW STREET TREES AND STORM WATER TREATMENT SYSTEMS IN THE PROJECT LIMITS.
SO IN SUMMARY, UM, WITH TONY'S PROJECT AND MY, MY MIND ALSO, OR I SHOULD SAY THE CITY'S PROJECTS, THAT'S $5.5 MILLION, UH, AWARDED TO THE CITY BEING PRESENTED TO YOU TODAY.
SO WHEN LOOKING AT MAIN STREET AND THE ALKALINE BOULEVARD, STREETSCAPE PROJECTS, COLLECTIVELY, UH, GRANT FUNDING WILL ACCOUNT FOR ROUGHLY 80% OF ALL PROJECT EXPENSES.
AND THAT'S BASED ON OUR CURRENT 50%, 50% DESIGN.
SO A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROJECT AND SOME OF OUR EXISTING CONDITIONS.
HERE'S THE SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION OF ALKALINE BOULEVARD AND JOHNSON AS A STANDS TODAY.
UH, THIS IMAGE WAS TAKEN JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO, UM, IN SEPTEMBER, UH, THANKFUL TO OUR GIS TEAM WHO GOT ME THIS, UH, AERIAL IMAGERY, UM, ROUGHLY 17,000 VEHICLES PASSED THROUGH THIS INTERSECTION PER DAY, AS YOU CAN SEE STUFF TO SEE THERE, BUT THE NUMBERS IN RED REPRESENT THE, UH,
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VEHICLES PER DAY IN EACH DIRECTION.UM, OBVIOUSLY ALCOHOL BOULEVARD IS OUR DOMINANT ROUTE HERE, BUT WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC FLOWS ON JOHNSON AVENUE AS WELL.
AND JUST SOUTH OF THIS INTERSECTION, CLOSER TO THE BMW DEALERSHIP OR THE INTERSECTION OF WASHINGTON MARSHALL AND BOULEVARD, UM, WE HAVE NEARLY 25,000 VEHICLES PER DAY.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME SKEWED ANGLES, UM, AT THIS INTERSECTION, UH, JUST ABOUT ALL OF THE INTERSECTIONS.
WE WORK ON ALCOHOL OR PERPENDICULAR 90 DEGREE INTERSECTION, BUT, UM, WE'RE ATTACKING THIS CORRIDOR BECAUSE THERE'S SOME, UM, INTERESTING LAYOUTS THAT WE, WE WANT TO MAKE BETTER.
SO SIGHT DISTANCE IS REDUCED, UH, AROUND THESE CORNERS AND THE TRAFFIC VOLUMES ALONG WITH THE SITE DISTANCE HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO SUBSTANTIAL COLLISIONS AT THIS INTERSECTION.
UM, SO IT MAKES THOSE TURNING MOVEMENTS, MOVEMENTS DIFFICULT.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE LONGEST LEG THERE FROM, FROM CORNER TO CORNER, UM, PEDESTRIANS ARE FACED WITH LENGTHY CROSSWALKS AND PROBABLY SOME OF THE LONGEST IN THE CITY, UH, ROUGHLY 150 FEET.
SO EVERY TIME THOSE PEDESTRIANS ACTIVATE, UH, THOSE CROSSWALKS, UM, VEHICLES ARE STOPPING THERE.
AND FOR A LONG TIME, THOSE ARE SOME OF OUR LONGEST AND LONGEST CROSSINGS.
SO THE TIME ALLOWED FOR THOSE PEDESTRIANS TO CROSS, UH, ALSO MEANS IT'S THE LONGEST, UH, UH, AMOUNT OF SECONDS THAT WE GIVE OUT OF OUR 112 SIGNALIZED INTERSECTIONS.
SO YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED ALSO TEMPORARY TRAVEL FIX SIGNAL POLES.
UM, IF YOU TRAVEL THROUGH THIS INTERSECTION, UM, IF YOU'VE GONE RECENTLY, AT LEAST IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, SO TWO DIFFERENT TRAFFIC SIGNAL POLLS AT THIS INTERSECTION HAVE BEEN KNOCKED DOWN FOUR TIMES IN THE LAST TWO YEARS.
UM, THAT'S, UH, A HIGH PERCENTAGE WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO THE REST OF THE CITY.
UM, SO THIS INTERSECTION HAS GOT CITY CREWS, UM, PERFORMING MAINTENANCE PRETTY VERY OFTEN.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE THERE IN THE GRAPHIC, UM, 17 INJURY-RELATED CAUSE, UH, COLLISIONS IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
SO NOW WE CAN DIVE INTO THE PROJECT.
YOU KIND OF PROVIDED YOU SOME BACKGROUND, AND I'D LIKE TO DESCRIBE SOME OF THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE UNDER DESIGN THAT HAVE REACHED, UH, ROUGHLY THIS 50%, UH, MILESTONE.
SO WE'LL REMOVE THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL, ALCOHOL BOULEVARD AND JOHNSON IN FAVOR OF A SINGLE LANE ROUNDABOUT AS SHOWN IN THE TWO GRAPHICS HERE ON YOUR SCREEN, UM, WITH THE ROUNDABOUT COME SHORTER, HIGH VISIBILITY CROSSWALKS WITH WARNING FLASHERS, UM, WE'LL HAVE AREAS FOR PUBLIC PLAZAS, UH, NEW LIGHTING, NEW PLANTING AREAS WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
UH, WE'RE PLANNING FOR TWO LARGE SPECIMEN TREES THAT WILL CONVERT THE INTERSECTION INTO A CELEBRATED ENTRYWAY.
UM, IT'LL REALLY BE MORE OF A LANDMARK TYPE OF AREA AS YOU ENTER THE CITY.
THE ROUNDABOUT IS DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE EMERGENCY VEHICLES, SEMI TRUCKS, BUSES, AND YOUR EVERYDAY PASSENGER CARS.
UM, PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT FEATURE OF THE ROUNDABOUT IS WE CAN EXPECT AN OVERALL REDUCTION IN VEHICLE AND PEDESTRIAN COLLISIONS AND AN EVEN GREATER DECREASE IN SERIOUS INJURY COLLISIONS.
UM, THE TRADITIONAL CONFLICT POINTS, UH, OF A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION.
IN OTHER WORDS, UM, HEAD-ON COLLISIONS, UH, LEFT TURNS AND RIGHT TURN ANGLE CRASH TYPES WILL BE ELIMINATED.
UM, MOST TRAFFIC CONGESTION IS CAUSED BY INTERSECTIONS AND REDUCING THE NUMBER OF STOPS CAN REALLY IMPROVE THE TRAFFIC FLOW, UH, ESSENTIALLY ROUNDABOUTS KEEP TRAFFIC MOVING.
UM, WE CAN ALSO EXPECT SPEEDS AND TRAVEL TIMES THROUGH THE CORRIDOR, UH, TO BOTH GO DOWN.
SO WE'VE COVERED THE ROUNDABOUT ITSELF QUITE A BIT.
UM, AND I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE STREETSCAPE, UM, THAT'S PLANNED FOR THIS AREA.
AND AGAIN, THOSE LIMITS SPAN FROM HARDSCAPE, FROM, UM, CHAMBERLIN ALL THE WAY UP TO LEXINGTON, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOME STRIPING TRANSITIONS THAT'LL, UM, NICELY, UH, UH, SHIFT TRAFFIC.
SO ALKALINE BOULEVARD WAS CONSTRUCTED PRIOR TO INTERSTATE EIGHT AND ORIGINALLY DESIGNED TO BECOME THE MAJOR ROUTE THROUGH THE CITY.
SO FOR THIS REASON, THE STREET IS 130 FEET WIDE, UM, RIGHT AT THE HARLEY DAVIDSON FOR, FOR REFERENCE.
AND THAT'S RIGHT IN YOUR FRANKLIN AVENUE, FRANKLIN AND ALCOHOL AND BOULEVARD.
SO FOR COMPARISON, THIS IS NEARLY THE SAME WIDTH AS FLETCHER PARKWAY, UH, RIGHT IN FRONT OF PARKWAY PLAZA.
SO IF YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT CORRIDOR, YOU KNOW, THAT OUR STREET IS, IS WIDE FOR A REASON, THERE ARE SOME PRETTY SERIOUS TRAFFIC FLOWS AND IN OUR AREA THAT WE'RE WORKING IN MATCHES THAT WITH, UM, KIND OF UNNECESSARILY, I SHOULD SAY, UM, THE STREET IS OVER-DESIGNED FOR VEHICLES THAT WERE INTENDED TO USE THE STREET, BUT NOW TRAVEL IAA.
SO THE PROJECT, OUR PROJECT WILL ELIMINATE UNNECESSARY HARDSCAPE AND REPLACED WITH DIAGONAL PARKING PARALLEL PARKING, UH, SIDEWALK, WIDENED SIDEWALKS, LANDSCAPING, PUBLIC CLAUSES, AND PARKLETS, UM,
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WIDEN SIDEWALKS WILL ALLOW FOR STREET TREES, NEW DECORATIVE LIGHTING AND STORMWATER TREATMENT SYSTEMS. THE CONVERSION OF THE ASPHALT AND CONCRETE TO PLANTED AREAS IS A MAJOR STORM WATER BENEFIT FOR OUR CITY.IT'S GOING TO REDUCE RUNOFF INTO OUR STORM CHANNELS, INTO OUR CONVEYANCE CHANNELS, AND THEN REDUCE RUNOFF INTO THE SAN DIEGO RIVER, UM, WHICH IS A BIG BONUS IN THE RIVER CONSERVANCY'S EYES.
THAT'S WHY THEY GAVE US THAT $250,000 TO INVEST IN OUR COMMUNITY.
SO THESE STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS WILL IMPROVE.
UH, WE'LL BEGIN TO ESTABLISH THE ALCOHOL AND BOULEVARD, RETAIL VILLAGE.
AND, AND AGAIN, UM, THIS IS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU SEE IN MAIN STREET IN THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT, WHICH WE, UH, WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL WITH SINCE 2008.
UM, THE WIDENED PEDESTRIAN REALM, WE'LL, WE'LL CREATE NEW AREAS FOR OUTDOOR CAFES AND OUTDOOR DINING, WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY, UM, EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THESE DAYS.
SO HERE'S SO BEFORE AND AFTER, UM, TONIGHT'S EXHIBIT CREATED BY THE TDSP IT'S CONCEPTUAL, UM, HERE WE SEE THE CURRENT CONDITIONS ON ALCOHOL AND BOULEVARD.
AND IF I GO FORWARD ONE AND NOW A RENDERING OR CONCEPT AGAIN OF THE STREETSCAPE DESCRIBED ON, ON THE PREVIOUS PREVIOUS SLIDE.
SO LISTEN, HANDS, PUBLIC REALM IS A GOAL OF THE TDSP IMPROVEMENTS ARE INTENDED TO BENEFIT MOTORISTS, PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS.
SO ALL MODES OF TRAVEL, UH, WE HOPE THIS ENVIRONMENT WILL ATTRACT, UH, PROSPECTIVE PROPERTY OWNERS CONSIDERING THE AREA FOR NEW D NEW PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT.
WHILE WE HAVE OUR OWN SUCCESSFUL EXAMPLE OF STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENTS HERE IN THE DOWNTOWN.
THERE'S OTHER PROVEN EXAMPLES OF STREETSCAPE AND ROUNDABOUTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
UM, A LONG-STANDING EXAMPLE IS SAN DIEGO'S FIVE ROUNDABOUTS AND STREETSCAPES ON LOYAL BOULEVARD, UM, WHICH THEY CONSTRUCTED THOSE AROUND THE SAME TIME.
WE WERE DOING ALL OF OUR IMPROVEMENTS AT PRESCOTT PROMENADE AND MAIN STREET AND MAGNOLIA AVENUE.
SO ROUGHLY 10 OR 12 YEARS AGO, UM, MANY NORTH COUNTY CITIES HAVE COMPLETED SIMILAR PROJECTS WHILE EAST COUNTY CITIES ARE PURSUING GRANT FUNDING TO HAVE SIMILAR SUCCESS.
SO THE CITY WAS OFFICIALLY ALL GRANT FUNDING, AND AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR, UM, EXTENSIVE DESIGN WORK IS UNDERWAY AND WE HOPE TO COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS BY THE SPRING.
UM, BASED ON THE PROGRESSION OF OUR DESIGN WORK AND FUNDING TIMELINES REQUIRED BY SANDAG.
OUR GOAL IS TO COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION BY MID TO LATE 2022.
AND OF COURSE, WE'LL KEEP IN MIND, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION ALSO COMING JUST AROUND THE CORNER WITH THE MAIN STREET BIKE LANES.
AND WE WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF HAVING TOO, TOO LARGE OF AN IMPACT ON, ON, ON THE PUBLIC WHILE WE'RE PUTTING IN ALL THESE AWESOME NEW FEATURES.
SO OUR DEPART ON THAT KNOW, OUR DEPARTMENT HAS ALSO KICKED OFF A SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC OUTREACH PLAN.
UH, IT'S JUST IN THE EARLY STAGES, UH, IN WHICH WE'LL COORDINATE ALL UPCOMING WORK WITH RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES.
UH, WE'VE CREATED A PROJECT WEBPAGE AND AN EMAIL, AND WE PLAN FOR PERIODIC MAILERS, UH, AS WELL AS, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA UPDATES.
UH, THIS IS IN ADDITION TO MEETING WITH PROPERTY OWNERS ON SITE, UM, WALKING THEM THROUGH THE IMPROVEMENTS PLANNED ALONG THEIR FRONTAGE, UH, SIMILAR TO, UH, THE BIG GREENFIELD DRIVE PROJECT THAT TONY MANAGED MANY YEARS AGO, WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE GO DOOR TO DOOR AND WORK WITH OUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S ON THE SAME PAGE AND, UM, AND IS HAPPY AT THE END OF ALL OF THESE, UH, IMPROVEMENTS.
SO SINCE THIS IS THE VERY FIRST STEP OF IMPLEMENTING THE TDSP, OUR PROJECT WILL SET THE TONE FOR THE TRANSIT DISTRICT.
ALONG WITH THE MAIN STREET PROJECT TONY WAS TELLING YOU ABOUT, UM, WE, WE SINCERELY HOPE TO SPUR, UM, MORE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INVESTMENT IN THIS AREA AS IT REALLY NEEDS SOME HELP.
UM, THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR YOUR TIME.
UM, THIS END, THE MAIN STREET PROJECT ARE EXCITING FOR ALCOHOL AND, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING YOUR THOUGHTS.
I KNOW YOU GUYS TALKED EXTENSIVELY ABOUT MAIN STREET ALREADY, UM, BUT TONY IS STILL AROUND.
IF WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ALL EARS.
UM, I ALSO HAVE, UH, ROSS DUENAS ON THE LINE.
ALSO, WE CAN BRING HIM IN, HE'S A PART OF THE ENGINEERING CONSULTANT TEAM.
THAT'S HELPING US WITH THIS PROJECT.
UM, WE HAVE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS INVOLVED.
UM, SO, UH, AS MR. MITCHELL SAID, WE, WE WANT TO BRING THE HIGHEST QUALITY TO AN IMPORTANT AREA OF OUR CITY.
WELL, IT'S A GREAT PRESENTATION AND, UM, THAT'S KIND OF EXCITING.
LET'S, UH, GET THOUGHTS TO THE COUNCIL AND, UH, GO FROM THERE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION.
UM, WITH REGARD TO THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE CIRCLE, THE EGG SHAPED ONE.
UM, MY CONCERN IS WITH, UH, THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S GOING TO BE THERE.
IS THAT GOING TO PREVENT HOMELESS AND CANVAS FROM POPPING UP TO, YOU KNOW, JUST TO GET RIGHT AT IT? MY CONCERN IS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE A NICE GREEN LAWN AND
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HOMELESS ARE GONNA JUMP ON IT AS A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN CAMP OUT.IT IS A LANDSCAPE IN A, UM, DISCOURAGE THAT MR. ORTIZ, WE ACTUALLY, WHEN WE WERE, UH, WORKING ON THIS, INITIALLY, WE LOOKED AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
THERE, ONE, EVEN MORE OF A MONUMENT, THERE ARE MAYBE SOME ACTIVATED SPACES, BUT OUR CONCERN WAS THAT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY BE MORE OF AN ATTRACTOR.
SO LIKE WE'RE DOING AT WELLS PARK, WE THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME ELEMENTS TO THE LANDSCAPING THAT WILL DISCOURAGE, UM, AND CAMP MATES IN A, THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF GROUND COVER YOU USE AND, AND OTHER FEATURES THAT WILL OFTEN MR. COCKY, YOU HAVE SOME MORE TO ADD.
YOU CAN GIVE SOME MORE SPECIFICS, BUT WE, WE DID THINK THAT THROUGH AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THIS INITIAL DESIGN PORTION.
I WILL JUST ADD, I MEAN, THEY'RE IN THE, UM, GRAPHIC THAT YOU SEE, IT DOES LOOK KIND OF LIKE A TURF LAWN, UM, BUT WE JUST HAVE NOT APPROACHED THAT PHASE OF THE DESIGN YET WHERE WE WILL BE SELECTING, UM, THAT TYPE OF VEGETATION THAT'S, UH, FRANKLY IS NOT TOO COMFORTABLE TO FLY DOWN ON.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS? WELL, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT AND, UH, I LOVE THAT, UH, 80% OF IT'S GOING TO BE PAID FOR.
UM, I THINK WE SHOULD, UH, APPROVE THIS AND MOVE FORWARD.
UH, GRAHAM, MY SCRIPT SAYS THAT BOTH OF THESE NEED, UM, MOTIONS, BUT, UM, THIS IS SIMILAR TO THE OTHER ONE.
UH, MR. ORTIZ'S REMINDER OF THE, THE MATERIAL IS VERY USEFUL.
IF THERE'S ANY OTHER THOUGHTS, WE'D APPRECIATE THEM.
YOU KNOW, I, FOR ME, I THOUGHT YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB OF THIS.
I, YOU KNOW, THE LAST ONE WAS A LITTLE CONCERNING ABOUT THE BIKE LANE, BUT I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS ABOUT THIS.
I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE REALLY EXCITING.
IT'S GOING TO BE A REALLY GOOD PROCESS TO START, UH, FLIPPING THE, THE, UH, THE BLIGHT THAT WE SEE IN THAT AREA.
AND I'M, I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.
UM, HOW MANY VACANT BUILDINGS, WHAT PERCENTAGE DO WE HAVE THAT ARE VACANT AND ALCOHOL, INCLUDING PARKWAY.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE SOME THINGS OPENING UP ON THIS AREA, BUT, UH, WHEN WE HAVE VACANCIES AND OTHER AREAS, UM, I THINK MAYBE WE'RE, OVERDEVELOPING THE COMMERCIAL AND NOT ENOUGH, UM, RESIDENTIAL.
UM, MS. MERCOLA, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT.
I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA POINT FOR YOU, BUT I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE TRANSIT DISTRICT SPECIFIC PLAN.
I THINK THERE'S A RECOGNITION THAT WE PROBABLY ARE OVERDEVELOPED COMMERCIALLY.
AND SO THERE'S A NEED TO INFUSE SOME RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS AS PART OF THAT, TO GIVE MORE DEMAND FOR, FOR COMMERCIAL.
I THINK THAT'S THE GOAL OF THE DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN, AS WELL AS, AS THE TRANSIT DISTRICT'S SPECIFIC PLAN AS WELL.
SO I THINK YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.
WE NEED TO INFUSE DIFFERENT USES IN THERE BESIDES JUST MORE RETAIL.
AND WE, WE ALREADY HAVE SO MANY APARTMENTS.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANY MORE APARTMENTS.
I THINK WE NEED, UH, UNLESS WE HAVE REALLY NICE, UM, DESIGN AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, UH, AND, AND PLENTY OF AMENITIES.
WE DON'T WANT ANY, UM, EL CHEAPO.
IT'S LIKE WE GOT FIFTIES AND SIXTIES WHERE THEY JUST HAVE A SLAB IN A PARKING LOT AND OUR BUILDING COULD NOT AGREE MORE.
WE NEED PROFESSIONALLY, UH, UM, UH, WITH THE RIGHT AMENITIES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
JUST A SLAB, A BUILDING, WE'LL BE ASKING THE AMBULANCE IF SHE HAD ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS.
UM, WE HAVE TWO AND AGAIN, THE FIRST ONE FROM MR. PATRICK GREEN ROAD IS, UM, IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM AND IT'S AGAIN, THE SAME LANGUAGE HE HAD ON THE SECOND ON THE FIRST ONE AND THE SECOND ITEM, SECOND COMMUNISTS FROM GORGEOUS.
AND IT READS HOW CAN ALCOHOL BOULEVARD, STREETSCAPE IMPROVEMENT, PROJECT BENEFIT PEOPLE AND IDENTIFY THE SAFETY FOR THEM.
THAT'S THE END OF THE COMMENTS? I'LL SAFETY IS IMPORTANT, BUT I THINK THIS, THIS WHOLE PROJECT IS GOING TO BE MORE SAFE THAN THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW.
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OKAY.UH, COUNSELORS, YOU WAS YOUR CHANCE TO GIVE MORE FEEDBACK TO GRAHAM BEFORE WE SEND IT OFF TO DEVELOP.
ARE YOU ANY QUESTIONS, GRAHAM? NO.
GREAT, GREAT INPUT FROM COUNCIL.
THEN LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SEMESTER.
ITEM 13 IS A PROJECT UPDATE ON THE ALCOHOL BOULEVARD, STREET, SCAPE IMPROVEMENTS AND STAFF.
I THINK WE'RE ON TONIGHT IN 14 RIGHT NOW, BUT THIS VEHICLE WE'VE ALREADY BEAT THAT ONE TO DEATH.
YOU KNOW, I CAN ONLY DO SO MANY THINGS AT ONCE.
[14. Cal OES Type III Brush Engine Assignment RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council adopts the next Resolution, in order, to; Authorize the City Manager or designee to accept assignment of vehicular equipment for the purpose of responding to incidents in furtherance of the California Fire Service Rescue Emergency Mutual Aid Plan; and To execute any documents and agreements necessary to obtain the vehicular equipment assignment.]
NEXT ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT ITEM 14 IS REGARDING THE CAL OES BRUSH ENGINE.AND I'LL ASK STAFF TO TELL US ALL ABOUT IT.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
THIS IS A CHIEF STEVE SWEENEY.
AND TONIGHT BEFORE YOU, I HAVE A REPORT, UH, REGARDING A CAL OES TYPE THREE, A BRUSH ENGINE.
IF YOU GIVE ME A MINUTE, I'LL GO AHEAD AND PULL UP A SHORT, UH, UH, PRESENTATION ALONG WITH THE, UH, UM, COME ON VIDEO WITH THAT.
SO TONIGHT I HAVE, BEFORE YOU A CAL CALIFORNIA OES OFFICE OF EMERGENCY SERVICES TO THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE, UH, TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEIR FIRE ENGINE PROGRAM THAT THEY HAVE, UM, REALLY THE INTENT OF THIS PROGRAM IS TO DEVELOP A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE STATE AND LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENTS, UH, WHICH EVENTUALLY HELPS OUT CALIFORNIA, UH, MAKES THEM READY TO RESPOND AT A MOMENT'S NOTICE TO EMERGENCIES AND DISASTERS THROUGHOUT THE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
UH, WE'VE SEEN THAT THIS YEAR SO FAR, UH, PRETTY HEAVILY WITH ALL THE WILDFIRES IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA IN RECENT PAST, WE'VE SEEN THESE, UH, OTHER INCIDENCES WITH MUDSLIDES UP IN MONTECITO AND, UH, SOME OTHER MAJOR DISASTERS.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT REALLY AUGMENTS THEIR, UH, THEIR FLEET AND THEIR ABILITY TO, UH, TO RESPOND TO THOSE EMERGENCIES, A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY BEHIND IT.
UM, IT BEGAN IN 1951 AS PART OF THE, UH, FEDERAL CIVIL DEFENSE PROGRAM.
UH, FEDS OFFERED UP A MATCHING GRANT TO BOTH STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, UH, TO PURCHASE EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT.
AND REALLY IT'S BASED OFF THE PHILOSOPHY THAT NO ONE AGENCY CAN AFFORD TO PURCHASE AND STAFF AND MAINTAIN SUFFICIENT APPARATUS FOR SUCH LARGE SCALE INCIDENTS.
UM, PROVEN POINT IS SOME OF THE FIRES AGAIN THIS YEAR, OVER 18,000 PERSONNEL ON THOSE INCIDENTS TRYING TO DEAL WITH THEM.
UM, SO IN 1953, THROUGH 1954, UM, CALIFORNIA OES PURCHASED ABOUT A HUNDRED STRUCTURAL TYPE ONE, UH, FIRE ENGINES AND, UH, DISTRIBUTED THEM THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
UM, THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN AND INCREASE THAT FLEET.
AND CURRENTLY IT SITS SOMEWHERE AROUND A HUNDRED, A HUNDRED AND, UH, UH, 14 ENGINES THAT ARE, UH, SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
NOW I'LL EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT A STRUCTURAL TYPE FIRE ENGINE IS.
AND THE IN A BRUSH ENGINE IS IN A MINUTE, UM, CALIFORNIA IS CURRENTLY THE ONLY STATE IN THE COUNTRY.
UM, THAT'S STILL, UH, RUNS THIS PROGRAM AND IT, UH, IS THE CORNERSTONE OF THE CALIFORNIA'S FIRE RESCUE AND MUTUAL AID SYSTEM.
AS YOU, UH, HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO SEE, UM, YEAR AFTER YEAR THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUT A LOT OF RESOURCES ON THESE INCIDENTS AND, UH, REALLY RESPOND AS A, UH, AS A STATE RESOURCE AND TAKE CARE OF LARGE-SCALE DISASTERS? SO, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, UH, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A TYPE THREE AND A TYPE ONE ENGINE, YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE RIGHT, THE RED ENGINE IS ACTUALLY ONE OF OURS.
AND THAT IS THE TYPICAL ENGINE THAT YOU SEE GOING DOWN THE STREET ALL THE TIME IN ALCOHOL.
UM, IT'S CONSIDERED TO BE A STRUCTURAL ENGINE, UH, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT'S ITS SPECIALTY IS CARRIES A LOT OF LARGE DIAMETER HOSE, UH, BREATHING APPARATUS AND THINGS TO FIGHT, UH, STRUCTURE FIRES, UH, AND, AND RESPOND ON SUCH INCIDENTS LIKE THAT.
ON THE LEFT, THERE IS A, A, UM, A CAL OES TYPE THREE BRUSH ENGINE.
THAT'S A SPECIALTY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.
IT'S FOUR WHEEL DRIVE CARRIES ABOUT 500 GALLONS OF WATER.
UM, IT'S DESIGNED TO GO OFF ROAD, UM, AND, UH, CARRIES SPECIFIC EQUIPMENT, UH, RELATED TO, UH, PUTTING IN VERY LONG, PROGRESSIVE HOSE LAYS TO DEAL WITH WILD-LAND INCIDENTS.
AND IT ALSO HAS A PUMP THAT'S CAPABLE OF PUMPING AT HIGHER PRESSURES THAN A TYPICAL, UH, ENGINE WOULD HAVE.
SO THE PROGRAM ITSELF, UM, IT STARTED REALLY AFTER, UH, THE 2003 FIRE SEASON.
I THINK WE ALL REMEMBER THAT HERE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY WITH THE CEDAR FIRE, UM, THE GOVERNOR'S BLUE RIBBON COMMISSION IDENTIFIED
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THE NEED TO, UH, TO PUT SPECIALTY BRUSH ENGINES, UH, THROUGHOUT THE STATE TO AUGMENT THE TYPE ONE FLEET THAT THEY ALREADY HAD.UM, THEY WERE ALREADY IN THE BUSINESS OF PROVIDING SOME HAZMAT RESOURCES AND ALSO SOME RESCUE RESOURCES.
SO IT JUST MADE SENSE FOR THEM TO GET INTO THE BRUSH ENGINE BUSINESS.
SO WITH THAT, THEY PURCHASED 40, UH, MODEL 34 TYPE THREE BRUSH ENGINES, AND THEY HAVE PLACED THEM THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
UM, THEY CURRENTLY HAVE AUGMENTED THE FLEET HERE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY, UM, THIS, UH, ALONG WITH US GETTING THIS BRAND NEW ONE, THERE'LL BE 10 OF THESE ENGINES IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY, UM, ALONG WITH THE 11 TYPE ONES THAT THEY ALSO HAVE HERE.
UM, SO IT REALLY AUGMENTS THE, UH, THE ABILITY FOR US TO RESPOND AND DEAL WITH THESE, THESE INCIDENTS IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY, THESE ENGINES ARE PURCHASED FULLY EQUIPPED, AND THEN THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO LOCAL GOVERNMENT AGENCIES SUCH AS THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA, UM, ON A TEMPORARY USE AGREEMENT.
SO THAT EQUIVALENT PROBABLY TO SOMEWHERE AROUND THE MID $400,000 BETWEEN THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT AND, AND ALL OF THE, UH, THE FULLY EQUIPPED, UH, HOSE AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.
SO FOR THE CITY, WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT THE STATE WILL PAY FOR ALL MAINTENANCE AND REPAIRS, UM, AFTER WE PAY FOR THE FIRST HUNDRED DOLLARS.
SO FOR EVERY OIL CHANGE FOR EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON, UH, THE CITY PAYS FOR THE FIRST HUNDRED DOLLARS, AND THEN THE STATE PICKS UP THE TAB, UM, FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR THE REMAINDER OF THAT.
UH, SO ESSENTIALLY THE APPARATUS IS ON LOAN TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR USE IN THEIR JURISDICTION, AND WE JUST BASICALLY, UH, STAFF IT, AND THEN WHEN THEY STATE NEEDS IT ON A LARGE SCALE, UH, DISASTER, THEN WE CAN SEND UP IN THE MEANTIME, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE FREE TO USE IT WITHIN OUR JURISDICTION.
WE HAVE SOME HIGH FIRE HAZARD SEVERITY ZONES, UH, WITHIN THE CITY.
UM, AND, AND WE'LL BE PLACING IT OUT IN THOSE AREAS.
WE'LL BE PLACING OUT AT STATION NINE.
SO IT'S READILY AVAILABLE TO A LOT OF THE CANYON AREAS WHERE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF RECENT ISSUES WITH SOME FIRES OVER OFF OF MAIN STREET FLETCHER PARKWAY, AND SUCH.
SO, UM, AGAIN, THIS IS PART OF THE, UH, CALIFORNIA MUTUAL AID PLAN.
UM, THE STATE ADDITIONALLY RE REIMBURSES US FOR ALL COSTS FOR PERSONNEL, UM, WHEN IT IS ASSIGNED TO A STATE AND FEDERAL INCIDENTS.
SO FROM THE TIME THAT WE LEAVE THE CITY, TILL THE TIME THAT WE COME BACK, THE STATE REIMBURSES US FOR THOSE, UH, PERSONNEL COSTS, UM, WE WILL BE CROSS TAPPING THE ENGINE, UM, WITH THE CREW THAT'S ALREADY AT THAT STATION.
SO IT WILL NOT REQUIRE US TO HIRE ANY ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL.
UM, WE'LL USE OUR EXISTING PERSONNEL AND WE WILL BACKFILL, UM, THAT STATION, UH, WITH PERSONNEL, IF THE RIG DOES GO OUT.
SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE FULLY STAFFED WITHIN THE CITY AND NOT HAVE A REDUCTION IN STAFFING SO WE CAN SERVE THE CITIZENS.
UM, IN ADDITION, UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS WILL AUGMENT OUR EXISTING FIRE FLEET CAPABILITIES.
WE CURRENTLY DO NOT HAVE A, A, A TYPE THREE OR A BRUSH ENGINE IN THE CITY'S FLEET.
UM, THE LAST ONE THAT WE HAD WAS IN A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE COUNTY, UM, AND THEY ENDED UP TAKING THAT BACK A FEW YEARS AGO.
UM, SO, UM, THIS WILL GIVE US A LOT MORE CAPABILITY THAN, THAN WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST.
SO WITH THAT REPORT, UM, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTS THE NEXT RESOLUTION IN ORDER TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER OR DESIGNEE TO ACCEPT THE ASSIGNMENT OF THE VEHICLE AND TO EXECUTE ANY DOCUMENTS AND AGREEMENTS NECESSARY FOR THIS.
SO WITH THAT, I'M FREE TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
HEY, COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF, UH, CHIEF? I THINK THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, CAUSE EVERYBODY'S JUST REALLY EXCITED.
I'M SURE ALL THE FIREFIGHTERS ARE EXCITED TO HAVE THIS, UH, UPS EQUIPMENT.
THEY ARE, THEY'RE EXTREMELY EXCITED FOR IT.
BREAKS LEG A WIN-WIN PROPOSITION.
UM, LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANY, UM, UH, ANGELO, DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, SPEW CARDS INSIDE HIM? NO COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED, SIR.
UM, SO I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY ABOUT THIS.
IF SOMEBODY LIKES TO MAKE A MOTION, WE WOULD THE OPTION.
SECOND MAYOR WEALTHIER YOUR VOTE, PLEASE.
OH, I, I FORGOT TO MENTION THE COUNCIL MEMBER GO.
WE'LL HAD TO LEAVE FOR A PRESSING ENGAGEMENT.
SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE ON WITHOUT HIM.
COUNCIL MEMBER, KENDRICK AND COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
IT ACTUALLY MAKES ME FEEL SAFER TO HAVE THAT AROUND.
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OKAY.THEN, UH, WE, UH, HAVE, UH, TWO MORE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS.
[15. COVID-19 Status Report RECOMMENDATION: No action required.]
STATUS REPORT, WHICH OUR CITY MANAGER WILL GIVE TO US.THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
UM, I DO HAVE THE NEXT TWO REPORTS AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE, WE'VE COVERED A LOT OF, OF ITEMS TONIGHT, SO I'LL BE BRIEF, BUT, UH, SEVERAL MEETINGS AGO, THE COUNCIL ASKED THAT STAFF PROVIDE A KIND OF A STATUS REPORT OF WHERE WE'RE AT ALL THINGS COVID.
AND SO I'LL JUST KIND OF SHARE, UM, A COUPLE OF DATA POINTS AND THEN KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT WITH, UM, OUR CURRENT LEVELS WITH THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
AND THEN I WANTED TO JUST HIGHLIGHT AN OPERATIONAL THING.
I'M TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THESE KIND OF SHARE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE AS A CITY, UM, TO MAINTAIN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE DESPITE THE PANDEMIC.
SO, UM, AGAIN, THIS TABLE IS A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON IN IT, BUT IF I CAN POINT OUT THESE GREEN LINES SHOW THE NUMBER OF REPORTED TESTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED OR TESTS THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN PLACE.
AND THE YELLOW LITTLE BARS ARE THE NUMBER OF NEW CASES THAT HAVE EMERGED.
SO YOU CAN SEE OVER THE LAST MONTH WE'VE BEEN HAVING, UM, AN AVERAGE FROM THE 300 TO FOUR HUNDREDS, HER A DAY OF NEW CASES FOR LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, WE'VE HAD IN THE FIVE HUNDREDS.
AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE WE'VE MOVED INTO A NEW TIER AS DEFINED BY THE STATE.
I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND.
UM, THIS SHOWS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE ADMITTED IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY TO HOSPITALS RELATIVE TO, OR RELATED TO COVID-19 LAST, UH, TWO WEEKS AGO THAT THAT RED LINE WAS A SHARPER DECLINE BECAUSE WE WERE ACTUALLY ON A VERY STEEP DECLINE.
WE'RE STILL OVERALL HAVING LESS PEOPLE ADMITTED TO THE HOSPITAL RELATED TO COVID CALLS, BUT NOT AT THE SAME WEIGHT OF REDUCTION AS WE HAVE IN THE PAST.
UM, AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, UH, COUNCIL ASKED FOR SOME DATA ABOUT BED CAPACITY IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.
SO THIS CHART SHOWS THE TOTAL NUMBER OF BEDS AVAILABLE, AND THERE'S ABOUT 6,030 BEDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE.
CAN COUNSEL, CAN YOU SEE MY MOUTH AS I MOVE IT AROUND? OKAY.
SO THIS SHOWS THE LINE OF TOTAL NUMBER OF BEDS, AND THERE IS THIS IDEA TO RESERVE THIS AMOUNT OF BEDS HERE FOR COVID PATIENTS.
SO IN THE EVENT THAT WE WERE TO HAVE A, UM, UH, INFLUENZA BREAKOUT OR HEPATITIS A OR SOME OTHER BREAKOUT THAT'S WOULD PUSH UP INTO THIS FOCAL AREA, THAT'S SORT OF RESERVED, IT'S ALMOST OUR COVID CUSHION.
SO, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE COVID CUSHION AND WE HAVE A LOT OF CAPACITY, UM, MOVING FORWARD.
AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE HOW MANY COVID RELATED PATIENTS THERE ARE WITH THE UTIL, THE LITTLE YELLOW LINE AT THE VERY BOTTOM.
UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE PATIENTS IN HOSPITALS ARE, ARE THERE FOR A LOT OF OTHER REASONS THAT ARE THERE DAY IN AND DAY OUT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS SPECIFICALLY? NO.
AT THE TOP OF THE BLUE LINE, UH, IS THAT SHOW, UM, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY IN BEDS ARE THE, THOSE ARE THE AVAILABLE, SO, YEAH.
THESE, THESE BAR, THIS BLUE BAR RIGHT HERE SHOWS HOW MANY TOTAL PEOPLE ARE IN THE HOSPITAL RIGHT NOW ON THIS GIVEN DAY.
SO 4,356 PEOPLE ARE TOTALLY THERE.
AND OF THOSE 4,356, 331 OF THEM ARE THERE WITH COVID.
SO ABOUT 10, LESS THAN 10% CORRECT.
UH, SO, UM, THIS IS DATA THAT I'VE PUT TOGETHER.
THIS SHOWS AN ESTIMATED NUMBER OF ACTIVE CASES YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEWSPAPER OR THE COUNTY, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CASES SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE PANDEMIC.
I'M, UH, THAT'S A VERY USEFUL DATA POINT.
I THINK HOSPITALIZATIONS ARE REALLY USEFUL DATA POINT, BUT LOOKING AT ACTIVE CASES IS USEFUL AS WELL.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE HAD THIS MASSIVE SPIKE.
WE TALKED ABOUT A LAST WEEK OR TWO WEEKS AGO, HAD THIS REALLY MASSIVE SPIKE TWEAKS.
AFTER THE 4TH OF JULY, WE'VE BEEN HOVERING AROUND FOR THE 4,000 A LEVEL OF ACTIVE CASES FOR FOUR MONTHS NOW, BUT IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS, WE'RE SEEING A SPIKE AND WE'RE WELL OVER 5,000 NOW OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS.
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'VE MOVED INTO THIS NEW TIER, WHICH WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN A SECOND.
WHAT'S THAT VIPER FIVE PERCENTAGE, THE NUMBER OF CASES THAT ARE IN THE HOSPITAL ARE A LOT SMALLER THAN WHAT, UM, WHAT, UH,
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THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE COVID, IF THERE'S OVER 5,000 ACTIVE CASES AND THERE'S ONLY 331 PEOPLE IN THE HOSPITAL WITH COVID, THAT'S PRETTY LOW PERCENTAGE, RIGHT? YEAH.HARDLY A FLEA ON THE BACK OF A DOG.
AND, AND THAT NUMBER USED TO BE BIGGER BY EYES.
AS I THINK THE SKILLED NURSING FACILITIES HAVE, HAVE BETTER QUALITY CONTROL.
UH, YOUNGER PEOPLE ARE GETTING IT.
WE KNOW THAT THE YOUNGER YOU ARE THE LESS VULNERABLE YOU ARE TO THE DISEASE.
AND SO PROBABLY HOSPITALIZATION IS NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED TO WORRY ABOUT.
UH, BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN WATCHING THIS FOR A WHILE.
AND, UH, IF YOU'RE UNDER, I THINK 30 YEARS OLD, THERE'S ONLY BEEN 12 PEOPLE THAT HAVE DIED FROM COVID TOTAL.
SO THIS SHOWS THE EXACT SAME DATA, BUT I JUST PULLED OUT ONE MONTH'S WORTH.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW THAT RELATES IN THE, OVER THE LAST 30 DAYS, SORT OF THAT GENERAL, THAT, THAT RISE THAT WE'VE EXPERIENCED.
UM, HOW MANY NURSING HOME PATIENTS THIS REPRESENTS? UM, WELL, THIS IS, THIS IS CITY AND COUNTY TUNNEL.
I DO NOT KNOW THAT NUMBER AND I CAN TRY TO FIND OUT THAT NUMBER.
I DON'T KNOW HOW READILY AVAILABLE IT IS.
I DO KNOW OUR NUMBER FOUR OUTBREAKS, AND I'LL SHARE THAT IN A SECOND WITH YOU.
UM, THIS SHOWS ACTUALLY OUR DATA, THIS IS ALCOHOL SPECIFIC INFORMATION, AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, OUR SPIKE IS AS LARGE AS IT WAS DURING THAT MID SUMMER SPIKE.
SO WE ARE EXPERIENCING A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT SPIKE OF COVID CASES IN OUR CITY.
I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF FACTORS.
I'LL SHOW YOU ONE OF THOSE FACTORS, BUT IT COULD BE, OUR RESIDENTS ARE TESTING MORE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF UNKNOWNS THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE ACCESS TO THE DATA THAT TELLS US WHAT WHAT'S REALLY CAUSING THAT SPIKE.
AGAIN, THIS SHOWS JUST THE LAST 30 DAYS, WHAT THAT SPIKE LOOKS LIKE IN THE CITY OF ELKO.
SO WE DO, WE RECEIVE DATA PERIODICALLY ON OUTBREAKS THAT ARE OCCURRING IN THE CITY.
UM, AND SO I'VE INCLUDED, I'VE INCLUDED TWO, TWO, UM, ROWS.
ONE IS THE INFORMATION I PRESENTED AT THE LAST MEETING.
AND THEN THE MOST RECENT DATA WE RECEIVED, WHICH WAS A WEEK AGO, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 10 TOTAL WITH OUTBREAKS THAT HAVE OCCURRED, UM, WITH 91 CASES AND ONE DEATH.
AND THOSE ARE BROKEN DOWN BY SKILLED NURSING FACILITIES, CONGREGATE CARE FACILITIES AND COMMUNITY, JUST GENERAL COMMUNITY.
SO OUR GENERAL COMMUNITY ACTUALLY HAS STAYED THE SAME.
OUR CONGREGATE CARE HAS DROPPED BY ONE.
WE HAD A SCHOOL THAT ACTUALLY HAD A, UM, AN OUTBREAK THAT SCHOOL IS NOW FALLEN OFF.
IT'S NO LONGER CONSIDERED AN OUTBREAK CENTER, BUT WE DO HAVE WITHIN OUR FACILITY, THREE LOCATIONS OF SKILLED NURSING FACILITIES OF THOSE THREE THERE'S 51 CASES OF COVID-19.
SO IF YOU WERE TO GO BACK TO OUR CHART AND TAKE 50, THAT'S A, THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CASES.
AND THAT'S JUST FROM THE LOCATIONS WHERE THERE'S CONSIDERED A QUOTE UNQUOTE OUTBREAK.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TOTAL IS RIGHT NOW.
AND WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK FOR THAT NUMBER FOR COUNCIL, BUT I THINK IT IS PROBABLY AN IMPORTANT NUMBER.
WE KNOW THAT ORIGINALLY, OR INITIALLY DURING THE INITIAL PARTS, WE KNEW IT WAS ABOUT HALF OF OUR TOTAL CASES.
NOW WE KNOW THAT IT'S A LOT LESS, UM, BUT IT IS STILL SIGNIFICANT.
UM, DO YOU, DO YOU KNOW WHY THIS IS HAPPENING OR IS THERE ANY, ANY PLAUSIBLE THEORIES? NO, WE DON'T KNOW IN, UM, THE COUNTY, I DON'T KNOW IF THE COUNTIES DON'T D UM, DOVE INTO THE DATA ABOUT THAT.
UM, BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHAT'S CAUSING THAT.
WELL, THANKS FOR REPORTING IT.
SO, UM, LASTLY, LET ME JUST REMIND THE COUNCIL.
THE STATE HABIT HAS A SAFE REOPENING PLAN.
PURPLE'S THE WORST WE'VE BEEN AT RED.
WHAT ARE THE ONLY COUNTIES IN THE STATE, AT LEAST IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA TO BE IN THE RED.
AND SO JUST RECENTLY, UH, WE ARE NOW PURPLE.
SO WHICH MEANS WE HAVE AS DEFINED BY THE STATE AND WIDESPREAD OUTBREAK.
THAT MEANS THAT IF YOU HAVE, UH, SEVEN CASES PER A HUNDRED THOUSAND OR MORE, UM, AFTER YOU'VE ADJUSTED SOME THINGS, THEN, UH, YOU HAVE YOU'RE IN THAT PURPLE.
WE'VE BEEN IN THAT ACTUALLY FOR TWO WEEKS NOW, WHICH KICKED US INTO THAT REALM.
UM, WE ARE, UM, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT OUR POSITIVITY RATE OF 2.6%, WE'RE FAR BELOW THE, THE WIDESPREAD OR THE WHAT THE COUNT AND THE STATE REFERS IS WIDESPREAD.
SO I THINK WE'RE DOING GOOD IN THAT AREA.
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WE'RE JUST NOT DOING GOOD IN OUR TOTAL NUMBER OF CASES.SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? MOVING INTO PURPLE? UH, OH, THERE'S, THERE'S THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AS OF TODAY, A LOT MORE COUNTIES MOVE INTO PURPLE ALONG WITH THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO.
UM, IT MEANS THAT YOU CAN STILL HAVE INDOOR BUSINESSES SUCH AS HAIR SALONS, PERSONAL CARE, BARBERSHOPS HOTELS, THOSE ARE STILL ALLOWED, UM, ALL OTHER RETAILERS AND INDOOR MALLS UP UNTIL THIS POINT, WHEN WE WERE IN RED, THEY WERE AT A 50% CAPACITY.
THEY'RE NOW REQUIRED TO BE AT A 25% CAPACITY.
SO WALMART AND THE MALL AND, UH, GROCERY STORES SHOULD ONLY BE OPERATING AT A 25% CAPACITY, UH, PLACES LIKE BUSINESSES LIKE RESTAURANTS, GYMS, PLACES OF WORSHIP, MOVIE THEATERS CAN ONLY OPERATE OUTDOORS.
SO AS YOU KNOW, WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE A CHURCH INDOORS AND, AND DINE INDOORS AS WE'RE IN THE POLITICAL REALM.
THOSE CAN NO LONGER TAKE PLACE, UH, PER THE STATE MANDATE, UM, SCHOOLS.
I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME QUESTIONS.
THERE WAS A QUESTION EARLIER ON DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR SCHOOLS? IT MEANS IF A SCHOOL HAS ALREADY OPENED UP, IT IS NOT, IT IS NOT REQUIRED TO TRANSITION BACK TO DISTANCE LEARNING, BUT IF THE SCHOOL IS NOT, IS STILL IN A DISTANCE LEARNING, UM, PHASE, IT CANNOT OPEN UP INTO, INTO IN-PERSON UNTIL WE MOVED BACK INTO RED.
SO OUR SCHOOLS, MOST OF OUR SCHOOLS IN THIS COUNTY, OR IN, IN THE CITY OF ALCOHOL OR PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN PARTICULAR HAVE, UM, OPENED UP TO IN-PERSON INSTRUCTION.
SO THEY WILL NOT CHANGE BASED ON THE TIER CHANGE, AND THEN OFFICES ARE ENCOURAGED OR REQUIRED TO BE, UM, OPERATE REMOTELY WHEN POSSIBLE.
SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF THE IMPACTS OF MOVING INTO THE PURPLE TIER.
IT'S INTERESTING TO NOTE AS OF, UM, UH, NOVEMBER 4TH, THE COUNTY PUTS OUT A, A WEEKLY DOCUMENT CALLED THE FLU WATCH.
WE'VE ONLY HAD 18 REPORTED CASES OF THE FLU.
I THINK PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, SOCIALLY DISTANCING AND WASHING THEIR HANDS.
AND THE SO, UH, INFLUENZA HAS BEEN GOOD SO FAR THIS SEASON, BUT I KNOW WE'RE EARLY INTO THE SEASON.
SO I JUST WANT TO SPEND JUST A MINUTE TALKING ABOUT OUR RECREATION PROGRAMS. I SHARED THIS WITH THE COUNCIL BEFORE I THINK OUR PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN OUR, OUR, OUR STAFF HAS BEEN, UM, UNIQUE AND EXPRESSING LEADERSHIP.
I KNOW A LOT OF REC PROGRAMS AROUND THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, SORT OF A WINNING, I WON'T SAY HIDING, BUT THEY JUST SORT OF SHUT DOWN PROGRAMMING.
AND OUR, OUR REC DEPARTMENT SAID, NO, OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS US.
WE STARTED DOING A LOT OF VIDEO INSTRUCTIONS AND VIDEO CLASSES AND, UM, FIGURING OUT WAYS TO PARTNERSHIP WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO WE CAN STILL BE INVOLVED WITH THE LIVES OF OUR YOUTH IN PARTICULAR.
UM, I'VE BEEN REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THEIR INNOVATIVE APPROACHES, JUST, UH, OVER HALLOWEEN WEEKEND, AS YOU KNOW, TRICK OR TREATING WAS DISCOURAGED.
BUT OUR REC DEPARTMENT, UH, IN A COLLABORATIVE, UM, APPROACH WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HANDED CANDY OUT AT NINE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, JUST, YOU KNOW, WE HANDED OUT 32,000 PIECES OF CANDY TO CARS.
UM, WE HAD VIRTUAL COSTUME CONTEST WINNERS, AND WE HAD CAR DECORATION WINNERS, AND WE HAD PUMPKIN CARVING WINNERS.
UH, AND WE HAD HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE SHOW UP AT OUR CITY HALL COMPLEX AND WATCH A MOVIE OUTDOORS.
SO, UM, IN THEIR CARS, SO PRETTY EXCITING THAT, WELL, A LOT OF PLACES WERE, WERE BUNKERING DOWN AND WE WERE GETTING OUT AND THROUGH A SAFE WAY, ENGAGING WITH OUR COMMUNITY.
I LOVE THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE BETWEEN REC THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF COMMUNITY POLICING AND ENGAGING OUR POLICE POSITIVELY WITH OUR COMMUNITY.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M REALLY PROUD OF OUR STAFF.
I CAN TAKE NO CREDIT FOR THIS.
THIS IS ALL DRIVEN BY THE INNOVATION OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS, UH, NOTHING BY YOUR CITY MANAGEMENT TEAM AT ALL.
THIS IS ALL AMAZING STAFF THAT WE HAVE.
SO WE GET ALL THE CREDIT FOR IT.
SO, UM, STAFF'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE, OR IF THERE'S OTHER INFORMATION YOU'D LIKE INCLUDED.
I DID HEAR MAYBE SOME DATA ABOUT HOW MANY CASES ARE OUT OF NURSING HOMES OR SKILLED NURSING FACILITIES.
WE'LL INCLUDE THAT AT THE NEXT ONE.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR AGAIN, UH, RECEIVE ADDITIONAL THINGS THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO BRING FORWARD.
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RELATE THESE CASES, UH, POSITIVE, UH, TO THE AGE GROUPS.THERE IS, UM, I CAN SHARE THAT AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING TOO.
THERE'S A, IF YOU GO TO THE ACCOUNT, IF YOU JUST GOOGLE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO, COVID-19, THEY HAVE A, AN ENTIRE WEBSITE AND THERE'S, THERE IS A TABLE THAT THEY HAVE THAT BREAKS THE POSITIVE CASES DOWN BY AGE GROUP.
AND YOU CAN SEE, UM, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
AND I THINK IT MAY EVEN BREAK HOSPITALIZATION RATES DOWN BY AGE GROUP AS WELL.
SO THERE IS SOME, SOME GOOD DATA IN THAT I JUST DIDN'T WANT TO NERD OUT TOO MUCH ON DATA.
CAUSE IT'S, THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON.
BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE, UH, THE KIDS, UH, AND YOUNGER PEOPLE UNDER 30 YEARS OLD, UH, THEY SHOULD JUST NOT COUNT THOSE AS COVID CASES THAT ARE GONNA HARM ANYBODY IF THEY JUST TELL THEM TO STAY HOME AND DON'T INTERACT WITH OTHER PEOPLE.
BUT, UM, WELL, MR. MCCLAREN AIN'T BE MOST OF THEM.
AREN'T GOING TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL.
NO, MOST OF THEM DON'T NEED TO.
I MEAN, I'LL, I'LL SHARE THIS WITH YOU.
IT'S OH, A PERSONAL, BUT MY DAUGHTER'S A FRESHMAN IN COLLEGE AND EVERYONE IN HER DORM TESTED POSITIVE FOR COVID-19.
THEY ALL QUARANTINE, EVERYONE WAS ASYMPTOMATIC.
NO ONE, NO ONE FELT ILL AT ALL.
SO THEY GOT THROUGH IT AND NOW THEY'RE FINE.
SO THAT, THAT GENERATION, FOR THE MOST PART, UM, IS PRETTY RESILIENT.
IT'S ALL DIVERSE LIKE ME AND GARY.
[16. Extending COVID-19 Relief Measures RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council considers extending COVID-19 relief measures to businesses and residents.]
IS IT.IF YOU GIVE THE NEXT PRESENTATION? WE, YEP.
SO, UH, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, UM, THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION DURING THE COVID PRESENTATION ABOUT THE NOTION OF, UM, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO HELP BUSINESSES? UH, THERE'S, THERE'S A COUPLE IDEAS THAT WERE SHARED.
AND ONE OF THEM WAS TO MAYBE, UH, REMOVE SOME PARKING ON MAIN STREET AND OPEN THAT UP TO THE BUSINESSES.
UH, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, VINCE DEMASSIO SPENT SOME TIME DOWN THERE AND HE CAN, HE CAN WEIGH IN IF, IF, IF I'M NOT COVERING IT APPROPRIATELY, BUT HE DID A BIT OF A SURVEY AND IDENTIFIED PRETTY MUCH EVERY BUSINESS THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE OUT ON THE SIDEWALK IS EITHER OUT ON THE SIDEWALK OR HAS CHOSEN NOT TO BE OUT ON THE SIDEWALK.
SO I THINK THEY'RE ALREADY UTILIZING FOR PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE COUNCIL NOT CONSIDER SETTING DOWN PARKING IN THE DOWNTOWN RIGHT NOW.
UM, I DON'T THINK THERE'S REALLY A DEMAND FOR IT.
WE HAVE, WE'VE MADE THAT OFFER TO THE, TO THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS PARTNERSHIPS.
SO THEY KNOW THAT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEING DEMANDED BY THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, STAFF IS CERTAINLY OPEN TO IT, BUT THERE IS AN EXPENSE TO DO IT SAFELY.
AND WE JUST DON'T KNOW IF THE JUICE IS WORTH THE SQUEEZE, UM, TO DO SOMETHING DOWN THERE.
THE OTHER THING THAT, THAT I WANTED TO BRING FORWARD AND I'M SEEKING COUNSEL, UM, DIRECTION ON THIS, AND THIS WOULD, THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF IS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE PANDEMIC.
UM, THE COUNCIL TOOK SOME BOLD MOVES TO CREATE SOME RELIEF MEASURES FOR NOT ONLY RESIDENCES, BUT FOR BUSINESSES, UH, UH, THE COUNCIL RELAXED, UM, UH, UNPAID SEWER BALANCE, UH, LATE FEES, YOU WAY BUSINESS LICENSE, LATE FEES.
UH, YOU ALLOW BUSINESSES TO OPERATE A LITTLE MORE FREELY IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY WITH, WITH A NO FEE TEMPORARY USE PERMIT, YOU ALLOW OUR PARKS TO BE UTILIZED BY BUSINESSES WITHOUT A FEE.
UM, AND, UH, YOU, I THINK THOSE ARE THE BIG THINGS THAT YOU DID.
IT'S CLEAR THAT THIS PANDEMIC IS NOT GOING TO GO AWAY BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE COUNCIL CONSIDER EXTENDING THESE COVID RELIEF MEASURES AT LEAST TO THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2021.
AND THEY WOULD CONTINUE TO BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL.
IF WE SEE THERE'S A NEED TO CONTINUE TO RECOMMEND THAT, BUT LOOKING FOR COUNCIL DIRECTION ON THAT, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER REST OF THE COUNCIL, BUT I WOULD SAY EXTENDED THROUGH TWO QUARTERS BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY THIS IS ANY BEFORE SUMMER.
AND THEY, THEY WON'T HAVE THE VACCINE, UH, PROBABLY APRIL BLANKETED BEFORE THAT.
THEY, THEY SAY THAT THE VACCINE WILL BE AVAILABLE TO FIRST RESPONDERS, HOSPITAL WORKERS ALMOST RIGHT AWAY.
AND THEN, SO THE MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC BY APRIL.
I THINK WHATEVER WE WERE DOING, LET'S CONTINUE DOING IT.
AND, UM, LET'S KEEP OUR EAR TO THE GROUND TO, TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER JURISDICTIONS
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AROUND US DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT.THAT'S HELPING OUT BUSINESSES.
ARE YOU COMFORTABLE, STEADY AT TWO QUARTERS OR DO YOU WANT TO STICK WITH, WELL, I THINK TWO QUARTERS IS FINE AND YOU CAN ALWAYS CHANGE YOUR MIND.
IF THINGS ARE STARTING TO CLEAR UP, WE GAVE HER BACK TO ASKING, HEY, LET'S, LET'S GO BACK.
I'LL SECOND THAT, UM, SO BEFORE WE GO TO THE MOTION, THANK YOU.
I THINK, I THINK YOU ALREADY ANSWERED THE QUESTION, BUT MISS BELGIUM, SANTIAGO ASKED WHAT RELIEF MEASURES INCLUDE FOR THE CITY OF ALCOHOLISM QUESTION MARK AND FOR HOW LONG? I THINK GRAHAM DID A GOOD JOB OF EXPLAINING THAT.
SO, UH, CAN, I'M SORRY, CAN YOU PLEASE REPEAT THE MOTION THE SECOND CARRIE, YOU MADE THE MOTION.
THEN I'LL, I'LL, I'LL RE UH, UH, I'LL, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE EXTEND, UM, THE PROGRAM OUT TO THE FIRST TWO QUARTERS OF NEXT YEAR.
MAYOR WELLS, YOUR VOTE PLEASE? YES.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
THERE ARE NO COMMISSIONER REPORTS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
ITEM 17 IS MY ACTIVITIES REPORT IS AS REPORTED WE'RE
[18. COUNCILMEMBER GARY KENDRICK METRO Commission/Wastewater JPA; Heartland Communications; Heartland Fire Training JPA.; East County Advanced Purification JPA.]
AT ACTIVITIES REPORTS FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCIL MEMBER, KENDRICK AS REPORTED[19. COUNCILMEMBER BOB MCCLELLAN MTS (Metropolitan Transit System Board); Harry Griffen Park Joint Steering Committee; Heartland Communications – Alternate]
COUNCIL MEMBER MCCOLLUM.[21. DEPUTY MAYOR PHIL ORTIZ East County Economic Development Council.]
COUNCIL MEMBER, DEPUTY MAYOR PHIL ORTIZ AS REPORTED.WE WANT TO HEAR, BUT MY PAPER STUCK.
[19. JOINT COUNCILMEMBER REPORTS:]
WE HAVE A JOINT COUNCIL REPORT ON TODAY'S AGENDA.AND, UM, THIS WAS A REPORT BROUGHT TO US BY MYSELF AND, AND, UH, MR. ORTIZ AND, UH, MR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR.
SO, UM, THIS WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, UM, BY A COUNCIL MEMBER FROM THE CITY OF TORRANCE, UH, TO VOLUNTEER MOVEMENT OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, UM, WANTING TO CREATE SOME KIND OF A RESOLUTION, UM, TO ADVOCATE FOR LOCAL CONTROL FOR MORE LOCAL CONTROL, UM, AGAINST EITHER THE STATE LEGISLATURE OR THE GOVERNOR.
UM, IT'S CENTERED AROUND, UM, LAND USE SPECIFICALLY SOME OF THE, UM, SOME OF THE BILLS THAT WERE CIRCULATING THROUGH THE STATE LEGISLATURE.
AND I KNOW, UH, OUR, UH, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND SOMALIA WAS WATCHING SOME OF THOSE.
AND, UM, IT, IT, IT'S DEFINITELY A THREAT TO, UM, OUR LOCAL LAND USE JURISDICTION.
AND I THINK IT'S TIMELY THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST THE STATE IS, IS, UH, OVERUSING THEIR AUTHORITY, I WOULD SAY ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT LEVELS.
UM, ONE OF OUR STATE LEGISLATURES ACTUALLY WENT TO COURT AGAINST OUR GOVERNOR, UM, REGARDING THE COVID, UH, SHUTDOWN ORDERS.
UM, WE'RE GOING BACK INTO THE PURPLE.
UM, SO, UM, I THINK RIGHT NOW THERE'S ABOUT 24 CITIES THAT HAVE ADOPTED A RESOLUTION, UM, ADVOCATING FOR MORE LOCAL CONTROL.
UM, AND I THINK IT JUST MAKES SENSE A ONE SIZE FITS ALL, UH, APPROACH TO GOVERNING.
DOES IT MAKE SENSE? WE HAVE SOME OF THE LARGEST CITIES IN THE WORLD IN CALIFORNIA, AND THEN WE HAVE SOME OF THE SMALLEST TOWNS IN THE WORLD IN A RURAL CALIFORNIA.
UM, SO, UH, I WOULD LIKE OUR, OUR STAFF TO, UH, TO, UH, TO COME UP WITH A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF THE, CAUSE OUR FRIENDS IN POWAY, JUST NORTH OF US, UH, PASSED A SIMILAR RESOLUTION LAST WEEK.
UM, I, I KNOW SANTI IS LOOKING TO DO THE SAME THING AS WELL AND REALLY LAY THE FOUNDATION, UM, FOR THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH OTHER CITIES THAT, THAT SHARE THE SAME, UH, SAME, I THINK, GOOD, UH, GOOD GOVERNMENT, UH, MANTRA.
AND, UH, AND I, I KNOW WHAT MY, UH, MADEWELL'S, UH, SHARES THE SAME SENTIMENTS.
I LIKE TO HEAR WHAT, UH, YOU HAVE THE COUNCILMAN THING.
I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT ON THE SPOT THERE.
AND WE, WE NEED TO HAVE LESS STATE OVERDRAFT OR OVER REGULATION AND, UM, BE ABLE TO MAKE OUR OWN DECISIONS BASED UPON THE FACTS LIKE THIS COVID THING.
WE REALLY DON'T HAVE THAT MANY PEOPLE IN ALCOHOL THAT HAD COPD THAT MAYBE DIDN'T NEED TO GO TO THE, UH, OH, OPENS,
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JUST STAYED IN THE RED, PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER.MY BIGGEST CONCERN, SOME OF THE SENTIMENTS ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND, UH, THE IT'S GOING IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER IS GOING TO BE, IF YOU WANT AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT, YOU CAN BYPASS THE CITY, GO RIGHT TO THE STATE.
I GET YOUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PERMIT WITH LITTLE OR NO DESIGN STANDARDS, HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS, PARKING, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO BE IN CONTROL OF.
AND, UM, THEY'LL BYPASS US SO THAT THEY CAN GET WHAT THEY WANT.
IT REALLY SIGNIFICANT, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, FOR PLACES LIKE DEL MAR AND ITS ANITAS WHO REALLY DON'T WANT ANY DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO, UH, ANYWAY, I, I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE AT LEAST, UH, GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF, OF MAKING OUR VOICE HEARD.
AND THIS IS LARGELY SYMBOLIC, BUT I THINK IT LAYS THE FOUNDATION FOR MAYBE SOME ACTION IN THE FUTURE ONCE THE IS BUILT.
SO I I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE A SOLUTION.
SECOND MAYOR WELLS, YOUR VOTE, PLEASE.
YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T ASK IF WE HAD ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS.
COUNCIL MEMBER, KENDRICK, COUNCILMAN KENDRICK.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
TO FILL OTHER INFORMATION TODAY'S AGENDA.
THERE ARE NO FIRST OR SECOND READINGS AND NO CLOSED SESSION.
AND THIS BRINGS US TO THE GERMAN OF THE REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE ALCON CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE ALCOHOL REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY HELD THIS 10TH DAY ON NOVEMBER, 2020.
WE ARE ADJOURNED UNTIL TUESDAY, DECEMBER 8TH, 2020 AT 3:00 PM.
THANKS EVERY MONTH, EVERYBODY FOR A GOOD MEETING, ESPECIALLY STAFF, OBVIOUSLY YOU GUYS WORKED REALLY HARD THIS WEEK, SO THANKS VERY MUCH AND PASS IT ON EVERYBODY ELSE WHO WORKED ON IT.
SO YOU GUYS IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.