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[ CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Bill Wells]
HELLO BUDDY.WELCOME TO THE OAKLAND CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
WE CONTINUE HOLDING REMOTE MEETINGS WHILE THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDERS CONTINUES TO BE IN EFFECT DUE TO THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC.
I'D LIKE TO REMIND OUR CITIZENS THAT THEY CAN SUBMIT QUESTIONS FOR ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
AS WE DID IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING, PUBLIC COMMENTS MAY ALSO BE SUBMITTED THIS TIME AND THEY WILL BE READ AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.
DURING THE MEETING, COMMENTS WILL BE ACCEPTED UP TO THE CONCLUSION OF THE VOTE OF THE ITEM.
COMMENTS MAY BE SUBMITTED THROUGH THE CITY OF ALCOHOL'S WEBSITE, UNDER AGENDAS AND MINUTES, GO TO VIDEO STREAMING AND YOU WILL SEE A BUTTON TO SUBMIT YOUR COMMENTS.
THIS MEETING IS NOW CALLED ORDER, AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK OUR CITY CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL CALL.
IF YOU CAN PLEASE STATE THAT YOU ARE PRESENT MAYOR WELLS HERE, DEPUTY MAYOR OR TASTES I'M HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER GLOBAL COUNCIL MEMBER KENDRICK.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN HARRISON.
OH, I THINK EVERYBODY CAN SEE A AMERICAN FLYING ON THEIR SCREEN.
AND SO WOULD YOU PLEASE SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WITH ME? AND THEN AFTER THAT, I'LL TAKE A BRIEF MOMENT OF SILENCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[ POSTINGS: The City Clerk posted Orders of Adjournment of the July 28, 2020, Meeting and the Agenda of the August 11, 2020, Meeting in accordance to State Law and Council/Authority/Successor Agency to the Redevelopment Agency Policy.]
THE CITY CLERK POSTED ORDERS OF A GERMAN OF THE JULY 28TH, 2020 MEETING AND THE AGENDA OF THE AUGUST 11TH, 2020 MEETING IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW COUNSELING COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY POLICY.WE HAVE NO PRESENTATIONS ON TODAY'S AGENDA
[ AGENDA CHANGES:]
AND STAFF.DO YOU HAVE ANY AGENDA CHANGES, MR. MAYOR? WE DO HAVE ONE AGENDA CHANGE.
UM, ON YOUR CONSENT CALENDAR, THERE'S AN AGENDA ITEM ENTITLED AGENDA ITEM 13 REQUEST FOR PERMISSION OF COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN TO BE ABSENT FROM REGULAR COUNCIL MEETINGS.
I THINK GIVEN THE FACT THAT MR MCCALLEN'S HERE, THE AGENDA ITEM IS MOOT.
WE WOULD RECOMMEND YOU REMOVE THAT FROM THE, UM, DELETE THAT FROM THE AGENDA TODAY THAT REMOVE IT WITH PREJUDICE.
WE'RE SO GLAD YOU'RE DOING WELL.
[7. CONSENT ITEMS: Consent Items are routine matters enacted by one motion according to the RECOMMENDATION listed below. With the concurrence of the City Council, a Council Member or person in attendance may request discussion of a Consent Item at this time.]
OKAY.THAT BRINGS US TO CONSIDER ITEMS. CONSENT ITEMS ARE ROUTINE MATTERS AND ACTED BY ONE MOTION.
ACCORDING TO THE RECOMMENDATION LISTED BELOW WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OR COUNCIL MEMBER OR PERSON IN THE TENANTS MAY REQUEST DISCUSSION OF A CONSENT ITEM AT THIS TIME, COUNSEL MEMBERS, YOU WISH TO POINT HE CAN SET ITEMS. UH, I DO.
REMIND ME WHEN WE GET TO THAT STEP.
YOU WISH TO FULLY CONSENT ITEMS. NO, SIR.
ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FOR CONSENT ITEMS, SIR? WE HAVE NO COMMENTS FOR CONSENT ITEMS. OKAY.
I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THEN TO APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS. SECOND, DID YOU WANT TO WAIT UNTIL YOU'VE HEARD ITEM SIX? THAT WAS POPE? UH, YEAH.
YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
[6. Contract Extension for Custodial Services RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council adopts the next Resolution, in order, to extend the current Agreement for Custodial Services with NMS Management, Inc., for three months in the not-to-exceed amount of $110,671.96.]
LET'S LET'S DO ITEM SIX AND THEN, UH, WE'LL COME BACK TO IT.I THINK MOST WOULD HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT A THREE MONTH CUSTODIAL CONTRACT FOR $110,000.
AND I THINK CITY STAFF IS JUST ASKING FOR AN EXTENSION BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE COST OF THAT CONTRACT IN TOTAL.
AND WHETHER IT'S A VALUE TO THE TAXPAYERS, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND WE'RE LOOKING TO REBID IT.
AND SO, UM, WE'RE HOPING TO USE THAT TO HELP LOWER OR AT LEAST MAINTAIN OUR COSTS.
AND DEPENDING ON SOME LATER AGENDA ITEMS, UM, THERE'S A BUILDING THAT MAY BE REMOVED OUT OF THAT CONTRACT.
SO THAT CONTRACT MAY CHANGE DRAMATICALLY TOO.
ISN'T THAT FOR THE DOWNWARD SIDE? ON THE DOWNWARD SIDE? CORRECT.
BUT I'M OKAY WITH ALL OF THAT.
AND I'M A SECOND, THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR, IF THAT HASN'T BEEN DONE ALREADY.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
[ PUBLIC COMMENT: At this time, any person may address a matter within the jurisdiction of the City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the El Cajon Redevelopment Agency that is not on the Agenda. Comments relating to items on today’s docket are to be taken at the time the item is heard. State law prohibits discussion or action on items not on the Agenda; however, Council, Authority and Agency Members may briefly respond to statements or questions. An item may be placed on a future Agenda.]
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AT THIS TIME.ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS A MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL, HOUSING AUTHORITY OR SUCCESS OR THE
THE ITEM IS HEARD STATE LAW PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ITEMS, NOT ON THE AGENDA.
HOWEVER, CITY COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND TO STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS.
AN ITEM OF COURSE MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? WE HAVE NO COMMENTS FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, SIR.
I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IF YOU'RE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING YOUR COMMENTS IN BECAUSE OF SEVERAL REASONS, IT NEEDS MORE TIME.
JUST GO AHEAD AND PUT YOUR COMMENTS IN NOW.
AND WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND REVISIT THIS.
IF COMMENTS COME IN, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.
[14. Public Hearing to Consider the Vacation of a Walkway Easement between Mona Place and Benjamin Place RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council: Re-opens the Public Hearing and receives testimony; Closes the Public Hearing; and Approves the postponement of the vacation of a walkway easement for a period of one year between Mona Place and Benjamin Place, established by City Council Resolution No. 7724 and recorded on May 23, 1966, Map No. 5738.]
ALL RIGHT.THAT BRINGS US TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
WE'RE NOW AT PUBLIC HEARINGS, WE HAVE THREE ITEMS TO CONSIDER.
ITEM 14 IS REGARDING THE VACATION OF THE WALKWAY EASEMENT BETWEEN MOTOR PLACE AND BEDROOM, A PLACE AND STAFF.
WOULD YOU PLEASE TELL US
UM, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
UM, THIS IS A SECOND, UH, ACTUALLY A CONTINUATION OF A PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE HAD ON JUNE 22ND OR JUNE 23RD OF THIS YEAR.
AND, UH, ESSENTIALLY I WANT TO GO BACK AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE BRIEF BACKER ON AGAIN, ON THE, ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM.
I'M GOING TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UM, THIS IS, UH, THE MANA PLACE AND BENJAMIN PLACE ARE TWO PARALLEL STREETS THAT JOIN INTO, UH, AS, AS YOU KNOW, CHASE AVENUE.
AND, UH, THIS WALKWAY EASEMENT, UH, HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR THE LAST, SINCE THE SIXTIES.
AND IT'S ROUGHLY 150 FEET LONG AND IT TRAVERSES, UH, OVER TWO PRIVATE PROPERTIES, UH, BEING SEVEN 1185 BENJAMIN PLACE AND 1194, UH, MONA PLACE, UH, SINCE THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING, THE ADJUSTED, THE ADJACENT RESIDENTS MET WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THE EASEMENT AND OFFERED TO HELP TO MAINTAIN THESE MEN POST SIGNS AND BE RESPECTFUL AND NOISE SUBSEQUENTLY BOTH OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY CONTAINING THE EASEMENT, RECOGNIZE THE GOOD INTENTIONS OF THE ADJACENT RESIDENTS THAT WANT TO HELP, BUT THEY'RE HOLDING FIRM TO CONTINUE THE PROCESS TO CLOSE THE EASEMENT.
I'M GOING TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE TO SHOW SOME PHOTOS, BUT JUST FOR REFERENCE PURPOSES, THERE'S A MOANA PLACE AND BENJAMIN PLACE.
AND SO THE, THE EASEMENT IS A HUNDRED, 150 FEET LONG, OR A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN 150 FEET LONG, AND IT'S ABOUT FOUR FOOT WIDE AND IT'S A SIDEWALK GOING OVER THE TWO PRIVATE PROPERTIES AND HERE'S SOME PHOTOS JUST FOR REFERENCE PURPOSES ALL THE WAY.
AND PREPARE IN PREPARATION OF TODAY'S HEARING, WE PUBLICLY NOTIFIED APPROXIMATELY 38 HOUSEHOLDS WITHIN THE 300 FOOT RADIUS OF TODAY'S HEARING PER COVENANT, PER GOVERNMENT CODE REGULATIONS.
SO WE ALSO, UH, REQUESTED FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
THERE WAS ANY COMPLAINT CALLS WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
AND, UH, THEY MENTIONED THAT THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY SUBSEQUENTLY AFTER THAT PROCESS, WHEN WE NOTIFIED ALL THE RESIDENTS, WE RECEIVED A PETITION FROM THE RESIDENTS WHO WERE IN FAVOR OF KEEPING THE EASEMENT OPEN AND RECEIVE REBUTTAL LETTERS AND EMAILS FOR THE RESIDENT WHO HAS REQUESTED THE CLOSURE OF THE EASEMENT OF HONOR PROPERTY BASED ON WRITTEN AND VERBAL TESTIMONY THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM BOTH SIDES.
WE RECOMMEND PROPOSING THIS REQUEST FOR A PERIOD OF ONE YEAR.
THIS WILL PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ALL PARTIES INVOLVED TO PRESENT ANY NEW FINDINGS IN ONE YEAR'S TIME.
SO WITH THAT, I CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.
I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS? NO, BUT THEN, THEN, UH, REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND ANGELA, IS THERE ANY, UH, TESTIMONY THAT, UH, PUBLIC WANTS TO MAKE? UH, SIR, AND THE PUBLIC HEARING CONTINUES TO BE OPENED FROM THE JUNE 23RD MEETING.
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THE WEBSITE.I RECEIVED A PETITION WITH 35 PEOPLE WHO SIGNED THE OPPOSING THE VACATION OF THE MINT.
AND WE ALSO RECEIVED A LETTER AND A PACKET THAT WAS, UH, EMAILED TO COUNTY MAYOR AND COUNCIL FROM THE OWNER, MARGARET, JUST SUE.
SO I WILL START WITH A COMMENTS WITH YOUR PERMISSION.
AND THE FIRST COMMENT IS FROM DARRYL FERNANDEZ AND IT READS THROUGH CITY COUNCIL, PLEASE VACATE THIS EASTMAN.
I'M THE ORIGINAL HOMEOWNER AT 12TH, 10 MONA PLACE WHO HAS LIVED HERE FOR 53 YEARS AND SHARE THE SAME SENTIMENTS OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS CONCERNING VACATING THIS WALKWAY FOR THESE REASONS, ONE, THE PROPERTY OWNERS SHOULD HAVE CONTROL OVER WHO ENTERS FOR USES THEIR PROPERTY TO PRIVACY SECURITY.
NONE IT'S ONLY 9.5 FEET FROM MY BEDROOM WINDOW TO THE EASTMAN.
PEOPLE WALKING THROUGH CAN SEE DIRECTLY INTO MY PROPERTY ON CORNERS, BEDROOM, AND PEER INTO OUR BACKYARD.
VACATING, THE EASTMAN WOULD PROVIDE PRIVACY AND SECURITY MAINTENANCE.
IN THE 53 YEARS, I'VE LIVED HERE, ONLY THE PROPERTY OWNERS LIVING ON EITHER SIDE OF THE EASTMAN HAVE HORIZON MAINTENANCE USERS LEAVE TRASH AND DOG FECES.
AND THE EASTMAN THAT WE HAVE TO CLEAN UP LIABILITY SIDEWALK IS THE EASTMAN IN THE EASTMAN HAS RAISED STEPS, CREATING A TRIP HAZARD AND FINANCIAL LIABILITY FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS PROPERTY TAX.
THE PROPERTY OWNERS PAGE PAY EACH YEAR INCLUDES THE EASEMENT, WHICH IS TOTALLY WRONG.
THE EASTER, I'M SORRY THAT YOU SPENT USERS PAY NO TAXES AND NOT LIABLE FOR ANY INJURY, NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY SECURITY OR MAINTENANCE.
I ASK EACH COUNCIL MEMBER, WOULD YOU WANT THIS EASTMAN THROUGH YOUR PROPERTY RESPECTFULLY GERALD FERNANDEZ AT 12, 10 MONA PLACE.
NEXT IT IS, UH, FROM MARGARET, JUST SUE.
AND AGAIN, I, WE RECEIVED A SEPARATE LETTER FROM HER, BUT I'LL READ HER COMMENT.
UM, I BEGAN THIS PROCESS 31, 2019 ON EIGHT 10, I HAND DELIVERED A COMPLETE PACKET FOR THE RECORD TO THE CITY THAT SUBSTANTIATES MY DATA.
THE INITIAL RECOMMENDATION OF THE COUNCIL WAS TO CLOSE THE EASTMAN AS STATED CITY STAFF EVALUATED.
THEY ABANDONED AND WHEN REQUESTS AND DETERMINED THAT THE WALKWAY EAST MUNIS NO LONGER NECESSARY FOR ITS INTENDED PURPOSE AND THAT KEEPING THIS ACCESS OPEN DOES NOT BEST SERVE THE PUBLIC INTERESTS AND THE IMMEDIATE AREA.
I BELIEVE I WILL PROVE BY THE DATA PRESENTED THAT THIS EASTMAN SERVES A VERY FEW NUMBER OF RESIDENTS FOR THE REASONS THEY STATED LACK OF SAFETY ON CHASE AVENUE AND REMAINS A LIABILITY TO ME, THOSE UTILIZING THE EASTMAN ARE NOT ENTITLED TO MY PROPERTY.
THEY HAVE NO LIABILITY AND NO COST ASSOCIATED.
THERE IS NO RATIONAL REASON FOR THIS EAST MYTH IS A SAFER WHEN THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE USING IT DO NOT RETURN BACK THROUGH, HENCE USING CHASE ACCORDING TO THE COUNTY ASSESSOR'S OFFICE, THE EASTMAN IS NOT SHOWN AS PUBLIC WALKWAY AND IS CONSIDERED PRIVATE PROPERTY.
ACCORDING TO MY TITLE, THERE IS NO MENTION OF THIS WALKWAY EAST MINT, AS NOTED FROM MY DATA, THE NUMBER OF RESIDENTS UTILIZING THIS EASTMAN IS VERY LOW.
MY CONCERN CENTERS ON LIABILITY AS NOTED IN THE DATA.
THERE ARE VERY FEW RESIDENTS WHO UTILIZE THIS AREA ON A DAILY BASIS.
THE RESIDENTS I'M BENJAMIN RARELY AS NOTED COME BACK THROUGH THIS INFORMATION SHOWS THAT THEY ARE USING CHASE TO LEAVE OR TO RETURN TO BENJAMIN 20 EVENTS.
28 EVENTS OCCUR AT NIGHT BETWEEN 8:25 PM AND 11:57 PM, NO LIGHTING AND NO CLEAR VISIBILITY ON EITHER STREET UNTIL END OF WALKWAY.
NUMBER OF TIMES, RESIDENTS ACCESSING ON A REGULAR BASIS.
UM, HOWARD SLASH LYNN STARTED 48 TIMES.
BENJAMIN PLAYS WANNA PLAY, UM, WANT TO PLACE MIKE POLE SLASH DANA.
FINESSEY NINE TIMES LADY LEWIS AND MONA LONG HAIR, SEVEN TIMES KATHLYN CASTILLO FOUR TIMES.
AND THAT'S THE END OF HER COMMENT.
THE NEXT COMMENT, UH, COMES FROM, UH, SEWER, VALERIE, WHY WASHINGTON WAS, AND SHE WRITES THE ARE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THEY PURCHASED THE HOME LIST ABOVE AND OCTOBER, 2019.
WE LIVE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THE EASTMAN.
IN QUESTION, WE ARE REQUESTING THAT THE EASTMAN REMAIN, WE HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH ANYONE WHO HAS COME THROUGH THE EASTMAN.
THERE HAVE BEEN NO PROBLEMS WITH LOITERING TRASH OR LOUD NOISE OR PARTIES HAS DESCRIBING OTHER COMMUNICATION SHARE WITH HIS BODY.
IN THE TIME WE HAVE LIVED HERE, WE CHECKED WITH THE FORMER OWNERS OF THIS HOME.
WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION, THIS WAS A CONCERN AND THEY VOICED NO CONCERNS EITHER.
WE USE THE EASEMENT BLOCK FOR HEALTH REASONS AND FIND THAT IT IS MUCH SAFER THAN WALKING ON CHASE AVENUE, WHERE
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A FATAL ACCIDENT TOOK PLACE ON THE CORNER OF CHASE AND BENJAMIN JUST A COUPLE MONTHS BACK, CARS DRIVE INCREDIBLY FAST ON CHASE AT ALL HOURS.WE ARE AWARE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIRECTLY ACROSS THE NEIGHBOR PART AND DIRECTLY ACROSS THE EASTMAN HAS COMPLAINTS THAT WE HAVE NO COMPLAINTS.
IN FACT, WE HAVE CLEANED UP WEEDS, CUTAWAY, GRASS, BUSHES, AND SPILLED FRUIT FROM THE TREES ON THAT LOT THAT HAVE SPILLED OVER THE SIDEWALK AND AGAINST OUR FENCE, WE ARE AWARE THAT SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS ON BENJAMIN PLACE HAVE CUT GRASS AND CLEANED UP WEEDS AS WELL.
PART OF OUR CONCERN IS THAT THERE WILL BE NO CONSISTENT CLEANUP AND OR MONITORING OF THIS AREA.
THAT DIRECTLY SITS NEXT TO OUR LOT.
IF THE EASEMENT IS CLOSED OFF, WE ARE ALSO CONCERNED THAT THERE WILL BE MORE AUTOS PARKING ON WHAT SHOULD BE LAWN, BUT CURRENTLY HAS BOTH A TRUCK AND A VAN THAT PARKED THERE INSTEAD IN THE ACTUAL DRIVEWAY, BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO OTHER VEHICLES ARE IN THEIR DRIVEWAY.
WHILE THE OWNER IN QUESTION HAS STATED, HE WILL KEEP THEM MAINTENANCE, BUT TWO NOR PUT MORE VEHICLES IN THE FRONT YARD BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE SEEN SO FAR, WE DON'T HAVE MUCH FAITH IN THAT.
PLEASE CONSIDER KEEPING THE EASTMAN OPEN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
THE NEXT COMMENT IS FROM EDITH WASHINGTON WOODS AND SHE WRITES DEAR MEMBERS OF OKLAHOMA CITY COUNCIL.
FIRST, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE GREAT WORK YOU DO FOR OUR CITY.
I AM A PASTOR AT A SAN DIEGO CHURCH AND HAPPY WE PURCHASED A HOME HERE AND OCTOBER, 2019, OUR PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO THE EASTMAN LOCATED ON THE SITE MAP TO THE, TO BE REFERENCED FOR THE HEARING ON AUGUST 11TH.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE EASTMAN BEING USED FOR WALKING BETWEEN BOTH STREET STREETS AND EASE OF NOT WALKING TO CHASE, WHICH HAS A VERY BUSY, I SENT A LETTER LAST MONTH BEFORE THE MEETING, SOMEHOW IT WASN'T READ THUSLY.
THE THINGS STATED IN THE INITIAL LETTER BY TWO OF THE FOUR PROPERTIES ADJACENT TO THE EASTMAN STATES, THINGS ARE HAPPENING, WHICH WE HAVE NOT SEEN NOR HEARD OUR BEDROOM ON THE MAIN FLOOR.
IT'S NEXT TO THE EASTMAN, THE STREET AS WELL, THAT AT NIGHT AT NIGHT AND QUIET ON THE BACKGROUND PREP PROVIDED FOR THE AUGUST 11 MEETING.
IT STATES THAT THE HOMEOWNERS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE EASTMAN'S WERE CONTACTED ON JUNE 29, 2020, WHEN A SITE VISIT TOOK PLACE OR THE RECORD, NO ONE AT 1193, BENJAMIN WAS CONTACTED FOR THE DISCUSSION NOR WAS OUR BELL RUNG THAT DAY WHEN SOMEONE IS ALWAYS HOME TO, TO STAY AT HOME ORDERS, THAT EASTMAN IS BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY AT 1185, BENJAMIN THE PICTURE SUBMITTED OF THE EASTMAN INCLUDE A WHITE VINYL FENCING, THE TREES HANGING OVER THE FENCE AND THE LEAVES AT THE BOTTOM OF THE FENCE ARE FROM 1185.
WE ARE CONCERNED IF THE EASEMENT IS VACATED.
IF THE OWNER AT 1185 WILL PLACE THEIR FENCE AGAINST OUR FENCE, WE ARE CONCERNED.
THEY MIGHT ALLOW WEEDS, LEAVES AND TREES TO OVERGROW AS THEY WERE BEFORE OUR OTHER NEIGHBORS CORRUPT VOLUNTEER TO CLEAN IT UP, UH, AT 1185 SIDE, FURTHERMORE, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A COMPASSIONATE RESOLUTION TO THE REQUEST, WHICH HONORS ALL OF THE NEIGHBORS INVOLVED, NOT JUST A COUPLE.
WE ALL WANT TO LIVE IN HARMONY TOGETHER.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO MY COMMENTS.
UM, WE HAVE ABOUT FOUR MORE COMMENTS AND THE NEXT ONE IS FROM, UH, ROCKY RUN HELL AND HE WRITES, I AM SUPPORT OF WHATEVER IS THE JUST DECISION REGARDING THE WALKWAY ON BENJAMIN PLACE.
IF THE LAND OWNER RETAINING HIS PROPERTY ON BENJAMIN PLACE IN ALCOHOL AS LAWFUL, THEN HE HAS MY SUPPORT.
NEXT COMMENT FROM HOWARD AND LYNN STARK.
UM, THEY WRITE, WE OPPOSE THE VACATION SLASH ABANDONMENT OF THE EASTMAN 35 RESIDENTS OF OUR DEVELOPMENT ON BENJAMIN PLACE AND MONA PLACE SIGNED A PETITION DATED AUGUST ONE, 2020, STATING THAT WE DO NOT WANT IT CLOSE.
THIS EASEMENT DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR VACATION SLASH ABANDONMENT.
IT WAS DEDICATED TO THE PUBLIC RECORDED AND GIVEN TO THE CITY OF EL CAHONE, IT DOES NOT BELONG TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.
IT HAS BEEN USED CONTINUOUSLY SINCE IT WAS BUILT IN 1966 FOR ITS ORIGINAL INTENDED PURPOSE.
IT HAS A SIDEWALK AND IS MAINTAINED.
IT HAS BEEN A UTILITY EASEMENT.
WE WALKED THROUGH THE EASTMAN DAILY FOR EXERCISE AND TO WALK MY DOGS AS SO MANY HAVE OPPOSED TO CLOSURE.
WE REQUEST THIS ITEM, NOT BE POSTPONED AT THE VACATION AND THE VACATION REQUEST BE DENIED.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE CDC ALSO RECOMMENDS COMMUNITIES BE MORE WALKABLE TO INCREASE PHYSICAL ACTIVITY AND IMPROVE OVERALL HEALTH AND QUALITY OF LIFE.
AND IT SAYS, SEE CDC, GOV PHYSICAL ACTIVITY INDEX.
THANK YOU, HOWARD AND LYNN STARK FOR MORE COMMENTS, SIR.
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ONE IS FROM JEANETTE MALANGA WHILE GATHERING SIGNATURES WITH THE STARKS.WE HEARD MANY FOND MEMORIES OF RESIDENT FAMILIES USING THE EASTMAN FOR HEART CONDITIONS, BLOWING LAWNS, WALKING DOGS, AND FORMING FRIENDSHIPS BETWEEN MONA AND BENJAMIN RESIDENTS THAT EXISTS TO THIS DAY.
GREAT GRANDCHILDREN OF ORIGINAL OWNERS CURRENTLY USE THE EASTMAN CLOSING THE EASTMAN FORCES US TO USE CHASE WHERE THERE IS ONLY NINE FEET BETWEEN A CAR AND A PERSON WITH CAR SPEEDING AT 40 TO 50 MILES PER HOUR.
A MAN AND A DOG WERE KILLED IN FRONT OF OUR STREET ON CHASE.
MY GRANDCHILD, I ASK THAT YOU MAKE A DECISION TODAY TO PERMANENTLY KEEP THE EASTMAN OPEN THE HASS AND IS STILL USED AS INTENDED BY THE PEOPLE THAT DEDICATED IT TO US ON MAY 16TH, 1966.
THE LAST COMMON RECEIVED FROM THE WEBSITE, UNLESS WE HAVE ONE MORE, YOU CAN BEAR WITH ME PLEASE.
UM, THE NEXT COMMENT IS FROM RON.
ANYONE CAN COME THROUGH BENJAMIN AND COMMIT A CRIME ON MOANA AND GO BACK THROUGH BENJAMIN AND LEAVE.
WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THE CLOSURE OF THIS EASEMENT.
WE HAVE LIVED HERE 53 YEARS AND OUR CONCERN FOR OUR NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA, ESPECIALLY 1194, MONA.
AND AS I MENTIONED, SIR, WE RECEIVED A PETITION.
AND IF WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I'LL READ IT.
UM, I CAN READ THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE WHO SIGNED IT IF YOU WISH TO, BUT I'LL START WITH A LETTER.
UM, AND AGAIN, 35 NEIGHBORS SIGN THIS PETITION.
IT SAYS WE, THE UNDERSIGNED OPPOSE VACATION SLASH ABANDONMENT SLASH CLOSURE OF THE FOREFOOT WALKWAY EASTMAN BETWEEN MOANA PLACE AND BENJAMIN PLACE.
SOUTH OF CHASE AVENUE ON MAY 16TH, 1966, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED FINAL MAP FIVE SEVEN, THREE EIGHT FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BARK VILLAGE SUBDIVISION LOCATED SOUTH OF CHASE AVENUE IN THE SOUTHWESTERN QUADRANT OF THE CITY.
THIS SIGN AND RECORDED MAP CREATED A FOUR FOOT WIDE WALKWAY EASTMAN BETWEEN MOANA PLACE AND BENJAMIN PLACE AND TENDED TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS ON BOTH STREETS TO CONNECT THE TWO CALLED THE, THIS WALKWAY.
EASTMAN IS PART OF THE ORIGINAL SUBDIVISION DESIGN, BOTH CALLED THE SEX ARE POSTED WITH DEAD END SIGNS AND HAVE STREET LIGHTS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE CUL-DE-SACS AT EITHER END OF THE WALKWAY.
THERE ARE NO SIGNS INDICATING WHERE THE WALKWAY IS.
THIS WALKWAY EASEMENT HAS BEEN USED CONTINUOUSLY AS IT WAS INTENDED BY RESIDENTS PAST AND PRESENT.
SINCE THE DEVELOPMENT WAS BUILT, IT IS AN AMENITY AND OUR DEVELOPMENT, BOTH A BUYING AND SELLING FEATURE OF OUR HOMES.
IT IS A SAFE WAY TO WALK BOTH STREETS WITHOUT WALKING ON CHASE AVENUE, A VERY BUSY, HIGHLY TRAVELED ROAD.
IT IS ALSO A WAY OF EITHER STREET IN CASE OF EMERGENCY, IT HAS NEVER BEEN A UTILITY EASEMENT CLOSURE CLOSURE WOULD TAKE AWAY OUR RIGHTS TO USE AS TO THE CONCERNS OF MAINTENANCE PERMISSION TO TRIM FRUIT TREES OVER WALKWAY AND HELP TO WEED AND SWEEP WAS GIVEN FOR THE VET BENJAMIN PLACE SIDE OF WALKWAY RESIDENTS COMPLETED THESE TASKS AND WILL CONTINUE TO HELP PERMISSION TO HELP WITH MAINTENANCE ON THE MOANA PLACE SIDE OF WALKWAY, WEST DECLINE AS TO THE CONCERNS OF TRASH AND LOITERING RESIDENTS WILL CONTINUE TO BE RESPECTFUL PRIVACY AND DISCARD TRASH PROPERLY AS TO THE CONCERNS OF LIABILITY TO OUR KNOWLEDGE.
THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY ISSUES.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
AND SIR, UM, AGAIN, IF YOU WOULD LIKE ME TO READ THE NAMES, I COULD, UH, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND INCLUDE THEM IN OUR MINUTES FOR THE RECORD, THE PETITION THAT YOU HAVE, WHAT IS IT? WHAT IS THE HEADACHE OF THE PETITION? WHAT ARE THEY ASKING YOU FOR PETITION OPPOSING EASTMAN CLOSURE? THAT'S ALL IT SAYS A YES, AND THEN THEY ENCLOSURES, THEY GAVE MAPS AND SOME PICTURES.
AND THEN WHAT I READ TO YOU, ALRIGHT, IS THAT THE END OF THE P THE COMMENTS? SO THE LAST COMMENT I HAVE IS FROM MARGARET M JUST SUE.
AND SHE IS THE, I BELIEVE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY OF WHERE THE EASTMAN IS AND THIS, UH, SHE ACTUALLY SUBMITTED COPIES FOR ME TO, TO FORWARD TO YOU AND THE COUNCIL.
SO I SENT THEM TO YOU YESTERDAY THAT I WILL READ THE COVER LETTER AND IT SAYS, MAYOR WELLS ATTACH IT.
I PREPARE FOR SUPPORT OF THE DATA I HAVE COLLECTED FOR 28 DAYS SLASH NIGHTS REGARDING THE EASEMENT.
I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED TO HEAR AFTER READING THE AGENDA THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WANTS TO POSTPONE THE VACATION OF
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THE WALKWAY EASTMAN FOR A PERIOD OF ONE YEAR TO DATE, IT HAS BEEN ONE YEAR SINCE I STARTED THIS PROGRESS.IT IS NOT IN MY BEST INTERESTS AS A PROPERTY OWNER TO CONTINUE TO ACCEPT LIABILITY FOR ANOTHER YEAR.
I PERCEIVE THIS AS A LACK OF CONCERN OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE ADJUST AN EXPEDIENT DECISION OF IN THIS MATTER.
WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE POSTPONEMENT QUESTION MARK? ONCE THE YEAR IS OVER, WHERE DOES THIS GO FROM HERE? QUESTION MARK IS THE VACATION AUTOMATICALLY.
I HOPE THESE QUESTIONS WILL BE ADDRESSED AT THIS COUNCIL MEETING OF, I WILL BE IN ATTENDANCE VIA INTERNET.
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
MARGARET M JUST SU 1194 MONA PLACE.
AND THAT IS THE END OF THE COMMENTS.
UM, WELL, I HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THE CLOSE, THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SECOND MAYOR SERVED VOTE, PLEASE.
DEPUTY MAYOR OR COUNCIL MEMBER OF GLOBAL.
COUNCIL MEMBER KENDRICK AND COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
UM, WE'LL START WITH, UH, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL.
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR STAFF.
SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THIS EASEMENT TECHNICALLY IS ON THE HOMEOWNERS.
IT'S ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND STAFF'S RECOMMEND, WELL, STAFF IS SAYING THAT WE DON'T HAVE THE CITY NO LONGER HAS ANY USE FOR THE EASEMENT MOVING FORWARD.
IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
WE CHECK WITH ALL THE UTILITIES, UH, IN THAT AREA.
AND, UH, THEY RESPONDED BACK THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY UTILITIES GOING THROUGH THAT EASEMENT.
SO WE DON'T HAVE AS, AS A CITY OF NO PARTICULAR USE FOR THAT PARTICULAR REASON.
OH, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
UM, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE IS BECAUSE IT'S SPLIT THE MENTOR? YES.
UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE STUFF SLIDE, LET ME SAY HERE.
DO YOU SEE THE SLIDE? THAT'S UP ON THE SCREEN? NO.
GOT TO SHARE THE SCREEN WHILE I'M HAVING YOU DO THAT.
I'LL ASK A QUESTION FOR OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
WHO'S LIABLE FOR ANY INJURY SUFFERED IN THE EASEMENT, LIKE A TRIP OVER CONCRETE OR SOME OTHER INJURY.
I WON'T TELL YOU THAT WE'RE LIABLE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT, UM, UH, IT'S A CITY SIDEWALK ESSENTIALLY.
AND LIKE ANY CITY SIDEWALK, IT, WE WOULD LOOK TO THE UNDERLYING PROPERTY OWNERS FOR, UH, UH, THEIR CONTRIBUTION.
IF THE LIFTING OF THE SIDEWALK, FOR EXAMPLE, IS CAUSED BY A TREE THAT WAS PLANTED THERE.
BUT ONCE WE'RE ON NOTICE AND WE DON'T HAVE NOTICE, EXCEPT THAT THERE WAS A COMMENT TODAY OF A LIFTING OF THE SIDEWALK.
ONCE WE HAVE NOTICE OF A DANGEROUS CONDITION SIDEWALK, THEN WE HAVE A DUTY TO REPAIR THAT MAKE THOSE REPAIRS AT OUR COST.
I THINK, UH, THE SLIDE SHOULD BE UP.
WHAT'S IT, IT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW AND ESSENTIALLY IT RUNS, UH, ON THE NORTHERLY OR THE SOUTHERLY SIDE OF THEIR PROPERTIES OR JUST NORTH OF THE 50 AND LOT 50 OR A PARCEL 31, A SHELL.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS THE EASEMENT ON JUST ONE SIDE OF THE LOTS 50 AND 51, OR THEY THERE'S A SPLIT DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THAT SIDEWALK? NO, IT'S ENTIRELY ON A LOT'S 49 AND 32.
SO FOR INSTANCE, THE OWNERS OF LOT 50 AND 51 COULD NOT CHANGE THEIR FENCE LINE BECAUSE THEY ARE AT THEIR PROPERTIES EDGE, BUT THE OWNERS OF LOT 4,930, TWO 52 COULD THEORETICALLY MOVE THEIR FENCE LINE FOUR FEET FURTHER SOUTH, I GUESS IT IS.
THAT'S A CORRECT COVER THE EASEMENT IF THEY WANT IT TO.
BUT REALLY THE OWNERS OF THE EASEMENT ARE LOST 49 AND 52 30, TWO 49 AND 32.
AND WHO, UH, WHAT ARE THE ADDRESSES OF LOTS? 49 AND 32.
IT'S 1194 MONA PLACE AND ONE, ONE EIGHT, FIVE BENJAMIN PLACE.
SO MS. JESU OWNS ONE OF THEM, ONE OF THE LOTS THAT CONTAINS THE EASEMENT, CORRECT.
SHE'S 49 AND WHO'S THE OWNER OF
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LOT 32, A PERSON NAMED ONE BERRERA I BELIEVE.AND I DON'T RECALL, WAS HE FOR AGAINST OR NEUTRAL TO THIS VACATION? HE'S IN FAVOR OF VACATING IN FAVOR.
SO BOTH THE PROPERTY OWNERS ARE IN FAVOR OF VACATED.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MORGAN POLI.
HI, THAT'S UH, THE EASEMENT IS, UH, FOR THE, IN THIS, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC CAUSE ANYBODY CAN USE IT AT ANY TIME.
AND TYPICALLY WOULDN'T THEY'RE HOMEOWNERS, UH, THEIR HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE COVER THEIR PROPERTY FOR ANYTHING TO HAPPEN ON THE EASEMENT.
AND DOES IT, SO AGAIN, BEN, WERE THERE EVER ANY UTILITIES OR WAS IT A CONCERT OR WAS THIS DECIDED SOLELY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC? MY RECOLLECTION OF THE RECORD FROM WAY BACK IN 66, NOT THAT I WAS HERE, BUT READING THE MATERIALS BEFORE IS THAT IT WAS SOLELY FOR THE PUBLIC.
I THINK MARIO HAS ALREADY MENTIONED THAT THERE ARE NO UTILITIES, PUBLIC UTILITIES, NONE OF OURS STG OR ANY OTHER UTILITIES THAT GO THROUGH THAT EASEMENT AS FAR AS WE KNEW, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC.
I'VE GOT ANOTHER QUESTION FOR STAFF.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER EASEMENTS LIKE THIS IN THE CITY THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF? UM, I BELIEVE SO.
UM, DON'T HOLD MY FEET TO THE FIRE, BUT OVER THERE, UM, IN MADISON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THERE'S THE COLDEST SACK.
I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT STREET NAME THAT IT GOES FROM THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL TO, UH, CALLED THE SAC.
THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I RECOLLECT RECOLLECTING THE CITY.
STEVE, DID YOU GET YOUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED? YES.
I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.
YOU MAY HAVE ANSWERED THIS ALREADY, BUT AS FAR AS CRIMES THAT HAVE HAPPENED ON THAT EASEMENT, DO WE HAVE RECORDS ANY CRIMES HAPPENING? NO.
I VERIFIED WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS, THE DETERMINED THERE'S ANY, UH, CALLS FOR SERVICE THERE.
AND WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY THE LAST TWO YEARS.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE GENERALLY IN FAVOR OF KEEPING THE EASEMENT, BUT THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE DIRECTLY ON THE EASEMENT ARE GUESSES.
IS THAT A FAIR SUMMARY OF THAT? DEFINITELY.
AND THEN THEY MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT, UH, IT'D BE DEDICATED TO THE PUBLIC ON MAY 15TH, 1966.
WHAT IS THAT ABOUT? UM, MAYBE MORGAN, YOU COULD HELP ME WITH THAT.
I THINK HE WAS A PART OF THE SUBDIVISION MAP PROCESS.
UH, THE CITY COUNCIL, I ADDED IT OR INCLUDED AS A CONDITION TO APPROVAL OF THE MAP FOR THAT SUBDIVISION.
AND THEN WHEN IT BECAME A FINAL MAP THAT WAS ACCEPTED BY THE CITY.
SO AT THAT TIME THEY, THEY FELT THAT IT WAS ESSENTIAL.
AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW WHY I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
I'LL JUST TRY TO GET A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF OKAY.
UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MORGAN, THE OWNERS PERTINENT FOR PROPERTY? IS IT LIKELY THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN AWARE OF THAT EASEMENT? YES, IT WOULD.
UM, YEAH, IT'S LIKELY IT WAS PART OF THE TITLE REPORT THAT SHOWED THAT AN EASEMENT A RIGHT ACROSS THEIR PROPERTY, LIKE ANY UTILITY OR OTHER PUBLIC EASEMENT MIGHT HAPPEN.
UM, SUBDIVISION MAPS INCLUDE THOSE EASEMENTS AND ESPECIALLY THE OLD ONES, UH, NOT THIS SPECIFIC ONE, BUT FOR EXAMPLE, SIDEWALKS, AND AS YOU ALL MAY RECALL, MANY STREETS GO TO THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY LINES, GO TO THE CENTER OF A STREET IS MR. GOLDMAN WAS ALLUDING TO, UM, AND IN THIS CASE IT WAS ALL THE BURDEN WAS ALL ON LOTS 49 AND 32.
BUT THEY KNEW THAT GOING IN A DEAL THEN.
THEY WOULD HAVE HAD NOTICE OF THAT BASED ON A TITLE REPORT.
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OKAY, COUNSEL.WELL, WE'VE, WE'VE HEARD FROM THE PUBLIC, UM, WE'VE ASKED MORE QUESTIONS.
DOES ANYBODY WANT TO ENTER INTO THE DISCUSSION OR MAKE A MOTION? I THINK, UH, SINCE MORE PEOPLE WANT IT AND DON'T WANT IT, UH, I THINK WE ARE TO GIVE THAT, UH, A LOT OF WEIGHT.
I THINK WE OUGHT TO LEAVE IT OPEN FOR THE NEXT YEAR AND SEE WHAT, IF THERE'S ANY PROBLEMS. SO THAT WOULD BE BY MUCH BY, BY TINDER.
I I'M CONCERNED THAT THE, THAT THE OWNERS THAT HAVE THESE BEEN GOING PAST THEM, AREN'T I HAPPY WITH IT.
CAUSE I COULD SEE WHY THAT WOULD BOTHER ME AS WELL.
UM, BUT OF COURSE WE HAVE TO BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY.
SO, UM, I THINK THE, THE WATCHING IT FOR A YEAR SEEMS LIKE A GOOD COMPROMISE TO ME, JERRY.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE WAY I LOOK AT THIS, IT'S KINDA LIKE IT USED TO EXPLAIN IT WHEN I WAS TEACHING REAL ESTATE CLASSES AT, UH, SOUTHWESTERN COLLEGE.
WHEN YOU BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY, YOU GET A BUNDLE OF RIGHTS, LIKE A BUNDLE OF STICKS.
THEY NEVER HAD THAT SICK THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT GAVE HIM THE EXCLUSIVE USE OF THAT PORTION OF THEIR PROPERTY.
THEY GAVE THAT THE PUBLIC HAD THAT STICK TO BEGIN WITH TO WHERE THEY'RE ASKING US TO GIVE THEM SOMETHING THAT THEY NEVER HAD AND TO TAKE AWAY THAT STICK FROM THE PUBLIC.
AND I DON'T SEE ANY COMPELLING REASON TO DO THAT.
IN FACT, I SEEN EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE, EVEN THE, ONE OF THE APPLICANTS, UH, ON PIECES OF EVIDENCE INDICATES THAT PEOPLE USE THAT VIRTUALLY EVERY DAY AND MULTIPLE PEOPLE KIND OF LIKE A PRESCRIPTIVE EASEMENT ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, UH, SOMETHING TO HAVE PERMISSION, YOU KNOW? UH, SO I, I CAN'T SEE, UH, VACATING THAT EASY.
SO, UH, I'M OKAY WITH A COMPROMISE TO WAIT A YEAR, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I'D BE HARD PRESSED TO, UH, GIVE AWAY THE PUBLIC.
SOMETHING TO PUBLIC HAS ALWAYS HAD AND, UH, HOMEOWNER INSURANCE WOULD COVER ANY ACCIDENT, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, LIABILITY REALLY SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE, BUT THEY KNEW ABOUT THIS EASEMENT GOING INTO THE DEAL ABOUT THAT PROPERTY.
AND PRESUMABLY THEY WOULD HAVE THE MARKET WOULD, UH, LOWER THE VALUE OF THAT PROPERTY OF IT REALLY DOES ACT AS A DETRIMENT.
SO I THINK THE MOST FAIR THING TO DO IS TO KEEP THE EASEMENT THERE IN THE SPIRIT OF COMPROMISE.
I WILL SUPPORT, UH, DELAYING IT A YEAR.
ANYBODY ELSE LIKE TO MAKE COMMENT OR WHEN SOMEBODY LIKES TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WAS, I MADE, I MADE A MOTION.
UM, I I'D BE HAPPY TO SECOND YOUR MOTION BOB, BUT I WANT TO GIVE, UH, PHIL AND STEVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IF THEY WANT TO.
I WOULD LIKE TO JUMP IN AND SAY THAT, UH, THE PETITION THERE'S 36 DAYS, BUT THAT REPRESENTS 21 UNIQUE ADDRESSES.
21 UNIQUE ADDRESSES IS A LOT OF, I THINK WHAT COMES DOWN.
I UNDERSTAND THE HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE COVERS THE LIABILITY.
UH, AND CERTAINLY YOU CAN SUE ANYBODY YOU WANT TO JUST CAUSE IT'S THE HOMEOWNERS PROPERTY DOESN'T MEAN THE CITY'S NOT GOING TO GET SUED FOR SOMETHING.
UM, SO I'M, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE LIABILITY ISSUE.
UH, I DO AGREE THAT IF YOU MOVED IN TO THAT HOUSE AFTER 1966, AND YOU KNEW WHAT THE, WHAT THE SITUATION WAS, UH, SO I'M, I'M MORE SYMPATHETIC TO THE LIABILITY ISSUE THAT A VERY LIMITED NUMBER OF PEOPLE ARE GETTING BENEFIT.
IN THIS CASE, AT THE EXPENSE OF TWO PRIVATE PARTIES, YOU CAN MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT THEIR HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE, UH, IS INFLATED TO COVER THE LIABILITY OF THIS, UM, EASEMENT AND THAT WHATEVER FACTOR THAT IS, THE RESIDENTS ARE ENJOYING THAT FREE OF CHARGE.
WHILE THE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE THIS EASEMENT ON THEIR PROPERTY ARE PLAYING, ARE PAYING AND PAYING THROUGH LIABILITY INSURANCE FOR THAT.
AND THE CITY BECOMES, UM, A PARTY THAT PROBABLY WOULD GET SUED TOO, BUT I'M OKAY WITH A ONE
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YEAR, WAIT AND SEE, UM, ON THIS ISSUE, ALL GOOD POINTS.UM, REALLY BRIEFLY IT SOUNDED LIKE THE RESIDENTS ON EITHER OUR JUST SAY ON BOTH SIDES, WANT SOME KIND OF A RESOLUTION AND, YOU KNOW, WE DELAYED THIS THE INITIAL TIME TO ALLOW THE RESIDENTS OF THIS COMMUNITY TO ATTEMPT TO COME TO SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT TOGETHER.
UM, BUT IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE, LIKE THAT'S HAPPENED.
UM, THAT'S OF COURSE THE FIRST AND BEST SOLUTION TO THIS IS HAVING THE RESIDENTS WORK IT OUT AMONGST EACH OTHER CAUSE THEY ARE NEIGHBORS.
UM, IT'S HARD TO, UM, I HAVE TO SPEAK FOR THE MINORITY.
THE MOST VULNERABLE MINORITY IS THE INDIVIDUAL.
AND, UM, I THINK THERE, THIS IS JUST THE, THE, UH, THE OTHER SIDE IS WE HAVE TO RESPECT PEOPLE'S PROPERTY RIGHTS.
UM, THIS IS ON THEIR PROPERTY.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND PEOPLE WANTING TO USE IT, I DON'T, IT, WE SHOULD STILL RESPECT THE INDIVIDUAL'S PROPERTY AND THE INDIVIDUAL'S RIGHTS, SO THEY DON'T GET TRAMPLED ON.
UM, SO I'M SYMPATHETIC TOWARDS THAT END.
I UNDER, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S THE OTHER ASPECT THAT THEY KNEW COMING INTO THIS, THAT, UH, WHEN THEY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE PART OF THE DEAL LIKE COUNCILMAN KENDRICK SAID.
UM, BUT AT A CERTAIN POINT, YOU KNOW, WHEN DO WE, YOU KNOW, STOP, UM, AND WHEN DO WE STEP IN, AS THE GOVERNMENT, OUR ROLE IS TO DEFEND PEOPLE'S RIGHTS AND LIBERTIES AND, AND PART OF THAT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY.
SO I AM SYMPATHETIC TOWARDS THAT END.
UM, UH, BUT OF COURSE THE FIRST AND BEST CHOICES FOR THE NEIGHBORS TO, TO WORK WITH EACH OTHER AND COME TO SOME KIND OF AGREEMENT YOU THINK IT'S POSSIBLE, THEY CAN DO THAT WITHIN THAT YEAR PERIOD.
UH, YOU KNOW, I, IT SOUNDED LIKE THEY MADE SOME CONTACT WITH EACH OTHER AND, AND CLEANED UP.
I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THAT'S EVEN POSSIBLE, BUT THAT'S HOW A COMMUNITY IS BUILT IS BY WORKING WITH EACH OTHER AND KNOCKING ON EACH OTHER'S DOOR AND, AND TALKING WITH EACH OTHER AND COMING TO SOME KIND OF COMPROMISE INSTEAD OF COMING TO THE GOVERNMENT TO, TO SOLVE YOUR PROBLEMS. I'M THINKING IF THEY CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT, WE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO WAIT A YEAR.
UH, AS SOON AS THEY'VE DECIDED ON, UH, ON A WAY THAT THEY ALL WANT TO DO THIS, ANY MORE COMMENTS, THERE ARE ALSO SOME COSTS INVOLVED HERE.
AS YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A 54 YEARS SINCE THIS THING WAS BUILT AND YOU'VE GOT SOME SIDEWALKS THAT NEED TO BE MAINTAINED CONCRETE.
THE EDGES ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BECOME UNEVEN OVER TIME.
AND CERTAINLY THE TAXPAYERS OF ALCOHOL ARE BEING ASKED TO PROBABLY MAINTAIN THIS CONCRETE FROM TRIP HAZARDS AND OTHER THINGS.
WHAT'S THE COST OF THAT VERSUS HOW MANY DOES THIS BENEFIT? SO I THINK THE LONGER THE TIME GOES ON, UH, THAT'S GOING TO BECOME AN ISSUE FOR COSTS, BUT WOULDN'T THAT BE THE SAME WITH, WITH ANY SIDEWALK? AND, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE TO, I THINK WE HAVE TO RESPECT THE, THE EARLIER COUNCIL'S DECISION THAT THIS WAS A NECESSARY THING.
SO I THINK THE RESPONSIBILITY WISE ON THE CITY, LIKE IT WOULD WITH ANY SIDEWALK, WELL, BUT THIS IS AN UNUSUAL SITUATION THAT THAT'S ON PRIVATE PROPERTY INSTEAD OF A PUBLIC RIGHT WAY.
UM, IF THERE'S NO MORE COMMENTS, I'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE A VOTE.
UH, BUT IF THERE ARE MORE COMMENTS, PLEASE FEEL FREE.
COULD I PLEASE ASK A COUNCIL MEMBER MCLAREN TO REPEAT HIS MOTION? SURE.
UH, BECAUSE MORE PEOPLE WANT IT, IF DON'T, THEN DON'T WANT IT.
UM, I HAVE TO SPEAK FOR THE MAJORITY AND RESPECT THEIR WISHES.
UM, UH, THERE HAVEN'T BEEN ANY MAJOR PROBLEMS ON THE, UH, ON THE EASEMENT FOR, UM, WHAT 60 YEARS ABOUT, UH, SO I'M GONNA MAKE THE MOTION THAT, UH, WE LEAVE IT OPEN FOR A YEAR AND THEN DISCUSS IT SAME AS A SNACK.
WHAT'S THAT THE SAME AS THE STAFFORD? CORRECT.
THE SECOND ROUND TABLE MAYOR WELTER WROTE.
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MY VOTE IS NO COUNCIL MEMBER GLOBAL.MOTION CARRIES BY A FALL ONE VOTE WITH DEPUTY MAYOR OR T'S VOTING.
[15. Proposed amendments to Title 15 (Building Code), and Title 17 (Zoning Code) to allow an emergency housing pilot program RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council: Opens the Public Hearing and receives testimony; Closes the Public Hearing; Moves to introduce the next Ordinance, in order, and holds the first reading, amending Title 17 to allow an emergency housing pilot program; and Moves to introduce the next Ordinance, in order, and holds the first reading to adopt Appendix O of the 2019 California Building Code, and directs that a public hearing be scheduled for the September 8, 2020 City Council meeting at 3:00 p.m. ]
IS A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO TITLE 15 AND 17 AND STAFF.WOULD YOU TELL US ABOUT THIS? YES.
JUST GIVE ME A MOMENT HERE TO GET THIS POWERPOINT UP AND RUNNING.
CAN YOU SEE THIS POWERPOINT? THAT'S WONDERFUL.
ALRIGHT, SO LET'S GET STARTED.
SO, UH, THIS PROJECT WAS INITIATED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, ON MAY 26, WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF TO DRAFT CODE AMENDMENTS, ALLOWING FOR EMERGENCY HOUSING.
IN ORDER TO SEE IF ALLOWING SUCH A USE ON CERTAIN PROPERTIES WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE CITY'S HOMELESS POPULATION.
THE CITY COUNCIL INDICATED THAT THIS HOUSING STRATEGY WOULD INCLUDE WRAPAROUND SERVICES AND BE TEMPORARY WITH A SUNSET DATE OF DECEMBER, 2021.
NOW THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD KNOW THAT THERE IS CURRENT STATE LAW THAT INCLUDING THE, IN THE CALIFORNIA BUILDING CODE THAT SUPPORTS LOCAL EMERGENCY HOW THE STRATEGIES THIS LAW ALLOWS FOR THE ADOPTION OF LESSER HOUSING STANDARDS DURING A DECLARED EMERGENCY, UH, DURING A DECLARED HOUSING EMERGENCY, AS LONG AS THE STANDARDS ENSURE MINIMAL PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY FOR ANY OCCUPANTS OF AN EMERGENCY HOUSING FACILITY.
NOW, THE BUILDING CODE INCLUDES, UM, THESE STANDARDS AND APPENDIX O, WHICH ARE DESIGNED TO ENSURE PERSONS HAVE AT A MINIMUM BASIC SANITARY CONDITIONS, CONDITIONS MET AND THAT THIS TYPE OF HOUSING IS SAFE.
AND SO THESE STANDARDS ARE ALREADY BEEN SET IN THE BUILDING CODE SO THAT THE CITY WOULD NOT HAVE TO CREATE THEIR OWN.
HOWEVER, BEFORE SUCH STANDARDS CAN BE ADOPTED A LOCAL SHELTER CRISIS MUST BE DECLARED IN THE COUNCIL, DID THAT BACK IN 2018.
NOW THE PROPOSED ORDINANCES BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL IN THIS CASE WOULD ALLOW PROPERTIES THAT CURRENTLY HAVE A NON-GOVERNMENTAL INSTITUTIONAL USE DEDICATED TO SERVING THE COMMUNITY, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR EMERGENCY HOUNDING UNDER CERTAIN CONDITIONS AND UNDER CERTAIN CRITERIA AND SUBJECT TO STANDARDS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH MINIMAL SAFETY AND SANITARY CODES, UM, WHICH ARE, UM, TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S COMPATIBILITY WITH ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS AND LINK PEOPLE TO PERMANENT HOUSING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
NOW STAFF BELIEVES THERE'S TWO MAJOR OR TWO MAIN OVER ARCHING ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
ONE IS THE NEED TO ENSURE THAT AN EMERGENCY HOUSING FACILITY IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE PRIMARY USE OF, OF WHICH THE FACILITY IS LOCATED.
AND THAT IT'S ALSO COMPATIBLE WITH ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
THE SECOND IS THAT THIS PROPOSED PILOT PROJECT PROVIDES SAFE, IMMEDIATE SHELTER AND ASSISTANCE TO ALCOHOL'S HOMELESS POPULATION WITH THE GOAL OF TRANSITIONING THEM TO PERMANENT HOUSING.
SO IN TERMS OF SUITABLE SITES, PROPERTIES THAT ARE ZONED FOR RESIDENTIAL USES AND HAVE A NON-GOVERNMENTAL INSTITUTIONAL PRIMARY USE, WE THINK WOULD BE GOOD CANDIDATES FOR EMERGENCY HOUSING.
NOW, STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED AT LEAST 13 PROPERTIES THAT ARE AT LEAST A MINIMUM OF ONE AND A HALF ACRES.
THEY'RE ALSO LOCATED ON A PRIMARY OR SECONDARY THOROUGHFARE, AND WE THINK THIS IS NECESSARY.
SO THAT THEY'RE ONE EASY TO FIND.
UM, WE THINK THAT THESE SITES WOULD BE LARGE ENOUGH TO SUPPORT AN ACCESSORY HOUSING OPERATION WITHOUT CONFLICTING WITH THE PRIMARY USE AND PROVIDE ADEQUATE SPACING FOR JASON PROPERTIES.
STAFF ALSO BELIEVES THAT SUCH HOUSING SUCH EMERGENCY HOUSING OPERATION COULD BE IN TWO FORMS. UM, I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD OF THE TINY HOUSE APPROACH.
UM, THERE'S, UM, WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS A STANDARD WOOD-FRAME CONSTRUCTION, WHICH IS FOUND IN APPENDIX O OF THE CALIFORNIA BUILDING CODE.
THIS WOULD REQUIRE BUILDING PERMITS AND THEN THE TINY HOUSE ON WHEELS, WHICH WOULD NOT REQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT, BUT WOULD NEED TO MEET, UM, A CERTAIN STATE NATIONAL SAFETY
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STANDARDS, UM, THAT ARE PROPOSED IN THE ORDINANCE.NOW, OF COURSE, THE MAIN GOAL OF, UH, PROPOSED THIS PROPOSED MERCY HOUSING STRATEGY IS TO PROVIDE SAFE SHELTER WHILE TRANSITIONING PEOPLE FROM THE STREET, THE PERMANENT HOUSING.
AND WE FOUND THAT IN, IN THE DATA THAT WE FOUND, IT SHOWS THAT SHELTERS MUST FOCUS ON ASSESSMENT AND TRIAGE WHILE SECURING PERMANENT HOUSING AND THIS PROVEN TO BE SUCCESSFUL METHOD OR A SUCCESSFUL MODEL.
AND SO TO THIS END STAFF BELIEVES THAT OPERATIONAL STANDARDS MUST BE INCLUDED IN DESIGNED TO PROVIDE THE, THE ONE, THE BASIC NEEDS OF THOSE USING THE FACILITY, INCLUDING CASE MANAGEMENT AND WRAPAROUND SERVICES THAT ARE MANAGED BY A, BY AN ORGANIZATION WHO IS EXPERIENCED WITH PROVIDING SUCH SERVICES.
NOW THESE SHOULD, THERE SHOULD ALSO BE ONSITE SECURITY, CLEANING PROTOCOLS AND OTHER MEASURES TO ENSURE ACTIVE COMPATIBILITY AND GOOD NEIGHBOR RELATIONS WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES IN NEIGHBORHOODS.
NOW, STAFF, UM, IS PROPOSING TO, UH, TO ENSURE THAT AN ORGANIZATION HAS TIME TO IMPLEMENT AN EMERGENCY HOUSING FACILITY AND BE EFFECTIVE THAT IN THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, STAFF HAS PROPOSED A SUNSET DATE OF DECEMBER 20, 23.
UM, THE CITY COUNCIL OF COURSE, HAD, HAD INDICATED THAT DECEMBER, 2021 WOULD BE THE SUNSET DATE THAT THEY HAD IN MIND.
UM, STAFF THINKS I'M TRYING TO GET SOMETHING UP AND RUNNING, MAY TAKE A BIT OF TIME AND TO PROVE TO BE EFFECTIVE.
UM, SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE DECEMBER, 2023, UM, SUNSET DATE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
OF COURSE, STAFF CAN, EXCUSE ME, CITY COUNCIL CAN ADOPT A DIFFERENT DATE AND IN ORDER TO TRY TO, TO IMPLEMENT SUCH FACILITY AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, BUT ALSO TO ENSURE THAT STANDARDS ARE MET IF ADOPTED OF STAFF IS PROPOSING THAT THE PROCESS START WITH ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL, UM, THAT WOULD BE IN AN ADMINISTRATIVE ZONING PERMIT.
UM, THE PERMIT IS TO ENSURE, OF COURSE, ALL THE STANDARDS ARE MET AND TO DOCUMENT THIS, UH, ACCESSORY USE ON THE, ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, A BUILDING PERMITS IF REQUIRED WITHIN FOLLOW AND THAT WOOD BUILDING PERMITS WOULD ONLY BE REQUIRED FOR ANY STANDARD CONSTRUCTION.
SO THESE STANDARDS, UM, WERE PRESENTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON JULY 21ST, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL FIVE.
AND SO WITH THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE PROPOSED CAUSE THE HOUSING ORDINANCE.
UM, SO THE AMENDMENT TO TITLE 17, AS WELL AS INTRODUCING AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE CALIFORNIA BUILDING CODE AND ADOPTED PENDINGS, OH, STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
ALSO, JUST SO YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH THIS IS NOT FOCUSED ON ONE PROPERTY, WE ALL KNOW THAT WE'VE BEEN IN SOME DISCUSSIONS WITH PASTORAL AND SLADE FROM RUDY AND BAPTIST CHURCH.
WE THINK THAT THEY'LL PROBABLY BE THE FIRST ONES THAT WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS ZONING CHANGE IF THE COUNCIL PURSUES US.
SO WE'VE ACTUALLY INVITED PASTOR SLATE TO BE ON THE LINE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
JUST KIND OF UNDERSTAND HOW THIS ZONING POLICY WOULD BE IMPLEMENTED IN A REAL WORLD SCENARIO.
UM, PASTOR SLADE, GLAD YOU'RE HERE WITH US.
I BELIEVE HE'S BEING PROMOTED RIGHT NOW TO GET ONLINE.
SO ANY TIME, UM, COUNSEL, ANY, UH, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, I BET YOU THERE'S LOTS.
WHAT WOULD BE THE PROCESS FOR THE SECOND APPLICANT AFTER MERIDIAN? AND MY UNDERSTANDING THAT, UH, THE FINAL APPROVAL BE GIVEN BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR BY THE CITY? WELL, THE PROPOSAL ORDINANCES, UM, INDICATING THAT STAFF WOULD APPROVE, IF THESE STANDARDS ARE ADOPTED, THAT THE STAFF WOULD APPROVE THE FACILITY, IF THEY CAN MEET THE STANDARDS IN THE, IN THE CODE.
SO IN ORDER TO STREAMLINE AND GET IT OUT QUICKLY, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT STAFF DO THAT.
ALTHOUGH THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY IF THE CITY COUNCIL WISHES TO DO SO THAT SUCH AN, UM, PROCESS BE ELEVATED TO THE NEXT DECISION MAKER, WHICH COULD BE THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE CITY COUNCIL.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? I, I HAVE SOMEONE I'LL WAIT TILL YOU'RE ALL FINISHED.
HAS THERE BEEN ANY INTEREST SINCE WE FIRST INTRODUCED THIS FROM OTHER ORGANIZATIONS OTHER THAN VERDE AND BAPTIST AND PASTOR ROLAND AND THE
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UM, COMMENDING, THE CITY OF ALCOHOL AND FOR CONSIDERING SUCH A MEASURE.OKAY, BOB, ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR JUMPING ON THIS.
WHEN I HEARD ABOUT THIS, MY INITIAL THOUGHT WAS NO WAY.
I SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN LOS ANGELES, SAN FRANCISCO, WITH PUTTING PEOPLE UP IN HOTELS.
THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE TURNING TRASH IN THE HOTELS, RUNNING METH LABS OUT OF THEM, PROSTITUTION, ALL KINDS OF CRIME.
AND I LOOKED AT THE TINY HOUSES THAT ARE GOING IN A PLACE LIKE OAKLAND, WHERE THEY TURNED THE AREA TO A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY.
EVEN THOUGH I HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT THIS IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE THOSE WERE TINY HOUSES THAT WERE BEING PUT UP WITHOUT ANY PERMISSION SO THAT THE CITY HAD NO INPUT ON THAT.
SO I I'VE BEEN VERY SKEPTICAL ON IT.
AND I, UM, TALKED WITH PASTOR SLADE YESTERDAY AND HE EXPLAINED TO ME THAT WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS VERY DIFFERENT THERE.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE PROCESS, BRINGING, UM, SMALL FAMILIES IN WOMEN, SINGLE WHATEVER WITH CHILDREN, AND THEY WOULD BE BROUGHT INTO THE CHURCH COMMUNITY AND THERE WOULD BE STRICT RULES THAT THEY HAD TO ADHERE TO, OR THEY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE ASKED TO LEAVE.
UM, MY QUESTION OF MORGAN AND OF STAFF IS, IS THERE A WAY TO ENSURE THAT ANYBODY WHO DOES THIS WELL, THIS WOULD BE ALLOWING THE GRANT, UH, APPROVAL OF A PERMIT.
AND IF THEY FAIL TO COMPLY WITH THE TERMS OF THE PERMIT AND THEY CAN BE REVOKED AND ELIMINATE THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE THAT HOUSING LIKE THAT LOCATION, SO WE CAN MAKE IT CONTINGENT UPON THE, UH, THE TERMS THAT, UM, IF YOU LIMITED TO SINGLE WORDS OR THAT THEY WOULDN'T GO SO FAR AS TO SAY THAT, UM, YOU, YOU, YOU'RE STEPPING INTO A DISCRIMINATE DISCRIMINATION TYPE OF SETTING.
ALTHOUGH THE COURTS DO RECOGNIZE IT CERTAIN AGE AND GENDER DISCRIMINATION ISSUES ARE WAIVED OR NOT, WAIVE ARE NOT ENFORCEABLE AGAINST CERTAIN TYPES OF, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, MOSTLY THE WHOLE CONCEPT IS THAT THEY WOULD BE BUILT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PENDING.
SO, UM, AND TONY I'LL HAVE HIM, MR. CHU, STEP IN TO EXPLAIN WHAT THE AMENDMENTS TO TITLE 17 WOULD ALLOW AS FAR AS CONDITIONS ARE GOING, THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT AND FOLLOWING IN ORDER TO PREVENT A NUISANCE ACTIVITIES AND, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, UH, UM, NOISE AND, AND OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT ARE KIND OF ARE, UH, UH, BROUGHT TO THESE, THESE LOCATIONS, UM, UNKNOWINGLY OR UNWILLINGLY BY, BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
BUT TONY, MAYBE YOU COULD STEP IN TO EXPLAIN THAT PART.
SO MISS, UH, MR. MARIDEE, UM, PROPOSAL ORDINANCE INCLUDES OPERATIONAL STANDARDS TO HELP, UM, ENSURE COMPATIBILITY.
AND, AND, AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR ONSITE SECURITY, UM, THAT THE SERVICES BEING RENDERED ARE PROFESSIONALLY PROVIDED, UM, THAT THERE'S NO UNAUTHORIZED LAURENE SLEEPING OR CAMPING ON, ON THE, ON THE SIDE THAT THERE'S RESIDENT CHECK-IN.
UM, AND THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR A MANAGEMENT PLAN, UM, OPERATIONAL MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR STAFF TO REVIEW TO ENSURE THAT THE COUNCIL'S CONCERNS ARE ADDRESSED, UM, BY WAY OF THIS PROPOSAL ORDINANCE.
WHAT ABOUT DRUG ABUSE AND ALCOHOLISM? ARE WE WITHIN OUR RIGHTS TO SAY THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO BE AND SOBER TOO, TO STAY THERE? I BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN, WITH THE, UM, IT IS NOT MENTIONED IN THE ORDINANCE, UM, BUT I'LL LEAVE THAT TO MORGAN TO, TO, TO LET US TO LET YOU KNOW, UM, IF, IF THAT LANGUAGE CAN BE ADDED TO THE PROPOSAL ORDINANCE, LET ME, LET ME SEE, JUST SAY THAT, I THINK THAT THE WAY THE ORDINANCE IS PROPOSED AND DRAFTED, IT WILL BE THESE TYPES OF HOMES WOULD BE REGULATED BY THE INDIVIDUALS WHO PROVIDE THE, OR THE
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ORGANIZATIONS THAT PROVIDE THE SPACE TO PLACE THEM ON THEIR PROPERTY.AND THEY CAN, THEY'RE FREE TO, UM, PROVIDE WHATEVER RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT THEY WANT TO FOR THESE TYPES OF THINGS, INCLUDING THE, UM, OBVIOUSLY THE, UH, ABSENCE OF DRUGS AND ALCOHOL AND THAT SORT OF THING.
UM, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF WE'VE PUT ANYTHING, TONY, TONY HAS MENTIONED THAT WE HAVEN'T PUT ANYTHING INTO THE, INTO THE TITLE 17 PROVISIONS.
UM, BUT I WANT TO LOOK AT THE PERMIT PROCESS.
IF I COULD, AFTER I'D TAKEN A LOOK AT THAT, THAT'S FINE.
UH, THIS IS FOR A PASTOR SLIDE.
SO YOU'VE HEARD ALL THE THINGS I'VE, I'VE TALKED ABOUT.
ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THAT PASTOR? ABSOLUTELY.
I, I APPRECIATE THE ACCOUNTABILITY AND, UM, AND, AND KNOW THAT WE'LL LIVE UP TO THAT RESPONSIBILITY AND, YOU KNOW, TO KNOW THAT OUR PROPERTY NOW, THE PROPERTY OF MERIDIAN BAPTIST CHURCH IS A DRUG FOR DRUG AND ALCOHOL FREE PROPERTY.
WE DON'T ALLOW, YOU KNOW, UH, WHEN WE WERE HAVING WEDDING RECEPTIONS, WE DID NOT ALLOW ALCOHOL ON THE PREMISES.
AND SO THAT'S ALREADY IN OUR OPERATING MANUAL AS A CHURCH.
AND SO, UM, ANY USE OF OUR PROPERTY AT ALL, I MEAN, THAT IS THAT'S FUNDAMENTAL TO WHO WE ARE.
DO YOU HAVE THE, YOU HAVE THE FUNDS LEAVING TO RUN A PR UH, PROJECT LIKE THIS? WELL, WE ARE, IT'S GOING TO BE, IF WE HAVE THE, WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS IN THE BANK TODAY AND THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF, I BELIEVE WHY, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION EXTENDED THE TIME, YOU KNOW, THE SUNSET CLAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RAISE THE CAPITAL, MAKE US, WE'LL HAVE TO RAISE CAPITAL AS WELL TO BUILD THE CABINS AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE, UH, ADEQUATE STAFFING.
SO, UH, NO, WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY IN THE BANK TODAY.
COUNSEL MEMBERS, YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS BEFORE YOU OPEN UP THE PUBLIC COMMENT? I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR PROBABLY TONY.
UM, WOULD CDBG PHONES BE ELIGIBLE TO PAY FOR THESE CABINS? THERE, THERE ARE HOUSING FUNDS AVAILABLE TO PAY FOR, UM, THE, UM, CONSTRUCTION OF SUCH HOUSING.
UH, IT WOULD REQUIRE AN APPLICATION TO BE MADE.
IT WOULD RE UM, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE THERE'S A PROCESS FOR THAT.
W WOULDN'T IT CHANGE THE KIND OF STRUCTURE, WHAT WE COULD REQUIRE IF CITY MONEY WERE INVOLVED? MEANING IF I'VE, I'VE, I'VE SEEN OTHER PROGRAMS AND SAID, YOU CAN'T TELL PEOPLE THEY HAVE TO BE CLEAN AND SOBER IF YOU'RE USING PUBLIC MONEY.
SO THERE ARE CERTAIN CONDITIONS WHEN USING FEDERAL FUNDS AND YOU RAISED THE EXAMPLE OF MAYOR, THEN I THINK YOU'RE ALLUDING TO THE EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER SHELTER PROGRAM.
SO THE CDBG CDBG FUNDS THAT ARE USED JUST FOR THE PROVIDE SHELTER CAN ONLY BE FOR SHELTER.
THERE'S NO OTHER, UH, PROGRAMMING AS SUCH THAT INCLUDES ANY KIND OF RELIGIOUS COMPONENT THAT'S PROHIBITED.
SO MY SPECIFIC QUESTION WAS IF WE PASSED LONG FEDERAL FUNDS OR USED MONEY ON OUR GENERAL FUND, WOULDN'T THAT KIND OF CHANGE THE EQUATION OF REQUIRING PEOPLE NOT TO BE CLEANED THE SUMMER TO BE ON THE PROPERTY OR BE, TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE PROGRAM.
NO, MR. MURRAY, I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I DON'T KNOW THE FULL DETAILS OF THAT.
I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH THE, THE, UM, FEDERAL REGS TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY PROHIBITIONS OR CONSTRAINTS IN THAT REGARD.
BOTH MR. MERRILL, I'LL CHIME IN THAT, EVEN THOUGH WE MAY NOT KNOW THAT ANSWER, WE DO KNOW THAT WITH THE CDBG, THE FUNDS COMES A LOT OF REGULATIONS AND RULES THAT, UM, SOMEONE THAT'S RUNNING THIS WOULD HAVE TO FUND THEN FOLLOW IN SOME OF THOSE RULES, MAYBE THOSE THAT ARE COUNTER TO THEIR, THEIR ULTIMATE MISSION.
BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY, DOESN'T OBLIGATE US TO ANY, UM, CBD CDBG MONEY OR GENERAL FUND MONEY AT THIS POINT.
SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT AT A LATER DATE IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
WHAT QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL, MAYBE I'LL PIPE IN.
I LOOKING AT THE DRAFT ORDINANCE, THE REVIEW WITHOUT ACTUALLY TAKE A LOOK AT OPERATIONAL STANDARDS, AS WELL AS A MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THE USE OF THE FACILITIES.
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AT THAT POINT, A STAFF COULD BE LOOKING AT, UM, HOW THE PROPONENT, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNER IS PROPOSING TO CONDUCT THESE ACTIVITIES AND SHOULD GIVE US AN ABILITY TO BRING UP ISSUES RELATED TO SAFETY OF THE OCCUPANTS.UH, THOSE THAT ARE NEEDING THE HOUSING, UM, INCLUDING SAFETY FROM THOSE THAT MAY BE ABUSING DRUGS OR ALCOHOL IN THAT, ON THAT PROPERTY.
AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO BE THEIR PROPERTY.
AND AS PASTOR SLADE MENTIONED, UH, THEY DON'T ALL ALCOHOL.
THEY DON'T CONDONE THE ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE AND THEY WOULD PROBABLY SCREEN THESE PEOPLE ON THEIR OWN BASED ON, UH, WHAT AVAILABILITY THEY HAVE THERE FOR SHELTERS.
I APOLOGIZE IF IT'S SLIP PICKING, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REALLY DISCUSS ALL THESE ISSUES BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.
I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION FOR PASTOR SLATE.
HOW ARE YOU? THANKS FOR JOINING US.
UM, AND I BELIEVE WE'VE GONE OVER THIS, BUT JUST SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S MADE PUBLIC, YOUR INTENTION PARTNERING WITH AMICUS GROUP IS TO BEGIN OFFERING THIS TO, I THINK MAYOR WELLS MENTIONED IT, BUT IT'S OFFERED TO WOMEN AND CHILDREN FIRST, UM, FOR THIS KIND OF BETA TEST FIRST YEAR OR TWO, UH, SEEK OUT ALCOHOL RESIDENTS SPECIFICALLY, IF THAT'S THE PRIORITY, IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH.
THE PRIORITY IS WOMEN WITH CHILDREN, ALCOHOL RESIDENTS, AND PREFERABLY VETERANS.
SO IT'S VERY NARROW BECAUSE AS WE, WE SEE OURSELVES AS PARTNERING WITH THE CITY AND THESE ARE, THESE ARE CITY RESIDENTS THAT WERE MEANING TO HELP AND LOOKING TO HELP.
SO, YOU KNOW, NOT TO BE A BURDEN ON THE CITY, BUT TO, TO BE, YOU KNOW, PARTNERING WITH THE CITY TO GIVE THEM THAT BRIDGE TO PERMANENT COUNSEL.
UM, IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE IN A CHANCE TO JUMP IN.
SO I'M GOING TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ASK ANGELA IF ANYBODY HAS ANY COMMENTS THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE.
THIRD, WE RECEIVED 26 COMMENTS.
SO THE F THE FIRST ONE IS FROM JEFF DAMES AND HE WRITES, I URGE YOU TO VOTE.
ON AGENDA ITEM 15, THE ZONING AMENDMENTS TO ALLOW EMERGENCY HOUSING AND EMERGENCY SLEEPING CABINS.
I SUPPORT AN EMERGENCY HOUSING PILOT PROGRAM AT MERIDIAN BAPTIST CHURCH, A SAFE LOCATION WITH EXTRA SPACE AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES ONSITE.
NEXT COMMENT FROM PATRINA BRANCH.
I AM WRITING TO URGE YOU TO VOTE.
YES, THIS TUESDAY, AUGUST 11, REGARDING AGENDA ITEM 15, THE SONY AMENDMENTS TO ALLOW EMERGENCY HOUSING AND EMERGENCY SLEEPING CABINS IN THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.
I WANT TO SEE AN EMERGENCY HOUSING PROJECT PROGRAM AT MERIDIAN BAPTIST CHURCH, A SAFE LOCATION WITH EXTRA SPACE AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES ON SITE.
HOMELESSNESS IS A PROBLEM AND ALCOHOL, THE COUNTY AND THE STATE, IT IS NOT BEING ADDRESSED ADEQUATELY.
THIS PILOT PROGRAM WILL HELP AVERT A VERY VULNERABLE POPULATION, HOMELESS WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
PLEASE PRESENT MY OPINION WHEN YOU CAST YOUR VOTE ON TUESDAY AND VOTE.
I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND COMPASSION AND HELPING THOSE WHO TRULY NEED IT.
THIS TUESDAY, AUGUST 11 REGARDING AGENDA ITEM 15, THE SUNNING AMENDMENTS TO ALLOW EMERGENCY HOUSING AND EMERGENCY SLEEPING CABINS IN THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.
WE WANT TO SEE AN EMERGENCY HOUSING PILOT PROGRAM AT MERIDIAN BAPTIST CHURCH, A SAFE LOCATION WITH EXTRA SPACE AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES ONSITE.
I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY AND THOSE WHO RESIDE HERE.
WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HOMELESSNESS IN OUR CITY THAT IS NOT BEING ADDRESSED AS A COMMUNITY.
WE NEED TO START WORKING TO GET OUR HOMELESS RESIDENTS OFF THE STREET, STARTING WITH OUR CITY'S MOST VULNERABLE POPULATION, HOMELESS CHILDREN, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN.
WHEN YOU CAST A VOTE ON TUESDAY AND VOTE, YES, I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORTING COMPASSION AND HELPING THOSE WHO TRULY NEED IT FROM CAROL HUNTSMAN.
PLEASE ALLOW EMERGENCY HOUSING AND EMERGENCY SLEEPING CABINS IN OKLAHOMA.
GET HOMELESS PEOPLE, SAFE, A SAFE PLACE TO SLEEP.
NOW DUE TO THE LOSS OF JOBS, ESPECIALLY IN THE EMERGENCY SITUATION.
NOW WITH VIRUS EMERGENCY WEATHER JAIRUS EMERGENCY ON TOP OF OTHER ECONOMIC AND MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS COSTING HOMELESS.
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THE NEXT, UH, CARD SUBMITTED DOES NOT HAVE A NAME, BUT IT SAYS, PLEASE SUPPORT EMERGENCY SLEEPING CABINS.I HAVE SEEN THE GREAT WORK OF AMICUS TO BRING ABOUT AN EXCELLENT RESOURCE FOR HOUSING.
THIS IS ESPECIALLY NEEDED NOW.
AND THE HARD WORK THAT AMICUS HAS PUT INTO THIS EXCELLENT WAY TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR THOSE WHO NEED IT.
THE SERVES APPROVAL FROM JEANETTE POETRY.
UH, I ASKED ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SUPPORT AMICUS, EMERGENCY SLEEPING, KEVIN PILOT PROD PROJECT.
THIS IS A CREATIVE GRASSROOTS SOLUTION TO ONE OF OUR MOST ENDURING AND CHALLENGING PROBLEMS. PLEASE VOTE TO PERMIT THE PILOT PROJECT TO GO FORWARD FROM THE SECOND I BELIEVE THIS LADY IS SUBMITTED TO FROM CAROL HUNTSMAN, PLEASE SUPPORT AMENDMENTS TO TITUS TITLES, 13 AND 17.
PLEASE SUPPORT EMERGENCY CABINS AND EMERGENCY HOUSING.
I DO NOT LIVE IN OKLAHOMA, BUT I HAVE 10 FAMILY MEMBERS WHO LIVE THERE.
MY NAME IS ELLEN STONE, AND I AM SUBMITTING THIS COMMENT TO URGE YOU TO VOTE.
YES, THIS TUESDAY, AUGUST SEVEN, REGARDING AUGUST 11TH REGARDING AGENDA ITEM 15, THE STONING AMENDMENTS TO ALLOW EMERGENCY HOUSING AND EMERGENCY SLEEPING CABINS IN THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.
WE WANT TO SEE AN EMERGENCY HOUSING PILOT PROGRAM AT MERIDIAN BAPTIST CHURCH, A SAFE LOCATION WITH EXTRA SPACE AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES ONSITE.
I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY AND THOSE WHO RESIDE THERE.
WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HOMELESSNESS IN OUR CITY THAT IS NOT BEING ADDRESSED AS A COMMUNITY.
WE NEED TO START WORKING TO GET OUR HOMELESS RESIDENTS OFF THE STREETS, STARTING WITH OUR CITY'S MOST VULNERABLE POPULATION, HOMELESS CHILDREN.
WHEN YOU CAST YOUR VOTE ON TUESDAY FROM I IRON CODY HARRISON, DEAR COUNCIL MEMBERS.
MY NAME IS CODY HARRISON, AND I'M WRITING YOU TO URGE YOU TO VOTE.
YES, THIS TUESDAY, AUGUST 11, REGARDING AGENDA ITEM 15, THE SONY AMENDMENTS TO ALLOW EMERGENCY HOUSING AND EMERGENCY SLEEPING CABINS IN THE CITY.
WE WANT TO SEE EMERGENCY HOUSING PILOT PROGRAM AT MERIDIAN BAPTIST CHURCH, A SAFE LOCATION WITH EXTRA SPACE AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES ON SITE.
I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY AND THOSE RECITE HERE.
WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HOMELESSNESS IN OUR CITY THAT IS NOT BEING ADDRESSED AS A COMMUNITY.
WE NEED TO START WORKING TO GET OUR HOMELESS RESIDENTS OFF THE STREETS, STARTING WITH OUR CITY'S MOST VULNERABLE POPULATION, HOMELESS WOMEN AND CHILDREN, EMERGENCY SLEEPING CABINS ARE NOT AN IDEAL SOLUTION, BUT THEY ARE VERY BENEFICIAL, SHORT TERM SOLUTION TO GET PEOPLE A SAFE PLACE TO SLEEP AND STORE SOME BELONGINGS WHILE SOCIAL SERVICES WORK, TO FIND THEM PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
WE NEED TO USE ALL THE POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS IN THE TOOLBOX TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
PLEASE REPRESENT MY OPINION WHEN YOU COWS CASTOR VOID ON TUESDAY AND VOTE YES.
FROM, UM, HERB KELLY, I AM WRITING TO YOU IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED CITY OF OKON TEMPORARY STONING CHANGE AGENDA ITEM 15, PASTOR ROLE IN SLATE, THE MERIDIAN CHURCH COMMUNITY, AND AMICA STAND UNITED IN SUPPORT OF THE ESTABLISHMENT CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATION OF A SMALL SIX KEVIN VILLAGE ON THE MERIDIAN CHURCH CAMPUS.
THIS SLEEPING CABIN VILLAGE WILL REFER, REFLECT THE AMICUS MISSION WORKING SO THAT EVERY WOMAN AND CHILD HAS A SAFE PLACE TO LIVE.
WE ESPECIALLY WANT TO PROVIDE A SAFE PLACE FOR HOMELESS VETERAN WOMEN TO SLEEP.
THE PROPOSED VILLAGE AT MERIDIAN IS ON A COMPLETELY FENCE SITE WITH GATES THAT ARE LOCKED AT NIGHT, THERE WILL BE ONSITE SECURITY PROVIDED BY MEMBERS OF THE MERIDIAN CHURCH AND BY RESIDENTS OF THE VILLAGE, MERIDIAN AND AMICA HAS DEVELOPED A RESIDENT CODE OF CONDUCT BY REVIEWING FIRST WHAT THE MERIDIAN COMMUNITY WOULD SUPPORT.
WE FOLLOWED THAT REVIEW WELL BY SITE VISITS BY THREE AMICA BOARD MEMBERS TO ESTABLISH LEAPING CABIN VILLAGES IN THE SEATTLE AND PORTLAND AREAS, INTERVIEWS WITH BOTH VILLAGES, MANAGERS AND RESIDENTS WERE CONDUCTED TO WHAT RULES WORK AND WHAT DID NOT.
AND THESE LONG ESTABLISHED SLEEPING CABIN VILLAGES, MERIDIAN PRESENTS AS A CURE CHURCH CONTROL AND SUPPORTIVE ENVIRONMENT.
FOOD SERVICE CAN BE SUPPLIED BY THE CHURCH COMMUNITY USING EXISTING FACILITIES.
RESTROOMS ALREADY EXIST NEXT TO THE PROPOSAL VILLAGE SHOWERS CAN BE BROUGHT IN LIKE THE DIGNITY AND DUARTE NONPROFITS HAVE BEEN DOING ON A SCHEDULE BASIS.
AMICUS HAS PREPARED TO REPURPOSE A TOILET STALL IN AN EXISTING BATHROOM.
AS A TEMPORARY SHOWER, SPECIAL SERVICES WILL BE PROVIDED BY ESTABLISHED OKLAHOMA PROVIDERS.
WE ARE IN THIS FOR LONGTERM SUCCESS IN TRANSITIONING, HOMELESS PEOPLE INTO PERMANENT HOUSING.
I SUPPORT EMERGENCY HOUSING TO KEEP PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS
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AND IN SAFE SANITARY HOUSING, PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING AND VOTE TO APPROVE TINY HOMES SO THAT ALL PEOPLE IN IT HAVE ACCESS TO DIGNITY AND SAFETY.YES, THIS TUESDAY, AUGUST 11, REGARDING AGENDA ITEM 15, THE STONING AMENDMENTS TO ALLOW EMERGENCY HOUSING AND EMERGENCY SLEEPING CABINS IN THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.
WE WANT TO SEE AN EMERGENCY HOUSING HIGHLIGHT PROGRAM AND MERIDIAN BAPTIST CHURCH, A SAFE LOCATION WITH EXTRA SPACE AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES ONSITE.
I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY AND THOSE WHO RESIDE HERE.
WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HOMELESSNESS IN OUR CITY THAT IS NOT BEING ADDRESSED AS A COMMUNITY.
WE NEED TO START WORKING TO GET OUR HOMELESS RESIDENTS OFF THE STREETS, STARTING WITH OUR CITY'S MOST VULNERABLE POPULATION, HOMELESS WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
WHEN YOU CAST YOUR VOTE ON TUESDAY AND VOTE.
FROM GEORGE G. KELLY, I LIVE IN OKLAHOMA AND I'M CALLING TO URGE YOU TO VOTE.
YES, THIS TUESDAY, AUGUST 11TH, REGARDING AGENDA ITEM 15, THE ZONING AMENDMENTS TO ALLOW EMERGENCY HOUSING AND EMERGENCY SLEEPING CABINS IN THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.
I LIVE IN OKLAHOMA AND STRONGLY BELIEVE THIS PROJECT WOULD GREATLY BENEFIT OUR STRUGGLING HOMELESS WOMEN, INCLUDING VETERAN WOMEN AND CHILDREN HERE.
I WISH TO SEE AN EMERGENCY HOUSING PILOT PROGRAM AT MERIDIAN BAPTIST CHURCH, A SAFE LOCATION WITH EXTRA SPACE AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES ON SITE.
THIS PROPOSED VILLAGE AND MERIDIAN IS AN ALL COMPLETELY FENCE SITE WITH GATES THAT ARE LOCKED AT NIGHT.
AND THEY HAVE, THERE WILL BE AN ONSITE SECURITY PROVIDED BY THE CHURCH MEMBERS AND RESIDENTS WHOSE SERVICE CAN BE SUPPLIED BY THE CHURCH COMMUNITY.
USING EXISTING FACILITIES, RESTROOMS ALREADY EXIST NEXT TO THE PROPOSED VILLAGE.
SHOWERS CAN BE BROUGHT IN BY THE DIGNITY AND DWANA NONPROFITS HAVE BEEN DOING ON A SCHEDULE BASIS.
AMICA IS PREPARED TO REPURPOSE A TOILET STALL IN AN EXISTING BATHROOM.
SOCIAL SOCIAL SERVICES WILL ALSO BE PROVIDED BY ESTABLISHED OKLAHOMA PROVIDERS.
I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND COMPASSION IN HELPING THOSE WHO TRULY NEED IT AND BELIEVE THAT THIS WILL BE A STEP IN DECREASING ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES AND ENCAMPMENTS IN OKLAHOMA.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
UM, THE NEXT COMMON IS BONNIE FAR ENOUGH AND IT READS, I URGE YOU TO VOTE.
YES THIS AFTERNOON ON ITEM 15 REGARDING SENDING AMENDMENTS TO ALLOW EMERGENCY HOUSING AND EMERGENCY SLEEPING CABINS IN THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA AS A RESIDENT OF A NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY AND NATIVE SAN DIEGO.
WHEN I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT EAST COUNTY AND THOSE WHO RESIDE HERE AS A REGION, WE NEED TO CONTINUE WORKING TOGETHER TO GET OUR HOMELESS RESIDENTS OFF THE STREET, STARTING WITH ONE OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS, HOMELESS WOMEN AND CHILDREN, THE EMERGENCY HOUSING PILOT PROGRAM AT MERIDIAN, A SAFE LOCATION WITH EXTRA SPACE AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES ON SITE WILL BE APPRECIATED BY ALL.
PLEASE REPRESENT MY OPINION WHEN YOU CAST YOUR VOTE TODAY AND VOTE.
THE NEXT COMMENT IS FROM, UH, GAVIN IRELAND.
UM, MY NAME IS GAVIN IRELAND, AND I'M CALLING TO URGE YOU TO VOTE.
YES, THIS TUESDAY REGARDING ITEM 15, THE STONING AMENDMENTS TO ALLOW EMERGENCY HOUSING AND EMERGENCY SLEEPING CABINS IN OKLAHOMA.
WE WANT TO SEE AN EMERGENCY HOUSING PILOT AT MERIDIAN BAPTIST CHURCH, A SAFE LOCATION WITH EXTRA SPACE AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES ON SITE.
AS A COMMUNITY, WE NEED TO START WORKING TO GET OUR HOMELESS RESIDENTS OFF THE STREETS, STARTING WITH OUR SITTINGS.
MOST FONDLY REPOPULATION HOMELESS WOMEN AND CHILDREN.
PLEASE REPRESENT MY OPINION WHEN YOU CAST YOUR VOTE ON TUESDAY AND VOTE.
YES, THE NEXT ONE IS FROM EVIE COSO CROSSOVER.
MY NAME IS
I AM WRITING TO ASK YOU TO APPROVE THE TEMPORARY STONE CHANGE AS PRESENTED IN ITEM 15.
TODAY, THIS WILL ENABLE AMICUS AND THE MERIDIAN BAPTIST CHURCH UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF PASTOR ROLAND SLATE TO CONTINUE OUR EFFORTS TO BUILD A SMALL CABIN VILLAGE ON THE CHURCH PROPERTY.
WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH PASTOR SLADE AND HIS CHURCH MEMBERS TO ESTABLISH AN EXEMPLARY PILOT VILLAGE FOR WOMEN AND CHILDREN WHO ARE WITHOUT SHELTER.
AMICUS HAS EXPERIENCE WITH THIS GROUP AND HAS INVESTIGATED OTHER VILLAGES OF THIS SORT.
IN OTHER CITIES, WE WILL WORK WITH RESIDENTS OF THE VILLAGE AND THE COMMUNITY TO KEEP THEM SAFE, WELL SERVICE AND INTEGRATED INTO THE COMMUNITY WHILE THEY ARE SEEKING PERMANENT HOUSING.
WE SEE THIS AS A QUICK INEXPENSIVE AND MOST, MOST HUMAN SOLUTION TO MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE MOST VULNERABLE OF THOSE CURRENTLY ON THE STREETS.
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COMMENT, SHAWNA WELSH LIVING, AND SHE WRITES THANK YOU TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR PROPOSING THIS TEMPORARY STONING CHANGE, ALLOWING A PILOT PROJECT FOR THE PLACEMENT OF TINY HOUSES ON SUITABLE PROPERTIES AS POTENTIAL HOMELESS HOUSING.THANK YOU FOR THE, TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR YOUR TIME.
AND CONSIDERING THIS PROPOSAL, I AM THE PRECEDENT OF AMICA IS A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.
WE ARE READY TO BUILD SIX EMERGENCY SLEEPING CABINS FOR A PILOT PROJECT AT MERIDIAN BAPTIST CHURCH.
THIS FORM OF BRIDGE HOUSING WILL BE VIABLE AND SUCCESSFUL TEMPORARY OPTION TO HELP SOME OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION FIND THE SAFETY SHELTER, HEALTH, AND AUTONOMY.
THEY NEED TO GET BACK ON THEIR FEET.
THIS UNIQUE FORM OF HOUSING WILL HELP.
SOME OF THE HOMELESS POPULATION TAKE THE STEPS NECESSARY TO FIND MORE SUITABLE PERMANENT HOUSING.
MERIDIAN IS AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION IN THAT THEY ARE ALREADY SERVING MANY HOMELESS CITIZENS OF ALCOHOL ON A REGULAR BASIS.
THE CHURCH WANTS TO OFFER MORE.
WE HOPE THE SUCCESS OF THIS PILOT PROGRAM WILL BE REPLICATED THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO IN CONJUNCTION WITH OTHER NONPROFITS, PROPERTY OWNERS AND HOUSING PROVIDERS.
WE EXPECT THE NOVEL CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC WILL CAUSE AN INCREASE IN HOMELESSNESS AND MUCH OF THE RESULTING NEW HOMELESS POPULATION WILL BE CITIZENS WHO WERE PAYING RENT UNTIL THEY LOST THEIR JOBS OR HAD TO TRADE WORK HOURS FOR CHILDCARE HOURS WITH DAYCARE CLOSE IN THE COMING MONTHS, WE HOPE TO BUILD TEMPORARY BRIDGE HOUSING TO HELP HOMELESS WOMEN AND CHILDREN FIND SAFE PLACES TO LIVE.
I ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS AGENDA ITEM.
UM, WE ARE COMMENT NUMBER 18 FROM SHEILA.
DEAR MEMBERS OF THE OKLAHOMA CITY COUNCIL.
I AM WRITING TO REQUEST YOUR URGENT ASSISTANCE IN VOTING.
ON AGENDA ITEM 15 STONING AMENDMENT, ALLOWING EMERGENCY HOUSING AND EMERGENCY SLEEPING CABINS IN THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.
I WANT TO SEE THE EMERGENCY HOUSING PILOT PROGRAM AT MERIDIAN BAPTIST CHURCH THAT WOULD ADDRESS, SUPPORT OUR HOMELESS AND PROVIDE A SAFE LOCATION WITH ONSITE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.
SO YOUR SUPPORT WILL MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE FOR MANY THANK YOU.
NEXT YEAR, THE COMMENT IS FROM A FAMOUS, PROVIDE THEIR NAME.
UM, I AM HAPPY TO SEE THAT COUNCIL IS GOING THROUGH WITH THIS PROJECT.
WHEN WE, AS A SOCIETY, NO LONGER CARE FOR OUR FELLOW, MAN, WE WILL START TO BREAK DOWN.
THE THREE BASIC THINGS WE NEED IN LIFE, FOOD, CLOTHING, AND SHELTER.
THIS PROJECT WILL GIVE SOME, GIVE SOME PEOPLE A CHANCE TO GET BACK ON THEIR FEET PROJECTS, SUCH AS THIS HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN PLACES LIKE DETROIT, KANSAS, LOS ANGELES, SEATTLE, AND SO MANY OTHER CITIES AROUND THE UNITED STATES.
THIS TYPE OF COMMUNITY MAY BECOME THE NORM AND THE PRICE OF RANK CONTINUES TO RAISE.
SO IT'S THAT ALCOHOL HAS NO RENT CONTROL FOR ANY TYPE OF PROPERTIES OR LAND THAT MAKES IT TO WHERE PROPERTY OWNERS CAN CHARGE WHATEVER THEY LIKE FOR RENT, WHICH IN TURN BRINGS ABOUT THE GREAT POSSIBILITY OF PEOPLE BECOMING HOMELESS.
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THIS PROJECT WOULD BE HELPING VETERANS, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN.
THESE PEOPLE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET BACK ON THEIR FEET AGAIN, AND THIS COULD BE A LIFE CHANGING EXPERIENCE FOR THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES.
I DON'T SEE HOW ANYONE COULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH PROJECT.
IT'S A WIN WIN, NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT, NEXT COMMENT.
AND WE HAVE SIX MORE COMMENTS IS FROM DIANE SIGNIFOR.
YES, THIS TUESDAY REGARDING AGENDA ITEM 15, THE STONING AMENDMENTS TO ALLOW EMERGENCY HOUSING AND EMERGENCY SLEEPING CABINS.
I WANT TO SEE AN EMERGENCY HOUSING PILOT PROGRAM AT MERIDIAN BAPTIST CHURCH.
WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HOMELESSNESS IN OUR CITY THAT IS NOT BEING ADDRESSED AS A COMMUNITY.
WE NEED TO START WORKING TO GET OUR HOMELESS RESIDENTS OFF THE STREET.
PLEASE REPRESENT MY OPINION WHEN YOU CAST YOUR VOTE ON TUESDAY AND VOTE.
NEXT COMMENT FROM ROBERT BIRD.
I AM WRITING YOU TO, SO IN SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED CITY OF OKLAHOMA, TEMPORARY ZONING CHANGE, AMICUS WANTS TO BE A PARTNER WITH MERIDIAN BAPTIST CHURCH AND THE CITY AND LEADING INNOVATIVE STRATEGIES TO REDUCE THOSE LIVING IN HOMELESSNESS.
WE ARE IN THIS LONGTERM SUCCESS WITH YOUR SUPPORT.
THANK YOU FOR STEPPING UP TO SHOW THE RESIDENTS OF OKLAHOMA.
WHAT BOLD LEADERSHIP CAN LOOK LIKE NEXT COMMENT FROM LISA KOGAN.
UM, BUT A BOARD MEMBER OF AMICUS, I AM URGING YOU TO VOTE.
REGARDING AGENDA ITEM 15, TO ALLOW THE EMERGENCY HOUSING PILOT PROGRAM AT MERIDIANS BAPTIST CHURCH, WHILE WE WAIT HER MUCH NEEDED PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, PEOPLE ARE DYING ON THE STREETS.
OUR INNOVATIVE SOLUTION IS AN IMMEDIATE AND TEMPORARY OPTION THAT CAN HELP WITH OUR HOMELESS CRISIS IN THE CITY WITH
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SAN DIEGO COUNTY, HAVING THE FIFTH LARGEST HOMELESS POPULATION IN THE U S WE HAVE NO TIME TO WAIT AND MUST THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX TO GET OUR MOST VULNERABLE HOMELESS WOMEN AND CHILDREN OFF THE STREETS, ESPECIALLY WANT TO PROVIDE A SAFE PLACE FOR HOMELESS VETERAN WOMEN TO SLEEP.YES, TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION, A SOLUTION WHERE WOMEN AND CHILDREN CAN BE SAFE.
UM, AND IT INCLUDES SUPPORTIVE SERVICES TO GET BACK ON THEIR FEET AND BECOME CONTRIBUTING MEMBERS OF SOCIETY.
I'LL GO HOME, LET'S DO THE RIGHT THING.
ALL PEOPLE DESERVE TO HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO SLEEP.
AND WE HAVE THREE MORE, FOUR MORE COMMENTS.
THE NEXT ONE IS FROM MARTHA LOU HAHN, PLEASE VOTE.
ON EMERGENCY SLEEPING CABINS FOR THE HOMELESS MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
I'D LIKE TO COMMENT, UM, ON AN ITEM I AM IN SUPPORT OF THE TINY HOUSE SLEEPING CABINS PROJECT PROPOSED BY, BY THE MERIDIUM BAPTIST CHURCH.
I BELIEVE THIS IS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO HOUSE THE, AND GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A PLACE OF THEIR OWN AND GET THEM ON THEIR FEET AND OFF THE STREET.
UM, LET ME SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THIS IS, I WILL READ IT THAT, UH, IT SAYS THAT I WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PUBLICLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT TIME AND AN ANONYMOUS VOTE ON THE CRISIS HOUSE RELOCATION PLAN, AGREEING TO GIVE US THE ADDITIONAL THREE MONTHS TO VACATE THE MAGNOLIA PROPERTY, UM, FROM MARY KAY AND, UM, ACTUALLY, SIR, THAT'S THE LAST COMMENT.
UM, I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING THEN MAYOR WELFARE VOTE.
COUNCIL MEMBER KENDRICK AND COUNCIL MEMBER OF MCCLELLAN.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
WELL, GENTLEMEN, UM, IT'S SO PREFERRED DISCUSSION OR I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE EMOTIONAL SORT OF LIKE TO MAKE ONE.
I HAVE, UH, I HAVEN'T ACTUALLY THOUGHT OF A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS AND, UH, WITH REGARD TO IT, I DON'T KNOW IF PASTOR SLATE IS STILL ON.
I THINK HIS PICTURE WENT AWAY, BUT YEAH.
UM, SO WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? DO YOU HAVE A PRO PROGRAM OR PLAN ALREADY DEVELOPED WITH AMIE CUSS, OR ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE ANY INPUT WITH REGARD TO THE TYPE OF PROGRAMMING THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTED WITH THIS PILOT PROGRAM? WELL, UH WE'RE YES, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE INPUT AND WE HAVE NOT DESIGNED THE PROGRAM COMPLETELY.
WE'RE, YOU KNOW, STILL TALKING WITH THE PROVIDERS IN OUR COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, HOMESTART, UM, MARY KAY IS AT CRISIS HOUSE.
WE WANT TO DO, YOU KNOW, GET THE BEST OF THE BEST TO PUT IT TOGETHER SO THAT IT WILL BE LIKE I SAY, A SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM.
SO WE, WE HAVEN'T DESIGNED IT COMPLETELY.
THAT'S WHY WE WELCOME ALSO THE, THE PARAMETERS OR THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
AND SO, SO, SO YOU PERSONALLY, OR SOMEONE FROM MERIDIAN BAPTIST, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME INPUT IN I'M GOING TO BE SITTING AT THE TABLE.
THAT'S I'M GOING TO BE FITTING IN.
YOU'RE A GREAT NEIGHBOR AND YOU HAVE BEEN A, AN EXCELLENT COMMUNITY MEMBER IN THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.
AND I GUESS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T FEEL 100% COMFORTABLE PUSHING THIS OUT TO EVERY ORGANIZATION IN THE WORLD TO COME TO ALCOHOL AND, AND OPEN UP TINY HOUSES IN THE CITY.
BUT, UM, I FEEL KNOWING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE AT THE TABLE, UM, UH, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME INPUT AND DIRECTION IT'S GOING TO BE ON YOUR PROPERTY BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY.
UM, WE KNOW HOW YOUR OFF YOU OPERATE YOU.
YOU'RE A FANTASTIC COMMUNITY MEMBER AND NEIGHBOR TO, TO YOUR COMMUNITY.
IT GIVES ME CONFIDENCE TO, TO, TO APPROVE AND SUPPORT, UH, THIS PILOT PROGRAM.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE INTO, TO, TO DISCUSSING THIS YET, BUT, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO, IF WE'RE, IF THIS IS GOING TO BE OPEN TO OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE ORDINANCE BE CHANGED, TO HAVE SOME KIND OF REVIEW, AT LEAST AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION LEVEL, IF NOT THE, THE, UH,
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THE CITY COUNCIL LEVEL.SO WE CAN MORE OR LESS BE GATEKEEPERS AND KNOW WHAT TYPE OF ORGANIZATIONS ARE COMING INTO THE CITY.
AND WE CAN REVIEW THEIR PROGRAM.
I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY HAS A ROLE IN MENTIONED HALF A DOZEN ORGANIZATIONS THAT THE CITY ALREADY WORKS WITH.
I'M SURE HE'S GOING TO TALK WITH PASTOR HAROLD BROWN OVER AT AC TOC AND PROBABLY A D THEY HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP AND USED TLC HAS A GREAT PROGRAM, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME KIND OF ABILITY FOR THE COUNCIL TO, TO REVIEW THE PLANS.
SO WE CAN MORE OR LESS BE GOOD GATEKEEPERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE GONNA BE AS GOOD OR EVEN BETTER NEIGHBORS THAT PASTOR ROLAND IS.
UM, SO THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD BE MY, MY INPUT.
I'LL, I'LL SAY SOME COMMENTS SO OTHER PEOPLE CAN WEIGH IN ANYBODY ELSE.
I'LL JUMP IN, UH, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL OF THIS PROGRAM IS REALLY NOT TO, UH, WELL, THE GOAL OF THE PROGRAM IS TO SHOW ALL THE COMMUNITIES AND THE COUNTY, THE VALUE OF THIS PROGRAM.
AND I THINK ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT THE CITY OF ALCOHOLISM IS THAT WE HAVE FOR MANY YEARS FOUND GREAT PARTNERS IN THE CITY TO RUN PROGRAMS LIKE THIS.
AND IT, IT IS A GREAT PARTNERSHIP.
AND CERTAINLY PASTOR ROLAND AND AMICUS THEY'RE HIGH QUALITY PARTNERS, UH, PASTOR ROLAND IS ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, A REGIONAL TASK FORCE FOR THE HOMELESS.
I BELIEVE THAT'S STILL TRUE, ISN'T IT, PASTOR? YES, IT IS.
SO HE'S GOT GREAT RELATIONSHIPS AND THEY'RE GREAT RESOURCES TO MAKE THIS THING WORK.
IT'S NOT AN AMICUS HAS EXPERIENCE IN PUTTING THESE THINGS TOGETHER.
STRUCTURALLY THESE ARE HIGH QUALITY STRUCTURES, WHICH PROVIDES SAFETY AND DIGNITY TO THOSE WHO ARE AFFECTED.
THESE ARE STRUCTURES THAT CAN MEET OTHER BRIDGE FROM SLEEPING IN A CAR TO PERMANENT HOUSING.
AND I GUESS WITH THAT, MY TIME IS UP.
NO, I THINK I'VE MADE MY POINTS.
THESE ARE THE RIGHT PARTNERS AND ACCOUNTS MEDIUM RIGHT NOW, AND WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD.
WELL THEN, UM, SO WE, WE WILL NEED TWO MOTIONS.
UM, YOU HAVE TO HAVE ONE OF AMENDS TITLE 17, AND THERE'S ANOTHER, UH, TO ADOPT APPENDIX, OH, IF SOMEBODY IS READY TO MAKE THOSE MOTIONS, I'D BE GLAD TO HEAR ONE OF THE TIME.
I'D LIKE TO, UM, AMEND THE RECOMMENDATION INSTEAD OF IT BEING APPROVED AT THE STAFF LEVEL, I'D LIKE TO, UM, HAVE IT BE APPROVED AT A COUNCIL MEETING, JUST, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL IS APPROVING THESE ORGANIZATIONS.
AND IF, AND IF ANOTHER GROUP COMES IN IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO, I THINK THE COUNCIL, IT'S A BIG MOVE TO HAVE THE CITY DO THESE THINGS.
AND SO I, I WOULD LIKE FOR IT COUNCIL TO, TO HAVE TO APPROVE, UM, I DON'T KNOW, STAFF, CAN YOU WEIGH IN ON THIS AND GIVE ME THE LANGUAGE THAT I'M LOOKING FOR? ABSOLUTELY.
IF, UH, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, PROPOSING THAT THE DECISION MAKER BE THE CITY COUNCIL, THEN I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IN YOUR MOTION THAT YOU ALLUDE TO THE CITY COUNCIL BEING THE DECISION MAKER, AND THEN WE'LL MAKE THE REFINEMENTS TO THE PROPOSAL ORDINANCE.
AND SO THAT IT WILL BE STRUCTURED THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
WHEN WE COME BACK FOR THE SECOND READING, LET ME, LET ME JUST POP IN HERE AND, AND MENTION, WE REFER TO IT AS A, AN ADMINISTRATIVE ZONING PERMIT UNDER 1740 OF THE CODE, AND THAT PROVIDES IT, THE DIRECTOR MAY APPROVE, OR THE DIRECTOR MAY REFER TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD ADDRESS IT.
UM, THE HIGHER YOU GET IN THE STEP, THE MORE COST IT'S GOING TO BE BECAUSE YOU'RE STARTING TO PAY FOR PERMIT FEES.
AND I THINK THE INTENT THAT THE COUNCIL HAD WAS THAT THESE BE QUICK AND THEY'D BE, UH, UH COST-EFFECTIVE SO THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THESE OUT THERE AND MOVING THEM ALONG.
IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT YOU'RE THERE, IT'S A BAD IDEA TO MOVE IT TO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
AND JUST WANTED TO THROW THAT OUT THERE.
SO YOU UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF USING CHAPTER 1740 AS OPPOSED TO GOING INTO A MINOR USE PERMIT OR, OR EVEN A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT PROCESS.
LET ME WEIGH IN FOR A SECOND ON THIS AND MAYBE MORGAN, THIS IS A QUESTION FOR YOU.
WE'RE, WE'RE SORT OF DRAFTING POLICY ON THE, ON THE DIETS RIGHT NOW, BUT, UM, MORGAN COULD THE POWER OF THE, OR THE AUTHORITY OF THE LAND USE.
WE REMAIN WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR,
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BUT THE COUNCIL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SIGN OFF ON THE OPERATION PLAN, AND THAT WOULD GET THAT NAME STREAMLINED INTO BID, BUT WE GIVE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE, THE OVERSIGHT OF THE AREAS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT, OR IS THAT JUST REDUNDANT? WELL, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY REDUNDANT.THEY, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE IDEA WITH TITLE 17 IS TO DEAL WITH THE LAND USE ISSUES AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, OPERATION ISSUES ANYWAY.
UM, BUT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE LAND THEY USE, THE LAND IS GOING TO BE, UH, COMPATIBLE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE GET INTO OPERATIONAL.
UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW WE WOULD STRUCTURE THAT MR. MITCHELL, AND A SENSE OF WHERE COUNCIL IN A SENSE OF, UH, APPLICATIONS AND HOW THEY GET MOVED ALONG.
IT WOULD TAKE ANOTHER COUPLE OR A MONTH FOR US TO REVISE THIS ORDINANCE.
CAUSE I'M NOT SURE DOING IT ON THE FLY IS GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE TO ANYBODY.
UM, YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO, WE CAN'T EVEN THINK THROUGH WHAT WE WOULD DO MUCH LESS DO IT RIGHT NOW ON THE YELLOW PAD, MR. FOLEY, IF I MIGHT HAVE THE ZONING CODE TITLE, 17 DOES ALLOW THE DIRECTOR TO ELEVATE AN ADMINISTRATIVE PERMIT TO THE NEXT HIGHEST DECISION MAKER.
SO I MAY, UM, ELEVATE THE ACP, UM, TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, YOUR CHOICE WOULD BE TO EITHER APPROVE IT OR TO MOVE IT ONTO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL PLAN COMMISSION DECISIONS ALWAYS COULD BE APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
IT ISN'T, IT'S MORE TIME TO EVERY PROJECT.
EVERY TIME WE HAVE TO SCHEDULE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING INTO THE PLANNING COMMISSION CITY COUNCIL DOES ADD A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO THE DECISION PROCESS.
WHY NOT SKIP THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND JUST GO STRAIGHT TO COUNCIL FOR FINAL APPROVAL? WELL, I'M JUST NOT SURE WHICH KIND OF PERMIT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT AN ACP AND ADMINISTRATIVE ZONING PERMIT.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A MINOR PERMIT.
AND IF IT HAS TO DO WITH LAND USE, YOU'VE GOT TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO JUST SO I CAN ADD SOME COLOR TO MY INTENTION, MY INTENTION ISN'T THAT ISN'T TO STOP THIS I'M IN FULL SUPPORT OF IT.
BUT I THINK THERE HAS TO BE IF WE'RE OPENING IT TO EVERYBODY, THERE HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF, UM, OVERSIGHT WITH REGARD TO COUNCIL OR THE COMMISSION, BECAUSE IT IS A BIG PLAN.
AND IF TOM, IF OUR DIRECTOR OF PLANNING, TONY CHUTE IS ABLE TO ELEVATE IT, I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BE A CHECK IN THE BOX AT ANY ORGANIZATION CAN JUST START BUILDING TINY HOMES ON THEIR PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S PRUDENT AND RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REST OF THE RESIDENTS.
I HAVE A COMMENT, UM, IS THERE, I KNOW THAT WE CAN ALWAYS CALCIUM OR WE CAN ALWAYS PULL A PLANNING COMMISSION ITEM AND READ THE CITY COUNCIL.
UM, I WONDER IF WE COULD HAVE A THING THING WHERE, UH, THE STAFF CAN APPROVE IT AND THEN IT GOES TO THE CITY COUNCIL JUST TO LOOK AT, AND IF WE HAVE A PROBLEM, THEN WE PULL IT.
AND, UM, IF THAT'S THE APPROACH, UM, WE CAN MAKE CARBON AND AN EXCEPTION IN THIS ORDINANCE TO SORT OF TAKE AWAY THE, THE, ANYTHING MORE THAN A RECOMMENDATION BY THE DIRECTOR.
SO IN ESSENCE, BECAUSE CHAPTER 1740 ALLOWS THE DIRECTOR TO MAKE A DECISION OR SEND IT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, IF IT'S YOUR DECISION TO DO SO, PERHAPS WE ADD LANGUAGE IN HERE THAT SAYS THAT NOT WITHSTANDING THAT OPTION A, THAT THE DIRECTOR WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS ONLY CAN MAKE A REFERRAL TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, BUT THEN THEY HAD TO PAY FOR A CONDITIONAL RESPLENDENT ADMINISTRATIVE ZONING PERMIT AND PLACE FOR THIS TO GO.
IN ANY CASE WITH AN ACP, EITHER THE DIRECTOR DECIDES TO MAKE A DECISION OR THE DIRECTOR SAYS, I WANT THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO MAKE THIS DECISION.
IN THIS CASE, YOU COULD COST WITH THIS ORDINANCE.
YOU COULD TAKE AWAY THE OPTION OF THE DIRECTOR, MAKING THAT DECISION INITIALLY AND HAVE IT, UH, AUTOMATICALLY A REFERRAL TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH THAT INCREASES COST.
WELL, NO, WE HAVE A PERMIT FEE FOR ACPS AND ANY KIND OF PUBLIC HEARING COST TO THAT I ASSUME IS, IS BUILT INTO
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THAT FEE.I GUESS I JUST WANT TO ADD A POINT OF VIEW THAT THE COUNCIL HAS KIND OF A POLICY MAKING BODY.
AND ONCE WE START GETTING INTO MANAGEMENT, UH, WE KIND OF, YOU SERVE OR DON'T SHOW FAITH AND THE, THE CITY STAFF TO MAKE THE DECISIONS WHO THEY KNOW THE PHILOSOPHY OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO THAT'S ALWAYS A CONCERN WHEN WE START TO, TO PUSH ASIDE THE PROCESS AND TO, TO TRY TO GET INTO MANAGEMENT.
I THINK I JUST WOULD LIKE, IT'S A VERY NEW IDEA, VERY NEW PROJECT, AND I CAN'T GET AWAY FROM THE IDEA OF WANTING TO KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON IT, I GUESS IS MY INTENTION.
AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A TWO YEAR PROCESS.
I THINK WHEN WE REVIEW IT IN TWO YEARS, IF IT'S SUCCESSFUL, THEN WE CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AND STREAMLINED THINGS AT THAT POINT.
UM, I THINK THAT'S A, A GOOD POINT.
LET ME ASK GRAHAM GRAHAM, YOU FEEL LIKE YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE PRETTY COMFORTABLE AND UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR IN REGARDS TO THIS? I THINK SO.
I THINK MY CONCERN WOULD BE IF THIS WERE NOT GOING TO SUNSET IN TWO YEARS, I WOULD, I WOULD, UM, SEE SOME VALUE IN HAVING A LITTLE BIT MORE OVERSIGHT, BUT THE FACT THAT THERE IS A SUNSET, THIS ISN'T, THIS IS A PILOT PROGRAM.
UM, WE'RE GONNA BE, WE'RE GONNA BE THE COUNCIL KNOW KIND OF ALL OF OUR STEPS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH.
I THINK THE CONCERNS THAT MR ORTIZ'S EXPRESSED, UM, ALTHOUGH I AGREE WITH THEM, I UNDERSTAND WHERE HE'S COMING FROM.
I THINK STAFF WILL DO OUR BEST TO ENSURE THAT COUNCIL CONCERNS ARE HEARD.
UM, AND WE'LL SOCIALIZE ISSUES IF UP, UP THE CHAIN, IF WE ARE CONCERNED.
CAUSE TONY HAS THAT, THAT DISCRETION RIGHT NOW.
I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE CITY MANAGER AND HIS STAFF TO SAY, UH, I WOULD HAVE, IF, IF THERE'S AN ORGANIZATION THAT WAS NOT AS EXPERIENCED AND TRYING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, I BET WE WOULD HEAR ABOUT IT AND HAVE A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN TO THE CITY MANAGER.
ANY CONCERNS BEFORE ANY DECISIONS AND PERMITS WERE ISSUED? YEAH.
THAT I, I, I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION GRAHAM AND I KEEPING US UP TO DATE AND INFORMED ON IF THERE'S ANY MORE ORGANIZATIONS I THINK IS PARAMOUNT AND, AND, UH, I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR ATTENTIVENESS TO IT.
I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE NEXT ORDINANCE.
WHICH HOLDS THE FIRST READING TO A MEN TITLE.
17 SECOND MAYOR WELLS, YOUR VOTE PLEASE.
COUNCIL MEMBER KENDRICK AND COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN.
AND WITH YOUR PERMISSION, SIR, I WILL READ THE TITLE OF THE ORDINANCE AND ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 17 ZONING CODE OF ALCOHOL MUNICIPAL CODE AND ADDING A NEW SECTION 17.22 5.185 TO CHAPTER 17.225, ALLOWING FOR EMERGENCY HOUSING ON SELECT SITES UNDER SPECIFIC CRITERIA.
AND IT ALSO MOTION TO HOLD THE FIRST READING TO ADOPT DEPENDENTS AND TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER EIGHT.
COUNCIL MEMBER KENDRICK COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN.
MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS VOTE.
AND THE TITLE FOR THAT IS AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA ADOPTING BY REFERENCE APPENDIX PO OF THE CALIFORNIA BUILDING CODE TWO ZERO ONE NINE ADDITION TO PROVIDE FOR EMERGENCY HOUSING AND THE CITY OF ALCOHOL.
OH, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THEY PUT INTO THIS,
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AND I WANT TO THANK MERIDIAN BAPTIST CHURCH AND ROLAND SLADE FOR OFFERING TO FUND THE PROJECT AND USE THEIR PROPERTY.I THINK IT'S ADMIRABLE AND I'M HOPING TO SEE GREAT THINGS.
[16. Parkway Plaza Self Storage - Proposed Amendment to Specific Plan No. 19, Conditional Use Permit No. 2019-0010, and Development Agreement. RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council: Opens the Public Hearing and receives testimony; Closes the Public Hearing; Moves to adopt the next Resolution, in order, approving the California Environmental Quality Act Exemption; Moves to adopt the next Resolution, in order, approving Amendment to Specific Plan No. 19; Moves to adopt the next Resolution, in order, approving Conditional Use Permit No. 2019-0010; and Moves to adopt the next Resolution, in order, authorizing the City Manager to execute and deliver a Development Agreement with Seritage Growth Properties, Inc.]
LAST PUBLIC HEARING ON TODAY'S AGENDA IS ITEM 16 REGARDING PARKWOOD PLAZA, SELF STORAGE STAFF.WOULD YOU TELL US ABOUT THIS PLEASE? OKAY.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, GO PARKWAY PLAZA.
A PERSONAL STORAGE FACILITY INVOLVES THE AMENDMENT OF SPECIFIC PLAN NUMBER 19 TO ALLOW A PERSONAL STORAGE FACILITY WITH AN APPROVED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AT FIVE SEVEN FIVE FLETCHER PARKWAY.
THE REQUEST IS TO OCCUPY THE EXISTING 70,475 SQUARE FOOT BASEMENT SPACE USED BY THE PREVIOUS TENANT.
THE REQUEST ALSO INCLUDES TWO GROUND LEVELS, STOREFRONT ENTRANCES TO BE USE AS OFFICE SPACE AND ELEVATOR ACCESS TO THE BASEMENT FOR CUSTOMERS, FOR CUSTOMERS.
THE EXISTING LOADING DOCK WOULD NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR GENERAL USE BY CUSTOMERS DUE TO THE LACK OF BUILDING CODE AND LACK OF ADA ACCESSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS.
ALTHOUGH IT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO BE USED BY PROFESSIONALS SUCH AS A PROFESSIONAL MOVING COMPANY FOR LARGER UNLOADING.
IF SCHEDULED WITH LIEUTENANT AN OPERATIONAL PLAN IS REQUIRED TO ENSURE SAFE OPERATION AND SAFE LOADING AND UNLOADING BY CUSTOMERS.
LASTLY, A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS ALSO BEING PROPOSED.
THE PSYCH HAS A GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION OF R C WITH REGIONAL COMMERCIAL, AS WELL AS A CR ZONING DESIGNATION.
THE PROPERTY IS ALSO GOVERNED BY A SPECIFIC PLAN NUMBER 19, WHICH GOVERNS THE PARKLAND POSITIVE SHOPPING CENTER.
ALL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR PERSONAL STORAGE FACILITIES HAVE BEEN MET AND ADDRESSED ALONG WITH THE LOADING AND UNLOADING LAYOUT.
THE EXISTING BASEMENT SPACE HAS LIMITED CAPABILITIES AND STAFF HAS FOUND A PERSONAL STORAGE FACILITY USE THAT OPERATES EFFICIENTLY WOULD PROVIDE A BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE AND OTHERWISE ON NEW SPACE.
THE SITE WOULD INCLUDE DESIGNATING PARKING SPACES WITH WITHIN THE EXISTING PARKING LOT FOR LOADING AND UNLOADING AS WELL AS PROVIDING AVAILABILITY FOR OVERSIZED VEHICLES.
STAFF IS ALSO RECOMMENDING A SEQUEL EXEMPTION FOR THIS PROJECT.
THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS INTENDED TO ACCOUNT OF SALES TAX OFFSET CONTRIBUTIONS.
THE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL ZONE IS INTENDED TO ACCOMMODATE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL CENTERS AND PROMOTE RETAIL SALES.
THE PROPOSED AGREEMENT IS DESIGNED TO OFFSET THE EXISTING BASEMENT SPACES, SALES TAX POTENTIAL BY REMAINING $12,000 ANNUALLY FOR A PERIOD OF 10 YEARS TO THE CITY AERIAL IMAGE HERE SHOWS THE SUBJECT AREA, WHICH INCLUDES THE STOREFRONT ACCESS TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH OF THE BUILDING.
THE SITE PLAN INDICATES THE GROUND LEVEL STOREFRONT AREAS AND NEARBY DESIGNATED PARKING SPACES.
THE BLUE HIGHLIGHTED SPACES TO THE RIGHT INDICATE THE NORTH SIDE, WHICH PERMIT WHICH PROVIDES STANDARD SIZED SPACES FOR STANDARD VEHICLES.
WHILE THE LEFT SIDE INDICATES THE SOUTH SIDE SPACES AVAILABLE FOR OVERSIZED VEHICLES, SUCH AS LARGE TRUCKS, THE NORTH ELEVATION SHOWS THE REMODELED EXTERIOR STOREFRONT ENTRANCE THAT HAS CONSISTENT APPEARANCE TO THE REST OF THE TENANTS, AS WELL AS A STANDARD RETAIL DESIGN SOUTH ELEVATION ALSO BLENDS WELL WITH, WITHIN THE DI THE ADJACENT TENANTS, PROVIDING A RETAIL APPEARANCE BEFORE PLANS SHOW THE LAYOUT OF THE GROUND LEVEL SPACES, WHICH INCLUDE ELEVATORS FOR CUSTOMERS, FOR CUSTOMER ACCESS AS WELL AS AN OFFICE FOR PROCESSING NEW CUSTOMERS BASED ON A FLOOR PLAN PROVIDES A PROPOSED LAYOUT OF THE STORAGE SPACES, WHICH VARY IN SIZE TYPICAL OF STANDARD PER SOURCE FACILITIES HERE.
THE PROJECT RENDERINGS PRESENT THE INCORPORATION OF THE EXTERIOR DESIGN WITH THE OTHER TENANTS, AS WELL AS PROPOSING A SOMEWHAT HIDDEN APPEARANCE OF A STORAGE FACILITY, NOT TYPICALLY SEEING AMONGST OTHER FACILITIES
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ON JULY 21ST, 2020, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING THE FINDINGS REQUIRED FOR AN AMENDMENT JUST TO THE SPECIFIC PLAN AND A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.IT SERVES THE PUBLIC INTEREST BY PROVIDING STORAGE STORAGE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE PUBLIC UTILIZING UNUSED BASEMENT SPACE AND THE EXTERIOR MODIFICATIONS INTEGRATE WELL WITH THE REST OF THE REMODELED BUILDING.
IT WILL SYSTEMATICALLY IMPLEMENT THE CITY'S GENERAL PLAN BY IDENTIFYING AN AREA AND OPPORTUNITY FOR A COMMERCIAL REDEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS THE CONTINUATION OF SPECIFIC PLAN.
NUMBER 19 THAT CURRENTLY GOVERNS THE SHOPPING CENTER BEFORE STAFF RECOMMENDS CITY COUNCIL TO MOVE TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION IN ORDER APPROVING SEQUEL EXEMPTION AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC PLAN NUMBER 19, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2019 DASH ZERO ZERO ONE ZERO AND ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION ORDER, AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH HERITAGE GROWTH PROPERTIES, LLC.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE, AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU FOR THAT REPORT COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS QUESTION? UM, SO IF THE LOADING DOCK CAN ONLY BE USED BY PROFESSIONALS, DOES THAT MEAN BASICALLY ONLY THAT WHICH FITS TO THE FRONT DOOR AND GO INTO THE PERSONAL STORAGE UNITS? WELL, THE, UH, THE, THE LOADING DOCK WILL BE AVAILABLE.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT TO USE THAT.
SO IF, FOR EXAMPLE, IF A CUSTOMER HAS A LARGE PRODUCT THAT NEEDS TO BE STORED, UM, THEY WILL, THEY WOULD ARRANGE WITH A TENANT.
YOU SCHEDULED TO USE THE LOADING DOCK.
UH, BUT THE STOREFRONT ENTRANCES ON, ON BOTH SIDES ARE KIND OF STANDARD SIZE OF STORE DOORS.
SO, SO CAN OUR CUSTOMER WITH A U HAUL, UH, UNLOAD A WASHER AND A DRYER THAT CAME OUT OF THEIR HOME, THEY, THEY COULD, UM, IF THEY CAN USE THE VEHICLE FOR THE OVERSIZED VEHICLE SPACES, UM, I CAN'T CONFIRM THAT HE WOULD, UM, FIT THROUGH THE DOORS.
WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO DEFER THAT TO THE APPLICANT.
UM, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS THEY CAN'T USE THE LOADING DOCK FOR THAT TRUCK.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? UH, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
I MEAN, UNLESS THEY ARRANGED TO HAVE A HIRE A PROFESSIONAL MOVER TO, TO DO IT, MR. COALVILLE, WE, WE DO HAVE THE, UM, OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.
WE DO HAVE THE APPLICANT AND THE OPERATOR ON THE LINE AS WELL.
SO IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THEM, THEY'RE YEAH.
I'D LIKE TO HEAR THEIR POINT OF VIEW.
DO THEY AGREE THAT A PERSON PRIVATE PARTY WITH YOU HAUL TRUCK COULD NOT USE A LOADING DOCK TO UNLOAD A WASHER AND A DRYER THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR THAT, YEAH.
THAT WILL HAVE TO DEFER TO THE APPLICANT? UM, THE VEHICLE, THE VEHICLE COULD PARK IN THE OVERSIGHT'S DESIGNATED PARKING SPACE AND THEY CAN UTILIZE THE FRONT DOOR.
I JUST CAN'T CONFIRM THAT, UH, THAT SIZE OF A, OF A PRODUCT WE ASKED THE COMMENT ON THIS.
GRANT, MAYOR WELLS AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND STAFF.
UM, I ALSO, UH, I WILL SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS AND I ALSO HAVE MATHIAS KILMER WHO IS WITH EXTRA SPACE STORAGE HERE AND SEE HIS NAME.
SO HE CAN CERTAINLY ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL OPERATIONAL QUESTIONS THAT ANYBODY MAY HAVE TONIGHT.
UM, MY, MY GENERAL COMMENT, COUNCILMAN GOBO, IF I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, UM, WE ARE OKAY WITH, UM, LIMITING THE USE OF THE LOADING DOCK AS STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED.
UM, THE, THE ENTRANCE ON THE SOUTH SIDE WOULD BE BIG ENOUGH THAT SOMEBODY COULD BRING A LARGER ITEM THROUGH THAT DOOR AND THEN ACCESS THE FREIGHT ELEVATOR TO GO DOWN TO THE LOWER LEVEL.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, BUT THAT, YEAH, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE GROUND LEVEL RETAIL DOOR IS A DOUBLE DOOR THAT COULD OPEN UP TO ACCOMMODATE SOMETHING LIKE A WASHER.
OR A MATTRESS OR SOMETHING LARGE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? WHERE, WHERE IS THE OVERSIZED PARKING OVERSIZED VEHICLE PARKING ON THE SOUTH SIDE? YES, SIR.
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ON THE SCREEN NOW YOU CAN SEE THAT AS NAKED, THAT IS ON THE WALMART SIDE OF THE PARKING LOT.AND THAT IS AROUND THE CORNER FROM THE FRONT FRONT ENTRANCE OF BONDS TO DISCOUNT AND BURLINGTON.
I'M KIND OF GOING WITH THE AESTHETICS HERE.
IF I WAS AN OWNER OF BOB'S, I WOULD SAY, HEY, I DON'T WANT A BUNCH OF PARKING SPACES IN FRONT OF MY FRONT DOOR.
AS PEOPLE WERE WALKING IN TO GET THIS NICE FURNITURE THEY'RE SEEING, UH, SOME USED THINGS GET OUT OF THE UL TRUCK, BUT IF IT'S AROUND THE CORNER OUT OF VIEW, I THINK THAT ADDRESSES THAT QUESTION.
WE SHARE YOUR EXACT CONCERN AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY, UM, THESE SPACES WERE LOCATED WHERE THEY ARE, WHICH IS EFFECTIVELY MORE OF A BACK OF HOUSE THAN THE FRONT DOOR OF ANY OF THE TENANTS.
IF I KNOW THE ANSWERS, WE TALKED ABOUT IT A COUPLE OF TIMES, BUT MAYBE IF YOU COULD JUST EXPLAIN TO THE PUBLIC WHY WE'RE DOING SUCH A UNUSUAL THING TO HAVE A STORAGE FACILITY IN A MALL.
AND I THINK MOST PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TROUBLE UNDERSTANDING WHY WE WOULD GO OUT.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT YOU'RE THINKING OF THIS? ABSOLUTELY.
I WAS, UM, AT FIRST PRETTY RESISTANT TO THE CONCEPT, JUST BE BECAUSE I'M SELF STORAGE AT A, AT A REGIONAL MALL, THE LARGEST REGIONAL MALL IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY, DID IT MAKE SENSE TO ME, BUT AS I DELVED INTO IT, I UNDER, I BEGAN TO UNDERSTAND SOME THINGS.
THE OTHER THING I SHOULD POINT OUT, ONE OF MY CONCERNS WAS THE FACT THAT, UM, SELF STORAGE DOESN'T GENERATE SALES TAX AND TYPICAL USES AT MALLS DO GENERATE SALES TAX.
SO, UM, ON THE SALES TAX FRONT, UH, WE'VE, WE'VE LOOKED AT SALES TAX AT OTHER BOB'S DISCOUNT FURNITURE, ASHLEY FURNITURE AND BURLINGTON COAT FACTORY, SORT OF THE PROTOTYPICAL AROUND THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
IF YOU WERE TO TAKE THOSE SALES TAX CUMULATIVELY OVER A ONE YEAR PERIOD, THEY WILL BE GENERATING MORE SALES TAX.
AND OUR SEARS WAS GENERATING THE LAST FIVE YEARS OF, OF THEIR, UM, EXISTENCE AT THE MALL.
SO FROM A SALES TAX PERSPECTIVE, I'M A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORTABLE UTILIZING THAT SPACE FOR NON SALES TAXABLE USES.
THE OTHER CHALLENGE WITH THAT SPACE IS THAT SEARS WAS, IT WAS NOT RETAIL SPACE.
UM, THAT THAT 70,000 SQUARE FEET WAS REALLY USED BY SEARS A STORAGE SPACE.
UM, I ACTUALLY GOT A TOUR OF IT.
IT IS, UM, IT'S PRETTY BASEMENT FEELING.
UH, THE, THE FLOOR TO CEILING HEIGHT IS, IS PRETTY NARROW, CANNOT BE USED FOR A TRADITIONAL RETAIL SPACE.
WE ACTUALLY ASKED THE APPLICANT FOR A LOT OF DIFFERENT POSSIBLE USES RESTAURANT BAR, UM, BOWLING ALLEY, LASER TAG, I MEAN, YOU NAME IT.
WE WERE EXPLORING EVERY OPTION AND THEY, THEY, UM, EXPLORED, IN FACT, THEY SHOWED US SOME DUE DILIGENCE OF THEM TALKING WITH A LOT OF POSSIBLE TENANTS, BUT EVERY 10 THAT CAME BACK WITH A MASSIVE CONCERN ABOUT THE FLOOR HEIGHT, UM, OR THE CEILING HEIGHT.
SO IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR, CLEAR, CLEAR THAT IT WASN'T GONNA WORK.
SO THE SELF STORAGE MIGHT BE THE VERY BEST USE THERE.
UM, ULTIMATELY LET'S, LET'S FACE IT, UH, THE WAY THAT MALLS ARE GOING TO, UM, SURVIVE, UH, INTO THIS NEXT DECADE OR SO IS THE INFUSION OF HOUSING INTO A MALL PROPERTIES.
WE'RE CURRENTLY EXPLORING THAT WITH THE MALL OWNER AND, UM, APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND CONDOS AND TOWN HOMES, UH, UTILIZE SELF STORAGE ABUNDANTLY.
AND SO THIS MAY BE A REALLY GOOD COMPATIBLE USE IN THE END.
I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO TELL US ABOUT THAT.
THERE'S NO WINDOWS IN THERE EITHER.
ARE THERE, THERE ARE NOT, THERE ARE NO WINDOWS.
THEN, UM, ANCILLARY SPEAKER CARDS ON THE SIDE OF, WE HAVE NO CARD, SIR.
THEN, UM, THEN I'LL BRING IT TO, UM, CITY COUNCIL TO DISCUSS AND MAKE A MOTION.
UH, ONE MORE QUESTION FOR STAFF, YOU KNOW, WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE'S STUFF IN A BASEMENT, UH, HAS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT THEN PART OF THIS PROCESS IN LOOKING AT THIS QUESTION? YES, THEY, THEY HAVE, UM, OUR BUILDING OFFICIALS SLASH FIRE MARSHALL WAS INVOLVED IN THE REVIEW AND INVOLVE NUMEROUS
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MEETINGS WITH THE APPLICANT TO ADDRESS, UM, THOSE REQUIREMENTS.THAT'S I THINK THAT GIVES THE POET SOME COMFORT BECAUSE YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT'S GOING INTO PEOPLE'S UNITS DOWN THERE.
AND, AND BOY, IT WOULD JUST BE DISASTROUS FOR EVERYBODY TO HAVE SOMETHING, NOT TO ADDRESSABLE BY A FIRE PREVENTION.
AND SO I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT THEY WERE PART OF IT.
I THINK SARAH THOMAS HAS BROUGHT THE COMMUNITY AWESOME, GREAT VALUE WITH THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THEY BROUGHT BOB'S, WHICH IS, UH, A GREAT RETAILER.
BURLINGTON'S A GREAT RETAILER.
IT'S COMFORTING TO NOTE THAT THE SALES TAX BEING GENERATED OR EXPECTED TO GENERATE IS GOING TO BE AS GOOD AS THE FORMER USE OF THE PROPERTY.
SO I THINK SARAH TAJ HAS, HAS DONE THEIR BEST EFFORTS TO DO THIS.
AND I AGREE WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? UH, I'LL MOVE TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION APPROVING THE SECRET EXEMPTION.
SECOND, ANGELA, YOUR VOTE PLEASE.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER AT MCCLELLAN.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO AMEND.
UM, IF YOU COULD PUT UP THE RECOMMENDATION SLIDE, ANCHOR FORUM TO AMANDA'S SPECIFIC PLAN 19 WOULD BE THE SECOND MOTION THAT AGAIN? UM, MAYOR WELLS SERVER.
COUNCIL MEMBER KENDRICK AND COUNCIL MEMBER.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
I THINK THE THIRD ONE WAS A MOVE TO ADOPT THE REVISION TO THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 2019 DASH ZERO 10.
IS THAT GOOD BY MEMORY? THAT'S RIGHT.
SO THAT AGAIN? MAYOR WELLS PLEASE.
COUNCIL MEMBER KENDRICK COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION IN ORDER APPROVING AMENDMENTS IS PURSUE PLAN NUMBER 19 THEN NO WEIRD DID THAT ONE.
THAT'S WHAT STEVE, BEFORE BULLET POINT ON THE SLIDE, I KIND OF SEEN THE SLIDE YESTERDAY.
THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, PLEASE.
I CAN MAKE THE MOTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE AND DELIVER THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH SARAH JUDGE GROWTH PROPERTIES.
COUNCIL MEMBER KENDRICK COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
AND IS THAT ALL OF THEM? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S IT.
WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO SEE IT COMPLETED.
NOW WE HAVE TWO ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
[17. North Marshall Dog Park RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council designates the newly renovated area adjacent to the El Cajon Animal Shelter as a park.]
ITEM 17 IS REGARDING THE NORTH MARSHALL DOG PARK AND STAFF.WOULD YOU TELL US ABOUT THIS PLEASE? SORRY, COUNSEL.
UM, WE'RE GONNA DO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NOT SO FLUID TRANSITION BETWEEN US AND NON CATCHING MYSELF ON THIS PRESENTATION.
UH, SO I JUST WANT TO ASK HER TO PATIENTS AS WE TRANSITION BETWEEN US BACK AND FORTH CARSON PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR FOR THE CITY THEY'LL HOME.
WE WANT TO INTRODUCE POTENTIALLY THE NEW PARK IN THE CITY.
IT IS RIGHT NOW, I'LL REFER TO AS NORTH MARSHALL PARK AND IT'S A, A POCKET PARK IN THE LOCATION OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
UH, SO THIS WAS DONE THROUGH VERY GENEROUS COOPERATION WITH THE URBAN COURSE IN YOUR COUNTY AND TORO, UH, WORKING WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.
I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE NELSON ONCOLOGY AS I TRANSITIONED OVER TO HIM.
JUST BE PATIENT WITH ME AS WE DO TRANSITION
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IN JUST A SECOND.MAYOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF, AS FRANK MENTIONED ON
BACK WHEN THE CITY COMPLETED CONSTRUCTION OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER IN 2018, THERE WAS STILL EVEN MORE POTENTIAL AT THAT PROPERTY, UH, THROUGH GRANT EFFORTS BY CITY STAFF AND THE GENEROUS GENEROSITY OF THE TORO LAND, WATER THRIVE GREENSPACE ENHANCEMENT PROGRAM.
OUR STAFF DESIGNED AND BUILT A NEW PARK IN THE CITY, WHICH INCLUDES OFF-LEASH DOG AREA, PICNIC AREA, AND LANDSCAPING.
WHAT WAS ONCE AN EMPTY DIRT LOT IS NOW A GREAT PARK AREA FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, THE CITY'S PARK OPERATION STAFF FOR THEIR HEAVY INVOLVEMENT IN THIS PROJECT.
ASIDE FROM CONSTRUCTING SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS AT THE SITE, THEY PROVIDED A VALUABLE TRAINING TO JOURNEY MEN AND WOMEN OF THE URBAN CORE STAFF.
SO THANK YOU, MARTIN BITTERLY, PARKS, OPERATIONS MANAGER, AND ALL CITY STAFF INVOLVED ON THIS PROJECT.
YOU CAN SEE SOME PICTURES OF THEM.
THEY'RE VOLUNTEERS IN THE TOP PICTURE AND OUR CURRENT PRODUCT ON THE BOTTOM PICTURE.
THAT'S A GRASS OR TURF PAVER AREA THAT'S GROWING IN NICELY.
HOW WE'RE GOING TO GIVE IT A COUPLE MORE MONTHS THERE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALRIGHT, ANDREW, DID YOU RECEIVE ANY? NO, SIR, NO COMMENTS.
UM, LOOKS LIKE A GOOD PROJECT.
I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY DISCUSSION OR SOME OF THAT? I HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION.
I MOVED THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE STAFF.
COUNCIL MEMBER KENDRICK AND COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
DOC IS, UH, UH, SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO BE SLEEPING.
HE SEEMS NOT TO BE UNDERSTANDING WHAT JUST HAPPENED TO HIM, BUT UH, WE APPRECIATE IT.
[18. Animal Services in the City of El Cajon RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council provides direction to staff to finalize an Animal Services Agreement and Lease Agreement with the San Diego Humane Society for City Council consideration.]
OKAY.WE'RE AT THE LAST ADMINISTRATOR REPORT ITEM EIGHT TEAM REGARDING ANIMAL SERVICES IN THE CITY OF ALCOHOLISM.
LIKE THE STF, PLEASE INDUCE THIS ITEM.
MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
I, UH, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN SEE MY SCREEN IN A SECOND.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY HAS BEEN SEEKING WAYS TO ALWAYS EFFICIENTLY PROVIDE SERVICES TO OUR RESIDENTS.
SO PART OF THAT INCLUDES ANALYZING THINGS THAT WE DO ANALYZING THE WAY THAT WE DO THINGS.
AND SOME OF THAT ANALYSIS OVER THE YEARS HAS RESULTED IN THE SKI CONTRACTING OUT THINGS THAT SOME CITIES TRADITIONALLY HAVE DONE.
IT CERTAINLY THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA HAS TRADITIONALLY DONE SUCH AS JANITORIAL SERVICES.
WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER TODAY, UH, STREET SWEEPING SOMETHING WE IMPLEMENTED ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO, UM, LANDSCAPING SERVICES AND OUR PARKS AND OUR MEDIA AND SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY EXPLORING AN RFP IS ABOUT TO GO OUT ON THE STREETS FOR THAT RIGHT NOW.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE'RE EXPLORING ON.
ARE THERE BETTER WAYS TO DO THINGS OR, OR MORE EFFICIENT WAYS TO DO THINGS? UM, WE HAVE BEEN OVER THE YEARS TALKING TO, UM, HUMANE SAN DIEGO HUMANE'S IN FACT, WE WERE TALKING TO THEM, UH, PRIOR TO BUILDING OUR ANIMAL SHELTER.
UH, AND IT WAS SOME NEGOTIATIONS AND WE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE THERE SI WAS NEGOTIATING, MAYBE SOME CONTRACT TO SERVICE WITH SERVICES WITH THEM AND FOR THE CITY'S PURPOSES AND FOR OUR SAN DIEGO HUMANE SOCIETY PURPOSES.
SO, UM, SINCE THE BUILDING OF THE SHELTER, WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, UM, THAT VERY TOPIC OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
SO WE'RE PRESENTING AS PART OF TODAY'S AGENDA ITEM, SORT OF AN OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT THE CITY PROVIDES TO THE COMMUNITY AND ANALYSIS OF WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THE SAN DIEGO HUMANE SOCIETY TOOK OVER, UM, OR CONTRACTED, OR WE CONTRACTED OUT WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETY FOR SERVICES.
UH, WE LOOKED AT SOME FISCAL CONSIDERATIONS AND IN STAFF WE'LL END WITH A RECOMMENDATION BASED ON OUR ANALYSIS.
UM, SO WE'RE GOING TO STAY ON MARSHALL JUST TO THE LEFT OF IT IS THE
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NEW PART THAT YOU JUST HEARD ABOUT.UH, BUT, UM, THIS IS OUR NEW ANIMAL SHELTER THAT WAS BUILT A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS AGO OR OPENED UP TWO YEARS AGO.
WE CURRENTLY IN THIS LAST YEAR, I SHOULD SAY WE HOUSED, UM, ALMOST 50, A LITTLE OVER 1500 ANIMALS AT THAT SITE, ALMOST EQUAL AMOUNT OF DOGS AND CATS, AND THEN 75 OTHER ANIMALS, SUCH AS RODENTS AND SMALL MAMMALS.
UH, WE WERE ABLE TO ADOPT OUT 757 ANIMALS THROUGH OUR ADOPTION PROGRAM.
AND WE DO HAVE SEVEN FULL TIME STAFF, ONE CONTRACTED VETERINARIAN, AND THEN THREE PART TIME STAFF.
SO WE HAVE ABOUT A COMPLIMENT OF ABOUT 10 STAFF THAT CURRENTLY OPERATE AT THE SHELTER RIGHT NOW.
AND WE OPERATE FIVE DAYS A WEEK, SEVEN HOURS, UH, EACH OF THOSE DAYS.
SO, UM, AS I INDICATED, WE HAD BEEN TALKING WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETY ACTUALLY FOR MANY YEARS AND JUST THE TIME DIDN'T COME, UH, IT WASN'T THE RIGHT TIMING, BUT STAFF BELIEVES THAT NOW MAYBE THE TIMING IS RIGHT TO CONSIDER A RELATIONSHIP CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SAN DIEGO HUMANE SOCIETY.
SO AT, IN THINKING ABOUT THAT, WE ANALYZED A COUPLE ASPECTS, UM, THAT THEY BRING TO THE TABLE.
ONE IS WE LOOKED AT THEIR FIELD SERVICES AND THEIR EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT THEY CURRENTLY PROVIDE FIELD SERVICE IS, AND THAT INCLUDES THE FULL GAMUT OF, OF ANIMAL CONTROL, UM, INVESTIGATING ABUSES OF ANIMALS, UH, DEALING WITH NUISANCES, SUCH AS DOGS AT LARGE OR BARKING DOGS OR ARE LOUD ANIMALS.
AND SO THEY CURRENTLY PROVIDE THAT SERVICE.
SOMETHING THAT WE CURRENTLY DO TO 12 OF THE 18 INCORPORATED CITIES IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.
SO THEY HAVE A TRACK RECORD IN THIS COUNTY OF PROVIDING THAT SERVICE.
THEY ALSO HAVE A REALLY ROBUST EDUCATION PROGRAM AND THEY BRING A LOT OF RESOURCES TO EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ON, ON PET OWNERSHIP AND, UM, ANIMAL BEHAVIOR.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT THEY DO A PHENOMENAL JOB OPERATING SHELTERS AROUND THIS COUNTY.
THEY CURRENTLY OPERATE THREE CAMPUSES OUTSIDE OF EL CAHONE AND WITHIN THE COUNTY.
UM, AND THEY HAVE A WIDE VARIETY OF TYPES OF SHELTERS THAT THEY OPERATE.
UH, STAFF HAS TOURED THEIR SHELTER, THEIR THEIR MEAN SAN DIEGO SHELTER ARE VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE CLEANLINESS OF THEIR OPERATION, THEIR CUSTOMER SERVICE ORIENTATION, THINGS THAT I THINK EXEMPLIFIED THE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE AT OUR SHELTER.
AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE, WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE HUMANE SOCIETY BRINGS A PRETTY ROBUST EMERGENCY RESPONSE PROGRAM.
SOMETHING WE CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE WITH ONLY TWO ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS, BUT DURING AN EMERGENCY, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO BRING TEAM MEMBERS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY THAT THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH ISSUES OF EMERGENCY IN SPECIFICALLY HOW THEY RELATE TO ANIMALS.
AND THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DEAL WITH LARGER ANIMALS, EXOTIC ANIMALS, THINGS THAT MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH OF AS, AS THERE ARE IN MORE PARTS OF EAST COUNTY, BUT THEY DO HAVE THAT CAPACITY, SOMETHING WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT NOW.
UM, LASTLY, WE LOOKED AT THE TYPES OF FEES THAT THEY CHARGE.
WE DO KNOW THAT, UM, OUR FEES ARE LOW, MUCH LOWER THAN THE COUNTY AVERAGE.
UM, YOU HUMANE SOCIETIES FEES ARE MORE ALIGNED WITH THE COUNTY AVERAGE.
SO THEIR FEES ARE FOR THE MOST PART HIGHER THAN OURS.
SO IN SOME AREAS ARE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER, BUT I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT OUR FEES HAVE PROBABLY FALLEN BEHIND BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T PAID ATTENTION TO UPGRADING THOSE FEES OR UPDATING THOSE FEES OVER THE YEARS.
UM, BASED ON, UM, THAT ANALYSIS, WE THOUGHT WE'D LOOK AT SORT OF THE FISCAL CONSIDERATIONS OR A FISCAL ANALYSIS.
WE KNOW THAT IT COSTS US ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS TO PROVIDE ANIMAL SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH, THROUGH OUR IN HOUSE PROGRAM.
WE THINK WE COULD, UH, PROVIDE THAT SAME SERVICE FOR ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETY.
WE KNOW THAT BY CONTRACTING THIS OUT, THIS WILL NOT HAVE AN IMMEDIATE IMPACT ON OUR PENSION LIABILITY, BUT LONGTERM, IT SHOULD HAVE A LOWERING OF OUR PENSION LIABILITY.
IT ALSO FREES UP A VALUABLE POLICE SERGEANT.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE A POLICE SERGEANT THAT SUPERVISES THAT FACILITY AND IT WILL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO TRANSFER THAT POLICE SERGEANT BACK INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, REALLY ESSENTIALLY GIVING US, ADDING US A POLICE POSITION WITHOUT COSTING ANY MONEY FOR THAT.
AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE HUMANE SOCIETY PROVIDES A MUCH, UH, UM, MORE THE THOROUGH PROGRAM.
WE KNOW THAT OUR SHELTER HOURS WILL INCREASE BY 50% IF WE WERE TO GO WITH THEM, UH, FIELD AND EDUCATION SERVICES ARE, LIKE I SAID, VERY ROBUST.
I HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE THAT THEY CAN SERVE OUR COMMUNITY WELL.
SO WITH THAT STAFF, UM, RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL SERIOUSLY CONSIDER
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A CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SAN DIEGO HUMANE SOCIETY.THAT WOULD MEAN, UM, STAFF BRINGING BACK AN ANIMAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION, AS WELL AS A LEASE AGREEMENT FOR THEM TO OPERATE OUR SHELTER.
UM, WE THINK THAT THE, THAT AGREEMENT CAN INCLUDE SOME PROVISIONS THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO RECOUP SOME COSTS AS DOGS FROM OR ANIMALS FROM OUTSIDE OF ALCOHOL ARE STORED AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER ARE HOUSED AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
WE CAN CHARGE A FEE FOR THOSE ANIMALS AND THOSE FEES CAN HELP PAY FOR SOME LONGTERM SUSTAINABILITY OF THAT FACILITY.
SO I THINK THERE'S AN UPSIDE THAT WE CURRENTLY DON'T GET OUT OF THAT BY HAVING A LONGTERM LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THEM.
UM, AND IF WE WERE TO DO THAT, WE WOULD REMOVE THAT FROM OUR JANITORIAL SERVICE CONTRACT AND THAT WOULD HELP REDUCE SOME COSTS THERE.
SO STAFF'S ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, UM, UH, ABOUT OUR ANALYSIS.
ASHLEY ALSO MENTIONED THAT, UH, THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THE SAN DIEGO HUMANE SOCIETY, DR.
GARY WEITZMAN IS ON THE, ON, ON THE LINE.
HE'S ABOUT TO DIAL IN, IN A SECOND OR BE PROMOTED.
HE'D LIKE TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS TO, AS PART OF THIS PRESENTATION AND THEN MICHAEL LOWERY, UH, THE CFO FOR THE HUMANE SOCIETY AND JULIANA TETLOW THE DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AND GOVERNMENT RELATIONS IS ALSO HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
SO WITH THAT COUNSEL, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR QUESTIONS WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR YOU.
UM, OUR GUESTS COME ON WILDLIFE, SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
WHAT'S OUR CURRENT UTILIZATION OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER, YOU KNOW, 50% OF CAPACITY, 75 WE'RE.
UM, THE LAST I TALKED TO ANIMAL CONTROL STAFF IS WE'RE PROBABLY AT 50% IF WE WERE TO GO INTO OUR MAXIMO AND, AND WE, AND AS YOU RECALL, YOU'VE TAKEN A TOUR OF THE FACILITY.
THERE'S THE ABILITY TO, UM, TAKE ONE SPACE AND MAKE THEM INTO TWO SPACES WITH A, WITH A DOOR THAT'S NOT A GOOD LONGTERM SOLUTION.
SO WHEN I SAY HALF CAPACITY, THAT THAT ASSUMES SORT OF THE MOST CRAMPED CONDITIONS, WHICH IS NOT LONGTERM SUSTAINABLE.
SO, SO MR. GOBLE PROBABLY ABOUT 75% RIGHT NOW, WHICH INCLUDES, UM, LAMESA ANIMALS.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF CAPACITY FOR US TO GROW OR TAKE ON ADDITIONAL ANIMALS.
DOES THE MILLION DOLLAR COST TO US INCLUDE INCOME FROM THE MESA? UM, IT DOES INCLUDE THE MA THE MILLION, THE, THE CONTRACT OF LAMESA.
SO THERE'S ROOM IN THE FACILITY TO HANDLE MORE PETS THAN JUST ALCOHOL ON THE MESA.
SO THAT'S A REVENUE POSSIBILITY, CORRECT.
UM, THE FEE SCHEDULE THAT'S IN THE STAFF REPORT, THE ALCOHOL FEES FOR DOG LICENSES ARE LOWER IN MOST CASES THAN THE WELL THEY'RE HIGHER THAN THE REGIONAL AVERAGE, A LOWER THAN THE HUMANE SOCIETY.
SO MY QUESTION IS, DO WE HAVE, UH, IF, IF WE ADOPT THE HUMANE SOCIETY RATES, THE RISK IS PEOPLE STOP LICENSING THEIR PETS.
AND THEN ALSO YOU WENT FROM X AMOUNT OF INCOME TO, TO LESS THAN THAT, BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT'S TOO BIG OF A JUMP INTO FEES.
WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE REVENUE WAS FROM DOG LICENSES? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
I HAVE A GRAPH THAT KIND OF SHOWS THAT, UM, THIS SHOWS ALL OF OUR ANIMAL SERVICE REVENUE BY SOURCE LAST YEAR.
SO, UM, START WITH THE TWO SMALLEST, THE SMALLEST TWO AMOUNTS ARE OUR FINES ARE, OUR GOAL IS NOT TO GENERATE REVENUE FROM FINES.
WE GOT ABOUT $10,000 BETWEEN THOSE TWO, UM, LICENSING FEES MADE UP ABOUT 23% OF OUR OVERALL REVENUE, ALMOST $50,000, BUT THE BIGGEST REVENUE SOURCE WAS SHELTERING ANIMALS, UH, IN POUND FEES, AND THEN FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHELTERING OF ANIMALS, SUCH AS MEDICAL VET FEES.
AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, UM, ABOUT HALF OF THAT IS LAMESA ANIMALS.
AND HALF OF THAT IS ALCOHOL ANIMALS.
SO 50,000 IN LICENSES AND PERMITS IS ROUGHLY 5% OF THE TOTAL COST.
50,000 IS 5% OF A MILLION DOLLARS IN COST.
SO, UH, IT'S NOT LIKE THE LICENSE DOES, ARE COVERING THE MAJORITY OF COSTS FOR US.
SO EVEN IF WE TOOK A HIT OF HALF A LICENSING AND PERMITS FEES, OR WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A DEVASTATING IMPACT, THE FINANCIAL SUSTAINABILITY OF THIS CENTER, THAT'S A GOOD ANALYSIS OF THAT SCENARIO.
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I'M MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.THE RISK ON THE INCOME, IF PEOPLE SEE A LARGE INCREASE IN FEES.
THOSE ARE THE ONLY QUESTIONS I HAVE FOR NOW.
UM, I'M ASSUMING THAT IF SOMEONE BOUGHT A DOG LICENSE FOR THEIR DOG TODAY, IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH, UM, STHS, UM, THAT IT'S GOING TO BE HONORED FOR THE REMAINDER OF, OF THAT TERM.
AND I, AND I DON'T KNOW THIS A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE, BUT I THINK WE USE THE SAME LICENSING PROGRAM AS THE HUMANE SOCIETY.
UM, AND SO WE WOULD JUST TRANSFER OUR RECORDS TO THE HUMANE SOCIETY.
SO IF YOU, IF YOU HAD JUST BOUGHT A THREE YEAR LICENSE, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT RECORD WOULD SHOW IN THE HUMANE SOCIETIES RECORDS FOR A THREE YEAR RECORD.
AND THEN FOR THE HUMAN SAN DIEGO HUMANE SOCIETY, UM, ARE THOSE, HOW, HOW ARE THEIR FEE SCHEDULES INCREASE? DO THEY DO THEM EVERY YEAR? DO THEY DO THEM EVERY 10 YEARS? UM, I MEAN, WE'RE SEEING THESE FEES RIGHT NOW IN A POINT IN TIME, BUT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? MOVING FORWARD, MR. CARSON? I DON'T KNOW IF OUR HUMANE STUDY FOLKS ON THE LINE RIGHT NOW.
THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNMUTE THEMSELVES.
WEITZMAN, THAT MAY BE A GOOD QUESTION FOR YOU.
OKAY, GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
UM, MR. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT'S GOOD TO BE ABLE TO, TO MEET YOU AT LEAST ON ZOOM.
AS FAR AS OUR INCREASES IN OUR LICENSE FEES, WE USUALLY DO THEM, UM, IN CONCERT WITH THE MUNICIPAL CONTRACT, UH, DEPENDING ON THE CITY'S REQUIREMENTS.
SO WE ONLY INCREASE THEM WHEN WE'VE ALSO TALKED TO THE CITY ABOUT IT AND HAVE AN ACTUAL, UH, SCHEDULE FOR INQUIRY.
UM, OUR DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT RELATIONS, JULIANA TETLOW ACTUALLY MANAGES THAT CONTRACT.
SHE MAY HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT, THE INCREASE ON LICENSE FEES, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THEY'RE VERY CONSERVATIVE.
AND THEN REGARDING THE LICENSE REVENUE OVERALL, WE REALLY HAVE A PROGRAM WHERE WE INCREASE OR ARE TRYING VERY, UM, VERY, UH, CONCERTEDLY TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF LICENSEES IN EACH JURISDICTION, NOT JUST TO RELY ON THE INCOME COMING IN FROM EXISTING LICENSES.
SO LICENSING A DOG IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL TO THE PROGRAM.
WE'RE WORKING NOW IN 13, SORRY.
IT'S 12 CITIES THROUGHOUT SAN DIEGO COUNTY AND, UM, HAVE ENLARGE STAFF THAT ACTUALLY WORKS ON LICENSING.
AND WE DO USE THE SAME TYPE OF PROGRAM THAT YOU'VE ALREADY GOT IN ALCOHOL, BUT WE ALSO HAVE A VERY BIG, UM, ONLINE, UH, APPLICATION FOR IT AS WELL.
IT'S A VERY CUSTOMER FRIENDLY AND IT'S A VERY, UM, REALLY, TRULY A VERY 21ST CENTURY AND THAT EVERYBODY CAN DO IT ONLINE WITH A TERRIFIC, UM, LICENSE, VERY, UM, VISIBLE ON EACH THOMAS COLOR.
I DON'T KNOW, UM, RAM IF YOU'D LIKE JULIANA TO ADD ANY MORE DETAILS ABOUT LICENSING, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE SHE CAN CERTAINLY HI EVERYBODY JULIANA TUTLOW DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT RELATIONS FOR SAN DIEGO HUMANE SOCIETY.
IT'S VERY NICE TO SEE YOU ALL TODAY.
UM, AS FAR AS INCREASES IN OUR FEES PRIOR TO THE INCEPTION OF THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO CONTRACT, WHICH WE TOOK ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO, THEY HAD NOT BEEN INCREASED IN A NUMBER OF YEARS.
AND THE IMPETUS FOR OUR INCREASE WAS ACTUALLY ALIGNING WITH THE COUNTY WHO RECENTLY ALSO DID AN INCREASE AND IT HAD BEEN NEARLY TWO DECADES SINCE THEY HAD DONE IT TOO.
AND WHEN WE DO THEM, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH ALL OF OUR MUNICIPALITIES ABOUT, UH, THE COST INCREASE AND THE TIMING AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S AGREEMENT ACROSS THE BOARD.
UM, AND AS GARY MENTIONED, I JUST, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, WE ACTUALLY DO HAVE A PRETTY ROBUST LICENSING COMPLIANCE PROGRAM WHERE WE WORK VERY HARD TO, UM, BRING UP THE AMOUNT OF LICENSED ANIMALS IN EACH MUNICIPALITY THROUGH EDUCATION, JUST LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THAT IT IS REQUIREMENT OF LAW.
UM, AND IF NECESSARY WORKING WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN AFFORD TO LICENSE THEIR ANIMAL, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN GET ALL THE NECESSARY VACCINATIONS PRIOR TO LICENSING THEIR ANIMAL AND, AND REALLY BEING A PARTNER, UH, WITH EACH COMMUNITY MEMBER AND MAKING SURE THAT THEY CAN, UH, LICENSED THEIR ANIMAL WELL COUNSEL, UH, AMER QUESTIONS BEFORE THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
THE, THE FEES THAT THE HUMANE SOCIETY HAS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT ARE THOSE THE SAME FEES THAT ARE CHARGED THROUGHOUT THE 12 OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, OR ARE THOSE FEES SET BY CONTRACT WITH EACH CITY? THERE ARE TWO EXCEPTIONS, UH, TO
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THE FEES, UH, THE CITY OF VISTA AND THE CITY OF OCEANSIDE ALREADY HAD PREESTABLISHED FEES, WHICH WE'VE HONORED THE REST OF OUR MUNICIPAL CONTRACTS ALL SHARE THAT SAME FEE SCHEDULE THAT'S BEFORE YOU.THE ULTIMATE GOAL JUST FOR THE RECORD, THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO GET EVERYBODY ON THE SAME FEE SCHEDULE.
UH, BUT THAT TAKES TIME WITH EACH JURISDICTION.
SO WITH THE COMPLIANCE PART OF, OF, UM, REGISTRATION, UM, DO YOU HAVE A PROGRAM THAT PROMOTES THE VALUE RATHER THAN THE REQUIREMENT? ABSOLUTELY.
SO AS GARY MENTIONED, WE HAVE AN ONLINE PARTNER THERE CALLED PET HUB.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GEARING UP TO DO RIGHT NOW IS STARTING AN EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN ON THE VALUE OF LICENSING IN THAT IT ACTUALLY GETS YOUR PET BACK HOME QUICKER.
MICROCHIPS ARE ALSO A FANTASTIC WAY TO GET YOUR PET HOME, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE THAT TAG, UM, THAT ALLOWS FOLKS TO QUICKLY IDENTIFY WHERE YOUR PET BELONGS.
ULTIMATELY, WE HOPE THAT WITH LICENSING, WITH AN INCREASE IN LICENSING, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY BYPASS THE SHELTER AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND GETTING PETS HOME TO THEIR FAMILIES THROUGH THAT PROGRAM.
SO THAT'S ACTUALLY COMING SOON.
DO YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSIONS OR THOUGHTS ABOUT HOW TO INCREASE THAT UTILIZATION OF THE SHELTER AND TRY TO OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS WITH MORE, MORE PETS? I LET GARY ANSWER THAT WHY I WAS GETTING OVERLY EXCITED THERE.
I WAS GOING TO SAY, WE ALSO WILL.
WE'RE PROVIDING A LOT OF SERVICES THAT ACTUALLY WE WILL NOT BE CHARGING THE CITY FOR.
AND THOSE ARE REALLY SAFETY NET SERVICES AND EDUCATION, AS GRAHAM MENTIONED, AS WELL AS USE OF OUR KITTEN NURSERY, OUR BEHAVIOR CENTER, OUR SHELTER MEDICINE PROGRAMS, AND ALSO OUR COMMUNITY PROGRAMS, WHICH ARE SPAY NEUTER, AND, UM, EVENTUALLY COMMUNITY, UM, ACCESS TO VETERINARY CARE FOR PEOPLE IN NEED IN THESE COUNTY, AS FAR AS, UM, INCREASING USE OF THE SHELTER.
I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY LAID THE GROUNDWORK FOR THAT.
THE DOG PARK RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE SHELTER WILL BE A BIG DRAW.
I, I BELIEVE WE ALL DO FOR PEOPLE TO COME INTO THE SHELTER AND WHAT WE WANT THE SHELTER TO BE.
WE'RE REALLY DOING THIS IN ALL OF OUR CAMPUSES, AND THIS WILL BE THE FOURTH ONE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY IS REALLY A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN CONVENE TO EXCESS VETERINARIAN, SORRY, EXCESS ANIMAL SERVICES.
SO EVERYTHING FROM EDUCATION AND POSSIBLY CAREER CAMPS FOR KIDS TO SEMINARS AND FOOD, A FOOD BANK, SUPPLY BANK FOR PEOPLE IN NEED THAT NEED THAT FOR THEIR ANIMALS AS WELL AS VETERINARY CARE.
SO, SO THE IDEA REALLY IS TO MAKE IT A MAGNET FOR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO COME AND, AND, AND RECEIVE ANIMAL WELFARE SERVICES ALL IN ONE PLACE.
AND YOU BUILD A BEAUTIFUL SHELTER AND WE REALLY ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO A PARTNERSHIP WITH HERE.
WE'RE REALLY HUMBLED BY THE IDEA TO BE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF ALCOHOL, TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES TO OUR EAST COUNTY CONSTITUENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING ALL AROUND YOU, BUT NOT ACTUALLY IN ALCOHOL.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY AND CONSIDERING THIS, AND JUST FINALLY ALSO SAY THAT, UH, SERGEANT TROTTER, WHO NOW HEADS UP THE ANIMAL SERVICES, UH, WORK, WE WORK FOR OKLAHOMA.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.
AND, UM, IT'S BEEN A PLEASURE WORKING WITH HIM AND AS MUCH WITH A GRAHAM THESE LAST, THIS LAST YEAR TO GET IT TO THIS POINT.
SO DO YOU HAVE SOME SHELTERS? WELL, YOU JUST HAVE NO MORE CAPACITY AND, UH, ALCOHOL WOULD PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, RELIEVE SOME OF THE PRESSURE ON SOME OF YOUR EDWARDS.
WE SORT OF DO, UM, THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO ALL BY ITSELF CAN FILL A NUMBER OF OUR CAMPUSES.
UM, AND WE DIRECT MOST OF THOSE ANIMALS TO OBVIOUSLY ARCANE STREET CAMPUS, JUST FOR CONVENIENCE.
HOWEVER, WE WILL BE ABLE TO, WE HAVE, WE ARE CONTRACTED WITH SANTEE AS WELL.
AND SO SANTI RESIDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THEIR ANIMALS AT THE ALCOHOL AND SHELTER.
SO THAT WILL BE, UM, UH, I THINK, UH, A VERY BENEFICIAL PARTNERSHIP FOR BOTH THE HUMANE SOCIETY AND THE CITY OF ALCOHOLICS AND SAN TEAM TO BE DOING THIS, SORRY, YOU'RE SAYING SANTI PEOPLE, MAN, NOT HAVE TO GO TO SOME OTHER SHELTER.
WHERE DO THEY GO TO OUR PLAN? THEY COME TO, THEY COME TO GAIN STREET, UM, IN SAN DIEGO.
SO OUR MAIN CAMPUS THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GO RIGHT TO JUST GO, I'M JUST GOING TO GET ALCOHOL AND STAG.
SO IT'LL BE MUCH MORE CONVENIENT FOR THEM.
AND WE KNOW IF THE MOST, THE MORE CONVENIENT IT IS, THE MORE CHANCE WE HAVE FOR PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY RECLAIM THEIR PETS.
SO IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THAT ACCESSIBILITY BE RIGHT THERE.
ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS, NO COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM, SIR.
THEN I BRING IT BACK TO COUNCIL.
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IF THERE'S ANY, IF THERE'S ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON WHAT'S HAPPENED OR IF SOMEONE WAS, MAKE WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION, THAT THAT'D BE A GOOD TIME.THIS IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, YOU KNOW, HIRE SOMEONE BETTER THAN YOU AND GET OUT OF THEIR WAY.
AND I'M A HUGE FAN OF THE SAN DIEGO HUMANE SOCIETY.
WE A YEAR AGO, THERE WAS A HAWK ON WASHINGTON WITH A STICKY TRAP AND ITS FOOT.
AND WE BROUGHT IT TO THE SAN DIEGO, THE MAIN SOCIETY.
AND I WAS A LORD WITH THEIR LEVEL OF SERVICE AND EACH WATER STACK WAS THEIR OWN.
THEY TOOK IT UPON THEMSELVES TO THEIR, THEIR, THEIR OWN.
I WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THEIR ABILITY TO INTERACT WITH US AND THE ANIMALS AND, AND, UH, SO I'M A HUGE FAN OF THEM AND WE'RE REDUCING OUR PENSION LIABILITY, UH, SPRINGSTEEN SERVICES.
I, I JUST, I THINK IT'S A GREAT, A GREAT MOVE.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? YEAH, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
UM, I, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN ORTIZ'S VIEW, I'M A SENIOR FOR ME IN SOCIETY, STAFF DID A VISIT AND, UH, SAY WERE EXCELLENT OPERATIONS.
THEY RUN, UH, THIS IS GOING TO INCREASE THE HOURS TO THE PUBLIC BY ABOUT 50% WITHOUT INCREASING THE COST.
IT'S KIND OF PERHAPS DOUBLE THE STAFF.
UM, IT PROVIDES MORE UTILIZATION OF OUR PROPERTY, WHICH COULD POSSIBLY LOWER THE OVERALL COST TO THE CITY.
AND I THINK THEIR EXPERTISE IN, UM, PROVIDING VALUE FOR WHAT THEY DO IS EXCELLENT.
SO I, I AGREE WITH THE RECOMMENDATION.
WELL, SOMEBODY WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE I'LL SECOND.
ALRIGHT, ANGELA, YOUR VOTE PLEASE.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
OH, CONGRATULATIONS, EVERYBODY.
WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO SEE YOU COME TO TOWN AND A RIGHT TO COME VISIT AND SEE WHAT GOOD PROGRAMS YOU PUT IN.
AND WE THANK YOU FOR TAKING YOUR CARES OR OF OUR DOGS AND CATS AND GUANOS AND WHATEVER COMES YOUR WAY.
SO MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL WITH THAT DIRECTION, WE'LL BE BRINGING BACK A LEASE AGREEMENT IN AN ANIMAL SERVICES AGREEMENT AT YOUR FIRST MEETING IN SEPTEMBER.
SO THAT'LL, THAT'LL BE ON YOUR PLATE AGAIN.
WELL, THERE ARE NO COMMISSION REPORTS ON TODAY'S AGENDA
[13. ACTIVITIES REPORTS/COMMENTS OF MAYOR WELLS: SANDAG (San Diego Association of Governments) Board of Directors; SANDAG – Audit Committee, San Diego Division; Heartland Fire Training JPA – Alternate; LAFCO.]
ITEM 19 IS MY ACTIVITY REPORT, WHICH IS AS REPORTED ITEM 20 IS THE LEGISLATIVE REPORT AND IT IS AS REPORTED.DID YOU HAVE ANY CLARIFICATION HERE OR ARE YOU, DID YOU WANT TO A MAYOR AND COUNCIL? CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YEAH.
UM, EVERYTHING IS STILL FLOATING AROUND.
THE INDIVIDUAL COMMITTEES HAS MOVED APPRECIABLY.
UM, THERE IS ONE OTHER ITEM THAT DOESN'T APPEAR ON THE LEGISLATIVE REPORT IS SP THREE.
UM, IT'S, IT'S A POSED BODY, MOST CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE, UM, PUTTING OUR OWN, UM, IF A MAN BEATS 12 WEEKS OF FAMILY LEAVE UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, IT ALSO A LIABILITY FOR THE BUSINESS OWNER THAT IS TYPICALLY TARGETED SMALL BUSINESS, UH, FIVE EMPLOYEES OR MORE, UH, IT MANDATES THAT THE 12 WEEKS OF LEAVE CAN BE TAKEN SMALL INCREMENTS ONE TO TWO HOURS.
SO IT CAN GO ON FOR QUITE A LONG TIME.
UM, IT'S GOT A LOT OF OPPOSITION DOESN'T APPEAR ON YOUR REPORT, BUT WE CONTINUE TO WATCH IT CLOSELY AND I'LL BE WATCHING.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY NEW THING.
[14. ACTIVITIES REPORTS/COMMENTS OF COUNCILMEMBERS:]
COUNCIL MEMBER KENDRICK.HOW ABOUT YOUR TEAM'S REPORT, COUNSELOR BARBARA MACOLA AS REPORTED COUNCIL NUMBER GLOBAL AS REPORT DEPUTY MAYOR PHIL ORTIZ AS REPORTED.
THERE ARE NO JOINT COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS TODAY.
THERE ARE NO GENERAL INFORMATION ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION.
THERE ARE NO FIRST OR SECOND READINGS OF ORDINANCES ON TODAY'S AGENDA AND THERE ARE NO CLOSED SESSION ITEMS. SO THIS BRINGS US TO THE GERMAN OF THE REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE ALCON ON CITY COUNCIL.
I'LL CALL HOUSING AUTHORITY, SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE ALCOHOL REDEVELOPMENT AND SEE HOW THIS 11TH DAY OF AUGUST, 2020 IS NOW ADJOURNED UNTIL TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 8TH OF 2020 AT 3:00 PM.
THAT WAS A ALARM, A PRODUCTIVE MEETING, AND I'LL SEE YOU
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IN SEPTEMBER.