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WHEN YOU'RE LIVE, SIR, THEY HAVE TO THEY'RE READY.

WELCOME

[ CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Bill Wells]

TO THE ALCON CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

WE CONTINUE HOLDING REMOTE MEETINGS WHILE THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER CONTINUES TO BE IN EFFECT DUE TO COVID-19 LIKED YOUR MODERATE CITIZENS.

THEY CAN SUBMIT QUESTIONS FOR ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

PUBLIC COMMENTS MAY ALSO BE SUBMITTED THIS TIME AND THEY WILL BE READ AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

DURING THIS MEETING, COMMENTS WILL BE ACCEPTED UP TO THE CONCLUSION OF THE VOTE OF EACH ITEM.

COMMENTS CAN BE SUBMITTED THROUGH THE CITY OF AL COLLINS WEBSITE, WWW.CITYOFALCOHOL.US AT CITY OF ALCOHOL THAT YOU S LOOK UNDER AGENDAS AND MINUTES, GO TO THE VIDEO STREAM AND YOU'LL SEE A BUTTON TO SUBMIT YOUR COMMENTS.

SO AGAIN, I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO SUBMIT THE COMMENTS NOW, SO THEY'LL BE READY WHEN WE GET THERE.

THIS MEETING IS NOW CALLED THE ORDER, AND I'D LIKE TO ASK, THANK YOU, SIR.

GENTLEMEN, WHEN I CALL ON YOUR NAME, WOULD YOU PLEASE STATE THAT YOU'RE A PRECEDENT MAYOR, WEALTH'S DEPUTY MAYOR OR TEAS I'M HERE.

COUNCIL MEMBER GLOBAL COUNCIL MEMBER, KENDRICK AND COUNCIL MEMBER.

MCCLELLAN IS ABSENT FROM TODAY'S MEETING.

ALL RIGHT.

WOULD YOU ALL SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WITH ME AND THEN KEEP A SOUND FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE? READY? BEGIN.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC ON NATIONS.

INDIVISIBLES RURAL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[ POSTINGS: The City Clerk posted Orders of Adjournment of the July 14, 2020, Meeting and the Agenda of the July 28, 2020, Meeting in accordance to State Law and Council/Authority/Successor Agency to the Redevelopment Agency Policy.]

THE CITY CLERK POSTED ORDERS OF A GERMAN OF THE JULY 14TH, 2020 MEETING AND THE AGENDA OF THE JULY 28TH, 2020 MEETING IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY POLICY.

I WOULD LIKE TO ONCE AGAIN, REMIND THE PUBLIC TO SUBMIT THEIR COMMENTS EARLY AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE RECEIVED ON TIME.

AND THESE COMMENTS CAN BE READ AT THE TIME OF THE ITEM IS APPROVED, NO PRESENTATIONS TO THE ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

UM, STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANY AGENDA CHANGES, MR. MAYOR? WE HAVE NO CHANGES TO THE AGENDA COUNCIL, ANY AGENDA? ALRIGHT.

THAT BRINGS US THE

[7. CONSENT ITEMS: Consent Items are routine matters enacted by one motion according to the RECOMMENDATION listed below. With the concurrence of the City Council, a Council Member or person in attendance may request discussion of a Consent Item at this time.]

CONSENT ITEMS. CONSENT ITEMS ARE ROUTINE MATTERS, INACTIVE BY ONE MOTION.

ACCORDING TO THE RECOMMENDATION LIST BELOW WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, A COUNCIL MEMBER OR PERSON IN THE TENANTS MAY REQUEST DISCUSSION OF A CONSENT ITEM AT THIS TIME.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO YOU WISH TO POINT AND CONSENT ITEMS? NOPE.

STAFF.

DO YOU WISH TO POINT TO CONSENT ITEMS? NO, SIR.

ANDREW, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS FOR CONSENT? WE RECEIVED NO COMMENTS FOR CONSENT ITEMS, SIR.

I'M WANTING TO MAKE A MOTION THEN TO APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS. SO MOVED.

OKAY.

BUT YOUR WELLS, YOUR BOAT PLEASE? YES.

DEPUTY MAYOR OR TESE YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER GLOBAL.

YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER KENDRICK.

YES.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

THANKS ANGELA.

ALL RIGHT.

WE ARE QUICKLY MOVING THROUGH THE AGENDA.

WE ARE NOT PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.

ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY, THE ELK ON REDEVELOPMENT APRIL, NOT ON THE AGENDA COMMENTS, REALLY THE ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA RD.

TAKE IT AT THE TIME.

THE ADAM'S HEARD STATE LAW PREEMPTS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ON ITEMS, NOT ON THE AGENDA.

HOWEVER, CITY COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND TO STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS AND AN ITEM MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

ANGELA, WE RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

ANGELA, CAN'T HEAR YOU.

I THINK YOU'RE MUTED.

SAVE UP THAT, SIR.

UM, UH, WE HAVE A COMMENT FOR ITEM FOUR.

I THINK WE'LL, WE'LL DO THAT WHEN WE GET THERE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE, UM, IF SOMEBODY, UM, DOES END UP SITTING IN A PUBLIC COMMENT, WE WILL OPEN IT UP AGAIN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE IN THIS STRANGE FORMAT THAT EVERYBODY HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD IF THEY WANT TO BE.

SO IF YOU HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT, GO AHEAD AND SUBMIT IT NOW.

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UM, THERE ARE NO WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS.

WE HAVE NO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

WE HAVE THREE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

ITEM FOUR

[4. Hillside Park Pilot Parklet RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council approves the Hillside Park Pilot Parklet Plan.]

IS FOR THE HILLSIDE PARK PILOT PARKLET PLAN.

I'LL ASK STAFF TO INTRODUCE THIS ITEM.

THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD ALLITERATION THERE.

THE PILOT PARKVILLE PARK PILOT PARKLAND.

YES.

THANK YOU.

MAYOR FRANK CARSON, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT THIS TODAY.

UM, WE ARE CALLING IT A PILOT PARK PROJECT FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS, AND I HOPE TO, TO DELINEATE THAT TO YOU THIS AFTERNOON.

UM, SO HE'LL SAY PARK IS ONE OF OUR LARGEST PARTS OF OUR CITY HAS A LOT OF OPEN SPACE AREAS AND WE DO WANT TO CAPITALIZE ON THAT FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.

WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF NATURE AREAS FOR US CITIZENS.

SO WE WANT TO EDUCATE OUR COMMUNITY ON NATURE, GETTING IN TOUCH WITH NATURE, BUT ALSO EXPAND ACTIVE RECREATION OPPORTUNITIES IN THE PARK.

UM, THIS PILOT PARKLET AND THE PILOT PARKLET IS THAT WE STILL WANT TO GET COMMUNITY INPUT AND WE ALSO WANT TO GET VOLUNTEER SUPPORT TO ACTUALLY BUILD IT.

UM, SO THAT'S WHY IT'S MORE OR LESS CALLED A PILOT PART OF IT.

WE'RE TRYING SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IN OUR CAPACITY BUILDING IN TERMS OF PARK DESIGN AND SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH, UH, OUR FOUR KABOOM PLAYGROUNDS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE CITY, AS WELL AS OUR TWO FIRST FIVE COMMISSION PLAYGROUND GRANTS THAT WERE NET.

UM, SO THIS PIE PARKLET IS WHAT WE ARE SUGGESTING GIVEN RECENT FEEDBACK FROM OUR ALCOHOLIC PLAN 2030 IS THAT WE HAVE AN UNFENCED OFF-LEASH DOG PARK AREA AND I'LL SHOW WHERE THIS WOULD BE ON A MAP.

IT'S NOT A TOPOGRAPHIC MAP, BUT, UM, I'LL EXPLAIN IT TO YOU IN JUST A LITTLE BIT.

UH, WE ALSO DID TO GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK THAT PEOPLE WANT A SPECIFIC MOUNTAIN BIKING OR BMX COURSE AREA, A PUMP TRACK TYPE OF ITEM.

SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS, UM, AS, AS AN OPTION, AS WELL AS SOME MORE NATURE EXPLORATION AREAS.

UM, LASTLY, I'LL ADD IN SOME STUFF ABOUT A PLAYGROUND AREA GRANT THAT WE WERE AWARDED AND WE'RE ALSO WAITING FOR SOME NET MATCHING FUND GRANT FUNDING FOR IT.

AND I'LL WALK YOU THROUGH SOME OF THAT MATCHING FUND GRANT MATCHING FUND GRANT FUNDING THAT WE HAVE ALSO.

UH, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I DO WANT TO THINK OUR GIS DIVISION, UH, TIM WILLIAMS AND GREG SMITH FOR HELPING CREATE THIS WITH US.

UH, THEY ACTUALLY WENT OUT TO THE SITE WITH US SEVERAL TIMES.

WE'VE WALKED THE SITE WITH MANY DIFFERENT MEMBERS, FIRE POLICE, AS WELL AS PUBLIC WORKS, JUST TO GET EVERYBODY'S INPUT.

UM, WE'VE ALSO DONE ONE-ON-ONE QUALITATIVE INTERVIEWS WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ACTUALLY USE THIS PARK SITE AND USE A LOT OF THIS TRAIL SYSTEM.

UM, SO IN THE LARGE YELLOW AREAS WHERE WE'RE SUGGESTING IT WOULD BE AN AWFULLY DOG PARK IT'S ON EVEN AN UNFENCED.

WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WORK WITH VOLUNTEERS ONE DAY TO PUT IN WOOD POSTS AND PUT IN A ROPE.

SO IT'S A DESIGNATED AREA.

SO PEOPLE KNOW, OKAY, THIS, THIS AREA WITH A ROPE IS FOR OFF LEASH DOGS, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA REALLY KEEP DOGS FROM, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE A FENCE TYPE OF THING.

SO DOGS WILL BE ABLE TO ROAM FREE.

MANY CITIES ARE DOING THIS, YOU SEE THIS IN BOBO PARK, AS WELL AS IN A DOG BEACH AREA WHERE IT'S, UH, IT'S UNFENCED, DOWNTOWN, OKLAHOMA AND THEIR MEMORIAL PARK, THEY HAVE THIS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO EXPLORE THIS OPPORTUNITY HERE AT THIS LOCATION TO ADD TO A SECOND LOCATION WHERE WE DO HAVE A DOG OFF LEASH, DOG INTEREST AND OPPORTUNITY FOR A COMMUNITY.

UM, THE LARGER BLUE AREA THAT YOU SEE ON THE MAP HERE IS WHERE WE HAVE ALREADY CLEARED SOME NON-NATIVE DEBRIS.

AND WE'VE DONE THAT WITH THE YELLOW AREA AS WELL.

UH, WE WERE, WE HAD, UH, EVASIVE SPECIES THROUGHOUT THAT AREA.

UM, SO WE WERE ABLE TO CLEAR OUT A LOT OF THE NON NATIVE, UM, OUT OF THE AREA, BUT STILL KEEP, UM, PLANTS WITHIN THAT AREA.

UH, BUT WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE CAN UTILIZE THIS WITH EXISTING RESOURCES TO CREATE, UH, A BMX PUMP TRACKS POTENTIALLY.

UM, AND THEN YOU SEE A NEW TRAIL SYSTEM THAT WE WOULD WORK WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, POTENTIALLY WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR, OUR FIRE CHIEF, BUT THERE'S OTHER OPPORTUNITIES TO, UH, TO POTENTIALLY HELP CREATE A TRAIL SYSTEM.

UM, THAT'S THAT REALLY LONG AREA THAT YOU SEE, UM, THAT THE TRAIL SYSTEM THAT EVEN HAS THE SWITCHBACKS, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD HOPE TO MORE FORMALIZE A TRAIL SYSTEM RIGHT THERE.

UH, THE PINK AREAS WOULD BE OUR NATURE PLAY AREAS.

AND THESE, THIS IS A CRITICAL COMPONENT.

I'LL GO OVER THAT IN JUST A SECOND.

BUT THROUGHOUT THIS PARK, WE WOULD HAVE ENGAGING PIECES, UH, SIGNAGE.

UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF GRANT FUNDING WE CAN COMPETE ONCE WE HAVE A BASIC CLAIM LIKE THIS IN PLACE.

UH, SO IT'S NOT LIKE A PIE IN THE SKY IDEA.

IF WE HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE, THEN THERE'S MORE GRANT FUNDING THAT WE CAN COMPETE FOR, OR ACTUALLY HAVE ALLOCATED TO US ALREADY.

AND I'LL GO OVER THAT AS WELL.

SO

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OUR PROP 68 FUNDING, WE WERE JUST NOTIFIED LAST WEEK AFTER I SUBMITTED THIS AGENDA ITEM OF A MEETING.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAD A MEETING ON FRIDAY, JULY 24TH, FROM TWO TO 5:00 PM WITH A STATE ALONG WITH ABOUT 50 OTHER AGENCIES, THEY'RE DOING 50 AGENCIES PER, AND THIS IS PR PROUD OF THAT FUNDING.

SO TO REMEMBER THE VOTERS VOTED THIS IN, IN JUNE OF 2018.

AND PART OF THAT IS THERE'S GOING TO BE COMPETITIVE FUNDING.

THIS IS THE NONCOMPETITIVE FUNDING.

SO THIS IS MONEY THAT WE ARE GUARANTEED RIGHT HERE FROM THAT.

SO EVERY AGENCY WILL BE GETTING $177,952 EVERY AGENCY.

NOW, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE, OUR CITY HASN'T BEEN ALLOCATED AN ADDITIONAL $64,384 AND 37 CENTS.

THE REASON WHY I WANT TO MAKE SURE I BRING THAT UP IS THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO, WHEN WE SUBMIT REPORTS AND DO ALL THE LEGWORK FOR IT, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO TWO SEPARATE FORMS FOR THOSE TWO DIFFERENT FUNDINGS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE BOTH NOT COMPETITIVE, WE'RE BOTH AWARDED THAT GRANT.

NOW BEING THAT HILLSIDE IS NOT IN THE SEVERELY DISADVANTAGED AREA.

UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE A 20% MATCH AND MOST OF OUR AREAS ARE NOT IN THESE CATEGORIES, BUT THIS MATCH CAN BE DONE THROUGH OUR, OUR VOLUNTEERS THAT WE WOULD USE FOR OFF-LEASH DOG AREA TO HELP US DESIGN THAT AND BUILD THAT SAME WITH OUR BMX COURSE, UH, EARLIER THIS YEAR, UH, THAT SAME EFFORT MADE BY OUR CITY STAFF, UH, IN AT LEAST IN INFORMAL TALKS WITH THE STATE ON FRIDAY, THEY WOULD COUNT THAT.

SO ANYTHING, ANY EFFORTS MADE AFTER JUNE, 2018 WILL COUNT.

SO WE HAD A BIOLOGIST OUT THERE WHICH WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO, TO DO ANY KIND OF, UH, OPEN SPACE CLEARING.

UM, WE ALSO HAD CITY CREWS OUT THERE DOING THAT CLEARING.

SO ALL OF THAT, LIKE CITY CREWS, THE BIOLOGISTS AND VOLUNTEER EFFORTS, THAT'S ALL INCLUDED IN THE MASH THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY APPLY TO THIS.

SO IT WORKS IN OUR BENEFIT BEYOND THAT.

I WANT TO MORE EXPLAIN THE NATURE EXPLORATION AREA.

SO IN BELLVILLE PARK, UM, THIS IS ONE EXAMPLE, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY A COLLEAGUE OF MINE SHARED, SHARED THEIR PHOTO OF THEIR NATURE EXPEDITIONARY AND MORTGAGE FIELD.

AND THIS IS WHERE YOU WILL CONSIDER IT A NATURE PLAYGROUND.

YOU CAN USE WOOD STUMPS, WE CAN USE LARGE PALM FRONDS.

UM, THERE'S A LOT OF OBJECTS THAT WE CAN USE.

WE CAN PUT IN LARGE BOULDERS OR MOVE BOULDERS TO SPECIFIC AREAS.

SO INSTEAD OF HAVING A ROCK CLIMBING WALL, WE CAN HAVE A BOULDER WHERE KIDS CAN EXPLORE ON, UM, THIS HAS BEEN A MOVEMENT IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION INDUSTRY FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS AND THE, THE TERMINOLOGIES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PREVENT NATURE DEFICIT DISORDER.

SO CONNECTING OUR COMMUNITY TO NATURE.

UM, LAST YEAR WE DID COMPETE AND WE WERE AWARDED A TRAINING GRANT WHERE WE SENT STAFF, UM, NOT ONLY TO WASHINGTON DC, BUT OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY, UH, THROUGH THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES AND THE CHILDREN NATURE NETWORK TO LEARN HOW TO FACILITATE THIS.

SO IF YOU REMEMBER FROM THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, I INTRODUCED YOU TO MR. FALL MALO.

HE GOES BY MALO, BLUETOOTH.

UH, HE'S, HE'S ACTUALLY TAKING A LEAD.

HE'S ONE OF OUR EXPERTS THAT HAS BEEN TRAINED BY THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES TO INTRODUCE THESE NATURE AREAS.

UM, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TARGETING DOING AT HILLSIDE PARK.

UM, MODEL HAS CREATED RELATIONSHIPS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

UH, HE'S ALREADY IDENTIFIED ITEMS THAT WILL BE DONATED LIKE THE SMOOTH OUT LOGS THAT WHAT YOU SEE HERE.

SO THESE ARE, THESE ARE ITEMS THAT WE WOULD HOPE TO INTRODUCE PART OF THE PROP 68 NONCOMPETITIVE FUNDING IS THAT I FIRST HAVE TO PASS A RESOLUTION BEFORE I DID THAT.

I AT LEAST WANTED TO INTRODUCE YOU TO THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE GOING WITH IT.

SO EITHER THE FIRST MEETING AUGUST OR THE FIRST MEETING, SINCE SEPTEMBER, YOU'LL SEE A RESOLUTION COME YOUR WAY TOWARD THIS.

WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON USING ANY GENERAL FUND MONEY, UH, FOR THIS EFFORT.

UH, IT WOULD ALL BE GRANT FUNDED.

SO WHEN I SAY GRANT FUNDED, WE WERE AWARDED LAST FALL AND PLAY CORE GRANT AND PLAY CORE IS A PLAYGROUND MANUFACTURER.

AND WE HAVE, WE WROTE THAT GRANT FOR, THIS IS WHAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE AS THE FOOTPRINT FOR PLAYGROUND AT HILLSIDE PARK, HILLSIDES PARK IS THE LAST PART THAT HAS A RECREATION CENTER THAT DOES NOT HAVE A PLAYGROUND.

UH, AND YOU HEARD THAT RIGHT? THAT PART'S BEEN THERE FOR ALMOST 50 YEARS AND IT DOES NOT HAVE A PLAYGROUND.

AND IT'S THE LAST REC CENTER WITHOUT ONE.

SO OUR EFFORT HAS BEEN THE LAST TWO YEARS OF TARGETING THAT SITE FOR A GRANT.

WE WERE SHOVEL-READY GRANT FOR KABOOM, BUT WE WERE AWARDED THIS GRANT THROUGH CLAY COURT.

UM, SO IF YOU REMEMBER, WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, WE ADDED THIS FOOTPRINT, THIS WAS A CIP PROJECT.

SO IT WAS A $40,000 CIP PROJECT WHERE WE PUT THIS FOOTPRINT IN FOR PLAYGROUND TO MAKE US COMPETITIVE FUNDING FOR A PLAYGROUND WE NEEDED TO HAVE THIS FOOTPRINT PLACE.

SO YOU'LL SEE THE ADA RAMP THERE.

THESE ARE ALL PARTS TO WHAT WE WOULD NEED TO ACTUALLY GET THE GRANT.

SO THIS IS A 100% MATCH GRANT.

SO IF WE WOULD SPEND $50,000 MATCH

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FROM THE PROP 68 FUNDING, THEN THEY WOULD MATCH THAT WE SPEND A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM PROP 68 GRANT FOR THIS PLAYGROUND.

AND THEY DON'T FINISH THE COURSE.

IF WE CHOOSE THAT OPTION, THEN, UM, THEY WOULD MATCH THAT.

UM, AND WE WOULD MORE HAVE TO PAY FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OR THE INSTALLATION OF IT, WHICH SHOULDN'T BE TOO BAD.

UM, IT'S USUALLY MORE OR LESS THE OBJECTS THAT WE WOULD GET, OR THE MENTEES THAT WE WOULD GET.

BUT THIS, THIS COMMUNITY IS DEFINITELY VERY HUNGRY.

UM, I'M ASKED OFTEN, UH, WHEN ARE WE GETTING FLOODED AROUND HERE, ESPECIALLY AFTER WE GOT THE FOOTPRINT IN PLACE.

SO EVEN THOUGH WE'RE SHOVEL READY, UH, AND WE HAVE GRANTS OTHER PLACES, THIS ONE'S A GUARANTEE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING IN THIS DIRECTION, IF YOU DO APPROVE THIS BASIC PLAN IN PLACE RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

I KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT, SO I'LL LET ANGELA ALSO ADDRESS THAT.

ALRIGHT.

COUNSEL ARE THE, ANY QUESTIONS FOR FRANK AND THEN ONE QUESTION FOR YOU.

SO IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU WERE SAYING THAT, UM, FOR THAT 20% MATCHING, WE COULD USE VOLUNTEER HOURS AND HOW DO THEY QUANTIFY THAT IN TERMS OF MONEY? SO I, I, I, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I WANT TO SAY IT'S $26 IN LIKE 12 CENTS AN HOUR PER VOLUNTEER THAT WE WOULD USE.

AND SO I'D HAVE TO HAVE A SIGNAGE, NOT SIGN OFF SHEET.

THERE'S SOME PROTOCOLS WITH THAT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S THE, THE PREVAILING WAGE NUMBER THAT THEY WOULD WANT ME TO CALIBRATE IT.

INTERESTING.

OKAY.

I HAVE NO IDEA.

WE CAN DO THAT.

THAT'S GREAT.

ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION FRANK, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO PUBLIC HEALTH? OKAY.

NICE PRESENTATION.

UM, ANGELA, AND THIS COMMENT IS FROM STEPHANIE HARPER AND SHE WRITES THIS ITEM IS SOMEWHAT OF A SHOCK TO ME, EVEN THOUGH THIS REPORT SHOWS NO FINANCIAL IMPACT NOW TO THE CITY, SOMETIME DOWN THE ROAD, IT WILL.

I THINK IT IS JUST AWFUL OF THE CITY TO WANT TO REDESIGN HILLSIDE PARK BEFORE THEY GET THE REDESIGNS DONE TO WELLS PARK THAT THEY PROMISED FIVE YEARS AGO TO DO THE CITY BUDGETED OVER $1 MILLION OVER TWO DIFFERENT YEAR BUDGETS.

I ASKED WHY THE WORK PROMISE HAS NEVER BEEN DONE.

I WAS TOLD THE MONEY WAS BUDGETED, JUST NEVER ALLOCATED.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? QUESTION MARK.

I MISS, I MUST HAVE MISSED A COUNCIL MEETING WHERE THAT WAS ON AGENDA.

I THINK IT SHOWS EXTREME FAVORITISM TOWARDS SOME PROJECTS THAN OTHERS.

YOU'RE BEING LIKE THAT FRIEND WHO OWES YOU MONEY AND SAYS THEY'RE BROKE, BUT WHO YOU SEE LATER AT THE CASINO TAKE CARE OF WHAT YOU PROMISE TO WHO YOU PROMISED FIRST, DON'T BE SHY STI TO THE CITIZENS THAT LIVE CLOSER TO WELLS PARK.

THEY HAVE BEEN WAITING FIVE YEARS.

END OF COMMENT.

AND NO OTHER COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM.

OKAY.

UM, MAYOR, IF I COULD, UH, JUST GIVE YOU A QUICK SNAPSHOT OF WHAT'S BEEN DONE AT MOST PARK IT, UM, SURE.

REAL QUICK.

SO, UH, IN 2014, 2015, WE ADDED IN THE INDIAN GAMING LOCAL BENEFIT COMMITTEE, UH, REVITALIZATION OF THE ADULT FITNESS CENTER THERE.

WE ALSO HAD THE COMMUNITY DESIGN AND BUILT KABOOM PLAYGROUND.

MARY, YOU WERE THERE AT THE RIBBON CUTTING.

I BELIEVE YOU REMEMBER THAT.

UH, BEYOND THAT WE WERE AWARDED A HOUSING RELATED PARKS PROGRAM GRANT AND 2016.

UM, AND WE ADDED A DOG AGILITY COURSE.

WE ADDED LIGHTING FOR THE PLAYGROUND AS WELL.

DOGGY AGILITY COURSE INCREASED SAFETY FENCING AROUND THOSE AREAS, ADDED SHADE STRUCTURES AT THE DOCK AT THE AT TOOSHIE STRUCTURES AT TWO DIFFERENT DOCK, ACTUALLY THREE-STAGE STRUCTURES AT THE DOG PARK.

UM, SO WE WE'VE DONE A LOT TO AT 2016 POINT, I BELIEVE MS. PARKER MAY BE REFERRING TO THE MAY, 2017, UH, WAS PARK MASTER PLAN WHERE, UM, ALL THE ASPECTS OF PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO HAVE BEEN COMPLETE EXCEPT FOR ONE ITEM.

UM, SO WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING.

WE'VE ADDED THE, THE PART RANGER, UM, SUBSTATION RIGHT THERE.

UH, WE'VE ADDED THE REC SQUAD.

UM, WE'VE ADDED SAFETY PERIMETER FENCING.

WE'VE ADDED LIGHTS TO THE PARKING LOT, UM, AS WELL AS MANY OTHER FEATURES WE'VE DONE THE SEWER LINE.

UH, THE ONLY ITEM THAT WE'RE STILL WAITING ON DOING, AND WE WERE WAITING FOR THE SEWER LINE IS, IS THE BATHROOMS REDESIGNED.

UM, AND THEN PHASE THREE IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING IS WE ARE IN FINAL NEGOTIATIONS WITH US SOCCER FOUNDATION IN TERMS OF BRINGING THEM IN TO DO A HARDSCAPE COURT, AS WELL AS, UM, WE WOULD BE ADDING IN THROUGH CDBG ARTIFICIAL TURF SOCCER COURSE THROUGH OUR OWN SURVEYS OF RESIDENTS THAT UTILIZE WELLS PARK.

WE HAVE OVER 40 SURVEYS JUST THROUGH THEM FOR THOSE EFFORTS.

SO WE'VE MADE CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF, OF

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EFFORT, I BELIEVE SPECIFICALLY, UM, UH, MS. HARPER MIGHT BE REFERRING TO WHAT SHE HAD SEEN, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO IN TERMS OF, UH, LIKE FIVE YEARS AGO, WE MAY HAVE OUTLINED IN A CIP FIVE YEAR PLAN, UM, THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT DOING ALL THE PLAYGROUNDS, UM, YOU KNOW, IN A NON WOOD TYPE OF SURFACE.

SO LIKE A RUBBERIZED SURFACE TYPE OF THING, UH, THAT MONEY WAS NEVER ALLOCATED.

THAT WAS A FIVE YEAR PLAN AND WE DO AN ANNUAL BUDGET.

AND SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS NEVER ALLOCATED.

WE DO AN ANNUAL BUDGET AND IT WAS WITHIN FIVE YEARS, IT WAS TAKEN OFF, UM, AS A POTENTIAL SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE WELLS PARK PLAYGROUND IS 6,000 SQUARE FEET.

IT'S REALLY NOT A GOOD INVESTMENT FOR THAT MONEY.

WE'RE TALKING CLOSE TO 200,000 TO PUT A PLAYGROUND SURFACE ON 6,000 SQUARE FEET.

IT'S NOT A GOOD INVESTMENT AND MONEY.

WE CAN PUT THAT MONEY INTO A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS.

WE CAN PUT IN FOR PICKLE BALL COURTS FOR $200,000 WHERE WE GET GREATER IMPACT FOR THAT.

IT'S, IT'S WISER FOR US TO CONTINUE USING THAT STILL NEW PLAYGROUND AT WELLS PARK WITH A FIBER ENGINEERED WOOD FIBER THAT'S IN PLACE THERE NOW.

UM, I'LL, I'LL STOP NOW FIRST.

SO FRANK, SO THE IMPLICATION WAS THAT, UM, MONEY WAS GOING TO BE DIVERTED FROM FINISHY WELLS PARK TO CHANGE COURSE MIDSTREAM AND THIS NEW PARK.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE.

I THINK THEY'RE THERE THEY'RE SEPARATE ENTITIES.

YES.

WE'VE SPENT SINCE 2014, WE SPENT OVER A MILLION DOLLARS ON WELLS PARK IN DIFFERENT EFFORTS, BUT THE, THE MONEY WE'RE GETTING FOR THE HELP.

OH.

SO I PARKED HIS GRANT MONEY.

RIGHT.

SO YOU WOULD STILL HAVE TO PROVE THAT THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE RESOLUTION THAT WOULD COME WITH THE NEXT TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS, AS WELL AS ANY FUTURE CONTRACTS WITH STATE WOULD, WOULD SEND OUR WAY.

UM, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST IN THE BEGINNING PHASE OF IT.

I JUST, IN ORDER FOR ME TO START THAT GRANT APPLICATION, I HAVE TO AT LEAST GET INITIAL APPROVAL FROM THE COUNCIL.

I APPRECIATE YOU CLARIFYING THAT QUESTION.

YES, SIR.

UM, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME HILLSDALE PARK RECEIVED SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS TO THE LEVEL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT THEN? SO, UH, THE RECREATION CENTER THROUGH PROP H FUNDING, UH, IN 2014 WAS RENOVATED.

THE REASON WHY WE IDENTIFIED HILLSIDE PARK REC CENTER TO BE RENOVATED IS THAT THE ACTUAL BUILDING WAS SEPARATING IN PLACE.

UM, IT WAS A LESS THAN A MILLION DOLLAR RENOVATION.

AND THE REASON WHY WE IDENTIFY THAT REC CENTER OUT OF ALL THE ONES THAT NEED TO BE RENOVATED AT THE TIME WAS BECAUSE THE BUILDING WAS LITERALLY GOING TO FALL APART.

WITHIN THREE YEARS, WE WERE TOLD BY OUR ENGINEERS AT THE TIME.

SO WE HAD TO DO SOMETHING.

SO THEY DID A LARGE COST, WAS PUTTING AN EIGHT FOOT DEEP FRENCH DRAIN.

SO, YOU KNOW, HILLSIDE, UH, PEOPLE INSIDE, WE'RE ALWAYS JOKING, HE'LL SLIDE, BUT, AND NOW THEY HAVE THAT FRONT STRAIN TO AVOID ANY TYPE OF BUILDING SEPARATION AND OTHER PROBLEMS. BUT THE ACTUAL PARK ITSELF, THERE'S BEEN ONLY THAT $40,000 INVESTED IN THAT PLAYGROUND FOOTPRINT, ONLY 40,000 FOR THE LAST, HOW MANY YEARS? AT LEAST 10 YEARS, SIR.

OH, WOW.

OKAY.

SO LONG OVERDUE TO DO SOME IMPROVEMENTS AND THE ACTUAL LANDSCAPE OF THE PARK.

RIGHT.

AND I HAD BEEN, UH, HAVING BEEN PROMISING THE COMMUNITY THAT LIVE RIGHT THERE, BUT I'VE BEEN TELLING THEM THAT I, I I'M MAKING EVERY EFFORT TO PUT A PLAYGROUND IN THERE.

AND SO THIS IS JUST MY, MY EFFORT IN THAT, IN THAT REGARD.

THANKS FRANK.

HEY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? WELL, WE DON'T NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO I'M, UH, UH, OPEN TO A OR MORE DISCRETION.

I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTS THE HILLSDALE PARK PILOT PARKLET PLAN.

SECOND MAYOR WHEELCHAIR VOTE PLEASE.

YES.

DEPUTY MAYOR KEITH.

UH, YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER GLOBAL.

YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER KENDRICK.

YES.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

THE NEXT MINISTER REPORT ITEM NUMBER FIVE

[5. Amended Early Termination Agreement with Crisis House RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council considers the next Resolution, in order, approving an amended Early Termination Agreement between the City and Crisis House.]

IS FOR AN AMENDED EARLY LEASE TERMINATION AGREEMENT WITH CRISIS HOUSE STAFF.

WOULD YOU TELL US ABOUT THIS PLEASE? GRAHAM? I THINK HE'S FROZEN OR MUTED

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GRANBY WITH US.

WELL, HE'S WITH THE TECHNICAL PROBLEM.

OKAY.

OKAY.

I'M HERE.

I'M SORRY.

I'M DOING SOMETHING I'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE.

SO A SCREEN SHARE.

SO LET ME GET THAT SHARED.

I'M STRUGGLING TO DO THAT SO WE CAN SEE IT, BUT IT'S JUST, YOU HAVE TO GO TO PRESENTER MODE NOW.

OH, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT NOW.

UM, RIGHT.

SORRY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, AS YOU RECALL, UM, THE CITY OF EL CAHONE OWNS SOME PROPERTY ON MAGNOLIA AVENUE.

THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT WE CURRENTLY LEASE TO CRISIS HOUSE.

WE HAVE BEEN LEASING THE PROPERTY, UH, FOR THE LAST, I THINK, 15 YEARS AT $1 A YEAR.

WE ALSO, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PHOTO, IT'S DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN, THERE'S A VERIZON CELL TOWER.

AND WE ACTUALLY SHARE ABOUT 75% OF THE REVENUE OF THE PROCEEDS FROM THAT THAT CELL TOWER IN IT LAST YEAR WAS 18, ABOUT $18,500 IN REVENUE THAT WE SHARED WITH CRISIS HOUSE FOR THAT, UM, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, AFTER ANALYZING, AFTER REALIZING THAT THE LEASE EXPIRES AT THE END OF NEXT FISCAL YEAR TO BE SPECIFIC JULY 31ST, 2021, WE STARTED ANALYZING WHAT ARE THEIR BETTER HIGHER USES FOR THAT PROPERTY.

AND BASED ON SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH STAFF AND COUNCIL, WE RECOGNIZE THERE'S PROBABLY A VALUE TO NOT RENEW THE LEASE WITH CRISIS HOUSE.

AND BECAUSE OF THAT, WE PROVIDE A NOTICE FORMAL NOTICE TO CRISIS HOUSE ON APRIL 7TH, 2020.

I HAD ACTUALLY BEEN IN VERBAL CONVERSATIONS WITH, UM, MARY KAY, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR CRISIS HOUSE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS PRIOR TO THAT.

BUT WE GAVE FORMAL NOTICE ON APRIL 27TH, AS YOU RECALL, THE CITY PURCHASED THIS PROPERTY WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS AND SPECIFICALLY CAPITAL FUNDS.

AND SO THOSE CAPITAL FUNDS DO LIMIT WHAT WE CAN SPEND ANY PROCEEDS FROM THE SALE OF THAT PROPERTY.

THEY HAVE TO BE SPENT ON CDBG ELIGIBLE CAPITAL PROJECTS.

SO WE CAN'T USE IT FOR PROGRAMS. SO WE CAN'T USE IT FOR, UH, FOR EXAMPLE, TO RUN A HOMELESS SHELTER.

WE CAN'T USE IT TO RUN A RECREATION PROGRAM, BUT WE CAN USE IT TO BUILD THINGS SO WE CAN USE IT TO PURCHASE A PROPERTY FOR AN ORGANIZATION LIKE CRISIS HOUSE.

WE CAN USE IT FOR, UM, PARK IMPROVEMENTS IN ELIGIBLE NEIGHBORHOODS, FOR EXAMPLE, A PICKLE BALL COURTS AT WELLS PARK OR A SKATE SPOT SOMEWHERE IN THE DOWNTOWN OF THE CITY OR AT WELLS PARK.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO USE THE PROCEEDS OF THAT MONEY AND WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING A STAFF WHERE WE RECOMMENDED AT YOUR COUNCIL MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO ON THE 23RD AS WE ENTER INTO AN EARLY TERMINATION AGREEMENT.

I THINK OUR CONCERN IS THAT IF WE WERE TO JUST GIFT MONEY TO CRISIS HOUSE, THAT COULD BE PERCEIVED AS A GIFT OF PUBLIC FUNDS.

AND SO WE NEEDED TO GET SOMETHING OUT OF THAT.

AND SO BY CRISIS HOUSE LEAVING EARLY, IT WOULD ENABLE THE CITY TO PUT THAT PROPERTY UNDER THE MARKET AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

AND THEN AS A BENEFIT, THAT'S HIS HOUSE, IT PROVIDES THEM A FINANCIAL INCENTIVE TO FIND, TO PURCHASE A PIECE OF PROPERTY SO THEY COULD VACATE THE CURRENT PROPERTY THERE THEY'RE LEASING, OTHERWISE THEY CAN BUY OUR LEASE AGREEMENT, STAY AT THE PROPERTY FOR THE DURATION OF THE TERM, WHICH IS AGAIN, JULY 31ST, 2021.

UM, THE AGREEMENT THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED ON JULY ON JUNE 23RD SAID THAT IF CRISIS HOUSE WERE TO ENTER INTO ESCROW OR VACATE BY SEPTEMBER 31ST, THE CITY WOULD GRANT THEM $700,000, UM, INTO AN ESCROW ACCOUNT TO HELP WITH THE PURCHASE OF A PIECE OF PROPERTY.

UM, YEAH, SAME INCENTIVE WAS, OR SIMILAR INCENTIVE, UH, WAS OFFERED FOR VACATING BY DECEMBER 31ST IN THE AMOUNT OF $350,000.

AND BY MARCH 31ST, 2021, $150,000.

SO THOSE AGREEMENTS OR THAT AGREEMENT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL SINCE THAT TIME, NEITHER THE CITY OR CRISIS HOUSE OFFICERS HAVE, UM, SIGNED THE AGREEMENT.

SO IT'S AN AGREEMENT THAT'S STILL HANGING OUT THERE APPROVED, BUT YET, YET

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TO BE EXECUTED, CRISIS HOUSE HAS ASKED FOR SOME, SEVERAL MODIFICATIONS TO THE CURRENT AGREEMENT.

AND SO I'LL JUST WALK THROUGH WHAT THOSE REQUESTS ARE.

UM, ONE IS TO ENTER, UM, FOR THE CITY TO PROVIDE THE INCENTIVE PAYMENT OF $700,000.

IF CRISIS HOUSE WERE TO ENTER INTO ESCROW BY DECEMBER 31ST CLOSE ESCROW BY G AND SUV, 2020 CLOSE ESCROW BY JANUARY 31ST, AND THEN AFTER TWO WEEKS, HAVE IT, OR HAVE A TWO WEEK MOVE OUT PERIOD.

AND SO THEY WOULD ACTUALLY VACATE THE SITE BY FEBRUARY 14TH.

SO THE $700,000 WOULD REQUIRE THOSE THREE DATES TO, UM, BE MET.

UH, THEY ALSO ASKED THE CITY IF WE WOULD CONSIDER, UH, GIVING THEM ALSO AN INCENTIVE TO RELOCATE BY MARCH 31ST OF $350,000.

SO THOSE ARE SORT OF THE TWO REALLY BIG REQUESTS THAT WERE MADE BY CRISIS HOUSE.

UM, BASED ON THAT REQUEST, JUST STAFF HAS, I REPAIRED A MODIFIED EARLY TERMINATION AGREEMENT FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THAT MODIFICATION DOES INCLUDE MO MANY OF THE REQUESTS MADE BY CRISIS HOUSE.

IT DOES INCLUDE THE $700,000 FROM MEETING THAT DECEMBER 31ST, JANUARY 31ST AND FEBRUARY 14TH DEADLINES.

UM, I DID TAKE OUT ANY INCENTIVE PAID TO RELOCATE BY MARCH 31ST.

I FELT THAT THIS WAS SUFFICIENT TIME AND ALSO THAT, UM, AT SOME POINT THERE'S REALLY NOT A LOT OF BENEFIT TO THE CITY FINANCIALLY FOR THEM TO RELOCATE ONLY A FEW MONTHS PRIOR TO THE TERMINATION OF THE AGREEMENT.

ANYWAY, UM, WE DID INCLUDE SOME LANGUAGE IN THE AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWS THE CITY IN CRISIS HOUSE TO WORK WITH A THIRD PARTY, IF THERE'S A THIRD PARTY OPPORTUNITY.

AND THE FIRST AGREEMENT DID NOT CONTEMPLATE THAT, BUT THIS DOES GIVE US SOME, SOME, UM, LEEWAY TO WORK WITH A THIRD PARTY THAT MAY WANT TO HELP CRISIS HOUSE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY OR THE RELOCATED RELOCATION PROPERTY.

AND WE COULD WORK DIRECTLY WITH THEM IF THE COUNCIL WAS NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT RESOLUTION AND THAT AGREEMENT, YOU COULD ALWAYS MODIFY STAFF'S PROPOSAL.

REMEMBER THERE'S A, YOU CAN MOVE THOSE DATES BACK SO YOU CAN MAYBE SET THE DEADLINE, JUST, UH, EVERYTHING VACATED BY JANUARY 31ST, OR YOU COULD SET THE DATE TO DECEMBER 31ST, WHICH WAS SORT OF THE ORIGINAL DATE IN THE ORIGINAL AGREEMENT.

SO THAT COULD BE ANOTHER OPTION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL COULD CONSIDER.

THE OTHER OPTION IS YOU DO NOTHING AND THE EXISTING AGREEMENT STAYS IN PLACE.

AND IF PARTIES DON'T SIGN, THEN THE AGREEMENT NEVER IS EXECUTED, BUT THOSE ARE SORT OF SOME OF THE OPTIONS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MAY WANT TO CONSIDER THIS AFTERNOON AFTER HEARING PUBLIC COMMENT.

UM, ALSO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT CRISIS HOUSE STILL IS ENTITLED TO REMAIN AT THE FACILITY FOR THE FULL TERM OF THE LEASE AGREEMENT THROUGH JULY 31ST, DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME BE PAYING THE $1 PER YEAR, AND THEY'LL CONTINUE TO RECEIVE, UM, REVENUE FROM THE CELL SITE.

SO THAT STILL IS ANOTHER OPTION THAT THEY MAY CHOOSE.

EVEN IF THEY ENTER INTO THIS AGREEMENT, THEY MAY RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S ACTUALLY MORE FINANCIAL INCENTIVE FOR THEM TO DO THAT THEN TO, TO RELOCATE INTO A PURCHASE PROPERTY AND MAYBE LEASING A PROPERTY IS MORE ACCEPTABLE FINANCIALLY TO THEM.

SO THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.

I'M ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

UM, WE'VE ALSO BEEN ABLE TO LINK IN THROUGH OUR ZOOM CONFERENCE, SEVERAL GUESTS FROM CRISIS HOUSE THAT CAN ANSWER SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE OF THEM.

I THINK THEY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SOME COMMENTS AS WELL.

SO ON THE LINE AND AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS ARE MARY CASE, A CRISIS HOUSE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, ROBBIE CORNELL, REAL ESTATE BROKER.

THAT'S CURRENTLY WORKING WITH CRISIS HOUSE.

AND THEN JOSH HILL, A BOARD MEMBER FOR CRISIS HOUSE.

I BELIEVE HE IS CURRENTLY THE TREASURER FOR A CRISIS HOUSE AT THIS TIME.

SO WITH THAT COUNCIL, WE'RE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

GREAT COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS STAFF OR DO WE WANT TO HEAR FROM THE CHRIST HOUSE FOLKS FIRST, I'VE GOT TWO QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

UH, THE FIRST QUESTION IS, ARE WE SURE ARE THE TAXPAYER SURE THAT IF WE OFFER A $700,000, THAT THE VALUE OF THE LAND THAT WE WOULD GET IS WORTH AT LEAST $700,000, UM, I CAN'T GO A HUNDRED PERCENT CONFIDENCE CAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT THE MARKET WILL DO, BUT WE DID HAVE THE PROPERTY APPRAISED, UM, LAST, LAST SPRING.

UM, AND I TESTED THAT WITH THE CURRENT BROKER THAT WE HAVE ON RECORD, THAT'S GOING TO HELP REPRESENT THE PROPERTY AND HE FEELS CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE THAT.

HOWEVER, MR. GOBLE YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.

UM, WE MAY FIND THE BEST USE FOR THE PROPERTY

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COULD YIELD ACTUALLY LESS THAN $700,000.

AND THEN THE CITY WOULD BE ON THE HOOK TO COME UP WITH THAT DIFFERENCE AND WE DON'T HAVE CBG CAPITAL FUNDS AVAILABLE.

SO THAT WOULD BE A GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURE.

IS THERE ANY SENSE WHETHER THIS KIND OF PROPERTY IS, UM, ACCORDING TO THE BROKER? WE THINK THERE ARE SOME, SOME DEMAND FOR THAT PROPERTY.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL I GOT FOR STAFF.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY.

UM, LET'S GO AHEAD.

SPEAK TO, UM, THE FOLKS FROM CHRIST'S HOUSE.

UH, MARY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO START? CAN SHE HEAR ME? YOU'RE UM, THANK YOU.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR WELLS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, YES.

OKAY.

AND STUFF.

UM, AGAIN, I'M MARRIED CASE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF CRISIS HOUSE, UH, AND I'M A HOMEOWNER AND ALCOHOLIC FOR THE PAST 17 YEARS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR RE RECONSIDERING OUR EARLY THESE LEASE TERMINATION AGREEMENT FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH YOU.

I WANT TO START BY TELLING YOU THAT WE'VE TAKEN SIGNIFICANT ACTION TO PREPARE, TO LEAVE THE PREMISES AT 10 34 NORTH MAGNOLIA, OUR HOME FOR THE PAST 26 YEARS, FOR INSTANCE, UM, PACKING EFFORTS ARE WELL UNDERWAY.

AS BROWN CAN ATTEST TO AT HIS LAST VISIT TO THE BUILDING, HAROLD BROWN FROM EAST COUNTY, TRANSITIONAL LENDER LIVING CENTER, AND HIS CREW ARE GOING TO HELP US MOVE THE ELK HOME VALLEY QUANTA'S ARE RUNNING TRUCKS TO MOVE US.

AND WE STOPPED TAKING NEW CLIENTS FOR OUR MAIL SERVICES, UH, FOR THE HOMELESS, WHICH IS A MUCH NEEDED SERVICE.

AND WE STOPPED THAT ON THE 15TH OF JUNE AND IT WILL TERMINATE ON AUGUST 14TH.

UH, IT TAKES QUITE A WHILE TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

THEY CAN'T JUST PUT IN A CHANGE OF ADDRESS.

SO IF THAT'S OUR ADDRESS THAT WE'RE LOANING TO THEM, UH, THIS SHOULD LESSEN TRAFFIC TO THE BUILDING AND HELP ADDRESS SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT THE NEW HOTEL ACROSS THE STREET.

I'VE ALSO BEEN ADVERTISING OUR PROPERTY NEED AND SEARCH, UM, FOR OFF MARKET PROPERTIES, WITH DDC, THE CHAMBER, OUR SOCIAL MEDIA OUTLETS AND SO FORTH.

UH, I WANT TO INTRODUCE ROBBIE AND JOSH.

UM, ROBBIE IS, UM, UH, AS, AS GRAHAM SAID, UM, UH, WORKS FOR HE'S OUR BROKER, UH, AND JOSH IS WORKS FOR CALIFORNIA BANK AND TRUST AS A COMMERCIAL BANKER THERE AND BP.

UM, THESE TWO MEN ARE EXPERTS IN THEIR FIELD IN EAST COUNTY AND THEY ARE HERE TODAY TO SHARE WITH YOU EFFORTS TO FIND OUR EFFORTS, TO FIND THE PROPERTY INFORMATION ABOUT THE MARKET TRENDS AND LENDING.

UM, ROBIN, I'M GONNA COME BACK AFTER THEM, BUT RAVI, WILL YOU PLEASE BEGIN? AND I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT JOSH HAS BEEN A SORT OF CHIME IN, AND THEN WHEN THEY'RE DONE, YOU CAN ASK THEM QUESTIONS.

AND THEN I'D LIKE TO WRAP UP, THINK I WAS DOING MY NAME DROPPING CORNELL.

UH, I'VE BEEN A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE BROKER OUT HERE FOR THE LAST 13 YEARS, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, PROPERTIES IN THE EAST COUNTY MARKET.

UM, I'VE BEEN TELL THE COVID THING HIT.

OUR MARKET WAS RUNNING PROBABLY ABOUT 1% VACANCY RATE, AND YOU CAN PROBABLY LOOK AT DIFFERENT AVENUES OF, YOU KNOW, VACANCY RATES AND, YOU KNOW, QUESTION IT, BUT IN THE EAST COUNTY MARKETPLACE IN ITSELF IS REALLY TIGHT AND SO UP UNTIL THE COVID HIT AND, UH, THINGS SLOWED DOWN, WHICH THEY'VE SLOWED DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY.

UM, WE STILL HAVEN'T SEEN THAT MANY VACANCIES.

IT'S, IT'S VERY RARE THAT THINGS COME UP FOR SALE.

AND WHEN THEY DO COME UP FOR SALE, IT'S PRETTY COMPETITIVE MARKET.

WE RECENTLY HAD A PROPERTY THAT, UH, THE CRISIS HOUSE WAS TOOK A RUN AT.

AND, UH, IT WAS LISTED AT A MILLION, TWO 50, NOT EVEN KNOWING THAT, UH, WHAT THEY WERE, THEY WERE CAPABLE OF PAYING IT ENDED UP SELLING FOR A MILLION, THREE 50 AND THEN THE SELLER CHICAGO OR THE BUYER TOOK ON THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS SOLAR, UM, BASICALLY OBLIGATION THAT WAS PUT INTO THE PROPERTY.

SO, QUOTE UNQUOTE, IS IT ENDED UP GOING FOR A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS HIGHER THAN ASKING.

SO EVEN THOUGH THE OFFICE MARKET IS CHANGING A LOT RIGHT NOW, UH, ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS WE'RE EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW IS IT'S ALMOST LIKE THINGS HAVE COME TO A SCREECHING HALT IN THE OFFICE MARKET BECAUSE CURRENT OWNERS OF OFFICE BUILDINGS, AREN'T READY TO LET THEM GO.

EVEN THOUGH, UH, THEIR TENANTS AREN'T PAYING RENT.

UM, BY THE END OF THIS MONTH, WE'LL SEE WHAT REALLY HAPPENS BECAUSE THE PPP LOANS WERE ONLY IN PLACE FOR A PERIOD OF A FEW MONTHS.

AND BY THE END OF THIS MONTH IS WHEN THAT'S SUPPOSEDLY SUPPOSED TO RUN OUT.

SO WE'RE GONNA, WE'LL SEE THE RESIDUAL EFFECT OF, OF EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED.

BUT, UM, THE EAST COUNTY MARKETPLACE IN ITSELF HAS BEEN, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN VERY COMPETITIVE.

I MEAN, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF BUILDINGS THAT SELL PER YEAR OUT HERE AND WHEN THEY DO THEY'RE EITHER OFF-MARKET OR, YOU KNOW, THEY GET SWOOPED UP QUICKLY.

UM, I WOULD JUST GOING THROUGH, WE

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LOOKED AT ABOUT 11 BETWEEN 11 AND 15 BUILDINGS TOTAL.

UM, HALF THOSE BUILDINGS DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH SPACE IN THEM.

UH, THE OTHER HALF WERE FORM ALL THE MEDICAL FACILITIES, SO THERE NEEDS SIGNIFICANT TIS.

UM, WE'VE IDENTIFIED TWO SMALLER ONES THAT KIND OF HAVE A RETAIL, UM, KIND OF A QUASI RETAIL USE TO HIM.

UM, BUT UH, UPON GETTING INSIDE OF THEM, WE REALIZED THAT THEY'RE COMPLETELY TORN TO THE STUDS AND THEY'LL NEED TO BE PUT BACK.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT SAID, UH, IT'S GONNA BE, WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME, UH, WE'RE GOING TO SEE SOME CHALLENGES TRYING TO GET THEM INTO A BUILDING, UM, JUST DUE TO THE COMPETITIVENESS OF THE MARKET.

I MEAN, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF PEOPLE SIT ON THE SIDELINES, UH, WITH CASH.

AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, MOST OWNERS SELLING BUILDINGS, I'D RATHER GO WITH SOMEBODY THAT HAS CASH THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO GET ALONE.

UM, SO WITH THAT SAID, UM, WE'RE DEFINITELY TRYING HARD TO, YOU KNOW, FIND SOME, WE'VE LOOKED IN LAKESIDE, SANTEE ALGON, SPRING VALLEY, AND DOWN TO LEMON GROVE AND, UH, FIND IT THAT TURNKEY PROPERTY OUT THERE IS IT'S A LOT MORE DIFFICULT THAN, UH, THAN YOU WOULD THINK.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE HOUSING MARKET RIGHT NOW, HOUSING MARK'S ON FIRE, UM, BECAUSE RATES ARE SO LOW.

SO, UM, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO SEE THE RESIDUAL EFFECT OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH COVID FOR ANOTHER SIX TO 12 MONTHS AT THIS POINT.

UM, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE STILL, PEOPLE STILL HAVE MONEY IN THE BANK AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND IT TO HOLD ONTO THEIR ASSETS IF THEY CAN.

IT'S A LOT CHEAPER TO HOLD YOUR BUILDINGS THAN TRY TO GO OUT AND BUY A NEW ONE BECAUSE THE INVESTMENT SIDE OF THE MARKET HAS BEEN WAY DOWN AS WELL.

I MEAN, BY AN INVESTMENT DEAL RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK, YOU'RE GOING TO GET ANY BETWEEN FOUR TO 5% RETURN ON YOUR MONEY.

AND, UM, IT JUST, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE BETTER OFF HOLDING ONTO THEIR PROPERTIES.

SO WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT HAPPEN TO PEOPLE THAT ARE SELLING AND ARE MOVING RIGHT NOW.

THEY HAVE TO MOVE IT'S BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO, BECAUSE A FAMILY MEMBER WANTS TO SELL A BUILDING AND THEY'VE HAD TO MOVE INTO A NEW LOCATION OR, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, FROM WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING, WE IT'S CUT DOWN LIKE, YOU KNOW, HALF THE TENANTS OUT THERE, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE JUST KIND OF HANGING TIGHT AND HOLDING STILL.

SO, UM, JOSH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD IN ABOUT THE LENDING SIDE OF THINGS.

YEAH.

SO JUST TO EVERYONE, MY NAME IS JOSH.

I'M A BOARD MEMBER OR MEMBER OF CRISIS HOUSE, AND I WORK WITH A COMPANY THEY CAN TRUST IN OKLAHOMA, UH, JUST TO KIND OF PICK AN ARC OF WHAT ROBBIE WAS JUST SAYING.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE MARKET, IT IS IT'S CHALLENGING RIGHT NOW FOR THE PRICE POINT THAT WE GOT TO LOOKING IN AND GIVEN THE TIMELINE THAT WE HAVE TO CLOSE OUR PROVINCE TO GET THE PROCEEDS.

THAT MEANS THEY WOULD HAVE TO FIND SOMETHING WITHIN THE NEXT 60 DAYS OR SO TO GET AN ESCROW.

AND THEN THE BANK WOULD HAVE TO CLOSE AND ROUGHLY 60 DAYS, WHICH I CAN TELL YOU FROM A LENDING PERSPECTIVE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT REALLY QUOTING 60 DAY CLOSES.

WE'RE CLOSER TO 75 TO 90 DAYS.

IT'S JUST GIVEN THE ENVIRONMENT HE LOANS.

UH, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING FROM HOME, WHICH CERTAINLY KIND OF SLOWS DOWN CAPACITY TO A LITTLE BIT, AS WE ALL KNOW, KIDS WON'T BE GOING BACK TO SCHOOL IN AUGUST, BUT WE DON'T REMOTE.

SO IT'S JUST A BIT OF A CHALLENGE FROM THE BANKING SIDE TO CLOSE WITHIN A 60 DAY WINDOW.

AND IT'S FRANKLY, HIGHLY UNLIKELY WE COULD DO.

SO YOU'RE PROBABLY CLOSER TO 90 DAYS IN REALITY.

UM, SO WHAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON, UH, AS YOU KNOW, THEY LOOKED AT OUR PROPERTY A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, THEY ROUNDED ON IT AND THEY COME IN, THEY'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING FROM YOUR PROPERTIES.

THEY, THEY WANNA, THEY WANT TO USE THIS MONEY, BUT IT'S PIVOTAL THAT THEY FIND SOMETHING WITHIN 60 DAYS, WHICH IS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE.

UH, WE, FROM THE BANKING SIDE, I DON'T THINK ARE REALLY GOING TO REALIZE THE FALLOUT OF BPPP AND THE COVID, UH, MESS UNTIL PROBABLY MIDDLE OF NEXT YEAR.

THAT'S BEEN PROPERTIES GOING TO START TO POP UP, GO ON SALE.

YOU MAY SEE SOME DISCOUNTING GOING ON.

UM, BUT IT IS A CHALLENGE RIGHT NOW TO MEET THE TIMELINE THAT WE HAVE IN DECEMBER TO GET THEM CLOSED ON A PROPERTY, JUST TO FIND A PROPERTY AND ALSO FROM THE BANKING SIDE TO GET THEM WRAPPED UP.

YEAH.

SO ALSO TO ADD TO, SO I JUST CLOSED A DEAL IN THE UNINCORPORATED PART OF ALCOHOL, UM, AND THAT'S, WE DID IT WITH AN SBA LOAN WHERE, YOU KNOW, BANK FINANCING AND WE PUT CONTINGENCIES IN THERE TO GIVE IT EXTRA TIME.

ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT THE BANK'S BEEN HAVING IS, IS THAT BANK ATTORNEYS ARE SO TIED UP WITH THE PPP DAWNS AND THE EID LOANS THAT WHEN YOU'RE GETTING INTO THE QUEUE TO GET, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR LOAN DOCUMENTS REVIEWED, THEY GIVE YOU TWO OPTIONS.

THEY SAY, LOOK, YOU CAN WAIT A FULL 30 DAYS, TYPICALLY IT'S TWO WEEKS, BUT FOR 30 DAYS AND WE'LL REVIEW IT OR YOU CAN PAY AN EXTRA FIVE GRAND TO AN OUTSIDE ATTORNEY, WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO THEM.

AND THEN WE'LL LET YOU GUYS GO AHEAD AND, UH, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY PAYDAY SPEED IT UP.

UM, BUT WE WERE FINDING THAT MOST PEOPLE, MOST BUYERS CAN'T DO THAT OR DON'T WANT TO DO IT.

AND SO WE'VE, WE'VE JUST PUT EXTRA EXTENSION TIMES INTO ALL OUR, UH, ALL OUR ESCROW SITUATIONS.

IT'S A LOT HARDER TO GET PHASE ONE'S DONE.

APPRAISALS ARE SLOWED DOWN AND THEN EVEN APPRAISERS RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT WORRIED, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T WANT TO MAKE A MISTAKE ON THEIR STUFF, SO THEY'RE TAKING LONGER.

UM, SO IT'S BEEN VERY, UH, IT'S

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BEEN, IT'S BEEN VERY INTERESTING.

I MEAN THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE, ENVIRONMENT'S CHANGING COMPLETELY.

UM, JUST, JUST LIKE ALL OUR WORLD IS CHANGING.

UM, YOU KNOW, SOME MORE BACKGROUND ON MYSELF.

UM, I ACTUALLY MET MARY FROM, YOU KNOW, I WORK WITH HAMOT CONSTRUCTION.

I WORK WITH MCGRATH FAMILY AND ALSO THE CAMERON FAMILY IN WHICH THEY OWN A MAJORITY OF THEIR STUFF AND SANTEE, BUT THEY OWN STUFF ALL OVER.

UM, SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TALKING TO AS MANY OWNERS AS WE CAN DIRECTLY ABOUT THEIR SPECIFIC NEED TO SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING.

UH, THE BIGGEST THING FOR US IS, YOU KNOW, PRICE WISE, THE PRICE IS WHAT IT IS, BUT IF WE CAN GET ENOUGH TIME FROM AN OWNER BY NOT PUTTING, BUILDING ON THE MARKET AND SAYING, HEY, WORK WITH US, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE, UH, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO PULL OUR STRINGS TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US.

UM, I DO.

OKAY.

UM, WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT NUMBERS AS FAR AS DAYS AGO.

WHAT'S A REALISTIC TIME.

SO A REALISTIC TIME TO BE IN THE ESCROW OR TO CLOSE THE DEAL TO BE, TO BE OUT, TO BE, TO, TO BE FINISHED.

YEAH.

WELL, TO BE DEAD HONEST WITH YOU, JOSH AND I OFF THE RECORD, WE'RE TALKING AND WE WERE THINKING, YOU KNOW, JUNE OF NEXT YEAR, WHICH SOUNDS CRAZY COMPARED TO WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, BUT I MEAN, TYPICAL, TYPICAL ASGROWS YOU GOT 30 DAYS DUE DILIGENCE, YOU GET INTO A DEAL, YOU GOT 30 DAYS FREE LOOK TO LOOK AT IT, FINANCING FROM A FINANCING STANDPOINT FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S EXTREMELY QUALIFIED, UM, BEFORE COVID, YOU'RE AT LIKE 65 TO 75 DAYS TO GET YOUR LOAN IN PLACE.

NOW WE'RE GOING 75 TO 90, LIKE JOSH SAID.

AND PART OF THAT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU GET 60 DAYS IN AND SOMETIMES THE BANKS ARE LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE NEED MORE INFORMATION OUT OF YOU.

AND THEN THEY, SO WE GOT TO PROVIDE A LOT MORE STUFF THAN WE DID BEFORE.

UM, YOU KNOW, SO IN A PERFECT WORLD, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN YOU'RE 90 DAYS, UH, YOU KNOW, 34 PHYSICALS BENCH, PHYSICAL, UH, YOUR PHYSICAL CONTINGENCY, YOU'RE ANOTHER 90 FOR YOUR FINANCING.

AND THEN 30 DAYS OF CLOTHES AFTER THAT.

SO YOU'RE LIKE 180 DAYS TOTAL ON THE PROCESS, UM, IN A PERFECT WORLD.

EVERYBODY LIKES TO SHORTEN THAT UP IF THEY CAN.

BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THAT.

I UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES THAT YOU HAVE, WHICH ARE SIGNIFICANT.

UH, THE PROBLEM FOR US IS THAT, UM, THE $700,000 IS AN INCENTIVE.

NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, SHAVING OFF ONE MONTH RIGHT.

OF, OF THE, UH, THE TIMEFRAME.

SO IT'S, UH, THE COUNCIL OFFICE TO DISCUSS IT FOR THAT.

I THINK THAT'S PROBLEMATIC.

SURE.

I MEAN, OUR GOAL IS TO FIND SOME AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND, AND, YOU KNOW, MARY AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ON ALMOST ON A DAILY BASIS AND THE OTHER ISSUE WE HAVE TOO, IS IT LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU TAKE ONE OF THE OPTIONS THAT'S OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.

UM, FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S THIS LITTLE PROPERTY ON BROADWAY, IT'S 3,400 FEET.

IT'S ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF THOUSAND FEET LESS THAN WHAT SHE'S IN RIGHT NOW.

SHE'S JUST GOING TO SQUEEZE INTO IT.

IT'S BUILT OUT NO 11 PRIVATE ROOMS THAT WERE FOR A DOCTOR'S OFFICE.

SO WE'RE GONNA, I MEAN, IT'S GOT SINKS IN EVERY ROOM AND WHATNOT.

SO TO, YOU KNOW, COULD YOU FIND SOMETHING TO BUY SOMETHING? SURE.

BUT COULD YOU MOVE RIGHT INTO IT? PROBABLY NOT.

UM, AND THOSE ARE THE OTHER SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES YOU'D COME UP AGAINST.

UH, LIKE I SAID, THE ONE TURNKEY PROPERTY ON ALCOHOL AND BOULEVARD ENDED UP SELLING FOR A COUPLE HUNDRED THOUSAND OVER ASKING.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST KIND OF THE WAY OF THE WORLD RIGHT NOW.

SO, UM, FINDING SOMETHING AFFORDABLE, UH, IN, I ALWAYS LIKE TO TELL PEOPLE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CALIFORNIA SAN DIEGO REAL ESTATE MARKET IS, UH, IS PRETTY, IS PRETTY CHALLENGING.

YEAH.

AND I DON'T THINK, UM, IT'S A MATTER OF, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING FOR A PROPERTY AND INTENTIONALLY FINDING ONE, IT'S JUST DOING IT WITHIN A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME, BUT I'M SENDING YOU GUYS WANT THEM TO PICK AT THE PROPERTY TO DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH IT.

SO IS THERE ANY WAY WITH THEM VACATING THE PROPERTY EARLY TO STILL GIVE YOU GUYS THE INCENTIVE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR TO JUST EXTEND THE TIME THAT THEY CAN ACCESS ACCESS TO THE MONEY? BECAUSE CERTAINLY THE MARKET IS, AND ONLY BEAR ONE IT'LL BEAR.

AND WHEN THEY FIND SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD COMPETE ON, THEY CERTAINLY WILL.

UM, BUT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN FIND A PROPERTY THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THEM AND WHAT THEY DO ON YOUR PROPERTY THAT NEEDS SIGNIFICANT TICP IMPROVEMENTS MAY NOT BE THE BEST THING FOR THEM.

THEY DON'T WANT TO DISRUPT OPERATIONS FOR TOO LONG.

UH, BUT CERTAINLY I KNOW THEY WANT TO ACCOMMODATE YOU WITH GETTING OUT OF SPACE, REALLY FOR THE INCENTIVE MONEY, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING IN RETURN TO GET A LITTLE MORE LEEWAY TO ACCESS THAT $700,000.

SO, MARY, DO YOU HAVE A CONCEPT OF WHAT THE ASK IS? SO, UM, I, UM,

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THE CONCERN, ONE OF THE CONCERNS PROBABLY I'D CALL A MAJOR CONCERN IN THE NEW AGREEMENT IS, UM, THE INCLUSION OF ROMANO ROMAN NUMERAL NUMBER FOUR, UNDER SECTION ONE, LEASE TERMINATION A, UH, THE NEW AGREEMENT.

UM, I BELIEVE I HAVE NOT HAD THIS REVIEWED BY AN ATTORNEY, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S SAYING THAT WE CAN ONLY RECEIVE THE INCENTIVE PAYMENT FOR, UH, LEAVING EARLY.

WE PURCHASED BEFORE DECEMBER 30TH AND CLOSED ASPRO BY JANUARY 30.

FIRST ONE CLARIFICATION IS THE CLOSING OF JANUARY 31ST WAS NOT A REQUEST OF OURS.

WHEN I ASKED FOR THE, MOVING IT BACK TO THE SEPTEMBER, I WAS KIND OF EXPECTING THE SAME LANGUAGE TO ENTER, UH, TO, TO PURCHASE BY DECEMBER 30TH ENTER AND TO ASK AND TO ANSWER IN JASPER.

AND, UM, AND THAT LANGUAGE CHANGED.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT, UM, UH, IF, YOU KNOW, THE THOUGHT IS THAT IF THE CITY IS STILL, UM, IF THE INTENTION IS STILL TO HELP CRISIS HOUSE WITH OUR RELOCATION, BY PROVIDING AN INCENTIVE PAYMENT TO LEAVE EARLY, THEN WE THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO REALIZE THE FULL 700,000 AND IN SEVEN PAID IN THE INCENTIVE PAYMENT TO MAKE A PURCHASE AT A FUTURE TIME BY BAKING, GETTING THE PROPERTY AS AGREED TO BY DECEMBER 31ST.

I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE'RE REALLY MOTIVATED TO PURCHASE A BUILDING.

THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS VACATE AND RENT WITH OUR FUNDS, UH, AND THEN MOVE OUR OPERATIONS TWICE.

WE'RE PREPARED TO DO THAT IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THE INCENTIVE PAYMENT TOWARD A FUTURE PURCHASE.

CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT MONEY TO, UH, FOR A DOWN PAYMENT.

THIS IS NOT EXPECTED.

SO, UM, SO OUR, OUR INTEREST IS TO, TO RETAIN THE SPIRIT OF THE AGREEMENT AND ELIMINATE THAT LANGUAGE FROM ROMAN NUMERAL NUMBER FOUR, AND ADD LANGUAGE BACK TO ROMAN NUMERAL ONE THAT ALLOWS US TO USE THE INCENTIVE PAYMENT TOWARD A FUTURE PURCHASE IN EXCHANGE FOR LEAVING BY DECEMBER 30TH.

WE WOULD REALLY, WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE EXTENSION OF TIME FROM SEPTEMBER 30TH AND THE LAST TO BRING IT TO DECEMBER 31ST AND THIS ONE, UM, WHICH WE REQUESTED AND, UH, TO GAIN TIME FOR OUR PROPERTY SEARCH.

BUT IN REALITY, WE REALLY ONLY GAINED ABOUT A MONTH BECAUSE, UM, THE NEW DEADLINE OF CLOSING ESCROW KIND OF CHANGED THAT.

SO TO BE CLOSED BY 31ST, UM, UH, WE WOULD NEED TO ENTER ESCROW BY DECEMBER FOR NOVEMBER 1ST BASED ON WHAT YOU'VE HEARD THE 90 DAY TO SAFELY CLOSE ASPRO BY THE JANUARY 31ST, CONSIDERING THE HOLIDAYS UNFORESEEN ISSUES.

THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING WE HAVE TO DO EVEN EARLIER, IF, IF THERE ARE TENANT IMPROVEMENTS, UM, UH, BECAUSE WE REALLY WOULD NEED TO DO SOMETHING LIKE TOMORROW BECAUSE IN ORDER FOR US TO GET THOSE 10 IMPROVEMENTS HAPPENING AND, YOU KNOW, I, I NEED TO HAVE THE FINANCING ALL TAKEN CARE OF ON THE BANK SIDE SO THAT YOUR SUPPORT CAN COME INTO PLAY.

I'VE BEEN, I CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH SOMEBODY AND MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS, UM, AND GET THEM THROUGH PERMITTING, WHICH I HEARD IS KIND OF TAKING UP TO, COULD TAKE UP.

UM, SO I, I REALIZED THAT THIS, THIS IS A TOUCHY POINT, UM, AND IF IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO ADD, YOU KNOW, UM, LANGUAGE TO VACATE OR BAN ALSBORO, IS IT POSSIBLE TO MOVE ESCROW BACK TO FEBRUARY 28TH? THAT'S THAT CLOSE? I DON'T WANT TO USE THAT.

BELIEVE ME.

I W I WANT TO, I WANT THIS TO BE SMOOTH, AS SMOOTH AS I CAN MAKE IT.

UM, AND, UM, BUT IT'S JUST A WORRY THAT WE'RE NOT SEEING SOMETHING.

WE DID SEE SOMETHING YESTERDAY, UM, AND IT'S, IT'S AFFORDABLE.

UM, AND IT DOES NEED GI, UM, IS SMALLER THAN WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WANTED, BUT IT MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK.

AND SO, UM, WE MAY JUST PUT AN OFFER ON THAT AND PUT A BUNCH OF CONTINGENCIES ON IT.

UM, SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A USE THAT WILL, UM, BE COMPATIBLE FOR US BECAUSE WE ARE PLANNING TO ACTUALLY LET GO OF ALL OF OUR RESOURCE CENTER SERVICES AND THE DROP IN HOMELESS SERVICES IN THE SMOOTH.

SO WE WOULD BE MOVING TO AN OFFICE SITUATION, AND IT'S MAINLY CASE MANAGERS, UH, THAT, THAT GO TO PEOPLE'S APARTMENTS THAT ARE IN OUR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROGRAM AND MEET

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WITH THEM.

AND THEN OUR, OUR, WE HAVE ONE HOMELESS BROWN RIGHT NOW THAT IS TOTALLY OUTREACH.

SO THERE'S A MOBILE OUTREACH COMPONENT.

AND THEN THERE A HOUSING NAVIGATOR AND THEY OUTSOURCED OR GO OUT WITH THE OUTREACH WORKER.

SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE HOMELESS PEOPLE COMING INTO THIS NEW SITE.

THAT'S NOT THE PLAN.

WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO DEAL WITH THAT.

WE JUST HAVE TIME TO SORT OF HUNKER DOWN AND CHANGE OUR FOCUS.

AND MAYBE SOME DAY YOU'LL WANT A DAY CENTER AND WE LOVE TO DO IT AND THE RIGHT WAY, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE HAVE NOW IS TOO SMALL ANYWAY.

SO, UM, THAT THAT'S THE BOARD'S HOPE IS THAT WE CAN GET BACK INTO THOSE SERVICES AT SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE.

BUT RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO SHORE UP AND JUST FOCUS ON, UM, GETTING OURSELVES.

SO WITH JUST THAT, THAT OFFICE SITUATION, JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, UM, YOU HAD MENTIONED POSSIBLY RENTING OR IS THAT A SERIOUS CONSIDERATION FOR YOU OR I HOPE, I HOPE IT'S NOT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO MOVE TWICE, BUT I'M JUST SAYING TO PRESERVE THE INSANITY AND GET OUT BY DECEMBER 31ST, AS YOU WANT, THEN, THEN I WOULDN'T HAVE MUCH CHOICE.

UM, UH, SO, BUT I REALLY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

I'M, I'M REALLY MOTIVATED TO MAKE A PURCHASE, HAVE, HAVE, HAVE YOUR INCENTIVE WORK IN THAT DIRECTION.

IT'S A, IT'S A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE SOME CONTROL OVER FUTURE AND, UM, AND, AND BE, UM, BE IN A DIFFERENT PLACE THAT THE VERIZON TOWER RENT THAT THAT BRAND MENTIONED GOES RIGHT NOW, THE WHOLE THING GOES TO ARTS STG AND BILL 18,000 FOR STG AND EVAL.

I, YOU KNOW, WE'RE EXPECTING TO REALLY CHANGE THAT, BUT BY SHIP, THIS KIND OF SHIFT, UH, WHERE WE'RE GOING TO SOMETHING UNDER 4,000 FEET AND WE JUST FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE IT WORK AND POSSIBLY MORGAN TO WEIGH ON THIS.

BUT BEFORE WE GO THERE, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO ANY OF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OF THE CHRIST HOUSE TEAM? YEAH, I DO.

UH, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE, YOU'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE PURCHASE MARKET.

WHAT ABOUT THE LEASING MARKET? YOU SAID THERE'S A 1% THEY CAN SEE.

CAN WE ASSUME THAT THE LEASING MARKET IS JUST AS TIGHT AS THE PURCHASING MARKET? CORRECT.

THE LEASING MARKET IS JUST AS TIGHT AND I HAVE BEEN TOLD RENT UP TO 11 ON A 6,000 SQUARE FEET BY A PRIVATE PARTY.

SO, BUT I PROBABLY WOULDN'T EVEN DO THAT.

CAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN AFFORD IT.

WE HAVEN'T TALKED NUMBERS YET.

SO I MAY JUST MOVE FOR INSTANCE, A BOOKKEEPER TO A ONE PERSON OFFICE AND, AND LET EVERYBODY COME TO HER OR TO GET CHECKS, TO PAY LANDLORDS AND SO FORTH AND THEN TRY AND WORK AS MUCH AS WE CAN FROM HOME TO GET THROUGH THAT PIECE.

UM, SO I DON'T THINK I CAN MAKE, I DON'T THINK I CAN AFFORD TO ACTUALLY MOVE OUR WHOLE OPERATION TO A WAYS, UM, BECAUSE ACTUALLY A PURCHASE, IF I PURCHASE IT, IF I CAN PURCHASE WHAT I SAW YESTERDAY, UM, THEN I, I MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE MORTGAGE FREE AND THAT'S MY ABSOLUTE GOAL.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT ROBBIE MENTIONED IS I DON'T WANT TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY.

UM, I, CAUSE I DON'T HAVE IT.

I NEVER PLANNED FOR IT.

LUCKILY WE'VE NEVER HAD TO PAY RENT.

UM, SO THERE'S NO BUDGET FOR IT.

SO JUST TO PIGGYBACK WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, STEVE, YEAH.

THAT THE VACANCY RATES ARE STILL LOW, ANYTHING OVER, I MEAN, SHOOT, I WOULD SAY RIGHT NOW OFFICE WISE, I MEAN WE HAVE A 1700 FOOT ONE HERE IN SANTEE THE OFFICE.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF OFFICE BUILDINGS IN EAST COUNTY IN PARTICULAR.

AND YOU KNOW, TO THE POINT OF THAT MAGNOLIA BUILDING, YOU GUYS ARE GONNA HAVE NO PROBLEM SELLING THAT FOR PEAK PRICING RIGHT NOW WE HAVEN'T SEEN PRICES COME DOWN YET, UH, FROM ALL THIS.

AND PART OF IT IS, IS JUST THERE'S LACK OF STUFF THAT COMES UP FOR SALE, UH, IN EAST COUNTY.

I MEAN I SAW THE 17,000 FOOT BUILDING MAGNOLIA TO A GUY THREE YEARS AGO FOR 2.2 MILLION, 17,000 FEET AND 1.5, THREE ACRES.

AND WE JUST SOLD IT FOR 4.4 IN THREE YEARS.

SO THE MARKET HAS JUST BEEN OUT OF CONTROL BECAUSE THERE'S STILL A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE SIDELINES WITH MONEY.

AND SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANY ISSUES SELLING THAT AND THEN SHIFTING OVER TO THE OFFICE MARKET.

RIGHT? SO IF YOU SAID, HEY, SHOW ME FOUR TO 5,000 FEET, YOU KNOW, I COULD SHOW YOU STEP UP AND THE GILLESPIE TILT UPS, BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY NOT A FIT FOR MARY'S OPERATION.

UM, AND THEN THE OTHER STUFF THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE OUT THERE, IT'S OLDER PRODUCT IT'S UPSTAIRS.

IT DOESN'T HAVE ADA ACCESSIBILITY TO IT.

SO YOU START TO RUN UP INTO CHALLENGES LIKE THAT, BUT THERE'S JUST NOT A LOT OF, YOU KNOW,

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OFFICE SPACE AVAILABLE ON EAST COUNTY AND PER CAPITA, YOU KNOW, FROM, YOU KNOW, SANTI, LAKESIDE, OKLAHOMA, AND ALL THE, ALL THE DIFFERENT AREAS AND EVEN LEMON GROVE, UM, THERE'S SMALLER STUFF AVAILABLE, UM, UNDER 1500 FEET.

BUT, UM, EVEN THOSE ARE, YOU KNOW, WOULD LIKE THE ONE HERE IN MY BUILDING.

IT'S ALL UPSTAIRS.

NO, NO ELEVATOR SERVE NOTHING.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE YOUR CHALLENGES WITH IT, IF IT IS AVAILABLE.

THANK YOU ANYBODY ELSE BEFORE I MOVE ON ANGELA, DO THE SPEAKERS ON THE SIDE.

YES, SIR.

WE HAVE 15 COMMON CARDS SUBMITTED.

UM, AND THE FIRST ONE IS FROM STEPHANIE HARPER.

SHE WRITES, I THINK IT IS JUST SHAMEFUL, WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO THE CRISIS HOUSE AND WHAT IS WORSE.

AND THIS REPORT DIDN'T EVEN STATE WHY AFTER ALL THESE YEARS, THE CITY IS NOT RENEWING THEIR LEASE.

THE CITY KNOWS THAT THE CRISIS HAS DEPENDS ON THE REVENUE FROM THE CELL TOWER AND THE $1 A YEAR RENT.

THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO DEPEND ON THEIR SERVICES.

IN FACT, THAT IS WHERE THE HOUSING MANAGER WE WERE PAYING CAME FROM SO MANY SERVICES THAT YOU DON'T RECEIVE FROM ECE.

TLC ARE GOING TO BE LOST.

I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS MAY SEEM TO SOME, THE CITY IS BEING FAIR, BUT TO THOSE OF US WHO KNOW HOW VITAL THE CRISIS HOUSE IS TO THE LOW INCOME COMMUNITY, WE THINK THIS IS A ROTTEN MOVE ON THE CITY'S PART.

I BELIEVE IT'S PRETTY COWARDLY NOT TO JUST TELL THE TRUTH REGARDING THE CITIES, ALL OF A SUDDEN CHANGE OF HEART REGARDING WHY NOT TO RENEW THE LEASE.

IT IS BECAUSE THE NEW HOTEL THAT JUST WENT UP, THEY DON'T WANT THE HOTEL GUESTS TO SEE OUR CITIES PLIGHT.

SO I'M WONDERING IF THIS WAS A MOVE THAT WAS PREPLANNED BECAUSE I REALLY DON'T THINK THIS WAS JUST THE CITY DOING SOMETHING NICE FOR THE HOTEL.

IF YOU ARE ASHAMED OF OUR CITY CITIZENS, THEN YOU TRULY NEED TO EVALUATE THE JOB YOU ARE DOING.

I BELIEVE THE CITY SHOULD HELP FIND A NEW LOCATION IN ALCOHOL GRANTHAM FUNDING EVERY YEAR, JUST ESSAY DUE TO THE DC TLC AND HELP THEM OUT WITH STARTUP MONEY FOR THE NEW LOCATION, PERHAPS FROM ONE OF THE PULL FUNDS OR PRIVATE PROJECT FUNDS WE HAVE ON HAND, DON'T PUT ANOTHER BANDAID ON THIS PROBLEM DO RIGHT AND FIX IT.

THE NEXT COMMENT IS FROM BOB COLLINS AND IT SAYS, AS I LOOK AROUND THE CITY OF EL CAHONE, I AM A BASE AT THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

A NEW POLICE STATION RE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE DOWNTOWN CORE AREA AND REDEVELOPMENT OF THE OLD POLICE STATION SITE AND AN UPGRADED MAGNOLIA THEATER.

VERY IMPRESSIVE.

THE CITY IS ASKING THE CRISIS HOUSE TO RELOCATE AS A PART OF THIS RE REDEVELOPMENT EFFORT.

THE CITY MUST ASK ITSELF HOW IT CAN HELP AND DO NO HARM TO THE CRISIS HOUSE.

SO IT CAN CONTINUE TO PROVIDE ESSENTIAL SOCIAL SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY IN THE FUTURE, AS IT HAS FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS, THE CITY MUST NOT LEAVE THE CRISIS HOUSE IN THE WAKE OF ITS REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT PROVIDES SUFFICIENT FUNDS TO PURCHASE A COMPARABLE SITE RELOCATION ASSISTANCE TO DO SO ON A REASONABLE TIMELINE, DO THE RIGHT THING, CITY COUNCIL FOR THE CODICES HOUSE, TREAT THEM FAIRLY, HELP THEM OUT AND DON'T LEAVE THEM BEHIND.

NEXT.

COMMON IS FROM SCOTT DRY.

HER CRISIS HOUSES NEEDED NOW MORE THAN EVER.

THEIR REQUEST SHORT EXTENSION OF THE DEADLINE WILL IN THE LONG RUN, SAVE MONEY FOR THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA AND HELP IT MEET BOTH ITS STATUTORY AND MORAL OBLIGATIONS.

IT WILL LIVE WITH POTENTIAL LIABILITIES AND LITIGATION, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, ENSURE THAT THIS RARE AND VALUABLE ASSISTANCE REMAINS.

NOW, IT'S NOT THE TIME FOR THE CITY TO SHED THESE SORTS OF SERVICES AND ABILITIES TO PROVIDE THEM NEXT.

COMMON IS FROM CHRISTA PENTAGON AS A RESIDENT OF ALCOHOL AND MEMBER OF THE HOMELESS TASK FORCE.

I AM ASKING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL EXTEND THE OFFER OF 700,000 UNTIL THE END OF THE LEASE IN JULY, 2021.

I DO NOT SEE A REASON WHY THESE FINANCIAL CONSTRAINTS HAVE INPUT ON THE CRISIS HOUSE TO TREAT AN AGENCY WHO HAS DONE SO MUCH GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

LIKE THIS IS EMBARRASSING AND HAS NO MERIT SELLING THE PROPERTY THAT CRISIS HOUSE CURRENTLY RESIDE IN IS NOT GOING TO MAKE THE HOMELESS GO AWAY.

OKLAHOMA HAS THE SECOND HIGHEST HOMELESS RATE NEXT TO DOWNTOWN SAN DIEGO.

IF YOU COMPARE THE SERVICES OFFERED BETWEEN THE TWO, AGAIN, AN EMBARRASSMENT AT THE LACK OF RESOURCES, OKLAHOMA PROVIDES MAKING CRISIS HOUSE FEND FOR THEMSELVES AS MAKING IT HARDER TO PROVIDE NEEDED SERVICES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

MAKE ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE, EXTEND THEIR TIMEFRAME AND DO THE RIGHT THING.

NEXT COMMENT IS ACTUALLY FOR MR. HILL.

UM, I READ IT, IT SAYS, MY NAME IS JOSH HILL AND I LIVE, LIVED IN EAST COUNTY FOR OVER 30 YEARS.

CURRENTLY.

I RECITE IT AND I'LL GO HOME AND WORK FOR CALIFORNIA BANK AND TRUST IN OKLAHOMA

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UPGRADES AVENUE.

AS VICE-PRESIDENT COMMERCIAL RELATIONSHIP MANAGER, I AM AN ACTING BOARD MEMBER AND THRESHER FOR CRISIS HOUSE.

I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE INCENTIVE PAYMENT OF 700,000 TO OUR FOUNDATION FOR THE EARLY DEPARTURE OF OUR LEASED PROPERTY.

WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE INCENTIVE.

HOWEVER, THE TIMEFRAME IN WHICH CRISIS HOUSE HAS BEEN ASKED TO CLOSE ON A PROPERTY IS UNREASONABLE IN THIS ENVIRONMENT AT THEIR PRICE POINT, PROPERTIES AT OUR BUDGET ARE EXTREMELY LIMITED AND HAS BEEN HER QUITE SOME TIME FOR SUITABLE PROPERTY.

ONLY ABOUT A MONTH AGO, CRISIS HOUSE ATTEMPTED TO PURCHASE A PROPERTY, BUT WAS OUTBID BY ANOTHER WHO PAID WELL OVER ASKING PRICE CRISIS HOUSE WAS EAGER TO FIND A SUITABLE PROPERTY AND IS WILLING TO PROVIDE THE CITY WITH A REQUEST TO VACATE EARLY.

HOWEVER, ADDITIONAL TIME IS NECESSARY TO FIND A SENSIBLE OPTION, THEREFORE SHOULD CRISIS HOUSE VACATE THEIR SITE EARLY.

IT IS REQUESTED THAT THEIR ABILITY TO ACCESS THE 700,000 GOLD THROUGH THE END OF 2021 WITH CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS, IT IS UNREASONABLE.

PARDON? IT IS REASONABLE TO ASSUME SUITABLE PROPERTIES WILL BE LISTED THAT MEET OUR NEEDS AS A FALLOUT OF COVID ON REAL ESTATE.

MORE CLEARLY REALIZE IN THE COMING MONTHS IT WAS COMMUNICATED THAT IT WASN'T THE CITY'S INTENTION TO HARM CRISIS HOUSE.

SO REMAIN WITH THE SPIRIT OF THAT COMMENT, PROVIDE THEM WITH A REASONABLE TIMEFRAME TO FIND A SUITABLE PROPERTY THROUGH 2021, THE CITY WILL GET THEIR PROPERTY BACK EARLY AS REQUESTED AND CRISIS HOUSE CAN DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE ON THE RIGHT PROPERTY SO THEY CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE AND SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY.

NEXT COMMENT IS FROM CORINNE CAMPBELL AND IT READS, IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT HOMELESS AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE VICTIMS HAVE A PLACE TO GO FOR SUPPORT IN THE COMMUNITY CRISIS.

HOW SUPPORTS NOT JUST OKLAHOMA, BUT ALL OF EAST COUNTY AND BEYOND SOROPTIMIST INTERNATIONAL HAS A LONGTERM AGREEMENT TO SUPPORT OUR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PROGRAM TO PROVIDE WOMEN AND THEIR CHILDREN FLEEING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, WHERE A SECURE LONGTERM FACILITY, THIS OUTSTANDING ORGANIZATION DESERVES TO BE TREATED WITH THE UTMOST RESPECT IN THESE NEGOTIATIONS.

THE SERVICE THEY PROVIDE TO THE LOCAL COMMUNITY IS OUTSTANDING.

AND SO MANY PEOPLE AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS DEPEND ON THEM.

IT IS REALLY OUTRAGEOUS THAT SO LITTLE CONSIDERATION HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THEIR SITUATION BY THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.

PLEASE CONSIDER THE REQUEST FOR CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS TO EXTEND THEIR DEADLINE FOR CLOSING TO FEBRUARY 28, 2021, IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY AND ALL WHO DEPEND ON THEM TO LIVE A SOMEWHAT PRODUCTIVE LIFE FOR GOODNESS SAKES LIVES ARE AT STAKE HERE.

NEXT COMMENT.

WE'RE ABOUT HALFWAY THERE, JACK ME CLOSE, AND IT SAYS HONORABLE MAYOR, WELLS AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS JACK MIKLOS.

I'M A CONSULTANT TO CRISIS HOUSE AND A MEMBER OF EAST COUNTY'S HOMELESS TASK FORCE.

I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THE COUNCIL HONOR THE INTENT AND SPIRIT OF THE EARLY LEASE TERMINATION AGREEMENT WITH ITS 700,000 INCENTIVE PAYMENT.

IF CRISIS HOUSE EITHER IS AN ESCROW ON DECEMBER 31, 2020, OR HAS VACATED THE PROPERTY ON DECEMBER 31, 2020, IT SEEMS CRISIS HOUSE WOULD HAVE MET IT'S OBLIGATION AND EFFECTIVELY ENDED ITS LEASE EARLY.

AND THOSE BENEFITING THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA AND EXPENDED EXPENDED THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY.

THANK YOU.

NEXT COMMENT.

UM, FROM MS. KATHY SMITH, IT SAYS MY NAME IS KATHY SMITH AND I HAVE BEEN ARRESTED IN, IN EAST COUNTY FOR OVER 30 YEARS AND A RESIDENT OF OKLAHOMA FOR 17 YEARS.

I AM ACTING BOARD PRECEDENT FOR CRISIS HOUSE.

I THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO SHARE MY CONCERNS WITH THE CITY INCENTIVE PAYMENT TO CRISIS HOUSE FOR EARLY VACATING, THE CURRENT BUILDING AND THESE UNCERTAIN TIMES THAT UNFORESEEN COVERT 19 OUTBREAK LIMITED INVENTORY OF UNOCCUPIED OFFICE SPACE FOR PURCHASE THE UNSTABLE ECONOMY TO NAME A FEW.

IT SEEMS VERY UNREASONABLE TO EXPECT THAT MARY AND THE RELOCATION TEAM TO FIND PURCHASE MOVED BY DECEMBER 31ST AND CLOSE ESCROW BY JANUARY 31ST.

BUT I HAVE SEEN FIRSTHAND HOW MOTIVATED THE STAFF AT CRISIS HOUSE ARE TO MOVE.

THEY HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT PROPERTIES, SENDING OUT INQUIRIES TO THE COMMUNITY AND VOLUNTEERS ASKING FOR LEADS AND PACKING BOXES TO BE PREPARED TO MOVE QUICKLY.

I AM ASKING FOR YOU TO ALLOW CRISIS HOUSE THE 700,000 INCENTIVE PAYMENT.

IF WE'VE A CAKE BY DECEMBER 31ST, 2020, EVEN WITHOUT FINDING A BUILDING TO PURCHASE BY THEN NOT TO HAVE THE FUNDS AVAILABLE TO US WHEN THE BEST PROPERTY COMES OFF THE MARKET, I BELIEVE IT IS UNFAIR AND UNREASONABLE AND NOT IN THE SPIRIT OF THE AGREEMENT TO WITHHOLD THESE MONIES.

EVEN IF WE CAN'T PURCHASE A BUILDING BY THE END OF THE YEAR AND BE AN ESCROW BY JANUARY 31ST, IF WE VACATE

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BY DECEMBER 31ST, WE SHOULD GET THE INCENTIVE AGREEMENT OF 700,000.

THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL CONDITION OF THE LEAVING THE PROPERTY EARLY.

PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING FOR CRISIS HOUSE AND THE MANY PEOPLE WE SERVE NEXT COMMENT FROM MR. HUMBERT COVER ERA, BEST REGARDS TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS DURING THESE DIFFICULT TIMES DURING COVID THE STRAIN OF OUR SYSTEMS HAS BEEN TESTED.

THE CRISIS HOUSE IS ONE OF THE MOST NEEDED ORGANIZATIONS, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND HOMELESSNESS HAVE NOT GONE AWAY WHO WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE COUNCIL AND STAFF CONSIDER MAKING IT POSSIBLE FOR THE CRISIS HOUSE TO REMAIN AT LEAST UNTIL DECEMBER 30TH.

THIS SEEMS LIKE A REASONABLE TIME TO FIND A NEW LOCATION AND GET THE NEEDED TENANT IMPROVEMENTS, PERMITTED AND CONSTRUCTED.

WE SUPPORT EXTENDING THE TIME PERIOD WITH, WITH FULL BENEFITS, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE DURING THIS TIME OF MOST NEED.

WE FIND OUR SUPPORT 100% BEHIND THE CRISIS HOUSE BECAUSE OF COVID.

THIS IS WHEN WE NEED THE MOST, THE CRISIS HOUSE HAS SERVED THE VALLEY OF OPPORTUNITY FOR OVER A QUARTER CENTURY, PLEASE TRY YOUR HARDEST TO MAKE THEIR TRANSITION BENEFICIAL AND HONORABLE AS THEIR SERVICE HAS BEEN TO CITIZENS AND COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, HUMBARD AND ANGELA KIBERA.

NEXT COMMENT IS FROM MS. MARY CASE, AND IT READS, I AM MARY KAY SUCCESS, CREATIVE DIRECTOR OF CRISIS HOUSE AND HOMEOWNER IN OKLAHOMA FOR 17 YEARS.

FOR 50 YEARS, CRISIS HOUSE HAS BEEN A GREAT PARTNER TO THE CITY PROVIDING ESSENTIAL SERVICES TO THE HOMELESS AND WOMEN AND MEN WHO ARE FLEEING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

WE END HOMELESSNESS FOR OVER 500 PEOPLE WITH 330 CHILDREN.

EACH YEAR, WE SERVE A TOTAL OF 4,500 PEOPLE AND PROVIDE OVER 18,000 SERVICES TO THEM EACH YEAR IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COMMUNITY, WE PROVIDE HOLIDAY GIFTS AND MEALS TO 137 FAMILY, 364 KIDS TOTALING 549 PEOPLE.

EACH YEAR, WE COORDINATE THE ANNUAL POINT IN TIME, COUNT FOR THE HOMELESS AND EL CAHONE AND HOST PARK PROJECT, HOMELESS CONNECT EAST COUNTY, WHERE OVER 50 ORGANIZATIONS PROVIDE HEALTH, MENTAL HEALTH AND ADDICTION SERVICES TO OVER 200 HOMELESS PEOPLE TO GET TO HELP GET CONNECTED TO THE RESOURCES THEY NEED TO MOVE TOWARD ENDING THEIR HOMELESSNESS.

WE ARE ASKING THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL TO LET THE CRISIS HOUSE REALIZE THE FULL 700,000 INCENTIVE PAYMENT TO MAKE A PURCHASE AT A FUTURE TIME BY VACATING THE PROPERTY ON OR BEFORE DECEMBER 31, 2020 TO MAKE A PURCHASE.

WHEN ONE BECOMES AVAILABLE.

IF WE AREN'T ABLE TO PURCHASE BY DECEMBER 31 AND CLOSE ESCROW BY JANUARY 31, 2021, IF POSSIBLE, WE WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND THE EXPERT DATE TO FEBRUARY 28, TO PROVIDE MORE TIME, TO FIND A PROPERTY TO SAFELY CLOSE ESCROW BY JANUARY 31, 2021, WE WOULD MEET TO PURCHASE BY NOVEMBER ONE, CONSIDERING THE HOLIDAYS AND UNFORESEEN ISSUES THAT COULD ARISE IN ESCROW.

IF TENANT IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED, WHICH ALL OF THE PROPERTIES ON THE MARKET NOW REQUIRE FOR US TO CHANGE TO AN OFFICE ONLY USE AND ELIMINATE THE RESOURCE CENTER DROP IN SERVICES FOR THE HOMELESS NEED TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN TOMORROW.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A DIALOGUE TODAY.

AND WE HAVE, UM, LET'S SEE.

FOUR, FIVE MORE COMMENTS, SIR.

THE NEXT ONE IS FROM KATRINA WILBURN.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS KATRINA WILBURN AND I AM A BOARD MEMBER FOR CRISIS HOUSE AND MEMBER OF THE RELOCATION TEAM.

DURING THESE PAST FEW MONTHS, I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT THE RELOCATION TEAM HAS BEEN ACTIVELY WORKING TOWARDS FINDING A SUITABLE LOCATION FOR CRISIS HOUSE WHILE KEEPING BUDGET, LOCATION, AND POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY IN MIND WITH THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC AND LOW PROPERTY INVENTORY.

FINDING A LOCATION HAS PROVEN TO BE NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE DURING THESE TRYING TIMES IN ORDER TO KEEP PROVIDING SERVICES THAT THE COMMUNITY SO DESPERATELY NEEDS.

I AM ASKING FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO ALLOW FOR CRISIS HOUSE FOR MORE TIME TO FIND ITS NEXT HOME, TO MAKE THE FULL 700,000 AVAILABLE TO CRISIS HOUSE.

AS LONG AS WE VACATE THE MAGNOLIA BUILDING BY DECEMBER 31ST AND NOT TIE IT TO THE PURCHASE OF A BUILDING IMMEDIATELY WOULD BE IMMENSELY HELPFUL.

THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR MORE TIME FOR THE RELOCATION TEAM TO FIND A BUILDING THAT IS SUITABLE FOR CRISIS HOUSE FITS WITHIN OUR BUDGET AND ALLOWS FOR THE CITY TO HAVE THE BUILDING SLASH SPACE TO USE FOR YOUR DISCRETION.

THE RELOCATION THING HAS BEEN VIGILANT ABOUT INQUIRING ABOUT OFF MARKET PROPERTIES, VISITING PROPERTIES AND CONTACTING BROKERS ABOUT POTENTIAL LOCATIONS.

ANY ADDITIONAL TIME TO LOCATE THE IDEAL PROPERTY FOR CRISIS HOUSE WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

PLEASE HONOR THE AGREEMENT AND LA CRISIS HOUSE TO HAVE A 700,000 AND THE PROPERTY IS VACATED BY DECEMBER 31ST AND ALLOW FOR THE FUNDS

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TO BE USED FOR A BUILDING PURCHASE IN THE NEXT YEAR.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

NEXT COMMENT IS FROM JUDY HORNING.

I HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF THE CRISIS HOUSE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR NINE YEARS.

I ALSO REPRESENT SURREPTITIOUS INTERNATIONAL OF POWAY AND NORTH SAN DIEGO.

OUR TWO CLUBS HAVE BEEN PROVIDING FULLY FURNISHED APARTMENTS TO FAMILIES REFERRED THROUGH CHI'S CRISIS HOUSE, TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PROGRAMS FOR VICTIM OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

FOR 22 YEARS.

THESE WOMEN AND CHILDREN ARE CASE MANAGED BY CRISIS HOUSE.

WE PROVIDE THE APARTMENTS AND MENTORS TO HELP THE WOMEN BECOME SAFE, PRODUCTIVE, AND INDEPENDENT.

THIS PROGRAM IS ESSENTIALLY BENEFICIAL TO THESE FAMILIES BECAUSE THEY TAKE EVERYTHING WITH THEM.

WHEN THEY GRADUATE TO START THE NEW INDEPENDENT LIVES ON THEIR OWN CRISIS HOUSE HAS BEEN A JUUL OF A SAN DIEGO COUNTY FOR 50 YEARS.

IT WOULD BE CRIMINAL TO FORCE IT'S DEMISED DURING A PANDEMIC IMPORT REALITY REALTY OPPORTUNITIES.

OUR MEMBERS ARE URGING THE OKLAHOMA CITY COUNCIL TO ALLOW THE EXTRA TIME TO LOCATE AN APPROPRIATE NEW LOCATION WHILE RETAINING THE 700,000 EARLY LEASE INCENTIVE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

UM, THE NEXT COMMENT IS FROM BARBARA NEWNESS.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS BARBARA NUNEZ.

I AM AN ACTIVE BOARD MEMBER AND FORMER PROGRAM PARTICIPANT FOR CRISIS HOUSE.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE MY REQUEST TODAY, TIME IS RUNNING THIN FOR OUR ORGANIZATION.

WE HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY TO FIND A NEW PROPERTY IN THE CURRENT MARKET.

I AM REQUESTING THAT YOU PLEASE CONSIDER OUR ORIGINAL AGREEMENT OF GRANTING CRISIS.

HOW'S THE 700,000 AND UPON MOVING OUT BY DECEMBER 31ST, 2020, THIS WOULD GIVE US THE PROPER TIME TO STILL PURCHASE A NEW FACILITY.

THE COMMUNITY IS COUNTING ON US AND I HAVE TWO MORE COMMENTS, SIR IS ONE.

THE NEXT ONE IS FROM ANNA MARIE PICONE SNYDER AS A CONSULTING PROJECT DIRECTOR OF THE EAST COUNTY HOMELESS TASK FORCE.

I OFFER GRATITUDE TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE STAFF OF THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA FOR CONTINUING TO DIALOGUE AND WITH CRISIS HOUSE.

AS THEY PLAN TO SUCCESSFULLY NAVIGATE THE MOVE OF THEIR INVALUABLE SERVICES FOR ALL OUR VULNERABLE COMMUNITY MEMBERS FROM ONE LOCATION TO ANOTHER, THE BEST SCENARIO FOR CRISIS HOUSE IS THE BEST SCENARIO FOR THEIR CLIENTS AS COMMUNITY.

WE MUST ALL WORK TOGETHER TO ASSIST WITH THIS TRANSITION AND ENSURE THE LONGTERM SUCCESS OF THEIR MORE THAN 50 YEAR MISSION.

ACCORDING TO OUR MEANS SO THAT THERE IS LITTLE INTERRUPTION TO SERVICES AS POSSIBLE.

WE SUPPORT THE COLLABORATION OF THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA WITH CRISIS HOUSE TO CREATE THE BEST OUTCOME FOR OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO DEPEND UPON THEIR SERVICES.

THANK YOU FOR THIS EXTRA EFFORT.

AND THE LAST COMMENT IS FROM CAROL LEWIS.

I WOULD LIKE TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR CRISIS HOUSE.

THIS ORGANIZATION HAS BEEN SERVING EAST COUNTY FOR SEVERAL YEARS AFTER PROVIDING THE ONLY SERVICES FOR OUR UNSHELTERED NEIGHBORS.

THIS INCLUDES POSTAL SERVICES, EMERGENCY MEALS, HOUSING SUPPORT, AND SHELTER.

FOR THOSE EXPERIENCING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA HAS RELIED UPON THEM TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO PLEASE DELAY THE MANDATORY RESTRICTIONS PLACED UPON THEM TO LOCATE AND PURCHASE A BUILDING.

WE ALL KNOW THAT DURING OUR PRESENT CIRCUMSTANCES WITH COVID-19, THERE ARE A SHORTAGE OF VACANT BUILDINGS AND PROPERTIES AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE THAT DRIVES THE PRICE UP AND PRIME PROPERTIES MAY BE OUT OF REACH.

AS MORE BUSINESSES ARE STRUGGLING TO MAKE PAYMENTS DUE TO MANDATORY CLOSURES.

INVENTORY WILL INCREASE AND PRICES SHOULD DROP CRISIS HOUSE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO THE TIME NECESSARY TO EXAMINE THE MARKET.

LOOK FOR BUILDINGS THAT MEET THEIR NEEDS AND PURCHASE SOMETHING THAT WILL ALLOW THEM TO CONDUCT SERVICES FOR ANOTHER 50 YEARS.

AND THAT IS THE LAST COMMENT, SIR.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALRIGHT.

UH, MORGAN ARNO, UH, GRAHAM.

YES, SIR.

I AM GOING TO NEED SOME DIRECTION ON THE SEMI.

YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTOOD THE CONCEPT OF, UH, PROVIDING SEMINAR A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

I THOUGHT IT WAS EXTREMELY GENEROUS, BUT THERE WAS, THERE WAS A GIVE AND TAKE THERE, RIGHT? I MEAN, WE, WE GET SOMETHING OUT OF THAT AND THAT, THAT IS, WE GET CONTROL OF THE BUILDING.

GIVE 2020.

YEAH.

NOW WE'RE TALKING THAT IF THEY WERE TO PURCHASE IT, IT WOULD TAKE US POSSIBLY UP TO THE, BASICALLY THE TIME OF THE LEASE WAS ENDING ANYWAY.

AND IT AM I UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY? THAT, I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE ASSERTING.

OKAY.

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AND THEN, SO TO ME IT SOUNDS LIKE THE THING THAT MAKES SENSE OF IF THEY WANT TO CONTINUE TO GET THE SUMMER THOUSAND DOLLARS, WE GET WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO LEASE AND TO BE OUT OF THE BUILDING BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

IS, ARE YOU IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT STATEMENT CHALLENGE IS THAT IF THEY WERE TO RELOCATE UNDER A LEASE SCENARIO, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ELIGIBLY USE THE $700,000 TO HELP WITH THAT, WITH THAT COMPONENT.

AND WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR.

I THINK I'LL TRY TO ARTICULATE IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY IF THEY WERE TO LEAVE WHAT'S THAT YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THAT, UH, THE LEASING PUR PURCHASING MAKES THE 700,000 IN CERTAINLY SO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT MONIES COME IN TWO DIFFERENT, UM, CATEGORIES, PROGRAMMATIC MONEY.

AND WE USE A LOT OF PROGRAMMATIC MONEY TO HELP ORGANIZATIONS LIKE HOMESTART CRISIS HOUSE HAS BEEN USED.

WE'VE USED PROGRAMMATIC MONEY FOR THEM.

WE USE PROGRAMMATIC MONEY FOR ECE TLC, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THAT'S ONE POT OF MONEY.

AND THEN THERE'S CAPITAL MONEY.

THAT'S USED TO BUY STUFF TO BUILD THINGS, TO BUILD A BUILDING OR TO BUILD A PLAYGROUND.

UM, WE PURCHASE THAT MONEY WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT CAPITAL FUNDS.

SO THAT POT OF MONEY, THAT MONEY IS, IS COLORED WITH THAT, WITH THAT, UM, CAPITAL TAINT.

SO WE CAN'T USE THAT MONEY FOR PROGRAMMATIC MONEY.

SO ELISE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE CAN USE PROGRAM MONEY FOR HELPING SOMEONE PAY RENT, BUT WE CAN'T USE CAPITAL MONEY TO HELP FOR PROGRAM ACTIVITIES.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S A HARD, THAT'S A HARD REQUIREMENT, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT REQUIREMENT.

WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER THAT.

AND OUR MR. MORGAN OR MR. FOLEY, YOU'RE GONNA PROBABLY SAY SOMETHING SIMILAR.

YEAH.

I WAS GOING TO JUST ADD THAT THE GIST OF THE COMMENTS THAT I HEARD WAS MOVING OUT OR, UH, ALLOWING THEM TO VACATE BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR AND THEN HOLDING THE A HUNDRED, THE $700,000, BUT ALLOWING THEM MORE TIME TO ACQUIRE A PROPERTY RATHER THAN LETTING IT EXPIRE BY A DATE, SIR.

SO I THINK RATHER THAN WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED, WHICH IS TO HAVE AN ESCROW, UH, AND, AND MOVED OUT, UH, HAVE AN ESCROW THAT CLOSES, THEY DON'T HAVE TO MOVE OUT UNTIL FEBRUARY 1ST BASED ON THE PROPOSAL THEY'RE ASKING, CAN WE MOVE OUT? YOU HOLD ONTO THE 700,000 AND THEN WE HAVE UNTIL THE END OF NEXT YEAR TO ACTUALLY CLOSE ESCROW.

AND IF WE DON'T, THE MONEY GOES AWAY, THE CITY CAN USE IT FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

AND THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE.

IT'S UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL, AS LONG AS IT'S USED FOR CAPITAL PURPOSES AS MR. GRANT I, MR. MITCHELL.

NOW YOU GOT ME DOING A GRAM, UH, MR. MITCHELL MENTIONED, UM, YOU CAN, YOU CAN HOLD ON TO IT.

I ASSUME IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHETHER WE'RE WANTING TO DO THAT AND BANK THAT MONEY AND DEDICATED FOR THEIR USE IN THE, IN THE FUTURE UP THROUGH WHATEVER DATE YOU DETERMINED IS APPROPRIATE GARY.

WELL, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT OUR GOAL IS TO GET THEM TO MOVE OUT EARLIER, UH, THAN WHAT THE LEASE REQUIRES.

SO IF THEY WERE TO MOVE OUT BY DECEMBER 31ST AND WE PUT THE MONEY INTO AN ESCROW ACCOUNT, UH, WE STILL GET A BENEFIT.

SO IT'S NOT A GIFT OF PUBLIC FUNDS BY GETTING HIM THE MOVE OUT SIX OR SEVEN MONTHS EARLIER.

AND THEN NOW MORGAN HAS JUST TOLD US THAT, UH, THE ESCROW CAN BE DELAYED AND THAT WOULD MEET THE CONDITIONS OF, UH, THE HUD REQUIREMENTS.

SO WHY DO WE CARE WHETHER OR NOT THEY BOUGHT, THEY PURCHASE SOMETHING IN JANUARY OR NEXT, YOU KNOW, THE SEPTEMBER AFTER THAT.

SO HOW LONG FOR THAT ESCROWS, HOW LONG COULD THAT MONEY SIT IN THE ESCROW ACCOUNT AND STILL, UM, THE CDBG MONEY? WELL, IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE AN ESCROW ACCOUNT.

IT COULD JUST BE A DESIGNATED FUND WITHIN THAT.

THE CITY CONTROLS.

I THINK MY CONCERN IS THIS IMPERPETUITY.

UM, ARE WE GOING TO BE HERE A YEAR FROM NOW? I THINK THE COUNCIL, IF THIS IS THE DIRECTION YOU WANT TO GO, THINK YOU NEED TO HAVE A HARD DEADLINE.

OTHERWISE WE'LL BE REVISITING THIS EVERY YEAR.

SO, AND FROM WHAT I HEARD, MAYBE NEXT YEAR, ISN'T, ISN'T SUFFICIENT ENOUGH OF TIME TO, TO FIND AND PURCHASE THE PROPERTY.

SO I THINK YOU'D BE RIGHT BACK WHERE YOU'RE AT TODAY, A YEAR FROM NOW, OR THOUGHTS FROM THE COUNCIL? YEAH.

I'VE GOT A QUESTION

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FOR THE BROKERS.

IS ROBBIE STILL AROUND? WE CAN, WE CAN BRING IT BACK UP.

MIGHT BE GOOD TO HAVE ROBBIE MARION.

HE GOES, JOSH.

OKAY.

THERE'S ROBBIE.

OKAY.

ROBBIE, YOU HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU.

WE HEAR QUITE A BIT THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A PROPERTY THAT MEETS THEIR NEEDS, RIGHT? THEY'RE TALKING 4,000 SQUARE FEET, $700,000 FOR A 4,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.

THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD BARGAIN.

ISN'T IT? IF YOU CAN FIND IT, I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BUY IT 4,000 FOOT BUILDING FOR 700,000 BUCKS.

THEY'RE GOING TO, THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND MORE IS EXACTLY.

SO MY POINT IS, MY POINT IS LET'S LIKE TAKE A STEP BACK AND SAY, ARE WE EVEN CHASING A REALISTIC DREAM OR WILL A CRISIS HOUSE COULD SEEK ADDITIONAL FUNDS ELSEWHERE? UH, IT COULD REDUCE IT SQUARE FOOTAGE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING BETWEEN, UH, YOU KNOW, 2,500 FEET UP TO 6,000 FEET JUST TO KIND OF SPREAD THE WIDEST NET.

AND WE DID IDENTIFY A SMALL BUILDING.

YESTERDAY IS LISTED AT 689,000.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF WORK.

UM, WHAT IS ONE THING THAT MARY WAS TALKING ABOUT? AND IT'S GOT A TENANT AND HALF THE SPACE IT'S IN DEFAULT, SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE EASY, BUT YOU KNOW, UM, WE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT SHE WAS SAYING.

IF WE ENDED UP MAKING AN OFFER ON IT, IT'S GOING TO BE CONTINGENT UPON GETTING THAT TENANT OUT OF THERE AND MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEIR OFFICE USE, WHICH THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE.

IT'LL BE SUFFICIENT IN THAT PROPERTY.

SO I THINK AFTER TALKING ABOUT JOSH, WE'VE LOOKED AT LIKE, IF THEY GET THE 700,000 FROM THE CITY, THEN WE CAN POTENTIALLY GO UP TO A MILLION DOLLARS, BORROW THE DIFFERENCE, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, KIND OF FIGURE OUT WE CAN GET SOMETHING FROM THAT ANGLE, FROM MY RELATIONSHIPS, WITH BEING OUT HERE FOR SO LONG, I'M GOING TO OWNERS DIRECTLY SAYING HERE, HERE'S WHAT I HAVE.

YOU HAVE A BUILDING THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE TENANT WANTS OUT OR THEY'RE ON THE FENCE.

AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY WORKED SOMETHING OUT DIRECTLY WITH THEM, YOU KNOW THEM TO GET THEM INTO THE BUILDING SOONER THAN LATER.

I MEAN, OUR GOAL FROM DAY ONE AT LIKE, FROM WHEN I MET MARY WAS FIND A BUILDING GET OUT OF THE PROPERTY.

SO, I MEAN, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT WE DON'T, THEY'RE THEIR GOAL IS TO GET OUT.

THEY DON'T WANT TO STAY AS LONG AS POSSIBLE.

THEY WANT TO MOVE TO THE NEXT LOCATION BECAUSE THERE'S JUST SO MUCH UNKNOWN, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT, THEY GOT, AT LEAST IT ENDS ANYWAYS.

I'M SORRY.

PLEASE GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD THOUGH.

JUST QUICK QUESTION.

ROBBIE, ARE YOU, ARE YOU TALKING THEN ABOUT LOOKING FOR A SITUATION WHERE THE OWNER OF THE BUILDING THAT YOU'RE PURCHASING COULD CARRY SOME OF THE BABIES MAYBE? YEAH.

I MEAN, WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL ANGLES THERE'S PROPERTIES THAT ARE SITTING OUT THERE THAT AREN'T EVEN, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE ON THE MARKET AND MAYBE AS A TENANTS ARE PAYING THEIR RENT RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW? AND SO YOU JUST, IT'S A MATTER OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE SPECIFIC OWNERS SAYING, HEY, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO WITH THIS? YOU WANT TO SELL IT? AND HERE'S WHO YOU CAN SELL IT TO.

OR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO EXHAUST EVERY POSSIBLE ANGLE RIGHT NOW.

YOU FEEL LIKE YOU COULD OBTAIN A LOAN FOR 300,000, IF YOU NEEDED TO BRING IT UP TO A MILLION MARY, I MEAN, JOSH, THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, RIGHT? YEAH.

I THINK GETTING A LOAN FOR AN ADDITIONAL 300,000 FOR A TOTAL PURCHASE PRICE OF A MILLION IS VERY DOABLE.

SEE STEVE, AND THEN GARY, YOU KNOW, THIS 700,000 THING.

YEAH.

IT'S WEIRD ESSENTIALLY OUR CUSTODIANS OF THE PUBLIC'S MONEY.

SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO, UH, THE TIGHT, OR WE'RE TRYING TO SAY AT THE PUBLIC HELD US ACCOUNTABLE FOR OUR USE OF $700,000 OF THE PUBLIC'S MONEY.

THEY WOULD SAY HERE ARE YOU USING MARGARET OUR MONEY IN A WISE WAY? AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE.

WHAT'S THE BEST USE OF THE PUBLIC'S MONEY.

THIS ISN'T REALLY OUR MONEY OR OUR DECISION IT'S, WE'RE TRYING TO GET, YOU KNOW, THE BEST, UH, THE BEST WIN FOR EVERYBODY.

I HEARD SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT WERE, UM, QUITE FREQUENT ABOUT, OH, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE ALL THESE SERVICES.

AND WE STILL HAVE HUNDREDS OF THOUSAND DOLLARS OF SUPPORT SERVICES IN OKLAHOMA WHERE ORGANIZATIONS, UM, CRISIS HOUSE UNDOUBTEDLY IS AN IMPORTANT PARTNER.

UH, WE FUNDED THE HOUSING NAVIGATOR THREE YEARS AGO AND THEY WERE SO GOOD AT IT.

THEY PARLAYED THAT INTO A $300,000 SHEEP GRANT.

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SO A CRISIS HOUSE DOES ADD VALUE AS WELL AS THESE OTHER ORGANIZATIONS.

I GUESS I'M KIND OF THINKING ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THE PUBLIC SAID, UH, DID YOU USE OUR $700,000 THE BEST WAY? THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M MULLING OVER, RIGHT? GARY, KEVIN, UH, STEVE, TO ADDRESS YOUR CONCERNS.

I THINK THAT CRISIS HOUSE DOES ADD VALUE NO MATTER WHERE THEY LAND IN EAST COUNTY, THEY ADD VALUE TO THE HOME.

UH, SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE $700,000.

UH, WE GET A BENEFIT FROM IT BECAUSE IT HELPS KEEP THEM IN BUSINESS AND WE GET A BENEFIT FROM IT BECAUSE IT VACATES THE BUILDING SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

SO I SEE THERE'S BENEFIT THERE.

MY QUESTION TO ROBBIE IS, UH, WHAT'S A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THEM TO CLOSE ESCROW.

UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT, HOW FAR FORWARD WOULD WE NEED TO GO TO, TO MAKE IT REASONABLE THAT THEY'D BE ABLE TO FIND SOMETHING.

SO THIS DOESN'T GO ON FOR FIVE YEARS, RIGHT? IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

SO I MEAN, OUR INTENT IS TO FIND SOMETHING RIGHT AWAY.

I THINK WHEN LIKE JOSH AND I, AND WHEN WE FIRST, WHEN I FIRST STARTED MEET WITH MARRIOTTS, IT'S JUST THE START TO FINISH TIMEFRAME.

ONCE YOU FIND SOMETHING, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, 90 DAYS TO GET YOUR FINANCING IN PLACE IN THE EVENT, WE NEED SOME FINANCING, RIGHT? AND THEN 30 DAYS TO CLOSE AFTER THAT.

SO IT'S 180 DAYS TOTAL TIMEFRAME, AND WE CAN SHORTEN THAT STUFF UP.

THAT'S OUR FULL INTENT TO DO THAT.

IF WE CAN GO AT LEAST PATH OF RESISTANCE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.

I THINK FROM THE REAL ESTATE STANDPOINT, WHAT THE PROBLEM WE HAVE, SOMEBODY COMES TO THE CASH WHERE OUT, UH, AND THEN YOU GOT, YOU GOTTA GOTTA GET AN OWNER TO WORK WITH US.

LIKE, HEY, WE NEED TIME.

WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP IN OUR CONVERSATION WAS, YOU KNOW, FOR MARY WAS OKAY, ONCE WE IDENTIFY A PROPERTY, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PUT A DOWN PAYMENT ON IT? AND THAT, THAT WAS LIKE MY HEAD, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T REALLY GO INTO ESCROW ON A BUILDING WITHOUT A, WITHOUT A DOWN PAYMENT, RIGHT? YOU NEED, YOU KNOW, 30 TO 50 GRAND IN SOME CASES.

UM, SO WHERE'S THAT MONEY GONNA COME FROM? SO WE'RE, WE'RE FIGURING OUT HOW WE CAN GET EVERYTHING STREAMLINED, WHERE WE CAN BE COMPETITIVE IN THE MARKET WITH THE OTHER BUYERS IN THE MARKET.

AND, UM, THAT'S WHERE IT GETS TO BE A CHALLENGE.

BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, I MEAN, 180 DAYS, MAX, UM, I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE A SUFFICIENT BECAUSE THAT WOULD GIVE US 90 DAYS FOR FINANCING AND THEN MAYBE A LITTLE EXTRA TIME IF WE NEED IT AND THEN TRY TO CLOSE IT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE FROM THERE.

IF, UH, WE HAD THAT $700,000 SET ASIDE AND YOU HAD TO CLOSE, LET'S SAY BY AUGUST 1ST OF 2021 AND THE CITY, AND THEN YOU PUT IN A CONTINGENCY ON THAT DOWN PAYMENT THAT IF IT DOESN'T CLOSE ESCROW, YOU GET YOUR MONEY BACK.

OF COURSE YOU GET THEIR MONEY BACK.

CAUSE I COULD.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND THEN, UH, YOU COULD YOU THINK HE COULD SWING THAT DEAL A GOOD CHANCE OF IT? I KNOW THAT I'M PRETTY SURE THE ISSUE WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS I, I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE STUFF COMING UP.

IT'S JUST BECAUSE WHAT EVERYTHING, I MEAN IN A WEIRD WAY, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A BAD TIME FOR THEM TO MOVE, BUT WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH COVID, IT'S GOING TO FREE UP MORE PROPERTIES.

IT'S JUST GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO IT'S JUST, WE HAVEN'T SEEN THAT EFFECT YET.

UM, AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE REAL ESTATE MARKET'S BEEN SO EXTREMELY TIGHT FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS, UM, THAT EVERYTHING GETS TO GET SOLD IT'S OFF MARKET ANYWAYS.

UM, AND SO NOW THAT WE'VE STARTED TO CHANNEL ALL THE AVENUES OF GETTING IN FRONT OF EVERYONE, SOMETHING'S GONNA COME UP.

BUT, UM, I MEAN THAT AMOUNT OF TIME WOULD BE GREAT.

YOU KNOW, I'M THINKING IS THAT AS HERE, THE SEVERAL THINGS IN THIS PROPOSAL, ONE IS THAT THE CRISIS HOUSE VACATES BY DECEMBER 31ST, WE SAID WE HAD THIS $700,000 SET ASIDE.

UH, THEY HAD TO CLOSE ESCROW BY AUGUST 1ST OF 2021.

AND, UH, UH, WE WILL, UH, GIVE THEM THE MONEY FOR THE DOWN PAYMENT, WHICH IN THE CONTINUANCY ON THE S AND THE ESCROW, THEY CAN GET BACK.

SO SOMETHING GOES HAYWIRE.

THE CITY GETS THEIR MONEY BACK.

AND THAT WAY WE ACHIEVE SEVERAL THINGS.

ONE IS THAT THE BENEFIT TO DO THE CITY, IF CRISIS HOUSE LEAVES BY DECEMBER 31ST, WE CAN DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN THAT, ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY AND CRISIS HOUSE, UM, I'M CONVINCED HAS, IS A BENEFIT TO OUR COMMUNITY.

AGAIN, NO MATTER WHERE THEY LAND IN EAST COUNTY.

AND,

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UH, IT WOULD BE GOING THAT MONEY.

IT WOULD BE LEGAL CAUSE IT WOULD FOLLOW THE HUD GUIDELINES BECAUSE IT'S BEING USED FOR A BUILDING, WHICH IS A CAPITAL EXPENDITURE.

SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT KIND OF SOULS, MOST OF THE PROBLEMS, BUT I'D BE INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT MY FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, YEAH, I, I THINK THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD COMPROMISE.

I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, GIVEN GARY'S PROPOSAL, THIS IS PROBABLY FOR GRAHAM AND MAYBE MORGAN.

UM, I WANT TO LOOP BACK TO STEVE'S ORIGINAL CONCERN IS IN THE EVENT, THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY DOESN'T YIELD THAT FULL 700,000 W W AND THEN WE'D BE ON THE HOOK OUT OF A GENERAL FUND, UH, TO, TO COMPENSATE THE DIFFERENCE.

IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DRAFT TO, TO ENSURE THAT, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT PULLING MONEY OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? LIKE QUESTION CONCERN? YEAH.

YEAH.

I MEAN, WE INITIALLY, AS I WAS THINKING ABOUT HOW TO DRAFT THE INITIAL AGREEMENT, I THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT, IS THERE A WAY A CONTINGENCY IN THE EVENT THAT, BUT REMEMBER, UM, W WE WILL BE DEPOSITING MONEY INTO AN ESCROW ACCOUNT PRIOR TO US SELLING THE PROPERTY.

SO WE'LL BE USING GENERAL FUND MONIES INITIALLY, AND THEN WE'LL BE REIMBURSING IT WITH THE PROCEEDS OF THE SALE.

SO GOT IT.

UM, FROM A TIMING PERSPECTIVE, I DON'T THINK THAT WORKS IN SECOND.

IT'S HARD FOR THEM TO MAKE A, AN OFFER ON A PROPERTY, WHICH IS CONTINGENT ON OUR CONTINGENT.

SO, UM, WE THOUGHT THE $700,000 THRESHOLD IS AS A SAFE ONE BASED ON THE APPRAISAL REVIEWS WE RECEIVED AND ALSO COUNSEL FROM OUR BROKER.

OKAY.

THAT'S THAT QUELLS SOME CONCERNS THAT TAXPAYERS AREN'T GOING TO BE ON THE HOOK TO, TO PONY UP THE DOUGH FOR A POTENTIAL DEAL.

THANK YOU, GREG.

SO AT WORST, THEN THE GENERAL FUND WOULD LOAN THE MONEY TO THEM BEING VERT AND BE REIMBURSED BY THE SALE OF THE CURRENT CRISIS HOUSE PROPERTY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

BUT IF A SPANISH SHORTAGE COULD THAT SHORTAGE COME FROM CDBG FUNDS, UM, YOU COULD PROBABLY USE IT FROM SOME PROGRAM CDBG FUNDS, BUT AS YOU RECALL, EVERY YEAR, YOU MAX THOSE OUT.

SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THOSE FROM ONE OF THE ENTITIES YOU CURRENTLY FUND.

WHAT'S THE APPRAISAL ON THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW.

I KNOW IT'S ONE OF THE GOING TO BE SCRAPED, BUT 1.2, UM, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, 1.2 MILLION RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

AND WHAT'S THE LAND IMPROVEMENT RATIO.

DID THEY NOTICE? I DON'T KNOW THAT REALLY THE VALUE IS IN THE LAND IN A LOT OF THE VALUE VALUES IN THE LAND, IN, IN PART THE CELL TOWER.

OH YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

CAUSE THAT'S AN ONGOING, UH, INCOME AND I'M, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE LEASE YOU HAVE WITH THAT CELL TOWER, BUT MOST CELL TOWERS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE NOT, THEY OWN THE RIGHTS TO THE ROUGH SPACE.

SO WOULD YOU BE EVEN BE ABLE TO TEAR THE BUILDING DOWN WITHOUT BUYING THAT LEASE OUT OR THERE'S THEY HAVE CONTROL OF A BUILDING TO A POINT ONCE THEY, UH, PUT A CELL TOWER ON IT, THERE'S ANOTHER ONE, SIX, 18 MAIN STREET, SAME, SAME SCENARIO.

UM, YOU ALMOST CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THE BUILDING UNTIL YOU GET THE CELL TOWER TO APPROVE IT.

SO, BUT YEAH, THAT IS A, THAT IS A DEFINITE BENEFIT TO THAT BUILDING.

IT SEEMS TO ME, WE HAVE ENOUGH CUSHION BETWEEN THE APPRAISED VALUE AND, YOU KNOW, THE MONEY, UH, $700,000.

CORRECT.

AND JUST FOR COUNSEL'S BENEFIT, THAT CELL TOWER IS ACTUALLY NOT A FIT TO THE BUILDING.

OKAY.

AND IT HAS ITS OWN SHED AND WE'RE ACTUALLY THERE, THEIR AGREEMENT EXPIRES ABOUT THE SAME TIME AS CRISIS WE'RE CURRENTLY IN NEGOTIATION WITH THEM.

UM, SO DEPENDING ON HOW, WHAT WE DO DURING THE NEGOTIATIONS, OUR LAND VALUE COULD EVEN GO UP MORE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO IF YOUR PRESENT VALUE THAT INCOME STREAM OF WHAT IS POSSIBLY GOING TO BE FROM THE CELL TOWER, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD ADD VALUE.

IT'S GOING TO PROBABLY ADD SOME VALUE THERE.

YEAH.

IT SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY ACADEMIC CONCERN AS I, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE A GOOD AMOUNT OF RISK BY, UM, HAVING $700,000 ATTACHED TO THEM.

I THINK WE GET OUR MONEY BACK.

SO THE QUESTION REALLY IS, DO YOU, DO YOU AS A COUNCIL, UM, WANT TO SET THAT MONEY ASIDE AND SET A DATE TO THAT TO GIVE THIS TIME

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TO WORK OUT? BECAUSE I DON'T SEE IT WORKING OUT THE WAY THAT WE'VE GOT IT STRUCTURED RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T SEE IT HAPPENING.

I THINK IT'S UNREALISTIC AND I'M, I'M GLAD WE HAD A FRANK CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.

UM, I LIKED GARY'S IDEA AND I THINK, UM, I COULD SUPPORT THAT.

SO HERE'S THE QUESTION FOR MARY, IF SHE'S STILL ON THE LINE, I'LL WAIT AND SEE IF SHE'S AVAILABLE.

SO IF WE SET A DATE OF JULY 31ST OR AUGUST 1ST, AND THAT IS OUR BEST AND FINAL OFFER AND, UH, THINGS DON'T CLOSE IT'S ABOUT THAT DATE.

THAT YOU'RE OKAY WITH THAT.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET A, WE JUST NEED TWO MORE MONTHS.

WE JUST NEED TWO MORE MONTHS ARE OKAY WITH THE BEST AND FINAL OF JULY 31ST OR AUGUST 1ST.

YES, I'M OKAY.

I, I WISH I DIDN'T HAVE TO MOVE OUT OF THE BUILDING TO DO THAT, BUT I HAVE A LITTLE MORE TIME, BUT I GET IT.

I CAN WORK WITH THAT.

SO IN A NORMAL, GO AHEAD, MARY, I WANT TO DO THIS.

I WANT TO GET THIS DONE SOONER.

I, THIS IS I'M GOING TO HAVE A HEART ATTACK FOR A WEEKEND IF I CAN'T BUY A BUILDING AND GET THIS DONE.

SO IN NORMAL COMMERCIAL ENVIRONMENTS, I WOULD THINK, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A TENANT WHO'S, LISA'S ENDING JULY 31ST, WHAT'S THE VALUE OF OFFERING MONEY, UH, AT THE POINT THAT THEY'RE GONNA MOVE OUT.

YOU, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY THAT MONEY ANYWAY, BECAUSE THE, THE OUT BY JULY 31ST, BUT THIS IS NOT THAT NORMAL COMMERCIAL SITUATION.

THIS IS, THIS IS A SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCY, WHICH ADDS A LOT OF VALUE, UH, TO EAST COUNTY.

AND IN THAT SENSE, WE PROBABLY WOULD STILL GIVE HIM $700,000 ON THE DATE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ANYWAY, BECAUSE OF THE VALUE OF WHAT THEY DO, BECAUSE THIS COUNCIL HAS FOR YEARS SUPPORTED, UH, THE WORK OF CRISIS HOUSE AND SUPPORTED HOMELESS SERVICES.

SO FOR THAT REASON, I WOULD AGREE WITH MR. KENDRICK AND MR. ROSS.

WELL, I SUPPORT THE MOTION AS WELL.

ONE SUGGESTION, AUGUST 1ST IS A SUNDAY, SO JUST MOVE IT TO AUGUST 2ND.

OKAY.

OH, THAT'S WHERE YOU WENT TO A GOOD LAW SCHOOL ON MY FINGERS.

BERKELEY COMES THROUGH AGAIN.

THAT'S RIGHT.

OKAY.

THEN, UH, MORGAN, IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR ME TO MAKE A MOTION NOW? OKAY.

THEN I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT THEY HAD TO BE OUT BY DECEMBER 31ST.

AND THAT WE, UH, SET ASIDE THE $700,000 AND, UH, WE CAN, UH, GIVE THEM MONEY FOR THE DOWN PAYMENT WITH CONTINGENCIES THAT SAYS WE CAN GET THE MONEY BACK IF THE ESCROW DOESN'T CLOSE.

AND, UH, ESCROW MUST CLOSE BY AUGUST 2ND OF WHAT YEAR OF 2021.

DOES THAT COVER ALL OUR BASES? MORGAN? YEAH.

WE WILL NEED TO OBVIOUSLY MODIFY THE AGREEMENT SOMEWHAT MORE THAN JUST THE DATES TO DEAL WITH THE DEPOSIT ISSUE.

IS IT YOUR INTENT THAT THE DEPOSIT WOULD BE PART OF THE SAME CDBG FUNDS EVENTUALLY? YEAH, NO, IT'S JUST PART OF THE CBDG MONEY FUNDS, BUT WE MAY HAVE TO USE GENERAL FUND MONEY AND THEN THE CBDG MONEY PAYS THEM BACK.

YEAH.

I THINK FOR THE COUNCIL, UM, WE CAN WORK OUT SOME LANGUAGE THAT GIVES US SOME FLEXIBILITY.

I MEAN, WE DO HAVE SOME CAPITAL CDBG MONEY THAT WE HAVE ALLOCATED FOR WELLS PARK.

SO IF WE HAVEN'T SPENT THAT MONEY, WE COULD USE THOSE FUNDS.

WHAT I RECOMMEND IS WHERE WE'LL JUST, UM, BE LIABLE TO DEPOSIT MONEY INTO THEIR ESCROW ACCOUNT WHEN THEY OPEN UP ESCROW.

SO WE'LL HA WE WON'T BE SITTING.

WE WON'T TAKE THAT.

WE WON'T TAKE $700,000 AND PARK IT SOMEPLACE.

WE'LL JUST BE LIABLE FOR THAT.

AND SO ONCE THEY OPEN UP ESCROW, WE WILL DEPOSIT THE 700,000 WHICHEVER WAY WE CAN GET IT.

WE MAY ACTUALLY HAVE SOLD THE PROPERTY BY THEN.

UM, AND, AND GIVE US SOME FLEXIBILITY THAT WAY, IF THE COUNCIL GREAT.

I'LL SECOND.

THE MOTION TO INCLUDE WHAT GRAHAM SAID.

THANK YOU.

MAYOR WELLS, YOUR VOTE? YES.

DEPUTY MAYOR OR ORTIZ.

YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER GOGEL.

YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER KENDRICK.

YES.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRECEDENTS.

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GOOD JOB.

GREAT.

THANKS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THE LAST ADMINISTRATIVE WRAP REPORT ITEM SIX

[6. Designation of Voting Delegate and Alternate to League of California Cities Annual Conference (October 2020) RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council designates Mayor Bill Wells as the Voting Delegate for the City of El Cajon and City Manager Graham Mitchell as the Alternate, for the League of California Cities Annual Conference.]

IS FOR THE DECK DESIGNATION OF A VOTING DELEGATE AND ALTERNATE FOR THE LEAGUE OF CITIES EARLY OF CALIFORNIA CITIES AND STAFF.

YOU TELL US ABOUT THIS PLACE.

CERTAINLY MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL EACH YEAR, THE CITY SENDS REPRESENTATIVES TO THE ANNUAL LINCOLN, CALIFORNIA CDS CONFERENCE.

IT WAS SCHEDULED TO BE IN LONG BEACH THIS YEAR, BUT BECAUSE OF, UM, THE PANDEMIC, IT HAS BEEN CANCELED AND IT'LL BE DONE VIRTUALLY.

SO, UH, THERE'LL BE ACTUALLY A NOMINAL COST TO US TO PARTICIPATE.

SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE DESIGNATE AS USUAL THE MAYOR TO REPRESENT THE CITY AT THE VOTING PORTION OF THAT ANNUAL CONFERENCE.

AND IF HE'S UNAVAILABLE, UH, WE RECOMMEND THAT YOU WOULD, UM, UH, APPOINT ME AS THE ALTERNATE VOTING DELEGATE FOR THE CONFERENCE.

SO WITH THAT, I WOULD JUST NEED COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR THOSE TWO APPOINTMENTS.

ANY OBJECTIONS I'LL MOVE THAT.

WE ACCEPT THAT RECOMMENDATION.

SECOND MAYOR WELTER VOTE.

YES.

DEPUTY MAYOR OR TASTE.

YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER GLOBAL.

YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER KENDRICK.

YES.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRECEDENTS.

THANK YOU.

WE ARE NOW AT ACTIVITIES REPORTS, COUNCIL MEMBER, KENDRICK AS REPORTED COUNCIL MEMBER GOAL AS REPORTED DEPUTY MAYOR, PHIL ORTIZ AS REPORTED AND MINOR AS REPORTED AS WORLD.

THERE ARE NEW JOINT COUNCIL REPORTS.

[13. Animal Shelter Donations for June 2020 RECOMMENDATION: In accordance with City Council Policy B-2, staff informs the City Council about receiving the following donations for the El Cajon Animal Shelter for the month of June: Terry L. Casey $100.00 Arlene Marie Young $256.00 Total $356.00]

ITEM 13 IS REPORT ON DONATIONS TO THE ANIMAL SHELTER IN THE MONTH OF JUNE.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE HARRY CASEY, UM, DONATED A HUNDRED DOLLARS AND A MARIE YOUNG $3,256.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THOSE DONATIONS.

THAT'S VERY KIND.

WE HAVE NO FIRST OR SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

WE HAVE NO CLOSE SECOND SESSION ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

AND THIS PREVIOUS TO A GERMAN, THE ADJOURN RARER JOINT MEETING OF THE ELLICOTT CITY COUNCIL AND ALCOHOL HOUSING AUTHORITY HELD THIS 28TH DAY OF JULY, 2020 IS ADJOURN TILL TUESDAY, AUGUST 11TH, 2020 AT 3:00 PM.

THANKS, SIR.

THANKS VERY MUCH FROM ALL OF YOU.

WE'LL SEE YOU GUYS IN AUGUST.