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LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.[ CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Bill Wells]
TO THE ALCON CITY COUNCIL MEETING.WE CONTINUED THE WHOLE REMOTE MEETINGS OR THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER CONTINUED TO BE IN EFFECT DUE TO COVIN 19 PANDEMIC.
I'D LIKE TO REMIND OUR CITIZENS THEY CAN SUBMIT QUESTIONS FOR ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA AS WE DID IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS.
PUBLIC COMMENTS MAY ALSO BE SUBMITTED THIS TIME AND THEY'LL BE READ AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME DURING THOSE MEETING COMMENTS WILL BE ACCEPTED UP TO THE CONCLUSION OF THE VOTE OR OF THE ITEM COMMENTS.
SUB BE, I'M SORRY, COMMENTS MAY BE SUBMITTED TO THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA'S WEBSITE UNDER AGENDAS AND MINUTES.
GO TO VIDEO STREAMING AND YOU WILL SEE A BUTTON TO SUBMIT YOUR COMMENTS.
THE MEDIA HAS NOT CALLED ORDER AND I'D LIKE TO ASK FOR OUR CITY CLERK TO CALL THE ROLE.
FRANK, AM I JUST NOT HEARING ANYTHING? I CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING EITHER.
ANGELA, DO YOU WANT TO TEST OUT YOUR MIC AGAIN?
I'LL, I'LL CHECK WITH MR MAYOR.
IN THE MEANTIME, I CAN CALL THE ROLL.
YEAH, LET'S PLEASE DO, UH, MAYOR BILL WELLS HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER GARY KENDRICK HERE.
COUNCIL MEMBER STEVE GOLDBERG.
BILL, UH, BOMBED WITH COLIN HERE.
ALRIGHT, WOULD YOU PLEASE ALL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE WHEREVER YOU ARE AND REMAIN STANDING FOR A BRIEF MOMENT OF SILENCE AFTER THE PLEDGE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO IT ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY.
[ POSTINGS: The City Clerk posted Orders of Adjournment of the April 28, 2020, Meeting and the Agenda of the May 12, 2020, Meeting in accordance to State Law and Council/Authority/Successor Agency to the Redevelopment Agency Policy.]
POSTED ORDERS OF A GERMAN OF THE APRIL 28TH, 2020 MEETING AND THE AGENDA FOR THE MAY 12TH, 2020 MEETING IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY POLICY.I'D LIKE TO, WANTS TO GET, REMIND PEOPLE TO SUBMIT THEIR COMMENTS EARLY TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE RECEIVED ON TIME.
SO IF YOU HA, IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE, IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO GO AHEAD AND PUT THEM IN NOW.
AND THERE'LL BE READ AT THE TIME THAT YOUR ITEM IS THAT COMES UP.
[ PRESENTATIONS: Presentation: First Look at the City's New Mobile App Recognition: Certificate of Appreciation for Caltrans Proclamation: National Public Works Week]
ON TODAY'S AGENDA.THE FIRST PRESENTATION I'LL CALL ON DIRECTOR OF INFORMATION AND TECHNOLOGY.
UM, I WANTED TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE SOME GREAT NEWS.
UH, AS MANY OF YOU ARE AWARE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON A CITY OF ALCOHOL MOBILE APP.
UM, IT'S BEEN, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN IN THE PROCESS FOR A LITTLE WHILE NOW AND I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT IT IS LIVE ON BOTH THE APPLE APP STORE AND THE ANDROID GOOGLE PLAY.
UM, AND I WANTED TO TAKE A QUICK MINUTE TO SHOW YOU WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
UH, FRANK, CAN YOU STOP SCREEN SHARING FOR A SECOND AND I'LL PUT MY NOTES.
THIS IS THE VIEW FRUIT THROUGH THE, UM, APPLE IOS, BUT IT LOOKS ALMOST IDENTICAL IN, UH, THE, UH, ANDROID FORM.
WE WANTED TO, UH, FIRST OF ALL MOVE UP, UH, INTO PRODUCTION THIS APP AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE BASED ON WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH WITH THE PANDEMIC.
SO WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS FOCUS QUITE A BIT ON CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT.
SO AS PART OF THAT, WE'VE INCLUDED, UH, THE AMAZING RESOURCES, UH, ON OUR WEBPAGE FOR
UM, WE HAVE CURRENT NEWS THAT INCLUDES NOT ONLY, UH, CLASSIC NEWS AND PRESS RELEASES, BUT ALSO OUR TWITTER POSTS,
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UM, FROM BOTH THE CITY, UH, POLICE, INSTAGRAM FROM RECREATION, ALL THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT PEOPLE GET THEIR NEWS.WE ALSO ARE HIGHLIGHTING, UH, IMPORTANT RESOURCES TO SUPPORT OUR RESIDENTS, UH, AND SPECIAL PROGRAMS SUCH AS VIRTUAL PARKS AND REC.
UM, WE'RE ALSO DOING QUITE A BIT, UH, TO ENABLE NEW BUSINESS AND WE'RE ACTUALLY REALLY PROUD OF THE BUSINESS DIRECTORY THAT WE'VE CREATED.
UH, THIS WILL BE SELF MANAGED BY THE BUSINESSES WITHIN THE CITY.
UH, THERE'S ACTUALLY A LINK IN, UH, ENABLING BUSINESSES THAT SHOWS YOU HOW YOU CAN CLAIM YOUR BUSINESS AND SIGN UP.
UH, BUT WHAT'S AMAZING ABOUT THIS IS, UH, YOU CAN GO IN AND FIND OUT RIGHT NOW WHAT STORES ARE OPEN, WHAT THEIR HOURS ARE, UH, EVEN PULL UP FOR RESTAURANTS, THEIR MENUS.
UM, AND ALL THIS INFORMATION WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE CITIZENS THEMSELVES.
ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE IS YOU GUYS KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON, UM, THROUGH YOUR GOVERNMENT, NOT ONLY CITY COUNCIL, BUT THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS.
AND UH, FROM HERE YOU CAN WATCH COUNCIL MEETINGS, YOU CAN, UH, STREAM THINGS, YOU CAN SUBMIT COMMENTS.
AND WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED A NEWLY REFINED, UH, REQUEST AND ISSUES THAT ARE, ALLOWS YOU TO, UH, PRESENT BOTH ANONYMOUSLY OR AS A SAVED USER.
UH, YOU CAN GO IN THERE, SAY YOU WANT TO SUBMIT SOMETHING FOR VEGETATION OVERGROWTH.
YOU CAN GO IN, IT KNOWS WHERE YOU'RE AT.
UM, YOU CAN TAKE PICTURES OR YOU CAN CHOOSE A PICTURE FROM YOUR CAMERA ROLL, UH, PUT IN YOUR NOTES AND IT'S THAT EASY.
YOU CAN SUBMIT BOTH ANONYMOUS OR, UH, AS, UH, A USER, UM, SO THAT WE CAN, UH, GET INFORMATION BACK AND FORTH TO YOU.
SO ALL OF THIS IS ROLLING OUT, UM, THROUGH THE MONTH OF MAY, UH, WITH UH, FULL IMPLEMENTATION EXPECTED, UH, RIGHT AROUND JUNE 1ST.
SO WE ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO GO TO THE APP STORES, UH, AND DOWNLOAD IT AND HAPPY APPING.
THE SECOND ITEM UNDER PRESENTATION IS A CERTIFIED CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION FOR CALTRANS.
YOU HAVE SEVERAL REPRESENTATIVES FROM CALTRANS WITH US VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE.
I'D LIKE TO INVITE YOU TO INTRODUCE YOURSELVES AND SAY A FEW WORDS AFTER I PRESENT THE FOLLOWING.
AND THIS IS A CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION FOR CALTRANS AND IT READS, WHEREAS APRIL 20TH AND 24 IS DESIGNATED AS 2020 NATIONAL WORK.
AND WHEREAS THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION, MAINTENANCE, AND OPERATION OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM, AS WELL AS THE INTERSTATE HIGHWAY SYSTEM WITHIN THE STATE'S BOUNDARIES, CALTRANS DISTRICT 11 MAINTAINS OVER 4,200 LANE MILES IN THE REGION, INCLUDING THOSE THAT TRAVERSE THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.
AND WE'RE ASKED CALTRANS WORKERS PROVIDE VALUE TO THEIR COMMUNITIES BY MAINTAINING THESE ROADWAYS.
AND WHEREAS IN ADDITION TO ALL THE PLANS AND ROUTINE MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITIES, CALTRANS CREWS RESPOND TO 247 CUSTOMER SERVICE REQUESTS WITHIN THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA THREE EACH CALENDAR YEAR OF 2019.
NOW, THEREFORE I BILL WELLS MARROW, THE CITY OF EL CAHONE TOGETHER WITH THE CITY COUNCIL DO HERE BY RECOGNIZE CALTRANS FOR THEIR DEDICATION TO OUR COMMUNITY AND COMMEND THEM FOR THEIR ONGOING EFFORTS AND KEEPING THE ROADWAYS IN AND AROUND ALCOHOL SAFE FOR ALL TO UTILIZE.
AND SO WE HAVE THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM CAL HERE.
SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE HAVING A TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY.
SARAH, DID YOU WANT US TO CONTINUE OR MR MAYOR, THIS IS, THIS IS GRAHAM CITY MANAGER.
WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE INVITED ON THIS, UH, CONFERENCE IF WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE WHO IT IS.
SO, UH, MR
HE'S BEEN PROMOTED TO, UH, TO BE A PANELIST.
HE CAN GO AHEAD AND SAY SOMETHING.
HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY SOMETHING NOW, SIR.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? HI, HOW ARE YOU? WELCOME.
I'M
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YOU AS WELL AS COUNCIL MEMBER GOBBLE AND THE REST OF THE COUNCIL FOR THIS RECOGNITION.AS YOU MENTIONED, UH, OUR MAINTENANCE PEOPLE DO A LOT OF THINGS AND, AND UH, AND I'M REALLY PROUD OF THEM AND, AND UH, REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL TO RECOGNIZE THEM.
UH, IF I CAN MENTION A COUPLE OF NAMES, OUR DIVISION CHIEF OF MAINTENANCE, TOMBALL, QUINN OR EAST REGION MANAGER ELARA AND SUPERINTENDENTS MIGHT KINDLE AND THEN YOU PARIS OUT.
MIKE AND DANNY OUT OF THE MAINTENANCE OUT OF THE MAINTENANCE STATION MEANS AND T ARE THE ONES THAT TAKE CARE OF ALL THE STATE HIGHWAYS IN THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.
AND IT'S NOT AN EASY TASK FOR, FOR ANY, ANY OF THE STATE HIGHWAYS.
UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF CHALLENGES THAT THEY FACE.
ONE OF THE RE RECENT CHALLENGES THAT THEY FACE IS, IS INCREASED SPEEDS.
UM, AND AS IT WAS MENTIONED IN THE RESOLUTION, WE RECENTLY CELEBRATED THE HIGHWAY WORKER MEMORIAL EVENT WHERE WE RECOGNIZE, UM, THE HUNDRED AND 80 NINES, UH, MAINTENANCE WORKERS THAT WERE KILLED ON THE LINE OF DUTY SINCE 1921.
16 OF THOSE WERE IN THE SAN DIEGO REGION.
UM, SO WE, WE APPRECIATE THE RECOGNITION, UH, W FOR OUR ESSENTIAL WORKERS BECAUSE THEY KEEP OUR ROADS OPEN SO THAT THE GOODS KEEP COMING AND SO OTHER ESSENTIAL WORKERS CAN GET TO WHERE THEY NEED TO.
AND, UH, AND UH, WE, WE ASKED FOR EVERYBODY'S HELP TO SLOW DOWN AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY MOVE OVER WHEN THEY SEE OUR MAINTENANCE WORKERS ON THE HIGHWAYS.
AND, UH, AND AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THIS RECOGNITION.
I THINK YOU COULD STOP A COUNCIL THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS.
STEVEN, UH, GUSTAVO, YOU MENTIONED AL, MIKE AND DANNY.
SO I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE RECOGNIZE THEM SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE HIGHWAY MEDIANS AND ALCOHOL, THE ONLINE APPS, IT'S THE OFF RAMPS, THE, THEY ALL HAVE GREAT.
YOU'RE REPAIRING THINGS QUICKLY.
OUR GRAFFITI'S COVERED OVER AND JUST A COUPLE OF DAYS.
YOU KNOW, WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE CITY IS IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A BROKEN WINDOW WHERE THINGS BEGIN TO ACCUMULATE.
AND, AND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE PEOPLE OF OUR CITY IS THIS IS A NICE PLACE TO, UH, TRAVEL THRILLING.
AND I THINK IT'S, UH, PROMOTE A GOOD BUSINESS WHEN THEY SEE A CLEAN PLACE.
WHEN YOU SEE A DIRTY MEDIAN OR DIRTY AREAS OR BROKEN THINGS, YOU MIGHT NOT WANT TO STOP IN THAT CITY.
SO ESPECIALLY MY THANKS AL MIKE AND DANNY FOR KEEPING OUR CITY LOOKING GOOD AND A REASON WHY PEOPLE CAN STOP FOR FOOD OR, OR ENJOYMENT OR WHATEVER AND ALCOHOL.
WELL, GUSTAVO, THANK YOU FOR COMING TODAY AND PLEASE GIVE OUR BEST TO ALL YOUR STAFF.
ALRIGHT, PROCLAMATION NUMBER THREE IS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK.
THE LAST ITEM UNDER PRESENTATION IS A PROCLAMATION TO CELEBRATE NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK.
AND I HAVE A PROCLAMATION TO READ FOR THIS, THIS AS WELL, UNLESS IT WAS SOMEBODY ELSE.
I GUESS THIS ME WHERE AS PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITIES AND SERVICES THAT ARE A VITAL IMPORTANCE TO THE SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT COMMUNITIES AND TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE AND WELLBEING OF THE PEOPLE OF THE SEA OF ALCOHOL.
AND WHEREAS YOUR 2020 MARSA 60TH ANNUAL NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK SPONSORED BY THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION, BE IT NOW RESOLVED.
I BILL WELLS DO HEREBY DESIGNATE THE WEEK OF MAY 17TH THROUGH MAY 23RD, 2020 AS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK.
UH, IS DIRK, ARE YOU GOING TO SAY A FEW WORDS? YES.
AND WE'RE CERTAINLY EXCITED TO, UH, RECEIVE THIS PROCLAMATION FOR ALL THE WORK THAT OUR STAFF DOES.
IT TAKES AN ARMY AND A TEAM TO DO WHAT WE DO.
AND SO I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT, UM, THE TEAM DOES FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS AND BUSINESSES IN OKLAHOMA AND VERY, VERY EXCITED, UH, FOR NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK AND ALL THAT THEY DO AS A FRONTLINE FIRST RESPONDERS.
THEY ARE OUT THERE PUTTING THEIR, UH, PUTTING, PUTTING IT OUT ON THE LINE EACH AND EVERY DAY.
AND SO WE'RE VERY, VERY GRATEFUL FOR THEM.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS HONOR MAYOR AND IT'S OUR ABSOLUTE PLEASURE TO RECEIVE IT.
COUNSEL, ANY THOUGHTS OR COMMENTS? OKAY.
THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA CHANGES.
STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANY AGENDA CHANGES, MR MAYOR? NO CHANGES, NO TO THE AGENDA.
HOW ABOUT CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SEEING DONE THAT BRINGS US TO CONSENT ITEMS, CONSENT ITEMS AND
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ROUTINE MATTERS AND ACTED BY ONE MOTION ACCORDING TO THE RECOMMENDATION LISTED BELOW WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, A COUNCIL MEMBER OR PERSON IN ATTENDANCE MAY REQUEST DISCUSS WITH A CONSENT ITEM AT THIS TIME.COUNCIL MEMBERS, DID YOU WISH TO PULL ANY OF THE CONSENT ITEMS? I SEE NOBODY THAT WANTS TO.
HOW ABOUT A STAFF? DID YOU WANT TO POINT IN CONSENT ITEMS? YES SIR.
ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FOR US? YES SIR.
OKAY, SIR, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH, GO AHEAD.
UM, ITEM 11 IS ACTUALLY A COMMENT FROM STEVE BUTCHER FROM THE HEARTLAND FIRE TRAINING AND HE SAYS, HEARTLAND FIRE TRAINING AUTHORITY GREATLY APPRECIATED THE ASSISTANCE AND COLLABORATION THE ELK HOME CITY STAFF PROVIDED WITH WORKING ON DEVELOPING THIS LEASE.
THEIR PROFESSIONALISM AND DEDICATION WAS VERY OBVIOUS AND MADE THIS PROJECT VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
MOST NOTABLY, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK DIRK EPPERSON, JEFF MANCHESTER, DAVE RICHARDS, CHIEF SWEENEY AND ALL THEIR STAFF AND THAT CONCLUDES HIS COMMENT.
[7. CONSENT ITEMS: Consent Items are routine matters enacted by one motion according to the RECOMMENDATION listed below. With the concurrence of the City Council, a Council Member or person in attendance may request discussion of a Consent Item at this time.]
WE'LL HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND.ALL RIGHT, MAYOR WELL, YOUR VOTE PLEASE.
COUNCIL MEMBER KENDRICK AND COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE, RIGHT.
[ PUBLIC COMMENT: At this time, any person may address a matter within the jurisdiction of the City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the El Cajon Redevelopment Agency that is not on the Agenda. Comments relating to items on today’s docket are to be taken at the time the item is heard. State law prohibits discussion or action on items not on the Agenda; however, Council, Authority and Agency Members may briefly respond to statements or questions. An item may be placed on a future Agenda.]
THE BRUCE'S PUBLIC COMMENT, I'D LIKE TO ONCE AGAIN REMIND THE PUBLIC TO SUBMIT THEIR COMMENTS VIA THE CITY'S WEBSITE.AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE ALCOHOL REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.
COMMENTS RELATED TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA ALREADY BEEN TAKEN AT THE TIME.
THE ANIMAS HURT STATE LAW PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
HOWEVER, CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AUTHORITY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND TO STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS AND AN ITEM MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
ANGELA, DID YOU RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS? SO I HAVE ONE COMMENT CARD SUBMITTED AND IT READS, UM, JUST A SECOND SIR.
UM, IT READS THE MONICA TRUST APPEAR BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL APPROXIMATELY FOUR YEARS AGO REGARDING NOVEL FAMILY TRUST NOVEL CAREY PAY CAN (484) 261-2900.
REGARDING 1378 PEACH STREET, OKLAHOMA IN JANUARY, THE PROPERTY OWNER APPLIED FOR A VARIANCE ACP NUMBER 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO ZERO ONE IN REGARDS TO A WALL, UH, THERE WAS AN AGREEMENT IT WOULD BE FIVE AND FIVE FEET TALL.
A FEW YEARS LATER, THE PEACH PROPERTY OWNER PROCEEDED TO EXTEND THE WALL TO 10 FEET TALL.
AT THAT POINT, PHOTOS WERE PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
THE ALCOHOL AND CODE ENFORCEMENT WAS ORDERED TO PROCEED WITH CODE VIOLATIONS.
CODE ENFORCEMENT RACE DEFINES $1,000 WHEN THE PROPERTY OWNER REFUSED TO COMPLY.
IN JANUARY, 2020 THE PEER TEACH PROPERTY OWNERS SOUGHT TO HAVE BYLAW VIOLATIONS EXEMPTED WITH AN ACP.
THE MONICA TRUST, SORRY, FILED VARIOUS COMPLAINTS AND OBJECTIONS TO THE ACP INCLUDING POOR QUALITY.
THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT REVERSED THE CITY COUNCIL'S ORDER AND APPROVE THE WALL AT SEVEN FEET FOUR INCHES WITH VARIOUS IMPROVEMENTS.
THE FAILURE OF THE WALL TO MEET BUILDING STANDARDS AND THE FAILURE OF THE PEACH PROPERTY OWNER TO DEMONSTRATE THE WALL MET THE STANDARDS ALL OVER THE NEIGHBORS OBJECTIONS.
WHEN THE MONICA TRUST FILING APPEAL AS THE VICTIM OF PEACH STREET OWNER, THE PLANNER RESPONDED BY ASSESSING A 263 APPEAL FEE TO THIS INNOCENT NEIGHBOR.
THE MONACO TRUST STILL SEEKS 100% CODE COMPLIANCE OF A SIX FOOT WALL AND WAIVER OF ANY ASSESS FEES AGAINST THIS OPPONENT.
WE ARE THE INNOCENT VICTIMS OF THIS AGGRESSIVE BUSINESS PERSON.
COPIES OF THE LETTER BY PLANNING ON MAY FIVE 2020 AND THE LETTERS OF OPPOSITION DATED MAY, 1120 20 WERE FORWARDED TO COUNCIL MEMBER STEVE WIGGLE.
PLEASE STAY SAFE AND ENTER THIS OBJECTION INTO THE COUNCIL MINUTES WHEN COVERT IS OVER AND IT SAYS WE ARE IN SOUTH QUARANTINE.
DULLER IS EXPECTING TO BE AVAILABLE FOR TWO MONTHS DUE TO CANCER SURGERY.
WE SEEK AN OPPORTUNITY TO FURTHER RAISE THIS MATTER IN PERSON BEFORE THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT OR THIS CITY COUNCIL
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AND BEST WISHES FOR EVERYONE'S HEALTH.AND THAT CONCLUDES THEIR COMMENTS.
THANKS VERY MUCH COUNSEL THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS STEVE? NO.
I'M PRETTY SURE JUSTICE GIBSON CERTAINLY, BUT WE ARE AWARE OF THIS AND WE'LL SEND THE COUNCIL A MEMO WITH SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
OR THAT'S THE END OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS FOR ANGELO.
YES, YES OR NO MORE COMMENTS OR THERE ARE NO WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS.
WE ARE NOT PUBLIC HEARINGS AND WE HAVE THREE ITEMS TO CONSIDER.
[13. Adoption of FY 2020-2021 One-Year Action Plan (CDBG and HOME) RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council: Affirms the public hearing is still open and accepts public testimony; Closes the public hearing; Finalizes the allocations of CDBG and HOME funds as a part of the FY 2020-21 One-Year Action Plan; and Adopts the next Resolution, in order, approving and adopting the FY 2020-21 One-Year Action Plan in the form presented, with such monetary and non-monetary changes as approved by the City Manager, and authorizes the City Manager or designee to submit the Plan to HUD and to execute all affiliated documents.]
13 IS THE ADOPTION OF THE FISCAL YEAR OF 2020 AND 2021 ONE YEAR PLAN.AND I LIKE TO ASK STAFF, TELL US ABOUT THIS PLANT.
YEAH, FRANK, YOU WANT TO UM, EXCUSE ME.
THIS IS ANTHONY SHOOT WITH GREEN DEVELOPMENT.
FRANK, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE MARY BROOKE.
SO SHE WILL BE MAKING OUR PRESENTATION.
HI, CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME? YES, VERY GOOD.
WELL GOOD AFTERNOON MARY AND COUNCIL AND THIS IS GOING TO BE THE SECOND OF TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THE ALLOCATION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 AND 21 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN FOR GOING CDBG AND HOME FUNDS.
SO IF YOU'LL RECALL THE FIRST HEARING WAS HELD ON FEBRUARY 25TH AND CITY COUNCIL HAD AN INTRODUCTION OF THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN FOR FISCAL YEAR 20 AND 21 AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOBBYIST MONEY, SO BE ALLOCATED OVER THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR AT THAT TIME, CITY COUNCIL TO NOT MAKE CHANGES TO STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND IF YOUR WORK AT AGAIN THAT ON 13 ATTACHMENTS TWO AND THREE WHICH IS GOING TO BE PAGES ONE 23 THROUGH ONE 26, THOSE ARE THE RECOMMENDED ALLOCATIONS.
SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT CITY COUNCIL FINALIZE THE ALLOCATIONS OF THESE FUNDS AS PART OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 2021 WHEN YOUR ACTION PLAN AND ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION WHEN YOUR ACTION PLAN.
AND JUST LET US KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS? HAVE QUESTIONS POP UP? NO QUESTIONS.
THE PUBLIC HEARING CONTINUES TO BE OPEN FOR THE APRIL 28TH MEETING.
ANGELA, DID YOU RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THIS AUDIT? WE HAVE NO COMMON CARD, SIR.
ALL RIGHT, WELL THEN IT THINKS ABOUT THE COUNSELOR.
DID SOMEBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION ON THIS MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? IS THERE A SECOND? ALL RIGHT, PLEASE VOTE.
COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN? YES.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
UM, WITH SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION OR IS THERE MORE DISCUSSION, A MOVE TO FINALIZE THE ALLOCATIONS OF CDBG AND HOME FUNDS AS A PART OF THE FISCAL YEAR 20 2021 WHEN YOUR ACTION PLAN AND ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AS STATED SECOND.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS MOST.
[14. CDBG Cares Act - First Amendment to FY 2019-20 One-Year Action Plan and Amendment to Citizen Participation Plan RECOMMENDATION: Staff recommends that the City Council: Opens the public hearing and accepts public testimony; Closes the public hearing; and Adopts the next Resolution, in order, amending the FY 2019-20 One-Year Action Plan and Citizen Participation Plan in accordance with the following: Allocate and appropriate funds to a series of homeless prevention projects to include utility and rental assistance for the purpose of ensuring families remain housed; Allocate and appropriate additional funds for emergency shelter and emergency motel voucher programs to provide short-term housing for homeless persons; Adopt the proposed amendments to the Citizen Participation Plan for Consolidated Plan Programs; and Authorize the City Manager, or designee, to make the necessary changes to the One-Year Action Plan, and submit all required documentation to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.]
IT'S THE CDBG CARES ACT FIRST AMENDMENTS OF THE FISCAL YEAR 2019 2021 YEAR ACTION PLAN AND AMENDMENT TO CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN FOR JUNE AS A SIDE.THIS IS STILL MARY BROOKE COX HOUSING SPECIALIST AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CAN EVERYONE SEE THE POWER POINT? OKAY, GREAT.
UM, SO I'LL BE PROVIDING AN OVERVIEW, THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE FISCAL YEAR 2019 AND 2021 YOUR ACTION PLAN AND THE AMENDMENT TO THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN.
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OKAY.SO CONGRESS PASSED THE CREDIT OF RSA REALLY CAN ECONOMIC SECURITY ACT, THE CARES ACT.
UM, IT WAS SIGNED ON MARCH 27TH WHICH MADE NO CDBG CV MONEY AVAILABLE TO THE CITY AND RECEIVE THE CITY WILL BE RECEIVING AN ADDITIONAL $802,656 IN FISCAL YEAR 20 1920.
AND THESE SPENDING MUST BE SPECIFICALLY TO PREVENT, PREPARE FOR AND RESPOND TO THE CURRENT OF OURS DUE TO THE EMERGENCY NATURE OF THESE FUNDS.
SO THE DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT, HUD HAS PROVIDED CITIES WITH THE USE OF WAIVERS IN ORDER TO QUICKLY ALLOCATE THESE FUNDS.
SO AS PART OF THESE WAIVERS, WE NEED TO AMEND BOTH THE 20 1920 ANNUAL ACTION PLAN AS WELL AS THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN.
ARE YOU FINISHED? NO, I'M SORRY.
SO IF YOU'LL RECALL, TYPICALLY WITH THE PUBLIC SERVICES PROGRAMS, THERE'S USUALLY A 15% MAXIMUM.
SO HUD HAS REQUIRED WAIVE THIS REQUIREMENT AND ONLY 15 PER, UM, AND WE CAN USE UP TO A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE FUND PHONE CALL.
BUT SERVICES, WHICH IS WHAT WE RECOMMEND DOING NOW, WE RECEIVED SEVEN APPLICATIONS FROM FOUR DIFFERENT AGENCIES.
UM, THOSE APPLICATIONS RECOMMEND FUNDING THE FOLLOWING.
FIRST WE HAVE EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER, THEIR EMERGENCY SHELTER PROGRAM, WHICH CURRENTLY OPERATES IN THE WINTER MONTHS.
WE PROPOSE EXPANDING THAT INTO THE SUMMER MONTHS AS WELL AND FINDING ANY AMOUNT OF $185,294.
SECONDLY, WE HAVE INTERFAITH SHELTER NETWORK AND THEY ARE PROPOSING A RENTAL AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
THIS WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED FOR THOSE WHO, UM, IT WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE, HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY COBAN SO IT WOULD ASSIST THEM WITH THEIR RENT AND UTILITIES AND THAT SORT OF THING AND JUST GET MY POWERPOINT BECAUSE IT WENT AWAY.
CSA HAS A SIMILAR PROGRAM WITH RENTAL AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE.
WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO FIND THEM IN THE AMOUNT OF $200,000.
UM, WE ARE UNDER THE SLIDE THAT HAS EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL.
SORRY, I DON'T HAVE CONTROL ANYMORE.
I'M LIKE, I'M NOT TOUCHING MY COMPUTER.
OKAY, SO JUST TO RECAP, THE SECOND APPLICATION WOULD BE INTERFACE SHELTER, NETWORK.
UM, THEY'RE HAVING, THEY HAVE A RENTAL AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.
WE WOULD LIKE TO FUND THEM WITH $200,000.
SIMILARLY CSA, UM, ALSO RENTAL AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE, BUT WE RECOMMEND FUNDING IN THE AMOUNT OF $200,000.
AND THEN HOMESTART ALSO HAS A RENTAL AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM AND WE RECOMMEND FINDING THAT IN THE AMOUNT OF $172,362.
AND FINALLY, HOMESTAR ALSO HAS A MOTEL VOUCHER PROGRAM, SO THAT'S GOING TO TAKE EXISTING HOMELESS FOLKS, UM, AND GET THEM INTO A TEMPORARY SHELTER AND TO NAM AND LIKE IN A MOTEL AND WE RECOMMEND FUNDING THAT AND THE AMOUNT OF $45,000.
SO THAT BRINGS OUR TOTAL PUBLIC SERVICES ALLOCATION TO 802,656.
FRANK, CAN YOU GET THE NEXT SLIDE FOR ME PLEASE? THANK YOU.
SO THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN REQUIRES A 30 DAY PUBLIC REVIEW AND COMMENT PERIOD.
IN THE CASE OF AN EMERGENCY, THIS HAS BEEN REDUCED TO A FIVE DAY REVIEW PERIOD PER THE HUD REGULATIONS.
SO WE HAVE INCORPORATED THIS LANGUAGE INTO THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN.
THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF DOING THIS IS TO MAKE SURE WE CAN GET THESE FUNDS TO THE PUBLIC AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.
UM, ADDITIONALLY WE ARE RECOMMENDING NON CHANGES TO BRING THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN IN LINE WITH CURRENT REQUIREMENTS.
SO THE FULL DRAFT OF THE PLAN IS AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE IF ANYONE WANTS A COMPLETE READ OF IT.
SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ACCEPT PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
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UM, AND THEN ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION IN ORDER TO AMEND THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN AND THE FISCAL YEAR 2019 2020 WHEN YOUR ACTION PLAN.AND THEN FOLLOWING THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THE CITY WILL ENTER INTO AGREEMENTS WITH SERVICE PROVIDERS.
OUR GOAL IS TO BEGIN THESE PROGRAMS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
STAFF WILL BEGIN TO PREPARE THE AMENDMENT TO THE ONE YEAR ACTION PLAN AND SUBMIT IT TO HUD AND WE'LL ALSO BE WORKING ON AMENDING THE CITIZEN PARTICIPATION PLAN.
AND THEN I ALSO JUST WANT TO KNOW, UM, THAT THE, THE PROPOSED PROGRAMS ARE NOT OPEN JUST YET.
UM, WE HOPE TO OPEN THESE PROGRAMS IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.
WE WILL MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT ON THE CITY'S COBIT WEBPAGE WITH THE RESIDENT RESOURCES.
UM, IF YOU'LL PLEASE THE PUBLIC COULD JUST CHECK OUR WEBSITE AT ANY TIME, UM, TO KNOW WHEN THE LAUNCH OF THE PROGRAMS WILL HAPPEN.
IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT THE CITY WILL NOT BE TAKING APPLICATIONS FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE, ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION.
UM, THE SERVICE PROVIDERS THEMSELVES WILL TAKE APPLICATIONS AND IT WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION.
BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE TO EMAIL US.
UM, HOUSING@CITYOFALCOHOLAND.US THE PUBLIC IS ABLE TO REACH US THERE WITH QUESTIONS.
UM, BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TEAM IS HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
I COUNSEL YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MARY? YES.
UH, IS THAT THE AMOUNTS THAT THEY DIFFERENT AGENCIES ASKED FOR OR WAS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE DEVELOPED ON OUR, IT'S A COMBINATION OF BOTH.
UM, I CAN TELL YOU ONE OF THE KEY DIFFERENCES YOU'RE SEEING HERE.
EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER INITIALLY ASKED FOR $150,000 FOR THEIR EMERGENCY SHELTER PROGRAM.
AND THEN THEY ALSO PROPOSE A SECOND PROGRAM FOR RAPID REHOUSING IN THE AMOUNT OF $25,000.
AND AFTER DISCUSSING WITH THEM AND SOME CONCERNS WITH HOW RAPID REHOUSING COULD POTENTIALLY BE MARKETED DUE TO THE RELIGIOUS COMPONENT OF THE AGENCY, WE THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE BETTER TO ROLL THAT REQUEST INTO THE EMERGENCY SHELTER PROGRAM AND JUST GIVE THAT PROGRAM A BIGGER BOOST.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE THE AMOUNT THAT THEY REALLY NEEDED.
I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE AGENCY, BUT THEY DID ASK FOR $150,000 AND WE'RE GIVING THEM AN ADDITIONAL, UM, ESSENTIALLY $35,000 ABOVE THEIR ASKING.
WELL I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE SUFFICIENTLY FUNDED BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT A GOOD DC DOING THE COMMUNITY AND THEIR, UH, UH, OVER THE YEARS THAT THEY'VE REALLY BEEN, UH, AN EXCEPTIONAL YES.
NONPROFIT OR OUR CITY AND THE OTHERS.
I DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH EXPENSE, UH, EXPERIENCE WITH, BUT I KNOW WHAT IT IS.
COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER DOES.
WERE THERE ANY AGENCIES THAT REQUESTED FUNDING THAT WERE NOT FUNDED? NO, WE ONLY HAD FOUR AGENCIES, TWO REQUESTED FUNDING, AND ALL FOUR AGENCIES RECEIVED SOME TYPE OF A FUNDING.
UH, THE FUNDING IS COMING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
AND THIS IS USE IT OR LOSE IT MONEY, ISN'T IT? YES.
WE DON'T GET TO CARRY IT OVER FOR ANOTHER YEAR.
IT MUST BE USED FOR COVERT RELATED IMPACT.
I THINK ONE THING THAT'S UNUSUAL ABOUT THIS IS WE HAVE TO FRONT THE $800,000 OUT OF OUR RESERVES AND THEN PURSUE REIMBURSEMENTS ARE CORRECT.
SO I'M UH, GRATEFUL TO THE CITY STAFF FOR PUTTING US IN A FINANCIAL POSITION THAT WE CONFRONT THIS KIND OF MONEY.
I THINK THAT'S TROUBLE THAT MARY, THIS IS MARY WELLS.
I'VE NOTICED THAT THERE'S A, SOME OF THE USUAL PEOPLE THAT I EXPECT THAT WOULD ASK FOR FUNDING LIKE MEALS ON WHEELS AND UM, I'LL SAY OUR CRISIS HOUSE, THEY DIDN'T SHOW UP IN THIS, THIS, THIS BECAUSE THEY JUST DIDN'T RESPONDED.
DID THEY KNOW THAT THIS WAS HAPPENING? UM, SO THERE'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE TWO PIECES OR TWO ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTION AS FIRST OF ALL, IN REGARDS TO MEALS ON WHEELS.
UM, THERE WERE SEVERAL DIFFERENT RESPONSE TEAMS WITHIN THE CITY WORKING TO ASSIST OUR BUSINESSES, OUR RESIDENTS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO MEALS ON WHEELS WHO FREQUENTLY, YOU KNOW, WE DO GIVE THEM CDBG MONEY, WE GAVE THEM MONEY THAT IS NOT CDBG.
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UM, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THEY RECEIVED ABOUT 15,000 OR SO.UM, BUT SO THEY'VE ACTUALLY, THEY IN OUT OUR HELP HAS BOTH ALREADY RECEIVED FUNDING OUTSIDE OF CDBG.
UM, THIS WAY THERE'S NOT QUITE AS MANY RESTRICTIONS AND REPORTING REQUIREMENTS, THAT SORT OF THING.
AND NOW FOR THESE SPECIFIC, THE CDBG CV MONEY, WE DID A LIMITED APPLICATION PROCESS.
SO WE ONLY INVITED SIX AGENCIES THAT WE HAVE WORKED WITH IN THE PAST OR THAT HAVE HAVE EXPRESSED AN INTEREST TO WORKING WITH A CITY.
UM, THAT'S KIND OF IN LINE WITH HOUSING.
SO WE ONLY SUBMITTED A NOTICE OF FUNDING AVAILABILITY TO SIX AGENCIES IN THE REGION.
UM, WE WERE FALLING HEAD GOBLINS DOING THIS LIMITED SOLICITATION, BUT IT WAS A FASTER WAY FOR US TO GET THIS MONEY OUT THERE WHILE STILL MAKING SURE WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT COUNCIL PREVIOUSLY SAID THEY WERE INTERESTED IN.
I CAN'T SAY ANY MORE QUESTIONS.
UM, THIS DOES NOT COUNT $133,000 THAT WE'VE ALREADY ISSUED TO ORGANIZATIONS LIKE A RUPTURE.
SHE'S COUNTY FOR FOOD DISTRIBUTION, UH, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
THIS IS AN ADDITION TO THE 133,000.
SO THE WIND 33 IS ENTIRELY SEPARATE FROM THE CDBG MONEY AND LIKE THE GRAMMAR, WHOEVER SPEAKS TO THOSE DETAILS, BUT IT IS SEPARATE.
THEY WEREN'T EXCLUDED FROM THIS.
UH, THEY, THEY ALREADY GOT SOME MONEY THROUGH A DIFFERENT MONEY.
AND REMEMBER, THESE ARE FOR SOME VERY SPECIFIC PROGRAMS AND THESE ARE THE KIND OF AGENCIES THAT CAN ADDRESS THOSE TYPES OF PROGRAMS SPECIFICALLY.
AND TO CLARIFY WHEN WE ROLLED UP THE MONEY INTO THE EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER, UH, UH, I FORGET WHAT YOU CALL IT, HOMELESS SERVICES OR SOMETHING THAT IS THE NON-RELIGIOUS PART OF THEIR PROGRAM, ISN'T IT?
SO WE HAVE ONE COMMENT CARD OR COMMENTS SUBMITTED AND IT'S FROM HOMESTART AND IT WAS SUBMITTED BY LAURA TRANS SETI, CHRIS SHELLING AND LAUREN POLLOCK AND IT READS.
ARBEL MAYOR WILSON, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF OUR PROPOSAL TO ASSIST VULNERABLE RESIDENTS OF ALCOHOL THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY COVEN 19 HOMESTART HAS BEEN SERVING ALCOHOL AND RESIDENTS FOR OVER 30 YEARS THROUGH A VARIETY OF PROGRAMS AND WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA TO PROVIDE AID TO THOSE WHO NEED IT MOST.
AS A NONPROFIT DEDICATED TO STRAIGHTENING FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES HOME START UTILIZING EVIDENCE BASED PRACTICES TO HELP HOUSEHOLDS OBTAIN SELF SUFFICIENCY.
WE HAVE A STRONG EXPERTISE IN HOMELESS PREVENTION, OUTREACH AND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
THE FUNDING YOU APPROVED TODAY WILL ALLOW US TO HELP FAMILIES WHO ARE STRUGGLING FINANCIALLY DURING THIS CRISIS TO AVOID HOMELESSNESS.
BASED ON WHAT WE ARE SEEING ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS, WORKING WITH FAMILIES WITHIN THE CITY IS DESPERATELY NEEDED.
WE ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND THANK GRAHAM MITCHELL AND HIS AMAZING TEAM WHO QUICKLY AND PROFESSIONALLY CONDUCTED A FAIR AND TRANSPARENT RSP PROCESS TO ENSURE THAT THIS FUNDING GETS OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY WITHOUT DELAY.
AGAIN, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN? YES.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
WELL GENTLEMEN, THIS IS ALL PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD.
UM, ANY MORE DISCUSSION OR SOMEBODY LIKE THAT? THE COMMOTION STOP.
COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN? YES.
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ON THE SCREEN? OKAY.MOTION CARRIES BY A FOUR ZERO VOTES WITH COUNCIL MEMBER.
CAN NEVER KENDRICK I BUTTON YET.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE THERE.
[15. Renette Park Freestanding Light Poles and Wireless Communication Facility - Proposed Specific Plan and Lease Agreement RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council: Opens the public hearing and receives testimony; Closes the public hearing; Moves to adopt the next Resolution, in order, approving the California Environmental Quality Act Exemption; Moves to adopt the next Resolution, in order, approving Specific Plan No. 532; and Moves to adopt the next Resolution, in order, authorizing the City Manager to execute a Lease Agreement with New Cingular Wireless PCS, LLC.]
THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING FOR TODAY, ITEM 15 IS REGARDING THE RYNETTE PARK FREESTANDING LIGHT POLES AND WIRELESS FACILITY STAFF.COULD YOU TELL US ABOUT THOSE PLEASE? YES.
UM, I'M GOING TO ASK FRANK CARSON TO PRESENT THE POWERPOINT AND IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND FRANK, UH, WHEN I SAY NEXT SLIDE.
SO THIS PROJECT IS A, UM, INCLUDES A LEASE AGREEMENT THAT WILL ALLOW THE CITY TO ENTER INTO AN ARRANGEMENT WITH AT AND T, UM, TO AND THIS WILL ALLOW AT AND T TO CONSTRUCT TWO NEW LIGHT POLES FOR PARK ACTIVATION.
UM, IT WOULD ALSO ALLOW AT AND T TO INSTALL A NEW WIRELESS COMMUNICATIONS FACILITY FOR THE USE.
AND THE SPECIFIC PLAN IS, UM, UM, IS TO ALLOW THE LIGHT POLES TO UM, BE AT 80 FEET HIGH.
SO SOME DETAILS ON THE LEASE AGREEMENT.
THIS LEASE AGREEMENT WOULD BE FOR 10 YEARS FOR THREE.
UM, FIVE-YEAR OPTIONS TO RENEW THE LEASE AGREEMENT STARTS OUT WITH A MONTHLY LEASE OF $3,333.
UM, THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT $40,000 PER YEAR.
UM, THERE'S ALSO A RENT CREDIT OF $160 FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE SECOND LIGHT POLE.
UH, THE SECOND LIGHT POLE WILL BE, UM, AVAILABLE TO THE CITY, UH, TO LEASE OUT TO OTHER WIRELESS PROVIDERS AND TO, UM, UH, RENT THAT SPACE TO THOSE WIRELESS PROVIDERS.
THE LIGHTS WILL ALSO BE UNDER THE SOLE CONTROL OF THE CITY.
SO HERE'S AN AERIAL IMAGE OF THE RAT PARK.
RAT PARK IS ABOUT FIVE ACRES AND IT'S SAUNDRA NET BETWEEN EMERALD AND SS.
SO IT'S ABOUT SOUTHWEST SECTION OF THE CITY AND IT'S PREDOMINANTLY LOCATED IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE SITE PLAN HERE SHOWS THE PARK, UM, W, UH, WITH THE RED CIRCLES, UH, AROUND THE, UH, LIGHT STANDARDS.
AND TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA WHERE THOSE ARE LOCATED, UM, THOSE LIGHT STANDARDS ARE ABOUT 20 TO 25 FEET OFF THE PROPERTY LINE.
UM, AND THE LIGHTS ARE LOOKING INTO THE PARK.
THE PROPOSAL EQUIPMENT CABINET CABINET IS ADJACENT TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER, UH, NEXT TO THE PARKING LOT AND YOU CAN SEE IT THERE IN THE RED BOX.
UH, THE EQUIPMENT CABINET WILL BE A SIMILAR BLOCK WALL CONSTRUCTION AS THE RECREATION BUILDING.
UH, THIS ELEVATION DEPICTS THE TWO LIGHT POLES WITH THE, UH, WITH, UH, PANEL ANTENNAS, UH, ON THE WESTERN LIGHT POLE AND THEN SPACE FOR FUTURE ANTENNAS.
THE POLES ARE AGAIN AT 80 FEET IN HEIGHT WITH THE INTENT IS AT THE TOP OF THE LIGHT STANDARD.
AGAIN, THE LIGHTS, UM, ARE, ARE JUST BELOW THAT.
UM, THIS PERSPECTIVE ALSO GIVES YOU AN IDEA THAT, UM, ON WHAT THESE LIFE CENTERS LOOK IN RELATION TO THE EXISTING, UM, PALM TREES THAT ARE LOCATED AT THE PARK.
UH, THIS PHOTO SIMULATION GIVES YOU MORE OF A REALISTIC, UM, APPROACH ON WHAT THESE LIGHT STANDARDS WILL LOOK LIKE AT THE REC CENTER.
AND THIS PHOTO SU SIMULATION IS LOOKING AT THE LIGHTS FROM BURNETT LOOKING EAST.
THE LIGHT POLES ARE TYPICAL THAT YOU WOULD FIND AT A NEIGHBORHOOD PARK.
UM, THE HEIGHT ALLOWS FOR THE PRECISE MODULATION OF THE LIGHTING ON THE FIELD TO MINIMIZE SPILLOVER LIGHTING GLARE ONTO THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
THE 80 FOOT HEIGHT IS NECESSARY TO ACHIEVE THE WIRELESS SIGNAL STRENGTH AND TO LIGHT THE FIELD WHILE MINIMIZING LIGHT AND GLARE.
THE LIGHTING WILL EXTEND THE USAGE OF THE PARK UNTIL THE EVENING HOURS AND IT'S GOING TO MEET AN UNMET UNMET DEMAND FOR RECREATIONAL USE SPORTS AT THE PARK.
WE ALSO BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE FOR ADDITIONAL SAFE ACTIVITIES AT THE PARK INTO THE EVENING HOURS.
WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AS WELL AS OTHERS SEE THAT THIS BY THIS LIGHT IN EXHIBIT THE HOW THE LIGHT CAN BE CONCENTRATED IN THE AREA THAT'S NEEDED FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, THIS FIELD OF PLAY.
UM, THE EXHIBIT SHOWS THAT LIGHT OR THAT GLARE IS
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LIMITED TO LESS THAN 5,000 KENDALL AREA.AND WHAT THAT IS IS JUST A MEASUREMENT THAT'S USED IN DETERMINING, UM, THE INTENSITY OF LIGHT.
THE LIGHT EXPERIENCE ON THE SIDEWALK ADJACENT TO THE SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTIES WOULD BE SIMILAR TO THAT THAT YOU WOULD FIND IN A STREETLIGHT POLE.
IT'S NOT GOING TO CREATE A NUISANCE ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
I HAVE THIS MAP IDENTIFIES THE, IT'S A COVERAGE MAP AND IT SHOWS HOW AT AND T IS FILLING A HOLE IN THEIR COVERAGE.
UM, THE, UM, THE YELLOW AND THE RED INDICATES, UH, LIMITED TO NO COVERAGE AND WITH THE ADDITION OF THE WIRELESS FOR 80 AND T, THEY WILL FILL IN A GAP IN THIS AREA.
AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED TO THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT ON APRIL 20.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, INDICATED THAT THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC PLAN WITH THE WIRELESS, THE LIGHTS AND THE LEASE AGREEMENT SERVES THE PUBLIC, EXCUSE ME, EXCEPT THE LEASE AGREEMENT SERVES THE PUBLIC INTERESTS.
UH, WIRELESS IS IMPORTANT, UH, MEANS OF COMMUNICATION, UM, ESPECIALLY FOR THE COMMUNITY AND EMERGENCY SERVICES.
UM, THIS IS ALSO IN LINE WITH THE CITY'S GENERAL PLAN.
THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AS WELL THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MOVED TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION IN ORDER APPROVING THIS SQL EXEMPTION FOR THIS PROJECT.
THE UM, ALSO TO IMPROVE A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE SPECIFIC PLAN AND THEN FINALLY A THIRD RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH NEW SINGER OR WIRELESS, UM, FOR THE LEASING AND FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF, UM, THE LIGHT POLES STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM STAFF? STEVE, WE'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT FIVE G AND THE CONTROVERSY SURROUNDING THAT THIS PROJECT IS NOT A FIVE GENE PRODUCT PROJECT, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IF WE, UH, SENT OUT A INFORMATION TO THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET AT THE LIGHT, I MEAN ANOTHER PROPERTY.
PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 300 FEET OF THIS, UH, OF THE PARK WERE NOTIFIED OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CITY COUNCIL PUBLIC HEARING AND GIVEN OPPORTUNITIES TO VOICE ANY CONCERNS THEY MAY HAVE HAD.
WERE THERE MANY CONCERNS OR ANY CONCERNS? WE HAD, I BELIEVE SIX COMMENTS.
MOST OF THOSE CONCERNS HAVE TO DO WITH THE UM, PERCEPTION THAT FIVE G THIS PROJECT WAS 5G AND THE UM, PERCEIVED HEALTH RISK OF WIRELESS FACILITIES.
I JUST LIKE TO REMIND THE CITY COUNCIL THAT UM, THOSE ISSUES, UM, ARE GOVERNED BY THE FCC.
TONY, ARE YOU USING THE NEW LED LIGHTS ON THIS? YES, THEY ARE.
SO THE, THE ENERGY CONSUMPTION IS PRETTY LOW.
AND THEN WITH THE TECHNOLOGY IS ABLE TO MINIMIZE ANY LIGHTENED GLARE AND TARGET THE LIGHT TO THE CENTER OF THE FIELD.
WE'D BE PAYING THE ELECTRIC LIGHTS.
WE WILL HAVE, NOW THE CITY WILL PAY FOR THE ELECTRICITY USE OF THE LIGHTS.
AND JUST FOR THE LIGHTS, THE UH, THAT'S CORRECT.
JUST FOR THE LIGHTS, THEY'LL HAVE THEIR OWN ELECTRIC METER.
UM, ARE THERE ANY, UH, ANGELO'S, ANY COMMENTS ON PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS? NO COMMENTS ARE RECEIVED, SIR.
WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION OR SOMETHING LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? LUCIAN? ORDER APPROVING THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY.
COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN? YES.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
MOVE TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION ORDER APPROVING SPECIFIC LAND? FIVE 32 YEAH.
AND TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A LEASE AGREEMENT.
SAY THAT AGAIN? MAYOR WELLS? YEAH.
COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN? YES.
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CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.THE NEXT RESOLUTION IN ORDER TO AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A LEASE AGREEMENT.
ACTUALLY IT WAS TAKEN CARE OF BY MR GOOGLE.
WE'RE AT ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS.
WE HAVE SEVERAL ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS THAT SAY IS AGENDA ITEM 16 IS THE AWARD OF RFP NUMBER ZERO ONE THREE DASH 20 AND THE CONSIDERATION OF A SOLID WASTE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH ED CODE DISPOSAL CORPORATION AND STAFF.
WOULD YOU PLEASE TELL US ABOUT THIS ITEM? THANK YOU MR MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
UM, BEFORE I TURN THE TIME OVER TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR, UH, DIRT EPPERSON AND OUR CONSULTANT FROM OUR THREE RICHARD TAGER.
I WANTED TO BRING TO THE ATTENTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL A LETTER THAT WE RECEIVED FROM WASTE MANAGEMENT.
THAT LETTER WAS RECEIVED LAST TIME AT ABOUT 8:24 PM AND UH, IT WAS SENT TO OUR PURCHASING AGENT.
WE'RE ABLE TO OPEN THAT DOCUMENT UP THIS MORNING.
SO I WANTED TO, UH, READ PORTIONS OF THE LETTER AND THEN RESPOND TO IT.
THIS IS A PROTEST REDDER LETTER REGARDING THE NOTICE OF INTENT TO AWARD OF CITY OF ALCOHOLICS REQUESTS FOR PROPOSAL RFP NUMBER ZERO ONE THREE DASH 20 RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL GARBAGE RECYCLABLE MATERIAL IN OUR ORGANIC WASTE COLLECTIONS, WASTE MANAGEMENT PROTESTS, THE AWARD OF EDCO BY THE CITY, OKLAHOMA ON THE FOLLOWING GROUNDS.
AND AS, UM, I'LL READ THOSE GROUNDS AND THEN I WILL RESPOND.
UH, STAFF WILL RESPOND TO EACH OF THOSE, UM, ISSUES.
UH, THE FIRST CONCERN IS A VIOLATION OF RFP PROTEST PROCEDURE, A QUOTE FIRST AND FOREMOST, IF THE CITY COUNCIL PROCEEDS WITH AGENDA ITEM 16 ON TUESDAY, MAY 12TH AWARDS THE RFP AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF AND PASSES THE PROPOSED RESOLUTION, THEN THE CITY WILL HAVE VIOLATED THE RIGHTS OF THE PROPOSER TO PROTEST AS SET FORTH IN RFP NUMBER 30 ZERO 1320 SECTION 4.18 OF RFP.
UM, THAT THAT SPECIFIC PART OF THE RFP THAT THEY'VE QUOTED SAYS PRIOR TO AWARD OF A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT, THE CITY WILL ISSUE A NOTICE OF INTENT TO AWARD TO ALL PROPOSERS ON THE CITY'S PLANET BIDS WEB SITE PROPOSERS.
SHE'LL HAVE FIVE BUSINESS DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THE NOTICE OF INTENT TO SUBMIT WRITTEN PROTEST OF THE CITY'S INTENT TO AWARD.
SO LET ME RESPOND TO THAT REALLY QUICKLY.
SO THAT THAT PROVISION IN THE RFP SETS A MINIMUM STANDARD OF BY WHICH THE CITY WOULD NOTIFY, UM, ANY RESPONDENTS, SPECIFICALLY THE RESPONDENTS THAT WERE NOT BEING RECOMMENDED TO BE SELECTED.
THE CITY ACTUALLY WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT MINIMUM STANDARD.
WE SENT A LETTER TO BOTH REPUBLIC AND WASTE MANAGEMENT ON MAY THOUGHT MAY 5TH AT SEVEN DAYS PRIOR ABOUT 3:00 PM PRIOR TO TODAY'S HEARING AT ABOUT 3:00 PM, UM, WE SENT A DIRECT EATON, WE SENT THAT LETTER VIA EMAIL.
THEN WE SENT A HARD COPY OF THE LETTER AND WE ACTUALLY UP THAT LETTER WITH A PHONE MESSAGE.
SO, UM, IN STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, THE PLANET
WE WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT STANDARD.
I THINK WE MEET THE INTENT OF UM, THE NOTIFICATION AND GAVE, UH, BOTH PARTIES, PLENTY OF TIME TO RESPOND.
AND IN FACT, JUST A FEW DAYS AFTER THAT LETTER WENT OUT, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL RECEIVED SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM WASTE MANAGEMENT IN THE FORM OF A LETTER FROM THEIR REGIONAL PRESIDENT.
UM, THE SECOND POINT RAISED IN THE PROTEST LETTER IS, I'LL READ THIS QUOTE, CITY COUNCIL'S DUTY TO FULFILL ITS OBLIGATION TO CONDUCT ALL NECESSARY INVESTIGATIONS.
IN ADDITION, SECTION 14.18 OF RFP STATES THAT A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT SHALL ONLY BE AWARDED BY THE CITY, BY THE OUTCOME CITY COUNCIL.
AND BASED UPON THE PROPOSAL, WHICH BEST FULFILLS THE REQUIREMENTS AND PROVIDES THE BEST VALUE TO THE CITY, ITS RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES, NO WORD WILL BE MADE UNTIL ALL NECESSARY INVESTIGATIONS HAVE BEEN MADE TO DETERMINE THE RECEPTIVE RESPONSIVENESS AND RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PROPOSER UNDER CONSIDERATION.
THE CITY COUNCIL SHALL BE THE SOLE JUDGE AS TO THE REFERENCE RESPONSIVENESS AND THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PROPOSER TO SATISFACTORILY PERFORM THE WORK SPECIFIC SPECIFIED WITHIN THE AGREEMENT.
SO LET ME, UH, COMMENT ON THIS.
UH, THIS IS PERHAPS ONE OF THE MOST COMPLEX PROCESSES THAT A COUNCIL WILL EVER CONSIDER IT OF COURSE, IF IT'S ACTION.
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OR FOR ONE OF THOSE REASONS IS WHY THE CITY COUNCIL HIRED OR RECOMMENDED HIRING A CONSULTANT.WE'VE HIRED A CULT CONSULTANT, OUR THREE TO HELP US ANALYZE THAT.
I THINK IT'S BEEN PRETTY THOROUGH VETTING OF THE RESPONSIVENESS OF THE PROPOSALS.
UH, IT'S NOT TYPICAL THAT WE PRESENT THE CITY COUNSEL WITH A COPY OF EACH PROPOSAL OF AN RFP IN ANY SITUATION, AND ESPECIALLY ONE IN WHICH LIKE THIS, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A LOT OF NEGOTIATION DEPENDING ON WHICH DIRECTION THE COUNCIL TAKES.
UM, STAFF IN OUR OPINION HAS BEEN VERY OPEN WITH THE COUNCIL.
WE'VE MET WITH YOU WITH THE ANSWERED HOPEFULLY ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE HAD OR AND IF WE HAVEN'T, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE TODAY.
AND SO I THINK THAT WE'VE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND FULFILLING THE OBLIGATION AND GIVING THE CITY COUNCIL ALL THE INFORMATION POSSIBLE TO MAKE THE BEST DECISION POSSIBLE.
LET ME CONCLUDE WITH THEIR THIRD CONCERN.
AGAIN, QUOTING THE LETTER, ENSURING STAKE HOLDER INPUT.
ONE OF THE PRIMARY GOALS OF THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS AS STATED IN THE RFP IS TO ENSURE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR STAKEHOLDER INPUT REGARDING NEW OR ADDITIONAL SOLID WASTE SERVICES DESIRED FROM THE COLLECTOR PROVIDER INCLUDING RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, AGAIN COMMENTING NOW IT'S IMPORTANT TO COMMENT THAT THIS SECTION IS TO PICKING OUT A CONTEXT OUT OF THE RFP.
THIS SECTION IS ACTUALLY REFERRING TO ONCE A ACCOMPANY.
OUR FRANCHISEE HAS BEEN SELECTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL THAT THERE IS AN INTENT THAT THEY WILL DO STAKEHOLDER INPUT TO UNDERSTAND PROGRAMS THAT ARE DESIRED TO UNDERSTAND ROUTES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
THAT'S WHEN WE'LL BE SEEKING STAKEHOLDER INPUT.
IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE DURING THE EVALUATIVE PROCESS, YOU'LL GET THAT INPUT THROUGH OUR PUBLIC COMMENTING TODAY.
BUT UM, FOR THEM TO, TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT IS UM, ERRONEOUS AND IN TERMS OF FULFILLING OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
SO THOSE ARE THE THREE POINTS THAT WERE MADE IN THE LETTER.
UM, STAFF THINGS THAT, UM, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO SATISFY THOSE THREE ISSUES.
I'LL KIND OF GIVE IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO DETERMINE WHETHER YOU THINK THAT THOSE HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED SATISFACTORILY.
IF NOT, UH, GIVE US SOME DIRECTION OF HOW YOU'D LIKE US TO PROCEED.
OTHERWISE WE'D RECOMMEND THAT THE COUNCIL PROCEED WITH THE AGENDA ITEM.
A GENTLEMAN BEFORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF A YEAR LETTER REFERENCES FIVE BUSINESS DAYS INSTEAD OF FIVE CALENDAR DAYS FOR SEVEN CALENDAR DAYS.
CAN WE CLARIFY THAT? WELL, I THINK, I DON'T THINK THE, UM, I'LL LOOK TO OUR CONSULTANT.
UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S SPECIFIED EITHER ONE.
AND SO TYPICALLY IN CONTRACTS, IF IT DOESN'T SPECIFY EITHER, IT'S JUST CALENDAR DAYS.
RICHARD, DID YOU HAVE A, AN OPINION ON THAT? TYPICALLY THE BUSINESS DAY IS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
CALENDAR DAY WOULD BE SATURDAY THROUGH THE FOLLOWING SUNDAY OR THAT NATURE.
SO USUALLY SEVEN CALENDAR DAYS WOULD COVER FIVE BUSINESS DAYS.
ARE WE CONFIDENT THAT UH, MAKESHIFT TO TODAY, UH, MEETS THAT REQUIREMENT SINCE WE SENT THIS OUT ABOUT THE TIME OF A COUNCIL MEETING, I THINK WE'VE MET THAT REQUIREMENT.
IS THERE ANY EXPECTATION THAT BY ALLOWING MORE TIME THAT WE WOULD GET MUCH DIFFERENT INFORMATION? WELL, REMEMBER THIS IS AN RFP PROCESS.
SO THE RESPONSES THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED ARE THE RESPONSES THAT YOU'RE EVALUATING.
YOU'RE NOT OPENING UP THE RFP, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT DIFFERENT DATA, YOU'RE NOT LOOKING AT DIFFERENT PROPOSALS.
SO, UM, IN OUR PERSPECTIVE, THE DATA IS THE DATA AND THAT'S WHAT'S BEING PRESENTED.
THAT DATA WON'T CHANGE BETWEEN NOW AND A FUTURE DATE.
AND BECAUSE BY THE NATURE OF BIDS, THIS, THIS IS SOLID, RIGHT? THIS CAN'T BE CHANGED.
WE'RE NOT NEGOTIATE ANY LONGER.
AND THIS MAY COME UP LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID, WHICH IS A LITTLE ATYPICAL, IS ONCE WE GOT A PROPOSAL, WE ACTUALLY WENT BACK OUT AFTER WE MET WITH THEM SEVERAL TIMES AND THEY GOT A CHANCE TO UNDERSTAND OUR NEEDS.
WE ACTUALLY ASKED FOR A HIGHEST AND BEST, OUR BEST LAST INVEST PROPOSAL.
SO WE KIND OF WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS TO GET THE BEST DEAL POSSIBLE FOR THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES OF THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.
UH, WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS DELIVERED A LOT OF SERVICES TO DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, NONPROFITS, UH, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
ALL THESE OTHER THINGS IS, ARE
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WE SURE THAT, UH, ECHO WOULD BE AS RESPONSIVE AND UH, UH, UNDERSTANDING AND TAKING CARE OF THOSE NEEDS, UH, IS BASED MANAGEMENT AND BILL FOR A LOT OF THESE THINGS.AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S COMMON WITH A WASTE THEY DO THAT OR, UH, WITH ECHO PROVIDE THE SAME SERVICES, UH, FOR THOSE AGENCIES.
GRANT MR RICK, I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE CAN YOU SAVE THAT QUESTION, MR MCCLELLAN? I THINK THAT'D BE APPROPRIATE TO DO THAT.
I THINK THE FIRST, THE FIRST THING WE HAVE TO DECIDE IS WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO, WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO WITH THIS LETTER AND WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO GRANT AN EXTENSION OF TIME OR WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH THE PROCESS.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT, THOSE QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE THAT WOULD HELP YOU MAKE THAT DECISION.
UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT, YOU CUT OUT THERE AT THE LAST MINUTE.
WHAT I WAS SAYING WAS THAT I'D LIKE THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO DIRECT THEIR QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT TO HELP THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION WOULD BE IN REGARD TO EITHER MOVING FORWARD WITH TODAY'S AGENDA ITEM OR A RECESSIVE FOR TWO WEEKS.
SO STOP STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND, AND I DON'T KNOW, I DIDN'T HEAR THE VERY BEGINNING OF THAT QUESTION.
I DON'T THINK IT WAS DIRECTED TO STAFF OR A COUNCIL STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU, THE COUNCIL CONTINUE THE ITEM TODAY AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
BUT, BUT WE'RE TAKING YOUR TO TAKE COUNCIL DIRECTION.
COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'LL CLARIFY THAT IN YOUR OWN MINDS.
I, I STILL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, UH, DOING IT IN A VIRTUAL MEETING RATHER THAN AN OPEN COUNCIL MEETING AS WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST.
I THINK THAT IS A DELAY TILL WE HAVE A REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING, UH, IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBER.
UH, MAYBE WE COULD EXTEND THE CONTRACT WE HAVE NOW FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME TO GET THROUGH THIS OVERHEAD 19 TIME PERIOD AND THEN, UH, UH, TAKE UP THIS ITEM AFTER THE, UH, UH, ENDEMIC IS PUT TO RISK AND HAVE OUR REGULAR COUNCIL MEETINGS AGAIN.
IT'S KIND OF A SECRET TYPE WAY OF CONDUCTING A MEETING.
GREG, HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THAT? WELL, I THINK, UM, WE AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO DO BUSINESS.
UH, IN FACT, WE'VE, WE'VE TRIED TO DELAY THIS AS LONG AS WE POSSIBLY COULD.
IN FACT, IF YOU'RE HOPING TO, YOU MAY HEAR THIS IN THE PRESENTATION.
IF WE HEAR THAT TODAY, THAT THE GOAL WAS TO ACTUALLY TO PRESENT THIS IN MARCH AND WE'VE BEEN DELAYING THIS, WE'RE AT A POINT RIGHT NOW WHERE WE HAVE BIDS LOCKED IN.
UH, I WORRY THAT THOSE BIDS WON'T GET LOCKED IN AND WHICHEVER COMPANIES CHOOSE CHOSEN, THERE'S A LOT OF EQUIPMENT THAT NEEDS TO BE PURCHASED AS PART OF THE NEW FRANCHISE.
UH, EVEN IF WASTE MANAGEMENT WORKS TO MAINTAIN THAT THERE'S EQUIPMENT THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO PURCHASE THAT.
YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD ME SAY THIS BEFORE, YOU CAN'T GO TO WALMART AND BUY, UM, UH, TRASH TRUCKS OR RECYCLED BINS.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE ORDERED AND PURCHASED.
SO I THINK WE'RE ALREADY PUSHING THE LIMIT.
I THINK THAT WE'VE BEEN PRETTY OPEN WITH THIS PROCESS.
UM, I'D VENTURE TO SAY YOU PROBABLY HAVE MORE PEOPLE WATCHING THIS THAN YOU WOULD HAVE IN A NORMAL COUNCIL CHAMBER SO YOU CAN MAKE THE ARGUMENT WE'RE ACTUALLY MORE PUBLIC THAN WE ARE NORMALLY.
SO, UM, I KNOW WE'VE RECEIVED MORE PUBLIC COMMENTS WE'VE EVER RECEIVED ON AN ITEM, UH, THROUGH THIS PROCESS THEN THAN WE DO THROUGH THE OTHER PROCESS, THROUGH A LIVE COUNCIL MEETING.
OH, I JUST LIKE THE LIFE COUNCIL MEETING AND THEY WERE GONNA ATTEND AND THEY CAN EXPRESS THEIR OPINION, COUNSEL CAN ASSESS THEIR DECISION AT THAT TIME, UH, OUT IN THE OPEN INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DOING IT BEHIND A THEATER COUNCIL MEMBERS.
ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? I'LL, I'LL JUST SHARE MY EXPERIENCE.
UM, I TOO AM CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, THE ABILITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE IN A THING THAT AFFECTS EVERY RESIDENT AND EVERY BUSINESS IN THE CITY.
UH, WITH THAT SAID, I EXPRESSED TO THE SENIOR MANAGER THAT CONCERN AND I, I SUGGESTED AND HE TOOK ME UP ON IT, THAT, UH, HE SENT OUT A PRESS RELEASE AND POST ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA THAT WE NORMALLY DON'T PROMOTE OR PUBLICIZE A SINGLE AGENDA ITEM, BUT RATHER WE DO IT THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS OF, OF A NOTIFICATION WHAT THE WHOLE AGENDA.
BUT IN THIS CASE, I BELIEVE LAST THURSDAY OR FRIDAY, UH, WE DID, UH, SEND OUT, IT IS, UM,
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SOCIAL MEDIA NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC.UH, I MYSELF POSTED ON MY CITY COUNCIL FACEBOOK PAGE, WHICH HAS A LITTLE OVER 900 FOLLOWERS, UH, ABOUT, HEY, THIS IS GOING ON.
DO YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN? AND A HUNDRED AND PEOPLE VIEWED THAT.
UH, AND I RECEIVED ONE COMMENT WHICH WAS COMPLIMENTARY OF WASTE MANAGEMENT.
I ALSO PUT IT ON MY NEXT DOOR, SOCIAL MEDIA AND MY PARTICULAR, UH, BOUNDARIES OF MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORHOOD COVER 5,500 HOUSES IN THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE CITY.
AND I DID NOT GET ANY COMMENTS BACK FROM THAT.
SO IN THIS CASE, NORMALLY WHEN WE, WHEN WE PRO PUBLIC HEARING, IT GOES INTO THE NEWSPAPER, INTO THE LEGAL SECTION, THE LEGAL NOTICES.
AND THAT'S, UNLESS YOU'RE KIND OF GOT A SKILLED INTEREST AND LOOKING THERE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO KNOW IT.
SO IN MY OWN PERSONAL CASE, I ACTUALLY FEEL COMFORTABLE FROM THE 46 EMAILS THAT I RECEIVED ABOUT THIS THING, ABOUT THE 5,500 PEOPLE THAT I NOTIFIED ABOUT THE 900 PEOPLE ON FACEBOOK, AT LEAST IN MY EXPERIENCE.
I THINK THE AWARENESS AND THE OPPORTUNITY PERHAPS HAS BEEN GREATER THAN THROUGH A NOMINAL PROCESS.
SO STEVE, YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF CONTINUE WITH THE ITEM IS AS A SPELL TODAY.
I'M, I CAN GO EITHER WAY ON THAT TO TELL HIM THE TRUTH.
UH, I CAN SHARE YOU MY EXPERIENCE WHAT I JUST DID, BUT I AM NOT OPPOSED TO CONTINUING SAY FOR TWO WEEKS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE GAIN IN ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.
WE HAVEN'T SEEN THE STAFF REPORT YET.
SO REALLY WHAT I WOULD BE LOOKING FOR FROM ADDITIONAL TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO WEIGH IN WOULD BE A NEW POINT OF VIEW THAT I HAVEN'T HEARD YET.
AND I'VE RECEIVED 46 POINTS OF VIEW ABOUT WASTE MANAGEMENT.
I'VE RECEIVED TWO POINTS OF VIEW ABOUT ECHO AND THEY'VE BEEN POSITIVE.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT DIFFERENT POINTS OF VIEW WE WOULD RECEIVE, BUT I'M WILLING TO SAY IF THE COUNCIL'S READY TO TO POSTPONE THIS, I'M OKAY WITH THAT TOO.
MY QUESTION FOR CITY STAFF IS IF WE GO SEVEN MONTHS OUT NOW TO SIX MONTHS OUT, DOES THAT PUT A HARDSHIP ON ANY OF THE BIDDERS IN SECURING EQUIPMENT IN TIME FOR A JANUARY 1ST START DATE? WE HAVE NOT POSED THAT QUESTION SPECIFICALLY OF THEM.
UH, WE DO KNOW THAT WHEN WE ARE LAYING OUT OUR INITIAL CALENDAR, THE GOAL WAS TO GET TO THE COUNCILS NINE MONTHS BEFORE THE CONTRACT CAUSE THAT WAS, WE FELT THAT WAS SUFFICIENT TIME.
SO I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
I THINK THAT'S KIND OF IMPORTANT TO ANSWER BECAUSE IF THEY NEED, UH, MORE THAN SIX MONTHS, WE'RE ALREADY PUSHING THE ENVELOPE.
MY POINT IN PERSPECTIVE WOULD ONLY BE THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHEN WE'RE GOING TO RESUME IN PERSON COUNCIL MEETINGS WITH REGARD TO SOCIAL.
UH, SO IT BE AN INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT TWO WEEKS WE'RE GOING TO BE AT A POINT WHERE WE CAN HAVE OPEN MEETINGS PER THE GOVERNORS SHELTER IN PLACE.
SO THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN.
MY ONLY POINT IS, IS IT'S AN INDEFINITE POSTPONEMENT.
UM, AND TO STEVE'S POINT, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME LOGISTICAL, LOGISTICAL PROBLEMS THAT ARISE IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE CONSTANTLY KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
UM, SO MY FEELING ABOUT THIS IS THE MAIN THING I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT WOULD BE THE LETTER OF PROTEST, IF THAT HAD VALIDITY.
UM, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE CITY MANAGER ANSWERED THOSE QUESTIONS TO MY EXPECTATION THAT WE DID ALL THE RIGHT THINGS IN NOTICING AND FOLLOWING OUR OWN GUIDELINES.
IF I FELT LIKE WE HAD TREATED ONE OF THE PARTIES UNFAIRLY AND THAT TWO MORE WEEKS WOULD RECTIFY THAT, THAT PROBLEM THAT I'D BE ALL FOR IT.
BUT THE TRUTH IS IN RFP PROCESS LIKE THIS, IT'S MOSTLY THE NUMBERS THAT COME OUT IN THE PLAY AND WHAT A GROUP WE'RE GOING TO CHOOSE.
I DON'T SEE THAT CHANGING AT ALL IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS WHERE WE'RE NOT REALLY NEGOTIATE, WE'RE NOT BE CRUNCHING THE NUMBERS, THE NUMBERS ARE WHAT THEY ARE.
WE'VE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE WAY INTO POLY COMMENTS.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THE PUBLIC HAS A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN.
I THINK THAT YOU'RE RIGHT, PHIL.
I THINK IT'S A HOPEFUL BUT PROBABLY UNREALISTIC TO BELIEVE THAT TWO WEEKS IS GOING TO GET US THROUGH THIS.
I, IT COULD POSSIBLY BE QUITE A BIT LONGER.
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ALTHOUGH I WOULD BE UPSET WAITING TWO WEEKS, IT SEEMS TO ME WE SHOULD JUST GET ON WITH IT AND MAKE THE DECISION.WELL, I, I, I ALSO SAID MAYBE WE COULD WAIT, UH, MAYBE WE COULD EXTEND THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE FOR A YEAR AND THEN TAKE IT UP AT THAT TIME WHEN WE HAVE OPEN COUNCIL MEETINGS AND MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION AT THAT TIME INSTEAD OF RUSHING THIS THROUGH AND UH, OR PEOPLE CAN'T ATTEND THE MEETING OR YOU KNOW, INTERACT WITH US IN PERSON.
LIKE NORMALLY WOULD, WELL, I'D HAVE TO DEFER TO LEGAL COUNSEL AS TO WHETHER WE CAN DEFER FOR A YEAR.
I THINK WE PUT OUT OUR PA HAD THE EXPECTATION OF THE PUBLIC THAT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION.
I THINK THE PROCESS IS ONLY GOOD FOR 180 DAYS ONCE IT'S BEEN OPEN.
SO WE DO HAVE A TIMELINE WE HAVE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MEET.
AND THE FURTHER YOU DELAY IT OUT, THE CLOSER YOU GET TO EXCEEDING THE TIMELINE.
I GRAHAM, WE, IT SEEMS LIKE, UM, THERE'S ENOUGH DISAGREEMENT ON THIS THOUGH.
I'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS TO A VOTE UNLESS YOU HAVE AN OBJECTION.
AND I SHOULD LET YOU KNOW ALSO THAT WE REACHED OUT TO EDCO AND FOUND OUT THAT IT TAKES SEVEN TO EIGHT MONTHS TO IMPLEMENT THE TRANSITION PERIOD.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE AT THAT PERIOD OF RIGHT NOW.
WHAT ABOUT WASTE MANAGEMENT? WOULD THEY ALSO NEED SEVEN TO EIGHT MONTHS TO PURCHASE FOOD TRUCKS? ALRIGHT.
SO BOB, UM, YOU SEEM TO BE THE BIGGEST PROPONENT OF UH, PUTTING OFF FOR TWO WEEKS IF YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT.
IF YOU GET A SECOND WE CAN TAKE A VOTE.
WELL, I DON'T THINK TWO WEEKS WOULD DO TO DO THE JOB THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
I'M TALKING ABOUT AN OPEN COUNCIL MEETING, BUT MAYBE, MAYBE LIKE MORGAN SAID, SIX MONTHS WITH RP IS GOOD FOR MAYBE BY THAT TIME WE'LL HAVE OPEN COUNCIL MEETINGS.
DO YOU WANT TO, YOU DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A PROPOSAL THEN THAT WE PUT THIS OFF UNTIL THERE IS AN OPEN COUNCIL MONEY? I WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.
IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT? I'M SORRY, THERE'S NO SECOND FOR THAT.
I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THEN THAT WE CONTINUE ON AND MAKE THIS DECISION TODAY AS PROPOSED.
IS THERE A SECOND PART? ISN'T GARY SECOND? ANGELA MAYOR? WELL, SERVO PLEASE.
DEPUTY MAYOR OR TESE? I VOTED YES.
MOTION CARRIES BY A FOUR ONE VOTE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN VOTING? NO.
THEN GRAHAM, ARE YOU TAKING IT FROM HERE? WELL I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER AND JUST A SECOND, BUT I
[16. Award of RFP No. 013-20 - Residential and Commercial Garbage, Recyclable Material, and Organic Waste Collection Services and Consideration of a Solid Waste Franchise Agreement with EDCO Disposal Corporation RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council adopts the next Resolutions, in order, to: Award RFP No. 013-20 – Residential and Commercial Garbage, Recyclable Material, and Organic Waste Collection Services to EDCO Disposal Corporation; and Enter into a Solid Waste Franchise Agreement with EDCO Disposal Corporation for Commercial Garbage, Recyclable Material and Organic Waste Collection Services for a twenty-year term with the option to renew for an additional five-year period.]
WANT TO INTRODUCE A DIRK EPPERSON, OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR AND RICHARD TAKE OR IRWIN ARE A CONSULTANT FROM OUR THREE CONSULTING GROUP INC.UH, MR OUR GENTLEMEN, I'LL TAKE, I'LL GIVE THE TIME TO YOU.
UH, HOPEFULLY YOU CAN ALL HEAR ME OKAY AND REALLY APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THIS.
UM, I WANT TO GO INTO A LITTLE BIT OF THE HISTORY AND KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE'VE BEEN ON THIS.
IT'S UH, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO SO.
AND, UH, IF YOU'RE A MEMBER, UH, WASTE MANAGEMENT OR ITS ORIGINAL COMPANY, UNIVERSAL REFUSE REMOVAL, UH, HAS BEEN, UH, PROVIDING SOLID WASTE FRANCHISE SERVICES SINCE 1977, UH, MOST RECENTLY, UH, RENEGOTIATED IN 1994.
AND SO WHAT WE SAW WAS THAT THE CURRENT FRANCHISE AGREEMENT EXPIRES ON DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR AT THE END OF THIS YEAR.
SO BACK IN 2018 I CAME BEFORE YOU ALL, UM, PRESENTED A COUNCIL ITEM AND IN JUNE OF 2018, UH, COUNCIL DIRECTED US TO PROCEED WITH PROCURING A NEW FRANCHISE AND WE OUTLINED A SCHEDULE FOR DOING SO AT THAT TIME.
UH, WE HAD SAID THAT, UH, MARCH OF 2020 IS WHEN WE NEEDED TO BE BEFORE YOU AND DUE TO SOME, UH, ISSUES THAT WE'VE HAD ALONG THE WAY, UM, WE'RE HERE TWO MONTHS LATE.
SO, UM, WE ARE KIND OF PUSHING THE TIMELINE HERE.
IN AUGUST OF 2019 CITY COUNCIL AWARDED THE RFP THAT WE BROUGHT, UH, FOR CONSULTANT SERVICES.
AND YOU AWARDED THAT, UH, THAT RFP TO OUR THREE.
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INTRODUCE OUR THREE TO YOU IN JUST A LITTLE BIT, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE MENTION THAT WASTE MANAGEMENT'S LEASE AGREEMENT FOR BRADLEY PROPERTY, UH, WAS AGREED UPON EARLIER OR LATE LAST YEAR AND IT WAS AT A WASTE MANAGEMENT'S REQUEST THAT WE SEPARATE THAT FROM THE FRANCHISE RFP PROCESS.JUST AS A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND IN HISTORY.
SO I COME TO YOU AND WHY ARE THREE, WHY ARE THEY, UM, THE PEOPLE THAT WE SELECTED AND WHY DID THEY, OR HOW AND WHY ARE THEY HERE TO HELP US THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
AND I'M GONNA INTRODUCE YOU TO RICHARD TIG OR IRWIN AND JUST A FEW MOMENTS, BUT I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT OUR THREE, UH, THEY WERE SELECTED AMONG THREE CONSULTANTS WHO COMPETITIVELY BID TO BE OUR CONSULTANT AND HAND WALK US THROUGH THIS PROCESS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW AND WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AS A CITY, WE'RE USING AN UNBIASED AND AND VERY CLEAN PROCEDURE TO GO THROUGH THIS.
AGAIN, WE STARTED ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO IN 2018 WITH THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE METHODICALLY THOUGHT THROUGH THIS, THAT WE KEPT COUNCIL IN THE LOOP AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
AND SO, UM, OUR THREE, THEY HAVE 20 PLUS YEARS OF EXPERIENCE DOING THIS EXACT THING.
THEY PROVIDE SERVICES EXCLUSIVELY TO PUBLIC AGENCIES.
UH, THERE'S NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST OR FAVORITISM.
THEY'RE ALWAYS FAIR AND OBJECTIVE TO CITIES AND HOLLERS.
UM, THEY'VE WORKED WITH MOST OF THE HOLLERS THROUGHOUT THE STATE.
IN FACT, THEY HAVE OVER A HUNDRED RFP NEGOTIATIONS UNDER THEIR BELT, UH, FOR, FOR THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA FROM VERY SMALL TO VERY LARGE CALIFORNIA AGENCIES, THE CITIES, COUNTIES, UM, DISTRICTS, ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT, UM, PROCUREMENT PROCESSES.
THEY, THEY HAVE HELPED WALK PEOPLE THROUGH THIS.
AND I LOVE SOME OF THESE PHOTOS HERE BECAUSE IT SHOWS THEM ACTUALLY GETTING DOWN AND DIRTY.
THAT'S RICHARD THERE THAT I'M TO INTRODUCE RIGHT NOW IN THE WHITE, UH, THE, THE WHITE TYVEC SUIT, UH, SIFTING THROUGH RECYCLABLES.
AND SO, UM, WITH WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, I'D LIKE TO TURN SOME TIME OVER TO RICHARD TAGLE OR IRWIN TO KIND OF EXPLAIN SOME OF THE, THE PROCESS AND HOW WE DEVELOPED, UH, THE, THE OUTCOME THAT WE ARE AT TODAY.
RICHARD, I WANTED TO HIT UP THE SCHEDULE A LITTLE BIT.
I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE EARLIER DISCUSSION TOPICS OF KIND OF WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE THE STARTED.
UM, AS DIRK HAS MENTIONED, WE WERE ABOUT TWO MONTHS BEHIND.
WE'VE HAD TO, UM, GET ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION FROM THE VENDORS, WHICH REALLY HAS PUSHED THE, THE, THE AWARD DATE OUT UNTIL NOW.
UM, THIS IS A POINT OF INFORMATION.
THE RFPS WHEN THEY WERE ISSUED, THEY HAD 180 DAYS VALIDITY DATE.
THAT VALIDITY DATE EXPIRED JUNE 13TH.
SO THAT'S SORT OF THE WINDOW THAT, THAT, UH, THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE.
YOU'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND ASK THEM TO EXTEND THAT, THAT, UH, THEIR PROPOSAL DUE DATES.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE.
HOPEFULLY TONIGHT WE CAN GET THIS MOVING FORWARD.
UM, THE TRANSITION PERIOD IS ABOUT SIX MONTHS.
UM, AND THAT IS CRITICAL FOR A AS SMOOTH A TRANSITION AS YOU CAN HAVE FOR ORDERING TRUCKS, FOR ORDERING CONTAINERS, FOR GOING OUT AND DOING THE REST OF THE ROUTE AUDITS TO MAKING SURE ALL OF THE, THE CUSTOMER SERVICE PIECES MATCH THE BILLING RECORDS, THE BILLING AND BILLING SHEETS AND EQUIPMENT IS READY TO START.
SO YOU'RE READY TO START SERVICES JANUARY 1ST AND THIS REALLY APPLIES TO ALL THE VENDORS, WHETHER IT'S THE INCOMING WASTE MANAGEMENT OR EDCO OR REPUBLIC.
ALL OF THEM ARE GOING TO BE DOING SIMILAR ACTIVITIES TO START.
SO ALL OF THEM HAVE HAD ACTUALLY IN THEIR PROPOSALS, HAD STARTED THEIR TRANSITION BACK IN APRIL, SO THEY'D HAVE, THEY COULD HAVE A SMOOTH TRANSITION STARTING JANUARY 1ST.
WE'RE AT A KIND OF, AT A POINT NOW WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO THE PROCESS WAS PRETTY STRAIGHT FORWARD.
UM, WE HAD THREE PROPOSALS FROM THREE DIFFERENT COMPANIES AND ALL THREE COMPANIES ARE VERY REPUTABLE.
EDCO PRIMARILY HOUSED IN SAN DIEGO AREA, UH, REPUBLIC SERVICES, WHICH IS NATIONAL AND WASTE MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS ALSO NATIONAL.
UM, WASTE MANAGEMENT IS THE LARGEST IN THE U S REPUBLIC IS THE SECOND LARGEST.
EDCO IS ONE OF THE LARGEST INDEPENDENTS IN CALIFORNIA.
UM, WE WERE, UH, THERE'S A FIVE MEMBER REVIEW PANEL THAT WENT THROUGH EVERY PAGE OF THE PROPOSALS AND THERE INCHES, 10 INCHES OF MATERIAL WE HAD TO GO THROUGH.
WE HAD, UM, PEOPLE FROM OUR THREE, MYSELF AND CARRIE BAXTER WERE ON THE SCORING SIDE.
AND THEN WE HAD THREE INDIVIDUALS FROM THE CITY WHO ALSO WERE PART OF THE REVIEW PROCESS, THE INTERVIEW PROCESS AND DID THE SCORING AS WELL.
AND IN TERMS OF A COUPLE OF DRIVERS THAT ARE OCCURRING THAT THE CITY REALLY SHOULD BE AWARE OF THAT IS CHANGING YOUR SERVICES AND IT HAS A PROFOUND IMPACT ON YOUR, YOUR NEW SERVICES YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE STARTING JANUARY 1ST.
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THE COST IMPACT ON YOUR RIGHT PAIRS.UM, LEGISLATION HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, THE LEGISLATURE CHANGES REQUIRES MORE AND MORE ACTIVITY AT THE LOCAL LEVEL.
THE ONES THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS NOW THAT THE CITY IS, UM, HAS SOME COMPLIANCE WITH, BUT IT'S NOT IN FULL COMPLIANCE.
AB THREE 41, WHICH IS MANDATORY COMMERCIAL RECYCLING.
THAT'S BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS.
YOU'RE IN ABOUT 70% COMPLIANCE ON THAT NOW.
SO YOU HAVE SOME, A WAYS TO GO.
UH, AB 18, 26, WHICH IS MANDATORY COMMERCIAL ORGANICS, WHICH, UH, VERY SIMILAR.
IT'S THE, IT'S THE FOOD WASTE AND THE ORGANIC MATERIALS OUT OF THE COMMERCIAL MULTIFAMILY, UH, SCREAMS HAS TO BE ALSO RECOVERED.
THE CITY IS, UM, NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT REQUIREMENT.
AND IS, IS, HAS, HAS RECEIVED A LETTER FROM CALORIE CYCLE STATE AND YOU NEED TO GET THAT IN COMPLIANCE.
UM, AB 1594, IT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS ALSO, AND THAT'S PRETTY SIMPLE THAT, UH, PRIOR TO, UH, JANUARY 1ST, 2020, YOU COULD TAKE YOUR GRAIN WASTE AND YOU COULD HAVE IT USED AS ALTERNATIVE DAILY COVER.
IT WAS A VERY, VERY LOW COST WAY OF GETTING DIVERSION THAT'S GONE.
SO JANUARY 1ST OF THIS YEAR AND NOW HAS TO BE COMPOSTED TO GET DIVERSION CREDIT FROM POWER CYCLE.
UH, THE, THE BIG ONE, THE REALLY LARGE PIECE OF LEGISLATION, WHICH IS A REAL GAME CHANGER FOR EVERY CITY, EVERY COUNTY, EVERY JURISDICTION IN CALIFORNIA IS SB 1383, AND THAT IS THE GREENHOUSE GAS REDUCTION.
HOW IT APPLIES TO SOLID WASTE ACTIVITIES IS THE LEGISLATURE SET SOME GOALS AND REQUIREMENTS THAT BY JANUARY 1ST, 2020 ON A STATEWIDE BASIS, THERE'LL BE A 50% REDUCTION IN, IN ORGANICS BEING DISPOSED OF, LANDFILL STATE HAS NOT MET THAT GOAL.
UM, JULY 20, 2220, UH, THERE ARE MEASUREMENT TOOLS IN PROCESS NOW AGAIN, THAT'S IN PROCESS NOW, JANUARY 22, JANUARY 1ST, 2022, THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS THAT IF THE CITIES DO NOT HAVE ORDINANCES IN PLACE AND THEY'RE NOT MONITORING THE CONTRACTS AND THEY'RE NOT MONITORING THEIR GENERATORS, THEY COULD BE FINED.
THE CITIES CAN BE SIGNED FOR NONCOMPLIANCE.
JANUARY, 2024, THAT EXPANDS OUT WHERE IT'S NOT ONLY THE CITIES, IT CAN BE FINE FOR NONCOMPLIANCE.
THE GENERATORS CAN BE FINE TO NONCOMPLIANCE.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S HITTING HARD.
UM, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE CITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE ARE STRUGGLING WITH THIS LAW.
UM, EVERYBODY'S TRYING TO RAMP UP AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT THAT FOR JURISDICTIONS, WHEN THOSE FINES HIT IN THE LOW END AS HIGH AS $10,000 A DAY FOR NONCOMPLIANCE, THE GENERATORS, IT'S 50 TO $500 PER DAY FOR NONCOMPLIANCE.
THE STATE'S BEEN PRETTY, PRETTY ADAMANT ABOUT PUSHING THIS.
THERE WAS A LOT OF REQUESTS, UH, TO THE STATE TO, TO RELAX THE RULES.
THEY HAVE NOT RELAXED RULES AS OF TODAY.
SO AGAIN, THE KEY LEGISLATION ON JANUARY 1ST YOU, YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE ELECTION.
UH, UH, JANUARY 1ST, 2022, YOU HAVE TO HAVE ORGANICS COLLECTION TO ALL RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES.
IT'S NOT JUST GREEN WASTE, IT'S NOW FOOD WASTE INCLUDED AS WELL.
SO THAT'S A PROGRAM THAT YOUR RESIDENTS GOING TO BE ASKED TO BE PARTICIPATE IN STARTING NEXT JANUARY.
YOUR COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES ARE TECHNICALLY SUPPOSED TO BE PARTICIPATING IN THAT NOW.
THEY JUST HAVE NOT BEEN DOING IT.
IT NOW GOES FROM A MORE OF A VOLUNTARY TO A MANDATORY PIECE.
AS THE CONTAINERS HAVE TO BE LABELED FOR WHAT GOES IN THEM, YOU HAVE TO CONDUCT COMMUNITY OUTRAGE, CONTAMINATION MONITORING AND ENFORCEMENT.
SO, SO THE, THE, THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT AND THE RFP WAS CRAFTED SPECIFICALLY TO GET THE CITY AND YOUR GENERATORS AND YOUR GENERATORS BEING YOUR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS AND YOUR BUSINESS BUSINESS COMMUNITY BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE LAW.
SO IT'S A VERY STRONG EMPHASIS ON LEGISLATIVE REQUIREMENTS, BUNDLING, RECYCLING AND ORGANICS.
SO ALL CUSTOMERS, ALL CUSTOMERS HAVE THE AVAILABILITY TO RECYCLE AND HAVE ORGANICS PROVIDED TO THEM.
THE FACILITIES ARE ALL FULLY PERMITTED AND THEY CAN HANDLE THE CITY'S WASTE STREAM DURING THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT, NEW CARTS AND VEHICLES AT THE NEW, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE CONTRACT.
SO YOU'LL HAVE A NEW FLEET OUT THERE READY TO GO FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
UM, SOME PROTECTIONS FOR YOUR RATE PAIRS.
IT'S AN ANNUAL CPI FLOOR AND CAP, A 1% FLOOR AND A 4% CAP.
IT SHOULD KEEP YOUR RATES PRETTY DARN CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT.
OTHER THINGS WE WE ADDED IN WAS WAS MUCH SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER INSURANCE OR REQUIREMENTS AND A PERFORMANCE BOND ABOUT TWO AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO COVER IN CASE THERE'S A DEFAULT OF THE CONTRACT
NO ONE LIKES TO HEAR IT, BUT IT'S JUST A FACT OF LIFE.
FROM CAL RECYCLE'S PERSPECTIVE WITH THE NEW REGULATIONS, THEY'RE ME THERE.
THEY WERE WRITTEN SPECIFICALLY TO MEET THE STATEWIDE TARGETS.
THEY DID NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT LOCAL COSTS.
THEY HAVE PENALTIES FOR GENERATORS IN CITIES FOR NONCOMPLIANCE.
CURRENTLY ACTUALLY, UNTIL IT WAS LAST JANUARY, GOOD FAITH EFFORT WAS WHAT WAS ALLOWABLE
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AT THE CITY LEVEL.SO EVEN THOUGH THE CITY CURRENTLY IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH SOME OF THE LEGISLATIVE REQUIREMENTS, THE CITY WAS MAKING GOOD FAITH EFFORT AND CAL CYCLE WAS OKAY WITH THAT.
THAT IS NO LONGER AN APPROPRIATE RESPONSE AND POWER CYCLE WILL NOT ACCEPT THAT FAITH EFFORT ANYMORE.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE PROGRAMS PERIOD.
SO AGAIN, IT'S REAL SIMPLE THINGS LIKE THE CURRENT AGREEMENT SAYS THE WASTE MANAGEMENT OF THE CONTRACTOR SHALL OFFER THE PROGRAMS, THE NEW AGREEMENT AND THE NEW LEGISLATION SAYS THEY MUST PROVIDE THEM.
THERE'S A BIG, BIG DIFFERENCE IN HOW THAT'S BEING DONE.
IN TERMS OF THE EVALUATION CRITERIA, WE LOOKED AT QUALIFICATIONS, TECHNICAL APPROACH, SUSTAINABILITY AND SERVICE RATES, RATES TO THE CUSTOMER.
AND THOSE WERE ALL SCORED BY THE FIVE INDIVIDUALS ON THE, ON THE PANEL, WE DID DISCUSS ALL THE PROPOSALS TOGETHER, WE MET TOGETHER, WE DISCUSSED THE QUALIFICATIONS, THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS, ANSWERED QUESTIONS.
BUT WHEN IT CAME TO SCORING THE PROPOSALS, ALL OF US INDIVIDUALLY SCORED THEIR PROPOSALS AND THEN IT WAS COMPILED OUT.
SO WE DIDN'T SIT IN A ROOM AND SCORE THEM.
SO IT'S OBJECTIVE I THINK ACROSS THE BOARD.
AND ONE THING IS IT WAS VERY CONSISTENT.
THE SCORE AND ALL THE WAY ACROSS FROM ALL FIVE VENDORS ARE OUR EVALUATION PANELS.
NOW IF YOU LOOK AT THE COMPOSITE SCORES, IT WAS VERY CLOSE.
UM, EDCO IS JUST SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN WASTE MANAGEMENT.
REPUBLIC WAS, WAS SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER THAN BOTH EDCO AND WASTE MANAGEMENT.
IN TERMS OF QUALIFICATIONS ON EDCO.
UM, THEY ARE VERY EXPERIENCED IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.
UH, THEY PROVIDE SIMILAR SERVICES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AND VERY CLOSE TO THE CITY.
UM, THEY ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CALORIE CYCLE CURRENTLY WITH ALL OF THEIR OTHER CITIES IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY, WHICH IS A VERY GOOD THING.
REFERENCE CHECKS FOR EDCO WERE VERY POSITIVE.
AGAIN, THEY DO MORE THAN WHAT'S REQUIRED.
THEY DO THE, THE COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
THEY DO THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE SPECIAL EVENTS AND HELPING WITH YOUR, YOUR NONPROFITS AND OTHER, UH, COMMUNITY ACTIVITIES THAT YOU USE, WASTE MANAGEMENT IS DOING NOW.
WE WOULD ANTICIPATE THEM CONTINUING TO PROVIDE THOSE, THOSE FREE SERVICES.
UM, THEY HAVE A LOCAL OPERATIONS CENTER, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT THING AND THEY HAVE, THEY BASICALLY OWN ALL OF THEIR POST COLLECTION OPERATION, I.
THEY OWN THEIR DIVERSION FACILITIES AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE USING THEIR OWN FACILITIES.
SO THEY, THEY SCORED SLIGHTLY HIGHER THAN, THAN WASTE MANAGEMENT ON THIS VERY, VERY CLOSE WASTE MANAGEMENT, VERY QUALIFIED COMPANY, REPUBLIC SCORED AS YOU CAN SEE, SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER.
ON THE TECHNICAL APPROACH AGAIN, UH, EDCO DID SCORE HIGHER.
UM, THEY HAVE A VERY LARGE WHAT'S CALLED MATERIAL RECOVERY FACILITY INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE REGION.
UM, SO THEY'RE NOT TAKING MATERIALS, RECOVERABLE MATERIALS AS FAR TO GET PROCESSED, WHICH IS A, A POSITIVE THING ON THE GREENHOUSE GAS IMPACT OF TRANSPORTATION.
AGAIN, NEW CARTS AND TRUCKS THAT STARTED THE CONTRACT, THEY'RE GOING TO BE USING A RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS, SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE RECLAIMING FROM THEIR OWN ORGANICS PROCESSING FACILITIES.
UM, ONE THING IS THEY ARE STARTING TO MIXED ORGANICS COLLECTION A YEAR EARLIER THAN IS STRICTLY REQUIRED.
SO THAT'LL, THAT'LL HELP THE CITY IN ITS COMPLIANCE ISSUES AS WELL AS IT GETS PRETTY CONSISTENT.
YOU HAD AN EARLIER AGENDA ITEM ON YOUR CONSENT CALENDAR FOR YOUR, YOUR UM, CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND SUSTAINABILITY PLAN.
I THINK IT'S VERY CONSISTENT WITH, WITH WHAT WAS IN THERE.
ONE OF THOSE ITEMS WAS INCREASED DIVERSION.
UM, THERE ARE TRUCKS AND THIS IS REALLY VERY IMPORTANT.
THEIR TRUCKS USE A LOT MORE TELEMETRICS TO TRACK DOWN WHERE THEY ARE, GPS TRACKING, WHERE THEY ARE IN AN ACCOUNT AND WHAT TIME OF DAY CAMERA'S ONBOARD.
SO THEY'RE TRACKING ALL THE ACCOUNTS AND SO THEY KNOW WHAT'S GOING IN THE TRUCK, WHAT TIME IT IS, SO THEY CAN ALWAYS FIND THEIR EQUIPMENT.
AGAIN, THEY SCORED A LITTLE HIGHER THAN WASTE MANAGEMENT ON THIS AND SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER THAN REPUBLIC.
AGAIN, UH, THERE ARE FACILITIES, UH, AND WHAT THEY PROPOSED WAS THEY HAD A VERY STRONG CULTURE OF SUSTAINABILITY AND HIGH RECOVERY RATES.
YOUR RECOVERY WITHIN THE CITY IS GONNA MORE THAN DOUBLE FROM WHAT IT CURRENTLY IS NOW UNDER ED CODE.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A SUBSTANTIALLY HIGHER, UH, DIVERSION FROM LANDFILL AND THEY ARE GOING TO PROVIDE A DEDICATED SUSTAINABILITY MANAGER THAT ONLY IS ACCOUNTABLE ONLY TO THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.
UM, VERY CLEARLY TAILORED PUBLIC EDUCATION MATERIALS.
AND, UH, THE OTHER, ANOTHER, ANOTHER ADDED BENEFIT THAT THEY ARE PROVIDED IS, IS IF RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS ASK FOR AN ADDITIONAL RECYCLING CART, ONE WILL BE PROVIDED FREE, TWO WILL BE BRIGHTER FREE AND ORGANICS CARTS ADDITIONAL WOULD BE PROVIDED FOR FREE.
UM, EDCO SCORED HIGHEST ON THIS ONE OUT OF ALL THREE, THREE OF THE COMPANIES.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS A LITTLE CHART THAT THEY HAD PROVIDED IN TERMS OF, OF, OF HOW THEY'RE, UM, UM, GREENHOUSE GAS ISSUES, HOW THEY ATTACK IT.
AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY USING KIND OF A CARBON NEUTRAL APPROACH.
THEY'RE NOT WANTING TO HAVE ANYTHING.
THEIR NET OVERALL OPERATIONS, UH, UH, CONTRIBUTING TO GREENHOUSE GAS EFFECT.
AGAIN, THEY'RE GOING TO BE USING RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS TO FUEL THEIR FLEET NEXT TIME SERVICE RATES LOT MORE COMPLICATED BECAUSE IT'S NOT ONE NUMBER FOR EVERYTHING.
IT'S WHEN YOU HAVE MULTIPLE NUMBERS, RESIDENTIAL, MULTIPLE NUMBERS FOR COMMERCIAL, YOU HAVE COMMERCIAL ORGANICS, COMMERCIAL RECYCLABLES, COMMERCIAL TRASH, ALL OF THAT IN FREQUENCY.
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PROCESS TO DO THAT.BUT OVERALL, ED CO'S RATES WERE LOWER, UM, THAN, THAN THE OTHER TWO VENDORS, THE OTHER TWO PROPOSERS AND OVER THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT THERE, THERE'S A PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL SAVINGS OVER THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT.
SO TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL CON, UH, CUSTOMER IS, YOU'RE RIGHT NOW YOU'RE AT $24 AND 60 CENTS PER MONTH.
YOU ARE SCHEDULED TO HAVE A SMALL RATE INCREASE JULY 1ST SO YOUR CURRENT RATES ARE GOING TO GO UP ABOUT 2.35% THEIR PROPOSAL IS THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2022 SO THAT IS A PRETTY LONG RATE PERIOD OF NO ADDITIONAL RATE INCREASE.
IT'S GOING TO BE 25 89 FOR THAT NEXT THAT BASICALLY AT THAT TWO YEAR PERIOD, BOTH UM, WASTE MANAGEMENT AND REPUBLIC WERE HIGHER AND THEIR RATES, THEIR FIRST RATE INCREASE WOULD BE A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME TOO.
SO ECHO IS PUSHING BACK THEIR RATE INCREASE IN ADDITIONAL SIX MONTHS FOR ALL OUR CUSTOMERS.
OKAY, SO KIND OF AN AD, SORT OF LOOKING AT SOME, SOME LOWS AND HIGHS AS AN AVERAGE RATES THE LOWEST 22 NATIONAL CITY, AGAIN, THEY'RE GOING TO BE UNDERGOING SOME CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS, GET THEIR CONTRACT ALL UP TO THE STANDARDS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE HIGH CHULA VISTA.
I THINK THEY JUST WENT THROUGH THERE.
AS YOU SEE, THAT'S A FAIRLY HIGH RATE.
THE AVERAGE IS 27 97 YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOWER THAN THE AVERAGE AND IN TWO YEARS FROM NOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER THE AVERAGE CAUSE THOSE OTHER RATES ARE GOING TO BE GOING UP.
A QUESTION WAS THAT WITH REGARD TO ED CO'S RATES THOSE AVERAGES? YES.
YOU CAN'T JUST LOOK AT THE TRASH, RIGHT AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE TRASH, RIGHT, THE RECYCLING RATE AND THE ORGANICS RATE ALL COMBINED BECAUSE IT'S THE BUNDLED SERVICE.
YOUR COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS, SAME AS YOUR RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS.
THEY HAVE TO HAVE ALL THREE SERVICE LINES.
THERE ARE SOME EXEMPTIONS FOR VERY LOW QUANTITY ORGANICS CUSTOMERS, BUT ARE THERE, DON'T GENERATE ORGANICS, BUT PRETTY MUCH ALL YOUR COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE THEIR SUBSCRIPTION LEVELS AND IN INCLUDE ORGANICS AND RECYCLING.
SO WE HAVE TO REALLY LOOK AT ALL THREE OF THOSE COMBINED TO GET A FULL CUSTOMER BILL.
AND WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU CAN COMBINE THEM ALL THREE CUBIC YARD TRASH, 96 RECYCLING 64 ORGANICS, WHICH SORT OF THE DEFAULT SIZE MEDCO WAS, WAS A LITTLE BIT LOWER COST THAN THE OTHER TWO, BUT THEY'RE ALL PRETTY CLOSE ON THEIR COMMERCIAL.
BUT ONE, ONE THING, NO MATTER HOW YOU CAN GET AWAY FROM IT, THE, THE, THE COMMERCIAL CUSTOMER, UH, THE RATE OF CORPORATE CUSTOMERS IS GOING TO INCREASE.
AND SIMILAR ON, ON THE LOWS, THE HIGHS SORT OF THE AVERAGE, UM, THE LOWEST SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER, UH, THAT'S NOT A BUNDLED RATE.
YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR AVERAGE, YOU'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO THE AVERAGE.
IN TWO YEARS YOU'RE GOING TO BE AT THE AVERAGE.
SO, SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU'RE OUT OF THE GATE A LITTLE EARLIER THAN SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES.
EVERYBODY'S GONNA CATCH UP VERY, VERY QUICKLY.
AND THEN B, THEN YOUR RATE PACKAGE IS GONNA LOOK PRETTY DARN FAVORABLE BECAUSE YOU DID HAVE RATE CAPS IN PLACE.
SO BEFORE WE MOVE ON, JUST ONE THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS THESE ARE, THESE ARE THE RATES BASED ON THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL FRANCHISE RATE BEING APPLIED TO THE CONTRACT.
SO DURING THE IMPLEMENTATION STAGE, UH, AFTER WE SELECT, UH, WE, WE DO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE TO LOOK AT THE FRANCHISE RATE FOR COMMERCIAL.
UM, AND, AND SO RIGHT NOW IT'S SHOWING THAT ON AVERAGE COMPARED TO 11 OTHER CITIES IN THE COUNTY, UM, IN TWO YEARS WOULD BE $4 HIGHER THAN, THAN THE AVERAGE.
UH, IF WE WANTED TO PLAY WITH THAT A LITTLE BIT, UM, WE COULD ALSO HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE WITH OUR FRANCHISE RATE AND, UH, WHICH WOULD ULTIMATELY AFFECT THE, THE RATE TO THE CUSTOMER.
SO WE CAN LOOK AT THAT AS WELL.
WHEN YOU SAY THE FRANCHISE RATE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CITIES, UH, UH, HEART OF THE REVENUE FRANCHISE FEE? YES.
THE CITY HAS SOME DISCRETION ON THE AMOUNT THAT WOULD CHARGE ANY SERVICE PROVIDER, UH, YES, DURING A STARTUP OR WHATEVER.
THIS IS NOT, UH, TAKING OUR PROPOSAL, CORRECT? IT IS PORTION CORRECT, SIR.
SO THERE ARE OTHER SERVICES THAT ARE RELATED TO TO UH, THE, THE NEW, THE NEW AGREEMENT.
UH, LIKE A TRIP CHARGE, DRY RUN.
IF THEY HAVE TO GO BACK OUT BECAUSE THE, THE BAN WAS BLOCKED.
THERE IS A CHARGE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T PAY THEIR BILL AND THEN THEIR SERVICES RESTARTED.
SET UP FEES TO START A NEW ACCOUNT DELIVERY CHARGE FOR A BIN BIN REMOVAL, THE BIN EXCHANGE FEES IN ADDITION TO JUST THE FREE ONES, UH, THE USE OF A SCOUT OR STINGER TRUCK WHICH HAS THE LITTLE PICKER TRUCKS THAT PICKS UP THE BIN BECAUSE THE TRUCK CAME TO THE BIG COLLECTION TRUCK, CAN'T SERVICE THE BIN, RECITE IT, CAN CONTAMINATION CHARGES.
THOSE ARE ALL CHARGES THAT ARE IN MOST CONTRACTS AND ED CO HAS BASICALLY PUT ZEROS ON.
MOST OF THOSE WERE THE OTHER TWO VENDORS HAVE A CHARGE ASSOCIATED IT.
UM, THE, THE CHARGES THAT YOUR, YOUR CUSTOMERS ARE LIKELY TO GET
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THAT, THAT UH, IS, IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO UM, THE OUTREACH AND, AND UM, AND SUSTAINABILITY COORDINATOR IS RECYCLED CABINET CONTAMINATION CAUSE YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT RECYCLING CONTAMINATION.SO THERE'S A LOT OF EMPHASIS BEING PLACED IN THE, IN THE EDUCATIONAL EFFORTS TO MAKE SURE THE RECYCLABLES ARE CLEAN.
UM, THE REALITY IT IS IF YOU HAVE CONTAMINATED RECYCLABLES, IT IS COST AND THERE'S A HIGHER COST ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
USUALLY ONE FINE PRETTY MUCH CLEANS IT UP.
UM, ANOTHER AREA WHERE WE'VE SEEN THIS THROUGHOUT THE STATE IS OVERAGES.
UM, PARTICULARLY ON THE COMMERCIAL COMMERCIAL SIDE WHERE THEY, THEY DOWNSIZE THEIR CONTAINER TRYING TO SAVE SOME MONEY AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT'S NOT AN A VOLUME AND THEY HAVE PILES OF TRASH ON THE BINS AND AROUND THE BINS.
TYPICALLY THERE'S AN OVERCHARGE ON THAT.
EDCO HAS AGREED NOT TO HAVE AN OVERAGE CHARGE.
I'LL JUST CLEAN IT UP AND PICK IT UP, WHICH IS A VERY, VERY GOOD THING FOR YOUR CUSTOMERS.
ON THE ONE HAND, IT'S A VERY BAD THING FROM THE CUSTOMERS CAUSE THEY NEED TO LEARN TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
THE SAVINGS, AND AGAIN, THIS IS, THIS IS THESE ARE ESTIMATED SAVINGS AT THE CURRENT, AT THEIR PROPOSED RATES AND AT THE CURRENT CUSTOMER SERVICE OVER THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
AND SO, UH, IT BASICALLY IT'S ABOUT $74 MILLION SWING, A LOWER COST TO YOUR CUSTOMERS THAT EDCO WOULD BE, UH, PROVIDING, UH, COMPARED TO THE OTHER VENDORS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL SAVINGS OVER TIME.
AND IN TERMS OF TRANSITION, UM, UH, YOU WILL HAVE A TRANSITION, YOU WILL HAVE A TRANSITION REGARDLESS IF YOU TAKE EDCO OR RETAINED WASTE MANAGEMENT BECAUSE THE COMMERCIAL SERVICES ARE CHANGING.
ALL OF YOUR COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS ARE GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF SERVICE, DIFFERENT SERVICE LEVELS GOING FORWARD.
UM, ED CODE PROVIDED A VERY DETAILED TASK ORIENTED PLAN.
I MEAN IT WAS VERY DETAILED, UM, ON WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO FROM DAY ONE TO DAY 22 DAY 120 ALL THE WAY OUT TILL UNTIL BASICALLY APRIL OF 2021 WHEN EVERYTHING'S FULLY IMPLEMENTED AND IT TAKES SOME TIME TO DO THAT EXTENSION, EXTENSIVE PUBLIC EDUCATION AND OUTREACH.
THIS GOES BACK TO THAT EDUCATION OUTREACH.
IT STARTS NOW ONCE, ONCE AN AWARD IS MADE, THEY'VE SCHEDULED ABOUT 10 DIFFERENT PUBLIC MEETINGS TO HAVE OR COMMUNITY MEETINGS THEY HAVE.
OF COURSE, THIS WAS DONE PRE COVANCE.
SO I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK AROUND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO GET THAT DONE.
BUT THERE IS AN EXTENSIVE PUBLIC EDUCATION PROGRAM TO GET ALL THIS DONE, TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE START WITH THE RIGHT SIZED CONTAINERS AND, AND DO THE RIGHT THING IN THE RIGHT CONTAINER RECYCLE.
AS GOING TO BE KIND OF THE ONE OF THE MOTTOES NEW CARTS, ZERO COLLECTION FLEET BECAUSE THEY'RE USING RE, UM, RE YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE RECYCLING THE GAS OFF OF THEIR ANAEROBIC DIGESTER TO FUEL TO FUEL THEIR FLEET.
I'M A FULL TIME DEDICATED STATE AND BILLING REPRESENTATIVE AND THEY DO HAVE SOME VERY GOOD REASONS, SUCCESSFUL TRANSITIONS ELSEWHERE.
SO THEY DO HAVE A PROVEN TRACK RECORD FOR TRANSITIONS.
REALLY APPRECIATE THE THOROUGH REPORT AND ALL YOUR DURING THIS PROCESS.
UH, IT'S DEFINITELY BEEN A LONG JOURNEY HERE AND WE ARE CERTAINLY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR, YOUR EXPERTISE THAT YOU BRING TO THE TABLE.
UM, WE, WE'VE DEFINITELY GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS WITH EYES WIDE OPEN, TRYING TO LOOK AT EVERYTHING FROM A FAIR POINT OF VIEW.
AND SO NOW WE BRING THIS RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
UH, W ONE, ONE COOL THING THAT I WANTED TO POINT OUT.
UH, RICHARD MENTIONED ABOUT THE RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS AND WITH THE NEW ORGANICS LEGISLATION, UH, THE, THE ORGANICS, BUT THE FOOD WASTE, EVERYTHING THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY SCRAPE OFF THE PLATE AS YOU'RE CUTTING UP DINNER AND YOU KNOW, STRAWBERRY TOPS OR LETTUCE ENDS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE WOULD NORMALLY THAT YOU'D NORMALLY PUT INTO YOUR, YOUR, YOUR GARBAGE BIN WILL GO INTO YOUR GREEN BIN, UH, ALONG WITH YOUR YARD WASTE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND EDCO HAS TWO FACILITIES THAT THAT REALLY IMPRESSED US WHERE THEY WILL TAKE THAT ORGANIC MATERIAL, THE YARD WASTE, THE TREE CLIPPINGS, THE STRAWBERRY TOPPINGS, THE LETTUCE, ALL YOUR FOOD SCRAPS, AND THEY'LL PUT IT THROUGH AN ANAEROBIC DIGESTER.
NOW, I'M NO EXPERT ON THIS, BUT I DO KNOW THAT IT IS POSSIBLE CAUSE IT'S BEING DONE ELSEWHERE, BUT THEY WOULD TAKE THAT AND TURN IT INTO RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS AND THEY'RE PLANNING ON REUSING THOSE SCRAPS AND THE FUEL THAT IT GENERATES TO FUEL THEIR FLEET.
SO YOU CAN IMAGINE YOUR TABLE SCRAP TURNS INTO THE FUEL THAT POWERS THE TRASH TRUCK DRIVING DOWN THE STREET.
UM, ONE OF THE POINT THAT OUT, AND THEY'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES DOING IT, BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AND, AND IT'S JUST A REALLY NEAT, UH, OPPORTUNITY THERE.
SO I BRING THIS RECOMMENDATION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO SIGN AND EXECUTE A NEW 20 YEAR FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH EDCO STARTING JULY 1ST, 2021.
UH, THAT, THAT DATA IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT A LOT OF NEW REGULATIONS COMING INTO PLAY HERE THAT WE NEED TO COMPLY WITH IT, GET IN COMPLIANCE WITH AND UH, THE RECOMMENDATION TO HAVE CITY STAFF IN ED CODE BEGIN COORDINATION OF SERVICE
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CHANGES IN EDUCATION OUTREACH AS WELL AS DIRECT CITY STAFF TO MODIFY CURRENT MUNICIPAL CODE FOR LEGISLATIVE COMPLIANCE AND TO SUPPORT FRANCHISE SERVICES.SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF OUR GUESTS BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT? I HAVE A QUESTION.
UM, THE CHART THAT YOU SHOWED SHOWED, UH, WHAT WAS IT, $75 MILLION DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO? YES, THAT WOULD BE A SUBSTANTIAL SAVINGS FOR US.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD SWAY MY DECISION.
SO, UH, HOW DID YOU CALCULATE THE SAVINGS OR THE LIFETIME VALUE OF THIS CONTRACT? SO WE, WE DID, UH, TWO DIFFERENT WAYS.
UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE YOUR CURRENT CUSTOMER COUNTS NOW AND SERVICE LEVELS.
AND WE PLUGGED IN THE PROPOSED RATES INTO THOSE CURRENT CUSTOMER COUNTS AND SERVICE LEVELS AND THEN APPLIED THE CPI, THE MAXIMUM CPI.
CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IF IT'S GOING TO BE 1% OR 4% IF WE APPLIED IT OUT.
THAT WAS THAT THE DIFFERENTIAL OVER TIME WAS THE $74 MILLION.
SO TO CLARIFY THAT, TO BE SURE FOR ME, YOU'RE SAYING YOU TOOK THE EXISTING BASELINE USAGE PLAY IN TERMS OF A NUMBER OF ACCOUNTS AND WHAT SERVICE THEY HAD AND WHAT CHARGES THEY INCUR AND YOU'LL APPLY THE RATES FROM EACH OF THE THREE BITTERS.
SO WE ALSO, WE ALSO TOOK THEIR, UH, REVENUE PROJECTIONS FROM EACH OF THE BITTERS.
SO WE USE THEIR NUMBERS TO PRESSURE TEST THE METHODOLOGY THAT WE'RE USING.
SO WE HAD REQUESTED, UM, REVENUE PROJECTIONS FROM EACH OF THE BIDDERS.
SO EACH OF THEM INDEPENDENTLY GAVE US THEIR OWN NUMBERS FOR 20 YEARS AND WE PRESSURE TESTED AGAINST THAT.
WE ALSO RAN IT A DIFFERENT WAY AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO OVERLOAD THE SLIDESHOW BECAUSE WE FELT LIKE WE HAD A LOT IN THERE AS IT WAS.
BUT WE ALSO LOOKED AT PROJECTED CUSTOMER SERVICE LEVELS.
SO, UM, SOME AS WE MOVE FORWARD, SOME CUSTOMERS WHO HAVE LOTS OF TRASH AND VERY LITTLE RECYCLING WILL GO TO MORE RECYCLING AND LESS TRASH.
SO THERE'S A DIFFERENT WAY OF LOOKING AT IT.
AND WHEN WE DID THAT, THE DIFFERENCE WAS OVER A HUNDRED MILLION OVER 20 YEARS.
SO I GET THE PART WHERE I'M ADDING THE GREEN, THE BIO WASTE, IT REALLY ADDS A NEW LEVEL OF COSTS.
SO A COMMERCIAL ACCOUNT OWNER TODAY WHO HAS JUST A TRASH AND A RECYCLE DUMPSTER IS KIND OF SEE HIS RATES GO UP QUITE A BIT.
HE'S GOING TO ASK, BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY BIO WASTE.
WHY IS MINE GOING UP SO MUCH THERE? THERE ARE EXEMPTIONS ALLOWABLE AND THIS GOES BACK TO THE CITY IS GOING TO HAVE TO PUT IN PLACE AN ORDINANCE TO ALLOW THIS ONE TO GUIDE IT AND TO ALLOW IT, AND THE EXEMPTIONS ARE FOR VERY, IF THEY CAN DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY HAVE NO ORGANICS IN THEIR TRASH, THEY CAN BE EXEMPTED OUT FROM JUST THE ORGANICS PORTION OF IT SO THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT PORTION OF THE RATE.
BUT THE ORGANIC, THAT'S 20 I THINK IT'S 20 GALLONS PER WEEK COLLECTION.
KEEP IN MIND ORGANICS IS NOT JUST FOOD WASTE, IT'S ALSO PAPER PRODUCTS.
SO YOU KNOW, SO THE, THE, THE, THE INDIVIDUAL, THE BUSINESS THAT'S GOING TO GET PROBABLY HIT THE HARDEST FRANKLY, IS A BUSINESS THAT JUST HAS TRASH ONLY THAT DOES NOT HAVE RECYCLING ORGANICS.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REALLY RECONFIGURE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
THIS IS WHERE IT KIND OF GETS TO REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY AND ED CODE TO WORK HAND IN HAND WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN THEY'RE OUT ROLLING OUT THIS NEW PROGRAMS WITH THE CUSTOMER SERVICE AND THEIR SUSTAINABILITY REP TO RIGHTSIZE THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES ACCOUNTS.
IF A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS HAS FOUR CUBIC YARDS OF TRASH NOW AND NO RECYCLING ORGANICS, THEY DON'T NEED FOUR CUBIC YARDS OF TRASH GOING IN THE FUTURE, THEY'RE GOING TO LOWER THEIR TRASH SIZE.
THEY'RE GOING TO INCREASE THE RECYCLING, INCREASE THE ORGANICS, AND SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER THEIR TRASH.
SO THAT SHOULD HELP THEM MODERATE THEIR OVERALL BILL AS IT SHOULD NOT JUST BE ADD, ADD, ADD SHOULD BE TRACK AND ADD.
BUT, BUT NET, THE MODEL SAYS ON AVERAGE A COMMERCIAL WILL COME UP A HUNDRED BUCKS HIGHER OR SOMETHING.
THE BASIC COMMERCIAL TRASH BILL WENT UP SUBSTANTIALLY.
AND HOW DO WE EXPLAIN THAT A HUNDRED DOLLARS TO THE COMMERCIAL.
YEAH, IT'S, IT'S UM, THE, I THINK WHAT, WHAT YOU HAVE IS A LOT OF CONTRACTS THAT HAVE BEEN IN PLACE A LONG TIME WITH A CPI ESCALATOR.
THE CPI ESCALATOR HAS NOT KEPT PACE WITH THE COST ESCALATORS THAT HAVE GONE ON.
CPI IS, YOU KNOW, TWO AND A HALF PERCENT LABOR COSTS HAVE GONE UP, FOUR OR FIVE, 6% FUEL HAS GONE UP.
THE COST OF A NEW GARBAGE TRUCK IS $350,000.
YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS AGO THERE WERE $125,000 AND
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THE CPI HAS JUST NOT KEPT PACE WITH THAT.SO IN ESSENCE, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS IS WHEN, WHEN YOU'VE GONE OUT TO COMPETITIVE BID, THE RATES HAVE BEEN, IN ESSENCE, REALIGNED TO BE, TO REFLECT CURRENT CHARGES.
AND UNFORTUNATELY THEY'RE ALL GOING OUT AND HOW THEY WILL BE.
TO GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE ON THE AVERAGES, HOW DOES ALCOHOL'S PROPOSED RATES, UH, COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES? OKAY.
MR RTCA, THESE ARE, THESE HAPPENED TO BE EDCO RATES ONLY, RIGHT? ACTUALLY, UM, THE ED, THE ED CO RATE IS THE ALCOHOL IN LINE.
SO THAT'S THE, WE'RE USING ED CO'S RATE PROPOSED RATE TO SHOW THE OKLAHOMA LINE THERE.
GO AHEAD, STEVE AND W WHAT ARE THE, UH, UH, WHAT ARE THE OTHER THREE LINES? ARE THEY THE, WE, WE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT RATES ACROSS THE COUNTY, WHETHER THEY BE EDCO CUSTOMERS, REPUBLIC OR WASTE MANAGEMENT.
AND WE TOOK, UH, THE LOW, THE HIGH AND THEN THE AVERAGE.
AND THEN WHAT WE DID IS WE PROJECTED WITH CPI, THE AVERAGE OVER THE FREEZE TIME THAT EDCO IS HOLDING THEIR RATES.
AND SO THE AVERAGE, YOU CAN SEE TODAY, IT'S TWO 30, ONE 34, AND OUR PROPOSAL IS TWO 49.
SO WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT TOO FAR OUT OF THE BALLPARK WITH WHAT THE REST OF THE COUNTY IS SEEING AS FAR AS RATES ON THE COMMERCIAL.
AND IN TWO YEARS BECAUSE OF OUR TWO, BECAUSE OF OUR, OUR HOLD OR OUR FREEZE ON THAT RATE, UM, WE'RE, IT'S A $4 DIFFERENCE AFTER TWO YEARS.
WOULD IT BE ACCURATE TO SAY THAT AMONG THE THREE BIDDERS, THE RESIDENTIAL SERVICE IS PRETTY MUCH A WASH WITHIN A BUCKET OF EACH OTHER, BUT THERE ARE IN THE COMMERCIAL THAT'S A FAIR STATEMENT.
AND WHAT'S, WHAT'S YOUR OBSERVATION ON THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE THREE BITTERS WHEN IT COMES TO COMMERCIAL? UH, IN TERMS OF THEY ALL, THEY ALL PROVIDE PRETTY, PRETTY DARN GOOD SERVICES ELSEWHERE.
UM, I THINK ED COASTS FOCUSES MORE ON DIVERSION THAN DISPOSAL.
UH, BOTH WASTE MANAGEMENT AND REPUBLIC, THEY OWN LANDFILLS AND, AND SO THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE MORE OF A VERTICAL INTEGRATED PIECE.
AND SO THEY ARE IN ESSENCE TRYING TO USE ALL OF THEIR FACILITIES, INCLUDING THEIR DISPOSAL FACILITIES.
WHEREAS ED CODE, BECAUSE IT DOES NOT OWN LANDFILLS, IT'S FINANCIAL INCENTIVES IS TO KEEP IT OUT OF LANDFILL.
SO THEY PUT MORE EMPHASIS ON DIVERSION AND CALL ONS OR IS BUILDING THEIR OWN BIO WASTE FACILITY.
THEY OWN, WELL, THEIR, THEIR BUILDING, THEY HAVE TO NOW.
AND THE SECOND ONE IS IN PROCESS.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE OPENED UP AT THE VERY, VERY EARLY PARTS OF 2021 WOULD, UH, DID THEY, UH, I'M TRYING TO THINK.
YOU'RE OUT KIND OF PART OF THE COST.
THEY SOLD OUT, UH, THAT FACILITY TO OTHER WASTE COLUMNS.
I BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE CAPACITY, THEY CAN TAKE TONNAGE FROM OTHER, OTHER, OTHER HOLLERS.
IT'S A, IT'S A CAPACITY ISSUE.
SO THEY, THEY COULD MARK IT UP TO ANOTHER WASTE HOLLER AS A WHOLESALER OF THAT SERVICE.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID ASK FOR IN THE PROPOSAL PROCESS IS, IS THE VENDORS NEED TO BE ABLE PROVIDE CAPACITY FOR FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR MATERIALS, FOR YOUR CUSTOMERS, FOR THE TERM IT'S IMPORTANT CAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW SAYING, I DON'T HAVE A PLACE FOR MY RECYCLABLES, I GOT TO COME BACK AND RENEGOTIATE.
AND HENCE THAT'S WHY THE RATE STRUCTURES THAT YOU HAVE, IT'S REALLY JUST, IT'S A, IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED THE WATER SEWER TRASH INDEX.
IT'S STILL A NATIONALLY PUBLICIZED INDEX, BUT IT'S ON THE TOTAL RATE.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO COME IN AND SAY, MY PROCESSING COSTS WENT UP.
OR THE CHINA SWORD RECYCLABLES EVEN EVEN DROPPED EVEN FURTHER THAN IT IS NOW.
THEY DON'T HAVE THAT ABILITY TO DO THAT.
SO THEY'RE LOCKED THEN ON THE ANCILLARY CHARGES PAGE.
DO WE KNOW, UH, BETWEEN REPUBLIC AND WASTE MANAGEMENT, HOW OFTEN THEY ACTUALLY CHARGED THOSE OR WHETHER THEY'RE DISCRETIONARY AND REALLY NEVER CHARGED, UH, THE, THE RECYCLED CAB TO CONTAMINATION CHARGES BEING CHARGED QUITE A BIT NOW.
UM, THE OVERAGE CHARGE, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT BOTH COMPANIES HAVE BEEN BEEN FOLLOWING THROUGH WITH AS WELL SO THAT YOU DO HAVE OVERAGE CHARGES.
AND I THINK DEREK, I THINK YOU'VE HAD SOME CORRESPONDENCE ON THAT.
WE AS THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AS THE OVERSEERS OF THE CONTRACT, WE DO RECEIVE COMMENTS QUITE FREQUENTLY AND WE TRY TO WORK WITH THOSE, THOSE CUSTOMERS.
BUT WE DO GET COMMENTS BY FREQUENTLY ABOUT BEING CHARGED WHEN THEY'RE A DUMPSTER BIN IS OPEN JUST SLIGHTLY BECAUSE IT'S OVERFILLED AND SO THEY'RE CHARGED AN OVERAGE CHARGE.
UM, AND IN SOME CASES, UM, MULTIPLE TIMES A BILLING CYCLE AND MULTIPLE TIMES A MONTH THE NEW CONTRACT HAS PROTOCOLS FOR HOW THE HELL THAT IS TRACKED.
IT CAN'T JUST BE AN AUTOMATIC BILL.
IT HAS TO BE DOCUMENTED, NOTICED
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THE, THE, THE CUSTOMER HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, I DON'T AGREE WITH YOU.SO THEY HAVE TO SHOW VISUAL PROOF THAT IT IS CONTAMINATED OR THERE IS NO VAGINA.
DO YOU THINK NOW IT'S A GOOD TIME TO LOCK IN THIS CONTRACT DURING A, UH, ECONOMICALLY DEPRESSED TIME? UH, DO YOU THINK WE MIGHT GET MORE FAVORABLE? UM, UH, RATES ARE OPPORTUNITIES NOW THAN IF WE WERE TO WAIT TWO OR THREE MONTHS? I DON'T THINK SO.
I THINK ACTUALLY PROPOSALS WERE IN PRIOR TO THIS STARTING REALLY STARTING TO HAPPEN.
SO YOU'VE GOT PRETTY GOOD NUMBERS NOW.
UM, THE OTHER THING THAT HAS OCCURRED, UH, FROM, FROM, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS AGO, ACTUALLY TWO YEARS AGO, IS THE WHOLE RECYCLING MARKET HAS, IS COMPLETELY CRATERED.
THERE IS JUST NO OUTLET OF VIABLE OUTLET FOR A LOT OF RECYCLES.
IT'S A NEGATIVE NUMBER NOW, AND THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS THAT PRICING HAS GONE UP AND THAT IS ACROSS THE STATE.
SO I THINK, I THINK DELAYS IT ACTUALLY, YOU MAY END UP HAVING WORSE CONDITIONS.
IF, IF, IF WE LET, IF WE LET THESE PRICE, THIS PRICING STRUCTURE EXPIRE, UM, LIKE, LIKE RICHARD MENTIONED EARLIER IN JUNE, THE, THE PRICES THAT WE HAVE WILL EXPIRE.
UM, DUE TO COVIN, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO.
UH, WHEN YOU'RE WORKING IN A MURPH, A RECYCLING CENTER, UH, TRYING TO DO PHYSICAL DISTANCING WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, THAT MAY CHANGE THINGS AND, AND REALLY DRIVE UP COSTS.
UM, SO REGARDLESS, UH, THESE PRICES THAT WE HAVE NOW WERE GIVEN TO US PRIOR TO IT, UM, AND, AND PRIOR TO THE RESTRICTIONS THAT WE'RE SEEING.
BUT IT'S, IT'S REALLY IMPERATIVE THAT WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS PRICING BECAUSE, UM, THE GRASS ISN'T ALWAYS GREENER AND WE COULD SEE THESE NUMBERS CHANGE DRASTICALLY AS, AS PEOPLE SAY, THE NEW NORM.
UH, WE, WE DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WILL AFFECT EVERYTHING, BUT IT CAN'T GET BETTER.
IT'LL PROBABLY ONLY GET WORSE.
RICHARD, MY FINAL QUESTION IS, DID YOUR STUDY, UH, EVALUATE THE VALUE, UH, THE QUALITATIVE VALUE OF A CARRIER IN A MARKETPLACE? UM, I'M NOT QUITE SURE.
I CAN FULLY UNDERSTAND, UH, THE QUESTION NOMINATIONS, UH, UH, UH, UH, IN RESPONSE TO REQUESTS.
I, AGAIN, WASTE MANAGEMENT AND REPUBLIC ARE BOTH VERY, VERY LARGE NATIONAL COMPANIES.
UM, ED CO IS ONE OF THE LARGEST INDEPENDENT OPERATORS IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA AND IN PARTICULARLY THE SAN DIEGO REGION, UH, GOOD REFERENCES, GOOD RETURN.
PHIL, DID YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? YES.
UH, RICHARD, THANK YOU FOR THE COMPREHENSIVE REPORT AND EVERYTHING.
UH, YOU'VE DONE FOR THE PAST, HOWEVER LONG YOU'VE BEEN INVESTIGATING.
UM, I JUST, WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF TRUST IN YOU WITH REGARD TO THE DATA, UM, THAT WE'RE RECEIVING, UH, AS DECISION MAKERS.
AND SO JUST TO, NOT THAT I'M PUTTING INTO QUESTION YOUR INTEGRITY, BUT MAYBE JUST TO STATE IT WHEN YOU DO GO THROUGH THIS EVALUATION PROCESS, UM, DO YOU, IS IT A FRESH START, UH, WITH REGARD TO EVALUATING? OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE DONE OVER A HUNDRED OF THESE ALL ALONG THE STATE WASTE MANAGEMENT REPUBLIC, THEY'RE HUGE COMPANIES.
YOU'VE PROBABLY ENCOUNTERED THEM A COUPLE OF TIMES.
CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT WITH REGARD TO EXISTING DATA THAT YOU KNOW FROM OTHER CITIES OR IF YOU EVEN USE THAT OR IT IS A FRESH START? UM, WE DON'T BELIEVE IN WHAT, UM, WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS PROVIDED TO US CONFIDENTIALLY ELSEWHERE IS IT PLAYS INTO HERE AT THE, WE COMPLETELY SEPARATE THAT OUT.
WE DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO THEM.
UM, IF YOU CHECK WITH REPUBLIC AND WASTE MANAGEMENT BOTH, UM, THEY, THEY, UH, WE HAVE A VERY GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH BOTH THOSE COMPANIES AND WE TREAT THEM FAIRLY SAME AS EDCO ALL THE, WE HAVE, I HAVEN'T HAD A WHOLE LOT OF INTERACTION WITH EDCO.
UM, I HAVE WITH BURRTEC WHICH IS THEIR, I THINK THEY'RE KIND OF THEIR, THEIR OTHER COMPANY THAT'S OPERATING MORE OUT OF SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY.
UM, BUT AGAIN, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, OVER THE 20 PLUS YEARS, A LOT OF CONTRACT WORK WITH REPUBLICAN WASTE MANAGEMENT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY FAVORITES OR BIASES.
ALL THREE OF THESE COMPANIES ARE VERY GOOD COMPANIES.
KARA KENDRICK, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I'M GOOD.
OH, I THINK I ANSWERED THEM ALL.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THEN.
UM, IN REGARDS TO THE VOL TO FALL TO THE RECYCLING PORTION OF THIS IS THAT, DOES THAT THROUGH CHINA AND THE WAY CHINA'S BUYING OUR RECYCLING, IT'S, IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, TO BE, TO BE
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OPINIONATED AND BLUNT, IT'S OUR OWN FAULT.UM, AS, AS THE CONSUMERS OF, UH, PARTICIPANTS IN OUR RECYCLING PROGRAMS, WE'VE BEEN TOLD FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS RECYCLING'S FREE.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN BURIED INTO PART OF THE OTHER RATES.
IT'S ALWAYS BEEN, IF, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PUT IT IN THERE CYCLING.
SO WE WERE, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN CONTAMINATED RECYCLABLES, WHICH CHINA DID IS THEY FINALLY CRACKED DOWN AND SAID, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DELIVERING RECYCLES TO ME AND YOU'RE DELIVERING RECYCLES AND TRASH.
SO THEY BASICALLY SAID, WE CANNOT TAKE THE CONTAMINATED MATERIALS THAT, THAT, THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDED TO THEM.
WHAT THE, WHAT THE HOLLARS HAD TO DO WITH WHAT THE, UH, FACILITY OPERATOR HAD TO DO IS, IS THEY HAD TO ADAPT.
WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS THEY'VE HAD TO SLOW THE PROCESSING LINES.
IT HAD TO ADD MORE WORKERS PICKERS ON THE LINES TO KICK THE DEEP TO GET THE RECYCLES CLEANED UP.
THE CONTAMINATION PROBLEM IS, IS GOING AWAY BECAUSE ALSO AS CONSUMERS, US AS PARTICIPANTS AND THE SERVICE PROVIDERS ARE ALL WORKING TOGETHER TO GET THE CONTAMINATION DOWN.
PROBLEM IS THE END MARKETS ARE STILL OVERSEAS.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE, THE SECONDARY PROCESSING MARKETS WITHIN THE U S PROCESS, THE MATERIALS, IS THERE ONE OF THESE THREE COMPANIES THAT HAS A BETTER CHANCE OF, UM, COMPLYING WITH, WITH THE CONTAMINATION ISSUES? I THINK ALL OF THEM.
UM, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY WAISTBAND HAS A VERY LARGE, THEY HAVE VERY GOOD OUTLETS, INTERNATIONAL SODAS, REPUBLIC, UM, ECHO HAS A LITTLE CLEANER MATERIALS.
THEY, THEY, THEY, BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME MARKET REACH THAT WASTE OR REPUBLIC DOES.
THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE CLEAR MATERIALS.
SO THEY HAVE A LITTLE DIFFERENT APPROACHES ON, ON, UM, THEY'VE HAD TO DO IT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THAN SOME OF THESE OTHERS BECAUSE OF THEIR LIMITATIONS.
UM, ANOTHER QUESTION WAS, IT WAS SIMILAR TO THAT, UM, OF THESE THREE COMPANIES, UH, DO ANY OF THEM HAVE, UM, AN ADVANTAGE IN COMPLYING WITH THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA GUIDELINES AND IS MORE LIKELY TO AVOID BEING FINED? I THINK THEY'RE ALL, UM, WORKING TOWARDS, UH, DEVELOPING FACILITIES FOR COMPLIANCE.
UM, THEY ALL HAVE EDUCATIONAL EFFORTS.
THEY ALL KNOW WHAT HAS TO BE DONE.
I THINK IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, ED CO PROVIDED A BETTER WORK PLAN FOR YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU CAN, THE CITY IS GOING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE AND WITH OUR LOCAL FACILITIES.
SO, AND IT'S IRONIC, PART OF IT, AS REPUBLIC WAS IN ESSENCE GOING TO DELIVER THEIR RECYCLABLES TO CO'S FACILITIES FOR RECYCLING.
I DON'T COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE TRASH INDUSTRY, BUT UM, I KNOW THAT UH, THE 75 TO A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR SAVINGS THAT THE CUSTOMER GETS, WHICH IS VERY GOOD.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A FRANCHISE FEE THAT THE CITY GETS AS WELL.
ISN'T THAT TRUE? YES THERE IS.
ARE THOSE FRANCHISE FEES THE SAME WITH ALL THREE COMPANIES OR ARE THEY DIFFERENT? IT'S THE SAME.
IT'S THE SAME ACROSS THE BOARD.
SO MAY IT MAKES THE ONLY THING WE'RE REALLY EVALUATING THE SAVINGS TO THE, TO OUR, OUR CUSTOMERS ARE, WELL THE FLIP SIDE OF IT IS IF THERE WAS MORE REVENUE TO SAY THAT HE WOULD RECEIVE MORE FRANCHISE FEE BECAUSE YOU'RE AS A PERCENTAGE.
WELL THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS BEFORE I GOT TO PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHT.
ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS? YES SIR.
WE RECEIVED A TOTAL OF 98 COMMON CARDS THAT WERE SUBMITTED.
SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE THOUGH DID SUBMIT MULTIPLE COMMENTS.
UM, I I HAVE, UM, SIR, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES, THANK YOU.
UM, I WOULD HAVE 38 COMMENTS TO READ TO YOU.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, I HAVE 31 OTHER CARDS THAT WERE SUBMITTED, BUT THOSE USE THAT TEMPLATE LETTER SO I CAN READ ONE OF THEM.
SO THE FIRST COMMENT, UH, COMES FROM CHRISTINE COSTA FROM WASTE MANAGEMENT AND SHE'S A COMMUNITY AND MUNICIPAL MANAGER AND SHE WROTE, DEAR HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, WASTE MANAGEMENT WOULD LIKE TO PLEASE URGE THE CITY TO CONTINUE.
I AGENDA ITEM 16 FOR NO LESS THAN 30 DAYS AND UP TO 60 DAYS TO ALLOW FOR THE RESUMPTION OF REGULAR PUBLIC HEARINGS SO THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE ABLE TO CONDUCT AN IN PERSON PUBLIC HEARING AND RECEIVE MEANINGFUL INPUT FROM ITS CONDITION, CONSTITUENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS ON THIS CRITICAL LONGTERM CONTRACT.
WE BELIEVE THE PUBLIC SHOULD PARDON? WE BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE SUFFICIENT TIME IN LIGHT OF THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO IS MAY 7TH ORDER LIFTING SOME OF THE RESTRICTIONS OF THE PRIOR LOCAL ORDERS AS TO CERTAIN BUSINESSES AND ACTIVITIES WITH MANDATED STEP GUARDS AND SIGNALING OUR MOVE INTO THE STATES.
PHASE TWO OF THE COVEN 19 PANDEMIC.
WE ARE THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONTINUE AGENDA ITEM 16 BECAUSE CITY RESIDENTS
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WILL NOT BE ABLE TO MEET MEANINGFULLY COMMENT, NOR WILL THE CITY COUNCIL BE ABLE TO FULLY CONSIDER AND RESPOND TO THESE IMPORTANT COMMENTS IN A VIRTUAL MEETING.FURTHERMORE, THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OR REPORT WERE ONLY FILED FRIDAY AFTERNOON FOR THIS LONGTERM CONTRACT, BUT IT'S ONE OF THE LARGEST CONTRACTS IN DOLLAR VALUE THAT THE CITY WOULD GRANT.
THIS CONTRACT AFFECTS EVERY PERSON IN THE COMMUNITY FOR A CONTRACT OF THIS MAGNITUDE AND IMPORTANCE.
THIS IS UNSUFFICIENT TIME TO REVIEW AND PREPARED THOUGHTFUL COMMENTS ON THE STAFF'S REPORT, THE SUPPORTING CITY COUNCIL DOCUMENTS AND THE BASIS FOR ITS RECOMMENDATION.
AS YOU ARE AWARE, WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN A LONGSTANDING PARTNER WITH THE CITY SERVICING ITS RESTED RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS FOR WELL OVER 30 YEARS.
DURING THAT TIME, WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS FORGED DEEP TIES TO THE COMMUNITY AND ITS RESIDENTS DELIVERING SERVICE OF THE HIGHEST QUALITY AND CONTRIBUTING TO THE COMMUNITY AND MANY OTHER WAYS SUCH AS ACTIVE INVOLVEMENT ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE ALCOHOLIC ROTARY CLUB, EAST COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB.
WE HAVE DEMONSTRATED OUR SUPPORT OF THE GREAT COMMUNITY AND THIS ORGANIZATIONS BY FINANCIAL AND IN KIND DONATIONS VALUED AT OVER $1 MILLION.
ADDITIONALLY, WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS HISTORICALLY INVESTED IN NEW TECHNOLOGIES THAT BENEFIT THE ENVIRONMENT.
OKLAHOMA WAS THE FIRST CITY IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY WHERE CNG FLEETS WERE TESTED AND NOW ALCOHOL IS THE FIRST CITY WHERE WE ARE TESTING ELECTRIC COLLECTION VEHICLES, COLLECTION VEHICLES.
INDEED, WE ARE VERY UNIQUELY SITUATED TO CONTINUE PROVIDING A SEAMLESS TRANSITION AND UNPARALLELED SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY.
COMMENCING WITH A START DATE OF JANUARY ONE 2021 FOR RSP ZERO ONE THREE 20 PLEASE KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT RESTING ON OUR LAURELS.
WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS WORKED HARD ON OUR RESPONSE TO PROPOSE A SUPERIOR SERVICE PACKAGE WITH SIGNIFICANT ENHANCEMENTS FOR THIS LONGTERM CONTRACT BASED ON A FOUNDATION OF OUR IN DEPTH KNOWLEDGE OF THE CITY AND THE DISTRICT NEEDS OF ITS CITIZENS.
THE PROPOSALS OF ALL SHOULD BE POSTED AND AVAILABLE OR AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC DISSEMINATION.
WE BELIEVE EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE A COMPLETE REVIEW OF OUR PROPOSAL AS WELL AS THE OTHER PROPOSALS SUBMITTED WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO FULLY AND FAIRLY PARTICIPATE DURING AN IN PERSON PUBLIC HEARING.
FINALLY, IN RESPONSE TO ANY CONCERN THAT A 30 TO 60 DAY CONTINUOUS SHOULD NOT BE GRANTED BECAUSE HE WOULD NOT ALLOW SUFFICIENT TIME FOR AN ORDERLY TRANSITION OF SERVICES BY THE JANUARY 1ST START DATE.
WE ARE HAPPY TO AGREE TO A ONE TO TWO MONTH EXTENSION OF OUR CONTRACT IF NEEDED AND IT SAYS WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.
UM, COMMON TO, AND THIS WAS SUBMITTED BY UH, SOMEBODY WHO DIDN'T PROVIDE THEIR NAME.
THEY SAID, HELLO, I LIVE AND WORK IN OKLAHOMA AS A PROPERTY SUPERVISOR FOR 24 APARTMENT COMMUNITIES IN THE AREA I'M WRITING TO DISCUSS THAT DISTASTE I HAVE FOR WASTE MANAGEMENT.
THE COMPANY CHARGES OVER ITS FEES LEFT AND RIGHT WHEN ANYTHING IS ABOVE THE INVISIBLE LINE AT THE TOP OF THE BIN.
WHEN ASKED TO UPGRADE TO A LARGER FOUR YARD CONTAINER, THEY'VE SAID THAT THEY ARE ON BACK ORDER.
SURPRISINGLY THEY'VE BEEN ON BACK ORDER FOR SIX MONTHS.
I GUESS IT WOULD BE HARD TO CHARGE OVERAGE WHEN THE BIN IS NOT AS FULL.
TO TOP IT OFF, THE COMPANY IS NOW DISCONTINUING ITS SUNDAY SERVICE, ONE OF THE BUSIEST DAYS AND THE APARTMENT AND OTHER HOUSING IS WEEKENDS.
NOT COLLECTING TRASH ON SUNDAY WHEN WE ARE WILLING TO PAY FOR THE EXTRA DATE ONLY ADDS TO A GREATER CHANCE THAT TRASH BINS WILL BE OVERPAID ON MONDAY.
THUS COSTING EVEN MORE OVERAGES.
I STRONGLY REQUEST THAT YOU GO WITH AN AID SUGGESTION OF EDCO THE LONG REIGN OF WASTE MANAGEMENT DOING AS IT POLICES TO THE THOUSANDS OF HOUSEHOLDS AND ALCOHOL NEEDS TO COME TO AN END.
NEXT COMMENT AGAIN FROM SOMEBODY THAT DID NOT SUBMIT THEIR NAME.
UM, WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN THE WORST WASTE REMOVAL ORGANIZATION I HAVE EVER EXPERIENCED.
I SUPPOSE THEY CAN TREAT ME LIKE TRASH BECAUSE THEY HAVE A FIXED CONTRACT IN OCEAN SIDE WHERE MY BUILDING IS LOCATED.
I HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT, INACCURATE INADEQUACY SINCE THE PURCHASE OF MY BUILDING IN 1994 THEY MISS PICKUPS WITH NO CONSEQUENCE OR REIMBURSEMENT TO THE PURCHASER.
THEY'VE DAMAGED MY BUILDING OF WHICH I HAVE TO PAY FOR THE REPAIRS.
MY GATE LUCK FOR ME TO FIND IN THE BUSHES.
WEEKS LATER AFTER I HAD TO HAVE ANOTHER REPLACEMENT SPECIALLY MADE TO MATCH THE ORIGINAL COMBINATION.
ONE TIME IN 20 YEARS SOMEONE OVERLOADED THE DUMPSTER SO IT WOULDN'T, NOT COMPLETELY CLOSE JUST TO CRACK PROMISE, UM, RESTITUTION BY
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THREE DIFFERENT EMPLOYEES WITH THREE DIFFERENT CONFIRMATION NUMBERS WITH NO AVAIL.I LITERALLY HAD TO COLLEGE INSIDE CITY COUNCIL TO HELP ME AMEND THE POOR SERVICE.
I AM THREATENED WITH EXTORTION WHEN I AM TOLD THAT IF I DO NOT PAY THE POOR SERVICE, MY WATER WILL BE TURNED OFF.
I'D GET RID OF HIM IN A HEARTBEAT IF I COULD.
NEXT COMMENT IS FROM FRANK GIORDANO AND IT READS, I HAVE BEEN AN APARTMENT PROPERTY OWNER IN THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA FOR 25 YEARS.
APARTMENT OWNERS HAVE BEEN PAYING WAY TOO MUCH FOR TRUST SERVICE FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
I NOTICED YOU'RE VOTING TO PICK A NEW DISPOSAL SLASH TRASH SERVICE COMPANY FOR THE CITY.
AT THIS MEETING I HAVE BEEN A CUSTOMER OF EDCO AND OTHER TRASH COMPANIES WHO ARE CONSIDERING.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT IN MY EXPERIENCE AT GOOD DISPOSAL IS FAR SUPERIOR BOTH IN CUSTOMER SERVICE AND PRICE FOR SERVICE.
I HIGHLY RECOMMEND ECHO DISPOSAL AND I'M CONFIDENT YOU WILL BE HAPPY WITH THEIR SERVICE AND PRICING.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOICE MY OPINION.
NEXT COMMENT IS, UH, FROM MARY CASE FROM CRISIS HOUSE.
I AM WRITING TO SUPPORT IN SUPPORT OF KEEPING WASTE MANAGEMENT AND ALCOHOL.
I AM DISAPPOINTED WITH THE DECISION TO RECOMMEND ANOTHER COMPANY WITH SUCH SHORT NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC.
WHILE WE UNDERSTAND CITY STAFF IS RECOMMENDING ECHO, WE STRONGLY URGE MORE INFORMATION BE PROVIDED ON THIS DECISION AND ASK THAT WASTE MANAGEMENT BE GIVEN A FAIR OPPORTUNITY TO COMPETE.
ONLY THEN CAN THE CITY ENSURE THE BEST DEAL POSSIBLE FOR RESIDENTS.
WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN A STRONG SUPPORTER OF CRISIS HOUSE AND ALWAYS PRIORITIZES GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND WHATEVER WAY THEY CAN.
OVER THE YEARS, WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN AN ANNUAL SPONSOR OF OUR FUNDRAISING DINNERS AND EVENTS ENABLING US TO DO THE WORK THAT IS SO DESPERATELY NEEDED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
WASTE MANAGEMENT WAS ALSO INSTRUMENTAL IN JOINING THE OVER 200 VOLUNTEERS, SO BUILD THE KABOOM PLAYGROUND.
IN DECEMBER OF 2016 WE ARE ABLE TO ADMINISTER A VARIETY OF PROGRAMS FOR INDIVIDUALS AND FAMILIES EXPERIENCING A CRISIS BECAUSE OF THE STRONG SUPPORTIVE PARTNERS LIKE WASTE MANAGEMENT.
I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT THE CONTINUATION OF WASTE MANAGEMENT SERVICES AND EL CAHONE AND ASK YOU TO DELAY MAKING A DECISION FOR 30 DAYS.
THE MIX IS FROM UM, HAROLD BROWN FROM EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER AND HE WRITES AS CEO AND PRECEDENT OVER EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER.
I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY DISAPPOINTMENT WAS TO CONSIDER CONSIDERATION OF CHANGING SERVICE PROVIDER FOR THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA.
UH, WITH SUCH SHORT NOTICE, THE CITY SHOULD PROVIDE AT LEAST 30 DAYS FOR RESIDENTS TO LEARN ABOUT DIFFERENT OPTIONS AVAILABLE TO THEM.
THIS WAY THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE PUBLIC PROCESS WITH INFORMED OPINIONS.
THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE WITH A 72 HOUR NOTICE.
WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN A KEY COMMUNITY LEADER IN OKLAHOMA FOR DECADES.
THE COMPANY HAS BEEN A STRONG SUPPORTER OF OUR ORGANIZATION.
ADDITIONALLY, OUR LIVING CENTER HAS BEEN A RECIPIENT OF THE GREEN GRANT AWARDED BY WASTE MANAGEMENT FOR COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT.
THEY HAVE ALSO DONATED RECYCLING CONTAINERS AND FOOD FOR THE ANNUAL MOTHER GOOSE PARADE FOOD DRIVE THAT THEY HOST OUR ORGANIZATION VALUES, WASTE MANAGEMENT'S WORK IN OKLAHOMA AND WE WOULD STRONGLY APPRECIATE THEIR CONTINUED PRESENCE IN THE COMMUNITY.
PLEASE RECONSIDER YOUR DECISION.
NEXT COMMENT IS FROM DAVE JOHNSTON, OKLAHOMA ROTARY.
ON BEHALF OF OKLAHOMA ROTARY CLUB.
I WOULD LIKE TO THANK WASTE MANAGEMENT FOR BEING AN IMPORTANT COMMUNITY PARTNER AND ENVIRONMENTAL STORED IN ALCOHOL AND EXPRESS MY DISAPPROVAL OF CONSIDERING A NEW SERVICE PROVIDER FOR OUR CITIES, ESPECIALLY DURING THIS TIME.
A DECISION LIKE THIS SHOULD NOT BE DONE OVER VIDEO CONFERENCE AND WITHOUT ENOUGH TIME FOR RESIDENTS TO WAY THAT THEY'RE PAYING US AND PARTICIPATE IN THE PUBLIC PROCESS.
THE CITY SHOULD PROVIDE AT LEAST 30 DAYS FOR RESIDENTS TO LEARN ABOUT DIFFERENT PROPOSALS.
WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY FOR MORE THAN 40 YEARS AND HAS BUILT A STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
MAKING THIS DECISION WITHOUT PROPER PUBLIC INPUT IS NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY, THE RESPONSIBLE THING TO DO.
IN ADDITION TO KEEPING, UH, ALCOHOL AND CLEAN WASTE MANAGEMENT IS ALSO AN ACTIVE MEMBER AND CONTRIBUTOR TO SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS IN OKLAHOMA, INCLUDING THE ROTARY OKLAHOMA CLUB.
ROTARY CLUB IS LUCKY TO PARTNER WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT TO ACCOMPLISH SHARED GOALS AND LOOKS FORWARD TO CONTINUING THIS PARTNERSHIP IN THE FUTURE.
I STRONGLY SUGGEST YOU RECONSIDER YOUR DECISION.
THE NEXT COMMENT IS FROM UM, CHRIS RUNWELL AND HE IS THE PRECEDENT OF THE OKLAHOMA VALLEY LIONS CLUB AND HE WRITES ON BEHALF OF THE ALCOHOL VALLEY LIONS CLUB, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK WASTE MANAGEMENT FOR BEING AN IMPORTANT COMMUNITY PARTNER AND AN ENVIRONMENTAL
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STEWARD AND ALCOHOL AND EXPRESS MY DISAPPROVAL OF CONSIDERING A NEW SERVICE PROVIDER FOR A CITY, ESPECIALLY DURING THIS TIME.UM, I BELIEVE THE NEXT PARAGRAPH IS SAME AS THE PREVIOUS THAT HE HAS IN ADDITION TO HELPING KEEP ALCOHOL CLEAN.
WASTE MANAGEMENT IS ALSO AN ACTIVE MEMBER AND CONTRIBUTOR TO SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS AND ALCOHOL AND INCLUDING THE LION'S CLUB.
AND WE ARE LUCKY TO PARTNER WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT TO ACCOMPLISH YOUR GOALS AND LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THIS IN THE FUTURE.
UM, NEXT COMMON IS FROM DEBORAH EMERSON FROM ST MADELINE SOPHIE CENTER ON BEHALF OF SAYING MADELINE SOPHIE CENTER, I AM WRITING TO, UH, EXPRESS MY DISAGREEMENT WITH A DECISION TO RECOMMEND A NEW SERVICE PROVIDER.
IT IS ALREADY VERY TOUGH FOR RESIDENTS TO FULLY ENGAGE IN THE PUBLIC PROCESS.
AMID THE MANY IMPACTS OF CODE 19 ON OUR LIVES AND ADEQUATE NOTICE AND INFORMATION SHARING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR ELDERLY AND VULNERABLE POPULATIONS THAT FACE THE MOST CHALLENGES.
WASTE MANAGEMENT IS AN IMPORTANT COMMUNITY MEMBER WITH A LONG TRACK RECORD PROVIDING OUTSTANDING SERVICE TO ALCOHOL.
THEY HAVE BEEN A WONDERFUL PARTNER TO OUR ORGANIZATION AND MANY OTHERS THROUGHOUT THE REGION.
WASTE MANAGEMENT IS AN ASSET TO OKLAHOMA AND ITS RESIDENTS AND I AM PLEASED TO SUPPORT THEIR CONTINUED OPERATIONS.
I URGE YOU TO MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE BY DELAYING THE DECISION, ALLOWING RESIDENTS MORE TIME TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PUBLIC PROCESS.
THE NEXT, UH, THE NEXT CARD WAS SUBMITTED BY JOE ALEXANDRIA AND MS ALLEGORY ACTUALLY SUBMITTED FOR CALMING CARDS.
AND WITH YOUR PERMISSION, I WILL READ THE LATEST ONE UNLESS YOU INSTRUCT ME TO READ ALL OF THEM.
I BELIEVE THE PUBLIC NEEDED MORE INFORMATION IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DECISION MAKING PROCESSES FOR SELECTING A SERVICE PROVIDER FOR ALCOHOL.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY IS TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND PARTICIPATION VIRTUALLY.
HOWEVER, THIS DECISION WILL IMPACT ALL RESIDENTS AND WE NEED MORE TIME TO HAVE INFORMED OPINIONS ON THIS ISSUE.
I ASKED THE CITY TO PLEASE DELAY THIS DECISION.
UM, NEXT CALMING, UM, IS BY GENE REESER.
HE ALSO SUBMITTED TWO CARDS TO PUBLIC COMMON CARDS AND IT, IT READS, I'M CONCERNED TO HEAR THAT THE CITY STAFF IS RECOMMENDING A DIFFERENT SERVICE PROVIDER FOR OKLAHOMA.
MANY OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE FACING CHALLENGES WHILE IN QUARANTINE.
IT IS NOT FEASIBLE FOR ANY OF THE RESIDENTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PUBLIC PROCESS.
ELDERLY AND VULNERABLE POPULATIONS NEED TIMELY AND ADEQUATE INFORMATION TO FULLY ENGAGE IN THE PROCESS.
I ASKED THE CITY TO DELAY THE DECISION FOR AT LEAST 30 DAYS.
I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WASTE MANAGEMENT SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE THEIR SERVICE IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THE COMPANY HAS BEEN HERE DOING AN OUTSTANDING, OUTSTANDING JOB FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER.
NOT ONLY ARE THEY THEIR WORKERS GREAT AT WHAT THEY DO.
THEY ARE EXTREMELY ACTIVE MEMBERS AND RESIDENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO THAT WASTE MANAGEMENT SPONSORS MANY GROUPS AND ORGANIZATIONS IN TOWN AND THEY'RE ALWAYS, OH, I'M SORRY.
THEY'RE ALWAYS INVOLVED IN MAKING OUR CITY BETTER.
MOVING ON FROM SUCH A RELIABLE COMPANY WITH SUCH LITTLE PUBLIC INFORMATION ON OUR OPTIONS, IT'S NOT ELCA HOME'S BEST AND 10 INTEREST.
I ARE DUE TO ALLOW MORE TIME FOR THIS DECISION AND CHOOSE THE BEST DEAL FOR THE CITY.
UH, THE NEXT SUBMITTER, RAMONA, UM, BOMBER SAVITA THREE CARDS AND HER LAST CARD READS, UH, IN I RESPECT FELICE REQUEST THAT THE CITY GIVE THE COMMUNITY MORE TIME TO WEIGH IN ON ANY DECISION RELATED TO WASTE HAULING SERVICES.
SO A LARGE CONTRACT WITH MAJOR IMPACTS FOR RESIDENTS SHOULD BE GIVEN CAREFUL PUBLIC CONSIDERATION.
QUARANTINE HAS ALREADY MADE ACCESS TO INFORMATION AND PUBLIC PARTICIPATE PARTICIPATION DIFFICULT, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR ELDERLY.
PLEASE CONSIDER GIVING THE COMMUNITY AT MORE INFORMATION ON ITS AVAILABLE OPTIONS AND AT LEAST 30 DAYS OR IN TOTALLY NORMAL PUBLIC HEARING CAN BE HELD AT CITY HALL BEFORE MOVING FORWARD ON SUCH A CRITICAL DECISION.
UM, LET ME SEE, THE NEXT CARD IS FROM DEBBIE GEORGE.
AND MS. GEORGE SUBMITTED FOUR CARDS.
THE LAST PART SHE SUBMITTED READS.
UM, I BELIEVE THE CITY NEEDS TO GIVE MORE ADVANCED NOTICE WHEN MAKING SUCH BIG DECISIONS LIKE CHANGING SERVICE PROVIDERS.
I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER POSTPONING A DECISION UNTIL THE PUBLIC HAS HAD TIME TO LOOK AT THE OPTIONS AVAILABLE AND CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS.
NEXT CARD IS FROM JEFFREY HATFIELD
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AND HE SUBMITTED TO PUBLIC CARD COMMENTS.THE LAST ONE READS, IT IS ALREADY VERY TOUGH FOR RESIDENTS TO FULLY ENGAGE IN THE PUBLIC PROCESS AMID THE MEN.
MANY IMPACTS OF COVERT 19 ON OUR LIVES AND ADEQUATE NOTICE AND INFORMATION SHARING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR ELDERLY.
PLEASE DELAY ANY DECISION REGARDING SERVICE PROVIDER CONTRACTS IN OKLAHOMA BY AT LEAST 30 DAYS TO GIVE RESIDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY ENGAGE IN THE PUBLIC PROCESS AND UNDERSTAND THEIR OPTIONS.
MS. ANNA HOLMES SUBMITTED TWO CARDS AND LAST ONE READS, PLEASE HEAR ME.
ECHO IS NOT THE SAME CLASSIFICATION AS WASTE MANAGEMENT.
I HAVE A RENTAL HOME IN SPRING VALLEY AND ETHICAL ALONG WITH REPUBLIC SERVICE PROVIDE POOR SERVICE TO THAT REGION.
ALSO BOTH OF THE COMPANIES ARE MORE EXPENSIVE AND PROVIDE FEWER ACCOMMODATIONS FOR LARGE ITEM PICKUPS.
AS A RESULT, MORE UH, APPLIANCES AND FURNITURE, OUR PLACE IN THE STREETS AND OUR PUBLIC HEALTH PROBLEMS THROUGHOUT SPRING VALLEY.
I BELIEVE THE PUBLIC NEEDED MORE INFORMATION IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE IN DECISION MAKING PROCESS FOR SELECTING A SERVICE PROVIDER FOR ALCOHOL.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY IS TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND PARTICIPATION VIRTUALLY.
HOWEVER, THIS DECISION WILL IMPACT ALL RESIDENTS AND WE NEED MORE TIME TO HAVE MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION.
NOT ALL RESIDENTS HAVE ACCESS TO THE INTERNET OR KNOW HOW TO APPLY TECHNOLOGY TECHNOLOGY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
THIS METHOD IS UNFAIR TO THEM.
I ASKED THE CITY TO PLEASE NOT CHANGE FROM WASTE MANAGEMENT.
NEXT COMMENT IS FROM TIFFANY MCHUGH WHO SUBMITTED TWO CARDS.
I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN WITH THE DECISION TO RECOMMEND A DIFFERENT SERVICE PROVIDER WITHOUT MORE PUBLIC NOTICE AND ENGAGEMENT.
I APPRECIATE THE CITY'S EFFORT TO INCORPORATE VIRTUAL ENGAGEMENT TOOLS TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE.
HOWEVER, I WILL LEAVE THE DECISION TO CHOOSE SERVICE PROVIDERS TO BE MADE WITH MORE PUBLIC INPUT.
WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN MORE RESIDENTS SERVICE PROVIDER FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS.
A DECISION TO CHANGE THIS RELATIONSHIP SHOULD BE BETTER COMMUNICATED TO RESIDENTS SO THEY CAN ENGAGE IN THE PROCESS.
I BELIEVE WASTE MANAGEMENT IS THE BEST CHOICE FOR OKLAHOMA.
THEIR DRIVERS ALREADY KNOW OUR CITY, OUR STREETS, OUR CITY OPERATIONS AND ORDINANCES.
LET'S KEEP THINGS RUNNING SMOOTHLY.
I ASKED THE CITY TO DELAY THIS DECISION FOR AT LEAST 30 DAYS.
NEXT CARD WAS SUBMITTED FROM BY AUDREY ROSS WHO SUBMITTED THREE CARDS.
IT IS ALREADY VERY TOUGH FOR RESIDENTS TO FULLY ENGAGE IN THE PUBLIC PROCESS.
AMID THE MANY IMPACTS OF CODE IN 19 AND OUR LIVES AND ADEQUATE NOTICE AND INFORMATION SHARING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR ELDERLY.
PLEASE DELAY ANY DECISION REGARDING SERVICE PROVIDER CONTRACTS AND ALL THE HOME BY AT LEAST 30 DAYS TO GIVE RESIDENTS THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY ENGAGE THE PUBLIC PROCESS.
UM, NEXT IS FROM MICHAEL SMITH AND SUBMITTED TWO CARDS.
UH, THE PUBLIC NEEDED MORE INFORMATION IN ORDER TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS FOR SELECTING A SERVICE PROVIDER FOR OKLAHOMA.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY IS TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND PARTICIPATION VIRTUALLY.
HOWEVER, THIS DECISION WILL IMPACT ALL RESIDENTS AND WE NEED MORE TIME TO HAVE INFORMED OPINIONS ON THIS ISSUE.
I ASKED THE CITY TO PLEASE DELAY THIS DECISION.
MAKES A COMMENT IS FROM ANDREW SPEAR WHO SUBMITTED TWO CARDS ON BEHALF OF OUR COMMUNITY.
PLEASE CONSIDER ISSUING A 30 DAY CONTINUANCE OF ANY HEARING RELATED TO WASTE HAULING CONTRACTS SO THE COMMUNITY CAN FULLY ENGAGE IN THE PUBLIC PROCESS AND RESIDENTS AND THE COUNCIL AND HAVE TIME TO HEAR AND CONSIDER THE BEST OPTIONS POSSIBLE FOR THE CITY.
SPHERE HAS SUBMITTED THREE CARDS.
UM, I AM CONCERNED THAT THE HEARING ON WASTE HAULING SERVICES WAS SCHEDULED WITH TOO LITTLE TIME FOR RESIDENTS TO SINCERELY ENGAGE ON SUCH AN IMPORTANT DECISION AND WITH TOO LITTLE INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO DETERMINE THE BEST OPTIONS POSSIBLE FOR THE CITY.
PLEASE CONSIDER ISSUING A CONTINUANCE OF THIS HEARING AND GIVE RESIDENTS AT LEAST 30 DAYS AND MORE INFORMATION ON OUR OPTIONS SO WE CAN FULLY ENGAGE IN THE PUBLIC PROCESS AND ENSURE THE BEST DEAL POSSIBLE FOR THE CITY.
UM, WE HAVE ABOUT, I THINK ABOUT 18 MORE CARDS.
UH, THE NEXT ONE FROM LYNN SPICER WHO SUBMITTED TWO CARDS.
WASTE MANAGEMENT IS AN IMPORTANT COMMUNITY MEMBER WITH A 30 PLUS YEAR TRACK RECORD OF OUTSTANDING SERVICE AT TOTAL ALCOHOL.
WHILE WE UNDERSTAND CITY STAFF IS RECOMMENDING ECHO, WE STRONGLY URGE MORE INFORMATION BE PROVIDED ON THIS DECISION AND AS THAT WHEN WASTE MANAGEMENT BE GIVEN A FAIR OPPORTUNITY TO COMPETE, ONLY THEN CAN THE CITY ENSURE THE BEST DEAL POSSIBLE FOR RESIDENTS.
I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE CONSIDER CONTINUING A HEARING BY AT LEAST 30 DAYS TO AFFORD US THE OPPORTUNITY TO FULLY ENGAGE IN THE PUBLIC PROCESS.
AND THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS REQUEST.
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NEXT COMMON IS FROM NICHOLAS WAGNER WHO SUBMITTED THREE CARDS.I AM DISAPPOINTED AT THE DECISION TO RECOMMEND AN OUTSIDE COMPANY FOR OUR CITY WAS SUCH SHORT NOTICE.
I BELIEVE A DECISION LIKE THIS NEEDS MORE TIME AND INPUT FROM OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
I ENCOURAGE THE CITY TO DELAY ANY COUNCIL DECISION BY AT LEAST 30 DAYS AND ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THE OPTIONS AVAILABLE SO THAT WE CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE PUBLIC ART PROCESS AND MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD.
RUSHING DOES DECISION IS NOT WEISS.
I ALSO BELIEVE WASTE MANAGEMENT IS THE BEST OPTION FOR OUR CITY.
THE COMPANY IS DEEPLY INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY AND IS WELL CONNECTED WITH ORGANIZATIONS AND COMMUNITY GROUPS AND ALCOHOL.
THEY HAVE SHOWN THAT THEY ARE ALWAYS WILLING TO ROLL UP THEIR SLEEVES AND HELP OUT THEIR NEIGHBORS.
I STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU DELAYED THIS DECISION.
REVIEW ALL THE OPTIONS TO CHOOSE THE BEST DEAL FOR THE COMMUNITY.
CHRIS GEORGE AND MR JURORS SUBMITTED TWO CARDS.
WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS PARTNER THROUGHOUT THE YEARS WITH SIGNIFICANT PRESENCE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.
THEY HAVE SUPPORTED OUR MISSION AND HAVE PROVIDED OUTSTANDING SERVICE TO RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE 30 YEARS THEY HAVE BEEN AN ALCOHOL.
PLEASE ALLOW HIS MANAGEMENT TO CONTINUE SERVING OUR COMMUNITY AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
THE NEXT CARD IS FROM RACHEL MORANI.
WASTE MANAGEMENT IS THE BEST CHOICE FOR ALCOHOL.
THE COMPANY HAS BEEN A COMMUNITY PARTNER FOR OVER 30 YEARS.
THEIR LOCAL TEAM IS MINUTES AWAY AND HAS PROVEN TO PROVIDE PERSONABLE AND CUSTOMIZED ASSISTANCE.
I STRONGLY URGE YOU TO CHOOSE WASTE MANAGEMENT AS A CONTINUED SERVICE PROVIDER.
UH, I HAVE LIVED AT MY HOUSE AND ALCON SINCE 1979.
I AM EXTREMELY SATISFIED WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT.
THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN EXTREMELY RESPONSIBLE ANYTIME I HAVE CONTACTED THEM OVER THE YEARS.
BOTH THE SERVICE DELIVERED AND THE COMPANY IMAGE ARE HEAD AND SHOULDERS ABOVE THAT OF ANY OTHER COMPANY SEEKING THIS CONTRACT.
I FEEL THIS WOULD BE A REGRESSION OF SERVICES AND UNFORCED ERROR BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
IF YOU FOLLOW STAFF'S DIRECTION TO ENGAGE ANOTHER COMPANY, WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS A PROVEN TRACK RECORD OF PROVIDING EXCELLENT SERVICES TO OKLAHOMA RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES AND A LONG HISTORY SERVING AS A KEY COMMUNITY PARTNER FOR LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS.
I BELIEVE THEY ARE THE BEST OPTIONS TO SERVE OKLAHOMA AND I URGE YOU TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION BY ALLOWING THEM TO CONTINUE TO WORK IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THE NEXT CARD COMES FROM KATHY SEAMAN WHO SUBMITTED TWO CARDS.
UM, WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS A PROVEN TRACK RECORD PROVIDING EXCELLENT SERVICES TO THE ALCOHOL RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES AND A LONG HISTORY SERVING AS A KEY COMMUNITY PARTNER FOR LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS.
I BELIEVE THEY ARE THE BEST OPTION TO SERVE ALCOHOL AND I URGE YOU TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION BY ALLOWING THEM TO CONTINUE TO WORK IN OUR COMMUNITY.
NEXT CARD IS FROM, ACTUALLY THERE'S THERE'S NO NAME TO THIS CARD BUT IT SAYS, UM, FOR EXCELLENT COMMUNITY INVOLVED INVOLVEMENT IN GIVING BACK.
I WOULD SUGGEST KEEPING WASTE MANAGEMENT.
NEXT COMMON CARD IS ALSO FROM A NO NAME PERSON.
UM, FIRST IN ORDER TO POST A COMMENT, THE COMMON PERSON NEEDS TO DIG ON THE PUBLIC WEBSITE AND CLICK SIX TIMES AND OPEN A WORD DOCUMENT THAT NAVIGATES THE CITIZEN TO A LINK WITH A CRYPTIC DESIGNATION ON THE SUBJECT MATTER.
UM, AN EXAMPLE, A WORD, RFPS OR A 13 DASH 20 IS SUPPOSED TO MEAN THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO DISCUSS A CHANGE FROM WASTE MANAGEMENT TO EDCO.
I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT THIS IS VERY FAR FROM ALLOW EASE OF ACCESS, PUBLIC TO FULL PUBLIC COMMENT.
SOME WILL MAKE IT THROUGH THE ELDERLY ARE THE MOST EFFECTED? I BELIEVE.
WELL NOT CALIFORNIA HAS THE STATUE THAT REQUIRES PUBLIC BODIES TO ALLOW FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS AT MEETINGS.
UH, CALIFORNIA GOVERNMENT CODE FIVE FOUR NINE FIVE 4.3 A CALIFORNIA CITIZEN BROUGHT SUIT ALLEGING THAT THE STATE SUNSHINE LAWS OR OPEN MEETING LAWS REQUIRED PUBLIC COMMENTS AT EVERY MEETING OF A PUBLIC BODY, NOT JUST THE COMMON SECTION ON EACH AGENDA WITHOUT OPENING THE CITY UP FOR LAWSUIT.
I WOULD URGE THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER SHELVING SUCH AN IMPORTANT MATTER FOR AFTER THE PANDEMIC.
THIS WAS A REFLECTIONS OF THE PUBLIC AND THE CITIZENS MAY HEAR IT IN FULL.
YOU SHOULD CONSIDER PROVIDING A COMPANY THAT HAS STOOD BY OKLAHOMA FOR MORE THAN 40 YEARS.
A RESPECTFUL AND FULL COUNCIL MEETING.
SECOND AS A CITIZEN THAT VOLUNTEERS AND IS A BOARD MEMBER OF SEVERAL NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS.
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MY PERSON CONCERNED FOR THE GROUPS I PARTICIPATE IN SUCH AS CLASS-A CHAMBERS, SAME METAL AND SOPHIE'S ELKS LODGE, ROTARY RUN EAST COUNTY ECE, TLC WOMEN IN LEADERSHIP CRISIS, HOUSE LEADERSHIP, EAST COUNTY AND SALVATION ARMY.ALL WHOM BENEFIT BY HELPING FAMILIES BECAUSE OF THE OVER 40 YEARS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS SPENT JUST IN THE LAST 10 YEARS AND I'LL GO HOME.
THIS BENEFIT TO CHILDREN AND FAMILIES IS MORE WORTH MORE THAN THE 11 CENTS PER CITIZEN.
THAT IS A DIFFERENCE OF THIS CONTRACT.
THIRD, AND FINALLY, WASTE MANAGEMENT RUNS ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES AND CURRENT FACILITIES ALREADY ONLINE TO DEAL WITH THE NEW REGULATIONS FROM THE STATE.
THIS MAKES THEM WORTH A LARGER CONSIDERATION BECAUSE OKLAHOMA HAS REMAINED STEADFAST BY NOT SUPPORTING MONOPOLIES WITH EDCO AND MOST OF SAN DIEGO.
THE MONOPOLY IS OBVIOUS AND WE WOULD URGE THAT THE ALCOHOL HAD THE ACTIONS OF RONALD REAGAN WHEN HE CLASSIFIED THE PHONE MONOPOLY AND INTRODUCED COMPETITION.
THUS, WE HAVE CELL PHONES, WIRELESS SMART DEVICES.
COMPETITION PROVIDES THE BEST RESULTS.
NEXT A IS TO COMMENT FROM SOMEBODY WHO DIDN'T PROVIDE THEIR NAME.
UH, AS WORKERS OF WASTE MANAGEMENT, IT IS A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY.
AND THIS TIME MY FELLOW CO WORKERS AND I HAVE VOLUNTEERED WITH COUNTLESS COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, CHEERED AT ARE WONDERFUL PARADES AND TIRELESSLY SERVE OUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS.
WE TRULY FEEL AT HOME WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT AND ALCOHOL AND AND CARE ABOUT AS RESIDENTS BECAUSE THEY ARE ALSO OUR FRIENDS, FAMILY AND NEIGHBORS.
UNFORTUNATELY, IT HAS COME TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THE CITY WILL RECOMMEND LINGO OF WASTE MANAGEMENT.
YOU CAN IMAGINE OUR GUT FEELING AT LEARNING WASTE MANAGEMENT, MAYBE TRANSITION OUT OF THE COMMUNITY AND KNOWS AND LOVES.
OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS, MANY OF US HAVE BEEN ON THE FRONTLINES DURING THE COVERT 19 CRISIS, KEEPING OUR COMMUNITY CLEAN AND SAFE.
OUR SPIRITS HAVE BEEN LIFTED BY THE MANY NOTES, SIGNS AND LETTERS FROM OUR CUSTOMERS POSTED FROM WINDOWS WASTE CONTAINERS AND WRITTEN IN SIDEWALK CHALK.
IT'S BEEN UNBELIEVABLY HEARTENING TO SEE PEOPLE TAKING THE EXTRA TIME AND EFFORT TO FIND INNOVATIVE WAYS TO COMMUNICATE A MESSAGE TO OUR DRIVERS DESPITE CHALLENGES POSTED BY A WORLDWIDE PANDEMIC THAT CONTINUES TO AMAZE US AND REMIND US EVERY DAY THAT WE GOT INTO THIS BUSINESS TO ENGAGE WITH PEOPLE.
THESE GESTURES OF OUTREACH ALSO REMIND US HOW NOW MORE THAN EVER, IT'S IMPORTANT TO FIND WAYS TO REACH PEOPLE AND SHARE INFORMATION.
THE FACE OF QUARANTINE BARRIERS.
WE KNOW THAT THINGS ARE A LITTLE DIFFERENT RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU PLEASE CONSIDER THAT THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS WE'LL SERVE WHO ARE ALREADY FACING TREMENDOUS CHALLENGES WHILE IN QUARANTINE, ESPECIALLY THE ELDERLY.
IT IS TOUGH FOR CITIZENS TO FULLY ENGAGE IN THE PUBLIC PROCESS AND WITH SUCH AN ENORMOUS CONTRACT WITH MAJOR IMPLICATIONS FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
WE WOULD HOPE THAT WE COULD PRESENT OUR CASE IN FRONT OF THEM AS WELL.
WASTE MANAGEMENT DRIVERS KNOW OKLAHOMA.
IT'S STREETS, IT'S OPERATIONS AND ORDINANCES AND MOST IMPORTANTLY IT'S PEOPLE BETTER THAN ANYONE.
WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT NO ONE ELSE HAS COMMITTED TO PROVIDING PERSONAL AND COM CUSTOMIZED ASSISTANCE TO YOUR OR AS WE KNOW THEM, OUR FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS.
THAT IS WHY WE'RE HOPING YOU WILL PLEASE ISSUE A 30 DAY CONTINUANCE.
SO THE COMMUNITY WE SERVE AND ARE ABLE TO FULLY ENGAGE IN THE PUBLIC PROCESS AND THE RESIDENTS AND THE COUNCIL HAVE TIME TO HEAR HER AND CONSIDER THE BEST OPTIONS POSSIBLE FOR THE CITY.
AFTER ALL, WE CONSIDER HOME OUR HOME AND ARE COMMITTED TO DELIVERING THE BEST VALUE, NOT JUST AN OPERATIONAL SERVICE, BEEN COMMUNITY SERVICE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION AND IT'S ACTUALLY SIGNED FROM CARLOS FIGARO, A 32 YEAR EMPLOYEE JOINED BY 80 MORE OF HIS COLLEAGUES.
THE NEXT CARD IS FROM JOE MACKLEY MACKEY, I'M SORRY.
AND HE WROTE WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMMUNITY TREASURE FOR ALCOHOL AND THE SURROUNDING AREA AND THEY HAVE ALWAYS HELPED WITH ANY NONPROFIT CHARITABLE EVENT WHEN ASKED.
THEIR LEADERSHIP HAS SHOWN IN MANY WAYS WITH PRISTINE COSTA BEING THE PRESIDENT ELECT OF THE ROTARY CLUB, A, B O D SENTI AND NOW CHAIR ELECT FOR THE EAST COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
THEY HAVE ALWAYS DONE THEIR BEST TO SUPPORT LOCAL BUSINESSES WITH THEIR PURCHASES TO NOT CONTINUE WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT CONTRACT WOULD BE A SLAP IN THEIR FACE TO THEIR GENEROSITY AND COMMITMENT TO ALCOHOLICS.
IT WOULD BE A BAD PRECEDENT TO SET FOR OTHER LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT SERVICE THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA AND SO SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY AND PUBLIC SERVICE.
I AM A PROPERTY MANAGER IN OKLAHOMA AND OTHER AREAS, THE FEE CHARTS WITHIN THE CITY OF
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OKLAHOMA FOR THE SAME SERVICE IS ABOUT DOUBLE WHAT I CAN NEGOTIATE WITH AN OPEN MARKET OF SEVERAL TRASH COMPANIES.I URGE YOU TO ALLOW EACH OTHER TO CONTACT, PICKING UP ON THEIR OWN, THE CURRENT MONOPOLY COSTS, PROPERTY OWNERS MORE MONEY, WHICH IS PASSED ON TO TENANTS IN THE FORM OF HIGHER RENTS.
ANGELA, OR WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE SIR ABOUT ONE, TWO, THREE, ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT MORE COMMENTS.
DOES ANYBODY NEED A BREAK BEFORE OR SHOULD WE JUST PLOW THROUGH? THAT'D BE NICE.
ALL RIGHT, WELL WE'LL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND WE'LL COME BACK AND CONTINUE AT THAT POINT.
SO, UM, AGAIN WE HAVE EIGHT MORE CARDS AND THEN NEXT ONE IS FROM CHRIS JERKY WHO SUBMITTED THREE CARDS.
THE LAST ONE READS, PLEASE DELAY ANY DECISIONS AND ON WASTE HAULING SERVICES BY AT LEAST 30 DAYS.
SO THE PUBLIC HAS A CHANCE TO EXAMINE ITS OPTIONS AND REALLY ENGAGE IN THE PROCESS FOR SOMETHING IN THE BEST DEAL POSSIBLE FOR THE CITY.
I ASKED THAT THE CITY, PLEASE ALLOW THIS ADDITIONAL TIME TO HELP EDUCATE AND THOROUGHLY ENGAGED RESIDENTS ON THE PROCESS.
UNFORTUNATELY, THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE THROUGH A VIRTUAL HEARING, THAT FOLLOWER, SOME OF THE CITY'S EMAIL LISTS LEARN ABOUT ON FRIDAY EVENING AND THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS REMAIN UNAWARE OF, ESPECIALLY OUR, OUR ELDERLY AND VULNERABLE POPULATIONS STILL FACE FOUND US.
PLEASE CONSIDER GIVING US MORE TIME AND SUFFICIENT INFORMATION ON OUR OPTIONS SO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ENGAGE IN A PROPER PUBLIC PROCESS.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATIONS.
OH, SUBMITTED TWO CARDS PLEASE.
UH, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE SAME, THE VERY SAME COMMENT THAT WAS MADE FROM THE LAST GENTLEMEN.
UM, THE NEXT, THE NEXT COMMON IS FROM CHRIS DARCIE, WHICH HE HAD ALREADY SUBMITTED A CARD.
UH, THE NEXT ONE IS FROM CHAD BRAMWELL AND HE WRITES, MY NAME IS CHAD BRAMWELL AND I AM A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.
IN ADDITION, I OWN AND MANAGE APARTMENT BUILDINGS IN THE CITY OF ALCOHOLICS.
I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND EDCO TRUST SERVICE FOR THE NEXT CONTRACT WITH THE CITY.
WASTE MANAGEMENT IS THE MOST UNFAIR COMPANY TO DO BUSINESS WITH.
I HAVE HAD NOTHING BUT ISSUES WITH THEIR EXTRA FEES WITH EXTRA FEES THEY COLLECT.
UM, I HAVE BEEN HAPPY WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT SERVICES FOR THE 15 YEARS THAT THEY HAVE SERVICED MY RESIDENTS.
MY CONCERN WITH THIS PROPOSAL IS THAT THERE IS NO INDICATION THAT EDCO WILL NOT BE OFFERING CURBSIDE PICKUP OF LARGE ITEMS. FOR EXAMPLE, A COUCH FOR FREE.
THIS IS A SERVICE WASTE MANAGEMENT OFFERED IN THEIR SERVICES TWICE A YEAR.
ANOTHER SERVICE IS DUMPSTERS FOR RENT, FOR PROPERTY CLEANUP AT A REASONABLE RATE.
UM, THE NEXT CARD IS FROM CHRISTINE LAMARCA AND IT SAYS IN RESPONSE TO STEVE'S CONCERN, COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES KNOW THAT IN CONFORMITY WITH STATE LAW, WE KNEW THERE WOULD BE COST ASSOCIATED WITH COMPLYING WITH THOSE LAWS.
AS A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY SLASH MULTIFAMILY APARTMENT OPERATOR.
WHAT WE OBJECT TO IS THE NICKEL AND DIME CHARGES THAT WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS FELT FREE TO CHARGE FOR DECADES THAT MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE TO BUDGET INTO OUR RENTS.
THE SLIDE WITH THE CHARGES FOR ALL THE NONSTANDARD PICKUP WAS EVIDENCE OF EXACTLY WHAT I AM REFERRING TO WITH CHARGES.
WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS COMFORTABLE CHARGING THAT ECHO DOES NOT CHARGE.
I AM FIRMLY RECOMMENDING EDCO WHO BEEN A FABULOUS PROVIDER AT OUR PROPERTIES IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS IN AN IN LAMESA.
IT SAYS, IT SOUNDS LIKE ECHO DOES NOT HAVE A BIO WASTE FACILITY UNTIL 2021 AT BEST CASE SCENARIO AND WASTE MANAGEMENT ALREADY HAS ONE.
UM, THIS COMMENT IS FROM, UH, ROLANDO VALENZUELA.
WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN A DEDICATED PARTNER FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS.
PLEASE DELAY A COUNCIL HEARING ON THIS CONTRACT FOR AT LEAST 30 DAYS TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY MORE TIME TO UNDERSTAND ITS OPTIONS AND FULLY ENGAGED IN THE PUBLIC PROCESS.
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THE CITY CAN ENSURE THE BEST DEAL POSSIBLE FOR THE CITY AND OUR VOICES CAN BE HEARD.AND SIR, IN ADDITION TO THAT, I HAVE AT 31 CARDS THAT I TOLD YOU, UH, USE THOSE PEOPLE.
USE THAT TEMPLATE LETTER IF YOU NEED ME TO.
I CAN READ THE NAMES OR I CAN JUST READ YOU WHAT THE TEMPLATE LETTER SAID.
WHY DON'T YOU READ THE WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS A PROVEN 30 YEAR PLUS TRACK RECORD PROVIDING OUTSTANDING SERVICES TO THE EL CAHONE RISK STUDENTS AND BUSINESSES.
THE COMPANY IS LOCALLY INSPIRED AND IS AN ACTIVE PARTICIPANT IN COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE ALCOHOLIC, ROTARY, ALCOHOL AND VALLEY HOSTS, LION'S CLUB, EAST COUNTY BOYS AND GIRLS AND THE MOTHER GOOSE FREIGHT ORGANIZATION.
IN ADDITION TO COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, THE COMPANY IS A COMMITTED FINANCIAL PARTNER FOR ALCOHOL PRODUCING ABOUT 4 MILLION ANNUALLY FOR THE CITY AND LEASE AND FRANCHISE FEE REVENUE AND EMPLOYING MORE THAN 250 LOCAL EMPLOYEES, WASTE MANAGEMENT ITSELF FINANCIALLY COMMITTED TO SUPPORTING LOCAL ART PROGRAMS, PROVIDING $100,000 EACH YEAR TO THE MAGNOLIA PERFORMING ARTS CENTER OR THESE REASONS.
I URGE YOU TO SUPPORT WASTE MANAGEMENT AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
WELL COUNSEL, I THINK WE DON'T NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNCIL AND WE'LL OPEN TO WHOEVER LIGHTS START.
I WANT TO JUST MENTION ONE THING BEFORE WE GET INTO THOSE QUESTIONS THAT STEVE SOUTH, THE PRESIDENT, CEO OF EDCO IS ON THE LINE AND AVAILABLE IF WE NEED, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM AS WELL.
MR MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL STEAM SOUTH.
I'M THE PRESIDENT, CEO OF FAMILY OWNED AND OPERATED DECO.
UH, WE'RE HONORED TO BE APPEARING BEFORE YOU TODAY.
YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE THREE FINE COMPANIES AND PROPOSALS TO CONSIDER.
UH, AND UH, WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON OUR END.
I APPRECIATE YOU BEING THERE STEVE.
WELL, WE WILL GET BACK TO YOU.
ONE OF THE COUPLE OF COMMENTS TALKED ABOUT, UM, WELL ASK WHY WE DON'T HAVE EACH RESIDENT CHOOSE THEIR OWN TRASH HAULER AND I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE, MAYBE DIRK OR GRAHAM OR RICHARD, YOU'D WEIGH IN AND KIND OF GIVE SOME REASONS WITH REGARD TO ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I'LL, I'LL STEP IN AND ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
SO, UM, THERE'S A PARTS OF UNINCORPORATED SAN DIEGO COUNTY THAT OFFER THAT SERVICE.
BUT THE IDEA IS THAT THOSE ARE SOME MORE SPROUT NEIGHBORHOODS RIGHT NOW.
ANY TYPICAL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAS A FRANCHISE HOLLER HAS THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF TRUCKS COMING DOWN AT STREET.
ANY GIVEN DAY, THEY'LL HAVE IT'S TRASH TRUCK, IT'S RECYCLED TRUCK, AND THEN IT'S NOW IT'S ORGANIC STRUCK.
UM, IMAGINE IF YOU HAD THAT SAME SCENARIO, BUT WITH THREE DIFFERENT POTENTIAL HOLLERS OR MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE BECAUSE IT'S OPENED UP TO THE WHOLE MARKET.
YOU COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE THREE TIMES, HOWEVER MANY SERVICE PROVIDERS ARE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AT ANY GIVEN DAY.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF VALUE OR A CITY AS COMPACT IS A CITY OF EL CAHONE TO HAVE ONE FRANCHISE HOLLER.
THAT WAY WE CAN, WE CAN NEGOTIATE THE PRICE, UM, BUILDING A CPI.
SO, UM, EVEN THOUGH OUR RATES ARE READJUSTING RIGHT NOW AND WILL BE AMONG THE HIGHER OVER TIME, THAT'S NOT NEGOTIATED.
IT'S JUST THE CPI AND LOCKED IN, IN PERPETUITY OR AT LEAST FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
SO, UH, IT WILL END UP BEING A BETTER DEAL IN OUR MINDS, UM, IN THE LONG RUN FOR THEM, FOR THE PEOPLE OF ALCOHOL.
WELL, WHY ARE SOME OTHER HOLLERS BESIDES THE THREE IN THE BED, ABLE TO QUOTE LESS THEN WHAT WE SEE WITH A FRANCHISE.
ARE YOU, ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE COMPARISON TABLES? NO.
UH, COMPANY X IS NOT ONE OF THE THREE IN THE CURRENT RFP.
IT'S NOT ED, IT'S NOT A PUBLIC, IT'S NOT WASTE MANAGEMENT.
COMPANY X HAS COME IN AND SAID, UH, AND IT WAS REFERRED TO I THINK AT ONE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WE'RE GOING TO BID, UH, THIS MANY HUNDRED DOLLARS LESS THAN WHAT YOUR PROPOSAL IS.
HOW ARE THEY ABLE TO DO THAT? I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY CAN DO THAT.
RICHARD, DO YOU HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE IN THAT? YEAH, YEAH.
THAT'S WHAT THE COMMENT WAS ON WAS ON THE OPEN MARKET COMPETITION WHERE BASICALLY YOU HAVE A LICENSE TO COLLECT TRASH.
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THERE'S NO OTHER REQUIREMENTS ON IT.THEY DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE THE PUBLIC EDUCATION OUTREACH.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE RECYCLING.
AND I HAVE TO PROVIDE ORGANICS.
A LOT OF TIMES THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY A, YOU KNOW, ANY KIND OF A FRANCHISE FEE OR ADMIN FEE ON TOP OF THAT.
IT'S THE ONLY WAY THEY ACTUALLY DO IT CHEAPER.
SO WOULD WE SAY, UH, THAT MAY NOT BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CALIFORNIA ARE ALREADY VERY LIKELY TO BE NONCOMPLIANT.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WAS MADE MENTIONED THAT THEY WERE IN THE COUNTY AND THEY WERE UPSET.
THAT'S SOME OF THE OFFERINGS OUTSIDE OF A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT.
THEY DIDN'T GET FREE BULL PICK UP, THEY DIDN'T GET FREE.
UM, ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE FRANCHISES IN, NEGOTIATES FOR A CITY.
SO PEOPLE THAT WERE MAKING COMMENTS OUTSIDE OF A CITY IN THE COUNTY FOR EXAMPLE, AND THEY WERE SAYING THAT, UH, THEY DON'T GET THESE OTHER THINGS WHICH ARE NEGOTIATED AS PART AS A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT.
THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STEVE SOUTH.
UM, THE, ONE OF THE COMMENTS SAID, UH, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE BOOK.
WE GET FREE WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT FOUR TIMES A YEAR.
WHAT'S YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT? WELL, I THINK THAT STAFF AND THE CONSULTANTS CERTAINLY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB COUNCIL MEMBER IN CRAFTING THE PROPOSAL BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY IN THE AGREEMENT.
SO REGARDLESS OF WHO YOUR NEW PROVIDER IS, THERE ARE A BULKY ITEM COLLECTION REVISIONS FOR RESIDENTS THAT NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE.
OH, YOUR SERVICE WOULD BE COMPARABLE TO WHAT WE GET NOW.
IF NOT ENHANCED, UH, BY SOME ADDITIONAL, UH, CUBIC YARD REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE NOT IN THE CURRENT AGREEMENT.
CAN I, CAN I ADD ONE, ONE THING TO THAT, THE ONE THING THAT IS A NEW SERVICE THAT WAS ALSO ADDED INTO THIS CONTRACT IS YOUR MULTIFAMILY COMPLEXES WILL ALSO HAVE ACCESS TO BULKY WASTE COLLECTION.
THAT'S A NEW SERVICE FOR THEM.
CAN YOU DESCRIBE THAT MORE FOR US? SO YOU HAVE A MULTIFAMILY COMPLEX THAT HAS 10 UNITS.
THEY GET AN A, THEY GET A, AN ALLOCATED AMOUNT PER UNIT FOR BULKY WASTE.
THEY CALL UP, THE PROPERTY MANAGER CALLS UP, THEY SCHEDULE IT OUT.
EDCO PROVIDES THE BINS AND THEY, THEY DO THE BULKY WASTE COLLECTION FOR THE MULTIPLET FAMILY COMPLEX.
THAT'S NOT A SERVICE YOU HAVE NOW.
AND THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED RATE THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSAL.
MR GOOGLE, WE INCLUDED THEM IN THE RFP BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, YOU CAN JUST DRIVE AROUND OUR CITY AND THERE ARE SOME APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT TEND TO HAVE BULKY ITEMS LEFT RIGHT OUTSIDE THE APARTMENT LIMITS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE, THEY DON'T HAVE THAT LUXURY RIGHT NOW, THAT SERVICE NOW.
SO WE ADDED THAT AS PART OF THE RFP TO ENSURE THAT OUR STREETS ARE CLEANER.
HOW ABOUT THE BULKY WAY? UH, PICK UP IN THE ALLEYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
LIKE WE'VE HAD WITH WASTE DISPOSAL.
I IMAGINE THEY PICKED THEM UP FOR US, BUT UH, ABOUT WITH UH, EDCO THEY'LL DO THE SAME THING.
SO WE, WE HAVE A CONTRACT AS YOU KNOW, WITH ECE, TLC, WE'VE TALKED TO EDCO ABOUT ACCOMMODATING THEM AS WE'VE BEEN ACCOMMODATING, UM, AS WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN ACCOMMODATING.
ECLT ECE, TLC FOR THAT, THE FREE DROP-OFF FOR THOSE BULKY ITEMS THAT THEY PICK UP SO THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.
O E C T L C PICKS UP THE BULKY ITEMS NOW OR CORRECT.
WE HAVE THAT CONTRACT WITH THEM TO DO THAT IN ALLEYWAYS AND ON STRENGTHS.
WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR TRANSFER STATION? SO AS YOU KNOW, WE, WE JUST SIGNED A, UM, A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT FOR THE TRANSFER STATION.
UM, THAT'S UH, A LONGTERM AGREEMENT.
WE, UH, SUSPECT THAT WASTE MANAGEMENT WILL CONTINUE TO USE THAT SPACE.
UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR LONGTERM PLATE PLAY IS, BUT THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE PRESENTED BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, UH, OR THIS AFTERNOON, UM, INCLUDES A PROVISION WHERE, WAIT, UM, YET ED COHEN TAKE OVER THAT LEASE AGREEMENT WITH THE CURRENT TERMS OF THAT LEASE AGREEMENT.
IF IN THE EVENT WASTE MANAGEMENT SAID WE CAN'T OPERATE OUT OF THAT FACILITY ANYMORE BECAUSE OF WE'D LOST YOU AS A CUSTOMER, WE CAN MOVE EDCO INTO THAT FACILITY AND THEY WOULD RESUME ALL THOSE SAME RESPONSIBILITIES INCLUDING THE SPONSORSHIP OF THE MAGNOLIA AND THE, UM, REPAIRS TO COOGAN AND OTHER, UH, NOT COOGAN BOTTOM O'CONNOR AND THE OTHER TERMS OF THAT AGREEMENT, NO QUESTION GRANDMA.
THIS PROBABLY DOESN'T HAVE MUCH TO DO WITH OUR DECISION, BUT I AM WORRIED ABOUT IT.
WHAT HAPPENS TO IF WE CHANGE CARRIERS AND WALK THEM THROUGH LOSING THEIR JOBS? WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE PEOPLE? UM, I'VE NEVER PARTICIPATED IN A TRANSFER OF OPERATIONS TO THIS MAGNITUDE I DID IN A SMALLER COMMUNITY.
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THAT, UM, I, RICHARD MAY BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO KIND OF WHAT HAPPENS TYPICALLY.UM, I KNOW DIRK JUST KIND OF RAISED HIS HAND TOO.
I MEAN, TYPICALLY IT'S IN THE CONTRACT AND THE RFP THAT, UM, THE, THE SERVICE FOR THE NEW SERVICE FINDER, THE INCOMING SERVICE PROVIDER IS REQUIRED BY LAW TO OFFER EMPLOYMENT TO DISPLACED WORKERS AND THAT IS PART OF YOUR, YOUR, YOUR SERVICES THAT EDCO IS REQUIRED TO DO.
AND I THINK STEVE CAN ALSO ADDRESS THAT AS NECESSARY.
THE REALITY OF IT IS THERE AREN'T 15 DRIVERS FLOATING AROUND THAT LOOKING FOR JOB.
THE DRIVERS ARE HIGHLY EMPLOYABLE AND, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A JOB.
I WOULDN'T BE TOO WORRIED ABOUT THAT AT ALL.
THEY'LL, THEY'LL GET PICKED UP.
STEVE, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT? YEAH.
A MITCH MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I THINK THAT, UH, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, UH, THOSE ARE ESSENTIAL SERVICE PROVIDERS WHO HAVE PERFORMED ADMIRABLY, PARTICULARLY DURING COVET.
AND, UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO SET UP TOGETHER A ROBUST PROGRAM FOR THEM, THE OPPORTUNITY TO JOIN US IF THEY SO DESIRE.
OBVIOUSLY THEY MAY LIKE TO STAY WITH YOUR CURRENT EMPLOYER, BUT THAT'LL BE THEIR CHOICE.
THEY'LL HAVE A GREAT OPTION AVAILABLE TO THEM THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO, UH, WORK THROUGH, UH, IN A TIMELY PROFESSIONAL MANNER SO THAT, UH, THEY ARE NOT DISRUPTED OR DISPLACED KIND OF OFF OF THE DOLLARS AND CENTS.
UM, WASTE MANAGEMENT PROVIDED US A LOT OF SERVICES BESIDES JUST PICKING UP OUR TRASH.
THEY WERE HEAVILY INVOLVED IN A LOT OF OUR COMMUNITY EVENTS AND JUST INVOLVED WITH COMMUNITY IN GENERAL.
UM, I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT EDCO, ALTHOUGH I HAVE TALKED TO SEVERAL OF THE MAYORS FROM THE OTHER CITIES WHO HAVE SAID NOTHING BUT THAT I CAN.
WHAT'S YOUR PHILOSOPHY ON, ON THOSE KINDS OF THINGS? I'M GONNA THAT'S DIRECTED TO MR SOUTH.
MR MAYOR AS A A FAMILY OWNED AND OPERATED COMPANY, A LOCALLY BASED, WE'RE ACTIVELY COMMITTED TO THE COMPANY, UH, COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE.
UH, WE'RE VERY, VERY ENGAGED, WHETHER IT'S WITH CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE, BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBS, UH, ROSEMONT, HOSPITAL FOUNDATION, UH, JUST TO NAME A FEW WITHIN EAST COUNTY.
UM, I THINK THAT WHAT YOU'LL FIND WITH EDCO IS YOU'LL HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF COMMITMENT, UH, WITH, UH, DIRECT INVOLVEMENT FROM A VARIETY OF PEOPLE WITHIN OUR ORGANIZATION.
AND I THINK, AND I THINK WE PROVIDED ACTUALLY, UH, SURE, WE ALSO PROVIDED SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO THE CITY, VALIDATING SOME OF THOSE THINGS WITH, AGAIN, WHETHER IT'S A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE OR SERVING AS CHAIR OF VARIOUS CAPITAL CAMPAIGNS AND DEVELOPING PROJECTS.
SO I THINK THAT YOUR CURRENT PROVIDERS OBVIOUSLY DONE AN ADMIRABLE JOB AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THAT TRADITION AND NOT EXPANDING UPON IT.
COUNSEL MEMBERS FOR QUESTIONS.
I APPRECIATE MR SOUTH AND FOR ALL THE STAFF AND EVERYBODY OBVIOUSLY PUT A LOT OF WORK INTO IT TO OUR CONSULTANTS.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING A VERY COMPLICATED ISSUE AND MAKING IT AT LEAST MODERATELY UNDERSTANDABLE.
AND WE APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK YOU'VE PUT INTO THIS.
AND FROM HERE I THINK WE'LL LEAVE IT WITH THE CITY COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION AND DECISION.
I'LL JUMP IN, I'LL THROW THE, FIRST OF ALL, WE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ABOUT GETTING THE BEST DEAL FOR THE RATE PAYERS.
THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT WE'RE CHARGED TO DO FOR THE RESIDENTS AND FOR THE BUSINESSES.
AND THERE'S ABOUT, I THINK I TALLIED UP A LITTLE OVER 15,000 RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING ACCOUNTS AND A LITTLE OVER 2100 COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS.
UH, THE TIMING AND I, MY, MY, UH, ONE OF MY THOUGHTS COMING INTO THIS GAME WAS LET'S WAIT AND, AND GIVE PEOPLE SOME MORE TIME TO WEIGH IN.
BUT I'VE LEARNED NEW INFORMATION TODAY AND THAT IS THAT THIS RFP EXPIRES IN 32 DAYS.
SO THERE'S TWO FACTORS WITH THAT.
NUMBER ONE, WE MAY LOSE THESE, I'LL CALL IT LOCKED IN COSTS.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COST STRUCTURE WILL BE LIKE IN 32 DAYS AT A WHAT THESE COMPANIES BID MONTHS AGO.
THEY MAY CHANGE THEIR MIND AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS, THIS ACTUALLY IS GOING TO COST A LITTLE BIT MORE NOW AND WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOCK IN RATES.
I'M NOT HEARING THAT THE RATES ARE GONNA GO DOWN.
I ASKED THAT QUESTION AND OUR RICHARDSON TO ANSWER THAT TO MY SATISFACTION.
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FAIRNESS.YOU KNOW, THIS WAS A BLIND RFP FOR THE FIRST TIME IN DECADES REALLY, WHICH WAS GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE OF OKLAHOMA.
BUT IS IT FAIR TO LOSE THAT 32 DAY LOCK? AND IF WE GO OUT MORE THAN 32 DAYS AND WE HAVE TO GO TO RFP AGAIN, ALL THREE COMPANIES NOW KNOW WHAT THE OTHER IS BIG.
AND SO WHEN THEY HAVE TO REBID UNDER A NEW RFP, IS THAT FAIR? NOW THAT THEY KNOW EACH OTHER'S STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES? SO I THINK THERE'S SOME FAIRNESS IN THERE.
UH, THE, THE TIMING IS UNFORTUNATE, BUT THE 32 DAYS AWAY, UH, I DON'T THINK I CAN SAY WE SHOULD PUSH THIS OUT.
ANOTHER REASON TO PUSH IT OUT WOULD BE TO SAY, ALLOW THE PUBLIC MORE TIME TO PROVIDE INPUT.
WE HAD, I THINK ANGELA SAID OVER 90 CARDS, SEVERAL DUPLICATES.
I RECEIVED, UH, OVER 47 CONTINENTS.
UH, I THINK PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, I MENTIONED MY, MY, UH, POST OVER 5,000 PEOPLE ASKING THEM THE CHANCE TO WEIGH IN.
SO I THINK WE'VE GIVEN A FAIR SHOT TO THE PUBLIC.
WHAT I DO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC WAS TWO THINGS.
NUMBER ONE FROM THOSE WHO WERE PROPERTY OWNERS OR OWNERS OF MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS, THEY PREFERRED CO FROM RESIDENTS, THEY PREFERRED WASTE MANAGEMENT.
UH, AND MOST OF WHAT I HEARD WAS BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN A GREAT PARTNER AND I GOTTA TELL YOU, CHRISTINE COSTA REALLY IS AND KARA AND EXALTS AND PHIL SMITH AND SINCE TIRED, THEY ARE THE FACE AND VOICE OF WASTE MANAGEMENT IN OKLAHOMA.
SO ANYTHING GOOD IN WASTE MANAGEMENT REALLY HAS BEEN BECAUSE OF THE EFFORTS OF CHRISTINE, KAYLIN AND PHIL.
UH, SO I'M HOPING IF WE CHOOSE EDCO THERE'S A SPOT.
UH, ESPECIALLY FOR CHRISTINE, WE'VE HEARD WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN A GREAT PARTNER.
UH, THEY'VE BEEN A GREAT PARTNER.
I'VE HEARD FROM THE MAYOR THAT EDCO ALSO IS A GREAT PARTNER.
SO IF WE HAVE TWO COMPANIES, WASTE MANAGEMENT AND EDCO THAT ARE GREAT COMMUNITY PARTNERS, IT COMES DOWN TO THE DEAL FOR RESIDENTIAL RATES SEEM TO BE A WASH WITHIN 30 CENTS OF EACH OTHER GOING FORWARD.
BUT WE KNOW THAT BECAUSE ECHO IS GOING TO LOCK IN RATES AN ADDITIONAL SIX MONTHS BEYOND WASTE MANAGEMENT THAT SAVES PEOPLE ONE POINT $6 MILLION ACCORDING TO THE STAFF REPORT OVER THE LIFE OF THE CONTRACT.
HOW CAN I NOT LOCK THAT IN FOR PEOPLE? MY SECOND THOUGHT WAS ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE, FOR THE 2100 UH, COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS, THE PROPOSED RATES FOR THE COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS ARE A BLENDED EIGHT AWAITED, EIGHT AND A HALF PERCENT LOWER IN WASTE MANAGEMENT.
HOW COULD I SAY TO THE 2100 COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS, I DIDN'T GET THE BEST DEAL FOR YOU.
I DIDN'T CHOOSE THE LOWEST RATE.
IF BOTH COMPANIES ARE EQUAL, GOOD COMMUNITY PARTNERS.
UM, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT RIGHT NOW.
IT'S, UH, I SEE BOTH COMPANIES AS GREAT COMMUNITY PARTNERS.
THE RESIDENTS SEEM TO BE A WASH.
THERE SEEMS TO BE AN 8% LOWER RATE FOR COMMERCIAL.
I, I GOTTA LOOK FOR THE BEST DEAL.
ANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS LIKE TO SPEAK.
UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THE NUMBERS ARE POINTING TOWARDS EDCO AND AS COUNCIL MEMBER, GOOGLE SAID THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING IS LOOKING OUT FOR THE BEST DEAL FOR RESIDENTS AND I'LL BE THE FIRST TO SEEING WASTE MANAGEMENT'S PRAISES.
AND, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER GLOBAL ALREADY SAID IT.
I SIT ON THE BOARD FOR THE, UH, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WITH CHRISTINE AND SHE'S AN ACTIVE PARTNER AND SHE'S BEEN FANTASTIC.
AND EVEN BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL, WASTE MANAGEMENT WAS A GREAT COMMUNITY PARTNER WHEN WE WANTED TO DO OUR, UH, ALCOHOL CLEANUP GROUP WITH KATHY PELLMAN THAT THE COUNCIL RECOGNIZED IF WASTE MANAGEMENT WAS RIGHT THERE AND, AND, UM, IN SUPPORTING IN THE COMMUNITY'S EFFORT TO, TO PICK UP TRASH AND, AND NOT CHARGE, UH, TO DISPOSE OF IT.
AND SO I, I'VE EXPERIENCED WASTE MANAGEMENT'S GENEROSITY.
ALL THE, THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM OUR NONPROFITS, WHICH ARE THE BACKBONE OF ALCOHOL AND ECE, TLC, ST MADELEINE'S, LION'S CLUB, CASA ELYX, ROTARY CRISIS HOUSE, SALVATION ARMY, ALL HAVE RELATIONSHIPS, UM, WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT.
UM, SO I CALLED AROUND TO A HANDFUL OF ELECTED OFFICIALS.
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WITH REGARD TO USING EDCO AS THEIR SERVICE PROVIDER WASN'T JUST GREAT.THEY GO ABOVE AND BEYOND AND THEY EVEN MENTIONED MAYOR POWAY.
STEVE AUSTIN HAD MENTIONED SOMETHING SIMILAR TO, UH, WHAT WE DID KNOCK HOME.
THEIR RESIDENTS DIDN'T POWAY THEY ALMOST MIRRORED EXACTLY WHAT WE DID.
LITTLE MESA SAID, I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN A COMPLAINT FROM RESIDENTS OR COMMERCIAL, UH, THE ENTIRE TIME I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL.
SO, UM, TO, TO STEVE'S POINT, IT COMES DOWN TO WHAT'S THE BEST DEAL.
UM, AND, AND THAT SEEMS TO BE POINTED TO, TO, TO EDCO AND I THINK WE'D BE DOING A DISSERVICE IF ALL OF THE TIME AND ENERGY IN THE FINE TOOTH COMB THAT WE HIRED A CONSULTANT TO GO THROUGH AND DETERMINE THESE FACTORS OF WHICH IS THE BEST COMPANY AND OUR STAFF IS GOING THROUGH THAT FINE TOOTH COMB AND DOING THIS FRESH EVALUATION PROCESS.
UM, WE'D BE DOING A DISSERVICE IF, IF WE DIDN'T HOLD SOME WEIGHT TO THAT ECHO WHILE IT WAS CLOSE ONE OUT IN ALL FOUR CATEGORIES, THAT ALL FOUR OF THOSE METRICS THAT, THAT WERE FINE TO THE COM AND DIRT HAD A GREAT REPRESENTATION OR OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT SHOWING WHAT CONSULTANT WITH THE SUIT ON DIGGING THROUGH THE, THE WASTE IS THERE.
THEY'RE GETTING THEIR HANDS DIRTY IN IT.
AND, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO WEIGH THAT WITH A CERTAIN OPTION AND, UM, WE NEED A LEVEL OF UNDERSTANDING.
UM, AND, AND STEVE IS COMPLETELY RIGHT.
UH, CHRISTINE COSTA IS, IS A PILLAR IN THIS COMMUNITY AND, AND THAT GOES, GOT SOME BIG SHOES TO FILL IF THEY, IF WE DO END UP VOTING FOR THEM WITH ALL THESE, UH, UH, NONPROFITS THAT REALLY HOLD UP OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UM, THEM TREATED AS GOOD, IF NOT BETTER.
UM, BECAUSE I THINK EVERYONE ON THE COUNCIL HOLDS THEM VERY HIGH.
UM, WE HAVE GREAT PARTNERSHIPS WITH THEM.
UM, SO THAT, THAT, THAT'S, THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS.
I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT I'VE KNOWN ED BURR FOR ALMOST 50 YEARS.
UH, HE CAME TO, UM, SAN DIEGO AND THE LATE SIXTIES, AND I'VE KNOWN HIM EVER SINCE.
UM, HE OWNS EDCO, I BELIEVE, STILL.
AND, UH, I'VE KNOWN, UH, SEVERAL OF THE PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR THEM, UH, DIFFERENT ROTARY CLUBS AND, UH, UH, CHRISTINE IS A DIAMOND.
I HOPE THEY'LL HIRE HER TO GO TO WORK FOR EDCO BECAUSE SHE'S BEEN FANTASTIC AS EVERYBODY SAID.
UH, BUT I HAVE TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE CITIZENS ABOUT HOME IS THE BEST PRICE.
AND, UH, THE ONLY REASON I VOTED AGAINST THE OTHER ITEM WAS BECAUSE I WANTED THEM TO HAVE MORE TIME AS ALL OF THESE LETTERS HAVE STATED.
THEY, PEOPLE WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAD MORE TIME BEFORE WE MAKE THE DECISION.
BUT I WILL SUPPORT AT CO IN THIS SITUATION BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT, UH, THEY ARE THE BEST FOR THE CITIZENS OF ALCOHOL AND THE VALUE THAT THEY GET.
SO, AND I THINK BOTH COMPANIES ARE, UH, COMPARABLE IN THE THINGS THAT DO.
BUT I'VE KNOWN ED BERGER FOR ALMOST 60 YEARS AND, UH, HE'S A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE AND, UH, UH, I USED HIM AS OUR BUSINESS AND WILL MESA FOR MOST OF THOSE YEARS.
AND, UH, HE STILL SERVICES THAT PROPERTY OVER THERE.
AND, UM, HE'S A TREMENDOUS PERSON.
HE'S EVEN BEEN OUT TO OUR FACILITY, UH, YEARS AGO WHEN I HAD QUESTIONS AND HE'D COME OUT ORIGINALLY TO DO IT.
SO THEY'RE THE KIND OF COMPANY THAT IS GONNA REALLY DO A GOOD JOB.
THEY'LL GO HOME AND, UH, ALL I WANTED WAS MORE TIME FOR THIS DECISION, BUT I GUESS, UH, WE WEREN'T GOING TO DO THAT, BUT WE'LL SUPPORT GARY.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE NOTHING BUT PRAISE FOR CHRISTINE PASTA AND KELLY GONZALEZ.
THEY'VE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB HERE IN OKLAHOMA.
IT'S WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITIZENS OF ALCOHOL AND FOR THEIR POCKETBOOK.
AND OVER THE COURSE OF THE POST CONTRACT, WE WAITED, THE CITIZENS WOULD SAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IF WE'D GO TO EDCO.
AND SO I'M GOING TO SUPPORT EDCO
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WELL, I JUST WANT TO ECHO THAT CHRISTINE, KAYLEE AND PHIL HAVE EARNED MY RESPECT AND FRIENDSHIP AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE FOR THIS COMMUNITY IS, UH, SHOULD NOT BE FORGOTTEN.AND I APPRECIATE WHAT THEY'VE DONE.
WE'RE FACING HARD TIMES RIGHT NOW.
WE MAY LOSE $10 MILLION OVER THIS COPAYMENT CRISIS OR MORE.
CALPERS IS BUMPING UP OUR CONTRIBUTION RATES BY OVER $5 MILLION YEAR OVER YEAR.
UM, GOD KNOWS WHAT CHALLENGES WE ARE GOING TO BE SEEING IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
OUR RE OUR, OUR CITIZENS ARE GOING TO BE PAYING HIGHER ELECTRICITY BILLS AND HIGHER CABLE BILLS, HIGHER WATER BILLS, NOTHING IS GOING DOWN.
WE'VE GOT TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO PROTECT THEM.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
I THINK WE'RE ALL IN UNISON ABOUT THAT.
SO I'D LIKE SOMEBODY TO MAKE A MOTION THEN WE'LL GO ON THAT ONE FINAL COMMENT.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS GOING TO BE SUCH A JOLT TO THE COMMERCIAL ACCOUNTS.
THIS, THIS, UH, MONTHLY INCREASE AS OF JANUARY 1ST WE'VE GOT A REALLY COMMUNICATE TO THESE PEOPLE THAT THIS RENT INCREASE IS NOT BECAUSE WE'RE SWITCHING TO A NEW CARRIER.
WE CANNOT LET PEOPLE THINK, UH, THAT THE SWATCH AND COURIER IS, IS, IS NOT A GOOD THING FOR THEM.
SECONDLY, I THINK THE COUNCIL, UH, SHOULD ASK CITY STAFF TO LOOK AT THE IMPACT OF LOWERING THE FRANCHISE FEE, UH, IN A WAY THAT MAKES THE HIT FOR COMMERCIAL LOCATIONS NOT AS MUCH WE WERE AT, WE WERE SLIGHTLY ABOVE AVERAGE COMPARED TO OTHER CITIES.
UH, AND THEN AT THE END OF TWO YEARS, I THINK WE'RE ABOUT AVERAGE.
I THINK I'D LIKE TO SEE THE IMPACT OF LOWERING THE FRANCHISE FEE, SO AT LEAST WE'RE AVERAGE OR A LITTLE BELOW AVERAGE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT GESTURE TO OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY, UH, DURING SUCH A DIFFICULT TIME.
GOOD, GOOD COMMENTS OFF WHEN SOMEBODY LIKES TO MAKE A MOTION.
I'LL MOVE, UH, ADOPTION OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO HAVE ED COAT AS OUR WASTE HAULER.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
A SECOND MOTION ON THE APPROVAL OF THE SECOND HALF OF THIS.
WE ADOPTED ONE RESOLUTION THAT DOES BOTH THINGS.
SO EITHER CONFIRM THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU INTENDED WAS THE ONE RESOLUTION TO APPROVE BOTH STEPS OR GET A SEPARATE MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE AGREEMENT TO BE EXECUTED BY THE CITY MANAGER.
ALL SO MOVED FROM THE SECOND MOTION.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTES.
GENTLEMEN, ALL OF YOU INVOLVED.
UH, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK AND FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THIS, THIS EFFORT.
UM, ACTUALLY A BIG DAY FOR OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
MOVE TO THE ONE LAST, I'M SORRY.
THE LAST ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT.
ITEM 18 IS A SEWER BILLING UPDATE.
I'D LIKE TO ASK STAFF THAT INTRODUCED THIS ITEM.
MR MAYOR, WE STILL HAVE TWO LINES.
NUMBER 17 WOULD COME, UH, WE'D RECOMMEND WHEN MOVED TO NUMBER 17 RIGHT NOW.
[17. East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council adopts the next Resolution, in order, to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement; and That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement; and That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement; and That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement; and That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement; and That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement; and That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement; and That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement; and That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement; and That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement; and That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement; and That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement; and That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement; and That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement; and That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement. That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement; and That the City Council adopts the next Resolution in order to: Approve the East County Advanced Water Purification Wastewater Service Agreement (Agreement) among the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority (ECAWP JPA), the City of El Cajon, the Padre Dam Municipal Water District, and the San Diego County Sanitation District; and Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement]
THIS SECOND ADMINISTER REPORT, I HAVE SOME T'S REGARDING THE EAST COUNTY ADVANCEABLE WATER PURIFICATION, WASTEWATER SERVICES AGREEMENT AND STAFF.UH, UNFORTUNATELY FOR YOU IT'S MORE OF ME AND SO YOU GET TO HEAR ME A LITTLE BIT MORE AND UH, AND ON THE NEXT ITEM AS WELL.
BUT, UH, I WANT TO BRING THIS ITEM TO YOU BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING HARD AS STAFF AND AS A CITY TO WORK, UH, WITH OUR NEW JPA THAT WE FORMED,
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UH, THE LATTER END OF LAST YEAR, UH, TO BUILD THE EAST COUNTY ADVANCED WATER PURIFICATION JPA.AND JUST AS A REMINDER OF THAT, JPA, UM, WE ARE LOSING ALL OF OUR POWERPOINTS BUT THAT'S OKAY.
WE ARE IN, IN CONCERT WITH THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO SANITATION DISTRICT AND WE ARE PARTNER WITH PONDER DAM MUNICIPAL WATER AND WE ALSO ARE A PARTNER, UH, AS A, AS A, AS A MEMBER, A NONVOTING MEMBER OF THE JPA WITH HELIX WATER DISTRICT.
SO WE'RE VERY, VERY EXCITED TO BE PARTNERED WITH THEM AND VERY EXCITED FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY.
SO I'M ABLE TO GET THIS BACK UP HERE AND MOVE FORWARD.
THIS PROJECT WILL UTILIZE WASTEWATER OR SEWER WATER TREATED, PUT IT INTO LAKE JENNINGS AND PRODUCE 30% OF EAST COUNTY'S WATER SUPPLY.
THAT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT HERE.
AND, UH, JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY WHY WE'RE DOING THIS AND IT'S TO NOT ONLY HAVE A RELIABLE WATER SOURCE, BUT TO MOVE US FORWARD AND, AND HAVING CONTROL OVER THE EVER RISING COSTS THAT THE SAN DIEGO METRO SYSTEM HAS FOR US.
SO, UH, THIS IS, THIS IS GOOD NEWS ALL THE WAY AROUND AS THIS PROJECT MOVES FORWARD.
BUT TODAY WHAT WE'RE HERE TO DO IS TO TALK ABOUT THE WASTEWATER SERVICE AGREEMENT, WHICH IS THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN ALCOHOL AND THE JPA.
AND IT'S THE FRAMEWORK FOR HOW WE ARE GOING TO, UM, PAY FOR THE TRANSMISSION AND TREATMENT OF SEWER WATER INTO THE NEW, UH, PLANT.
SO JUST TO REMIND YOU OF BACK IN 2014, UH, THIS PROJECT STARTED, UH, WE HAD AN MOU DEVELOPING CONCEPTS AND A PLANNING STUDY AND THAT WAS BETWEEN HELIX PADRE DAM AND THE COUNTY AND US.
AND THEN IN 2016 WE DID ANOTHER MOU TO MOVE ON TO THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AND RECOMMENDATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE REGIONAL PROJECT.
WE FORMED IN 2019 THE JPA AND, AND NOW HERE WE ARE ASSIGNING AND WORKING THROUGH AGREEMENTS.
NOW THESE AGREEMENTS, THERE'S A WASTEWATER SERVICE AGREEMENT BETWEEN, UH, THE JPA AND EACH OF THE MEMBER AGENCIES, WHICH IS OKLAHOMA COUNTY SANITATION DISTRICT AND PADRE DAM.
AND THEN THERE'S A PRODUCT WATER PURCHASE AGREEMENT FROM OR BETWEEN THE JPA AND HE LOOKS WATER.
AND THEN THERE'S A RECYCLED WATER PURCHASE AGREEMENT, SUB AGREEMENT AND WATER PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN A HELIX WATER AND A AND PADRE DAM.
AND SUBSEQUENTLY THE RECYCLED WATER PURCHASE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE JPA AND PADRE DAM FOR THEIR RECYCLE WATER PURPLE PIPE SYSTEM.
SO, UH, WE'RE GETTING READY TO HAVE DESIGN CONTRACTS, UH, PACKAGE ONE, WHICH IS THE PLANT, THE MAIN, THE LARGEST PART OF THIS IS THE BIGGEST PART AND IT'S, IT'S, UH, OUT TO BID.
UH, WE'VE NARROWED IT DOWN TO THREE, UH, THREE BIDDERS AND THEY'RE WORKING ON THOSE RFP, UH, SUBMITTAL NOW.
AND THEN, UM, PART OF THIS IS THESE AGREEMENTS HAVE TO BE IN PLACE IN ORDER FOR US TO APPLY FOR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WORTH OF GRANTS AND LOW-INTEREST FUNDS.
AND SO THIS IS THE NEXT STEP THAT WE HAVE TO GET IN PLACE.
WE'RE IN LINE WITH THE, UH, WITH THE COUNTY AND PADRE DAM, TAKING IT TO THEIR RESPECTIVE BOARDS.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE, UH, A MEETING WHERE THE JPA BOARD WHERE, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER KENDRICK SERVES ON THAT BOARD AS, AS THE CHAIR.
SO WE'LL KEEP MOVING FORWARD WITH ALL OF THIS AND, UH, BRINGING US TO WHAT THIS WASTEWATER SERVICE AGREEMENT DOES AND IS, UH, LIKE I SAID, IT'S THREE SEPARATE AGREEMENTS AND IT'S A 30 YEAR TERM.
AND WHAT THIS DOES IS IT ALLOWS US TO, IT'S FOR THOSE WHO CONTRIBUTE TO THE PROJECT, CONTRIBUTE WASTEWATER AND ESTABLISHED THE PRICING METHODOLOGY, THE FRAMEWORK, IF YOU WILL, FOR ALL OF THIS.
SO, UH, V VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
WE'VE, WE'VE HAD OUR, UH, SEVERAL, UH, ATTORNEYS.
OUR CITY ATTORNEY HAS REVIEWED IT.
IT IS A, IT IS A GOOD DEAL FOR THE CITY AND ALLOWS US TO NEGOTIATE MOVING FORWARD THE EXACT PRICING AND HOW WE WILL GET THERE.
BUT THERE'S STILL OFF-RAMPS FOR THE PROJECT AT THE GMP, UH, THE, THE, THE GUARANTEED PRICE PHASE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT BINDING OURSELVES TO ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO LOCK US IN, BUT ALL THINGS ARE MOVING
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IN A POSITIVE DIRECTION AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.AND FOR THAT REASON, THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THIS AGREEMENT AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE IT.
AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
AND ALSO KYLE SWANSON WITH A PADRE DAM IS ON THE LINE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM, HE IS ABLE TO ANSWER ANY OF THOSE.
ISN'T A MASSIVE PART OF THIS AGREEMENT.
THEY ARE NOT, THEY'RE NOT PART OF THE JPA BECAUSE HE LOOKED, THEY'RE SERVED BY HELIX WATER AND ALL OF LAMESA SEWAGE ACTUALLY GOES DOWN THROUGH ALVARADO CREEK OR DOWN DOWN THAT DIRECTION.
UH, IT DOESN'T FLOW TOWARDS, UH, MISSION GORGE.
SO IT'S JUST US AND A POTTERY DAM AND THE, AND A PORTION OF THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO.
HEY, UH, COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? SO I JUST HAVE A COMMENT AND THAT'S, UH, AND THE NEXT DRAFT, WHICH CERTAINLY WILL BE COMING AT SOME POINT.
WE'RE GOING TO BE GLAD THAT WE GET 30% OF OUR WATER FROM LOCAL SOURCES BECAUSE THE WORST THING THAT CAN HAPPEN AS A CITY AND YOU TURN ON THE TAP AND NOTHING COMES OUT BUT DUST AND THAT'S ALL.
SO WE COULD SAVE OUR BUSINESS AND INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURERS.
IF WE HAVE AN EARTHQUAKE, YOU KNOW, WE AT LEAST WE HAVE A CERTAIN SUPPLY OF WATER.
WELL, AND ALSO WE HAVE A CERTAIN SUPPLY AT A RATE THAT WE SOMEWHAT HAVE CONTROL OVER OTHERWISE.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE TOWARDS RATES TO THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO, WHICH ARE PART OF THEIR PURE WATER PROGRAM.
COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE LOCUS PROBLEM.
OKAY, I GOT, I GOT ONE MORE QUESTION.
UM, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO RECYCLE FROM THIS JURY.
UH, WHAT DETERMINES THAT? I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S MORE THAN 30% OF THE SEWERAGE IS ACTUALLY, THAT'S 30% OF OUR WATER NEEDS AND HE'S COUNTY WILL BE SUPPLIED BY THE CONVERTED SEWAGE.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY, WE'RE, WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT OVER 95% CONVERSION RATE OF SEWERAGE INTO DRINKABLE WATER.
IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE THAT ONLY 30% WOULD BE.
UM, DEREK IS, IS IT MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CURRENT FACILITY THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, IS IT BUILT TO CAPACITY? IS THERE ANY MORE ROOM IN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND IN THE GEOGRAPHY TO HAVE IT BE BIGGER IN THE FUTURE OR, UM, I HAVE, WE REACHED OUR LIMIT WITH REGARD TO CAPACITY.
UM, SO THE WAY THAT WE'VE DESIGNED THIS FACILITY AND, AND I GOT TO HANDLE THE PADRE DAM, THEY PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO THIS, BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE PROJECTED OUT TO OUR 20, 50 PROJECTED, UH, UH, FLOWS.
AND SO WE BUILT IT TO BE SIZED TO HANDLE THOSE FLOWS IN THE YEAR 20, 50.
AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CITY WHERE WE, WHERE WE CAN BUILD UP, BUILD OUT AND SAME WITH THE COUNTY AND WITH PADRE DAM, WHICH SERVICES, UH, PARTS OF THE COUNTY AND SANTI.
UM, WHAT WE'RE LIMITED BY IS THE CAPACITY AT LAKE JENNINGS, UH, UNDER PERMIT.
WE CAN ONLY GO UP TO A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND I BELIEVE THAT 16,000 ACRE FEET PER YEAR.
AND SO, UH, OR JUST A LITTLE BIT UNDER THAT, THAT, AND SO ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT, UH, HE LOOKS WATER WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TAKE FROM US.
SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD INTO THIS PROCESS, UH, THE LAND IS THERE TO EXPAND.
UH, WE DEFINITELY LEFT ROOM IN THE DESIGN OR WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE ROOM AND DESIGN TO EXPAND THE PLANT IF WE NEED TO.
BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO EXPLORE OTHER QUOTE UNQUOTE BUYERS OF THE WATER.
UM, MAYBE THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO OUT TO CAP RESERVOIR OR, UM, SOME OTHER TYPES OF USES FOR THAT WATER.
BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS AND IT'S DEFINITELY BY NO MEANS THIS IS, THIS IS LIKE THE GATE BY WHICH WE ENTER.
RIGHT? AND SO IT'S, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP WORKING ON THIS, BUT UH, WE'VE DEFINITELY LOOKED OUT AND SIZE THIS THING.
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TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO IT'S JUST UP TO A DISCUSSION AND OR A MOTION.WELL, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT THING.
UM, IN A DISCUSSION
[18. Sewer Billing Update; Consideration of Options RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council considers the method by which to bill El Cajon sewer customers and adopts the corresponding Resolution.]
MINISTRY REPORT IS A SEWER.BILLY UPDATE AND OUR LAST ITEM, HOPEFULLY IT'S DIRT.
UH, MAYOR, I'M CERTAINLY EXCITED TO TAKE UP SO MUCH OF YOUR TIME HERE.
UM, BUT IT IS TRULY AN HONOR AND A PLEASURE.
AND AS I PULL UP THE SLIDE HERE, UM, WE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING HARD ON THIS AND AS YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT HASN'T BEEN THE EASIEST THING IN THE WORLD.
UM, WE ARE CERTAINLY, UH, TRYING HARD TO FIND OUT HOW WE CAN BILL OUR CUSTOMERS, OUR SEWER CUSTOMERS AND, AND SO, UH, THIS ALL STARTED BACK WHEN WE, THEY'RE FROZEN.
SO THAT WAS, UM, HOW DO WE FIGURE OUT IN THE SHORT TERM AND HOW TO HANDLE THIS.
UH, WE SIGNED, YOU GUYS AUTHORIZED THE, THE CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZED SOME SHORT TERM AGREEMENTS TO GET US THROUGH JUNE 30TH OF THIS YEAR.
IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN TAKING A LOT OF IN HOUSE STAFF TIME, TAKING THEM AWAY FROM OTHER ITEMS THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN WORKING ON OR NORMALLY WOULD BE WORKING ON.
UM, I TO THANK, UH, YASMIN ADRIANO, OUR DEPUTY, UH, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, UH, JEFF MANCHESTER, UH, BLAKE BERENGER AND MONICA MARTINEZ.
AND WE HAVE SOME, UH, CUSTOMER SERVICE, UH, PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN FILLING IN AND HELP US OUT.
UH, KAREN VIGIL AND HOPE GOLD.
THEY'VE BEEN REALLY DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB.
REALLY, WE COULDN'T DO WITHOUT THESE PEOPLE.
W WE, WE WOULDN'T BE GETTING BILLS OUT RIGHT NOW.
AND THE STAFF HAS JUST BEEN AMAZING.
THEY SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS, UH, PUTTING THIS TOGETHER AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BEST SOLUTION IS.
UM, WE CAME IN IN JANUARY AND THAT'S WHEN THE CITY COUNCIL, IF YOU RECALL, ASKED US TO BRING BACK THE TAX ROLL OPTION.
AND, UH, WE DID THAT IN MARCH AND WE PRESENTED THAT ALONG WITH THREE OTHER OPTIONS OR TWO OTHER OPTIONS.
UM, AT THAT MEETING, NONE WERE SELECTED.
UH, WE, WE WALKED AWAY FROM THERE, UH, NOT SELECTING THE TAX ROLL OPTION THAT WE WERE ASKED TO BRING BACK.
AND SO WE IMMEDIATELY WENT OUT TO BID AND WE WENT OUT TO BID TO GET A FULL CONSULTANT COST.
WE NEEDED TO SEE WHAT THE MARKET WAS.
AND SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE, UM, WE WENT OUT TO BID AND VERY QUICKLY OPENED UP, WE GOT SEVEN RESPONSES, SURPRISINGLY, UH, CONSIDERING YEARS BEFORE WHEN WE WENT OUT TO BID ON A SIMILAR THING.
SO WE HAD OPTIONS AND, AND THAT WAS REALLY, REALLY GOOD.
UM, WE REVIEWED THOSE OPTIONS, NARROWED IT DOWN TO THE TOP THREE, UM, BEST OPTIONS THAT WERE GOING TO BE FOR US.
AND, UH, WE ULTIMATELY LANDED ON THE BEST VALUE FOR THE CITY FOR THAT OPTION.
SO THE FULLY CONTRACT SERVICE, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO GET A PRICE ON THAT.
UH, IT ENDED UP COMING IN A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN, THAN WHAT WE ORIGINALLY HAD ANTICIPATED.
AND, UM, SO NOW HERE WE ARE IN MAY, WE HAVE THE RFP RESULTS.
UH, WE HAVE THE IMPACT OF THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND WE'RE HERE TODAY.
IT'S A SELECT A LONGTERM BILLING OPTION.
SO THE WAY THAT WE'VE SET THIS UP IS WE HAVE, UH, FOUR OPTIONS, UM, YOU, YOU'LL VOTE ON ALL OF THEM OR, OR ONE OF THEM AND SELECT ONE AND ONLY ONE.
UM, SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GO THROUGH THIS.
AND I FIGURED IT WAS EASIEST TO JUST DISPLAY EVERYTHING IN A TABLE SO THAT YOU CAN SEE IT ALL ON THE SCREEN AT ONCE AND TO SEE THE IMPACTS OF
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THESE.UM, AND SO I'M GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THIS.
SO ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE WE'VE GOT THE FOUR OPTIONS AND THEY ARE THE FULLY CONTRACTED SERVICE, THE IN HOUSE SERVICE THAT WE BROUGHT TO YOU BEFORE.
AND THEN WE DISCOVERED SOMETHING INTERESTING.
THIS HYBRID OPTION WAS MINIMIZING THE AMOUNT OF STAFF THAT WE NEEDED TO, TO, UH, TO HIRE.
BUT WE REALIZED THAT AS WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS ON THE SHORT TERM THAT HAVING SOME INHOUSE, UM, STAFF TO HANDLE THE CUSTOMER SERVICE SIDE OF THINGS WAS NOT ONLY COST-EFFECTIVE, BUT IT WAS ALSO AMAZINGLY BETTER FOR OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE.
OUR CUSTOMERS COMPLAINED TO NO END ABOUT FATHOMS CUSTOMER SERVICE.
WE WOULD ALWAYS END UP GETTING THEIR CALLS AFTER THEY HAD TRIED TO SERVE THEM AS CUSTOMERS.
AND SO IT JUST WASTED A LOT OF STAFF TIME.
SO WE FOUND OUT THAT CUSTOMERS ARE MUCH MORE HAPPY WITH TALKING TO SOMEBODY IN, IN OUR OFFICE AND THAT KNOWS WHAT THE HECK'S GOING ON.
SO THIS HYBRID OPTION MARRIES THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS AT CONTRACTS OUT AT DIVERSIFIES OUR PORTFOLIO AND PUT SOME OPTIONS OUT THERE INTO THE CONTRACT WORLD, BUT IT ALSO, UM, HAS SOME IN HOUSE OPTIONS AND IT ENDS UP BEING A LITTLE BIT LESS EXPENSIVE.
UM, LASTLY, UH, W WE, WE ARE STILL PRESENTING THE TAX RULE OPTION AS AN OPTION, ESPECIALLY TODAY BECAUSE IT DOES OFFER SOME SAVINGS TO THE ALREADY APPROVED RATES.
SO, UM, COUNCIL HAS ALREADY APPROVED RATES FOR THIS YEAR, A RATE INCREASE OF 11%.
AND SO ANYTHING THAT WE DO WILL IMPACT THAT.
UM, WE HAVE A $600,000 LINE ITEM IN OUR BUDGET THAT WE USED FOR FATHOMS COSTS NOW THAT, THAT, THAT DOLLAR FIGURE CHANGES.
SO ON THE FULLY CONTRACTED SERVICE, UH, AFTER WE WENT THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS, MEINL USA, UH, WAS THE BEST VALUE.
AND, UM, AND, AND THEIR COSTS ARE, UH, THE, THEIR COSTS PLUS THE COSTS THAT WE'VE ESTIMATED TO BE THE COST THAT, UM, THAT ARE FOR PAYMENT PROCESSING, UM, CREDIT CARD FEES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WHICH, UH, WE, WE'VE ANTICIPATED IN OUR RATE STUDY.
SO OUR RATES ALREADY INCLUDE THESE RATES FOR PROCESSING, BUT WE'RE ALSO CHARGED THOSE RATES.
SO WE HAVE TO INCLUDE THAT AS A TOTAL COST JUST AS THE IN HOUSE OR THE HYBRID OPTION.
WE WOULD ALSO HAVE, UH, RATES THAT ARE CHARGED TO US FOR CREDIT CARD FEES.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE, IT'S AN APPLE TO APPLE COMPARISON.
WE HAD TO INCLUDE IT IN ALL OF THEM SO THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD SEE THE TOTAL COST OF DOING BUSINESS.
UH, THE 1,056,000, UM, INCLUDES ALL OF THAT, WHICH IS $456,000 MORE THAN WHAT WE HAD BUDGETED OR WE WOULD NEED TO RAISE THE ALREADY APPROVED, UM, RE WE WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, INCREASING THE APPROVED RATE BY 2.1%.
UM, AND TO DO THAT, WE WOULD SET A PROP TWO 18 HEARING NOTICE AND MAIL OUT NOTICES.
UM, THAT WOULD BE PART AND THAT THERE'S A RESOLUTION THAT HAS ALL OF THOSE ACTIONS REQUIRED FOR THAT, UH, AS PART OF YOUR PACKAGE.
SO THERE'S ONE RESOLUTION THERE OR THE IN HOUSE OPTION, WHICH WOULD INCREASE, UH, THE AGREEMENT WITH ADVANCED UTILITY FOR THE, UH, SOFTWARE TO RUN THE BILLING PROCESS.
BUT THEN WE WOULD INCREASE OUR PERSONNEL TO HANDLE PRINTING, MAILING ENVELOPES, FOLDING PAPER, UH, MAILING OUT THESE THINGS ON A REGULAR BASIS.
SET OF PROP TWO, 18, UM, HEARING NOTICE, UH, FOR THE 1.8% THAT THAT WOULD CAUSE OR 350, 3000 OVER THE 600,000 THAT WE HAD BUDGETED.
UH, THE HYBRID OPTION, LIKE WE SAID, UM, THERE WOULD BE A SLIGHT INCREASE IN OUR PERSONNEL.
UH, WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF EXISTING, UH, EXISTING PERSONNEL OR EXISTING POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE THAT WE COULD TRANSFER AND UTILIZE.
UM, BUT WE ALSO INVOLVED, UH, SIGNING AGREEMENTS WITH, UH, U S AND
AND LASTLY, UM, THE, THE COST OF DOING THE TAX ROLL OPTION IS $225,000.
LAST TIME WE CAME TO YOU AS A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT IN OUR DIGGING, WE WERE ABLE TO FIND EVEN MORE SAVINGS HERE JUST AS WE WERE IN THE OTHER ONES.
LIKE I SAID, WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, FIND SOME PERSONNEL THAT WE COULD REALLOCATE FOR THE, UH, FOR THE CUSTOMER SUPPORT AND CUSTOMER SERVICE SIDE OF THINGS.
SO, UH, GUESS WHAT, THIS IS $374,000 LESS THAN OUR BUDGETED, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY EQUAL.
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COULD REDUCE THE ALREADY APPROVED RATES BY 2%.AND THIS COMES DOWN TO DOLLARS, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY IN THE SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN.
WE'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT BY THE CITIZENS AND, AND IT COMES DOWN TO THE FEES AND WHAT'S CHARGED TO THEM.
UM, I GAVE YOU A RESIDENTIAL AVERAGE RESIDENTIAL EXAMPLE.
THIS WOULD LOWER THE ANNUAL COST BY $13.
UM, BUT WHERE IT REALLY KIND OF HITS HOME IS IN THE RESTAURANT.
WE DID OUR TYPICAL RESTAURANTS HERE AND IT WOULD LOWER THE COST ON A TYPICAL RESTAURANT.
AND WE LOOKED AT KIND OF, I THINK IT WAS A SLICE OF 61 DIFFERENT RESTAURANTS FROM TACO SHOPS TO FAST FOOD TO UM, YOU KNOW, IN AND OUT AND THEN APPLEBEE'S AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT RESTAURANTS THROUGHOUT THE, THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
AND IT WOULD BE A ABOUT A $200 A YEAR DECREASE IN THEIR, IN THEIR, UH, TO THE PROPOSED RATES.
SO, UH, THIS WOULD AUTHORIZE THE AGREEMENT, UH, FOR SULA SEWER BILLING, UM, TO GO ON THE TAX ROLL AND THEN, UM, THE SUPPORT, UH,
SO, UM, THOSE ARE THE OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE.
BEFORE YOU, I WANT TO TALK TO YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE IMPLEMENTATION.
UH, THIS IS THE SAME SCHEDULE HERE, BUT UH, I TALK ABOUT THIS BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT DECISION WE MAKE, IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE SOME IMPLEMENTATION.
I'M A CONSULTANT TO GO WITH THE NEW SOFTWARE TO TRANSITION.
WE ESTIMATE THAT TO BE ABOUT 18 MONTHS.
AND, AND I WAS PUSHING MY STAFF, THEY'RE SAYING IT COULD BE UP TO 24 MONTHS AND I'M SAYING WE NEED TO BE REALISTIC ON THIS.
AND SO IT COULD BE QUITE A HAUL.
THEY'RE JUST TRANSITIONING, GET HER EVERYTHING OVER.
OUR LAST EXPERIENCE WAS A BAD ONE.
SO WE'RE SNAKE BITTEN ON A KIND OF LAST TRANSITION TO A NEW SOFTWARE A FEW YEARS BACK.
AND THEN, UM, THE IN HOUSE OPTION, WE WOULD NEED TO HIRE SO MANY MORE PERSONNEL, WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT SIX MONTHS OUT.
THE HYBRID AND THE TAX ROLL OPTION, THE TRANSITION WOULD BE ALMOST IMMEDIATELY BUT A UP TO THREE MONTHS A TRANSITION THERE, WHICH WOULD GET US OFF TO A GREAT START, WHICH, UH, THE COUNTY REQUIRES US TO SUBMIT ALL THE DOCUMENTATION AND THE TABLES, UM, AT ABOUT THAT THREE MONTH MARK.
SO IT GIVES US ENOUGH TIME TO PROCESS AND GET THIS GOING.
SO, WITH THAT BEING SAID, UH, IT BRINGS US TO OUR RECOMMENDATION AND OUR RESOLUTIONS.
UM, HERE IS HERE ARE THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS PLACE BEFORE YOU AND AS YOU CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE MIGHT BE, YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR LATER, UM, POTENTIALLY THAT THE COSTS FOR THE FULLY CONTRACTED OPTION, UH, MIGHT BE OVERINFLATED BECAUSE OF THE CREDIT CARD FEES.
BUT, UM, ONE THING TO THAT IS WE HAD TO TAKE A STAB IN THE DARK AT THIS.
UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT THAT, UM, DARK, UH, WE HAVE SOME GOOD DATA THAT HELPS US TO REALLY LOOK AT THIS.
AND SO WE WERE CONSERVATIVE, BUT EVEN IF WE WERE TO DROP THAT BY A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO BE LIKE IF WE WERE TRYING TO GET IT RIGHT ON THE NOSE, UM, WE'RE STILL IN THAT, UH, $950,000 RANGE, UH, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO, UM, THE IN HOUSE OPTION AND THEN THE HYBRID OPTION OBVIOUSLY BEING, UH, LESS EXPENSIVE THERE.
UM, AND THEN THE TAX ROLL OPTION BEING THE LEAST AND THE ONE THAT PROVIDES BENEFIT.
SO THEY'RE ALL THERE FOR YOU TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER.
AND, UM, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS THERE? WELL, YOU KNOW, WE, UM, WE DECIDED ON THE, UH, TAX DOLLAR FOR THE LEAST EXPENSIVE PUFF.
THIS IS ANOTHER CASE OF THAT HAVING THE, THE GALL TO GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE TAX ROLL OPTION, WHICH IS A LOT LOWER COST FOR TAXPAYERS AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ELECTED TO DO, SAVE THEM MONEY AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
SO, UH, I DIDN'T KNOW YOU VOTED SOME OF YOU THE OTHER WAY LAST TIME, BUT I, HERE'S THE CHANCE THAT YOU CAN REDEEM YOURSELF AND VOTE FOR THE BEST OPTION FOR THE TAXPAYERS.
AND, UH, I THINK YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
SO, UM, I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE TAX OPTION AGAIN.
YOU KNOW, BOB, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU.
I, UM, I HAD CONCERNS ABOUT IT BEFORE, BUT I'M LEANING MORE TOWARDS IT NOW BECAUSE OF THE SITUATION WE'RE IN.
DESPERATE TIMES, DESPERATE MEASURES.
I, I'M OPEN TO CONSIDER YET TO HEAR WHAT THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THINKING.
COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT HAS THE MONTHLY COSTS OR I'M SORRY, THE UH,
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TO CONFIRM THOSE ARE ANNUAL COST CHANGES, CORRECT? YES SIR.THE TYPICAL RESIDENT, IF WE CHOOSE THE LEAST, UM, MONTHLY OR I SHOULD SAY BY MONTHLY SOLUTION, IT'S GOING TO COST $7 AND 20 CENTS A YEAR MORE THAN WE'RE PAYING THAT.
THAT'S A $20 SWING FOR THE WHOLE YEAR.
WHETHER WE PUT HER ON A TAX ROLL OR WHETHER OUTSOURCE IT OR NOT PUT OUT.
AND AS WE DISCUSSED IN THE LAST MEETING, THE CONCERN IS IF YOU PUT IT ON THE TAX ROLL, PEOPLE WHO LIVE PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK, REGARDLESS OF YOUR INCOME LEVEL, THAT'S A VERY DIFFICULT ASK.
AND I GUESS THAT'S KIND OF REALLY WHAT I'M STILL THINKING IS, UH, ROY, WHEN HE LIVE PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU GET HIT WITH A PROPERTY TAX BILL TWICE A YEAR THAT'S GOT THE EXTRA SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS ON IT.
AND IN SEWER BILLING, UH, ARE WE MISSING? UH, ARE WE MISSING SOMETHING TO SAY, MAN, WE'RE, WE'RE PUTTING THEM IN A BAD SPOT.
THEY'LL HAVE TIME TO PLAN FOR IT SO WE CAN LET THEM KNOW AHEAD OF TIME THAT IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN AND SAVE THEIR MONEY.
AND 70% OF THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THEIR HOMES ACTUALLY PAY THEIR MORTGAGE COMPANY MONTHLY SO THEY, THEY'RE NOT PAYING TWICE A YEAR.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT EVERY OTHER MONTH VERSUS 70% THAT IT WON'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO AT ALL.
IT'LL JUST SAVE THEM, UH, $13 AND IT'LL SAY THE, UH, COMMERCIAL ACCOUNT WAS $200.
SO WE HAVE TO DO THE BEST THING FOR OUR TAXPAYER.
UM, WHY SHOULD THIS HUGE PERCENTAGE OF THE TAX PAYERS PAY AN EXTRA $830,000 MORE IN, UH, SEWER FEES TO SUBSIDIZE THOSE FEW WHO DON'T HAVE THE SELF DISCIPLINE THAT SET ASIDE THAT MONEY EVERY MONTH? THAT'S A, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY WHEN YOU COMPARE THAT THE TAX BILL TO UH, YOU KNOW, DOING IT IN HOUSE AND THEN THE, AT THE HYBRID, UH, WE WOULD SAVE THE TAXPAYERS 613,500 PER MONTH BY MY CALCULATIONS.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REALLY NOT OUR PROBLEM IF SOMEONE DOESN'T HAVE THE SELF DISCIPLINE TO SET ASIDE THE MONEY EVERY MONTH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT THE GOVERNMENT'S PLACE TO DO THAT.
I BELIEVE IN PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY AND GIVING THE TAX PAYERS THE LOWEST POSSIBLE COST.
SO THAT'S MY 2 CENTS WORTH WAS BOB, RIGHT ABOUT THOSE FIGURES IS ABOUT 70% HAVE IMPOUND ACCOUNTS AND 30% DON'T.
FROM THE INFORMATION THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GATHER, WHICH IS A COUPLE YEARS OLD, BUT IT ALL, ALL INDICATIONS SHOW THAT IT'S TRENDING UPWARD IN CALIFORNIA.
UH, THAT IS CONTINUING TO INCREASE THAT PERCENTAGE.
DEREK, COULD YOU, COULD YOU DEVELOP SOME KIND OF A EDUCATION PROGRAM FOR OUR PARENTS SO THEY CAN GET HIT? ABSOLUTELY.
AND, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT IS PUTTING OUT A, LIKE A 22ND COMMERCIAL ON FACEBOOK OR PUTTING IT OUT THERE SO THAT EVERYBODY'S VERY WELL EDUCATED IN ADDITION TO THE PAPER, MAILINGS, DIRECT MAILINGS.
UM, WE, WE CAN, WE CAN BE CREATIVE WITH THIS CAMPAIGN AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IT OUT THERE TO EVERYBODY SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND, UM, GARY MAY KNOW, OR COUNCIL MEMBER KENDRICK MAY KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS, BUT, UH, I THINK IF YOU SEND THE COUNTY, UH, 12 EQUAL CHECKS, THEY'LL TAKE THEM.
SO IF YOU WANT TO SPLIT IT UP AND DO IT MONTHLY OR BIMONTHLY, DO SIX EQUAL CHECKS, UH, THEY'LL, THEY'LL TAKE YOUR MONEY AND APPLY IT TO YOUR ACCOUNT.
BUT I WOULD WANT TO CHECK WITH THE TAX COLLECTOR TO MAKE SURE THAT,
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YEAH, GO AHEAD.MR MAYOR ON THE, ON THE PROMOTION PORTION WEEK, WE MET WITH THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION.
WE OFFERED TO ACTUALLY PRODUCE, UM, SOME DOOR HANGERS THAT THEY WOULD ACTUALLY UTILIZE.
THEY COULD UTILIZE FOR THEIR OWN MARKETING PURPOSES, BUT IT WOULD HAVE INFORMATION THAT WOULD HELP THERE, UM, OR ANY RESIDENT THAT THEY'RE MARKETING TO TO UNDERSTAND ANY SWITCH OVER IF THAT'S THE ROUTE THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO TAKE.
SO DID I REMEMBER RIGHT THAT THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION AND THE, UM, AND THE BOARD OF REALTORS WERE AGAINST THIS.
THAT'S OCCURRED NOW, I THINK IT WAS THE BOARD OF REALTORS, UH, PACIFIC SOUTHWEST BOARD OF REALTORS BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT TO QUALIFY FOR A LOAN.
BUT I CHECKED WITH FOUR LOAN BROKERS, UH, MORTGAGE BROKERS AND THEY SAID, NO, THEY, WHEN YOU BUY A HOUSE, THEY USE THE, UH, THEY USE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE.
SO THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE.
I COULDN'T FIND A SINGLE MORTGAGE BROKER THAT SAID OTHERWISE.
I HAD, WELL I HAD A MORTGAGE BROKER WHO SPOKE AND SPOKE TO ME AND SAID THAT BUYING A TV ON A CREDIT CARD IMPACTS YOUR, YOUR, YOUR CHANCES OF QUALIFYING FOR A LOAN MORE THAN THIS WOULD, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, THERE WERE REALLY 13 PEOPLE, ARE WE GOING TO LET 13 PEOPLE FOR THE OTHER 999,000 HUNDRED THOUSAND BECAUSE WE HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE AND ALCOHOL WILL DECIDE THAT ON THIS AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND DISCUSS IT.
THE FIRST ONE WAS SUBMITTED, UM, BY SOMEBODY WITHOUT A NAME.
UH, AND IT JUST SAYS HOPEFULLY THE CHOICE WILL NOT INCREASE RESIDENTIAL BILLING RATES.
AND THE SECOND CARD, THE SECOND CARD IS FROM KEVIN.
UM, MARSH NICK, THE VICE PRECEDENT OF MUNICIPAL MANOLO USA.
AND THAT, UH, COMMENT READS, MENAUL STILL HAS CONCERNS REGARDING THE ESTIMATED COST OF MINERALS, RFP RESPONSE BEING, UH, BEING OVER 1 MILLION AND THE HIGHEST OPTION.
AND ALSO TOTAL PROPOSAL FOR FIRST YEAR IS 750,000 WITH 550,000.
THEREAFTER, WE BELIEVE MANOLO IS BEING INACCURATELY PRESENTED AND THAT OUR PROPOSED COSTS IS LISTED OVER A MILLION COMPARED TO THE IN HOUSE IN HYBRID OPTIONS.
EITHER THE ADDITIONAL 300,000 ESTIMATED COST FOR PAYMENT PROCESSING IS INCORRECT OR IT WAS ADDED ON TO MINERALS COSTS WITHOUT CONSIDERING AN ALTERNATIVE OPTION IF POSSIBLE.
MINOVA WOULD LIKE FURTHER CLARIFICATION FROM THE COUNCIL ON THESE ADDITIONAL COSTS.
WE BELIEVE EITHER AN ERROR HAS BEEN MADE OR THE OPTION WAS WE'RE NOT COMPARED AS APPLES TO APPLES.
MCDONALD BELIEVE IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR BOTH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE CITIZENS TO HAVE THE DETAILS OF THEIR PROPOSED COST FOR EACH OPTION PROVIDED TO US FOR A COMPLETE EVALUATION.
WE BELIEVE THAT MENDEL'S PRICING IF ACCURATELY DEPICTED WOULD BE THE SECOND LOWEST OPTION WITH ONLY THE TAX ROLL OPTION BEING THE ONLY LESS EXPENSIVE OPTION.
WE FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS NO WAY TO OFFER A BIMONTHLY BILLING OPTION THAT WOULD COST LESS THAN THE TAX BILL OPTION, BUT THERE ARE SEVERAL COMPELLING BENEFITS FOR THE CITY TO CONTINUE WITH FIVE MONTHLY BILLING OPTIONS SUCH AS ONE IMPROVED CASHFLOW TO A MORE USING USER-BASED BILLING STRUCTURE.
AND THREE, THE CITY SHOULD BE ABLE TO REDUCE THEIR CURRENT COST BY UTILIZING MENAUL AS THEIR BILLING PROVIDERS.
IF AN ACCURATE COST COMPARISON IS PRESENTED, WE TRULY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
AND THAT CONCLUDES THE COMMENT THERE.
SO MENAUL GAVE US A BID FOR THAT VERY SPECIFIC SERVICE OF BILLING THAT DID NOT INCLUDE CREDIT CARD EXPENSES.
SO WE HAD TO, SO WE COULD COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES BECAUSE ALL THE OTHER OPTIONS DID INCLUDE CREDIT CARD PROCESSING.
SO AS MR EPPERSON SAID, WE TOOK KIND OF A, UM, AN ASSUMPTION BASED ON WHAT OUR CURRENT COSTS ARE FOR FOR CREDIT CARDS, IT'S ABOUT $300,000 ADDED TO THEIR $700,000, A LITTLE UNDER 300 TO THEIR $750,000 BID, WHICH GOT US TO THE JUST OVER THE MILLION DOLLARS.
SO, ASSUMING THAT STAFF WAS WRONG BY HALF, LIKE WE WERE, WE COULD HAVE THAT, THAT, UM, CREDIT CARD AMOUNT, WHICH WE WOULD
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LOVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THAT.BUT EVEN IF WE DID, THEY WOULD STILL BE THE IN BETWEEN THE HYBRID AND THE IN HOUSE MODEL.
SO THEY STILL AREN'T THE LOWEST AND UM, OF THE, OF THE THREE OPTIONS, NOT INCLUDING THE TAX ROLL AND THEY CLEARLY DON'T COMPETE WITH THE TAX ROLL IN TERMS OF COSTS.
ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL, I'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU.
AND YOU TALKED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF MUNICIPALITIES THAT WERE USING THE TAX ROLL OPTION VERSUS THE DIRECT BILLING OPTION.
CAN YOU, DO YOU REMEMBER THOSE FIGURES DARK? SURE.
UM, WE ARE OF ALL THE AGENCIES IN THE COUNTY THAT DOESN'T HAVE THEIR OWN SEWER DEPARTMENT, I MEAN, EXCUSE ME, THEIR OWN WATER DEPARTMENT IN WHICH THEY, THEY BUNDLE THE SEWER BILL WITH THE WATER BILL.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE CLEARLY NOT IN THAT, THAT CATEGORY, RIGHT? SO OF ALL THE CITIES THAT ARE IN THAT K UH, IN THAT CATEGORY, WE'RE THE ONLY ONE.
WELL CHULA VISTA HALF IS, IS HALF THAT WAY.
CAUSE THEY, THEY BILL HALF ONE WAY ON THE TAX ROLL AND HALF, UH, WITH THE THEIR WATER BILL.
UM, AND SO THEY'VE KIND OF GOT A HYBRID OPTION OUT THERE.
BUT, UH, WE'RE THE ONLY ONES BESIDES CHULAVISTA THAT THAT DOES NOT BILL ON THE TAX ROLL.
SO THE PERCENTAGE IS VERY, VERY HIGH OF THOSE THAT IT'S A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF THOSE WHO ALL WHO BILL ON THE TAX ROLLS.
ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL, I'LL LEAVE IT TO YOU.
ANY THOUGHTS? YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN WAS THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK, NOT BEING ABLE TO SAVE AND THAT THIS POLICY CREATES A HARDSHIP.
BUT IF WE CAN FIND OUT IF THE TAX COLLECTOR DOES INDEED ALLOW THEM TO PAY ON WHATEVER FREQUENCY THEY LIKE, THAT WOULDN'T CHANGE MY MIND.
UM, WHAT ABOUT THE EDUCATION PART OF IT, STEVE? THE EDUCATION PART, IF WE INVESTED SOME TIME AND ENERGY INTO IT TO EDUCATE THE PEOPLE THAT THIS WAS COMING SO THEY CAN PREPARE.
I THINK THE KEY FOR ME IS TO FIND OUT IF THE TAXPAYER OR THE TAX COLLECTOR WILL ACCEPT A PERIODIC PAYMENTS.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO FIND THAT OUT TODAY.
I ALSO KNOW THAT THE TAX COLLECTOR WILL ACCEPT CREDIT CARD, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO CHARGE YOU ABOUT A 2% FEE.
WHETHER YOU PAY BY CREDIT CARD OR CASH, WILL THEY ACCEPT, UM, PROPERTY TAX PAYMENTS OUTSIDE OF THE CYCLE? I KNOW THEY ACCEPT THEM OUTSIDE OF THE CYCLE, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN YOU COULD MAKE IT.
UH, I DON'T KNOW THAT FOR A FACT.
IS THERE A, UH, TO STAFF? IS THERE A, UH, A NEED THAT WE HAVE TO SETTLE THIS TODAY? COULD WE HAVE A VERY QUICK, UM, MEETING ON THIS AND TWO WEEKS WITHOUT ANSWER? I THINK THAT'S DOWN TO WHAT IT IS.
I THINK I'M THE ONLY ONE THAT STILL WANTS TO GO WITH A HYBRID, BUT, SO THERE'S, THERE'S ONLY 12 PEOPLE THAT SPOKE, UH, THAT WANTED THE EVERY TWO MONTHS.
AND IF THEY CAN'T HAVE THE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY TO SAVE THE MONEY AND PAY IT ON THE TAX BILL WHEN WE NOTIFY THEM, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS SEE YOUR BETTER OFF.
CAN I, CAN I CHIME IN REALLY FAST? NOW? THIS IS AS GOOD AS GOOGLE GETS.
SO ACCORDING TO GOOGLE, UH, YES, YOU CAN MAKE A PAYMENT AS OFTEN AS YOU LIKE, BUT EACH PAYMENT MUST BE AT LEAST THE AMOUNT OF THE INTEREST THAT HAS ACCRUED SINCE THE DATE OF YOUR LAST PAYMENT PLUS ONE MONTH OF INTEREST.
SO THERE, THE ANSWER, THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES, YOU CAN MAKE PERIODIC PAYMENTS, BUT YOU CAN'T MAKE IT FOR LIKE 2 CENTS.
IT HAS TO HAVE SOME CONNECTIVITY WITH, UH, YOUR INTEREST PAYMENT.
THAT WAS SARA DIAZ, BY THE WAY, AND I FOUND THAT AND IS DIEGO OR JUST IN GENERAL? THAT WAS THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO.
WELL, BOB, WHY DON'T YOU MAKE A MOTION? I MOVE THAT WE GO TO THE TEXTBOOK AND EDUCATE THE PEOPLE, SEND THEM OUT A VERY DETAILED, UH, EASY TO READ.
UH, THING THAT SAYS THAT THEY WON'T BE BILLED EVERY TWO MONTHS.
SAVE YOUR MONEY BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE TO PAY IT WITH YOUR TAXES TWICE A YEAR AND LIKE, UM, ASK FOR AN AMENDED MOTION.
BOB, IF YOU WERE TO CONSIDER THE EDUCATION TO INCLUDE A PEOPLE TO PATRIOTICALLY
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GLEANING MONTHLY OR BIMONTHLY AS A CHOICE IN THE EDUCATION WE SEND THEM.YEAH, WHATEVER THE, WHATEVER THE UH, COUNTY ALLOWS.
UH, BUT I THINK MAYBE THE STAFF COULD CALL UP THESE 12 PEOPLE THAT CAME IN AND SPOKE TO 'EM TO SAVE MONEY ABOVE.
THE QUESTION IS, CAN WE ADD TO YOUR MOTION STEVE'S AMENDMENT? YES.
IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT? OKAY, GOOD.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN INTERESTING THING.
A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT OUR FIVE VOTES AND THERE'S PROBABLY NOT VERY MANY PEOPLE ONLINE TO WITNESS THIS, BUT THIS IS HOW THIS COUNCIL IS VERY FUNCTIONAL IN THAT WE NEGOTIATE THINGS IN PUBLIC AND MAKE CONCESSIONS AND CONSIDERATIONS.
WELL, FIVE VOTE DOESN'T MEAN WE NECESSARILY AGREE ON EVERYTHING IT NEEDS.
WE KNOW HOW TO COMPROMISE AND THEN MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S A TESTAMENT TO OUR COUNCILS FUNCTIONALITY, NOT THE DYSFUNCTION DAYS OF ALL.
CAN I, CAN I INTERJECT AGAIN? I HATE TO BE LIKE THIS BUT UH, DOES THE MOTION INCLUDE THE ADOPTION OF THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS PREPARED FOR PLACING IT ON THE TEXT BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT TO DO THAT UNDER THE HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE.
ANGELA, I HAVE ANOTHER MOTION.
SO MOVED AS TO WHAT OREGON HAS SUGGESTED.
COUNCIL MEMBER KENDRICK AND COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
OKAY, WELL WE'RE GETTING TOWARDS THE END OF THIS COUNCIL MEETING AND WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED.
SO ITEM 19 IS MY ACTIVITY REPORT, WHICH IS AS REPORTED.
THERE'S NO REPORT OF TODAY'S AGENDA AND WE ARE NOW AT ACTIVITY REPORT FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, KENDRICK, AS REPORTED, THE CLOTH THAT'S REPORTED.
AND I THINK THIS IS THE EVENING MEETING THAT WE'RE GETTING INTO NOW.
IT'S SEVEN O'CLOCK COUNSELOR NUMBER GOAL AS REPORTED, AND DEPUTY MAYOR PHIL ORTIZ AS REPORTED.
THERE ARE NO JOINT COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS TODAY.
THERE ARE NO GENERAL INFORMATION.
I WAS FOR DISCUSSION, NO FIRST OR SECOND READING ORDINANCES AND NO CLOSE SESSION ON THE AGENDA.
SO THAT BRINGS US TO THE GERMAN, THE REGULAR JOINT MEDIA, THE ALCOA CITY COUNCIL OUT HOUSING AUTHORITY HELD THIS 12TH DAY OF MAY, 2020 AS A JUROR TIL TUESDAY, MAY 26TH, 2020 AT 3:00 PM THANK YOU.