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WELCOME TO THE OKLAHOMA CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

WE

[ CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Bill Wells]

CONTINUE HOLDING REMOTE MEETINGS WHILE THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER CONTINUES TO BE AN EFFECT DUE TO THE COBIT 19 ACADEMIC.

I'D LIKE TO REMIND OUR CITIZENS THEY CAN SUBMIT QUESTIONS FOR ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA AS WE DID IN THE PREVIOUS MEETING.

PUBLIC COMMENTS MAY ALSO BE SUBMITTED AT THIS TIME.

THEY WILL NEED TO BE UP TO THE APPROPRIATE TIME DURING THIS MEETING.

CALMNESS WILL BE ACCEPTED UP TO THE CONCLUSION OF THE VOTE OR THE ITEM.

COMMENTS CAN BE SUBMITTED THROUGH THE CITY OF ALCOHOL'S WEBSITE UNDER AGENDAS AND MINUTES.

GO TO THE VIDEO STREAMING AND YOU'LL SEE A BUTTON TO SUBMIT YOUR COMMENTS.

I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO DO THAT NOW.

UM, EVEN IF IT MAY BE SEVERAL MINUTES BEFORE WE GET TO IT, BUT THEN IT WILL BE READY AND IT'LL BE IN THE QUEUE.

THE MEETING IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER IT.

I'D LIKE TO ASK HER CITY CLERK TO CALL THE ROLE.

UM, MAYOR, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, WE'LL GET THE, YOU STATE THAT YOU ARE PRESENT.

MAYOR WELLS, DEPUTY MAYOR OR TEAS COUNCIL MEMBER, GLOBAL COUNCIL MEMBER, KENDRICK.

AND COUNCIL.

MEMBER OF MCCLELLAN COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? THANK YOU.

WELL TELL HIM IT'S NICE TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN EVEN IF IT'S KIND OF IN A CYBER WAY.

YEAH.

I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO ASK PEOPLE TO STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

REMAIN STANDING FOR A BRIEF MOMENT OF SILENCE.

AFTERWARDS.

I'LL GO AHEAD AND LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

READY BEGIN.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU.

.

[ POSTINGS: The City Clerk posted Orders of Adjournment of the April 14, 2020, Meeting and the Agenda of the April 28, 2020, Meeting in accordance to State Law and Council/Authority/Successor Agency to the Redevelopment Agency Policy.]

OKAY.

THE CITY CLERK POSTED ORDERS OF A GERMAN OF THE APRIL 14TH, 2020 MEETING AND THE AGENDA OF THE APRIL 28TH, 2020 MEETING IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY POLICY.

OKAY.

I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE PUBLIC ONCE AGAIN TO SUBMIT THE COMMENTS EARLY TO MAKE SURE THEY RECEIVED ON TIME SO THEY CAN BE READ BEFORE THE ITEM IS PERFECT.

OH, WE HAVE SOME PRESENTATIONS.

[ PRESENTATIONS: Presentation: April Pool's Day Presentation: Postponement of the America on Main Street Event, and Creation of 92020 Day]

WE HAVE A FEW PRESENTATIONS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

I'D LIKE TO CALL ON FRANK CARSON, DIRECTOR OF RECREATION.

TELL US ABOUT THESE.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY INTRODUCE DOMINIC MANJIT.

PAWNEE.

HE IS GOING TO INTRODUCE THE APRIL FOOL'S DAY EVENT THAT WE'RE DOING SOMEWHAT VIRTUALLY, BUT SOMEWHAT IN PERSON.

SO IF YOU WANT TO UNMUTE YOUR PHONE AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF SORRY ABOUT THAT.

THE BETTER, THE BETTER.

ALRIGHT.

UM, SO THANK YOU FOR A COUPLE OF NUMBERS AND MAYOR, I'LL NEED TO, UH, HOLD ON.

GO AHEAD.

YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO GO AHEAD AND TURN OFF ALL THE VOLUME ON YOUR SPEAKER SYSTEM.

TICKETING.

SORRY.

YES.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO OUR APRIL FULL DAY EVENT, IT'S ALWAYS HELD AT FLETCHER HILLS CENTER, UH, AND POOL.

AND JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON WHAT APRIL POLL DATE IS, IS IT'S A EDUCATIONAL EVENT GEARED TOWARDS DROWNING PREVENTION, UM, DROWNING PREVENTION.

UM, THE REASON WHY WE'RE SO, YOU KNOW, PASSIONATE ABOUT IT IS BECAUSE WE ARE A COASTAL CITY, UH, WITH LOTS OF, UM, ACCESS TO WATERWAYS, UH, WHETHER IT BE THE BEACH OR POOLS.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, DROWNING IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MORE DEATHS, UH, EXCEPT FOR BIRTH DEFECTS FOR AGES ONE TO FOUR YEARS OLD.

AND THEN, UM, DROWNING IS THE SECOND LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH.

FOR ONE TO 14 YEARS OLD, UH, WHICH IS JUST BEHIND, UM, MOTOR VEHICLE CRASHES.

SO, UH, IRONICALLY, 10 PEOPLE DROWN EVERY DAY, WHICH IS A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, DISCONCERTING.

AND ON AVERAGE, TWO OF THEM ARE UNDER 14 YEARS OF AGE.

AND FOR EVERY CHILD WHO DROWNS, THERE ARE ANOTHER FIVE THAT RECEIVE EMERGENCY CARE FOR NON, UH, FATAL SUBMERSION.

SO, AND THE THING ABOUT DROWNING IS THAT THESE ARE COMPLETELY PREVENTABLE.

UH, MOST OF THESE ACCIDENTS ARE TAKEN WHEN PROPER MEASURES ARE NOT

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TAKEN.

AND, UH, SO THAT'S WHAT THE WHOLE, UM, APRIL FOOL'S DAY IS ABOUT, IS ABOUT DROWNING PREVENTION.

UH, SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A QUICK BACKGROUND, UH, MAY IS DROWNING PREVENTION MONTH, WHICH IS WHY WE KIND OF KICK IT OFF IN APRIL, UH, WITH OUR APRIL DAY EVENT.

THIS IS A MULTIPLE CITY AND PRIVATE AGENCY, UM, TYPE OF EVENT WHERE EACH OF THEM HOST THEIR OWN, UM, AND WE ALL COLLABORATE ON THINGS AND IDEAS AND WHATNOT BECAUSE WE ARE PART OF THE SAN DIEGO AQUATIC COUNCIL, WHICH INCLUDES MANY DIFFERENT MUNICIPALITIES IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY, AS WELL AS SOME OF THE PRIVATE AGENCIES AS WELL, UH, FOR ELKO HOMES CONTRIBUTION.

UH, TO THIS DROWNING PREVENTION ENDEAVOR, WE OFFER A LOT OF ACTIVITIES FOR JUST A SIX MONTH, UM, OPERATIONS THAT WE DO.

SO WE, YOU KNOW, GO FROM OCTOBER TO, I'M SORRY, APRIL TO OCTOBER.

UH, APPROXIMATELY 2000 PARTICIPANTS COME THROUGH OUR, THROUGH OUR, UH, FACILITY AND OUR PROGRAMS AND WE DO EVERYTHING FROM, UH, SIX MONTHS OLD ALL THE WAY UP TO SENIORS.

SO, AND WE OFFER EVERYTHING FROM SWIM LESSONS, WATER, FITNESS, AS WELL AS PRIVATE LESSONS AND SWIM TEAM.

UH, LAST YEAR, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT IT WAS, LAST YEAR'S APRIL FOOL'S DAY THAT WE HAD SPECIFIC SAFETY STATIONS, UH, REGION THROW LIFE JACKETS, UM, CPR MINI LESSON.

UM, WE HAD OUR, UH, FAMOUS JOSH THE OTTER, AND THEN WE ALSO HAD HEARTLAND FIRE COME OUT, YOU KNOW, JUST TO SHOW LIKE ALL OF THE SAFETY ASPECTS.

AND THIS IS A COMPLETELY FREE EVENT TO THE COMMUNITY.

UH, ALL THEY HAD TO DO WAS SHOW UP AND, YOU KNOW, AND JUST GET A CHANCE TO PARTICIPATE.

UNFORTUNATELY, DUE TO COBIT, UM, THIS YEAR'S, UH, APRIL FOOL'S DAY IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

WE ARE DOING A DRIVE THROUGH APRIL FOOL'S DAY, SO IT IS GOING TO BE HOSTED AT THE FLETCHER HILLS POOL IN, UH, FLETCHER HILL.

AND UH, IT WILL BE TOMORROW, UH, BETWEEN 11:00 AM TO 1:00 PM AND WE ARE GOING TO BE GIVING OUT A LITTLE SAFETY BAG, WHICH INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE BAG FOR THE FAMILY.

UH, SO IT'S GOT INFORMATION FOR PARENTS AS WELL AS ACTIVITIES FOR THE KIDS AND THEN JUST LIKE LITTLE KEEPSAKES, UM, THAT WILL JUST REMIND THEM OF WATER SAFE.

SO THAT IS HOW WE'RE TRYING TO APPROACH IT AND YOU KNOW, GIVE IT A NEW TWIST WITH OUR CURRENT PREDICAMENT.

UM, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU.

DOMINIC.

CAN YOU SHARE YOUR SCREEN NOW? THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

NEXT I'D LIKE TO CALL ON COUNCIL MEMBER STEVE GOLD TO RECOGNIZE SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS.

STEVE THINKING, MR MAYOR, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF PEOPLE CHIPPING IN TO HELP OUT, UH, THROUGH THIS TIME OF COVERT 19 HONOR AND ALCOHOL.

WE'VE HEARD ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAD JUMPED IN AND, UH, BROUGHT FOOD TO SENIORS ON A MOMENT'S NOTICE.

UH, THERE'S ONE GROUP THOUGH I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE TODAY WHO HAD REALLY DONE A SUPER JOB.

THEY DON'T EVEN LIVE IN, IN OKLAHOMA.

THEY DON'T EVEN LIVE IN CALIFORNIA.

THEY LIVE IN NEW MEXICO AND THEY'RE FROM ALBUQUERQUE, NEW MEXICO.

AND TOGETHER THEY MADE OVER 200 FACE MASKS FOR, UH, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT OR FIREFIGHTERS.

UM, THEY EVEN MADE SOME FOR THE HOME DEPOT PEOPLE, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT BUSINESS TO US IN TOWN.

AND, UH, SOME OF THE SENIORS OVER AT SAINT PAUL'S PEACE CENTER, UH, WERE BROUGHT THERE.

SO TOGETHER, UH, THIS GROUP CREATED MORE THAN 200 FACE MASKS FOR THE FAMILIES AND CLIENTS AND WORKERS.

JUST AN OUTSTANDING EFFORT.

I'D LIKE TO RECOGNIZE DEBBIE PORTER, BEV CUMMINS, BAR MOSS, GINGER CAUSEY AND VANESSA ALLEN, AND JUST GIVE, UH, OUR HEARTFELT THANKS FROM THE CITY OF ALCOHOL TO THEM FOR THEIR GENEROSITY AND CERTAINLY A LOT OF THE TIME, UH, TO PREPARE THESE MASKS.

SO WONDERFUL JOB.

WE'RE JUST SO APPRECIATIVE OF THEM AND I'VE GOT SOME CERTIFICATES, I'LL BE MAILING TO THEM.

SO THANK YOU TO THOSE FIVE LADIES.

OH, THANKS STEVE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

GREAT.

WE HAVE ONE MORE.

MAYOR FRANK CARSON.

I BELIEVE MAYOR, THANK YOU.

YES, THANK YOU.

I WILL SEND A REMINDER THAT WE'RE, WE'RE ON IT.

HI FRANK LOU.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UH, AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE GOING, UH, HAVE TO POSTPONE AMERICA ON MAIN STREET THIS YEAR FOR OBVIOUS REASONS AND WE'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT DIFFERENT WAYS HOW WE CAN STILL DO SOME ENGAGING THINGS WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

SO, UM, JUST JUST A REMINDER, IT WAS THE THIRD SATURDAY MAY.

UM, SO IT'S ALWAYS ARMED FORCES DAY.

OUR THEME THIS YEAR, WHICH WE'LL REBRAND AND MAKE OUR THEME FOR 2021 ALSO IS 100 YEARS OF AVIATION.

SAN DIEGO.

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UH, THE STAFF HAD DONE A LOT OF WORK BEHIND THE SCENES ON IT, SO WE DON'T WANT TO REINVENT THE WHEEL, SO WE'RE GONNA ROLL THIS ONE OUT IN 2021.

UH, BUT STAFF ALSO CAME TO US AND THOUGHT OF, WELL, LET'S DO AMERICA ON YOUR STREET.

UM, SO WHAT THAT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT CAN MEAN A NUMBER OF THINGS AND IT ALL DEPENDS ON SOME OF THE COUNTY HEALTH DIRECTIVES THAT WE DO GET.

UM, BUT AS YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH OUR REC SQUAD GOING OUT, THIS COULD BE MORE HYPER-LOCAL WHERE OUR REC SQUAD DOES GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY OR COMMUNITY CAN ACTUALLY ENGAGE WITH US ON SOCIAL MEDIA, HOW THEY'RE BRINGING AMERICA ON THEIR STREET.

WE COULD BRING OUT A LITTLE KITS THAT ARE SPONSORED.

UM, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS HOW WE CAN ENGAGE OUR COMMUNITY IN THE BEGINNING OF THE SUMMER WAS MAY AND THEN ALSO JUNE WITH AMERICA ON YOUR STREET.

UH, BEYOND THAT WE ARE ALREADY PLANNING AN EVENT CALLED NINE TWO OH TWO OH DAY.

UH, SO, SO ONE TIME EVENT, IT WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 20TH ON A SUNDAY AT 2020.

SO THE ACTUAL DATE ALSO FITS OUR ZIP CODE.

SO THE INTENT ORIGINALLY BEHIND THIS WAS REALLY GOING TO BE, UM, COMMUNITY SERVICE PROJECTS THAT WE COULD UTILIZE A LOT OF GROUPS AROUND THE CITY TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS.

UM, ALSO COMMUNITY CELEBRATION, CELEBRATING OUTCOMES, HERITAGE AND DIVERSITY.

UH, WE DON'T KNOW WITH WHAT TREMORS WILL BE WORKING IN.

MAYBE WE'LL ONLY BE ABLE TO DO FIVE GROUP TEAMS OF FIVE OR WE COULD DO UP TO 500 PEOPLE BY SEPTEMBER OR EVEN A THOUSAND OR MORE.

UH, SO WE'RE GOING TO BE SOMEWHAT FLUID WITH HOW WE PLAN THIS.

WE ARE GOING TO PLAN THIS TO HAVE ATTRACTIONS AND ACTIVITIES AS IT ALSO, UM, TO SOMEWHAT MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE FOR AMERICA ON MAIN STREET.

UH, BUT NEVERTHELESS WE WILL HAVE THIS NINE TWO OH TWO OH DAY, UM, ALSO ROLLING OVER SOME OF THE EFFORTS THAT WE MADE IN AMERICA ON MAIN STREET TOWARD THIS AS, UH, AND THAT ACTUALLY DOES CONCLUDE MY PRESENTATION.

THANKS FRANK.

SHIT.

THAT ALL RIGHT.

THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA CHANGES.

STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANY AGENDA CHANGES? OKAY.

MAY I HAVE ONE CHANGE TO THE AGENDA ON THE AGENDA THAT WE HAVE ONE CLOSED SESSION ITEM.

IT'S MY PERFORMANCE EVALUATION.

I THINK THERE'S SOME VALUE IN GETTING TOGETHER AND DOING THAT FACE TO FACE, WHICH WE CAN'T DO QUITE YET.

THERE'S UM, UNLESS THE COUNCIL HAS A PRESSING NEED TO DO THIS, I'M OKAY WITH PUSHING THIS OFF UNTIL WE CAN DO THAT.

SO THAT WOULD REQUIRE A VOTE OF THE COUNCIL TO REMOVE THAT ITEM IF THE COUNCIL SO CHOOSES.

YEAH, I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD DO ALL LOOKING AT EACH OTHER.

UM, I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION.

SECOND.

MOVING.

SECOND.

MAYOR, WILL'S YOUR VOTE PLEASE.

UH, YES.

DEPUTY MAYOR TESE I VOTE YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER OF GLOBAL? YES.

KENDRICK? YES.

MCCLELLAN? YES.

THE MOTION PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

UM, EXCELLENT.

OKAY.

UM, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA? NO, I'M SEEING NONE.

THAT BRINGS US THEN

[7. CONSENT ITEMS: Consent Items are routine matters enacted by one motion according to the RECOMMENDATION listed below. With the concurrence of the City Council, a Council Member or person in attendance may request discussion of a Consent Item at this time.]

THE CONSENT ITEMS. CONSENT ITEMS ARE ROUTINE MATTERS AND ACTED BY ONE MOTION ACCORDING TO THE RECOMMENDATION LISTED BELOW WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, A COUNCIL MEMBER OR PERSON IN ATTENDANCE MAY REQUEST DISCUSSION OF A CONSENT ITEM AT THIS TIME.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO YOU WISH TO PULL ANY CONSENT ITEMS? I SEE NOBODY.

OKAY.

STAFF, DO YOU WANT TO PULL ANY CONSENT ITEMS? NO SIR.

ANGELA, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS FOR CONSENT ITEMS? YES SIR.

NO COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED.

HOW ABOUT YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION THEN TO APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS? OKAY.

MAYOR WILLS YOUR VOTE PLEASE.

HI, DEPUTY MAYOR.

YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER GLOBAL KENDRICK MCCLELLAN.

YES.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

RESULTS TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

[ PUBLIC COMMENT: At this time, any person may address a matter within the jurisdiction of the City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the El Cajon Redevelopment Agency that is not on the Agenda. Comments relating to items on today’s docket are to be taken at the time the item is heard. State law prohibits discussion or action on items not on the Agenda; however, Council, Authority and Agency Members may briefly respond to statements or questions. An item may be placed on a future Agenda.]

AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS A MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE GONG RETIREMENT AGENCY THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

COMMENTS RELATED TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA OR PICK A TIME OF THE ANIMAS HEARD STATE LAW PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ON ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

HOWEVER, CITY COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND.

STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS AND AN ITEM MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

ANGELA, DID WE GET ANY COMMENTS IN THE QUEUE? YES SIR.

WE RECEIVED ONE COMMENT FROM MR. DAVID CHENOWITH.

UM, MR. DAVID CHENOWITH IS A US NAVY VETERAN AND

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A CERTIFIED BY THE FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT INSTITUTE AS A CERTAIN FIRST RESPONDER AND HE WROTE, I WATCHED MAYOR WILL'S VIRTUAL TOWN HALL ON MARCH 24 2020 MAYOR, WELL, CITY MANAGER, MITCHELL AND POLICE TEAM MOLTEN AND CORDELL FROM RESIDENTS TO VOLUNTARILY OBSERVE OUR STATEWIDE STAY AT HOME ORDER WHILE AT THE SAME TIME DECLARING A CASHFLOW, HANDS OFF APPROACH TO BUSINESS OBEDIENCE TO THAT ORDER.

THE CITY LEADERS FAILED TO ESTABLISH EFFECTIVE PRINCIPAL DISTANCING BETWEEN THEMSELVES AND SUPPORT STAFF AT THE TOWN HALL MEETING A BAD STATE OF EMERGENCY MISDIRECTION.

A BAD PHYSICAL DISTANCING EXAMPLE.

MAYOR WILL'S VIRTUAL FROM HELEN HALL WAS IN EPIC LEADERSHIP FAILURE.

COFFEE IS NONESSENTIAL AND STARBUCKS IS A NONESSENTIAL CULTURAL LUXURY.

IT IS APPARENT THAT MAYOR WELLS DID NOT TAKE OUR STATEWIDE SAY IMPORTANT ORDER SERIOUSLY.

WHEN HE AND HIS DOG DECIDED TO VIOLATE THE STATE AT HOME ORDER AND MAKE AN EVENING COFFEE RUN TO STARBUCKS.

SO I'LL INTRINSIC TO STARBUCKS.

MAYOR WELLS WRESTLE WITH HIS CANINE PASSENGER AND WILL OVER HIS CAR.

UM, MR. WELLS CINDER HIMSELF AND DANGER.

THE PUBLIC AND HIS BEST FRIEND PARALLELS PUT A STRAIN ON MUCH NEEDED FIRST RESPONDER AND EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES AT THE SCENE OF A SINGLE CAR ACCIDENT.

IN ADDITION, MAYOR WILL'S ACTIONS PUT A DRAIN ON MUCH NEEDED MEDICAL RESOURCES AND DIVERTED ATTENTION OF ALREADY OVERBURDENED.

MEDICAL PERSONNEL AT TWO HOSPITALS HAD LEADERSHIP DECISION.

THAT PUBLIC EXAMPLE QUESTION FOR CITY MANAGER MITCHELL.

SINCE MAYOR WALES WAS IN VIOLATION OF CALIFORNIA STATE WIDE, SAY AT HOME MORTAR, WHEN CLASSING THIS SINGLE CAR ACCIDENT, WILL MAYOR WELLS BE BILL FOR THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA VERSUS PONDER IN EMERGENCY RESPONSE EXPENSES RELATED TO THIS ACCIDENT? AND THAT CONCLUDES THE COMMENTS FROM MR GENERAL, UH, MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL IS, IS, YOU KNOW, UM, RESTAURANTS ARE ALLOWED UNDER FEDERAL GUIDELINES, GUIDELINES AND DATA, YOUR COUNTY GUIDELINES.

SO I DON'T THINK THE MAYOR'S TRIP TO STARBUCKS IS A VIOLATION OF THE STAY AT HOME ORDER IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.

IN TERMS OF, I GUESS THE QUESTION POSED TO ME, WHICH YOU'VE ASKED ME TO RESPOND TO IS ARE WE GOING TO BUILD THE MAYOR FOR RESPONDING TO THIS ACCIDENT? WELL, FIRST I, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT OCCURRED IN THE CITY LIMITS.

UM, AND THEN SECOND, I THE, UM, WE DON'T CHARGE ANYBODY FOR, UM, BASIC SERVICES.

SO IF WE RUN A CALL FOR OUR HEART ATTACK OR FOR A ACCIDENT, WE DON'T BUILD THAT LESTER'S, THERE'S NEGLIGENT BEHAVIOR.

SO IF SOMEONE WERE TO DRINK AND DRIVE AND DESTROY A STREETLIGHT, WE WILL BILL FOR THAT.

BUT JUST FOR RESPONDING TO A TYPICAL EMERGENCY WHICH THIS WAS, THERE WOULDN'T BE A FILTER FOR THAT.

THAT ANSWERS THE COUNSEL'S QUESTIONS.

IT MAKES HIM BUT HE FEEL BETTER.

I DIDN'T GET COPIED FOR ABOUT THREE WEEKS AFTER THAT SO I DEFINITELY DIDN'T MAKE IT THERE.

ANY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? MAYOR WELLS WE HAVE NO OTHER COMMENTS.

ALRIGHT.

DID I GO TO PUBLIC HEARINGS?

[6. FY 2020-21 One-Year Action Plan (CONTINUED TO MAY 12, 2020) RECOMMENDATION: The Public Hearing has been continued to May 12, 2020, at 3:00 pm.]

WE ARE AT PUBLIC HEARINGS.

ITEM SIX IS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2021 ON YOUR ACTION PLAN.

THIS ITEM WAS PREVIOUSLY NOTICED OR PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS AFTERNOON, BUT AS BEING CONTINUED HELP MAY 12TH, 2020 AT 3:00 PM BECAUSE STAFF HAVE PUBLISHED A NEW NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING.

THERE IS NOT NEED FOR US TO TAKE TESTIMONY OR ACTION ON STAGE READING.

MR MITCHUM HERE.

WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND FOR THIS IS THIS IS REALLY TO ACCOMMODATE THE ADDITIONAL CARES ACT SERVICE PROVIDERS.

SO WE PUT A AN RFP OUT ON THE STREET.

WE HAVE RESPONSES AND SO WE NEED TO GET THOSE BEFORE YOU, THERE WASN'T ENOUGH TIME FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING PERSPECTIVE TO GET IT TO THIS MEETING.

SO WE'RE RECOMMENDING THE COUNCIL ONE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING TODAY AND THE CONTINUING FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS THROUGH FOR MAY 12TH.

UM, SO THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE THE MOTION THAT STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND.

OKAY.

SO THERE'LL BE A SERIES OF MOTIONS.

UM, FIRST ONE WOULD BE I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

OKAY.

YEAH, I BELIEVE THE SECOND ANGELA? YES.

THANK YOU.

UH, MAYOR WELLS, YOUR VOTE? YES.

YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER GLOBAL? YES.

KENDRICK

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MCCLELLAN.

YES.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

OKAY, GREAT.

NOW I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO POSTPONE THE, UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DATE IS IT COMING BACK GROUND? UM, WE'D RECOMMEND CONTINUING CONTINUING THE HEARING UNTIL MAY 12TH, 2012 MOTION TO CONTINUE THE HEARING TIL MAY 12TH.

OKAY.

FAREWELLS YOUR VOTE? YES.

DEPUTY MAYOR OR TEAS? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER GLOBAL? YES.

KENDRICK MCCLELLAN.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

DO I NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW? NO, SIR.

OKAY.

MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, THEN YOU JUST CONTINUE IT.

THIS CONTINUED.

DO WE NEED YOU, YOU NEED A VOTE TO CONTINUE WHAT? I THINK WE JUST DID THAT CORRECT, SIR? WE JUST CONTINUED.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE GOOD TO MOVE ON.

EITHER MADE IS REGARDING THE RECESSION OF FINAL, UH, I'M SORRY.

IS REGARDING THE RESCISSION OF THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT AND THE OKLAHOMA CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND WHAT TO ASK STAFF.

TELL US ALL ABOUT THIS.

WE HAVE ITEMS SEVEN PLEASE.

WHO'S, WHO'S GOING TO BE YES.

AND WILL BE, I'M SORRY.

OKAY.

UM, OKAY.

I THINK MY, MY SCRIPT IS OFF ON THIS, BUT UH, WHO'S GOING TO TELL US ABOUT ITEM SEVEN?

[7. Credit Card Processing Fees RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council receives the report, discusses, and directs staff, as necessary.]

MR MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, UM, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR, CLAY.

SHANE IS GOING TO INTRODUCE THIS ITEM FOUR.

OKAY, THAT'S SUPER.

THANKS CLAY.

THINK A MIC MIGHT BE MUTED.

LARKSPUR.

ALRIGHT.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

HONORABLE MAYOR, DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS KEISHA AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE FOR THE CITY OF ALCOHOL.

EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO PRESENT INFORMATION REGARDING THE CREDIT CARD PROCESSING FEES.

THIS REPORT IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE SOME OF THAT INFORMATION, INCLUDING A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF EACH OF THE LOCATIONS, PHYSICAL LOCATIONS AND ONLINE PRESENCES WHERE THE CITY PROCESSES CREDIT CARD FEES.

WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED INFORMATION RELATED TO UH, AN ESTIMATE OF THE VOLUME OF PROCESS CREDIT CARD PROCESSING THE CITY DOES ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.

AND ALSO A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF SOME OF THE ISSUES RELATED TO THE PROCESSING OF CREDIT CARDS.

OUR INTENTION WITH THIS REPORT IS TO PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION TO SUPPORT THE DISCUSSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND, UH, POTENTIALLY ANY, UH, DIRECTION, UH, FOR STAFF.

FOLLOWING THAT.

WITH THAT, I'LL CONCLUDE MY COMMENTS AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

CLAY, I APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS FOR CLAY? UH, YES I DO.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I BROUGHT UP.

UM, YEAH, AND I THINK IT'S EVEN MORE TIMELY NOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR REVENUE SOURCES OR JUST TO THE BLEEDING OF SPENDING SO TO SPEAK.

SO AS I CLEANSE, I SEE IT, WE'RE SPENDING ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A YEAR ON CREDIT CARD CHARGES, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.

SO, UH, I THINK YOUR RECOMMENDATION OR ONE OPTION THAT WE HAVE IS TO, IS TO CHARGE A CREDIT CARD PROCESSING FEE BUT IMPLEMENT THAT ALONG WITH OUR ANNUAL REVIEW OF FEEDS.

IS THAT CORRECT? UM, I BELIEVE THE POSITION WE TOOK IN THE REPORT WAS A REQUEST THAT SHOULD THE CITY COUNCIL DECIDE TO ASSESS A CREDIT CARD PROCESSING FEE THAT THE TIMING OF THAT COINCIDE WITH THE ANNUAL FEE UPDATE.

OKAY.

ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS IF WE ADD A CREDIT CARD PROCESSING FEE AND SOME PEOPLE DECIDE, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO SAVE THAT FEE.

LET'S SAY IT'S TWO AND A HALF PERCENT, 2.6%, WHATEVER IT IS, I'M GOING TO PAY BY CHECK.

WHAT KIND OF BURDEN DOES THAT PUT ON THE FINANCE STAFF? UM, IT'S HARD TO SAY WITHOUT, UH, REAL INFORMATION ON WHAT THE EFFECT, UH, HAVE

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ON THE CONSUMERS AND THE DECISIONS THEY MAKE.

UM, CREDIT CARD OR ANY KIND OF CARD PROCESSING, WHETHER THAT BE DEBIT CARDS OR CREDIT CARDS OR, UH, BY FAR AND LARGE, THE EASIEST TRANSACTION FOR US TO DO.

UM, SO ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT, A CASH PAYMENT, A CREDIT CARD, OR EXCUSE ME, A CHECK PAYMENT IS INCREMENTALLY A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT THAN A CREDIT CARD TRANSACTION.

SO THERE, THERE WILL BE SOME BURDEN BY MOVING TO ANOTHER PAYMENT FORM.

BUT IT'S HARD TO SAY HOW BIG OF AN IMPACT AT THIS TIME.

IS THERE ANY CHANGE IN AVAILABILITY OF CASH VERSUS A CREDIT CARD PAYMENT VERSUS A CHECK? NOT THAT WOULD BE IMPACTFUL ON CITY OPERATIONS.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE AT THE MOMENT.

ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS? YES, WE WOULD HAVE NO CREDIT CARD FEES ON SEWER BILLS IF WE PUT IT ON THE TAX BILL.

I SUGGESTED LAST MEETING, UH, FEEL THAT IT'S RIGHT ARE HURT, USE OUR COURAGE TO VOTE, BUT IT ON THE TAX BILL BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT, UH, RIGHT NOW WE'RE PAYING A LOT OF CREDIT CARD FEES LIKE SEWER BILLS IS, I'M SURE A LOT OF THOSE ARE PAID BACK CREDIT.

SO WE WOULD SAY QUITE A BIT OF THAT JUST ON THAT ONE ITEM.

AND UH, WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED STAFFED AND THEY'RE VERY, UH, USEFUL SCENARIO ON THAT.

AND I THINK THAT BRING THAT BACK AS SOON AS SPOUSE.

UM, GRAHAM ISN'T THAT COMING BACK FROM DISCUSSION AT SOME POINT SOON.

SO AT THE NEXT MEETING MAY 12TH, WE'LL BE PRESENTING, UM, THE, THE OPTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL DIRECTED US TO LOOK AT, WHICH WAS, UH, CONTRACTING OUT.

SO, BUT OF COURSE THE SEWER BILLS IS ALWAYS AN ALTERNATIVE.

YOU COULD SEE, YOU COULD CONTINUE TO LOOK AT.

MMM.

AS FOR, UM, THIS ISSUE.

DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? WELL, I'VE GOT ANOTHER QUESTION.

ONE MORE QUESTION.

UM, CLAY, DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO HANDLE ACH PAYMENTS, UH, IN THE SAME WAY THAT WE ACCEPT CREDIT CARD PAYMENTS? THAT'S KIND OF A DIFFICULT QUESTION TO ANSWER BRIEFLY.

UM, THROUGH OUR BANKING SERVICES PROVIDER, WE DO HANDLE US VERY LOW VOLUME OF ACH PAYMENTS.

UM, THERE ARE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, UH, PROCESSING HURDLES ON THE OPERATIONAL SIDE, NOT ON THE BANKING SIDE.

UM, IF THAT WAS AN OPTION WE ROLLED OUT CITY WIDE, I THINK WE WOULD OFFER ALL KINDS OF PAYMENTS.

I THINK WE WOULD PROBABLY STRUGGLE WITH THE TOOLS WE HAVE TO PROCESS.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I AM.

OKAY.

ANGELA, ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC ON THIS SEMESTER? NO COMMENTS.

ALL RIGHT.

THEN, UM, THERE'S NO NEED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS.

I WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO PROCEED WITH A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REPORT.

MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REPORT.

IS THERE A SECOND? CHICKEN FAREWELLS YOUR VOTE PLEASE? YES.

DEPUTY MAYOR TEAS? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER GLOBAL? YES.

KENDRICK.

YEAH.

YES.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, THIS

[8. Rescission of Final Environmental Impact Report and the El Cajon Climate Action Plan (CAP) RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council adopts the next Resolution, in order, to: Rescind Resolution No. 072-19, approving the 2019 CAP Final Environmental Impact Report, rescind Resolution No. 073-19, approving the 2019 Climate Action Plan; and Request staff to continue to monitor recent and future developments related to the 2019 CAP; and at an appropriate time, recommend update of the 2019 CAP, and return to the City Council for consideration.]

NOW BRINGS US TO AUTOMATE ANIMATED.

IT WAS REGARDING THE PRECISION OF A FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT AND THE OKLAHOMA CLIMATE ACTION PLAN STAFF.

WOULD YOU TELL US ABOUT THIS PLACE? THANK YOU MARY.

I THINK IT'S FOR ME.

UH, THIS IS AN ITEM TO TAKE TWO ACTIONS.

THE FIRST IS TO RESCIND RESOLUTION ZERO SEVEN TWO DASH 19 THAT APPROVED THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT.

AND THE SECOND IS TO, UM, AS WELL AS TO RESEND RESOLUTION NUMBER ZERO SEVEN THREE 19.

THAT, UH, ACTUALLY ADOPTED THE CLIMATE ACTION PLAN AND I'M NOT SURE IF I'M BEING HEARD.

I HEAR YOU, MORGAN.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, THEN THE, UM, THE SECOND RECOMMENDATION IS TO REQUEST STAFF TO MONITOR RECENT FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS RELATED TO THE M 28 2019 CLIMATE ACTION PLAN.

SO AT AN APPROPRIATE TIME WE COULD RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THAT PLAN AND A RETURN TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR CONSIDERATION IF YOU'LL RECALL YOU ADOPTED THE PLAN AND THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT IN

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JULY OF LAST YEAR.

AND UH, AFTER THAT THERE WERE, UM, THERE WERE QUESTIONS OF THOSE AND CRITICISMS OF THOSE THAT, UH, FELT THAT THE PLAN ITSELF WAS NOT SUFFICIENT.

UM, SO IN RE IN OUR EFFORTS TO TRY TO DETERMINE THE SUFFICIENCY OF THIS PLAN, WE'VE BEEN WORKING, UH, ON WHAT NEEDS TO BE, WHAT COULD BE DONE RATHER THAN WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE SO MUCH.

UM, PART OF THAT, UM, AS RESULTED IN US DELAYING ANY ACTION UNTIL WE GOT INTO OUR COBIT 19 CRISIS.

AND AS A RESULT OF THAT CRISIS, OF COURSE WE HAVE TO FOCUS OUR EFFORTS AND FINANCIAL, UM, CONSIDERATIONS AND IN OTHER LOCATIONS.

SO IN ORDER TO REMOVE THE STRAIN, THE FINANCIAL STRAIN OF THAT, AND ALSO BECAUSE OF, UM, PENDING LOCAL UNDERSTAND AG AS WELL AS STATE AND FEDERAL EMISSIONS RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT COULD IMPACT WHAT WE DO WITH OUR PLAN.

IN THE FUTURE, WE'RE RECOMMENDING WE SIMPLY RESCIND THE ACTIONS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY TAKEN.

IT'LL TAKE US BACK TO NO CAP, UH, THERE WILL NO LONGER BE AN APPROVED FINAL EIR AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WHEN THE TIME'S APPROPRIATE TO, UH, REVIEW THAT CAP IF WE WANT TO BRING IT BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND, UH, MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO ENSURE THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE USED IN THE FUTURE.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT AND, AND UH, BE HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

THANK YOU MORGAN.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR ATTORNEY? OH, WELL THANK YOU MORGAN.

UM, ANGELA, DID WE RECEIVE ANY, UH, COMMENTS FROM INSIDE HIM? YOU HAVE NO COMMENT, SIR.

OKAY, WELL, I MEAN DISCUSSION AYE.

RIGHT.

GRAHAM, WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANTED TO WEIGH IN ON THIS, ON THIS ITEM? NO MA'AM.

MR MAYOR, I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE, I'LL BE INTERJECTING A LITTLE BIT ON THE NEXT ITEM THOUGH.

GOTCHA.

ALRIGHT.

UM, IN DISCUSSION ON THIS, SOMEBODY HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO MOVE THE SECOND.

THE SECOND MAYOR.

WELSER VOTE PLEASE.

YES.

THE MAYOR.

GEES.

YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER OF GLOBAL.

YES.

KENDRICK MCCLELLAN.

YES.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

GREAT.

UM,

[9. Consider Options to Study the Formation of a Community Choice Aggregation (CCA) RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council considers options to study the formation of a Community Choice Aggregation (CCA) and provide direction to staff.]

LAST ADMINISTRATOR REPORT, I'M NUMBER NINE IS CONSIDER OPTIONS TO STUDY THE FORMATION OF A COMMUNITY CHOICE AGGREGATION.

I'LL ASK OUR STAFF TO INTRODUCE THE SIDA.

GRAHAM, CERTAINLY MR MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

UM, I'M GOING TO TURN THE TIME OVER TO DAVE RICHARDS, UH, ONE OF OUR MANAGEMENT ANALYSTS, SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYST AND THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

SO WITH THAT, UH, MR. RICHARDS.

HEY STEVE.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME OKAY? YES.

YES.

OKAY, GREAT.

GIVE ME A SECOND.

I'M GOING TO SHARE MY PRESENTATION WITH YOU.

AND CAN YOU GUYS ALL SEE THAT? YES.

YES.

GREAT, GREAT.

SO GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UH, TODAY'S PRESENTATION PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW OF COMMUNITY CHOICE AGGREGATIONS KNOWN AS TCAS AND POTENTIAL OPTIONS TO STUDY AND ESTABLISH, UH, OR THE POTENTIAL ESTABLISHMENT OF A CCA.

SO A COMMUNITY CHOICE AGGREGATION, WHICH IS APPOINTED BY LOCAL GOVERNMENT ACTS AS AN ENERGY BROKER BUYING AND SELLING POWER POWER PURCHASED BY THE CCA.

IT'S TRANSMITTED THROUGH POWER LINES OWNED AND OPERATED BY EXISTING POWER COMPANIES AND OUR CASE AT SAN DIEGO GAS AND ELECTRIC TO THE END USER BILLING AND OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE TASKS.

UM, AND THIS MODEL WOULD ALSO CONTINUE TO BE MANAGED THROUGH THE CURRENT POWER COMPANY.

A COMMUNITY CHOICE AGGREGATION CAN HELP, UH, TO ACHIEVE SEVERAL POTENTIAL GOALS.

IT CAN CREATE COMPETITION AND AN ENERGY MARKET BY INTRODUCING ALTERNATIVE RATES AND ENERGY SOURCES.

IT CAN PROVIDE LESS EXPENSIVE POWER.

IT CAN HELP MEET STATE MANDATED GREENHOUSE GAS GOALS AND IT CAN PROVIDE LOCAL FUNDS FOR ENERGY CONSERVATION PROGRAMS. CCA IS, CAN TAKE THE FORM OR CCA IS, CAN BE CREATED BY ONE OR MORE CITIES OR COUNTIES.

THERE ARE THREE TYPES OF CCAS.

THERE'S A STANDALONE JPA MODEL AND A HYBRID OPTION, WHICH I'LL DISCUSS A

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LITTLE MORE DETAILED RIGHT NOW.

I WOULDN'T, A SINGLE CITY OR COUNTY ESTABLISHES A CCA.

IT OPERATES AS A STANDALONE UNDER THIS MODEL, THE CCA FUNCTIONS AS A CITY ENTERPRISE.

THIS IS A LOT LIKE THE CITY SEWER SERVICES, UM, WHICH OPERATES AS AN ENTERPRISE.

THE NEXT TYPE IS THE JPA WHEN TWO OR MORE AGENCIES PARTNER TO FORMATE AT CCA, A JOINT POWERS AUTHORITY IS CREATED IN THIS INSTANCE TO JPA RATHER THAN THE CITY WOULD RETAIN FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE CCAS OPERATION.

AS, AS A JPA MEMBER, THE CITY WOULD HAVE, UH, A VOTE AT THE TABLE, BUT NOT THE FULL AUTHORITY OVER THE CCA AND ITS ACTIONS AND DECISIONS.

THERE'S ALSO A HYBRID OPTION AND THIS MODEL, A STANDALONE CCA JOINS A JOINT POWERS AUTHORITY, WHICH PROVIDES ITS MEMBERS WITH SHARED PROFESSIONAL AND FINANCIAL ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES AS WELL AS PURCHASING POWER, UM, FROM ECONOMIES OF SCALES FOR ELECTRICITY.

THERE ARE ESSENTIALLY THREE PHASES AND CREATING A CCA.

THE FIRST PHASE IS TO STUDY AND PLAN.

THIS INCLUDES COMPLETING A COMPREHENSIVE FEASIBILITY STUDY, DEVELOPING AN IMPLEMENTATION PLAN, AND ESTABLISHING AN ORDINANCE TO ALLOW THE CCA TO EXIST.

THE SECOND PHASE IS IMPLEMENTATION.

THIS PHASE WOULD INCLUDE THE STEPS TO STAND UP A CCA INCLUDING CREATING A JPA AGREEMENT, POLICIES AND COORDINATING WITH SAN DIEGO GAS AND ELECTRIC.

THE THIRD STEP IS TO SECURE THE OPERATIONAL CAPITAL NEEDED THROUGH BONDING LOANS OR OTHER FINANCIAL TOOLS.

CCAS ARE STILL NEW IN THE MUNICIPAL SETTING AND STAFF AND HAS ITS CONCERNS ABOUT FORMING OR JOINING A CCA EVEN THOUGH WE SEE THE MERITS IN DOING SO.

THE FIRST, FIRST, IT IS ON KNOWN WHETHER THERE WILL BE ENOUGH CLEAN ENERGY ON THE MARKET TO MEET THE GROWING DEMAND.

SECOND, IN ORDER TO BE ECONOMICALLY VIABLE, A CCA MUST RETAIN ABOUT 90% OF ITS CUSTOMER BASE.

FURTHERMORE, IT IS UNCLEAR AS TO WHETHER A CCA CAN TRULY PROVIDE CHEAPER ENERGY.

FINALLY, GIVEN THE NUMBER OF POTENTIAL JPAS, THE JOIN STAFF IS CONCERNED ABOUT CHOOSING THE RIGHT GPA TO JOIN.

GIVEN THESE CONCERNS, ONE OF OUR APPROACHES COULD BE TO WAIT AND WATCH AS CCAS MATURE SOME MILESTONES TO WATCH FOR COULD INCLUDE THE ABILITY TO SECURE LONGTERM ENERGY CONTRACTS, PARTICIPATION RATES, CUSTOMER SAVINGS OF SOMEWHERE BETWEEN FIVE AND 8% AND PROGRESS TOWARDS MEETING STATEWIDE RENEWABLE ENERGY TARGETS.

TODAY, STAFF IS SEEKING THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION ON WHETHER TO PROCEED WITH ONE OF THE THREE POTENTIAL OPTIONS.

SHOULD COUNSEL CHOOSE TO, UH, STUDY THE FORMATION OF A CCA AND STAFF WOULD RETURN TO A FUTURE COUNCIL MEETING WITH THE NEXT STEPS.

OPTION ONE IS WE JUST KIND OF OVERVIEWED WOULD BE TO WAIT AND SEE, UM, ALLOWING MORE TIME FOR THE CCAS MATURE MAY ACTUALLY KIND OF MITIGATE SOME OF OUR CONCERNS THAT ARE BROUGHT UP IN PREVIOUS SLIDES IS WE CAN KIND OF WATCH AND MEASURE AND SEE WHICH OPTION IS MOST ECONOMICALLY VIABLE.

IN ADDITION, THERE'S ALSO SOME VALUE WAITING, UM, GIVEN THE CURRENT ECONOMIC RECESSION OUTLOOK OPTION NUMBER TWO, UM, THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO HAS INVITED THE CITY TO JOIN THE CCA JOINT POWERS AUTHORITY, WHICH PROVIDES A LOCAL OPTION.

THIS OPTION IS CHEAPER ON THE FRONT END THAN THE NEXT OPTION.

I'M AGAIN TO DISCUSS THE GOVERNANCE MODEL WOULD PROVIDE A VOTE AND A COLLECTIVE DECISION ABOUT RATE SETTING, REVENUE ALLOCATION AND ADMINISTRATION.

THE JPM MODEL ALSO PROVIDE SOME FINANCIAL PROTECTION FOR THE CITY AS THE FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE OPERATIONS WOULD REST WITH THE JPA.

THE THIRD OPTION IS TO STUDY THE FEASIBILITY OF JOINING CAL CHOICE, A HYBRID HYBRID JPA WITH OVER FIVE YEARS OF OPERATING EXPERIENCE.

CAL CHOICE CURRENTLY HAS FIVE MEMBERS, UM, MEMBERS, CCAS AND THIS IS AND IS IN THE PROCESS OF ADMITTING SIX NEW CSPS AND THE NEXT YEAR CAL CHOICE SEEMS TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN PROVIDING BETTER PRICES FOR ITS CUSTOMERS AND PROCURING CLEAN ENERGY.

UH, THE CITY COUNCIL WOULD RETAIN SOME OF THE KEY DECISION MAKING AUTHORITY SUCH AS RATE SETTING AND HOW TO USE REVENUES WHILE THE JPA WOULD RETAIN, UH, MORE OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS SUCH AS PURCHASING AND ACQUISITIONS.

I WOULD POINT OUT THAT AS WE CONSIDER EACH OF THESE THREE OPTIONS, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO ADVOCATE FOR ONE OR,

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UH, OR ANY OTHER OPTION THAT THERE ARE SOME PROS AND CONS WE KIND OF NEED TO KEEP IN MIND.

UH, PERHAPS ONE OF THE BIGGEST, UH, THINGS TO CONSIDER IS THAT THIS STUDY WOULD TAKE A YEAR AND A HALF AND FULL OR THIS PROCESS WOULD TAKE A YEAR AND A HALF IN POOL, UM, TO LAUNCH.

SO IF WE DECIDE THAT LATER ON THAT THIS IS A GOOD IDEA, IT'S STILL GOING TO BE A YEAR AND HALF LOOKING FORWARD.

UM, SO TIME IS A BIG CONSIDERATION.

UM, THE LONGER WE WAIT, UM, OBVIOUSLY PUTS US IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION.

UM, THE COUNTY PROVIDES SOME REALLY STRONG BENEFITS.

THE COUNTIES, JPA OBVIOUSLY, UM, IT'S A LOCAL CHOICE.

SO THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO, UM, AND I BELIEVE SANTI WILL, IT WAS ALSO, UH, CONSIDERING JOINING THAT GPA, SO IT WOULD BE, HAVE A VERY LOCAL INFLUENCE ON THE DECISIONS.

UM, AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY A CHEAPER CHOICE.

SO CHOICE TWO IS CHEAPER THAN CHOICE THREE, AND IT'S A BIT MORE LOCAL WHEN WE GET THE CAL CHOICE.

UM, I WOULD ADVOCATE THAT, UH, THEY HAVE, UM, A WORKING EXPERIENCE THAT, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, WHERE OTHER JPAS AND CCAS AND THE COUNTY DON'T, UM, JUST SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T LAUNCHED YET.

UM, AND CAL CHOICE HAS A BUYING POWER BECAUSE THEY ARE GROUPED TOGETHER.

UM, SO OBVIOUSLY WE, WE CAN SAVE MONEY.

UH, OPTION NUMBER TWO, LOCAL CHOICE AND OPTION NUMBER THREE, UH, SOME PROVEN EXPERIENCE.

AND THOSE ARE KIND OF OUR, OUR CHOOSING POINTS.

IF YOU WILL.

AND WITH THAT, UM, I ACTUALLY HAVE ON OUR CALL TODAY OR ON OUR LIVE STREAM, I SHOULDN'T SAY GARY SALIBA WITH EES CONSULTING AND MARK, UH, BOSE EGAN, UH, BAYSHORE CONSULTING GROUP, UM, BOTH WHO REPRESENT, UH, SOME OF THE CHOICES UP THERE ON THE SCREEN.

AND, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO TURN THE DISCUSSION OVER TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR FEEDBACK.

THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

OH WAIT, WAIT.

IT DOESN'T COST ANYTHING.

THAT'S TRUE.

HEY DAVID, I WANTED TO ASK YOU, UM, WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE INVOLVED IN THE BAYSHORE CHOICE OR THE CAL CHOICE.

AND MARK, I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO TURN THAT OVER TO YOU SO I DON'T GET THAT INCORRECT.

MARK, ARE YOU ON THE CALL? YES, I AM.

I'M A PLEASURE TO BE HERE.

MAYOR CITY COUNCIL.

OUR CURRENT CITIES ARE LANCASTER, APPLE VALLEY, RANCHO MIRAGE, PICO RIVERA AND SENIOR CENTER.

AND THEN WE WILL ALSO BE ADDING BALDWIN PARK CONGRESS, UM, DALE.

UM, AND THEN HE PUT MY GLASSES ON HERE FOR THEIR LOGO, UH, IN PAMONA OVER THE NEXT YEAR.

I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

UM, SAUNA BEACH, UH, ABOUT SIX WEEKS AGO, AN ARTICLE PUBLISHED.

SO THEY'RE HAVING PROBLEMS DELIVERING THE PROMISED, NOT PROMISED THE PROJECTED 3% SAVINGS IN THEIR PLAN.

AND THE PROBLEM THAT THEY WERE HAVING WAS SOME THINGS BEYOND THEIR CONTROL.

SO FOR INSTANCE, THE PAC, UH, SETS THE CURRENT EXIT BEANS PER SE TO GET OUT OF THEIR SDG THING AND TO JOIN THE CCNA.

UM, WHAT IS OUR ANTICIPATION THAT THE PUC PUBLIC UTILITIES COMMISSION, WELL, UM, CONTINUED TO HAVE A LOT OF CONTROL OVER THE COST OF THESE THINGS? MR MR GLOBAL? I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION.

I, I THINK, UM, SO A LOT OF BEACH HAS REALLY BEEN A LEADER IN, IN DOING SOMETHING THAT NO OTHER CITY IN THE COUNTY HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO.

AND, AND THE FACT OF THEIR SIZE, IT SPEAKS TO THEIR AMBITION, BUT IT'S PROBABLY NOT A GOOD MODEL TO LOOK AT BECAUSE IT IS SO SMALL AND IT COULD BE A BIT OF A ONE OFF.

UM, IT'D BE INTERESTING TO HEAR HOW, UM, THE CAL CHOICE CITIES HAVE DEALT WITH THOSE EXACT SAME REGULATIONS.

AND THEN MAYBE WE COULD HEAR FROM, UM, THE EES CONSULTANTS AS WELL TO KIND OF GET THEIR PERSPECTIVE.

BECAUSE THIS IS CLEARLY NOT AN AREA OF CITY STAFF EXPERTISE.

SO I'D ACTUALLY INVITE OUR, OUR, OUR TWO GUESTS THAT ARE ON THE LINE TO MAYBE WEIGH IN ON SOME OF THAT, UM, ANALYSIS.

MMM, YES.

THIS IS MARCO SAGAN REPRESENTING CAL CHOICE.

IT'S A VERY, VERY GOOD QUESTION.

UM, CAL CHOICE IS A MEMBER OF KELSEY CA, WHICH IS A STATEWIDE ORGANIZATION INDUSTRY GROUP AND THEY, WE HAVE HIRED

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DIRECTLY LOBBYISTS TO WORK WITH THE PUC ON THE WHOLE EXIT FEE ISSUE THAT IS INCORPORATED INTO, IN BOTH BOTH INSTANCES.

THE STUDY YOU WOULD GET AT THE BEGINNING, WHICH HAS TAKEN THE MOST CREDIBLE INFORMATION DOING A PROFORMA, WHICH WOULD SHOW THE SAVINGS YOU WOULD, UH, THAT YOUR RESIDENTS BUSINESSES GET WITH THE EXIT FEE IN IT.

UM, THE EXIT FEE IN PARTICULAR E TERRITORY, SAN FRANCISCO IS THE HIGHEST AND THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THE ISSUES ARE.

UH, THE OTHER TWO HAVE BEEN, UH, QUITE HONESTLY SEE IN SAN DIEGO, GAS ELECTRIC HAS BEEN EASIER TO WORK WITH, BUT THAT IS TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT.

AND THE STRENGTH IN NUMBERS OF LOBBYING WITH THE PUC ON BEHALF OF MILLIONS OF CCA CUSTOMERS IS WHAT GIVES US THE LEVERAGE TO MAKE SURE THE EXIT FEES ARE FAIR.

THIS IS GARY SALIBA WITH EES.

AND I'LL ADD ONTO THAT.

UH, WE DID THE PEER REVIEW STUDY FOR A SALON, A BEACH.

UH, WE ALSO DID THE FEASIBILITY SAY FOR INTRANET AS CARL BATON AND DEL MAR.

AND IN THAT ANALYSIS, UH, WE DETERMINED THAT SOLANO BEACH WAS IN BOTH CASES, SO ON A BEACH WAS TOO SMALL TO GO IT ALONE.

UH, THEY HAVE FOUR OR 5,000 METERS AND THE ECONOMICS OF A CCA DICTATE YOU NEED TO BUY AND HAVE ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND METERS TO MAKE IT GO OVER ECONOMICALLY.

SO IT'S A LOT OF BEACHES TRYING TO HOOK UP WITH THE, UH, THE INSIGNIAS CARLSBAD AND DEL MAR PEOPLE AT WHICH TIME THEY WILL HAVE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND CUSTOMERS AND PROBABLY BE SAYING, UH, FINE.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, THEY'VE GOT SOME INTERIM ISSUES, UH, ON THE QUESTION OF THE EXIT FEE.

THE UTILITY COMMISSION WILL CONTINUE TO BE, UH, DETERMINE WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE.

THAT'S JUST THE WAY IT IS.

UM, BUT THE EXIT FEE IS, HAS BEEN, UH, NEGOTIATED AND UH, A BIG, UH, PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD AT THE PUC ON THIS.

THEN THE EXIT FEE IS BEING RE RE I'LL CALL IT REFORMED AT THIS POINT.

UH, PHASE ONE OF IT'S DONE PHASE TWO STILL YET TO BE DONE AND THE ECONOMICS INDICATE THAT THE PCI, IT WILL STABILIZE AS SOME OF THE LONGER TERM HIGHER RENEWABLE CONTRACTS FOR SDG EXPIRE.

SO THE PCIA IS A PROBLEM RIGHT NOW.

THE XOP IS A PROBLEM.

WE SEE IT TO BE A TEMPORARY PROBLEM NEXT YEAR OR TWO THAT SHOULD SETTLE OUT.

THAT WAS A QUESTION.

GO AHEAD.

GO AHEAD.

UM, THE MARKET DEMAND FOR RENEWABLE ENERGY.

IF ONE OF THE GOALS OF A CCAC USE RENEWABLE ENERGY BUT THERE IS NOT AS MUCH RENEWABLE ENERGY ON THE MARKET AS THERE IS DEMAND, THAT MEANS ITS PRICES WILL GO UP PER RENEWABLE ENERGY.

WHAT'S YOUR OUTLOOK ON THE SUPPLY OF RENEWABLE ENERGY BECOMING AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE WHO WANT TO JOIN THE CCNA? GOOD QUESTION.

UH, EES DID A RENEWABLE FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR THE COUNTY THAT WERE THE COUNTIES FEASIBILITY CONSULTANT ALSO.

AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE THE STUDY WITH YOU.

BUT UH, THE, THE READER'S DIGEST VERSION IS THERE'S ABOUT TWICE AS MUCH RENEWABLE POTENTIAL IN CALIFORNIA AS WILL BE NEEDED TO MEET THE RESOURCE PORTFOLIO STANDARDS.

SO WE SEE SURPLUS, UH, RENEWABLE ENERGY, UH, DOWN THE ROAD RIGHT NOW THERE'S SURPLUS AND THERE'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE SURPLUS.

AND THE OTHER GOOD NEWS IS THE PRICE HAS GONE DOWN.

UM, THE COST OF SOLAR IS UH, PROBABLY DECREASED BY A FACTOR OF FOUR IN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS.

IT'S DOWN AROUND $20 A MEGAWATT HOUR NOW AND MARKET PRICES ARE IN THE THIRTIES.

SO SOLAR'S LOOKS REAL GOOD FOR RENEWABLE PRICES ARE GOOD AND THERE SEEMS TO BE AN ABUNDANCE OF SUPPLY.

WE HEARD WE WOULD CONCUR WITH THAT.

I'M SORRY.

I'M ALSO AS TECHNOLOGY, BATTERY STORAGE, OTHER KNOWLEDGE USER THERE, THEY'RE ABLE TO SMOOTH OUT WHEN DEMAND AND SUPPLY ARE THERE.

SO WE SEE RENEWABLE AS A BULLISH AREA THAT PRICES WILL CONTINUE TO COME DOWN IN PARTICULAR SOLAR.

ALSO WITH CAL CHOICE, WE DO GO OUT AND DIRECTLY CONTRACT FOR WIND OR SOLAR WITH LONGTERM PPH, WHICH HELPS AGAINST NOT ONLY THE AVAILABILITY BUT PRICE FLUCTUATION.

I DON'T KNOW THE PROBLEM.

OH, I GOT ONE MORE QUESTION.

THIS IS PROBLEM FOR GRAHAM.

YOU KNOW, THE, UM, SOME OF THE SANDAG GRANT SEEMED TO BE PREDICATED ON HAVING A CLIMATE ACTION PLAN OR WANTING TO JOIN A CCNA OR WHAT ARE WE AT RISK OF IF WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD? UM, WELL THE S HAVING A CCA IS NOT A REQUIREMENT FOR GRANT FUNDING WITH SANDAG, UH, HAVING A, UH, CAP PROBABLY IS OR WILL BE.

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UM, AND AS YOU KNOW, WE WERE SUED OVER THE FACT THAT OUR CAP DIDN'T HAVE, UH, A DEADLINE TO JOIN US A CCA.

SO I THINK IF YOU SEPARATE THOSE TWO, I THINK AT SOME POINT WE JUST NEED AS A COUNCIL, AS A CITY, NEED TO MAKE A BUSINESS DECISION.

IS THIS A ROUTE WE WANT TO EXPLORE OR NOT AND LET THE RAMIFICATIONS HAPPEN.

I THINK THERE'S, MAYBE I'LL COME BACK TO THAT STEVE.

DANGER QUESTION.

I THINK THERE MAY BE TOO MANY UNKNOWNS, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD USE THAT AS THE FACTOR TO DETERMINE WHICH CHOICE YOU WANT TO TAKE.

BECAUSE EVEN IF YOU WERE TO SAY YES, LET'S DO THIS, DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU JOIN A CCA, YOUR YOUR FEASIBILITY STUDY.

THEY COME BACK AND SAY, UM, IT'S, THE MARGINS AREN'T THERE OR WHILE WE'RE DOING THE STUDY, UH, SAN DIEGO STANDS THEIR CC UP CCA UP AND IT FAILS MISERABLY.

SO THERE COULD BE SOME REASONS WHY HAVING A STUDY ALONE, UM, DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE JOINING A CCA ANYWAY.

SO THIS CERTAINLY IS, IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO TAKE A STEP TOWARDS AN A BIG ENVIRONMENTAL STEP, THIS IS ONE WAY TO DO THAT.

BUT YOU'RE ALSO TAKING SOME RISKS AT A TIME WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR FINANCIAL IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN THE NEXT YEAR.

YEAH.

ANOTHER THING TOO.

UH, YOU KNOW, UH, SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA IS ESPECIALLY, UM, VULNERABLE TO MORE WILDFIRES AND, UH, WHEN A BIG WILDFIRE HAPPENS AND, UH, SAY IT HAPPENS IN THE SAN DIEGO TO GAS AND ELECTRIC AREA, UH, SOMETIMES THEY'RE FINE, UM, HEAVILY FOR THESE CATASTROPHES.

THEY HAVE HELLO.

OH, DISCRETION.

UM, AND UH, HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT THEM? SERVICING THE CUSTOMERS ON THE CTA COMPARED TO THEIR OWN CUSTOMERS THAT AREN'T ON THE CCA? UM, THEY, UM, MAYBE GET THEIR POWER ON LOT FASTER AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE OUR POWER ON FOR MAYBE 36 HOURS WHERE THERE WERE SOME MAJOR CATASTROPHE WITH WILDFIRES.

WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF THEM IN THE LAST AND AROUND MR MCCLOUD.

I WOULD ASSUME THAT THE PUC PROBABLY REGULATES THAT, BUT IT'D BE INTERESTING TO HEAR FROM GARY OR MARK ON THAT PERSPECTIVE.

WE HAVE SOME REAL TIME EXAMPLES OF THAT UP NORTH.

OBVIOUSLY THEY'VE HAD PROBLEMS THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS WITH FIRES AND THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE BACK ONLINE DAY BETWEEN THE CCA CUSTOMER INVESTOR ON UTILITY.

SO THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THAT SUGGESTS BEING A CCA CUSTOMER WOULD GET YOU HOOKED UP LATER THAN ANYBODY ELSE.

AND, BUT WE, WE, WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE, WE CAN'T BEGIN UNDER THERE.

I KNOW WHERE THEY PUT THERE'S STAFF TO FIX CERTAIN AREAS, UH, AT WHAT TIME THEY HAVE THAT PRIORITY.

THEY'RE GOING TO FIX THEIR POWER LINES AND THEIR POWER POLES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

VERSUS, UH, THE PC, UC CAN'T SAY, WELL, YOU GOT TO FIX THE ONES ON THE CCA FIRST OR YOU CAN'T SAVE AGAIN.

YOU GOT TO FIX YOUR REMEMBER.

SO IF WE WERE TO FORM A CCA, OUR RESIDENTS, OUR CUSTOMERS WOULD HAVE A TO EITHER STAY WITH SDG AND E OR CHOOSE THE CCA OPTION.

SO IF YOU AND I WERE NEIGHBORS, YOU COULD BE WITH ONE PROVIDER AND I COULD BE WITH ANOTHER.

SO STG WOULD BE DELIVERING POWER TO BOTH OF US AT THE SAME TIME.

UM, SO IT, IT REALLY, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE AN IMPACT.

UM, TODAY AT LEAST, UNLESS AN ENTIRE CITY WAS ALL, ALL A HUNDRED PERCENT OF ITS CUSTOMERS WERE ALL CCA AND, AND FURTHER THE UH, CUSTOMERS ARE STILL, HEY S IN THIS CASE SAN DIEGO GAS ELECTRIC FOR THE DISTRIBUTION, THE INFRASTRUCTURE SYSTEM, THEY STILL ARE BUILT AND ARE PART OF THAT SYSTEM JUST LIKE UM, SAN DIEGO GAS ELECTRIC CUSTOMERS ARE, SO WHETHER YOU'RE CCA OR NOT, YOU ARE PAYING FOR THE DISTRIBUTION PORTION TO S.

E G.

E.

I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

THIS IS IN REGARD TO THE MAKEUP OF THE JPA AND ON YOUR SLIDE DAVE, CHOICE ONE, CHOICE TWO, CHOICE ONE, IT SAID WEIGHTED VOTE FOR THE JPA CHOICE TWO.

IT DIDN'T SAY WEIGHTED IS THE WEIGHTED VOTE OR THE WORD WEIGHTED, DOES THAT MEAN IT'S A WEIGHTED VOTE WITH REGARD TO THE JPA OR IT, AM I MISSING SOMETHING ON THAT SLIDE? NO, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

UH, THERE IS A, IN THE COUNTY'S JPA EXAMPLE AND GARY, YOU CAN JUMP IN AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT ESSENTIALLY EACH MEMBER AGENCY GETS ONE VOTE AT THE TABLE TO MAKE A DECISION.

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AND IF THERE'S LIKE A CONTENTIOUS VOTE, UH, THERE IS A WEIGHTED, UM, OPTION, IF YOU WILL.

SO, UH, I BELIEVE THAT WOULD GO TO POPULATION OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT.

FOR THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO, THEY HAVE THE WEIGHTED VOTE ON THE COUNTY JPA AGREEMENT.

THEY'VE GOTTEN AWAY FROM THE BETA WEIGHTED VOTE AND IT'S JUST, IT'S ONE, ONE ENTITY, ONE VOTE FOR EVERYTHING.

SO THE COUNTY, THE CONCEPTION WITH THE CITY'S WEIGHTED VOTE PROPOSAL AND LEFT IT OUT OF THEIR JPA AGREEMENT.

OKAY.

AND THE, AND THE HYBRID OPTION, DOES THAT NOT HAVE A WAY TO VOTE? AND THAT'S THE YEAR.

THE THIRD OPTION I THINK IS WHAT IT WAS.

WELL, I'M SORRY.

OH, WELL, I'LL TAKE A STAB AT EXPLAINING THAT AND THEN MARK, YOU CAN CLARIFY.

UM, BUT ESSENTIALLY TO BE A HYBRID, WE WOULD BE THE STANDALONE OPTION.

SO WE WOULD GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF STANDING ALONE AS AN ENTERPRISE, OUR CCA, AND THEN WE WOULD JOIN THE JPA WHO'S GOING TO HELP US WITH ALL THESE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES SUCH AS FINANCING AND PROCUREMENT.

UM, AND, AND THAT WE WOULD LIKELY HAVE SOME WEIGHT, UH, OR, OR SOME VOTE, NOT SAYING WEIGHTED VOTE, UH, BUT SOME, SOME INFLUENCE ON THE THIRD DECISIONS.

BUT ULTIMATELY, UM, WE'RE HIRING THEM TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.

MARK, CAN YOU JUST CONFIRM OR CLARIFY? UM, YES.

UNDER THE HYBRID MODEL, YOU WOULD HAVE FULL CONTROL OF THE EL CAHONE CCA ON RATE SETTING, WHAT YOU DO WITH YOUR REVENUES AND WHAT PROGRAMS YOU WANT TO PAY FOR IT AND DELIVER IT TO YOUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES.

UH, THE BACK OFFICE THAT, UH, MR. RICHARD TALKED ABOUT, YOU WOULD SHARE THE, UM, ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS OF, UM, UH, LOBBYING, CUSTOMER SERVICE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS, THE LAWYERS WHO WOULD HIRE AND THEN BE BASED ON YOUR RATES THAT WOULD DRIVE WHAT POWER IS BOUGHT IN AND AT WHAT PRICE YOU GOT FULL CONTROL.

THANK YOU.

HEY, THE CCA THAT'S RUN BY THE OTHER, UH, CITIES LIKE LANCASTER, WHAT ARE THEIR RESULTS? UM, I, I'M THE CITY MANAGER OF LANCASTER FOR 11 YEARS AT RICARD BY A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

I CAN SPEAK TO THAT IN OTHERS, BUT I'LL JUST SPEAK TO LANCASTER.

THEY'VE BEEN REALLY, REALLY GOOD IN THAT ESSENTIALLY MONEY THAT WAS GOING TO SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EDISON FOR POWER.

IN LANCASTER'S CASE, OUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES SPENT $35 MILLION SAY TO EDISON.

BY NOW THEY GET ABOUT A 3%, BUT THERE'S A $2 MILLION MARGIN EVERY YEAR THAT COMES TO THE CITY OF LANCASTER, LANCASTER CHOICE ENERGY.

AND THAT'S BEEN USED FOR ELECTRIC VEHICLE.

UM, SUBSIDY PROGRAMS, CAR SUBSIDY PROGRAMS, UM, CARBON FOOTPRINT REDUCTIONS LIKE FOR LAWN MOWERS AND SUCH, UH, BUSINESS RETENTION AND SUBSIDIES TO HELP BUSINESSES GET INTO A COMMUNITY.

SO WE MIGHT BUY DOWN THE RATE OR THEY MIGHT BUY DOWN THE RATE FOR SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR TO INCENTIVIZE BUSINESSES.

IT WAS A VERY GOOD TRANSITION FOR LAND.

CASTRO LEASE REDEVELOPMENT ENDED TO HAVE ANOTHER SOURCE THAT YOU USE TO INCENTIVIZE BUSINESSES.

AND THAT'S THE LANCASTER WITH SOME OTHER CITIES, RIGHT? I'M SORRY, THAT'S LANCASTER WITH SOME OTHER CITIES.

THAT WAS LANCASTER CAUSE LANCASTERS IT'S ITS OWN CCA, JUST LIKE THE OTHER CITIES, OTHER CITIES HAVE CHOSEN LIKE WATER HEATER PROGRAMS TO DO.

THEY CAN CHOOSE WHATEVER MAKES THE MOST SENSE.

PICO RIVERA HAS USED IT VERY MUCH FOR BUSINESS ATTRACTION.

OKAY.

I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS LANCASTER'S A CITY OF ABOUT 60,000, IF I'M REMEMBERING RIGHT.

AND YOU'RE SAYING THEY GOT ABOUT A $2 MILLION RETURN, 160,000.

UM, AND THAT'S, THAT WAS ROUGH.

IT'S SOME YEARS IT'S A LITTLE MORE, SOME, IT'S A LITTLE LESS, BUT THAT'S BEEN ON AVERAGE LAST TWO OR THREE YEARS.

OKAY.

YEAH.

AND UH, HE S SET UP, UH, SAN JOSE IN EAST BAY, THE LA VENTURA COUNTY CCAS AND ALL OF THEM HAVE DONE QUITE WELL ALSO.

UH, THERE, UH, ALL OF THEM HAVE DISCOUNTS IN HERE AROUND TWO AND THEY'RE GENERATING A DISCRETIONARY INCOME OF ANOTHER TWO OR 3% OF THEIR GROSS, WHICH THEY'RE PUTTING INTO PRO PROGRAMS. SO, UH, SO FAR SO GOOD WITH THE CCAS WITH LAST QUESTION.

WITH REGARD TO THE POTENTIAL SAVINGS, ARE THERE ANY STRINGS ATTACHED TO WHERE THAT FUNDING IS USED OR IS THAT JUST THE OVERALL SAVINGS FOR THE CITY? YEAH, YOU CAN'T SPEND IT ON FIRETRUCKS, BUT ANYTHING THAT'S ENERGY RELATED YOU CAN SPEND IT ON.

UM, YEAH, I, I WOULD CONCUR WITH THAT.

THERE ARE SOME CITY ATTORNEYS THAT BELIEVE IT COULD ACTUALLY BE USED FOR GENERAL FUND, BUT MOST CCAS AND

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US PARTICULAR, UH, RECOMMENDED CHOOSE FOR ENERGY RELATED ACTIVITIES.

BUSINESS RETENTION DOES BECOME AN ENERGY RELATED ACTIVITY, HOWEVER, AND BUSINESS ATTRACTION.

SO IF WE WANTED TO BUY SOLAR PANELS FOR SAY BUILDINGS, THAT THAT WOULD BE A, A JUSTIFIABLE PURCHASE THAT WOULD EASILY BE A JUSTIFIABLE PURCHASE.

YES.

OR MR. ORTIZ, IF YOU WANTED TO SUBSIDIZE SOLAR PANELS ON YOUR CUSS ON OUR CUSTOMERS, THAT'S AN AREA YOU COULD EXPAND IT BEYOND JUST CITY ACTIVITY.

YOU COULD DO IT FOR BUSINESSES TOO, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, YEAH.

YEAH.

THE TYPICAL USES FOR THE SURPLUS FUNDS ARE ADDITIONAL RATE REDUCTIONS, UH, DISABLED, UH, BENEFITS OF SOME SORT OR SUBSIDIES FOR LOW INCOMES AND THE NEW PROGRAMS, UH, LOCAL SOLAR, UH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IF THERE'S A SAVINGS, UM, WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND LISTEN TO WE, I THINK WE HAVE A PUBLIC SPEAKER ON THIS, RIGHT? WE DO.

MR MAYOR.

UM, OUR MS UM, CORTEZ'S COMPUTER'S ACTING UP SO I'M GOING TO ACT AS THE CITY CLERK RIGHT NOW AND I'LL READ, THEY'LL HAVE A COMMENT AND IF SHE'S NOT BACK UP I WILL, UM, IF THERE'S A VOTE TO BE TAKEN, I'LL, I'LL BE CALLING FOR THAT.

UM, SO WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC SPEAK OR COMMENT ON THIS.

I'LL JUST READ THAT AS IT'S COME IN.

HONORABLE MAYOR AND OUTGOING CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UM, THIS IS, OH BY THE WAY, THIS IS FROM JOE BRITTON PUBLIC AFFAIRS MANAGER FOR SDG.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE REGARDING THE STUDY OF THE FORMATION OF A COMMUNITY CHOICE AGGREGATION PROGRAM IN THE CITY OF ELCA.

STG APPRECIATES THE LONG STANDING COLLABORATION WE HAVE BUILT WITH THE CITY AND LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING OUR PARTNERSHIP INTO THE FUTURE AS MUNICIPALITIES CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CCA PROGRAMS. CLOSE ALIGNMENT WITH SDG AND E WILL BE CRITICAL.

SDG RESPECTS OUR CUSTOMER'S RIGHTS TO CHOOSE THE ENERGY PROVIDER OR PROGRAM THAT BEST FITS THEIR NEEDS.

WHICHEVER PATH THE CITY CHOOSES.

SDG WILL CONTINUE TO OPERATE A SAFE AND RELIABLE ELECTRIC GRID AND WILL CONTINUE TO HANDLE CUSTOMER BILLING AND CORE PROGRAMS. GIVEN THE COMPLEXITIES OF OUR INDUSTRY AND THE ENERGY MARKETING AND TRADING SPACE, WE RECOGNIZE THE NEED TO SHARE SOME OF THE KNOWLEDGE WE HAVE GAINED.

THAT IS WHY WE RECENTLY ENGAGED CITY STAFF FROM AROUND THE REGION, INCLUDING STAFF FROM THE SCENE IN OKLAHOMA TO PARTICIPATE IN WORKSHOPS WHERE WE SHARE SHARED INFORMATION AND TOOLS AND ENERGY PROCUREMENT WITH THE GOAL OF SUPPORTING THE SUCCESS OF CUSTOMER CHOICE DRIVEN PROGRAMS. SHOULD YOU DECIDE TO PURSUE THAT PATH, WE SUPPORT YOUR JOURNEY AND IT WILL BE THERE FOR YOUR STAFF AND OUR SHARED CUSTOMERS.

EITHER WAY, REGARDLESS OF YOUR ENERGY PROCUREMENT PATH, THE CDL, COLIN'S BIGGEST SOURCE OF EMISSIONS IS CARS AND TRUCKS.

WHETHER YOU CARE ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE OR ABOUT KIDS WITH ASTHMA OR SAVING MONEY, THE BIGGEST BANG FOR OUR COLLECTIVE BUCK IS TO ELECTRIFY THE TRANSPORTATION SECTOR.

THAT IS WHY STG IS LOOKING TO PARTNER WITH CITIES TO EXPAND OUR POWER, YOUR DRIVE PROGRAM TO BUILD A LARGE VEHICLE CHARGING INFRASTRUCTURE THROUGHOUT THE REGION.

SDG IS COMMITTED TO MAINTAINING A STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.

REGARDLESS OF THE CHOICE YOU MAKE WITH RESPECT TO ENERGY PROCUREMENT AND OFFER OUR SUPPORT AND RESOURCES.

SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO MOVE AHEAD WITH A FEASIBILITY STUDY? WE HAVE TWO CRITICAL FACILITIES IN THE CITY AND HUNDREDS OF EMPLOYEES AND THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS WHO CALL IT ALCOHOL AND HOME AND LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH YOU.

THAT CONCLUDES THE PUBLIC.

THANK YOU GRAHAM.

GRAHAM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

UM, IS THE CITY TAKING ANY KIND OF A STANCE ON WHAT THEY'RE RECOMMENDING? IT'S A PRETTY COMPLICATED ISSUE.

UM, YOU HAVE TO GROW KIND OF TRYING TO DIGEST A LOT OF NEW LANGUAGE.

FOR ME AT LEAST PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THE CITY IS RECOMMENDING.

WELL, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, MR MAYOR, WE DON'T HAVE A STRONG RECOMMENDATION ON THIS.

I CAN, AS A STAFF MEMBER, I CAN SEE THE VALUE OF SORT OF WAITING AND SEEING WHAT HAPPENS.

I THINK THE MODEL OF SALON BEACH IS NOT ENOUGH FOR STAFF TO SAY, YEAH, THAT'S THE CHOICE.

WE SHOULD MAKE THE CHALLENGE THOUGH IN WAITING FOR ONE OF THE LOCAL CCAS TO STAND UP IS THAT WE KNOW THAT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY TAKES A WHILE AND ONCE THE APPLICATION IS IN, IT TAKES THE PUC ABOUT A YEAR TO PROCESS THAT.

SO WE'RE A YEAR AND A HALF OUT ALREADY.

SO IF THE COUNCIL TODAY DECIDED ALL IT, WE'RE ALL IN REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE FEASIBILITY STUDY SAYS, YOU CANNOT HAVE AN OFFERED CCA TO YOUR RESIDENTS UNTIL JANUARY 1ST, 2022.

THAT'S JUST THE REALITY.

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SO, UM, MOST LIKELY SO, SO THE, WE SEE THE VALUE IN WAITING, BUT THEY'RE ALL ALSO SOME VALUE IN DOING A STUDY NOW JUST SO YOU HAVE IT READY, POISED TO GO.

AND IF YOU WANT TO PULL THE TRIGGER, YOU CAN PULL THE TRIGGER.

IT SAVES YOU A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.

UM, THAT'S A, THAT'S A PHILOSOPHICAL QUESTION FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.

IT'S PROBABLY NOT ONE WHERE WE'RE STAFF HAS STRONG PASSION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.

IF THE COUNCIL WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME SORT OF A, UM, A STUDY, THEN YOUR OTHER QUESTION BECOMES, DO YOU WANT TO STAY LOCALLY? DO YOU WANT TO PLAY LOCALLY WITH, WITH THE COUNTY AND MAYBE SOME OTHER JURISDICTIONS IN THE COUNTY THAT HOPEFULLY ARE SORT OF LIKEMINDED WITH WHAT OUR GOALS WOULD BE? OR DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A PROVEN ENTITY, UM, SUCH AS CAL CHOICE AND GO WITH THEM? UH, THAT ONE OF THE CONS OF COUCH CHOICE IS THAT THEY ARE A ACCOUNT.

SO THE CALIFORNIA EDISON, UM, CUSTOMERS, NOW THE END OF THE DAY, ELECTRICITY IS ELECTRICITY.

PROTONS AND NEUTRONS ARE NEUTRONS AND PROTONS, AND IT'S ALL ON A GRID.

UM, AND MAYBE I'M JUST, UH, TOO MUCH SCENT, UH, SIMPLIFYING REALLY WHAT ELECTRICITY IS.

BUT, UM, WE DON'T HAVE THIS LOCAL PARTNER THAT WE CAN LOOK TO AND SAY, ABSOLUTELY, THIS IS A NO BRAINER.

SO, UM, IT REALLY BECOMES MORE OF A PHILOSOPHICAL IN TERMS OF SHOWING THE PUBLIC, UM, THE, YOUR INTENT MAYBE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE STUDY HAS SOME VALUE.

UM, AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

GREG, WHAT'S THE, A MAJOR DOWNSIDE, ESPECIALLY ECONOMICALLY OF A WAIT AND SEE APPROACH? THE DOWNSIDE IS IF IT LOOKS LIKE THERE ARE SOME REAL GOOD OPPORTUNITIES TO SAVE, SAVE CUSTOMERS MONEY, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS, YOU'RE GOING TO BE SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR, A YEAR AND A HALF AWAY FROM BEING ABLE TO OFFER THOSE PROGRAMS. SO THAT'S THE DOWNSIDE.

DO YOU, DO YOU, UH, ANTICIPATE THAT WE'RE GOING TO FIND OURSELVES FAR BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL? IF WE, UH, IF WE TAKE A WAIT AND SEE APPROACH? NO, I DON'T EITHER.

I MEAN IT'S NOT THAT MUCH TIME.

IT'S STILL A NEW PROGRAM AND UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE TAKE THE WAIT AND SEE, WE'LL SEE HOW OTHER AGENCIES DO WITH ENOUGH AND I WAS A MINUTE AT A LATER TIME JOIN ONE OF THEM OR START HER OWN OR WHATEVER.

SORRY.

THIS IS DAVE.

IF I COULD INTERJECT REAL QUICKLY, THE FEASIBILITY STUDY, THE PURPOSE OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY IS TO EVALUATE WHETHER IT'S A GOOD IDEA OR NOT OKAY.

TO PROCEED.

SO THE FEASIBILITY STUDY COULD COME BACK AND SAY IT'S A BAD IDEA.

DON'T PROCEED.

UM, JUST TO THROW THAT LAST STUDY THAT WOULD, UM, COST US, WHEN WE SAY $60,000, WELL, YOU HAVE TWO OPTIONS.

IF WE WERE TO GO THE LOCAL APPROACH, WE HAVE A QUOTE FROM EES AND THEY'VE DONE ALL THE STUDIES, THIS COUNTY, ANY ENTITY IN THIS COUNTY, SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND MOVING FORWARD WITH THEM.

THEY KNOW THIS MARKET REALLY WELL.

THIS IS THE COUNTY GPA.

IF WE WANTED TO CONSIDER, UM, STUDYING THAT AS AN OPTION.

UM, AND THAT'S ABOUT ABOUT $50,000 TO DO THE INITIAL STUDY.

UM, IF WE WERE INTERESTED IN THE COUCH CHOICE MODEL, UH, THEY WORK WITH, UH, BAYSHORE CONSULTING TO ACTUALLY OPERATE THAT.

AND SO WE WOULD WORK WITH THAT ENTITY TO DO OUR FEASIBILITY STUDY AND THAT $63,000 TO DO THE INITIAL STUDY.

HOWEVER, UH, CONSIDERING THE STATE OF THE ECONOMY AND ALCOHOL, AND IT LOOKS PRETTY GRIM RIGHT NOW.

AND BECAUSE OF THE 19 AND, UH, I SEE THAT SALES TAXES ARE BIG AND NODES DIED.

UM, PROPERTY TAXES, IT'D BECOME DELINQUENT.

UH, WE MAY HAVE QUITE A FEW ECONOMIC HURDLES TO COME OVER.

PENSION COSTS, IRAQ, UH, JUST NORMALLY, OH, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO SAVE THE DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE AND NOT DO THE STUDY RIGHT NOW TO SEE HOW OUR ECONOMIC SITUATION IS.

AND THE NEXT ANSWER HERE AND THEN IF WE COME OUT OF THIS OUR RIGHT.

YEP.

AND MONEY WILL END.

GREAT.

SO BOB, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SUGGESTING THE WAIT AND SEE APPROACH.

ABSOLUTELY.

HOW DO YOU ALL FEEL ABOUT THAT? I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT.

I LIKE BOB'S SUGGESTION.

OKAY.

UH, YEAH, THIS IS GARY.

I LIKED BOB AND ALSO SOUNDS LIKE A FORMAT CONSENSUS.

SO YEAH, I AGREE.

MOVE THAT WE JUST WAIT AND SEE AND

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UH, UH, MOVE FORWARD, UH, AT THE TIME THAT, UH, ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE FOR US TO SPEND THE FUNDS TO DO THE STUDY OR WHATEVER WE'RE GOING TO DO.

IS THERE A SECOND, SECOND OR WE'VE GOT A MOTION A SECOND.

MR MAYOR, HOW DO YOU VOTE? YES.

UH, DEPUTY MAYOR ORTIZ.

I VOTE YES.

CITY COUNCIL MEMBER GOEBEL.

YES.

COUNCILMEMBER KENDRICK.

YEAH.

THE COUNCIL MELBOURNE MCKELLEN.

YES.

THE MOTION CARRIES.

I WANT TO THANK DAVE AND MARK AND ALL OF OUR GUESTS THAT HELPED US COME TO THIS DECISION WAS VERY COMPLICATED ISSUE, BUT I THINK HE MADE IT UNDERSTANDABLE.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

WELCOME.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, SIR.

OKAY, THE LAST SIMILAR RESTRICTED OR REPORT, DON'T WE JUST DID THAT? SORRY, I APOLOGIZE.

ALL WE'RE ON COMMISSION REPORTS.

THERE ARE NO COMMISSIONER REPORTS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

ITEM 10

[10. Council Activity Report]

IS MY ACTIVITY REPORT IS ASKED TO REPORT.

THERE WAS NO LEGISLATIVE REPORT ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

MR MAYOR THERE? NO, YOU DID NOT MISS ANYTHING, BUT THERE IS A PUBLIC COMMENT ON AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10, YOUR ACTIVITIES REPORT.

OH GREAT.

I WILL READ IT THAT AT THIS TIME, UH, THIS PUBLIC COMMENT COMES TO UM, THE CITY COUNCIL FROM MR. DAVID CHENOWITH.

UM, HE SAYS, I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT OUR COUNCIL MEMBER ACTIVITY REPORTS COMPLY WITH GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION FIVE THREE TWO THREE TWO.

DOT.

THREE PARAGRAPH D GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION FIVE THREE TWO, 3.3 PARAGRAPH D REQUIRES MEMBERS OF THE LEGISLATIVE BODY PROVIDED BRIEF REPORTS ON MEETINGS ATTENDED AT THE EXPENSE OF LOCAL AGENCIES AT THE NEXT REGULAR MEETING.

OF THE LEGISLATIVE BODY.

AND THAT MEANS A BRIEF REPORT ON EACH MEMBER AT EACH MEETING.

THE COUNCIL MEMBER ATTENDED AT THE EXPENSE OF THE CITY OF ELK.

OH NO, NOT A REPORT.

BRIEFLY LISTENING TO MEETINGS.

THE COUNCIL MEMBER ATTENDS, ATTENDED LISTING THE MEETING NAME, TIME AND DATE IS NOT A REPORT ON THE MEETING.

QUESTION FOR MAYOR WELLS.

DOES OUR CITY COUNCIL LACK TRANSPARENCY WHEN RE REPORTING THEIR ACTIVITIES AT MEETINGS WE ARE PAYING THEM TO ATTEND? THAT'S QUESTION ONE.

WHEN WILL THE ALCOHOL AND CITY COUNCIL BECOME COMPLIANT WITH STATE LAW WHEN SUBMITTING COUNCIL MEMBER ACTIVITY REPORTS? FIRST OFF, I DON'T REMEMBER BEING PAID BY THE CITY TO GO TO, TO ATTEND A MEETING, BUT A COUNTY COUNSELOR.

DO WE THINK THAT WE ARE, UH, VIOLATING THE LIE WITH THE WAY WE WOULD DO THIS? OREGON, WHAT DO YOU SAY? YOU KNOW, THE, THE, UH, THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THAT WAS BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL RECEIVES A VEHICLE ALLOWANCE AND REIMBURSEMENT ESSENTIALLY FOR ATTENDING THE MEETING BY GETTING THE ALLOWANCE.

UM, YOU DO GET YOUR SALARIES AS PART OF, UH, BEING COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND THE INTENT IS TO PROVIDE SOME TRANSPARENCY AS MR. CHEN CHENOWITH SAID.

UH, AS FAR AS WHAT THOSE ACTIVITIES ARE THAT JUSTIFY THE ALLOWANCE, THE FACT THAT YOU DO PUT DOWN WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO THE MEETINGS, UH, DOES DESCRIBE WHY YOU WERE, WHAT JUSTIFICATION THERE IS FOR THE VEHICLE ALLOWANCE AND THE OTHER, THE SALARY YOU'RE GETTING BECAUSE IT PAYS FOR YOUR TIME AWAY.

COULD IT BE BETTER? PERHAPS IT COULD BE BETTER, BUT IT ALSO COULD BE SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE SIMPLY FILE WITH A REPORT THAT'S AVAILABLE FROM, UH, FROM THE PUBLIC, BUT WE CAN LOOK INTO THIS AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING DIFFERENT.

I THINK, UM, I KNOW I'VE, IT WAS HERE WHEN WE STARTED THIS PRO PROGRAM AND, UM, I KNOW THAT AT THE TIME I FELT COMFORTABLE THAT IT WAS MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE LAW.

UM, BUT I'LL TAKE A LOOK AT IT FOR, YEAH.

I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO, TO GO INTO IT TO A GREATER DEGREE, BUT, UH, I ALSO DON'T NEED THAT HASH THINGS OUT THAT DON'T NEED TO BE HASHED OUT.

SO I LIKE SOME, UH, UM, SOME OF YOUR THOUGHTS AND SOME DIRECTION ON THIS.

UM, I'M GOING TO CONTINUE THAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, THERE WAS NO LEGISLATIVE REPORT ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

WE ARE NOW AT A THREE REPORT FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCIL MEMBER KIM KENDRICK AS REPORTED COUNCIL MEMBER MCCALL AS REPORTED.

COUNCIL MEMBER GOEBEL HAS REPORTED DEPUTY MAYOR PHIL ORTIZ AS REPORTED.

THERE ARE NO JOINT COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS TODAY.

THERE ARE NO GENERAL INFORMATION ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION OR FIRST OR SECOND READING OF ORDINANCES.

WE

[16. Closed Session - Public Employee Performance Evaluation: City Manager]

ARE NOW AT CLOSE SESSION.

THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL RECITE

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THE TITLE AND LEAD US INTO RECESS FOR THAT CLOSED SESSION.

C ATTORNEY.

UM, THE TENURE AGENDA CHANGED SAYS NO NITROUS TO PROCEED.

SO PASS THROUGH THAT.

THAT BRINGS US THEN TO A GERMAN, THE ADJOURNED REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE ALCOHOL AND CITY COUNCIL ALCOHOL HOUSING AUTHORITY HELD HIS 20TH DAY OF APRIL, 2020 IS ADJOURN TILL TUESDAY, MAY 12TH, 2020 AT 3:00 PM THANKS EVERYBODY.

THANKS FOR TUNING IN AND REMEMBER THAT YOU CAN REACH ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THE MAYOR THROUGH, UM, THE ALCOHOL'S WEBSITE THROUGH EMAIL.

GLAD THEY HEAR FROM YOU AND THEN HAVE DIALOGUE.

THANK YOU.