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ALL RIGHT.UH, BEFORE I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER,
[Call to Order]
I WOULD LIKE THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT PURSUANT TO GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER AND TWO NINE DASH TWO ZERO AND IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF MAY ATTEND THE MEETING TELEPHONICALLY.FURTHER ORDERS FROM THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY HEALTH OFFICE PREVENT PERSONS OTHER THAN CITY OFFICIALS AND ESSENTIAL EMPLOYEES TO BE PHYSICALLY PRESENT.
THE PUBLIC MAY VIEW THIS MEETING, SUBMIT COMMENTS ON AN ITEM ON THIS AGENDA OR SUBMIT A PUBLIC COMMENT BY GOING TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE@WWW.CITY OF EL CAHONE DOT U S FORWARD SLASH VIDEO STREAMING PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE ACCEPTED UP TO THE CONCLUSION OF THE VOTE OF EACH ITEM.
COMMENTS WILL BE LIMITED TO 300 WORDS AND WILL BE ENTERED INTO THE OFFICIAL COMMISSION MEETING RECORD.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE BEING ACCEPTED NOW.
PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR COMMENTS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
AT THIS POINT, LET'S GO AHEAD.
LET'S GO AND DO A FLIGHT SALUTE AND THEN WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
AT THIS POINT WE WILL PROCEED WITH ROLL CALL PRESENT.
ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT.
WELCOME TO THE
THE ONLY PART WE GOT WAS THE VERY FIRST FEW WORDS APPEALS MUST BE MADE.
I THINK WE'RE FIXING THE GLITCH HERE.
APPEALS A FINAL DECISIONS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MADE THIS EVENING MUST BE FILED ON WRITING WITH THE CITY CLERK BEFORE 5:00 PM ON MONDAY, MAY, 2020 AND MUST INCLUDE THE PAYMENT OF A FILING FEE PURSUANT TO CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION ONE ONE FOUR DASH SEVEN NINE A COMMISSIONER WHO HAS RECEIVED EVIDENCE RELATED TO A MATTER BEFORE THE COMMITTEE PLANNING COMMISSION OTHER THAN AN UNESCORTED VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE SUCH INFORMATION AT THE HEARING.
[Public Comment]
TIME WE WILL TAKE COMMENTS FOR ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ON ANY ITEM OF BUSINESS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE COMMISSION THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA UNDER STATE LAW AND NO ACTION CAN BE TAKEN OR BROUGHT FORWARD UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT EXCEPT TO REFER TO STAFF OR ADMINISTRATION OR PLACE IT ON FUTURE AGENDA.IS THERE ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD ON A PUBLIC COMMENT? ARE THEY NON-AGENDA? ARE THEY RELATED TO AN ITEM AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE DO HAVE SOME PUBLIC COMMENT.
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DID THE MEETING START? THERE'S NO VOLUME.WHY IS THERE NO AUDIO? THAT'S FUN.
NO SOCIAL DISTANCING AND NO MASS.
YOU'RE ALL FOLLOWING THE CDC AND HEALTH DEPARTMENT GUIDELINES.
NO VOLUME AND NO SOCIAL DISTANCING LANE.
AND THE LAST ONE IS RELATED TO AN ITEM, SO THAT'S IT FOR SOCIAL PUBLIC COMMENT.
[Consent Agenda]
AT THIS TIME WE WILL GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.A SINGLE MOTION WILL COVER ALL THE CONSENT ON THE CALENDAR.
ANY PLANNING COMMISSIONERS WISH TO PULL A CONSENT ITEM? NOPE.
AT THIS TIME I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE MINUTES.
THAT MOTION IS SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER.
I THINK THAT WAS ANY, UH, ANY NOS.
NEXT WE'RE GOING TO GO TO AGENDA
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ITEM NUMBER TWO IS RYNETTE WIRELESS COMMUNICATION FACILITY, A FREESTANDING LIGHT POLES AND A WIRELESS FACILITY.OKAY, SO WE ARE GOING TO SCREEN SHARE THE PRESENTATION NOW FOR THE RUN AT WIRELESS PROJECT.
YEAH, A FEW MOMENTS WHERE I TRANSITIONED.
SO IT'S MELISSA DIVINE WITH THE CITY OF ALKA HOME.
THERE ARE TWO PRESENT ON THE RUNOUT WIRELESS PROJECT.
UM, THIS PROJECT IS BEING PROPOSED BY DEPRAVITY INC ON BEHALF OF A P.
THE MILE TECHNICAL DETAILS WORK FOR HERE.
THIS PROJECT IS A NEW WIRELESS COMMUNICATION FACILITY.
CONSISTS OF TWO 80 FOOT LIGHT POLES WITH ATTACHED AND TENANTS A NEW EQUIPMENT, A CAT LIKE HADN'T, IT IS PROPOSED AS WELL AS THEY REFER ANY 16 TRASH ENCLOSURE.
THERE ARE THESE ADDITIONALLY SOME BORING FOR CABLING TO CONNECT THE POLES TO THE ELECTRICAL METERS AND WHILE IT'S NOT BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I WILL NOTE HERE THAT THE CITY WILL BE CONSIDERING A LEASE AGREEMENT FOR THIS FACILITY AS PART OF THEIR DECISION.
THE PROJECT SITE IS RYNETTE PARK, WHICH IS LOCATED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK LAND USE DESIGNATION AND THE GENERAL PLAN, IT IS ALSO ZONE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL RSS.
THE APPLICATION IS FOR A SPECIFIC PLAN WHICH IS NEEDED TO PERMIT A WIRELESS COMMUNICATION FACILITY THAT EXCEEDS THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT LIMITS.
THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT LIMIT FOR A FREESTANDING COMMUNICATION FACILITY IS 70 FEET AND THE TWO LIGHT POLES, WHICH WE HAD A MAXIMUM OF 80 FEET, THEY JUST INSIGHT AS DEVELOPED AS A PARK AND RECREATION CENTER.
THERE ARE RECREATION BUILDINGS THAT ARE USED FOR OUR CLUB RECREATIONAL CLASSES AND ACTIVITIES AND MAJORITY OF THE SITE IS UM, USED AS A MULTIPURPOSE FIELD AND THERE ARE OTHER AMENITIES INCLUDING A PLAYGROUND, ESCAPE PARK, BASKETBALL AS WELL AS PICNIC AREAS.
THEY SHOWS AN AERIAL IMAGE OF THE
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SUBJECT SITE OUTLINED IN WHITE.YOU CAN SEE THEM ALL TYPE PURPOSE SPORTS FIELDS THERE TOWARDS THE CENTER OF YOUR SCREEN WHERE THE POLES WOULD BE LOCATED.
THE SITE IS IN A PREDOMINANTLY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, ALTHOUGH THERE IS A SCHOOL THAT'S LOCATED THAT ONLY PRESS THE INTERSECTION.
I'VE RUN AT AN EMERALD AVENUE I HAE ACADEMY.
THIS IS A SITE PLAN DEPICTING THE LOCATION OF THE POLE.
UM, I HAVE CIRCLED THEM HERE IN BREAD.
EACH POLE WOULD BE SETBACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE ALONG BURNETT AVENUE, UH, FOR APPROXIMATELY 20 FEET.
AND THE PANEL ANTENNAS ATTACHED WOULD, UM, WOULD ALSO BE SET BACK A MINIMUM OF 20 FEET, SO THEY'D BE SET BACK, UM, A BIT OF A DISTANCE FROM LUNA AVENUE.
UH, THE ONE HOLE THAT YOU SEE THAT AS WESTERLY, UM, IS THE, UM, POLE THAT WILL CONTAIN THE 12TH ATTACHED PANEL ANTENNA FROM AP AND T THE APPLICANT AND THERE WOULD BE SPACE FOR ADDITIONAL PROVIDERS TO VOTE CO-LOCATED.
THE AREA THAT'S IDENTIFIED IN THE RED SQUARE IS THE PROPOSED EQUIPMENT.
A CABINET LOCATED NEAR THE WEST SIDE RECREATION ROOM, WHICH IS ALSO LOCATED NEAR THE TRASH ENCLOSURE IS, ARE THE EXTERIOR ELEVATIONS DEPICTING THE TWO POLES.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE IF THERE ARE THE 12TH PANEL ANTENNAS PROPOSED AS WELL AS SPACE FOR OTHER TERRIERS, UM, ALL THE CABLING WOULD BE CONTAINED WITHIN THE CENTER OF EACH POLE.
AND UM, AT 80 FEET IN HEIGHT THERE PROXIMATELY AROUND THE HEIGHT OF THE EXISTING PALM TREES LOCATED THE RECREATION CENTER.
THIS IS A PHOTO SIMULATION OR A VIEW AS IF YOU WERE STANDING NEAR THE RECREATION CENTER AND LOOKING JUST ABOUT NORTHEAST OUT ACROSS THE FIELD TO WHERE THE TWO POLES WOULD BE LOCATED.
AND THIS IS A VIEW LOOKING EAST DOWN RONETTE AVENUE.
UM, THE CLOSEST WAY, THE CLOSEST STREET TO WHERE THE TWO POLES WOULD BE LOCATED.
YOU CAN SEE THE HEIGHT OF THE POLES AND HOW THEY WOULD VISUALLY APPEAR AT THIS PROJECT, WOULD IT BE APPROVED? ONE INSTALLED, THIS DEPICTS A COVERAGE MAP, UM, WITH OUT THE FACILITY AND THE FIRST IMAGE ON THE LEFT AND UM, AFTER IF THE FACILITY WERE TO BE INSTALLED ON THE RIGHT.
SO THERE IS AN
THERE ARE SOME COVERAGE GAPS IN THIS AREA.
SO THIS AREAS NOT COMPLETELY SERVED BY WIRELESS COVERAGE AND THOSE GAPS WOULD BE LARGELY REMEDIED BY THE INSTALLATION OF THIS FACILITY.
THIS IS A LIGHTING EXHIBIT THAT SHOWS, UM, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO READ.
SO I'LL, I'LL DESCRIBE IT TO YOU.
IT SHOWS US ONE AND TWO, THE LOCATION OF THE TWO PROPOSED LIGHTING POLES AND THE LIGHTING MANUFACTURER LOOKED AT HOW LIGHT, UM, WOULD EMANATE FROM THESE POLES AND ALONG THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY LINE, UM, NEAR THE POLLS, THE MAXIMUM WOULD BE THE AREA THAT'S SHOWN IS IN GREEN AND THAT'S LESS THAN 0.5 FOOT CANDLES, WHICH IS ABOUT WHAT YOU MIGHT EXPERIENCE FROM HAVING A CITY STREET LIGHT, UM, LOCATED NEAR YOUR HOME.
THE NEXT EXHIBIT IS SHOWS THE POTENTIAL GLARE FROM THE LIGHTS WHEN THEY ARE TURNED ON.
UM, THE AREA OF MOST GLARE IS THE RED AND ORANGE, WHICH IS CONTAINED WITHIN THE RECREATION CENTER AND THE LIGHTER YELLOW AND THE GREEN, UM, IS LESS THAN $7,510.
UM, THERE'S NO ADOPTED STANDARD OR THRESHOLD FOR GLARE.
HOWEVER, THE, UM, THE STANDARD OF $7,510, UM, HAS BEEN REFERENCED BY THE BRITISH INSTITUTE OF LIGHTING ENGINEERS.
I'VE SEEN COMPATIBLE WITH RESIDENTIAL.
IN ADDITION TO THESE EXHIBITS, UM, THE APPLICANT WILL BE FINE TUNING THE LIGHTING AS KIND OF A FINAL STEP OF THE INSTALLATION OF COURSES, UM, WELCOMING PARTS FROM THE CITY AND NEIGHBORS POTENTIALLY INTO THAT PROCESS TO HELP ENSURE THAT THERE'S NO GLARE ON JASON PROPERTIES.
SO TO SUMMARIZE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE, WE'RE LIKE HE HAD A SPECIFIC PLAN FOR THE TWO 80 FOOT LIGHT POLES WITH ATTACHED PANEL ANTENNAS.
THEY BEEN PLACED TOWARDS THE INTERIOR OF THE PARK, MINIMIZE VISUAL IMPACTS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THESE TYPES OF LIGHT POLES ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU MIGHT FIND IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS IN ALPHA HOUNDS TO PROVIDE FIELDS LIGHTING FOR RECREATIONAL USE DURING THE EVENING HOURS.
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FOR, UM, A COMBINATION OF THE WIRELESS SIGNAL STRENGTH THAT'S NEEDED AND ALSO FORSO THE HIGHER A FACILITY IS WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIGHTING, THE EASIER IT IS TO DIRECT THAT LIGHTING DOWN TO WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE AND AVOID, UM, THE LIGHT GLARING OR SEWING ONTO OTHER PROPERTIES.
THAT 80 FEET IS WHAT WE DETERMINED BASED ON WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT AS WELL AS THE LIGHTING MANUFACTURER.
AND THEN LASTLY, THIS ADDITIONAL LIGHTING WILL INCREASE THE USAGE OF THE PARK IN THE EVENING HOURS.
WHEN THE APPLICANT CAME TO THE CITY TO PROPOSE POTENTIAL WIRELESS FACILITY AND WE WERE LOOKING AT OPTIONS.
ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT CAME UP AND SPEAKING WITH RECREATION STAFF HAS THE NEED FOR LIGHTED FIELDS IN THE EVENING HOURS FOR YOUTH SOCCER AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE THINK THIS COULD BE A BENEFICIAL, UM, ADDITIONAL LIGHTING TO INCREASE THE POSITIVE USAGE OF THE PARK.
SOME OF THE RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS, ALL OF, THERE ARE SEVERAL IN THE DRAFT RESOLUTION ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA REPORT IS THAT THE LIGHTING HAS TO BE TURNED OFF AT 9:00 PM SERVICES TO ENSURE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND NUTRITIVE OR NOT IMPACTING NEIGHBORS, UM, WITH ACTIVITY WITH A LIGHTING REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES ARE ALSO LIMITED TO DAYTIME HOURS.
UM, AND WE HAVE STANDARDS AS WELL TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE.
UH, SETH HAS IDENTIFIED A SEQUENT EXEMPTION FOR THE PROJECT, UM, UNDER, UH, SECTION ONE FIVE THREE ZERO THREE.
THIS IS A C QUIET ASSUMPTION THAT COVERS THE CONSTRUCTION OF SMALL FACILITIES.
THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE TWO RIGHT POLES AS WELL AS THE EQUIPMENT CABINETS ARE VERY MINOR IN SCOPE OF CONSTRUCTION.
IN ORDER TO APPROVE A SPECIFIC PLAN, THERE'S TWO FINDINGS THAT MUST BE MADE.
ONE IS THAT THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC PLAN SERVES THE PUBLIC INTEREST AND SECONDARILY THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC PLAN A SYSTEMATICALLY IMPLEMENT THE CITY'S GENERAL PLAN.
SO WE KNOW THAT WIRELESS COVERAGE HAS BECOME INCREASINGLY IMPORTANT TO MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY, UM, AS THEY RELY ON THAT FOR THEIR PRIMARY NEEDS OF COMMUNICATION BUT ALSO TO OUR EMERGENCY RESPONDERS AND THOSE WHO ARE RELYING ON THAT SERVICE TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO, UH, IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC'S INTEREST OF MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE COVERAGE AS WELL AS AN IMPLEMENTING GENERAL PLAN POLICIES RELATED TO IMPROVING OUR REGIONAL SERVICES REGIONAL SERVICE SUCH AS WIRELESS SERVICES, AS WELL AS THE ENHANCEMENT OF PROVIDING LIGHTING TO EXTEND THE HOURS OF THE MULTIPURPOSE FIELD, UH, WHICH WILL INCREASE THE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES OF THE PARK.
THAT'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE SEQUENT EXEMPTION AND SPECIFIC PLAN NUMBER FIVE, 32 SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF REPORT ON THE PROJECT.
UM, WE DID RECEIVE SEVERAL COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC RECENTLY AND THOSE WERE PROVIDED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION INVITING.
SO WHEN IT COMES TIME TO DISCUSSION, WE DO ASK THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THOSE HAVE BEEN READ, UM, OR WE WON'T READ THOSE COMMENTS OUT AS NECESSARY.
WE ALSO HAVE THE APPLICANTS, UM, AVAILABLE AS WELL.
UM, ONCE THAT TIME COMES, WE HAVE, UM, DEBRA DEPRAVITY AND PAUL HOKINESS, UH, WITH DEPRAVITY.
SO AT THIS TIME, UM, THE MISTERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF IN REGARDS TO THIS PROJECT?
YOU KNOW, CAN I GET BACK? CAN YOU UNSHARE THE PRESENTATION SO I CAN SEE EVERYBODY HERE? I'M GONNA JUST SEE IF I CAN DO THAT.
PAUL, QUICK QUESTION ON THE RYNETTE PARK.
WHAT CURRENT LIGHTING EXISTS? IS THAT FIELD JUST UNLIT AT NIGHT? LET'S DEFINE AGAIN, THERE IS SOME LIGHTING IN THE PARK, BUT IT IS NOT FOR RECREATIONAL SPORTS PLAY.
IT'S MORE LIKE SAFETY LIGHTING.
JUST CAUSE MY CHILDREN PLAYED SOCCER THERE FOR YEARS AND I'VE ACTUALLY BROUGHT A LIGHT TO THE PARK FEE.
THERE IS LIGHTING BUT IT'S NOT LIKE THEY SAID FOR, FOR A SPORT USE.
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TO BRING LIGHTING IN TO THAT PARK IF THE KIDS WANTED TO PLAY SOCCER.SO IT WILL BE HELPFUL TO HAVE EXTENDED HOURS SINCE THERE'S LIMITED FIELDS FOR THE KIDS TO PLAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR SEE? GREAT.
AND I DON'T SEE, UH, SO TLA, IS HE STILL ON? SO JUST ME OR AM I MISSING SOMETHING HERE? I DON'T SEE HIM.
SO WHEN WAS THE, I SAW THERE WAS UM, FOUR OR FIVE ACTUAL LIGHTS THERE, KIND OF LIKE, UH, FACING THE PARK.
WHEN WERE THOSE INSTALLED? I DON'T DATE FOR ONE OF THOSE.
I'M KIND OF REFERRING TO THE LETTER THAT WAS THE EXHIBIT FROM JOANNE AND STAN.
THEY WERE MENTIONING THAT THAT LIGHTING HAD RECENTLY BEEN INSTALLED.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW HOW RECENT IT WAS.
I, I REMEMBER IT BEING A FOUR YEAR OLD CHILD.
I USED TO LIVE OVER THERE AND I ALWAYS WANTED LIGHTING THERE TO DO.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHEN THAT LIGHTING ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT
LIKE YOUR MIKE'S NOT ON, BUT I CAN HEAR YOU.
SO I WOULD JUST SAY WE DON'T HAVE THAT SPECIFIC INFORMATION.
UM, THE CITY ENGINEERS HERE AS WELL AND UM, WE DON'T HAVE THE DATE THEY WERE INSTALLED.
WELL THEN THEN WHEN I SAW THE SKATE PARK, CAUSE I KNOW THAT'S BEEN AN ADDITION.
THEY COULD HAVE BEEN DONE WITH THE RENOVATION, BUT I THINK THEY HAVE BEEN, UM, I THINK THEY WERE THERE PREVIOUS TO THAT.
WE WOULD NOT BE REMOVING THOSE LIGHTS.
THEY DO PROVIDE, UM, YOU KNOW, SAFETY AND SECURITY.
AND SO THEY HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC PURPOSE.
UM, THIS FIELD LIGHTING WOULD BE FOR THE RECREATIONAL USE OF THE, OF THE SPORTS FIELDS, NOT FOR THE SAFETY LIGHTING.
AND THEN THE, UM, THE, UH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE, UH, FOR MELISSA.
UM, WHAT ARE THE STANDARDS WE HAVE TO MEET? I KNOW THAT IN A, IN A A BUILDING PLAN THERE'S CERTAIN STANDARDS, BUT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT A PARK FOR UNDERGROUNDING CERTAIN, UM, UM, TELEPHONE WIRES AND THAT KIND OF THING.
WHAT, WHAT ARE THE STANDARDS THAT HAPPENED HE MET IN ORDER FOR THAT TO HAPPEN? ARE YOU REFERENCING THE, THE BORING THAT'S NEEDED OR THE ELECTRICAL CONNECTION? WELL, NO, I'M REFERENCING THAT WE ALREADY HAVE SO MUCH.
IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE PICTURES THAT YOU WERE SHOWING, WE HAVE SO MANY OVERHEAD WIRES THERE.
UM, AND WE HAVE SO MUCH OF THAT AIRSPACE BEING TAKEN TAKEN UP BY JUST A PLETHORA OF TELEPHONE WIRES AND ELECTRICAL WIRES AND, AND, AND IT, I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S GOING TO BE AESTHETICALLY PLEASING TO HAVE MORE WIRES AND THINGS UP THERE.
SO I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN ACTUALLY FORCE THEM TO UNDERGROUND THOSE WIRES SO THEY CAN PUT THEIRS UP THERE.
THEIR CONNECTION WILL BE UNDERGROUNDED.
UM, BUT IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ELECTRICAL CONNECTION FOR THE RECREATION CENTER AND OTHER, UH, ELECTRICAL TRANSMISSION, UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A PLAN TO UNDERGROUND THOSE A LOT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS PROJECT.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS THERE A METHODOLOGY IN WHICH WE CAN PERHAPS DO A TRADE OFF WHERE WE CAN, UH, CAN WE ACTUALLY AS A COMMITTEE, IS THERE AN ORDINANCE THAT SAYS THAT THEY, THEY, UM, THEY'LL GET, UH, SOME KIND OF SET OFF IF THEY DO UNDERGROUNDING OF THE TELEPHONE POLES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THERE ARE THRESHOLDS FOR WHEN UNDERGROUNDING IS REQUIRED.
UM, AND THOSE ARE DETERMINED BY OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL.
SO WHENEVER A PROJECT DOES COME FORWARD, UM, USUALLY FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT AND IT WAS TO CONSTRUCT A NEW COMMERCIAL BUILDING, THEY WOULD NEED TO
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UNDERGROUND TO THE, YOU KNOW, NEXT POINT OF CONNECTION, POTENTIALLY UNDERGROUND, UH, YOU KNOW, FRONTAGE.HOWEVER, IN THIS CASE THEY'RE CONSTRUCTING TWO LIGHTING HOLES AND IT WOULDN'T FALL UNDER A TYPICAL DEVELOPMENT SCENARIO.
UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE BUILDING OFFICIAL IS IDENTIFIED THAT THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO ANY UNDERGROUNDING IN CONJUNCTION PROJECT.
THAT'S KIND OF A, I WAS HOPING I COULD FIND SOMETHING, BUT I COULDN'T.
ANY OTHER QUICK QUESTION? YEAH, REBECCA.
UM, JUST A QUICK QUESTION REGARDING, CAUSE I SAID THAT THERE WAS TWO POLES THERE AND ONE'S GOING TO BE DONE BY 18 T AND THE OTHER ONE'S GOING TO BE OPEN.
IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY WIRING DONE TO THAT POLE AT THAT TIME OR IS THAT GOING TO BE A DISTURBANCE AT A LATER TIME IF SOMEONE DECIDES TO GO IN THERE? SO AT THIS FRAME IT WOULD BE, UM, READY FOR, UM, ANY NEW CARRIERS THAT WANTED TO CO LOCATE THERE BECAUSE IT IS A CITY PROPERTY AND THEY WOULD NEED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY IN ORDER TO INSTALL THAT FACILITY ON THE POLE.
UM, BUT THERE WOULD BE SOME CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY INVOLVED WITH ADDITIONAL INTENDANTS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALRIGHTY.
WHY, UM, WHY WAS THAT AN AESTHETIC CHOSEN AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING ELSE? SO C FIELD LIGHTING SELECTION WAS MADE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE APPLICANT AND OUR REC STAFF AND OUR PUBLIC WORKS FAST.
THE INITIAL, UH, APPLICATION WAS FOR A PHOTO TREE APPROXIMATELY 50 FEET IN HEIGHT.
AND THAT TREE WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN THE OTHER TYPES OF TREES ON THE RECREATION CENTER WITH THE EXCEPTION OF MAYBE THOSE PALM TREES.
AND IT DIDN'T SEEM TO BLEND IN, UM, OR BE AS COMPATIBLE.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO MASS CARE SOMETHING THAT UM, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY WHAT WOULD STICK OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB.
AND IT WAS IDENTIFIED BY RECREATION STAFF THAT THERE WAS A NEED FOR FAILED LIGHTING AND THE APPLICANT WAS WILLING TO WORK WITH US TO CONSIDER THAT AS AN OPTION, SEE IF THAT WOULD BE FEASIBLE.
AND IN THIS INSTANCE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS TYPE OF INSTALLATION IS A COMMON FACILITY YOU DO SEE IN A PARK, UM, AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, A 50 FOOT POETRY.
AND SO IT, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD, YOU TYPICALLY MORE FINER AND MORE COMPATIBLE, UM, AS A THANK YOU.
CAN YOU HEAR US? YES, I'VE HEARD THAT SOME OF THE CORRESPONDENCES, YES, I CAN HEAR YOU.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? YEAH, GO AHEAD.
I READ SOME OF THE CORRESPONDENCE THAT WAS SENT TO YOU REGARDING THE CELL TOWERS AND I NOTICED THAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE CONCERNS REGARDING OF THE FIVE G UM, THAT'S MICROWAVE.
UH, WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT, THAT BOOK CONCERNS THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE VOICE? SOME OF THE PEOPLE HAVE VOICED THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO RADIO FREQUENCY EMISSIONS, UM, ARE REGULATED BY THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION.
UM, THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY OR THE ABILITY TO REGULATE FACILITIES BASED ON ANY HEALTH AND SAFETY CONCERNS RELATED TO THEIR EMISSIONS.
I DON'T BELIEVE THOSE ARE FIVE.
YES, I DID MY OWN RESEARCH AND I LOOKED ON THE WEBSITE WE GOT IN THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY WHAT THEY THOUGHT OF THE RADIO FREQUENCY AND THAT
SO WE CAN'T TAKE THIS INTO CONSIDERATION.
IS THAT WHAT THAT IS? CORRECT.
WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO TAKE THE CONSIDERATION OF THE EMISSION INTO THE DECISION THAT YOU'RE MAKING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?
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OKAY.UM, SO WHERE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT A RECESS? AND THEN OPENING PUBLIC HEARING SO THEY CAN GET THOSE IN.
NO, I DO BELIEVE WE ARE A PUBLIC COMPANY.
SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, WHAT DO WE HAVE MS. DIAZ AND BEFORE SARAH READS OUT THE PUBLIC COMMENT TOO, I SEE KIND OF THE PUBLIC, RIGHT.
I THINK YOU'RE MUTED BEFORE MS. DIAZ READS OUT THE COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED FROM THE PUBLIC DURING THE MEETING.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO VERIFY THAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED AND READ COMMON.
UM, WE DID RECEIVE A LETTER FROM LESLIE BURGESS SO WE CAN RECEIVE CONCURRENCE THAT YOU HAVE ALL READ THAT LETTER THAT WAS SENT TO YOU, AARON.
UM, AND THEN WE RECEIVED SEVERAL COMMUNICATIONS, UM, TODAY.
UM, ALL OF THE COMMENTS CENTERING IN AND AROUND, UM, THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE FIVE G AND THE HEALTH RISKS RELATED TO, UM, RADIO FREQUENCY EMISSIONS.
I'M GOING TO READ OUT THE NAMES OF THOSE WHO SUBMITTED COMMENTS AND THEN ONCE I READ THOSE OUT, IF YOU WOULD EACH INDIVIDUALLY ACKNOWLEDGED THAT YOU HAVE READ THOSE COMMENTS.
VERONICA RAMIREZ, JOSCELYN HUNT, LISA MASON AND MEGAN AGUILAR.
WERE THOSE SENT OUT TODAY? SO PERHAPS WHAT WE COULD DO IS WE COULD TAKE A BRIEF RECESS AND ALLOW YOU TO READ THOSE COMMENTS AND UM, WOULD THAT BE, WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO THAT GARREN OR WOULD YOU PREFER TO HAVE THEM READ INTO THE RECORD NOW? UH, NO.
WE'LL GIVE YOU A QUICK RECESS.
AS LONG AS I HAVE THEM AVAILABLE TO ME.
WAS THAT SENT TO OUR EMAIL AND IF NOT, WE'LL JUST READ THEM INTO THE RECORD FOR YOUR PHONE CALL.
UM, WAS THAT SENT WITH THE LINK? SO THAT WAS SPENT THIS AFTERNOON.
I DO NOT HAVE AN EMAIL FROM YOU AFTER SEVEN 49 THIS MORNING.
WELL WE WILL GO AHEAD AND READ THOSE INTO THE RECORD.
SO, UM, YOU HAVE SOME PATIENCE WITH ME AS I READ THIS INTO THE RECORD.
THE FIRST COMMENT LETTER IS FROM VERONICA RAMIREZ.
THIS EMAIL IS IN REGARDS TO THE PROPOSAL OF INSTALLING 5G TOWERS THAT WERE NOT PARKED.
I AM A HONA HOME OWNER RESIDING AT ONE 92 WEST VERNON AVENUE, WHICH IS ONE BLOCK AWAY FROM THE PARK AND WE WERE NOT INCLUDED IN THE GROUP OF RESIDENTS THAT RECEIVE NOTIFICATION ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL.
AFTER LEARNING ABOUT THIS ON SOCIAL MEDIA, I BEGAN READING ON THE EFFECTS OF LIVING NEAR THIS TYPE OF POWER.
I MEAN BOTH POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE FEEDBACK.
I AM NOW WORRIED ABOUT OUR HEALTH.
HOPEFULLY THE CITY CONDUCTED A THOROUGH AND EXTENSIVE ANALYSIS IN ORDER TO DETERMINE IF THE INSTALLATION OF THESE TOWERS WILL BENEFIT THE CITY OF ALCOHOL WHILE NOT AFFECTING ITS PRESIDENT.
I LOOK FORWARD TO THE OUTCOME AT THE MEETING SCHEDULED FOR TODAY, APRIL 21ST, 2020 HAVE A GREAT DAY.
THE NEXT COMMENT IS FROM JESSALYN ICHO WHO IT MAY CONCERN.
I AM WRITING THIS LETTER OUT OF CONCERN FOR THE FIVE G TOWER SET TO GO UP IN EL CAHONE.
I WORRY ABOUT THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY AND THE LACK OF TESTING ABOUT ITS LONGTERM USE.
PLEASE CONSIDER VOTING NO UNTIL WE UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THE IMPLICATIONS FOR OUR HEALTH.
NO, I'M NOT ONE OF THOSE WHO THINKS THAT TRANSMITS COPE AT 19 BUT I AM STILL CONCERNED ABOUT INCREASED RADIATION WHERE WE WORK AND PLAY.
THANKS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
JESSALYN EHL EL KAHAN RESIDENTS.
THE NEXT LETTER IS FROM MICHELLE HUNT.
I AM REACHING OUT TODAY TO EXPRESS MY CONCERN ON THE IMPENDING VOTE FOR INSTALLING 5G TOWERS AT RYNETTE PARK.
I CANNOT EXPRESS HOW AGAINST THIS.
I AM OKLAHOMA AND HAS ENOUGH PROBLEMS FOR OUR CHILDREN, BUT I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS HEALTH HAZARD IS EVEN BEING CONSIDERED WHERE
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OUR CHILDREN PLAY.NO REVENUE IS WORTH THIS RISK WHATSOEVER.
PLEASE CONSIDER REDDING AGAINST THIS MATTER.
THANK YOU MICHELLE HUNT AND THAT'S COMMENT LETTERS FROM LISA MASON.
WE DO NOT WANT THESE TOWERS HERE.
TONIGHT IS THE NIGHT THAT THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA ARE VOTING FOR THE FIVE G ANTENNAS AT BARNETT PARK.
LARGE NUMBER OF CHILDREN PLAY AND HAVE ACTIVITIES AT THIS LOCATION.
THERE'S ALSO A SCHOOL VERY CLOSE BY ANYONE WHO LIVES IN CLOSE PROXIMITY AND OWNS A HOME.
THIS WILL DEFINITELY DECREASE THE VALUE OF YOUR HOME.
YOU HAVE TIME TO VOICE YOUR OPINION.
SEND YOUR LETTER BY 4:00 PM THIS AFTERNOON.
WRITE A LETTER TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND TELL THEM WE DO NOT WANT THESE TELLERS HERE.
THEY'RE ALREADY MAKING MILLIONS OFF THE SMALL ANTENNA THAT THEY HAVE ATTACHED TO ALL THE STREET LIGHTS AND ELECTRICAL POLE.
THE LAST LETTER, UM, IS RATHER LENGTHY.
IT IS FROM MEGAN AGUILAR THERE THOUGH.
WELL STEVE GLOBAL, SO OUR TEAM SCARY KENDRICK BOB MCCLELLAN AND ALL OTHER DECISION MAKERS.
IN REGARDS TO THE TOPIC I AM WRITING BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE SET TO MAKE A DECISION REGARDING INSTALLATION OF A NEW WIRELESS COMMUNICATIONS FACILITY CONSISTING OF TWO FIGHTING POLES, 80 FEET IN HEIGHT WITH 12 PROPOSED PANEL ANTENNAS AND SPACE FOR POTENTIAL ADDITIONAL INCENTIVES BY OTHER CARRIERS, BORING FOR CABLES AND YOU SET AN ENCLOSURE AND MODIFICATION OF THE EXISTING TRASH ENCLOSURE.
I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT MY FAMILY AND I ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WANT THIS FIVEG TECHNOLOGY OUTSIDE OUR LOCAL PARK FOR OUR CHILDREN ATTEND RECREATIONAL CLASSES.
IT IS COMPARABLE TO STRONG MICROWAVE RADIATION EMITTING FROM IT.
I NEVER CLAIMED TO US ALSO WARNING THAT THE MAY NEED A MICROWAVE, MICROWAVE, WAVE AND AND W FREQUENCIES TO BE USED FOR FIVE G.
I SERVE AN ESPECIALLY DANGEROUS AND EXPERIMENTS.
WE SHOULD BE REDUCING OUR EXPOSURE TO MICROWAVE RADIATION, NOT INCREASING IT BY PUTTING IT UP AND DOWN EVERY STREET.
MANY THOUSANDS OF SCIENTISTS, DOCTORS AND ORGANIZATIONS FOR A HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT I'VE COME OUT AGAINST BY CLI AND OR INCREASING EXPOSURES TO MICROWAVE RADIATION AM I NEED OR THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION.
THERE ARE PLOTS, CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH, AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS, AMERICAN ACADEMY OF ENVIRONMENTAL MEDICINE NAME BUT A FEW EVEN INDUSTRY LEADERS AND THAT THEY SEND NO SAFETY TESTING.
THIS IS UNTESTED UNSAFE TECHNOLOGY WITH MILLIMETER WAVE ONLY PREVIOUSLY USED FOR MILITARY CROWD CONTROL TO CREATE AN UNBEARABLE BURNING SENSATION ON THE SKIN REPORTED TO FEEL LIKE IT IS ON FIRE AND ALSO HURTFUL TO EYES WHICH MUST SEND CLOTHES.
WE ARE NOT, WE ARE NOT TO BE USED AS GUINEA PIGS IN EXPERIMENTS AND IT'S ILLEGAL ACCORDING TO THEIR NURNBERG CODE.
I DOES NOT FIVE GS, NOT SMALL CELLS ANYWHERE NEAR MY FAMILY.
WE WORK HARD TO STAY HEALTHY AND DO NOT WANT TO BE SICK AND BY FIVE G ON OUR STREETS OR BY OUR HOME.
I KNOW I ALSO SAID THERE'S AN INVASION OF PRIVACY AND OUR SECURITY IS COMPROMISED BY THE FIVE YOU PLANS.
THAT WAS ME CAUSE FIRES AND WE CERTAINLY DON'T NEED MORE OF THOSE.
THE NUTRIENTS WILL ALSO HAVE TO BE CUT.
I WILL NO LONGER BE SENDING MY CHILDREN TO DO ANY MORE RECREATIONAL CLASSES WITH THE CITY OF ALCOHOL.
AND IF THIS IS A CREW, ARE THERE COUNTIES AND CITIES AND MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ARE FIGHTING FCC ORDERS RELATED TO FAST-TRACKING FRIED CHEESE.
AND I WANT OUR COUNTY TO DO THE SAME.
THERE IS NO EXCUSE TO DO OTHERWISE.
SO YOU HAVE HER IN TENNIS AND TELLERS TO COMMERCIAL AREAS KEEP 5G ENTIRELY OUT OF OUR COMMUNITY.
THE CURRENT ORDINANCES TOOK A LOT OF TIME, EFFORT AND LEGAL WORK TO GAIN.
I WILL BE WATCHING EXACTLY HOW YOU HANDLE THIS AND WHAT IMPACTS ME ABOUT YOUR SUPPORT FOR YOU IN FUTURE ELECTIONS.
SO HOW AM I FAMILY PROTECTS THE PUBLIC HEALTH.
I REPRESENT RESIDENTS NOT FOR PROFIT CORPORATIONS.
YOU DON'T CARE WHAT YOU MAKE WHEN AGUILAR OF ONE SEVEN, FOUR, FOUR SISTER GRAND DAY VOTE.
SO WE HAVE ALL THOSE RED IN PAUL.
WERE YOU ABLE TO HEAR THEM ALL? THANK YOU.
IS THAT IT FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT? NO OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT CAME IN ON THIS ITEM.
NOW IS THERE ANY PUBLIC THAT IS CONNECTED AT THIS TIME OR IS THAT IT? YES.
THAT APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND IF POSSIBLE WHEN IT'S MY TURN.
WELL LET'S DO THIS DRIVE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING NOW THAT WE'VE HEARD ALL THE TESTIMONY.
THE APPLICANT PART OF PUBLIC HEARING.
YEAH, LET'S HAVE THE
HELLO, MY NAME IS DEBORAH DUCATI GARDNER.
I REPRESENT 18 AND T. MELISSA,
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WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO PUT UP THE SHORT LITTLE PRESENTATION THAT I SENT YOU? YES.SO, UM, QUICKLY I DID WANT TO SPEAK BRIEFLY REGARDING THE 5G.
THIS FACILITY DOES NOT COMPRISE, DOES NOT PRESENTLY HAVE A FIVE G MILLIMETER WAVE ANTENNA PROPOSED AND ONE OF THE LETTERS WAS DISCUSSING SMALL CELL 5G, WHICH IS NOT, IT'S A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT INSTALLATION.
THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON ON RIGHT OF WAY INSTALLATIONS.
THIS IS A MACRO CELLS, UM, INSTALLATION COMPRISED OF 12 AND 10 IS PRESENTLY, NONE OF WHICH ARE THE 5G.
SO THE MILLIMETER WAVE TECHNOLOGY ACTUALLY IS, IS ABOUT 18 MONTHS OUT AND IT'S NOT ACTUALLY BEING INSTALLED ON ANYTHING WITHIN CITY OF SAN DIEGO RIGHT NOW OR COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO ON MACRO SITES THAT I CAN FURTHER ADDRESS ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ON THAT.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? MELISSA, ARE YOU GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THAT UP OR SHOULD I JUST SPEAK TO IT? YES, I BELIEVE IT.
OH, IS IT
COMMISSIONER CABERA YOU HAD A QUESTION? I'LL WAIT TO SEE YOU.
SO I WANTED BASICALLY DO ADDRESS A OF THE LETTERS THAT CAME IN IN TERMS OF WHY WE SELECTED THIS SITE.
SO A T AND T PURSUED AN ADDITIONAL SITE IN THAT WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF ALCOHOL BASICALLY TO FILL A GAP.
AND IF YOU CAN SEE WHERE NET PARK IS ESSENTIALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR SEARCH AREA.
AND IF UM, YOU CAN PAN OUT JUST A LITTLE BIT.
THERE'S THE LITTLE GREEN STARS SURROUNDING THE CIRCLE.
THOSE ARE EXISTING A T AND T ON AIR SITES.
SO BASICALLY THE A CELL SITE OPERATES LIKE A HONEYCOMB AND TO BE A, UM, TO BE OPERATING EFFICIENTLY, THE CELL SITE ESSENTIALLY NEEDS TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HONEYCOMB.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'RE NET PARK IS BASICALLY IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR SEARCH AREA.
AND IN THE FEW MOVE DOWN TWO SLIDES, MELISSA, WE CAN SHOW YOU THE COVERAGE GAP.
SO BASICALLY THIS IS SHOWING THE GREEN IS GOOD COVERAGE, WHICH WOULD BASICALLY WOULD BE IN BUILDING COVERAGE.
SO IF YOU WALKED INTO YOUR HOME, YOU'D STILL HAVE COVERAGE WITH YOUR 80 AND T DEVICE.
AND AGAIN, WANT TO CLARIFY, THIS IS SOLELY FOR AT AND T COVERAGE.
UM, THE RED IS BASICALLY NO COVERAGE.
MEANING IF YOU ARE WALKING ON THE STREET, YOU WOULD HAVE NO, NO COVERAGE.
AND YELLOW IS BASICALLY WEAK COVERAGE.
SO IF YOU WERE ON THE STREET, YOU MAY BE GOT ONE OR TWO BARS AND YOU, BUT IF YOU WALKED INTO A BUILDING, YOU PROBABLY WOULDN'T HOLD THE CALL.
SO THIS IS A AREA WITH THAT'S NEEDS IN BUILDING COVERAGE.
I'M SURE ALL OF YOU ARE AWARE.
YOU'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO BE IN YOUR CAR, WALK OUT OF YOUR CAR AND INTO YOUR HOME AND HOLD THE CALL.
AS ALL OF YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT FOUR KIDS AT HOME.
WE'RE ALL SITTING HERE ON THIS, YOU KNOW, SO TECHNOLOGY'S IMPORTANT AND I UNDERSTAND RESIDENT'S CONCERNS, BUT IN THIS SITUATION WE'RE TRYING TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE CITY AS WELL AS, UM, THE COMPANY AT AND T.
BUT I JUST REALLY BRIEFLY, I DON'T VIEW 18 T AS A COMMERCIAL SERVICE IN THE SENSE THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR CELL PHONES ARE A PRIMARY PRIMARY MODES OF COMMUNICATION.
NOW I DON'T EVEN USE A HOME PHONE ANYMORE.
SO, AND IN ADDITION, THIS SITE WILL BE PROVIDING ETHNIC COVERAGE, WHICH IS FOR FIRST RESPONDERS.
IT'S A FEDERAL ROLLOUT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY SO THAT THERE'S, UM, EFFECTIVE COVERAGE FOR FIRST RESPONDERS.
SO THIS WILL BE AN F NET FACILITY.
SO THEN GOING BACK TO WHY WE'RE HERE.
UM, SO BASICALLY IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HONEYCOMB.
UM, ONE OF I WANTED IT IF YOU'LL JUST GO RUN DOWN TO THAT LAST SLIDE THAT I CAN KIND OF WRAP IT UP.
SO BASICALLY THERE WERE A COUPLE LETTERS THAT SAID, YOU KNOW, WHY AREN'T YOU IN THE INDUSTRIAL AREA ADJACENT TO IAA AND ALCOHOL BOULEVARD AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PURPLE STAR TO THE FAR WEST, THAT'S THE INDUSTRIAL AREA THEY WERE SPEAKING OF.
IT'S BASICALLY ON THE FAR WEST SIDE OF THE SEARCH AREA AND IT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO FILL THE GAP.
AND THEN THE OTHER LETTER, AND I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T HAVE THE NAME OF THE PERSON, I KIND OF JUST GRABBED THEIR QUOTES.
THEY WERE ASKING WHY COULDN'T WE LOCATE AT THE COMMERCIAL CORNER AT CHASE AND ESTOS.
AND, UM, IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THAT IT'S ONLY LIKE A 20 FOOT BUILDING AND ANYTHING OF ANY SCALE THAT WOULD PROVIDE THE COVERAGE WE NEED WOULD BE VERY OUT OF SCALE.
IT ALSO IS PRETTY FAR TO THE SOUTH.
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LIGHT POLES AT THE LITTLE LEAGUE FIELD.AND AGAIN, THAT LITTLE LEAGUE FIELD IS JUST TOO FAR TO THE SOUTH.
SO ALL THINGS CONSIDERED, AS MELISSA SUGGESTED, WE INITIALLY LOOKED AT PUTTING IN A TREE, WORK WITH STAFF.
THEY LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING LIGHTING.
WE ADDED A SECOND LIGHT AT THEIR REQUEST AND I DID WANT TO MENTION THE PHOTO SIMS ACTUALLY SHOW A FULL BUILD OUT WITH FOUR CARRIERS, TWO CARRIERS ON EACH POLO.
WE'RE ONLY PROPOSING TO PUT IN THE 12 AND 10 IS ON THE WESTERLY POLE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SIMS, IT SHOWS YOU KNOW, THREE ADDITIONAL CARRIERS.
SO THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAD TO SAY.
SO I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION REGARDING THE, THE CURRENT SERVICE.
I KNOW THAT THERE IS A SITE AT GROSSMONT HIGH SCHOOL NEXT TO THE BLEACHERS ON THE VISITOR SIDE OF THE FIELD.
IS THAT ONE OF THE POLES YOU CURRENTLY HAVE? UM, I, I UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UM, GOSH, WHAT'S THE BEST LIABILITY? OKAY.
IF YOU GO TO MELISSA, IF YOU'VE JUMPED BACK UP TO THAT SECOND SLIDE.
SO THE SITES I'M SHOWING THAT BASICALLY SEE THIS SITE, BECAUSE ALL OF THESE, THIS IS A MACRO SITE, SO A MACRO SITE HAS TO ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY SEE ANOTHER MACRO SITE TO TALK TO IT.
SO BASICALLY NORTH TO DIRECTLY NORTH OR KIND OF NORTHEAST IS, THAT'S THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE.
THEN TO THE WEST, THAT'S IN AN INDUSTRIAL, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NAME OF THE BUILDING, BUT IT'S A SMALL INDUSTRIAL BUILDING THAT THAT'S LOCATED ON.
AND THEN THIS ONE, THIS MAY BE GROSSMONT HIGH SCHOOL, I APOLOGIZE.
I DON'T ACTUALLY, YEAH, THERE IT IS.
SO THE ONE OVER HERE TO THE FAR WEST KIND OF DOWN THE GREENSTAR THAT IS ACTUALLY GROSSMONT HIGH SCHOOL.
I'VE SEEN THAT POSTER NUMEROUS TIMES.
SO I KNEW THAT THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WHERE KIDS PLAY, BUT KIDS PLAY FOOTBALL THERE AND PLAY PRACTICE SPORTS EVERY SINGLE DAY.
MY KIDS WENT TO THAT SCHOOL, SO I JUST WANTED TO VOICE MY CONCERNS THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT KIDS, BUT THEY'RE AT SCHOOL WHILE SO, AND I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, I MEAN IT'S A TICK THIS SORTING INSTALLATION WHEN IT WAS ALSO, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT MELISSA HAD MENTIONED MASCO LIGHTING WAS DESIGNED, THE LIGHT STANDARDS, WHO BASICALLY DOES ALL THE LIGHT STANDARDS FOR ALL THE SCHOOLS AND PARKS PRETTY MUCH IN THE COUNTY.
SO THE LIGHT AT AND T DID NOT DESIGN THE LIGHTING, MOSCOW LIGHTING DESIGN, THE LIGHTING.
OBVIOUSLY WE'RE JUST PUTTING ON THE ANTENNAS.
UM, DEBRA, COULD YOU ADDRESS THE WA HIRING? WE TALKED BRIEFLY ABOUT BORING PUTTING THE HOLES IN, GETTING EQUIPMENT BUILT, AND THEN THE POLES UP.
CAN YOU TELL US IF THE WIRES ARE GOING TO BE ALREADY IN THE PIPES READY FOR ANOTHER CARRIER TO JUST PUT PANELS ON AND THEIR OWN EQUIPMENT IN THE EQUIPMENT ROOM? YES.
SO BASICALLY THERE'S HANDHOLDS THAT ARE, SO BASICALLY THESE ARE ENGINEERED TO ACCOMMODATE THE TWO CARRIERS AND THE, UH, FROM THE EQUIPMENT CABINET TO THE POLE, THE, THE UNDERGROUND WIRES, THE BOARD, AND THEN THEY'RE BASICALLY PULLED UP INTO THE POLE AND THE, UM, ALL THE WIRING WILL BE INSIDE THE, THE POLE.
SO IT'LL BE PLUG AND PLAY FOR THE NEXT CARRIER TO JUST INSTALL PANELS AND THEN GO TO THE EQUIPMENT ROOM AND MO WHATEVER THEY NEED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR DEBORAH? WHAT'S YOUR CAMERA? SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT GRAPH THAT MELISSA HAD UP EARLIER, THE MAP AND I, I THINK THE LETTER THAT ONE OF THE, UH, CITIZENS WROTE ABOUT THE INDUSTRIAL AREA ACTUALLY IS REFERRING TO YOUR YELLOW SPACES.
UH, UH, THAT IS MORE TO THE WEST AND TO THE SOUTH WHERE THE CURVATURE OCCURS ON INTERSTATE EIGHT.
THERE ARE MANY, UH, THERE'S MANY OFFICE BUILDINGS THERE.
AND I KNOW BECAUSE I USED TO ACTUALLY RENT ONE OF THEM.
THAT ONE WAS, SOON AS WE WENT INTO THE BUILDING, WE COULDN'T GET ANY, UH, SELF STUFF.
AND THEN TO THE SOUTH, THERE'S MANY, UH, RESTAURANTS AND THEN OFFICE BUILDINGS THERE TOO.
SO I THINK THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT EVERY AREA BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT WE LOSE OUR
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CONNECTIONS THERE ALL THE TIME.I DON'T THINK THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PURPLE AREA NECESSARILY.
SO I'M, I'M KINDA WONDERING IF YOU'RE MISSING THE TARGET ACTUALLY.
UM, I, I CAN ONLY ADDRESS WHAT OUR, UM, REQUIREMENT WAS FROM AT T AND T AND IT WAS TO FILL THE GAP OF COVERAGE THAT THE CIRCLE REPRESENTS.
SO THE AREA YOU'RE DESCRIBING IS FAR OUTSIDE OF THAT AREA.
AND I DID MY BEST TO INTERPRET THE LETTER AND THEY DISCUSSED AN INDUSTRIAL AREA BETWEEN OUTCOME BOULEVARD IN EIGHT IN YOUR INDUSTRIAL ZONING IS REPRESENTED BY PURPLE.
BUT UM, IN TERMS OF THE AREA YOU'RE DESCRIBING, IT WOULD NOT FALL WITHIN THE SERVICE REQUIREMENTS IF THIS WERE ENGLISH MALARIA AS BEING SERVICED BY THE ICE COMPANY TOWER.
I THINK MOST RESIDENTS KNOW THAT.
SO I'M JUST, I'M CONCERNED ATNT IS DOING ALL THIS AND MISSING THE PEOPLE THAT REALLY NEED IT.
AS I MENTIONED, WE ARE DOING AS WE WERE REQUESTED BY A T AND T I, I'M JUST A CONSULTANT THAT PROCESSES PERMITS AND AT AND T TELLS ME WHERE THEY WANT THE COVERAGE AND THAT'S BASED ON THAT LACK OF COVERAGE.
SO AS MENTIONED, THE PER THE BLUE OUTLINE, OVAL OUTLINE REPRESENTS THE COVERAGE AREA THAT WE'RE, THE GAP THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FILL.
ONE MORE QUESTION, WHY NOT FALL WITHIN THE 70 FEET? WHY 80 FEET? UM, I BELIEVE MELISSA ADDRESSED THAT.
UM, IT WAS ACTUALLY MORE SPECIFIC TO THE LIGHTING REQUIREMENTS.
UM, NOT THE CELL SITE COVERAGE.
NOW WAS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT UH, SHIELDING THE LIGHTING? UM, I DIDN'T COMPANY, YES.
SO I AGAIN, UM, WE WENT THROUGH, MELISSA BRIEFLY WENT THROUGH THOSE AND IF SHE CAN PULL THEM BACK UP, I COULD TRY TO SPEAK TO THEM.
BUT BASICALLY THE LIGHTING IS BEING, WAS BEING DESIGNED TO OBVIOUSLY BE PRIMARILY WITHIN THE, THE BALL FIELD AREA.
SHE MENTIONED THAT AT THE, UM, THEY ANALYZED WHAT THE CANDELA WOULD BE AT THE LINE OF THE RESIDENTIAL BASICALLY AT THE SIDEWALK AND IT'S 500 CANDELA OR LESS, WHICH IS BASICALLY LIKE A STREETLIGHT IN TWO 50 CANDELA, WHICH IS BASICALLY AT THE HOUSE LINE IS LIKE A HUNDRED WITH BOB BALL.
SO IT, UM, AND THEN IN ADDITION, ONCE IT'S INSTALLED, THE LIGHTING COMPANY WILL WORK WITH THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE'S ANY ISSUES THAT THEY CAN MODIFY THE LIGHTING TO CLARIFY OR, OR MAKE SURE THAT NOBODY HAS ANY ISSUES.
SO ALL OF THOSE LIGHTS CAN BE MANIPULATED IN A WAY THAT IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE LIGHTS ARE BEING POINTED DOWN AT THE FIELD THAT THE GOAL IS NOT TO GO BEYOND THAT SO THEY CAN WORK WITH THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S HAPPY.
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LIGHT HOUSING, WHICH IS SPECIFIED AND LIGHT SHIELDING.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE VERBIAGE IN THERE ABOUT ACTUAL SHIELDING THAT CAN BE MANIPULATED AS OPPOSED TO JUST THE HOUSING MANEUVERED.
I'M TOTALLY, I'M TOTALLY OKAY WITH THAT.
THAT THE, ALL THE LIGHTING ASPECT I HAVE TO TELL YOU IS REALLY THE CITY'S CALL.
ANYTHING THEY WANT TO SPECIFY, I'M TOTALLY OKAY WITH.
UM, THERE ARE SOME DISCREPANCIES IN THE FLOOR PLAN AND THE ELEVATIONS.
BUT BASICALLY I'LL CUT TO THE CHASE.
THE ROOFING MATERIAL THAT YOU'RE USING FOR THE NEW, UM, EQUIPMENT.
WHAT KIND OF MATERIAL ARE YOU PUTTING ON THERE? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT, THERE'S BEEN A GREAT EFFORT TO MAKE THIS PART LOOK NICE AGAIN AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THE SAME KIND OF ROOFING MATERIAL AS ON THE PARK ITSELF.
IT'S CURRENTLY NOTED TO MA TO BASICALLY MATCH AN EXHIBIT THE EXISTING.
UM, SO IF YOU'RE NOT HAPPY WITH THE EXISTING BUILDINGS ROOF, THEN WE SHOULD PROBABLY TALK ABOUT THAT.
UM, WE'RE, WE DON'T HAVE CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS SUBMITTED, SO, UM, IF THERE IS AN ALTERNATE ROOF TOP MATERIAL THAT YOU WOULD LIKE, THEN AGAIN, WE'RE TOTALLY OPEN TO DOING WHATEVER
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YOU WANT.AS PRESENTLY NOTED ON THE PLANS THAT WE'RE GOING TO, BASICALLY IT'S A STANDING SEAM, STANDING SEAM METAL ROOF PER CITY OF OKLAHOMA STORM WATER PROTECTION PROGRAM.
THAT'S ON THE TRASHING CLOSURE, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND THEN WHAT WILL HAPPEN ON THE EQUIPMENT ROOM? NO, THERE'LL BE NO ROOF.
IS THERE ANY WAY TO MAKE THAT MORE AESTHETIC? UM, THIS IS A CMU BLOCK ENCLOSURE.
UM, CAL, RIGHT PAUL, THIS IS THE, UM, PREFABRICATED SHELTER.
NO, IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S THIS LUMP BLOCK AND IT MATCHES THE EXISTING TRASHING CLOSURE THAT'S GOT THE GREEN DOUBLE GATES.
UM, IF I SHARE MY SCREEN, IF I KNOW HOW I CAN SHOW YOU, BUT THE PARK WANTED US TO MIMIC THAT AND IT'S GOING TO BE, UM, ANY WATER THAT GOES IN THERE, IT'S JUST GOING TO DRAIN INTO THE PLANTER BOXES AND THERE'S GOING TO BE NO RUN OFF INTO THE PARKING AND THE ONLY ROOF THAT'S GOING ON THERE.
I GOT THAT DETAIL FROM THE CITY THAT WAS A STANDARD, UM, FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT OR PUBLIC WORKS.
THAT WAS WHAT THEY WANTED TO BE PUT ON, THE DRAWINGS TO GO OVER THE TRASH AND CLOSURE AND A SHELL NUTS.
SO IT'S TUCKED UP TIGHT TO THE BUILDING.
IT'S GONNA KIND OF JUST BLEND RIGHT IN WITH THE BUILDING AND THE TRASHY CLOSER.
THE ONLY ROOF GOES OVER THE TRASH ENCLOSURE.
AND THEN THE, UH, YOU SEE THE, UH, THE UH, EXHIBIT THAT YOU'RE CURRENTLY SHOWING RIGHT NOW HAS AN ARROW THAT SAYS EXISTING TRASH ENCLOSURE WITH THE NEW METAL ROOF.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT AS PER THIS WHAT THE METAL ROOF IS OF THE BUILDING.
THE ROOF ON THE BUILDING, LOOKING AT THE PICTURES, IT'S RELATIVELY FLAT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
I MEAN IT'S KIND OF GREEN BAND AROUND IT.
UM, THEY UH, THAT, THAT, THAT COULD BE TWEAKED TO HOWEVER YOU WANT IT.
BUT UM, THE BUILDING ADJACENT TO IT PRETTY MUCH SLOT.
SO YOU SEE HOW YOUR ELEVATION HERE IS, IS SHOWING IT SPREADING FROM THE ROOF TOWARDS ME.
NOW LET'S, LET'S MOVE TO THE PAGE PROCEEDING THIS ONE.
SO HERE YOU'RE SHOWING ON THE UPPER RIGHT, ALMOST LIKE A GAME OF LAND THAT'S GOING IN TWO DIRECTIONS AS OPPOSED TO A SHED.
SO WHAT'S GOING ON THAT IS A GOOD CATCH.
IT IS A BIT, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THE STANDARD THAT WE WERE GIVEN, THAT SHOULD JUST BE A SINGLE ANGLE AND IT SHOULD JUST BE LIKE YOU SAID, ONE PITCH GOING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
I BELIEVE IT WAS GOING, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
I THINK, I CAN'T REMEMBER, BUT THE WAY WE WANTED IT TO GO WAS, I BELIEVE THERE'S A PLANNER BOX TO THE EAST OF IT.
SO THE LOGIC WOULD BE IT, THE WATER WOULD RUN OFF AND GO RIGHT INTO THE GROUND.
I THINK THERE IS A PLANTER BOX TO THE EAST SIDE OF IT.
SO LOGIC WOULD SAY IT SHOULD ALL SLOPE TO THE EAST.
SO YEAH, THAT, THAT'S CORRECT.
PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD.
UM, IN RESPONSE TO COMMISSIONER CABRERA, WE DO HAVE A CONDITION OF APPROVAL STATING THAT THE FIELD BITING SHALL BE SHIELDED AS APPROPRIATE AND DIRECTED DOWNWARD TO THE MULTIPURPOSE SALE TO MINIMIZE LIGHT AND GLARE.
TELL COMMISSIONER HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THIS TIME.
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THANK YOU.AND YOU KNOW, OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS HAVE COME IN AT THIS TIME, CORRECT? OH, RIGHT, RIGHT.
WELL, AT THIS TIME, LET'S MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'M NOT SURE WHO SAID THAT, BUT I'LL MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MOROSE SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.
ALL RIGHT, EVERYONE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ALL RIGHT, WELL PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.
ANY OTHER DELIBERATION OR QUESTIONS? UH, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS? YES, MR CIRCO.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I WAS IMPRESSED BY THE SPLASH MAP FOR THE LIGHTING, UH, HAVING DRIVEN BY GRANITE HILLS WHEN THE LIGHTS ARE ON AND KENNEDY PARK WHEN THE LIGHTS ARE ON.
LOOKING AT THAT SPLASH MAP AND HEARING THAT IMPRESSES ME HOW FAR WE'VE COME WITH PARK LIGHTING TECHNOLOGY IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONERS? YES, I THINK IT'S A GOOD PROJECT.
UH, I THINK, UH, THE STATS AND THE APPLICANTS DID A GOOD JOB IN BRINGING EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND ALL THE CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP.
I THINK THEY'D BEEN ALL ADDRESSED AND I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE, UH, WITH THE APPROVAL OR GIVING THE CITY COUNCIL RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL BY THEM.
I, I GREW UP IN THAT AREA IN A, A IN A HOUSE THAT WAS CONDEMNED AFTER WE MOVED OUT.
SO THAT AREA HAS BEEN, UH, BEEN KIND OF A LITTLE PROBLEM CHILD FOR AWHILE AND I SEE HOW THE COMMISSION AND THE CITY IS ADDRESSED, UH, FIXING UP THAT AREA AND I AS A CITIZEN, I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THAT, BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, MAKING IT LOOK MORE, LESS PLEASING, RIGHT.
LIKE MAYBE THIS IS THE BAD PART OF TOWN, SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND JUST ADD MORE WIRES AND MORE OVERHEAD THINGS WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO CLEAN UP THE AREA.
AND WE'VE DONE GREAT EFFORTS TO CLEAN IT UP.
NOW WE HAVE SO MANY OVERHEAD TELEPHONE WIRES AND ELECTRICAL WIRES AND THESE POLES EVERYWHERE.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN EXEMPTION OR WE'RE GOING TO GET EVEN TALLER AND THERE'S NO EFFORT TO REALLY MAKE IT LOOK AESTHETICALLY PLEASING.
IT'S JUST, I THINK IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE A COMPLETE HODGEPODGE OF JUST WIRING AND JUST POLLUTING THE ENTIRE SPACE.
NOT FROM THE 5G BUT FROM VISUAL POLLUTION.
SO I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT GETTING SOME ANSWERS OR LOOKING AT A DIFFERENTLY THAN JUST A PASSING ANOTHER TOWER THAT THAT'S JUST GOING TO MAKE THAT WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD NOT LOOK AS GREAT AS IT DOES NOW.
SOMETIMES WE HAVE DIFFERENT EVENTS THERE AND I ALSO WANT TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT HOW ARE THESE TOWERS BEING THAT TALL, GOING TO AFFECT DIFFERENT EVENTS AND THAT KIND OF THING.
SO I'M, I'M A, I'M ON THE FENCE.
I NEED SOMEBODY TO CONVINCE ME TO SAY YES.
CAN I SAY SOMETHING? YEAH, THIS IS, MY KIDS PLAYED SOCCER FOR YEARS BY KIDS.
WHATEVER FIRST FIELD SHE USED WAS THAT FIELD ALONE.
I WAS THE MANAGER OF A SOCCER TEAM AROUND JAY FOR YEARS.
I HAD TO MOVE AROUND LIGHTS TO FIELD AFTER FIELD AFTER FIELD AFTER FIELD BECAUSE THERE WAS NOT ADEQUATE LIGHTING.
IT WASN'T A SAFE PLACE FOR THE KIDS TO PLAY IN.
YOU HAVE LIMITED TIME ON A FIELD AT NIGHT AND THERE'S SOME OLDER TEAMS THAT WOULD LIKE TO PLAY IN AT NIGHT.
SO I UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT, MAY NOT BE THE MOST AESTHETICALLY PLEASING, BUT I CAN APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THEY ADDED THE LIGHTING BECAUSE I THINK IT IS NEEDED IN THAT AREA.
I THINK IT WOULD ALLOW THE KIDS TO HAVE TIME WITH THE PLAY AND I THINK IF THE KIDS HAD THE TIME ON THE FIELD TO PLAY SOCCER, I DON'T THINK THEY CARE ABOUT A POLE.
I THINK THAT THEY WANT TO PLAY AND HAVING THAT, LETTING THERE WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND HELPFUL FOR THE KIDS TO PLAY.
AND I THINK DOING IT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO ALLOW THEM TO PLAY AND BE A SAFER ENVIRONMENT FOR EVERYONE THAT'S THERE.
CAUSE I KNOW WHEN WE DID PLAY AND I HAD TO MOVE THE LIGHTS OVER THERE, IT WAS A LARGE GENERATOR.
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NOT AESTHETICALLY PLEASING.AND I THINK THESE POLES ARE MUCH BETTER ADDITION THAN A GENERATOR WITH A LIGHT BOX THAT WE HAVE TO REMOVE THE WHEELS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT SOMEONE TO TAKE IT AND HAVE TO LEAVE IT AT THE PARK OR MOVE IT FROM TIME TO, SO I THINK I APPRECIATE THE COMMENT.
I MYSELF LEARN HOW TO WALK AT THAT PART.
SO I WANT TO SAY, UM, I WANT TO ASK YOU A QUESTION THOUGH.
YOU WANT ME TO REOPEN PUBLIC COMMENT? ARE YOU ASKING THE QUESTION TOO? UH, THE LADY THAT JUST SPOKE? YEAH.
WELL I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, REAL QUICK COMMISSIONERS, I JUST ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THIS IS JUST A RECOMMENDATION TO GO TO CITY COUNCIL.
THIS IS NOT A FINAL DECISION AND THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY THERE'LL BE PUBLIC COMMENT AND EVERYTHING THERE.
SO I MEAN, AT THIS POINT, I DON'T WANT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE.
I WANT IT TO BE ON THE RECORD THOUGH THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE LIGHTING THERE, BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE CELL TOWERS.
IS THAT ON THE RECORD YOU'D LIKE TO RECOMMEND AN INDIVIDUAL VOICE FOR BOTH FOR THIS FINAL FELT.
ALL RIGHT, WELL WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A MOTION OR SECOND AND THEN WE CAN DO AN INDIVIDUAL VOICE VOTE.
MAY I SAY SOMETHING BEFORE WE DO THE VOTE? SO THE CITY WORKED WITH A T AND T AND THE REC DEPARTMENT TO RECOMMEND THE LIGHT POLE CONSTRUCTION.
EVEN IF THERE WERE NO WIRELESS CARRIER INVOLVED, WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT THESE POLLS BEING THAT HIGH IN THE FIELD.
SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT THIS AS TWO SEPARATE ISSUES.
WE'RE NOT VOTING AS TWO SEPARATE ISSUES.
WE'RE VOTING THEM AS THE SAME ISSUE.
BUT TO ME THIS IS A DOUBLE WIN FOR THE CITY.
GETTING THE LIGHT POLES BUILT BY A T AND T AND NOT HAVING AN AWKWARD 50 FOOT CONIFER NEXT TO ALL THOSE PALM TREES.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT LIGHT POLES IN A PARK THAT HAPPENED TO ALSO BE A WIRELESS FACILITY.
WHAT'S YOUR
DO WE NEED TO JUST KIND OF HAVE THEM GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE, UH, RECOMMENDATION OR THE, YOU KNOW, REPEAT EVERYTHING AND HE READ IT AND THEY'RE TELLING YOU? YEAH.
UM, WERE YOU ABLE TO LISTEN IN ON THE ENTIRETY OF THE MEETING? OH, I MISSED SOME BECAUSE I WAS DISCONNECTED, BUT I CAN'T, BUT I COULD HEAR THE MEETING.
I CANNOT SPEAK, BUT I COULD HEAR.
YOU'RE ABLE TO LISTEN TO THE ENTIRE MEETING.
GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION IN ORDER TO RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED SECRET EXEMPTION WITH SPECIFIC BRAND SP NUMBER FIVE 32 SUBJECT TO CONDITION.
DO I HEAR A SECOND? ALL RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO DO AN INDIVIDUAL VOICE VOTE.
SO, UH, JUST I VOTE YES TO ADOPT NEXT ONE AT A TIME.
IT GOES ON TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE FINAL DECISIONS.
AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THOSE KIDS, YOU KNOW, PLAY AFTER HOURS.
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SECOND YEAR.[Public Hearing Item 3]
I REMEMBER SPEAKING MARCH.OUR FIRST ONE STORAGE REQUEST IS TO ALLOW FOR AN INCREASED HEIGHT, A PERSONAL STORAGE FACILITY.
IT IS SECRET EXEMPT AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVED.
THEY'RE THE PROJECT BEFORE YOU TODAY.
THE MARSHALL PERSONAL STORAGE FACILITY AS A CFP AMENDMENT, REQUESTS FOR AN AMENDMENT OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER TWO, TWO FIVE ZERO APPROVED AND AUTHORIZED A PERSONAL SELF STORAGE FACILITY AT SIX 26 40 SOUTH MARSHALL DIFFERENTLY A VACANT SITE.
UM, THE AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW FOR AN INCREASE IN HEIGHT OF THE FACILITY.
IT'S AN EXISTING AND PERMITTED HEIGHT OF 35 FEET TO 50 FEET IN HEIGHT.
AND THE NEW PROJECT WOULD GO FROM THREE STORIES OVER BASEMENT TO FIVE STORIES OVER BASEMENT, WHICH RESULTS IN AN INCREASE IN THE BUILDING AREA FROM APPROXIMATELY 60,000 TO APPROXIMATELY 95,000 SQUARE FEET.
THERE ARE NO CHANGES PROPOSED TO THE SITE PLAN.
THE ONLY CHANGES TO THE BUILDING HEIGHT AND BUILDING DESIGN AND GROSS FLOOR AREA.
THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION IN THE GENERAL PLAN AND IT WAS ALSO ZONED BG GENERAL COMMERCIAL SOCIETY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE TRANSIT DISTRICT SPECIFIC PLAN AREA, A PLAN THAT WAS DEVELOPED FOR THE AREA SURROUNDING THE TRANSIT STATION.
AND UM, THE PERSONAL STORAGE IS A CONDITIONALLY PERMITTED USE IN OUR ZONING CODE, MEANING THE YOUTH DOES REQUIRE, I CAN ACTUALLY USE FOR MET TO ENSURE COMPATIBILITY.
AND IN ADDITION TO OUR PERSONAL STORAGE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, SPECIFIC TO THAT USE IN OUR CODE.
THIS IS AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH OF THE SUBJECT SITE LOCATED THERE JUST NORTH OF THE EXISTING BMW DEALERSHIP ON MARSHALL, NORTH OF
AND IT IS, THEY CAN, UM, MOST OF THE IMPROVEMENTS ON THE SITE HAVE BEEN DEMOLISHED.
IT WAS FOR A LONG TIME, A SUBSTANDARD PROPERTY AND UM, THE NEW PROPERTY OWNERSHIP IS WANTING TO MOVE FORWARD AND PROVIDE A BENEFICIAL USE FOR THE PROPERTY IS A SITE PLAN WHICH REMAINS LARGELY UNCHANGED FROM THE APPROVED PROJECTS.
UM, I WILL NOTE HERE THOUGH THERE IS THE MTS RIGHT OF WAY JUST IMMEDIATELY EAST OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL AS OVERHEAD UTILITY LINES THAT RUN ALONG, UM, THE, THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL.
THERE'S REALLY CONSTRAINTS THE POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY AS THE APPLICANT LOOKS, UM, FOR HOW TO INCREASE THEIR NET LEASEABLE AREA.
THEIR ONLY REAL OPTION WAS TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT, UM, BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL PROPERTY AREA TO WORK WITH BECAUSE OF THAT.
SDG AND E, UM, HE'S MET REQUIREMENTS.
IT'S A SEA OF THE APPROVED ELEVATIONS FOR THE PROJECT AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THE APPROVED PROJECTS, VERY CONTEMPORARY DESIGN WITH BLUES AND GREEN AND WHITE AS THE PREDOMINANT COLOR FOR CANOPY FEATURES AS WELL AS THESE, UM, SO STOREFRONT UNIT, UM, AND UH, THE ADDITIONAL SANDHILLS GLASS AND THE NEXT ELEVATION AS THE REVISED STREET ELEVATION.
THIS IS THE ONE THAT HAS THE MOST SIGNIFICANT MODIFICATION FROM THE APPROVED.
THEY DID KEEP THE UM, ELEMENTS, SORT OF THESE VERTICAL, UH, REPETITIVE ELEMENTS THAT KIND OF BREAK UP THE FACADE AND UM, DID SET BACK THE FOURTH AND FIFTH STORY KIND OF BETWEEN THE TWO TOWER PIECES.
UM, SO THAT THE APPEARANCE OF THE PROJECT IS USED FROM MARSHALL AVENUE.
THERE'S A SETBACK THERE AND THE, THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING, UM, TO KEEP IT MORE IN SCALE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE POTENTIAL PEDESTRIAN OR, OR SOMEBODY WHO'S AT THE STREET LEVEL, THEY'VE
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KEPT THE SAME HIGH QUALITY MATERIALS AND DESIGN A C APPROVED PROJECT.UM, THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY SOME MODIFICATIONS TO DEAL WITH THE INCREASE IN HEIGHT.
UM, IF THAT IS WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING, THERE ARE SOME REAL MINOR MODIFICATIONS TO THE OTHER ELEVATIONS PRIMARILY, UM, MODIFICATION OF THE MATERIAL AT THE REAR OF THE BUILDING, WHICH FACES SAM TO GET RIGHT AWAY FROM BLOCK TO STUCCO.
AND THEN THIS IS A RENDERING OF THE PROJECT, UM, THAT WERE TO BE FELT AS LIKE TO NOTE HERE THAT SOME OF THE STREETSCAPE ENHANCEMENTS THAT ARE PART OF THE PROJECT INCLUDE NEW, STRAIGHT LEVEL LANDSCAPING.
AND STREET TREES, UM, WHICH DO IMPLEMENT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE TRANSIT DISTRICT SPECIFIC PLAN.
AND WHILE THE PROJECT, UM, WILL BE, UH, SOMEWHAT HIGHER THAN THE SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT, THE SITE DOES SLOPE UP FROM THE STREET LEVEL TO THE REAR.
AND SO, UM, THE, THE GREATEST HEIGHT AND APPEARANCE WILL BE FROM THE STREET LEVEL AT MARSHALL AVENUE AND THE DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY FOR LARGE FORMAT COMMERCIAL USES IN THE TRANSIT DISTRICT PLAN.
AND THIS LENDS ITSELF TO LARGER FLOOR PLATE USES SUCH AS A SELF STORAGE REQUESTED HEIGHT DEVIATION IS AUTHORIZED THROUGH THE TRANSIT DISTRICT SPECIFIC PLAN.
THE INTENT OF THAT PLAN WAS REALLY TO INCENTIVIZE NEW DEVELOPMENT IN AND AROUND THE TRANSIT DISTRICTS ARE IN AND AROUND THE TRANSIT CENTER, UM, TO ENCOURAGE FOR DOD TYPE DEVELOPMENT, UM, AND BRING IN NEW INVESTMENT INTO THE AREA.
UM, AND SO THE INCREASE IN HEIGHT FROM THE MAXIMUM AUTHORIZED THE 35 FEET TO THE 50 FEET, UM, IS THE WAY THIS MECHANISM IN THIS SPECIFIC PLAN, UH, WHICH DOES REQUIRE THE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE REQUESTS FOR THE DEVIATIONS THAT THE PROJECT DOES HAVE A PUBLIC BENEFIT OR DEVELOPMENT AMENITY.
UM, THEIR PROJECT IS INCLUDING SOME GREEN BUILDING STRATEGIES, UM, OR ENHANCEMENTS INCLUDING LIGHTING CONTROL.
AND THEN THERE ARE THE ENHANCEMENTS TO THE STREETSCAPE THAT I MENTIONED AND NEW STREET TREES AND THAT WE BELIEVE SERVICE DEVELOPMENT AMENITIES FOR THE PROJECT.
THE PREVIOUS PROJECT WAS DETERMINED TO BE A SUBSEQUENT ACTIVITY UNDER THE PROGRAM EIR THAT WAS ADOPTED FROM THE TRIP FOR THE TRANSIT DISTRICT SPECIFIC PLAN.
AND SO, UM, THIS PROJECT HAS SUBSEQUENTLY ALSO BEEN DETERMINED TO BE, UM, WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THAT PROGRAM ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT.
AND SO OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION FIND THAT SECRET DETERMINATION AND ALSO TO APPROVE THE CUP.
THAT SHOULD BE CUP DASH 2020 DASH OR 2019 DASH ZERO ZERO ONE ONE WHICH IS AN AMENDMENT OF THE P NUMBER 2250 SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFF PRESENTATION BELIEVES THE APPLICANT, ROBERT GARMO AS WELL AS THE APPLICANT'S UM, ARCHITECT BRUCE JORDAN ARE AVAILABLE.
UM, MR CHAIR, ONCE YOU ARE READY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND I BELIEVE THERE'S ALSO A PUBLIC COMMENT LETTER SUBMITTED AS WELL.
DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS PROJECT THOUGH? I REALLY LOVED THE WAY THAT THE FRONT, THE EAST SIDE HAS BEEN DEVELOPED.
I LOVE THE TWO TOWERS AND THE STEP BACK AND EVERYTHING THAT BREAKS UP THE SIZE OF THIS GIANT BUILDING.
BUT I WAS LOOKING AT THE WEST ELEVATION AND I WAS WONDERING IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT SIDE BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE TROLLEY COMMUTERS ARE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT, EVEN IF IT WAS AS SIMPLE AS HAVING IVY CLIMBING THE WALL OR SPILLING OFF THE ROOF.
BUT THE WEST ELEVATION IS RATHER BLAND.
I'M GOING TO BE BRINGING UP THE PLANS ON SCREEN-SHARE VERY SHORTLY.
UM, AND IF I MIGHT, UM, ADDRESS THAT BRIEFLY.
WE DID HAVE, UM, DISCUSSIONS REGARDING THIS ELEVATION AND THE CONSTRAINT THERE AND THE APPLICANT CAN ADDRESS THIS MORE IS REALLY THOSE, UH, OVERHEAD SDG ANY WIRES.
UM, ESSENTIALLY SDG ANY DOES NOT WANT ANYTHING, UM, WITHIN ANY
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SORT OF PROXIMITY TO THEIR OVERHEAD, UM, FIRES.AND SO IT REALLY LIMITS WHAT THE APPLICANT WAS ABLE TO DO WITH THAT ELEVATION.
UM, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THEY NEEDED TO KIND OF KEEP THE, THE FACADE FAIRLY UNIFORM, UM, IN ORDER TO MAXIMIZE HER DEVELOPABLE AREA.
WE'LL ADDRESS THAT MORE IN PUBLIC HEARING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? UM, YES, I HAVE ONE.
UH, DO YOU THINK UH, LIGHTING MIGHT HELP? THEY'LL LOOK AT THE BUILDING FROM THE TROLLEY SIDE.
I DO BELIEVE THERE IS LIGHTING ON THAT SIDE.
SO 16 CALL-OUT NUMBER 16, I'VE KIND OF ZOOMED IN HERE QUITE TO SOME EXTENT, BUT YOU'LL SEE THESE SMALL RECTANGLES ALONG THIS FACADE.
THOSE ARE LIGHTING FIXTURES, RIGHT? AND THEY'RE SHINING, UH, AGAINST THE BUILDING SHOOTING UP.
UM, I BELIEVE THEY WOULD BE DIRECTED DOWNWARD BUT I WOULD ASK THE APPLICANT TO CLARIFY THAT.
YES, YOU HAVE LIGHTING THAT GOES UP AND DOWN BOTH WAYS.
IT WOULD MAKE THE BUILDING LOOK A MUCH NICER.
YOU THINK THERE IS A LIGHTING EXHIBIT? SO GIVE ME ONE MOMENT.
UM, I DO BELIEVE IT IS THIS SPECIFICATION SHEET HERE AND SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS AN UPTOWN WALNUT.
I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER IT THAT THE APPLICANT AS TO WHETHER THAT WILL CAST AN UM, BASED ON THEIR CURRENT GREAT QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
HOW ABOUT WE GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING? YES.
UH, HOW MANY STORAGE UNITS WERE IN THE ORIGINAL APPROVED AND HOW MANY STORAGE UNITS ARE THERE NOW? I GET THE FPU MOMENTS AND I WILL GATHER THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU.
OH AND I ALSO HAVE TO, I ACTUALLY HAVE TO MAKE PART OF THE RECORD THAT UH, MELISSA DID SEND ME AN EMAIL WITH THE PREVIOUS UH, APPROVED PLAN SO THAT I CAN MAKE REFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO, WHICH I ALSO HAVE WITH ME AVAILABLE THIS EVENING.
QUICK QUESTION REGARDING IT'S, IT HAS THE GATED ENTRY TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE PARKING.
IS THERE GOING TO BE LIKE A COMBO CODE OR HOW IS THE PUBLIC GOING TO ACCESS THAT TO GET INTO THE FACILITY SINCE THERE ISN'T REALLY A LOT OF STREET PARKING? YES, YES, IT WILL BE A SECURED FACILITY.
AND THERE WILL BE
I DO BELIEVE THAT
THE NUMBER OF IT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK AT AS PART OF THE REGULATORY REVIEW OF A SELF STORAGE.
WE'RE LOOKING MORE AT OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.
WHAT WAS THE AMOUNT OF SETBACK, THE DIFFERENTIAL IN THE SETBACK AMOUNT THAT NEEDED TO BE, UH, ADDITIONAL, I GUESS ADDITIONAL SETBACK AMOUNT.
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HAD, YOU HAD SAID THAT THE, THE, THE S THE REASON WHY THEY WENT HIGHER WAS BECAUSE THE, THEY DISCOVERED A SETBACK THAT WAS MORE THAN WHAT THEY HAD THOUGHT.WHAT WAS THAT AMOUNT? NO, THE ISSUE WAS NOT THAT THEY HAD TO SET A CHANGE.
THE CONFIGURATION OF THE BUILDING, IT WAS, IT WAS IN REFERENCE TO THE FACT THAT THEY COULD NOT ACCESS, YEAH.
BUILDING OUT TO INCREASE
UM, BECAUSE OF THE SETBACK THAT SDG AND E REQUIRES FROM THERE.
UM, THEY HAVE AN EASEMENT THAT THEY ALSO REQUIRE A SETBACK FROM THE ACTUAL ARM OF THE UTILITY LINE.
AND SO THE, I BELIEVE IT'S ABOUT 10 FEET.
UM, SO THEY LOST ABOUT 10 FEET IN THE BUILDING, ADDITIONAL 10 FEET.
SO BASICALLY IF THEY WERE TO HAD DISABLED TO DEVELOP THIS PROPERTY TO ITS FULLEST EXTENT, IF THAT CONSTRAINT HAD NOT BEEN LOCATED THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY, THERE'S QUITE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF AREA THAT CARE BECAUSE THERE IS NO SETBACK REQUIRED FOR AN INTERIOR PROPERTY LINE.
HOW MANY, UH, 56 FOOT TALL BUILDINGS DOES ALCOHOL AND HALF
UM, SO, UM, AND OUR HOTELS ARE NEWER HOTELS IN ADDITION OR A FOUR STORY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? IF NOT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, CAN YOU, UH, MOVE THE PRESENTATION? I GET MY SCREEN BACK.
I CAN MAKE SURE IF ANYONE'S ASKING QUESTIONS.
ALL RIGHT, SO THIS TIME, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC? YES, WE DO.
UH, THE QUESTION IS, I WOULD ASK STAFF EXPLAIN WHY 55 FEET IS BEING ALLOWED VIA A VARIANCE AS OPPOSED TO APPLICANT PROCESSING AS A SPECIFIC PLAN.
PLEASE KNOW I SENT A DETAILED EMAIL TO STAFF AT 6:40 PM IN HOPES TO RESPOND TO MY QUESTION, BUT NOT SURE IF STAFF WILL SEE MY EMAIL BEFORE THE MEETING.
I AM AVAILABLE VIA PHONE OR EMAIL.
SO ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT GRAPH, THAT THAT STARTS TO SLOPE LAB, CORRECT.
AND I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THAT, WHERE THE FREEWAY STARTS OR IS THAT THE OTHER CLUSTER OF BUILDINGS LIKE THE RECYCLING CENTER AND ALL THAT STUFF IN THE ICE HOUSE AND ALL THAT? IS THAT CORRECT? AS ADDITIONAL INDUSTRIAL AREA? UM, BEHIND THE, THE MKS TRACKS.
SO THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL BUILDING UP THERE AND YOU'LL SEE IT IF YOU LOOK IN THE SITE SECTIONS IN THE PLANS.
UM, YOU'LL SEE THE, THIS BUILDING IN RELATION TO THE OTHER BUILDING.
ALL RIGHT, SO, UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AT THIS TIME IF WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
I KNOW THERE WAS A, THAT YOU BRUCE.
SO I KNOW THE QUESTION THAT WE HAD WAS ABOUT THE LIGHTING AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT WAS GOING TO A PROJECT BOTH UPWARDS AND DOWNWARDS.
WHAT'S YOUR PLAN ON THAT? THAT WAS OUR INTENT IS TO HAVE THE LIGHTING PROJECT UP AND DOWN SO IT CAN PROJECT LIKE THE LANDSCAPING ON THE GROUND BUT ALSO THE FACE OF THE BUILDING VERTICALLY.
AND WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE ORIGINAL PLAN AND THE NEW PLAN? IT CAME TO THE NUMBER OF STORAGE UNITS.
THE NUMBER WAS, WAS, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE ORIGINAL NUMBER, BUT IT WAS APPROACHING WAS APPROACHING 600 IT WAS LIKE FIVE 75 OR SO IN TERMS OF UNITS.
AND WE'RE JUST JUST A LITTLE SHY OF 700 UNITS NOW.
SO IN INSTALL STORAGE, IT'S COMMON TO LOOK AT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE BECAUSE SOMETIMES OVER TIME THEY'LL TAKE THOSE UNITS.
IF THE DEMAND DROPS, THEY'LL MAKE SOME OF THE UNITS SMALLER SO THE UNIT COUNT CAN CHANGE OVER TIME.
IT'S VERY TYPICAL FOR SELF STORAGE.
I KNOW YOU HAD SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
UH, SO I LIKE THE IDEA OF UPLIGHTING.
IS THERE ANY VARIATION IN THE UPLIGHTING? I MEAN, NOT THAT IT HAS TO BE A LIGHT SHOW OR ANYTHING, BUT
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IS IT JUST PLAIN WHITE UP LIGHTING ON A WHITE WALL? WELL, IT'S NOT JUST GOING TO WASH THE WHOLE WALL BECAUSE IT WILL BE NARROW AT THE FIXTURE ITSELF AND THEN IT'LL GO UP ON AN ANGLE THAT WIDENS AND ALSO DOWN ON AN ANGLE.SO IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DRAMATIC THAN JUST FLAT UP LIGHTING ON THE BUILDING.
I KNOW IF LED, UH, THE CONTROLS AVAILABLE, HAVE WE'VE GONE SO FAR? UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THE OWNERS HAVE GIVEN ANY THOUGHTS TO HOLIDAY LIGHT LIKE CHRISTMAS OR EASTER OR, UH, NEW YEARS BEING ABLE TO INSTALL COLOR VARIABLE LIGHTS FOR THE UPS SPLASH.
UH, THEY'VE DONE THIS IN RIVERSIDE COUNTY AT THE WATER FACILITY.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN UP THERE, UH, DIAMOND VALLEY LAKE AS THIS HUGE BUILDING AND THERE'S, THERE'S SOME ARCHITECTURAL INTEREST, BUT IT'S NOT AS GREAT AS THE FACT THAT AT NIGHT IT GOT THEIR LIGHTS ON AND THEY HAVE A VERY VARIOUS COLOR PALETTES THAT THEY PUT UP ON THE WALL.
WELL WE MAKE USE OF A LOT OF THEM, ESPECIALLY IN THE WINDOW GLASS THAT'S FACING THE STREET FOR DIFFERENT THEMES OR DIFFERENT HOLIDAYS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S A COMMON THING THAT WE DO TO ALMOST ALL OF OUR BUILDINGS NOW.
ALL OF THESE SELF STORAGE PROJECTS.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU MIGHT DO IN THE UPLIGHTING OR JUST IN THE WINDOWS? WE COULD LOOK IT DOWN.
I'D BE, I'D BE HAPPY TO, UH, ACCOMMODATE THAT.
I THINK THAT COULD BE DONE FAIRLY EASILY.
WE JUST COMPLETED, UM, A BUILDING, UH, WENT THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL AND AZUSA WITH THE LIGHTING AND THEY WERE SO IMPRESSED WITH THAT LIGHTING
AND THE THINGS WE CAN DO WITH THE LED LIGHTING NOW.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS CALLED MINISTERS? YES, CORRECT.
I AS YOU KNOW, I WAS AN EXTREME PROPONENT OF YOUR PROJECT AND I THOUGHT IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.
PROBABLY GOING TO BE ONE OF THE TOP FIVE BUILDINGS IN ALL OF EL CAHONE.
UH, HOWEVER, UH, I'M GONNA JUST TELL YOU RIGHT OFF THE BAT I'M GONNA VOTE NO, I'M NOT HAPPY WITH THIS AT ALL.
UM, I THINK YOUR BEAUTIFUL ARCHITECTURE THAT YOU HAD SET WITH THE LINEAR ALMOST MID CENTURY, KIND OF LIKE ACCENTING THE, WHAT YOU HAD GOING ON WITH, UH, WITH BMW AND HOW WAS YOU EVEN FIGURED THIS STREET AND HOW THE CURVATURE WAS GOING TO WORK ON THE STREET.
NOW I HAVE CONCERNS, I'M CONCERNED THAT WE HAVE NOW 700 UNITS INSTEAD OF 500 AND SOMETHING.
AND I'M CONCERNED THAT YOUR TRASH IS NOT BIG ENOUGH AND THAT PEOP THERE'S NOT ENOUGH PARKING AND THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE OUTSIDE IN THAT AREA AND THEY'RE GOING TO LEAVE THEIR TRASH AND THEIR MATTRESSES AND STUFF ALL OVER THERE.
AND I'M ALWAYS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT CURVE RIGHT THERE WHERE THAT, WHERE THE, WHERE THE UH, WHERE YOU HAVE THE WASH AND THE BMW.
THERE'S BEEN SOME ACCIDENTS THERE AND I'M, I'M REALLY WORRIED ABOUT PEOPLE HAVING TO COME IN AND HAVING TO GO OUT AND IT NOT BEING ONE WAY, IT'S TWO WAY.
AND I, IT'S ALWAYS BEEN A TRICKY THING AND I THINK YOU HAD A GOOD SOLUTION AND NOT OVERPACKING IT.
AND I THINK THAT NOW WE'RE JUST MAKING A, ANOTHER BIG SQUARE BOX IN EL CAHONE CAUSE HONESTLY YOU LOOK AT IT, YOU LOST YOUR, YOU LOST THAT BEAUTIFUL TOWER THAT HAD THAT OFFSETTING PLANE WITH THE METAL ROOF AND IT KIND OF ECHOED THE LINEAR AND NOW IT'S ALL VERTICAL AND IT'S A SQUARE BOX.
AND I DON'T THINK YOUR THREE FOOT OFFSET IS ENOUGH.
MY KNEES THINKING NEEDS TO BE LIKE EIGHT FEET.
IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT RIGHT NOW.
BUT I THINK IN THE END WHEN WE HAVE, WE HAVE, UH, WE, WE HAVE, I WANT WANNA KNOW, YOU KNOW, I WAS BRILLIANT BEFORE.
WHAT, WELL, WHY DID YOU HAVE TO INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF UNITS AND WHY NOT FOUR STORIES INSTEAD OF FIVE? WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO ADDRESS THEM? I WANT YOU TO ADDRESS THAT.
AND THE TRASHING CLOSURE AND THE PARKING CERTAINLY, WELL AGAIN, AS MELISSA MENTIONED, THE SITE PLAN
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HAS NOT CHANGED THE ACCESS, THE TRASH ENCLOSURE.ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THAT IS MOST COMMON TODAY FOR TRASH AND CLOSURES FOR SELF STORAGE, THEY'RE IN A UNIT THAT'S LOCKED UP.
AND THE REASON IS SO THAT THE MANAGER CAN POLICE WHAT GOES INTO THAT TRASH ENCLOSURE.
SO THEY'RE NOT IN THE MATTRESS DISPOSAL BUSINESS.
SO LAST THING IS SELF STORAGE WANTS TO DO IS DEAL WITH THAT KIND OF TRASH AND AN UNINTENDED DRUDGE AND CLOSURE.
SO THESE ARE WATCHED VERY CAREFULLY FOR ENVIRONMENTAL REASONS, FOR A LOT OF REASONS.
SO THE CUSTOMER HAS TO COME INTO THE OFFICE, REQUEST THE KEY SO THE MANAGER CAN WATCH WHAT GOES IN THERE.
SO THEY DON'T GET INTO THE TRASH BUSINESS.
THEY WANT THE CUSTOMER, ALL THAT MATTRESS OUT OF THERE, THEY DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THE TRASH ON IT.
SO, UM, WE'VE DESIGNED ABOUT 5,000 SELF STORAGE PROJECTS NATIONALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY.
WE ACTUALLY WRITE A LOT OF ORDINANCES FOR SELF STORAGE AND CONSULT TO A LOT OF CITIES.
SO THIS IS A VERY COMMON AND VERY TYPICAL THING AND, AND SELF STORAGE OF TODAY TO HAVE A, UM, CONTAINED LOCKED UP TRASH ENCLOSURE THAT'S CONTROLLED BY THE MANAGER.
SO HOPEFULLY THAT ADDRESSES, UM, THAT UM, WHAT WE DID THE RE ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE HAD TO COME BACK AND REQUEST THE ADDITIONAL HEIGHT, THE EASEMENT ON THE BACK, WE HAVE A LITTLE OVER 25 FEET OF SETBACK ON THE REAR, ON THE, ON THE RAILROAD SIDE, ON THE LIGHT RAIL SIDE, IT WAS THE SAME.
BUT WHAT HAPPENED IS AFTER WE GET THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION, WE WENT TO BED.
THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION, THE COST OF THE LAND, THE PROJECT WAS NOT FEASIBLE FINANCIALLY.
SO WE WENT BACK, SAT DOWN WITH STAFF, UH, TO BE ABLE TO ADD THIS.
AND NOW WE HAVE REBID THE PROJECT AND NOW IT IS FINANCIALLY VIABLE.
UM, THE ADDITIONAL SQUARE FOOT WE ADDED MADE THAT DIFFERENCE.
SO WE BELIEVE THAT THE UPPER ACTUALLY YOU MENTIONED AS A BOX AND IT HAS LESS OF A BOX NOW BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THE FOURTH AND FIFTH FLOOR ARE SETBACK AND DECOUPLED FROM THE FRONT FACE.
SO I FEEL THAT THE, THE UM, UH, THE ARTICULATION ON THE BUILDING IS REALLY QUITE GOOD AND I FEEL QUITE GOOD ABOUT IT.
WE HAD THIS, I THINK YOU HAD IT WHEN YOU HAD THE, THE TOWER AND THE ENTRANCE.
IT DIDN'T SAY SELF STORAGE AND IT DIDN'T HAVE TO MIRROR THINGS.
YEAH, I THINK YOU HAD SOME KIND OF, I THINK YOU HAD A REALLY NICE FLAIR ABOUT THAT ONE.
IT WAS A SEPARATE LITTLE ENTRANCE AND A TOWER WITH ITS OWN COVER.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE, YOU HAVE THE MARRYING IT TO THE GROUND WITH THE OTHER CARVERS AND NOW YOU JUST HAVE TWO BIG SQUARE BOXES ON EITHER AND IT LOOKS LIKE A SELF STORAGE.
IT DIDN'T LOOK LIKE A SELF STORAGE BEFORE.
NOW IT'S, AND HERE IS WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS.
I, I, I WANT YOU TO ADDRESS SOMETHING HERE.
I'M SURE YOU'VE READ ABOUT IT AND YEAH, YOU'VE TAKEN A LOT OF TIME BECAUSE YOU, YOU, YOU ARE A FANTASTIC ARCHITECT.
I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM YOU.
THAT THERE, THERE WAS A LOT OF, A LOT OF DEBATE, UH, WHEN THE CITY WAS COMING UP WITH THIS AREA AND TRYING TO TRY TO GET HAPPENING EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
WE WANT TO FIX UP THIS AREA, BUT IT CALLS FOR CALMING MEASURES, UH, REINFORCING A SENSE OF PLACE AND COMMUNITY AND LANDSCAPING AND WALKABILITY AND A FOCUS ON RESIDENTIAL USES AND AN BONUSES, DENSITIES FOR PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY MAKE SMALLER FORMS. THIS IS NOT A SMALL FORM.
NOW YOU HAVE A SIDEWALK AND A BIG TALL BUILDING AND IT'S ONE OF THE TALLEST ONES IN ALL OF OKLAHOMA.
AND IT'S, I DON'T THINK THAT'S NOT WHAT THAT FLAVOR WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THAT AREA.
I WANT TO SEE IT FARTHER BACK.
I DON'T WANT TO SEE A LITTLE THREE FOOT SETBACK ON SOMETHING THAT IS 56 FEET TALL.
IT'S NOT GONNA, IT'S NOT GONNA FINISH STRAIGHT.
IT'S NOT GOING TO SHOW US ANOTHER ARTICULATION ON THE SHOW THAT WAY, BUT NOT IN REAL LIFE IN.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUILDING AND HOW IT'S SITUATED RELATIVE TO THE OTHER BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW IT IS 56 AT THE STREET LEVEL, WHICH IS SUBSTANTIALLY LOWER THAN THE REAR SIDE.
SO THE REAR OF THE BUILDING IS ABOUT THE SAME HEIGHT AS THE BUILDING ACROSS THE TRACKS FROM IT.
I THOUGHT IT WAS THE WAY YOU HANDLED IT BEFORE WHERE YOU SAID, OKAY LOOK, I'M GOING TO TAKE THE MEAN AND THEN I'M GOING TO GO 35 FEET AND THIS IS WHAT I HAVE.
AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS BRILLIANT.
LIKE I SAID THAT BEFORE, YOU'RE A BRILLIANT ARCHITECT.
IT LOOKED BEAUTIFUL, BUT NOW I THINK SOMEBODY HAS FORCED YOU INTO DOING SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE OF PROFITABILITY, HONESTLY.
WELL THAT'S, THAT'S A MAJOR CONSIDERATION OF ANY DEVELOPMENT.
THE DEVELOPMENT WASN'T GOING TO HAPPEN
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AND PRIOR.SO ADDING THE TWO STORIES MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE FOR THAT.
I JUST ALWAYS FEEL LIKE ELTA HONE IT GETS THIS GETS THE BAD RAP.
I MEAN WHY CAN'T WE HAVE THE BEAUTIFUL BUILDING? YOU PRESENTED THIS BEFORE AND NOW WE GET A BOX LIKE WE ALWAYS DO AND WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A, I'M THE PR, I'M THE FIRST PERSON THAT HITS THAT 35 FOOT REQUIREMENT.
I DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE IT MAKES 10 10 10 PLUS TWO FEET FOR THE FLOOR JOYS.
AND THEN IT GIVES YOU WHAT THE WHAT A FLAT ROOF OR A MANSARD AND THEY'LL COME LIFT SLOPPY LIKE ABOUT THE FLAT ROOFS, THE MANSARDS EVERYWHERE.
LIKE WE'RE STILL LIVING IN THE 70S I HATE THAT.
SO I LOVE WHAT YOU DID BEFORE AND WHAT YOUR SOLUTION WAS AND HOW THE TOWERS AND THE PARAPETS CAME DOWN AND CAME UP AND IT GAVE IT LIKE A DIFFERENT FLAIR IN BETWEEN WITH THE MATERIALS.
AND NOW IT'S JUST, I THINK YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
WELL LET, LET ME THROW OUT A COUPLE OF THINGS.
YOUR ORIGINAL ON DESIGN WAS A VERTICAL, WAS MORE OF A BOX.
AND THIS ONE IS, YOU MENTIONED AT THE ONSET OF YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT THE PARAPETS ON THE TOWERS AND HOW THEY WERE MORE HORIZONTAL IF THE COMMISSION SO DESIRES.
I'M HAPPY TO GO BACK AND WORK WITH STAFF TO GET THE TERMINATION OF THOSE TOWERS CLOSER TO THE ORIGINAL DESIGN.
I LIKED THE WAY THAT YOU HAD A GLASS, MAYBE YOU MAKE ONE ON THE LEFT, ALL THE LAST WITH THE ROOF STRUCTURE THAT YOU HAD BEFORE AND YOU ONLY GO FOUR STORIES INSTEAD OF FIVE.
WELL THIS THE, THE STORY, THE REDUCTION OF THE STORY WILL KILL A PROJECT AND IN THE TRANSFER, NO, I KNOW, I KNOW THE COSTS CAME IN AND SO MUCH HIGHER BECAUSE OF THE SMALL SITE.
IT'S ONLY 0.59 ACRES AND THE FACT THAT THE PARTIAL BASEMENT AND AN ALL OF THE, THE SHORING AND WATERPROOFING WITH IT.
SO THAT KIND OF CAUGHT US AND THAT'S WHY WE HAD TO GO TO THE, THE TWO ADDITIONAL STORIES.
I KNOW ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL BUILDINGS IS THAT BMW.
I DON'T THINK YOU ARGUE WITH ME ON THAT.
SO THEN I'M COMING AROUND THE CORNER AND I SEE SOMETHING THAT'S HORIZONTAL OR LINEAR AND MODERN AND BEAUTIFUL AND ALMOST MID CENTURY KIND OF LOOKING IN.
AND THEN I COME ACROSS THIS AND IT WAS A BIG THING.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, FOUR STORIES TALLER.
I DROVE IT THREE OR FOUR TIMES JUST TO TRY TO GET THE FLAVOR OF IT.
I DON'T, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TALK ME INTO IT CAUSE I'M GOING TO VOTE.
WELL I THINK THE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A VERY NEEDED, UM, LAND USE IN THE CITY.
THE DEMAND DEMAND IS SO, UM, AND, AND IT IS A SMALL FOOTPRINT.
IT'S NOT A BIG MASSIVE BUILDING THAT WILL HAVE AN ACOUSTICAL BENEFIT TO THE RESIDENTS ACROSS THE STREET.
THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS AT THIS PROJECT.
SO AGAIN, IF THE COMMISSION FEELS STRONGLY UNHAPPY TO WORK WITH THE STAFF TO GET THE ORIGINAL TERMINATIONS OF THOSE TOWERS BACK TO WHERE WE WERE ON THE ORIGINAL.
UM, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE VISIBILITY OF, UH, CONSTRUCTING THAT BUILDING AND SO FAR AS, UH, MAKING A, AN OFFER.
UM, AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, BEING A STORAGE PLACE, UH, PEOPLE NOT LIVE THERE.
SO HOW, HOW MUCH TRAFFIC DO YOU THINK YOU CAN GET IN THAT PLACE WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE STORING STUFF AND UH, YOU KNOW, NOT COMING IN AND OUT JUST COMING IN AND ONCE IN A GREAT WHILE T TO PICK UP SOMETHING OR DELIVER SOMETHING.
HOW MUCH TRAFFIC DO YOU EXPECT IN AND OUT OF THAT BUILDING? COMMISSIONER? I'D BE HAPPY TO ADDRESS THAT.
THAT'S SOMETHING I HAVE THE FACTS ON.
SELF STORAGE GENERATES THE LOWEST OF ANY RETAIL OR COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC THERE IS, IT'S ABOUT 2.4 TRIPS PER THOUSAND, EXTREMELY LIGHT.
AND WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT CONVENTIONAL PATRON OF A SELF STORAGE WILL VISIT THEIR GOODS FOR 10 MINUTES ONCE EVERY 90 DAYS.
SO THE AMOUNT OF ONSITE TRAFFIC IS EXTREMELY LOW AND THE, THE PEAK TRAFFIC TIMES ARE OFFSET PEAK COMMUTE TIMES FOR WORK.
SO IT DOESN'T GET ANY BETTER THAN SELF
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STORAGE FOR BEING A LOW TRAFFIC IMPACTING USE.VERY LOW TIME ON SITE, VERY LOW TRIP GENERATION TO THE SITE.
UM, AND SO FAR AS THAT TRASHY TRUST CONCERNS, UH, AND THEY SELF SPRITZ PLACE, IS THERE POTENTIAL OF PEOPLE THROWING THEIR TRASH IN THE STREETS OR ARE THERE THINGS IN THE STREETS? NOT THE WAY WE HANDLE IT TODAY.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHY THE MANAGERS ARE SO INVOLVED IN POLICING THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN'T GET AWAY WITH ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IF THERE'S TV, WHAT WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE ABOUT 40 TV CAMERAS HERE, RECORDING EVERYTHING THAT GOES ON SITE.
AND THE WAY WE MAKE THAT SUCH A STRONG STATEMENT IS WHEN YOU WALK IN FROM THE PARKING AREA INTO THE OFFICE AND YOU SEE THROUGH THAT CLEAR GLASS, WE HAVE PLASMA SCREENS, LARGE PLASMA SCREENS DEPICTING ALL OF THOSE, THOSE CAMERAS SHOWING UH, THE PATRON COMING IN.
HE KNOWS THAT HE CAN'T BE ANYWHERE ON THAT SITE AND NOT BE RECORDED ON THE CAMERA.
SO THAT'S WHY THERE IS SO LITTLE CRIME.
AND SO LITTLE OF THIS GOING ON AND THE WELL-DESIGNED SELF STORAGE FACILITIES OF TODAY, IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN LIKE THAT BECAUSE OF THE ADVANCED SECURITY WE HAVE.
AND THE BUILDING WILL BE WELL LIGHTED ON THE SIDE.
AND THE FRONT AND IN THE BACK IT WILL BE LIT ALL THE WAY AROUND WHICH SHIELD IT CUT OFF LIGHTING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, WELL I LIKE
UM, IT'S ANOTHER STEP IN THE CLEAN THAT MALARIA DOES.
UH, LOOK NICE NEXT TO THE BMW OR SHIP AS WELL.
SO APPRECIATE YOUR GOOD PROJECTS.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR, FOR THE APPLICANT OR DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER, UH, HAVE WE GOT ENOUGH TIME FOR PEOPLE TO PUBLIC COMMENT? HOLD ON JUST ONE MOMENT AND MAY I SAY, MAY I SAY SOMETHING PLEASE? YES, THEY WERE DEAD.
UH, LAST YEAR WHEN WE FILED FOR THE, UH, FOR THE SITE PLAN FOR THE, THE THREE STORIES PLUS THE BASEMENT, WE DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION WE HAVE TODAY.
UH, THE, THE BIGGEST ONE WAS THE SHORING AND THE SDG AND E ISSUE, WHICH HONESTLY JUST TOOK MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS AND TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAD TO APPEASE THEM.
YOU COUPLE THOSE ISSUES WITH A, WITH A, WITH A TRADE WAR THAT WE HAVE WITH CHINA AND I'M ALL FOR IT.
UH, I'M ALL FOR THAT, BUT IT, UH, THE COST OF CONSTRUCTION, THE COST OF STEEL, THE COST OF EVERYTHING JUST WENT UP AND, AND SO IT HONESTLY, IT WAS JUST A MATTER OF A BUSINESS DECISION WHETHER THIS, YOU KNOW, THE THREE STORIES PLUS A BASEMENT WOULD WORK AND IT'S JUST BASED ON
AND BASED ON THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE, THE COST OF THE SHORING, THIS IS NOT A FLAT PAD.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF DIGGING THAT HAS TO GO INTO PLACE.
A LOT OF SHORING HAS TO GO INTO PLACE, BUT IN WORKING WITH STAFF, WE USE THE BEST OF MATERIALS, THE BEST OF LIGHTING, THE BEST OF EVERYTHING TO HONESTLY BRING SOMETHING TO ALCOHOL THAT WE CAN ALL BE PROUD OF.
THIS IS ONE OF THE FIRST BUILDINGS THAT'S GOING TO GO ON THAT, THAT STREET AND THE TRANS DISTRICT PLAN CALLS FOR HIGHER DENSITY.
IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, DEVIATING FROM WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE IN CONE TO SAY, WELL THIS IS GOING TO BE A SORE EYE.
I THINK THE OPPOSITE WILL BE TRUE.
THIS WILL ATTRACT OTHER BIG TIME USERS TO SAY, LOOK, I CAN GO A LITTLE BIT HIGHER AND BRING MY PROJECT TO EL CAHONE WHERE YOU KNOW ALL THESE OTHER OTHER BUILDINGS ARE POPPING UP.
SO I THINK THIS, THIS IS ACTUALLY A, A, A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION TOWARD ATTRACTING BUSINESSES THAT CAN SEE THE POTENTIAL TO GO A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH YOU GOING A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
YOU ARE, YOU'RE ADDING 200 MORE UNITS.
THIS IS NOT JUST A LITTLE BIT HIGHER.
I'M OFFERING, YOU'RE GETTING ANOTHER FLOOR.
I'M NOT FOR YOU TAKING ADVANTAGE OF A RULE.
I'M ALSO NOT FOR YOU CHANGING THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARD, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE
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REINFORCING CALMING MEASURES, SMALL FORMS, A SENSE OF PLACE AND COMMUNITY.AND THEN WE HAVE JUST A FIVE FOOT 56 TALL WALK FOOT TALL WALL THERE.
AND I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE ELKANNS TWO TALLEST BUILDINGS BE A STORAGE FACILITY AND A FORMER PRISON.
AND I'M THINKING ABOUT THE RESIDENTS TOO.
ON THE PURE SIDE, THE PEOPLE ON THE PURE SIDE, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FREEWAY, THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK AT US BECAUSE THEY DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO CHIME IN HERE BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT WITHIN THE AREA.
BUT THOSE RESIDENTS ON THE OTHER SIDE HAVE BEAUTIFUL VIEWS, GREAT STUFF.
AND NOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT A BACKSIDE OF A STORAGE FACILITY.
AND I'M ASKING YOU TO TAKE A FLOOR OFF OF IT.
I'M NOT TELLING YOU TO GO THREE STORIES.
I'M SAYING JUST DON'T BE TOO GREEDY.
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT GREED ABOUT THIS AT ALL.
IT'S, IT'S JUST A, IT'S A MATTER OF, OF, OF THE ECONOMICS OF THE DEAL.
UH, YOU KNOW, IF, IF THE SHOWING COSTS WERE REASONABLE, I THINK WE, UH, WE, THAT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN A, YOU KNOW, AN OPTION.
IF THE COST WOULD HAVE BEEN A COST OF CONSTRUCTION WOULD HAVE BEEN REASONABLE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN OPTION.
I SAID, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S BRUCE PUT IT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE RIGHT THING OR
THAT SPECIFIC THAT MR GUILLERMO, I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING IN ALCOHOL.
I LOVE THE FACT THAT YOU TOOK THIS SITE.
I WENT BACK TO MY WIFE AND I SAID, FINALLY, SOMEBODY IS GOING TO DO SOMETHING HERE AND THIS ARCHITECT IS AMAZING.
HE'S GREAT, AND NOW I SEEM LIKE, IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE YOU'RE JUST TAKING ADVANTAGE OF ALCOHOL AND I DON'T LIKE THAT.
AND THEN YOU KNEW THAT YOU, YOU THAT THE SHORING AND YOU KNEW THAT THE GRADING HAD TO BE THAT WAY BECAUSE IT WAS IN HIS ORDERS, VERY SUBMITTED.
YOU LOOK AT HIS CROSS SECTION, IT HAD THE SHORING, IT HAD THE, IT HAD THE RETAINING WALLS AND IT HAPPENED NECESSARY.
MAKE HIM GO BACK AND DESIGN SOMETHING JUST AS BRILLIANT AND THEN DON'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HIS BRILLIANCE.
COMMISSIONER DART HAS SOMETHING TO SAY.
AT THIS POINT
SO I WOULD APPRECIATE IT UNLESS YOU EVER SEE MY SWEAT FOR HIM AND THIS CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW.
IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTION? QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
ALL RIGHT, WELL AT THIS POINT I'M GOING TO MAKE THE MOST OF THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
ARE WE DOING ONE MORE TIME? GO AHEAD.
THERE WAS ONE ADDITIONAL COMMENT SUBMITTED AS A FOLLOW UP TO THE ORIGINAL COMMENT I'M ASKING THAT WE RESPOND TO THE QUESTION AND THAT QUESTION WAS IF HE COULD READ IT.
THE QUESTION WAS REGARDING WHY THIS HIGH INCREASE IS NOT BEING PROCESSED, PROCESSED AS A SPECIFIC PLAN, WHY IT IS BEING DONE AS A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO RESPOND? AS I MENTIONED IN MY PRESENTATION, THE INCREASE IN HEIGHT IS PERMITTED THROUGH THE TRANSIT DISTRICT SPECIFIC PLAN.
THIS IS NOT A PRIVILEGE THAT, UM, OTHER PROPERTIES IN THE CITIES MAY ENJOY.
SO ANOTHER PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND ANOTHER AREA THAT CHOOSES TO EXCEED OR WISHES TO EXCEED THE HEIGHT LIMIT WOULD NEED A, THEIR OWN SPECIFIC PLANS.
AND WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THE BUILDING THAT WAS ON MAGNOLIA IN MAINE IS THAT WHEN WE SAID WAS ABOUT 56 FEET, THAT ONE I DO BELIEVE HAS A SPECIFIC PLAN.
IT'S ALSO WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN AREA, WHICH ALSO ALLOWS FOR SOME DEVIATIONS TO HEIGHT LIMIT.
IS THERE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? NO, WE'VE RECEIVED NO FREIGHT OF PUBLIC COMMENT.
WELL THIS TIME I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING A SECOND.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ROSE.
SECONDED BY MR. SO TLA, PLEASE VOTE.
DO YOU WANT TO DO ROLL CALL? CLOSING UP SECURITY? I'LL CALL THEM.
COMMISSIONER KIBERA? NO, SURE, SURE.
COMMISSIONER PAULA CRUDE? YES.
UH, IS THERE ANY MORE DELIBERATION?
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I WOULDN'T MIND ECHOING A HUMBERT ON THE TOWERS AND UH, BRUCE SUGGESTED HE COULD GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE PLANS TO GIVE THE FRONT A LITTLE MORE FLARE.VERY HAPPY TO WORK WITH STAFF ON THAT.
AND THE OTHER AND IS THAT IN THE MINUTE? YES, I HAVE A COMMENT.
SO LOOKING AT THE AREA, WE'VE SEEN THAT THE AREA HAS A PROBLEM WITH THAT DEGREE AND ALSO PROBLEM WITH THE PEOPLE LIVING THERE DOING WHATEVER IT IS MEAN THEY'RE LIKE HOMELESS PEOPLE AND SO FORTH.
AND HOW DID HE, WHAT TYPE OF BUILDING IN THAT LOCATION MORE RIGHT NOW IT'S AN EYESORE.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT IMPROVEMENT FOR THE CITY ABOUT THE HOME AND A GREAT IMPROVEMENT FOR MUNCH WITH ABIGAIL AND ALSO A GREAT IMPROVEMENT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ON THE TROLLEYS INSTEAD OF SEEING ALL THAT DEBRIEF AND A DECENT MAN AND SEE A BUILDING THERE.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT CAT.
SO EVEN THOUGH THERE MAY BE SOME IMPROVEMENTS AND WE GOT TO THE UH, THE WAY THE BUILDINGS AND LOOK, IT'S, YOU KNOW,
I THINK IT'S WELL WORTH IT AS LONG THOUGH, INSTEAD THE CITY OF ELKO.
ALL RIGHT, WELL IF THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENTS, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION.
I MOVED TO THE UP THE NEXT RESOLUTION IN ORDER APPROVING THE SEQUENCE DETERMINATION IN CUP TWO ZERO ONE NINE DASH ZERO ZERO ONE ONE AMENDING ECP 2250 SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MOROSE, SECONDED BY MR CIRCO.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THE MOTION.
WELL MOTION CARRIES AND I KNOW YOU'LL BE WORKING WITH STAFF ON SOME OF THOSE DETAILS.
APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THE PROJECT IN AND FINDING A WAY TO MAKE IT WORK AND NOW THAT AREA HAS BLIGHTED FOR A LONG TIME.
SO WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS DOING THAT.
VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH STAFF AND AND UH, THIS IS GOING TO BE A GOOD PROJECT.
THANK YOU MELISSA FOR ALL YOUR HELP.
I APPRECIATE, UH, I APPRECIATE THIS VERY MUCH.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY I DIDN'T, I DID NOT MEAN TO BROW BEAT YOU.
I DO APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH AND I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE A VERY, VERY, VERY TALENTED ARCHITECT.
WE ARE ONLY TRYING TO CHOOSE THE BEST.
AND I, UH, I SECOND THAT HE'S VERY TALENTED AND WE'RE ONLY, UH, NOT ONLY IN ARCHITECTS, UH, WELL ALL THE PLAYERS INVOLVED ARE TOP NOTCH.
I WAS GOING TO SAY, OKAY, SO OUR FINAL AGENDA ITEM JUST SO WE GET BACK TO THE TOP HERE.
SO NOW WE'LL
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ELECTION FOR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR FOR THE NEXT TERM.UH, IT USUALLY RUNS FROM MARCH TO MARCH, BUT WE'VE KIND OF GONE FOR A WHILE, SO GONE A LITTLE BIT LONGER.
BUT IS THAT STILL KIND OF OUR TIMELINE? IT'S ABOUT MARCH TO MARCH.
IT'S ABOUT A 12 MONTHS FROM THE ELECTION DAY.
DID WE DO APRIL? OKAY, GREAT, GREAT, PERFECT.
SO THIS TIME THE CHAIRMAN SHIP AND THE VICE CHAIRMAN SHIP IS UP FOR A NOMINATION AND WE NEED TO HAVE A MOTION OR THIS TIME, LET'S START WITH THE CHAIR.
DO I HEAR A MOTION FOR THE CHAIR? NOT TO BE SELF-SERVING, BUT I, I CAN'T REMEMBER.
THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF US WHO'VE BEEN BALANCING BACK
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AND FORTH.IF, IF YOU ARE WILLING, I WOULD PROPOSE MYSELF AS A CHAIR FOR THE NEXT YEAR.
DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THAT MOTION? I SECOND IT.
SO TLA, SHOULD WE DO A ROLL CALL VOTE BUT THE CHAIR.
AND SO THE CHAIR ELECTION HAS NOW WE MOVED
AND UH, LET'S GO AND DO A VOICE VOICE VOTE ON THAT.
AND THAT MOTION CARRIES AS WELL.
AS OF THE NEXT MEETING, I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT'LL WORK.
IT'LL BE IN THESE CHAMBERS ALTOGETHER OR ARE WE DOING ANOTHER ONE OF THESE? BUT I'M SURE IT WILL BE INTERESTING EITHER WAY.
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STAFF COMMUNICATION AT THIS TIME? YEAH, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF.I NOTICED THAT THERE WAS SOME DEMO BEING DONE FINALLY ON THE SALVATION ARMY BUILDING.
HOW'S THAT GOING? I THINK IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO MOVING ALONG, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING TO CELEBRATE.
THE BUILDING AT ONE ZERO ONE EAST MAIN STREET WAS DEMOLISHED TO MAKE WAY FOR A NEW MIXED USE PROJECT THAT HAS LONG BEEN AWAITED BY THE COMMISSION.
SO WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE THAT PROJECT AND TO SEE THAT AS WELL BECAUSE I THINK IT'S GOING TO KIND OF BE THE FIRST OF MANY HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW WITH THE RETAIL ON THE BOTTOM FLOOR AND A FEW APARTMENTS UP TOP, NOT TOO TOO HIGH DENSITY, BUT JUST ENOUGH.
ANOTHER QUICK PROJECT HIGHLIGHT I WOULD OFFER TO YOU IS THE HAMPTON INN IS NOW CONCEITED.
THEY'RE LEADING, OBVIOUSLY DUE TO ISSUES WITH THE COVERT 19 FOR THEIR GRAND OPENING, BUT THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
AND CAN HELP YOU ALL COMMISSIONERS.
DO I HAVE A MOTION? ARMY SIGN IS WORTH A LOT OF MONEY.
AMERICAN PICKERS NEEDS TO COME OUT AND GRAB IT.
WE'LL SELL COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, I CAN GO AHEAD AND I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO ADJOURN.
WHOEVER SECOND MOST OF BY MOROSE, PLEASE VOTE.
AND DO YOU NEED A ROLL CALL? VOTE ON IT OR SO QUICKLY.
AND DO WE KNOW WHEN THE NEXT MEETING IS SCHEDULED? WE DON'T CURRENTLY HAVE THE NEXT MEETING SCHEDULED AT THE FIRST MEETING IN MAY.
WILL BE CANCELED, UM, THAT WE'RE WAITING TO SEE ABOUT THE SECOND MEETING.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, THE MOTION TO TURN PASSES AND UH, Y'ALL STAY SAFE OUT THERE.
DID YOU SEE AND, OR HEAR FROM EACH OF YOU? ALL RIGHT, LIKEWISE.