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RIGHT.

WELCOME TO THE EVENING SESSION OF THE

[ CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Bill Wells]

CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

THE MEDIA IS CALLED THE ORDER AND I WILL ASK OUR DEPUTY CITY CLERK TO CALL THE ROLE COUNCIL MEMBER.

KARPELES.

ABSENT ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

THANKS FOR MUCH.

WOULD YOU PLEASE STAY WITH ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THEN REMAIN STANDING FOR A BRIEF MOMENT OF SILENCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

UM, AGENDA CHANGES.

STAFF.

DO WE HAVE ANY AGENDA CHANGES, MR MAYOR? WE HAVE NO CHANGES TO THE AGENDA.

COUNCIL MEMBERS.

OKAY.

[ PUBLIC COMMENT: At this time, any person may address a matter within the jurisdiction of the City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the El Cajon Redevelopment Agency that is not on the Agenda. Comments relating to items on today’s docket are to be taken at the time the item is heard. State law prohibits discussion or action on items not on the Agenda; however, Council, Authority and Agency Members may briefly respond to statements or questions. An item may be placed on a future Agenda.]

WE ARE A PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS A MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE ALCOHOL REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.

THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

COMMENTS RELATING TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA ALREADY BEEN TAKEN AT THE TIME THAT THE ANIMAL IS HEARD.

STATE LAW PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

HOWEVER, COUNCIL AUTHORITY AND AGENCY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND TO STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS AND AN ITEM MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

JACKIE, DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS THAT ARE PUBLIC CARBON? YES SIR.

WE HAVE ONE CARD.

RONNIE PETERSON.

LEILANI, WELCOME.

OKAY.

MY AUNT .

THANK YOU.

YEAH, I'M RONNIE PETERSON AND UM, I LIVE AT 1437 DIAMOND LANE AND OKLAHOMA FOR THE PAST 19 YEARS AND I'VE BEEN LIVING IN EAST COUNTY SINCE 1970.

I'M ACTUALLY A TEACHER IN THE GO HOME VALLEY UNION SCHOOL DISTRICT.

THIS IS MY 30TH YEAR TEACHING FIFTH GRADE.

I'M ALSO PROFESSIONAL SOCCER AND FOOTBALL COACH IN THE COMMUNITY SINCE 84.

I'M A PARISHIONER OVER AT HOLY TRINITY CATHOLIC CHURCH AND A KNIGHT OF COLUMBUS BY CHILDREN FIVE AND SEVEN GO TO BOSTONIAN LANGUAGE ACADEMY.

ANYWAY, WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT IS GREENFIELD DRIVERS BECOME A DIFFERENT KIND OF GREEN.

LATELY IT'S MY TITLE TO CATCH MY DRIFT.

MY CONCERN IS THAT MANY KIDS WALK ALONG GREENFIELD DRIVE TO GET BOTH THE GREENFIELD MIDDLE SCHOOL AND MAGNOLIA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL EACH DAY, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY WHEN SCHOOL IS IN SESSION.

TRAFFIC IS BAD AND DANGEROUS BECAUSE OF THE MULTIPLE MARIJUANA DISPENSARY IS ALL LOCATED IN THE SAME CLOSE PROXIMITY TO ONE ANOTHER.

PARKING ATTENDANTS AT THESE DISPENSARY IS QUITE OFTEN STOP TRAFFIC ON GREENFIELD DRIVE TO LET THEIR CUSTOMERS MERGE INTO TRAFFIC AFTER A PURCHASE.

THERE ARE SEVEN TO 10 MARIJUANA DISPENSARIES BETWEEN MOLLISON AND SECOND STREET ALONG GREENFIELD DRIVE AND IT SEEMS EXCESSIVE TO ME.

SIX ARE ACTIVE TODAY.

HYDRO BUYING WROTE DOWN ADDRESSES.

I ALSO DO NOT THINK IT'S GOOD FOR PROPERTY VALUES WHEN THERE ARE ALL THESE DISPENSARY'S.

NOW I ALREADY KNOW I'M PREACHING TO THE CHOIR.

I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE SHUT DOWN 70 OF THEM, BUT THE LAST FEW YEARS I'VE NOTICED SEVERAL MARIJUANA DISPENSARY IS LONG GREENFIELD DRIVE BETWEEN MOLLISON AND SECOND AND I'M JUST, THESE ARE JUST RHETORICAL QUESTIONS, SO MAYBE AT THE END IF YOU WANT TO FEEL ANSWERED, YOU CAN.

ARE THERE ANY REGULATIONS ABOUT HOW MANY OF THESE DISPENSARIES CAN BE LOCATED WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE OF EACH OTHER? IT APPEARS THERE ARE NO LIMITS LIKE THIS IN PLACE YET.

THE GOOD NEWS IS ONE OF THE DISPENSARY'S, WHICH WAS AT NINE 75 GREENFIELD DRIVE, WHICH ONCE WAS A DIVE BAR AND THEN A DISPENSARY HAS BECOME THAT BUCKBOARD BARBECUE RESTAURANT.

THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY GOOD.

THAT'S ABOUT THE ONLY GOOD NEWS TODAY, RIGHT IN FRONT OF MY STREET AT 10 20 GREENFIELD DRIVE IS THE NEWEST DISPENSARY.

IT WAS EIGHT, EIGHT EXCAVATING ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS.

BUT A NEW MARIJUANA DISPENSARY OPENED A DAY AT THE CORNER OF THE STREET.

I LIVE ON DIAMOND IN GREENFIELD.

I COULD BARELY DRIVE DOWN MY OWN PRIVATE ROAD TODAY.

MANY CARS WERE PARKED ALONG OUR PRIVATE DRIVE BLOCKING DRIVEWAYS.

MY WIFE SAID SEVERAL CARS SPED INTO OUR DRIVEWAY TODAY, RIGHT WHERE KIDS PLAY.

LUCKILY WE HAVE A HUGE GATE, WILL NOW OPEN AND CLOSE FOR 24 HOURS A DAY UNTIL THAT PLACE SHUTS DOWN OR MOVE SOMEWHERE ELSE.

ALSO TODAY THERE'S AN ACTIVE MARIJUANA DISPENSARY AT 1107 GREENFIELD DRIVE AND THERE'S, THERE'S ONE AT 1256 FIRST STREET, BUT IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE IT'S ON GREENFIELD DRIVE.

THEY'VE GOT AN ADDRESS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE PROPERTY AND UM, THEY HAVE ACCESS TO BOTH GREENFIELD AND FIRST 1181 IS ALSO A NEWER MARIJUANA DISPENSARY.

1181 GREENFIELD DRIVE.

I NOTICED TODAY THAT 1179 IS A NEW HOUSE.

UM, IT'S FOR RENT RIGHT NOW, SO PROBABLY BE THE NEXT MARIJUANA DISPENSARY.

AND THEN, ALTHOUGH STREET'S A BIG PROBLEM BECAUSE IT CROSSES THERE WITH GREENFIELD AT THE 1300 AND 1200 BLOCK, UM, 1321 OIL IS A MARIJUANA DISPENSARY.

IT'S ONE HOUSE IN FROM

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GREENFIELD DRIVE, BUT THEY GOT PARKING AT, IT'S WORKING IN THE CORNER AND 1238 OR DRIVERS AND OTHER MARIJUANA DISPENSARY.

IT'S CLOSE TO GREENFIELD DRIVE AND THERE'S ONE HOUSE THERE WITH UNMARKED ON THE CORNER.

IT'S CURRENTLY CLOSED DOWN, BUT IT OPENS BACK UP A LOT.

MOST OF THESE ADDRESSES I MENTIONED ARE IN THE COUNTY, BUT I FELT THAT YOU NEEDED TO KNOW IF THESE PROBLEMS EXISTED TO THE COUNTY.

CITY LINES ALLOW.

I ALSO BE TRYING TO MEET WITH DIANE JACOBS AND THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT TO SEE HOW THEY CAN, YOU KNOW, HELP WITH THIS TROUBLING ISSUE ALONG GREENFIELD DRIVE THAT I PROMISED MY WIFI DO SOMETHING TODAY.

I APPRECIATE IT.

FIRST OFF, THANK YOU FOR COMING TO TALK TO US ABOUT THIS.

I HAVE A COPY FOR YOU GUYS IF YOU WANT.

I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT, MY NOTES.

BUT, UM, EVERY, EVERY PERSON UP HERE TONIGHT AGREES WITH YOU WHOLEHEARTEDLY.

UH, WE WERE VERY DISAPPOINTED WHEN THE COUNTY, UH, DECIDED TO ALLOW MARIJUANA.

DISPENSARY'S WE SENT THEM A LETTER AT THE, AFTER WE SENT A LEATHER, THEY THEN PUT A MORATORIUM ON, ON HAVING MORE OF THEM.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THESE ARE LEGAL DISPENSARIES IN THE COUNTY OR IF THEY'RE ILLEGAL SPENCER'S IN THE COUNTY OR IF THEY'RE ILLEGAL DISPENSARY IN OUR CITY.

IT'S PROBABLY A SMATTERING OF ALL THREE.

SO, MR MAYOR, NONE OF THEM ARE IN OUR CITY LIMITS.

WE CURRENT, WE CURRENTLY HAVE NO DISPENSARIES THAT WE KNOW OF IN OUR CITY LIMITS.

SO THESE ARE ALL IN UNINCORPORATED COUNTY AREA.

UM, IT'S OUR, OUR, UM, ASSUMPTION THAT NONE OF THESE ARE LEGAL BECAUSE THERE'S A PERMITTING PROCESS.

IT'S PRETTY EXTENSIVE.

SO, UM, WE ARE AWARE OF THEM.

UH, I KNOW OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT, SO ANY PRESSURE FROM OUR RESIDENTS TO ELECTED OFFICIALS IN THE COUNTY WOULD BE, UH, UM, GREATLY APPRECIATED.

WHAT SIR, I, I'M PERFECTLY WILLING TO WRITE A LETTER ON YOUR BEHALF, UH, PLEADING YOUR CASE TO, TO, UH, DIANE JACOB, I, I'M SURE THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT AS WELL.

I WON'T GO AHEAD AND, UM, LET YOU COORDINATE WITH OUR STAFF AND WE'LL GET THOSE LETTERS TO YOU AND UH, YOU KNOW, GOD SPEED.

I, I, IT'S, UM, PROBABLY THE MOST EFFECTIVE THING THAT CAN HAPPEN IS FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU TO GO VISIT WITH COUNTY OFFICIALS AND, AND TELL THEM HOW YOU FEEL CAUSE THAT THAT REALLY DOES GET PEOPLE'S ATTENTION.

HELLO.

WELL, TODAY WAS THE FIRST DAY AND I KNEW YOU GUYS HAD A MEETING TONIGHT SO THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE THE FIRST PEOPLE I'M TALKING TO.

YEAH, OF COURSE.

I'M PLANNING TO TALK TO THE SHERIFF AS WELL AS DIANE.

JACOB, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND SENDING US AN EMAIL OR COMING BACK TO A MEETING SOMETIME AND LETTING US KNOW HOW THIS IS RESOLVING, WE'D UH, APPRECIATE IT.

UH, I KNOW OUR STAFF WILL DO EVERYTHING WITHIN OUR POWER TO HELP, WELL, MAYBE SINCE YOU GUYS HAVE SUCH, HAD SUCH GOOD SUCCESS IN OKLAHOMA AND THE CITY LIMITS ANYWAY, MAYBE YOU GUYS CAN ASK THE COUNTY A LITTLE BIT WITH SOME IDEAS OR SOME BRAINSTORMING.

YOU KNOW, IT JUST TAKES A LOT OF, UH, TIME, EFFORT AND MONEY BECAUSE WE'RE IN COURT CONSTANTLY SHUTTING THESE THINGS DOWN AND IT'S, SO, IT'S, IT'S A PRETTY BAD PROBLEM.

SO HOPEFULLY THE COUNTY WILL TAKE IT SERIOUSLY AND, AND DO AS MUCH AS THEY CAN.

ALL RIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, BOB.

MAYBE YOU KNOW WHAT I FOUND SUCCESSFUL IN SOME CASES, UH, WHEN YOU CALL DIANE JACOB'S OFFICE, UH, TELL THEM, UM, MAYOR BILL WELLS IS WAITING TO HEAR BACK FROM YOU HOW, HOW THEY'RE HANDLING THIS AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT.

AND, UH, SOMETIMES THAT GETS THEIR ATTENTION WHEN YOU THROW A NAME AROUND OR THROW MY NAME, WHICH I KNOW HER REAL WELL KNOWN HER SINCE BEFORE SHE GOT ELECTED.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE TIP.

YOU BET.

QUICKLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU'RE NOT ALONE WITH RESIDENTS.

I SPEAK WITH THE OWNER OF THE GRINDER SANDWICH SHOP RIGHT THERE AND WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS CONVERSATIONS ABOUT HOW MUCH OF A NUISANCE IT IS TO HER BUSINESS AND A DISRUPTS AND UM, SO YOU'RE NOT ALONE.

I WOULD TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS AS WELL TO SEE UPSET TONIGHT.

YEAH.

THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT MIGHT BE A LARGER VOICE.

YEAH.

THERE'S ANOTHER THING YOU CAN DO TOO.

THEY HAD A PROGRAM A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, UH, CALLED SAFE STREETS NOW.

AND BASICALLY WHAT THE PROGRAM WAS, IS IT WAS FOR APARTMENTS THAT WERE CAUSING TROUBLE.

WELL, WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY, UM, UH, DOCUMENTED WHAT THEY DID AND THEN THEY WENT TO SMALL CLAIMS COURT.

THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALL OF THEM SUED THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY FOR, I THINK YOU CAN ASSUME FOR $7,500, EACH PERSON CAN SUE FOR $7,500.

BECAUSE OF THE NUISANCE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT SMALL, IT'S SMALL CLAIMS. YOU CAN SUE THEM ALL AND EACH ONE OF THESE PROPERTY OWNERS YOU CAN FILE A DIFFERENT LAWSUIT, UH, IN SMALL CLAIMS COURT AND IT'S VERY EASY TO DO.

AND UM, WHEN THE COURT DATE COMES, YOU ALL HAVE TO GO DOWN TO THE COURT AND UH, IF THE OTHER PEOPLE DON'T SHOW UP, THEN THE PROPERTY OWNER LOSES AND YOU GET AN A JUDGMENT AGAINST THAT PROPERTY.

AND I THINK

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THAT WOULD HELP IN THIS SITUATION AROUND FROM WHAT I'M GATHERING.

YEAH.

WHAT'S THAT? THESE GUYS THAT ARE, HAVE THESE PLACES, THEY MOVE QUICKLY FROM ONE TO ANOTHER AND THEY SHUT DOWN THOUGH.

BACK UP.

THINGS LIKE .

WELL, I WOULD, I WOULD LOOK UP WHO THE PROPERTY OWNER IS AND FILE A LAWSUIT AND MAYBE GET THEM OUT OF THERE AND I'D FILE ONE AGAINST EVERY ONE OF THE ADDRESSES THAT YOU NAMED.

HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THEM OUT OF THERE WANTING TO BUY MY HOUSE AND BUY THE PROPERTY.

YES.

WELL DO THEM ALL GET RID OF THEM.

WE DON'T WANT THEM, SIR.

I WANT MORE PRESSURE.

I WOULD SUGGEST WHAT YOU COULD DO IS TALK TO ALL YOUR NEIGHBORS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND GET THEM TO WRITE LETTERS AND CALL DIANE JACOB'S OFFICE, RIGHT? YEAH.

THEY WANT TO GO TONIGHT.

WE HAVE SEVERAL OF THEM THAT WANT TO GET A PETITION STARTED.

YEAH.

LETTERS WORK ACTUALLY BETTER.

AN ACTUAL LETTER.

WELL, IF EVERYBODY FILES A SMALL CLAIMS LAWSUIT AGAINST EVERY ONE OF THEM, I THINK YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THEM WRAPPING UP THEIR BUSINESS PRETTY FAST AND THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD STOP THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS FROM RENTING TO THOSE TYPE OF PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING TO ATTACH THEIR PROPERTY, NOT THE BUSINESS, BUT THE PROPERTY.

GOOD IDEA.

YEAH.

SO IT WORKED BEFORE.

I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN.

LUXOR, THANK YOU FOR COMING.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

PUBLIC COMMENT.

DID YOU WANT TO YEAH, GO AHEAD.

HEY, I SEE WE HAVE SOME STUDENTS HERE TONIGHT AND UH, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK ALL OF THE STUDENTS TO COME DOWN TO THE MICROPHONE HERE.

GIVE US YOUR NAME, WHAT SCHOOL YOU'RE FROM, WHAT YOU ARE WANTING TO, WHAT YOU'RE STUDYING AND WHAT, UH, WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WHEN YOU GET FINISHED WITH, UM, YOU'RE PROBABLY IN HIGH SCHOOL, I WOULD IMAGINE.

NO EXCEPTIONS.

AND UM, YOUR TEACHER WILL BE NOTIFIED AS TO WHO DOESN'T COME OR WHO COMES.

SO, UH, EVERYBODY COME DOWN AND UH, CAUSE IT'S ON TELEVISION.

SO C'MON DOWN TO THE MICROPHONE HERE, JUST AS THE LAST SPEAKER DID AND, AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND TELL US WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WHEN YOU GET OUT OF YOUR HIGH SCHOOL DEGREE.

ARE THERE ANY MORE STUDENTS OTHER THAN THESE OR, YEAH, ONE MORE.

THERE MUST BE SOME MORE BACK THERE.

YOU CAN, UH, YOU CAN TELL WHO'S THE STUDENTS IN, UH, WE'LL HAVE THEM COME DOWN AND THIS IS BEING TELEVISED.

SO YOU'LL BE ON TELEVISION TOMORROW NIGHT ON CHANNEL 24 AT 7:00 PM.

OKAY.

HELLO? YOU PULL THE MICROPHONE DOWN SO WE CAN HEAR YOU.

THANK YOU.

HELLO, MY NAME IS .

I AM IN A HIGH SCHOOL.

MY TEACHERS, MR. HERNANDEZ, HE DOES ECONOMICS AND GOVERNMENT.

WHAT I WANT TO BE IS A PHOTOGRAPHER.

I LIKE TO TRAVEL AROUND THE WORLD, TAKE EH, EH, PICTURES OF WONDERFUL THINGS THERE.

STAY OUT OF CHINA FOR A WHILE.

MY NAME IS SOMA ROLAND.

I CURRENTLY GO TO A HIGH SCHOOL.

RIGHT NOW I'M LEARNING, UH, GOVERNMENT AND OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL I PLAN TO BE A LIFEGUARD FOR A FEW YEARS AND THEN TRY THE COAST GUARD.

VERY GOOD.

YEAH, THEY JUST PICKED UP, UH, UH, 38,000 POUNDS OF, OR 3,800 POUNDS OF COCAINE OFF OF, UH, RIGHT OUT SIDE.

OUR ORDERS HERE.

UH, MOHAMED, UM, FROM A COMBAT HIGH SCHOOL WHEN I GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL, I WANT TO STUDY COMPUTER SCIENCE.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

I UM, I'M JAYLA BRUNO.

I'M FROM GROSSMONT HIGH SCHOOL.

I GUESS I'M, I'M STUDYING ALL SUBJECTS, BUT I'M HERE FOR MY GOVERNMENT CLASS.

UM, MY TEACHERS, MR. SMITH, I HOPE TO CONTINUE MY EDUCATION AT A FOUR YEAR UNIVERSITY AND STUDY PSYCHOLOGY AND THEN HOPEFULLY GET MY MASTERS IN ENVIRONMENTAL PSYCHOLOGY.

AND DO SOMETHING LIKE CITY PLANNING OR SOMETHING DOWN THAT ROAD.

VERY GOOD.

WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR MORE PLANNERS.

HI, MY NAME IS ABBY.

I, OH, OKAY.

HI, MY NAME IS ABBY MCCOY.

I CURRENTLY GO TO GROSSMONT AND I STUDY ALL SUBJECTS TOO.

I'M NOT HERE FOR A PARTICULAR ONE.

UM, I WANT TO GO TO A FOUR YEAR COLLEGE AND THEN GO TO ANOTHER EIGHT OR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS TO GET MY MASTERS IN STUDY AND BECOME AN ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER OR SOMETHING WITHIN.

AND DO YOU KNOW THAT I WENT TO GROSSMONT HIGH SCHOOL AND GRADUATED IN 1956 SO YOU CAN FIGURE OUT HOW MANY YEARS AGO THAT IS.

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63 YEARS AGO.

YOU STUNNED HER? YEAH, I AM EMMA MCCOY AND I GO TO CASTLEMONT HIGH SCHOOL AS WELL AND HER PHONE DOWN A LITTLE CLOSER.

OKAY.

YEAH, THAT'LL COME DOWN.

AND THEN I STUDY ALL SUBJECTS AS WELL.

AND THEN WANTING TO GO TO A FOUR YEAR COLLEGE TOO.

VERY GOOD.

AND YOU GO TO GROSSMONT? YEAH.

YEAH.

JUST REMEMBER THAT 63 YEARS AGO AT MY ALMA MATER.

HI, MY NAME IS AND I GO TO FLETCHER HILLS AND OBVIOUSLY I'M STILL IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, BUT WHEN I GROW UP I WANT TO BE A LABOR AND DELIVERY NURSE.

VERY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU ALL FOR PARTICIPATING AND THAT'S A JUST A LESSON AND I'M SELF ESTEEM.

WHEN I WAS YOUR AGE, I WOULD HAVE BEEN SCARED TO DEATH TO DO THAT AND IT, BUT I CONGRATULATE YOU ALL.

THAT'S YOUR FIRST PUBLIC SPEAKING IS I'M SCARED OF ALL THE GREAT, YEAH, YOU DID.

WONDERFUL.

REALLY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, NICELY DONE.

ALL RIGHT.

DO WE HAVE ANY MORE SPEAKERS? NO SIR.

WE HAVE NO MORE CARDS.

OKAY THEN THAT BRINGS

[100. Interviews for City Commissions and Committees RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council conducts interviews for three (3) seats on the Personnel Commission; one (1) seat on the Planning Commission; and one (1) seat on the Mission Trails Regional Park Citizens' Advisory Committee.]

US TO THE EVENTS OF THE NIGHT.

I DIDN'T WANT A HUNDRED.

IT WAS FOR INTERVIEWS FOR THE RESTORATIVE, THE PERSONNEL COMMISSION OR THE PERSONAL AND PLANNING COMMISSION VACANCIES AND A VACANCY ON THE MISSION TRAILS, REGIONAL PARK CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE STAFF.

WOULD YOU TELL US ABOUT THIS PLEASE? CERTAINLY MR MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU ROUTINELY DO, UM, TIE.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE STAFF REPORT, THERE ARE CURRENTLY THREE VACANCIES ON THE PERSONNEL COMMISSION.

AND AS YOU RECALL, UM, THERE ARE CERTAIN DESIGNATED POSITIONS ON THE PERSONAL COMMISSION THAT, THAT YOU HAVE TO SELECT FROM.

FOR EXAMPLE, UM, ONE POOL IS FROM INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE RECOMMENDED BY OUR LABOR ASSOCIATIONS AND ONE IS, ONE IS FROM SOMEONE THAT'S RECOMMENDED FROM THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PERSONAL COMMISSION.

AND THEN ONE IS FROM AT-LARGE.

UM, WE ONLY HAD ONE INDIVIDUAL, UH, WANT TO REAPPLY TO BE ON THE PERSONAL COMMISSION.

MR GOONE, DEZ, MR GUNAS, UM, NOTIFIED THE CITY RECENTLY THIS AFTERNOON THAT HE, DUE TO SOME PERSONAL CONFLICTS COULD NOT MAKE IT.

HE WANTED TO BE HERE BUT CAN NOT MAKE IT HERE TONIGHT.

STILL EXPRESS INTEREST TO SERVE ON THE PERSONAL COMMISSION.

HE'S BEEN ON IT FOR ONE THE LAST, UM, FOUR YEARS AND WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE TO BE ON IT.

UM, SO THERE'S TWO THINGS THE COUNCIL CAN DO.

ONE IS, UH, MAKE THE APPOINTMENT TONIGHT BASED ON HIS, HIS APPLICATION OR YOU RESCHEDULE HIM TO COME IN AND MEET WITH YOU.

SO THOSE ARE SORT OF TWO OPTIONS.

WHILE YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT, I KIND OF WANTED TO PITCH SOMETHING ELSE RELATED TO THE PERSONAL COMMISSION.

IF WE CAN BRING UP THE SLIDE.

UM, WE STAFF IS CONCERNED THAT THE PERSONAL COMMISSION'S EFFECTIVENESS, UM, IS PRETTY LIMITED IN THAT THERE'S REALLY NO NEED FOR THEM TO MEET LATELY.

SO, UM, I ASKED OUR HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR MS THORN TO PULL UP FOR THE LAST 12 YEARS, THE NUMBER OF MEETINGS THAT PERSONAL COMMISSION HAS HAD EACH YEAR.

SO YOU CAN SEE THE LAST TWO YEARS WE'VE HAD NO MEETINGS.

2018, WE ACTUALLY HAD THREE.

UM, IF YOU WERE TO DO A 13 OR 12 YEAR AVERAGE, WE'RE AVERAGING ABOUT ONE MEETING A YEAR.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE BEST USE OF CITY TIME.

SO WHAT I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND AFTER YOU MAKE A DECISION ON HOW YOU WANT TO, UM, TREAT MR ABUNDEZ BUT IS TO DIRECT STAFF TO COME BACK WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS OF, UM, WHETHER OR NOT TO ELIMINATE THE PERSONNEL COMMISSION.

THERE ARE, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN IF YOU WERE TO DO THAT.

YOU JUST COULDN'T MAKE THAT DECISION.

TONIGHT.

FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S MUNICIPAL CODE CHANGES.

THERE'S MEET AND CONFER ISSUES WITH OUR LABOR GROUPS.

SO, UM, WE'D LIKE TO DO SOME HOMEWORK AND BRING BACK A RECOMMENDATION TO THE THE CITY COUNCIL IF THAT WAS YOUR DIRECTION.

UM, ONCE YOU MAKE A DETERMINATION ON PERSONAL COMMISSION, WE'D RECOMMEND YOU INTERVIEW THE THREE CANDIDATES FOR THE, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN THE ONE CANDIDATE AND MAKE A DECISION AND THEN THE ONE CANDIDATE FOR THE, UH, MISSION TRAILS COMMISSION COMMITTEE.

SO WITH THAT, MR MAYOR, UH, YOUR DIRECTION, I FIRST SAY I'LL DO THE ASK JACKIE IF WE HAVE ANY CARDS ON THE SIDE OF .

YES SIR.

WE HAVE ONE CAR FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

UM, WELL LET'S, LET'S DEAL WITH THE PERSONAL COMMISSION FIRST.

UM, THEN I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE WILL GO AHEAD AND, UH, REAPPOINT MR GOONE DEZ, I BASED UPON HIS PRIOR SERVICE.

AND THEN, UM, LET'S GO, LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THAT IF THERE'S A SECOND.

SECOND,

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UH, MOVING SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

SORRY.

WITH YOUR PERMISSION AND IF I MAY RESET THE VOTE, PLEASE, PLEASE VOTE.

I'M SORRY SIR.

WITH YOUR PERMISSION, IF MY MOVIE SET THE VOTE.

OKAY, PLEASE VOTE.

OKAY.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN THE, UH, SECOND MOTION THAT I WOULD MAKE WOULD BE WE TAKE, UH, OUR CITY MANAGER'S SUGGESTION AND ASK THEM TO COME BACK WITH SOME, UH, IDEAS ON HOW TO PROCEED BEFORE YOU DO THAT, SINCE THIS WAS NOT ON THE AGENDA AS SUCH, I THINK WHAT MR. MITCHELL REALLY IS LOOKING FOR IS, UH, WHETHER THERE ARE ANY OBJECTIONS FOR HIM TO BRING BACK SOME, ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS? NOPE.

NOPE.

THANK YOU.

SO MOVE ON THEN.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT THEN LET'S MOVE ON TO THE, UM, LET'S DO, UH, MR TRAILS REGIONAL PARK NEXT.

ARE THERE ANY CARDS ON? NO, SIR.

WE HAVE NO CARDS.

ALL RIGHT THEN, UM, LET'S SEE HERE.

I'M TAKING THIS OUT OF ORDER AREN'T, I APOLOGIZE.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE HAVE ONE COMMISSIONER WHO'S A NEEDS TO BE APPOINTED AND IS A DIMITRIOS SPAR.

DONNA SPIRIT'S INA SUPPRESS, YOU KNOW, PARDON ME.

HEY MR .

HOW ARE YOU? GOOD EVENING.

I'M DOING WELL.

GREAT.

LISTEN, YOU'VE GOT THREE MINUTES.

GO AHEAD AND TELL US WHY YOU'D LIKE TO BE ON THIS COMMISSION.

AND THEN AFTER THAT WE WILL ASK A FEW QUESTIONS.

OKAY, GREAT.

UM, WELL FIRST, THANK YOU FOR INVITING ME TO COME IN AND GIVE SOME, UH, BACKGROUND ABOUT MYSELF AND WHY I'M INTERESTED IN THIS POSITION.

UM, ABOUT ME.

I AM IN MY 12TH YEAR AS A PRACTICING ATTORNEY, UH, HERE IN SAN DIEGO.

UH, PREDOMINANTLY THOSE CASES HAVE, HAVE CONCERNED, UH, PROPERTY DAMAGE IN THE CONTEXT OF UTILITY COMPANIES CAUSING FIRES.

SO AS OF RECENT, WE'VE BEEN QUITE BUSY, UM, THROUGHOUT THE STATE.

UM, ONE CASE WAS, UH, PERTINENT I BELIEVE, TO THIS POSITION.

UH, AND THAT WAS, WE CO REPRESENTED A, UH, HABITAT CONSERVANCY IN, UH, NORTHERN LA COUNTY AGAINST LA DWP.

AND IN WORKING WITH THE CONSERVANCY, I WAS ABLE TO, UM, UNDERSTAND AND BETTER, UH, SEE HOW SUCH A NATURE CONSERVANCY'S ORGANIZATION WORKS.

THE CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE, WORKS WITH HOW IT BUILDS CONSENSUS AND ADVANCES ITS MISSION OF, UM, PRESERVING THE LAND.

UM, I'M A BORN AND RAISED SAN DIEGO.

I'M, UH, MOST OF THOSE YEARS HAVE BEEN IN EAST COUNTY.

UH, CURRENTLY MY WIFE AND I AND OUR TWO DAUGHTERS LIVE IN FLETCHER HILLS.

UM, SO WHY DO I WANT THIS SEAT? WELL, UM, I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THIS WAS A, A PAID POSITION.

SO THAT'S JUST A JOKE.

UM, I, I THE, THE, UH, THE, THE, THE LAND AND THE WATERWAYS ARE, UH, VERY IMPORTANT TO ME AND, UM, UH, CRITICAL WATER SOURCES, YOU KNOW, RUNS THROUGH MISSION TRAILS AND, UM, DESPITE, YOU KNOW, MUCH DEVELOPMENT FROM TIERRA SANTA TO GRANDVILLE TO, UH, DEL CERRO, YOU KNOW, THE TRAILS HAVE REMAINED, UH, AT ONE POINT I LIVED ACROSS FROM THE TRAILS.

UM, AND I BELIEVE THAT OUR CONNECTION WITH WHAT'S REMAINING OF NATURE IS VERY IMPORTANT AND, UM, TO THE EXTENT THAT I CAN ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA, WHICH I'M A RESIDENT OF, UM, IN THE CONTEXT OF PRESERVING THIS, UM, THIS LOCAL TREASURE OF OURS, IT'D BE MY PLEASURE TO DO SO.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THE TRAILS ARE IMPORTANT, UH, BUT EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT IS, UH, THE FLORA AND THE FAUNA WITHIN THE TRAILS AND OUR SORT OF, UM, COEXISTENCE WITH NATURE.

ADDITIONALLY, THERE IS MUCH HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE WITH THE TRAILS, UM, BEING THE WATERWAY THAT IT IS, UM, INCLUDING, UM, YOU KNOW, CULTURAL SITES WITH THE QVA INDIANS.

UM, LASTLY, I HAVE MY OWN, UH, PERSONAL CONNECTION.

I'VE UTILIZED THE TRAILS SINCE I WAS A TEENAGER.

UH, MY WIFE HAS AN ACUPUNCTURE BUSINESS, UH, LITERALLY IN GOLF CREST ACROSS FROM CAL'S MOUNTAIN.

UM,

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AND UM, LASTLY, UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT MY TWO DAUGHTERS SEE ME VOLUNTEER AND SEE ME, UH, DO MY CIVIC DUTY AND GIVE BACK TO THEM COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH SIR.

LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

HEY BUDDY.

SORRY.

IT DOESN'T PAY POSITION.

UM, WELL YOUR RESUME IS EXTREMELY, UH, IMPRESSIVE.

THANK YOU.

I THINK THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, BASED UPON WHERE YOU LIVE AND WHERE YOUR WIFE'S BUSINESS IS AND, UH, I CAN'T IMAGINE, UH, ASK YOU FOR A BETTER CANDIDATE.

I'D UH, LOVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPOINT MS GENTLEMEN.

ONE SECOND IS PLEASE VOTE.

HEY, YOU MADE IT WELL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, SO LET ME RE SAY A COUPLE OF THINGS.

FIRST OFF, THIS IS A, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS FOR A TERM THROUGH IT THAT WILL EXPIRE JANUARY 31ST AND 2022 AND .

GRAHAM, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO DO, DO THE OATH OF OFFICE? SO BECAUSE THIS IS NOT OUR COMMITTEE, UM, HE UH, HE'LL BE ACTUALLY REPRESENTING OUR COMMUNITY ON THIS COMMITTEE.

UH, WE WON'T ISSUE THE OFFICE FOR THIS.

WELL I'M SURE THEY'LL SWEAR YOU IN AT THE NEXT MEETING.

UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR REPRESENTING US.

PLEASE FEEL FREE TO KEEP US INFORMED IF YOU THINK THERE'S ANYTHING HAPPENING THAT WE NEEDED TO KNOW ABOUT AND, AND UH, AGAIN, WE UH, APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE.

ABSOLUTELY.

THANK YOU AND HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

NOW JACKIE, DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION? YES SIR.

WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER, PAUL CIRCLE.

WELL, ANY COMMISSIONER CIRCLE, HOW ARE YOU? I'M DOING WELL.

IT'S ODD TO BE ON THIS SIDE OF THE PODIUM, BUT GLAD TO BE HERE.

I JUST WANTED TO COME BEFORE YOU GUYS AND LET YOU KNOW THAT VERONICA LONGORIA HAS BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB.

WE DON'T ALWAYS SEE EYE TO EYE.

WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE ON EVERYTHING, BUT SHE HAS GROWN SO MUCH IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS AND I REALLY APPRECIATE HAVING HER VOICE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND IF YOU GUYS SEE WITH FIT HIGH, I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU REAPPOINT HER FOR ANOTHER FOUR YEARS.

OKAY, THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR PAUL? NO, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR UH, FOR SERVING ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

I KNOW YOU'RE GETTING THAT LARGE PAYCHECK.

THANK YOU FRO.

I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF WORK BEING ON THE I W I WAS ON A PLANNING COMMISSIONER FOR FOUR YEARS.

I THINK ALL OF US.

PHIL, YOU WERE, OH, FOR ABOUT FIVE MINUTES YOU WERE THERE.

BUT IT'S A LOT OF WORK AND IT'S A LOT OF, A LOT OF FUN ACTUALLY.

OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO START SEEING APPLICANTS AGAIN.

WE'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO TELL US WHY YOU'D LIKE TO BE A PLANNING COMMISSIONER AND THEN WE'LL ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS AND GO FROM THERE.

IS A MISTER ASKED US HERE TONIGHT, IS HE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME? MR .

OKAY, THIS IS MARK ASTERIS.

HOW ARE YOU SIR? VERY GOOD.

THANKS.

THE FLOOR IS YOURS.

THANK YOU.

ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, WE BOUGHT A HOUSE HERE IN OKLAHOMA AT 1198 GROUSE.

WE BOUGHT IT THERE SO THAT WE COULD BE WITHIN A FIVE MINUTE DRIVE OR HAVE OUR TWO GRANDDAUGHTERS.

WE MOVED DOWN FROM THE EAST BAY AND BEFORE THAT WE'D LIVED IN COLORADO.

I HAVE MY LAW DEGREE IN LIBRARY SCIENCE DEGREE FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF DENVER.

I NEVER PRACTICED LAW.

I DIDN'T WANT TO PRACTICE LAW.

I'D BEEN A PROBLEM SOLVER HELPING OTHER PEOPLE FIND THE ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS.

I WANT TO BE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE I LIKE EL CAHONE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO LEAVE.

OUR GRANDDAUGHTERS AREN'T GOING TO LEAVE.

I WANT TO HELP CONTINUE TO MAKE IT A BETTER PLACE FOR EVERYONE TO LIVE.

IT'S IMPORTANT FOR CITIZENS TO BE INVOLVED WITH GOVERNMENT.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS ONE WAY FOR THE PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE AND ASK STAFF AND HELP STAFF MAKE DECISIONS THAT ARE GOOD FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

I HAVE EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH STAFF.

I WAS THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT OF THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF LAW LIBRARIES, A 5,000 MEMBER ASSOCIATION OF LAW LIBRARIANS AND WORKED WITH STAFF.

OUT OF OUR CHICAGO OFFICE ORGANIZING AND PLANNING LARGE EVENTS.

I SERVED ON THE BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE IN SAN LEANDRO WHERE WE WORK TO DEVISE AND IMPROVE BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.

AGAIN, A VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC HERE IN OKLAHOMA.

I BRING RULE UNDERSTANDING AS A LAW LYBRAND.

I LIKE RULES FAR MORE THAN I REALIZED I DID UNTIL JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

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BUT I'M CREATIVE ABOUT FINDING SOLUTIONS TO PROBLEMS, LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE CAN SOLVE THE ISSUES FACING US AND EL CAHONE IS DOING A GOOD JOB ADDRESSING MANY THINGS AND IT'S NOT GOING TO GET EASIER.

WE ALL KNOW THAT AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH YOU AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION IN MAKING A BETTER PLACE FOR ALL OF US.

I'VE GOT A MINUTE LEFT, BUT THAT'S ENOUGH FOR ME.

WELL THANKS VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE YOU COMING AND TALKING TO.

LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

GO AHEAD PHIL.

SO GENERALLY MARK OVER HERE.

YEAH, SO GENERALLY SPEAKING WITH REGARD TO GROWTH AND BUILDING IN THE CITY, HOW MUCH GROWTH IS TOO MUCH GROWTH? HOW WOULD YOU TACKLE THAT? THAT'S A LOCATION BY LOCATION REALLY AS A BICYCLE, I WANT GROWTH IN PARTICULAR WAYS WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR ME TO GET AROUND ON MY BICYCLE.

AS A PEDESTRIAN, I WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SIDEWALKS TO GET TO THOSE PLACES.

AND THERE ARE MANY ROADS IN OKLAHOMA THAT DON'T HAVE SIDEWALKS.

SO HOW MUCH GROWTH IS TOO MUCH? HOW MUCH CAN THE INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND THE AREA SUPPORT? IF WE ADD TOO MANY CARS, RIVE DRIVING ON IT, THEN IT BREAKS DOWN THE ROAD.

UH, I LIVE NEAR FLYING HILLS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL BETWEEN EIGHT 30 AND NINE O'CLOCK AND TWO O'CLOCK AND THREE O'CLOCK THERE ARE TOO MANY PEOPLE THERE BECAUSE PARENTS ARE DROPPING THEIR CHILDREN OFF AT SCHOOL, WALKING FROM IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE AND THE END UP ON FINCH TO GET TO THE HOUSE.

SO IN THAT INSTANCE, SO SOME PART OF THE DAY GROWTH HAS BEEN TOO MUCH, BUT WE NEVER KNEW THAT 10 YEARS AGO.

LOOKING AHEAD, WE KNOW THAT PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE CLOSER TO TRANSPORTATION.

WE KNOW THAT WE NEED TO DO MORE TO REDUCE THE RELIANCE UPON AUTOMOBILES AND LOOK FOR DIFFERENT WAYS OF GETTING PEOPLE AROUND.

HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH.

IT'S GOLDILOCKS.

THERE IS JUST THE RIGHT AMOUNT AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WILL SEE JUST THE RIGHT AMOUNT UNTIL WE HAVE LOOKED AT PERHAPS BOTH EXTREMES AS POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS TO THE PROBLEM, TO THE OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT IS.

IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO SOLVE THE HOUSING NEEDS THAT WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY IN ALL OF CALIFORNIA AND THE COUNTRY FOR THAT MATTER.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

THANKS FOR THE QUESTION.

OKAY.

THE STRESS IS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING AGAIN.

YOU ARE EMINENTLY QUALIFIED AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TO COME AND TALK TO US TONIGHT.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

OUR NEXT APPLICANT IS VERONICA LONGORIA AND .

MS LA GLORIA IS ALREADY A PLANNING COMMISSIONER.

UM, GOOD EVENING MR MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

IT IS WEIRD BEING ON THIS SIDE.

HE USUALLY WE'RE UP THERE, UM, AS PAUL SERCO SAID, IT HAS BEEN MY HONOR FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS TO SERVE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE TO SERVE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, WORKING SIDE BY SIDE WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.

I THINK WE'RE MOVING THE CITY IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

IN YOUR VISION, THE CITY'S VISION AND OUR CITIZENS VISION.

LIKE PAUL SAID, WE DON'T NORMALLY, NOT NORMALLY, BUT WE DON'T ALWAYS SEE EYE TO EYE.

HOWEVER, WE ARE VERY, WE ALL HAVE OUR STRENGTHS AND WE BRING THEM TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND I BELIEVE CURRENTLY WE HAVE A GREAT PLANNING COMMISSION AS WE HAVE IT TODAY.

UM, SO I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE AS A FORMER PLANNER, CITY PLANNER AND ALSO AS A ENVIRONMENTAL AUDIT COMPLAINTS AUDITOR.

CURRENTLY I BRING THAT SIDE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO I'D LIKE I BRING, HOW CAN I PUT THIS, I PUT THE LITTLE TOUCHES THAT THE FEMININE TOUCHES TO SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT NOT MANY OF THE OTHERS SEES.

SO IT'S NICE TO HAVE THAT LITTLE TOUCH IN CERTAIN PROJECTS.

UM, I WOULD ALSO LOVE TO CONTINUE TO BE A ROLE MODEL TO MY DAUGHTERS, TO OTHER, UM, YOUNG WOMEN WHO WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW IN THE FOOTSTEPS OF PLANNING, UM, PLANNING COMMISSION AND GETTING INVOLVED WITH THEIR CITY.

SO WITH THAT SAID, IT WOULD BE AN HONOR TO BE REAPPOINTED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND TO CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD IN THE CITY THAT WE HAVE TODAY.

GREAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY QUESTIONS? CALL US THE SAME QUESTION, ALTHOUGH YOU HAVE AN ADVANTAGE BECAUSE YOU HEARD IT.

UH, GENERALLY SPEAKING, HOW MUCH GROWTH IS TOO, TOO MUCH? I HAVE TO AGREE WITH MR ESTIS.

UM, IT REALLY DEPENDS.

I THINK OKLAHOMA

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CURRENTLY WE CAN STILL HAVE SOME GROWTH AND BY THAT I MEAN GOOD GROWTH.

UM, WE ARE STILL GOING, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIX SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAD FOR MANY YEARS AGO FROM OUR PLANNING COMMISSIONERS THEN AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THEN.

UM, BUT WITH THE NEW PROJECTS THAT CITY STAFF IS BRINGING TO US AND WORKING WITH SANDAG, I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO IN THE, IN THE GOOD GROWTH DIRECTION.

UM, HOPEFULLY WE HAVE SOME WALKABILITY, SOME BICYCLE LANES THAT ARE COMING.

IT WOULD BE NICE TO GET ALL OF FLETCHER HILLS, UM, UP SO THAT WE HAVE MORE WALKABILITY UP THERE AND WE HAVE MORE RESTAURANTS.

UM, SO THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL GROWTH THAT CAN HAPPEN STILL HERE IN, IN THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.

UM, I DON'T THINK WE'VE QUITE MAXED IT OUT YET.

UM, BUT I THINK WE'RE IN, WE'RE HEADED IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AND WE'RE NOT GROWING TOO RAPIDLY.

ARE THOSE YOUR DAUGHTERS THAT CAME UP AND SPOKE? THREE OF THEM ARE.

ONE IS I'VE JUST PICKED UP, SHE'S LIKE MY ADOPTED DAUGHTER.

ONE IS ACTUALLY AT COLLEGE SO SHE IS WATCHING ONLINE AND THEN THE OTHER ONE'S AT PRACTICE.

OH, I'M CONGRATULATING YOU.

I HAVE FIVE DOWN AND BEING BRAVE.

YEAH, THEY DID.

REALLY GOOD.

THANK YOU.

GOOD QUESTION.

THANKS.

THANKS VERY MUCH.

THANKS FOR ALL THE DEDICATION YOU'VE GIVEN FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS.

THANK YOU.

IT'S A LOT OF WORK.

I KNOW, I KNOW.

IT IS.

IT'S BEEN FUN.

I APPRECIATE IT.

YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND WE'LL UM, WE WILL GO FROM HERE.

OUR LAST APPLICANTS IS REBECCA POLLOCK.

RUDE.

REBECCA, WELCOME.

GOOD EVENING.

I CAME WITH NOTHING CAUSE I ALWAYS SPEAK FROM THE CUFF CAUSE THAT'S JUST HOW I AM.

BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING US ALL COME OUT TONIGHT AND APPLY FOR THIS FABULOUS POSITION, THIS WONDERFUL HIGH PAID, FABULOUS JOB.

UM, I HAVE LIVED AT THE CITY OF ALCOHOL FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

I'VE SEEN IT GROW.

I'VE SEEN IT CHANGE.

I'VE RAISED MY KIDS HERE.

THEY'VE NOW OFF TO COLLEGE.

THEY GRADUATED FROM GROSSMONT HIGH SCHOOL.

MY SON IS NOW PLAYING FOOTBALL FROM MESA.

SO WE'LL SEE HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH LONGER I SURVIVED WITH HIM IN MY HOUSE.

I PUT MY BUTT BROKE BY THE END OF THIS YEAR.

UM, BUT THE REASON WHY I RAN FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS BECAUSE I HAVE A DEGREE IN COMMUNICATIONS.

I HAVEN'T USED IT.

I'VE BEEN, I'M A REAL ESTATE AGENT, AN ACTIVE REALTOR.

I'M GETTING MY BROKER'S LICENSE.

UM, I'VE, I DO REAL ESTATE EVERY SINGLE DAY.

I WORK WITH ZONING, I WORK WITH COMMERCIAL.

I WORK WITH A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING.

AND THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU CAN HAVE CHANGES WORK WITH WHAT YOU GOT AND YOU GOT TO TAKE WHAT'S THERE AND TRY TO MAKE IT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE.

AND I KNOW THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA HAS DONE LEAPS AND BOUNDS FROM WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE 20 YEARS AGO.

UM, THE DEALERSHIPS, THE HOTELS, A LOT OF GREAT THINGS HERE TO THIS CITY IN COMPARISON.

WHEN I STARTED HERE, EVEN THOUGH I'VE ALWAYS LOVED THE CITY.

UM, BUT I WOULD RATHER, I'M, I'M A BIG COMPONENT OF BEING PART OF THE SOLUTION, NOT PART OF THE PROBLEM.

SO I CAN SIT HERE AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THINGS OR I CAN HELP.

SO I WAS A BROWNIE, I WAS A CADET KEY CLUB, LINCOLN CLUB, WHATEVER IT IS, I'M GOING TO VOLUNTEER CAUSE THAT'S JUST HOW I'M WIRED.

SO I REALLY HOPE THAT I WILL GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP THIS FIND CITY.

UM, AND CONSIDERING PLANNING IS WHAT I LOVE TO DO.

WHY NOT JUST JUMP IN AND SEE WHERE I CAN HELP? OKAY.

FOR SURE.

LET ME SEE.

THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS.

SURE.

SAME QUESTION.

GENERALLY SPEAKING, HOW MUCH GROWTH IS TOO MUCH GROWTH? LIKE EVERYONE ELSE SAYS IT ALL.

IT ALL KIND OF DEPENDS.

YOU KNOW, IT ALL, YOU KIND OF HAVE TO FACTOR IN, YOU KNOW, HIGHEST, BEST USE AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE TRAFFIC.

THERE'S ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WANTS TO HAVE A SIDEWALK.

EVERYBODY WANTS WALKABILITY, EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE TROLLEY HERE.

SO TO BUILD THINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE CENTRALLY LOCATED.

SO PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, WANT TO LIVE CLOSE AND BE ABLE TO TRAFFIC OUT OF THE CITY AND COME BACK HOME AND PAY THEIR TAXES HERE.

THAT'S GREAT.

IT'S BASICALLY KIND OF FACTORING IN MANY THINGS.

YOU KNOW, LIKE THE CHANGE HAS HAPPENED AND THEY'VE DONE GREAT CHANGES THUS FAR AND THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB IN WORKING WITH YOU GUYS TO MAKE THE BEST USE OF ALCOHOL.

AND I'D ONLY LIKE TO SEE THAT FURTHER, YOU KNOW, CAUSE WHY LIVE, I LIVE OVER BY GROSS, BY HIGH SCHOOL.

THERE WAS REALLY NOTHING OVER THERE, YOU KNOW, BUT, BUT I'M OKAY WITH WALKING SOMEWHERE.

I CAN STILL WALK DOWN THE STREET TO A TROLLEY.

THERE'S NOT A LOT OF SIDEWALKS.

IT'S NOT REALLY HUGE ISSUE, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST TRYING TO FIGURE

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OUT WHAT, WHAT PEOPLE'S CONCERNS ARE AND WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

OKAY.

BOB, ANY QUESTIONS, CARRIE? ALL RIGHT, WE ARE DONE.

THANK YOU FOR COMING AND FOR, UH, TELLING US ABOUT YOU AND FOR APPLIER AGAIN, EVERYBODY IS SO WELL QUALIFIED.

THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR TAKING THE CONSIDERATION OF EVERYONE.

I APPRECIATE IT.

LET'S SEE.

IT'S JUST GREAT THAT SO MANY IMPRESSIVE PEOPLE WANT TO DO THIS JOB.

ALL RIGHT, NOW WE'RE AT THE HARD PART.

WE HAVE TO CHOOSE ONE PERSON, FOUR OUT OF THREE IN THE END.

ALL, ALL THREE I THOUGHT WERE EXTREMELY WELL QUALIFIED.

SO OPENNESS, DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT, I WILL JUST SAY TO OPEN IT UP, I JUST ATTENDED THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES, NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS ACADEMY AND THERE WAS A PRESENTATION BY A PLANNING COMMISSIONER 20 YEARS WHO'S ALSO A DEVELOPER AND A PROFESSIONAL PLANNER.

AND THAT QUESTION WAS ASKED HOW MUCH GROWTH IS TOO MUCH GROWTH? AND THE ANSWER THEY GAVE US WAS, IT DEPENDS.

AND THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE'S ANSWER WAS.

SO JUST BASED OFF OF THAT SINGLE QUESTION, I THINK EVERYONE'S QUALIFIED TO BE A PLANNING COMMISSIONER.

THEY HAVE THE RIGHT MINDSET.

YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SPECIFIC SPECIFICS OF EACH PLAN.

SO I'LL, I'LL START WITH THAT.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT TO THE AUDIENCE TOO, THAT THAT BEING A PLANNING COMMISSIONER IS NOT REALLY BASED UPON YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH BEING A PLANNER OR, UH, THE ABILITY TO HAVE DONE THIS KIND OF WORK.

IT'S, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN PROTECTING THE INTEGRITY OF THE, OF THE GROWTH OF THE CITY AND MAKING SURE THAT THE PROJECTS THAT COME TO US ARE GOOD QUALITY PROJECTS AND THAT REPRESENT THE KIND OF GROWTH THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE HAPPENING IN THE CITY.

THAT NOT ONLY THE CITY COUNCIL BUT THE, THE CITIZENS.

AND SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE PROTECTIVE OF THE COMMUNITY, WHICH I THINK EVERYBODY QUALIFIES FOR THAT.

I, ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? I CAN START, UH, I CAN START.

I AM PLEASED TO MAKE A MOTION OR, YEAH, WELL EVERYONE'S QUALIFIED THAT, THAT, THAT'S OBVIOUS.

UM, AND EVERYONE SEEMS LIKE THEY GO THROUGH THE RIGHT DECISION MAKING PROCESS.

I LIKED HOW REBECCA MENTIONED THE SPECIFIC, UH, PROJECTS THAT SHE SAW IN EL CAHONE WITH REGARD TO THE DEALERSHIPS, THE CONCERTED EFFORT THAT THE CITY COUNCIL MADE.

UM, UM, I APPRECIATE, UH, VERONICA, UM, HER, HER INTEREST AND CONTINUED DEDICATION AND MARK, UH, YOU ARE OVERLY QUALIFIED FOR THIS POSITION.

UM, I, I, BUT I, I LIKE HOW REBECCA HAS HISTORY IN, IN ALCOHOL AND SHE, SHE SAW AND SHE RELATED IT, UM, TO, TO THE CITY AND SHE, AND SHE'S KEENLY AWARE OF ALL THE PROJECTS GIVEN HER HISTORY, UH, 20 YEARS.

UM, YEAH.

UM, YEAH, I AGREE WITH THE COUNCILMAN ORTIZ A, I THINK, UH, REBECCA WOULD, UH, BRI BRING A GREAT VALUE TO THE CITY GIVEN HER BACKGROUND AND, UH, EVERYBODY ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION COMES FROM DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AT THE CITIZEN COMMITTEE.

SO, UH, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO POINT, UH, REBECCA POLLOCK, RUTH .

BEFORE WE GO TO A SECOND, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, I DID TALK TO ALL THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS AND EVERYBODY WAS EXTREMELY COMPLIMENTARY OF MS LONGORIA AND REALLY THEY REALLY ENJOYED WORKING WITH HER.

I THOUGHT SHE WAS A GREAT ASSET.

I WON'T, THERE'S MORE CHARLOTTE TABLE ON.

IF THERE'S A SECOND WE CAN, WE CAN VOTE BY JUST ONE OF THE POINT THAT OUT.

IS THERE A SECOND TO A, SAY IT AGAIN.

OKAY.

SO THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

SOME CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

ALL RIGHT, SO WE'VE, WE'VE MADE A DECISION.

UH, BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT APPLIED, UM, THIS IS ALWAYS THE HARDEST, THE HARDEST MEETING OF THE YEAR FOR ME CAUSE WE GET SO MANY GREAT PEOPLE THAT ARE AT APPLY AND THERE'S, BUT THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES AND CHANCES ARE RUN FOR COUNCIL AND THERE'S LOTS OF WAYS TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY.

SO IF YOU DIDN'T GET CHOSEN AT NIGHT, PLEASE COME BACK AND SERVE AGAIN OR, OR APPLY AGAIN IN SOME OTHER WAY.

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OKAY.

WELL AGAIN, WE'RE A, WE'RE GOING TO WAIT TILL THE NEXT COMMISSION TO A COMMISSION MEETING TO A SIGN.

BUT AGAIN, CORRECT.

MR MAYOR, WE'D RECOMMEND THAT UH, MS POLLOCK, RUBY, UM, SWORN IN AT THE, AT THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IN FRONT OF HER COLLEAGUES AND THAT WAY SHE CAN HAVE FAMILY HERE IF SHE WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT THEN BRINGS US TO THE GERMAN, THE ADJOURN RAILER JOINT MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE OCO.

RITA LAND REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY HELD THIS 11TH DAY OF FEBRUARY, 2020 IS THE JUROR UNTIL TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 25TH, 2020 AT 3:00 PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.