May 13, 2025 City Council Meeting 3pm

[ CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Bill Wells]

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THE MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER.

I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR CITY CLERK TO PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

THANK YOU.

WOULD YOU ALL STAND WITH ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE REMAIN STANDING? FOR A BRIEF MOMENT OF SILENCE, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

[ POSTINGS: The City Clerk posted Orders of Adjournment of the April 22, 2025, Meeting, the Joint Special Meetings of April, 22, 2025 and May 5, 2025, and the Agenda of the May 13, 2025, Meeting in accordance to State Law and City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the Redevelopment Agency Policy.]

[ PRESENTATIONS: Proclamation: National Public Works Week Presentation: America on Main Street]

THE FIRST ONE IS A PROCLAMATION FOR NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK.

WE'LL, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.

DAVID RICHARDS.

PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM AND ACCEPT THE PRO PROCLAMATION, WHICH I WILL READ.

HI, DAVID.

HEY, LET ME READ THIS PROCLAMATION FOR YOU.

OKAY.

WHEREAS PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS FOCUS ON INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITIES, AND SERVICES THAT ARE A VITAL IMPORTANCE TO SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT COMMUNITIES AND TO PUBLIC HEALTH, HIGH QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE WELLBEING OF THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY OF EL CAJON.

AND WHEREAS THESE INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITIES AND SERVICES COULD NOT BE PROVIDED WITHOUT THE DEDICATED EFFORTS OF PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE ENGINEERS, MANAGERS, AND EMPLOYEES AT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR REBUILDING AND IMPROVING AND PROTECTING OUR NATION'S TRANSPORTATION, WATER SUPPLY, WATER TREATMENT, SOLID WASTE SYSTEMS, PUBLIC BUILDINGS AND OTHER STRUCTURES AND FACILITIES ESSENTIAL FOR OUR CITIZENS.

AND WHEREAS IS THE IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST FOR THE CITIZENS, CIVIC LEADERS AND CHILDREN IN THE CITY OF EL CAJON TO GAIN KNOWLEDGE OF AND MAINTAIN AN ONGOING INTEREST AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPORTANCE OF PUBLIC WORKS AND PUBLIC WORKS PROGRAMS IN THEIR RESPECTIVE COMMUNITIES.

AND WHEREAS THE YEAR 2025 MARKS THE 65TH ANNUAL NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK, SPONSORED BY THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION.

NOW, THEREFORE, I BILL WELLS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF EL CAJON, TOGETHER WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, DO HEREBY DESIGNATE THE WEEK OF MAY 18TH THROUGH THE 24TH, 2025 AS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK, AND URGE ALL CITIZENS TO JOIN WITH REPRESENTATIVES OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION AND GOVERNMENT AGS AGENCIES AND ACTIVITIES, EVENTS, AND CEREMONIES DESIGNED TO PAY TRIBUTE TO OUR PUBLIC WORKS PROFESSIONALS, ENGINEERS, MANAGERS, AND EMPLOYEES, AND TO RECOGNIZE THE SUBSTANTIAL CONTRIBUTIONS THEY ALL MAKE TO PROTECT OUR NATIONAL HEALTH, SAFETY, AND ADVANCING QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

COOL.

I WANTED TO TAKE A QUICK TWO MINUTES TO, UM, MAKE A FEW COMMENTS.

SO TODAY I AM HERE TO HELP, UH, CELEBRATE THE INCREDIBLE EMPLOYEES WHO MAKE UP OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM.

YOU SEE 'EM OUT HERE IN THE AUDIENCE.

UM, I'D LIKE TO INVITE OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM TO COME FORWARD AS I SHARE A FEW WORDS.

SO COME ON UP.

IF YOU GUYS DON'T MIND.

THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM YOU CAN JUST WRAP AROUND.

AND THEN I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO REAL QUICKLY, UH, RECOGNIZE OUR ENGINEERING STAFF WHO ARE IN THE ROOM.

UH, WHILE WE'RE NOW SEPARATE DEPARTMENTS, THE WORK THAT THEY DO, UH, REMAINS IMPORTANT TO WHAT WE DO IS WE BUILD NEW INFRASTRUCTURE AND MAINTAIN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE.

UM, I WANNA START BY SAYING THAT OVER THE PAST YEAR, I'VE HAD THE PROUD OPPORTUNITY OF SERVING WITH THESE FOLKS.

UM, THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO YOU CAN CALL AT 2:00 PM AND YOU CAN CALL AT 2:00 AM AND THEY'RE HERE WHEN, WHEN WE NEED THEM THE MOST.

UM, THIS PAST YEAR, FOR INSTANCE, OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND.

IN FACT, PROBABLY 95% OF OUR STAFF, UM, WORKED ROUND THE CLOCK FOR A MONTH STRAIGHT, UM, TO PREVENT A SEWER DISASTER ON GRAVES, UM, OR OVER BY GRAVES AND BEACH STREET.

IN ADDITION, WHEN A FIELD TAKER SPILLED ONTO FLETCHER PARKWAY, OUR CREWS WERE QUICK TO RESPOND, UM, TO STOP AND CONTAIN THE FUEL.

AND OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT QUICKLY WENT TO WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR, OUR CITY WAS RESTORED, THAT THE CONDITION THAT OUR RESIDENTS EXPECT.

UM, NEXT WEEK MARK'S NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK.

AND THIS YEAR'S THEME IS PEOPLE PURPOSE, UM, PEOPLE PURPOSE AND

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ANNUAL CELEBRATION GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO FORMALLY RECOGNIZE THESE FOLKS FOR WHAT THEY DO DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

UH, MUCH OF WHICH HAPPENS BEHIND THE SCENES AND HAS A DAILY IMPACT ON THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR RESIDENTS.

UM, OUR TEAM ENSURES THAT TOILETS FLUSH AND SEWER SYSTEMS OPERATE SAFELY.

FIRE TRUCKS, POLICE CARS, AND OTHER FACILITIES OR OTHER VEHICLES ARE MAINTAINED AND READY TO RESPOND.

CITY FACILITIES REMAIN SAFE FOR AND FUNCTIONAL FOR BOTH EMPLOYEES AND THE PUBLIC THAT POTHOLES ARE FILLED.

STREETS ARE CLEAN TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND STREET STRIPING ARE MAINTAINED, AND SIDEWALKS ARE SAFE AND WALKABLE.

AND OUR STORM CHANNELS ARE CLEAN TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS FROM FLOODING.

PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEES ARE ALSO AMONG THE FIRST RESPONDERS DURING EMERGENCIES.

THEY CLOSED ROADS DURING INVESTIGATIONS AND TRAFFIC COLLISIONS, CLEAR FALLEN TREES AND DEBRIS RESPOND TO STORM EVENTS AND FLOOD RISKS, AND WORK AROUND THE CLOCK TO PREVENT AND MITIGATE SEWER FA FAILURES.

PLEASE JOIN ME IN, IN THANKING THE INCREDIBLE TEAM OF PROFESSIONALS FOR THEIR COMMITMENT TO KEEPING EL CAJON RUNNING SAFELY AND SMOOTHLY EVERY SINGLE DAY.

MR. MAYOR, UH, THEY, THEY WOULD NEVER TELL ME THIS, BUT I HEARD EARLIER TODAY, DAVE AND I HEARD THIS FROM OUR, OUR POLICE CHIEF.

UH, A COUPLE OF OUR PUBLIC WORK STAFF WERE OUT DOING THEIR BUSINESS CLEANING UP AND TAKING CARE OF THINGS.

AND, UH, THEY, SOMEBODY THAT WAS HAVING A PROBABLY A MENTAL EPISODE FLIPPED OUT ON THEM AND STARTED HITTING THEIR TRUCK AND TRYING TO ASSAULT THEM.

AND THEY TOOK CARE OF BUSINESS AND THEY TOOK CARE OF THEMSELVES.

THEY KEPT THE CITY SAFE, UH, UNTIL THE POLICE GOT THERE.

I JUST, THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF THAT THEY DEAL WITH AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE QUIET ABOUT IT AND THEY JUST ARE HUMBLE AND HAVE THIS AMAZING DRIVE.

AND I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE THINGS THAT THEY DO FOR US DAY IN, DAY OUT, BEHIND THE SCENES AND, AND SOMETIMES VERY VISIBLE.

SO THANK YOU TO THEM.

THANK YOU.

UH, ANYBODY ON THE COUNCIL WANNA SAY ANYTHING? MICHELLE? GENTLEMEN? I DON'T SEE ANY LADIES, SO I'LL JUST SAY, GENTLEMEN, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOU DO THE HEAVY LIFTING IN THE CITY, LITERALLY RIGHT? .

AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO.

OUR STREETS ARE LOOKING GREAT.

THE CITY'S LOOKING GOOD.

AND BEING MARRIED TO SOMEONE WHO WORKS IN FACILITIES, I APPRECIATE THE HARD WORK, THE SWEATINESS, THE, THE HUNGER, EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS GO THROUGH.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

'CAUSE MY MAN COMES HOME AND I'M SURE HE'S JUST AS TIRED AS YOU GUYS ARE AND I APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR DEDICATION AND, AND HANGING IN THERE.

I KNOW IT'S NOT A FANCY JOB AND I KNOW IT'S NOT GLORY.

YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS DON'T GET ALL THE GLORY, BUT I REALLY DO APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU DO.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, JUST TAKE A COUPLE MINUTES TO SAY THANK YOU AS WELL, AND I'LL CHIME IN WHERE SHE LEFT OFF.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL LEFT OFF WITH GETTING THE GLORY.

I ALWAYS HAVE VIEWED OUR PUBLIC'S WORK TEAM.

UM, I'M A FOOTBALL GUY, SO MY FOOTBALL ANALOGY, IF YOU GUYS WATCH FOOTBALL AS OUR OFFENSIVE LINEMAN OF THE CITY, AND YOU GUYS ARE IN THE TRENCHES DOING ALL THE WORK, SO NO OFFENSE, GRAHAM AND VINCE, SO THOSE GUYS DON'T GET THEIR SUITS DIRTY.

SO THE QUARTERBACK DOESN'T GET THEIR SUITS DIRTY.

THEY'RE IN THERE GRINDING IN THE TRENCHES, DOING ALL THE HARD, HARD WORK, HARD LIFTING.

THAT'S WHAT EACH, EVERY ONE OF YOU GUYS DO.

BUT IT'S ABOUT THE TEAM YOU GUYS ARE, UM, AS JUST AS MUCH OF THE, MOST OF THE TEAM AS ANYONE ELSE IS.

EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T GET THE GLORY AND THE ACCOLADES, YOU GUYS ARE LIKE THE O LINEMEN.

UM, SO THEY CAN, THEY CAN BE STAY PRETTY, BUT I PREFER GETTING DIRTY.

SO, UM, WELL DONE BOYS.

AND WHEN YOU'RE NOT PLAYING FOOTBALL, UH, YOU ARE TEAM MACGYVER.

'CAUSE YOU ARE THE ONES THAT COME UP WITH THE SOLUTIONS THAT JUST, THERE'S NOT ALWAYS A, A PLAN WRITTEN FOR A SOLUTION, BUT YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH AN IDEA, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO, UH, YOU ARE, YOU ARE ALL MEN AND WOMEN, THE TOUGHEST AND THE BRIGHTEST THAT KEEP OUR CITY RUNNING.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH MI MR. ORTIZ.

I DUNNO IF I LIKE THAT ANALOGY.

'CAUSE A LOT OF QUARTERBACKS BUY THEIR LINEMEN ESCALADES AT THE END OF THE SEASON.

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GENTLEMEN, NONE OF YOU GETTING A FREE CALL.

HEY, NOW YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT TO ASK FOR.

YOU BROUGHT IT UP .

WELL, I, I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS DO, ESPECIALLY ON THOSE HOT A HUNDRED DEGREE SUMMER EL CAJON DAYS.

I, I WISH I COULD PROVIDE YOU WITH A LITTLE PERSONAL AIR CONDITIONER TO BLOW COOL AIR ON YOU.

AND IN MOST CASES YOU DON'T WORK WHERE THERE'S AIR CONDITIONING.

AND I KNOW YOU MUST COME HOME ABSOLUTELY EXHAUSTED.

I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT DOESN'T GO UNNOTICED.

SO THANK YOU.

I ECHO WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID, BUT YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT I THINK ABOUT A LOT IS THAT YOUR JOB OVER THE YEARS HAS EVOLVED IN SOME SITUATIONS THAT NOBODY EVER WOULD'VE THOUGHT WHEN, WHEN THEY FIRST STARTED DOING THIS KINDA WORK AND YOU STEPPED UP AND, AND HELPED THE CITY.

AND I KNOW MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW IT, BUT I KNOW IT

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SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OH, AND JUST A QUICK NOTE, I DON'T SEE HER IN THE AUDIENCE HERE, BUT NICOLE, UH, FROM ENGINEERING SERVICES HAS BEEN HELPING OUT FOR A WHILE.

SO I KNOW WE'RE GIVING ACCLIMATE TO THE MEN, BUT ALSO THE, UH, IS SHE BACK THERE? OH, THE WOMEN OF PUBLIC WORKS AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT DAY.

NEXT WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR AMERICA ON MAIN STREET, OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR ADAM TR RUDE.

WILL, WOULD YOU, ADAM, WILL YOU PLEASE JOIN US AT THE PODIUM TO TELL US ABOUT THIS.

HI, ADAM.

HI.

OKAY, WELL THANK YOU, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITY STAFF FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TELL YOU ABOUT AMERICO MAIN STREET TODAY.

UM, IT IS OUR ANNUAL FREE COMMUNITY EVENT.

IT IS GOING TO BE THIS SATURDAY FROM 3:00 PM TO 8:00 PM UH, ALL THROUGH, DOWN OUT DOWNTOWN EL CAJON.

UH, IT'S FREE ADMISSION TO ALL THAT ATTEND AND, UH, WE'D LIKE TO CALL IT EL CAJONS BIGGEST BLOCK PARTY.

REALLY WANNA HIGHLIGHT OUR SPONSORS.

UM, SO OUR PREMIER SPONSOR WAS DOWNTOWN EL CAJON BUSINESS PARTNERS.

UH, WE ALSO HAD A DIAMOND SPONSORSHIP FROM KAISER PERMANENTE AND A PLATINUM SPONSORSHIP FROM SEQUAN BAND OF THE KUMEYAAY NATION.

AND THEN WE HAD SEVERAL, UH, SMALLER SPONSORS THAT CAME THROUGH THIS YEAR.

AND I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT SINCE WE RELAUNCHED AMERICO MAIN STREET, UH, WHEN, WHEN AFTER COVID, THIS IS THE MOST SPONSORSHIP THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED.

AND HOW DID WE MARKET THE EVENT? SO, UH, UH, WE USED SOCIAL MEDIA.

UH, WE ALSO HAD POSTCARDS GO OUT TO OUR RESIDENTS.

UH, WE DID EMAIL BLASTS TO ALL OF OUR PARTICIPANTS.

UH, IF YOU'VE DRIVEN DOWN MAIN STREET, YOU'VE SEEN OUR, OUR BILLBOARD.

UH, WE ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH, UH, ARABIC TV THIS YEAR AND DO A SPOT ON ARABIC TV AND, UH, STREET BANNERS.

UH, ALSO OUR SPRING REC GUIDE.

AND THEN ON THURSDAY MORNING, OUR OWN HEATHER CARTER, OUR PARKS AND REC MANAGER IS GONNA BE AT, UH, KUSI NEWS, DOING A SPOT, UH, TO PROMOTE AMER MAIN STREET.

SOME OF THE EVENT HIGHLIGHTS.

UH, SO FACE PAINTING, I DON'T GET IT PERSONALLY, BUT IT IS AN INCREDIBLY HIGH HIGHLIGHT.

THE KIDS STAND IN LINE FOR 40 MINUTES FOR IT.

SO THAT IS ONE OF OUR ONES THAT, THAT WE HAVE EVERY TIME.

UH, WE'LL HAVE THREE LIVE, UH, ENTERTAINMENT STAGES.

WE WILL HAVE CARNIVAL RIDES AND BOUNCE HOUSES.

WE WILL HAVE A PETTING ZOO.

UH, WE WILL ALSO HAVE A PUBLIC WORK ZONE.

SO OUR PARTNERS FROM PUBLIC WORKS THAT WE'RE JUST UP HERE ARE GONNA DO SOME INTERACTIVE ACTIVITIES AND HAVE SOME REALLY COOL BIG PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THE KIDS LOVE TO, TO, TO CHECK THOSE THINGS OUT.

SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, WE'LL HAVE, UH, GA UH, GAMES AND CRAFTS.

AND, UH, THE ONLY THING THAT'S ON THIS LIST THAT IS OF ANY COST IS OUR FOOD AND CRAFT SALES VENDORS THAT ARE, THAT ARE COMING AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS FREE TO ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

THIS IS A FUND MAP, AND THIS IS ACTUALLY OUR FUND MAP THAT WILL GO OUT TO ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO IN ATTENDANCE.

WE'LL HAVE KIOSKS AT ALL OF THE IN ENTRY POINTS.

AND THIS JUST TELLS ALL OF OUR PATRONS WHERE EVERYTHING IS.

UH, SO IF YOU KIND OF LOOK OVER WHERE THE COUNTY LOT IS AND, AND DOWN ON, ON ON MAIN STREET TOWARDS THE EASTERN SIDE WILL BE OUR AMUSEMENT RIDES.

THE GREEN LABELS ARE OUR FOOD AREAS.

UM, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE MORE ACTIVITIES IN THE PROMENADE ALONG WITH THREE STAGES, CENTENNIAL PLAZA, MAIN STREET STAGE, AND THEN THE PROMENADE STAGE.

UH, AND THEN ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS YEAR IS ON RAYA AVENUE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE ARMED FORCES WAY.

UH, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE ARMY, THE NAVY, OUR OWN VETERANS COALITION, UH, AN ORGANIZATION THAT WORKS WITH, UH, VETERANS CALLED COURAGE TO CALL WILL BE HERE.

UM, AND THEN WE'LL ALSO HAVE AMERICAN LEGION POST 3 0 3.

AND ONE OF THE REALLY COOL THINGS THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS YEAR TOO, IS ONE OF OUR VETERANS COALITION MEMBERS WHO IS ALSO AN AMERICAN LEGION POST 3 0 3 MEMBER IS ALSO A DRONE INSTRUCTOR.

HE WORKS OVER AT GROSSMONT COLLEGE AND HE IS GOING TO BRING OUT DRONE SOCCER FOR THE YOUTH TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN.

SO WE THINK THAT'LL BE A REALLY NICE ADDITION TO THE EVENT .

AND THAT IS MY PRESENTATION.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

ANY QUESTIONS? THANKS.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

IT'S ALWAYS A GREAT EVENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE GONNA TAKE A COUPLE THINGS OUTTA ORDER.

UH, MR.

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YEAH, ABOUT 10 MINUTES.

OKAY, WELL, SO WHAT I'M GONNA DO IS I'M GONNA DO CONSENT ITEMS AND THEN AFTER THAT WE HAVE TO DO A CLOSED SESSION ITEM, WHY OUR ATTORNEY IS STILL HERE.

AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND DO PUBLIC COMMENT AND IT SHOULDN'T TAKE VERY LONG.

SO, UM,

[7. CONSENT ITEMS: Consent Items are routine matters enacted by one motion according to the RECOMMENDATION listed below. With the concurrence of the City Council, a Council Member or person in attendance may request discussion of a Consent Item at this time.]

COUNCIL MEMBER OR PERSON IN ATTENDANCE MAY REQUEST DISCUSSION OF A CONSENT ITEM AT THIS TIME.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO YOU WISH TO PULL ANY OF THE CONSENT ITEMS? OKAY, STAFF? NO, SIR.

ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR CONSENT ITEMS? WE DO, SIR.

ONE FOR ITEM EIGHT.

OKAY, LET'S HIGH TRUTH COMING UP.

HI THERE.

OKAY, SO VIA TRANSPORTATION, I FORGET WHAT THE, UH, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? UH, TOP COMPANY WAS CALLED, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE WORD, BUT I ACTUALLY GAVE A CALL TO VIA TRANSPORTATION TO TRY IT OUT AND NO LUCK.

THEIR WEBSITE CLAIMED, UH, ONE COULD BOOK A RIDE WITHOUT USING THE APP YET.

IF ONE TRIES TO CALL, THEY ACTUALLY ASK FOR A PHONE NUMBER AND THEN THEY SAY ONE MUST PRE-REGISTER AND CREATE AN ACCOUNT THROUGH THE APP.

SO, UH, FALSE ADVERTISING AND THIS PROCESS TO WASTE MY TIME TOOK EXTRA TIME BECAUSE THEIR COMPUTER SYSTEM WAS REPORTEDLY SLOW.

UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S UP WITH THAT.

IT WAS ACTUALLY A FASTER, MORE EXPERIENCE, UH, A MORE EFFICIENT EXPERIENCE TO TAKE A BUS OR TROLLEY INSTEAD.

UM, SO THE SYSTEM SEEMED LIKE A DUD.

AND WHO IN THE WORLD WANTS DANGEROUS FIRE PRONE EVS ON THE ROAD ANYWAYS, OR WANTS TO ACTUALLY HAVE TO PAY TO RIDE IN ONE? SO THIS IS A SERVICE I'M NEVER GONNA USE ANYWHERE.

SO , AND IT'S NOT JUST THE APP THING, I JUST LIKE, YOU GUYS CAN'T EVEN HAVE A GOOD COMPUTER SYSTEM.

SO I THINK IT'S A BAD INVESTMENT.

UH, PERSONALLY, I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE CERTAIN AGENCIES LIKE SANDAG THAT ARE PROMOTING THIS FORM AS SOME KIND OF REALISTIC MODE OF TRANSPORTATION.

IT'S NOT BECAUSE YOU GO, OKAY, WHAT'S THE POINT OF A BUS? WHAT'S THE POINT OF A TROLLEY IS, ARE THESE PRIVATE COMPANIES GONNA COMPETE WITH WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE? THE SYSTEMS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE AT EVERY SINGLE TAX PAYING RESIDENT IS CONTRIBUTING TO THE SYSTEM WHETHER THEY RIDE OR NOT.

AND THEY'RE GONNA CONTRIBUTE MORE WHEN YOU HAVE THESE EXTRA TAXES AND, UH, VEHICLE REGISTRATION FEES COMING UP SOON.

AND SO I ACTUALLY HAVE AN IDEA THAT I HAVE YET TO SAY TO MTS BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE TALKING TO THOSE PEOPLE, WASTING MY TIME WHEN THEY CONTINUE TO GO THIS WAY DOWNHILL.

UH, BUT I ACTUALLY THINK THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE THEIR OWN VERSIONS OF THESE SAME, UH, LITTLE CIRCUIT SHUTTLES OR WHATEVER THEY ARE, BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY AND MAINTAIN THE SYSTEM.

IF THIS IS REALLY VIABLE BECAUSE SANDAG IS SAYING THAT IT IS AND PUSHING IT EVERYWHERE, WELL THEN WHY NOT HAVE MCS AND NCTD HAVE THEIR OWN VERSIONS OF IT AND MAKE MONEY STAY IN BUSINESS.

QUIT WASTING OUR MONEY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

TRUTH.

ANYBODY ELSE? NO.

OKAY, WE'RE GOING DIVERGE FROM THE AGENDA FOR A MOMENT.

OH, I FORGOT ABOUT THAT.

GETTING AHEAD OF MYSELF.

ALRIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANNA SAY ABOUT CONSENT? SO THAT I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE? APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

OKAY, NOW

[23. CLOSED SESSIONS:]

THANK YOU MAYOR.

THE CITY COUNCIL IS GONNA MEET ENC CLOSED SESSION ON THREE ITEMS. THE FIRST IS ITEM NUMBER 23, CLOSED SESSION FOR A CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL ON EXISTING LITIGATION PURSUANT TO PARAGRAPH ONE OF SUBDIVISION D OF GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 5 6 0.9.

THE NAME OF THE CASE IS CITY OF EL CAJON VERSUS JESSICA DETA, BESMAN COHO ETAL.

UH, THE SECOND IS A CLOSED SESSION FOR CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL ON EXISTING LITIGATION PURSUANT TO PARAGRAPH ONE, SUBDIVISION D OF GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 5 6 0.9 TIMOTHY HOWELL VERSUS THE CITY OF CAJON.

AND THE THIRD IS A CLOSED SESSION FOR CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL ON EXISTING LITIGATION PURSUANT TO PARAGRAPH ONE OF SUBDIVISION D OF GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 5 6 0.9.

IT'S A WORKERS' COMP, UH, CLAIM OF KENNETH HARRIS VERSUS CITY OF EL CAJON.

ALRIGHT, I MAKE A MOTION THEN TO AJOUR THE CLOSED SESSION.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUS VOTE.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'LL BE BACK AS QUICK AS WE CAN TO CONCLUDE THE MEETING ROOM.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE ARE BACK.

I'M GONNA ASK OUR CITY ATTORNEY THERE, EXCUSE ME, TO REPORT ON CLOSED SESSION.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

THE CITY COUNCIL MET IN CLOSED SESSION ON THREE ITEMS. ALL THREE OF THEM WERE CONFERENCED WITH LEGAL COUNSEL ON EXISTING LITIGATION.

UM, THE CITY COUNCIL GAVE DIRECTION OR THERE WAS NO, NO DIRECTION GIVEN ON, UH, ITEM 23.

IT WAS AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM.

UH, ITEM

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ITEM 25 DIRECTION WAS GIVEN TO THE, UM, WORKERS' COMP ADJUSTING, UH, AGENT FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY.

AND AGAIN, I WANNA THANK THE AUDIENCE FOR BEING PATIENT WITH US.

WHILE WE HAD TO TAKE THAT OUT OF ORDER, WE ARE NOW AT PUBLIC

[ PUBLIC COMMENT: At this time, any person may address a matter within the jurisdiction of the City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the El Cajon Redevelopment Agency that is not on the Agenda. Comments relating to items on today’s docket are to be taken at the time the item is heard. State law prohibits discussion or action on items not on the Agenda; however, Council, Authority and Agency Members may briefly respond to statements or questions. An item may be placed on a future Agenda.]

AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS A MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE ALCOHOL REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

COMMENTS RELATING TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA ALREADY BE TAKEN AT THE TIME THAT THE ITEM IS HEARD.

STATE LAW PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

HOWEVER, CITY COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND TO STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS, AND AN ITEM MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, SIR.

WE DO.

WE HAVE ONE FROM TRUTH.

HEY TRUTH.

HI, UH, THIS IS FOR STEVE, THE MIC ON.

THERE WE GO.

THIS IS FOR STEVE WHO WANTS TO FIT A USELESS, DANGEROUS ROUNDABOUTS, A MAY 11TH SAN DIEGO UNION TRIBUNE STORY ENTITLED LOCAL STATS SHOW.

NORTH COUNTY ROUNDABOUTS PERFORM POORLY SAID TRAFFIC SETS FOR TWO ROUNDABOUTS ALONG HIGHWAY 1 0 1 INDICATE THE DEVICES MAY BE CAUSING MORE PROBLEMS THAN THEY SOLVE.

COLLISIONS HAVE SKYROCKETED AT A ROUNDABOUT WHERE CARLSBAD BOULEVARD INTERSECTS WITH STATE STREET AFTER FEWER THAN ONE COLLISION ANNUALLY BEFORE THE INSTALLATION, THERE WERE 28 COLLISIONS IN 2020 THROUGH 2024.

AFTER THE ROUNDABOUT.

ALSO PERFORMING POORLY IS A ROUNDABOUT IN ENCINITAS.

I WAS RIGHT NEXT.

AGAIN, I SAW THAT THE LAST MEETING WAS FULL OF PAID MINIONS FROM AS FAR AWAY AS NORTH COUNTY.

THOSE DIVISIVE SELF-PROCLAIMED COMRADES, WHICH IS A COMMUNIST TERM, HAD MUCH HATE TO SPREAD INTO ELCON AGAIN.

UH, SOME EVEN USE THE VIOLENT PHRASE, ERADICATE SOME, USE THE NAME BECKY AS A DISPARAGING TERM, WHICH IS PRETTY RACIST WHEN I KNOW A MEXICAN OFFICIAL NAMED BECKY BUTTROSS.

UH, SOMEONE CLAIMED THAT IF SOMEONE HAS A BROWN SKIN AND BROWN HAIR, THAT THEY WILL FALL IN LINE.

IT COULD FORM WITH THEIR EXTREMIST VIEWS.

WELL, TOO BAD I'M PROOF THAT'S NOT TRUE.

UH, BUT I'M NOT HERE TO DEFEND PHIL ORTIZ.

I'M NOT ON ANY ANYBODY ANYBODY'S SIDE.

I'M ACTUALLY IN THE MIDDLE.

UH, BUT I AM AGAINST LIES MANIPULATION AND HATE.

AND THAT INCLUDES RETALIATION BECAUSE THE RECALL EFFORT IS A CLEAR POLITICAL ATTACK BY OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS.

THEY KNOW THEY CAN'T GET BILL.

SO FILLS THE NEXT IN LINE AS THEIR POLITICAL TARGET.

MEANWHILE, REAL CITY BUSINESS THAT THEY FELL TO NOTICE.

UH, THE LAWSUIT FROM THE WOMEN WHO ALLEGED THEIR CIVIL RIGHTS WERE VIOLATED ON FEBRUARY 2ND WHEN CONCEALED CAMERAS WERE DISCOVERED IN THE WORKPLACE BUNK ROOMS AT FIRE STATION EIGHT.

UH, THE CITY SHOULD HAVE IMMEDIATELY ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE ON FEBRUARY 3RD, NOT MAY 5TH.

UH, CHANCES ARE MANY PEOPLE IN THE BUILDING LIKELY KNEW THAT THERE WERE CAMERAS.

SO PEOPLE NEED TO TAKE, UH, ALL SAFETY SERIOUSLY, ESPECIALLY OF WOMEN.

AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO ASK THAT BILL, IF YOU'RE GONNA BE INVOLVED WITH EPA DIRECTOR LEE DEN, THAT YOU TAKE THE ISSUE OF MEXICO'S ENVIRONMENTAL TERRORISM IN THE FORM OF SEWAGE HITTING OUR COUNTRY ON A DAILY BASIS FOR DECADES, SERIOUSLY ENOUGH TO ADDRESS ON A RECURRING BASIS, NOT JUST ONE TIME AT A PRESS CONFERENCE THAT I IMAGINE SUPERVISOR JOEL ANDERSON INVITED YOU AND VISTA MAYOR JOHN FRANKLIN, ALSO RUNNING TO, UH, PLEASE DO NOT CAMPAIGN ON A CRISIS LIKE IVY MAYOR PALOMA AGUIRE HAS BEEN DOING.

UM, TARIFFS ARE ABOUT ONE ROUTE TO DEMAND ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE.

THERE'S ALSO LOCAL ACTION AT SANDAG WHERE NO TOLL MONEY COULD BE OFFERED TO MEXICO FOR THE FUTURE.

OTAI MESA EAST BORDER CROSSING OR EVEN NOT ALLOWING CARS THROUGH THAT ARE OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH CALIFORNIA EMISSION STANDARDS.

I WELCOME ANY NEW FACES WHO TRULY WANNA ADD THEIR SUPPORT FOR REAL SOLUTIONS TO THE SEWAGE EMERGENCY.

BUT IF SOMEONE'S NOT FULLY ON BOARD, I WANT THEM OUT OF THE WAY.

THE POSITIVE IS THAT THE MODERN DAY RED COATS, THE MEXICO LOYALISTS ARE STARTING TO BE EXPOSED WHETHER THEY RECEIVE 500,000 FROM MEXICAN BUSINESSMEN LIKE KREB NATHAN FLETCHER DID, OR WHETHER THEY PUSH FOR MEXICO TO GET MONEY AND PROJECTS LIKE CHULA VISTA COUNCIL MEMBER CAROLINA CHAVEZ KEEPS DOING, OR WHETHER THEY HAVE VOTED NO AGAINST POLLUTION SOLUTIONS LIKE IB MAYOR PALOMA AGUIRE DID.

I WANT REAL PEOPLE INVOLVED? THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

UH, THIS IS LIKE THE SECOND TIME I'VE HEARD THAT THE CITY WAS NOTIFIED OR THE FEBRUARY 2ND DATE OF THE CAMERA AND THAT WE WAITED TILL MAY 5TH.

AND I'M HEARING THAT WE RESPONDED BY OPENING A POLICE INVESTIGATION THE NEXT DAY.

WHAT CAN YOU TELL ME ABOUT THE DATES MR. GOBEL? NOT EVEN THE NEXT DAY, BUT IN LESS THAN AN HOUR OF US BEING NOTIFIED OF THE CAMERAS, WE ACTUALLY OPENED UP A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.

THE CAMERAS WERE TURNED OVER TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND WE'VE BEEN OPERATING UNDER THAT INVESTIGATION SINCE THEN.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW, FOR THE RECORD, WE WERE ON TOP OF THIS THING.

OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WERE THERE.

THEY DIDN'T WAIT TILL MAY.

THEY DIDN'T EVEN WAIT WHAT SOUNDS LIKE TILL THE NEXT BUSINESS DAY.

SO, UH, WE DO TAKE THESE THINGS ABSOLUTELY SERIOUSLY.

AND, UH, ONCE AGAIN, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS ON TOP OF KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE

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THAT'S GOOD POINTS CHIEF.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, WE HAVE NO WRITTEN, WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

WE HAVE

[11. Delinquent Refuse/Recycling Collection Charges RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council: Opens the Public Hearing and receives public testimony; Closes the Public Hearing; Adopts the next Resolution, in order, to confirm the list of property owners as delinquent in the payment of their mandatory refuse/recycling service bills; and Authorizes the City Clerk to record the amount owed for each account as a lien on the respective property and forward the list to the County Tax Assessor for billing on the next property tax bill.]

ITEM 11 IS FOR DELINQUENT REFUSE RECYCLING COLLECTION CHARGES.

STAFF WILL TELL US ALL ABOUT THIS.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNSEL.

BEFORE I GET STARTED, I'D LIKE TO QUICKLY INTRODUCE OUR EDCO EXECUTIVE TEAM MEMBERS WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT.

UM, WE HAVE STEVE SOUTH, ED ECHO'S, UH, CEO, AND WE HAVE ALSO, UH, CARL SHEBA, ED ECHO'S, GENERAL MANAGER.

AND THEN ANTHONY, UM, FORGIVE ME IF I GET YOUR NAME WRONG, UM, IS IT LUM ENVIRONMENTAL COORDINATOR? AND THEN, UH, DIRECTOR OF REVENUE MANAGEMENT, CINDY HORN.

SO THEY'RE HERE AS SUPPORT TO HELP ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THIS REPORT.

THANKS.

THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S HEARING IS TO RECEIVE PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND CONFIRM AND AUTHORIZE THE PLACEMENT OF LIENS TO BE PLACED ON PROPERTIES WHERE THE TENANTS HAVE NEGLECTED TO PAY THEIR, UH, REFUSE AND RECYCLING BILLS.

ON JANUARY 1ST, 2021, THE CITY ESTABLISHED A FRAN, OR I SHOULD SAY, ENTERED INTO A FRANCHISE AGREEMENT WITH EDCO TO PROVIDE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL REFUSE RECYCLING AND GREEN, UH, OR I SHOULD SAY ORGANIC, UH, WASTE SERVICES IN THE CITY.

AS PART OF THE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT, EDCO MAY COLLECT, UH, DIRECTLY FROM CUSTOMERS FOR THE COST OF SERVICES.

THERE ARE EXEMPTIONS IF RESIDENTS CHOOSE NOT TO PARTICIPATE, UM, OR HAVE TRASH SERVICE.

UH, THEY'RE PRETTY SPECIFIC AND VERY FAR.

AND FEW, THEIR PROPERTY HAS TO BE VACANT AS ONE CONDITION, OR THEY COULD SELF HAUL THEIR WASTE IN RECYCLING.

UM, THEY COULD HAVE A CURRENT EDCO COMMERCIAL ACCOUNT AND THE CITY UNDER THE NAME, UM, UNDER THEIR NAME.

AND THEN HAUL TO THAT, UH, THAT ADDRESS.

AND INSTANCES WHEN CUSTOMERS DO NOT PAY THE FEES, THE CITY ASSISTS EDCO BY PLACING A LIEN, UM, ON THE PROPERTIES FOR DELINQUENT AMOUNTS, THE COLLECTED OUTSTANDING BALANCES THEN GETS REMITTED BACK TO EDCO.

SO WE ARE IN THE FOURTH YEAR OF USING A PROPERTY LIEN PROCESS WITH EDCO.

THIS TABLE SHOWS THE HISTORIC, UH, AVERAGE OF DELINQUENT ACCOUNTS DATING BACK TO 2017.

UH, THE GREEN SHOWS THE PAST FOUR YEARS OF LIENS WITH EDCO, AND THE BLUE SHOWS AN ANNUAL AVERAGE, UH, LIENS WHEN THE CITY WAS WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT.

THE WASTE MANAGEMENT, UM, ACCOUNTING PROCESS USED TO COLLECT THREE TIMES PER YEAR.

SO THAT BLUE NUMBER IS BASED ON AN AVERAGE.

UM, AS OF JANUARY, 2025, THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 1,100 AND, OR, I'M SORRY, 1019 DELINQUENT ACCOUNTS.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, AS OF APRIL 23RD, THE NUMBER OF DELINQUENT ACCOUNTS HAS BEEN REDUCED TO 206 ACCOUNTS.

APRIL 23RD IS THE DATE THAT I SUBMITTED THE STAFF REPORT.

UH, YOU SHOULD HAVE AN UPDATED LIEN LIST IN FRONT OF YOU, I THINK.

YES.

OKAY, GOOD.

UM, REFLECTING THE MOST CURRENT, WHICH, UH, EITHER IS IT 1 52, 1 49? IT'S 1 49 DELINQUENT ACCOUNTS.

UM, TO THIS MOMENT IT'S 1 55.

YEAH.

SO THAT NUMBER HAS GONE DOWN TO 1 49.

UM, EDCO HAS PLACED A GREAT DEAL OF EFFORT ON, UM, ON BRINGING THE ACCOUNTS BACK INTO GOOD STANDINGS THROUGH A VARIETY OF OUTREACH METHODS, INCLUDING TRADITIONAL MAILINGS, MULTIPLE INVOICES, EMAILS, CARTS, UH, NOTICES ON CARTS, AUTOMATED CALLS AND PERSONAL CALLS FROM REPRESENTATIVES.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT OUTREACH HAS PAID OFF AND REDUCING THE NUMBER OF ACCOUNTS THAT ARE DELINQUENT.

AND WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

UM, AT THIS TIME, STAFF RECOMMENDS CON OR CONDUCTING THE PUBLIC HEARING, ADOPTING RESOLUTION, CONFIRMING THE, UH, WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS 155 ACCOUNTS, AND WE'LL GET THAT NUMBER RIGHT, UH, TOMORROW, AS, AS PEOPLE CONTINUE TO PAY THE END OF DAY TODAY, UM, WITH THE VALUE OF APPROXIMATELY $46,000 WITH FEES AND AS DELINQUENT AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY CLERK TO RECORD THE AMOUNTS OWED ON THE, UH, EACH ACCOUNT AS A LIEN.

THANK YOU.

DAVID.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR DA? GO, STEVE.

HI, DAVE.

UM, THE LIST LOOKS LIKE MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL

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IS IT? OR IS IT A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL? I BELIEVE THEY'RE ALL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

SO THE COMMERCIAL PEOPLE, DO THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT, UH, RULE OR ARE THEY REALLY, ARE YOU REALLY GOOD ABOUT GETTING THEM TO BE CURRENT? I MAY INVITE CINDY HORN UP HERE.

SHE MIGHT HAVE AN ANSWER FOR YOU.

THAT'S MORE FITTING THAN MY ANSWER.

ONE SEC.

HI, CINDY.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

WE HAVE A COLLECTION CREW THAT ACTUALLY CALLS ON ALL THE COMMERCIAL CUSTOMERS AND WE PURSUE THEM BY PHONE CALLS OR WHATEVER METHOD EMAILS, SENDING THEM INVOICES.

AND WE HAVE A VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL, UH, GROUP THAT COLLECTS ON THESE CUSTOMERS.

SO WE VERY, VERY FEW CUSTOMERS THAT DO NOT PAY US IN THE COMMERCIAL SECTOR.

AND, AND JUST CURIOSITY, WHY IS THAT? WELL, WE PROVIDE A GREAT SERVICE.

AGREED.

AND THEY NEED THAT SERVICE, SO AGREED.

OKAY.

I THINK THAT'S THE REASON WHY THEY RESPOND SO WELL.

SOUNDS GOOD.

OKAY.

AND THEN ONCE A LIEN GOES ON HERE, YOU STILL CONTINUE TO PROVIDE TRASH SERVICE EVEN TO THOSE THAT ARE DELINQUENT? UH, THAT'S CORRECT.

CONVERTS TO A LIEN, THEIR ACCOUNT GETS RESET TO ZERO, SO TO SPEAK, BECAUSE THE LIEN'S ON THE PROPERTY.

BUT YOU DON'T STOP SERVICE BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S IN ARREARS, CORRECT? NO, WE DO NOT STOP SERVICE.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM .

SO IF A RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER, UM, BECAUSE IT TAKES A WHILE TO GET UP TO THE 450 THOU, YOU KNOW, $450, UM, IF A RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMER, YOU PUT A LIEN ON THEIR HOUSE, AS SOON AS THEY PAY THAT OFF, THEY'LL GET THE LIEN REMOVED, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

AND DO THEY, DO THEY UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE PUTTING A LIEN ON THEIR HOUSE? WE, WE'VE BEEN, THE REASON WE'VE EVEN BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING OUR LIST SO LOW IS BECAUSE WE'VE DONE A LOT OF EDUCATION WITH A LOT OF THESE OWNERS, AND SOME OF THEM DID NOT EVEN REALIZE THAT THAT LIEN DID EXIST BEFORE.

SO WE'VE GOT A REAL GOOD RAPPORT WITH THESE OWNERS AND GETTING THEM TO PAY.

AND THEY DO UNDERSTAND.

YEAH.

OKAY.

I WOULD, I JUST WENT OVER THE LIST.

I KNOW AT LEAST TWO PEOPLE , , AND SO I WAS LIKE, DANG, I, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THEY, YOU KNOW, WERE NOT PAYING THEIR GARBAGE BILL THERE.

THERE'S ABOUT 35 OF THEM THAT, UH, CONTINUALLY, UM, DO NOT PAY AND GO TO LIEN EVERY YEAR.

I, I WANNA POINT OUT, UM, MS. MITCHELL, THIS DOESN'T GO ON.

THE PROPERTY DOESN'T WAIT TILL IT'S, THE HOUSE IS SOLD.

THIS GOES ON THE PROPERTY TAX ROLL.

SO THEY PAY IT WITH THEIR BY FOR THEIR PROPERTY TAX.

EXACTLY.

SO MAYBE SOME OF THEM ARE JUST, THEY JUST WAIT, IT'S THEIR WAY TO PAY IT, SO, OKAY.

YEAH, I THINK NEVERMIND THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A METHOD THAT SOME CHOOSE, CHOOSE TO PAY.

OKAY.

WELL, I WON'T GO KNOCKING ON THEIR DOORS THEN.

.

THANK YOU.

UH, CINDY, I WANTED TO THANK YOU, THANK YOU AND CARL AND YOUR TEAM FOR MAKING IT, UH, FOR MAKING EDCO SUCH A GREAT CORPORATE CITIZEN.

YOU GUYS ARE JUST DOING A FANTASTIC JOB.

WELL, WE ENJOY SERVING THE CITY, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR PUBLIC HEARING? WE HAVE NO CARD, SIR.

THEN I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE BACK TO CITY COUNCIL.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, MOVE ADOPTION, UH, AS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

[12. Legislative Report - Spring 2025 RECOMMENDATION: This is an informational item. No action is required by the City Council.]

THE, UM, ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT THAT STARTS WITH ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER VINCE DIMAGGIO TELLING US ABOUT LEGISLATION THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

NO, IF THIS, IF THIS WASN'T , IF THIS WASN'T SO TRAGIC, IT WOULD BE MY FAVORITE REPORT OF THE YEAR.

BUT, UM, SO WE HAVE 2300 BILLS THAT MET THE FILING DEADLINE IN FEBRUARY.

UH, 300 OF THEM, ROUGHLY 15% HAVE TO DO WITH, UM, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT OR PLANNING RELATED ISSUES.

SO WE'RE KEEPING OUR EYES ON MANY OF THOSE, AS IS THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES.

UM, I'LL GO OVER JUST A FEW OF THE MORE ENTERTAINING ONES HERE ON YOUR LIST AND ALL OF THEM ON THE LIST RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WE'RE VERY EARLY IN THE SESSION, THERE'S SOME DEADLINES THAT ARE COMING UP IN MAY.

UM, ALL OF THEM ARE STILL IN ONE

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THERE'S SOME THAT ARE IN THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE OR, OR THE SUSPENSE FILE THAT COMES UP HERE IN, UM, LATER ON IN MAY.

AND THIS IS A TWO YEAR, THIS IS A FIRST YEAR OF A TWO YEAR SESSION.

SO A LOT OF THESE BILLS THAT FAIL TO GET OUTTA THE SUSPENSE FILE IN MAY, MAY COME BACK NEXT YEAR.

THERE, THERE'S A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF THAT, UM, PARTICULARLY PERTAINING TO POLICE CANINES.

UM, SO LET ME JUST GO OVER JUST A FEW OF THEM VERY QUICKLY.

UM, AB 1333, WHICH WE HAD A SPECIAL, UM, AGENDA ITEM ON, BECAUSE THAT IS THE CHANGE TO THE CASTLE DOCTRINE, THE CONCEPT OF JUSTIFIABLE HOMICIDE WHILE DEFENDING HOME AND PROPERTY.

UM, CONTRARY TO WHAT THE AUTHOR HAS SAID NUMEROUS TIMES IN PUBLIC, THIS BILL IS ACTIVE.

IT HAS BEEN AMENDED, IT'S IN COMMITTEE, IT HAS NOT BEEN WITHDRAWN.

UM, WE WROTE A LETTER ON IT.

AND SO IT'S, IT'S STILL ADVISABLE THAT WE KEEP OUR EYES ON THIS BECAUSE IT HAS CONTINUED TO STAY ALIVE DESPITE WHAT, WHAT HAS BEEN PUBLICLY SAID BY THE AUTHOR, UM, SB 3 29 BY BLAKE SPEAR.

THIS, THIS WOULD ACTUALLY REQUIRE THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, UH, AND SETS UP CERTAIN TIMELINES THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH HAS TO INVESTIGATE, UH, COMPLAINTS REGARDING, UH, DRUG AND ALCOHOL TREATMENT AND RECOVERY FACILITIES.

SO THESE ARE FACILITIES THAT IN SOME INSTANCES, WE HAVE VERY LITTLE, UM, REGULATORY CONTROL OVER.

AND SO THIS PROVIDES A MECHANISM WHEREBY SOMEONE CAN ISSUE A COMPLAINT AND THAT A COMPLAINT HAS TO BE ACTED ON WITHIN A TIME CERTAIN.

SO I THINK THAT'S A POSITIVE.

UH, BILL, UH, AB 11, UH, IS AN INTERESTING BILL.

UM, THIS CREATES THE CALIFORNIA HOUSING AUTHORITY, A STATEWIDE HOUSING AUTHORITY WITH THE ABILITY TO, UH, PRODUCE AND, UM, FINANCE ITS OWN HOUSING, UH, THROUGHOUT THE STATE, UH, IN VARIOUS AREAS.

AND THAT HOUSING WOULD COUNT TOWARDS THE ARENA, UH, NUMBERS FOR THEIR JURISDICTIONS, SO THAT, THAT MAY, THAT COULD ALSO HAVE AN EFFECT.

UM, IN TERMS OF, UH, HOUSING PRODUCTION IN CITIES THROUGHOUT THE STATE, INCLUDING OURS, UM, AB 1154, UH, THIS WOULD, UH, PROHIBIT, UH, LOCAL AGENCIES FROM IMPOSING PARKING STANDARDS FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS, UM, THAT ARE 500 SQUARE FEET OR SMALLER.

IT'S TYPICALLY A STUDIO TYPE APARTMENT.

SO YOU CANNOT, WE CANNOT HAVE, UH, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT REQUIRE PARKING IN THAT CASE.

UM, AB 9 92, UH, REQUIRES, UH, POLICE OFFICERS TO ACQUIRE AN ASSOCIATES BACHELOR'S OR TWO YEARS OF MILITARY SERVICE WITHIN 30 MONTHS OF RECEIVING THEIR POST CERTIFICATION.

UM, ANOTHER, UH, POLICE ORIENTED, UH, BILL IS AB 400.

THIS WOULD REQUIRE THAT EVERY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY THAT OPERATES WITH A CANINE UNIT MAINTAIN A POLICY FOR THE USE OF THE CANINES, UM, THAT COMPLIES WITH THE STANDARDS ESTABLISHED BY POST.

SO THERE'S CONTINUING EMPHASIS ON TRYING TO KIND OF SQUEEZE THE REGULATIONS ON CANINE UNITS.

THERE'S A, THERE'S A FEELING AT THE STATE THAT, UH, BASICALLY I'LL JUST SAY FOR, SAY IT FOR WHAT IT IS THAT POLICE AGENCIES, LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES DON'T KNOW HOW TO ADOPT, DON'T KNOW, UM, HOW TO HANDLE CANINE UNITS.

AND THEY DON'T, UH, THE PEOPLE AT THE STATE, THE LEGISLATORS AT THE STATE REALLY THINK THAT THIS IS LIKE ALABAMA IN THE 1960S, THAT INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT CANINE UNITS AS, AS FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE, SAVING PEOPLE, SAVING OFFICERS PREVENTING THE DRAWING OF A GUN, THEY THINK THAT THIS IS SOME SORT OF RACIALLY MOTIVATED THING, AND THEY'RE KIND OF CRACKING DOWN ON CANINE UNITS.

SO WE CONTINUE TO WATCH THE EROSION OF, OF CANINE UNITS AND, AND THEIR USE.

UM, SB 3 46, UH, THIS AUTHORIZES THIS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT COULD HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT.

ACTUALLY.

THIS, THIS ALLOWS LOCAL AGENCIES TO ADOPT ORDINANCES THAT REQUIRE, UH, COMPANIES SUCH AS AIRBNB OR VRBO OR ANY SORT OF RENTAL FACILITATORS TO TRANSMIT INFORMATION TO THE CITIES TO ENFORCE THE COLLECTION OF TOT.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S POSITIVE BECAUSE WE HAVE, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT TOT WE'RE RECEIVING, WHAT TOT WE'RE NOT RECEIVING.

I'M GONNA SAVE THE NEXT ONE HERE BECAUSE FOR LAST, BECAUSE IT'S THE BEST ONE.

SO HOLD ON.

AND I'LL RETURN TO, I'LL RETURN TO SB 6 34, WHICH IS MY PERSONAL FAVORITE, UM, SB 4 96.

AS I SAID, MY STAFF REPORT, THIS ACTUALLY HAS ITS ORIGINS RIGHT HERE IN EL CAJON AT THIS TABLE.

UH, MR. MITCHELL AND I ACTUALLY WERE, UM, THE PEOPLE WHO KIND OF PROPOSED THIS, UM, THIS WOULD, UM, ADD PUBLIC WORKS VEHICLES AS FIRST RESPONDER VEHICLES AND EXEMPT THEM FROM THE ELECTRIFICATION MANDATE.

SO WE CAME UP WITH THIS, UM, LATE JANUARY, EARLY FEBRUARY, STRUGGLED VERY, UH, VERY ENCOUNTERED A LOT OF DIFFICULTY TRYING TO FIND SOMEBODY TO SUPPORT

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AND IT'S BEEN GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS VERY QUICKLY.

SO THE IDEA BEING ON THE HEELS OF THE, UM, LA FIRES THAT IF A FIRE WERE TO HAPPEN HERE LOCALLY, OUR THOUGHT WAS IF PUBLIC WORKS VEHICLES ARE SUBJECT TO THE ELECTRIFICATION MANDATE, AND SDG E FOR EXAMPLE, DOES WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO IN FIRE WEATHER, IS TO TURN OFF THE ELECTRICITY.

WE HAVE A BUNCH OF VEHICLES THAT CAN'T RESPOND BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT CHARGED.

OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

IF THEY'RE CODE ENFORCEMENT VEHICLES, IT'S NOT FINE IF THEY'RE POLICE, FIRE OR PUBLIC WORKS VEHICLES.

AS YOU SAW WHEN YOU HAD ALL THE PUBLIC WORKS, UH, PERSONNEL HERE JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO.

THEY ALL HAVE A PATCH SAYING FIRST RESPONDERS.

SO WE DO DEPEND ON THEM TO BE AN INTEGRATED PART TO OUR FIRST RESPONDER, UH, FORCE, UH, WHEN DISASTER STRIKES.

SO IT ONLY MAKES SENSE THAT AS WE MOVE TOWARDS ELECTRIFICATION, THAT WE, WE MOVE TOWARDS THEM LATER AS THE TECHNOLOGY, UH, GETS BETTER.

AND WE DON'T MANDATE THAT THEIR VEHICLES BECOME ELECTRIFIED UNDER THE 20 30 20 35 MANDATE.

UH, SB 74, UH, PROVIDES GAP FUNDING BY WAY OF STATE GRANTS FOR CERTAIN INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.

SO THAT'S GOOD.

WE, WE HAVE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS HERE IN THE CITY THAT RECEIVE, UH, FUNDING FROM GENERAL FUND GAS TAX, UM, UH, GRANTS.

UM, SO OTHER STATE GRANTS THAT COULD BE AVAILABLE WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO US IN DOING INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS.

UM, AB 2 53.

UM, THIS BILL WOULD REQUIRE THE CITY TO PROVIDE A BUILDING PERMIT APPLICANT WITH AN ESTIMATED TIMEFRAME TO COMPLETE A PLAN CHECK UPON RECEIVING A COMPLETED APPLICATION.

UM, I DON'T KNOW, WHICH, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO RECOMMEND HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS.

UM, THIS, THIS, A LOT OF TIMES, AS YOU KNOW, YOU'LL RECEIVE, UM, INQUIRIES FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS ABOUT WHY SOMETHING IS TAKING SO LONG.

AND 99% OF THE TIME, IT'S BECAUSE THE APPLICATION ISN'T COMPLETE, UH, FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER.

THIS PROVIDES, UH, US, THIS REQUIRES US TO PROVIDE A TIMEFRAME FOR WHEN WE WILL COMPLETE THE BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW AND ISSUE THE BUILDING PER PERMIT AND COMPLETE THE PLAN CHECK AFTER THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN COMPLETED.

SO OBVIOUSLY, THEY HAVE TO DOT ALL THE I'S AND CROSS ALL THE TS.

AB, UH, 5 0 7, 5 0 7 ALLOWS ADAPTIVE REUSE CONVERT OF AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUILDING BY RIGHT IN ALL ZONES, REGARDLESS OF THE ZONING OF THE SITE, UM, AND SUBJECTS IT TO A, UH, STREAMLINED 60 DAY MINISTERIAL PROCESS.

SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE EXAMPLES WHERE THE PEOPLE IN SACRAMENTO DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT CITY PLANNING, BECAUSE YOU HAVE, ALLOWING THIS IN ALL ZONES IS VERY DANGEROUS BECAUSE YOU HAVE ZONES THAT ARE SPECIFIC.

THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR ZONES IS, IS DONE SPECIFIC TO THAT ZONE'S USAGE.

SO IF YOU HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE, THE, THE WATER, THE SEWER, THE STORM DRAIN, ALL OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS SPECIFIC TO WHY THAT ZONE IS THERE AND HOW THAT ZONE WAS PLANNED TO BE THERE, ALLOWING ADAPTIVE REUSE AND THEN ALLOWING, UM, LARGE, UH, YOU KNOW, HIGH DENSITY IN THAT ADAPTIVE REUSE IS GOING TO STRESS THE SYSTEM.

JUST LIKE, UM, SB NINE, THE SB NINE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE, THE LATERAL THAT RUNS TO YOUR HOUSE, IT'S MOST LIKELY AN INCH OR AN INCH AND A HALF.

IF YOU'RE TEEING OFF OF THAT, YOU KNOW, THREE MORE LINES, YOU'RE GONNA STRESS THE SYSTEM.