Aug 13, 2024 City Council Meeting 3pm

NOW AT CONSENT ITEMS. CONSENT ITEMS ARE ROUTINE MATTERS ENACTED BY ONE MOTION ACCORDING TO THE RECOMMENDATION LISTED BELOW WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

VERY GOOD JOB AS ALWAYS.

ALRIGHT, AGENDA CHANGES.

STAFF, DO WE HAVE ANY AGENDA CHANGES? UH, NO SIR.

COUNCIL MEMBERS? NO.

ALRIGHT, WE'RE

[7. CONSENT ITEMS: Consent Items are routine matters enacted by one motion according to the RECOMMENDATION listed below. With the concurrence of the City Council, a Council Member or person in attendance may request discussion of a Consent Item at this time.]

A COUNCIL MEMBER OR PERSON IN ATTENDANCE MAY REQUEST DISCUSSION OF A CONSENT ITEM AT THIS TIME.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO YOU WISH TO PULL ANY OF THE CONSENT ITEMS? STAFF? NO.

MR. MAYOR.

ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR CONSENT ITEMS? NO.

SPEAKER, SIR.

MAKE A MOTION THEN TO APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS. SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

THAT BRINGS

[ PUBLIC COMMENT: At this time, any person may address a matter within the jurisdiction of the City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the El Cajon Redevelopment Agency that is not on the Agenda. Comments relating to items on today’s docket are to be taken at the time the item is heard. State law prohibits discussion or action on items not on the Agenda; however, Council, Authority and Agency Members may briefly respond to statements or questions. An item may be placed on a future Agenda.]

US TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS A MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE EL CAJON REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

COMMENTS RELATING TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA ALREADY BE TAKEN AT THE TIME THE ITEM IS HEARD.

STATE LAW PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

HOWEVER, CITY COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY THE RESPOND TO STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS, AND AN ITEM MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, WE DO, SIR.

WE HAVE TWO.

THE FIRST ONE IS BRENDA HAMMOND.

HEY, BRENDA, YOU, SO MY MESSAGE TODAY IS IF YOU SEE SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING.

I WAS LOOKING BACK ON MY BOOK NOTES AND I WAS, UM, REMINDED THAT 23 YEARS AGO THIS WEEK, I SAT WITH A MAN AT A COFFEE SHOP WHILE HE TOLD ME HOW MUCH HE HATED AMERICA AND HOW BADLY HE FELT HE WAS BEING TREATED.

AND HE THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS THE MAN, THE LAND OF, UM, MILK AND HONEY.

MY ANSWER WAS, WHY DON'T YOU JUST GO BACK HOME? HE TURNED TO ME AND HE SAID, HONEY, THERE'S GOING TO BE AN EMERGENCY IN YOUR UNITED STATES AFTER NINE 11.

I FOUND OUT WHO THAT DUDE WAS.

UM, AND HE'S TRYING TO GET OUT OF THE DEATH PENALTY NOW.

BUT FIRST I GOTTA TELL YOU THIS, I DIDN'T CRACK AND I'M NOT GOING TO MAYOR WELLS .

IT CAN'T BE ONE OF YOUR PATIENTS.

SO, OKAY, SO HERE'S THE FUN STUFF.

UM, I HAVE FOR PHYSICAL THERAPY.

I LEARNED IN A PAIN CLINIC CLASS HOW TO USE BALLOONS FOR, UM, STRETCHING AND, YOU KNOW, HELPING, UH, PHYSICAL CHRONIC, A CHRONIC PHYSICAL PAIN THAT I HAVE.

SO WHEN I'M DONE WITH THEM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THEM.

I DON'T WANNA WANNA POP 'EM.

SO I BRING THEM TO THE CONCERTS AND THAT'S WHEN YOU SEE THE BALLOONS ALL FLYING ALL OVER THE PLACE.

'CAUSE THE KIDS LOVE 'EM.

THEY'RE WAITING FOR THE MUSIC TO START.

THEY'RE BORED.

SO THEY'RE KNOCKING THE BALLOONS AROUND.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU.

UM, I TRY TO PICK UP THE POPPED ONES.

THE LAST SPEAKER IS MARYANNE OSTER.

IT'S OKAY.

WE'RE GOOD.

HI MARY.

WILL YOU PULL THE MICROPHONE TOTALLY OFF THE CUFF? UM, IT'S OKAY.

BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO GIVE WARNING.

IN ANCIENT GREEK, THERE WAS THE, UH, TROJAN PRINCESS CASSANDRA WHO WAS GIVEN THE GIFT OF FORESEEING THE FUTURE, BUT NOBODY WAS BELIEVED.

HER APOLLO WOULD NOT ALLOW HER TO BE BELIEVED.

I'M HERE BECAUSE I'M GIVING YOU THE WARNING.

UM,

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I LIVE ON 1114 STREET.

UM, THE INTERSTATE EIGHT FREEWAY RUNS RIGHT BEHIND MY HOUSE.

REKA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS WITHIN BLOCKS OF THAT AREA, THAT OVERPASS.

THERE ARE FOUR AREAS, FOUR QUADRANTS.

NOW, I AM BEST BUDS WITH CALTRANS.

I KNOW THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE I HAVE TALKED TO, UM, SENATOR, THE SENATOR'S OFFICE.

UM, I HAVE BEEN WITH SO MANY AGENCIES, I CANNOT TELL YOU IT IS.

THAT WHOLE AREA IS SO DANGEROUS.

WHAT HAPPENS IS, AND IT'S NOT JUST TRANSIENT.

THE THE THING YOU DON'T GUYS DON'T UNDERSTAND IS WITH THE TRANSIENT, WITH THE HOMELESS, THERE ARE EMBEDDED CRIMINAL ELEMENTS.

THERE ARE DRUG DEALERS THAT ARE THERE, THERE ARE THIEVES THAT ARE THERE.

SO THERE'S A VERY DANGEROUS GROUP THAT'S EMBEDDED THEMSELVES IN THIS ARENA.

WHAT HAPPENS IS, IT'S NOT CAJONS JURISDICTION UNLESS IT COMES ON MY PROPERTY.

BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS CALTRANS WILL COME WITH HIGHWAY PATROL.

THEY CLEAN OUT THE AREA.

THE NEXT THING WE KNOW, THE THE WHOLE AREA WILL AGAIN, THE FENCING WILL GET CUT.

THE ELEMENTS COME IN, THE DRUG DEALERS COME BACK 'CAUSE THEY'RE MAKING THEIR RUNS.

OKAY? THEY COME BACK, CALTRANS CLEANS UP, YOU KNOW, HIGHWAY PATROL KICKS THEM OUT THE NEXT DAY, GUESS WHAT? THE FENCES ARE.

CUT AGAIN.

IT IS SO DANGEROUS FOR THOSE KIDS TO WALK TO SCHOOL, TO RANK A SCHOOL IN THAT AREA.

I'M TELLING YOU, WHEN A CHILD GETS RAPED, WHEN A CHILD GETS MURDERED, WHEN A CHILD GETS KIDNAPPED, IT IS ON ALL OF US.

IT IS GOING TO BE ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US BECAUSE WE HAVE NOT WORKED TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

THE FENCING IS NOT WORKING.

GOVERNMENT IS NOT WORKING.

CALTRANS IS SPENDING, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY TO REPLACE THAT DAMN FENCE AND THEN TO HAVE IT CUT EVERY SINGLE TIME.

ON MY WAY OVER HERE, I SAW THE FENCE HAD BEEN CUT AGAIN.

OKAY? SCHOOL STARTS, BY THE WAY, ON THE 15TH, THE FENCE HAD BEEN CUT AGAIN.

THERE WERE 10 PEOPLE ENTERING BEHIND MY HOUSE AREA.

NOW, LET ME TELL YOU THE OTHER REASON.

I'M TRYING TO STAY WITHOUT CRYING.

I HEAR ALL THIS STUFF GOING ON BEHIND MY HOUSE.

I HAVE NOW INVESTED LIKE $30,000 IN MY BACKYARD.

I HAVE A BARBED WIRE FENCE AND THEN A TREK FENCING.

OKAY? I HAVE SECURITY ALL OVER THE PLACE.

SO I HEAR ALL THIS STUFF GOING ON BEHIND THERE.

I HEARD DIGGING THIS WEEK FOR, OR LAST WEEK FOR LIKE FOUR HOURS.

I HAVE NO WHAT? I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE DIGGING, WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

I DON'T KNOW.

ALL KNOW THAT FOR A FACT.

MY BIG DOG BARKS TO ALERT ME WHERE THEY ARE.

OKAY? SO I HEARD ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO OR SO.

WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA POISON THAT DAMN DOG.

OKAY? I HEARD THAT BEHIND MY HOUSE.

SO I'VE BEEN WATCHING HIM VERY CAREFULLY.

WELL, GUESS WHAT HAPPENED? FRIDAY NIGHT HE GOT POISONED.

OKAY, SATURDAY MORNING, I'M RUSHING HIM TO EMERGENCY.

OKAY? TWO DAYS, THREE DAYS IN INTENSIVE CARE IN THE HOSPITAL, $6,500, OKAY? HE'S BACK HOME.

ALL KINDS OF MEDS AND STUFF.

IF A DOG IS POISONED, WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY'RE GONNA DO TO A KID THAT'S WALKING TO ARANKA SCHOOL TWO DAYS FROM NOW, THAT AREA IS STILL NOT SECURED.

IT'S STILL NOT OKAY.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT ACT OF GOD IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO GET AGENCIES TO START WORKING TOGETHER, TO GET DECENT FENCING THERE LIKE YOU HAVE AT PARKWAY PLAZA.

CALTRANS PUT UP A FENCE FOR A VACANT LOT.

I GUESS THE PRIORITY FOR A VACANT LOT IS A HELL OF A LOT BETTER THAN A PRIORITY FOR KIDS WALKING TO SCHOOL.

I SAW A POOR MOM ABOUT A MONTH AND A HALF AGO WALKING WITH HER THREE LITTLE KIDS.

TRUE STORY, OKAY? SHE WAS WALKING THROUGH THAT OVERPASS AREA, SAW A CRAZED MAN JUMP OUT AT HER, AND OF COURSE SHE COULDN'T SEE IT BECAUSE HE'S HIDDEN, BUT HE HAD HIS BIG ENOUGH HOLE TO TAKE AND JUMP OUT AT HER AND START LURCHING TOWARDS HER.

THAT'S NOT SAFETY IN EL CAJON.

IT'S GONNA BE ON ALL OF YOU GUYS.

IT'S GONNA BE ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU PEOPLE WHEN SOMETHING AWFUL HAPPENS.

SO I'M ASKING YOU, I'M PLEADING WITH YOU.

I'M SAYING HELP WORK TOGETHER WITH CALTRANS, WITH HIGHWAY PATROL, WITH THE ELK HOME POLICE DEPARTMENT, GET RESOLUTION, GET DECENT FENCING IN THERE LIKE YOU HAVE FOR OVER BY PARKWAY PLAZA.

LIKE THE VACANT LOT WITH THE GUY WHO'S GONNA BE BUILDING MILLION DOLLAR HOMES.

WHERE I LIVE IS A SECTION EIGHT HOUSING AREA.

WE'RE POOR.

OKAY? MY GUESS IS THIS WOULD NOT BE GOING DOWN IF IT WERE RANCHO SANTA FE.

AND WE ALL KNOW THAT.

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SO WHY AM I HERE? I WAS A TEACHER FOR ALMOST 40 YEARS.

I FEEL GUILTY WHEN I SEE THOSE LITTLE KIDS WALKING TO SCHOOL AND THEY WILL BE WALKING TO SCHOOL AND THEY WILL BE WALKING HOME AND THEY'RE GONNA BE WALKING PAST THE MOST MISERABLE ENVIRONMENT IN THE WORLD.

THEY'RE GONNA BE WALKING PAST DRUG DEALERS.

SO DON'T GIVE ME THIS THING ABOUT SAYING NO TO DRUGS, BECAUSE IT'S ALL ON US WHEN SOMETHING REALLY AWFUL HAPPENS.

SO HERE I AM, 73-YEAR-OLD SENIOR CITIZEN, CASSANDRA, GIVING YOU ALL WARNING.

GET YOUR ACTS TOGETHER.

FIGURE OUT HOW AS AGENCIES YOU'RE GONNA WORK TOGETHER TO GET RESOLUTION.

BECAUSE I'VE, I'VE TALKED TO CALTRANS.

I'M NOW ON FIRST NAME BASIS WITH TYLER HICKS, AND WHEN I GOT THE EMAIL FROM HIM, WELL, MARYANNE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE NEW FENCING BECAUSE THE FENCING IS AN ORDER THAT IT WAS REQUESTED.

NOW, IF THAT'S THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA'S POLICY INSTEAD OF PRIORITY NEAR AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM.

THAT'S LIKE, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING? YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU EVEN THINKING? SO SYBIL, YOU KNOW THE THE CASSANDRA THING? I'M GIVING YOU A WARNING.

WHEN A CHILD IS MOLESTED, A CHILD IS RAPED, A CHILD IS MURDERED, IT'S ON ALL OF US AS A COMMUNITY.

OKAY? DOG IS GONNA LIVE.

BUT IF A DOG IS POISONED, GUESS WHAT? WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY'RE GONNA DO TO A KID? OKAY, THAT'S IT.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING, GRAHAM.

I DID YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING, GRAHAM? OH, NO.

OH, OKAY.

I MEAN, I, I MEAN THE COUNCIL IS AWARE WE WORK WELL WITH CALTRANS.

CALTRANS IS ACTUALLY, UH, PUT A LOT OF RESOURCES IN EL CAJON RECENTLY.

THEY'VE PUT ON A LOT OF FENCING.

AND IT IS BASED ON PRIORITY AREAS, BUT LIKE ALL HOMELESS ISSUES, WE JUST KEEP PUSHING THE PROBLEM.

I KNOW THE GOVERNOR CAME OUT LOOKING AT MY HIGH HORSE.

THE GOVERNOR CAME OUT AND SAID, CITIES TAKE CARE OF HOMELESS.

WELL, THERE'S, THERE'S NOWHERE TO GO.

RIGHT? AND SO WE JUST PUSH PEOPLE AROUND FROM PLACE TO PLACE.

AND AS CALTRANS HAS PUT IN FENCING WHERE THEY SHOULD HAVE, IT'S NOW PUSHED IT INTO THIS AREA.

AND SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH CALTRANS AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO MAKE THIS A PRIORITY PROJECT.

UM, 'CAUSE THE FENCING WILL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE WITHOUT BEING RUDE, TWO DAYS BEFORE SCHOOL STARTS, KIDS ARE GONNA BE WALKING TO THE RANK OF SCHOOL.

I FOR ALL PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS, THINK ABOUT THAT.

I, I, I UNDERSTAND.

AND ACTUALLY I'M VERY SYMPATHETIC TO EVERYTHING YOU, YOU'VE SAID, GRAHAM, I'D, I'D LIKE TO SET UP SOME KIND OF A TASK FORCE ON FIGURE, FIGURING THIS PARTICULAR PROBLEM OUT.

IF WE HAVE TO MEET WITH ALL OUR ELECTED REP REPRESENTATIVES FROM SACRAMENTO, LET'S PUT ALL OUR RESOURCES INTO MAKING THIS, THIS ONE FIXED.

'CAUSE SHE'S RIGHT.

ONE, ONCE A, A CHILD IS HURT, ALL OF OUR REASONS FOR NOT HAVING THE JURISDICTION TO DO ANYTHING ARE GONNA MEAN NOTHING.

SO THANK YOU FOR BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION.

I MEAN, NOT THAT IT'S THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HEARD IT, BUT NO, THANK YOU.

I I APPRECIATE IT.

I THINK THE DOG POISONING PRETTY MUCH.

YEAH, I'M, I'M SORRY THAT YOUR DOG WAS HURT.

THAT'S TERRIBLE.

YEP.

MS. OSTER MEYER, UM, SANDY HOOD CONTACTED ME ABOUT THAT.

I DROVE BY THERE AND I'M, I I'VE BEEN BY THERE THREE OR FOUR TIMES TO LOOK AT THAT.

'CAUSE I KNOW WHERE YOUR STREET IS.

CAN YOU TELL ME IF I'M GOING DOWN FIRST, GOING NORTH ON FIRST AND I SEE A VILLA THERE AND I SEE THE OVERPASS THERE, WHERE, WHERE EXACTLY ARE WE TALKING? BECAUSE I'VE DRIVEN BY THERE AND I DIDN'T SEE ANYBODY.

BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS, AND AND IT DEPENDS UPON WHEN YOU GO TO SEE THEM TOO.

SO THERE'S THE OVERPASS AND THE OVERPASS HAS FENCE AREAS ON EITHER SIDE.

RIGHT? OKAY.

THIS SIDE AS WELL AS CROSSING FIRST STREET AND THAT SIDE.

MY AREA IS BASICALLY INHABITED WITH THE CRIMINAL THIEVES.

SOME OF THE CRAZIES.

YOU ALL HAVE CONNECTIONS, YOU ALL HAVE KIDS.

UM, AND SOME OF THE DRUG DEALERS.

BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE DRUG STUFF GOES ON.

BECAUSE THEY WILL TAKE, AND, I MEAN, I'M JUST BEING HONEST, THEY WILL TAKE AND THEY WILL MOVE WHATEVER THEY'RE DOING FROM ONE AREA.

THEY CROSS THE STREET AND THEN THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FREEWAY.

NOW I HAVE HEARD ON MY SIDE, OKAY, I'LL BE HONEST.

THEY'RE SAYING WHEN IS THE NEXT SHIPMENT COMING IN? I'M ASSUMING THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR AMAZON SHIPMENTS.

, OKAY.

RIGHT.

I MEAN, I'M, I'M NOT EVEN JOKING ON THAT ONE.

I, I SAY THAT WITH A LITTLE BIT OF SATIRE, BUT IT'S LIKE, AND WHEN YOU'RE DIGGING FOR FOUR HOURS LAST WEEK, WHAT ARE THEY DIGGING? WHAT ARE THEY DOING? WHAT ARE THEY PLANNING TO PUT BACK THERE? SO THAT IS JUST BIZARRE.

SO THEN I TALKED TO HIGHWAY PATROL AND I HAVE THEIR LIKE 24 HOUR NUMBER, BUT THEN THEY LIKE, THEY'RE SO OVERWHELMED.

IT'S LIKE EVERYBODY'S SO OVERWHELMED.

BUT THE THING IS, IF YOU WORK TOGETHER, YOU DON'T GET OVERWHELMED.

YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE YOU,

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I'M PLEADING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL KIDS, I AM SO WORRIED FOR THOSE KIDS.

AND IT'S GOTTEN SO MUCH WORSE THE PAST THREE MONTHS.

I MEAN, I SAW COMING HERE, I JUST SAW THEM OPEN UP THE GATE.

THEY, THEY HAVE THE GATE SO THAT THEY JUST LITERALLY OPEN UP THE STUFF AND I SAW 10 PEOPLE PLOW ALL THE WAY BACK THERE BEHIND MY HOUSE HERE.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

SO YOU'RE TO JUST CLARIFY AND, 'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA TAKE ANY MORE TIME, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE CLARIFICATION.

YOU'RE ON THE EAST SIDE OF, WELL, I'M ON THE ELO SIDE.

SO THERE'S ELO SIDE.

THERE'S ARANCO SIDE.

SO I'M ON THE ELO SIDE.

AND UM, AND THEN THE ARANCO SIDE, OF COURSE IS WHERE THE SCHOOL IS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.

THANKS VERY MUCH MA'AM.

WE'LL, YEAH, THANK YOU.

WE, WE HAVE YOUR, A WAY TO CONTACT YOU.

UH, YOU'VE SENT ME EMAILS BEFORE.

AND STEVE PRICE HAS DONE A STORY, YOU KNOW, CHANNEL EIGHT, UM, WORKING FOR YOU AND HE'S GONNA BE REALLY UPSET WHEN HE COMES OUT.

'CAUSE I THINK HE'S EXPECTING A MORE SECURE AREA WHEN SCHOOL STARTS AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SECURE.

UM, WAS THAT IT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? NO OTHER COMMENT, SIR.

UH, WE HAVE FIVE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

THERE ARE NO WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS ON PUBLIC HEARINGS AND NO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

COUNSEL, HOLD ON A SECOND.

[13. All-Way Stop Sign Request on Gina Avenue at Joliet Street RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council adopts the next Resolution, in order, to establish permanent all-way stop signs on Gina Avenue at the intersection of Joliet Street, in order to enhance pedestrian and traffic safety.]

ITEM 13 IS FOR AN ALLWAY STOP SIGN ON GINA AVENUE AND JOLIET STREET.

AND I'LL STAFF TO TELL US ABOUT THIS, ER, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS MARIO SANCHEZ, UH, CITY ENGINEER.

FIRST ITEM I HAVE UP IS AN ALWAYS STOP REQUEST AT THE INTERSECTION OF JOLIET AT STREET AT GINA AVENUE.

THIS IS A REQUEST FROM SEVERAL RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD TO INVESTIGATE THE NEED FOR AN ALWAYS STOP AT THIS UNCONTROLLED INTERSECTION DUE TO CONCERNS OF OVERALL SAFETY.

THIS IS THE FIRST PICTURE THAT I HAVE OF, OF THIS LOCATION.

THIS IS, UH, GINA AVENUE AT JOLIET STREET, AND IT'S A UNCONTROLLED INTERSECTION AND APPROXIMATELY 37 OR 3,800 VEHICLES PER DAY TRAVEL THROUGH THIS INTERSECTION AND INTERSECTION OF, UH, OR GINA THAT HANDLES ABOUT 2,700 VEHICLES PER DAY.

ANOTHER, UH, PICTURE VIEWING SOUTH AT THIS INTERSECTION AND THEN VIEWING EAST AT THE INTERSECTION.

THAT'S JOLIET STREET, WHICH CARRIES ABOUT, UH, 1100 VEHICLES PER DAY.

SO WE CONDUCTED A TRAFFIC STUDY AND, UM, WE, UH, LOOKED AT THE ACCIDENT RECORDS AND SO FORTH.

FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS, THERE HAVE BEEN ZERO ACCIDENTS AT THIS LOCATION.

THE CORNER SITE DISTANCE IS ADEQUATE, BUT AT SOMETIMES OF THE DAY WHEN THERE'S CARS PARKED NEAR THE INTERSECTION, IT'S LIMITED SOMEWHAT.

SO WHEN WE PERFORMED THE STUDY, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, UM, WE FOLLOW THE, THE CALIFORNIA MANUAL ON UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES, AND WE USE A POINT SYSTEM DEVELOP SEVERAL YEARS AGO BY THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO.

SO, UH, WE LOOK AT ABOUT FIVE FACTORS THAT WE TAKE IN CONSIDERATION, ACCIDENT HISTORY, SPECIAL CONDITIONS LIKE LIMITED SITE DISTANCE OR HIGH PEDESTRIAN VOLUMES, AND TRAFFIC VOLUMES AS WELL.

UM, THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION DID NOT MEET THE REQUIRED WARRANTS, BUT HAVING NO REGULATORY CONTROL AT THIS INTERSECTION CAUSES MOTORS, CONFUSION OF WHO HAD THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THE LIMITED SITE DISTANCE AT VARIOUS TIMES A DAY.

SO THEREFORE, WE'RE RECOMMENDING TO PUT IN ALLWAY STOPS AT THIS UNCONTROLLED LOCATION.

SO STAFFERS RECOMMENDING THAT THE COUNCIL ADOPTS THE NEXT RESOLUTION, APPROVING THE INSTALLATION OF THE PERMIT.

IT ALWAYS STOPS ON GINA AVENUE AT THE INTERSECTION OF JOLIET STREET IN ORDER TO ENHANCE PEDESTRIAN AND TRAFFIC SAFETY.

WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS, STEVE.

HEY MARIO.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

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UM, WERE ANY SPEED SURVEYS DONE? YEAH, WE DID SPEED SURVEYS ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.

AND ON JO, LET ME GO BACK TO THIS.

ON JOLIET STREET, WE DID A, A TRAFFIC COUNT, I THINK ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.

AND THE 85TH PERCENTILE WAS ABOUT 27 MILES PER HOUR.

AND THEN ON GINA STREET OR GINA AVENUE, UH, THE EIGHT, UH, THE 85TH PERCENTILE WAS 28 MILES PER HOUR.

SO, OKAY.

AND SO WHY DID YOU RECOMMEND A FOUR-WAY STOP VERSUS, UH, I'LL CALL IT TWO-WAY STOP.

JUST, JUST TO ASSIGN THE RIGHT OF WAY AS AS TRAFFIC ENTERS THE INTERSECTION.

UM, THE, THE VOLUMES ARE PRETTY CLOSE.

SO IF THEIR VOLUMES ARE CLOSE TO WITHIN 50%, THEN I CAN RECOMMEND IT ALWAYS STOP AS, AS THE, AS THE, THE BEST CONDITION OR THE BEST SAFETY MEASURE TO ASSIGN THE RIGHT OF WAY.

AND, UH, I BELIEVE THESE STREETS ARE ALSO USED AS A CUT THROUGH.

YES.

CAN YOU DESCRIBE THAT? YES.

UH, SO GINA AVENUE IS USED AS A CUT THROUGH IN BETWEEN LEXINGTON AND MELODY.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP AS WELL AS THE ADJACENT STREET OF IVORY, BUT IVORY CARRIES FAR LESS, UH, TRAFFIC VOLUME.

AND PEOPLE ARE ON MAIN STREET TRYING TO AVOID THE, THE SECOND MAIN INTERSECTION.

SO THEY USE GINA OR JOLIET AS A CUT THROUGH TO GET DOWN TO HAW YEAH.

TO GET, YEAH.

TO, TO AVOID THE INTERSECTION AT MAIN AND HAMSHAW.

'CAUSE 3,800 CARS IS A LOT FOR A LITTLE SMALL RESIDENTIAL STREET.

ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM? NO SPEAKER CARDS, SIR.

UM, I BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNCIL.

YOU, YOU MOVE ADOPTION.

SEE THAT MARIO'S GONNA STAY WITH US FOR A DISCUSSION ABOUT ANOTHER ALL FOUR-WAY.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE AND I

[14. All-Way Stop Sign Request on Lexington Avenue at Claydelle Avenue RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council adopts the next Resolution, in order, to establish permanent all-way stop signs on Lexington Avenue at the intersection of Claydelle Avenue, in order to enhance pedestrian and traffic safety.]

STOP SIGN AT THE CORNER OF LEXINGTON AND CLAY DE MARIO.

ALRIGHT AGAIN, MARIO SANCHEZ, CITY ENGINEER.

THIS LOCATION WAS, UH, BROUGHT BY, CAME TO OUR ATTENTION BY A RESIDENT THROUGH OUR, MY CIVIC APP.

AND THIS LOCATION'S AT LEXINGTON AVENUE AND CLAY DE AVENUE.

SO IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH LEXINGTON, IT'S USED AS A HEAVY EAST WEST, UH, UH, CORRIDOR.

UM, IT'S JUST SOUTH OF MAIN STREET.

AND THEN CLAY DE IS A NORTH, NORTH, SOUTH, UH, UM, RESIDENTIAL COLLECTOR TYPE OF STREET.

UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME CONTEXT HERE, UM, THERE'S ROUGHLY, UH, 9,500 VEHICLES THAT TRAVEL THROUGH THIS INTERSECTION PER DAY.

AND, UH, ABOUT 5,900 VEHICLES PER DAY WERE RECORDED ON LEXINGTON AVENUE.

AND ANOTHER 3,600 VEHICLES ARE TRAVELING PER DAY ON CLAY DELL.

SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S A, UH, STOP SIGNS ON CLAY DE BUT NONE ON LEXINGTON.

SO AGAIN, WE DO, UH, WHEN WE PERFORM OUR STUDY, WE COLLECT, UH, TRAFFIC COUNT DATA, TAKE A LOOK AT, UH, INTERSECTION RECORDS AND SO FORTH.

AND, UH, WE DID A FIVE YEAR ACCIDENT HISTORY AT THIS LOCATION AND THAT THERE HAVE BEEN 12 ACCIDENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED AND THREE OF THESE ACCIDENTS RELATED WITH THE VEHICLE VERSUS A PEDESTRIAN.

SO WE ALSO MEASURED THE CORRIDOR SITE DISTANCE.

IT'S ADEQUATE FOR VEHICLES TO SAFETY AND CROSS THE INTERSECTION.

BUT, UM, UM, AGAIN, WHEN WE RAN OUR, OUR WARRANTS, UM, WE, AGAIN, WE USE THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO AND THE CALIFORNIA MANUAL ON UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES.

AND, UH, A MINIMUM OF 30 POINTS OUT OF 50 IS REQUIRED FOR AN INSTALLATION OF, WOULD ALWAYS STOP THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.

WE SCORED 59 POINTS, SO FIF, UH, NINE POINTS OVER THE MAXIMUM THRESHOLD OF THIS LOCATION.

SO WITH THAT, WE ARE RECOMMENDING AND ALWAYS STOP AT THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.

AND, UH, LEMME GO TO MY RECOMMENDATION THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTS THIS RESOLUTION APPROVING THE INSTALLATION OF PERMANENT ALWAYS STOPS ON LEXINGTON AVENUE AT THE INTERSECTION OF DALE AVENUE AND IN ORDER TO ENHANCE PEDESTRIAN AND TRAFFIC SAFETY.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO QUESTIONS.

THANKS MARIO.

ANY QUESTIONS? NO SPEAKER CARDS.

NO SPEAKER CARDS.

ALRIGHT, THEN BACK FOR CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE A MOTION MOVE ADOPTION.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS

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VOTE.

HELLO? SORRY, MR. MAYOR, DID WE WANNA DO ITEM 15? DID I SKIP IT? UH, YES.

THANKS, MARIO.

ITEM 16 IS A REPORT ON A FIRE ENGINE OUTFITTING STAFF WILL SHARE WITH US ABOUT THIS.

[15. Service Provider Program Update RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council receives the Service Provider Program Update and, if desired, provides feedback, recommendations, and direction on implementation of the program.]

HOW ABOUT, ITEM 15 IS A SERVICE PROVIDER UPDATE PROGRAM, AND YOU'LL TELL US ABOUT THAT.

THANKS, NOAH.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UH, AGAIN, UH, NOAH ALVY, UH, DEPUTY DIRECTOR FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

I'M HERE TODAY JUST TO PROVIDE A, UH, UPDATE ON OUR SERVICE PROVIDER PROGRAM.

UH, SO JUST AS A REMINDER, THIS PROGRAM WAS INITIATED BY THE CITY COUNCIL BACK IN APRIL OF 2023.

AND IT WAS REALLY IN ORDER TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE SECONDARY EFFECTS THAT WERE OCCURRING WITH HOUSING PLACEMENTS, UH, INSIDE OF LODGING ESTABLISHMENTS THAT THE, THE CITY WAS EXPERIENCING LAST YEAR.

SO THE SERVICE PROVIDER DEFINITION IS SHOWN HERE.

UH, REALLY IT JUST BOILS DOWN TO BEING PRIMARILY AGENCIES OR ORGANIZATIONS THAT PROVIDE, UH, SERVICES TO HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS, UH, OR PEOPLE THAT ARE AT RISK OF BEING HOMELESS.

UH, THE PROGRAM THAT WAS, UH, APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, DID REQUIRE SERVICE PROVIDERS TO OBTAIN A SPECIAL OPERATION LICENSE.

UH, SO IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT, IT ALSO REQUIRED, UH, MONTHLY REPORTING.

SO THE SERVICE PROVIDERS REQUIRED TO REPORT ON THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS SERVED THE LOCATION WHERE INDIVIDUALS WERE PREVIOUSLY HOMELESS, UH, THE NUMBER OF DISCHARGE PARTICIPANTS, AND THEN, UH, THE AVERAGE DAILY RATE PAID FOR THE HOUSING OF EACH PARTICIPANT.

SO AFTER, UH, UM, OVER THE LAST 11 MONTHS OR SO, UH, WE'VE HAD A TOTAL OF, UH, 10 SERVICE PROVIDERS THAT HAVE BECOME LICENSED.

UH, HERE WE SHOW THEIR APPROVAL DATES.

UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH EACH OF THOSE OVER THE LAST 11 MONTHS IN ORDER TO GET THROUGH, UH, LEGAL ISSUES AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE, UM, GETTING THEIR APPLICATIONS IN AND COMPLETE.

UM, I DID WANNA HIGHLIGHT, UH, NOT ALL OF THESE SERVICE PROVIDERS ARE ACTUALLY PLACING INDIVIDUALS WITHIN LODGING ESTABLISHMENTS.

UH, SOME ENTITIES LIKE DORS FOR CHANGE, UH, THEY JUST GO OUT AND PROVIDE, UM, SERVICES AND TRY AND CONNECT HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS WITH SERVICES SO THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY PUTTING PEOPLE INTO LODGING ESTABLISHMENTS.

SO, UH, THERE WERE FIVE PRIMARY LODGING ESTABLISHMENTS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OVER THE LAST YEAR.

UM, THESE FIVE LODGING ESTABLISHMENTS WERE THE ONES THAT HAD HIGH LEVELS OF CALLS FOR SERVICE.

UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, EITHER THROUGH UPDATING THEIR CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS OR LOOKING AT, UH, NEW OPERATION STANDARDS.

UH, WE'VE HAD, UH, UH, A GROUP OF CITY STAFF THAT HAVE MET WITH, UH, THE INDIVIDUAL LODGING ESTABLISHMENTS IN ORDER TO, UH, LOOK AT THEIR OPERATIONS, LOOK AT SECURITY MEASURES THEY COULD PUT IN LIKE FENCES OR IMPROVING LANDSCAPING OR JUST OTHER MEASURES IN ORDER TO REALLY IMPROVE THE OPERATION AND REDUCE THOSE CALLS FOR SERVICE.

SO WE LOOKED AT OVER THE LAST, UH, YEAR OR SO, UH, THE PERCENTAGE AND REDUCTION IN CALLS FOR SERVICE, UM, JUST BECAUSE OF WHEN EACH CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

UM, WE, WE LOOKED AT THE INITIAL CALLS FOR SERVICE AND THEN THE REDUCTION OVER THE LAST YEAR.

SO YOU CAN SEE HERE WE'VE REALLY SEEN EVERYWHERE FROM A 25 TO A 59% REDUCTION IN CALLS FOR SERVICE.

SO I THINK OVERALL, WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL.

IT'S REALLY HELPED US TO BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW THESE LODGING ESTABLISHMENTS ARE OPERATING.

AND REALLY HELPFUL IN ALLOWING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO WORK WITH THOSE, UH, LOING ESTABLISHMENTS AS WELL AS THE SERVICE PROVIDERS GIVING US, UH, ADDITIONAL DATA.

SO REALLY, UH, OVER THE LAST 11 MONTHS, THAT'S KIND OF THE HIGHLIGHTS OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE.

UM, FOR THIS ITEM, UH, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ACTION FROM COUNCIL, BUT JUST SEEKING FEEDBACK ON THE PROGRAM OR ANY THOUGHTS OR CONCERNS THAT COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE.

SO THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, NOAH.

APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, QUESTIONS MOST OF THE COUNCIL, STEVE.

THANK YOU NOAH.

AGAIN, LOVE THE FULL AND CONCISE, UH, SUMMARY.

UH, THE PERCENT REDUCTION, IF WE CAN GO BACK ONE SLIDE, I THINK IT WAS, UH, ARE THEY AND IS CALLS FOR SERVICE, POLICE AND FIRE? YES.

WHAT WE DID WAS WE DID AGGREGATE CALLS FOR SERVICE.

UM, SO WE WANTED TO LOOK JUST AT THE ENTIRETY OF ALL THE CALLS THAT WERE COMING IN FOR THAT SPECIFIC LOCATION.

WHEN WE'VE HAD ITEMS COME TO, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE'VE KIND OF, UH, DONE A DEEPER DIVE.

BUT FOR THIS ANALYSIS, WE JUST LOOK AT

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THE AGGREGATE CALLS.

SURE, OKAY.

AND I COULD SEE SOMETIMES, UH, LODGING ESTABLISHMENT SAYING, I'M JUST NOT GONNA CALL ANYMORE EVEN THOUGH I'VE GOT PROBLEMS BECAUSE I'M GONNA GET DINGED IF I CALL.

AND THAT COULD BE A REASON WHY THEY'RE DOWN OR THEY DON'T HAVE AS MANY RESIDENTS AT THEIR PLACE.

AND SO THE ODDS OF GETTING A CALL ARE DOWN.

UH, OR THERE ARE OTHER THINGS.

DO YOU HAVE A REASON WHY THESE ARE RE REDUCING? I MEAN, I WOULD SAY PRIMARILY IT'S THE EFFORT THAT STAFF HAVE PUT INTO HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE OPERATORS.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING, DOING THOSE DEEP DIVES INTO THE CALLS, WHEN WE WENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT 2:00 AM CALL.

MAYBE WE'RE THE MANAGER FOR THE LODGING ESTABLISHMENT, UH, DOESN'T WANNA GET UP AND GO OUTSIDE TO ADDRESS, UH, AN ARGUMENT THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE PARKING LOT.

SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT, UH, NECESSARILY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DON'T NEED TO RESPOND TO.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT A MANAGER ON SITE CAN HANDLE.

SO I I, HOPEFULLY THAT'S BEEN, UH, PART OF THE CALL OR PART OF THE CAUSE FOR THE REDUCTION IN CALLS FOR SERVICE.

UH, BUT WE'VE ALSO WORKED WITH THEM ON THEIR OPERATIONS MANUAL DATA COLLECTION AND INCREASED, UM, YOU KNOW, CONNECTIONS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND BY THE WAY, ARE THESE REDUCTIONS IN 9 1 1 CALLS OR NON-EMERGENCY LINE CALLS? IT WAS JUST THE AGGREGATE CALLS FOR SERVICE TO BOTH FIRE AND POLICE.

BUT TO THE 9 1 1 SYSTEM OR TO THE 5 7 9 33 11 NON-EMERGENCY LINE, I WOULD ASSUME IT WOULD BE BOTH.

I HAVE TO ALL TO DEFER TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UH, I THINK THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, MR. GOBEL.

I THINK PART OF IT ALSO IS, BESIDES THE STAFF'S EFFORT AND THE OPERATORS HAVING A BETTER MANAGEMENT PLAN, WE THINK THERE'S ALSO JUST LESS INDIVIDUALS BEING HOUSED BY THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO IN EL CAJON.

SO WE GET A, A REPORT ON JUST ONE OF THE HOUSING PROGRAMS THAT THE COUNTY OPERATES.

UH, SO WE GET A WEEKLY UPDATE ON HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE BEING HOUSED.

AND ABOUT A YEAR AGO AT THIS TIME, THERE WAS 131 INDIVIDUALS BEING HOUSED.

AS OF THIS WEEK THERE'S 89, SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A 24% REDUCTION IN, UM, ACTIVITY.

SO I THINK THAT ALSO PROBABLY HAS SOME, SOME TO DO WITH THE CALLS AS WELL.

I, I THINK THEY'RE GREAT STATISTICS TO HAVE.

IT'S GOOD TO KNOW WHY THEY'RE REDUCING.

I THINK STAFF HAS DONE A GREAT JOB IN MANAGING THIS.

THIS IS ONLY BETTER FOR THE PUBLIC THAT YOU HAVE FEWER CALLS FOR SERVICE AND IT'S BETTER FOR OUR, OUR EMERGENCY RESPONDERS 'CAUSE THEY TRULY HAVE AVAILABILITY TO DEAL WITH, UH, MORE URGENT SITUATIONS PERHAPS.

SO IT, IT'S A GREAT OUTCOME.

RIGHT.

ALONG WITH WHAT STEVE SAY, IS THERE A INDEPENDENT VARIABLE SUCH AS, I DUNNO, FELONY ARRESTS OR, UH, ASSAULTS THAT CAN BE MEASURED, UH, THIS YEAR VERSUS LAST YEAR VERSUS THE YEAR BEFORE TO GET A SENSE OF HOW MUCH, UH, SERIOUS CRIME HAS REDUCED? WE DIDN'T LOOK AT THAT.

UH, FOR THIS ANALYSIS.

WE'RE JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT THE HIGHER LEVEL AGGREGATE DATA.

BUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNSEL WOULD BE MORE INTERESTED IN, WE CAN DEFINITELY REPORT BACK.

I I WOULD BE INTERESTED BECAUSE I, I I, EVEN THOUGH THE STATISTICS LOOK GOOD, UM, THEY COULD MEAN I, I THINK THE MOST LOGICAL ONE IS THAT THEY'VE ALL GOTTEN TOGETHER AND SAID, WHEN WE CALL THE POLICE, WE GET IN TROUBLE.

AND SO LET'S NOT DO THAT.

BUT YOU COULDN'T, YOU KNOW, IF SAY FOR EXAMPLE, FELONY ASSAULTS, THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN REGARDLESS OF WHO CALLS OR WHO DOESN'T CALL CALL.

SO, NOT THAT I'M THAT WORRIED ABOUT IT, BUT I'M JUST, I THINK IT'D BE, IT WOULD SATISFY MY, MY CURIOSITY.

BUT I, I GUESS I DO HAVE A QUESTION ANECDOTALLY, FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, DOES IT SEEM LIKE THESE OPERATORS ARE TAKING MORE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR PROPERTY, WHEREAS IN THE PAST THIS ALL CAME TO FRUITION BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING CALLS AND PUBLIC COMMENT FROM THE PUBLIC SAYING, I LIVE NEXT DOOR ACROSS THE STREET, MY KIDS ARE WALKING TO SCHOOL AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, FIGHTS AND DRUG DEALS AND ALL THIS STUFF.

AND SO IF ANECDOTALLY, DOES IT SEEM LIKE THE OPERATORS ARE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR PROPERTIES? UM, I WOULD SAY AT A HIGH LEVEL, YES.

UM, UH, ONE GOOD EXAMPLE, UH, WOULD PROBABLY BE THE RELAX IN ON WEST MAIN STREET.

UH, SO THAT WAS A LOCATION WHERE WE WENT OUT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, OTHER DEPARTMENTS, AND, UH, MET WITH, UH, THE OPERATOR ON SITE.

UM, WE GAVE THEM SOME SUGGESTIONS ABOUT, UH, LIKE PUTTING UP A, UH, FENCE BACK IN THE BACK CORNER BY THE POOL SO THAT PEOPLE COULDN'T EXIT OUT INTO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, ADJACENT THERE.

UM, HE TOOK A LOT OF THE SUGGESTIONS TO HEART.

HE, UH, MADE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROPERTY AND FIXED UP THE LANDSCAPING WITHOUT US HAVING TO GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THE MAYOR'S QUESTION AS WELL.

SO I LOOK AT THAT AS KIND OF A, A SUCCESS STORY WHERE WE ARE ABLE TO WORK WITH SOMEONE, UM, AND HELP THEM PROACTIVELY KIND OF RESOLVE SOME OF THEIR PROBLEMS. GOOD.

YEAH, THAT, THAT THIS IS, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S POSITIVE EVIDENCE AND I'D BE CURIOUS

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BUT YEAH, IT SEEMS LIKE A GREAT PROGRAM THAT WE'VE IMPLEMENTED TO ADDRESS THE CRIME AND MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF CALLS FOR SERVICE TO POLICE AND FIRE AT THESE, AT THESE ESTABLISHMENTS THAT WERE JUST REALLY A, A PUBLIC NUISANCE.

UM, SO GREAT JOB.

THANK YOU FOR PUTTING IN THE EXTRA EFFORT.

ANY, UH, UH, CARDS ON THIS NO CARD, SIR.

BRING IT BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

I THINK THE, UH, THE PROGRAM AS IT IS NOW IS OPERATING WITH THE INTENDED OUTCOMES THAT I WANTED TO SEE IS THESE, THESE OWNERS TAKING MORE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ACTIVITY AND, AND THE RESIDENTS ON THEIR PROPERTY AND NOT HAVING SUCH A DETRIMENTAL EFFECT TO THE BUSINESSES AROUND IT, THE HOMES AROUND IT, THE COMMUNITY AROUND IT.

SO I DON'T HAVE ANY, UM, DESIRED CHANGES TO BE MADE TO THE PROGRAM.

DO YOU NEED, DO YOU NEED A VOTE OR JUST A DIRECTION? JUST DIRECTION.

JUST WANTED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND WE'LL GET YOU SOME DATA ABOUT THE VIOLENT CRIME AS WELL.

SO WE'LL GET THAT TO YOU SEPARATELY.

GARY.

OH, I AGREE WITH YOU MR. MAYOR.

I'D LIKE TO SEE THE MORE DATA ON THE VIOLENT CRIME, IT GIVES US A BETTER PICTURE.

OKAY,

[16. Funding and Purchase of Pierce Type I Fire Engine Outfitting RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council adopts the next Resolution, in order, to re-appropriate $25,000 of the Wildfire Early Action Program 2021 grant (WEAP21) from the Wildfire and Forest Resilience Program project (233794PWCP-GEN PRJCT) to the Wildfire Early Action Program 2021 Fire Hazard Mitigation Equipment (WEAP21.TASK7) budget.]

LET'S MOVE ON.

ITEM 16 IS A REPORT ON A FIRE ENGINE OUTFITTING AND STAFF WILL TELL US ABOUT THIS.

HI.

GOOD AFTERNOON, HONOR ROLL MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBERS YAMANO, DIRECTOR OF ENGINEERING SERVICES.

ON NOVEMBER OF 21 AND APRIL OF 22, THE CITY RECEIVED FUNDING FROM THE SAN DIEGO RIVER CONSERVANCY, UH, WILDFIRE EARLY ACTION PROGRAM IN THE AMOUNT OF 3 MILLION $125,000.

TASK SEVEN OF THIS GRANT IS TO PURCHASE FIRE HAZARD MITIGATION EQUIPMENT.

ON APRIL OF 2022, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE PURCHASE OF A TYPE ONE FIRE ENGINE OUTFITTED WITH WILDLAND URBAN INTERFACE OPERATIONS FOR $770,000.

THIS FIRE ENGINE WAS INSPECTED BY STAFF LAST JUNE AND APPROXIMATELY $30,000 WAS RECOMMENDED FOR CHANGES AND FOR OUT FEEDING ACCESSORIES.

5,000 REMAINED IN THE EQUIPMENT TASK AND AFTER CAREFUL EVALUATION, APPROVAL AND APPROVAL BY OUR GRANT TOUR STAFF RECOMMENDS COUNSEL'S APPROVAL TO TRANSFER $25,000 FROM TASK THREE TO TASK SEVEN AND TO TO PURCHASE THE FIRE, UM, MITIGATION EQUIPMENT.

AND OUR FIRE CHIEF, UH, BENCO IS HERE TO, UM, IF ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE OUTFITTING EQUIPMENT OR CHANGES, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE GROUND.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF OR NO? THANKS.

APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, LUCY, IF THERE'S ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM? NONE, SIR.

THEN, UH, BACK TO COUNSEL, MOVE ADOPTION SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

THE LAST ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT, ITEM 17 IS A REPORT ON PROPOSITION 36, AND OUR CITY MANAGER, GRAHAM MITCHELL, WILL TELL US ABOUT THIS.

[17. Resolution in Support of Proposition 36 ("The Homeless, Drug Addiction, and Theft Reduction Act") RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council adopts the next Resolution (attached), in order, supporting Proposition 36 ("The Homeless, Drug Addiction, and Theft Reduction Act").]

MR. MAYOR, I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND TAKE THIS REPORT.

UM, THANK YOU JUDGE PROP PRO.

PROP 47, AS YOU KNOW, WAS APPROVED IN, UM, 2014.

AND I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT THE IMPACTS OF PROPOSITION 47 HAVE BEEN AN UN UNMITIGATED DISASTER, UH, FOR CITIES ACROSS CALIFORNIA WITH AN EXPLOSION IN HOMELESSNESS, RAMPANT RE RETAIL THEFT, AND SEEING THE DEVASTATING EFFECTS OF FENTANYL.

DESPITE THIS, THE GOVERN, NEITHER, NEITHER THE GOVERNOR NOR THE LEGISLATIVE MAJORITY HAS THE SLIGHTEST INTEREST IN AMENDING PROP 47 TO, TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.

HOWEVER, AN EFFORT WAS UNDERWAY EARLIER THIS YEAR FROM DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ACROSS THE STATE, INCLUDING OUR OWN, UH, SUMMER STEPHAN, ALONG WITH A GROUP CALLED CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFER COMMUNITIES, AND THEY GATHERED ENOUGH SIGNATURES TO PUT PROP 36 ON THE BALLOT.

PROP 36 WILL RESTORE FELONY THEFT, UH, CHARGES UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES ALONG WITH PROVIDING MENTAL HEALTH AND ADDICTION TREATMENT, UH, AGAIN, UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, AMONG OTHER THINGS THAT THE PROPOSITION DOES.

YOU'LL RECALL THAT IN PAST LEGISLATIVE REPORTS, UM, I MADE YOU AWARE OF 12 BILLS THAT WERE BEING SPONSORED BY THE GOVERNOR AND THE LEGISLATIVE MAJORITY, UH, 10

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OF WHICH HAVE BEEN APPROVED IN THE PAST COUPLE OF DAYS, JUST THE LAST FEW DAYS, 10 OF THE 12 HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND ARE ON THE GOVERNOR'S DESK AND WILL LIKELY BE SIGNED.

NONE OF THOSE DO ANYTHING TO PROP 47.

THE PURPOSE OF, UH, THOSE BILLS IS NO DOUBT TO LEAD SOME SORT OF DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN AS WE ENTER THE FINAL STRETCH OF THE ELECTION SEASON TO DISSUADE THE PUBLIC FROM, UH, UH, VOTING IN FAVOR OF PROP 36.

UH, WHAT'S BEFORE YOU NOW IS A RESOLUTION, UM, THAT IS IN SUPPORT OF PROP 36 AND STAFF, UM, IS RECOMMENDING YOUR, UM, SUPPORT OF THAT.

AND I'M BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

THANKS, VINCE.

QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS.

JUST A COMMENT.

WHEN'S APPROPRIATE? GO AHEAD.

WELL, I, I AM, I HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY OUTSPOKEN ON THE NEED TO, UH, REPEAL OR REFORM PROP 47, I THINK IN OUR OWN TOWN HALL MEETINGS WITH REGARD TO HOMELESSNESS THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR.

WE SHOWED THE CORRELATION OF THE PASSAGE OF PROP 47 AND 57, ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO, AND SUBSEQUENTLY THE HOMELESS POPULATION IN CALIFORNIA SKYROCKETING, UM, PROP 47.

THE REFORM OF THIS THROUGH PROP 36 IS GONNA HAVE REAL CONSEQUENCES FOR REPEAT CRIMINALS, NOT ONLY WITH REGARD TO DRUG OFFENSES, UM, BUT UH, THEFT AND ORGANIZED THEFT.

I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY DOZENS OF BUSINESSES WE LOST IN EL CAJON, WHETHER THEM JUST SHUTTING DOWN OR MOVING OUT OF THE STATE.

UM, HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS IN CALIFORNIA HAVE, UM, CLOSED OR SHUTTERED.

UM, WE JUST TODAY OUR RESIDENT HERE, SHE'S SO FRUSTRATED WITH THE HOMELESS POPULATION, THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT OF IT, UM, TAKING OVER OUR NEIGHBORHOODS INTIMIDATING AND, AND, UH, OUR RESIDENTS ON OUR STREETS AND PARKS, OPEN AIR DRUG USE.

AND I'VE, I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF IT.

I'VE SPENT MORE TIME GATHERING SIGNATURES FOR PROP 36 THAN MY WIFE AND KIDS WOULD'VE LIKED.

BUT THIS IS THE REAL WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE BECAUSE THE STATE FAILS TO TAKE ACTION, UM, TO HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS.

AND I'M, UH, SO I AM, UM, ALL ON BOARD TO TO, TO DRAFT, TO SUPPORT THIS AND, AND VOTE YES ON THIS RESOLUTION.

I KNOW THE MAYOR HAS, UM, SPOKEN IN SUPPORT OF REPEALING PROP 47 AND I HOPE, UM, THE REST OF MY COLLEAGUES WOULD AS WELL.

THIS IS A CASE OF OUR CITIZENS RISING UP TO FIX SOMETHING THAT THE LEGISLATURE REFUSES TO FIX.

EVERYBODY'S TIRED OF THIS EXCEPT FOR A LOT OF OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES.

SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.

I COMMEND STAFF OF BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS LAST WEEK.

YOU READ MY MIND.

UH, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS TO US AND I'M GONNA SUPPORT IT.

ALRIGHT, ANYBODY ELSE? THANKS VERY MUCH.

UM, ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM? WE DO NOT, SIR.

ALRIGHT, SO WE'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION MOVE ADOPTION.

ITEM 18 IS MY ACTIVITIES, WHICH IS AS REPORTED

THERE ARE NO COMMISSION REPORTS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

[18. Council Activity Report]

[19. COUNCILMEMBER STEVE GOBLE MTS (Metropolitan Transit System Board); East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority Board; Chamber of Commerce – Government Affairs Committee; SANDAG – Board of Directors – Alternate; SANDAG Public Safety Committee – Alternate.]

NOW WE'RE AT THE ACTIVITIES OF COUNCIL MEMBERS.

COUNCIL MEMBER GOBEL, UH, AS REPORTED WITH A SMALL COMMENT ON AN MTS UH, POSITION.

WE HAD A BUDGET MEETING LAST WEEK.

MTS IS UNDER THE SAME MANDATE.

A LOT OF PUBLIC AGENCIES ARE TO PURCHASE, UH, 25% OF ANY NEW VEHICLE BE A ZERO EMISSION VEHICLE.

AND SO, UH, ANY NEW BUSES THAT ARE PURCHASED ARE 25% HAVE TO BE ELECTRIC IN THIS CASE.

THE PROBLEM IS THE ELECTRIC BUSES ONLY GO 150 MILES AND MANY OF THE MTS ROUTES ARE LONGER THAN 150 MILES WITH THE GREATEST BEING 450.

SO THERE THE MANDATE IS WE HAVE TO BUY A ZERO EMISSION BUS.

IT ONLY GOES 150 MILES, BUT IT DOESN'T MEET THE 400 ROUTE.

BUT THE LEGISLATION SAYS IT'S A ONE FOR ONE SWAP, SO YOU'RE NOT FORCED TO BUY TWO BUSES JUST TO FILL THE ONE ROUTE.

SO THIS IS THE DILEMMA THAT, UH, IS HAPPENING WITH TRANSIT AGENCIES UP AND DOWN THE STATE AT.

ONE OF THE THINGS I'M PLEASED TO SEE IS THAT HYDROGEN BUSES ARE BEING CONSIDERED AND USED BY AGENCIES UP AND DOWN THE STATE AS WELL.

UH, HYDROGEN IS MUCH BETTER THAN ZERO EMISSION AND THEIR RANGE IS ABOUT 90% OF THAT, OF THIS COMPRESSED NATURAL GAS.

THE ONLY PROBLEM IS BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMIES OF SCALE, THEY'RE MORE EXPENSIVE THAN ELECTRIC BUSES AT THIS

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POINT.

BUT IT IS NICE TO SEE AT LEAST ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE, UH, TO ELECTRIC BECAUSE OUR FRIENDS AT SDG E HAVE TOLD US THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO PROVIDE ALL THE ELECTRICITY NEEDED FOR SOCIETY'S DEMANDS FOR FULL ELECTRIFICATION IN THE COMING YEARS.

SO IT MIGHT BE A NICE, UH, ZERO EMISSION ALTERNATIVE, THIS HYDROGEN.

SO MTS IS MOVING ALONG WITH ITS MANDATE FROM THE STATE, ALSO FROM ITS GOALS FOR CLEAN ENERGY, BUT UH, WITH SOME FLEXIBILITY, UH, WHICH IS GOOD FOR THE, THE PUBLIC AS WELL.

THAT CONCLUDES MY COMMENT.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER KENDRICK AS

[20. COUNCILMEMBER GARY KENDRICK METRO Commission/Wastewater JPA; Heartland Communications; Heartland Fire Training JPA.]

[21. COUNCILMEMBER MICHELLE METSCHEL Harry Griffen Park Joint Steering Committee; METRO Commission/Wastewater JPA – Alternate; Heartland Communications – Alternate; Heartland Fire Training JPA – Alternate.]

REPORTED COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL AS REPORTED WITH ONE, UH, ADDITION, I ATTENDED THE EAST COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL SUBBING FOR MY COLLEAGUE.

[22. DEPUTY MAYOR PHIL ORTIZ League of California Cities, San Diego Division; East County Economic Development Council; MTS (Metropolitan Transit System Board) – Alternate; East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority Board – Alternate; Chamber of Commerce – Government Affairs Committee – Alternate.]

ALL RIGHT, DEPUTY MAYOR ORTIZ, UH, AS REPORTED EXCEPT FOR ONE CHANGE, I DID NOT ATTEND THAT MEETING THAT MICHELLE WENT TO .

AND THAT BRINGS US TO CLOSED SESSION.

UM, THERE ARE NO JOINT COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS.

SO GENERAL INFORMATION ITEMS, NO FIRST OR SECOND READINGS OF ORDINANCES ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

[23. CLOSED SESSIONS:]

OUR CITY ATTORNEY WILL RECITE THE TITLE AND LEAD US INTO THE CLOSED SESSION.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

THE CITY COUNCIL IS GOING TO MEET IN, UH, CLOSED SESSION ON ONE ITEM.

IT'S A CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATORS PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 5 6 0.8.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 4 25 WEST MAIN STREET AND THE NEGOTIATING PARTY IS JALA INC.

AND HITESH C PATEL AS THE CEO, THE CITY'S NEGOTIATORS OF THE CITY MANAGER'S, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, AND CITY ATTORNEY.

UNDER NEGOTIATION WOULD BE PRICE IN TERMS OF PAYMENT FOR ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTY.

ALRIGHT, I'D MAKE A MOTION THEN TO ADJOURN THE CLOSED SESSION.