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[ CALL TO ORDER]
ORDER.YOU WANT, YOU WANNA STAND FOR THE NATIONAL ANTHEM, PLEASE.
OR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I'M NOT GONNA SING TODAY.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
COMMISSIONER, SOLE PRESENT, COMMISSIONER EDISON PRESENT AND COMMISSIONER MOROSE.
PRESENT, ALL COMMISSIONERS PRESENT.
[CHAIRPERSON’S WELCOME]
EVERYBODY TO THE EL CAJON PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.THIS MEETING IS BEING LIVE STREAMED ON THE CITY OF EL CAJONS WEBSITE APPEALS OR FINAL OF FINAL DECISIONS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MADE THIS EVENING MUST BE FILED IN WRITING WITH THE CITY CLERK BEFORE 5:00 PM FRIDAY, JULY 26TH, AND MUST TO INCLUDE A PAYMENT OF A FILING FEE.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON EITHER AN AGENDA ITEM OR NON AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT, PLEASE FILL OUT THE REQUEST TO SPEAK FORM THAT IS LOCATED BY THE AGENDA AND TURN IT INTO THE SECRETARY WHO WILL CALL YOU UP TO SPEAK.
WHEN THE AGENDA ITEM COMES UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, WE ASK THAT YOU GIVE YOUR NAME, THIS AND THE SPELLING OF YOUR LAST NAME PLEASE.
SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.
THE DISPLAY AND THE PODIUM, AS WELL AS THE OTHER MONITORS IN THE CHAMBERS WILL SHOW TIME COUNTING DOWN AT 30 SECONDS.
THE PODIUM CLOCK WILL READ OUT, WILL TURN RED, SIGNIFYING THAT YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS UNTIL THE END OF YOUR TIME.
APPLICANTS AND INDIVIDUALS REPRESENTING GROUPS OF PEOPLE MAY BE ALLOWED MORE TIME IF APPROPRIATE.
ALL PUBLIC HEARING COMMENTS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO ME AS THE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION AND NOT TO IN INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS OR TO STAFF MEMBERS.
PLEASE TURN OFF ALL YOUR ELECTRONIC DEVICES IF YOU'VE NOT ALREADY DONE SO.
PURSUANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION 1 1 4 DASH SEVEN NINE A COMMISSIONER WHO HAS RECEIVED EVIDENCE OF A RELATED MATTER BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, OTHER THAN AN UN UNESCORTED VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE SUCH INFORMATION AT THIS HEARING AT THIS TIME WILL TAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ON ANY ITEMS OF BUSINESS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE COMMISSION.
THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA UNDER STATE LAW.
NO ACTION CAN BE TAKEN ON ITEMS BROUGHT FORWARD UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT EXCEPT TO REFER THEM TO STAFF FOR ADMINIS EXCEPT TO REFER TO STAFF FOR ADMINISTRATION OR PLACE ON FU A FUTURE AGENDA.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT? PLEASE COME FORWARD.
[CONSENT]
WE'RE ONTO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.A SINGLE MOTION WILL COVER ALL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
DOES THE COMMISSION WISH TO PULL CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION? NO.
THE STAFF WISH TO PULL ANYTHING.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
AND YOU GUYS ALWAYS SHOW ME THIS, BUT IT NEVER WORKS FOR ME.
BUT THIS IS, THIS IS THE OLD ONE.
UM, CLEARLY NEEDED TO GO TO STARBUCKS BEFORE I CAME HERE TODAY.
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FIRST UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS IS THE MEDICAL WASTE TREATMENT FACILITY.UH, IT IS CQA EXEMPT AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE STAFF F.
THANK YOU HONORABLE COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS SABLE BELTRAN AND I'M AN ASSISTANT PLANNER WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL
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USE PERMIT FOR A MEDICAL WASTE TREATMENT AND TRANSFER FACILITY AT 1850 GILLESPIE WAY AS SUBMITTED BY MEDICAL ENVIRONMENTAL TECHNOLOGIES LLC.THE SITE IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF GILLESPIE WAY, BUT THE BOUNDARY FOR THE SITE SHOWN IN WHITE.
THE ADJACENT USES INCLUDE INDUSTRIAL OFFICE USES TO THE NORTH AND EAST, A FOOD PROCESSING FACILITY TO THE SOUTH AND OPEN SPACE TO THE WEST.
THE SITE IS 2.8 ACRES IN SIZE AND INCLUDES AN APPROXIMATELY 20,800 SQUARE FOOT INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE BUILDING 54 PARKING STALLS AND LANDSCAPING TWO DRIVEWAYS PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE SITE FROM GILLESPIE WAY ALONG THE NORTH AND SOUTHEAST SIDES OF THE LOT.
HERE IS A PHOTO OF THE SITE CURRENTLY AS SEEN FROM THE NORTHERLY DRIVEWAY ON GILLESPIE WAY.
THE GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATION IS INDUSTRIAL PARK AND THE SITE HAS A CORRESPONDING ZONE OF M MANUFACTURING IN THE M ZONE.
A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED FOR A HAZARDOUS WASTE TREATMENT FACILITY.
THE SITE FALLS UNDER SPECIFIC PLAN OR SP NUMBER 4 0 3, WHICH IMPLEMENTS SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT AREA NUMBER SIX AND REQUIRES THAT STANDARD INDUSTRIAL OR WAREHOUSE USES BE DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE PARKING AT A RATIO OF ONE SPACE PER 600 SQUARE FEET OF GROSS FLOOR AREA.
THE SUBJECT SITE WAS DEVELOPED UNDER SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN PERMIT NUMBER 1312, WHICH AUTHORIZED AN INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE BUILDING THE SUPPORTING OFFICES AND 37 PARKING SPACES CONSISTENT WITH SP NUMBER 4 0 3.
THE SITE PLAN ALSO SHOWED CAPACITY FOR AN ADDITIONAL 35 PARKING SPACES IN THE CASE THAT AN OFFICE USE WERE TO LATER OCCUPY THE SITE.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN SAFETY ZONE SIX OF THE GILLESPIE FIELD AIRPORT LAND USE COMPATIBILITY PLAN, WHICH LISTS TREATMENT AND DISPOSAL FACILITIES AS A COMPATIBLE USE.
MEDICAL WASTE TREATMENT AND TRANSFER FACILITIES ARE FURTHER REGULATED BY THE MEDICAL WASTE MANAGEMENT ACT, WHICH IS CONTAINED IN THE CALIFORNIA HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE.
IT SETS REQUIREMENTS SUCH AS MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE TIMES FOR STORING UNTREATED MEDICAL WASTE AND EMERGENCY ACTION.
TRACKING FOR COMPLIANCE OPERATION OF A MEDICAL WASTE TREATMENT FACILITY REQUIRES A PERMIT FROM THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THE MEDICAL WASTE MANAGEMENT ACT.
THE APPLICANT CURRENTLY OPERATES A MEDICAL WASTE TREATMENT FACILITY AT 1483 FAYETTE STREET, APPROXIMATELY ONE HALF MILE AWAY FROM THE SUBJECT SITE.
THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO RELOCATE THE FACILITY TO 1850 GILLESPIE WAY AND UTILIZE THE EXISTING 20,800 SQUARE FOOT INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE BUILDING.
THE FACILITY WOULD DISPATCH VEHICLES TO LOCAL FACILITIES WHICH GENERATE MEDICAL WASTE SUCH AS HOSPITALS, DOCTORS, FACILITIES, OR VETERINARIANS.
MEDICAL WASTE IS COLLECTED AND TRANSPORTED TO THE TREATMENT FACILITY IN SEALED CONTAINERS.
THE WASTE IS THEN SORTED BY TYPE TO FOLLOW THE APPROPRIATE STORAGE AND STERILIZATION PROCEDURES.
BIOHAZARD AND SHARP'S WASTE ARE PLACED INTO STEEL CARTS AND ROLLED INTO A MACHINE CALLED AN AUTOCLAVE, WHICH USES HEATED AND PRESSURIZED STEAM TO STERILIZE CONTAMINATED MATERIALS.
AFTER TREATMENT, THE SOLID WASTE IS COMPACTED AND TRUCKED TO A LANDFILL FOR FINAL DISPOSAL.
AFTER UNLOADING THE CONTAINERS IN WHICH THE MEDICAL WASTE IS DELIVERED WOULD BE SANITIZED THROUGH A STAINLESS STEEL TUNNEL WASH SYSTEM.
THE FACILITY WILL ALSO ACCEPT MEDICAL WASTE FROM OTHER REGISTERED MEDICAL WASTE TRANSPORTERS.
HOWEVER, THEY MUST HAVE PRIOR ARRANGEMENTS WITH THE FACILITY TO DO SO AND THEY MUST REMAIN PERMITTED AND IN GOOD STANDING WITH STATE AGENCIES WHICH REGULATE THE TRANSPORTATION AND TREATMENT OF MEDICAL WASTE, THERE ARE 54 OFF STREET PARKING SPACES PROVIDED AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
THE ZONING CODE DOES NOT SPECIFY PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR A WASTE TREATMENT FACILITY.
HOWEVER, THE PROPOSED FACILITY WOULD OPERATE MORE LIKE A WAREHOUSE FACILITY AND THERE WOULD BE LITTLE, IF ANY PUBLIC CONTACT CUP NUMBER 2165, WHICH AUTHORIZED A MEDICAL WASTE TREATMENT FACILITY ON FIRE STREET WAS APPROVED WITH STAFF DETERMINING 33 SPACES TO BE SUFFICIENT FOR THE USE BASED ON THE APPLICANT'S DESCRIPTION, STAFF ESTIMATE THE EXISTING 54 SPACES TO BE MORE THAN SUFFICIENT FOR THE PROPOSED USE.
STAFF HAVE RECOMMENDED REQUIRING THE INSTALLATION OF A BIKE RACK AND MODIFICATIONS TO THE TRASH ENCLOSURE TO BRING THE SITE INTO COMPLIANCE WITH CURRENT ZONING CODE REGULATIONS PURSUANT TO CAJON MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION 17 500 0 6 OH PLANNING COMMISSION SOUGHT CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS IN ORDER TO MAKE A DETERMINATION.
THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH GENERAL PLAN AND SPECIFIC PLAN NUMBER 4 0 3 BECAUSE IT MAINTAINS A DIVERSE QUALITY INDUSTRIAL AREA NEAR GILLESPIE FIELD AND EXCEEDS THE MINIMUM REQUIRED PARKING RATIO OF ONE SPACE PER 600 SQUARE FEET.
THE EXISTING INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE
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BUILDING WAS DEVELOPED UNDER SDP NUMBER 1312, AND THE PROPOSED FACILITY WOULD SATISFY ALL OF THE APPLICABLE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF THE ZONING CODE WITH THE INSTALLATION OF A BIKE RACK AND A COMPLIANT TRASH ENCLOSURE.THE PROPOSED FACILITY WILL BE OPERATED IN A MANNER THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING AND PLANNED LAND USES IN THE VICINITY BECAUSE THE AREA SURROUNDING THE PROJECT SITE IS DEVELOPED WITH URBAN INDUSTRIAL USES AND THE PROPOSED USE WOULD BE CONDUCTED INSIDE THE EXISTING BUILDING.
FURTHER COMPATIBILITY WOULD BE INSURED BY THE PROJECT CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, AS WELL AS THE MONITORING AND TRACKING REQUIREMENTS OF THE OPERATIONAL PERMIT REQUIRED BY THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH.
THE PROPOSED USE WILL PROVIDE A VALUABLE SERVICE TO THE REGION FACILITATING THE PROPER TREATMENT AND DISPOSAL OF MEDICAL WASTE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
THE STAFF DETERMINED THAT THE PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM CQA ACCORDING TO SECTION 15 3 0 1 CLASS ONE OF THE CQA GUIDELINES, WHICH INCLUDES AN EXEMPTION FOR INTERIOR OR EXTERIOR ALTERATIONS AND INVOLVING THINGS SUCH AS INTERIOR PARTITIONS, PLUMBING, AND ELECTRICAL CONVEYANCES.
THE PROPOSED MEDICAL WASTE TREATMENT FACILITY WILL BE CONDUCTED WITHIN THE EXISTING BUILDING WITH ONLY INTERIOR ALTERATIONS PROPOSED PRIMARILY FOR THE INSTALLATION OF NEW EQUIPMENT STAFF.
THEREFORE RECOMMEND THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT THE RESOLUTIONS TO APPROVE THE CE QA EXEMPTION AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 20 24 0 0 0 5 SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT AND WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? WHAT WAS THE, UH, SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE OLD SITE? DO WE KNOW? UM, THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER, UH, WITH US, BUT THE APPLICANT MAY BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.
YEAH, I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF IT'S A BIG UPGRADE FOR THEM OR, OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS? WE DO.
THEY'RE AVAILABLE TO SPEAK IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS.
CAN WE OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME? WE HAVE VOTE ON THAT.
JUST CALL FOR SPEAKER AND SEE.
ROB TRABUCO, CAN YOU, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK? I'M SORRY.
I WAS TALKING THEM ABOUT SQUARE FOOTAGE OF OUR EXISTING, SO IT'S 16,000 SQUARE FEET IS EXISTING DISPLAY.
AND SO YOU'RE MOVING TO 22? I THINK IT WAS 20,000.
WELL, IT'S MOSTLY OFFICE SPACE TO BE HONEST.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS HOW BIG OF AN UPGRADE AND, AND WERE YOU LEASING THE OLD SPOT AS WELL? YES.
AND HOW LONG DID YOU OPERATE AT THAT SITE? UH, ALMOST FOUR YEARS.
I DIDN'T PULL OUT CARD DO I TO OH, DID DO ANOTHER CARD AFTER HE SPEAKS.
I JUST HAD A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
MY NAME'S ROB SHAZ WITH DIVERSIFIED PROPERTIES.
I THINK I AM PROBABLY THE ONLY PROPERTY OWNER OR AGENT WITHIN THE BOUNDARY THAT NEEDED TO GET A NOTICE.
SO I JUST HAD, UH, ONE QUESTION FOR STAFF AND MAYBE ONE FOR, FOR THE GUYS.
I DROVE BY THEIR EXISTING FACILITY.
IT LOOKS, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT FITS IN MM-HMM.
BUT I DID, UM, QUESTION, WHEN THE MATERIALS GO THROUGH THE AUTO PLATE AND IT PRODUCES STEAM, THEN THE STEAM GOES INTO THE AIR.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT HAPPENS, BUT WHAT'S THE CONSIDERATION OF THAT AND IS IT TESTED? AND THEN THE QUESTION FOR STAFF WOULD BE, UM, IN THE BUILDING NEXT DOOR, I HAVE A TENANT THAT IS A TRADE SCHOOL, SO THEY HAVE A CUP FOR ASSEMBLY USE.
I KNOW SOMETIMES USES CAN'T BE SO CLOSE TO SCHOOLS, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS UNDERSTOOD BEFORE WE GET WAY FAR INTO SOMETHING AND THEN AN ISSUE COMES UP LATER.
ONE QUICK QUESTION BEFORE YOU.
DO YOU, WHEN YOU SAY SCHOOL, WHAT, WHAT AGE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT HERE? IS YOU TALKING ABOUT A COLLEGE SCHOOL? NO, IT'S A TRADE SCHOOL.
MEDICAL, YOU KNOW, NURSE NURSING TRAINING.
AND SO ADULT, ADULT, ADULT EDUCATION? YES.
UM, SO THE SITE WAS EVALUATED FOR COMPLIANCE WITH ZONING CODE STANDARDS AS IT RELATES TO SMOKE ODORS, UH, DUST, ET CETERA.
UM, FROM STAFF'S EXPERIENCE OVER THE, OVER THE PAST DECADE PLUS, UM, THERE WAS NO ISSUES OF COMPATIBILITY, UM, WITH THE EXISTING FACILITY ON FI ON FAYETTE.
UM, SO, UM, STAFF FOUND, UH, THAT THE FACILITY, UM, COULD BE OPERATED IN COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE STANDARDS AND THAT THERE WERE NO ISSUES WITH COMPATIBILITY.
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USE PERMIT, IF THERE WERE TO BE AN ISSUE WITH ANY SMOKE ODORS OR DUST OR THE OPERATION OF THE FACILITY, UM, STAFF WOULD BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT, UM, ACTION THROUGH CODE COMPLIANCE ACTIVITIES IN ORDER TO BRING THE FACILITY IN INTO COMPLIANCE.AND IF THERE WERE, UM, ANY EXCESSIVE VIOLATIONS, UH, OBVIOUSLY WE COULD BRING IT BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION SO THAT THEY COULD LOOK AT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AGAIN.
AND THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY, UM, CONCERNS OR CHALLENGES FROM THE CURRENT SITE REGARDING HIS CONCERNS OF STEAM AND ODOR AND AIR POLLUTION? NO.
THERE HAVE BEEN NO, UH, CODE COMPLIANCE, UH, ISSUES OR COMPLAINTS WITH REGARDS TO THE EXISTING FACILITY.
AND THE OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? THERE ARE A COUPLE, BUT THEY DID INDICATE THEY DID NOT NEED TO SPEAK ONLY IF YOU HAD QUESTIONS FOR THEM.
WE'LL CLOSE, CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE, RIGHT? SEEMS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING WELL IN OUR, IS IT A FOR 12 YEARS? YEP.
IT'S A GOOD BUSINESS, GOOD BUSINESS PLAN, AND A GOOD UPGRADE.
SO IT'S REALLY CLOSE TO WHERE IT'S ALREADY OPERATING, SO I'M NOT REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT ANY DYNAMICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO IT'S ENCOURAGING PEOPLE YES.
YOU KNOW, I'M CURIOUS, WHY WOULD THEY NEED A BICYCLE RACK?
JUST IN CASE THEY WANT A BIKE TO WORK, THEY HAVE A PLACE TO PUT THEIR BIKE.
OKAY, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTIONS IN ORDER APPROVING THE PROPOSED CA EXEMPTION AND CP 2024 DASH 0 0 5 SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
AND MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
IF I COULD FIGURE OUT MY LOVELY COMPUTER, I'M ALWAYS, NAH, IT JUST GOES WAY.
I WILL MASTER THIS AT SOME POINT.
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NEXT, ON THE AGENDA'S AGENDA ITEM THREE, IT'S THE COONE VIEW LOT FIVE LOT TO SUBDIVISION, PROPOSED FIVE LOT RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION WITH ALTERNATIVE ACCESS IN THE RS 14 ZONE MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION.RECOMMENDED CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.
AND STAFF, WHAT DO YOU HAVE ON THIS? ALRIGHT, UH, GOOD EVENING PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.
I'M AN ASSOCIATE PLANNER IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.
UH, AND THE SECOND ITEM FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT IS THE COONE VIEW FIVE LOT, UH, SUBDIVISION SUBMITTED BY LENE SHAGAN.
UH, THE PROJECT INCLUDES, UH, A TENTATIVE SUBDIVISION MAP FOR FIVE RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND A SPECIFIC PLAN FOR ALTERNATIVE ACCESS OTHER THAN FROM AVOCADO AVENUE.
AND, UM, THE TENTATIVE MAP SHOWS ACCESS FROM COONE VIEW DRIVE, UH, WHICH IS A ROAD AND UTILITY EASEMENT.
UH, AND THE PROJECT SITE IS WITHIN THE LOW LOW DENSITY, UH, GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION.
UM, AND THE NUMBER OF LOTS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE DENSITY EXPECTATIONS OF THAT DESIGNATION.
IT ALSO HAS A CONSISTENT, UH, ZONING ZONING DESIGNATION OF RS 14.
UH, AND UM, THAT STANDS FOR RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY 14,000 SQUARE FOOT ZONE.
UM, AND FINALLY, IT'S ALSO WITHIN THE HILLSIDE OVERLAY, WHICH ESTABLISHES LIMITATIONS AND STANDARDS FOR, UH, GRADING AND THE CREATION OF SLOPES.
AN INITIAL STUDY WAS CONDUCTED AND RESULTED IN THE MITIGATED MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION OR M AND D.
UH, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE ELCON PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL, UH, APPROVED SIMILAR PROJECTS IN 1980 AND IN 2001.
UH, AND THE 2001 PROJECT WAS, UH, NEARLY IDENTICAL TO THE PROPOSED CONFIGURATION TONIGHT.
SO THE PROJECT SITE IS ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF COONE VIEW DRIVE, UM, AND AVOCADO AVENUE.
AND THE SIDE, UH, THE PROJECT SITE TOTALS APPROXIMATELY 2.45 ACRES.
UH, IT'S SURROUNDED ON ALL SIDES BY EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND THEN WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED AN IMAGE HERE OF THE, UH, STREET VIEW.
UH, THIS IS, UH, TRAVELING NORTH ON AVOCADO AVENUE FACING THE SITE,
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AND THE SITE IS SOMEWHAT CONSTRAINED.UH, IT CONSISTS OF A MODERATE TO STEEPED HILLSIDE, UH, WITH MULTIPLE VISIBLE OUT ROCK OUTCROPPINGS.
UM, AND DUE TO THE, UM, LARGE GRADE DIFFERENCE, UH, ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THE SITE, WHICH IS UPWARD OF, UH, 30 FEET, IN SOME LOCATIONS, IT WOULD BE NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE OR VERY DIFFICULT TO TAKE ACCESS FROM AVOCADO AVENUE.
UH, THE SOUTHERLY PROJECT, UH, BOUNDARY IS CONTIGUOUS WITH THE BOUNDARY BETWEEN THE CITY OF EL CAJON AND THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO.
AND, UH, STAFF WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT C**N VIEW DRIVE, UH, SINCE IT IS A ROADWAY AND UTILITY EASEMENT IS NOT MAINTAINED BY THE CITY, UH, AND HAS NOT IMPROVED TO CITY STANDARD, IMPROVED TO CITY STANDARDS.
THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES, UH, IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PORTION OF COONE VIEW DRIVE THAT IS WITHIN THE PROJECT BOUNDARY.
UH, THAT'S, UH, TO IMPROVE THAT ENTRY TO REGIONAL STANDARDS FROM AVOCADO AVENUE.
THAT ALSO WIDENS THE ENTRYWAY.
UH, THE TENTATIVE MAP SHOWS A 24 FOOT WIDE EASEMENT ROAD, WHICH EXTENDS ALONG THE WESTERLY BOUNDARY OF THE SITE AND TERMINATES IN A CIRCLE DRIVE IN THE CENTER OF THE SITE.
UM, UTILITIES SUCH AS SEWER AND WATER WOULD BE RUN UNDERNEATH THAT ROADWAY EASEMENT, EXCUSE ME, THAT ROAD EASEMENT.
THE TIN MAP ALSO INCLUDES A HANDFUL OF STORMWATER RETENTION FEATURES, UH, SUCH AS THE, THE TIERED SYSTEM, UH, ALONG CONE VIEW DRIVE TO, UH, CAPTURE PORTIONS OF THE RUNOFF FROM, UH, CONE VIEW AND THE PRIVATE ROAD.
AND SO HERE'S THE PROPOSED TENTATIVE MAP.
UH, SO NORTH IN THIS EXHIBIT IS FACING TO THE RIGHT TO OR IS TO THE RIGHT.
UH, SO YOU'LL SEE THE STREET A IS THE PRIVATE ROAD FOR ACCESS TO, UH, THE HOMES THAT EXTENDS FROM CAHO VIEW DRIVE.
AND THEN HERE'S THE SPECIFIC PLANNING EXHIBIT.
UH, THIS IS BASICALLY SHOWING THE SAME THING WITH SOME, UH, DASH LINES FOR POTENTIAL SETBACKS FROM THE PRIVATE ROAD EASEMENT.
UM, UH, AND A COUPLE OTHER FEATURES THERE.
ALRIGHT, SO GENERALLY, UH, A RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION IS CONSIDERED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING SINGLE FAMILY USES.
UH, AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE INDIVIDUAL LOTS IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT BY THE ZONING CODE, MEANING THAT INDIVIDUAL HOMES, UH, AND OTHER IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE REVIEWED AT THE STAFF LEVEL FOR APPROVAL.
THOSE FUTURE HOMES WOULD BE SUBJECT TO OUR OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN THE ZONING CODE, UH, THROUGH THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS.
UH, LOTS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING CODE, LOT AVERAGING AND MINIMUM AREA STANDARDS.
UH, AND THE AVERAGE LOT AREA IS 14,548 SQUARE FEET.
UM, LOTS ARE ALSO, UM, LOTS, UH, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF LOT TWO ALSO MEET THE MINIMUM WIDTH AND DEPTH DIMENSIONS.
UH, LOT TWO HAS A, A WIDTH OF 75 FEET MEASURED AT THE CENTER AT THE MIDPOINT.
UH, AND THEN HOWEVER, THE PRESUMPTIVE LOCATION OF A BUILDING PAD AND THE ORIENTATION WITH THE PRIVATE ROAD, UH, MEAN THAT, UH, RESULT IN A MUCH WIDER BUILDING AREA.
AND AGAIN, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT A NEARLY IDENTICAL CONFIGURATION WITH SIMILAR LOT WIDTHS WAS APPROVED IN 2001.
UH, GENERALLY SPEAKING, UH, THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, UH, INCLUDE COMPLIANCE WITH LANDSCAPING, UH, FOR SLOPES CREATED BY GRADING AND FOR INDIVIDUAL LOTS.
UM, THAT COONE VIEW DRIVE AND THE PRIVATE STREET BE, UH, IMPROVED TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE CITY ENGINEER.
AND IN, UH, CONFORMANCE WITH, UH, REVIEW FROM HEARTLAND FIRE, UH, AND RESCUE.
UH, IT REQUIRES EASEMENTS AND MAINTENANCE DOCUMENTS TO BE REVIEWED BY, UH, CITY STAFF, UH, PRIOR TO RECORDATION REQUIRES A GRADING AND DRAINAGE PLAN, UH, AND RECORDATION OF THE FINAL MAP.
AND THEN ALSO COMPLIANCE WITH THE MITIGATION MEASURES IN THE M AND D.
UH, AND SO THE MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION, UH, WAS DRAFTED FOR THIS PROJECT.
AND I'LL JUST BRIEFLY SUMMARIZE THE, UM, MITIGATION MEASURES.
UH, FIRST THE M AND D REQUIRES THAT CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT, UH, AND VEHICLES UTILIZE INDUSTRY LEADING, UH, NOISE REDUCTION DEVICES, WHICH IS, UH, A STANDARD PRACTICE FOR MOST, UH, CONSTRUCTION SITES NOWADAYS.
UH, THE SECOND THE M AND D REQUIRES THAT NATIVE AMERICAN, OH, I'M SORRY, GOING BACK TO NOISE
SO THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES SECOND IT, THE M AND D REQUIRES THAT A NATIVE AMERICAN AND ARCHEOLOGICAL MONITOR, UH, BE ON SITE DURING GROUND DISTURBING ACTIVITIES.
UH, IT FURTHER REQUIRES A, UH, DATA RECOVERY PROGRAM FOR ANY NATIVE AMERICAN OR CULTURAL RESOURCES FOUND AT THE SITE.
AND THEN FINALLY, IN REGARD TO BIOLOGICAL RESOURCES, MITIGATION WOULD REQUIRE OFFSITE CONSERVATION OF NATIVE GRAFT SPECIES, UH, AND A NESTING BIRD, UH, UH, REPORT.
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PRIOR TO ANY GRADING ACTIVITIES, IT WAS DETERMINED, UH, THAT THESE IMPACTS WOULD BE LESS THAN SIGNIFICANT WITH THE PROPOSED MITIGATION MEASURES AND THREE PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED.UH, AFTER MAILING OUT THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE, UH, ONE COMMENTER ESSENTIALLY SOUGHT CLARIFICATION, UH, AND TWO ADDITIONAL, UH, INDIVIDUALS SOUGHT INFORMATION REGARDING, UH, ANY PROPOSED OR REQUIRED FENCING FOR THE PROJECT.
UM, AND SO SINCE THIS PROJECT IS NOT A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT OR A SIMILAR TYPE OF APPLICATION, WHERE THE COMMISSION WOULD BE, WOULD BE REVIEWING, UM, YOU KNOW, BUILDING ELEVATIONS AND DESIGN, UH, THE ZONING CODE DOES NOT ACTUALLY REQUIRE A, A PROJECT BOUNDARY FENCE LIKE YOU WOULD SEE WITH A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
UM, BASICALLY IN THE FUTURE, INDIVIDUAL LOT OWNERS WOULD BE ABLE TO INSTALL AND MAINTAIN, UM, STANDARD FENCING AND COMPLIANCE WITH ZONING CODE REQUIREMENTS.
AND STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, RECOMMENDS CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE PROJECT.
UH, THE TENTATIVE MAP IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL WITH GENERAL PLAN GOALS AND POLICIES AND EASEMENTS ARE RESPECTED AND IMPROVED FURTHER, UH, THE APPROPRIATE MITIGATION MEASURES AND THE CONDITIONS ARE PROPOSED.
THE TENTATIVE MAP WOULD, UH, INCREASE THE POTENTIAL FOR NEW SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND HOME HOME OWNERSHIP, AND WE CONTRIBUTE TO REGIONAL HOUSING GOALS.
FURTHER, THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC PLAN MAKES POSSIBLE THE DEVELOPMENT OF A CONSTRAINED SITE.
UM, AND SO, UH, STAFF RECOMMEND THAT YOU CONDUCT THE PUBLIC HEARING MOVE TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTIONS AND ORDER RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND MOVE TO ADOPT THE NEXT RELU RESOLUTIONS IN ORDER RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF SPECIFIC PLAN 2023 DASH ZERO THREE AND TENTATIVE SUBDIVISION MAP 2022 DASH ZERO EIGHT, UH, SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
AND WERE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
I HAVE A QUESTION, UH, SPENCER, REGARDING CAJON VIEW DRIVE, AFTER THE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE THEREAFTER, WHO WILL MAINTAIN THAT PORTION OF THE ROAD? WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION,
UM, SO, UH, CURRENTLY IT'S ALSO A DUBIOUS SITUATION.
I BELIEVE, UH, THE, THE OWNER MAY HAVE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON THIS FRONT, UH, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR THE SPECIFIC PLAN TO TAKE THAT ALTERNATIVE ACCESS REQUIRE THAT, UH, THEY DRAFT, UH, UH, MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS AND, UM, FOR REVIEW BY CITY STAFF AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UH, PRIOR TO THE RECORDATION OF THE MAP SO THAT THE ROAD DOESN'T GET INTO SUCH A STATE THAT IT IS TODAY.
AND, AND ALSO DOES A, A ROAD BELONG TO, UH, UH, SAN DIEGO COUNTY OR DOES IT BELONG TO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THE AREA? IT'S A PRIVATELY OWNED PROPERTY, BUT THE EASEMENT, UH, I BELIEVE IS ACTUALLY, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS ORIGINALLY A HELIX WATER DISTRICT ACCESS EASEMENT THAT, UH, AT SOME POINT, UM, I DUNNO IF YOU HAVE ANY MORE DETAILS ON THIS ONE.
IT BECAME A, A, A PRIVATE EASEMENT AS WELL FOR ACCESS TO THE HOMES ALONG CO VIEW DRIVE.
AGAIN, THAT'S THE HISTORY THAT I, I BELIEVE I KNOW ABOUT THE SITE.
ADDITIONALLY, I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
AVOCADO AVENUE, I THINK IT HAS A CEMENT BARRIER DIVIDING THE TRAFFIC FROM NORTH AND SOUTH.
SO THEREFORE, WHEN YOU'RE COMING OUT OF CAHO, YOU DRIVE, THE ONLY TURN THAT YOU CAN MAKE IS TO THE RIGHT, CORRECT? CORRECT.
SO THEY'RE NOT INTENDING TO MAKE A LEFT TURN FROM THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION, NO IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WOULD, UH, MAKE A LEFT TURN.
I BELIEVE THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE, UH, UH, DANGEROUS AND I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD
MAYBE I MISHEARD YOU IN REGARDS TO THE SEWAGE AND DRAINAGE.
THERE HASN'T BEEN A PLAN DEVELOPED FOR THAT YET, YOU SAID.
SO I, I AM AWARE THAT THE, UH, THERE IS AN IMPROVEMENT PLAN ALREADY IN THE WORKS TO TAKE A, UH, A PRIVATE SEWER MAIN UP KAON VIEW.
UM, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF REGARDLESS OF THE, UH, PROJECT TONIGHT.
UH, BUT, UH, YOU'RE CORRECT THAT, UH, SPECIFIC DETAILS FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL PROJECT HAVE NOT BEEN HASHED OUT YET, THAT WILL COME WITH IMPROVEMENT PLANS AND THE GRADING AND DRAINAGE PLANS.
THE CONCERN I HAVE IS THAT I OWNED A HOME ON A HILL SIMILAR TO THIS, AND IT WAS DURING THE DEVELOPMENT STAGE.
IT WAS, I THINK IT WAS 2017 WHEN WE HAD A, THIS WAS JUST THE DOWNPOUR OF RAIN.
IT WAS DURING CONSTRUCTION, THE, UM, THE DIRT AND ALL THE DEBRIS WAS FLOWING AROUND IN THE DIFFERENT AREAS OF DIFFERENT PROPERTIES.
UM, THE DEVELOPER WAS ACTUALLY KIND OF BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL OF THAT.
SO I, I'M VERY CONCERNED WITH A PROJECT LIKE THIS BEING SO TIGHT WITHOUT KNOWING HOW THEY'RE GONNA CONTROL RUNOFF WITH THE CONSTRUCTION AND WITH THE, UM, OVERALL SEWAGE.
SO, UH, AGAIN, PART OF THE PROCESS, UM, UM, WOULD BE TO OBTAIN THAT GRADING AND DRAINAGE PLAN.
UH, THAT ALSO WOULD INCLUDE EROSION CONTROL PLANS, UH, THAT WOULD BE IN PLACE.
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UH, AND THEN FOR, IN TERMS OF LIKE ONGOING STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, UH, THE TENTATIVE MAP SHOWS, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE, UH, BASINS ESSENTIALLY TO CAPTURE STORMWATER RUNOFF AS WELL AS LIKE A, A, LIKE, IT'S LIKE A THREE TIERED SYSTEM, UH, ALONG THE SOUTH, UH, SOUTH, UH, FRONTAGE KIND OF WHERE THE BORDER OF THE COUNTY AND THE CITY ARE, UH, TO CAPTURE RUNOFF FROM THE ACTUAL ROADWAYS.UM, BUT DURING THE DEVELOPMENT PHASE, THE GRADING AND DRAINAGE PLAN, UH, AND, UM, UH, I'M SORRY, UH, GRADING AND DRAINAGE AND, UH, EROSION CONTROL PLANS SHOULD HOPEFULLY ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS.
AS FAR AS THE AVOCADO, ARE THEY PLANNING ON BUILDING A RETAINING WALL? IT MIGHT'VE BEEN IN THE PLANS AND I MISSED IT.
A RETAINING WALL IS NOT PROPOSED ALONG THE FRONTAGE ON AVOCADO.
AND IF I MAY ADD, UM, JUST WITH REGARDS TO THE GRADIENT DRAINAGE PLAN AND STORMWATER DESIGN, UM, THOSE CONCEPTUAL DESIGN PLANS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED BY OUR ENGINEERING SERVICES DEPARTMENTS.
THEY'VE BEEN DETERMINED TO BE, UM, ADEQUATE AND FEASIBLE FOR THIS, UH, UH, PROPOSED SUBDIVISION.
AND, UM, THEY'RE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONNECT TO THE, UH, SEWER SYSTEM THROUGH OUR GRAVITY FLOW.
UM, SO THERE'S NO ANTICIPATED PROBLEMS WITH THAT AND THEY WOULD JUST HAVE TO BE, UM, UM, EVALUATED THROUGH FINAL ENGINEERING, WHICH WOULD BE SUBSEQUENTLY APPROVED, UM, THROUGH OUR ENGINEERING SERVICES AS WELL.
SO CC NRS ARE NOT, UH, REQUIRED IN THIS SITUATION, BUT AGAIN, THE, THE ROADWAYS, UH, AND THE UTILITIES WOULD NEED TO BE, UH, MAINTAINED.
UH, AND SO THAT'S PART OF THOSE AGREEMENTS THAT WOULD COME, UM, TO CITY STAFF AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR REVIEW.
I PROBABLY HAVE TO THROW IN THE TYLER REPORT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'VE GOT TWO QUESTIONS.
UH, ONE IS I ALWAYS LOVE READING THE MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATIONS,
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE RELOCATED IN THE SITE AND PART OF THE LANDSCAPING? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WAS ONE OF THE REQUIRED BIO, UH, MITIGATION, UH, MEASURES.
UH, I BELIEVE THE TWO WERE RELATED TO THE GRASSLANDS, UH, MITIGATION AT A, UH, A PERCENT RATE OF THE, THE EXISTING.
UM, UH, BUT NO, I, I DON'T BELIEVE THOSE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE RELOCATED.
I DON'T BELIEVE I READ THAT IN THE M AND D WHEN I WAS LIKE, I'VE NEVER HEARD OF THIS PLANT BEFORE.
WHY HAVEN'T I HEARD OF THIS PLANT? BECAUSE IT GROWS IN MEXICO AND COLORADO AND NEW MEXICO, AND APPARENTLY THERE'S THIS ONE SPECIES THAT LIVES IN SAN DIEGO.
SO IT WOULD BE COOL TO THE DEVELOPER IF YOU COULD PUT THAT IN THE LANDSCAPING, JUST RELOCATE IT INSTEAD OF CHUCKING IT BECAUSE IT'S A RARE PLANT IN SAN DIEGO.
UM, THE SECOND QUESTION IS, THIS HAS GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS TWICE BEFORE AND IT JUST TIMED OUT.
I ASSUME THERE WERE DIFFICULTIES.
DO WE KNOW WHAT THOSE DIFFICULTIES WERE? UM, WHAT ARE I DO? THE OWNER, UH, APPARENTLY KNOWS WHAT THOSE DIFFICULTIES WERE.
UM, I'M NOT AWARE OF THE SPECIFICS, BUT I, I DO KNOW THAT THE FIRST TWO PROJECTS WERE EXTENDED THREE TIMES AND SUBSEQUENTLY WERE EXPIRED.
I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD PLAN.
SO, UH, WHEN WE OPEN PUB PUBLIC COMMENT, I'LL ASK, OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CAN WE OPEN, SHALL WE OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, PLEASE VOTE.
WE DON'T NORMALLY VOTE TO OPEN.
WE CAN JUST OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO I'M SURE THERE'S A CARD 'CAUSE HE'S RAISED HIS HAND.
SO YES, WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER CARD FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER.
SO BASICALLY THE PROPERTY WAS READY TO BE DEVELOPED AND THEN THE, THE DEVELOPER WENT BANKRUPT.
DARREL PREACHED, I MEAN, YOU MUST HAVE HEARD FOR, AND SO HE DIDN'T WANT TO DEAL WITH IT ANYMORE.
AND I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE HOUSE, SO I SEE THE PROPERTY EVERY DAY.
AND THERE WAS A SIGN FOR SALE THAT'S 12 YEARS AGO.
SO I BOUGHT IT AND TO PLAN TO DEVELOP IT IF I CAN, BUT BASICALLY THERE WAS NO ISSUES EXCEPT THAT HE RAN OUTTA MONEY.
SO SOMETIMES THE PLANS DON'T GO FORWARD WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY.
AND IF, IF YOU'RE ASKING ME ABOUT THE, UH, I LIVED THERE, I'VE BEEN LIVING THERE FOR 26 YEARS, RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE LOT AND WE NEVER HAVE ANY ISSUES.
AND, UH, WE HAVE DONE EVERYTHING WHAT CITY HAS ASKED FOR, FOR IT.
AND AS FAR AS THE, UH, THE, THE PLANT THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS CALLED, UH, COASTAL SAGE,
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WHICH IS EVERYWHERE, EVEN IN THE BACKGROUND.I SEE IT NOW BEHIND IN THE PICTURES.
SO BASICALLY THAT PLANT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS PORTION OF IT IS THERE.
SO WE ARE GOING TO MITIGATE THAT.
AND UH, THE SECOND ISSUE WITH, WITH THE MITIGATION WAS THE NATIVE INDIAN SOMETHING WAS FOUND.
LITTLE TOOLS OR SOMETHING, THE CULTURAL RESOURCES.
AVOCADO USED TO HAVE A SPRING THAT RAN DOWN VALLEY.
WHICH WAS BELOW US, DOWN BELOW WHERE THEY HAVE NEW HOMES THERE.
AND, UH, WE ARE RIGHT ON THE TOP OF THE HILL, SO THEY DIDN'T USE THAT AS AS MUCH, BUT YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME OR ANY QUESTIONS? NO, I KNOW A LOT ABOUT THIS PLACE.
I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 26 YEARS,
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW.
ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? UM, JUST THE PROJECT, UM, COORDINATOR WHO IS ONLY AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, DOES NOT REQUEST ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PROJECT COORDINATOR.
I WAS JUST INTERESTED IF THERE'S ANY, UM, NEIGHBOR COMMENTS, BUT OBVIOUSLY NONE, SO NO NEIGHBOR COMMENTS.
SO WE CAN, UH, STAFF SPECIFIED, SORRY.
UM, DURING THE PRESENTATION THAT THERE WERE SOME NEIGHBOR COMMENTS WITH REGARDS TO FENCING, FENCING, WHICH WE CLARIFIED, UH, ISN'T A REQUIRED COMPONENT OF THE SPECIFIC PLAN.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? SO NO MORE SPEAKERS SO WE CAN CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD, MAYBE THE THIRD TIME'S A CHARM.
LET'S HOPE IT'S, IT'S A NICE LITTLE PROPERTY THERE.
AT LEAST YOU HAVE A VIEW OVER OF IT'S ABOVE THE STREET, SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD USE OF THE PROPERTY.
SO I WOULD SAY I WOULD MOVE TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESO.
I WAS AHEAD, AHEAD OF MYSELF AND, BUT NOW I KNOW HOW TO GET BACK TO THIS.
SO I WOULD, UH, MOVE TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION IN ORDER TO RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE MITIGATE MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND TO MOVE TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTIONS IN ORDER TO RECOMMENDING THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF SP 2 0 2 3 DASH ZERO THREE AND TSM 2 0 2 2 0 0 8 SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
WELL, LET'S HOPE THAT WE GET THIS AND YOU CAN LOOK AT SOME BEAUTIFUL HOMES RIGHT ACROSS FROM WHERE YOU LIVE.
SO THANK YOU FOR ADDING SOME GREAT HOUSING TO EL CAJON AND I APPRECIATE IT.
ONE GONNA BE MY PERFECT THE BEST LOT I'M SURE.
AND, AND CHAIR, IF I MAY, UM, FOR THE, UM, CITY THIS HAS, THIS ITEM HAS BEEN JOINT NOTICE FOR A CITY COUNCIL MEETING, AND THAT'S SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST 13TH, 2024.
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ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, FOUR, LENNAR TOWN HOMES 132 UNIT TOWN HOMES.SUBSEQUENT ACTIVITY UNDER PREVIOUSLY CERTIFIED PEIR, RECOMMENDED CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL AS WELL BY STAFF, THEY'RE LEAVING THE BUILDING.
GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS MIKE VILLONE, SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
ITEM FOUR ON THIS EVENING'S AGENDA IS FOR THE LENNAR TOWN HOMES AT 10 50 THROUGH 10 58 EAST MAIN STREET AND THE APPLICANT IS LENNAR HOMES.
PROJECT APPLICATIONS INCLUDE A SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN OR SDP PROPOSING A COMMON INTEREST PROJECT WITH 132 MARKET RATE TOWN HOMES AND A TENTATIVE SUBDIVISION MAP PROPOSING A ONE LOT SUBDIVISION WITH A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION OR HOA.
THE SITE IS ADDRESSED AS 10 50 THROUGH 10 58 EAST MAIN STREET AND IS SHOWN HERE IN BLUE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF EAST MAIN STREET BETWEEN NORTH MOLLISON AVENUE AND NORTH FIRST STREET.
THE SITE IS ROUGHLY 6.4 ACRES AND SLOPES DOWN FROM EAST MAIN STREET TOWARDS EL CAJON VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL TO THE NORTH.
OTHER ADJACENT USES INCLUDE A MOBILE HOME PARK TO THE WEST AND VARIOUS COMMERCIAL USES TO THE SOUTH AND EAST.
THE PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED GENERAL COMMERCIAL IN THE GENERAL PLAN AND IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL WITH THE MIXED USE OVERLAY.
THESE DESIGNATIONS CORRESPOND AND ALLOW FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT UP TO 40 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE WITH NO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENT WITH 132
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UNITS ON A 6.4 ACRE SITE.THE PROPOSED DENSITY IS JUST UNDER 21 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE, ABOUT HALF THE PERMISSIBLE SITE DENSITY.
THE SITE IS IDENTIFIED IN THE HOUSING ELEMENTS SITE'S INVENTORY AS A POTENTIAL HOUSING DEVELOPMENT SITE NECESSARY TO MEET THE CITY'S SHARE OF REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS.
THE HOUSING ELEMENT ANTICIPATES 209 DWELL UNITS FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
HOWEVER, SURPLUS OF PLANNED HOUSING THROUGHOUT THE CITY AT THIS DENSITY EXISTS.
CONSEQUENTLY, THE REMAINING SITES IDENTIFIED IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT ARE SUFFICIENT TO COMPLY WITH STATE LAW AND THIS PROJECT CAN BE FOUND CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN FOR THE PROJECT.
THE 132 TOWN HOMES ARE CONFIGURED WITHIN 23 BUILDINGS WITH EACH TOWN HOME, INCLUDING A TWO CAR GARAGE THAT IS EITHER SIDE BY SIDE OR TANDEM FORMAT.
THE UNITS RANGE FROM A TWO BEDROOM PLAN OF APPROXIMATELY 1400 SQUARE FEET UP TO A FOUR BEDROOM PLAN OF JUST UNDER 1800 SQUARE FEET AND ARE CONFIGURED IN TWO BUILDING TYPES REFERRED TO AS CARRIAGE TOWN HOMES AND REAR LOADED TOWN HOMES.
IN TOTAL, THERE ARE 45 2 BEDROOM UNITS, 73 BEDROOM UNITS, AND 17 FOUR BEDROOM UNITS BASED ON THE TOPOGRAPHY AND ACCESS TO SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE FILL MATERIAL WILL BE IMPORTED TO RAISE THE NORTHERLY PORTION OF THE SITE UP TO EIGHT FEET.
THE PLANS PROPOSED TO RESOLVE STORMWATER NEEDS ON THE SITE AND AT THE HIGH SCHOOL WITH DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS THAT EXTEND NORTH MALL AVENUE AND WILL BE PRIVATELY MAINTAINED.
A DECORATIVE PROJECT ENTRANCE WITH 30 FOOT PRIVATE WIDE DRIVEWAY NEAR THE MIDPOINT OF THE PROJECT.
FRONTAGE PROVIDES BOTH VEHICLE AND PEDESTRIAN ACCESS FROM EAST MAIN STREET TO A SMALL NETWORK OF PRIVATE DRIVES, COURTS AND PEDESTRIAN PATHS THAT CONNECT TO PROJECT RESIDENCES AND COMMON AREAS.
ALL ACCESS WAYS AND TURNAROUNDS NECESSARY TO PROVIDE APPROPRIATE FIRE DEPARTMENT ACCESS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CALIFORNIA FIRE CODE ARE ACCOMMODATED.
A CENTRAL COMMON RECREATIONAL AREA IS PROVIDED AND INCLUDES PLAYGROUND PING PONG TABLE SEATING AREA WITH SHADE STRUCTURE AND BARBECUES.
ADDITIONAL COMMON RECREATIONAL SPACES WITH SEATING FOR PASSIVE USE ARE GROUPED AT THE NORTH END OF THE PROJECT AND INCLUDE TWO OPEN TURF AREAS AND TWO ADDITIONAL COURTYARDS.
THE SLIDE SHOWS THAT CARRIAGE TOWN HOMES WITH DRY VILES LOCATED BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS.
BUILDINGS ARE CONTEMPORARY AND DESIGN, INCORPORATE STUCCO, HORIZONTAL SIDING AND BOARD AND BATTEN SIDING.
ELEMENTS COLORS ARE PRIMARILY CONTEMPORARY WHITES AND GRAYS WITH MUTED BLUE, GREEN AND BROWN ACCENTS.
ALL PROJECT BUILDINGS ARE THREE STORIES WITH HEIGHTS RANGING BETWEEN 36 FEET NINE INCHES AND 37 FEET, 10 INCHES AS MEASURED FROM GRADE.
THE HEIGHT LIMITATION FOR THE PROJECT IS 45 FEET EXCEPT FOR AREAS WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF THE RESIDENTIAL ZONED PORTION OF THE ADJACENT MOBILE HOME PARK WHERE THE HEIGHT LIMIT IS 35 FEET.
THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING ADMINISTRATIVE RELIEF FOR THE BUILDING HEIGHT, WHICH WILL BE DISCUSSED IN SUBSEQUENT SLIDES.
STAFF WOULD NOTE THAT THE CARRIAGE TOWN HOMES INCLUDE HIP ROOFS THAT SLOPE DOWN TOWARD LEFT AND RIGHT ELEVATIONS TO REDUCE OVERALL BUILT BULK ALONG INTERIOR LOT LINES.
THE VERY LOADED TOWN HOMES ARE SHOWN HERE.
DESIGN CONTINUITY AND VISUAL INTEREST IS ENHANCED ACROSS ALL ELEVATIONS WITH ADDITIONAL ARCHITECTURAL DETAILS SUCH AS FOAM TRIM BANDING AND WINDOWS WITH DECORATIVE SILLS AND TRIMS PITCHED ASPHALT COMPOSITE SHINGLE ROOFS ARE PROPOSED ACROSS PROJECT BUILDINGS, WHICH ARE GENERALLY WELL ARTICULATED WITH TWO FEET OF RELIEF OR PROJECTION ACROSS AT LEAST 20% OF EVERY BUILDING FACE.
IT SHOULD BE OBSERVED HOWEVER THAT CEMENTITIOUS ROOF TILE IS A TYPICAL REQUIREMENT OF PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL APPROVALS.
CONSEQUENTLY, A CONDITION REQUIRING SUCH ROOFING IS IN THE DRAFT RESOLUTION TO ENSURE PROJECT BUILDINGS IMPROVE THE APPEARANCE OF THE COMMUNITY IN THE LONG TERM IN ORDER TO FACILITATE PROJECT DESIGN.
THE PROJECT REQUEST ADMINISTRATIVE RELIEF FOR PROPOSED REDUCTIONS TO THE OFF STREET PARKING RATE IN CERTAIN DRIVE VILE DIMENSIONS, DESIGN REQUIREMENTS FOR UPPER FLOOR TRANSPARENCY AND FRONTAGE ACTIVATION FEATURES AND INCREASED BUILDING HEIGHT.
THE MIXED USE OVERLAY ZONE ALLOWS THE APPROVING AUTHORITY TO GRANT THESE REQUESTS IF PROJECT APPEAR.
UH, PROJECT APPEARANCE AND ADJACENT USES ARE NOT ADVERSELY AFFECTED FOR DESIGN STANDARDS OF THE 11 APPLICABLE CRITERIA, THE PROJECT REQUESTS ADMINISTRATIVE LEAVE TO REDUCE TRANSPARENCY ON UPPER STORIES TO ACCOMMODATE FLOOR PLAN LAYOUTS AND TO ELIMINATE FRONTAGE ACTIV EACH ACTIVATION FEATURES EXCEPT ALONG THE EAST MAIN STREET FRONTAGE FOR BUILDING HEIGHT, THE APPLICANT REQUESTS TO EXCEED THE 35 FOOT HEIGHT LIMITATION NEAR THE ADJACENT MOBILE HOME PARK.
STAFF WOULD NOTE THAT THE SITE PLAN IMPLEMENTS AN INCREASED SETBACK LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND THE HIP ROOF TO REDUCE APPARENT BUILDING MASS ALONG PROPERTY LINES.
THE TOTAL OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR THE PROJECT IS 307 SPACES AND A TOTAL OF 292 OFF STREET PARKING SPACES ARE PROPOSED, INCLUDING THE TWO CAR GARAGE FOR EACH UNIT AND ADDITIONAL 28 OFF STREET STALLS IN ADDITION TO OFF STREET PARKING BICYCLE RACKS ARE PROPOSED AND OFF STREET PARKING WILL ON STREET PARKING WILL ALSO BE AVAILABLE.
LASTLY, THE PROJECT PROPOSES TO REDUCE DRIVEWAY WIDTHS FOR SOME OF THE DRIVEWAYS THAT ARE LESS THAN 150 FEET IN LENGTH TO ACCOMMODATE SIDEWALKS.
THIS DESIGN WILL NOT COMPROMISE FIRE ACCESS AND
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WILL HELP TO EMPHASIZE A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT.STAFF BELIEVE THAT THESE REQUESTS WILL NOT RESULT IN NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO PROJECT APPEARANCE NOR BURDEN ANY ADJACENT USES AS DESCRIBED IN THIS PRESENTATION AND THE AGENDA REPORT, STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN MAKE THE FINDINGS NECESSARY TO RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN BECAUSE THE PROPOSAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.
THE SITE PLAN AND BUILDING DESIGN ARE CONSISTENT WITH APPLICABLE ORDINANCES AND POLICIES WITH ADMINISTRATIVE RELIEF.
EASEMENTS AND RIGHTS OF WAY ARE RESPECTED NECESSARY PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS ARE REQUIRED AS CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND BECAUSE A GENERAL PLAN WILL CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN SUFFICIENT HOUSING CAPACITY.
SIMILARLY, NONE OF THE CONDITIONS REQUIRING DENIAL OF THE TENTATIVE SUBDIVISION MAP WERE IDENTIFIED.
AS THE MAP IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN, THE SUBDIVISION WILL NOT CAUSE ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE NOR HEALTH PROBLEMS AND BECAUSE EASEMENTS ARE RESPECTED.
FINALLY, THE PROJECT WAS REVIEWED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT AND DETERMINED TO BE A SUBSEQUENT ACTIVITY UNDER THE SCOPE OF THE PREVIOUSLY CERTIFIED FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR THE ALMO EL CAJON HOUSING ELEMENT REZONE PROGRAM PREPARED FOR THE MIXED USE OVERLAY ZONE IN ACCORDANCE WITH CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT GUIDELINES.
NO PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED AFTER PUBLICATION OF THE AGENDA REPORT.
STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTIONS IN ORDER RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE CQA DETERMINATION SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND TENTATIVE SUBDIVISION MAP WITH CONDITIONS.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE ONE QUESTION AND I WAS TRYING TO CATCH, YOU SAID THAT AT ONE POINT THE NORTH END OF THE PROPERTY NEEDS TO BE RAISED BY EIGHT FEET.
DID I MISUNDERSTAND THAT? THAT IS CORRECT.
THE SITE SLOPES FROM EAST MAIN STREET TO THE, THE NORTH, UH, GENERALLY TOWARD THE NORTHWEST, THE LOW POINT I, I BELIEVE IS UH, UH, THE NORTHWEST CORNER AND THAT'S PROPOSED TO BE RAISED APPROXIMATELY EIGHT FEET TO PROVIDE FOR GRAVITY FLOW OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND THAT'S BY THE BALL FIELD? CORRECT? ON THE ELCON VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL SIDE.
UH, IS, I'M LOOKING THROUGH THE, UH, PROJECT HERE.
DO WE HAVE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE FROM THE HIGH SCHOOL SIDE? I MEAN IT'S GONNA BE RETAINING WALL AND THEN A HOUSE ON TOP OF THAT.
LET ME SEE IF WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PULL THOSE UP.
I FOUND A CROSS SECTION THAT SHOWED LIKE SIX FEET, WHICH THAT'S STILL RATHER SIGNIFICANT, BUT, UH, I'M KIND OF INTERESTED IN SEEING HOW THAT WILL INTERPLAY WITH THE BALL FIELD.
I MEAN, THE PEOPLE IN THE HOUSE ARE GONNA HAVE A GREAT VIEW OF WHATEVER GAME'S GOING ON IN THE BALL FIELD.
WE DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC CROSS SECTIONS AT EL CAJON VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL.
UM, I DO KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT HAS BEEN IN DISCUSSION AND FOR REFERENCE THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO FIELD ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, BUT THE APPLICANTS HAVE BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH EL CAJON VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL SINCE THE BEGINNING DUE TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS ON THE SCHOOL DISTRICT PROPERTY.
AND MY BIGGEST QUESTION, AND I'LL LET THE APPLICANT ANSWER THIS, IS YOU GOT EIGHT FEET OF GROUND LEVEL IS EIGHT FEET HIGHER AND THEN YOU'VE GOT A BOUNDARY FENCE BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT THE KIDS FALLING INTO ELCON HIGH.
SO I'M JUST KIND OF TRYING TO PICTURE HOW THAT ENDS UP.
STACKING WITH A 35 FOOT HOUSE ON TOP OF AN EIGHT FOOT.
I, I HAVE NO CONCERN WITH THE LOOK PER SE.
JUST CURIOUS, LIKE THAT'S A BIG WALL ON THE SIDE OF THE FIELD.
IT IS AN EIGHT FOOT RETAINING WALL, SIX FOOT SCREENING FENCE, UM, BASED ON THE CROSS SECTION A, UH, WHICH IS THERE FOR REFERENCE FROM THE MOBILE HOME PARK, UH, IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY BE TWO ADDITIONAL FEET ON TOP OF THAT CROSS SECTION FOR A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF PROBABLY 47 FEET FROM GRADE, UH, AT THE HIGH SCHOOL TO STRUCTURE PEAK.
BUT AGAIN, THAT GRADE SORT OF MODERATES SLIGHTLY AS YOU MOVE EASTERLY.
AND I SEE SECTION A SHOWS THAT THE SIX FOOT COMMUNITY WALL FENCE IS FIVE FEET BACK FROM THE RETAINING WALL.
SO IT'S NOT JUST ONE STRAIGHT UP MM-HMM.
AND THAT'S SPECIFICALLY, UH, DONE TO TRY TO, UH, UH, ACCOMMODATE, UH, THE EXISTING CONDITION WITH THE RESIDENCES THERE TO THE WEST.
AND THEN IF I CAN JUST ADD THE, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS WORKED, UH, COOPERATIVELY WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
UM, THE OTHER ISSUE WITH, UM, STORMWATER IS, UH, THE DRAINAGE WILL BE GOING OUT, UM, THROUGH THE SCHOOL.
UM, SO THE SCHOOL, UH, HAS BEEN IN, UM, IN COLLABORATION WITH THE APPLICANT TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES
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AND IS AWARE OF THAT DESIGN ASPECT OF THE, OF THE PROJECT.UM, YOU MENTIONED THE UPPER FLOORS WILL HAVE TRANSPARENCIES.
YOU MEAN, UH, OPEC GLASS? IS THAT WHAT YOU MEAN BY TRANSPARENCIES? TRANSPARENCY REFERS TO WINDOWS.
SO A TRANSPARENCY REQUIREMENT WOULD BE A MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR WINDOWS.
AND TYPICALLY THOSE MUST BE TRANSLUCENT, MEANING YOU, YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO SEE THROUGH THEM.
SO WHAT ABOUT THE SITE WHERE THE, UH, HIGH SCHOOL IS, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SEE THROUGH THEM AS WELL? OR, OR ARE THEY GONNA BE, UH, THE LIGHT COMES IN BUT YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY CANNOT SEE OUT.
NONE OF THE WINDOWS ARE PROPOSED TO BE ONE-WAY GLASS OR, UH, OBSCURED IN ANY WAY AT THIS TIME.
PARIS? UH, AS I'M NOT SEEING A LOT OF GUEST PARKING, I'M, THIS IS A PRETTY BIG PO PROJECT FOR THERE TO BE SO LITTLE PARKING.
ANYTIME WE HAVE, UH, TOWN HOMES OR APARTMENTS, IT ALWAYS COMES DOWN TO PARKING.
ANY, ANY, UM, CC R YOU, YOU ALWAYS HAVE CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHTS OVER PARKING.
UM, TO ME IT, I GUESS IT'S MORE OF A COMMENT MORE THAN THE QUESTION.
IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT THERE'S ENOUGH GUEST PARKING.
SO THE PROPOSED PARKING RATE AT THE SITE IS, UH, I BELIEVE 2.21 SPACES, WHICH IS CONSISTENT WITH RECENT TOWN HOME APPROVALS, INCLUDING THE KB PROJECT OVER ON 300 EL CAJON BOULEVARD, WHICH ACTUALLY HAD A LESSER PARKING RATE, I THINK OF 2.19, UH, PER UNIT.
AND IT IS VERY SIMILAR AS WELL TO THE PROJECT ON MELODY LANE.
UM, THE OTHER, UH, TOWN HOME PROJECT THAT IS RECENTLY APPROVED.
UM, I THINK ALSO THERE'S LANGUAGE IN OUR SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVE, WHICH IS REFERRED TO IN THE FINDINGS, UM, ENCOURAGING, UH, STAFF TO CONSIDER OR DECISION MAKING AUTHORITIES TO CONSIDER REDUCTIONS TO PROJECT PARKING, UH, FOR PROJECTS IN THE MIXED USE OVERLAY.
YEAH, I GUESS, LIKE I SAID, I THINK IT'S MORE OF A COMMENT AND IT'S MY OPINION.
I, I, I GUESS I COULD JUST SAY I, MOST PEOPLE HAVE TWO CARS AND SOME PEOPLE HAVE THREE CARS, SO THE TRADITION IS PEOPLE WILL SNEAK IN AND TAKE OVER THE GUEST PARKING.
AND SO I JUST MORE OPINION, NOT REALLY A QUESTION, MORE OF A COMMENT, I JUST DON'T THINK THERE'S GONNA BE
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? SHALL WE OPEN PUBLIC HEARING? AND WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER CARD.
DAVID SHEPHERD IS WANTING TO SPEAK AND I SEE YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION.
ABOUT HOW LONG IS YOUR PRESENTATION? VERY BRIEF.
YES, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I'LL CERTAINLY BE BRIEF.
UM, GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS DAVID SHEPHERD, I'M HERE WITH LENNAR HOMES.
WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT.
UM, OUR FIRST ENTRY INTO THE CITY OF ELCON.
UM, SORRY, SORRY, NOT MY LAPTOP.
SO, UM, I, I'M REALLY GONNA FOCUS STAFF DID A GREAT JOB PRESENTING THE, THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU TONIGHT ALREADY.
AND SO I'M JUST GONNA BRIEFLY INTRODUCE YOU TO LENNAR AND WHO WE ARE.
AND SO AT NAR HOMES, ONE OF THE THINGS WE REALLY TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN IS WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT WE'RE COMING INTO WITH STAFF AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
IT'S SOMETHING WE REALLY TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN AND BRINGING QUALITY HOMES AND NEW COMMUNITIES FOR HOME OWNERSHIPS TO, TO THAT, TO THE COMMUNITY AND FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THE CITY OF EL CAJON IN THIS CASE.
IT'S BEEN A GREAT COLLABORATIVE PROCESS WITH STAFF AND WE REALLY APPRECIATED THAT COMING IN HERE TO THIS TIME.
UM, BRIEFLY, UM, DISCUSSION ABOUT PARKING.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID IS WE LOOKED AT THE SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVES FOR THE CITY.
WE'VE, UM, TO OUR TOTAL PARKING COUNT IS 310 VERSUS THE REQUIRED OF, UM, AND THAT'S WITH 15 PARKING SPOTS ON MAIN STREET RIGHT THERE.
AND, AND YOU SEE WITH THE FRONTAGE THERE, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO ACTIVATE MAIN STREET AND WE FEEL THIS IS GONNA DO A LOT TO HELP WITH THE REVITALIZATION OF THIS SEGMENT OF MAIN STREET AS YOU CONTINUE TO PROGRESS THROUGH MAIN STREET.
MOVING ON, UH, OUR OFFERING HERE, WE REALLY VIEW THIS AS ATTAINABLE WORKFORCE HOUSING.
IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING, GIVING MORE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR HOME OWNERSHIP.
UM, WE THINK THIS IS GONNA MEET THE NEEDS OF AN UNDERSERVED HOME BUYER.
LIKE I SAID, WORKFORCE HOUSING, UM, THEY ARE FOR SALE.
ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT LENNAR THAT IS UNIQUE IS, AND SOME OF YOU MAY SEE THIS IN OUR OTHER COMMUNITIES ELSEWHERE, IS THAT WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED EI OR EVERYTHING'S INCLUDED.
THAT'S A SITUATION WHERE EVERY SINGLE HOME THAT WE OFFER FOR SALE HAS A WASHER, A DRYER, A DISHWASHER OR REFRIGERATOR COMES WITH THE HOME.
THAT'S JUST STANDARD AND SOMETIMES OTHER UPGRADED FEATURES DEPENDING ON
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THE MARKET AND THE OFFERING THAT WE HAVE.REALLY PROUD TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
ALSO, WE FEEL, AGAIN, THIS IS KIND OF AN URBAN INFILL.
WE'RE GONNA REVITALIZE A SITE THAT NEEDS, CANDIDLY, NEEDS SOME, SOME IMPROVEMENT AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT CLOSE TO SHOP SERVICES AND REGIONAL EMPLOYERS.
REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE NOT HAVING TO, WANTING TO COMMUTE THAT LIVE AND GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE AND WORK IN THE CITY OF EL CAJON.
UM, BRIEFLY, UM, WE BELIEVE THIS, THIS PROPOSAL BALANCES THE NEED FOR, FOR HOUSING IN THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
UM, PROVIDES MARKET RATE HOUSING, IMPROVES STAFF SPOKE TO THE DRAINAGE.
WE'RE IMPROVING DRAINAGE FOR OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE EAST OF US AS WELL AS TO THE NORTH WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL.
WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE SCHOOL JURISDICTIONS.
A REAL PLEASURE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
SO AT THIS TIME, AGAIN, I'M TRYING TO KEEP IT BRIEF.
HAPPY TO PROVIDE MORE SLIDES AND ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS AT, AT THE REQUEST OF THE COMMISSION, WE UH, RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR SUPPORT AND CONCURRENCE WITH THE STAFF REPORT.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, I DO HAVE ONE.
WILL ANY OF THE BUILDINGS BE, UH, FOR SALE, THE ENTIRE BUILDING FOR UH, LET'S SAY SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO INVEST ON THE PROPERTY OR IS IT JUST INDIVIDUAL OWNERSHIP? OUR INTENT IS TO SELL THE, THE HOMES AS EACH INDIVIDUAL HOME TO AN INDIVIDUAL HOME BUYER, HOMEOWNER.
AND DO THEY COME WITH SOLAR OR JUST SOLAR HOOKUPS? DO THEY COME WITH SOLAR OR JUST SOLAR HOOKUPS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M ALMOST AFRAID TO ASK AT THIS POINT, BUT WHAT IS THE MARKET RATE? WELL, SO MARKET RATE IS WHERE THE MARKET IS AND WHAT THE MARKET CAN BEAR.
AND SO WE WE'RE BRINGING A SITE PLAN FOR YOU THAT, THAT AND A PROPOSAL THAT WE HOPE IS GOING TO BE ATTAINABLE FOR MANY BUYERS, FIRST TIME BUYERS IS WHAT WE'RE REALLY HOPING FOR OR EARLY FIRST TIME MOVE UP.
UM, I CAN'T SPEAK DIRECTLY TO OUR PRICING BECAUSE WE'RE A PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANY AND WE HAVEN'T HIT THAT POINT WHERE WE'RE RELEASING PRICING.
SO I'M CONSTRAINED FROM DOING THAT.
COMMISSIONER AND I, BUT UM, UNDERSTAND OUR GOAL IS REALLY THAT WORK.
I WOULDN'T PUT WORKHORSE HOUSING UP THERE IF THAT WASN'T OUR GOAL.
I'M TRYING TO GET THERE AND MEET THAT FOR THE MARKET.
KIND OF HARD TO SAY UNTIL THEY'RE ACTUALLY BUILT AS RIGHT.
UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ONE OTHER QUESTION.
I LOVE THE COURTYARDS AND THE PING PONG TABLE PLAYGROUND, THE GRASS, SOMETHING THAT'S MISSING IN THIS PROJECT FOR EL CAJON WOULD BE LIKE A POOL.
IS THAT SOMETHING YOU GUYS CONSIDERED AND THEN DISMISSED? SO WE, WE LOOKED AT IT AND AGAIN, THE GOAL TO PROVIDE ATTAINABLE HOUSING MM-HMM
AND THE WAYS, MANY WAYS TO DO THAT IS TRY AND FIND WAYS TO KEEP THE, THE MAINTENANCE COSTS DOWN AND EVERYTHING THAT HAS TO GO INTO THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE CHOSE TO NOT OFFER A POOL IN THIS AND IT WAS A, A LENGTHY INTERNAL DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
FINALLY, GAME TWO, THIS IS WHERE WE WANNA BE AND WE FEEL THIS IS WHAT THE APPROPRIATE OFFERING FOR EL CAJON GETTING THAT WORKFORCE HOUSING, WHICH IS REALLY WHAT WE BELIEVE THIS MARKET IS.
AND THEN YOU STATED THERE IS GONNA BE PARKING ON MAIN STREET TO ADD, TO ADD SPOTS TO THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT, THE PARKING ON MAIN STREET THAT'LL HELP WITH YES.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOPE.
I'M HERE AND SO IS OUR TECHNICAL DENYING TEAM IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AS YOU CONTINUE TO DEBATE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING SO CONCISE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? OH, WE DO HAVE A SPEAKER CARD FROM SHANNA.
OKAY, SO I NOTICED YOU MENTIONED THE TRAILER PARK NEXT DOOR, BUT THERE'S A TOWN HOME COMPLEX NEXT DOOR TO THAT.
UM, PARKING IS VERY, VERY LIMITED ON MAIN STREET AND I CAN TELL YOU WHICH WILL PROBABLY BE THE CASE WITH THESE UNITS, IT'S GONNA BE AFFORDABLE FAMILY LIVING, WHICH YOU'RE GONNA HAVE FOUR TO FIVE FAMILY MEMBERS LIVING IN THOSE HOMES AND IT WON'T BE JUST TWO CARS PER HOME.
AND I THINK ON AVERAGE OUT OF THE 33 UNITS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMPLEX, THERE'S THREE CARS PER HOME.
SO, AND THERE'S ONLY TWO PARKING SP SPOTS IN OUR, SO THAT IS A HUGE, HUGE CONCERN.
UM, NOT ONLY THAT BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE CITY HAS LIMITS ON THE NUMBER OF HOURS, THE LENGTH OF THE VEHICLES ALONG THERE.
SOME, I WOULD IMAGINE SOME THINGS ARE GONNA HAVE TO CHANGE ON THAT STREET IN ORDER TO ALLOW PARKING ACCOMMODATE OR, YEAH.
WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT.
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YEAH.I KNOW THERE ARE TWO CAR, UH, GARAGES, EITHER TANDEM OR SIDE BY SIDE, UH, ON THE DRIVEWAY.
IS THERE, CAN SOMEONE PARK ON THE DRIVEWAY? IS THERE ENOUGH ROOM TO PUT A VEHICLE THERE? THIS IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF AND THE APPLICANT, UM, CONSIDERED AND, AND UH, MULTIPLE REVISIONS WERE SUBMITTED TO THIS EFFECT.
UM, IF, UM, ON STREET PARALLEL, UH, WITHIN THE PROJECT IS ACCOMMODATED, THEN YOU LOSE THE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE AND SORT OF INTEGRAL INTERIOR, UH, WALKING PASS DRIVEWAY PARKING THOUGH THE DRIVEWAY PARKING, THERE'S NO DRIVEWAY.
THERE'S NO DRIVEWAY, NO DRIVEWAY, SORRY, NO DRIVEWAY PARKING WITHIN, WITHIN THE PORTIONS IN FRONT OF THE ACTUAL GARAGES.
IF THAT'S YOUR QUESTION, THERE'S PROBABLY SUFFICIENT SPACE ON, UH, A HANDFUL OF THESE UNITS TO, TO DO THAT.
UM, PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, BUT THEY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY MEET, UH, ZONING ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS TO CREDIT THEM AS STALLS.
UM, BUT, BUT BIG PICTURE, NO THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION.
AND IF I MAY, UM, CHAIR THE, UM, IN ADDITION TO ON STREET PARKING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE MIXED USE OVER LAY ZONE WHEN IT WAS CREATED AND DESIGNED WAS INTENDED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF, OF TRANSIT AS WELL.
UM, THERE IS A BUS STOP, UH, ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT SITE.
UM, SO THAT IS ALSO PART OF THE METHODOLOGY BEHIND ENCOURAGING, KIND OF REDUCED PARKING IN THE MIXED USE OVERLAY ZONE.
UM, AS MIKE ALLUDED TO, THERE'S UM, GUEST PARKING AND THEN THERE IS THAT ADDITIONAL ON STREET PARKING AS WELL.
AND SO WE LOOKED AT IT WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF OTHER SIMILAR PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND, AND FOUND THIS PROJECT TO BE CONSISTENT, UH, WITH THAT LEVEL OF PARKING.
MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE A BIKE RACK.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES, THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL CARD.
I, UM, ROBERT TENDING GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.
I JUST WROTE DOWN A COUPLE COMMENTS I WANTED TO SHARE.
UM, I LEARNED ABOUT THIS PROJECT FROM A PATIENT OF MINE ACTUALLY, AND, UM, WANTED TO OFFER SOME SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT.
UM, AS YOU MENTIONED, MY NAME'S ROB ICK, AND I'M A BUSINESS OWNER IN EL CAJON.
I OWN A PHYSICAL THERAPY OFFICE ON GREENFIELD, ABOUT TWO MILES FROM THE PROJECT.
AND, UH, IF I WERE HONEST, IT, IT CAN BE CHALLENGING TO ATTRACT TOP LEVEL, UH, THERAPIST TALENT TO EL CAJON, UM, PARTICULARLY BECAUSE OF THE HOUSING CRISIS.
AND, UM, SO I LIKE THE IDEA OF BRINGING SOME MORE HOUSES TO THE AREA AND, UM, AND I, I ALSO LIKE THAT THESE ARE FOR SALE.
UM, I, I FEEL LIKE THERE'S A, A LEVEL OF PRIDE THAT COMES WITH HOME OWNERSHIP.
UM, AND I THINK IT CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE REINVESTMENT OF THE AREA, UM, PARTICULARLY ALONG MAIN STREET.
AND, UM, I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE CITY.
ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? PERFECT.
WELL, SHALL WE CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING? PUBLIC I'LL TO CLOSE PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT, I LOVE MORE FOR SALE HOUSING HERE.
I UNDERSTAND PARKING IS AN ISSUE HERE IN EL CAJON, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT DOES HAVE QUITE A FEW SPACES, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE AS BEST AS YOU CAN WITH STILL ALLOWING ENOUGH HOUSES TO BE FIT IN THERE.
CAN YOU IMAGINE IF IT WAS BUILT UP TO THE 40 UNITS PER ACRE THAT'S ALLOWED.
NO, WE, THEY WOULD ALL HAVE TO WALK
WELL, THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA WOULD LOVE THAT.
THE OUTCOME MIGHT NOT, BUT THE STATE WOULD LOVE THAT.
WE'D PROBABLY DIE HEAT OF HEAT, BUT, BUT THIS IS A GREAT, GREAT PROJECT.
SO ONTO THE CITY COUNCIL AND I'M SURE THERE'LL BE ECSTATIC, BUT MORE COMMENTS TO COME.
WAS IT 300 PLUS SPACES, RIGHT? THREE 18? I THINK THEY SAID SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THE UM, NO, THAT LOT'S BEEN VACANT FOR A LOT OF YEARS.
THE, UH, THE OWNERS HAVE BEEN HOLDING ON THAT THING TIGHT.
I'M GLAD TO SEE YOU GUYS WERE ABLE TO WRESTLE IT AWAY FROM THEM.
THEY HAD SOME BIG NUMBERS EARLY ON IN THE EARLY TWO THOUSANDS OF WHAT THEY THOUGHT THAT THING WAS WORSE.
SO I'M GLAD YOU GUYS GOT HOLD OF IT AND YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING WITH IT.
AS FAR AS PARKING GOES, I MEAN THE, THE STATE'S, UH, FANTASY ABOUT PARKING, IT JUST IS WHAT IT IS.
YOU KNOW, THAT MAIN STREET WILL BE CONGESTED WITH PARKING.
YEAH, NO, IT WILL BE, YOU KNOW, I AM SEEING THE SAME THING WHERE YOU'RE SEEING, UH, MULTIPLE FAMILIES LIVING IN HOMES THESE DAYS.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING WE'LL JUST HAVE TO WORK WITH.
YOU KNOW, AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU WORKING WITH THE SCHOOL WITH THE DRAINAGE ISSUE, SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALWAYS A ADDED BONUS HELPING THE COMMUNITY, SO I APPRECIATE
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THAT.SO ANYBODY WANNA TAKE A STAB AT THIS? SURE.
I LIKE, UH, UM, I MOVE TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION IN ORDER RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE CA DETERMINATION, SDP NUMBER 2023 DASH 0 0 0 9 AND TSM NUMBER 2023 DASH ZERO THREE SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
YOU I'LL SECOND THAT PERFECT VOTE PLEASE.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
WELL, THANKS SO MUCH FOR PRESENTING TONIGHT.
LOOKING FORWARD TO THE OUTCOME.
AND, AND CHAIR, IF I MAY, UH, THIS ITEM AGAIN WAS, UH, ALSO JOINT NOTICE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL HEARING OF AUGUST 13TH, 2024.
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NO UPDATES FROM STAFF.UH, NO, NO ADDITIONAL COMMUNICATIONS FROM STAFF THIS EVENING.
CAN I ASK STAFF A QUESTION? YES, YOU MAY.
HOW WE'RE DOING ON, LET ME ORIENT MYSELF THE CORNER OVER HERE, UH, MAGNOLIA AND MAINE, THE TOWN HOME, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT ON THE CORNER.
DO WE KNOW THE MUR AREA? I'VE SEEN LOTS OF WOOD GOING UP.
SO FOR 300 ALCON BOULEVARD, THE KB HOMES PROJECT, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE REFERRING TO? OH, YOU MEAN, SORRY.
MAIN MAGNOLIAS, SALVATION ARMY, OLD SALVATION ARMY, JC PENNEY.
THE, UM, SO YES, THAT PROJECT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING PERMIT OBVIOUSLY HAS BEEN, UM, ISSUED AND THE, THE PROJECT'S BEEN MOVING FORWARD.
IT'S BEEN SOME SLOW PROGRESS, BUT, UH, BUT THEY ARE MAKING SLOW AND STEADY PROGRESS AND WE'RE HOPEFUL TO SEE THAT COMPLETED SOON.
LAST I ASKED, THEY'RE PULLING, UH, ALL THE WIRE AND CONDUIT THROUGH THE INTERNAL PARTS OF THE BUILDING AND THAT'S WHY THERE'S NO EXTERIOR CHANGES CURRENTLY.
MOVING AND THEN I HAVEN HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING CHANGE IN A COUPLE WEEKS, SO THAT'S AWESOME.
ANYTHING ELSE? UM, YEAH, MARIO, UH, THE, UH, TURNABOUT OR THE RUNABOUT CAN BE, THE FIRST ONE IS ALMOST DONE.
WHEN DID YOU SAY THE SECOND ONE WILL START BEGINNING TO WORK? THE SECOND ONE WILL BE UNDER DESIGN, HOPEFULLY BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING ABOUT TWO TO THREE YEARS AWAY.
AND THIS IS FAR OH, HOW LONG, FAR? THIS IS MAINE AND DOUGLAS, RIGHT? YEAH.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM STEPH? NO.
AND MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.