Jun 25, 2024 City Council Meeting 3pm

THE CITY CLERK POSTED ORDERS OF ADJOURNMENT OF THE JUNE 11TH, 2024 MEETING AND THE AGENDA OF THE JUNE 25TH, 2024 MEETING IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW, CITY COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY POLICY.

[ POSTINGS: The City Clerk posted Orders of Adjournment of the June 11, 2024, Meeting and the Agenda of the June 25, 2024, Meeting in accordance to State Law and City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the Redevelopment Agency Policy.]

WE HAVE ONE

[ PRESENTATIONS: Edible Food Recovery Program Status (SB 1383)]

PRESENTATION TODAY.

IT'S FOR THE EDIBLE FOOD RECOVERY PROGRAM.

AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE INTERIM DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, DAVID RICHARDS, TO SHARE THIS ABOUT, SHARE ABOUT THIS WITH US.

TIER ONE BUSINESSES BASICALLY ARE THE BIG PRODUCERS.

AND I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO INTRODUCE SOMEONE FROM SOLANA CENTER, UM, WHO'S HERE TO TALK ABOUT, UH, THEIR ROLE.

OH, THERE, YOU'RE .

I WAS LIKE, WHERE'D SHE GO? UM, SO THIS IS, UH, MALIKA SIN, THE DIRECTOR OF ENVIRONMENTAL SOLUTIONS FOR SOLANA CENTER.

AND THE SALONA CENTER HAS BEEN CONTRACTED WITH THE CITY SINCE 2022 TO ASSIST WITH THE IMPLEMENTATION OF SB 1380, UH, THREE AND COMPLIANCE WITH, UM, WITH THAT.

SO SHE'S HERE TO PROVIDE A BRIEF UPDATE ABOUT THE PROGRAM.

AND, UH, WITH THAT, I'LL KICK IT OFF.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS MONICA SEN AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF ENVIRONMENTAL SOLUTIONS AT THE SOLANA CENTER.

UM, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND TALK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT SB 1383 AND EDIBLE FOOD RECOVERY.

LET ME START OFF BY INTRODUCING THE SOLANA CENTER.

WE ARE A 40-YEAR-OLD NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION AND, UH, WE PRIMARILY WORK IN ZERO WASTE WATER CONSERVATION AND SOIL HEALTH WITH RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES AND CITIES.

AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING SPECIFICALLY WITH SB 1383 IN THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.

WE ARE CONTRACTED WITH ABOUT 14 OF THE JURISDICTIONS, 80% OF THE JURISDICTIONS IN THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UM, THE CITY OF EL CAJON AS WELL SINCE 2022, AND HAVE DONE A VARIETY OF SERVICES INCLUDING EDUCATION AND OUTREACH TO YOUR BUSINESSES, INSPECTIONS OF BUSINESSES AND FOOD RECOVERY ORGANIZATIONS.

WE'VE DONE A COUPLE OF UNIQUE TASKS CALLED TIER ID, WHICH I'LL GET INTO IN A LITTLE BIT, AND ALSO CAPACITY PLANNING.

SO LET'S START OFF WITH TALKING ABOUT SB 1383.

I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH THIS REGULATION, SO I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF AN UPDATE.

SO, SB 1383 IS A LANDMARK REGULATION THAT HAS BEEN TOUTED TO BE THE BIGGEST IN ABOUT 30 YEARS FOR ENVIRONMENTAL WORK.

IT'S, UM, GOT ONE MAIN PURPOSE, WHICH IS SENDING LESS ORGANICS TO THE LANDFILL.

SO ORGANICS IN THE LANDFILL BASICALLY BECOMES A REALLY POTENT GREENHOUSE GAS CALLED METHANE METHANE'S, 84 TIMES MORE POWERFUL THAN CARBON DIOXIDE.

AND IT CAUSES WHAT THE LEFT PICTURE IS, IT CAUSES, UH, CLIMATE CHANGE AND, UM, THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS REGULATION IS TO NOT SEND ORGANICS TO THE LANDFILL TO PREVENT GREENHOUSE GASES FROM FORMING.

THERE ARE TWO MAIN COMPONENTS, UH, TARGETS THAT NEED TO BE ACHIEVED BY 2025, AND THAT'S A 75% REDUCTION IN LANDFILL ORGANICS AND A 20% INCREASE IN SUR SURPLUS EDIBLE FOOD RECOVERY.

UM, THE REASON THE LAW ALSO TARGETED SURPLUS AL FOOD IS BECAUSE IN CALIFORNIA, ONE IN FIVE ARE FOOD INSECURE.

AND IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY IT'S ACTUALLY THE NUMBERS ONE IN FOUR.

SO WHY SEND WONDERFUL FOOD TO THE LANDFILL WHILE WE COULD FEED PEOPLE IN NEED? SO LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO, WHO ARE THE BUSINESSES WHO ARE REQUIRED TO DONATE? THEY ARE TERMED, UM, REGULATED TIER ONE AND TIER TWO BUSINESSES.

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YOU KNOW, THE ONES YOU NORMALLY THINK OF, GROCERY STORES, SUPERMARKETS, THEY HANDLE A LOT OF SHELF STABLE FOOD AND THEY NEEDED TO START DOING DONATIONS AS OF JANUARY 1ST, 2022.

SO ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE YOU HAVE TIER TWOS AND THEY HANDLE MORE PREPARED FOOD.

AND THEY ARE, AGAIN, THE USUAL SUSPECTS, RESTAURANTS, HEALTH FACILITIES, HOTELS, SCHOOLS, AND MORE BECAUSE THEY HANDLE PREPARED FOODS, THERE'S A LOT OF FOOD SAFETY REQUIREMENTS THAT COME INTO PLAY AND THEREFORE THEY NEED TO BE A LOT MORE CAREFUL.

AND THEREFORE, THEY WERE GIVEN A COUPLE EXTRA YEARS TO COMPLY AND THEY NEEDED TO COMPLY AS OF JANUARY 1ST, 2024, BASICALLY THIS YEAR.

SO AS OF THIS YEAR, ALL TIER ONE AND TIER TWO BUSINESSES NEED TO BE DONATING FOOD.

BUT THERE'S A CAVEAT.

THE LAW TRIES TO TARGET JUST THE BIGGEST, BIGGEST PRODUCERS.

SO THERE ARE SOME THRESHOLDS OR THE, THE TEXT IS REALLY SMALL, BUT YOU CAN PROBABLY SEE SOME NUMBERS NEXT TO A COUPLE OF THE SECTORS.

SO RESTAURANTS, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 5,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE OR HAVE 250 SEATS.

SO NOT ALL THE SECTORS HAVE THESE THRESHOLDS, BUT MOST OF THEM DO.

AND AGAIN, THE IDEA IS IT'S ONLY THE BIG GUYS.

THE LAW IS GOING AFTER THE BIG GUYS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DONATE.

UM, I DO WANNA PAUSE AND TALK ABOUT ORGANICS RECYCLING.

IT'S NOT THE FOCUS OF TODAY, BUT IT'S A KEY THING TO MENTION.

ORGANICS RECYCLING DOES NOT HAVE ANY CAVEATS.

SO BUSINESSES OF ALL SIZES HAVE TO COMPLY AND SO DO RESIDENTS.

SO RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES HAVE TO START DOING ORGANICS RECYCLING AS OF JANUARY 1ST, 2022.

SO IT'S BEEN A COUPLE YEARS.

AND ORGANICS IS FOOD, FOOD, SOIL, PAPER, YARD WASTE, AND NATURAL FIBERS.

OKAY, SO NOW LET'S LOOK AT WHO IN THE CITY OF EL CAJON NEEDS TO COMPLY.

SO THIS EXERCISE IS CALLED YOUR IDENTIFICATION, AND IT'S THE EXERCISE OF LOOKING THROUGH ALL THE CITY'S BUSINESSES AND IDENTIFYING THOSE THAT MEET THE THRESHOLDS.

THIS WAS DONE FOR THE CITY IN 2022 AND WAS DONE AGAIN IN 2024.

THEY, THEY ARE ABOUT 88 BUSINESSES AND EIGHT FOOD RECOVERY ORGANIZATIONS.

UH, THE BAR GRAPH BELOW SHOWS YOU HOW THE BUSINESSES ARE DIVIDED UP.

THE BIGGEST CONTRIBUTORS TO FOOD RECOVERY ON THE BOTTOM TWO GROCERY STORES AND SUPERMARKETS.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE YOUR NEXT BIG CONTRIBUTOR IS WHOLESALERS AND RESTAURANTS.

I DO WANNA TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT WHOLESALERS.

NOW, WHOLESALERS IS ONE OF THE SECTORS THAT DOES NOT HAVE A THRESHOLD.

SO EVEN IF YOU'RE A SMALL MOM AND POP WHOLESALER, YOU KNOW, SAY MAKING FOOD FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, A MARKET, YOU ARE STILL CAUGHT UP IN THIS REGULATION.

HOWEVER, CALORIE CYCLE HAVE GIVEN US THE AUTHORITY THAT AS INSPECTORS, IF WE GO AND INSPECTED BUSINESS AND FIND OUT THEY DON'T HAVE FOOD TO DONATE, WE CAN PUT THEM ON A WATCH LIST AND THEN THEY, THEY GET A PAUSE BASICALLY UNTIL THE NEXT TIME WE GO THERE.

IF CIRCUMSTANCES HAVE CHANGED AND THEY HAVE FOOD TO DONATE, ONLY THEN DO THEY NEED TO GO BACK AND IMPLEMENT A PROGRAM.

SO ONCE WE HAVE THE LIST OF THESE REGULATED BUSINESSES, WE'VE PERFORMED AN EXERCISE CALLED THE FOOD RECOVERY CAPACITY PLANNING.

THIS WAS MANDATED BY THE LAW.

THE FIRST TIME THIS WAS DONE IN WAS IN 2022.

WE'VE DONE IT AGAIN THIS YEAR IN 2024, AND THE NEXT TIME IT'S DUE IS 2029.

THIS TIME ROUND THE PLANNING CYCLE WAS 10 YEARS.

SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU NEEDED TO DO, OR WHAT WE DID FOR THE CITY WAS WE LOOKED AT ALL THE REGULATED BUSINESSES YOU HAVE AND WE DETERMINED BASED ON VARIOUS MODELS, WHAT IS THE POTENTIAL FOR FOOD RECOVERY.

THAT'S WHAT THE FIRST ROW IS, RIGHT? SO ALL YOUR BUSINESSES, THEIR POTENTIAL FOR FOOD DONATION WAS 657.6 TONS.

AND THEN THE NEXT ROW IS BASICALLY LOOKING AT WHAT THE CITY'S CAPACITY IS FOR RECOVERING THIS DONATED FOOD.

SO YOU HAVE A REALLY ROBUST NETWORK OF FOOD RECOVERY ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COUNTY, ONE OF THE BEST.

AND YOU, UH, HAVE THE CAPACITY OF RECOVERING AROUND 1968 TONS.

SO IN SUMMARY, YOU HAVE NEARLY 1300 TONS OF EXCESS CAPACITY.

THIS IS, UH, NEEDED BY THE REGION BECAUSE, UM, YOU HAVE A LOT OF CITIES IN SAN DIEGO THAT ARE ACTUALLY OPERATING AT A DEFICIT.

SO THAT MEANS THEY DON'T HAVE FOOD RECOVERY SET UP OR THEY DON'T HAVE ROBUST AGENCIES SET UP TO RECOVER THE FOOD.

AND AS A RESULT, THE FOOD NEEDS TO BE PICKED UP BY AGENCIES IN OTHER CITIES.

SO EL CAJON HAS FLYING COLORS, YOU CONTRIBUTE TO THE REGION WITH A CAPACITY, EXCESS CAPACITY OF 1300.

AND JUST THIS

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MORNING WE FOUND OUT THAT SAN DIEGO, THE REGION AS A WHOLE HAS SUFFICIENT CAPACITY, WHICH ACTUALLY BELIEVE ME, IS A BIG SIGH OF RELIEF BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT WOULD HAVE MANDATED A LOT OF EXTRA WORK TO CREATE EXCESS RECOVERY.

OKAY, AND NOW I'M GONNA JUMP TO INSIGHTS FROM THE FIELD AND WHAT BETTER, UH, ORGANIZATION TO FOCUS ON THAN THE EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING.

I'M SEEING SOME NODS.

I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS WONDERFUL ORGANIZATION.

THEY WORK WITH ABOUT 23 PARTNERS IN THE CITY FROM GROCERY STORES TO HOS, HOSPITALS, SCHOOLS, RESTAURANTS, AND MORE.

WE HAD THE PLEASURE OF VISITING THEM.

UM, THEY ARE UNIQUE IN THAT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE KITCHEN AND DINING FACILITIES.

MANY RECOVERY ORGANIZATIONS JUST DO DISTRIBUTION, BUT THEY DO, UH, HAVE DINING AND KITCHEN AND THEY FEED ABOUT 300 PEOPLE THREE MEALS A DAY.

IT'S, IT'S TRULY MARVELOUS.

THEY PICK UP SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.

SO CHEF BOBBY AND HIS TEAM, UH, ARE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB.

UH, I'D LIKE TO SHOW BRIEFLY WHAT THE PICKUP PROCESS LOOKS LIKE.

AND IT IS THANKS TO WONDERFUL VOLUNTEERS IN THE CITY WHO ARE THE LIFEBLOOD BEHIND FOOD RECOVERY THAT MAKE THIS HAPPEN.

SO THEY OFTENTIMES ARE TAKING THEIR PERSONAL VEHICLES AND VISITING THE BUSINESSES, PICKING UP THE FOOD, AND THEN THEY DRIVE IT BACK TO THE ORGANIZATION, THE FOOD RECOVERY ORGANIZATION AND DELIVER IT.

AND, UH, THEY ARE DESPERATELY NEEDED AND IT'S ALWAYS ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE ASKS FROM THE FOOD RECOVERY AGENCIES IS, PLEASE HELP US GET MORE VOLUNTEERS.

SO I'M PUTTING IT OUT THERE FOR ANYBODY WHO'D LIKE TO VOLUNTEER.

AND THIS IS MY LAST SLIDE.

I JUST WANTED TO LEAVE YOU WITH A QUICK PICTURE OF ALL THE WONDERFUL FOOD THAT IS BEING PICKED UP.

IT RANGES FROM FRESH PRODUCE ON THE RIGHT TO MILK, EGGS, DAIRY, AND MORE.

THESE PICTURES ARE ALL FROM YOUR CITY.

AND UM, I JUST WANT TO MAYBE FINISH UP WITH SAYING THAT CITY OF EL CAJON IS SO LUCKY BECAUSE YOU'RE ONE OF THE FEW CITIES WHERE THE FOOD THAT IS BEING PICKED UP BY YOUR GENERATORS IS ACTUALLY STAYING RIGHT HERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND HELPING YOUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

UH, THE CITY OF EL CAJON IS OFTEN AN EXCELLENT START WITH SB 1380 THREES IBLE FOOD RECOVERY PROGRAM.

AND IT WAS MY PLEASURE TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE.

I WILL STOP FOUR QUESTIONS.

THANKS VERY MUCH.

LEMME SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU, MICHELLE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

IT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION.

A LOT OF INFORMATION.

SO THERE ARE A LOT OF RESIDENTS, UH, IN EL CAJON WHO ARE FOOD INSECURE.

AND EVERY NOW AND THEN, UH, ON SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES, I SEE SOMEONE LOOKING, HEY, I NEED SOME FOOD FOR MY KIDS.

I'M IN A MOTEL.

OR, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T GET PAID TILL NEXT FRIDAY AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY MILK, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CEREAL, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO EAT.

WHERE CAN THOSE, OR WHERE CAN I, UH, REFER THOSE PEOPLE TO, TO GET SOME OF THIS RECOVERED FOOD? THEY, THEY ARE QUITE A FEW ORGANIZATIONS.

UM, THE SALVATION ARMY IS ONE THAT COMES TO MIND WHERE THEY CAN GO THERE AND THEY DO DISTRIBUTION EVERY WEEK.

AND THERE ARE SEVERAL OTHERS.

THE TWO BIGGEST ARE THE SALVATION ARMY IN EAST COUNTY.

SO THERE'S ACTUALLY A LIST OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT OPERATE IN THE CITY ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

ON OUR WEBSITE.

ON YOUR WEBSITE.

SO, UH, I'LL, I'LL WORK WITH MONICA AND SHE'LL MAYBE SEND YOU THE LINK TO WHERE THOSE ORGANIZATIONS ARE.

OKAY, YEAH.

I'LL GET WITH MONICA.

STEVE OR PHIL, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING, STEVE? NO, YOU'RE GREAT.

IS THIS ABOUT, UM, FOOD RECOVERY FROM INSTITUTIONS TO HELP THOSE WHO ARE INSECURE WITH FOOD AND, AND TO DISTRIBUTE THAT? OR IS IT THE RECYCLING OF FOOD AWAY FROM LANDFILLS INTO BIO DIGESTERS OR SOMETHING? YEAH, WHICH I KNOW.

GREAT QUESTION.

AND I WALKED, I WENT THROUGH THE SLIDES TOO QUICKLY.

THIS IS ABOUT DOING BOTH, RIGHT? SO IT STARTS WITH IF YOU ARE A BIG INSTITUTION AND YOU HAVE FOOD FOR RECOVERY, THEN ABSOLUTELY IT SHOULD BE FIRST RECOVERED.

AND THEN ONCE YOU'RE DONE WITH RECOVERY AND YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE EXCESS FOOD THAT MAYBE IT'S NOT SAFE ANYMORE OR MAYBE IT'S TRIMMINGS WASTE, YOU KNOW, STUFF THAT CAN'T BE RESCUED FOR FOOD.

NOW THAT HAS TO BE PICKED UP AND SENT, LIKE YOU SAID TO THE EDCO AS YOUR HAULER.

SO IT WOULD BE SENT TO THEIR ANAEROBIC DIGESTION FACILITY.

SO BETWEEN FOOD RECOVERY AND PICKING UP THE ORGANICS, YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE SENDING NOTHING TO THE LANDFILL.

SOUNDS GOOD.

SO, YOU KNOW, EDCO IS OUR HAULER OF ALL KINDS OF WASTE, INCLUDING ORGANIC WASTE.

WE DON'T KNOW FROM THE STATE YET IF IF THEIR BUS, THEIR TRASH TRUCKS, WHICH ARE POWERED BY RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS FROM THE DIGESTERS.

CORRECT.

WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GONNA GET AN EXEMPTION FROM HAVING TO MAKE THOSE TRASH TRUCKS BE ELECTRIC TRASH TRUCKS.

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AND IF SO, THEN WHAT DO WE DO WITH ALL THIS BIO DIGESTED, UH, NATURAL GAS? YEAH.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF SOMETHING.

UH, THE EAST COUNTY ADVANCED WATER PURIFICATION PROJECT YES.

IS BEING BUILT OUT IN SANTEE.

IT HAS A BIODIGESTER OH, ALSO WONDERFUL.

WHICH WILL FUEL YEAH.

PART OF THE SYSTEM.

WHICH PURIFIES THE WATER.

SO IF EDCO CAN'T USE ORGANIC WASTE AND METHANE ANYMORE, I LIKE TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT THE A WP PROJECT WILL TAKE, THAT WILL TAKE IT BIO, BIO DIGESTER TO RUN PART OF ITS PLANT.

SO I WANNA MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT RESOURCE AS WELL.

THAT'S ABSOLUTELY ALLOWED.

AND, UM, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, COUNCIL MEMBER, THE LAW ACTUALLY HAS PROVISIONS THAT MANDATE THAT THE CITY THROUGH ITS HAUL OR THROUGH OTHER MECHANISMS, RECOVER RECOVERED ORGANIC WASTE PRODUCTS.

SO THAT'S ACTUALLY PART OF THE LAW.

AND THERE'S A TARGET THAT'S SET BASED ON YOUR POPULATION.

AND THOSE RECOVERED ORGANIC WASTE PRODUCTS CAN BE RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS, IT CAN BE COMPOST, IT CAN BE MULCH, YOU KNOW, AND OTHER ITEMS. SO THE LAW ALLOWS FOR IT.

SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE IF THERE'S A MISMATCH WITH THE ELECTRIC VEHICLES, BUT YOU ARE ALLOWED TO USE THIS WONDERFUL RENEWABLE NATURAL GAS AND USE IT TOWARDS MEETING YOUR TARGET, YOUR PROCUREMENT TARGET.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE NATURAL GAS MAY BE PRODUCED 'CAUSE IT KEEPS IT OUT OF THE LANDFILL.

THAT'S RIGHT.

THE QUESTION IS, WHERE WILL THAT NATURAL GAS GO? SO WILL IT GO INTO A TRASH TRUCK OR WILL THE STATE SAY, NOPE, IT HAS TO BE ELECTRIC? NO, IT CAN GO TO THE TRASH TRUCK.

AND EDCO IS USING IT TO FUEL THEIR FLEET AND THEY RIGHT NOW ARE USING THEIR EXCESS TO PUT IT BACK INTO THE GRID.

SO IT IS ALLOWED.

OKAY, GREAT.

IT'S ALLOWED FOR IT TO BE USED, THANK AND THE CITY CAN CHOOSE TO PROCURE MORE RENEWABLE NATURAL GRASS FROM YOUR OTHER FACILITIES AS WELL.

SOUNDS GOOD.

YEAH, YOU'RE WELCOME.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA THANK YOU AND ALL THE PEOPLE IN YOUR ORGANIZATION FOR DOING WHAT YOU DO.

THERE'S NOTHING MORE NOBLE THAN FEEDING HUNGRY PEOPLE.

UM, THANK YOU.

UH, I DO HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

I, I HAVE A FRIEND I WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL WITH THAT'S SEVERELY DISABLED AND HE'S ALWAYS RUNNING OUT OF FOOD NEAR THE END OF THE MONTH.

IS THERE A PLACE WHERE HE CAN GO WHERE HE ACTUALLY CAN GET FREE MEALS HERE IN EL CAJON? OR DOES HE HAVE TO PREPARE THE FOOD HIMSELF? YOU KNOW WHAT, I NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE, UM, MOST OF THE FACILITIES ARE DOING FOOD DISTRIBUTION.

SO HE WOULD HAVE TO GO PREPARE IT.

EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING ACTUALLY IS DOING ACTUAL MEALS, BUT I THINK THEIR MEALS MIGHT BE RESTRICTED TO THOSE WHO ARE ACTUALLY LIVING IN THEIR ORGANIZATION.

SO WE CAN, WE CAN DO A LITTLE BIT MORE RESEARCH TO FIGURE OUT ARE THERE OTHERS WHERE THERE IS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY GO THERE AND EAT.

SO I WILL WORK, UH, WITH AN UPDATE, MONICA, ON THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO THERE'S TWO PARTS TO THIS PROGRAM.

ONE IS THE FOOD RECOVERY SYSTEM CORRECT.

AND THEN THE ORGANIC PART OF THAT, THAT THAT DOESN'T CHANGE THE THE FOOD ISSUE AT ALL.

CORRECT.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE REASONING FOR IT, BUT YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WE NEVER TALK ABOUT IS THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL BURDEN THIS IS ADDING TO PEOPLE WHO ARE TRYING TO MAKE A LIVING IN CALIFORNIA? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN GROCERY STORE PRICES GO UP 30, 40%.

WE'VE SEEN FAST FOOD PRICES GO UP 50, 60%.

AND I WONDER HOW MUCH OF THIS KIND OF A MANDATED, UH, PROGRAM IS CAUSING THOSE PROBLEMS, WHICH FILTER DOWN TO EVERYBODY WHO'S TRYING TO LIVE.

I I HEAR YOU.

AND WE ARE OFTEN GIVEN, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THAT FEEDBACK.

UM, SO THE LAW DOES HAVE ONE COMPONENT AND IT'S FEDERAL TAX INCENTIVES AND WHERE ALL THE FOOD THAT IS BEING DONATED, YOU CAN ACTUALLY CLAIM THAT AS A TAX INCENTIVE.

AND THIS LAW WAS UPDATED UNDER 2015 AND IT ACTUALLY, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, NEARLY EVERY BIG RETAIL GROCERY CHAIN TAKES ADVANTAGE OF IT.

IT IS.

YOU GET A MUCH BIGGER, UM, YOU KNOW, INCENTIVE, YOU GET A MUCH BIGGER DEDUCTION BY DONATING FOOD VERSUS CLAIMING THE LOSS.

THE BOARD THE LIFT IS REALLY IN THE INITIAL LEARNING.

SO THAT'S ONE COMPONENT.

I THINK THE SECOND THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THE LIFT IS, IS INITIAL, IT'S IN THE TRAINING OF THE INDIVIDUALS, BECAUSE ONCE THE INDIVIDUALS GET TRAINED, THEN IT DOES NOT REALLY IMPACT ORGANIZATIONS THAT MUCH.

WE HAVE DONE LOTS OF WORK WITH BIG ORGANIZATIONS AND SMALL ORGANIZATIONS, AND ACROSS

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YOU KNOW, THIS FOOD INSTEAD OF BEING SENT TO THE ORGANICS BIN NEEDS TO BE SET ASIDE HERE IN THE FREEZER.

AND ONCE A WEEK SOMEONE'S GONNA COME BY AND PICK IT UP.

SO IT'S LIKE DEVELOPING THAT, THOSE HABITS.

AND ONCE THOSE HABITS ARE DEVELOPED, THE LIFT IS NOTHING.

I MEAN OKAY.

SO EVERY TIME WE ADD REGULATIONS, THERE'S MONEY THAT HAS TO BE PAID OUT IN COMPLIANCE COSTS.

I MEAN, ANY, ANY ORGANIZATION HAS TO RIGHT.

BE HEAVILY INVOLVED IN COMPLIANCE, ESPECIALLY IN CALIFORNIA.

I, I DON'T HAVE HEARTBURN WITH, UH, PEOPLE DONATING FOOD AND THAT THEY GET THE RIGHT OFF THEIR TAXES.

THAT'S EVEN BETTER.

BUT MANDATING THAT PEOPLE COMPLY IN, IN ORGANICS PROGRAM, DO YOU, I I, I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT FROM A GOVERNMENTAL PERSPECTIVE, FROM A COST PERSPECTIVE, BUT I'M WONDERING, DO YOU HAVE HARD NUMBERS ON, SAY THE AVERAGE ALBERTSONS? MM-HMM.

, HOW MUCH DOES IT COST ALBERTSONS TO BE COMPLIANT WITH THIS PROGRAM? YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY HARD NUMBERS.

UM, A LOT OF THE BIG STORES LIKE ALBERTSONS, WS, RALPH'S, THEY ACTUALLY BACKHAUL ALL THEIR ORGANICS.

THEY PUT PROGRAMS IN PLACE BEFORE THESE REGULATIONS WENT INTO EFFECT.

AND THEY DID IT BECAUSE OF THEIR OWN ESG REPORTING, YOU KNOW, FOR THEIR MAYBE SHAREHOLDERS, UH, DRIVEN BY OTHER WHAT CORPORATE REQUIREMENTS.

BUT THEY ARE SMALLER GROCERY STORES WHICH HAVE TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, USE THE SERVICE.

THEY WOULD'VE HAD TO DISPOSE OF THAT MATERIAL NO MATTER WHAT.

WHAT THEY GET TO DO NOW IS INSTEAD OF PAYING FOR HAULING FEES, THEY GET TO DONATE SOME AMOUNT OF IT AND ACTUALLY CLAIM A TAX DEDUCTION.

SO THEY ACTUALLY ARE REDUCING THEIR HAULING FEES.

SO THAT'S THE WHOLE THING IS THAT IF YOU DO THIS, ESPECIALLY THE BIG GUYS, THEY GET TO SAVE ON HAULING FEES.

I DON'T HAVE IT ANY NUMBERS, UNFORTUNATELY.

THEY, IT'S, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THEY'RE WILLING TO SHARE.

UM, I IS IT YOUR UNDERSTANDING THEN THAT THIS WOULD BE A, A, A NEUTRAL REVENUE, UH, DEV REVENUE NEUTRAL TYPE PROPOSAL? I DON'T THINK I CAN CONCLUSIVELY SAY THAT.

UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THE KIND OF THING THAT, THAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.

I HEAR YOU.

AND WHAT, WHAT ABOUT LIKE, THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT HAS TO BUILD A, A, A NEW SHELTER FOR, FOR MORE, UH, ORGANIC CONTAINERS AND THEN THEY GET FINED IF THE ORGANICS ARE NOT, UH, COMPLETELY DONE CORRECTLY AND THERE'S SOME OTHER TRASH MIXED IN WITH OUR ORGANICS.

I MEAN, I CAN'T, IMA WELL, I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THAT, UH, PEOPLE WHO RUN APARTMENT COMPLEXES ARE SCREAMING ABOUT THIS.

THEY, THEY, THEY'RE REALLY ANGRY ABOUT THIS.

SO I, I DON'T WANNA BE CONFRONTATIONAL WITH YOU, BUT I I HEAR YOU.

I'M WORRIED ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING TO OUR SOCIETY RIGHT NOW.

MM-HMM.

, UH, PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE ANYMORE.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD JUST ADD REGULATION UPON REGULATION UPON REGULATION, BUT THERE'S A COST FOR THAT.

SO, ANYWAY, I, I JUST FELT LIKE I NEEDED TO SAY THAT AND I, YOU KNOW, I HEAR YOU.

I DON'T, I DON'T, UH, DISAGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

I'M GLAD YOU'RE HELPING PEOPLE EAT.

AND, UM, WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE, I ACTUALLY, UH, RAN A, UH, A PROGRAM WHERE WE WENT AND PICKED UP FOOD FROM RESTAURANTS AT THE END OF THE NIGHT AND, AND TOOK THEM TO HOMELESS SHELTERS.

SO I, I, I LIKE THE IDEA, BUT AS I'VE GOTTEN OLDER, I'M ALSO WORRIED ABOUT THE COST OF THINGS.

I, AND I HEAR YOU ON THAT, UH, ONE MORE QUE YES.

OH, I, I JUST WANNA TELL YOU THAT I WORKED, UH, AT A FOOD BANK OVER AT MY CHURCH FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS.

AND I REMEMBER ONE TIME MY JOB WAS JUST HANDING OUT FROZEN PIZZA, AND IT'S NOT OFTEN WE GOT THAT.

SO THAT WAS A BIG DEAL.

USUALLY IT WAS LIKE CANNED FOOD AND BOX FOOD.

AND THIS LITTLE BOY CAME UP WITH HIS DAD, THEY WERE BOTH DISABLED.

AND THE, THE LITTLE BOY HAD THESE BRACES ON HIS LEGS.

HE COULD BARELY WALK.

AND HE WAS ABOUT EIGHT YEARS OLD, REMIND ME OF MY SON, AND I HAND HIM THE PIZZA AND HE GOES, DAD, PIZZA, PIZZA.

AND, AWW.

I HAD TEARS STRINGED BY MY CHEEKS AND I HAD TO TURN AROUND SO THESE PEOPLE DIDN'T SEE THAT AND WIPE MY EYES, BUT THEY REALLY APPRECIATED IT.

AND, AND ONE GUY GOES, WELL, I DON'T TAKE ANYTHING FOR FREE.

I WANNA, I WANT TO HELP, I WANNA PAY YOU.

AND WE SAID, WELL, NO, WE CAN'T TAKE ANY MONEY.

HE SAYS, WELL, I WANNA WORK.

AND SO THE NEXT WEEK HE WAS UNLOADING THE TRUCK.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY HURTING IN THIS.

AND THIS, ESPECIALLY IN THE VALLEY FLOOR.

KIDS GOING TO OUR KIDS' SCHOOL VERSUS SENDING IT TO THE LANDFILL.

THAT THIS MEANS A LOT TO THEM.

IT MEANS A LOT.

AND I, I COMPLETELY AGREE.

AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE WORK WITH BUSINESSES, I LIKE TO LEAD WITH THAT AND LET THEM KNOW THAT IN SAN DIEGO, ONE IN FOUR ARE FOOD INSECURE.

SO WITH A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN HELP FEED OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS, YOU KNOW,

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SO YEAH, MY, MY MOM LIVED IN CZECHOSLOVAKIA IN 1938 WHEN HITLER CAME IN AND THEY HAD VERY LITTLE FOOD IN WHICH SHE WAS PREGNANT WITH MY SISTER.

HER TEETH AND HER HAIR WERE FALLING OUT.

AND BY THE TIME, YOU KNOW, THEY MADE IT TO THE UNITED STATES.

UM, WHEN I, WHEN I WAS A KID, I REMEMBER, WHOA, MOM, ISN'T THAT, ISN'T THAT STUFF GONE BAD? NO, NO.

I CAN PUT IT INTO THE SOUP .

YOU KNOW, NOTHING WENT OUT OF OUR HOUSE UNLESS IT WOULD LOOK REALLY, REALLY BAD.

WE LOVE THAT.

I'M GONNA SHARE JUST ONE LAST THING.

THE USDA, YOU HAVE TOUCHED ON SOMETHING REALLY IMPORTANT, WHICH IS LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE YOU'RE USING THE FOOD TO ITS ULTIMATE POTENTIAL.

AND THEN THERE'S THE DATE CODE ASPECT.

SO A LOT OF OUR ITEMS, PACKAGED FOOD ITEMS HAVE DATE CODES ON IT.

USED BY SELL, BY BEST OF, USED BY THOSE DATE CODES ARE ACTUALLY VERY CONFUSING TO EVERYBODY, INCLUDING BUSINESSES.

SO THE USDA HAVE PUT OUT NEW UPDATES THAT MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THOSE DATE CODES ARE NOT A REFLECTION OF SAFETY, THEY'RE A REFLECTION OF QUALITY.

SO MAYBE THE PIZZA IS NOT AT, YOU KNOW, 100% QUALITY, MAYBE IT'S AT 90%, BUT IT'S ABSOLUTELY SAFE TO EAT AND THERE ARE LOTS IN THE COMMUNITY WHO WOULD BENEFIT FROM IT.

SO YES.

PETER, I JUMP IN HERE SINCE YOU'RE STILL UP.

UM, , THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

MY PLEASURE.

UM, MY QUESTION IS REGARD TO HOW DOES, UH, THE STATE CLASSIFY WHEN A PIECE OF FOOD NEEDS TO BE RESCUED? IS THE STATE CLASSIFYING THAT OR IS THE BUSINESS INDIVIDUALLY SAYING WE'RE DONE WITH THIS? GREAT QUESTION.

UM, ALL BUSINESSES ARE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW THE CALIFORNIA RETAIL FOOD CODE.

SO IT'S THE SAME FOOD CODE THAT EVERY FOOD GENERATING BUSINESS NEEDS TO FOLLOW FOR FOOD SAFETY.

SO NO FOOD ITEM CAN BE DONATED IF IT'S UNSAFE.

SO BUSINESSES ALL HAVE TO GO THROUGH TRAINING TO KNOW WHAT THAT IS.

SO PREPARED FOODS ARE ESPECIALLY HAZARDOUS.

THERE ARE THRESHOLDS AT WHICH THEY NEED TO BE MAINTAINED, KNOWN AS HOLDING TEMPERATURE, THERE ARE DANGER ZONES AND ALL THAT.

NOW WHAT GETS A LITTLE EASIER IS FRESH PRODUCE AND SHELF STABLE FOOD.

SO FRESH PRODUCE, IT'S EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT HE DESCRIBED.

YOU CAN LOOK AT AN APPLE AND GO, YOU KNOW WHAT, IT HAS A COUPLE SOFT SPOTS.

NOW THAT COULD ABSOLUTELY BE DONATED.

MAYBE YOU CAN'T SELL IT, BUT YOU CAN DONATE IT.

OR MAYBE THE LETTUCE IS LOOKING A LITTLE WITTY OR YOU KNOW, SO THERE IS SOME VISUAL CUES THAT CAN BE USED FOR FRESH PRODUCE, IF ANYTHING HAS MOLD, IF ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, IS GROWING FUNGUS.

SO THE LAW MAKES IT VERY CLEAR.

FOOD SAFETY CANNOT BE COMPROMISED.

AND IS, YOU SAID THAT THERE'S A REGIONAL QUOTA, BUT MAYBE I'M MISSING THE IT IN THE PRESENTATION.

IS THERE AN INDIVIDUAL QUOTA THAT EACH OR, UH, COMPANY HAS TO ABIDE BY AND IS THAT QUOTA GONNA INCREASE? OR HOW, HOW DO YOU DETERMINE THAT? OH, I'M GOING THE OTHER WAY.

I'M GONNA GO BACK TO OUR, UM, REALLY QUICK.

IT'S ANOTHER GREAT QUESTION.

OH, HERE WE GO.

SO THESE TWO TARGETS, 75% REDUCTION IN LANDFILL ORGANICS AND 20% SURPLUS EDIBLE FOOD ARE STATE TARGETS.

AND THEY ARE FOR 2025.

SO EACH INDIVIDUAL CITY OF BUSINESS DOES NOT NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THE NUMBERS.

WHAT, WHAT THE, HOW THE LAW IS WRITTEN, IT'S SUPER PRESCRIPTIVE.

IT DEFINES IN EXCRUCIATING DETAIL THE NUMBER OF PROGRAMS AND REQUIREMENTS THAT NEED TO BE FOLLOWED.

AND ALL THE CITIES ARE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR IS MAKING SURE THAT PROGRAMMING IS FOLLOWED AND THEN THE RESULTS ARE NOT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY.

SO AS LONG AS YOU FOLLOW HAVING A LIST OF FOOD RECOVERY ORGANIZATIONS ON YOUR, ON YOUR WEBSITE, IDENTIFY THE GENERATORS, GO AND INSPECT THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE DONATING FOOD.

AS LONG AS YOU FOLLOW THE REQUIREMENTS, YOU ARE GOOD.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT EITHER OF THESE NUMBERS AND NEITHER DOES THE BUSINESS EITHER THAT DOES THE BUSINESS.

THAT'S GREAT CLARIFICATION.

WHAT I DIDN'T WANT TO HAPPEN IS WE HAVE STATE INSPECTORS COMING INTO THESE SMALL MOM AND POP SHOP AND SAYING, YOU DIDN'T DONATE YOUR 50 POUNDS OF FOOD THIS MONTH, SO I'M GONNA HAVE TO TAKE SOME OF YOUR GOOD PRODUCE.

THAT'S WHAT I DIDN'T WANT TO HAPPEN, SO, OKAY.

I APPRECIATE THE, UH, YES, THE HELP THERE.

THEY JUST NEED TO DONATE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT THAT IS SAFE.

SO IN OTHER WORDS, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TAKE FOOD THAT COULD BE DONATED AND JUST THROW IT IN THE TRASH BECAUSE IT'S EASIER.

TELL BUSINESSES WORK ON FOOD-BASED PREVENTION.

SO WE ARE ACTUALLY DOING THE INSPECTIONS FOR THE CITY.

AND SO WHEN WE GO TO BUSINESSES, WE MAKE IT VERY CLEAR, IF WE TALK TO YOU, WE INSPECT YOU, WE LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR SYSTEM AND YOU DON'T HAVE FOOD TO DONATE.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO DONATE.

AND WE

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IF YOU'RE AT A RESTAURANT, MANAGE YOUR MENU BETTER, MANAGE YOUR INVENTORY BETTER.

DON'T DONATE FOOD, WORRY ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS FIRST FOR EVERY, I'LL GIVE YOU A NUMBER.

FOR EVERY DOLLAR INVESTED IN FOOD-BASED PREVENTION, THE BUSINESS ON AVERAGE COULD BE SAVING AROUND SIX TO $7.

SO WE ALWAYS START WITH FOOD-BASED PREVENTION.

WELL THANK YOU FOR COMING.

I APPRECIATE IT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY AGENDA CHANGES MR. MAYOR? I HAVE NO CHANGES TO THE AGENDA, BUT WHEN WE GET TO CONSENT, I WILL BE PULLING A CONSENT ITEM.

ALRIGHT, WE'RE GONNA AGENDA THE CHANGES.

STAFF,

[ AGENDA CHANGES:]

FAIR ENOUGH.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY AGENDA CHANGES? OKAY, THEN LET'S TALK ABOUT CONSENT

[7. CONSENT ITEMS: Consent Items are routine matters enacted by one motion according to the RECOMMENDATION listed below. With the concurrence of the City Council, a Council Member or person in attendance may request discussion of a Consent Item at this time.]

ITEMS. UM, CONSENT ITEMS ARE ROUTINE MATTERS AND ENACT BY ONE MOTION ACCORDING TO THE RECOMMENDATION LISTED BELOW WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, A COUNCIL MEMBER OR PERSON IN ATTENDANCE MAY REQUEST DISCUSSION OF A CONSENT ITEM AT THIS TIME.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO YOU WISH TO PULL ANY CONSENT ITEMS? ALRIGHT, GRAHAM, MR. MAYOR, I'D RECOMMEND THAT WE PULL AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH IS THE CONTINUATION OF THE EMERGENCY FOR SEWER SYSTEM REPAIRS BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS HERE WAITING FOR OTHER AGENDA ITEMS. I'D RECOMMEND WE MOVE THIS TO AFTER AGENDA ITEM 19 UNDER ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS.

AS LONG AS YOU REMIND ME, I WILL DO SO.

UM, ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR CONSENT ITEMS? NO, SIR.

NO SPEAKER CARDS? ALRIGHT THEN, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF AGENDA ITEM SEVEN OR CONSENT ITEM SEVEN, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS. SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

WE'RE NOW A PUBLIC

[ PUBLIC COMMENT: At this time, any person may address a matter within the jurisdiction of the City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the El Cajon Redevelopment Agency that is not on the Agenda. Comments relating to items on today’s docket are to be taken at the time the item is heard. State law prohibits discussion or action on items not on the Agenda; however, Council, Authority and Agency Members may briefly respond to statements or questions. An item may be placed on a future Agenda.]

COMMENT.

AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS A MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE EL CAJON REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

COMMENTS RELATING TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA ALREADY BE TAKEN AT THE TIME THE, UH, ITEM IS HEARD.

STATE LAW PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

HOWEVER, CITY COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND TO STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS, AND AN ITEM MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO, SIR.

WE HAVE SEVEN COMMENTS.

THE FIRST ONE IS FROM SKIP HAMMOND.

MR. HAMMOND, WELCOME.

WELL, GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I HAVE SOME, UH, COPIES OF A RESOLUTION I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE EACH COUNCIL MEMBER.

I'D LIKE CLERK.

YOU CAN GIVE 'EM TO OUR CLERK.

THEY'LL TAKE THEM.

REPRESENTATIVES FOR SUPPORT AND ACTION.

AGAIN, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS SKIP HAMMOND.

I LIVE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY AND I'M A RESIDENT OF CARLSBAD AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT THERE FOR OVER 40 YEARS.

I'M A VOLUNTEER WITH UNITED SOVEREIGN AMERICANS.

I'M NOT A SPOKESPERSON, BUT UNITED SOVEREIGN AMERICANS IS A NATIONWIDE ORGANIZATION WITH THOUSANDS OF ACTIVE VOLUNTEERS IN OVER 20 STATES.

TODAY I'VE COME TO YOU AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN SHARING ALARMING INFORMATION ABOUT OUR STATES VOTER DATABASE UNCOVERED THROUGH THOUSANDS OF HOURS OF RESEARCH CONDUCTED BY HIGHLY QUALIFIED AND CREDENTIALED DATA TEAM.

WHILE THE NUMBERS ARE STAGGERING AND SOMEWHAT DIFFICULT TO COMPREHEND, ONE THING IS CLEAR.

THEY DON'T ADD UP.

JUST LIKE YOUR CHECKBOOK MUST BALANCE SO MUCH OUR VOTES.

IF YOU HAD 10,000 FEWER DOLLARS IN YOUR BANK ACCOUNT THAN YOU HAD DEPOSITED, YOU WOULD CERTAINLY WANNA KNOW WHAT HAPPENED.

AND IF A COMPANY HAD A SIGNIFICANT DISCREPANCY IN THEIR BOOKS, THEY WOULD MOST CERTAINLY CONDUCT AN AUDIT.

AND IN FACT, YEARLY AUDITS ARE REQUIRED BY LAW FOR ALL PUBLIC COMPANIES.

OUR AUDIT OF THE 2022 ELECTION USING ONLY OFFICIAL DATA PROVIDED BY STATE AFF EFFECT STATE ELECTION OFFICIALS, SHOWS THAT THE 2022 ELECTION MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ACCURATE OR LEGALLY COMPLIANT.

WE'RE NOT SAYING ONE CANDIDATE WON OVER ANOTHER OR THAT ANY ELECTION SHOULD BE OVERTURNED.

THE STATE OFFICIAL DATA FROM A CERTIFIED ELECTION SHOWS THAT THE VOTES AS COUNTED WERE NOT ALL VALID AND ACCURATE UNDER THE LAW.

TONIGHT, WE WILL PRESENT YOU WITH A RESOLUTION DEMANDING AN END TO THE INACCURACY AND UNCERTAINTY PLAGUING OUR ELECTIONS, ALONG WITH A SUMMARY OF OUR FINDINGS AND THE LAWS THAT APPLY.

WE'RE HAPPY TO MEET WITH YOU TO GO OVER THIS INFORMATION, INCLUDING MORE DETAIL ABOUT SPECIFIC FINDINGS.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THAT I CAN, AN CANNOT ANSWER NOW, I WILL COMMIT TO GETTING AN ANSWER IN WRITING FROM UNITED SOVEREIGN AMERICANS EXECUTIVE TEAM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

THIS DATA IN OUR REQUEST FOR AN INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN SHARED WITH STATE ELECTION OFFICIALS AND LAW ENFORCEMENT IS ESSENTIAL THAT YOU AS OUR REPRESENTATIVES MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THEY MAY, THEY MUST TAKE THIS MUST BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY TONIGHT WE COME TO YOU OUR CLOSEST ELECTED

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WE'RE ASKING THAT YOU LISTEN TO THE RESOLUTION, ASK QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM, AND THEN VOTE PROMPTLY FOR ITS PASSAGE.

IF YOUR ACTION ON THIS RESOLUTION, YOUR ACTION ON THIS RESOLUTION WILL ILLUSTRATE YOUR DEDICATION AND SUPPORT TO THE CONCERNS OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS AND YOUR COUNTRY.

OUR NEXT THREE SPEAKERS WILL READ THE RESOLUTION IN THREE PARTS AND OUR FINAL SPEAKER WILL CONCLUDE OUR PRESENTATION.

THANK, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I THANK YOU.

I I JUST WANNA TELL YOU SOMETHING BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD.

THIS, THIS IS NOT AN AGENDA AS ITEM.

SO YES SIR, WE CAN'T TAKE A VOTE ON THIS, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T, UH, PUT IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

THAT'D BE GREAT.

NEXT, NEXT SPEAKER IS SUSAN SCHROEDER.

WELCOME.

HOW ARE YOU? YES, THANK YOU.

GLAD TO BE HERE.

MY NAME IS SUSAN AND I LIVE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY RESOLUTION FOR A LEGALLY VALID 2024 GENERAL ELECTION, WHEREAS IT IS A RECOGNIZED CIVIL RIGHT IN THE UNITED STATES FOR EVERY CITIZEN TO HAVE FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS.

QUOTE.

AND THE RIGHT OF SUFFRAGE CAN BE DENIED BY A DEBASEMENT OR DELUSION OF THE WEIGHT OF A CITIZEN'S VOTE JUST AS EFFECTIVELY AS BY WHOLLY PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE OF THE FRANCHISE US SUPREME COURT REYNOLDS VERSUS SIMS 1964.

WHEREAS IT IS THE DUTY OF OUR ELECTION OFFICIALS TO GUARANTEE OUR ELECTIONS ARE ACCURATE AND FREE FROM DISTORTION OR MANIPULATION.

CONGRESS SEEKS TO GUARD THE ELECTION OF MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AGAINST ANY POSSIBLE UNFAIRNESS BY COMPELLING EVERYONE CONCERNED IN HOLDING THE ELECTION TO A STRICT AND SCRUPULOUS OBSERVANCE OF EVERY DUTY DEVOLVED UPON HIM WHILE SO ENGAGED.

THE EVIL INTENT CONSISTS IN DISOBEDIENCE TO THE LAW US SUPREME COURT IN RECOIL 1888.

WHEREAS OUR CONSTITUTIONAL SYSTEM OF REPRESENTATIVE GOVERNMENT ONLY WORKS WHEN THE FOLLOWING FOUR TENANTS OF AN ELECTION ARE UPHELD.

NUMBER ONE, THE VOTER ROLLS MUST BE ACCURATE.

NATIONAL VOTER REGISTRATION ACT 1993.

NUMBER TWO VOTES COUNTED MUST BE FREE FROM ELIGIBLE MUST BE FROM ELIGIBLE VOTERS US CONSTITUTION 14TH AMENDMENT SECTION TWO.

NUMBER THREE, THE NUMBER OF VOTES COUNTED MUST EQUAL THE NUMBER OF VOTE VOTERS WHO VOTED.

NUMBER FOUR, THERE CAN BE NO MORE THAN ONE IN 125,000 BALLOTS IN ERROR BY THE VOTING SYSTEM.

HELP AMERICA VOTE ACT 2002.

WHEREAS OPEN SOURCE AUDIT OF THE CALIFORNIA 2022 GENERAL ELECTION CONDUCTED BY CALIFORNIA CITIZENS HAS UNCOVERED EVIDENCE OF MASSIVE INACCURACIES THAT APPEAR TO VIOLATE BOTH FEDERAL AND STATE LAWS, INCLUDING 5 MILLION 886 100 198 INELIGIBLE, OR I'M SORRY, 5,886,198 INELIGIBLE OR UNCERTAIN REGISTRATION VIOLATIONS FOUND WITHIN THE CALIFORNIA STATE VOTER OR VOTER ROLL DATABASE, 2,776,939 VOTES CAST BY INELIGIBLE OR UNCERTAIN REGISTRATIONS 123,785 MORE VOTES COUNTED THAN VOTERS WHO VOTED NO ONE KNOWS WHO CAST THEM.

2,776,849 APPARENT VOTING VIOLATIONS ARE IN EXCESS OF THE LEGAL STANDARD OF SYSTEM ACCURACY FOR A VALID FEDERAL ELECTION.

THE MAXIMUM ALLOWABLE SYSTEM ERRORS FOR THE 2022 GENERAL ELECTION IN CALIFORNIA WAS 90.

CERTIFICATION AS DEFINED BY LAW AND ATTESTATION OF ACCURACY AND COMPLIANCE APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN FRAUDULENT AND ILLEGAL.

THE EXPRESSION BY QUALIFIED ELECTORS OF THEIR CHOICE OF CANDIDATES AND QUOTE US SUPREME COURT, UNITED STATES VERSUS CLASSIC 1941.

NEXT SPEAKER IS ANNE MAKI MAKI.

MY NAME IS ANNE MASINSKY AND I'VE LIVED IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY MY WHOLE LIFE, NO YEARS ATTACHED WHERE WHEREAS THESE FINDINGS TRAMPLE LEGAL ACCURACY REQUIREMENTS OF THE VOTING SYSTEM DURING A FEDERAL ELECTION, ACCURACY IS DEFINED AS THE ABILITY OF THE SYSTEM TO CAPTURE AND REPORT THE SPECIFIC SELECTIONS AND ABSENCE OF SELECTIONS MADE BY A VOTER WITHOUT ERROR.

WHEREAS THE INTENT OF THE VOTERS MUST BE KNOWN FACTUALLY BEFORE CERTIFICATION CAN BE LAWFULLY CONDUCTED.

CERTIFICATION OF AN ELECTION THAT VARIES FROM THE LAW IS AN ABRIDGEMENT OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS OF THE CITIZENS OF FRAUD.

AT IIO UNITED STATES V THROCKMORTON 1878.

QUOTE, FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL, AN ELECTION TO PUBLIC OFFICE HAS BEEN IN POINT OF SUBSTANCE NO MORE AND NO LESS THAN

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WHEREAS THE 2022 GENERAL ELECTION APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN INVALID, DEPRIVING US OF THE GUARANTEED PROTECTION OF OUR NATIONAL NATURAL RIGHTS UNDER A GOVERNMENT DULY AND PROVABLY CHOSEN BY US, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, RESULTING IN INCALCULABLE DAMAGE TO OUR FAMILIES, OUR WAY OF LIFE, AND THE FABRIC OF THESE UNITED STATES.

THEREFORE, WE CALL UPON OUR REPRESENTATIVES TO PROVIDE RELIEF TO THE PEOPLE AND THE ASSURANCE OF DOMESTIC TRANQUILITY BY JOINING US IN DEMANDING A VALID 2024 GENERAL ELECTION THAT UPHOLDS THESE EXISTING LAWS IN EQUITABLE PRINCIPLES OF LAW.

NUMBER ONE, PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP IDENTITY AND ELIGIBILITY REQUIRED TO REGISTER AND VOTE NOT ANONYMOUS ATTESTATION TWO VOTER ROLL CERTIFIED ACCURATE AND AVAILABLE FOR PUBLIC REVIEW AND CHALLENGE 30 DAYS BEFORE THE START OF EARLY VOTING VOTERS ADDED AFTER THAT DATE MUST BRING PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP IDENTITY AND ADDRESS IN PERSON TO A QUALIFIED OFFICIAL AT EACH POLLING PLACE.

THREE HAND MARKED SECURE BALLOTS SIMILAR TO CURRENCY WHERE IMAGING TECHNOLOGY IS USED FOR TABULATION, THE SECURITY FEATURES MUST BE VERIFIABLE IN THE BALLOT IMAGE.

FOUR SYSTEMS MACHINES, SECURITY MEASURES, INFRASTRUCTURE AND CONDUCT ARE REQUIRED TO BE COMPLIANT WITH FEDERAL LAW FOR FRAUD PREVENTION REGARDING RISK ASSESSMENT, CERTIFICATION TESTING, AND IMPLEMENT IMPLEMENTATION.

THANK YOU JACKIE ZICK, I I HAVE ONE QUESTION BE BEFORE YOU GO ON JACKIE.

UM, ARE ALL OF THE SPEAKERS WITH THIS ORGANIZATION? YES SIR, THEY ARE.

OKAY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT TWO MORE WE, WE HAD, WE DEALT WITH THIS BEFORE WE MOVED ON TO SOMEBODY ELSE.

HI, MY NAME'S JACKIE.

I LIVE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.

HOLD THE MICROPHONE DOWN, JACKIE.

NUMBER FIVE, ADJUDICATION MUST BE SIGNED OFF BY PARTY CANDIDATE AND TRAINED CITIZEN WITNESS.

AFTER BEING GIVEN FULL AND EFFECTIVE OBSERVATION RIGHTS, CANDIDATES AND TRAINED CITIZENS MUST BE ALLOWED IMMEDIATE ACCESS TO BALLOTS, BALLOT IMAGES AND CVRS.

NUMBER SIX, BALLOTS.

REGARDLESS OF ENTRY SOURCE, ELECTION, OPERATIONS AND SYSTEMS MUST MAINTAIN END-TO-END CHAIN OF CUSTODY FROM VOTER TO VOTE COUNT TO FINAL CANVAS, INCLUDING AUDITABILITY AND WITNESS TRANSFER WITH PAPER RECORDS.

NUMBER SEVEN, A NIST COMPLIANT RANDOMIZED, STATISTICALLY VALID END TO END AUDIT WITH A 95% CONFIDENCE LEVEL OF ALL ELECTIONS PURSUANT TO THE 14TH AMENDMENT.

SECTION TWO MUST BE PERFORMED.

THESE AUDITS ARE TO BE CONDUCTED BY QUALIFIED INSURED AND BONDED SECURITY FORENSICS OR FINANCIAL AUDITORS, NOT PERSONNEL FROM WITHIN THE ELECTION SYSTEM.

RECONCILIATION WILL INCLUDE THE VOTE COUNT, REAL PHYSICAL BALLOTS, ADJUDICATION, CVS, BALLOT COUNT, QUALIFIED VOTER COUNT, CUSTODY TRANSFER, AND ALL OTHER PAPER AND ELECTRONIC ELECTION SYSTEMS, INCLUDING LOGS.

NUMBER EIGHT.

IF THE TOTAL OF UNIQUE VARIANCES ABOVE IS MORE THAN 10% OF THE MARGIN OF VICTORY, A NEW ELECTION MUST BE HELD IN THE STATE FOR THOSE CANDIDATES AFFECTED UNLESS THE ISSUES CAN BE PROVABLY CORRECTED BY A MANUAL HAND RECOUNT AND A FULL REVIEW OF RECORDS.

NUMBER NINE, WAIVER OF REQUIREMENTS IS NOT ALLOWED.

ONLY END TO END SYSTEM COMPLIANCE FROM REGISTRATION THROUGH CERTIFICATION CAN GUARANTEE THE INTENT OF THE PEOPLE IS ACCURATELY RECORDED, BE IT RESOLVED THAT THE EL CAJON CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS STAND IN SUPPORT WITH THE CONCERNS AND REMEDIES PRESENTED.

HERE WE IMPLORE THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE, FEDERAL LEGISLATORS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, FEDERAL AND STATE PROSECUTORS, JUDGES, AND BOTH CALIFORNIA SECRETARY OF STATE AND COUNTY REGISTRARS OF VOTERS TO COOPERATE AND FULFILL THESE FIRM REQUESTS OF THE PEOPLE.

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THANK YOU SIR.

THE LAST, UH, SPEAKER FOR THIS GROUP IS BILL DAVIES.

HELLO, SIR.

HOW ARE YOU? WELCOME.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, MY NAME IS BILL DAVIES.

I LIVE IN EL CAJON AND HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF CALIFORNIA FOR MORE THAN 40 YEARS.

I'M ALSO A VOLUNTEER AND NOT AN OFFICIAL SPOKESPERSON WITH THE UNITED SOVEREIGN AMERICANS.

WHAT YOU HEARD TODAY IS THE CULMINATION OF THOUSANDS OF IT HOURS OF WORK BY OUR HIGHLY QUALIFIED AND CREDENTIALED VOLUNTEER DATA TEAMS, DATA TEAMS FROM CALIFORNIA AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

IT'S A POWERFULLY WRITTEN RESOLUTION OUTLINING MASSIVE INACCURACIES IN OUR 2022 ELECTION FROM REGISTRATION THROUGH CERTIFICATION.

IN IT YOU HEARD US ASK FOR MEANINGFUL REMEDIES THAT WILL PRO PROACTIVELY PROTECT THE VALIDITY OF THE 2024 GENERAL ELECTION FOR ALL AMERICANS.

IN FACT, THE RESOLUTION CITED MANY US SUPREME COURT PRECEDENTS THAT SUPPORT THE NEED FOR SUCH ACTIONS.

LAWS ARE BEING IGNORED.

BOTTOM LINE, THE CHECKBOOK IS NOT BALANCING AND WE NEED CERTAINTY.

THE VOTING SYSTEM WHICH CONTROLS OUR MOST VITALLY IMPORTANT, RIGHT? THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE OUR REPRESENTATIVES IS NOT PRODUCING AN ACCURATE, TRUSTWORTHY RESULT.

DO YOU THINK THESE ANOMALIES WITHIN OUR ELECTION SYSTEM, A SYSTEM WHICH IS PART OF THE NATIONAL SECURITY INFRASTRUCTURE, SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE IGNORED? LET'S STEP BACK FOR A MINUTE AND LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE.

LARGE NUMBERS OF AMERICANS, INCLUDING MANY RIGHT HERE IN CALIFORNIA, HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TRUSTWORTHINESS OF OUR ELECTIONS.

I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT THE, THIS WAS NOT THE CASE, BUT OFFICIAL DATA SHOWS THESE CONCERNS ARE VALID AND THE LAW SAYS RESOLVING THEM IS ESSENTIAL IN SECURING OUR LIBERTY.

HOW MUCH IS IT COSTING US NOT TO FIX THE PROBLEM? HOW MUCH IS IT COSTING OUR GDP, OUR MILITARY, OUR FOREIGN POLICY, OUR HEALTH, THE SELF-ESTEEM OF OUR CHILDREN AND YOUNG PEOPLE? AND HOW MUCH IS IT COSTING OUR DIGNITY TO KEEP FIGHTING EACH OTHER? THE COST IS IMMEASURABLE.

SO WE URGE YOU TO AGREE TO PUTTING THIS RESOLUTION ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND VOTING IN SUPPORT OF FAIR, HONEST, AND VALID ELECTIONS.

OUR WEBSITE SHOWCASES OUR INITIATIVES NATIONWIDE AND HAS SOME EXTREMELY INFORMATIVE VIDEOS REVEALING THE ANOMALIES AND APPARENT VIOLATIONS OF LAW IN CALIFORNIA.

THE WEBSITE IS UNITE FOR FREEDOM.COM.

THAT'S UNITE THE NUMBER FOUR FREEDOM.COM.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO CHECK IT OUT AND LEARN MORE ABOUT OUR ORGANIZATION.

ONE MORE TIME.

THAT'S UNITE NUMBER FOUR, FREEDOM.COM.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME TO TODAY.

UM, I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'VE BEEN ELECTED TO ANSWER THE QUESTION UNLESS SEE, UNLESS YOU'D LIKE SOMEBODY ELSE TO COME UP AND ANSWER QUESTIONS.

UH, WELL, WHOEVER WANTS TO ANSWER MY QUESTION, BUT ARE, ARE YOU AFFILIATED WITH THE SOVEREIGN CITIZENS MOVEMENT? NO, SIR.

WE'RE, UH, OUR ORGANIZ, OR EXCUSE ME, OUR ORGANIZATION IS CALLED UNITED SOVEREIGN AMERICANS.

IT'S A NON-PROFIT, NON-POLITICAL ORGANIZATION AND THEY HAVE, UH, STATE CHAPTERS ACROSS THE STATE AND WE'RE REPRESENTING THE CHAPTER IN CALIFORNIA, PARTICULARLY SAN DIEGO COUNTY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

I NOTICED IN, IN THAT MAIL-IN BALLOTS WASN'T IN THE RESOLUTION.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOUR ORGANIZATION IS OKAY WITH MAIL 100% MAIL-IN BALLOTS? OR DO YOU KNOW, UM, OR MAYBE I GO, GO TO THE WEBSITE, CHECK IT OUT.

I'M NOT A AN OFFICIAL SPOKESPERSON FOR THAT.

BUT I THINK THAT IS THAT IN THE MIX OF JUST WANTING TO HAVE BALLOT CERTIFIABLE ELECTIONS, WHETHER IT'S IT'S AN ABSENTEE BALLOT THAT CAN BE ACCURATELY VALIDATED OR IN PERSON VOTING.

WONDERFUL.

YEAH, I, UM, I AGREE WITH ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT'S IN THIS.

UM, AND IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THESE INACCURACIES ARE INTENTIONAL OR UNINTENTIONAL, IT'S, IT'S STILL A BIG PROBLEM AND IT'S IT'S AGAINST THE LAW.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S INTENTIONAL OR UNINTENTIONAL, IT'S STILL A BIG PROBLEM.

AND, UM, A LOT OF STATES, UM, DON'T HAVE THE MEASURES IN PLACE TO PROVE FRAUD.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE STATE LEGISLATURES NEED TO COME IN.

AND, YOU KNOW, AS A LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIAL, WE DON'T HAVE POWER OVER THIS, BUT WE HAVE INFLUENCE.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO, IS, IS USE OUR, OUR VOICE TO, TO GIVE INFLUENCE TO IT.

YES SIR.

WE THE PEOPLE AND, AND THAT YOU AS OUR REPRESENTATIVE ARE DEMANDING THAT WE HAVE VALID CERTIFIABLE ELECTIONS.

COMPLETELY AGREE.

THANK YOU FOR DOING THIS AGAIN.

SURE.

PLEASE TELL ME THE WEBSITE AGAIN, UNITED FOR UNITE NUMBER FOUR FREEDOM.COM.

MICHELLE, FIRST

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UNITE FOR FREEDOM.COM.

YES, THANK YOU.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION ON THAT WEBSITE.

PERFECT.

ALRIGHT STEVE.

I THINK EVERYONE WOULD HOPE FOR A, AN ELECTION WITH INTEGRITY.

THAT'S THE, THE BEDROCK OF OUR SOCIETY IS THAT IT'S FAIR, FREE AND ACCURATE ELECTION.

MY QUESTION IS, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE AUTHORITY OVER THE ELECTIONS, UH, THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO, DOES, DID YOUR ORGANIZATION FIND ANY CONCERNS WITH THE WAY SAN DIEGO COUNTY IS ADMINISTERING ITS ELECTIONS? UM, THAT DATA IS, THEY, THEY ANALYZED THE DATA STATEWIDE.

THEY DID NOT ANALYZE IT ON A COUNTY BY COUNTY BASIS.

SO I, MY CONCERN IS WE'RE ASKING THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO TO DO SOMETHING THAT THEY MAY ALREADY BE DOING VERY WELL.

AND WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT IS WHAT, UH, INFORMATION COULD WE GET ABOUT SAN DIEGO COUNTY IF YOU HAVE THAT, IF YOU COULD SEND IT TO ME, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

I'LL TRY TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT AND GIVE YOU THAT INFORMATION IF IT'S AVAILABLE.

ANYBODY ELSE? WELL, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR COMING.

I APPRECIATE YOUR QUEST AND, UH, AMERICA NEEDS CITIZENS TO BE INVOLVED AND HOLD GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABLE, SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING, HONOR.

THANK YOU COUNSEL.

AND IT'D BE GREAT IF YOU WOULD CONSIDER PUTTING ON YOUR AGENDA IN A FUTURE.

UH, YEAH, WE'LL DISCUSS IT.

UM, OKAY.

I'LL MAKE SURE THE CLERK HAS MY, UH, CONTACT INFORMATION.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND ANY OTHER INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THE STAFF.

'CAUSE UH, WE, LOOK, I JUST TELL YOU WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE STAFF VET THE ORGANIZATION, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT, UM, STEPPING INTO SOMETHING WE'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL DISCUSS IT.

THAT'S AWESOME.

THAT'S ALL WE CAN ASK.

TWO MORE SPEAKERS, SIR.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND THE CITY COUNCIL.

UM, I'M HERE TODAY.

I'M ASKING ABOUT A, UH, A MEETING, UH, A A UM, CITY COUNCIL MEETING THAT HAPPENED ON, UM, APRIL 9TH.

UH, AND MR. DIMAGGIO PRESENTED A LIST OF BILLS IN CALIFORNIA WOULD BE CONSIDERED IN CALIFORNIA, VARIOUS STAGES OF BEING CONSIDERED THAT THE CITY FELT WERE NEGATIVE TO THE CITY AS WELL AS LOCAL ENTITIES.

AND I WAS WONDERING IF I COULD, AND I KNOW THE CITY MAY OR MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO MUCH ABOUT IT, I KNOW A COUPLE OF LETTERS WERE GENERATED FOR IT AGAINST, AGAINST A COUPLE OF, UM, OF THE BILLS.

BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH YOUR, YOUR, YOUR LETTERS UNDER THE HEADING OF CITY OF SAN DIEGO, HOW MUCH THE EFFECT, WHAT ACTUALLY GOES ON IN, IN SACRAMENTO.

AND I'M INTERESTED IN GETTING A COPY OF THAT LIST IF I CAN, AND ANY UPDATES THAT THEY HAVE BEEN MADE TO THAT LIST SINCE THEN.

'CAUSE IT WAS A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

AND I'M INTERESTED IN STARTING SOME SORT OF CITIZENS REVIEW AND, UH, TO WANT TO REVIEW THEM AND TO UNDERSTAND WHY THEY'RE NEGATIVE TO, FOR THE CITY AND THE DEFOR.

I DON'T KNOW IF I COULD FORM A CITIZENS GROUP OR MAYBE I'M, IT'S A GROUP OF ONE PERSON OR MAYBE YOU KNOW, OTHER PEOPLE.

BUT I LIKE TO MEET, I'M THINKING OF MEETING WITH STATE REPRESENTATIVES, MY REPRESENTATIVES, WHICH ARE AKILA WEBER AND BRIAN JONES IN MY CASE.

AND JUST GOING OVER THE LIST AND SAY, YOU KNOW, HIGHLIGHTING MAYBE A FEW OF 'EM SAYING, DO YOU SUPPORT THIS? WHY, YOU KNOW, IF I THINK IT'S BAD FOR THE CITY OR BAD FOR LOCAL ENTITIES, WHY DO YOU STILL SUPPORTING IT? WHAT'S GOING ON? IT'S KIND OF BRINGING TO THEIR ATTENTION THAT WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN SACRAMENTO AND SOMEHOW PUBLICIZE THIS.

I DON'T, I HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT HOW TO DO THAT YET.

WHETHER FACEBOOK OR, OR, UH, NEXTDOOR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO KIND OF BUILD A GROUP TO PUBLICIZE THE FACT THAT, WELL, NIKITA WEBER'S GONNA VOTE FOR THIS THING, WHICH IS NEGATIVE FOR THE CITY OF EL CAJON.

UH, DO YOU WANNA VOTE FOR HER IN THE NEXT ELECTION? I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT WOULD GO, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO GET A COPY OF A, THE LIST AND THERE'S ANY UPDATES TO IT AND I'D LIKE TO KIND OF PURSUE IT FROM A CITIZEN'S POINT OF VIEW TO TRY TO HELP THE CITY OF EL CAJON.

MAYBE YOU CAN'T DO AS MUCH AS PERHAPS WE CAN DO TO TALK TO OUR OWN REPRESENTATIVES.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN DOING.

WELL, LET ME, VINCE, UH, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO, UH, KEEP HIM ON YOUR EMAIL CHAIN ABOUT UPDATES ON, UH, YES.

IF, UM, MR. CONDO WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE HIS CONTACT INFORMATION TO, UM, OUR CITY CLERK, I'LL BE SURE HE GETS THE LIST OF BILLS THAT, UH, I PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

MOST OF THE BILLS ARE, ARE IN PROCESS.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN VARIOUS COMMITTEES AT THIS POINT.

SOME MAY HAVE BEEN, UM, PASSED BY THE HOUSE THAT THEY ORIGINATED IN AND NOW OVER AT THE OTHER HOUSE.

USUALLY I WAIT A LITTLE BIT LONGER UNTIL I GIVE, UH, A COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE TO THE CITY COUNCIL UNTIL I KNOW THE STATUS OF THE BILL.

I'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE YOU THE LIST.

THAT'S NO PROBLEM AT ALL.

SO HOW WOULD I GET THE LIST? WOULD I GET IT FROM SOMEBODY? IF YOU WOULD GIVE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS TO OUR CITY CLERK.

MR. DIMAGGIO WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED.

WELL INTERESTING BILLS THAT COME OUTTA SACRAMENTO.

LIKE HE DOES US ABOUT THESE, UH, UM, INTERESTING.

AND, UH,

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WELL, I WISH I HAD AS BIG A GROUP AS THESE PEOPLE, ALTHOUGH THEY'RE NOT HERE NOW, SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING FROM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE A GROUP OF FIVE OR SIX PEOPLE AND THEY'RE MAKING A DIFFERENCE.

AND, AND I THINK PEOPLE, PEOPLE ALWAYS FEEL LIKE THEY, THEY CAN'T STAND UP TO THE BEHEMOTH OF, UH, SACRAMENTO.

BUT I'VE SEEN SMALL GROUPS OF PEOPLE MAKE A HUGE IMPACT.

SO I I DON'T THINK YOU'RE UM, WASTING YOUR TIME.

AND WE APPRECIATE, WE APPRECIATE UH, PEOPLE SPEAKING UP FOR US.

'CAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT.

UM, THEY EXPECT US TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THINGS, BUT THEY GET NERVOUS WHEN CONSTITUENTS START COMPLAINING.

SOUNDS GOOD.

THANK YOU PHIL.

DAVID, I LOVE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

I LOVE YOUR HEART AND YOUR PASSION FOR IT.

AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING I CAN DO FOR MY POSITION AS A CITY COUNCILMAN TO SUPPORT YOU OR MAYBE GET SOME MORE CITIZENS TO JOIN YOUR GROUP, I'D BE HAPPY TO SUPPORT YOU IN ANY WAY.

VERY GOOD.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

I, I'LL, IF I CAN GET YOUR EMAIL FROM THE CLERK, I'LL SEND YOU AN EMAIL.

WE CONNECT OFFLINE.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ME, BILL.

OH, DAVID, I I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR COMING IN HERE AND CARING ABOUT HOW THIS STATE IS RUN.

AND I'LL TELL YOU SOMETHING, WHEN A STATE ASSEMBLY PERSON OR A SENATOR GETS A LETTER, THEY KNOW THAT PROBABLY A THOUSAND PEOPLE THINK THE SAME WAY.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S YEAH.

WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

I MEAN SO MANY OF US AREN'T EVEN PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN SACRAMENTO, SO JUST LETTING PEOPLE KNOW THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON, THESE NEGATIVE THINGS ARE GOING ON.

I THINK THAT HELPS.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, DAVID, I'D LIKE TO COMMEND YOU AS WELL.

HERE'S AN EXAMPLE WHY YOU'RE SO IMPORTANT.

UH, AT THE MTS MEETING LAST WEEK, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NEW COPPER LINE JUST BETWEEN EL CAJON AND SANTI.

ONE EL CAJON RE WELL ACTUALLY ONE RESIDENT SHOWED UP TO EXPRESS CONCERN ABOUT THE SAFETY WITH THE CONFIGURATION OF THE NEW PEOPLE HAVING TO TRANSFER FROM THIS TROLLEY TO THIS TROLLEY AFTER DARK STANDING ON THE PLATFORM.

IT'S ONE THING IF A BOARD MEMBER SAYS IT, IT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT IF A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC SAYS IT TO THE BOARD.

AND ONE LADY RESULTED IN A JULY 2ND MEETING COMING UP OF THE HEAD OF THE TROLLEY LINE, THE HEAD OF SCHEDULING AND THE HEAD OF SAFETY, HER ONE PERSON'S WORDS, GOT THESE THREE PEOPLE TOGETHER TO TALK ABOUT THIS THING TO TALK ABOUT SAFETY IN EL CAJON.

SO ONE PERSON IS PLENTY TO TO YEAH.

CAUSE ACTION.

I APPRECIATE YOU STANDING UP.

YEAH, I KNOW SAFETY IS GONNA BE REALLY RAISE SOME FRED FLAGS, BUT IN, IN ANY CASE, IT'S GOOD THAT TO HEAR THAT THAT HAPPEN.

SO THANK YOU.

THERE THERE'S ONE MORE THING.

, SORRY, MY THREE MINUTES ARE UP , BUT UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT INFALLIBLE.

NONE OF US ARE, AND NEITHER IS A STATE LEGISLATURE BY FAR.

AND SOMETIMES SOMEONE WILL COME IN HERE AND TELL US ABOUT THEIR CONCERN AND WE GO, WAIT A MINUTE.

I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT.

MAYBE THAT ISN'T A GOOD IDEA.

STAFF, YOU KNOW, LOOK INTO THIS.

AND I'M SURE THAT THE STATE LEGISLATURE, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT DOES THE SAME THING.

SO, OKAY.

THAT'S APPEALING TO THE, TO THE PORTION OF THE PEOPLE IN SACRAMENTO WHO ARE, HAVE AN OPEN MIND AND ARE AND WILL ARE WILLING TO ADMIT THAT.

YEAH, I DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THAT.

THAT MIGHT BE A HARD SELL IN SACRAMENTO.

TO LAST THURSDAY NIGHT WHEN I WAS SITTING WITH A CANDLE IN FRONT OF EL CAJON POLICE DEPARTMENT.

BUT UH, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU COME HERE, I'VE SOMETIMES WE GET THE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT, I GO, OH, THAT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA, .

THEN THEY GO, WAIT, THIS GUY SAID THIS, IT IS A GOOD, AND I'LL GO BACK AND FORTH TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.

'CAUSE YEAH, I CAN'T THINK OF EVERYTHING.

OUR, OUR LAST SPEAKER IS BRENDA HAMMOND.

HI BRENDA.

WELCOME.

HI.

HI GRAHAM, MR. MITCHELL.

UM, SO, SO NOW LET'S HAVE SOME FUN.

SO I'M HOUSE SITTING FOR A FRIEND IN SANTI RIGHT NOW, SO I'M STILL CLOSE BY.

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE I'M GETTING THIS REPUTATION OF, OF BEING AN ENVIRONMENTALIST.

UM, PROBABLY BECAUSE I'M HIKING AND I'M LOOKING AT STORMWATER RUNOFF STILL.

UM, BUT I'VE ALWAYS DONE THAT, RIGHT? BUT I'M NOT MUCH OF AN ENVIRONMENTALIST 'CAUSE I STILL SMOKE SOMETIMES, LIKE , LIKE WHEN I LIGHT A CANDLE EVERY NIGHT FOR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AND FOR ALL OF OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.

AND YES, CITY STAFF ESPECIALLY, ALL THE PUBLIC WORKS IN EVERY CITY THEY HAVE.

THEY DO SO MUCH.

WE NEED TO COMMEND THEM MORE.

UM, WHICH BRINGS ME

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UM, MY INTUITION TOLD ME TO PUT OUT THAT CIGARETTE AND GET IN MY CAR.

AND GOOD THING BECAUSE, UM, GROWN MOUNTAIN LION CASUALLY WALKED BY ME.

I MEAN, WALKED RIGHT IN FRONT OF EL CAJON PD AND WALKED DOWN THE STEPS, JUST SAUTEED DOWN THE STEPS.

UM, SO MY POINT IS WE NEED TO RESPECT THE WILD BECAUSE AFTER ALL WE'RE BUILDING IN THEIR BACKYARDS.

THANK YOU FOR THE CONCERTS.

A LOT OF FUN.

AND, UM, I HAVE SOME TIME LEFT, SO I'D LIKE TO DEDICATE MY PUBLIC COMMENT TO DR.

JOHN NEY.

UM, BECAUSE OF HIM I DO NOT HAVE SEIZURES AND I CAN'T GET CRAZY AS MUCH AS, UM, THERE'S A DOC WOMAN DOCTOR THAT'S BEEN FOLLOWING ME AROUND THE COUNTY.

I WANT HER THROWN OUT OF THIS COUNTY.

NO OTHER SPEAKERS, SIR.

WE HAVE ONE ITEM TO CONSIDER.

THERE ARE NO WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS ON TODAY'S AGENDA AND WE'RE NOW AT PUBLIC HEARINGS.

[14. Fiscal Year 2024-25 Annual City, Housing Authority, and Successor Agency Budgets RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council, Housing Authority, and the City of El Cajon as Successor Agency to the former Redevelopment Agency hold a joint public hearing to consider the Fiscal Year 2024-25 Proposed Budgets. After closing the public hearing, staff recommends the following: Acting as the City Council, individually adopt the following: Resolution of the City of El Cajon Adopting the Fiscal Year 2024-25 Annual Budget. Resolution Approving and Adopting the Annual Appropriations Limit for Fiscal Year 2024-25. Resolution Approving Designation of General Fund Balances. Acting as the Housing Authority Board of Directors, adopt Resolution titled: Resolution of the El Cajon Housing Authority Adopting the Fiscal Year 2024-25 Budget. Acting as the Successor Agency to the former Redevelopment Agency Board of Directors, adopt Resolution titled: Resolution of the City Council of the City Of El Cajon as the Successor Agency to the former El Cajon Redevelopment Agency Adopting the Fiscal Year 2024-25 Budget.]

ITEM 14 IS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 24 25 CITY HOUSING AUTHORITY AND SUCCESSOR AGENCY BUDGETS.

I'LL ASK STAFF TO INTRODUCE THIS ITEM.

HI KELLY.

GOOD AFTERNOON, HONORABLE MAYOR, DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS CLAY SHANE.

I'M THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE FOR THE CITY OF EL CAJON.

WE'RE VERY HAPPY HERE TO BE HERE TODAY TO CONTINUE OUR PRESENTATION OF THE FISCAL YEAR 24 25 ANNUAL BUDGET FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION.

WE'LL BEGIN WITH UPDATES FROM THE JUNE 11TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

HAPPY TO REPORT.

THERE HAVE BEEN NO MATERIAL CHANGES TO THE INFORMATION PROVIDED AT THAT MEETING.

THAT'S THE CONCLUSION OF THE UPDATES.

UM, IN TODAY'S PRESENTATION, WE'LL ALSO PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE WASTEWATER FUND, OTHER CITY FUNDS OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND ENTERTAIN ANY DISCUSSIONS YOU HAVE.

AND THEN AT THE END OF THE ITEM, UH, WE WILL SEEK ADOPTION OF THE 24 25 ANNUAL BUDGET.

WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE AUTUMN BERGER TO KICK OFF THE REMAINDER OF THE PRESENTATION.

GOOD AFTERNOON, HONORABLE MAYOR AND DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS AUTUMN BERGER.

I AM THE SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYST IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT, AND I AM HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT OUR 20 24 25 PRELIMINARY BUDGET HAS BEEN FINALIZED.

THIS IS PUBLISHED AND AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS MOMENT TO, UH, THANK OUR PARKS AND RECREATION MANAGER, HEATHER GRAHAM, OR SORRY, HEATHER CARTER, FOR ALLOWING US TO USE THIS BEAUTIFUL PHOTO SHE CAPTURED DURING THE WALL, THAT HEELS EVENT THIS PAST MARCH.

CONTINUING FROM OUR JUNE 11TH DISCUSSION.

TODAY WE'LL BE REVIEWING OUR NON-GENERAL FUNDS, STARTING WITH THE WASTEWATER FUND.

SO FOR FISCAL YEAR 25 PROPOSED, WE'RE LOOKING AT A BEGINNING FUND BALANCE OF $40.3 MILLION.

OUR REVENUES ARE 35.4 MILLION.

THESE ARE PRIMARILY A RESULT OF USER FEES, EXPENDITURES OF 49.2 MILLION.

WHILE THIS NUMBER DOES LOOK HIGH, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT IT DOES INCLUDE CAPITAL ACTIVITY OF THAT TOTAL.

THERE ARE $18.7 MILLION IN CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR WASTEWATER.

THAT LEAVES US WITH AN ENDING FUND BALANCE OF $26.5 MILLION.

NEXT, WE'LL LOOK AT THE SPECIAL REVENUE FUNDS.

THESE ARE OUR TOP FIVE ANNUAL FUNDS, STREET MAINTENANCE, GAS TAX, 4.3 MILLION, LOW MODERATE HOUSING PROJECTS, 3.2 MILLION, THE MAGNOLIA PERFORMING ARTS CENTER, JUST OVER A MILLION RECREATION SPECIAL PROGRAMS, APPROXIMATELY 650,000 AND LOCAL PUBLIC PUBLIC SAFETY, JUST OVER 600,000.

OUR SINGLE DEBT SERVICE FUND IS FOR OUR PENSION OBLIGATION BONDS AT $9.1 MILLION.

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NEXT, WE'LL LOOK AT OUR INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS.

THESE ARE PRIMARILY SERVICES.

THESE ARE PRIMARILY SERVICE FOR OTHER CITY FUNDS AND SERVICES.

OUR VEHICLE MAINTENANCE AT 2.6 MILLION AND OUR VEHICLE REPLACEMENT AT 1.5 MILLION.

NOW THE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT IS A MULTI-YEAR FUND.

SO THIS TOTAL IS A COMBINATION OF THE ESTIMATED CARRYOVER AS WELL AS THE NEW VEHICLE PURCHASE FOR FISCAL YEAR 25.

OUR SELF-INSURANCE THAT CONSISTS OF THE LIABILITY CLAIMS AND THE WORKERS' COMP AT JUST OVER 6 MILLION.

OUR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AT 4.3 MILLION AND OTHER POST-EMPLOYMENT BENEFITS AT $1.2 MILLION.

LOOKING AT OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS, WE CURRENTLY HAVE 48 EXISTING PROJECTS WITH A $90.9 MILLION COMBINED PROJECT BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 25.

WE ARE PROPOSING 10 NEW PROJECTS TOTALING 9.2 MILLION WITH EIGHT PROJECT AMENDMENTS TOTALING 6.8 MILLION IF APPROVED.

OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS WOULD CONSIST OF A TOTAL OF 58 PROJECTS AND A BUDGET OF $106.9 MILLION.

THESE ARE THE PROPOSED 25 NEW CAP.

THESE ARE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 25 10 NEW CAPITAL PROJECTS FOR THAT $9.2 MILLION.

YOU CAN SEE THAT A MAJORITY OF THESE ARE RELATED TO STREET IMPROVEMENTS.

THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS ASKED THAT ACTION BE TAKEN AS A SEPARATE MOTION PER AGENCY.

SO STAFF IS ASKING FOR THE FOLLOWING THREE RECOMMENDED ACTIONS.

FIRST ACTING AS A CITY COUNCIL TO ADOPT THE FISCAL 25 ANNUAL BUDGET, APPROVE AND ADOPT THE APPROPRIATIONS LIMIT, APPROVE THE FUND BALANCE DESIGNATION.

SECOND, ACTING AS THE HOUSING AUTHORITY TO ADOPT THE FISCAL 25 BUDGET, AND THIRD, ACTING AS A SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO ADOPT THE FISCAL 25 BUDGET.

THIS CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.

WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS YOU MAY HAVE AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

LEMME SEE IF ANY QUESTIONS DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANK YOU FOR COMING.

UM, ANY, UM, SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM? NO SPEAKER CARDS, SIR.

UM, DO WE NEED THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING? HOLD ON A SECOND.

MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.

UM, DISCUSSION OR, SO I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, UH, JUST, I APOLOGIZE, SIR.

THE MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

SORRY.

JUST A QUICK COMMENT FOR THE PUBLIC.

WE HAD A LONG PRESENTATION ABOUT OUR BUDGET, UH, I THINK A MONTH AGO.

UH, WE HAVE A BALANCED BUDGET HERE AT THE CITY.

WE HAVE A LARGE RESERVE, UM, FOR A RAINY DAY FUND.

AND THIS IS, I WANT TO THANK, UM, OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR IN ALL DEPARTMENTS FOR, FOR RUNNING THAT BALANCED BUDGET.

WE APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION, UM, MOVE ADOPTION, UH, AS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT, UH, ADOPTING FISCAL YEAR 20 24, 25 ANNUAL BUDGET APPROVING AND ADOPTING THE ANNUAL APPROPRIATIONS LIMIT FOR 24 25 AND APPROVING THE DESIGNATION OF THE GENERAL FUND BALANCES.

SO, I CAN'T PLEASE VOTE.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION ACTING AS HOUSING AUTHORITY BOARD OF DIRECTORS ADOPT A RESOLUTION TITLED RESOLUTION OF EL CAJON HOUSING AUTHORITY ADOPTING FISCAL YEAR 20 24 25.

BUDGET.

MOTION CARRIES BY A UNANIM VOTE.

AND MY LAST MOTION WILL BE ACTING ON AS THE SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE FORMER REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY BOARD OF DIRECTORS ADOPT THE RESOLUTION TITLED RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF EL CAJON AS THE SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE FORMER EL CAJON REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ADOPTING THE FISCAL YEAR 20 24 25.

BUDGET.

THANK CLAY.

THANK YOU TO THE WHOLE TEAM.

TO BE THE EL CAJON REPRESENTATIVE.

WE'RE

[15. Interview for City Committee RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council conducts an interview for a City of El Cajon representative on the Mission Trails Regional Park Citizens' Advisory Committee.]

ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS.

WE HAVE FIVE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

ITEM 15 IS AN INTERVIEW FOR THE MISSION TRAILS REGIONAL PARK COMMITTEE, AND WE ACTUALLY ONLY HAVE ONE APPLICANT

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SO, MR. PENWELL, WOULD YOU PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM? UH, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO TELL US ABOUT YOUR QUALIFICATIONS, AND THE COUNCIL MAY ASK YOU SOME FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS.

WELCOME.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS SCOTT PENWELL.

I'VE MADE APPLICATION TO BE ON THE MISSION TRAILS REGIONAL PARK CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

UH, I WAS ENCOURAGED TO DO SO BY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE AS EL CAJON DOES NOT HAVE A CURRENT REPRESENTATIVE ON THAT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

UH, MY QUALIFICATION, I'M A EL CAJON RESIDENT, BEEN HERE FOR 30 YEARS, UH, RAISED MY KIDS HERE, USED MISSION TRAILS SEVERAL TIMES.

UH, I WORKED FOR THE GOVERNMENT FEDERAL GOV, 30 YEARS, ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEER, UH, NAVY.

AND, UH, I'M WILLING TO WORK FOR THE CITY AND THE COUNCIL TO MAKE OUR NEEDS KNOWN TO THE CITIZEN ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR EL CAJON.

AND I'M WILLING TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UM, QUESTIONS? JUST A COMMENT.

THANK YOU FOR APPLYING.

I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE A LONG LINE OF PEOPLE APPLYING FOR THESE COMMITTEES, SO I NOTICED YEAH, WE APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO, TO GIVE BACK.

I'M HERE ASKING FOR YOUR NOMINATION TO DO THAT.

YEP.

UH, THANK YOU FOR APPLYING AS WELL BECAUSE THERE ACTUALLY IS A EL CAJON CONNECTION TO THE MISSION TRAILS REGIONAL PARK, UH, THAT IS THE NEW WATER RECYCLING PROGRAM HAS A, UH, BRINE LINE OR, OR A LEFTOVERS THAT GOES THROUGH MISSION TRAILS PARK.

AND IT WAS, UH, QUITE A NEGOTIATION WITH THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO BECAUSE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS, WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE'S A BREAK, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

SO IT'S, UH, IT REALLY DOES HAVE AN EL CAJON CONNECTION TO IT.

AND THANK YOU FOR WILLING TO BE A VOICE FOR EL CAJON.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT.

I'M INTERESTED IN ANYTHING THAT, UH, MIGHT HAVE AN EFFECT CITY TO PARK, UH, ANY, EITHER WAY, BOTH WAYS.

I'M, I'M LIAISON BETWEEN THE TWO IF I AM NOMINATED.

I THINK THE APPLICANT IS EXTREMELY WELL QUALIFIED, SO I'M READY TO MAKE A MOTION BEFORE YOU DO THAT.

I THINK OUR CITY MANAGER HAD A STATEMENT OR QUESTION.

I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT MR. PENWELL AND HIS WIFE BOTH ATTENDED THE, ONE OF THE TOWN HALL MEETINGS THAT WE JUST CONDUCTED IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS.

AND, UH, HIS INPUT WAS VERY VALUABLE AND HELPFUL THAT I'LL BE PRESENTING TO THE COUNCIL LATER ON.

ALRIGHT, GARY, UH, HOLD ON.

LET ME, UH, ARE THERE, UH, ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM? NO SPEAKER CARDS, SIR.

OKAY, THEN, UH, I'LL BRING IT BACK TO YOU, GARY.

UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPOINT MR. PENWELL TO THE COMMISSION.

CONGRATULATIONS MR. PENWELL.

UH, YOU KNOW, MR. PENWELL, I THINK WE HAVE TO ADMINISTER THE OATH OF OFFICE.

WE WILL ACTUALLY DO THAT AFTER THE MEETING, SIR, AFTER THE MEETING.

IS A REQUEST FOR AN ALLWAY STOP SIGN ON SANDALWOOD DRIVE AT APPLEWOOD DRIVE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR.

UH, ITEM 16

[16. All-Way Stop Sign Request on Sandalwood Drive at Applewood Drive RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council adopts the next Resolution, in order to establish permanent all-way stop signs on Sandalwood Drive at the intersection of Applewood Drive in order to enhance pedestrian and traffic safety.]

WILL STAFF PLEASE TELL US ABOUT THIS? MARIA? WELCOME.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS MARIO SANCHEZ, A CITY ENGINEER FOR THE ENGINEERING SERVICES DEPARTMENT.

I'M HERE THIS AFTERNOON TO TALK ABOUT AN ALWAYS STOP SIGN REQUEST AT, UH, SANDALWOOD DRIVE, AT THE INTERSECTION OF APPLEWOOD DRIVE.

SO, SANDALWOOD DRIVE IS BETWEEN TWO, UH, MAJOR ARTERIALS VALENTINE STREET AND MOLLISON AVENUE.

AND TO THE NORTH IS BROADWAY AVENUE.

TO THE SOUTH IS, UH, INTERSTATE EIGHT.

SANDALWOOD IS, UH, DRIVE IS USED AS A, AS A, AS A SMALL CUT THROUGH TO GET FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER.

AND IT SERVES, UH, THE SUBDIVISIONS, UH, ALL THOSE HOMES ABOVE, UH, SANDALWOOD, CEDAR APPLEWOOD DRIVE, AND BROCK WOOD DRIVE.

SO, UM, THIS CONCERN CAME IN FROM NEARBY RESIDENTS TO INVESTIGATE THE NEED FOR ANWAY STOP DUE TO CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, UH, SPEEDING, CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC AND THE OVERALL TRAFFIC SAFETY AT THAT INTERSECTION.

I HAVE A COUPLE PHOTOS, UH, THAT SHOW THE INTERSECTION ITSELF.

AND THIS IS A FEW, UH, PHOTO, UM, VIEWING WEST AT SAND WOOD DRIVE.

AND IT CARRIES A, ABOUT APPROXIMATELY

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2100 VEHICLES PER DAY.

SO IT'S REPRESENTATIVE OF, OF A RESIDENTIAL STREET.

AND THIS IS A VIEW, UH, LOOKING EAST AS YOU ARE GOING TOWARDS MALISON AVENUE ON SAND WOOD DRIVE.

THERE'S, I JUST WANNA POINT OUT, THERE'S A CURVE THAT YOU, IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO SEE IF YOU EXIT, UH, APPLEWOOD DRIVE FROM THE, FROM THE NORTH.

AND IT'S DIFFICULT TO SEE CARS COMING FROM GOING, UH, WESTBOUND.

AND SANDALWOOD CARRIES ABOUT, UH, 420 ODD VEHICLES PER DAY TO WAY TRAFFIC.

AND, UH, THIS IS A VIEW AT THE INTERSECTION.

SO, UH, THE ENGINEERING SERVICES DEPARTMENT, WE LOOK AT THE HISTORY, ACCIDENT HISTORY, UM, MEASURE THE VOLUME AND LOOK AT SITE DISTANCE.

AND THERE'S ROUGHLY IN THE NECK, UH, THE LAST FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

THERE'S ONE, UH, INTERSECTION RELATED ACCIDENT.

AND, UH, WE FOLLOW THE CALIFORNIA MANUAL AND UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES.

AND WE ALSO USE A POINT SYSTEM KIND OF MODELED BY THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO TO DETERMINE, UH, ALWAYS STOPS.

SO A MINIMUM OF 30 POINTS OUTTA 50 POINTS IS REQUIRED TO, FOR AN ALWAYS STOP.

BUT, UH, SPECIAL CONDITIONS, UH, SITE DISTANCE IS A OVERWHELMING FACTOR TO, UM, INSTALL AND ALWAYS STOP HERE.

AND IT SERVES AS A, UM, AS A KIND OF A, AS A SPEED BREAKER, UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, SLOWING DOWN TRAFFIC AS YOU APPROACH THIS INTERSECTION.

AND IT ALSO PROVIDES SAFETY FOR VEHICLES WISHING TO EXIT SANDALWOOD DRIVE.

SO THIS IS OUR PROPOSED INSTALLATION.

THERE'S EXISTING STOP SIGN ON SANDALWOOD DRIVE, BUT THERE ARE NO STOP ON, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, ON APPLEWOOD DRIVE, BUT THERE'S NO STOP SIGNS ON APPLE.

SO, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS TO ADOPT, UH, APPROVE THE INSTALLATION OF PERMANENT, PERMANENT ALWAYS STOPS AT THIS, THIS PARTICULAR INTERSECTION.

AND I'LL OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS FOR MARIO? YES, MR. SANCHEZ.

UM, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN ADD, UM, PAINTED RED CURBS ON THE, UH, SANDALWOOD AT APPLEWOOD? I KNOW THAT THAT IS, UM, MUCH APPRECIATED ON MOISON, UH, AT SPINEL, AND THEY HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM.

SO I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THAT IS AN ISSUE IN THAT PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD OF PEOPLE PARKING RIGHT UP TOWARDS THE CORNERS AND, UM, CREATING, UH, VISUAL BARRIERS FOR THOSE COMING OUT ON APPLEWOOD.

I'LL NOTE THAT, THAT WE, WE CAN, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT, UM, FOR PEOPLE AT OUR PARKING AT THE INTERSECTION, WHICH THEY SHOULDN'T BE, BUT YEAH, WE CAN ALWAYS ADD RED CURB AT THE, AT THE POINTS THERE.

PERFECT.

HI, MARIO.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ANOTHER CONSIDERATION SET OF A RED CURB, UH, NO PARKING OF VEHICLES OVER SIX FEET.

THAT STILL PRESERVES A PARKING SPACE, BUT IT, UH, ALLOWS CARS TO PARK THERE, WHICH DON'T OBSTRUCT YOUR VIEW AROUND THE CORNER.

I DID NOTICE THAT YOU SAID THE MINIMUM CORNER SITE DISTANCE TO 275 FEET IS DESIRABLE AND THAT THIS HAS LESS.

CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT YOUR ESTIMATE OF THE YEAH, WE, WE MEASURED ABOUT, UH, LESS THAN A HUNDRED FEET FOR THE SITE DISTANCE.

IF, IF YOU'RE COMING, MAKING A SOUTHBOUND, UH, TO RIGHT OR LEFT TURN THERE.

SO IT'S LESS THAN THE DESIRABLE, UH, SITE.

UM, YEAH, SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S ONLY 17 POINTS OF THE MINIMUM 30, I THINK FOR ME THAT IS ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY, UH, THE PROJECT GOING FORWARD.

UM, ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM? NO SPEAKER CARDS, SIR.

ALRIGHT, LEAVE IT BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE A MOTION OR MOVE ADOPTION.

MAYOR, MAY I HAVE YOUR VOTE PLEASE? MINE TRY AGAIN.

THERE WE GO.

ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM 17 IS FOR THE THIRD AMENDMENT TO THE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT WITH LIVE NATION, AND I'LL ASK STAFF TO TELL US ABOUT THIS.

[17. Third Amendment to Management Agreement with Live Nation – Incentive Bonus RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council authorizes the City Manager to execute the Third Amendment to the Management Agreement between the City and Live Nation Worldwide, Inc.]

HEY, DAVID.

HELLO, PARIS.

HELLO, HOW ARE YOU? WELCOME, THANK YOU.

UM, TO, UH, PRESENT A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE CITY'S AGREEMENT WITH LIVE NATION AND TO PROVIDE YOU WITH AN UPDATE REGARDING THE MAGNOLIA'S PERFORMANCE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

PARIS AND I ARE HERE TODAY TO,

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SO, AS QUICK BACKGROUND, IN FEBRUARY OF 2018, THE CITY ENTERED INTO A FIVE YEAR AGREEMENT, UM, WITH LIVE NATION TO MANAGE AND OPERATE THE MAGNOLIA, A 1200 SEAT, UM, LIVE ENTERTAINMENT VENUE ON BEHALF OF THE CITY IN MARCH OF 2023.

THE CITY EXTENDED THAT, UH, AGREEMENT BY TWO YEARS TO ACCOUNT FOR THE NEARLY TWO YEARS THAT WERE ENCLOSED DURING COVID.

THE TERM CURRENT TERM GOES THROUGH AUGUST OF 2026.

SO THIS SLIDE SHOWS, UM, THE TARGET NUMBER OF SHOWS AS OUTLINED IN THE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT AND THE, OR COMPARED WITH THE ACTUAL NUMBER OF SHOWS.

YOU CAN SEE THAT LAST YEAR WE HOSTED, UM, 80 SHOWS AT THE VENUE, AND THIS YEAR WE'RE ON TRACK TO HOST 89 SHOWS AT THE VENUE.

SO ABOUT 24 SHOWS BETTER THAN WHAT THE, UH, MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT SPECIFIES.

THE NEXT SLIDE SHOWS THE MAGNOLIA'S ADJUSTED OPERATING INCOME.

THAT'S THE, UH, REVENUE MINUS SHOW AND FIXED EXPENSES.

I'LL BE REFERRING TO THIS, UM, FORMULA THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION AS THE A OI.

THE LIGHT BLUE BARS SHOW THE PROFORMA A OI AS REFLECTED IN THE AGREEMENT.

THE PROFORMA IS A FINANCIAL FORECAST FOR THE MAGNOLIA THAT WAS DEVELOPED WHEN WE, UM, WE'RE PREDICTING HOW WELL THE FACILITY WOULD DO.

THE DARK BLUE BARS SHOW THE MAGNOLIA'S ACTUAL A OI.

THE CURRENT AGREEMENT SPECIFIES THAT THE CITY WILL SHARE 30% OF THE PROFIT WHEN LIVE NATION EXCEEDS THE PRO FORMA A OI AND 50% WHEN THE A OI EXCEEDS $0.

AND SO, AS YOU CAN SEE, EXCUSE ME, I PUT HERE IN THE BRACKETS ON THE LEFT, UM, SO THAT YOU CAN KIND OF HAVE A VISUAL REPRESENTATION AS TO HOW THE AGREEMENT'S WRITTEN.

SO UNDER THE CURRENT INCENTIVE BONUS FORMULA, THE CITY OWES LIVE NATION APPROXIMATELY $720,000 TO ROUGHLY $145,000 PER YEAR ON AVERAGE FOR THE FIRST FIVE YEARS.

UM, NOW THAT WE'VE OPENED THE FACILITY AND WE KIND OF HAVE AN ACCURATE AND COMPLETE OPERATING PICTURES OF HOW THE FACILITY'S PERFORMING, IT'S PRUDENT TO REVISIT THE INCENTIVE BONUS AND TO FIND SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, MORE FINANCIALLY BALANCED FOR BOTH THE CITY AND LIVE NATION.

SO THE CITY AND LIVE NATION HAS NEGOTIATED, UM, SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THE INCENTIVE BONUS AND MANAGEMENT FEE OUTLINED IN THE AGREEMENT.

THERE WE GO.

SO, UNDER THIS SUGGESTED CHANGE, LIVE NATION WOULD BECOME ELIGIBLE FOR THE INCENTIVE BONUS AFTER THE BREAK EVEN POINT UNDER THE NEW DEFINITION OF AN A OI, WHICH, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THIS GRAPHIC, INCLUDES A MA MANAGEMENT FEE.

OOPS.

THEREFORE, THE CITY WOULD NOT SHARE ANY PART OF THE INCENTIVE BONUS WITH LIVE NATION UNTIL THE CITY IS ACTUALLY ACHIEVES PROFITABILITY.

AFTER THE BREAK EVEN POINT, THE CITY WOULD SHARE 50% OF THE INCENTIVE BONUS WITH LIVE NATION.

AND THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE PROPOSED NEW A OI FORMULA AND THE PROPOSED BREAKEVEN POINT WHERE PROFIT SHARING WOULD TAKE PLACE.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE, THE FLOOR WHERE WE START SHARING PROFIT IS WELL ABOVE THE ZERO MARK BECAUSE IT INCLUDES THE MANAGEMENT FEE.

NOW, IF THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTS A PROPOSED AMENDMENT, THE PRIOR BALANCE OWED TO LIVE NATION WOULD BE ADJUSTED TO THIS NEW BREAKEVEN POINT AND THE CITY WOULDN'T OWE THE, UH, THE $722,000 THAT WE CURRENTLY OWE UNDER THE ARRANGEMENT.

SO THIS TABLE DEPICTS A NEW A OI EXPECTED PROFIT SHARING FOR THE FIRST FIVE YEARS.

AND, UM, AS I MENTIONED, THE, UM, THE PROFIT SHARING DROPS TO ZERO UNDER THIS, THIS, UH, PROPOSED AMENDMENT.

SO DUE TO THE INCREASED COST OF RUNNING THE BUSINESS, LIVE NATION IS REQUESTING AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE MANAGEMENT FEE TO REFLECT THE RISING COST OF INFLATION.

THE CHANGE, UH, WOULD INCREASE THE ANNUAL MANAGEMENT FEE BY ROUGHLY 6.5% OF THE ANNUAL FEE, OR BRINGING THE ANNUAL FEE TO $400,000 THIS NEXT FISCAL YEAR WITH AN ONGOING ANNUAL ADJUSTMENT OF 3%.

NOW, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE PARIS UP TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE EXCITING STUFF HAPPENING AT THE MAGNOLIA.

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THE MAGNOLIA HAS HAD A BUSY YEAR WITH 89 EVENTS IN TOTAL.

WE'VE HOSTED STAR SHOWS LIKE KEVIN HART, JUAN, AND LEVY FAMILY FRIENDLY AND COMMUNITY EVENTS LIKE STORY PRIVATES, JIVE DANCE STUDIOS, PLUS AN ARRAY OF RENTALS.

OUR MISSION IS TO GROW AND DIVERSIFY THE ACTS AT THE VENUE AND TO HAVE MORE CONCERTS, MORE COMEDIANS, AND MORE COMMUNITY EVENTS WITH THE OBJECTIVE OF BRINGING MORE PEOPLE INTO THE EL CAJON COMMUNITY.

NOT JUST TO SEE OUR SHOWS, BUT TO EXPLORE ALL THE EL CAJON HAS TO OFFER.

BRINGING MORE AX MEANS BRINGING MORE PEOPLE TO THE CITY, AND WE STRIVE TO ENSURE EACH FAN IS RECEIVING A BEST IN CLASS EXPERIENCE.

WE SURVEY EVERY FAN WHO BUYS A TICKET FOR A SHOW SO THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON THEIR EXPERIENCE AT THE VENUE YEAR OVER YEAR.

WE CONTINUE TO RECEIVE EXTREMELY HIGH SATISFACTION RATES FOR BOTH THE VENUE AND OUR STAFF.

AND I, UM, PROVIDED THAT STATISTIC HERE.

ADDITIONALLY, WE MAINTAIN A 4.6 STARS ON GOOGLE REVIEWS.

WE'RE EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE WERE INFORMED THIS WEEKEND THAT WE HAVE BEEN VOTED BY THE SAN DIEGO UNION TRIBUNE'S READERS POLL, SAN DIEGO'S FAVORITE ENTERTAINMENT VENUE FOR 2024.

HEY, CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU, .

ALLOWING OUR GUESTS TO PROVIDE US WITH DIRECT FEEDBACK HELPS US UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY LOVE ABOUT THE VENUE OF THE AREAS OF OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO IMPROVE AND ALLOWS US TO MEET THE FANS' EXPECTATIONS.

SORRY.

LOOKING AHEAD, WE'RE THRILLED TO ANNOUNCE ANOTHER BUSY YEAR ALREADY.

WE HAVE 53 EVENTS ON THE BOOKS FROM JULY THROUGH THE END OF DECEMBER.

WITH THAT NUMBER CONTINUING TO GROW EVERY WEEK WITH AN ARRAY OF GENRES FROM COUNTRY, UH, COMEDY, LATIN METAL, AND ROCK.

WE BELIEVE IT WILL BE ANOTHER EXCITING YEAR FOR THE VENUE.

MYSELF AND THE LIVE NATION TEAM ARE EXTRAORDINARILY HONORED AND PROUD TO BRING THIS BEST IN CLASS VENUE TO EL CAJON, AND WE HOPE TO HAVE A LONG PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY AHEAD OF US.

OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, LET'S START WITH QUESTIONS.

LET, MAYBE I MISSED IT.

HOW LONG IS THE CURRENT CONTRACT FOR THAT? WE'RE WE'RE, THAT'S ON THE TABLE.

SO IT'S, UM, IT'S A FIVE YEAR TERM AND WE'VE EXTENDED IT BY TWO YEARS.

SO IT TAKES IT OUT TO AUGUST, 2026.

SO TWO YEARS, A TWO YEAR EXTENSION.

SO IT'S TOTAL SEVEN YEARS FOR THE FIRST TERM.

AND THEN THIS IS MAYBE OFF TOPIC, BUT WERE WE ABLE TO GET MAGNOLIA ONTO THE P BID BOARD? HAS THAT, IS THAT HAPPENING YET? IS THAT OFF? IS THAT OFF TOPIC? ARE WE ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT THAT? THEY NEED TO AMEND ONE OF THE P BID RULES.

SO IT'S IN THE WORKS.

I BELIEVE IT'S, IT'S IN THE WORKS AND MS. LANDON HAS A, UH, THERE'S A PART ON THE AGENDA WHERE THERE'S A REPORT FROM THE MAGNOLIA THAT'S PART OF THE STANDING AGENDA NOW, SO, OKAY.

UM, SHE'S, SHE'S WORKING HER WAY ON.

WE WANT YOU ON THERE, .

I WANNA BE ON THERE.

GOOD.

, THAT'S ALL MY QUESTIONS.