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WE'LL DO THE FLAGS LOOP AND WE'LL SIGN.
FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
WHAT? YES, IT'S ROLL CALL PLEASE.
COMMISSIONER POLLAK ROOT RU PRESENT.
COMMISSIONER, SOLE PRESENT, COMMISSIONER EDISON PRESENT AND COMMISSIONER MURRO PRESENT.
AND FOR THE RECORD, COMMISSIONER SERCO IS ABSENT TODAY.
[CHAIRPERSON’S WELCOME]
TO THE EL CAJON PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.THIS MEETING IS BEING LIVE STREAMED ON THE CITY OF EL CAJON WEBSITE.
APPEALS AND FINAL DECISIONS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MADE THIS EVENING MUST BE FILED IN WRITING WITH THE CITY CLERK BEFORE 5:00 PM FRIDAY, JUNE 28TH, 2024.
AND MUST INCLUDE A PAYMENT OF A FILING FEE.
IF YOU REACH TO SPEAK ON EITHER AN, EITHER A NON AGENDA ITEM OR AN AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT, PLEASE FILL OUT THE REQUEST TO SPEAK CARD LOCATED BY THE AGENDA AND TURN IT INTO THE SECRETARY WHO WILL CALL YOU UP TO SPEAK.
WHEN THE AGENDA ITEM COMES UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, WE ASK YOU TO GIVE US THE SPELLING OF YOUR FIRST AND LAST NAME.
SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.
THE DISPLAY ON THE PODIUM, AS WELL AS ON THE OTHER MONITORS IN THE CHAMBERS WILL SHOW THE TIME COUNTING DOWN AT 30 SECONDS.
THE PODIUM CLOCK WILL READ OUT.
READOUT WILL TURN RED SIGNIFYING YOU OF 30 SECONDS UNTIL THE END OF YOUR TIME.
APPLICANTS AND INDIVIDUALS REPRESENTING GROUPS OF PEOPLE MAY BE ALLOWED TO MORE TIME IF APPROPRIATE.
ALL PUBLIC HEARING COMMENTS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO ME AS THE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION AND NOT TO INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF MEMBERS.
IF YOU HAVEN'T DONE ALREADY, PLEASE TURN ALL ELECTRONIC DEVICES OFF PURSUANT TO CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION 1 1 4 DASH SEVEN NINE A COMMISSIONER WHO HAS RECEIVED EVIDENCE RELATED TO A MATTER BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION OTHER THAN AN UNESCORTED VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE SUCH INFORMATION AT THE HEARING.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL TAKE COMMENTS FROM ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ON ANY ITEM OF BUSINESS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE COMMISSION.
THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA UNDER STATE LAW.
NO ACTION CAN BE TAKEN ON THESE ITEMS BROUGHT FORWARD UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT EXCEPT TO REFER TO THE STAFF ADMINISTRATION OR PLACE IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
IS THERE ANYONE IN THE COMMISSION WHO IT TO ADDRESS? OH WAIT.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION UNDER A PUBLIC COMMENT? PLEASE COME FORWARD AS I SEE NOBODY.
UM, WERE THERE ANY, UM, AND THERE WERE, THERE WERE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS SUBMITTED PER, UH OH.
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FIRST ITEM ON THE CALENDAR.UH, SO THE CONSENT CALENDAR, A SINGLE MOTION WILL COVER ALL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
DOES THE COMMISSION WISH TO PULL ANY CONSENT KELLER ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION? NOPE.
DOES THE STAFF WISH TO PULL ANY ITEMS? NO.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
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TO THE FIRST ITEM ON THE PUBLIC HEARING IS, LET'S SEE THAT THE FIRST ITEM, THE ATHLETIC TRAINING FACILITY.THANK YOU, HONORABLE COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS SABLE BELTRAN AND I'M AN ASSISTANT PLANNER WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
THE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS A REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AN ATHLETIC TRAINING FACILITY AT 1 9 5 5 CORDELL COURT AS SUBMITTED BY SEAFORD INVESTMENT GROUP LLC.
THE SITE IS LOCATED AT THE NORTHERLY TERMINUS OF CORDELL COURT WITH THE BOUNDARY FOR THE SITE SHOWN IN WHITE.
THE ADJACENT USES INCLUDE MANUFACTURING TO THE NORTH, SOUTH, AND EAST, AND AN INDUSTRIAL PARK TO THE WEST.
THE SITE IS APPROXIMATELY ONE AND A HALF ACRES IN SIZE AND INCLUDES A 21,000 SQUARE FOOT
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BUILDING, 60 PARKING STALLS AND LANDSCAPING.THE PROPOSED USE WILL BE LOCATED IN AN APPROXIMATELY 6,000 SQUARE FOOT SUITE.
THE GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATION IS INDUSTRIAL PARK, AND THE SITE HAS A CORRESPONDING ZONE OF M MANUFACTURING IN THE M ZONE.
SPECIAL TRAINING AND SCHOOLING CONDUCTED INDOORS MAY BE PERMITTED.
HOWEVER, IF THE SCHOOL PROVIDES INSTRUCTION TO PERSONS UNDER THE AGE OF 18, THEN A MINOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED.
THE SITE FALLS UNDER SPECIFIC PLAN OR SP NUMBER 4 0 3, WHICH IMPLEMENTS SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT AREA NUMBER SIX AND REQUIRES THAT ALL PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS BE DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE PARKING AT A RATIO OF ONE SPACE PER 300 SQUARE FEET OF GROSS FLOOR AREA.
THE SUBJECT SITE AND ADJACENT WESTERLY PARCEL WERE DEVELOPED UNDER SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN PERMIT NUMBER 1330, WHICH AUTHORIZED AN INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS ALSO LOCATED WITHIN SAFETY ZONE SIX OF THE GILLESPIE FIELD AIRPORT LAND USE COMPATIBILITY PLAN, WHICH LISTS INDOOR SMALL ASSEMBLY AS A COMPATIBLE USE.
THE APPLICANT PROPOSES TO CONVERT APPROXIMATELY 6,000 SQUARE FEET OF WAREHOUSE SPACE IN AN EXISTING INDUSTRIAL BUILDING TO AN ATHLETIC TRAINING FACILITY.
INSTRUCTION WILL INCLUDE STRENGTH TRAINING, STRETCHING, AND YOGA, AND SMALL GROUP CLASSES OF AROUND 10 PARTICIPANTS AND WILL TAKE PLACE DURING TYPICAL BUSINESS HOURS.
SP 4 0 3 REQUIRES A PARKING RATIO OF ONE TO 300, WHICH REQUIRES 20 SPACES FOR THIS SUITE.
THE APPLICANT HAS DEMONSTRATED CAPACITY FOR 27 PARKING SPACES.
THE APPLICANT WILL BE REQUIRED TO OBTAIN A BUILDING PERMIT TO CONVERT THE OCCUPANCY FROM A WAREHOUSE TO AN ATHLETIC TRAINING FACILITY.
AND TO ENSURE ADEQUATE BATHROOM FACILITIES ARE PROVIDED, PROPOSED OPERATIONS INCLUDE TWO OFFICE EMPLOYEES AND UP TO FOUR TRAINERS ON SITE.
NO CHANGES ARE PROPOSED TO THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING.
ADJACENT SUITES INCLUDE LIGHT MANUFACTURING AND WAREHOUSING, AND THE PROPOSED ATHLETIC TRAINING USE IS NOT ANTICIPATED TO CREATE ANY COMPATIBILITY ISSUES PURSUANT TO ALCOHOL.
MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION 17 5 0 6 OH PLANNING COMMISSION SHALL CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS IN ORDER TO MAKE A DETERMINATION FOR ITEM A GENERAL PLAN CONSISTENCY.
THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND SP NUMBER 4 0 3 BECAUSE THE AREA IS DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE LESS INTENSIVE INDUSTRIAL USES, INCLUDING PROCESS, OFFICE USES AND OTHER HARMONIOUS LAND USES SUCH AS SPECIAL TRAINING AND SCHOOLING.
AS IT RELATES TO ITEMS B AND C, THE EXISTING SITE PLAN AND BUILDING DESIGN WERE APPROVED AND DEVELOPED IN ACCORDANCE WITH SP NUMBER 4 0 3 AND SDP NUMBER 1330, WHICH ANTICIPATE PROCESS OFFICE USES NOT TYPICALLY ALLOWED IN THE M ZONE AND PLAN FOR PARKING AT A RATIO OF ONE SPACE TO 300 SQUARE FEET OF GROSS FOUR AREA.
THE PROPOSED SPECIAL TRAINING AND SCHOOLING FACILITY WILL NOT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE.
SO LONG AS THE CLASS SIZES REMAIN SMALL AT APPROXIMATELY 10 STUDENTS AND THE CLASSES ARE CONDUCTED WITHIN THE EXISTING BUILDING, THE EXISTING WAREHOUSE WILL BE SAFELY CONVERTED INTO A SPACE TO ACCOMMODATE SPECIAL TRAINING AND SCHOOLING THROUGH A BUILDING PERMIT, AND WILL MEET THE ATHLETIC AND TRAINING NEEDS OF INDIVIDUALS UNDER 18 YEARS OF AGE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
STAFF DETERMINE THAT THE PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM CQA ACCORDING TO SECTION 15, 303 CLASS THREE OF THE CA GUIDELINES, WHICH INCLUDES AN EXEMPTION FOR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS NOT EXCEEDING 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
THE PROPOSED SPECIAL TRAINING AND SCHOOLING USE IS PROPOSED WITHIN THE EXISTING BUILDING STAFF, THEREFORE RECOMMEND THAT PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT THE RESOLUTIONS TO APPROVE THE CQA EXEMPTION AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 2024 DASH 0 0 0 3 SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT AND WERE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
WERE THERE ANY, UH, CARDS SUBMITTED ON THIS FORM OR NO? IS IT? YES, WE RECEIVED ONE SPEAKER CARD.
AND DOES THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UM, FOR ABOUT THIS? NO, NOT AT ALL.
SO JUST OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING TO, CAN WE OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING TO HEAR THAT THE SPEAKER CARD PLEASE IF I CAN HAVE MR. JASON SEIFER.
UM, I AGREE TO THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE PRESENTED FOR ME TO, UH, OBTAIN A BUILDING PERMIT AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS MOVE OUR NEW TENANT IN.
HAVE A QUESTION, UH, MR. SEA? SURE.
WHY ARE THE CHILDREN? UM, THE, IT'S, THEY, IT'S INCLUDING PEOPLE UNDER 18.
UH, SO IT'S, THAT WAS THE CATCH.
I MEAN, THERE ARE, THERE WILL BE STUDENTS OVER 18 AS WELL.
SO, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE, YEAH, THE, THAT'S ONE OF THE EXTENSIONS TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS THAT IT'S A TRAINING CENTER, BUT ALSO THEY HAVE PEOPLE UNDER 18.
SO THAT'S LIKE THAT LITTLE ATTACHMENT TO
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IT.I GUESS WHAT I'M THINKING IS THAT USUALLY CHILDREN UNDER 18 ARE NOT ABLE TO SIGN A CONTRACT, SO SOMEBODY WHO'S RESPONSIBLE WILL HAVE TO SIGN A CONTRACT FOR THEM.
SO IT IS OPEN TO ADULTS AS WELL? EXACTLY.
AND, UM, UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR YOU.
YOU, YOU HAVE AN LLC, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
I, I, I LOOKED ON THE SECRETARY OF STATE, UH, WEBPAGE.
AND THERE WAS A STATEMENT OF FACT THAT WASN'T, UH, REPORTED IN JULY OF 2023.
OH, HOW WEIRD THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE MISSING THAT INFORMATION REGARDING THE OFFICERS AND, UH, OH, YEAH, I DIDN'T GET AN EMAIL ABOUT IT, SO YEAH, I'LL CONTACT THEM TOMORROW AND MAKE SURE JUST A LITTLE FORM.
I DO, I THINK I CAN DO IT ONLINE AND YES, YOU CAN DO IT ONLINE.
YEAH, I'LL GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF RIGHT AWAY.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, NOW IT'S TWO QUESTIONS.
IS THERE ANY INFORMATION FROM STAFF REGARDING THE LLC? UM, THE LLC WOULD'VE BEEN IDENTIFIED IN THE DISCLOSURE STATEMENT.
UH, SO THE PURPOSE OF THAT IS JUST TO IDENTIFY ANY POTENTIAL CONFLICTS OF INTEREST BETWEEN THE DECISION MAKERS AND THE APPLICANT.
UM, SO NO CONCERNS FROM STAFF WITH REGARDS TO, UH, THAT INFORMATION VERY WELL.
AND THEN, UH, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR COMING.
UH, AND THANK YOU FOR, I WISH THIS WAS AROUND WHEN I WAS A KID,
UM, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, I'M, I'M, I'M ALL FOR THIS, IT IS JUST I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST WHERE CERTAIN BUSINESSES IN CERTAIN CITIES, IT WOULD BLEED INTO THE PARKING LOT.
THAT'S NOT GONNA HAPPEN, RIGHT? EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE INDOORS.
NO, NO, I DON'T, UH, MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH THIS, MY CHIL MY CHILDREN, UH, WERE INVOLVED IN CHEER FORCE, USED TO BE CALLED MAVERICKS.
THEY'VE BEEN HERE IN EL CAJON FOR LIKE 20 SOME YEARS.
UH, AND THEY ACTUALLY LEAN, I LEANED ON THEM ABOUT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
SO I WAS KIND OF PREPARED A LITTLE BIT FOR WHAT I WAS GETTING MYSELF INTO BECAUSE THEY HAD TO APPLY FOR THE SAME THING.
AND THEY, IT'S ALMOST THE EXACT, LIKE THE PLOT PLAN THAT THEY HAD, THEY SET IT UP THE SAME WAY.
THERE IS A ROLLUP DOOR IN THE BACK, BUT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S CONCRETE.
SO THE, WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE DOING IS PRETTY MUCH HAS TO BE INDOORS.
UM, THERE'LL BE SOME, PROBABLY, I'M SURE SOME PADDED FLOORING JUST AS THERE WAS CHEER FORCE IS LIKE A COMPETITIVE CHEER GYMNASTICS BASICALLY.
UH, SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO ANYTHING, ANY PART OF THAT OUT IN THE PARKING LOT.
JUST, WHAT ARE YOU DOING THE CONSTRUCTION THEN ON THE, THE NEW BUILDING TO BRING THE UH, NO, THEY'RE JUST, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GET IT TO MAKE SURE, I MEAN, THE, THE MAIN PART WAS JUST MAKING SURE WE WERE IN COMPLIANCE WITH, YOU KNOW, PARKING RESTROOMS. UM, BUT THERE IS, THERE THE TIS THERE'S NO TIS THERE'S, I MEAN, I'M, I'M IN CONSTRUCTION.
UM, BUT YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY JUST WANNA MOVE IN.
SO, AND I, THEY, I CAN'T GIVE THEM A GREEN LIGHT TO GO IN UNTIL WE'VE COMPLETED THIS PROCESS.
AND IS THIS THE JIBE THAT WAS A NEW LOCATION FOR JIBE OR, OR WHAT WAS THEY? I BELIEVE PRESENTLY AND FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME, THEY'VE BEEN LOCATED IN, UH, BUTCHER PARKWAY, I THINK, I THINK IT'S, NO, I THINK IT'S, THEY'RE CHULA VISTA NATIONAL CITY, I BELIEVE.
I HAVE TWO NEW TENANTS COMING IN, SO I GET OH WOW.
THEM CONFUSED FROM WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM.
BUT REALLY GOOD PEOPLE, UH, IT'S A FAMILY OWNED BUSINESS, OWNED AND OPERATED.
THEY'RE VERY, I MEAN, THEY'RE WATCHING RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? THEY'RE VERY FIRED UP AND I MEAN, THEY, THEY ATTENDED ONLINE, UH, THE COUNCIL MEETING PREVIOUS TO THIS ONE.
JUST TO KIND OF SEE HOW THIS GOES.
THEY'RE VERY FIRED UP ABOUT BEING THERE, SO, UM, VERY ENTHUSIASTIC AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING 'EM IN THEIR PLACE.
ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOPE.
SO WE CAN ENC CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT.
MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
ANY, WANNA MAKE A STAB AT THIS ONE? I THINK THIS IS A GREAT THING FOR KIDS.
UM, I WISH IT WAS AROUND, LIKE I SAID, I THINK WISH IT WAS AROUND WHEN I WAS A KID.
THEY DIDN'T HAVE THESE TYPE OF THINGS, SO, UM, I, I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF IT.
UM, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO WAIT.
WHERE'D IT GO? IT JUST WENT AWAY.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE CUP 2020 2 4 0 0 3 SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS ALL SECOND.
THAT ALL IN FAVOR? MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING ME INFORMATION NOW ONTO THE NEXT.
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IF I KNEW HOW TO LOCK MY COMPUTER, IT'D BE A LOT EASIER.[Public Hearing Item 3]
ONTO THE NEXT CAMPTHE ITEM BEFORE YOU IS A REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A KENNEL LOCATED AT 1506 PIONEER WAY, AS SUBMITTED BY MOLLY KRUM WIDE.
THE SITE IS LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF PIONEER WAY, APPROXIMATELY 650 FEET SOUTH OF WEST BRADLEY AVENUE WITH THE BOUNDARY FOR THE SITE SHOWN IN WHITE.
THE ADJACENT USES INCLUDE CONTRACT CONSTRUCTION SERVICES TO THE NORTH AND WEST AND MIS, EXCUSE ME, MISCELLANEOUS MANUFACTURING USES TO THE SOUTH AND EAST.
THE SITE IS APPROXIMATELY HALF AN ACRE IN SIZE AND INCLUDES A 2000 SQUARE FOOT WAREHOUSE BUILDING A 995 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE BUILDING AND SEVEN PARKING STALLS.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED IN THE MANUFACTURING ZONE AND HAS A CORRESPONDING GENERAL PLAN LAND USE DESIGNATION OF INDUSTRIAL PARK.
IN THE M ZONE, A KENNEL MAY BE PERMITTED BY A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN SAFETY ZONE THREE OF THE GILLESPIE FIELD AIRPORT LAND USE COMPATIBILITY PLAN, WHICH LISTS A KENNEL AS A COMPATIBLE USE.
THE PROJECT PROPOSES CONVERTING AN EXISTING WAREHOUSE BUILDING TO A KENNEL AND ADDING APPROXIMATELY 4,300 SQUARE FEET OF OUTDOOR PLAY AREA.
THE PLAY AREA WILL INCLUDE TURF AND A SMALL PLAY POND AND WILL BE ENCLOSED WITH AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE TO LIMIT VISIBILITY AND NOISE.
SERVICES WILL INCLUDE GROOMING, OBEDIENCE TRAINING AND THE ACCESSORY SALE OF PET SUPPLIES.
THE ZONING CODE DOES NOT HAVE A SPECIFIC PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR KENNELS.
HOWEVER, SEVEN SPACES ARE PROPOSED.
THE KENNELS CURRENT LOCATION AT FOUR 12 FRENCH STREET WAS ALSO APPROVED WITH SEVEN PARKING SPACES.
SINCE THE MAJORITY OF CUSTOMERS ONLY BRIEFLY VISIT THE SITE FOR PICKUP AND DROP OFF, CUSTOMER PARKING DEMAND WILL BE LOW.
IF IT IS DETERMINED THAT MORE PARKING STALLS ARE NECESSARY, PARKING CAN BE EXPANDED ON SITE AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY ALSO CONSIDER ON STREET PARKING STALLS ON PIONEER WAY ADJACENT TO THE SITE AS ACCEPTABLE FOR ACCOMMODATING ADDITIONAL DEMAND.
OPERATIONAL IMPACTS ARE NOT ANTICIPATED WITH THE NORMAL CONDUCT OF A KENNEL IN AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE, EXCEPT FOR A LIMITED AMOUNT OF NOISE AND ODORS.
THE INSTALLATION OF AN EIGHT FOOT SCREENING FENCE FOR OUTDOOR PLAY AREAS WILL MINIMIZE VISIBILITY AND REDUCE NOISE FROM BARKING.
DOGS AND ANIMAL WASTE WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE CONTAINED AND PROPERLY DISPOSED OF TO ENSURE THAT WASTE DOES NOT ENTER THE STORM DRAIN SYSTEM.
AND TO ENSURE THAT ODORS ARE MINIMIZED.
STAFF RECEIVED ONE PUBLIC COMMENT WHICH EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT ODORS FROM THE EXISTING SEPTIC BUSINESS AT THE SITE.
ALTHOUGH THE SEPTIC BUSINESS HAS OPERATED FOR MANY YEARS AND IS SEPARATE FROM THE KENNEL OPERATIONS BEING CONSIDERED HERE, STAFF WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THE FOOTPRINT OF THE SEPTIC BUSINESS WILL BE REDUCED BY HALF AND THEREFORE EXPECT THAT ANY ODORS WOULD BE MINIMIZED.
ADDITIONALLY, THE CITY HAS PERFORMANCE STANDARDS FOR SUCH IMPACTS, WHICH ARE ADDRESSED THROUGH CODE COMPLIANCE ACTIONS IF NECESSARY.
HOWEVER, IN REGARDS TO THE PROPOSED USE, THE KENNEL HAS OPERATED OUT OF THEIR FRONT STREET LOCATION FOR 10 YEARS WITHOUT COMPLAINTS PURSUANT TO EL CAJON MUNICIPAL CODE SECTION 17 5 0 6 OH PLANNING COMMISSION SHALL CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS IN ORDER TO MAKE A DETERMINATION FOR ITEM A GENERAL PLAN CONSISTENCY.
THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION OF INDUSTRIAL PARK SEEKS TO ACCOMMODATE QUALITY INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY'S PRIMARY INDUSTRIAL AREA.
THE PROPOSED BUILDING AND SITE IMPROVEMENTS WILL UPGRADE THE EXISTING SITE AND ENSURE COMPATIBILITY WITH ADJACENT INDUSTRIAL USES.
AS IT RELATES TO ITEMS B AND C, THE PROPOSED KENNEL WILL PROVIDE SUFFICIENT ONSITE PARKING AND WILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH EXISTING AND PLANNED LAND USES IN THE VICINITY.
BECAUSE THE PROJECT SITE IS IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA WITH NO SENSITIVE LAND USES NEARBY OPERATIONAL CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL WILL ALSO ENSURE COMPATIBILITY WITH ADJACENT USES.
FOR ITEM D AS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED, OPERATIONAL IMPACTS ARE NOT ANTICIPATED EXCEPT FOR A LIMITED AMOUNT OF NOISE AND ODORS.
HOWEVER, THESE WILL BE MINIMIZED THROUGH FENCING, PROPER CONTAINMENT AND DISPOSAL OF WASTE AND ONGOING COMPLIANCE WITH THE CITY'S PERFORMANCE STANDARDS.
LASTLY, FOR FINDING E, THE PROPOSED KENNEL WILL PROVIDE A CONVENIENT AND NECESSARY DOG CARE SERVICE FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND THE SURROUNDING JOB CENTERS.
AND IS THEREFORE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
STAFF DETERMINE THAT THE PROJECT IS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM CQA ACCORDING TO SECTION 15 3 0 3, CLASS THREE OF THE CA GUIDELINES, WHICH INCLUDES AN EXEMPTION FOR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS NOT EXCEEDING 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
STAFF, THEREFORE RECOMMEND THAT PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT THE RESOLUTIONS TO APPROVE THE SE A EXEMPTION AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER
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20 24 0 0 0 4 SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT AND WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
YEAH, SO I JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND THE SEPTIC BUSINESS WILL STILL BE ACTIVE AND THEY'RE JUST TAKING HALF OF THE PROPERTY, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
THEY'RE TAKING THE BACK HALF FROM WHAT I SAW ON THE, ON THE DRAWINGS, THE PROPOSED KENNEL WILL OCCUPY THE, UH, REAR PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, THE BACK HALF OF THE PROPERTY.
DO YOU, WE DON'T HAVE ANY RENDERINGS OR ANYTHING OF THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENT STEWY OTHER THAN THE, THE, THE SITE PLAN, CORRECT? CORRECT.
THE EXISTING BUILDING WILL ESSENTIALLY REMAIN THE SAME WITH THE ROLL-UP DOORS AND THEY'LL, UH, AND THEN THEY'LL MAKE SOME, SOME STRIPING ON THE SITE PLAN, UH, FOR THE NEW PARKING STALLS AND THE A DA ACCESS.
UH, BUT, BUT NO RENDERINGS 'CAUSE IT'LL REMAIN AS IS.
IS IT POSSIBLE TO GET A STREET VIEW OF THE FRONT OF THAT PROPERTY FROM YOUR COMPUTER? ARE YOU ABLE TO DO THAT, NOAH? SOMETIMES YOU CAN GO ON GOOGLE.
I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO SEE THE FRONT OF THAT.
I'M TRYING TO GET A BETTER IDEA.
IT'S, I KNOW IT'S A PRETTY THIN, UM, PARCEL.
MAYBE 60 FEET WIDE, MAYBE LESS THAN THAT.
I, I DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO DIRECTLY TO OKAY.
UM, BUT I, WE CAN GO BACK TO THE SITE PLAN.
OH, UH, 68 FEET IN WIDTH FOR THE PROPERTY.
UM, IT'S WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWN, UM, PIONEER, IT'S UH, IT'S AN OLD SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
SO THE SEPARATE BUSINESS IS, IS THERE THE FRONT IN THE FRONT, RIGHT.
THEY'VE OPERATED THERE FOR 60 PLUS YEARS IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
UM, IT'S, UH, IT'S GOT RED TRIM ON THE HOUSE.
IT, IT, IT KIND OF STICKS OUT ACTUALLY WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWN THE STREET.
SO FOR ME, IF IT'S BEEN OPERATING FOR 60 PLUS YEARS, WHY ARE WE BRINGING THE CUP NOW? JUST EDUCATE ME A LITTLE BIT.
MAYBE I'M JUST A LITTLE BIT BEHIND THE TIME.
SO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED ONLY FOR THE KENNEL USE.
AND SO I THINK SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE'RE COMING UP WERE KIND OF RELATED TO THE EXISTING BUSINESS THAT'S THERE.
SO IT'S STAFF'S UNDERSTANDING THAT THE EXISTING BUSINESS FOR THE SEPTIC BUSINESS, THEY'RE GONNA REDU BE REDUCING THEIR FOOTPRINT ON THE SITE.
SO THEY'RE GONNA BE REDUCING THAT BY OVER 50% AND LOCATING EVERYTHING FROM THE PROPOSED KENNEL BUILDING OUT TOWARDS THE STREET, UM, THE, THEIR EXISTING BUSINESS.
UM, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY OPERATED THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
UM, AND THAT'S, IT'S A PERMITTED USE WITHIN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE.
UM, SO WE WOULD JUST BE LOOKING AT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE OPERATIONAL CONDITIONS RELATED TO THE KENNEL, NOT THE SEPTIC.
BUT STAFF DOES HAVE THE AUTHORITY, UM, TO CONTINUE TO IMPLEMENT, UM, THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THAT ARE CONTAINED IN THE ZONING CODE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN MONITOR THE FIRE LANE, UH, THAT PROVIDES ACCESS BACK TO THE PARKING FOR THE PROPOSED KENNEL.
WE CAN ALSO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE MEETING THEIR, UM, THE REGULATIONS AS THEY RELATE TO, UM, ODORS OR NOISE, UH, RELATED TO UH, THE SEPTIC BUSINESS.
UM, NOAH, UH, WHAT YOU JUST MENTIONED IS THAT ON THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, SO I THINK THE CHALLENGING THING IS THAT THE, WE AS STAFF, WE ONLY HAVE THE ABILITY THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS WELL TO, TO REGULATE THE BUSINESS THAT REQUIRES THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
SO THE, UM, COMMISSION CAN APPLY CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL TO THE OPERATION OF THE KENNEL WITH REGARDS TO ODORS AND NOISE.
UH, BUT ESSENTIALLY AS A PERMITTED USE FOR THE EXISTING, UM, SEPTIC BUSINESS, UM, THEY ARE JUST REGULATED BY THE ZONING CODE.
SO IF WE WERE TO RECEIVE A COMPLAINT ABOUT ODORS OR WE RECEIVE A COMPLAINT ABOUT, UH, TRUCKS THAT WERE PARKING IN A FIRE LANE, UH, WE WOULD JUST GO OUT THROUGH A NORMAL CODE COMPLIANCE ACTION AND ADDRESS THAT WITH THE, THE SEPTIC BUSINESS.
BUT THE COMMISSION DOESN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY THROUGH THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO REGULATE THE EXISTING SEPTIC BUSINESS.
SO IT'S NOT NECESSARY UNLESS THERE'S A COMPLAINT.
IF THERE WAS A COMPLAINT, WE WOULD GO OUT THERE AND ADDRESS IT.
UM, THERE'S NO HISTORY OF COMPLAINTS RELATED TO THE SEPTIC BUSINESS.
JUST A QUICK QUESTION REGARDING THAT.
WITH THE SEPTIC BUSINESS, 'CAUSE YOU SAID IT WAS GONNA REDUCE BY 50%, BUT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO TO HAVE THIS BE APPROVED, BUT IS THERE ANYBODY REGULATING THAT THEY ARE GONNA BE REDUCING IT BY 50%? OR DOES IT, DOES IT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE REGARDING THE DOG BUSINESS, WHETHER THEY DO OR DO NOT? I THINK WHEN WE SAY 50%, WE JUST MEAN THE OVERALL SITE FOOTPRINT.
'CAUSE THE CAMP RUN AMU WOULD BE OCCUPYING THE REAR 50% OF THE SITE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, UH, GOING BY HEARSAY COMMENTS FROM THE APPLICANT WHO HAS MORE INFORMATION ABOUT SOME POTENTIAL MODIFICATIONS TO THE SEPTIC BUSINESS.
UM, I CAN GUARANTEE, UM, THROUGH CODE COMPLIANCE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, MAINTAIN THE FIRE LANE THAT PROVIDES ACCESS TO THE REAR.
UM, SO THERE WERE ISSUES WITH LIKE TRUCKS BLOCKING THE AMOUNT OF TRUCKS GOING IN AND OUT, BUT THOSE TRUCKS OBVIOUSLY WOULD BE BLOCKING ACCESS TO THE PROPOSED KENNEL AS WELL.
SO THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE THAT THEY WOULD PROBABLY WORK ON TOGETHER.
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ENFORCE THAT, UH, THROUGH THE FIRE LANES AND THEN WE COULD ALSO ENFORCE, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE, WE WEREN'T AWARE PRIOR TO THIS, UH, PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE GOING OUT ABOUT ANY ODOR ISSUES, BUT WE COULD ALSO ADDRESS THOSE, UM, THROUGH CODE COMPLIANCE.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WERE THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ONE? YES.
WE RECEIVED ONE SPEAKER CARD AND THE SPEAKER IS RICK DENT.
WE RECEIVED A TOTAL OF A TOTAL OF TWO SPEAKER CARDS.
THE FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE RICK DENT.
MY ADDRESS IS, UM, 1444 THROUGH 1488.
I OWN THE PROPERTY JUST TO THE SOUTH OF THE, UM, PROPOSAL.
AND I HAVE NOT A PROBLEM WITH CAMP RUCK.
UM, I THINK IT'S NEEDED IN THE AREA.
I THINK THE PROBLEM IS WE'RE, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING AVAILABLE IN THE CITY OF ALCON RIGHT NOW, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT A ROUND PEG IN A SQUARE HOLE.
WE'VE GOT A SMALL SKINNY LOT THAT, UM, THE EXISTING USE AS USED THE WHOLE SITE.
NOW THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE UP HALF OF IT, BUT THEY'RE, THEY SAY THEY'RE GOING TO MOVE THEIR TRUCKS, BUT IF THEY DON'T MOVE THE TRUCKS, THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE DRIVING DOWN A SMALL LITTLE 24 FOOT DRIVEWAY AND WITH 40 FOOT SEWAGE TRUCKS THAT ARE BACKING IN AND OUT.
AND IF SOMEONE'S COMING IN AND, AND THEY CAN'T GET IN, WHICH HAPPENS A LOT BECAUSE OF THE, UH, TRUCK TRAFFIC IN THE AREA, THEY'RE GONNA DROP THEIR KID IN A, IN A DOG AND SAY, RUN 'EM IN AND YOU'VE GOT TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT.
IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN.
UM, AND I REALLY THINK, AND I UNDERSTAND, I'VE TALKED TO NOAH THAT YOU GUYS CAN'T PUT RESTRICTIONS ON THE EXISTING USE, BUT MAYBE, MAYBE THE CAMP MUCK THROUGH THEIR LEASE CAN SAY BECAUSE THEY'VE TOLD THEM THAT THEY'RE GONNA MOVE ALL THE TRUCKS OFF.
IF THEY MOVE THE TRUCKS AWAY, THEN I THINK YOU'RE OKAY.
I THINK YOU'VE GOT ADEQUATE ABILITY, BUT IF YOU GO LOOK AT THE, THE WAY THE TRUCKS ARE PARKED RIGHT NOW, THERE, IT'S, UM, THERE THERE'S NO WAY THAT THERE'S, THERE'S GONNA BE A TRUCK PULLING OUT WITH TO GO PUMP OR COMING BACK IN AND SOMEONE'S GOING TO BE DRIVING IN IN A CAR AND YOU JUST CAN'T, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM.
AND I, I DO HAVE PICTURES, BUT, UM, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST CAM MUCK.
I LIKE THEM AND I, AND I, I I, I CALLED THE HAMMONDS TODAY.
I CALLED A COUPLE BROKERS THAT I KNOW.
UM, I HAVE A DOZEN PROPERTIES IN EL CAJON.
UH, UH, BUT THIS, THE, THE ONE SPOT THAT I DID LOOK AT THAT I THOUGHT WAS NICE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS LOOKED AT IT, IS THE OLD EL CAJON PLUMBING FACILITY.
IT'S NOT IN THE CITY ELCON, IT'S IN THE, IT'S IN THE, IT'S IN THE COUNTY, BUT AT LEAST THAT'S GOT THE ABILITY TO, TO, TO MAKE A, A SWING IN AND OUT WITHOUT TRYING TO TURN A CAR AROUND.
IS THERE ANY WAY WE, WITH THE CHAIR'S PERMISSION, CAN WE SEE THE, WITH YOUR PICTURES? I LET THE ATTORNEY LOOK AT IT FIRST, RIGHT?
WHILE, WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PICTURES, IT'S VERY, UH, PIONEER WAY'S.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT MOST OF THE DRIVEWAYS, THEY, THEY'RE COMMERCIAL SIZE.
THIS IS A PRETTY SMALL DRIVEWAY AND EVERYONE'S PUT THROUGH THE CITY, UH, RED ZONES ON EITHER SIDE BECAUSE WHEN YOU PULL UP TO, TO GO OUT WITH CARS COMING AND TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT, YOU CAN'T SEE.
AND SO THEY'VE, SO THERE'S VERY LITTLE ON STREET PARKING THAT'S AVAILABLE ON PIONEER.
CAN YOU PUT UP THE SLIDE, UH, OF THE AERIAL VIEW OF, UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY? SO JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, THAT BACK BUILDING IS GOING TO BE FOR CAMP RUN, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO THEN THERE, THOSE TWO TRUCKS WOULD HAVE TO BE KIND OF ALMOST STARTING AT THE SIDEWALK BACK IF THEY WERE GONNA KEEP 'EM THERE.
I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, SAYING THEY ARE NOT, THEY'D BE THERE BECAUSE THAT'S THE 25 FOOT AREA FOR THE, UM, ACCESS.
THERE WOULD BE SPACE BETWEEN THE
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EXISTING, UM, OFFICE BUILDING AND THEN THE, THE KENNEL BUILDING, EXCUSE ME, THE KENNEL BUILDING.SO THERE, THERE'S SOME SPACE FOR THE TRUCKS, UH, WITHIN THERE.
THERE'S SOME, UM, EQUIPMENT AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE, ARE, THAT ARE THERE RIGHT NOW, BUT OBVIOUSLY IT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CHANGE THEIR OPERATION IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE KENNEL.
SO JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, YOUR CONCERN IS THE TRUCK'S TRAFFIC AND THEIR PARKING, JUST IT'S TRAFFIC AND THEIR PARKING.
SO IF, IF THEY SAID THEY'RE MOVING THEIR TRUCKS, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE USE AND BECAUSE I THINK THEY, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GET THEIR, THEIR CUSTOMERS IN AND OUT SAFELY.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE WAY THE TRUCKS ARE BROUGHT IN AT AN ANGLE, THE ONLY WAY THEY GET THE TRUCKS IN RIGHT NOW, FORGET ABOUT THE TWO THAT ARE IN THE DRIVEWAY.
THEY'VE GOT 'EM AT, AT A 60 DEGREE ANGLE.
SO YOU'RE GONNA BE HAVING PEOPLE WALKING IN AND OUT TO GO TO THE, TO THE KENNEL AND THEY'RE BACKING A 40, 60 FOOT TRUCK.
YOU CAN'T NO, I'M, I'M TRACKING YOU.
SO YOU'RE, YOU HAVE NO, YOU HAVE NO OFFENSE TO THE, TO THE KENNEL.
IT'S, IT'S, YOUR CONCERN IS THE TRUCK PARKING AND TRAFFIC HEALTH.
SO YOUR CONCERN IS THE, THE TRUCK TRAFFIC AND THE TRUCK PARKING, TRUCK TRAFFIC, TRUCK PARKING AND, AND SAFETY OF PEOPLE DRIVING IN TO PARK AND, AND BRING THEIR, THEIR PET IN.
UM, I, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.
UH, HAVE YOU, UH, ADDRESSED THE ISSUES THAT MR. DENT HAS BROUGHT UP REGARDING THE, UH, TRUCK PARKING AND THE THOROUGHFARE? I THINK THE ISSUE IS, IS THAT, UH, IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE, UM, THE USE IS A PERMITTED USE.
SO IF THE SEPTIC BUSINESS WERE TO GO AWAY AND LET'S SAY LIKE A, A LARGE MOVING VAN COMPANY WERE TO MOVE IN, SO THEY KIND OF A SIMILAR USE.
SO YOU WOULD BE, UM, OPERATING AN OFFICE OUT OF THE EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING MM-HMM.
SO, UM, IT ESSENTIALLY, TO ME IT WOULD BE A SOMEWHAT SIMILAR USE.
UM, THEY WOULD NEED TO OPERATE IN A FASHION SO THAT THEY MAINTAIN THE FIRE LANE AND ACCESS TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, AS FAR AS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN IS CONCERNED, UM, YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THE SITE PLAN, CAMP RUNT IS PROPOSING TO STRIPE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES.
SO THAT WOULD BE PARKING FOR GUESTS AND EMPLOYEES IN THE, IN THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THERE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, 24 FOOT WIDE FIRE LANE THAT WOULD PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY TO LEGALLY STRIPED A DA ACCESSIBLE PARKING TO ACCESS THE KENNEL.
UH, SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, WE KNOW THAT IT'S, UH, COMPLIANT WITH FIRE DEPARTMENT STANDARDS FOR ACCESS.
IT COMPLIES WITH THE A DA REQUIREMENTS, UH, FOR PEOPLE, UH, THAT WOULD BE PATRONIZING THE BUSINESS.
SO FROM THAT STANDPOINT, STAFF DIDN'T REALLY SEE ANY ISSUES.
UM, THE CHALLENGING THING IS, UH, THROUGH THE NORMAL CONDUCT OF ANY BUSINESS IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO OPERATE, YOU KNOW, LARGE TRUCKS OR MM-HMM.
UM, THE, UM, ZONING ORDINANCE REALLY WANTS TO SEE THIS TYPE OF USE OF KENNEL TYPE USE IN THIS LOCATION, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF ITS POTENTIAL IMPACTS.
SO THERE MAY BE SOME ISSUES, UM, AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC IS CONCERNED, BUT THOSE WOULD BE POTENTIALLY APPARENT IN ANY LOCATION.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, UH, OFTEN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CHANGE IN CIRCUMSTANCE.
SO IF THE SEPTIC BUSINESS WERE TO RELOCATE AND SOMEONE ELSE MOVES IN, YOU KNOW, THE, IF IT'S A PERMITTED USE STAFF DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO REGULATE IT.
BUT WE DO HAVE THE, UM, ONGOING OPERATIONAL, UM, STANDARDS WITH REGARDS TO NOISE OR ODORS OR OTHER THINGS.
SO WE WOULD MAKE SURE TO MAINTAIN THE, UM, SAFE ACCESS VIA THE FIRE LANE, UM, THROUGH THE COMPLAINT PROCESS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE, UH, PARKING AND ACCESS AT ALL TIMES.
NOW WITH THE PARKING ON THIS ONE, 'CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THE AERIAL VIEW, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF SPACE BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS, BUT ARE THEY GONNA HAVE ALL THAT SPACE BE PARKING? BUT THERE'S ONLY SEVEN SPACES, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE DOING HALF OF THE LOT, THEN THAT WOULD PUSH IT BACK TO THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
SO IS, SO THERE GONNA BE SOME SHARED PARKING OR HOW ARE THEY GONNA WORK THAT THE, ESSENTIALLY THE SEVENTH, SO THERE'S THE FOUR NEW STRIPE SPACES, AND THEN ON THE SITE PLAN IT SHOWS KIND OF THREE LARGE PARKING STALLS THAT WOULD BE POTENTIALLY FOR TRUCKS.
UM, I THINK WHAT WE TRIED TO ALLUDE TO IN THE STAFF REPORT IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE POTENTIAL FOR, UM, TANDEM PARKING ON SOME OF THOSE BIGGER SPOTS IF THEY WERE TO WORK TOGETHER.
UM, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT RELATIONSHIP IS.
UM, WE WERE, STAFF WAS REALLY RELYING ON THE FACT THAT THIS BUSINESS HAS OPERATED SUCCESSFULLY WITHIN THE CITY OVER ON FRONT STREET, UH, FOR OVER, I THINK I BELIEVE 10 YEARS.
UM, THEY'VE OPERATED WITH ESSENTIALLY THE SAME NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES YEP.
UH, WITH, WITHOUT COMPLAINTS FOR, UM, NOISE OR ORDERS AND, UH, SUFFICIENT PARKING TO WHERE WE NEVER RECEIVED ANY COMPLAINTS WITH REGARDS TO THAT EITHER.
AND THAT WAS AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE AS WELL, SO.
IT'S JUST HAVING THEM WORK TOGETHER.
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AND I HAVE ONE.UM, SO IF, IF IT DOES BECOME AN ISSUE, NOT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE, BUT LET'S SAY IT DOES BECOME AN ISSUE WITH THE TRUCKS.
UH, WHAT, WHAT WAY CAN IT BE ADDRESSED? UM, I THINK ONE OPTION AT THE COMMISSION'S DISPOSAL IS, UM, SOMETIMES THE COMMISSION WILL REQUIRE A SIX MONTH REVIEW OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GRAPPLING WITH NOW IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE EXISTING CONDITION AND HOW IT'S ANTICIPATED TO CHANGE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE USE.
SO, UM, IF THE COMMISSION WERE TO, UM, ADD A CONDITION REQUIRING A SIX MONTH REVIEW AFTER THEY BEGIN OPERATING, UH, WE COULD, STAFF COULD MONITOR THAT AND THEN WE COULD REPORT BACK.
AND IF THERE'S INSUFFICIENT CONDITIONS, UM, THOSE COULD BE POTENTIALLY ADDRESSED THROUGH NEW CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD MEETING IN THE MIDDLE.
PERSONALLY, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S ZERO.
IT IS A ZERO COST AND IT RESPECTS THE NEIGHBOR WHO YEAH.
MADE TIME TO COME HERE AND ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, HAD HIS CONCERNS ADDRESSED.
AND WE DO HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER CARD.
WE DO HAVE THE, THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED A SPEAKER CARD AS WELL AND, UM, CAN MENTION SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT SHE'S HAD WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER AS WELL AS THE SEPTIC BUSINESS.
SO THE LAST SPEAKER IS THE APPLICANT, MOLLY KRUM WAI FROM WAITY.
WHY DON'T YOU PULL THAT MIC DOWN RIGHT INTO YOUR, SO WE CAN HEAR IT THERE.
UM, QUESTIONS OR, UM, I WAS GONNA SAY THAT IF, IF YOU LOOK AT THE AERIAL OF YOU, WE DID SPEAK TO THE GENTLEMAN, UH, TOMAS ER WHO OWNS THE BUILDING CURRENTLY.
HE'S ALREADY PUT WHERE THOSE TWO BIG TRUCKS ARE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE RECTANGLE.
SO THOSE TWO TRUCKS WILL BE GONE.
HE'S LOOKING TO RELOCATE THEM TO NORTH COUNTY, UM, TO ESCONDIDO AND THEN WILL HAVE SPACE FOR TWO LANES OF TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT WHERE THOSE TRUCKS CURRENTLY ARE.
AND, UH, WE HAVE THAT IN A PROPOSED LEASE FROM HIM THAT THAT WILL OCCUR.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU DON'T FORESEE A PROBLEM THEN? I DON'T IF ANY OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH WHERE WE'RE CURRENTLY LOCATED ON FRONT STREET, WE SHARE THE END OF A CUL-DE-SAC WITH THE AMERICAN ICE COMPANY, AND THEY HAVE HUGE TRUCKS THAT COME AND GO CONSTANTLY.
WE'VE NEVER HAD ANY ISSUES WITH OUR CUSTOMERS BEING ABLE TO NAVIGATE THEIR TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT.
UM, WE HAVE FIVE PARKING SPACES NOW, WHICH IS ADEQUATE FOR OUR CUSTOMER FLOW BECAUSE EVERYONE'S NOT COMING ALL AT ONCE.
WE'LL HAVE CUSTOMERS COMING THROUGHOUT THE DAY, SO IT'S ONE OR TWO CARS AT A TIME.
SO OUR CUSTOMERS HAVE LEARNED IN ALL THE YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN THERE THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE TO WAIT FOR A MOMENT TO ACCOMMODATE ONE OF THE ICE TRUCKS COMING OR GOING.
UM, AND IT'S, IT JUST FEELS, UH, LIKE WE WON'T HAVE A PROBLEM BECAUSE THE BUILDING OWNER CURRENTLY, UM, MR. PALMER IS EXTREMELY EXCITED ABOUT US BEING THERE.
UM, HE'S BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF ALL OF OUR REQUESTS AND OUR CONCERNS AS WELL.
I THINK THAT I, I'M NOT, I'M NOT, THE CONCERN ISN'T SO MUCH FOR THE CUSTOMERS, IT'S MORE FOR THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE, ARE BRINGING UP THEIR CONCERNS.
I THINK THAT'S MORE WHAT IT IS.
I I'M NOT SEEING YOUR, THE PROPOSAL IS SOUND, BUT I THINK THAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE BRINGING FORTH SOME CONCERNS WITH THE TRUCKS IS WHAT IS WHAT THEY'RE BRINGING.
I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THE CUSTOMERS PER SE.
BUT, UM, WOULD YOU BE OBJECTIONABLE TOWARD A, A A SIX MONTH REVIEW? NO, THAT WOULD BE FINE.
LIKE I SAID, HE'S ALREADY ASSURED US THAT THE TWO TRUCKS THAT ARE IN THE DRIVEWAY ARE ALREADY GOING TO BE GONE.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID, HE'S VERY ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT WORKING WITH US TO MAKE IT WORK.
SO HE WANTS US TO BE THERE AS A TENANT.
SO I DON'T ANTICIPATE A PROBLEM WITH WORKING OUT WHATEVER WE NEED TO TO MAKE SURE IT DOES OCCUR.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOPE, NOT ALL.
SINCE WE HAVE CLOSED PUBLIC CLOSED PUBLIC, I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE, CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING
THAT MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK? I THINK IT'S, WELL, I DON'T, UH, I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM, ESPECIALLY IF WE ADD THE SIX MONTH REVIEW.
UM, THEN WE CAN TELL IF THERE IT IS A PROBLEM.
BUT I, I, RIGHT NOW WHERE I'M SITTING, I, I DON'T FORESEE A PROBLEM.
I THINK THE, UH, TENANT AND LANDLORD AND, UM, ALL THE TENANTS HAVE COME TOGETHER HAS, UH,
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UH, WHAT IS YOUR NAME? I'M SORRY.MOLLY HAS STATED THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A TWO-LANE ROAD THERE AND 24 FEET IS A PRETTY, PRETTY WIDE, UH, DRIVEWAY.
IT'S A WIDE OPENING, VERY LIGHT DRIVEWAY.
I THINK THE SIX MONTH REVIEW IS A GOOD MEETING IN THE MIDDLE FOR THE, FOR THE NEIGHBORS AND FOR THE, UH, FOR THE OWNERS JUST TO, UM, TO DO A REVIEW.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH TAKING A SECOND LOOK AT IT, DOING AN EYE TEST, AND IF WE GOT IT WRONG, WE CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS, BUT I THINK THAT'S A GOOD MEETING IN THE MIDDLE.
WELL, I WILL MOVE TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION IN ORDER TO APPROVING THE PROPOSED CQA EXEMPTION IN CUP NUMBER 2 0 2 4 DASH 0 0 0 4 SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS AND, AND THE SIX MONTH REVIEW.
REBECCA, CAN YOU ENTER YOUR VOTE AGAIN PLEASE? WHO? REBECCA POLLAK RU I PUSHED IT.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
THANKS FOR SPEAKING ON THE ITEMS. THANK YOU FOR COMING.
[Public Hearing Item 4]
WE'RE ON TO THE RAFA VILLAS AGENDA TO ITEM FOUR, RAFA VILLAS, THE NEW COMMON INTEREST DEVELOPMENT FOR FIVE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED RESIDENCE.IT'S CA EXEMPT RECOMMENDED FOR CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL.
YOU TELL ME TO READ EVERYTHING RIGHT.
SO I DID
MY NAME IS MIKE VI, SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
ITEM FOUR ON THIS EVENING'S AGENDA IS THE ARAPAHOE VILLAS PROJECT AS SUBMITTED BY RONNIE LUM OF NEW VISION BUILDING AND DESIGN.
SO, AS YOU STATED, PROJECT APPLICATIONS INCLUDE A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT PERMIT OR PUD AND TENTATIVE SUBDIVISION MAP, PROPOSING A SIX LOT SUBDIVISION WITH A COMMON LOT FOR PRIVATE STREET AND FIVE LOTS WITH DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON A VACANT SITE.
PROPOSED RESIDENCES UTILIZE A 1700 SQUARE FOOT FLOOR PLAN AND STANDARD AND MIRRORED CONFIGURATIONS AND INCLUDE FOUR BEDROOMS, THREE BATHS, AND AN ATTACHED TWO CAR GARAGE FOR SALE.
THE PROJECT DEVELOPER WOULD INSTALL NEW DRIVEWAY, SIDEWALK, STREET TREES, AND STREETLIGHT IN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY ALONG SOUTH MAGNOLIA AVENUE, AS WELL AS PRIVATE IMPROVEMENTS AND LANDSCAPE FOR USE BY RESIDENTS.
SHOWN HERE IN BLUE IS AN INTERIOR LOT ON THE WEST SIDE OF SOUTH MAGNOLIA AVENUE BETWEEN RE WEST NETTE AVENUE AND WEST CHASE AVENUE.
THE VACANT SITE IS ROUGHLY 0.46 ACRES AND WAS PREVIOUSLY DEVELOPED WITH SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURES.
THESE STRUCTURES WERE THE SUBJECT OF CODE COMPLIANCE ACTIVITY AND WERE SUB SUBSEQUENTLY DEMOLISHED.
THE PROPERTY SLOPES DOWN FROM MAGNOLIA AVENUE TO THE WEST AND IS BORDERED BY A TOWNHOME PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT TO THE NORTH, APARTMENTS TO THE WEST AND SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE TO THE SOUTH.
THE PROPERTY IS DESIGNATED MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IN THE GENERAL PLAN AND IS ZONED RM 2200.
THESE DESIGNATIONS CORRESPOND AND ARE INTENDED FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT UP TO 20 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE WITH FIVE UNITS ON A 0.4 ACRE SITE.
THE PROPOSED DENSITY IS JUST UNDER 11 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
THE SITE WAS NOT IDENTIFIED IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT SITE'S INVENTORY AS A SITE NECESSARY TO MEET THE CITY'S SHARE OF REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS.
WHILE THE RM 2200 ZONE TYPICALLY YIELDS MULTI-FAMILY DWELLINGS, A PUD MAY BE PROPOSED IN ANY RESIDENTIAL ZONE AND INCLUDE USES CONSISTENT WITH THE UNDERLYING ZONING DISTRICT.
THE R 2200 INCLUDES SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AS A PERMISSIBLE USE, AND THUS IT IS PERMISSIBLE IN THE PROPOSED PUD.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED PUD SITE PLAN FOR THE PROJECT.
PROPOSED LOT LINES ARE SHOWN IN BLUE.
THE PLAN IS GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS, BUT ALSO REQUESTS ALTERNATIVE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
THE FIVE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE ORIENTED TOWARD A PRIVATE STREET ACCESS OFF SOUTH MAGNOLIA AVENUE, WHICH IS 20 FEET WIDE, CONSISTENT WITH THE CALIFORNIA FIRE CODE, RATHER THAN THE PUD STANDARD OF 22 FEET.
NOTE THAT FLOOR PLANS WEST OF THE TURNAROUND ARE IN A MIRRORED CONFIGURATION.
EACH HOME OBSERVES 10 FOOT SETBACKS FROM PUBLIC AND PRIVATE STREETS
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AND PROPOSES INTERIOR AND REAR SETBACKS OF AT LEAST FIVE FEET.CONSISTENT WITH PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.
PRIVATE REAR YARDS ACCOMMODATE THE MINIMUM 400 SQUARE FEET OF OPEN SPACE PER UNIT AND ALSO PROVIDE SPACE FOR REQUIRED REFUSE CONTAINERS.
THE SITE PLAN INCLUDES A SIDEWALK AND 18 PARKING STALLS, CONSISTENT REQUIREMENTS, BUT PROPOSES A REDUCED DRIVEWAY DEPTH AND REVERSE SPACE FOR THESE STALLS.
INSTEAD, THESE STALLS PROPOSE A STANDARD DIMENSION FOR OUTDOOR UNCOVERED STALLS IN THE ZONING CODE OF 18 AND A HALF FEET AND CREDIT THE DRIVEWAY APRON TOWARD THE REQUIRED 24 FEET OF REVERSE SPACE LANDSCAPE HAS PROPOSED ALONG THE PROJECT FRONTAGE ALONG BUILDINGS, AND AT THE END OF THE PRIVATE STREET, THE LANDSCAPE ALONG SOUTH MAGNOLIA AVENUE ALSO ACCOMMODATES A STORMWATER FACILITY AND WOULD BE PROTECTED BY 42 INCH HIGH MASONRY WALL TOPPED BY DECORATIVE FENCING.
A SIX FOOT HIGH SCREENING FENCE IS PROPOSED ALONG PROPERTY LINES ATOP SITE RETAINING WALLS.
THESE PROPOSED FILLS AND RETAINING WALLS FOR EACH A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF SEVEN FEET AT THE WESTERN LIMIT OF THE PROJECT, THEN TO DESCEND TOWARD MAGNOLIA AVENUE ALONG PROPERTY LINES TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE FALL FOR GRAVITY SEWER SERVICE AND DRAINAGE TO RECEIVING INFRASTRUCTURE.
THESE FILLS ARE CONSISTENT WITH OTHER DEVELOPMENTS ALONG SOUTH MAGNOLIA AVENUE, INCLUDING THE PUD TO THE ADJACENT NORTH.
SHOWN IN THE IMAGE CONSISTENT WITH MUNICIPAL CODE REQUIREMENTS, AESTHETICS, SAFETY AND INPUT FROM NEIGHBORS MUST BE CONSIDERED FOR FENCES AND WALLS IN EXCESS OF SIX FEET.
THE RADIUS NOTICE FOR THE PROJECT INCLUDED SPECIFIC REFERENCE TO THE COMBINED WALL HEIGHT OF 13 FEET, BUT NO PUBLIC COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED.
ALL PROPOSED WALLS AND FENCES OBSERVE REQUIRED SETBACKS FROM MAGNOLIA AVENUE TO PRESERVE SITE DISTANCE.
AND THE DRAFT RESOLUTION INCLUDES A CONDITION REQUIRING A DECORATIVE FINISH ACROSS ALL VISIBLE PORTIONS OF SITE WALLS TO PROVIDE AESTHETIC APPEARANCE.
THIS SIDE FLOWS THE PROPOSED RENDERS OF THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES EAST OF THE TURNAROUND.
EAST OF THE TURNAROUND IS SEEN FROM THE PRIVATE STREET TO THE SOUTH AND MAGNOLIA AVENUE.
NOTE THAT BECAUSE OF THE MIRRORED FLOOR PLAN CONFIGURATION, THE REVERSE OF THE EAST ELEVATION IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT WOULD FACE THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST OF THE PROJECT.
EXTERIOR MATERIALS INCLUDE STUCCO AND LAPSED SIDING AND CONTEMPORARY CONTRASTING COLORS WITH STONEWORK HIGHLIGHTS ALONG FRONT ELEVATIONS.
THE ROOF HAS PROPOSED TO BE ASPHALT SHINGLE AND IS 25 AND A HALF FEET IN MAXIMUM HEIGHT, CONSISTENT WITH PUD LIMITATIONS FROM THE RM 2200 ZONE.
NOTE THAT THE BASE ZONE WOULD PERMIT A MAXIMUM OF 35 FEET WITH A SIX FOOT SETBACK FROM THE NORTHERLY PROPERTY LINE.
IN GENERAL, THE PROPOSED RESIDENCES ARE CONSISTENT WITH ARCHITECTURAL GUIDELINES AS REQUIRED BY PUD REGULATIONS.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THESE GUIDELINES.
STRUCTURES INCLUDE CHANGES IN WALL PLANES, ARCHITECTURAL DETAILING ACROSS ALL ELEVATIONS, MULTIPLE MATERIALS AND CONTEMPORARY DESIGN.
AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE REAR AND TURNAROUND FACING ELEVATIONS SHOWN HERE, TRIMS, BRAND BANDING AND OTHER DETAILS ARE CONTINUED THROUGHOUT.
ALSO, NOTE THAT THE DRAFT RESOLUTION INCLUDES A CONDITION LIMITING SECOND STORY LIGHTING TO DOWN LIGHTING ONLY TO IMPROVE COMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
AS A COMMON INTEREST DEVELOPMENT, THE PROPOSED POD WILL REQUIRE THE RECORDATION OF COVENANTS, CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS IN THE FORMATION OF A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION.
COMMON FACILITIES OUTSIDE THE PRIVATE REAR YARDS WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA IN ORDER FOR PLANNING COMMISSION TO RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.
THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS MUST BE MADE FIRST, THAT THE DENSITY OF THE PROPOSED PUD IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN.
TWO, THAT THE APPROVAL OF ANY ALTERNATIVE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IS IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST.
THREE, THAT THE P PROPOSED PUD IS COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT.
AND FOUR, THAT THE LOCATION OF STRUCTURES PRIVATE DRIVES, DRIVEWAYS AND PARKING SPACES ON THE PROPOSED PD SITE PLAN WILL NOT RESULT IN UNAUTHORIZED PARKING, WHICH WOULD BLOCK OR HAMPER VEHICULAR MOVEMENT OR AFFECT VISIBILITY ON THE PRIVATE STREET OR DRIVEWAY.
THE NECESSARY FINDINGS FOR THE PUD ARE INCLUDED IN THE DRAFT RESOLUTION ON THE GROUNDS THAT THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH SURROUNDING DEVELOPMENT GENERAL PLAN DENSITY AND OBJECTIVES.
THE PROPOSED ALTERNATIVE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS ARE FURTHER IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST AS THEY FACILITATE SATISFACTION OF HOUSING ELEMENT OBLIGATIONS AND WILL NOT RESULT IN UNSAFE SITE CONDITIONS AS THEY'RE CONSISTENT WITH OTHER APPLICABLE MUNICIPAL CODE STANDARDS FOR SUCH FACILITIES.
DRAFT FINDINGS NECESSARY TO APPROVE THE TENTATIVE SUBDIVISION MAP ARE ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS, UH, IN THE DRAFT RESOLUTION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE.
THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS EXEMPT FROM THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW REQUIREMENTS OF THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT PURSUANT TO SQL GUIDELINES, SECTION 1 5 3 3 2, THE CLASS 32 EXEMPTION FOR INFILL DEVELOPMENT STAFF.
THEREFORE RECOMMEND THAT PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE CQA DETERMINATION PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT AND TENTATIVE SUBDIVISION MAP.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT QUESTION.
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WASN'T IDENTIFIED IN THE, UH, THE HOUSING ELEMENT, BUT IT DOES, WE DO GET CREDIT FOR IT, OBVIOUSLY, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.UH, SEEING SOME NICE INDIVIDUAL PRIVATELY OWNED HOMES THAT'S, WE'RE IN SUCH NEED OF THEM.
UM, I NOTICED THIS COMPOSITION, UH, ROOF USED TO HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR TILE.
WHEN, WHEN DID THAT CHANGE? I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO POINT TO A SPECIFIC DATE WHERE THAT REQUIREMENT CHANGED, BUT IT HAS CERTAINLY, UM, AS ACKNOWLEDGED IN THE STAFF REPORT, BEEN A REQUIREMENT OF PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL, UH, AT LEAST IN, IN DECISION DOCUMENTS TO REQUIRE CEMENTITIOUS ROOF TILES.
I I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY FOR THAT.
FOR ME, IT'S, FOR ME, I'M LOOKING AT PARKING, UH, FOR GUEST PARKING.
I DON'T REALLY SEE, MAYBE I'M JUST MISSING IT.
I DON'T SEE A, A LOT OF GUEST PARKING.
UM, MAYBE YOU CAN POINT IT OUT TO ME.
I JUST DON'T SEE ANY, I, I I JUST KNOW THAT WITH HOA, IT'S LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, THE MAIN MONSTER.
IT SAYS FIVE HERE, SO ON THE CHART I'M JUST NOT SEEING IT.
UH, IF YOU CAN SEE ON THE SITE PLAN, RIGHT, UM, IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE, THERE'S, UH, ONE SPACE FOR EACH UNIT, UM, TO THE, ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN WHERE THE UNIT ONE IS.
UM, IMMEDIATELY TO THE LEFT OF THE DRIVEWAY, YOU'LL SEE A SPACE.
UM, THAT PATTERN IS REPEATED, UH, TO THE LEFT OF, UH, DRIVEWAY NUMBER TWO, AND ALSO AT DRIVEWAY NUMBER FOUR.
SO THOSE ARE THREE COMMON SPACES, UH, SUPPLEMENTAL SPACES IN THE COMMON LOT.
SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, IT'S ONE SPACE PER H HOME.
EACH, EACH UNIT HAS A TWO CAR GARAGE.
THEY HAVE, UH, SPACE SUFFICIENT FOR AT LEAST ONE CAR IN THEIR DRIVEWAYS.
AND THEN THERE ARE THE THREE SUPPLEMENTAL SPACES I'M TRACKING UNIT.
YES, WE RECEIVED ONE SPEAKER CARD FROM THE APPLICANT.
UM, MY NAME IS RANIA SALUM WITH NEW VISION BUILDING AND DESIGN.
UM, I AM THE PROJECT DESIGNER.
UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I AGREE WITH ALL THE CONDITIONS LISTED TO OBTAIN ALL THE REQUIRED PERMITS.
ANY QUESTIONS?
SHE'S LIKE, SHE'S NO, I, I DON'T KNOW IF ANY NO QUESTION.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
ANY MORE COMMENTS FROM YOU ON THIS ONE? IT'S A GREAT, GREAT LITTLE, NOT ALL WHAT I SEE AN EMPTY LOT.
YOU KNOW, THE, AND WE NEED THE HOUSING.
SO I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, IF I MAY.
I LIKE TO MOVE TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION IN ORDER RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE CEQA EXEMPTION, PUD NUMBER 2023 DASH 0 0 4 AND TSM NUMBER 2023 DASH 0 0 1 1.
SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
AND CHERRY, IF I MAY, UM, THE HOMES AND ALCOHOL.
UH, SO THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
UM, THIS ITEM WAS JOINT NOTICE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, UH, MEETING OF JULY 23RD, 2024 AT 7:00 PM OH, PERFECT.
SO LET'S SEE THE FOLLOW UP FOR THAT ONE.
NONE TO THE LAST, BUT THIS WAS A VERY LONG ONE.
I TRIED TO PUSH THE LOCK BUTTON.
DOES IT? WHERE IS IT? RIGHT HERE.
NO, MINE TOOK ME BACK TO THE BEGINNING.
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I WANNA BORROW YOURS REALLY QUICK BECAUSE MINE MINE'S ARE YOU, ARE YOU LOCKED? I'M LOCKED, BUT IT KEEPS GOING TO THE BEGINNING.
THEN HIT THE, HIT THE LITTLE ARROW AT THE TOP AND IT'LL TAKE YOU RIGHT BACK TO THE BEGINNING.
WHERE ARE WE? WE'RE WE'RE NUMBER FIVE.
[Public Hearing Item 5]
AGENDA NUMBER FIVE, HIT THIS ONE.THE MATTER OUR VARIANCE EXTENDED APPROVAL PERIOD FOR ONE YEAR.
IT'S CQA EXEMPT AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING TO APPROVE THE SMALL ONE.
PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, HONORABLE CHAIR.
UH, MIKE LEON, SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.
THE FINAL ITEM ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA IS A REQUEST FOR TIME EXTENSION FOR APPROVED VARIANCE NUMBER 20 23 0 0 0 1 AS SUBMITTED BY GUY MADAR.
THIS VARIANCE WAS APPROVED BY PLANNING COMMISSION FOUR ZERO ON MAY 16TH, 2023 WITH A ONE YEAR EXPIRATION.
THE APPLICANT REQUESTED AN EXTENSION ON APRIL 9TH, 2024.
THE ELCO AND MUNICIPAL CODE PROVIDES THAT THE DECISION MAKING BODY MAY GRANT A SINGLE ONE YEAR EXTENSION.
THIS MAY BE DONE WITHOUT FURTHER PUBLIC HEARING ACCORDING TO THE CODE.
IT WAS BY GARFIELD AND WAKEFIELD WAKEFIELD.
SO JUST AS A REMINDER, UH, AND AS THE COMMISSION IS AWARE, VARIANCE NUMBER 2023 AUTHORIZES A 15 FOOT SETBACK FROM GARFIELD AVENUE FOR THE PROPERTY OUTLINED IN BLUE AT 8 29 WAKEFIELD COURT.
DUE TO STEEP SLOPES, A LOT WITH STREET FRONTAGE ON OPPOSITE SIDES CALLED A THROUGH LOT WOULD OTHERWISE REQUIRE 20 FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACKS FROM EACH STREET.
UH, THE REDUCTION WAS FOUND TO BE CONSISTENT WITH DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN THE SAME ZONE AND VICINITY AS THE PROPERTIES HIGHLIGHTED IN RED WERE ALSO GRANTED VARIANCES TO ALLOW 15 FOOT SETBACKS.
SETBACK STANDARDS IN THE R SIX ZONE HAVE NOT CHANGED SINCE THIS VARIANCE APPROVAL.
THE APPLICANT HAS SUBMITTED ALL NECESSARY PLANS FOR PROJECT REVIEW AND HAS PROGRESSED SUBSTANTIALLY TOWARD ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT.
STAFF THEREFORE RECOMMEND THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVE THE ONE YEAR EXTENSION PERMITTED BY THE CAJON MUNICIPAL CODE.
THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.
PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, BUT DID ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE OR, UH, NO.
I THINK HE SHOULD GET HIS ONE YEAR EXTENSION.
SO WITHOUT ANY QUESTIONS, WE CAN JUST MOVE TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION ON ORDER APPROVING THE TIME EXTENSIONS FOR VARIANCE NUMBER 2 0 2 3 DASH ONE.
COMMISSIONER ROSE, CAN YOU ENTER YOUR VOTE AGAIN PLEASE? WASN'T ME THIS VOTE? THANK YOU.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
IS THERE ANY STAFF REPORTS OR, UH, NO ADDITIONAL COMMUNICATIONS FROM STAFF? LOOK AT THAT.
WELL, THEN I'LL MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE VOTE PLEASE.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.