May 28, 2024 City Council Meeting 3pm

BOYS INTO SHAPE? AND SHE DID.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

HELLO.

HI, UM, MY NAME'S DR.

KRISTEN KATZ.

I'M THE SCHOOL PSYCHOLOGIST AT EL CAJON VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING US THIS AFTERNOON, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR CHOOSING AJA TO HONOR WITH THIS AWARD.

UM, I JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE OVERVIEW OF HOW AMAZING SHE IS, UM, I FIRST MET AJA WHEN SHE WAS VOLUNTEERING TO BE THE MANAGER OF THE BOYS VARSITY SOCCER TEAM THAT I HELPED COACH.

AND I WAS LIKE, WHO IS THIS LITTLE SPITFIRE WHO IS WHIPPING 20 TEENAGE

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UM, SHE'S ALSO GONE ON TO VOLUNTEER WITH THE AMERICAN RED CROSS AS IN THEIR LEADERSHIP ORGANIZATION.

SHE'S THE VICE PRESIDENT OF OUR A SB AT OKLAHOMA VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL.

SHE RUNS THE AVID PROGRAM PRESIDENT OR VICE PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT OF AVID.

UM, SHE HAS OVER A 4.0 GPA AND SHE'S GONNA BE GOING TO UCSD IN THE FALL TO BE A NURSE, UM, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT'S PASSIONATE TO HER.

SO SHE'S AMAZING.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW SHE DOES ALL THAT.

SHE DOES, BUT SHE DEFINITELY DESERVES THIS AWARD.

SO THANK YOU.

WELL, CONGRATULATIONS EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, GARY, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? OH, YOU, UH, THAT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE.

THANKS FOR, UH, VOLUNTEERING YOUR TIME.

IT'S, IT'S REALLY IMPRESSIVE THAT YOU WOULD TAKE YOUR TIME TO DO THAT.

UM, NEXT I'D LIKE TO INVITE PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR FRANK CARSON TO SHARE WITH US ABOUT AMERICA ON MAIN STREET SPONSOR RECOGNITION.

UH, BUT FIRST I, I WANNA MENTION THAT, UH, COUNCILMAN MCKENDRICK RIGHT HERE ON MY RIGHT IS, UM, HAVING SOME PROBLEMS WITH HIS BACK.

SO HE MAY BE STANDING, UH, DURING THE, THE MEETING.

AND SO IF YOU WOULD ALL JUST BEAR WITH US FOR THAT.

FRANK, HOW ARE YOU? I'M GREAT, MAYOR.

HAPPY TUESDAY.

I, WELL DONE ON, UH, AMERICAN AND MAIN STREET.

SO WE WANNA DO A BRIEF FOLLOW UP TO AMERICA ON MAIN STREET.

WE HAD, WE'RE ESTIMATING SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 22 AND 25,000, UH, RESIDENTS AND PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE REGION COME TO AMERICA ON MAIN STREET.

A HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL EVENT.

WE SAW A STEADY CROWD THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE EVENT.

UH, LOTS OF POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY BEING THAT EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR FOOD AND DRINK WAS FREE.

UH, IT WAS A, A VERY REFRESHING SITE TO SEE AND THE COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER IN THAT WAY.

WE DO WANNA RECOGNIZE SOME OF THE SPONSORS THAT WE DO HAVE IN THE CROWD TODAY.

NOT ALL SPONSORS COULD, COULD BE HERE, BUT WE ALSO WANNA RECOGNIZE THEM AT THIS MOMENT.

FIRST, I'D LIKE TO INVITE, UH, DOUG SBA FROM BATH FITTER TO COME UP AND RECEIVE A CERTIFICATE FROM THE CITY OF EL CAJON THANKING HIM FOR BATH FITTER'S, BRONZE LEVEL SPONSORSHIP.

I DUNNO IF YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING.

GOOD.

HELLO, YOU GUYS.

I SAY MY NAME IS DOUG.

I'M THE, UM, MARKETING EVENTS MANAGER FOR BATH FITTER SAN DIEGO ON BEHALF OF BATH FITTER.

I LIKE TO THANK EVERYBODY, UH, IN THE CITY OF EL CAJON AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WORK SO HARD TO MAKE AMERICA ON MAIN STREET.

SUCH A GREAT EVENT.

WE ARE VERY PROUD TO BE PART OF IT, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO BEING A PART OF MANY MORE EVENTS LIKE THIS IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SPONSORSHIP.

HONORABLE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

NEXT, I'D LIKE TO INVITE JOE BRITTON FROM SDGE AS I SILVER SPONSOR PRESENTING HIM WITH A CERTIFICATE FROM THE CITY OF EL CAJON.

SURE, THANKS.

GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, SPONSOR THIS GREAT EVENT IN THE CITY OF EL CAJON.

I THINK WE NOW HAVE OVER 400 EMPLOYEES WHO CALL THE CITY OF EL CAJON HOME, SO WE'RE PROUD TO BE IN THE COMMUNITY AND, AND I KNOW MANY OF THEM ENJOYED THE CELEBRATION, SO THANK YOU FOR BEING, UH, LETTING US BE PART OF IT.

THANKS FOR BEING PART OF IT.

UM, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM HU UL CASINO, UH, WAS UNABLE TO BE HERE TODAY, BUT WE DO WANNA RECOGNIZE THEM AS A GOLD SPONSOR FOR THE EVENT.

AND ROGER DOUGHERTY FROM KAISER, HE, HE SAID HE, I'M SORRY, I'M, I'M GONNA BE IN IRELAND SO I WON'T BE ABLE TO BE THERE.

BUT PLEASE SEND THEM, TELL THEM THAT WE'RE GRATEFUL TO BE A PART OF THIS EVENT AS WE HAVE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS.

SO KAISER'S BEEN A SIGNATURE SPONSOR FOR US FOR MANY YEARS.

WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE EVENT.

WIRED FIBER IS ANOTHER PLATINUM SPONSOR.

UH, THEY WERE, THEY NOTIFIED US THIS MORNING.

THEY WERE PLANNING ON BEING HERE, BUT THEY, SOMETHING CAME UP SO THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO BE HERE.

THEY WERE A FIRST TIME SPONSOR OF THE EVENT, AND WE HAD THE WIRED FUN RUN THAT WON WIN SOME PRIZES WERE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING WHERE THEY COULD DO SOME TYPE OF SPEEDY RACE AND MAKE IT LIKE IT WAS INTERNET FAST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

BUT, UH, IT WAS FUN, UH, TO, TO HAVE SOMETHING LIKE ANOTHER EVENT, A LITTLE SMALL EVENT WITHIN THE EVENT, AND THEY REALLY APPRECIATED BEING THERE.

UM, NEXT I DO WANNA RECOGNIZE THE, UH, BARONA BAND OF MISSION INDIANS, AND THEY WERE PLANNING ON BEING HERE ALSO, BUT THEY ARE NOT ABLE TO.

UH, THEY HAVE BEEN A PLATINUM SPONSOR ALONG WITH WAN.

UM, THEY'VE BEEN A PLATINUM SPONSOR OF, FOR THIS EVENT SINCE THE

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BEGINNING IN 2014 WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THE EVENT, QUAN WAS PLANNING ON BEING HERE, CHAIRMAN CODY MARTINEZ, BUT WE WERE NOTIFIED ABOUT JUST BRIEFLY BEFORE THE MEETING.

HE AND THE SECRETARY, JANE MARTINEZ, WERE UNABLE TO MAKE IT AFTER ALL.

UH, WE DO PLAN ON DOING A PRESENTATION BEFORE THEM AND WITH THEM AT A LATER DATE.

NOT HERE AT COUNCIL, BUT AT ANOTHER LOCATION.

BUT WE DO WANNA RECOGNIZE THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS AND THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE EVENTS WITHIN THE CITY OF ELCON, HUNT FEST AND AMERICA ON MAIN STREET, THEY'VE BEEN A SPONSOR SINCE THE BEGINNING, SO THANK BOTH OF THEM.

AND LASTLY, I WANT TO ASK KATHY ZEMAN FROM THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS PARTNERS DIAMOND SPONSORSHIP, UM, ALL OF THE, THE PLATINUM AND GOLD LEVEL SPONSORS HAVE, WE'VE, WE ACTUALLY COMMISSIONED ST.

MALINE, SOPHIE CENTER.

UH, WE GOT THE IDEA FROM LAST TIME FROM ANOTHER GROUP.

SO THE CLIENTS AT ST.

MOUNT SOPHIE CENTER CAME UP WITH THESE MOSAICS AND WE HAD LITTLE PLAQUES MADE ON WITH THEM.

SO ST.

MOUNT SOPHIE CENTER, UM, CLIENTS ACTUALLY MADE THESE A, A AWARDS THAT WERE GIVEN OUT TO THE SPONSORS THIS YEAR.

AND KATHY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING.

YEAH, THAT, THAT'S A GREAT, THAT WAS A REALLY GREAT AWARDS.

THAT'S GREAT.

VERY NICE.

YES, THANK YOU.

WE, UH, WE LOVE BEING A PART OF AMERICA IN MAINE.

WE'RE ALWAYS AMAZED WHAT A GREAT JOB FRANK AND REC DEPARTMENT DO AT PUTTING ON THE EVENT.

AND IT'S JUST A GREAT THING TO BE A PART OF.

AND IT WAS REALLY SUCCESSFUL THIS YEAR.

LOTS OF PEOPLE.

AND WE HAD A GREAT TIME.

THANK YOU FOR BEING INVOLVED.

THANKS.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.

THANKS, FRANK.

GREAT JOB.

UH, PLEASE GIVE OUR BEST TO THE ENTIRE STAFF OF YOURS WHO I KNOW WORKED FOR THAT PROBABLY TWO OR THREE HOURS THAT IT WAS ALL DEPARTMENTS, THIS WAS ALL HANDS, IT WAS EVERYBODY, AND PROBABLY MORE SO FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS HELPING OUT.

SO GRATEFUL TO EVERYBODY INVOLVED.

HOW MANY WEEKS OR MONTHS DOES IT TAKE TO PREPARE FOR THIS? USUALLY ABOUT 14 MONTHS FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT.

GOTCHA.

WELL, SOUNDS LIKE A CONSTANT BATTLE, BUT THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, LASTLY, WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY FAIR, WHICH I WILL READ.

BUT FIRST, WILL MR. LEWIS, VAL DIVA FROM MEDIA AND MARKETING, TELL US ABOUT THE UPCOMING SAN DIEGO COUNTY FAIR, LUIS? SO I'M NOT LUIS.

UH, HE, UH, OH, HE'S, HE'S, I'M TRISTAN HOLMAN.

I'M THE CHIEF COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER.

LUIS IS BACK, UH, SETTING UP, ACTUALLY FOR OUR MEDIA PREVIEW TOMORROW, WHERE WE'LL GIVE A SNEAK PEEK ON THE PADDOCK, UH, OF OUR, UH, FAIRGROUNDS TO, TO MEDIA.

SO YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE THAT ON, ON SOME MORNING AND NEWS SHOWS AS WELL.

SO HE'S, UH, HE'S HARD AT WORK ON THAT.

SO I'M HERE IN STEAD.

UM, BUT I DID WANT TO, UH, I DID WANNA SAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, FOR HAVING US.

UM, WOULD, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO SPEAK NOW OR, OR FOREVER HOLD MY PEACE? YEAH, YOU MAY SPEAK NOW.

UH, WELL, WELL, WELL, THANK YOU MAYOR, UM, FOR THIS PROCLAMATION.

I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO READ IT, BUT I, I DO WANNA SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT, I THINK I WAS HERE LAST YEAR.

WELL, I KNOW I WAS HERE LAST YEAR.

UH, I, I SORT OF GOT DEJA VU WALKING AND I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S, IT'S ALREADY THAT TIME AGAIN.

UM, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE ARE THE, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW IT AS THE DELMAR FAIR STILL, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A SHORT PERIOD OF OUR ENTIRE HISTORY DATING BACK TO 1880 WHEN IT WAS CALLED THAT.

BUT IT IS, IT IS TRULY THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY FAIR BECAUSE WE REPRESENT THE ENTIRETY OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY.

SO IT WAS, IT WAS GREAT TO WALK IN HERE AGAIN AND, AND, UH, SPEND TIME IN EL CAJON.

I HAVE FAMILY HERE, SO I'M HERE ALL THE TIME.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE EL CAJON VERY WELL REPRESENTED AT OUR FAIR THIS YEAR.

AND, AND I HOPE THAT EVERYONE HERE, UH, CAN MAKE IT OUT.

WE'RE VERY EXCITED.

IT OPENS JUNE 12TH, UH, THROUGH JULY 7TH THIS YEAR.

UH, SO IT'S GONNA BE 20 DAYS LIMITED TIME.

UM, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE ALL OF YOU OUT THERE.

IT'D BE GREAT TO SEE YOUR CONSTITUENTS.

UH, IT REALLY IS UNIQUE IN, IN A LOT OF WAYS.

AND, AND ONE OF WHICH, I KNOW IT TALKS ABOUT THIS IN THE, IN THE PROCLAMATION, BUT, UM, IT IS A COMMUNITY CELEBRATION.

IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU CAN GO TO SEE WORLD OR DISNEY WORLD AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH ANY OF THOSE THINGS, BUT THIS IS TRULY A REPRESENTATION OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY.

AND IT'S, UH, WHILE THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT OBVIOUSLY WE BRING TO SAN DIEGO COUNTY FROM ELSEWHERE, UM, THIS IS OUR SUMMER PARTY AND THIS IS REALLY WHERE SUMMER STARTS.

SO, UH, WITH THAT, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THIS PROCLAMATION, AND I'LL, UM, TURN IT BACK TO YOU.

OF COURSE.

IT'S A VERY LONG PROCLAMATION.

SO IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'LL SKIP TO THE END AND PLEASE DO, YES, THE IMPORTANT PART NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT I BILL WELLS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF EL CAJON, ALONG WITH ALL THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JUNE 12TH, 2024 AS SAN DIEGO COUNTY FAIR DAY IN THE CITY OF EL CAJON, AND RECOGNIZE THAT THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY FAIR'S LONGSTANDING SIGNIFICANCE TO OUR DIVERSE COMMUNITIES AND THE, THE CITY OF EL CAJONS CONNECTION TO THIS CHERISHED TRADITION.

AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND THAT'S DATED, UH, THE 14TH DAY OF MAY, 2024.

THANK

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YOU.

THANKS FOR COMING.

AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE, TO THE FAIR.

I LOOK FORWARD TO COMING TO THE FAIR.

IT'S ALWAYS BEEN FUN.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING YOU.

CONSENT ITEMS ARE ROUTINE MATTERS AND ENACT BY ONE MOTION ACCORDING TO THE RECOMMENDATION LISTED BELOW WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

ALRIGHT, WE'RE AN AGENDA, CHANGE OF STAFF.

DO YOU HAVE ANY? NO, SIR.

COUNCIL MEMBERS? OKAY.

UH, WE'RE CONSENT ITEMS.

[7. CONSENT ITEMS: Consent Items are routine matters enacted by one motion according to the RECOMMENDATION listed below. With the concurrence of the City Council, a Council Member or person in attendance may request discussion of a Consent Item at this time.]

COUNCIL MEMBER OR PERSON IN ATTENDANCE MAY REQUEST DISCUSSION OF A CONSENT ITEM AT THIS TIME.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO YOU WISH TO PULL ANY OF THE CONSENT ITEMS? OKAY, STAFF? NO, SIR.

JEN, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR CONSENT ITEMS? THERE'S NO SPEAKER CARDS, SIR.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THEN TO APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS. SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

ALRIGHT, WE ARE AT PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS A MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE EL CAJON REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

COMMENTS RELATING TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA ALREADY BE TAKEN AT THE TIME THAT THE ITEM IS HURT.

STATE LAW PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

HOWEVER, CITY COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND TO STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS, AND AN ITEM MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

JEN, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? THERE ARE NO SPEAKER CARDS, SIR.

REPORTS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

THERE ARE NO WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS OR PUBLIC HEARINGS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

WE HAVE FOUR ADMINISTRATIVE

[13. San Diego State University Graduate Students Study of the City's Digital Permit Systems and Protocols RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council receives the report and provides feedback or direction to staff. ]

ITEM 13 IS A REPORT ON SDSU GRADUATE STUDENT STUDY ON THE CITY'S DIGITAL PERMIT SYSTEMS. I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR STAFF TO TELL US ALL ABOUT THIS.

HELLO, TONY.

WELCOME.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR COUNCIL.

THE CITY COUNCIL IDENTIFIED EARLIER IN THE YEAR, UH, AT THEIR, UM, GOAL SETTING, AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY.

UM, AND THAT WAS TO ANALYZE THE CITY'S DIGITAL PERMITTING SYSTEM.

AND IN DOING SO, UM, IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THAT, UH, CITY STAFF REACHED OUT TO SAN DIEGO STATE, UM, PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION, UH, SCHOOL, AND, UM, UH, SECURED A CAPSTONE GRADUATE TEAM, NICK AND RICHARD TO ANALYZE THE CITY'S DIGITAL PERMITTING SYSTEM.

AND THEY'D NOW LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THEIR FINDINGS AND A PRESENTATION TO YOU.

THANK YOU, TONY.

GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR COMING AND THANKS FOR PUTTING ALL THIS EFFORT INTO THIS PROJECT.

UH, THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UH, AS TONY SAID, MY NAME IS RICHARD DIPLO.

I'M A, UH, GRADUATE STUDENT FROM SAN DIEGO STATE.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

AND MY NAME IS NICK LUBER.

AND, UH, AS STATED, WE ARE RECENT GRADUATES FROM SAN DIEGO STATE, THE MASTERS OF PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION PROGRAM.

AND AS PART OF OUR REQUIREMENTS WITH, FOR THE DEGREE, WE WERE TASKED TO PERFORM A CAPSTONE PROJECT, WHICH WE WERE PARTNERED WITH CITY OF EL CAJON, WHICH HAS BEEN A LONGSTANDING PARTNER OF THE SCHOOL.

AND WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO WORK WITH TONY STAFF ON, ON THIS, ON THIS MISSION.

AND, UH, SO LET'S BEGIN.

SO IN SUMMARY, IN 2023, THE CITY PROCESSED 3,600 DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES, WHICH ADDED ABOUT $116 MILLION OF VALUE TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY.

ECONOMY AND PERMITTING IS A, IS ESSENTIAL TO THAT ACTIVITY, TO THAT PROCESS WITH THE PURPOSE OF FACILITATING ORALLY GROWTH, DEVELOPMENT, AND REDEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY THROUGH THE APPLICATION AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE GENERAL PLAN.

THE ZONING AND THE BUILDING CODES AND THE PERMITTING ACT AS A MECHANISM TO COMMUNICATE THOSE REQUIREMENTS AND ENSURE THEIR COMPLIANCE THROUGH ALL PHASES OF THE PROJECT.

AND AT ITS CORE, PERMITS A SERVICE LIKE ANY OTHER, RIGHT? PEOPLE'S ASSESSMENT DEPENDS ON MANY FACTORS, AND THAT'S WHAT OUR RESEARCH REVOLVED AROUND, UNDERSTANDING THOSE EXPECTATIONS AND TRANSLATING THEM INTO TANGIBLE, CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK THAT THE CITY CAN USE TO IMPROVE THAT PROCESS.

SO WITH THAT, OUR OBJECTIVE WAS TO IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE THE EXPERIENCE FOR YOUR CUSTOMERS AND, AND ENSURE, MAXIMIZE THE PUBLIC GAIN TO THE, UH, TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO IN OUR PROJECT, WE IDENTIFIED THREE MAIN FUNCTIONS THAT WE FOUND HAD THE MOST INFLUENCE ON THAT EXPERIENCE.

AND THE FIRST IS THE PERMANENT APPROVAL, TIMELINESS, CONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, IT'S PROJECTS, TIME IS MONEY.

SO EVERYBODY'S MOST AMAZINGLY CONCERNED WITH THAT ASPECT IN THEIR PROCESS.

AND, AND THAT'S HOW THEY, UH, GAUGE A LOT OF THEIR SATISFACTION.

AND THEN SECONDLY WAS THE PROJECT ASSISTANCE CENTER ONLINE, WHICH IS COINED AS PACO, WHICH IS POWERED BY SOFTWARE CALLED INTER GOV.

AND THAT'S

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A, THAT'S A PLATFORM THAT THIS A DIGITAL PLATFORM THAT THE CITY USES TO PROCESS ALL THEIR PERMITS.

IT'S A, IT'S A CELL SERVICE PORTAL FOR THE CUSTOMERS.

AND THEN ALSO STAFF HAVE, HAVE A, A, A PLATFORM THAT THEY MONITOR THE, UH, THE APPROVAL PROCESSES AND, AND SO FORTH.

AND THEN LASTLY IS THE STAFF RESPONSIVENESS OF THE PROCESS.

OBVIOUSLY ALL THE, WITH ALL THE DIGITAL TOOLS, STAFF IS STAFF AND HUMAN ENGAGEMENT IS AT THE, IS AT THE FOREFRONT OF MAKING THE, ANY, ANY OF THAT SUCCESSFUL.

SO WE LOOKED AT, UH, EVALUATED THAT AS WELL.

AND THROUGH THAT, WE FOUND THESE THREE AREAS OF IMPROVEMENT THAT WE'LL BE LOOKING, THAT WE'LL BE RECOMMENDING SOME IMPROVEMENTS FROM.

AND THAT WAS THE PERMIT STATUS AND THE NOTIFICATIONS, THE POST-IT PERMIT INFORMATION AND THE EDUCATION MATERIALS THAT ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE.

AND LASTLY, INCLUDING A CUSTOMER FEEDBACK OPPORTUNITY IN, IN THE OVERALL PROCESS.

SO FOR OUR RESEARCH, WE USED A MIXED METHODS, UH, WHICH IS BOTH, UH, SURVEY DATA AND INTERVIEW DATA.

UH, SO WE DID SEND A SURVEY OUT TO PACO USERS, AND IT WAS ALSO LINKED ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE.

UH, WE ENDED UP GETTING 175 RESPONSES TO THAT SURVEY.

UH, WE DID INTERVIEWS AND OBSERVATIONS WITH STAKEHOLDERS AND OF THE DEPARTMENT, UH, AND WE, UH, DID A THEMATIC ANALYSIS OF ALL THAT DATA TO TRY TO COME UP WITH, UH, SOME COMPREHENSIVE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THE CITY CAN USE, UH, TO IMPROVE THEIR PERMITTING PROCESS.

SO THESE ARE, THESE ARE THE TRENDS THAT WE, UM, FOUND.

THIS IS SUMMARY OF THE TRENDS THAT WE FOUND, AND WE, WE USED, UH, BASED ON THE CUSTOMER TYPE RESPONSES, AND WE USED, UH, WE GROUPED THE CUSTOMERS IN AN OWNER AND REPRESENTATIVE TYPES.

WE FOUND THOSE CHARACTERISTICS HAD THE MOST INFLUENCE ON THE OUTCOME.

SO OWNERS ARE YOUR EVERYDAY HOMEOWNER THAT DECIDES TO DO A PERMIT PROCESS ON THEIR OWN.

MAYBE IT'S A, A SIMPLE, UH, WATER HEATER REPLACEMENT, OR IT COULD BE A FULL ON REMODEL PROJECT THAT THEY CHOOSE TO TAKE ON THEMSELVES, HIRE THEIR OWN CONTRACTORS, AND FACILITATE THE PERMIT PROCESS THEMSELVES.

AND THEN THE REPRESENTATIVES, THOSE ARE DEFINED AS THE PROFESSIONALS, LIKE CONTRACTORS, ARCHITECTS, UH, DEVELOPERS THAT OWNERS HIRE TO DO THAT PROCESS FOR THEM.

SO LOGICALLY YOU CAN IMAGINE THERE, THERE BEING DIFFERENT CHARACTERISTICS TO THE TO AND THEIR RESPONSE TO THE PROCESS BASED ON THEIR BACKGROUNDS AND EXPERIENCE AND JUST KNOWLEDGE IN THE PROCESS.

SO WHAT WE FOUND WAS OWNERS ARE LESS SATISFIED WITH THE COMPLEX PERMIT APPROVAL TIMES AND COMPLEX PERMITS ARE USUALLY YOUR FULL ON REMODELS.

YOU KNOW, THEY REQUIRE MULTI-DISCIPLINE PERMITS.

THEY REQUIRE PLANS, THEY REQUIRE SPECIFICATIONS AND MORE INVOLVED DOCUMENTATION.

AND THEN REPRESENTATIVES HAVE MORE PERMITTING EXPERIENCE THEORETICAL.

SO, AND REPRESENTATIVES BELIEVE THAT PACO AND THE PERMIT PROCESS WAS MORE EFFICIENT.

AND PACO SYSTEM HAD SIGNIFICANT INFLUENCE ON THE OVERALL SATISFACTION OF ANY CUSTOMER TYPE.

AND THEN WE FOUND THAT PERMIT DELAYS WERE OFTEN LINKED TO INA INADEQUATE CUSTOMER INFORMATION THAT WAS AVAILABLE ON THE, UH, ON THE WEBSITES.

AND THEN CUSTOMERS OVERALL EMPHASIZE THE NEED FOR IMPROVED COMMUNICA COMMUNICATION.

SO WITH OUR SURVEY, WE DID HAVE FIVE MAIN FACTORS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR SATISFACTION.

AND WE DID THE FIRST, UH, WAS EASE OF USE OF THE PACO SYSTEM.

THAT CAME WITH A MEAN AVERAGE OF 6.2.

UH, FOR VISUAL DESIGN AND LAYOUT, THAT WAS A MEAN AVERAGE OF 6.1.

UH, FOR PERMIT TIMELINESS, WE HAD A 6.2 MEAN, UH, FOR GENERAL SATISFACTION 6.1 AND FOR STAFF RESPONSIVENESS 6.1 AS WELL, UH, MEAN AVERAGES IS WHERE WE KIND OF ADD EVERYTHING ALL UP AND DIVIDE BY THE NUMBER OF RESPONSES THAT WE GOT.

SO IT CAN BE SKEWED BY SOME OUTLIER NUMBERS.

JUST A FEW ZEROS ARE ENOUGH TO PULL WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN A SATISFACTORY RESPONSE DOWN.

UH, SO WE ALSO ANALYZED OUR RESPONSES USING THE MEDIAN SCORE.

AND IF YOU THINK OF THE MEDIAN SCORE AS A SEESAW, THE MEDIAN IS THE NUMBER THAT'S RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE.

SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE MEDIAN SCORE, FOUR OF OUR FIVE CATEGORIES WERE ACTUALLY SATISFACTORY.

UH, MEANING THEIR SCORES 50% WERE SEVEN OR HIGHER.

UH, SO THAT DID CONFIRM TO US THAT THERE WERE JUST A FEW OUTLIERS IN THE NUMBERS THAT KIND OF SKEWED THE NUMBERS DOWN A LITTLE BIT.

WITH THE EXCEPTION OF PERMIT TIMELINESS.

THAT MEDIAN SCORE ALSO MATCHED WHAT WE GOT FOR THE MEAN.

SO A LOT OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, WERE FOCUSING ON TIMELINESS AS WELL.

SO OUR DATA WAS BOTH QUANTITATIVE AND QUALITATIVE.

SO THE QUALITATIVE DATA CONSISTS OF INTERVIEWS, OBSERVATIONS, OPEN-ENDED RESPONSES THAT WE ASKED, UH, SURVEY PARTICIPANTS TO ANSWER, JUST, JUST WRITING PARAGRAPHS OF WHAT THEY FELT LIKE.

SO WE FOCUS ON THE INTERNAL, THE INTERNAL, UH, DATA, WHICH WE FIRST STARTED WITH LOOKING AT THE STAFF, THE, THE CULTURE, THE, UH, ORGANIZATIONAL DYNAMICS OF THE, OF THE DEPARTMENT.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE PROCESS FUNDAMENTALLY DEPENDENT ON STAFF PERFORMANCE.

SO IT WAS CRITICAL TO INCLUDE THAT RESEARCH.

AND WHAT WE FOUND WAS, YOU KNOW,

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A COHESIVE, WELL GROUP LED GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO WERE TRULY PASSIONATE ABOUT THEIR WORK.

AND, AND RICHARD AND I JOKED ABOUT THIS, THIS WOULD BE A PLACE WE, WE'D ACTUALLY WANNA WORK, YOU KNOW, HAVE HIM SPEND TIME WITH, WITH TONY'S STAFF.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A, THAT WAS A GOOD, A GOOD FEELING.

AND WE, WE MADE THOSE CONCLUSIONS THROUGH OBJECTIVE OBSERVATIONS.

AND THE FIRST IS THE INTERNAL CONTROLS THAT THE DEPARTMENT HAS IN PLACE.

THEY HAVE THIS THREE TO ONE RULE WHERE THEY HOLD STAFF ACCOUNTABLE FOR REVIEWING THE FIRST PERMIT CYCLE IN THREE WEEKS, THE SECOND AND TWO WEEKS, AND THEN THE THIRD AND IN ONE WEEK.

AND THERE'S ACCOUNTABILITY TO THAT.

THERE'S WEEKLY, UH, MEETINGS THAT ARE HELD AND IDENTIFIED, YOU KNOW, THE, THE AREAS THAT ARE LACKING BEHIND.

AND THEN THEIR DEDICATION TO SERVICE IS EVIDENT THROUGH THEIR, THROUGH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF COMMITTEES THAT ARE COINED THIS DIRT AND PIT, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW TEAM AND THE PERMANENT IMPROVEMENT TEAM.

AND THEY MEET ON A REGULAR BASIS TO DISCUSS CHALLENGES AND PREPARE FOR UPCOMING, UH, BIG PERMITS AND CONTINUOUSLY LEARNING FROM THE PAST EXPERIENCE TO IMPROVE THE PROCESS.

AND RICHARD AND I BOTH WORK AT PUBLIC AGENCIES SO WE CAN RELATE TO THE, UH, TO THE NEED FOR STAFF TO HAVE A INTRINSICALLY FOCUSED MINDSET, RIGHT? AND, AND THAT'S, THAT'S IN, IN SUMMARY WHAT WE SAW ON THE STAFF, YOU KNOW, STRONG IN-HOUSE EXPERTISE AND FOLKS THAT ARE JUST TRULY PASSIONATE AND CARE ABOUT WHAT THEY DO.

SO YOUR, YOUR CONSTITUENTS SHOULD, SHOULD FEEL, SHOULD FEEL AT EASE THAT, THAT THE, THE, THE PEOPLE PROCESSING THE PERMITS ARE DOING THEIR BEST.

AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY FOUND NOTHING THERE TO THAT NEEDED IMPROVEMENT.

NOW THE OTHER SIDE OF THE, UH, QUALITATIVE DATA WAS FROM OUR EXTERNAL DATA COLLECTION, WHICH WAS THE OPEN-ENDED RESPONSES TO THE SURVEY.

AND WE COLLECTED 40 RESPONSES.

AND THERE THEY WERE, THEY WERE, UH, CODED AS SUCH.

SOME, SOME WERE JUST NEGATIVE, JUST RANT.

SOME, SOME PEOPLE WERE JUST POSITIVE, HAD A GOOD EXPERIENCE, NOTHING, NOTHING ELSE TO SAY.

AND ABOUT 50% OF THEM FOCUSED AROUND THE USER INTERFACE AND NOTIFICATIONS AREA OF THE PROCESS THAT WE FOCUSED OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ON THAT WE'LL BE DESCRIBING.

NEXT.

UH, FINALLY WE'RE GONNA GO FOR OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

OUR REPORT HAD ABOUT 20 RECOMMENDATIONS IN THERE.

WE CHOSE, UH, JUST SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THAT WE THOUGHT OF AT THE TIME, UH, FOR THIS PRESENTATION.

SO THE FIRST ONE IS THE, UH, STATUS NOTIFICATION.

WE HAD A LOT OF COMMENTS, UH, ABOUT THE STATUS WHEEL NOT BEING AS ADVANTAGEOUS AS IT COULD BE.

UH, YOU KNOW, MEANING SOME PEOPLE COULDN'T ACCURATELY DETERMINE WHERE THEIR PERMIT WAS IN THE PROCESS.

UH, SO WE USE THE DOMINO PIZZA TRACKER TO KIND OF CREATE A NOTIFICATION SYSTEM THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE HELPFUL FOR PEOPLE APPLYING FOR PERMITS.

AND SO INSTEAD OF USING A WHEEL WITH PERCENTAGES, WE CAN DO THE MAJOR MILESTONES IN ORDER FOR APPROVAL.

AND THEN THE SUBSTEPS NEEDED TO BE TAKEN FOR THOSE MILESTONES.

UH, THIS IS ONE, A SIMPLE PERMIT WITHOUT ANY REVIEW, BUT YOU CAN ALSO ADD A REVIEW TO IT AND IT CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, IF A REVIEW FAILS, THEY'LL SEE WHICH ONES FAILED, WHERE THEY NEED TO GO.

AND SO, UH, THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF IT CAN BE DONE WITH INTER GOV SINCE THAT IS AN EXTERNAL SYSTEM, BUT THE CITY MIGHT BE ABLE TO CREATE A, A, SOME SORT OF DOCUMENT ON THEIR OWN AND UPLOADED INTO A PACO PERMIT FILE.

ALRIGHT, SO NEXT IS, IS ADDING THIS TYPE OF FLOW CHART TO SOMEWHERE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE THAT KIND OF VISUALLY ILLUSTRATES THE PROCESS.

NOW, THIS ISN'T SPECIFIC TO THE CITY, BUT WE BORROWED THIS FROM ANOTHER, UH, TOWN, TOWN OF WESTLAKE THAT COULDN'T TELL YOU THAT IS SOMEWHERE IN GOOGLE'S .

BUT, UH, THEY, THEY USE THIS TO, AND YOU CAN SEE IT, IT'S SOMEWHAT OF A COMPLICATED PROCESS AND IT CAN GO MANY DIRECTIONS.

AND HUMANS ARE, ARE MORE APT TO LOOK UNDERSTANDING THINGS VISUALLY THAN, THAN A BUNCH OF WORDS AND PARAGRAPHS DESCRIBED IN THE PROCESS.

SO THIS COULD BE USED AS A GATEWAY.

YOU COULD HAVE LINKS ATTACHED TO THESE BOXES THAT CAN THEN TAKE 'EM TO DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE, OF THE WEBSITE AND THE PROCESS.

UH, STAFF CAN USE THIS ONE EXHIBIT TO EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS, WHAT'S TO COME, WHAT'S TO EXPECT.

AND THAT WOULD REALLY LEVEL THEIR EXPECTATIONS IN A MORE REALISTIC MANNER.

AND IT, AND IT IS JUST A, YOU KNOW, IT'S EASY TO DO AND SOMETHING THAT THE CITY ISN'T IMPLEMENTING THAT WOULD BE A CHEAP AND QUICK ADDITION TO THEIR PROCESS.

NOW, NEXT ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE FOUND THE DELAYS WERE ASSOCIATED WITH PEOPLE JUST NOT KNOWING THE REQUIREMENTS, THE DOCUMENTS THEY NEED TO SUBMIT.

SO THEN THEY SUBMIT AN INCOMPLETE SUBMITTAL, IT GETS RETURNED, STAFF HAVE TO SPEND TIME EXPLAINING IT TO THEM OVER THE PHONE.

AND OVERALL IT JUST DELAYS THE PROCESS.

SO THIS IS ANOTHER MEASURE THAT WE BORROWED FROM THE CITY OF ENCINITAS.

THEY HAVE THEIR APPLICATIONS AND FORMS ORGANIZED BY, BY TYPES OF PERMITS.

SO SAY FOR EXAMPLE, YOU WERE, YOU WERE PLANNING TO DO A BUILDING REMODEL, YOU WANTED TO KNOW WHAT KIND OF, UM, UH, ADDITION.

SO YOU CLICK ON BUILDING, THEN THE BUILDING LISTS, ALL THE TYPE OF BUILDING PERMITS.

THEY ARE YOU, YOU CLICK THE ADDITION PERMIT APPLICATION.

AND HERE YOU HAVE ALL THE APP, ALL THE FORMS, ALL THE APPLICATIONS

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WITH LINKS TO THEM BECAUSE THERE'S PROBABLY 30, 50 OTHER FORMS THAT THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT THEY DON'T NEED TO KNOW ABOUT, THAT THEY DON'T NEED TO BE CONFUSED WITH.

THEY JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT THEY NEED FOR THE, FOR THE PERMIT TYPE THAT THEY'RE DOING.

SO THIS GIVES THEM A FIGHTING CHANCE ON GETTING THE, THAT AT LEAST THAT RIGHT INFORMATION IN FRONT OF YOUR STAFF.

AND ALSO LESSENS THE, UH, THE BURDEN ON YOUR STAFF TO HAVE TO EXPLAIN AND VET THROUGH ALL THE KIND OF THE NONSENSE OR THE WRONG INFORMATION THAT THEY MAY, MAY BE SUBMITTED JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE THEY MIGHT BE THE FIRST TIME DOING A PERMIT.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE JUST A, A HOMEOWNER THAT'S DOING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME.

SO THE, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS HAVE TO APPEAL TO EVERYBODY THAT'S, THAT WALKS TO YOUR DOOR.

AND THIS IS A WAY TO, TO LEVEL THAT PLAYING FIELD.

AND OUR FINAL MAJOR RECOMMENDATION IS TO INTEGRATE REGULAR CUSTOMER FEEDBACK.

THE SURVEY THAT WE DISTRIBUTED HAD ABOUT 40 QUESTIONS, AND THAT'S A LITTLE OVERKILL FOR JUST BASIC FEEDBACK.

UH, SO WE DID CREATE A SURVEY.

IT IS FIVE QUESTIONS AND AN OPEN RESPONSE.

IT IS IN THE APPENDIX OF A REPORT.

THIS WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR THE CITY AND THE DEPARTMENT, ESPECIALLY AS NEW STATE MANDATED REQUIREMENTS COME OUT.

AND, UH, THE BURDEN IS ON THE CITY OR THE DEPARTMENT TO IMPLEMENT THOSE MANDATES, UH, THESE CUSTOMER FEEDBACKS.

OR IT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY NEGATIVE OR POSITIVE TRENDS, THINGS THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE CORRECTED, OR THINGS THAT COULD BE USED AND ENHANCED IN OTHER AR UH, AREAS.

UH, SO AGAIN, THE, UH, FULL SURVEY QUESTIONS WE HAVE IS IN THE APPENDIX IF THE DEPARTMENT DID WANT TO IMPLEMENT THIS.

AND, UH, WE DO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

GREAT REPORT.

UH, LET ME SEE IF WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL.

STEVE, THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO KIND OF LOOK UNDER THE HOOD OF HOW THINGS ARE GOING.

SO, UH, WE APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS FOR SURE.

DID YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO GO THROUGH THE PACO SYSTEM YOURSELF AND EXPERIENCE WHAT A HOMEOWNER WOULD EXPERIENCE? UH, I DID A NUMBER OF TIMES.

UM, ANDRE IN THE DEPARTMENT HELPED ME OUT.

UH, WE DID A COUPLE, UH, DIFFERENT PERMITS JUST TO SEE THE PROCESS.

UM, I COULD SAY DOING IT THE FIRST TIME WAS A LITTLE CONFUSING.

'CAUSE AGAIN, I DID NOT KIND OF KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE SYSTEM, BUT THE THIRD AND FOURTH TIME ANDRE WENT THROUGH IT WITH ME, I KIND OF, IT, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING CLICKED.

SO OUR REPORT AND RECOMMENDATIONS REALLY FOCUSES ON THAT, YOU KNOW, FIRST TIME USER, THE PERSON THAT IS NOT SURE, UM, EXACTLY WHAT TO DO.

AND DID YOU FIND OUT THROUGH THE INTER GOV SOFTWARE WHAT CAN BE MODIFIED OR WHAT CAN'T BE MODIFIED REGARDING YOUR SUGGESTIONS? UH, I ACTUALLY DID REACH OUT TO INTER GOV AND THEY DID NOT RESPOND TO MY, UH, REQUEST.

UH, IF WE DID HAVE MORE TIME, IF IT WASN'T A STUDENT BASED PROJECT, I, I ASSUME THEY PROBABLY WOULD'VE GONE BACK TO US.

OKAY, GREAT.

BUT, BUT ON THAT NOTE, YOUR, YOUR STAFF SEEMS TO BE VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE HOW TO WORK WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE SYSTEM.

SO SOME OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THE NOTIFICATIONS THAT WE PRESENTED ANDRE AND TONY'S PEOPLE, THEY, THEY KNEW A WAY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN WITH KNOWING WHAT THE SOFTWARE CAN DO WITHOUT HAVING TO GET INTO THE BACKEND OF IT AND REPROGRAM THINGS.

SO WE WERE ACTUALLY PRETTY IMPRESSED SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE RECOMMENDED, THEY'VE ALREADY IMPLEMENTING AND THEY'RE ABLE TO FIND A WAY TO DO.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S THAT IN-HOUSE KNOWLEDGE, THAT EXPERTISE THAT IS VERY VALUABLE.

YOU KNOW, OTHER, OTHER AGENCIES I KNOW USE CONSULTANTS, THIRD PARTY PROVIDERS THAT ANY, ANY, ANY LITTLE CHANGE THEY HAVE TO MAKE, THEY HAVE TO REACH OUT, PAY FOR, IT TAKES TIME.

SO YOUR FOLKS WERE ABLE TO, TO ACTUALLY BE QUITE EFFECTIVE IN MOST OF THE THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE.

SO, YEAH, SO THAT, THANK YOU AGAIN, VERY THOROUGH REPORT, AND, UH, WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS, UM, PUTTING THE TIME IN AND WORKING WITH OUR STAFF TO, UH, MAKE OUR CITY BETTER.

UM, I HAD A MAYBE QUESTION, OR MAYBE YOU COULD EXPAND ON IT WITH REGARD TO THAT, PACO WAS THE BIGGEST INFLUENCE ON OVERALL SATISFACTION.

AND DO YOU THINK THAT WAS DETERMINED JUST BECAUSE THE AVERAGE USER IS USING PACO THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME? IS THAT THE THING THAT THEY'RE INTERFACING WITH THE MOST? AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS DETERMINED, RIGHT? SO PRETTY MUCH 99% OF THE PERMITS ARE BEING PROCESSED THROUGH THE SYSTEM.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF, IT HAS A LOT OF IMPACT ON THE PROCESS.

SO THAT'S WHY WE, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THE PERMITTING PROCESS IS COMPLICATED.

THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT NUANCES.

WE WANT TO FOCUS ON THE THINGS THAT HAVE THE MOST IMPACT.

AND THIS IS WHERE A LOT OF THE TRACTION HAPPENS.

THIS IS WHERE THE, THE DEVELOPERS RELY ON IT TO COMMUNICATE THE PROGRESS STATUS TO THEIR CLIENTS.

SO IF THEY CAN'T GET STATUS OUT OF THERE ACCURATELY OR QUICK ENOUGH, THEN THEY LOOK POORLY IN FRONT OF THEIR CLIENTS.

SO THAT'S WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM.

THE, THE, THE PRIVATE HOMEOWNERS, THIS IS THEIR FIRST INTERACTION WITH THE SYSTEM.

THIS IS HOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO ENTER EVERYTHING.

SO THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GET ON THE PHONE AND CALL, CALL YOU, CALL THE STAFF IN ORDER TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

THEY, THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THEIR WHOLE PROCESS ON THEIR OWN.

SO THAT'S WHY IT HAS SUCH A BIG INFLUENCE ON, AND THAT'S WHERE, AND I THINK YOUR STAFF IS ON THE

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SAME PAGE.

THAT'S WHERE YOU NEED TO KEEP INVESTING, KEEP DEVELOPING AND KEEP FOCUSING ON, ON THOSE ENHANCEMENTS.

AND, AND TO SEE THE SURVEY WE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, WE WERE ACTUALLY AMAZED HOW, HOW MUCH INPUT THAT PEOPLE TOOK THEIR TIME TO, I MEAN, THIS IS 40 QUESTIONS, IT PROBABLY TOOK 'EM FIVE, SIX MINUTES TO FILL OUT.

AND MOST PEOPLE, WHEN I GET A SURVEY LIKE THAT IN THE EMAIL, I JUST DISCARDED, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO WASTE MY TIME.

BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE, ABOUT 7% OF WHO REACHED OUT TO, TOOK THE TIME TO DO, WHICH IS A FAIRLY GOOD TURNOUT FOR THOSE KIND OF THINGS.

SO THAT'S WHY WE ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO ALSO INCLUDE THAT IN YOUR PROCESS, BECAUSE PEOPLE DO TAKE THE TIME AND, AND GIVE FEEDBACK.

THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE IN THE, YOU'RE IN THE WEEDS, YOU'RE LIVING IT EVERY DAY.

YOU MAY NOT SEE CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE NOT OBVIOUS TO, TO YOU.

SO THAT, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU GUYS SHOULD LEVERAGE QUITE HEAVILY MOVING FORWARD.

UH, AND FOR THIS PRESENTATION, WE DID TAKE OUT SOME OF THE ACADEMIC, UH, ASPECTS OF IT TO TRY TO SHORTEN IT UP.

BUT, UM, STATISTICALLY THE STA UH, SATISFACTION RATING ON THE PACO SYSTEM WAS A SIGNIFICANT, UH, IN TERMS OF EVERY OTHER SATISFACTION SCORE, IT HAD A SIGNIFICANT RELATIONSHIP WITH EVERY SINGLE ONE.

SO WE DID NOTICE THAT, UH, WHILE SOME PEOPLE MAY HAVE, UH, IMPORTANT FEELINGS TOWARDS ONE THING OR THE OTHER, UH, OVERALL SATISFACTION FOR EVERY OTHER SCORE WAS REALLY DEPENDENT ON PEOPLE'S SATISFACTION WITH PACO.

WELL, IT, I APPRECIATE THE, THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU GAVE FOR THE AREAS OF IMPROVEMENT, AND THEY WERE CENTERED AROUND HOW CAN WE CAST A BETTER VISION OF WHAT'S TO COME FOR THE CLIENT, WHETHER IT'S A NEW CLIENT OR A, YOU KNOW, RETURNING CLIENT THAT'S FAMILIAR WITH PACO IN CORRELATION WITH, WHAT ARE THEY LOOKING AT THE MOST, LIKE THE DOMINO TRACKER, GIVE THEM AN IDEA OF WHAT, WHAT TO EXPECT, THE FLOW CHART, GIVE THEM, GIVE THEM AN IDEA OF WHAT TO EXPECT SO THEY'RE NOT FLYING BLIND.

SO YEAH, I, I, I'M ENCOURAGED, I'M ENCOURAGED BY YOUR FEEDBACK ABOUT HOW DEDICATED OUR STAFF IS.

I THINK THAT'S FANTASTIC.

IT LOOKS LIKE WE JUST HAVE A COUPLE AREAS THAT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A HEAVY LIFT.

I DON'T KNOW.

I'M NOT IN TECH, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW HARD IT WOULD BE TO INTEGRATE A DOMINO TRACKER INTO THE P SYSTEM, BUT, UM, NOW I'M ENCOURAGED BY, BY THIS REPORT AND I THINK, UH, WE COULD MAKE SOME PRETTY GOOD CHANGES.

THEY'VE ALREADY GRADUATED.

ANYBODY ELSE? SELMA, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

I APPRECIATE IT.

I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE VERY USEFUL MOVING FORWARD.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

PLEASURE.

AND, AND WE'D LIKE TO INVITE MR. SHOOT UP TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY IMPLEMENTED.

SO YOU HAVE A SENSE.

AND, AND WHILE HE'S COMING UP, UM, I, I, MR. SHOOT AND I HAVE ALREADY SEEN THIS PRESENTATION AND AS WE WERE GOING OVER WHAT TO INCLUDE AND WHAT NOT TO INCLUDE, FOR EXAMPLE, TAKING OUT THE ACADEMIC STUFF, THEY WERE GOING TO TAKE OUT THE DOMINO TRACKER AND I SAID, YOU'VE GOTTA KEEP THE DOMINO TRACKER.

IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT VISUAL OF THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION.

AND, UH, I, I WATCHED YOU GUYS SPECIFICALLY, I SAW YOU ALL RESONATE WITH IT 'CAUSE YOU'VE USED IT OR SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT.

BUT BEFORE TONY SAYS, UH, SAYS HIS PIECE, I JUST WANT TO, UH, THANK THESE TWO GENTLEMEN FOR THEIR WORK.

I DUNNO ABOUT YOU, WHEN YOU, WHEN I FINISHED SCHOOL, I WAS KIND OF DONE WITH SCHOOL.

THEY'RE COMING BACK FOR MORE.

THEY, THEY'RE, THIS IS NOT AFFECTING THEIR GRADE.

THIS IS, UH, THEY'RE GOOD.

UH, HARDWORKING PUBLIC SERVANTS.

AS NICK INDICATED, THEY BOTH WORK IN THE, UH, PUBLIC SECTOR FOR OTHER AGENCIES.

AND SO I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

AND, UH, A SHOUT OUT TO, TO NICK WAS ONE OF MY FORMER STUDENTS.

SO ANYWAYS, I THOUGHT I'D GIVE HIM A KUDOS FOR THAT.

SO WITH THAT, MR. SHOOT, , THANK YOU GRAHAM.

AND AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK, UH, NICK AND RICHARD.

UM, AND IT'S GOOD TO HAVE AN OUTSIDE, UM, LOOK AT YOUR INTERNAL SYSTEMS AND HOW WE DO THINGS.

SO WE'VE, WE'VE TAKEN THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE'RE LOOKING AT WHERE WE CAN MAKE CHANGES.

UM, WE'LL DO WHAT WE CAN IN TERMS OF WORKING WITH TYLER TO SEE IF WE CAN MAKE SOME OF THOSE VISUAL CHANGES.

MAYBE GET RID OF THE WHEEL WITHOUT, UM, COMPROMISING ANY COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SEE IF WE GET THE DOMINO TRACKER IN THERE, WE'LL CALL IT SOMETHING ELSE OTHER THAN A, YOU KNOW, DOMINO TRACKER.

UM, OTHER CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE, UH, WE HAVE UPDATED THE A PACO HOMEPAGE SO THAT IT HAS ALL THE IMPORTANT LINKS NECESSARY TO THE RIGHT FORMS AND, AND, UH, FEES.

UM, WE'VE ALSO MADE IMPROVEMENTS TO AUTOMATED EMAILS THAT DON'T JUST GO TO THE, UM, UM, THE PERMIT, UM, APPLICANT OR RUNNER.

IT'S ALSO THE CONTRACTOR LISTED, THE ARCHITECT, THE ENGINEER.

EVERYBODY'S GETTING THE SAME INFORMATION.

SO THEIR TEAM IS, UM, RECEIVING EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO RECEIVE IN ORDER TO RESPOND EFFECTIVELY AND TIMELY.

UM, AND THEY HELP USER GUIDES ARE CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW BY STAFF TO HELP MAKE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WHERE WE NEED TO.

AND THEN SIMPLIFY THE PROCESS, ESPECIALLY FOR THE ONE AND ONLY TIME USER WHO'S GONNA JUST GET ONE PERMIT, MAYBE FOR A WATER HEATER OR A REROOF.

AND, AND JUST TO ADD TO THAT, THE REROOF, UM, WATER HEATERS, THOSE SIMPLE PERMITS WERE TURNING INTO

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OVER THE COUNTER SIMPLE, KINDA LIKE THE, UM, SOLAR APP WHERE YOU JUST SUBMIT, DO EVERYTHING WITHIN FIVE, 10 MINUTES, YOU HAVE A PERMIT.

UM, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE, UH, THOSE SAME CHANGES FOR MINOR PERMITS.

SO, UH, THE EXPERIENCE IS, UH, MUCH BETTER THAN IT IS TODAY.

UM, ANOTHER CITY COUNCIL GOAL, UM, AS, UM, AS PART OF THE, THE DEVELOPMENT AND PERMITTING SYSTEM IS THE, UH, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT AND PERMITTING ROUND TABLE THAT CITY COUNCIL IDENTIFIED.

AND OUR FIRST ROUND TABLE WILL BE JUNE 20TH, UM, AT 9:00 AM AT THE TOYOTA OF EL CAJON.

THEY'VE CONS, THEY HAVE ACCEPTED TO BE OUR HOST FOR THIS ROUND TABLE.

AND THIS IS WHERE WE'LL ENGAGE WITH, WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, UH, WITH BROKERS, REAL ESTATE, UH, FOLKS AND ANYBODY FOR THAT MATTER WHO WANTS TO COME AND, AND SHARE WITH US WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT OUR PERMITTING AND ENGAGEMENT SYSTEMS AND PROTOCOLS.

AND WE WANT TO HEAR THEIR IDEAS AND THOUGHTS.

UM, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HOPE TO DO, UH, TWICE A YEAR.

SO THE BEGINNING AT THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR AND THEN AT THE END OF THE YEAR.

AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

UH, JENNA, WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS ITEM? THERE ARE NO SPEAKER CARDS, SIR.

UM, LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REPORT.

SO MOVE SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

ITEM 14 IS A REVIEW ON SPEEDING ENFORCEMENT AND THE SPEED HUMP POLICY.

[14. Speeding Enforcement Review and Review of Speed Hump Policy RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council receives the report as an informational item and provides feedback to staff.]

I'LL ASK, UH, OUR CHIEF OF POLICE, MR. MIKE MOULTON TO PLEASE INTRODUCE THIS ITEM.

MI MR. MAYOR, WE HAVE A BIT OF A CHANGE IN, UH, SCHEDULE.

CAPTAIN JEREMIAH LARSON WILL BE GIVING THE PRESENTATION.

UH, THEY'VE BEEN WANTING TO DO THIS PRESENTATION FOR A WHILE, BUT I, I KIND OF HIJACKED IT AND INCLUDED A SPEED HUMP COMPONENT AS WELL.

SO I'LL LET CAPTAIN LARSON HANDLE THE ENFORCEMENT REVIEW AND THINGS THAT THEY HAVE DONE IN THIS PAST YEAR AND WHAT THEY'RE WORKING ON THIS UPCOMING YEAR.

AND THEN ONCE HE'S DONE, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, I'LL TALK ABOUT THE CITY'S CURRENT SPEED HUMP POLICY.

WELCOME CAPTAIN LARSON.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UH, SO I WON'T GET INTO THE MINUTIAE OF EVERYTHING THAT THE OFFICERS DO DAY TO DAY.

IT'S, UH, OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF WORK.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE MAKING A LOT OF EFFORTS OUT THERE IN THEIR ENFORCEMENT ACTION.

UH, SO SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS THAT WE DID IN 2023, UH, SPEED ENFORCEMENT IS ALWAYS A PRIORITY FOR US, UH, AS COMPARED TO 2022.

AS WE INCREASED OUR MOTOR OFFICERS FROM THREE TO FOUR.

UH, AND ONE OF THE REASONS WE WERE ABLE TO DO THIS IS BECAUSE OF THE 10 OVER HIRE POSITIONS THAT WERE AUTHORIZED, WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE OUR MOTOR OFFICERS, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANT.

UH, AND IN DOING SO, WE ALSO INCREASED, UH, OUR CITATIONS 154% FROM 2022 TO 2023, UH, TOTAL OF 1,337 CITATIONS WERE ISSUED BY OUR TRAFFIC DIVISION.

UH, 147 OF THOSE WERE SPEEDING CITATIONS.

UH, ADDITIONALLY SOME OF THE RESOURCES THAT WE UTILIZED, WE HAVE EIGHT SPEED DISPLAY SIGNS THAT WERE STRATEGICALLY PLACED THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

OUR PUBLIX WORKS DEPARTMENT HAS, UH, HELPED US SIGNIFICANTLY WITH THAT AS WELL.

THEY'RE HELPING US, UH, PLACE THOSE THROUGHOUT THE CITY 'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE PLACED ON POLES AND SIGNS.

UH, WE HAVE TWO PORTABLE SPEED TRAILERS, WHICH WILL NOTIFY DRIVERS, UH, OF THEIR SPEED WHEN THEY DRIVE BY, UH, TWO PORTABLE MESSAGE, MESSAGE SIGN BOARDS, UH, WHICH WE CAN PUT ANYTHING WE WANT ON THERE.

AND, UH, THOSE ARE PLACED STRATEGICALLY DEPENDING ON, UH, COMPLAINTS AND DIFFERENT STUFF THAT WE'RE RECEIVING ON THE MY CIVIC APP AND FROM CITIZENS.

UH, AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE COORDINATED COUNTYWIDE MOTOR OFFICER DETAILS IN EL CAJON.

SO WE HAVE, UH, A GROUP OF MOTOR OFFICERS FROM THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.

THEY COME FOR A DAY, UH, OR SOMETIMES MORE.

AND THEY ADDRESS JUST THE CITY OF EL CAJON.

UH, AND WE'RE HOPING TO INCREASE THAT, UH, IN 2024.

SO SOME OF OUR GOALS FOR 2024, UH, IS TO INCREASE OUR VISIBILITY AND PRESENCE OF OUR MOTOR UNITS.

UH, I MENTIONED A LITTLE BIT AGO THAT WE HAD, UH, OVER 1300 CITATIONS IN 2023.

UH, ALREADY IN 2024 THERE ARE OVER 500.

UH, AND THAT'S JUST A TESTAMENT TO HOW MUCH WORK OUR MOTOR OFFICERS ARE DOING.

UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO DO MAXIMUM ENFORCEMENT FOR DESIGNATED TIMEFRAMES IN AREAS OF HIGH COMPLAINTS.

WE'VE DONE THIS RECENTLY ON TAFT, ON GREENFIELD, JUST TO NAME A COUPLE.

AND WE'RE ALSO GONNA CONDUCT SOME GRANT FUNDED OVERTIME DETAILS, SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING SPEED.

AND THEN WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE WITH OUR REGIONAL MOTOR OFFICERS FOR ADDITIONAL MAXIMUM ENFORCEMENT DAYS.

WE'RE HOPING TO ADD A COUPLE ADDITIONAL DAYS IN EL CAJON, UH, SINCE IT IS A SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM FOR OUR OUR RESIDENTS.

UH, AND IF THERE'S ANY, UH, QUESTIONS ON OUR ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE.

NOW LET ME SEE IF MICHELLE.

A BIG COMPLAINT THAT I HEAR.

NICE PRESENTATION.

WHAT'S UP WITH THE RED LIGHT RUNNERS? THAT'S

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HOW ARE YOU GUYS ENFORCING THAT? SO THE RED LIGHT CAMERA OR RED LIGHT RUNNERS STOP SIGN RUNNERS, YOU KNOW, ALL THOSE, UH, ISSUES WOULD BE SIMILAR TO THE OTHER, UH, TRAFFIC ENFORCEMENT THAT WE DO.

ONCE WE'RE MADE AWARE OF THE ISSUE AND WHERE IT'S, UH, OCCURRING, THEN WE CAN ADDRESS IT BY SENDING OUR OFFICERS OUT THERE AND ENFORCE IT.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S UH, THEY HAVE TO SEE IT HAPPEN.

RIGHT.

SO, UH, BUT THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR.

'CAUSE I THINK A LOT OF CITIZENS FEEL THAT IF THEY JUST COMPLAIN TO THE CITY ABOUT THE NUMBER OF RED LIGHT RUNNERS THAT THAT'S GOING TO HANDLE IT, THAT IT'LL BE TAKEN CARE OF.

AND FOR THEM TO KNOW, YOU GUYS HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT.

YOU CAN'T JUST TAKE OUR WORD FOR IT, UM, MEANS A LOT.

SO THANK YOU.

WELL, STEVE, I HAD A CONVERSATION, UH, JEREMIAH THIS MORNING WITH A MOTOR OFFICER AND IT WAS VERY ENLIGHTENING.

IT CONFIRMED A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE HEAR, BUT WE DON'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, PUT UH, DATA TO.

AND HE SAID A COUPLE YEARS AGO THERE WERE 30 FATALITIES, TRAFFIC RELATED FATALITIES THAT COULD HAVE BEEN A PEDESTRIAN, COULD HAVE BEEN A CAR, 30 TRAFFIC RELATED FATALITIES A COUPLE YEARS AGO, I THINK IT WAS.

AND LAST YEAR, I THINK IT WAS DOWN TO EIGHT.

THAT JUST REINFORCES THE VALUE OF THIS TRAFFIC UNIT GOING FROM THREE TO FOUR OFFICERS.

IT SAVES LIVES.

AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, UH, CITIZENS CONTACTING US ABOUT SPEED, FRUSTRATIONS, THAT THAT IS A LIFESAVING ISSUE.

SO I FULLY SUPPORT, UH, THAT STAFFING FROM THREE TO FOUR OFFICERS.

YOU CAN'T PUT A PRICE ON HUMAN LIFE.

IT'S GREAT.

I SAID, SO HOW MANY TICKETS DO YOU GIVE TO PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE AREA THAT YOU'RE DOING ENFORCEMENT? HE SAID, WELL, WE HAD A, A SPEED ISSUE ON ANZA AVENUE.

AND UH, AFTER TALLYING UP ALL THE THINGS HE SAID, 85% OF THE CITATIONS WERE FROM PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEARBY ON THE STREET SOUTH.

ANZO IN PARTICULAR, WAS THIS ONE MAN, HE STOPPED AND THE GUY SAID, WHY ARE YOU PULLING ME OVER? HE SAID, WELL, WERE YOU ONE OF THE CITIZENS WHO ASKED US TO DO ENFORCEMENT OUT HERE? 'CAUSE WE'VE, WE HEARD THERE WERE A LOT.

AND HE SAID, YES.

WELL, I'M GIVING YOU A TICKET BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE ALSO PART OF THE ISSUE WHY WE'RE OUT HERE.

AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THE PUBLIC ISN'T ALWAYS AWARE OF IS THAT WHEN THERE ARE CONCERNS EXPRESSED, IT'S MOST OFTEN THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THAT AREA.

AND IT WAS NICE TO HEAR THAT AND CONFIRM THAT.

I THINK YOU'RE DOING GREAT WORK OUT THERE.

FULLY SUPPORT THE MOTOR OFFICERS.

UH, NOT BECAUSE YOU'RE GIVING OUT A TON OF TICKETS.

I WISH THEY GIVE OUT NO TICKETS, BUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING, IF YOU GO FROM 30 TRAFFIC OR RELATED FATALITIES DOWN TO EIGHT, IT'S VERY EFFECTIVE.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS.

YEAH, THEIR EDUCATION EFFORTS ARE, ARE SIGNIFICANT AS WELL.

THEY DON'T ALWAYS JUST WRITE TICKETS.

SO WE'RE OKAY WITH THE TICKETS THOUGH, .

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE, UH, LEARN FROM.

UM, I LOVE, UH, THANK YOU FOR THE REPORT.

UH, PLEASE PASS ON OUR THANKS TO THE GUYS, UM, OUT IN THE FIELD AS WELL.

AND I APPRECIATE THE GRANT FUNDING FOR OVERTIME, UM, FOR THE, UH, FOCUSING SPECIFICALLY ON TRAFFIC RELATED ISSUES.

IF WE CAN CONTINUE THAT PROCESS OF RETAINING THAT GRANT MONEY YEAR OVER YEAR AND, AND HAVING THESE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THAT ABOUT ONCE EVERY COUPLE MONTHS, UM, DETAILS KINDA LIKE A DUI STOP WHERE IT'S, IT'S HAPPENING CONSISTENTLY.

IT'S NOT CONSISTENT, BUT IT'S HAPPENING CONSISTENTLY.

UM, THAT CAN BUILD A REPUTATION TO SPEEDERS WITHIN THE AREA.

AND UM, AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MUCH IT MEANS TO RESIDENTS WHEN THE CITY AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT RESPOND QUICKLY, UM, IN UPPING ENFORCEMENT IN THE AREAS OF WHERE, WHERE WE'RE GETTING COMPLAINTS.

AND I KNOW THAT, I KNOW AND ALL OF US KNOW THAT THAT'S NOT GONNA FIX THE PROBLEM.

'CAUSE SPEEDERS ARE GONNA SPEED NO MATTER WHAT, BUT IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN THE EYES OF THE RESIDENTS THAT THE CITY CARES AND THAT WE'RE RESPONDING THAT WE HEAR THEM.

UM, AND SETTING THAT EXPECTATION, LIKE YOU SAID WITH EDUCATION, THIS ISN'T GONNA FIX THE PROBLEM, BUT WE HEAR YOU AND WE'RE GONNA COME OUT AND DO WHAT WE CAN WITH WHAT WE HAVE.

AND SO I DON'T WANT, I WANT THAT TO BE KNOWN AND IT CANNOT BE UNDERSTATED HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS.

THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE A PROBLEM AREA, WE GO OUT THERE AND WE DO MAXIMUM ENFORCEMENT, UM, FOR AT LEAST A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.

UM, AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, THE GRANT FUNDING, UM, AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER GOEBBELS, UH, COMMENTS AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYBODY ELSE? I GOT A FOLLOW UP COMMENT TO COUNCIL MEMBER ORTIZ, UH, THE DUI ENFORCEMENT THAT WAS DONE I THINK ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO IN THE 600

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BLOCK OF BROADWAY OR SO.

I WAS TOLD THREE DUIS AT THAT LOCATION.

THAT'S JUST SAVING LIVES.

I MEAN, BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW LATER ON DOWN THE ROAD OR WHATEVER, IF THEY'RE GONNA RUN A RED LIGHT AND BROADSIDE SOMEBODY.

SO THE GRANT FUNDING IS DEFINITELY A GREAT THING TO GO FOR.

IF THAT COSTS US MONEY, IT'S WORTH IT.

ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU FOR DOING ALL THIS.

I, I DON'T WANNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT IF, IF IT, THE DEPARTMENT EVER NEEDS ANYTHING AND THEY, THEY WANT TO ASK FOR HELP, IT'S A PRETTY IMPORTANT THING TO US.

UM, JUST GO THROUGH PROPER CHANNELS AND MAKE SURE YOU GET THE REQUEST TO US AND DON'T BE SHY ABOUT IT.

THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS BUILT TO ACCOMMODATE WHAT, WHAT CITIES IN OREGON ARE DOING.

THANKS VERY MUCH.

SO I'M GONNA MOVE ON TO SPEED HOME SPOT.

WHILE, UH, CAPTAIN LARSON'S LEAVING, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE SOMETHING.

HE SAID, THIS IS THIS PROGRAM, THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE TENT OVER HIRES AND ALSO JUST THE ENTIRE, UH, TRAFFIC UNIT IS SO, IS FUNDED PRIMARILY THROUGH PROP J.

UH, WITHOUT THOSE MONIES WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE THOSE SPECIAL DETAILS LIKE THE HOMELESS DETAIL AND THE TRAFFIC UNIT.

SO, UM, THOSE REALLY IMPORTANT THINGS THAT ARE, THAT EN ENHANCE OUR COMMUNITY.

AND AS COUNCIL MEMBER GOBEL SAID, SAVE LIVES.

SO WITH THAT, UM, I WANTED TO, TO PROVIDE, AND THE STAFF REPORT INCLUDES A COPY OF THE 2001 SPEED HUMP POLICY THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE CITY.

AND I JUST WANNA KIND OF GIVE A HIGH OVERVIEW OF THAT.

BUT FIRST I WANTED TO KIND OF GO OVER SOME TERMINOLOGY 'CAUSE WE'LL, WE'LL YOU'LL HEAR DIFFERENT WORDS BEING USED, SO I THOUGHT WE'D JUST GET ALL ON THE SAME PAGE WHEN IT COMES TO THAT.

SO TYPICALLY CITIES INSTALL WHAT ARE CALLED SPEED HUMPS.

THESE ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN SPEED BUMPS, WHICH YOU SEE IN LIKE A, A PARKING LOT OF A GROCERY STORE THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT, UH, MORE ANGLED UP, UH, MORE ROUNDED UP AND DOWN.

IT'D BE VERY DIFFICULT TO TRAVEL 25 MILES AN HOUR GOING OVER THOSE.

SO THESE ARE REALLY MEANT TO ACCOMMODATE SPEEDS THAT THE EXISTING SPEED LIMIT ALLOWS.

SO HITTING THIS AT 25 MILES AN HOUR SHOULD BE COMFORTABLE AND, UH, BUT HITTING IT AT 40 MILES AN HOUR WOULD BE UNCOMFORTABLE.

THERE'S ALSO, UH, A TECHNIQUE CALLED SPEED TABLES.

YOU SEE THESE TYPICALLY AT, UM, PARKING LOTS AT, AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A, AT AN AIRPORT.

UM, I'VE SEEN THEM IN GROCERY STORES, BUT I'VE ALSO SEEN THEM ON STREETS AS WELL, THAT THEY ARE A BIT OF A PLATEAU.

YOU RAISED UP, YOU DRIVE OVER IT AND YOU GO DOWN AGAIN HAS SOME OF THE SAME BENEFITS AS A SPEED HUMP, BUT IT DOES CREATE A LITTLE BIT MORE SLOWER, UH, PACE BECAUSE IT DOES REQUIRE, UM, SLOWING DOWN TO HIT THAT INITIAL SLOPE.

UH, BROADWAY IN LEMON GROVE HAS THIS GOING ACROSS BROADWAY WHERE THERE'S A LIT UP CROSSWALK AS AN EXAMPLE.

UM, THIS IS A RELATIVELY NEW TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO EXPLORE MUCH.

AND THESE ARE CALLED SPEED CUSHIONS.

UH, I'VE SEEN LA MESA HAS SOME OF THESE, BUT PERMANENTLY INSTALLED WHERE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE THESE SORT OF TRENCHES THAT PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLES CAN GO ON.

UH, IT ALSO IS ACCOMMODATING FOR A BICYCLIST AS WELL.

UH, BUT THESE ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE REMOVED SO THEY'RE NOT A PERMANENT FIXTURE OF THE STREET.

AND NOW IT DOES RE RESULT IN SOME DAMAGE TO THE STREET, BUT THERE'S THE ABILITY TO REMOVE IT SO THEY'RE NOT PERMANENT AND ALWAYS IN, IN PLACE.

SO THOSE ARE SORT OF SOME WHAT YOU CALL VERTICAL ADJUSTMENTS THAT YOU CAN MAKE TO THE STREET CHANGING THE VERTICAL HEIGHT OF THE STREET.

THERE'S ALSO SOME HORIZONTAL OR SOME, UH, CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT PHRASE, BUT THAT LOOK AT THE, THE DYNAMIC OF THE WIDTH OF THE STREET, FOR EXAMPLE.

STRIPING IS A TECHNIQUE THAT IS USED IN A LOT OF PLACES.

HAWAII, THE STATE OF HAWAII IS ONE OF THE FIRST TO REALLY ADOPT SOME, SOME, I I DON'T WANNA SAY AGGRESSIVE STRIPING.

THE STRIPING ON THE LEFT IS VERY AGGRESSIVE.

UM, BUT THE, THESE ARE SOME TECHNIQUES THAT ARE USED.

THEY DO NOT, UH, NARROW DOWN THE STREET PER SE, BUT IT CERTAINLY GIVES THE APPEARANCE OR THE ILLUSION THAT THE STREET IS NARROWED DOWN.

AND ALTHOUGH THERE'S NO BARRIER TO DRIVE RIGHT OVER THAT YELLOW LINE, TYPICALLY CARS DO SLOW DOWN AND IT BECOMES A SLOWING FACTOR WHEN STRIPING IS NOT ENOUGH.

CITIES ALSO LOOK AT ENGINEERING TECHNIQUES.

HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF, UH, AN AFTER THE FACT.

THIS STREET EXISTED LONG BEFORE THESE BULB OUTS WERE CREATED, BUT, UM, THIS IS IN THE PORTLAND AREA WHERE THESE BULB OUTS WERE CREATED AND ALMOST CREATING AN OBSTACLE COURSE DOWN THE STREET.

AND A LOT OF STREETS IN THE, THE EUGENE AREA PER PRIMARILY HAVE ALMOST, THEY'VE MADE A LOT OF THEIR STREETS ONE-WAY STREETS.

SO EVERYTHING IS ONE WAY AND THEN THEY'VE NECKED EVERYTHING DOWN TO ONE-WAY TRAFFIC TO REALLY SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC.

THAT'S A, THAT'S A PRETTY AGGRESSIVE, I'M NOT RECOMMENDING THAT, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS AN AGGRESSIVE WAY TO SLOW DOWN THE STREET.

UM, THE OTHER IS ACTUALLY YOU BUILD IT INTO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

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UM, THAT WAS BUILT AT THE VERY BEGINNING.

SO AS THIS SUBDIVISION WAS BUILT, THIS IS, I TOOK THIS ON A JOG RECENTLY WHILE I WAS OUT STATE AND, UH, THERE'S SOME SIGNIFICANT NECK DOWN INTERSECTIONS AND THERE'S AREAS FOR PARKING AND, UM, IT CAN BE BUILT INTO THE ACTUAL NEIGHBORHOOD ITSELF.

SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME TECHNIQUES THAT ARE USED FROM NOT ONLY, UH, THE VERTICAL AND THE HOR, BUT ALSO THE HORIZONTAL COMPONENT OF THE STREET.

SO THE CITY OF EL CAJON CURRENTLY HAS A POLICY LIKE, AS I SAID BEFORE, IT WAS ADOPTED IN 2001 TO ADDRESS SPEED HUMPS AND TO EVALUATE THAT PROCESS.

SO, AND LOOKING AT OTHER CITIES, OUR POLICY ISN'T THAT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN SOME OTHER CITIES.

I THINK THAT IT, BECAUSE IT, IT IS DATED, THERE MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SUBJECTIVITY THAN SOME OF THE OTHER POLICIES THAT HAVE PROPPED, UH, POPPED UP AROUND THE COUNTY SINCE THEN.

BUT IN SHORT, OUR POLICY SAYS THAT SPEED HUMPS SHOULD BE A LAST RESORT, SHOULD BE THE VERY LAST THING THAT YOU DO.

AND IN FACT, ALMOST EVERY POLICY THAT WE HAVE FOUND SAYS THE EXACT SAME THING.

YOU SHOULD DO ENFORCEMENT FIRST.

AND IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, YOU LOOK AT NARROWING DOWN THE STREET, EITHER THROUGH STRIPING OR THROUGH CHICANES OR THROUGH BULB BELTS.

AND IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, THEN YOU LOOK AT SPEED HUMPS.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S TYPICALLY THE PROCESS THAT CITIES HAVE UTILIZED.

OUR POLICY DOES A 10 POINT EVALUATION AND IT DETERMINES WHETHER A STREET SHOULD BE AN A, B, OR A C.

AND A STREET MEANS CLEARLY CAN ACCOMMODATE, A B MEANS IT COULD ACCOMMODATE, AND A C MEANS IT SHOULDN'T ACCOMMODATE.

SO AN EXAMPLE OF A, WE SHOULD NOT ACCOMMODATE SPEED HUMPS WOULD BE A MAJOR CORRIDOR WHERE YOU HAVE HIGH SPEED TRAFFIC, OR AREAS WHERE THERE ARE, THERE'S A NEED FOR PUBLIC SAFETY VEHICLES TO TRAVEL FREQUENTLY OR, OR HEAVY COMMERCIAL VEHICLES TO TRAVEL.

THAT WOULD BE A BAD AREA FOR A SPEED HUMP.

BUT A RE A TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL STREET THAT HAS A, HAS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC VOLUME AND A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC, WHICH COULD BE QUANTIFIED.

THOSE TEND TO BE STREETS THAT A, ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, BENEFICIARY TO STREET OR SPEED HUMPS.

AND SO THOSE WOULD BE AN A STREET OR A B STREET.

THERE'S OTHER FACTORS THAT GO INTO IT, SUCH AS PROXIMITY TO SCHOOLS, WHETHER THEY'RE SIDEWALKS OR NO SIDEWALKS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO OUR CURRENT POLICY SAYS THAT ONCE A STREET IS DETERMINED TO BE AN A, THEN THERE'S A VOTE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT GOES OUT.

AND TWO THIRDS, IF TWO THIRDS OF THE RESIDENTS SAY THAT, YES, SPEED HUMPS ARE WHAT WE WANT, IT IS THEN APPROVED DEPENDING ON THE FUNDING AND ALSO THE TIMING OF GETTING THAT DONE.

AND BY THE WAY, THAT'S A VERY COMMON POLICY, UM, PATTERN FROM THE OTHER CITIES THAT WE LOOKED AT AS WELL.

HERE IS, UM, ENCINITAS AND I USE, YOU'VE HEARD ME USE ENCINITAS BEFORE.

I THINK INSIN MAYBE HAS THE MOST COMPREHENSIVE SPEED HUMP POLICY THAT ALSO ACCOMMODATES SPEED HUMPS MORE READILY THAN OTHER COMMUNITIES.

I I DON'T SHOW THIS FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO READ EVERY LINE, 'CAUSE I, THAT'D BE HARD TO DO.

BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY HAVE, UM, A VERY, A VERY, UM, PROCESS THOUGHT, THOUGHT, UM, THOUGHT OUT WAY TO GET FROM A TO Z.

AND THIS IS THE FIRST ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE STREET IS LIKE OURS AND A STREET.

IT ALSO DOES A COUPLE OTHER THINGS.

IT ALSO SAYS, OKAY, IF SPEEDING IS A PROBLEM AFTER THEY'VE DONE THE SPEED SURVEY, THEY'LL THEN DO ENFORCEMENT AND THEN THEY MAY DO STRIPING.

AND IF AFTER ALL THOSE THINGS, THE SPEED LIMIT, THE, UM, SPEEDERS ARE STILL 7% OVER THE 85TH PERCENT MARK, THAT IS WHEN IT BECOMES ELIGIBLE TO BE CONSIDERED FOR A SPEED HUMP PROGRAM.

AND SO ONCE THAT IS DETERMINED, THEN YOU GO THROUGH THIS, I KNOW THIS LOOKS VERY CONVOLUTED AND VERY BUSINESS UNFRIENDLY AND BUREAUCRATIC, BUT IT CREATES A VERY SIMPLE WAY FOR A RESIDENT TO RECOGNIZE HOW TO GET, AGAIN, FROM WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY, AND TO HAVE A SPEED HUMP IN PLACE.

AND IT GIVES A LOT OF SUBJECT OR, UH, TAKES AWAY THE SUBJECTIVITY.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF SCIENTIFIC ANALYSIS THAT GOES INTO A SPEED HUMP.

SO IN ENCINITAS, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE FIVE DIFFERENT, UH, CRITERIA THAT THEY LOOK AT.

AND BASED ON THE CRITERIA, YOU'RE GIVEN A DIFFERENT SCORE.

THEY LOOK AT THE SPEED AND IF FOR EVERY MILE OVER THE 85TH PERCENTILE, YOU GET A POINT, UM, THEY LOOK THROUGH, CUT THROUGH VOLUME, THEY LOOK AT HOW MANY CRASHES FATAL AND NON-FATAL CRASHES HAVE EXISTED.

THEY LOOK AT, UH, PEDESTRIAN ISSUES, SIDEWALK ISSUES.

AND BASED ON ALL THAT, YOU COME TOGETHER WITH A POINT SYSTEM, THE MAXIMUM IS A HUNDRED POINTS AND YOU HAVE TO GET A, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT POINT YOU HAVE TO GET TO, BUT A CERTAIN POINT TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT VOTE.

THAT THEN GOES OUT TO THE, TO THE, UM, THE RESIDENTS.

NOW,

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I RECENTLY RAN WITH THE DATA THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE, AND I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE DATA, BUT WE RAN TAFT THROUGH THIS ANALYSIS.

IT DOES NOT QUALIFY FOR A SPEED HUMP, BUT IT CERTAINLY QUALIFIES FOR SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T TRIED YET.

AND WE'RE DOING THE ENFORCEMENT NOW.

I THINK IT IS A GREAT STREET FOR US TO CONTINUE TO EXPLORE AND MEASURE TO SEE IF THE STRIPING IS MAYBE THE NEXT STEP.

AND, AND THAT'S AFTER WE SEE WHAT THE STOP SIGNS DO.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY FIRST, UM, RECOMMENDATION IS WE SEE WHAT THE STOP SIGNS DO, IF THAT HAS A CHANGE IN THE PATTERN OF TRAFFIC, NOT ONLY IN THE SPEEDING, BUT ALSO IN THE CUT THROUGH.

AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT THE NEXT STEP.

AND SO THERE'S A VERY PROCESS WAY TO GO THROUGH IT.

ONE OF THE REASONS WHY IS WE KNOW THAT SPEED HUMPS DO REDUCE SPEEDS BY UP TO 10%.

THAT'S, THAT'S SCIENTIFIC DATA.

BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT SPEED HUMPS PENALIZE THOSE THAT ARE ABIDING BY THE SPEED LIMIT.

AND I THINK A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOODS LOOK AT SPEED HUMPS AS SORT OF THE PANACEA TO SOLVE ALL OF THE SPEEDING PROBLEMS, BUT THEY CREATE A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER ISSUES SUCH AS, UH, REVVING UP ENGINES TO GET FROM SPEED HUMP TO SPEED HUMP, UH, CREATING EVEN MORE DAMAGING, UM, CONDITIONS TO THE ROAD TO CARS.

AND THERE'S BEEN SOME INCIDENCES WHEN YOU HIT THOSE SPEED HUMPS, IT CREATES EVEN MORE HAZARDS IN TERMS OF CRASHES.

SO THERE ARE SOME UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.

AND IN TALKING TO THE STAFF BACK TO ENCINITAS, UH, A LOT OF THE SPEED HUMPS THAT GET ADOPTED BY THE RESIDENTS, THEY'VE HAD TO CREATE A PROCESS TO TO, TO REMOVE SPEED HUMPS.

BECAUSE SO MANY NEIGHBORHOODS WERE LIKE, THIS ISN'T FIXING THE PROBLEM THAT WE WANTED IT TO FIX.

LET'S NOW REMOVE THE SPEED HUMP.

SO THE, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THAT AS WELL.

BUT I THINK THAT IF THE COUNCIL WANTED TO EXPLORE THIS FURTHER, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE SORT OF TEAR INTO THE 2001 POLICY AND SAY, DOES IT NEED TO BE UPDATED AND KINDA LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS AND GET AN UNDERSTANDING FROM THE COUNCIL AND FROM THE PUBLIC, WHAT IS IT THAT THEY WANNA SEE IN A POLICY? WE CAN PROVIDE SOME POLICY OPTIONS AND I'D RECOMMEND THAT IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO DO THIS, WE DO THIS AS PART OF A WORKSHOP.

SO WITH THAT STAFF'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS I HAVE, UH, MARIO SANCHEZ IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE POLICY ITSELF, BUT I THOUGHT WE'D KEEP THIS HIGH LEVEL TODAY, AND IF COUNCIL WANTS TO DIVE INTO IT DEEPER, WE MAYBE DO THAT DURING A WORKSHOP FORMAT.

SO WITH THAT, I'M HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS, GARY? WELL, I REALLY LIKE THAT, UH, FLOWCHART.

I KNOW IT'S HUGE AND LOOKS COMPLICATED, BUT THE ISSUE IS COMPLICATED AND I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GREAT WAY, UH, FOR OUR CITIZENS TO LOOK THROUGH AND FOLLOW IT AND TO SEE THAT WE'RE TREATING EVERYBODY THE SAME.

AND, AND IT, AND IT REALLY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A HUGE FLOW CHART, IT REALLY SIMPLIFIES THING.

YOU GO FROM THIS TO THIS TO THIS.

IF THIS, THEN NO IF THIS, THEN YES.

SO I LIKE THAT A LOT.

AND OUR POLICY LENDS ITSELF TO HAVING A FLOW CHART.

WE JUST DON'T HAVE A PUBLISHED DOCUMENT LIKE THAT.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'D BE EASY FOR US TO CREATE.

YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

YEAH, I, I AGREE WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATIONS WITH REGARD TO SOME TYPE OF WORKSHOP.

IT'S OBVIOUS THAT WE'VE HAD A HUGE PUBLIC OUTCRY FROM OUR RESIDENTS ABOUT SPEEDING, ESPECIALLY IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

AND SO I THINK THERE'D BE NOT ONLY VALUE IN GIVING, EXCUSE ME, GIVING THE PUBLIC A VOICE, UM, SO THEY KNOW THAT THEY'RE BEING HEARD.

BUT THEN ALSO, LIKE WE JUST DID IN THE LAST, UM, ITEM, TAKE A LOOK UNDER THE HOOD AND SEE WHERE WE CAN IMPROVE.

UM, IT SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A A, A GOOD PROCESS IN PLACE HERE.

MY QUESTION TO YOU, MR. CITY MANAGER, IS OUR TRAFFIC CALMING POLICY, IS THAT SOMEWHAT ON A HIGH LEVEL SIMILAR TO ENCINITAS? IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS.

MAYBE THEY'RE JUST A LITTLE DE MORE DETAILED.

WE'RE WE'RE NOT VERY FAR OFF FROM THE ENCINITAS POLICY.

IN FACT, MOST OF, MOST OF THE CITIES HAVE A VERY SIMILAR POLICY.

THAT STREET, IF YOU SLURRY STEEL, NO BIG DEAL.

I THINK OURS IS JUST A LITTLE DATED.

THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO REMOVE SOME SUBJECTIVITY AND CREATE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, A QUANTITATIVE ANALYSIS AS PART OF OUR EVALUATION.

AND, UM, AND THEN THIS MIGHT BE A ENGINEERING QUESTION.

THERE'S, I MEAN, TO THE LAYMAN, A SPEED CUSHION AND A SPEED HUMP SEEMED LIKE THEY'RE HAVING THE SAME EFFECT ON THE CAR ITSELF, BUT THE SPEED CUSHION SEEMS LESS INVASIVE, I GUESS IS THE RIGHT, IS THAT RIGHT? IS IT LESS EXPENSIVE AND YOU COULD TAKE IT OUT A LOT EASIER? IS THAT, WELL, WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT THE PRICE.

IT MAY BE MORE EXPENSIVE, BUT IT HAS THE ABILITY TO REMOVE.

ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WITH A SPEED HUMP IS WHEN YOU RESURFACE

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RIGHT.

BUT IF YOU'RE GRINDING DOWN AND RESURFACING, IT ADDS AN EXPENSE TO THAT SURFACING TO PULL IT UP, PULL IT UP, OR PULL IT OFF.

YEAH, EXACTLY RIGHT.

MACHINE TO GO OVER.

SO, UM, WE HAVEN'T EXPLORED THE SPEED CUSHION.

I THINK IT'S AN AREA THAT WE WANNA LOOK INTO A LITTLE BIT DEEPER.

YEAH, I I, I WOULD BE, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THE SPEED CUSHION AS WELL.

'CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THAT MIGHT BE, IT MIGHT BE ADVANTAGEOUS TO DIRECT RESIDENTS TO WANT SPEED HUMPS IF IT'S, OR SORRY, SPEED CUSHIONS IF IT'S LESS INVASIVE AND IT MAKES MORE SENSE OVERALL TO THE CITY AND IT MITIGATES SOME OF THE ISSUES.

UM, OTHER THAN THAT, YEAH, I, I DON'T WANT THIS TOPIC TO GO AWAY.

I THINK, I THINK, UM, AND I THINK WITH TAFT WE'RE KIND OF FOLLOWING THAT PROCESS.

WE'RE DOING THE STOP SIGNS AND MAYBE STRIPING, I DON'T KNOW IF I'D BE OKAY WITH THAT AGGRESSIVE STRIPING THAT JUST LOOKS LIKE GOVERNMENT INCOMPETENCE , WHERE THEY COULDN'T GET THE LINE TO GO STRAIGHT .

SO I, I MEAN, SUBCONSCIOUSLY PEOPLE MIGHT SLOW DOWN.

UM, I, I'D, I'D LIKE THE, UH, ROAD DIET, TAILOR IT DOWN, THAT THAT WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE.

UM, ANYWAYS, UH, BUT YEAH, I'D BE, I'D BE OPEN TO, UH, SOME KIND OF A WORKSHOP.

YOU KNOW, UM, I'VE HAD SPEED HUMPS IN MY STREET, DWAYNE DRIVE SINCE 1996.

I THINK THAT THOSE WERE THE FIRST SPEED HUMPS IN THE CITY, AND ONE OF THE, AND IT, IT SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCED TRAFFIC AND JUST A LOT SAFER, UH, ON MY STREET NOW.

BUT ONE DOWNSIDE I'VE NOTICED, AND THERE'S A HUMP THAT'S REALLY CLOSE TO MY HOUSE, IS THAT IF SOMEONE'S DRIVING BY AND THEY'RE SPEEDING AND THEY GET A TRUCK WITH LIKE A BUNCH OF LUMBER IN IT, YOU HEAR, YOU HEAR THAT TRUCK GO GABO WHEN THAT LUMBER GOES UP AND THEN COMES BACK DOWN.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE DOWNSIDE.

SOMETIMES THAT'S AT ONE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.

I'M ALSO CURIOUS AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS SPEEDING POLICY, UH, IF THE SOLUTION IS CREATING A PROBLEM BECAUSE, UH, ARE WE, ARE WE GOING AFTER SPEED HUMPS FOR 1%, UH, AND THE OTHER 99% GET PUNISHED? AND SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL.

AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THE DATA COMES IN.

I THINK, UH, I'VE SEEN SOME INTERESTING STRIPING IN EUROPE THAT IS 3D STRIPING ON THE ROAD, AND IT MAKES THE WAY THAT THEY STRIPE IT, IT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE WHATEVER THEY STRIPED IS RAISED.

SO IT SLOWS CARS DOWN.

EVENTUALLY SOMEBODY WILL GET USED TO THAT.

AND I THINK ULTIMATELY IT'S ABOUT ENGINEERING.

I I DON'T THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA TO, THERE ARE CERTAIN ROADS IN THE CITY THAT ARE CUT THROUGHS.

BOSTON IS A CUT THROUGH FROM GREENFIELD TO BROADWAY, OR DOROTHY IS A CUT THROUGH FROM LEXINGTON TO WHATEVER.

THERE MAY BE THOSE FEW STREETS THAT ARE CUT THROUGHS THAT, THAT YOU CHANGE TO ONE WAY STREETS WITH BALL BELTS.

AND IF I LIVED ON THAT STREET, I WOULD SAY, WELL, I GOTTA LIVE ON A ONE WAY STREET NOW, BUT I'M NOT GONNA HAVE SPEEDERS ON MY STREET ANYMORE.

AND, AND THE OPPOSITE STREET GOES THE OTHER WAY.

AND YOU KIND OF DO THAT.

I THINK THAT'S WORTH CONSIDERING FOR A FEW STREETS.

SO ULTIMATELY, I THINK ENGINEERING IS GONNA BE THE ANSWER.

WE CAN PUT SIGNS AND, AND TRAILERS AND STUFF, BUT IT'S GONNA COME DOWN TO AN ENGINEERING SOLUTION.

WELL, AND AND TO YOUR POINT, MR. GOBEL, UM, THIS IS WHY I THINK, UH, SOME KIND OF A WORKSHOP WOULD BE HELPFUL TO PRESENT TO THE PUBLIC, HEY, IF YOU REALLY WANT THINGS TO SLOW DOWN THE WAY YOU WANT TO, THIS IS THE SOLUTION THAT THE CITY MIGHT PRESENT, WHICH IS YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO LIVE ON A ONE WAY STREET.

IS IS IT WORTH IT TO YOU? AND I, I DON'T THINK I'M PREPARED TO MAKE THAT DECISION UNTIL I GET MORE, UM, FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENT.

SO, ABSOLUTELY.

GETTING INTO WRECKS, BUT THEY CAREEN OFF THE ROAD ONTO THE SIDEWALK AND THE PEOPLE'S FRONT YARDS.

YOU, YOU MADE THE, BOTH OF YOU MADE THE POINT ARE WHY ARE WE PUNISHING? IS IT FAIR TO PUNISH THE 99 FOR THE ONE, UH, CHIEF MOLTEN LIKES TO REMIND ME, SAY GRAHAM, WE COULD, WE COULD GET WASHINGTON TO EVERYONE TO DRIVE THE SPEED LIMIT AND WE COULD CHANGE THE TIMING.

SO EVERY TIME YOU COME TO A RED LIGHT, YOU'RE GONNA HIT A RED LIGHT.

I MEAN, YOU WOULD GET A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT CALLS, RIGHT? BUT IS THAT PUNISHING THE WRONG PEOPLE? BECAUSE THOSE ARE, THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE FOLLOWING THE LAW.

SO, BUT IT'S GOING AFTER THAT, THAT VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE THAT IS, AND GOING AFTER THE, THE EXCESSIVE ONES.

SO THE ONES THAT ARE EXCESSIVELY SPEEDING, THEY'LL HAVE THE MOST DIFFICULT TIME WITH THE ENGINEERING, UM, SOLUTIONS.

ANY MORE COMMENTS? WELL, YEAH, I DO.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, HAVING LIVED ON, UH, THAT STREET FOR 34 YEARS AND, UH, FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS BEFORE THE SPEED HUMPS WENT IN, IT WAS AN ABSOLUTE NIGHTMARE.

PEOPLE'S CARS WERE, UH, NOT NECESSARILY

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SOMETIMES THEY HIT THE HOUSES.

UM, MY WIFE AND LITTLE BOY WERE JUST MISSED ONE TIME WHEN A CAR WENT OUTTA CONTROL AND HIT THE WALL OF THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR TO US.

SO IT, IT MAY BE A 1% THAT, THAT CAUSE THAT TROUBLE, BUT BOY, IT'S A LOT OF TROUBLE WHEN IT HAPPENS.

YEAH, FOR SURE.

OKAY, SO I GUESS IS THERE, IF THERE'S CONSENSUS ON A WORKSHOP, THAT'D BE HELPFUL TO KNOW THAT NUMBER ONE.

AND THEN TWO, WHAT LEVEL OF PRIORITY IS THIS? IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PUSH OFF INTO THE FALL? IF NOT, I CAN BRING SOMETHING BACK TO DO SOMETHING LATER THIS SUMMER, BUT THAT WOULD REQUIRE MOVING SOME THINGS AROUND FROM A CITY COUNCIL PRIORITY.

LEMME SEE IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AND THEN I'LL GET, I'LL ASK THOSE QUESTIONS.

THERE ARE NO SPEAKER CARDS, SIR.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, LOOK, MY, WE'RE DOING, UH, WHAT, FOUR WORKSHOPS IN THE NEXT SIX WEEKS? THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS? YES.

YOU KNOW, I, SO I SUGGEST THAT WE COULD GET WORKSHOP FATIGUE THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD PUT IT OFF TILL THE FALL.

YEAH, I, I AGREE WITH YOU, MR. MAYOR, BUT I, IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY'S OPEN TO THE IDEA OF HAVING A WORKSHOP THAT COVER YOU, GRAHAM, THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED.

15 IS FOR COMPENSATION FOR EXECUTIVE AND UNDERREPRESENTED EMPLOYEES UNDER POLICY A 29 AND THE CITY MANAGER, I'LL ASK THE DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES, MARIAL MARISOL THORN TO PLEASE INTRODUCE THIS ITEM.

OKAY, ITEM

[15. Compensation for Executive and Unrepresented Employees (A-29) and City Manager RECOMMENDATION: That the Mayor provides an oral report summarizing recommended changes in compensation for the City’s “local agency executives” and, following the report, that the City Council: Approves the changes to City Council Policy A-29 described below and reflected in the attachment; and Adopts the next Resolution, in order, to approve the amendment to the employment contract with the City Manager, and authorizing the Mayor to execute the amendments, substantially in the forms as presented.]

HI, MARISOL.

CAN'T SEE YOU.

NEVERMIND.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

I AM HERE AGAIN TO BRING FORTH PROPOSED CHANGES FOR CITY COUNCIL POLICY 8 29, WHICH ADDRESSES THE COMPENSATION AND BENEFITS FOR AND REPRESENTED EMPLOYEES.

SO THIS YEAR WE ARE PROPOSING A 3% COST OF LIVING FOR ALL EMPLOYEES UNDER A, UH, POLICY A 29.

WE ARE ALSO PROPOSING A HUNDRED DOLLARS MONTH INCREASE FOR HEALTH BENEFITS STARTING JANUARY OF 2025.

AND THAT'S REALLY ABOUT IT.

JUST SOME CLEANUP AND THEN SOME MARKET ADJUSTMENTS FOR CLASSIFICATIONS THAT ARE BELOW THE MARKET.

AND STAFF IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

I, ARE THERE ANY, UM, PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKER CARDS, SIR.

ALRIGHT, THEN.

I'VE GOT A LONG THING TO READ FOR YOU.

FIRST, I NEED TO STATE THAT CALIFORNIA LAW REQUIRES THAT PRIOR TO TAKING FINAL ACTION ON SALARIES, SALARY SCHEDULES, OR COMPENSATION PAID IN THE FORM OF FRINGE BENEFITS OF WHAT ARE KNOWN AS LOCAL AGENCY EXECUTIVES, THE LEGISLATIVE BODY SHALL ORALLY REPORT A SUMMARY OF A RECOMMENDATION FOR WHICH A FINAL ACTION, A LOCAL EXECUTIVE AGENCY EXECUTIVE INCLUDES ANY EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY WHO IS NOT SUBJECT TO THE MYERS MILS BROWN ACT, WHO IS THE CITY MANAGER, THE ASSISTANT SENIOR MANAGER, EXCUSE ME, A DEPARTMENT HEAD OR WHOSE POSITION IS HELD BY AN EMPLOYMENT CONTRACT, WHICH INCLUDES THE CITY ATTORNEY.

SO FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCLOSURE, THIS REPORT INCLUDES ACTION ON SALARIES AND COMPENSATION OF THE FORMER FRINGE BENEFITS FOR THE FOLLOWING LOCAL AGENCY EXECUTIVES, CITY MANAGER GRAHAM MITCHELL, CITY ATTORNEY MORGAN FOLEY, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, VINCE DIAGGIO, CITY CLERK, ANGELA CORTEZ, DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

ANTHONY SCHU, DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, CITY TREASURER CLAY, DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES.

MARI THORN, DIRECTOR OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY.

SARAH DIAZ, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, YASMIN ARIANO, DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION, FRANK CARSON AND POLICE CHIEF MICHAEL MOTEN.

NOW FOR THE PRO PROPOSED CHANGES, FIRST THE EXCEPTION OF THE CITY ATTORNEY WHOM HAS AN APPROVED SALARY CONTRACT IS PROPOSED THAT EACH OF THESE EMPLOYEES RECEIVE A GENERAL SALARY COST OF LIVING INCREASE OF 3% EFFECTIVE JUNE 22ND, 2024.

THE FOLLOWING ARE THE PROPOSED MARKET ADJUSTMENTS FOR THESE EMPLOYEES AND ADDITIONAL 2.5% FOR THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, 2.5% FOR THE CITY CLERK.

4 5 4 0.5% FOR THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, 3.5% FOR THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE AND DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES, 5.5% FOR THE DIRECTOR OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGIES, 2.5% FOR THE DIRECTOR OF PARK PARKS AND RECREATIONS, AND 2.5% FOR

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THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.

SECOND, IS ALSO PROPOSED THAT EACH OF THESE EMPLOYEES RECEIVE AN INCREASE IN HIS OR HER CAFETERIA PLAN, BENEFITS OF $100 EACH MONTH, BEGINNING IN JANUARY OF 2025, $1,550.

I SHOULD NOTE THAT THE CURRENT BENEFIT IS $1,450 EACH MONTH.

THIS CONCLUDES THE SUMMARY OF PROPOSED EXCHANGES OF CHANGES TO SALARIES AND COMPENSATION IN THE FORM OF FRINGE BENEFITS TO THE CITY EXECUTIVE AS IS REQUIRED BY LAW.

NOW, BEFORE WE MOVE ALONG, IT IS, IS THERE A REPORT FROM THE CITY MANAGER ON THIS MATTER? NO, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE CITY COUNCIL IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION BEFORE WE ASK FOR ANY COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC.

ALRIGHT, I THINK YOU SAID THERE WERE NO PUBLIC COMMENTS, SO THAT'S CORRECT, SIR.

CA, COUNCIL MEZA, AT THIS POINT, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THIS AGENDA ITEM, MOVE ADOPTION.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

THE LAST ADMINISTRATIVE ITEM, ITEM 16, IS FOR INTERIM FUNDING FOR AN EAST COUNTY ADVANCED WATER PURIFICATION PROGRAM.

[16. Adopt Resolution for Certification of Disclosures for Interim Funding for East County Advanced Water Purification Program and Related CEQA Exemption RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council adopts the next Resolution, in order, to: Authorize staff to prepare disclosure information in connection with the issuance of obligations by the East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority and authorize other actions; Certify the disclosures for interim notes for a total not-to-exceed amount of $400,000,000; and Authorize the City Clerk to attest to the accuracy of the Resolution and take such other actions as may be necessary to demonstrate the Council's adoption of the Resolution in support of the issuance of debt by the East County Advanced Water Purification JPA.]

AND I'LL ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY TO PLEASE TELL US ABOUT THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UH, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

THIS IS AN ITEM THAT HAS COME TO US BECAUSE WE ARE MEMBERS WITH THE CITY OF ELCON IS A MEMBER OF THE JOINT POWERS AUTHORITY, THE EAST COUNTY ADVANCED WATER PURIFICATION.

JPA, AS YOU KNOW, THEY'RE SPENDING QUITE A BIT OF MONEY ON CONSTRUCTING THE, UH, PURIFICATION PROJECT UP IN, UH, SANDEE LAKES AREA.

YEAH, YOU PROBABLY ALL AT THE, UH, GROUNDBREAKING QUITE SOME TIME AGO.

UH, THEY ARE MOVING ALONG AND I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR THEY ARE, BUT THEY'RE MOVING ALONG AND, AND AT THIS POINT, UH, THEY NEED TO LOOK AT INTERIM FINANCING.

THE INTERIM FINANCING IS NECESSARY BECAUSE, UM, WHILE THERE ARE GRANTS AND A SIGNIFICANT LOAN FROM THE, UM, UH, STATE WATER RESOURCES CONTROL BOARD, THE REFERRED TO AS THE CLEAN WATER REVOLVING FUNDS PROGRAM, SRF PROGRAM, THOSE FUNDS AND THE, UH, LOAN PART OF THINGS ARE NOT AVAILABLE UNTIL THE MONEY IS SPENT BY THE RECIPIENT OF THE LOAN.

SO IN ORDER TO GET THE MONEY, WE'VE GOTTA SPEND MONEY AND TO SPEND MONEY, WE NEED, UH, NEARLY $400 MILLION.

WE MEANING THE, THE JPA $400 MILLION WORTH OF, UM, INTERIM FUNDING TO, UH, PAY THE CONTRACTORS AND, UM, AND MOVE ALONG.

UH, TO DO THAT, THEY'VE NEGOTIATED.

THE JPA HAS NEGOTIATED A, UM, UH, INTERIM LOAN FROM, UH, AN, UH, UNDERWRITING FIRM IN THE BAY AREA THAT IS ESTABLISHED A THREE YEAR, UM, UH, BOND, NOT BOND, BUT THEY CALL 'EM NOTES.

BUT IT WILL, IT'LL BE AN ISSUANCE OF, UH, OF, UH, NEARLY $400 MILLION TO BE PAID BACK IN THREE YEARS.

AND BY THAT TIME, THE PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETED.

AND BY THAT TIME SUBMISSION OF INVOICES WOULD BE GIVEN TO THE SRF, UH, GROUP UP IN SACRAMENTO AND BEING, UH, REIMBURSED BY THEM SO THAT THE, THE FUNDS WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO HELP PAY BACK THESE NOTES.

BECAUSE WE ARE MEMBERED, THE UNDERWRITERS, UM, ARE OBLIGATED UNDER, UH, SEC, UH, UH, REGULATION 12 B, I'M SORRY, 15 2 15 C TWO 12.

I'M SORRY TO GET INFORMATION FROM EACH OF THE MEMBERS.

UH, AND ESSENTIALLY CUSTOMERS, WE WILL BE PROVIDING, UM, TREATMENT, OUR SEWAGE TO BE TREATED AT THE FACILITY.

SO THEY'VE, UH, REQUESTED THAT WE ADOPT THE RESOLUTION THAT'S ATTACHED AND IT APPROVES THE INFORMATION THAT WE WOULD INCLUDE IN, THEY WOULD INCLUDE IN THEIR INTERIM NOTES, UH, PUBLIC OFFERING STATEMENT, WHAT WE WOULD KNOW NORMALLY CALL POS FOR PRELIMINARY OFFICIAL STATEMENT, AND THEN THE SUBSEQUENT OFFICIAL STATEMENT.

AND THAT IS TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE MARKET OUT THERE.

SO TO SPEAK ABOUT INVESTORS, ABOUT WHAT THIS PROJECT IS ABOUT, UH, WHAT, WHO'S INVOLVED, UH, WHAT SOURCE OF REVENUE IS THERE TO PAY OFF THE NOTES SO THAT THEY CAN, UH, PERSON THAT BUYS ONE OF THE NOTES OR ANY OF THE NOTES OR ALL OF THEM IS, IS SATISFIED THAT THERE IS A BACKING, NOT OF OUR GENERAL FUND, BUT OF OUR OBLIGATION TO PAY OUR SHARE OF THE JPA OBLIGATIONS.

AND THAT COMES EXCLUSIVELY FROM OUR WASTEWATER ENTERPRISE FUND, NOT OUR GENERAL FUND.

SO WE'VE NEGOTIATED, UH, LOTS OF LANGUAGE IN THIS DOCUMENT, BUT, UH, WE'RE AT THE POINT WHERE, UH, THE JP ITSELF IS READY TO, TO APPROVE,

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UH, CERTAIN ACTIONS AND THEY'VE ASKED FOR OUR ACTION TO ADOPT THIS RESOLUTION.

AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR THIS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE ATTORNEY? NO.

JEN, ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM? THERE ARE NO SPEAKER CARDS, SIR.

ALRIGHT, I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION THEN.

OH, BILL, YES.

UH, I'M GONNA MA I'LL MAKE A MOTION, BUT FIRST I WANNA MENTION THAT THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS EVER DONE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE RECYCLING 30% OF OUR WATER UNDER THIS PLAN.

SO THERE'LL BE SOME CITIES WHERE THEY, UH, HAVE SEVERE WATER RATIONING.

AND BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA GET OUR 30%, OURS WOULD NOT BE AS SEVERE, IF ANY AT ALL.

SO, GOOD POINT.

WHEN, WHEN YOU TURN ON THE TAP, YOU WANT WATER TO COME OUT, AND IF IT'S NOT COMING OUT, YOUR COMMUNITY BECOMES UNLIVABLE.

SO THIS, THIS WILL BENEFIT OUR CHILDREN OR GRANDCHILDREN AND SO ON INTO PERPETUITY.

EXCELLENT POINT.

UM, DID YOU WANNA MAKE THAT MOTION? AND I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

WE, UH, ACCEPT THE, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

SENATOR, DO YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING BEFORE, BEFORE THAT? WELL, COUNCILMAN KENDRICK OPENED THE DOOR ON THE PROJECT, WHICH IS, IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.

UH, THERE, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT RECYCLED WATER.

WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TO REALIZE IS THAT, UH, SAN DIEGO COUNTY GETS A LOT OF ITS WATER FROM THE COLORADO RIVER AND IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY, WE DIS WE TREAT WASTEWATER AT THE POINT LOMA TREATMENT PLANT AND SEND IT OUT TO THE SEA PEOPLE ALONG THE COLORADO RIVER AND THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF WATER AGENCY TREATMENT AGENCIES, THEIR, THEIR WASTEWATER TREATED WASTEWATER GOES INTO THE COLORADO RIVER , AND THAT'S THE SOURCE OF THE WATER FOR THE COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY.

AND THEN IT'S CLEANSED AGAIN BY THE COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY AND IT'S CLEANSED AGAIN BY HELIX.

SO, UH, IF YOU'VE BEEN TO DISNEYLAND OR YOU'VE BEEN TO NOT SPRAY FARM OR FAST FOOD IN ORANGE COUNTY IN THE PAST 20 YEARS, YOU'VE, YOU'VE HAD RECYCLED WATER, WHICH IS MORE SAFE THAN, UH, THAN MOST WATER BECAUSE OF THE FOUR STAGES IT GOES THROUGH.

THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT.

HERE'S THE KEY.

THE WATER THAT HELIX BUYS FROM THE A WP IS INDEXED AT 9% LESS THAN WHAT THEY COULD HAVE BOUGHT IT FOR FROM THE COUNTY WATER AUTHORITY.

THEY WILL ALWAYS SAVE MONEY.

NOW, IF THE CW RATES KEEP GOING UP, SO DOES THE REVENUE TO THE JPA THAT CAN ONLY REDUCE OUR WASTEWATER FEES OR KEEP THEM IN CHECK.

AND SO THAT, IT'S A GREAT PROJECT, IT'S A SUPER SAFE PROJECT, AND THE WATER THAT WE TREAT IS GOING BACK INTO THE LAKE LAKE JENNINGS WHERE IT'S, IT'S 11 MILLION GALLONS A DAY BACK INTO LAKE JENNINGS, A 3 BILLION GALLON LAKE WHERE IT GETS MIXED IN WITH THE ECOSYSTEM.

AND IT'S LIKE, UH, THE LAST THING THEY DO BEFORE THEY PUT IT IN A LAKE IS TO DE CHLORINATE.

'CAUSE STEP FOUR IS CHLORINATION.

WELL, THEY HAVE TO DE CHLORINATE IT IN THE SAME WAY WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU PUT UH, FISH INTO A TANK OF TAP WATER, YOU HAVE TO ADD A COUPLE OF DROPS TO DE CHLORINATE THE TAP WATER TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR THE FISH.

AND THIS IS A SUPER SAFE PROJECT.

IT IS SUPER FRONT EDGE AND IT WILL ONLY SAVE US MONEY IN THE LONG TERM.

AND, UH, WILL SECURE WATER FOR US FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.

AND, UH, SO I'LL SECOND THE MOTION AND I'M JUST SO PLEASED TO BE PART OF THAT PROJECT THAT IT'S GOOD FOR ALL OF US.

GREAT.

MOTION IS, UH, MADE AND SECONDED.

PLEASE VOTE.

I'M LOOKING FOR ACTIVITIES REPORTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GOBEL AS REPORTED.

ALRIGHT, THERE ARE NO COMMISSIONER REPORTS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

ITEM 17 IS MY ACTIVITIES REPORT, WHICH IS AS REPORTED.

AND THEN

[18. COUNCILMEMBER STEVE GOBLE MTS (Metropolitan Transit System Board); East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority Board; Chamber of Commerce – Government Affairs Committee; SANDAG – Board of Directors – Alternate; SANDAG Public Safety Committee – Alternate.]

COUNCIL MEMBER KENDRICK,

[19. COUNCILMEMBER GARY KENDRICK METRO Commission/Wastewater JPA; Heartland Communications; Heartland Fire Training JPA.]

UH, I HAVE ONE THING TO ADD AND THAT IS I HAD A HEARTLAND FIRE COMMUNICATIONS MEETING LAST THURSDAY THAT I ATTENDED

[20. COUNCILMEMBER MICHELLE METSCHEL Harry Griffen Park Joint Steering Committee; METRO Commission/Wastewater JPA – Alternate; Heartland Communications – Alternate; Heartland Fire Training JPA – Alternate.]

COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL.

UM, AS REPORTED WITH ONE, UM, EXCEPTION.

I DID NOT MAKE THE MEMORIAL DAY, UM, EVENT AND COUNCIL

[21. DEPUTY MAYOR PHIL ORTIZ League of California Cities, San Diego Division; East County Economic Development Council; MTS (Metropolitan Transit System Board) – Alternate; East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority Board – Alternate; Chamber of Commerce – Government Affairs Committee – Alternate.]

MEMBER ORTIZ, UH, AS REPORTED WITH ONE EXCEPTION, I DID NOT MAKE THE AMERICAN LEGION POST 3 0 3 EVENT.

OKAY, THERE ARE NO, NO JOINT COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS, NO GENERAL INFORMATION ITEMS, NO FIRST READINGS OF ORDINANCES ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

WE HAVE

[22. Zoning Code Update RECOMMENDATION: That Mayor Wells requests the City Clerk to recite the title. An Ordinance Approving Zoning Code Amendment No. 2024-0001 for Amendment of Title 17 of the El Cajon Municipal Code for Economic Development, Housing, and other Minor Technical Changes, Revisions, and Edits. This project is exempt pursuant to the California Environmental Quality Act ("CEQA") in accordance with State CEQA Guidelines section 15061(b)(3), the “Common Sense” exemption. The common sense exemption applies where it can be seen with certainty that there is no possibility that the activity in question may have a significant effect on the environment. The proposed amendment does not result in any development or changes to the physical environment and does not raise this project to a level of significance that warrants CEQA analysis.]

A SECOND READING AND ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

ITEM 22 IS A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT NUMBER

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2024 DASH 0 0 1.

I WILL ASK OUR DEPUTY CITY CLERK TO READ THE TITLE, BUT FIRST JAN, ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS ITEM? THERE ARE NO SPEAKER CARDS.

AND WOULD YOU PLEASE RECITE THE TITLE? YES, SIR.

AND THERE IS A PRINTED COPY OF THE ORDINANCE PROVIDED FOR EACH OF YOU ON YOUR DESKS, AND THE TITLE READS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING ZONING CODE AMENDMENT NUMBER 2 0 2 4 DASH 0 1 0 0 0 1 FOR AMENDMENT OF TITLE 17 OF THE EL CAJON MUNICIPAL CODE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOUSING, AND OTHER MINOR TECHNICAL CHANGES, REVISIONS AND EDITS.

THANK YOU, GRAHAM.

DO WE STILL HAVE ANY, UH, CLOSED SESSION ITEMS? WE DO.

SO WE'RE AT CLOSED SESSION ITEMS AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY WILL RECITE THE TITLE.

WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO VOTE ON THE SECOND READING.

OH, I APOLOGIZE.

UM, MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE SECOND READ.

UH, SECOND READ THE ORDINANCE SECOND PLEASE VOTE.

WOULD YOU RECITE THE TITLE AND LEAD US INTO CLOSED SESSION? THE DEPUTY, SIR? OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CLOSED SESSION.

ALRIGHT, MR. CHAIR,

[23. CLOSED SESSIONS:]

I, UH, SORRY, I WAS A MISTAKE IN MY, UH, GOT IT.

UH, THE CITY COUNCIL'S GONNA MEET IN CLOSED SESSION ON ONE ITEM.

ITEM 23.

IT'S A CLOSED SESSION FOR A CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATORS PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 5 6 0.8.

THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 4 25 WEST MAIN STREET.

THE NEGOTIATING PARTIES ARE JAL INC.

AND HITESH C PATEL AS THE CEO, UH, WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY.

UNDER NEGOTIATION WOULD BE PRICE IN TERMS OF PAYMENT FOR ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE CLOSED SESSION.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.