Jul 09, 2019 City Council Meeting 3pm

OKAY.

GREAT.

[ CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Bill Wells]

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THE MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER AND LIKE TO ASK OUR CITY CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL.

ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? WE HAVE PHIL OUR LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE.

I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO DEDICATE A MOMENT OF SILENCE TO MIKE GRIFFITHS.

MICHAEL LOST THE BATTLE OF CANCER LAST WEEK.

MIKE WAS HIRED AS AN ASSOCIATE CIVIL ENGINEER IN 2001 IT WAS PROMOTED TO DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS IN 2006 HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR LAND DEVELOPMENT, STORE WATER AND GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION SYSTEMS. HE ALSO SERVED AS THE CITY'S REPRESENTATIVE ON THE OVERSIGHT BOARD.

MICHAEL RETIRED FROM THE CITY IN MAY OF 2014 HE WAS A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE IN MAY.

HE REST IN PEACE.

READY? I PLAYED AND TUTOR .

THE CITY

[ POSTINGS: The City Clerk posted Orders of Adjournment of the June 25, 2019, Meeting and the Agenda of the July 9, 2019, Meetings in accordance to State Law and Council/Authority/Successor Agency to the Redevelopment Agency Policy.]

[ PRESENTATIONS: Presentation: Tobacco Retailer Licensing - 15th Year Anniversary Proclamation: Parks & Recreation Month ]

FOR THE FIRST ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY ACTION SERVICE AND AG FUSSY THIS DATA STEVENS TO THE PODIUM TO SHARE WITH US ALL ABOUT THIS.

AND HELLO DANA.

HOW ARE YOU? IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU.

THANK YOU.

HOW ARE YOU MAYOR? FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO MAYOR WELL'S COUNCIL AND STAFF FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE YOU ON THE 15 YEAR ANNIVERSARY OF THE TOBACCO RETAILER LICENSE HERE IN EL CAHONE.

UM, IT HAS, UM, IT'S GOT A LOT TO SHOW FOR ITSELF AND I'M EXCITED TO SHOW YOU, UM, I'D LIKE TO START BY HANDING SOMETHING FOR YOU TO SEE.

IT'S THE CASE STUDY.

I SUPPOSE IT WOULD HELP IF I TURN IT ON.

THERE WE GO.

OF COURSE, WE ALL KNOW THAT TOBACCO KILLS AM AND IN AMERICA IT KILLS MORE THAN EVERYTHING ELSE COMBINED.

ALL THE DRUGS, UM, HOMICIDE, SUICIDE, UM, AIDS, UM, ALL THINGS COMBINED.

AND THAT'S WHY WE CARE SO MUCH ABOUT TOBACCO.

AND IN FACT, WE KNOW THAT WHEN YOUNG PEOPLE START USING TOBACCO EARLY, THEY ARE MORE LIKELY TO BECOME ADDICTED TO TOBACCO.

UM, IF THEY BEGIN USING TOBACCO BEFORE AGE 18, ONE OUT OF THREE WILL QUIT.

THE OTHER TWO THIRDS WILL HAVE A LIFETIME ADDICTION TO NICOTINE AND HAVE THEM ONE HALF WILL DIE OF A TOBACCO RELATED DISEASE.

THAT'S NOT MY OPINION.

THAT'S THE OPINION OF THE U S SURGEON GENERAL.

AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS, HE MADE THAT PRONOUNCEMENT BACK IN 2012.

UM, WE KNOW THAT IF YOUNG PEOPLE CAN JUST FORESTALL THE INITIATION OF USE UNTIL THE AGE OF 26, THEY ALMOST NEVER WILL BEGIN THAT JOURNEY OF NICOTINE ADDICTION.

SO THE LONGER WE CAN KEEP TOBACCO AWAY FROM KIDS, THE BETTER WE ARE AS A SOCIETY, IN PART BECAUSE OF THE COST OF TOBACCO ADDICTION AND DISEASE, THEIR MORTALITY ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

UH, IN FACT, IN CALIFORNIA IT'S BEEN ILLEGAL TO SELL TOBACCO TO MINORS FOR WELL OVER A HUNDRED YEARS.

AND YET IN 2004 HERE IN EL CAHONE, 40%, 40% OF THE STORES SOLD TOBACCO TO CHILDREN.

UH, AT THAT TIME, THE AGE WAS 18, UH, THE MINIMUM LEGAL AGE TO PURCHASE TOBACCO.

AND SO WE WERE USING, UH, YOUNG PEOPLE AT THAT TIME THAT WERE AGE 16 TO PURCHASE TOBACCO AND 40% OF THE STORE SOLD.

SO, UM, WE STARTED WORKING ACTUALLY WITH, UH, OUR CONSOLE MO FROM AT THAT TIME, THE CAL D AND MERCHANTS ASSOCIATION.

AND HE HELPED US, WE ASKED HIM TO HELP DO TRAINING FOR THE TOBACCO RETAILERS HERE IN EL CAHONE AND EVEN HE COULD NOT GET THE RETAILERS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE ED TOBACCO EDUCATION AND HELP THEM UNDERSTAND THE LAWS ABOUT TOBACCO SALES TO MINORS.

SO

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AND AGAIN, 40% OF THE STORES SOLD TO OUR MINOR DECOYS.

UM, SO THAT'S WHEN, UH, WE CAME TO THE CITY, WE PRESENTED THE INFORMATION.

AND, UM, IN FACT SOME OF YOU ARE HERE STILL A COUNCIL MEMBER, KENDRICK AND MCCLELLAN, UM, AND, UH, MORGAN, UM, WERE HERE THEN AND WE BROUGHT THIS INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH YOU AND ASK FOR HELP TO ADOPT A REGULATION TO ACTUALLY HOLD THE RETAILERS ACCOUNTABLE.

ALTHOUGH IT HAD BEEN ILLEGAL TO SELL TOBACCO TO MINORS, THERE WAS REALLY NO ACCOUNTABILITY.

AND THE RETAILERS KNEW THAT THERE'S NO STATE POLICE.

NO ONE WAS COMING AFTER THEM TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE WHEN SELLING TO MINORS.

SO, UM, THAT THE CITY, UM, HOSTED A SERIES OF, UM, BROWN BAG, UM, DISCUSSIONS, ROUND TABLE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE INDUSTRY, WITH PUBLIC HEALTH ADVOCATES LIKE CASA LUNG ASSOCIATION, CANCER SOCIETY AND UM, CAME OUT THE OTHER END WITH AN ORDINANCE.

AND THAT ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED IN 2004.

AND, UM, THANKS TO THE HARD WORK OF THE CITY AND I KNOW MORGAN AND BARBARA PUT IN A LOT OF HARD WORK, UH, TO DEVELOP, UH, THE PROCESS, THE SYSTEM FOR HOW THIS WAS GONNA WORK.

ELCA HOME WAS THE FIRST CITY IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY TO ADOPT THIS KIND OF AN ORDINANCE.

AND, UM, SO IT WAS REALLY FROM WHOLE CLOTH THAT THIS HAD TO BE CREATED.

AND, UM, I KNOW IT WAS A LOT OF WORK AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR FAITH AND, AND WORK ON IT.

BUT IN 2006 LICENSES BEGAN BEING ISSUED AND UH, THAT'S WHEN WE BEGAN DOING COMPLIANCE CHECKING.

UM, WITH THE CITY OF AS A, UH, A PARTNERSHIP, UH, TO ENGAGE YOUNG PEOPLE FROM AMONG OUR YOUTH VOLUNTEERS WHO CARE ABOUT THEIR CITY CARE ABOUT PUBLIC HEALTH AND WANTED TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP PREVENT THE SALE OF TOBACCO TO MINORS.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE, ALTHOUGH THE DATES ARE KIND OF FADED, WE WENT FROM 40% SALES IN 2006.

UM, WHEN WE BEGAN DOING THE COMPLIANCE CHECKING DOWN TO 1% IN 2011, I WOULD SAY THAT'S PRETTY SUCCESSFUL.

AND UM, UH, THAT WAS, THAT WAS VERY, VERY SIGNIFICANT.

BUT THINGS CHANGE IN THE TOBACCO INDUSTRY.

THEY'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR THEIR NEXT MARKET.

AND IT WAS AROUND 2011 THAT THEY BEGAN TO INTRODUCE, UH, ELECTRONIC SMOKING DEVICES.

I TRIED TO FIND FOR YOU THE VERY FIRST, UM, ELECTRONIC CIGARETTE THAT WE HAD IN OUR OFFICE AND THAT WENT BACK TO, UH, 2007.

UH, IT LOOKS LIKE A CIGARETTE AND IT JUST GETS LIT ON THE END.

NOTHING IN IT.

NOW, WHAT WE HAVE TODAY, A WIDE RANGE OF PRODUCTS, UM, WITH, UM, LIQUID.

UM, AND OF COURSE WE HAVE TO MAKE THESE ATTRACTIVE TO YOUNG PEOPLE SO THAT THEY HAVE A CONTINUOUS MARKET OF CONSUMERS.

SO WE HAVE THE PEACH ICE LIQUID.

UM, THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT ARE OUR DECREE PURCHASED HERE.

NOW CAHONE UM, WE HAVE THESE SWEET LITTLE CIGARILLOS IN GRAPE.

UH, WE DID SOME RESEARCH.

IT DIDN'T TAKE LONG TO FIGURE OUT THAT MANGO IS THE FAVORITE.

UM, HERE IS VANILLA, THE END, YOU CAN SEE THE PRICE.

THESE ARE REALLY CHEAP AND THIS IS WHAT KIDS BUY.

THESE WERE PURCHASED HERE.

UM, I DON'T HAVE THE MANGO BECAUSE THEY'RE STILL UNDER LOCK AND KEY WAITING TO BE HEARD, UM, IN A COMPLIANT BECAUSE THEY WERE PURCHASED THIS YEAR.

BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, THIS RANGE OF NEW PRODUCTS ARE REALLY GEARED TOWARD A YOUTHFUL AUDIENCE.

UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE PRODUCTS IS KIND OF HOW IT LOOKS WHEN WE DO OUR COMPLIANCE MONITORING.

AND SO WHEN SALES TO OUR YOUTH, I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT IN JUST A MINUTE.

UM, BUT BY 2013, OR, I'M SORRY, THIS IS ONE OF THE NEW FRANCO PRODUCTS THAT LOOKS LIKE A FLASH DRIVE.

UM, IT IS ACTUALLY A SMOKING DEVICE AND UM, THIS IS NOT ONE OF THE JEWELS BECAUSE THERE ARE ABOUT $40.

UM, SO I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO BUY THOSE IF I CAN HELP IT BY, BY 2013 THE YOUTH USE RATE HERE IN EAST COUNTY OF JUST THESE PRODUCTS, NOT TOBACCO, BUT JUST THESE PRODUCTS ALONE.

THE ELECTRONIC SMOKING DEVICES WAS UP TO 13%.

SO WE CAME BACK TO THE CITY AND SAID, LOOK, YOU KNOW, WE NEED YOUR HELP.

WE WANT TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE SO THAT WE CAN INCLUDE THESE KINDS OF PRODUCTS IN THE COMPLIANCE MONITORING AND UM,

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AND SO WE BEGAN INCLUDING THOSE, THESE PRODUCTS IN OUR COMPLIANCE MONITORING.

UM, SO I WANT TO TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE MONITORING.

UM, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT ORDINANCE WAS WRITTEN AND BECAUSE OF THE FEE THAT TOBACCO RETAILERS PAY HERE IN , THE COMPLIANCE MONITORING INCLUDES ALL 100% OF THE STORES.

EVERY SINGLE TOBACCO RETAILER HERE IN THE CITY OF EL CAHONE IS VISITED AT LEAST ONE TIME PER YEAR.

THERE'S NO SELECTION OF, YOU KNOW, PICKING ON ANYONE OR ANYONE'S STORE, ANY TYPES OF STORES.

100% OF THE STORES, EVERY SINGLE STORE FROM BONDS DOWN TO CHRISTY'S DONUTS, UH, GETS VISITED EVERY SINGLE YEAR, UM, AND AT NO COST TO THE TAXPAYER.

SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S A FEE TO THE RETAILER.

A FEE TO THE RETAILER ALSO GIVES THEM SOME SKIN IN THE GAME.

THEY HAVE A REASON TO COMPLY.

THEY HAVE, UM, SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD LOSE.

AND INDEED OVER TIME, UM, WITH, UH, ENOUGH SALES TO MINORS OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD, UM, THAT WOULD BE A FOURTH OFFENSE.

OVER FIVE YEARS, A RETAILER COULD LOSE THEIR LICENSE TO SELL TOBACCO HERE IN ALCOHOL.

THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED YET.

UM, AND I'M GLAD FOR THAT.

I MEAN, IT'S, WE'RE DOING WELL.

IT'S A GOOD DAY FOR US AT, AT CASA WHEN OUR DECREASE GO OUT AND COME BACK WITH NOTHING, I'M HAPPY WHEN THEY COME BACK WITH NOTHING.

IT MEANS THAT RETAILERS ARE LEARNING.

IT MEANS THEY'RE DOING THEIR JOB, THEY'RE CHECKING ID AND THEY'RE PAYING ATTENTION AND THEY'RE DECLINING SALES.

THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO SEE.

BUT ON A FIRST TIME OFFENSE, IT'S $1,000.

AND WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS THAT MOST OF THEM WILL PAY THAT THOUSAND DOLLAR FINE AS OPPOSED TO, UM, FIGHTING THAT AND HAVING TO COME INTO THIS ROOM ACTUALLY AND UH, FACE AN ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE AND UM, DEFEND THEIR BEHAVIOR.

A LOT OF TIME THEY'RE RE, UH, THIS, THE RETAILERS SOMETIMES EVEN GIVE US A RECEIPT THAT SHOWS THE CLERK'S BIRTHDAY ON THE RECEIPT RATHER THAN THE DECREASE BIRTHDAY.

UM, THAT'S JUST ASTONISHING TO ME, BUT IT HAPPENS.

UM, SO THAT TELLS YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW WE GO ABOUT THE, THE, UM, THE MONITORING THIS, WE USE AN EVIDENCE BANK FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

ALL THE PAPERWORK GOES IN THERE, THE PRODUCT GOES IN THERE.

THIS IS AN OLD BAG FROM A PREVIOUS YEAR.

NOW WE ACTUALLY ALSO INCLUDE THE CHANGE IF THEY WERE GIVEN CHANGE.

UM, BUT SHE GAVE HER, THERE WASN'T A RECEIPT BECAUSE WE WANT TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT.

UM, BUT ALL THE DOCUMENTS GO IN HERE THAT THE ONE THAT THE DKA FILLS OUT AND THE ONE THAT, THE AFFIDAVIT THAT THE ADULT SUPERVISOR WHO WITNESSES THE SALE FILLS OUT.

AND THEN THERE'S A FORM THAT I FEEL OUT WHEN I RECEIVED THE DOCUMENTS AND, AND COLLECT THE TESTIMONY FROM THE, OH, THE AFFIDAVIT, UH, FROM THE D COY AND THE ADULT SUPERVISOR.

UM, SO WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE 2006, AND THEN ALONG ABOUT 2016 HOORAY.

THEY RAISED THE AGE OF SALE TO 21 IN CALIFORNIA.

WE WERE NOT THE FIRST STATE, UH, BUT WE'RE THE LARGEST STATE THAT'S SO FAR IN OUR UNIVERSE.

WE SAW THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ZERO SALES.

NO ONE'S GOING TO SELL TO A MINOR ANYMORE WHEN THEY HAVE TO BE 21.

AFTER ALL, CALIFORNIA HAD STARTED CHANGING THEIR LICENSES.

THIS IS ANOTHER THING THAT ADVOCATES HAD BEEN HOPING FOR OVER THE YEARS IS THIS CHANGE TO A PORTRAIT FORMAT.

SO IF SOMEONE'S UNDER THE AGE OF 21 THERE IS A RED BAR.

THAT RED BAR ACTUALLY SAYS IN IT AGE 21 AND ON THIS OCCASION IN 2020 NOW THIS YOUNG MAN IS ONE OF MY DECOYS.

I'M, UH, I'M OFFERING TO SHOW YOU HIS LICENSE BECAUSE HE'S AGING OUT AND HE WON'T BE ABLE TO BUY FOR ME ANYMORE.

BUT THIS YOUNG MAN SHOWS THIS LICENSE, THIS LICENSE, THIS PICTURE, AND THEY STILL SELL TO HIM.

THIS MAKES ME VERY SAD.

THIS CLEARLY SHOWS THAT SOMEONE IS UNDER THE AGE OF 21 AND IN FACT, WHEN HE USES THAT LICENSE AND SOMEONE RUNS IT THROUGH THEIR SCANNING MACHINE THAT SAYS BELLS AND WHISTLES, THIS PERSON IS NOT OLD ENOUGH.

HE'S ACTUALLY BEEN TOLD MANY TIMES, WELL, THE MACHINE MUST NOT BE WORKING AGAIN AND THEY SELL IT TO HIM ANYWAY.

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UM, IN, AND IN FACT, WE HAVE SEEN AN INCREASE IN THIS SALES TO MINORS IN ALCOHOL AND OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND THIS HAS TAKEN ABACK.

WHY WOULD, WHY HAS IT GONE FROM EASIER TO DISTINGUISH SOMEONE WHO'S UNDER THE AGE AND, AND RESULTED IN READER CELLS.

AND SO WE'VE TALKED TO COLLEAGUES AROUND THE STATE TO TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

AND WE'VE ACTUALLY TALKED TO COLLEAGUES OUTSIDE OF THE STATE.

AND AS IT TURNS OUT, THAT ALCOHOL IS NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT'S EXPERIENCING AN INCREASE.

AND IN FACT, A RECENT STUDY THAT WAS PUBLISHED ON JUNE 25TH AND THE, UM, JOURNAL OF AMERICAN MEDICINE FOR, UM, A MEDICAL ASSOCIATION FOR PEDIATRICS REPORTED THAT HALF, HALF OF THE VAPE SHOPS AND SMOKE SHOPS WHERE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO BE OVER 21 TO GO IN OVER HALF.

UH, AROUND HALF OF THEM HAVE BEEN SELLING TO MINORS.

SO IT'S NOT JUST A PROBLEM HERE IN ALCOHOL, IN ALCOHOL, IT'S A GROWING PROBLEM WITH THE FOLKS THAT SELL THESE PRODUCTS TO OUR KIDS.

AND THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DESIGNED FOR IS FOR KIDS.

UM, TYPICALLY ADULTS DO NOT GO IN FOR PEACHY ICE OR FOR WATERMELON FLAVOR.

THOSE ARE KID FLAVORS.

WE CALLED THEM THE JOLLY RANCHER FLAVORS.

UM, SO WE'RE SEEING THIS AROUND THE COUNTRY, BUT, UH, DOESN'T MEAN THAT ORDINANCE ISN'T WORKING.

IN FACT, WE HAVE SEEN A REDUCTION IN, UH, YOUNG PEOPLE REPORTING THAT TOBACCO IS VERY EASY TO GET BACK IN 2008.

YOU CAN SEE, UM, WHERE, UM, UH, 11TH GRADERS REPORTED THAT TOBACCO WAS VERY EASY TO GET.

AND THAT'S THE GREEN LINE.

THE PURPLE LINE IS FOR NINTH GRADERS SAYING THAT TOBACCO IS EASY TO GET, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT REDUCTION OVER TIME.

NOW THAT MIGHT NOT SEEM LIKE A HUGE REDUCTION TO YOU, BUT A THIRD AMONG NINTH GRADERS, MORE THAN A THIRD, THAT'S A PRETTY BIG DEAL IN SOCIAL SCIENCE.

SOMETIMES WE'RE HAPPY TO GET A COUPLE PERCENT.

SO WE'RE REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT KIND OF A REDUCTION IN YOUNG PEOPLE THINKING THAT TOBACCO IS EASY TO GET.

BUT THEN WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES, DOES THAT RESULT IN A REDUCTION IN YOUTH ACTUALLY USING TOBACCO? AND INDEED WE CAN SEE IT DOES.

UM, AND WE'VE BEEN MEASURING, UM, THE USE OF TOBACCO AND ELECTRONIC CIGARETTES, UH, FOR TOBACCO SINCE 2008 WHEN WE STARTED PROJECT WITH YOU AND E-CIGARETTES REALLY BECAME, UM, UM, WERE, WERE ADDED TO THE CALIFORNIA HEALTHY KIDS SURVEY IN 2014.

SO YOU CAN SEE BOTH OF THOSE LINES THERE.

WE'VE HAD A 91% REDUCTION IN YOUTH USING TOBACCO SINCE WE STARTED THIS PROJECT.

THAT'S A BIG DEAL.

IF YOU WALK BACK TO WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TALKING TODAY ABOUT ONE THIRD AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO QUIT AND TWO THIRDS WILL HAVE A LIFETIME OF ADDICTION.

WHEN WE REDUCE THAT BY 91%.

WE'RE MAKING A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN PUBLIC HEALTH AND IN HEALTH OF OUR YOUNG PEOPLE OVER THEIR LIFETIME, NOT JUST TODAY OR TOMORROW, BUT OVER THEIR LIFETIME.

THIS IS A VERY BIG DEAL.

AND EVEN THE 59% REDUCTION IN VAPING AMONG 11TH GRADERS, THE CDC, UM, JUST REPORTED IN JUNE A 78% INCREASE IN VAPING AMONG, UH, 11TH GRADERS NATIONALLY BETWEEN 2017 AND 2018.

BUT HERE IN, WE'RE SEEING A REDUCTION IN VAPING AMONG YOUTH.

AND THAT'S A PRETTY BIG DEAL THAT CAN'T BE SAID EVERYWHERE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.

SO, UM, WE'RE SEEING THE SAME KINDS OF REDUCTION AMONG THE NINTH GRADERS.

AND I THINK THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN .

YES, WE'VE SEEN A SMALL UPTICK, BUT THE CITY HAS DONE A GREAT JOB.

I REALLY HAVE TO APPLAUD BARBARA LUCK, HOLLY SAVAGE, TONY CHUTE, AND UH, FOR THE, THE DILIGENCE IN ADDRESSING THIS AND HELPING TO KEEP THOSE NUMBERS DOWN EVEN WHILE ACROSS THE NATION, THEY'RE SKYROCKETING.

UM, AND IN OUR REASONING, THAT'S WHAT MAKES US DIFFERENT IN ALCOHOL.

WHEN WE LOOK IN SOCIAL SCIENCE OR PUBLIC HEALTH RESEARCH, WHAT HAS CHANGED? WHAT MAKES THE OUTCOME IN THIS COMMUNITY DIFFERENT THAN THE OUTCOME IN THAT COMMUNITY? IT'S, WHAT HAVE THEY DONE DIFFERENTLY? WELL, WHAT'S DIFFERENT IS EL CAHONE HAS A TOBACCO RETAILER LICENSING ORDINANCE THAT WORKS AND IT HAS

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I CANNOT TELL YOU HOW PROUD CASI IS TO BE A PART OF THIS EFFORT HERE IN OKLAHOMA.

HOW GRATEFUL WE ARE FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND WHETHER THEY WILL EVER ACKNOWLEDGE IT IN HIGH SCHOOL OR NOT.

YOUNG PEOPLE GROW UP IN THIS COMMUNITY, STAY IN THIS COMMUNITY AND THEY ARE IN A BETTER PLACE BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS DONE AND THE LEADERSHIP AND TOBACCO PREVENTION THAT YOU'VE DONE.

AGAIN, I THINK SHE'S SO MUCH, AND THANK YOU FOR LETTING US BE A PART OF THIS MOVEMENT.

UM, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

OH, FIRST OF ALL, I'LL GIVE YOU A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'VE DONE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS, JOHN.

HI CARRIE.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU COULD SUGGEST THAT WE COULD DO TO LOWER THE VAPING SALES RATE? WELL, THERE'S THINGS THAT, UM, THE SURGEON GENERAL, THE, AND THE CDC CDC ARE RECOMMENDING AND WE'RE NOW SEEING IN OTHER COMMUNITIES START TO PERCOLATE UP.

ONE IS A RECOMMENDATION THAT ALL FLAVORED TOBACCO BE MOVED INTO THE STORES THAT ARE AGE RESTRICTED, LIKE THE SMOKE SHOPS OR VAPE SHOPS.

UM, AND THAT TAKES THEM OUT OF PLACES LIKE SEVEN 11 WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO STOP AND BUY, YOU KNOW, POTATO CHIPS AND WHATEVER ELSE ON THE WAY HOME FROM SCHOOL.

UH, BUT MOVING THOSE TO AN AGE RESTRICTED LOCATION, UM, MOVES THEM AWAY.

BUT THAT'S, WE'VE GOT TO STAY WITH THE TRL ON TOP OF THAT AND STAY WITH THE COMPLIANCE.

UM, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION IS, UH, THAT SOME CITIES ARE, UM, PASSING ORDINANCES TO ELIMINATE THE SALE OF FLAVORED TOBACCO PRODUCTS, INCLUDING MENTHOL, UH, BECAUSE THAT'S, THEY'RE DESIGNED TO BE SPECIFICALLY FOR A YOUTHFUL AUDIENCE.

UH, THOSE ARE THE TWO KIND OF MOST ADVANCED, UH, POLICY DIRECTIONS THAT WE'RE SEEING AROUND CALIFORNIA AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND ARE RECOMMENDED BY THE CDC AND, UM, THE FDA, HOW MUCH DOES THE TYPICAL CONVENIENCE STORE, SO IN TOBACCO PRODUCTS IN ONE YEAR? UM, WELL WE HAVE, WE HAVE JOURNAL REPORTS FROM THE CONVENIENCE STORE JOURNALS.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UM, ASSOCIATION JOURNALS.

UM, ONE, UH, SUGGEST THAT A TYPICAL CONVENIENCE STORE WILL SELL, UM, $800,000 WORTH OF TOBACCO PRODUCTS OVER THE COURSE OF A YEAR.

AND WHAT IS OUR LICENSED TOBACCO LICENSE FEE RIGHT NOW? OH, I WAS AFRAID YOU WERE GOING TO ASK THAT.

AND I MEANT TO LOOK IT UP BEFORE I LEFT.

I'M GOING TO LOOK AT FOR TONY SOMEWHERE.

I THINK IT'S A $700.

OKAY.

AND ARE THERE OTHER CITIES THAT UH, DON'T HAVE THE OPTION OF THE THOUSAND DOLLAR FINE? THEY JUST SAY, OKAY, 30 DAYS, NO TOBACCO IF YOU GET CAUGHT SELLING TO CHILDREN.

UM, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT.

UM, I MOST CITIES OFFER A PENALTY A FINE, UM, AND THEY CAN PAY THE FINE OR HAVE THE 30 DAY SUSPENSION.

UM, I THINK $1,000 IS PRETTY MINIMAL.

UH, THEY'VE KNOWN ABOUT THIS.

THEY HAVE HAD SO MANY OPTIONS FOR, UM, TRAINING THEIR STAFF.

UM, WE PROVIDE TRAINING MATERIALS.

UM, WE HAVE GONE OUT ON SO MANY OCCASIONS TO THE STORES.

MOST OF THE RETAILERS HERE KNOW US, UM, UNDER THE DEEMED APPROVED ORDINANCE.

THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING TRAINING.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT'S HAPPENING, UM, AT AS REGULARLY AS IT SHOULD.

UM, SO I THINK $1,000 IS PRETTY CHEAP.

SO, UH, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE AUDIENCE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPLAIN DEAN TO PROVE VERY QUICKLY? UH, SURE.

UH, THAT WAS ANOTHER EL CAHONE LEADS THE WAY ORDINANCE, UM, HOLDING THE RETAILERS, UH, THAT SELL ALCOHOL ACCOUNTABLE WHEN THEY VIOLATE, UM, THE STATE OR LOCAL LAWS AROUND ALCOHOL.

UH, WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT OR THAT THEY ARE A LEGAL NONCONFORMING, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET BACK IN LINE AND APPLY FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND MEET NEWLY DEFINED STANDARDS THAT CAME OUT OF SEVERAL WORKSHOPS AND UM, THE WORK OF THIS COUNCIL AND YOUR, AND TONY CHUTE AND OTHERS.

YEAH.

IS IT YOUR OPINION THAT THE SAME PEOPLE, THE SAME RETAILERS THAT SELL THE TOBACCO, THE KIDS ARE SELLING ALCOHOL TO KIDS? YOU KNOW, I'VE GIVEN A LOT OF THOUGHT TO WHY WOULD THEY BE WILLING TO SELL TOBACCO TO SOMEONE WHO'S UNDER AGE 21 EVEN WHEN THE LICENSES IN THAT PORTRAIT FORMAT AND

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I CAN'T IMAGINE THAT THEY REALLY SAY, OH, TOBACCO IS OKAY, BUT NOT ALCOHOL.

I GET A SENSE THAT THEY ARE JUST SELLING PRODUCTS BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THEY MAKE A LIVING.

YOU'RE PROFITING.

THEY MAKE A LOT OF PROFIT.

YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THE COUNCIL AND I WAS AGAINST SMOKING BECAUSE, UH, MY MOTHER HAD EMPHYSEMA AND MY SISTER IS A CHAIN SMOKER FOR YEARS AND THEY BOTH ACTUALLY BOTH DIED FROM SMOKING.

BUT, UM, ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS WE DID WAS, UH, WE USED TO HAVE CIGARETTE MACHINES AROUND THE CITY.

YEAH.

AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THAT I PROPOSED IS TO DO AWAY WITH THE CIGARETTE MACHINES.

AND, UM, SO THAT WAS WAY BACK WHEN.

AND THEN, UM, THE NEXT THING WE DID WAS, UM, A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE SMOKING IN RESTAURANTS AND, UM, I, UH, HAD THE CHAMBER, UM, MAKE A SURVEY OF ALL OF THE, UH, RESTAURANTS AND WHAT THEY CAME UP WITH, TWO THIRDS OF THE RESTAURANT SAID, WE LIKE TO HAVE IT OUT LOUD ALL TOGETHER.

SO THAT WAS THE NEXT THING RATHER THAN HAVING A SMOKING AREA IN A NON-SMOKING AREA, UH, WE BAN SMOKING IN RESTAURANTS IN EL CAHONE.

THEN GARY GOT ELECTED AND I SAID, WELL, GARY, YOU'RE GOOD AT THIS AND, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL WORK TOGETHER ON THIS, BUT YOU TAKE THE LEAD.

AND GARY'S DONE A TREMENDOUS JOB AND I REALLY COMPLIMENT HIM ON THAT.

THANK YOU, BOB.

WELL, BACK TO THE LEADERSHIP OF THIS CITY ON BOTH THE, UH, TOBACCO VENDING MACHINES AND SMOKE-FREE RESTAURANTS, ELCA HOME PASS THOSE ORDINANCES LONG BEFORE THE STATE PASSED THE STATE LAW.

SO AGAIN, THIS CITY DEMONSTRATED A LOT OF LEADERSHIP IN PROTECTING PUBLIC HEALTH AND FRANKLY IT'S PROTECTING, UM, THE VIABILITY OF COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES.

THE REASON WHY RESTAURANTS LIKE IT IS BECAUSE THE TOBACCO, THE CIGARETTE BUTTS ARE RUINING THE UPHOLSTERY, MAKING THE PLACE STINK AND HAVE TO SCRUB THE WALLS.

AND BECAUSE THEIR STAFF AT THAT TIME, WOMEN WERE PREDOMINANTLY SERVERS AND THE LUNG CANCER RATE AMONG WOMEN, UH, WAS MUCH HIGHER THAN MEN.

AND IT WAS BECAUSE WOMEN WERE IN THE SERVICE INDUSTRY AND BREATHING THAT.

SO IT SAVED THEM MONEY, UM, BY TAKING CARE OF THEIR STAFF.

WELL, I WAS SURPRISED THAT THE RESTAURANTS ACTUALLY SAID THEY DIDN'T WANT THEM, BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DON'T BECAUSE OF THE CIGARETTE BURNS ON THE CARPETS AND THE UPHOLSTERY AND THEN THE LUNG CANCER AND THE EMPLOYEES AND YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, IN FACT, UM, MY WIFE WAS A, AT THE TIME WAS, UH, SHE WAS ALLERGIC TO SMOKE.

WE USED TO BOWL AND WE HAD TO STOP BOWLING BECAUSE SHE WAS ALLERGIC TO SMOKE AND UH, COULDN'T DO THAT.

BUT THE CIGARETTE MACHINES, A LOT OF KIDS WOULD BUY THEIR CIGARETTES HERE AND THE OLD DAYS AND YOU KNOW, LONG BEFORE SOME OF THESE PEOPLE WERE EVEN BORN IN THE AUDIENCE.

BUT, UH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE EASY ACCESS TO GET CIGARETTES OUT OF A MACHINE.

SO YEAH, WE WERE GLAD TO SEE THOSE GO YET TOBACCO IS THE ONLY LEGAL LEGAL PRODUCT THAT I KNOW OF THAT WHEN USED AS DIRECTED WILL KILL YOU AND IT CAN KILL THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU.

SO I REALLY APPLAUD YOUR EFFORTS IN LOWERING THE SMOKING RATE AMONG CHILDREN.

AND IN THE, NOW WE ONLY HAVE ABOUT 11% OF THE PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA THAT SMOKE.

EVEN DISNEYLAND NOW IS COMPLETELY SMOKE-FREE.

AND THAT'S SAYING SOMETHING CAUSE THEY MADE A BUSINESS DECISION.

IT'S GOOD FOR BUSINESS TO BE SMOKE-FREE.

YES.

SMOKERS.

WELL WE HOPE THAT SECOND READING ON THE 24TH WILL PASS.

YES SIR.

NO QUESTIONS.

JUST ENCOURAGEMENT AND THANKING YOU FOR BEING VIGILANT AS WELL AND BRINGING THIS TO THE COUNCIL AND THE CITY AND MAKING THIS KNOWN.

I HAVE A TWO YEAR OLD SON I'M GOING TO RAISE IN THE CITY AND HOPEFULLY MORE.

AND IT IS FRUSTRATING TO KNOW THAT RETAILERS ARE MAKING LIFELONG, UM, CONSUMERS OF A DEADLY PRODUCT.

IT'S IMMORAL AND YOU DON'T NEED TO BASE YOUR BUSINESS MODEL OFF OF SELLING TOBACCO TO KIDS.

AND IF THAT'S YOUR BUSINESS MODEL, THEN YOU SHOULDN'T BE IN BUSINESS.

SO THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.

AND I KNOW WE MENTIONED IT EARLIER, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO COME DOWN HARDER ON, ON THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE STILL SELLING.

I MEAN, YOU SAID $1,000 ISN'T MUCH.

UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO, TO STOP THIS OUT, BUT YOU'RE TAKING THE DECISION, UM, YOU'RE PUTTING THESE PEOPLE ARE BREAKING THE LAW AND THEY'RE PUTTING, TAKING DECISION AWAY FROM PARENTS, UM, AND, AND IT'S ABUSE IS WHAT IT IS TO CHILDREN AND SO THERE SHOULDN'T BE.

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THANK YOU, SIR.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

UH, WE HAVE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT JUST TALKED ABOUT CHANGING THE, UH, THE PENALTY.

DO WE HAVE TO PUT THAT ON THE FUTURE AGENDA THEN TO DISCUSS THAT IF WE WANT TO DO THAT? YES, THIS IS JUST A PRESENTATION AT THIS TIME.

EVEN IF IT WAS PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU WOULD NEED TO BRING IT BACK TO HALF STAFF DIRECT STAFF TO LOOK INTO THAT.

OKAY.

I'D LIKE TO DO THAT.

ANYBODY ELSE? WELL DANA, THANKS.

THANK YOU.

GREAT PRESENTATION AND GREAT WORK.

THANK YOU.

SO PLEASE GIVE THE REST OF YOUR SCRAP.

ALL RIGHT.

WE NOW HAVE PROCLAMATION FOR PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH.

I'D LIKE TO INVITE RECREATION DIRECTOR, FRANK CARSON TO READ THE PROCLAMATION.

ALSO WITH US TODAY ARE BRENDA PRUDEN AND TIM AMILA.

PLEASE JOIN FRANK AT THE PODIUM.

THE COUNCIL, I LIKE TO FIRST SHOW A PRETTY FOREIGN MINUTE VIDEO EVERY YEAR.

WE TRY TO DO A DIFFERENT PROMO.

COME ON DOWN, GUYS OF OUR PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH.

SO THIS IS OUR ART, OUR PROMO VIDEO THIS YEAR.

WE'LL SHOW HER FREE SUMMER MOVIES IN THE PARK AS WELL AS OTHER THINGS.

UM, THIS, THE NATIONAL RECREATION PARKS ASSOCIATION THEME THIS YEAR IS GAME ON.

SO TRY TO DO SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT WITH IT.

JULY IS NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH.

THE OKLAHOMA RECREATION DEPARTMENT BELIEVES THAT WE DEVELOP YOUTH SUPPORT FAMILIES AND PROVIDE SAFE PLACES.

THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA MAINTAINS 17 PARKS, OPERATES SIX COMMUNITY CENTERS IN ONE PUBLIC POOL.

OUR CORE SERVICES INCLUDE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMMING.

YOU SUPPORTS THESE DANCE AND CHEER, GYMNASTICS AND TUMBLING ACTIVE ADULTS AND SENIORS AND AQUATICS AND SWIM PROGRAMS. SOME OF OUR LARGE SCALE CITYWIDE SPECIALTY EVENTS INCLUDE AMERICA ON MAIN STREET, JULY 4TH HOT FEST AND FREE SUMMER MOVIES IN THE PARK THIS MONTH.

DON'T FORGET TO GET YOUR GAME ON.

JULY IS ALSO RECOGNIZES PARKS.

MAKE LIFE BETTER MONTH.

PLEASE COME OUT.

ENJOY YOUR PARKS AND RECREATION CENTERS.

HOPEFULLY NEXT TIME WHILE THE VOLUME A LITTLE BETTER.

THAT'S GOOD.

HOW'D YOU DO THAT THING? UH, IT'S UH, YEAH.

I'M GOING TO GIVE THE PROCLAMATION TO BRENDA AND TIM.

UH, BRENDA IS ONE OF OUR ALL STARS AND OUR PUBLIC PORTS DEPARTMENT WORKING IN THE PARKS DIVISION.

AND TIM RECENTLY GOT PROMOTED TO RECREATION SUPERVISOR OVERSEEING WELLS PARK AND COHEN VALLEY MIDDLE SCHOOL.

SO WHEREAS IS NATIONAL PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH AND PARKS AND RECREATION MAKES LOT LIVES AND COMMUNITIES BETTER, NOT ONLY IN JULY BUT ALL YEAR LONG.

PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS BUILD HEALTHY, ACTIVE COMMUNITIES THAT AID IN THE PREVENTION OF CHRONIC DISEASE, PROVIDE INCLUSION, RECREATION SERVICES FOR THOSE WHO ARE MENTALLY OR PHYSICALLY DISABLED AND ALSO IMPROVE THE MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL HEALTH ALL RESIDENTS.

WHEREAS EACH MONTH, OVER 100,000 PATRONS VISIT OUR LOCAL PARKS AND RECREATION FACILITIES IN OKLAHOMA, OUR PARKS TEAM ASSURES A CLEAN, BEAUTIFUL AND SAFE SETTING FOR YOU AND FOR YOUR FAMILY TO ENJOY.

THE RECREATION STAFF IS COMMITTED TO DELIVER ON THEIR PROMISE, TO DEVELOP YOUTH SUPPORT FAMILIES AND PROVIDE SAFE PLACES.

WHEREAS IN CELEBRATION OF PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH, WE INVITE YOU TO JOIN THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.

OBSERVANCE OF JULY IS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH BY VISITING A LOCAL PARK OR PARTICIPATING IN ANY ONE OF OUR OUTSTANDING PROGRAMS. THIS YEAR.

THE NATIONAL RECREATION PARKS ASSOCIATION THEME IS GAME ON THROUGH SUMMER CAMP, A YOUTH SPORTS LEAGUE EXPLORING A TRAIL, PICK A BALL, MEANING FRIENDS ON A PLAYGROUND, PICNICKING IN THE PARK OR DISCOVERING NATURE.

PARKS IN PLAY GO HAND IN HAND.

AND NOW THEREFORE I BILL WILL'S MAYOR OF THE CITY OF OAKLAND TOGETHER WITH THE CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF JULY, 2019 TO BE PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH IN THE CITY OF ALCON.

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LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

WELL, FRANK, I YOU GUYS DO A GREAT JOB THANKS TO YOUR ENTIRE STAFF FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.

THANK YOU SIR, AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR PROMOTION.

YEAH, YOU'RE WELCOME.

ALL RIGHT, AGENDA SHADE IS STAFF.

DO YOU HAVE ANY AGENDA CHANGES, MR MAYOR? WE HAVE NO CHANGES TO THE AGENDA COUNCIL.

WELL, IN FOUR

[7. CONSENT ITEMS: Consent Items are routine matters enacted by one motion according to the RECOMMENDATION listed below. With the concurrence of the City Council, a Council Member or person in attendance may request discussion of a Consent Item at this time.]

THE CONSENT ITEMS, CONSENT ITEMS ARE ROUTINE MATTERS AND ACT BY ONE MOTION ACCORDING TO THE RECOMMENDATION LISTS BELOW WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, A COUNCIL MEMBER OR PRESIDENT IN ATTENDANCE MAY REQUEST

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COUNCIL MEMBERS.

DO YOU WISH TO PULL ANY CONSENT ITEMS? STAFF? YES SIR.

ANGELA, DO WE HAVE YOU SPEAK A CAR'S FOR CONCERNS? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THEN TO APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS. PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

[ PUBLIC COMMENT: At this time, any person may address a matter within the jurisdiction of the City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the El Cajon Redevelopment Agency that is not on the Agenda. Comments relating to items on today’s docket are to be taken at the time the item is heard. State law prohibits discussion or action on items not on the Agenda; however, Council, Authority and Agency Members may briefly respond to statements or questions. An item may be placed on a future Agenda.]

COMMENTS RELATING TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA ARE TO BE TAKEN AT THE TIME THE IS HEARD.

STATE LAW PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

HOWEVER, CITY COUNCIL OR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND TO STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS AND AN ITEM MOVE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

ANGELA, DO YOU HAVE ANY CARDS THAT ARE PUBLIC COMMENT? YES SIR.

THEY HAVE TWO CARDS.

THE FIRST SPEAKER IS SOME YEAR CASEEN SIR, WELCOME.

STILL MAYOR, HONORABLE COUNCIL MEMBER.

TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO.

YOU APPROVED THE PROJECT FOR ME.

IT'S CALLED MAGNOLIA HEIGHT.

IT'S A SUBDIVISION OF 25 HOUSES SOUTH OF MAGNOLIA.

AFTER TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, WE WORKED VERY HARD TO GET THE FINAL APPROVAL FROM THE CITY.

A FEW DAYS AGO THEY SIGNED THE MINOR MILERS FOR ME.

I REQUESTED FROM THE CITY A SIMPLE REQUEST TO DELIVER WATER FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF MAGNOLIA AVENUE TO MY SITE.

AND THIS CITY STAFF REJECTED MY REQUEST.

UH, THE SITE I'M WORKING AT, IT'S ABOUT 600 FOOT WIDE AND ABOUT 750 FOOT LONG, 240 FLAT AND ABOUT 500 FOOT HALEY AREA AND ROCKY.

AND BY NO WAY I CAN DRIVE A WATER TRUCK I HAVE RIGHT NOW I KNOW ARTHUR WAGON.

I HAVE THERE TO COMPLETE THE JOB AND DO THE GRADING.

I HAVE TWO SERVICE ROADS IN EACH ROADS.

I HAVE WET UTILITIES AND DRY UTILITIES AND I AM GOING TO CUT MAGNOLIA HEIGHTS IN TWO OCCASION, UH, FROM SIDE TO THE SIDE.

AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, I AM GOING TO BUILD FOR THE SEWER LINE SEWER MANHOLE IN TWO PLACES.

I'M GOING TO CUT MAGNOLIA HEIGHT, MAGNOLIA AVENUE, I'M SORRY, IN A 12 BY 12 BY 12 TO PUT A MANHOLE FIVE FOOT WIDE AND 12 FEET DEEP.

I REQUESTED TO CUT MAGNOLIA AVENUE SIX INCHES WIDE AND SIX INCHES DEEP AND MY REQUEST IS REJECTED.

I ALWAYS UNDERSTAND THAT CITY STAFF WORK WITH THE DEVELOPER HAND BY HAND TO MAKE HIS PROJECT EASIER, NOT DIFFICULT.

BELIEVE ME, I CANNOT DO MORE THAN HALF OF THE PROJECT WITHOUT HAVING A HIGH PRESSURE WATER FROM HELIX WATER DISTRICT AND I CANNOT DRIVE A TRUCK THERE.

THAT'S WHY I CAME TO THE CITY COUNCIL HOPING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL WILL STUDY THIS MATTER AND HELP ME TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT BECAUSE TOMORROW WE'RE GOING TO BREAK THE GROUND.

I APPRECIATE YOUR UNDERSTANDING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR GIVING ME THE TIME TO SPEAK.

LET ME SEE ANY QUESTIONS, QUESTIONS, COUNSEL? THANK YOU SIR.

THANK YOU.

BONNIE PRICE.

GOOD AFTERNOON MAN.

COUNCIL.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR TAKING US ON A PRE OPENING TOUR OF THE MAGNOLIA EAST COUNTY PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.

AND AS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO DRAFTED A REPORT YEARS AGO ASKING FOR CERTAIN KINDS OF CONTENTS AND THE A THEATER.

I WAS PLEASED TO SEE THAT, THAT UH, THE CITY STAFF DID WHAT THEY DID.

THEY NOT ONLY GOT CUP HOLDERS ON THE ARMS OF THE CHAIRS AND THE THEATER,

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SO THAT SHOULD GIVE THE CITY A LEG UP ON ATTRACTING GOOD ENTERTAINMENT FOR THE PEOPLE.

SO I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU ABOUT THAT.

AND THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO BRING UP WAS I HEARD THAT THERE WAS NOT SUFFICIENT, UH, APPLICATION FOR PLANNING COMMISSIONER.

IS THAT STILL TRUE? I DON'T THINK SO.

OKAY.

WELL IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE APPLY, I WOULD SUGGEST YOU ADVERTISE AND MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE OF ALL KINDS CAN APPLY.

AND I THINK THE MEETING TIME IS DURING THE DAY.

IF YOU CHANGE IT TONIGHT, MAYBE IT GOT MORE APPLICANTS SO THE MEETING WILL BE TONIGHT.

THANK YOU.

NUMBER CARD, SIR.

THANKS .

ALL RIGHT.

THERE ARE NO WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

[9. Easement Summary Vacation at 512 Raleigh Avenue RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council: Opens the Public Hearing and receives testimony; Closes the Public Hearing; and Adopts the next Resolution, in order, to summarily vacate the 12-foot easement at 512 Raleigh Avenue.]

I HAVE NINE IS FOR AN EASEMENT SUMMARY VACATION AT FIVE 12 RALEIGH STREET AND STAFF.

WOULD YOU TELL US ABOUT THIS PLEASE? HI, GOOD AFTERNOON.

HUNTERVILLE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS? YES.

DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, THE CITY PROCESSES A 12 FLOOD EAST MENDEL FOR YOUR PROPERTY FOR A FREEWAY OFF RAMP AT 12 FIVE 12 RALLY AVENUE.

THIS EASTMAN HAD A CONDITION THAT A FREEWAY OFF FROM START CONSTRUCTION BY SEPTEMBER 1ST OF 1980 A FREEWAY OFF RAMP WAS NEVER CONSTRUCTED IN A FREEWAY OFF RAMP AT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS NO LONGER NEEDED.

THE VACATION OF THIS EASTMAN IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ELEMENTS OF THE GENERAL PLAN.

I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

UM, TO SPEAK CARDS ON THE SIDE.

HIM.

NO KITES, SIR.

THANKS VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU ALL.

THIS IS A HOUSEKEEPING ITEM.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH SOME LIGHT TO PROCEED WITH A MOTION? MAYBE WE NEED TO OPEN PUBLIC HEARING FIRST.

IS IT PUBLIC HEARING? EXCUSE ME.

WE HAVE .

ALL RIGHT.

OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE HAVE NO CARDS ON.

I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THEN TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

THAT'S GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY AND ACTION.

THERE'S THINKING.

ALRIGHT, COUNCIL, BACK TO YOU.

PO HOUSEKEEPING ITEM THAT ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION TO DISCUSS IT? ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION.

SECOND MOVE SECOND PLEASE.

VOTE.

YEAH.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE RIGHT THERE.

NO COMMISSIONER REPORTS TODAY.

ITEM IS MY ACTIVITIES REPORT IS AS REPORTED BY MISS.

I AM JUST MISSING EVERYTHING TODAY.

THAT'S WHAT EVERYBODY'S HERE FOR.

YEAH.

ROTATIONAL HOMELESS.

YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT'S RIGHT.

I FORGOT ABOUT THAT ONE BACK.

OKAY, HERE IT IS.

SORRY.

I APOLOGIZE.

[10. Rotational Night Homeless Shelter RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council discusses the findings of the report on rotational night shelter for homeless individuals and provides further direction, if any.]

I AM TED AS A REPORT ON THE ROTATIONAL NIGHT SHELTER, HOMELESS SHELTERS.

I'D LIKE TO ASK STAFF TO TELL US ABOUT THIS.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

IF CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

ACTUALLY.

UM, THE PURPOSE OF THIS AGENDA ITEM IS TO RESEARCH, UM, A QUESTION THAT THE COUNCIL POSED BACK IN MARCH, WHETHER IT WAS FEASIBLE OR PRACTICAL TO IMPLEMENT A ROTATIONAL NIGHT SHELTER.

UM, WE'VE DONE THAT RESEARCH AND PER COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, WE'RE COMING BACK TO THE COUNCIL WITH A RECOMMENDATION.

GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

UH, AS PART OF THIS RESEARCH, WE ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER A COMMITTEE OF SIX CITY EMPLOYEES, UH, THAT, THAT DID LOT OF RESEARCH.

UH, WE LOOKED AT LITERATURE, WE LOOKED AT SOME BEST CASES AND PRACTICES AROUND THE UNITED STATES.

UH, WHEN WE TALKED TO A LOT OF PEOPLE, IF I'M GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, BACK, WE TALKED TO 10 DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS.

WE TALKED TO ABOUT A DOZEN HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS AT WELLS PARK ON EAST MAIN STREET ON SECOND STREET AND ASKED LOTS OF QUESTIONS, TRY TO UNDERSTAND THEIR OPERATION, SHARED WITH THEM KIND OF SOME VISIONS THAT WE HAD OF, OF WHAT THIS COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE TO GET SOME IDEAS, THEIR THOUGHTS, THEIR COMMENTS.

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WE TOURED AND DEVELOP THE RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THAT.

IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO, UH, I'LL JUST CUT TO THE CHASE BASED ON ALL OF OUR RESEARCH STAFF DOES NOT RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY IMPLEMENT A ROTATIONAL NIGHT SHELTER.

AND, AND I SHOULD PROBABLY DEFINE WHAT THAT MEANS IN OUR MIND.

A ROTATIONAL SHELTER MEANS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT A PERMANENTLY FIXED SHELTER IS A SHELTER THAT WOULD MOVE, UM, PERIODICALLY, WHETHER THAT BE WEEKLY OR MONTHLY, THAT COULD VARY.

UM, AND, AND BY NIGHT, MEANING THAT IT WOULD ONLY BE OPEN FOR BEDTIME.

SO FOR SLEEPING PURPOSES, SO PROBABLY ABOUT SEVEN O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING IT WOULD OPEN UP AND THEN IT WOULD DEPOPULATE ABOUT SEVEN O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.

UM, SO, UH, I WANTED TO KIND OF WALK THROUGH SOME OF THE, THE REASONS WHY STAFF'S NOT RECOMMENDING MOVING FORWARD AT THIS TIME.

AND THERE'S KIND OF FOUR PRIMARY RATIONALE FOR RECOMMENDING AGAINST THIS TYPE OF A SHELTER.

IF CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

THE FIRST IS THAT NONE OF THE EXPERTS THAT WE TALKED TO SAID A ROTATIONAL SHELTERS, A GOOD IDEA.

UM, JUST THE LOGISTICS OF MOVING, UH, CONSTANTLY IS VERY COST PROHIBITIVE AND ALSO JUST TECHNICALLY DIFFICULT TO DO.

ONE OF THE SHELTERS OR ONE OF THE EXPERTS WE SPOKE TO OF COURSE WAS UM, INTERFAITH THAT DOES A ROTATIONAL SHELTER ON A VERY SMALL SCALE AND THEY SAID THE MAJORITY OF THE YEOMAN'S WORK IS THE MOVING OF THE FACILITY FROM ONE PLACE TO THE NEXT.

AND SO, UH, ON A LARGE SCALE THIS WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT, UM, ON AN ONGOING BASIS.

UM, THERE WAS ALSO A CONCERN THAT IN ORDER TO REALLY IDENTIFY THE EXACT RIGHT TYPE OF A VENUE OR VENUE, THERE'S CERTAIN AMENITIES THAT WOULD BE NEEDED AND TO FIND ENOUGH QUALIFIED SITES TO REALLY HAVE THAT BENEFIT OF THE ROTATION.

THERE'S A, THERE'S A LACK OF CONFIDENCE THAT THE CITY WOULD BE ABLE TO FIND ENOUGH OF THOSE SITES TO MAKE THAT DIFFERENCE.

AND THE OTHER IS JUST DISRUPTIVENESS.

UM, A LOT OF THE HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS WE SPOKE TO SAID A ROTATIONAL SHELTER WOULD BE VERY DISRUPTIVE.

THEY THE ARE AT A POINT IN THEIR LIFE WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF DISRUPTION, THERE'S A LOT OF CHAOS, HAS A LOT OF UNKNOWNS AND NOT KNOWING WHERE THE SHELTER IS WOULD CAUSE PROBLEMS. THE OTHER CONCERN, AND WE HEARD THIS FROM THE EXPERTS PRIMARILY FROM THOSE THAT ACTUALLY RUN FIX SHELTERS, THEY SAID THAT NEIGHBORHOODS WILL ALREADY BE UPSET AT YOU.

AND SO BY ROTATING IT, YOU'VE JUST NOW UPSET EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY.

SO, UM, FROM A, FROM A POLITICAL PERSPECTIVE, IT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER.

GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

SOME OF THE OTHER RATIONALE FOR OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THERE IS SOME MIXED THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS ABOUT WHETHER A NIGHT ONLY SHELTER MAKES SENSE.

IT ALL DEPENDS ON WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THE SHELTER IS.

IF IT'S JUST TO GET PEOPLE OFF THE STREET AT NIGHT, UH, AT NIGHT SHELTERS PROBABLY WOULD SUFFICE.

BUT IF THE GOAL IS TO WRAP AROUND SERVICES, TO ADDRESS MENTAL ILLNESS, TO ADDRESS SUBSTANCE ABUSE, TO FIND HOUSING NAVIGATION AND TO CONNECT PEOPLE JUST OPERATING AT NIGHT, WE, YOU'D NEVER BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.

IT HAS TO BE A DAY SHELTER OR A SHELTER RUN 24 HOURS A DAY BECAUSE THAT, THAT WRAPAROUND SERVICE WORK OCCURS DURING THE DAY AFTER, UH, FOLKS HAVE GONE EITHER OFF TO WORK, UM, OR HAVE LEFT THE SHELTER.

THOSE THAT STICK AROUND ARE THOSE THAT ARE, ARE THE ONES THAT ARE SEEKING HELP.

UH, WE ALSO LOOKED AT HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO RUN A FACILITY BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY VARIABLES.

AND, AND BECAUSE OUR RECOMMENDATION ALREADY WAS LOOKING LIKE IT WAS NOT GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT WE USED TO BE RECOMMENDING.

WE DID.

WE DID TAKE SORT OF A STAB AND WE LOOKED AT WHAT ALPHA PROJECTS COST IS.

UH, THEY, THEY SPEND ABOUT $44 PER PERSON.

GRANTED, THAT'S FOR A SHELTER OF OVER 300 INDIVIDUALS.

SO THEIR, UM, THEIR, UH, PER CAPITA COSTS COULD ACTUALLY BE LOWER BECAUSE THEY HAVE SOME ECONOMIES OF ECONOMIES OF SCALE.

UH, BUT IF YOU WERE TO JUST APPLY THAT $44 PER PERSON FOR A SHELTER OF A HUNDRED BEDS FOR A ONE YEAR PERIOD, THAT'S ONE POINT $6 MILLION.

THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY NOW.

NOW WE COULD MAKE AN ARGUMENT THAT MAY BE A HUNDRED BEDS IS IT NEEDED? MAYBE 25 BEDS IS MORE REALISTIC, BUT STILL YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED WITH RUNNING ANY TYPE OF A SHELTER, WHETHER IT BE ROTATIONAL OR NON ROTATIONAL.