Mar 12, 2024 City Council Meeting 3pm

WELL GREAT.

WE'LL HEAR FROM EVERYBODY AND THEN, UH, GO FROM THERE.

YEAH, SO I DON'T NEED NO MORE TIME, SO I'M GONNA LET THEM GO.

WHAT'S THAT? I SAID I THINK I'M DONE WITH MY TIME, SO I'LL LET THEM SPEAK UNLESS YOU OH.

WANTED TO TELL JOKES OR SOMETHING OR, OH, NO, NO , NO JOKES.

I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING.

ACROSS TAFT AVENUE BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, THREE STOP SIGNS FOR A HUNDRED HOUSES IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND EL CAJON IS RIDICULOUS BECAUSE WE HAVE STOPLIGHTS EVERYWHERE.

IT WAS GOOD SEEING YOU GUYS.

THANKS BARBARA ALIEN.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TODAY.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

SO, ALONG WITH BARBIE, I ALSO WANNA TALK ABOUT THE SPEED BUMPS AND, OR AT LEAST MAYBE NOT SPEED BUMPS PER SE, BUT MAYBE, UM, STOP SIGNS OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

BECAUSE IN TOTAL WE HAVE ABOUT A HUNDRED HOUSES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE ONLY HAVE THREE STOP SIGNS.

MIND YOU, THREE FOR A HUNDRED HOUSES.

AND THAT'S JUST NOT PROPORTIONALLY CORRECT.

UM, WE CONSTANTLY HAVE PEOPLE DOING DRAG RACES AT NIGHT IN OUR YARD.

I HAVE CONSISTENT VIDEO FOOTAGE OF THOSE THINGS AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S OKAY.

WE HAVE DONUTS WHO SPEED THROUGH BARBIE'S YARD OR, UM, WHO, PEOPLE WHO DO DONUTS IN OUR DIP AREA.

AND ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE THAT DIP AREA AND WE HAVE SIGNS FOR THAT.

BUT THE ACCIDENT THAT OCCURRED, PEOPLE CONSTANTLY DIP OUT AND THERE'S TWO OF THEM AND THERE'S ONLY A SIGN FOR ONE.

AND SO THE ACCIDENT THAT HAPPENED, THE DRIVER ENDED UP DIPPING AND CATCHING AIR AND DRIVING INTO SOMEONE ELSE'S NEIGHBORHOOD.

NOW, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE SPEED BUMPS WILL HELP THAT SITUATION, BUT IT'LL DEFINITELY HELP RECOGNIZE THE SLOWING DOWN PORTION

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WE LIVE IN A CITY.

AND I THINK THAT IMPLEMENTING STOP SIGNS OR SPEED BUMPS OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES TO, FOR DRIVERS TO SLOW DOWN WOULD BE SUPER IMPORTANT.

UM, I ALSO WANNA POINT OUT THAT LIKE IT'S A CONSISTENT PROBLEM ACROSS CALIFORNIA, RIGHT? LIKE WE ALL SPEED, WE ALL KNOW THAT.

HOWEVER, THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE PEOPLE HAVE CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.

LIKE THANKFULLY THERE WAS NOBODY HOME AT THE TIME OF THE ACCIDENT, BUT THERE HAS BEEN ACCIDENTS WHILE PEOPLE ARE HOME.

AND THAT HAS BEEN THE ISSUE THAT'S RISING OF THE SPEEDING.

BECAUSE IF THERE WAS NO SPEEDING, WE WOULDN'T HAVE AN ISSUE OF THIS.

SO CREATING A WAY THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT SLOWING DOWN DRIVERS IS SOME WAY TO STOP THAT.

YES.

NO, GO AHEAD.

CAN YOU CLARIFY BETWEEN WHAT CROSS STREETS ON TAFT, WHERE THE SPEEDING IS HAPPENING? UM, SO ULTIMATELY IT IS THROUGH TAFT IS CHASE.

I KNOW CHASE IS SOUTH OFF OF.

SO WE LIVE OFF OF WASHINGTON.

OFF OF WASHINGTON.

UM, WASHINGTON THROUGH RAYMOND, WHICH IS THE END OF THE STREET THAT CURVES ONTO, OR IT GOES TAFT CURVE, RAYMOND.

SO TAFT ENDS UP BEING A DEAD END ESSENTIALLY THE, IT CHANGES SIMILAR TO BALLANTINE AND AVOCADO.

GOT IT.

SO FROM WASHINGTON NORTH? YES.

OR WASHINGTON SOUTH AS WELL? YEAH, BETWEEN WASHINGTON AND BETWEEN WASHINGTON AND CHASE.

LAST SPEAKER IS JESSICA JOHNSON.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND THE DIPS AT, UM, PAULINE AND TAP, IT'S WHERE THE, WHEN IT'S WET, THEY HYDRO PLANE THROUGH THAT THING EVEN FASTER.

I CAN'T BELIEVE I HAVE TO DO THIS AGAIN AND AGAIN.

UM, SO ANGER IS A NORMAL HUMAN REACTION TO HARASSMENT, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S DONE ON PURPOSE TO TEST SOMEBODY FOR ANGER MANAGEMENT.

UM, SO I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO DETAILS 'CAUSE I ALREADY HAVE WITH CERTAIN LAW ENFORCEMENT, BUT, UM, THERE'S SOMETHING HAPPENING THIS WEEK.

THERE'S A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE GONNA BE OUT MESSING WITH PEOPLE TO MAKE THEM ANGRY TO GET THEIR REACTION ON CAMERA.

UM, I'VE REPORTED IT, BUT I CAN'T FIND THAT ANYWAY.

UM, THIS COLOR, THE SAME WOMEN, OH, SORRY, , THE SAME ONES THAT HAVE UM, UH, ASSAULTED ME IN THE PAST 10 YEARS.

SO PLANNED ON DOING THIS SINCE 1996 AND NO ONE WOULD LISTEN.

UM, THEY'RE OUT HARASSING PEOPLE TO GET THEIR REACTION ON CAMERA AND IT'S JUST I GIVE THEM THE REACTION THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, BY THE WAY, AND DROP THE F BOMB MOST OF THE TIME.

SO, HAVING SAID THAT, I'M NOT GONNA CRACK .

OWEN, THANKS FOR LISTENING.

THANKS BRENDA.

CAN'T WAIT FOR THE DANCES.

FORGIVE ME IN ADVANCE IF I GET EMOTIONAL.

UM, SO I'M THE ONE WHO HAD THREE, UH, OF MY VEHICLES GET CRASHED INTO, UH, DUE TO THE SPEEDING THAT HAPPENS ON TAFT AVENUE.

IT IS NOW THE SECOND TIME THAT A CAR HAS FLOWN INTO MY YARD DUE TO THE SPEEDING, UH, THE SPEED LIMIT ON OUR STREET IS 15 MILES PER HOUR.

NO ONE DRIVES THAT.

I'VE GOT TWO YOUNG KIDS WHO PLAY OUTSIDE WHO PLAY IN THE FRONT YARD.

AND FRIDAY I HAD A NIGHTMARE IMAGINING IF MY CHILDREN WOULD'VE BEEN PLAYING IN THE FRONT YARD WHEN THIS CAR DRIVING AT LEAST 60 OR 70 IN A 15 LAUNCHED OVER THIS DIP AND INTO MY YARD PUSHING MY CARS INTO THE GRASS WHERE MY KIDS NORMALLY PLAY.

SO FOR ANY PARENT, I'M SURE THAT IS LIKE TERRIFYING.

SO, UM, TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN IS REALLY SCARY.

AND FOR THERE TO BE ZERO CONSEQUENCES, NOT ONLY FOR THIS DRIVER, UM, BUT NOW I'M THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THIS DAMAGE 'CAUSE HE'S CHOSEN TO DISAPPEAR.

THAT'S NEITHER HERE NOR THERE.

BUT ANYWAYS, WE REALLY NEED SOME FORM OF SPEED CONTROL ON OUR STREET.

UM, I WANT MY KIDS TO BE ABLE TO PLAY OUT FRONT WITHOUT BEING SCARED THAT SOMEONE WHO IS DRIVING RECKLESSLY IS JUST GOING TO COME BARRELING DOWN THE STREET AND NOT SEE THEM.

UM,

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THE DIP DOES ONLY MAKE IT WORSE.

THE OTHER STREETS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE SPEED BUMPS.

I DON'T KNOW WHY WE CAN'T HAVE SPEED BUMPS ON OUR STREET.

UM, WE ALSO DON'T HAVE STREET LIGHTS.

THAT'D BE AMAZING IF WE COULD HAVE STREET LIGHTS ON OUR STREET AS WELL.

IT'S SO DARK THERE.

UM, BUT GENUINELY, I THINK ANYBODY WHO LIVES IN OUR AREA KNOWS THAT OUR STREET IS THE STREET THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE SPEED BUMPS.

SO THEY USE IT TO SPEED DOWN.

THEY USE IT TO GET OFF OF, UM, AVOCADO TO BE ABLE TO GO, YOU KNOW, AWAY FROM TRAFFIC.

AND AT NIGHT THE DRAG RACERS, THE YOUTH ARE JUST LIKE THERE SPEEDING DOWN THE STREET.

WE CAN HEAR THEM REVVING THEIR ENGINES AND NOTHING UNFORTUNATELY CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT HALF THE TIME.

UM, BUT SO FOR THIS TO HAPPEN NOW TWICE WITH ME ENDING UP WITH CARS IN MY YARD AND ME BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DAMAGE IS JUST REALLY FRUSTRATING.

SO I WOULD REALLY LOVE IF WE COULD HAVE SOME SORT OF RESOLUTION FOR US HOMEOWNERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE ABLE TO HAVE OUR KIDS BE SAFE, OUR PROPERTY BE SAFE, AND JUST NOT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS CONSTANT ISSUE AND NOT HAVING ANY ABILITY TO HAVE ANYTHING BE DONE ABOUT IT.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, ANYBODY ELSE ON THIS? NO OTHER CARD, SIR.

DO YOU HAVE ANY COUNSEL, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? NO, I MAYBE TO MR. CITY MANAGER GRAHAM, IS THERE ANYTHING, UM, WE CAN DO? I'M THE LAST SPEAKER SAID, UM, AND I'M LOOKING AT THE MAP.

IT LOOKS LIKE DRIVERS MAY BE USING AVOCADO OR, UH, TAFT AS A BYPASS FOR, FOR AVOCADO.

SO IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO, TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY AND HAVE SOME KIND OF CALMING MEASURES TO BEGIN THAT PROCESS? YEAH, WE'LL LOOK AT IT.

I I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE REALLY USING IT FOR AVOCADO BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, TAF TAF DOESN'T CONNECT WITH AVOCADO EXCEPT AT NETTE.

AND THEN THERE'S THESE SORT OF PAULINE AND RAYMOND THAT SORT OF DEAD END INTO CUL-DE-SACS HEADING TOWARD AVOCADOS.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S USED FOR A, UH, AS A SORT OF A CHEAT CHEAT STREET.

UM, WE'LL WE CAN DO SOME ANALYSIS.

I THINK ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS, IS AS YOU KNOW, STOP SIGNS CAN ONLY BE PUT IN PLACES WHERE THERE'S A A, A LEGITIMATE NEED FOR CONTROL OF TRAFFIC.

MM-HMM.

, IT'S NOT REALLY MEANT FOR A SPEED, UH, SLOWING DEVICE.

MM-HMM.

, UH, WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS, UH, TRAFFIC ON RANETTE THAT MAY WARRANT IT SO WE CAN RUN SOME ANALYSIS TO SEE IF THERE'S A NEED FOR STOP SIGNS AT TAF AND RANETTE.

THERE'S CURRENTLY STOP SIGNS, UH, ON RANETTE, BUT NOT ON TAFT.

SO WE COULD POTENTIALLY DO THAT.

THE CHALLENGE THOUGH IS IF PEOPLE ARE USING THE STREET ALREADY AND BREAKING THE LAW, DO STOP SIGNS REALLY STOP PEOPLE.

RIGHT.

UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE CASE.

WE'LL DO SOME ANALYSIS.

WE'LL LOOK AT SOME SPEED DATA, UM, AND THEN THERE IS A PROCESS BY WHICH RESIDENTS CAN ASK FOR SPEED HUMPS AND SO WE CAN, WE CAN STEER THEM IN THAT DIRECTION AS WELL.

AND BARBIE, MAKE SURE YOU KEEP IN TOUCH WITH ME.

I'M GONNA COME OUT AND I'D LOVE TO SEE THE STREET AND LOOK AT IT AND, UH, AND WE'LL MAKE SURE WE, WE COME TO SOME KIND OF A SOLUTION FOR IT.

WE BARBIE, I'D LIKE TO CALL BARBIE BATES BACK UP TO THE, TO THE PODIUM.

COME ON UP BARBIE.

SO WE ALL HAVE RINGS ON THE CORNER.

SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE SPEED, UM, THE VIDEO OF THIS GUY THIS LAST TIME AND, AND, AND YOU'RE GETTING THE LOCATION WRONG.

SO WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM IS THEY'RE COMING OFF OF WASHINGTON, GOING DOWN TAFT TO ABOUT, AND, AND NETTE COMES IN BETWEEN THE END OF 800 AND THE BEGINNING OF 900.

SO WHEN THEY CAME OUT ORIGINALLY AND MONITORED OUR STREET, THEY CAME IN THE WRONG WAY AREA.

UM, UM, THEY'RE, IT'S NOT, THE SPEEDERS ARE COMING OFF OF WASHINGTON ONTO TAFT AVENUE AND AND THE CORNER OF PAULINE AND TAFT IS WHERE THE DIP IS.

AND, AND THEY'RE NOT COMING FROM NETTE 'CAUSE THERE'S A STOP SIGN ON THE CORNER OF NETTE AND TAF.

SO YOUR, YOUR LOCATION'S INCORRECT OF WHERE IT IS.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY ON TAF THEN.

NO.

STOP SIGN.

ONLY, ONLY ON THE CORNER OF NETTE AND, AND TAF, WHEN YOU COME OFF OF, THERE'S A, THERE'S A, THERE'S A STOP SIGN THERE, BUT NOT AT PAUL.

BUT NOT AT PAULINE IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

BUT NOT ON PAULINE.

AND, UM, THEY SAID THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT A TH A THROUGH STREET, THEY WOULDN'T PUT ONE UP THERE.

ALL WE GOT WAS THE DIP SIGN ON THERE.

SO I'VE BEEN THERE FOR 20 YEARS AND I'VE TRIED TO GET, UM, STUFF GOING AND IT'S JUST GETTING WORSE.

COME INTO MY YARD, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'M RIGHT THERE.

AND, AND NOW, UM, SHE DIDN'T TELL YOU, BUT THE NIGHT THAT THAT GUY DID THAT, SHE WAS AROUND THE OTHER CORNER, THANK GOD.

BUT, UM, WE HAD ONE OF OUR OTHER NEIGHBORS WAS, UM, GETTING OUT OF HER CAR AND THIS GUY DARN NEAR SIDESWIPED HER AND THE POLICE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE, UM, YEAH, IT WAS ON HER PROPERTY WHERE IT ENDED UP.

AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S SO UNFAIR.

AND FOR, WE, WE'VE GOTTA DO SOMETHING THOUGH.

WE'VE, WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT CARS GOING INTO PEOPLE'S YARDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

NO.

AND I'M ON THE CORNER OF PAULINE AND TA I KEEP WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO

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THEY HIT THAT DIP AND IF THERE'S WATER THERE, IT'S, UM, IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA HAPPEN EVENTUALLY.

THANK YOU FOR CALLING ME BACK UP.

THANKS BARBIE.

UH, STEVE, GO.

I, I THINK THOSE SPEED TRAILERS ARE LIKE THE EASIEST THING TO THROW UP.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT, UM, A CURE, BUT IT DOES PROVIDE NOTICE TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEED.

THAT'S PROBABLY THE EASIEST THING WE COULD DO RIGHT AWAY.

CERTAINLY AS YOU SAID, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT OF THE LONG TERM SOLUTION, BUT IT CAN PROVIDE SOME IMMEDIATE RELIEF.

AND IN FACT, WE'RE GONNA DO, UM, I'LL JUST BRING THIS UP NOW.

I WAS GONNA BRING IT UP DURING THE, THE GOAL SETTING SESSION PORTION, BUT WE ACTUALLY DID SOME, WE'RE GONNA PRESENT TO THE CITY COUNCIL SOME INTERESTING DATA THAT WE GATHERED IN 2023.

UH, 'CAUSE WE PUT OUT SOME, A LOT OF SPEED TRAILERS AND WE COULD ACTUALLY NOTICE THE IMMEDIATE IMPACT OF THEM.

BUT AFTER A PERIOD OF TIME, ACTUALLY ACTUALLY A MATTER OF DAYS, THE EFFECTIVENESS GOES DOWN DRAMATICALLY EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE STILL THERE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE JUST USED TO THEM.

AND, AND THEY LOSE THAT, THAT, THAT, UH, SAVER.

SO, UM, WE'LL HAVE SOME DATA ABOUT THAT.

BUT CERTAINLY THE SPEED TRAILERS WOULD BE HELPFUL RIGHT NOW.

AND I THINK IT'D BE HELPFUL TO FOLLOW UP WITH THE PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THIS FORUM.

THEY TALKED ABOUT RING CAMERAS AND MAYBE THERE'S SOME EVIDENCE OF, OF SOME OF THESE PARTICIPANTS THAT THE POLICE CAN HELP WITH.

AND I THINK THERE'S SOME MORE DISCUSSION THAT COULD HAPPEN.

SURE.

UM, I KNOW BARBIE AND SHE SENT ME ONE OF THE RING CAMERA VIDEOS.

THIS GUY ACTUALLY GOT AIR, UM, HE HIT THE FIRST DIP.

YOU COULD SEE HIM BOTTOM OUT.

IT WAS AT SEVEN 30 AT NIGHT OR 7 45 SPARKS CAME OUT.

HE HIT THE SECOND DUMP OR SECOND DIP AND THEN TOOK AIR AND YOU COULD HEAR HIM CRASHING IN.

'CAUSE THE HOMEOWNER OF THAT PARTICULAR RING VIDEO CAME OUT.

WE HAD THE SAME PROBLEM AT MOISON AND BRADLEY.

THE TWO DIPS RIGHT THERE ARE WHERE THEY CATCH THEIR SPEED, THEY RUN THE STOP SIGN.

AND THAT'S ONE THING ABOUT THE STOP SIGN IS THEY DON'T STOP.

'CAUSE I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

THEY, IF THEY'RE GONNA RUN IT, THEY'RE GONNA RUN IT AND THEY'LL HIT THOSE DIPS AND THEN THEY CATCH AIR AND THEY RUN INTO THE CARS.

AND I KNOW THAT THEY'VE HIT SEVERAL CARS JUST NORTH OF BRADLEY.

SO I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF SOLUTION BECAUSE, UM, THEY HAVE SEVERAL VIDEOS AND I'M SURE THAT THEY'D BE MORE THAN WILLING.

DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I WAS JUST GONNA SAY YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE VIDEO.

I HAVE IT.

I'LL, I'LL CONNECT.

YEAH, I WANT SEE IT ANYWAY.

I THINK WE JUST NEED TO TAKE A HARD LOOK AT THIS AND I'LL, I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

THE PROBLEM IS, IS IN CALIFORNIA, THERE ARE VERY FEW REMEDIES TO FORCE PEOPLE TO DO WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO DO.

WELL LET'S GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND, UM, WE'LL, UM, SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

THERE'S A YOUNG LADY IN THE BACK, UM, GO AHEAD AND COME UP AND SPEAK, BUT AFTERWARDS, WOULD YOU MIND GIVING YOUR INFORMATION TO THE CITY CLERK SO SHE CAN HI.

HELLO.

PARDON ME FOR SPEAKING OUT OF LINE.

JUST ONE SECOND PLEASE.

UH, JUST TO REMIND YOU, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU CAN TAKE ACTION ON AND TALK ABOUT TAKING ACTION ON.

SO JUST RECEIVE THE INFORMATION AND THE CITY MANAGER WILL IS LISTENING.

I'M SURE.

SO, HI, GO AHEAD AGAIN.

PARDON ME FOR SPEAKING OUT OF LINE.

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY THERE IS STILL HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS POSTED UP IN TENTS ON OUR BEAUTIFUL CORNERS.

FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS ABOUT THREE OR FOUR TENTS IN THE VANS PARKING LOT ACROSS FROM A CHURCH ACROSS FROM ST.

PAUL'S.

AND IT'S DISHEARTENING.

IS THERE A HOT TEAM AVAILABLE THROUGH THE CITY OF EL CAJON? UH, I'LL GO AHEAD AND LET YOU FINISH AND THEN I'LL ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

I, I FINISHED, I JUST WANNA KNOW IF THERE'S A HOT TEAM AVAILABLE THAT COULD BE COLLECTING UP THESE HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS AND PLACING THEM WHERE THEY NEED TO OR SPEAKING WITH GAVIN ON HOW TO GET THE HOMELESS OFF OF OUR BEAUTIFUL STREETS.

YEAH, JUST, JUST TO PUT IN PERSPECTIVE, UM, I, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL LIKE, UM, WE DON'T REALIZE THAT THERE'S HOMELESS PEOPLE AROUND.

AND BELIEVE ME, WE'RE MOST OF OUR BANDWIDTH GOES TO DEALING WITH THE HOMELESS PROBLEM, WHICH FRANKLY WAS CREATED BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND KIND OF THRUST UPON US.

WE'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH IT.

UM, WE DON'T ALLOW CAMPING ON THE STREETS, BUT THEY, THEY POP UP AND SOMETIMES IT TAKES A WHILE TO CATCH UP WITH EVERYBODY AND, AND SHUT DOWN THEIR ENCAMPMENTS.

UH, WE KNOW IT'S A HUGE PROBLEM AND WE DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO HELP PEOPLE GET OFF THE STREETS.

WE PROBABLY SPEND MORE PER CAPITA ON HOMELESSNESS THAN ANY OF THE CITY IN THE REGION.

AND A LOT OF THAT'S WHAT OUR COOPERATION WITH, UH, EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER, WHO DOES A GREAT JOB AT HELPING ANY PEOPLE GET OFF THE STREETS AND GET REHABILITATED.

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THEY, CALIFORNIA ACCEPTS HOMELESSNESS AS A VIABLE LIFESTYLE.

AND YOU, YOU CAN'T ARREST PEOPLE FOR THEM OR FOR BEING HOMELESS OR USE ANY OF THE OLD REMEDIES THAT, THAT CITIES USED TO DO TO KIND OF KEEP PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS THROUGH VACANCY LAWS.

SO I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE EXCUSES.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT EVERY, EVERY COMMUNITY IN CALIFORNIA HAS TO DEAL WITH.

SOME DON'T WANNA DEAL WITH IT.

SOME ARE TRYING REALLY HARD, BUT IT'S, CALIFORNIA'S A UNIQUE PLACE IN THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.

AND SO WE'RE DOING OUR BEST.

I UNDERSTAND ALSO, YOU HAD POSTED THAT INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO STAND ON THE CORNERS WITH BEGGING SIGNS FOR MONEY OR FOR WORK OR FOOD.

I STILL CONTINUE TO DRIVE AROUND EL CAJON, WHICH IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL CITY.

AND IT'S HEARTENING BECAUSE AT EVERY CORNER, AT LEAST EVERY OTHER CORNER, I AM SEEING THEM BEGGING WHEN WE HAVE THE HUMAN RESOURCES RIGHT THERE ON LEXINGTON.

AND FIRST, THAT IS OBVIOUSLY NOT HELPING.

NO, I AND IT'S THE SAME SONG AND DANCE FOR SINCE I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL, THAT YOU YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT GO IN THE MEDIANS.

THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO.

WE, THE, THE DIFFICULTY IS WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ARREST THEM ALL.

ALL WE CAN DO IS, IS ASK THEM TO LEAVE.

IF THEY GO BACK TIME AND TIME AGAIN, WE CAN GIVE 'EM THE TICKET.

BUT THAT'S, THAT'S AS MUCH AS THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA WILL LET US DO.

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT.

I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

SURE.

I, WHAT IS THE STATUS ON THE PROPERTY WHERE THE OLD COCO'S USED TO BE BEHIND MCDONALD'S? BECAUSE I'VE HAD AN IDEA AND A VISION ABOUT COLLECTING UP THE HOMELESS AND PLACING THEM IN LIKE AN ALPHA PROJECT.

YEAH, THAT'S A, SO THAT THEY WON'T BE ON OUR STREET.

THAT'S A PRIVATE, IT'S A PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT, THAT, THAT IS BEING, UM, DEVELOPED RIGHT NOW FOR ANOTHER PURPOSE.

BUT YEAH, IT, WE'VE GOT, WELL I HOPE YOU CAN GET THE HOMELESS UNDER CONTROL 'CAUSE THERE SHOULD NOT BE TENTS POSTED UP ON OUR MAIN STREETS.

I KNOW, I AGREE WITH YOU AND I AND I DON'T KNOW WHY THE GOVERNOR IS ALLOWING THIS THROUGHOUT ALL OF CALIFORNIA.

IT'S DISHEARTENING AND I WILL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME MR. WELLS.

THERE'S, THERE'S ONE OTHER ISSUE HERE.

CARRY ONE OF THE BRACELET VAN AND YES.

OH, THANK YOU.

UH, AND THAT'S THAT THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO IS IMPORTING HOMELESS PEOPLE INTO OUR MOTELS.

AND ANY GIVEN TIME IT MIGHT BE A HUNDRED AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY DO SOMETHING, GET KICKED OUT, THEY'RE PUT ON THE CURB AND THEN THEY STAY IN EL CAJON.

SO THAT'S NOT HOW THEY TAKE 'EM FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTY.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND THEN WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL, SAY A SINGLE WOMAN, MAYBE EITHER, EITHER A SINGLE WOMAN WITH NO CHILDREN OR A SINGLE MOTHER WITH CHILDREN CALLS 2 1 1 TO GET HELP TO GET A HOTEL ROOM, THERE IS NONE AVAILABLE.

BUT YET OVER THERE ON MAGNOLIA AT THE MOTEL SIX, THERE WAS SOME BAD INCIDENCES BECAUSE 2 1 1 ALLOWED DRUG DEALERS TO GO INTO MOTEL SIX.

BUT I PROMISE YOU, I HAVE SPOKE WITH MANY WOMEN OVER TWO HANDFULS AND THERE IS NO HELP FOR CALLING 2 1 1 LIKE NONE.

ABSOLUTELY NONE.

IT IS SO HEARTENING THAT I JUST WANNA SCREAM AT TIMES.

OKAY, WELL I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING.

SO, SO HOW, HOW ARE WE GONNA FIX THIS? I DON'T KNOW.

UNLESS WE CAN CHANGE OUR STATE LEGISLATURE.

YEAH, AND I WAS GONNA SAY, UNLESS STATE LAW CHANGES, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE A CHANGE.

AND SO OUR STATE LEGISLATURES AND THE GOVERNOR, AS YOU SAID, ARE THE, IS THE BODY THAT'S GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE A NOTICEABLE DIFFERENCE.

UM, SO THERE'S A HANDFUL OF LAWS THAT ARE COMING UP POTENTIALLY ON THE BOOKS IN NOVEMBER TO VOTE ON.

UM, I WOULD, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO, TO LOOK AT THAT AND ONE CAN MAKE A VERY LARGE DIFFERENCE.

I I DO HAVE A SUGGESTION.

WHAT DISTRICT DO YOU LIVE IN? DO YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT PART OF THE TOWN DO YOU LIVE IN? I'M ACTUALLY IN CASA DE ORO CASA.

ONE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

WELL, I, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO MAKE A A, AN APPOINTMENT WITH MYSELF OR ANYBODY ON THE COUNCIL YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH.

AND LET'S GO TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A CUP OF COFFEE.

'CAUSE IT'S A, IT'S A LONG, COMPLICATED, UH, PROCESS THAT PROBABLY DESERVES 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR OF DISCUSSION TIME.

I WOULD LOVE YOUR TIME.

WOULD I BE ABLE TO CALL YOUR OFFICE? SURE.

IF, IF YOU, UM, LEAVE YOUR NUMBER OVER HERE WITH OUR CITY CLERK, I'LL, I'LL GET A HOLD OF YOU AND WE'LL GIVE YOU A WE'LL WE CAN MEET FOR COFFEE.

MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, UM, ANYBODY CAN DOWNLOAD THE EL CAJON APP.

AND WE DO HAVE A

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HOMELESS OUTREACH TEAM.

GOOD POINT.

SO AS PEOPLE LET US KNOW, THEN WE CAN PUT ATTENTION TO THAT.

AND AS WAS COMMENTED BY THE COUNCIL, I MEAN, WE DO GO OUT AND, BUT IT IS, WE JUST SORT OF MOVE PEOPLE AROUND BECAUSE THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR US TO REQUIRE PEOPLE TO GO INTO A SHELTER.

UM, BUT WHEN WE HAVE THAT DATA, IT DOES HELP US MAKE GOOD INFORMED DECISIONS.

SO WE APPRECIATE WHEN RESIDENTS DO LET US KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

YEAH, IT DOES.

EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND WHAT HE, HE JUST SAID THERE'S A APP CALLED MY EL CAJON.

IT'S, IT REALLY WORKS VERY WELL FOR REPORTING A POTHOLE, GRAFFITI, SOMEBODY STANDING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD A AN ENCAMPMENT THAT'S GROWING.

UH, WE, WE ACTUALLY APPRECIATE IT WHEN YOU LET US KNOW, SO THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY MORE SPEAKERS? NO, THERE ARE SPEAKERS, SIR.

OKAY, GREAT.

THEN.

SO THERE ARE NO WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS AND NO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

WE HAVE

[11. City Council Action Plan (2024) RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council reviews the draft City Council Action Plan, provides feedback, and approves the document.]

ITEM 11 IS A REPORT ON THE CITY COUNCIL ACTION PLAN.

AND I'LL ASK OUR CITY CLERK TO TELL US ABOUT THIS.

ACTUALLY, MR. MAYOR, I GET TO REPORT ON THIS, SO UNLESS ANGELA WANTS TO.

NO THANK YOU.

COUNCIL AND THEN WE CAN START IMPLEMENTING THEM PROBABLY TOWARDS THE BEGINNING OF 2025.

UM, SO BACK ON JANUARY 23RD, THE CITY COUNCIL HELD ITS ANNUAL GOAL SETTING WORKSHOP IN WHERE IN WHICH IT IDENTIFIES ITS PRIORITIES THAT IT WANTS TO FOCUS ON IN THE UPCOMING YEAR.

UH, AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, THE CITY COUNCIL SORT OF TOOK THOSE AND HELPS STAFF, UH, UNDERSTAND ITS ITS TOP PRIORITIES AND GAVE STAFF A LITTLE BIT MORE FEEDBACK AND CLARIFICATION ON SOME OF THOSE GOALS.

WE TOOK ALL THAT INFORMATION AND WE HAVE, WE'VE DEVELOPED, UH, THE, THE, THE DRAFT CITY COUNCIL ACTION PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES THE FOLLOWING SIX PRIORITIES, CITY BEAUTIFICATION, CITY INFRASTRUCTURE, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOMELESSNESS, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND THEN, UH, A SLEW OF MISCELLANEOUS GOALS.

UM, AS PART OF THE CITY COUNCIL ACTION PLAN, WHICH IS ATTACHED AS PART OF YOUR STAFF REPORT, IT INC IT IDENTIFIES UNDER EACH OF THE PRIORITIES A GOAL OR OUTCOME, THE SPECIFIC DEPARTMENT THAT'S ASSIGNED TO ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL.

SOME OF THE MAJOR TASKS OR MILESTONES TO HELP KEEP US ON TRACK OF WHAT NEEDS TO OCCUR TO MAKE THAT GOAL A REALITY.

AND THEN SOME TARGET DATES.

AND SO WE'RE PRESENTING THAT, UH, THIS AFTERNOON FOR CITY COUNCIL FEEDBACK AND HOPEFULLY EVENTUAL, UH, APPROVAL.

UM, WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH EACH, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH EACH INDIVIDUAL TASK, UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO, BY PRIORITY LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT, UM, GOALS FOR THEM AND TO SEE IF THE CITY COUNCIL HAD ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OR FEEDBACK ON THEM.

IN TERMS OF THE CITY BEAUTIFICATION AND IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, THERE'S ABOUT 13 DIFFERENT PROJECTS.

A LOT OF THEM ARE ARPA FUNDED.

SO THIS IS A PRIORITY.

THESE, THESE PROJECTS HAVE TO BE FINISHED UP IN THE NEXT YEAR, UM, WITH, WITH CONTRACTS LET OUT AT LEAST BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR.

SO A LOT OF WORK IS COMING TO ACCU ACCUMULATION THERE.

UM, ONE OF THE OTHER GOALS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAD IS, UM, LETTING THE RESIDENTS KNOW WHEN WE'RE DOING BIG PROJECTS AND THAT THEIR TAX DOLLARS ARE AT WORK.

AND SO WE ARE ADDING THAT TO OUR BIDDING LANGUAGE.

SO THAT'S A REALLY EASY ONE THAT WE'LL HAVE THAT ACCOMPLISHED RELATIVELY SOON.

UH, THE LANDSCAPE AWARDS ARE UNDERWAY.

UH, THE WEBSITE IS OUT.

WE'RE CURRENTLY MARKETING THAT PROGRAM, ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO SUBMIT THEIR BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPES TO THE CITY.

UM, AND THEN, UH, I'LL JUST MOVE TO THE, THE MURAL PROJECT.

IT IS A GRANT FUNDED PROJECT AND WE'RE CLOSE TO LETTING A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS OUT TO THE PUBLIC ON THAT SOON.

SO THAT'S KIND OF, UM, CITY BEAUTIFICATION.

ARE THERE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL TASKS OR THE TIMELINES THAT STAFF LAID OUT AS PART OF THIS PRIORITY? OKAY.

SEE NONE.

MOVING ON.

CITY INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL HAD ASKED FOR IS SORT OF A, A BIGGER, A HIGH LEVEL DISCUSSION ABOUT WHERE ARE WE AT WITH DEFERRED MAINTENANCE.

ARE WE, ARE WE KEEPING TRACK OUR UPDATE WITH ALL OF OUR BUILDING MAINTENANCE AND OUR OTHER TYPES OF, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS? WE'RE GETTING READY WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH TO PRESENT THAT ANALYSIS TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

UM, WE'RE ALSO WORKING TO UPDATE OUR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PRO, UH, PROGRAM WHERE WE'LL GO OUT AND CAMERA EVERY SINGLE STREET AND GET A NEW, UH, PCI AND THEN WE'LL PRESENT SOME DATA TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON WHERE WE'RE AT AND HOW WE COMPARE WITH OUR NEIGHBORS AND, AND AS WE INVEST SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF MONEY IN THE UPCOMING YEARS, WHAT THAT SHOULD DO TO OUR, OUR PAVEMENT, UM, OUR PAVEMENT INDEX.

AND THEN, UM, LASTLY IS WE ARE HOPING TO, TO ALLOCATE MONEY IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET UP TO $2 MILLION FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT.

SO YOU'LL BE SEEING THAT AS PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.

AND THEN BY SEPTEMBER, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE THOSE PROJECTS IDENTIFIED FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.

AND WE, WE MAY ACTUALLY HAVE MORE THAN WE HAVE MONEY FOR, BUT WE'LL GET SOME PRIORITIES FROM THE CITY

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ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CITY INFRASTRUCTURE? PHIL HAS ONE.

UH, JUST TO CLARIFY, UM, IN THE STAFF REPORT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, THE GOAL IS TO INTEGRATE SOME OF THOSE INTO OUR BUDGET, BUT THEN ALSO ON TOP OF THAT DIP INTO GENERAL FUND RESERVE.

IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? PROBABLY WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD SHIFT MONEY OUT OF GENERAL FUND RESERVES INTO THE CAP.

THE CIP THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT YES.

UH, BUDGET.

SO THEN WE'D HAVE MONEY IN THERE TO GET THOSE DONE.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS HOPING FOR IS INSTEAD OF TRYING TO WORK IT INTO THE BUDGET, LET'S DO A ONE TIME.

YES.

GREAT.

THAT WOULD BE INTENT.

GREAT.

UM, IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON HERE.

THERE'S, WE HAVE SEVEN GOALS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL IDENTIFIED.

UH, AS YOU KNOW, THE PARKWAY PLAZA ANALYSIS IS WELL UNDERWAY.

UH, THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND I HAVE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS WITH THE CONSULTANT.

UH, WE'VE BEEN ENGAGED WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

WE KNOW THAT THE CONSULTANT ALSO HAS BEEN ENGAGED WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS.

WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE AT LEAST SOME ROUGHED ROUGH DATA FROM THEM IN MARCH FOR THE, FOR A STAFF LEVEL VIEW.

AND THEN BY MIDSUMMER, SOMETHING FOR PUBLIC CONSUMPTION AND INCLUDING A CITY COUNCIL PRESENTATION.

UM, WE'VE ALREADY LAUNCHED THE SIGN AND FACADE IMPROVEMENT GRANT PROGRAM, UH, THROUGH A LOT OF DIFFERENT MECHANISMS. UH, WE'VE, THE, THE DOWNTOWN PROJECT IS MORE OF A LONG-TERM ENVISIONING PROJECT, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO KIND OF KEEP ON, UM, OUR MINDSET.

UH, MR. DIMAGGIO HAS BEEN IN TOUCH WITH OUR CONSULTANT THAT'S HANDLING THE SURPLUS LANDS ACT.

AND SO THAT ANALYSIS IS CURRENTLY UNDERWAY.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE ENGAGED WITH SAN DIEGO STATE STUDENTS, UH, IN THE MASTER'S PROGRAM.

THEY'RE DOING SOME ANALYSIS OF OUR DEVELOPMENT PERMIT EXPERIENCE, LOOKING AT HOW OUR PERMIT, UH, EXPERIENCE FLOWS OR COMPARES WITH OTHER CITIES.

AND THEY'RE DOING SOME, SOME CUSTOMER SERVICE ANALYSIS AND SURVEYS TO SEE ARE THERE ARE AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT.

SO WE SHOULD HAVE THAT REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL BEFORE THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.

UM, THE EAST COUNTY MARKET NIGHTS, THE RFP HAS BEEN LET OUT AND IN FACT, THE COUNCIL JUST REJECTED A, ONE OF THE BIDS DURING CONSENT WE'RE, WE'RE RE-PUTTING OUT THE RFP DEPENDING ON IF THERE IS A COST OR HOW MUCH THAT COST IS AND WHERE WE'RE AT BUDGET WISE.

THIS MAY BE ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS THAT GOES ON HOLD FOR A WHILE, AS WELL AS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.

AND THEN, UH, MR. DIMAGGIO IS WORKING WITH THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERS IN IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THE P BID FINDINGS.

AND I THINK IN THE NEXT MONTH WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE A REPORT ON, ON WHAT'S, WHAT'S BEING IMPLEMENTED, WHAT'S ON HOLD, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE STRUGGLES IN IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THOSE, UH, GOALS.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ABOUT THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRIORITIES? APPARENTLY NOT.

AND THAT THE SUCCESS OF THAT PROGRAM HAS SPAWNED FOUR OTHER CHURCHES IN EL CAJON WHO ARE INTERESTED IN DOING EITHER THAT PROJECT OR MORE PERMANENT HOUSING FOR SENIORS AND LOW INCOME PEOPLE.

IN TERMS OF HOMELESSNESS, UH, THERE'S REALLY KIND OF TWO BIG ONES.

I'LL START WITH THE, THE SECOND ONE THAT'S LISTED.

AND THAT'S KIND OF DOING WHAT WE CONTINUE TO DO IS PROMOTING ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING, NOT ONLY TO THOSE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, BUT ALSO THOSE THAT ARE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE QUESTIONS.

AND, UH, AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY COUNCIL, YOU SPENT PROBABLY MORE TIME THAN ANY COUNCIL IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY FOCUSING ON THIS WITH THE, THE MYRIAD OF TOWN HALL MEETINGS THAT YOU RAN.

I, I HAVE NOT HEARD OF ANY OTHER CITY COUNCIL THAT HAS DONE THAT IN THE WAY THAT YOU DID THAT.

SO, KIND OF HATS OFF, I THINK IN PEOPLE ARE PAYING ATTENTION, THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO GET A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THE HOMELESS REALM.

AND THEN THE COUNCIL ALSO DIRECTED US TO CONSIDER ANOTHER DOCUMENTARY SIMILAR TO THE ONE WE DID LAST YEAR, WHICH WAS FOCUSED ON MORE ON THE LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE.

AND BY THE WAY, I'D ENCOURAGE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE TO WATCH THAT DOCUMENTARY.

UM, IT'S FOUND ON OUR WEBSITE OR ANY OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIAS.

THIS DOCUMENTARY IS A PRETTY HEAVY LIFT.

AND, UM, THIS WILL TAKE A LOT OF TIME.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A, A DEADLINE TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR.

UM, THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER CONFLICTING ISSUES AND WE'LL, WE WILL TALK INDIVIDUALLY WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ABOUT SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE WITH, WITH PUTTING TOGETHER SUCH A DOCUMENTARY WITH THE TIMING.

SO IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT MAKES MORE SENSE MOVING INTO NEXT YEAR.

ANY CONCERNS, COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, FEEDBACK ABOUT THE HOMELESS PRIORITIES? OKAY, I'VE, I'VE GOT ONE.

SO I TALKED WITH, UH, AMICUS YESTERDAY AND PASTOR SLADE FROM MERIDIAN.

UH, THE SUCCESS OF THE MERIDIAN PROJECT HAS SEEN 32 PEOPLE GO THROUGH THAT PROJECT IN A YEAR IN THE SIX CABINS, 19 WOMEN, 13 CHILDREN OF THE 19 WOMEN, 13 WOMEN WENT ON TO MORE PERMANENT HOUSING.

SIX, UH, DID NOT MAKE IT THROUGH THE PROGRAM FOR VARIOUS REASONS.

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SO, TO OUR EARLIER COMMENTS ABOUT HOMELESSNESS, WHAT ARE WE DOING? WE'RE, YES, WE'RE, WE'RE FRUSTRATED BY STATE LAW, BUT WE ARE ALSO DOING THINGS WHICH ARE WORKING, HOPEFULLY OTHER PLACES IN THE COUNTY PICK UP ON IT.

I APPRECIATE IT, MR. THAT WOULD BE A GOOD TOPIC FOR THE DOCUMENTARY.

ABSO ABSOLUTELY ONE, ONE OF THE, UM, AND MR. GOEBBELS AWARE OF THIS, BUT PASTOR SLADE IS THE ONE THAT'S SORT OF PUTTING OUT THE IDEA TO OTHER CHURCHES.

AND HE SENT ME LAST NIGHT A LIST OF CHURCHES, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY GONNA DO A MEETING WITH ALL OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME AND KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHAT'S WORKING AT MERIDIAN, WHAT'S NOT WORKING AT MERIDIAN, HOW DOES, DOES THEIR PROPERTY EVEN QUALIFY UNDER THE EMERGENCY OR THE, THE TEMPORARY ORDINANCE? SO, WE'LL, WE'LL KIND OF DIVE INTO THAT WITH THEM.

BUT THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE COUNCIL DID, AS YOU RECALL, IS THAT ORDINANCE WAS MEANT TO BE A MODEL FOR OTHER CITIES IN THE COUNTY.

AND IT'S INTERESTING, I'LL, AND THIS IS, THIS IS A, THIS IS A PAT ON THIS CITY COUNCIL'S BACK, BUT ALSO MAYBE, UM, A CALL TO ACTION FOR THE OTHER CITIES.

NO OTHER CITIES HAVE TAKEN THIS ORDINANCE.

AND WE, WE'VE PROSELYTIZED IT, WE HAVE PUT IT OUT THERE, AND IT'S INTERESTING TO HEAR THAT PEOPLE WANT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT HOMELESSNESS, BUT ONE OF THE EASIEST THINGS THEY COULD DO IS A TEMPORARY REZONING LIKE THE CITY OF EL CAJON DID.

AND NO ONE HAS TAKEN US UP ON THAT OFFER.

SO, UM, A LITTLE DISAPPOINTING.

BUT I THINK, UH, AS MR. GOBEL SAID, WE CONTINUE TO BE A LEADER IN THIS AREA AND I'M, I'M REALLY PROUD TO BE PART OF THIS ORGANIZATION THAT DOES TAKE LEADERSHIP IN ON THE AREA OF HOMELESSNESS.

UM, IN TERMS OF PUBLIC SAFETY, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING IS IMPLEMENTING THE DIRECTION FROM THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE, THAT WAS FROM THE MEDIC OR THE FIRE, UM, COVERAGE STUDY.

AND JUST, THIS IS A DRAFT, THIS IS JUST TO TELL, YOU KNOW, THE, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON WITH THIS.

SO THERE'S A FLOW CHART.

WE HAVE STAFFING ISSUES, EQUIPMENT ISSUES, FUNDING ISSUES, BUT THE GOAL IS TO GET ENGINE 2 0 8 INTO SERVICE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

AND SO WE'RE PER CURRENTLY PUTTING TOGETHER ALL THE HEADS AT CITY HALL TO IDENTIFY ALL THE DIFFERENT TASKS THAT ARE RELATED TO THAT.

AND BY THE WAY, THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, MULTIPLE SPREADSHEETS BEHIND THIS THAT IDENTIFY ALL THE DIFFERENT TASKS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN WITH A CALENDAR AND TIMELINE.

SO THERE IS A LOT HAPPENING.

THAT BACK ROW OF OUR EXECUTIVE TEAM IS ALL HANDS ON DECK WORKING ON THIS RIGHT NOW.

UM, THE OTHER GOAL THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ESTABLISHED WAS CURBING EXCESSIVE SPEEDS.

AS I PREVIEWED DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT, UH, COUNT, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAD SOME PRETTY INTERESTING DATA COLLECTED IN 2 20 23.

UH, WE HOPE TO PRESENT THAT IN THE NEXT, UM, MONTH OR SO, OR AT LEAST BY MAY, ABOUT SOME OF THE SUCCESS THAT THEY'VE HAD AND SOME AREAS THAT WE'RE SEEING SOME IMPROVEMENT ON.

UM, AND MAYBE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO BUILD ON THAT.

AND THEN THERE'S SOME OTHER GOALS RELATED TO, UH, DOING SOME MORE PUBLIC EDUCATION.

AND THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY, UH, REALLY ENGINEERING SOLUTIONS ARE THE ONLY LONG-TERM SOLUTION UNLESS WE HAVE A POLICE OFFICER ON EVERY STREET CORNER 24 HOURS A DAY, WHICH WE KNOW IS JUST FINANCIALLY NOT FEASIBLE.

UM, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PUBLIC SAFETY GOALS? ALRIGHT, LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS THE MISCELLANEOUS.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE VETERANS MEMORIAL HAS BEEN, UH, ON YOUR, ON YOUR RADAR FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.

WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO RELEASING A, A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS.

UH, WE HAVE THE LOCATION IDENTIFIED.

WE WANNA THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR ALL OF THEIR FEEDBACK AND INPUT ON THIS.

BUT, UH, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD ON THAT.

AND THAT'S REALLY OF THE MISCELLANEOUS GOALS.

THE, THEN OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OF THOSE THREE BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY STARTED.

THE SHORT TERM RENTALS AND THE PLANNING STUDY FOR EAST, UH, MAIN STREET ARE LONGER TERM GOALS.

AND IN FACT, THE EAST, THE EAST MAIN STREET PROJECT, THAT'S A, THAT'S A $400,000, UH, STUDY TICKET OVER A MULTI-YEAR, YEAR PERIOD.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULDN'T START IT, BUT I'D LIKE TO GET SOME, SOME OF THE STUFF THAT WE ARE ALREADY CHEWING ON DIGESTED BEFORE WE START CHEWING ON A REALLY BIG BITE LIKE THAT.

SO THAT'S PUSHED OFF A LITTLE BIT LATER INTO THE CALENDAR YEAR.

UM, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL START THINKING THAT THROUGH A LITTLE BIT MORE.

ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THE MISCELLANEOUS GOALS? UM, THE LAST THING, THE STAFF REPORT IDENTIFIED THREE, THREE QUESTIONS THAT WE KINDA LEFT, STAFF LEFT SCRATCHING OUR HEADS A LITTLE BIT FROM THE GOAL SETTING SESSION.

EITHER WE WEREN'T QUITE SURE WHAT WAS INTENDED BY THE COUNCIL OR WHAT WAS COMMUNICATED BY THE COUNCIL, IF THERE WAS REALLY, UH, CONSENSUS ON THOSE ITEMS OR IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANNA MOVE ON OR GET SOME ADDITIONAL DIRECTION.

SO ONE WAS WHETHER TO CONSIDER PURSUING A CITY LOBBYIST THAT'S BEEN

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ON THE, ON THE TO-DO LIST FOR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, UM, WHETHER TO HOST A FINANCIAL LITERACY COMMUNITY WORKSHOP, AND THEN THE CONCEPT OF SEEKING TECHNOLOGY SOLUTIONS FOR CITY BEAUTIFICATION.

SO WITH THAT, STAFF'S HERE TO TAKE ANY FEEDBACK THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

IF I WERE TO OFFER SOMETHING, I THINK WE HAVE A LOT ON THE PLATE, SO IF THERE'S A BURNING NEED, I'D RECOMMEND WE LEAVE THESE OFF FOR THE TIME BEING.

BUT, UM, BUT IF COUNCIL HAS SOME CONSENSUS AROUND THESE, WE CAN ADD THEM INTO THE, INTO THE LIST.

SO WITH THAT, UM, STAFF'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE, TAKE ANY FEEDBACK, AND THEN ULTIMATELY CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THESE, UH, OF THE, THE COUNCIL ACTION PLAN.

BEFORE WE GET INTO THE COUNCIL QUESTIONS, I, I'D LIKE TO ASK ANGELA IF WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS OF THIS ITEM? NO SPEAKER, SIR.

ALRIGHT, THEN BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSION.

MICHELLE, GO AHEAD.

ALRIGHT.

I THINK, UM, GRAHAM'S RECOMMENDATION FOR THE LAST THREE ITEMS ON HIS, UM, YEAH, THOSE, LET'S PUT A HOLD ON THOSE.

THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

LET'S PUT A HOLD ON 'EM.

WE DO HAVE A LOT OF HIGHER PRIORITY ITEMS AND UM, YES, I'D LIKE TO SEE FINANCIAL LITERACY, BUT UM, MAYBE THERE'S AN ORGANIZATION WHO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT ON.

BUT FOR RIGHT NOW, I DON'T THINK COUNCIL NEEDS TO BE SPENDING TIME ON THIS AND WE'VE GOT BIGGER FISH TO FRY.

THAT'S IT.

I AGREE WITH THAT.

YEAH, I AGREE THAT THOSE, UH, LAST THREE THINGS ARE SOMETHING THAT, UH, WE CAN DELAY TILL NEXT YEAR.

AND AS FAR AS THE FINANCIAL LITERACY GOES, UH, I THINK THAT, UH, GROSSMONT ADULT SCHOOL OR GROSS MCQUEEN MECCA COLLEGE DISTRICT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE AND HAVING IN THAT CLASSES.

FOR THAT, GO AHEAD.

UM, I AGREE ON NUMBER ONE, I AGREE ON NUMBER TWO.

ON NUMBER THREE.

I THINK THERE'S A QUICK, UH, PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT COULD BE HELPFUL TO DECIDE IF YOU WANNA GO FORWARD ON THE TECHNOLOGICAL SOLUTIONS.

AT LAST YEAR'S SMART CITIES CONFERENCE IN DENVER, WE SAW SOME EXAMPLES OF SENSORS THAT WILL, UM, MONITOR ROAD CONDITIONS.

AND AFTER A RAIN, IT CAN AUTOMATICALLY DETECT A CHANGE IN THE PAVEMENT DEPTH OF MORE THAN HALF AN INCH, FOR INSTANCE, IF THAT'S THE SETTING.

AND THAT WOULD AUTOMATICALLY TRIGGER, UH, A WORK ORDER TO THE PUBLIC WORKS.

HEY, THIS IS A POTHOLE BASED ON THIS SENSOR, UH, MEASURING THIS.

THERE ALSO ARE SENSORS TO, UH, MOTION SENSORS.

IF THE PARK IS CLOSED, UH, AND YOU SEE MOTION ACTIVITY IN THE PARK AT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, THAT COULD BE AN ALERT TO SOMEBODY TO GO, UH, CHECK IT OUT.

SO THE KEY HERE IS COST, BECAUSE THIS COMES DOWN TO LICENSING FEE AND THE, THE SENSORS AREN'T ALWAYS EXPENSIVE.

IT'S, THEY MAKE THE MONEY ON THE LICENSING FEE.

UH, THAT'S WHY MICROSOFT, I THINK HAS GOTTEN AWAY FROM SELLING, UM, BOXES AND NOW THEY'RE SELLING ANNUAL LICENSES.

SO I THINK WE COULD FIND OUT THE COST OF SOME OF THESE THINGS BEFORE WE EVEN GO ANY FURTHER.

WELL, AS YOU RECALL, A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE DID AN RFP FOR TECHNOLOGY SERVICES THAT WOULD, UH, CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT, UH, BE A FORCE MULTIPLIER FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT.

AND ONE OF THOSE WAS SENSORS IN OUR PARKS.

AND IN FACT, QUALCOMM HAS A TECHNOLOGY THAT CAN EVEN USE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TO, TO IDENTIFY ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES.

RIGHT? SOMEONE IS, IS DOING A MOTION OF LOOKING LIKE THEY'RE USING DRUGS.

THAT WOULD BE A, A DIFFERENT TYPE OF NOTICE THAN JUST SOMEONE WALKING THROUGH THE PARK.

UM, AT THE TIME IT WAS, IT WAS PRETTY FINANCIALLY INFEASIBLE FOR THAT.

IT WAS, IT WAS A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN, THAN SOME CAMERAS.

THERE WAS A LOT OF COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

SO, I MEAN, IF THE COUNCIL WANTS US TO RE-LOOK AT THAT OR IDENTIFY SPECIFIC TECHNOLOGIES YOU WANT US TO FOCUS ON.

'CAUSE WE DID DO, IN THIS LAST YEAR, WE EVEN LET OUT ANOTHER RFP, JUST GENERAL, UH, TECHNOLOGIES.

AND I DON'T THINK, DO WE RECEIVE ANY BIDDERS ON THAT? WE RECEIVED ZERO BIDDER.

SO IF THERE WAS A SPECIFIC TECHNOLOGY THAT COUNCIL WANTS US TO FOCUS ON OR A SPECIFIC PROBLEM, WE CAN LOOK FOR THAT SOLUTION.

BUT SORT OF JUST THROWING STUFF AGAINST THE WALL SEEMS TO NOT HAVE WORKED IN THE PAST IN, IN REGARD TO THAT.

I, I'D LIKE TO HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE CITY WHEN, WHEN THEY THINK THAT, UH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.

I DON'T FEEL LIKE I'M AN EXPERT IN SECURITY.

SO IF, IF, UM, IF SOMEBODY ON THE TEAM

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FEELS LIKE SOMETHING THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT I'D LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, BRING THAT TO US ON A COUNCIL MEETING.

WE, WE GET, UM, PROPOSALS ALL THE TIME, OR NOT PROPOSALS, BUT SOLICITATIONS ALL THE TIME.

SO, AND THEY'RE ALWAYS INTERESTING TO LOOK AT.

I THINK WE WERE ALWAYS TRYING TO SEE FOR LOOK FOR SOLUTIONS.

UM, I SAW SOME SIMILAR, UH, SENSORS THAT, UH, CITY HAD WHERE THEY PUT THINGS ON THEIR BUS AND ACTUALLY AS THE BUS DROVE AROUND, THEY WERE ACTUALLY MEASURING STREET, UH, DEPTHS AND OTHER TYPES OF THINGS.

SO I THINK THOSE ARE INTERESTING.

I, I THINK FOR US RIGHT NOW, FRANKLY, IS THE BANDWIDTH OF OUR IT DEPARTMENT.

WE HAVE, UM, I'LL, I'LL USE CARLSBAD AS AN EXAMPLE.

THEIR IT DEPARTMENT HAS 40 INDIVIDUALS IN IT.

AND SO THEY'RE ALWAYS EXPLORING AND LOOKING FOR COOL TECHNOLOGIES.

MAYBE WE CAN SPEND SOME TIME TO LET THEM DO SOME HOMEWORK FOR US AND SEE WHAT'S WORKING THERE AND NOT WORKING THERE.

AND UH, THAT MAY SAVE US SOME TIME.

SO I, WE GOTTA THINK SMARTER ABOUT IT 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE 40 PEOPLE IN OUR IT DEPARTMENT LIKE CARLSBAD.

BUT, UM, BUT I THINK IF COUNCIL DOES SEE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE US TO FOCUS ON, THAT WOULD HELP US AS WELL.

BUT WE'LL ALWAYS KEEP OUR EYES OPEN FOR TECHNOLOGICAL SOLUTIONS.

ERIC? YEAH, UH, I LIKE THE SENSOR IDEA.

UH, STEVE, I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA.

SO, UH, MAYBE WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT AGAIN AS TIME PASSES, THE COST OF THAT TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY SHOULD BE GOING DOWN QUITE A BIT.

AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR SPECIFICS, I'D SAY ROAD CONDITIONS AND ACTIVITY AFTER DARK ENCLOSED PLACES, IF I HAD TO NAME TWO SPECIFIC AREAS.

IS THERE CONSENSUS FROM THE COUNCIL ON THAT? YEAH, WE'LL, YEAH, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

YEAH, I, I, I AGREE.

I, MY ONLY COMMENTS GENERALLY WITH REGARD TO THE GOALS, HEAVY LIFTS, IT LOOKS LIKE FOR PUBLIC WORKS, MOST OF THEM ARE IDENTIFIED FOR PUBLIC WORKS IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, UM, HEAVY LIFTS.

SO, UM, , GOOD LUCK.

, I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING ON MOST OF IT.

I'M LOOKING AT YASMINE AND IF YASMINE'S BACK THERE, GOOD LUCK.

I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK FROM EVERYBODY.

UM, I WOULD SAY, UM, I'M ALWAYS GONNA FIGHT FOR IT.

THE, UH, WHERE IS IT? THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER.

I KNOW IT SAYS ON HOLD.

I JUST REALLY THINK THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE A DATE THERE AT SOME POINT.

AND IF I'M LOOKING AT OTHER PRIORITIES, I THINK THAT WE GOT CHRIS AS OUR MARKETING MANAGER AND HE'S BEEN AWESOME AND HE'S A FORCE MULTIPLIER.

AND IF WE COULD GET AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER IN THIS WORKING OUTTA THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, WE COULD HAVE EVERYTHING UNDER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CONTROLLED AND HIT ON FAST FORWARD.

SO I'M ALWAYS GONNA KEEP SPEAKING THAT.

UM, AND THEN, UH, THAT'S REALLY IT.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED THESE THREE EITHER.

UM, THOSE CAN WAIT.

WHEN I LOOK AT THE PRIORITIES THAT YOU'VE OUTLINED, GRAHAM, I THINK THEY'RE IN LINE, UM, WITH WHAT THE CITY NEEDS.

SO, UM, THAT'S MY FEEDBACK.

MS. SHORT'S ON THE, ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER, WE WOULD AGREE.

I MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY THE ONLY CITY ALMOST IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY EXCEPT FOR THE VERY SMALLEST CITIES IN THIS COUNTY THAT DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S FOCUSED ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

UH, BACK TO CARL, I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT A COUPLE DIFFERENT CITIES, STAFFING LEVELS AND ARE YOU GETTING ENVIOUS? NOT ENVIOUS, BUT, UH, CARL CARLSBAD HAS MORE PEOPLE IN THEIR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TEAM THAN WE HAVE THE, IN THE ENTIRE OH, MARKETING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAN WE HAVE ON THE ENTIRE SECOND FLOOR OF CITY HALL.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S JUST, THAT'S PROBABLY TOO MANY, I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU.

UM, AND I WOULDN'T, I'M NOT ASKING FOR THAT, BUT I THINK ONE PERSON WOULD REALLY HELP US HONE AND THERE'S, THERE'S SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES THAT I KNOW VINCE AND I WOULD LIKE TO SPEND SOME MORE TIME ON THAT WOULD BRING MONEY INTO THE CITY OF EL CAJON, BUT WE JUST DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE THE BANDWIDTH AND IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO EITHER HIM, ME, AND MAYBE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PERIODICALLY.

SO, UM, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

BUT WE'LL LOOK AT WHAT THE BUDGET LOOKS LIKE, UH, GIVEN ALL THE OTHER CONFLICTING ISSUES AND THE OTHER DEMANDS ON THAT BUDGET.

AND SO WHERE, WE'LL, WHERE WE'RE AT SALES TAX WISE, WE'LL SEE AS WELL.

AND NO, NO FEEDBACK HERE FOR THIS NEXT COMMENT, BUT MAYBE YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING CONTRACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, FOR A ONE YEAR TERM WITH A TWO YEAR EXTENSION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND WE COULD USE GENERAL FUND MONEY TO FUND THAT OR YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.

SO SOMETHING CREATIVE, UM, INCENTIVE, YOU KNOW, FOR BRINGING IN BUSINESSES IN A SALES TAX SHARE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE WE COULD, UM, GET SOMEONE IN THE POSITION WORKING PART-TIME OR YOU KNOW, MAYBE ON A CONTRACT ON UNLIMITED TIME, UM, FRAME A YEAR TO THREE YEARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, JUST TO, UH, FORM THE, FORM THE POSITION AND MAYBE SEE THE VALUE.

UM, NO NEED FOR RESPONSE, JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.

SEE FOR YOU TO EXPLORE.

WANT TO COMMIT TO SOMETHING WITHOUT HAVING THE MONEY THERE, OR AT LEAST EXPECTED THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

UH, ONE MORE THING.

SURE.

I THINK WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL, UH, REGARDING MONEY UNTIL AFTER NOVEMBER.

I DON'T

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WE HAVE OFTEN SAID, WHAT DOES THE EAST COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL DO WHERE A DUES PAYING MEMBER AND UNTIL WE GET OUR OWN CUSTOM IN-HOUSE PERSON, UH, PERHAPS WE CAN LEAN ON THEM FOR SOME, UH, RESOURCES.

I, I DON'T, WE'D HAVE TO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM.

I DON'T THINK THE SERVICES THAT THEY DO UNDER OUR SORT OF GENERAL MEMBERSHIP WOULD FULFILL WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UH, ON THE DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.

BUT THAT'S POTENTIALLY, AS MR. ORTIZ TALKED ABOUT, MAYBE A CONTRACT DID, THERE'S A POTENTIAL CONTRACTED POSITION THERE THAT COULD HELP WITH THE LIFT.

WELL, LIKE GARY SAYS, I'M REALLY SENSITIVE ABOUT MONEY AND ALL OF THESE GOALS TO SAY, HEY, LET'S, LET'S FINISH WHAT WE GOT.

WE'VE BUDGETED FOR IT, BUT BEFORE WE START, START DOING SOMETHING NEW, WE GOTTA MAKE SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH MONEY FOR REALLY IMPORTANT STUFF.

I AGREE.

OF LIKE A FIRE ENGINE AT STATION EIGHT OR, THAT'S MY CONCERN ABOUT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT COUNCIL'S DIRECTED US.

WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE MONEY PART.

SO, BUT THE EDC, THEY GET GRANTS FOR A LOT OF WHAT THEY DO AND PERHAPS THEY CAN, WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION, GUYS GO FOR A GRANT THAT WILL FUND THIS KIND OF PERSON FOR THIS KIND OF ACTIVITY FOR ALL OF EAST COUNTY, NOT JUST ELCON.

FAIR ENOUGH.

ALRIGHT, GRAHAM, DID YOU NEED ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK I GOT THE FEEDBACK I NEED.

I THINK AT THIS POINT, IF THE COUNCIL'S OKAY WITH, BASED ON WHAT YOU GAVE ME, UM, CONSIDERING APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL ACTION PLAN, THEN WE'LL PUT IT INTO ACTION.

DOES ANYBODY OBJECT? OKAY, GOOD.

SOUNDS GOOD.

HEY, BEFORE WE GO ALONG WITH THE REST OF THE MEETING, I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE WE HAVE SOME GUESTS HERE.

THE MOST OF THEM HAVE GONE.

I, I ADMIRE THE ONES WHO STUCK, UH, STAYED TO THE END.

WHERE ARE YOU GUYS FROM? BAHAA.

ANY OTHER HIGH SCHOOLS HERE TONIGHT? ALRIGHT, WELL WELCOME VALHALLA.

I HOPE YOU'RE HAVING A GOOD TIME.

OKAY THEN, UH, THERE ARE NO COMMISSION REPORTS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

ITEM 12 IS MY

[12. Council Activity Report]

ACTIVITIES REPORT

[13. COUNCILMEMBER STEVE GOBLE MTS (Metropolitan Transit System Board); East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority Board; Chamber of Commerce – Government Affairs Committee; SANDAG – Board of Directors – Alternate; SANDAG Public Safety Committee – Alternate.]

AND, UH, WERE ACTIVITIES REPORTS FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS.

COUNCIL MEMBER GOBEL, UH, AS REPORTED, EXCEPT I DIDN'T MAKE THE ARBOR DAY, UH, CELEBRATION.

SO SCRATCH THAT ONE OFF.

COUNCIL MEMBER KENDRICK

[14. COUNCILMEMBER GARY KENDRICK METRO Commission/Wastewater JPA; Heartland Communications; Heartland Fire Training JPA.]

AS REPORTED COUNCIL, COUNCIL

[15. COUNCILMEMBER MICHELLE METSCHEL Harry Griffen Park Joint Steering Committee; METRO Commission/Wastewater JPA – Alternate; Heartland Communications – Alternate; Heartland Fire Training JPA – Alternate. ]

MEMBER MITCHELL AS REPORTED COUNCIL MEMBER ORTIZ.

[16. DEPUTY MAYOR PHIL ORTIZ League of California Cities, San Diego Division; East County Economic Development Council; MTS (Metropolitan Transit System Board) – Alternate; East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority Board – Alternate; Chamber of Commerce – Government Affairs Committee – Alternate.]

MINE IS AS REPORTED.

[17. Modifying Regulations Related to Fences in Residential Zones RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council directs staff to analyze Municipal Code 17.130.170 regarding fence regulations and refer a recommendation to the Planning Commission and then the City Council for consideration.]

HAVE ONE JOINT COUNCIL MEMBER REPORT FROM COUNCIL MEMBER GOBEL AND DEPUTY MAYOR ORTIZ.

GENTLEMEN, I'LL DEFER TO COUNCIL MEMBER GOBEL.

UH, THIS CAME AS A RESULT OF A HOMEOWNER IN OUR DISTRICT WHO BROUGHT UP A VERY GOOD POINT ABOUT FENCING AND, UH, SPECIFICALLY FRONT YARD FENCING.

THE CURRENT MUNICIPAL CODE TALKS ABOUT, UH, YOU CAN HAVE UP TO 42 INCHES SOLID ON THE FRONT PART OF YOUR HOUSE.

UH, AND ANYTHING ABOVE 42 INCHES MUST BE 90% VISIBLE AND ROT, IRON ONLY.

AND THAT SEEMED LIKE AN ANTIQUATED, UH, SOLUTION THAT WAS VERY LIMITED AND EXPENSIVE, THAT SINCE PERHAPS THAT CODE WAS WRITTEN, THERE MAY BE NEW PRODUCTS AND NEW METHODS AVAILABLE THAT WOULD BE, UH, FINE AS WELL.

SO I THINK THE CITY MANAGER HAS A COUPLE OF PICTURES TO SHOW EXAMPLES OF THINGS THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING.

AND, AND THE GOAL HERE IS TO SEND THIS TO STAFF FOR EVALUATION AND POSSIBLE ACTION TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THEN TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A STREET, OH, THAT'S A STREET AT NIGHT THAT NEEDS A STREETLIGHT , THAT'S TAFT AVENUE THAT NEEDS A STREETLIGHT.

OKAY, WE GOT THAT ONE.

YEAH, THAT'S TAFT AVENUE.

I'M PLUGGED IN.

THAT'S ALL I CAN DO.

HOLD ON, LET ME GO.

HOLD ON YOU I NEED TO DO ONE MORE THING.

THERE WE GO.

HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF ANOTHER PRODUCT.

SO HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF THE CURRENT CODE TALKS ABOUT WR IRON FENCING.

AS, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S VERY ROBUST FENCING, USUALLY ROT, IRON ARE CUSTOM MADE FENCING AND IT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.

BUT HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF PERHAPS METAL RAIL FENCING, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE WROUGHT IRON IN THIS PARTICULAR PICTURE.

BUT, UH, SOME OF THE HOME IMPROVEMENT STORES SELL THESE PRE-MADE EIGHT FOOT PANELS OF THIS KIND OF FENCING AND IT'S MUCH MORE AFFORDABLE THAN CUSTOM WROUGHT IRON FENCING.

AND THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF 42 HIGH SOLID AND SOMETHING ABOVE THAT'S OPEN.

UH,

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IT'S, THIS IS CALLED HOG WIRE AND IT'S ABOUT QUARTER INCH, UH, METAL GAUGE AND EXAMPLE OF PERHAPS 42 INCHES SOLID AT THE BOTTOM AND THEN UP TO 72 INCHES TOTAL WITH AN OPEN THING.

AND THE IDEA HERE IS THAT IS A VERY GOOD LOOKING, AFFORDABLE OPTION COMPARED TO A CUSTOM WROUGHT IRON FENCING.

AS, AS AN ASIDE, UH, BACK IN 1994 I OWNED A, UH, RETAIL BUSINESS AND WE HAD A CUSTOM WROUGHT IRON DOOR MADE FOR THE BACK DOOR AS A SECURITY DOOR.

AND IN 1994, THAT DOOR COST ME A LITTLE OVER $1,300 30 YEARS AGO FOR THAT CUSTOMER ON IRON DOORS.

VERY QUALITY CRAFTSMAN AND ATED.

BUT THAT $1,300 DOOR TODAY MAY BE $2,500.

SO THERE ARE OTHER AFFORDABLE OPTIONS.

UH, I THINK WE WOULD LIKE TO STAFF EVALUATE, COME UP WITH NEW OPTIONS, TAKE A LOOK AT THE 90%, UH, ISSUE BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE THAT 90% ALWAYS WORKS ON ALL SOLUTIONS AND SEE IF WE CAN HELP OUR CITY OUT WITH OTHER OPTIONS FOR THOSE THAT WANT TO, UH, BEAUTIFY THEIR, THEIR FRONT YARD AND DO SO AFFORDABLY.

YEAH, UH, I'M OPEN TO THAT.

I MEAN, SECURITY IS A BIG DEAL THESE DAYS.

IT'S A LOT DIFFERENT WORLD THAN IT WAS 30 YEARS AGO.

ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

DO, DO WE NEED A MOTION OR IS IT FEEDBACK? I THINK YEAH, EMOTION WOULD BE HELPFUL AND THEN WE'LL DIRECT.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, IT'LL GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FIRST, SO WE'LL DO A, AN ANALYSIS, WE'LL GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WITH SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND IT'LL COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL.

WELL, LEMME JUST MAKE SURE.

DO WE NEED TO GO TO SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS? NO SPEAKER CARDS, SIR.

NOW THAT BRINGS US TO CLOSE SESSION.

ALRIGHT.

SO I'D MOVE THAT WE SEND THIS ITEM ABOUT FRONT FACING FENCING TO STAFF FOR EVALUATION ON ALTERNATIVES TO ROT, IRON, AND SEND THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ULTIMATELY TO THE COUNCIL.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

WELL THANK YOU GENTLEMEN.

THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

THERE ARE NO GENERAL INFORMATION ITEMS. THERE ARE NO SE FIRST OR SECOND READINGS OF ORDINANCES.

AND

[23. CLOSED SESSIONS:]

THE CITY CLEAR ATTORNEY WILL RECITE THE TITLE AND LEAD US INTO THE CLOSED SESSION.

THE CLERK GETS A LOT OF POWER TODAY.

UH, WE'RE GONNA GO TO A CLOSED SESSION ON TWO ITEMS. UH, MAYOR.

THE FIRST IS ITEMS 18 IN CLOSED SESSION FOR CONFERENCE WITH LABOR NEGOTIATION, LABOR NEGOTIATORS PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 57 0.6.

THE AGENCY'S DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVES ARE THE CITY MANAGER, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, DIRECTOR OF HUMAN RESOURCES, AND CITY ATTORNEY.

THE EMPLOYEE ORGANIZATIONS TO BE NEGOTIATING WITH ARE EL CAJON POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION AND EL CAJON POLICE OFFICERS ASSOCIATION MANAGEMENT.

GROUP.

AND THEN THE SECOND ITEM IS ITEM 19, CLOSED SESSION FOR CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATORS PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 5 6 0.8.

AND THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT 4 25 WEST MAIN STREET.

THE NEGOTIATING PARTY IS JAH INC.

AND HITESH C PATEL AS THE CEO.

THE CITY'S NEGOTIATORS OF THE CITY MANAGER, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, AND CITY ATTORNEY.

AND UNDER NEGOTIATION WOULD BE PRICED AND TERMS FOR PAYMENT FOR ACQUISITION OF THE PROPERTY.