Jan 23, 2024 City Council Meeting 3pm

TO US, THE CHAMBER AND THE CHAMBER FOUNDATION TO TRY TO GET SOMETHING GOING.

APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT'S GOOD.

SO IF I COULD, UH, ALSO SAY THAT I MENTIONED THE LA MESA RIOTS THAT HAPPENED, UH, BACK IN 2020.

UH, MR. PHIL ORTIZ, WHO WAS ON OUR BOARD, WAS ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE TO MAKE THE PHONE CALL

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SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT OUR TEAM, IT REALLY IS EVERYBODY IN OUR COMMUNITY, OUR BOARD, EVERYBODY WHO'S MAKING A DIFFERENCE.

SO I APPRECIATE THE RECOGNITION THAT I GOT FROM THE SAN DIEGO BUSINESS JOURNAL, BUT THAT IS BECAUSE OF YOU AND EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND WHAT WE'RE DOING.

I CAN'T DO ANYTHING ALONE.

IT TAKES COLLABORATIONS AND PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES.

AND SO I APPRECIATE THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY OF ELCON.

QUESTION, QUESTIONS THERE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I'LL GIVE YOU THE MEETING BACK.

NO, THANKS VERY MUCH.

THE SECOND PRESENTATION IS FOR THE IRC LEADERSHIP ACADEMY.

I'D LIKE TO INVITE TANYA RIVERA ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT SUPERVISOR TO SHARE WITH US ABOUT THIS.

HI TANYA.

HI EVERYONE.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS TANYA AND I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING AT THE NONPROFIT INTERNATIONAL RESCUE COMMITTEE, WHICH IS A RESETTLEMENT SERVICES AGENCY.

UM, TODAY I'M JOINING EA, WHO IS A RESIDENT LEADERSHIP ACADEMY PARTICIPANT.

AND I KNOW THAT, UM, SHE WAS WORKING ALONGSIDE NINE OTHER PARTICIPANTS OF THE PROGRAM TO PUT TOGETHER A PROJECT FOR YOU.

SINCE TOGETHER THEY WERE ABLE TO IDENTIFY DIFFERENT NECESSITIES IN THE EL CAJON AREA.

AND TODAY WE ARE GOING TO BE, UM, DOING AN OVERVIEW OF THAT WITH HOPES OF HAVING THIS, UH, REVIEW AND HOPEFULLY APPROVED.

OKAY, THAT'S, SO I'LL JUST CONTINUE IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU.

YEAH, PLEASE.

SO, UM, JUST AS A, AS A PROBLEM OVERVIEW, SOMETHING THAT THE RLA PARTICIPANTS IDENTIFY IS THAT SOME OF THE LOCAL PARKS ARE IN NEED OF SOME SUPPORT AND IMPROVEMENT AS WELL.

SO BASICALLY TO ENABLE THESE SPACES EVEN MORE FOR LOCAL FAMILIES TO BE ABLE TO HAVE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES THERE FOR FREE.

AND THEY ALSO IDENTIFY THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR MORE CLEANLINESS IN THE AREA.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY ALSO IDENTIFY, UM, AN ADDITIONAL TRANSPORTATION NEED, WHICH IS NOT DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO THE PARK, BUT JUST FOR, UH, SCHEDULING ALL THE LOCAL TRANSPORTATION.

AND WE'RE GOING TO DO AN OVERVIEW, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PRESENTATION, , JUST LEMME KNOW.

FOR EXAMPLE, PLAYGROUND SLIDES.

SO THE FIRST GOAL THAT THE RESIDENT LEADERSHIP ACADEMY PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS HAD IS TO ADD QR CODES TO THE EL CAJON BUS STATIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY TO KNOW ABOUT THE BUS SCHEDULE AND LEARN ABOUT LAST MINUTE CHANGES.

I THINK THAT THAT WILL BE A WONDERFUL IDEA.

AS YOU KNOW, THE METRO TRANSIT MIGHT ALREADY HAVE A SCHEDULE SET UP AND PEOPLE MIGHT BE ABLE TO KNOW THAT THAT LIKE BEFORE, BUT IF THEY GET TO THE STATION AND THEY'RE ABLE TO SCAN THAT CODE, THEY WILL GET THE LATEST INFORMATION IN CASE THERE ARE ANY CHANGES.

UM, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE AND THAT WE CAN HOPE THAT IT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED.

ANOTHER AREA OF NEED THAT WAS IDENTIFIED, UM, IS THAT AFTER SERVING SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS OF EL CAJON, IS THAT THE WELLS AND THE JOHN F. KENNEDY PARKS NEED SOME, UM, ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENT.

AND THAT INCLUDES INSTALLING FENCES AROUND THE CHILDREN'S PLAYGROUND AREAS TO INCREASE SAFETY.

ONCE YOU HAVE A BABY, I JUST HAD A BABY LAST YEAR AND I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT ONE DAY I'LL BE TAKING THEM TO THE PARK, RIGHT? AND JUST THINKING THAT HOW ACTIVE AND ALL THIS ENERGY THAT THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, IF THESE FENCES COULD BE INSTALLED IN THE PARKS, AS YOU CAN SEE, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE IN THE PICTURE FROM THE PRESENTATION, I THINK THAT THAT WILL GIVE PEACE OF MIND TO THE PARENTS AND ALSO IT WILL INCREASE THE SAFETY MEASURES FOR THEIR CHILDREN AS WELL.

ANOTHER IDEA THAT THE PARTICIPANTS HAD WAS ABOUT INSTALLING SHADES AND ADDITIONAL PLAY EQUIPMENT FOR CHILDREN.

WE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT THE BUDGET IS LIMITED AND NOT ALL OF THIS MIGHT BE FEASIBLE, BUT WE HOPE THAT SOME OF THIS COULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION TO MAKE THESE PARKS A BETTER EXPERIENCE FOR EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY.

ALSO, THEY WERE HOPING TO ADD MORE PICNIC TABLES WITH SHADES OVER THEM AND ART DESIGN, THESE GUYS SAID, UH, DURING A PREVIOUS MEETING THAT WE HAD WITH THE CITY MANAGEMENT, THAT THEY ARE BE WILLING TO VOLUNTEER TO ASSIST IN ANYTHING THAT IS POSSIBLE.

AND EVEN WITH THE PAINTINGS, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO IMPLEMENT.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY WILL ALSO LIKE TO SEE THE PARKS MORE CLEAN.

FOR EXAMPLE, INSTALLING MORE TRASH CANS AND MORE, UM, DOG WASTE, UH, TRASH CANS AS WELL.

AND, UM, SORRY ABOUT THIS, BUT ALSO TO SEE THE BATHROOMS A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAN AS WELL.

HOPEFULLY THAT COULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

AND UM, ALSO, UH, WE HEARD FROM THE PARTICIPANTS THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR INSTALLING FITNESS EQUIPMENT AND MORE LIGHT IN THE AREA, ESPECIALLY SINCE NOW IT'S

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GETTING DARK AT OUR EARLIER TIME, THAT WILL REALLY ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY TO BE THE PARK UNTIL CLOSE TIME.

ANOTHER GOAL THAT, UM, THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE IMPLEMENTED IS THAT HOPEFULLY THE CITY OF EL CAJON IS ABLE TO PROVIDE FREE RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES FOR WOMEN TO OVERCOME STRESS.

AND SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT WAS LIKE HAVING ACTIVITIES TO PLAY CHESS, TO DO YOGA, UH, MEDITATION AS WELL.

AND ALSO I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME FREE AFTERSCHOOL, THIS IS NOT CONNECTED TO THE PARKS, MORE TO THE SCHOOLS, BUT THEY REALLY WANT TO SEE FREE AFTERSCHOOL ACTIVITIES FOR KIDS.

KIDS LIKE, UH, SOCCER.

SOMETIMES THERE IS SOME FEE AND SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO AFFORD THAT BE DUE TO BEING LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.

SO HOPEFULLY THESE ARE INITIATIVES THAT COULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION TO IMPROVE THE AREA.

UM, IN TERMS OF, AS I WAS SAYING, FOR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES, THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE MEDITATION PRACTICE, CHESS AND OUTSIDE OF THE PARK IF POSSIBLE.

WE DON'T WANT TO ABUSE, YOU KNOW, OF, OF THAT WILLINGNESS THAT YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY.

BUT IF THEY COULD BE PROVIDED ALSO LIKE SEWING CLASSES, COOKING CLASSES, COMPUTER CLASSES, NOT NECESSARILY AT THE PARKS OBVIOUSLY, BUT JUST THROUGH A COMMUNITY CENTER, THAT WILL BE A WONDERFUL INITIATIVE AND SUPPORT FOR THEM AND TO HAVE ACCESS TO THESE FOR FREE AS WELL.

WHEN IT COMES TO IMPLEMENTING RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES AT THE PARKS FOR CHILDREN SPECIFICALLY, THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT, UH, BIGGER PLAYGROUNDS FOR KIDS AND UH, MORE SPORTS EQUIPMENT FOR TEENAGERS AS WELL.

AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING AS A PARTICIPANT OF THE PROGRAM.

UM, MY PERMISSION OF ALL OF YOU, MY ENGLISH IS, UH, NOT IN THE HIGH LEVEL.

YOU ARE GREAT.

AND UH, JUST I WANT TO SAY, UH, I WANT TO ATTENTION TO THE WELLS PARK, ESPECIALLY THE WELLS PARK.

MOST OF THE REFUGEE COME IN THE WELL PARK, BUT THERE IS NOT, UH, OPPORTUNITY LIKE, UH, NOT ANY ENOUGH CHEER TABLES.

AND, UH, I GO AT, UH, PARK EVERY SATURDAY WITH MY CHILDREN.

MOST OF THE REFUGEE AFGHAN REFUGEE, THEY SIT IN THE GROUND AND UH, THEY USE CARPET OR SOME THINGS AND THEY PLAY WITH CHILDREN IN THE GROUND.

IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT BECAUSE, UH, THE, THE WEATHER IS CHANGE AND BE COOLED AND THEN THAT PARK IS NOT SAFE.

AND FOR CHILDREN AND FOR ALMONDS, UH, I WANT YOUR ATTENTION FOR THAT WORKS AND BE GOOD IN THE FUTURE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I'M SORRY BECAUSE MY ANGLE IS NOT THE HIGH LEVEL.

YEAH, YOU DID FINE.

I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT IS PERFECT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS.

YEAH, WE, WE MIGHT.

AND BY THE WAY, YOU DID FINE.

YOU DID VERY WELL.

I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE IRC LEADERSHIP ACADEMY REALLY WANTED TO FOCUS ON WAS ALSO, UM, MORE, UH, EXERCISE EQUIPMENT.

THANKS.

UM, QUESTIONS CARRIE, WELL FIRST OF ALL, UH, I'M ASK, CAME UP HERE AND SPOKE TO US.

NEVER WORRY ABOUT YOUR ENGLISH BEING A LITTLE ROUGH BECAUSE UH, YOU KNOW, I WISH I COULD SPEAK A SECOND, SECOND LANGUAGE SO YOU CAN DO SOMETHING I CAN'T DO.

UM, THE OTHER THING IS I ALSO WANT TO THANK BOTH OF YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO HELP THE COMMUNITY AND BRINGING THOSE THINGS BACK TO US.

WELL, I REALLY LIKED THE IDEA OF THE FENCING AROUND THE CHILDREN'S PLAY AREA BECAUSE, UH, I USED TO HAVE FOUR LITTLE BOYS AND YOU CAN'T KEEP AN EYE ON ALL OF 'EM 'CAUSE ONE GOES THIS WAY AND ONE GOES THAT WAY.

SO I COULD SEE WHERE THAT WOULD BE EXTREMELY HELPFUL.

SO, AND THE THING WITH THE, THE SHADE FOR THE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, UH, MY, MY KIDS WERE OCCASIONALLY BURNED A LITTLE BIT FROM BEING ON A HOT SLIDE OR, UH, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S THE, IT'S RED, IT, YOU KNOW, ABSORBS THE HEAT.

AND SO ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO MAKE IT MORE PLEASANT FOR THE KIDS, I'M ALL FOR.

SO I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE TO YOU AND THE PEOPLE YOU WORKED WITH TO, TO COME UP WITH THESE THINGS THAT THEY'RE CLEARLY VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT.

'CAUSE AS A DAD THAT USED TO TAKE MY KIDS TO THE PARK, YOU KNOW, TWO, THREE TIMES A WEEK, I CAN REALLY RELATE TO THOSE THINGS.

OH, THANK YOU.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR, THANK YOU FOR PAYING OUR ATTENTION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

HOLD ON.

ANYBODY ELSE? GRAHAM? UH, CAN YOU JUST GIVE US A LITTLE RUNDOWN OF SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS WE'VE MADE AT WELLES PARK AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE WITH KEEPING THE BATHROOMS CLEAN AND CERTAINLY AND WE, WE ACTUALLY, WHEN I MET WITH THEM, WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE.

I THINK THEIR CONCERN IS THAT WE NEED TO DO MORE.

THERE'S MORE PLACES FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO SIT, MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SOME SHADE.

I'M PLEASED TO ANNOUNCE THAT WE ARE PUTTING, YOU KNOW, AS OVER THE COUPLE LAST COUPLE YEARS WE'VE BEEN PUTTING SHADE STRUCTURES AND A LOT OF OUR PARKS.

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AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MR. CARSON HAS BEEN PUSHING FOR IN OUR PARKS AS WELL.

SO I THINK THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING ALREADY IN THE WORKS.

UM, SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY GAVE US WERE REALLY HELPFUL AS WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER THE FINAL TOUCHES OF A, UH, RECREATION MASTER PLAN.

SO THIS WAS HELPFUL AND I THINK, UM, ONE OF THE BIG TAKEAWAYS THAT I HAD PERSONALLY IS UNDERSTANDING WHAT ARE SOME OF THE PROGRAM NEEDS OF OUR NEWER RESIDENTS IN OUR CITY.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY, WE'RE REALLY GOOD AT PROGRAMMING, ESPECIALLY AT THE RECREATION SIDE.

THINGS THAT THAT HAVE BEEN TRUE AND TRIED THAT HAVE WORKED FOR YEARS AND YEARS WITH OUR TRADITIONAL RESIDENTS.

BUT, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THIS WAS CLUBS FOR WOMEN WHERE THEY CAN RECREATE TOGETHER AND, AND FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE.

AND YOU SAW THE, HEARD THE OPPORTUNITY FOR A CHESS, CHESS FOR WOMEN.

AND SO THERE'S SOME REALLY COOL OPPORTUNITIES I THINK THAT WE HAVE AS A CITY TO CONNECT WITH OUR MORE RECENT IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY, UM, TO PROVIDE A BETTER SERVICE.

CONSENT ITEMS OR ROUTINE MATTERS ENACTED BY ONE MOTION ACCORDING TO THE RECOMMENDATION LISTED BELOW WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

I APPRECIATE THAT, GRAHAM.

THANKS.

BEFORE YOU OKAY, THANK YOU.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING AND UM, I'M SURE WE'LL CONTINUE TALKING AND HOPEFULLY MAKE THE PARKS A BETTER PLACE.

UH, THAT BRINGS US UP TO AGENDA CHANGES STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANY? NO SIR.

COUNSEL.

ALRIGHT, NOW WE'RE IN CONSENT ITEMS.

[7. CONSENT ITEMS: Consent Items are routine matters enacted by one motion according to the RECOMMENDATION listed below. With the concurrence of the City Council, a Council Member or person in attendance may request discussion of a Consent Item at this time.]

COUNCIL MEMBER OR PERSON IN ATTENDANCE MAY REQUEST A DISCUSSION OF A CONSENT ITEM AT THIS TIME.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO YOU WISH TO PULL ANY OF THE CONSENT ITEMS? STAFF? NO.

ANGELA, DO YOU HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR CONSENT ITEMS? WE HAVE NO SPEAKER CARD, SIR.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THEN TO APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS. SECOND.

WE'RE NOW PUBLIC COMMENT.

[ PUBLIC COMMENT: At this time, any person may address a matter within the jurisdiction of the City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the El Cajon Redevelopment Agency that is not on the Agenda. Comments relating to items on today’s docket are to be taken at the time the item is heard. State law prohibits discussion or action on items not on the Agenda; however, Council, Authority and Agency Members may briefly respond to statements or questions. An item may be placed on a future Agenda.]

AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS A MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE EL CAJON REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

COMMENTS RELATING TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA ARE TO BE TAKEN AT THE TIME THAT THE ITEM IS HEARD.

STATE LAW PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

HOWEVER, CITY COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND TO STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS AND, AND ITEM MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, SIR.

I MEAN, MR. MITCHELL .

IT'S A JOKE, RIGHT? I HAD SOMETHING REALLY PREPARED TO SAY TODAY, BUT, UM, THE STORM CHANGED ALL THAT.

YOU KNOW, THIS STORM WE JUST HAD, I DON'T KNOW HOW EL CAJON FARED, BUT I SAW SOME PRETTY RECKLESS STUFF HAPPENING.

WHAT I DID SEE WAS A LOT OF PEOPLE FREAKING OUT.

I SAW THESE WOMEN THAT WERE FREAKING OUT BECAUSE THEIR HAIR WAS GETTING WET AND THEIR MAKEUP IS RUNNING AND THEIR CARS WERE GETTING DIRTY.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT I, WHAT I DIDN'T SEE, I DIDN'T SEE THE HOMELESS PEOPLE FREAKING OUT.

I SAW THE HOMELESS PEOPLE RELAXED.

I SAW THEM HELPING PEOPLE THAT WERE STUCK IN WATER.

I SAW THEM HELPING CLEAR THE DRAINS WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS IN ALL THE CITIES.

AND SO I'M ASKING THAT PEOPLE GIVE A LITTLE MORE RESPECT FOR THE HOMELESS PEOPLE OUT THERE.

THEY'RE NOT ALL DRUG ADDICTS, THEY'RE NOT ALL ALCOHOLICS, AND THEY ALL, THEY DON'T ALL HAVE A MENTAL ILLNESS.

HAVE FIVE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

THANKS BRENDA.

OKAY, THERE ARE NO WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS AND NO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

[6. Homeless Programs and Services Update RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council receives the homeless programs and services report and, if desired, provides feedback, recommendations, and direction on homeless-related programming and funding.]

ITEM SIX IS A HOMELESS PROGRAMS AND SERVICES UPDATE.

AND I'LL ASK STAFF TO TELL US ABOUT THIS.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TODAY.

MY NAME IS A PEYO.

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I'M THE MANAGEMENT ANALYST WITH THE HOUSING DIVISION AND THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, BUT YOU CAN CALL ME YANI FOR SHORT.

UH, I WILL BE PRESENTING AN UPDATE ON THE PROGRAMS AND SERVICES THAT THE CITY IS CURRENTLY ENGAGED IN TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS.

UH, FROM JULY TO DECEMBER, 2023, THE CITY HAS ALLOCATED A TOTAL OF 2.3 MILLION AS SHOWN ON THIS SLIDE.

UH, 2.1 MILLION CAME FROM PLHA AND 185,000 CAME FROM A-C-D-B-G REALLOCATION.

THE PERMANENT LOCAL HOUSING ALLOCATION FUND OR PLHA COMES FROM THE $75 TRANSACTION FEE THAT IS LEVI ON CERTAIN REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS.

CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THESE ALLOCATIONS TO VARIOUS SERVICE PROVIDERS BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF 2023 WITH THE ONE-TIME.

CDBG CARES ACT ALLOCATIONS FROM 2020 BEING FULLY ALLOCATED AND ALMOST FULLY EXPENDED.

PLHA IS A PERMANENT SOURCE OF FUNDING, UH, THAT CAN BE USED FOR OR THAT CAN BE USED TO FUND THESE VARIOUS, UH, HOMELESS SERVICES PROGRAMS THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

THESE SERVICES INCLUDE, UH, HOUSING NAVIGATION, OUTREACH, CASE MANAGEMENT, RENTAL ASSISTANCE, RAPID REHOUSING AND EMERGENCY SHELTER.

UNDER PLHA, WE CAN ALSO ALLOCATE 5% THAT GOES TOWARDS, UH, PRIOR PROGRAM ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS.

ADDITIONALLY, THE 185,000 IN CDPG FUNDS THAT WAS REALLOCATED IS TO SUPPORT ADDITIONAL OUTREACH SUPPORT SERVICES.

AND THIS BRINGS US TO HAVING SIX NEW PROGRAMS IN THE LAST SIX, SIX MONTHS.

THIS TABLE SHOWS THE EXPENDITURES AND RESULTS FOR ALL OF THEIR ACTIVE PROGRAMS IN THE CITY, INCLUDING THE ONES IN THE PREVIOUS SLIDE, UH, FROM JULY TO DECEMBER, 2023.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THERE IS A SMALL CORRECTION FOR THE AMOUNT OF EXPENDITURES.

THERE ARE CURRENTLY 14 ACTIVE PROGRAMS AND THERE HAS BEEN A TOTAL OF $395,502 IN EXPENDITURES IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS.

THIS IS A SMALL, UH, $2,500 DIFFERENCE, UH, THAN WAS PRESENTED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

ALTHOUGH THESE FUNDS WERE ALLOCATED TO THE EAST COUNTY, UM, TASK FORCE, NO EXPENDITURES HAVE BEEN INCURRED AT THE MOMENT.

STAFF DOES ANTICIPATE ADDITIONAL EXPENDITURES IN THE NEXT REPORTING PERIOD FOR, UH, THE PROGRAMS THAT SHOW $0.

ACTUALLY, LET ME GO BACK HERE FOR THE RESULTS.

SO DURING THE TIME COVERED IN THIS TABLE, WE HAVE A RESULT OF 1,301 INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE ASSISTED.

AND OUT OF THAT TOTAL 69 ENTERED INTO SOME SORT OF BRIDGE HOUSING AND 56 INDIVIDUALS ENTERED INTO PERMANENT HOUSING.

NOW THAT WE'VE COVERED, COVERED THE LAST SIX MONTHS, I WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AGGREGATE AMOUNTS FOR THE ALLOCATIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED SINCE JANUARY OF 2020.

IN A FOUR YEAR PERIOD, THE CITY HAS ALLOCATED ABOUT $6.4 MILLION USING MULTIPLE FUNDING SOURCES FOR HOMELESS ASSISTANCE AND HOUSING PROGRAMS. WE HAVE A TOTAL OF ABOUT 5.8 MILLION.

WE HAVE $591,030 TOWARDS QUALITY OF LIFE, UH, CLEANUP EFFORTS AND 22,500 UH, TOWARDS THE EAST COUNTY HOMELESS TASK FORCE.

THESE FUNDING SOURCES INCLUDE LOW AND MODERATE INCOME FUNDS, CDBG, THE GENERAL FUND PLHA FUNDS AND ONE-TIME CDBG CARESS ACT FUNDS.

TOGETHER THESE PROGRAMS HAVE PROVIDED ASSISTANCE TO MORE THAN 8,500 INDIVIDUALS SINCE JANUARY, 2020.

OUT OF THAT TOTAL, MORE THAN 3,500 HAVE BEEN ASSISTED WITH SOME FORM OF BRIDGE HOUSING OR SHELTER, AND OVER 1100 WERE ASSISTED IN TWO PERMANENT HOUSING.

AS A RESULT OF THE DATA PROVIDED TODAY, STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT CITY COUNCIL CONTINUE FUNDING ALL OF THE ACTIVE HOMELESS RELATED PROGRAMS, CONTINUE THE CITY'S FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION TO THE EAST COUNTY HOMELESS TASK FORCE, CONTINUE TO SEEK NEW FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOMELESS RELATED PROGRAMS, AND CONTINUE ITS REGIONAL APPROACH TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS.

THIS SLIDE IS AN APPRECIATION TO ALL OF OUR CURRENT PROGRAM PROVIDERS FOR THEIR HARD WORK AND DEDICATION AND HELPING THE HOMELESS POPULATION HERE IN EL CAJON.

AND THAT ENDS MY PRESENTATION TODAY.

STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

AND WE ALSO HAVE, UH, STAFF AVAILABLE FROM HOMESTAR HERE TODAY.

WELL, THANK YOU.

SAW THAT CORRECTLY, IT WAS 1,301 PEOPLE WERE HELPED, BUT ONLY 56 PEOPLE GOT PERMANENT HOUSING.

THANKS FOR A NICE PRESENTATION.

LEMME SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

MICHELLE.

HI YANI.

THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, GOOD REPORT.

I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

UM, ACCORDING TO YOUR FILES OR ACCORDING TO THE REPORT HERE, IF I

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YES, THAT IS CORRECT.

WHY? I MEAN, WHY ARE THE NUMBERS, SO WHY IS THERE SUCH A DISPARITY BETWEEN THE TWO? SO THERE, IS THERE LACK OF, I'M SORRY, LET ME, LET ME CONTINUE.

SORRY.

IS IT LACK OF HOUSING? IS IT LACK OF WILL FROM THE PEOPLE WANTING TO BE PERMANENTLY HOUSED? WHAT IS 1300? I MEAN, THAT'S A GREAT NUMBER AND WE'VE HELPED A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO PERMANENT HOUSING, 56 PEOPLE OUT OF 1300, WHERE DID THE OTHER, WHAT? 1,250 PEOPLE GO? I DO KNOW THAT, UH, IN THE QUARTERLY REPORTS FROM OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS, SOME OF THAT INFORMATION IS REPORTED BACK TO US.

UM, AND THERE ARE SOME DIFFICULTIES INTO PLACING EVERYBODY INTO PERMANENT HOUSING.

UM, IF IT'S OKAY WITH YOU, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING HOME STARTUP TO MAYBE PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE REASONS.

UM, SO ALSO THE DATA REFLECTS SO WHEN WE ENROLL INTO OUTREACH, THAT'S ANY KIND OF SERVICE FROM FOOD AND WATER RESOURCES, IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY ALWAYS WANT THE PERMANENT HOUSING.

SO WE GUESS OUR FOCUS IS PERMANENT HOUSING, BUT NOT EVERYBODY WANTS IT.

SO THAT DOES ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

SO WHEN WE ENROLL INTO OUR DIFFERENT OUTREACH PROGRAMS, IT'S JUST OUTREACH.

IT'S JUST WATER, FOOD RESOURCES, MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE IN OUR HOMELESS MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEM SO WHEN THEY'RE READY THROUGH PROGRESSIVE ENGAGEMENT, THAT THEY'RE READY FOR PERMANENT HOUSING.

SO ONLY 56 PEOPLE SAID, YEAH, I'LL TAKE PERMANENT HOUSING OUT OF THAT 1300 DID WE HAVE PERMANENT HOUSING AVAILABLE FOR THEM? IF SAY 1200 OUT OF THE 1300 SAID, YES, I'LL TAKE PERMANENT HOUSING.

DO WE HAVE ENOUGH PERMANENT HOUSING FOR THEM? WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH INVENTORY IN THE COUNTY IN GENERAL THAT WOULD BE AFFORDABLE FOR THEM TO SUSTAIN PERMANENT HOUSING.

UM, THROUGH RAPID REHOUSING AND THE NEW PLHA GRANT, WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL RENTAL ASSISTANCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN HAVE ADDITIONAL TIME TO GET, IMPROVE THEIR INCOME SO THEY CAN SUSTAIN THEIR HOUSING, UM, VERSUS JUST THE SECURITY DEPOSIT IN FIRST MONTH'S RENT.

BUT IN GENERAL, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR EVERYONE IN, IN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, THANK YOU ON THAT YANI.

ANOTHER QUESTION IS, WE SPENT A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IN CLEANING UP MM-HMM.

IS THERE ANY WAY THAT, WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO OR WHAT TYPE OF PROGRAMS DO WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO MAYBE EDUCATE SO WE'RE NOT HAVING TO CLEAN UP AFTER THESE ENCAMPMENTS AND NOT HAVING TO, TO DO SO MUCH CLEANING UP? HOW CAN HOW CAN WE SOLVE THAT? HOW CAN WE BRING THAT DOWN? THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY TO SPEND ON CLEANING UP AFTER OTHER PEOPLE.

UH, WE DO HAVE, UM, THROUGH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, A HOT TEAM THAT GOES OUT AND PROVIDES A LOT OF OUTREACH, UM, WITH OUR HOMELESS POPULATION IN EL CAJON AT THE MOMENT.

I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO PROVIDE THAT SORT OF INFORMATION, UH, TO OUR HOMELESS POPULATION.

I KNOW THAT PD ALSO DOES GO OUT WITH PUBLIC WORK STAFF.

MM-HMM.

FOR THIS QUALITY OF LIFE TEAM.

BUT AT THE MOMENT THAT'S, UH, THOSE ARE OUR TWO PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE TO SPREAD THE WORD OUT.

UM, THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR HOMESTART.

UH, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF HOMELESS PEOPLE DO YOU THINK ARE IN THE DATABASE THAT THAT IS BEING USED TO HELP THEM? THAT PROBABLY IS A QUESTION FOR HOMESTART , I'LL CALL IT CORINA.

SO FOR EVERYONE THAT WE DO ENCOUNTER, WE TRY TO PUT 'EM IN OUR HOMELESS MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEM TO PENDING.

SO I CAN SAY IN THE CITY, OVER THE COURSE OF TIME, WE PROBABLY ENROLLED UP TO A THOUSAND PEOPLE FROM THE CITY OF EL CAJON IN OUR HOMELESS MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEM.

UM, IF THEY DON'T CHECK IN WITH US OR WE DON'T SEE THEM, THEY DO AUTO EXIT AFTER 90 DAYS AND THEN WE CAN RE-ENROLL THEM ONCE THEY COME BACK TO US ASKING FOR HELP.

OR WE SEE THEM ON THE STREETS AND THEY WANT THE HELP AGAIN.

DO YOU HAVE A BALLPARK FIGURE FOR ME? I KNOW THIS MAY BE DIFFICULT TO COME UP WITH, BUT, UH, FOR WHAT PERCENTAGE YOU THINK OF ALMOST PEOPLE? DO MOST OF 'EM SAY, NO, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THIS.

OR IS IT 50, IS IT 70% THAT DO NOT WANT SERVICES OR THE HOUSING? 'CAUSE THERE'S, I MEAN FOR US IT'S TWO DIFFERENT COMPONENTS.

BECAUSE THEY'LL SAY YES TO FOOD AND WATER.

WHEN THEY GET THE FOOD AND WATER, DO MOST OF THEM, UH, GET AGREE TO GET INTO THE DATABASE? UH, WE TRY TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO GET INTO THE DATABASE.

BUT NOT NECESSARILY THE HOUSING.

DO THEY AUTOMATICALLY,

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UM, BUT IF NOT, WE DO PROGRESSIVE ENGAGEMENT, LIKE I SAID BEFORE.

AND WE'LL PUT IN LIKE GUY WITH THE RED HAT ON THE CORNER OF AH, SECOND AND MADISON UHHUH AND THEN TRY AGAIN.

UM, THAT'S AT LEAST JUST FOR THE STREET OUTREACH TEAM AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD AS THROUGH RTFH.

WHY DON'T YOU STAY JUST IN GET I JUST IN CASE I HAVE A FEELING WHERE THERE'LL BE MORE QUESTIONS.

THIS ACTUALLY ISN'T FOR YOU, BUT, UM, THIS MIGHT BE MORE HIGH LEVEL.

UH, I SAW A NEWS ARTICLE CIRCULATING ABOUT THE SUPREME COURT TAKING UP THE BOISE DECISION, WHICH, UM, PREVENT THE BOISE DECISION RULING WAS THROUGH THE NINTH CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS THAT SAID THAT CITIES MUNICIPALITIES CANNOT REMOVE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS UNLESS THERE IS AN OPEN BED.

UM, AND THE SUPREME COURT RECENTLY SAID THAT THEY'RE GOING TO RULE ON THAT DECISION AND I THINK THE JUDGMENT IS IN JUNE.

AND SO I GUESS MY QUESTION OR DIRECTION WOULD BE CAN WE MAKE SURE WE ARE ABREAST TO ANY UPDATES WITH THAT? SO WHEN THERE'S A RULING THAT COMES DOWN, WE ARE ABLE TO, UM, CONSUME IT AND SAY, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR US MOVING FORWARD AND KIND OF HAVE SOME KIND OF DECISION OR PLAN IN PLACE, WHICHEVER WAY IT GOES.

'CAUSE IF THE BOISE DECISION IS NOT OVERRULED, THEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN EXISTING, THE EXISTING SCENARIO THAT WE'VE HAD BEFORE WHERE PEOPLE CAN DENY SERVICES.

THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO BE ON THE STREET PER THE LAW.

AND, UM, IT'S VERY CUMBERSOME TO, FOR US TO MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS IF IT'S OVERTURNED, THAT GIVES US SOME LIBERTY TO ENSURE THE SAFETY AND INTEGRITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO THAT MIGHT BE, NOT YANI, BUT MAYBE I'M LOOKING OVER AT OUR CITY MANAGER AND CITY ATTORNEY.

JUST JUST A CLARIFICATION, IT'S NOT THE BOISE DECISION, MARTIN V BOISE.

IT'S UP TO THE BEEN GRANTED, UH, UH, REVIEW.

IT'S THE GRANTS PASS IN OREGON CASE, WHICH IS MORE RECENT.

WHICH IS SIMILAR TO THE BOISE CASE.

THERE, THERE ARE SLIGHT DIFFERENCES TO THAT.

UM, AS A MATTER OF FACT, YOU HAVE SOMEBODY SITTING HERE THAT IS ON OUR LEGAL ADVOCACY COMMITTEE FOR THE LEGAL OF CALIFORNIA CITIES.

AND WE IN THAT COMMITTEE, UM, ARE WATCHING THIS, UH, DECISION THAT THE, THE REVIEW, I WOULD IMAGINE THERE WILL BE, UH, SOME ASSISTANCE COMING FROM THE LEAGUE IN THE, UM, UH, PROVIDING OF AMICUS BRIEFS TO THE SUPREME COURT AND ADDRESSING CERTAIN SITU CERTAIN ISSUES WITH IT.

OBVIOUSLY, UH, THOSE THAT ARE, UH, INVOLVED DIRECTLY AS PARTIES WILL BE HANDLING THE BULK OF THAT KIND OF THING.

BUT ABSOLUTELY, I WILL CONTINUE TO KEEP, UH, MR. MITCHELL, MR. DIMAGGIO ABREAST OF THOSE THINGS AND WHEN THEY'RE, IT'S APPROPRIATE TO PROVIDE REPORTS TO YOU.

I'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT AS WELL.

THANK YOU STEVE.

HI.

UM, I'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE, UM, MOTEL PROGRAM.

SO THERE WERE TWO OF THEM.

THERE WAS THE, UH, MOTEL STAYS PROGRAM AND THEN THE LATEST ONE IS THE SCATTER SITE MOTEL PROGRAM.

CAN YOU TELL ME THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO? SO I WASN'T AT THIS AGENCY WHEN THEY FIRST KICKED OFF THE FIRST HOTEL PROGRAM, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS IN RESPONSE TO COVID TO 19.

UM, AND A LOT OF JUST INDIVIDUALS WHO NEEDED TO ISOLATE, UM, WENT INTO THAT MOTEL PROGRAM.

THE SCATTERED SITE IS AN EMERGENCY SHELTER OPTION THAT BOTH HOMESTART AND EL CAJON DE POLICE DEPARTMENT USE, UM, TO HELP INDIVIDUALS GET OFF THE STREETS WHO ARE WILLING TO WORK TOWARDS A PERMANENT HOUSING PLAN.

AND IT, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S BETTER IF YOU CAN FIND THEM IN A MOTEL, BUT I'M LOOKING AT ABOUT HALF A MILLION DOLLARS ALLOCATED, MAYBE 430,000 LEFT, BUT 270 PERSONS HAVE BEEN SHELTERED.

IS ARE YOU HAVING ANY CHALLENGES WITH PEOPLE AT MOTELS OF ANY KIND? WE DO HAVE CHALLENGES AND WE DO ASK THEM TO EXIT THE PROGRAM IF THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY CASE MANAGEMENT OR HOUSING.

UM, OR IF THEY DEFY ANY OF BOTH THE HOTEL RULES OR RULES THAT WE'VE COME UP THROUGH OUR AGENCY THAT THEY MUST OBEY.

INTO THEIR HOUSING SITUATION THEN THAT ARE SAYING YES TO GETTING OFF THE STREETS? THAT'S WHO WE ARE TRYING TO HELP IN THE SCATTERED SITE.

AND FOLLOW, IT SAYS THE AVERAGE DAY IS LIKE A WEEK, I THINK.

IS THAT TYPICAL? NO.

RIGHT NOW WE ARE ABOUT ABOUT THREE MONTHS, UM, THREE MONTHS.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE'VE HAD MATCHES THROUGH THE COORDINATED ENTRY SYSTEM AND WE'RE WORKING ON EITHER APPEALS FOR THEM TO GET INTO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING OR COLLECTING ALL THE DOCUMENTS NEEDED, UM, TO GET INTO EITHER A RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM OR A PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAM.

WOULD YOU SAY THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE MORE LIKELY TO GET, UH, A STEP UP

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SETTING ASIDE THOSE THAT DON'T WANT DO ANYTHING THAT'S CORRECT, BUT JUST EXIT THE PROGRAM AT SOME POINT.

INTERESTING.

OKAY, WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE YOU ANSWERING ALL THOSE QUESTIONS.

TO FORMERLY HOMELESS PEOPLE IN HIS OWN HOME, UM, TO HELP THEM TRANSITION.

OKAY, ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR, FOR THIS ITEM? WE HAVE NO CARDS FOR THIS, SIR.

ALRIGHT THEN IT'S, UM, BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN RECEIVE THE, UH, SERVICES REPORT IF SOMEBODY'S WILLING TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT.

WELL, MR. MAYOR ALSO SOME JUST GENERAL DIRECTION, IF THIS IS THE RIGHT COURSE YOU WANT US TO KEEP, CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.

IF THERE'S ANY, UH, SHIFTS IN THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE THAT FEEDBACK AND THEN WE CAN BRING THAT BACK.

BUT THAT WOULD BE PART OF, UM, TODAY'S DELIBERATION.

WELL, YOU KNOW, I, I LIKE MICHELLE.

I, I'M, I DISHEARTENED BY THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY WILLING TO GO THROUGH THE STEPS TO GET OFF THE STREET PERMANENTLY.

AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A PROGRAM THAT YOU CAN IMPLEMENT THAT WOULD BE MORE EFFECTIVE THAN THE ONE WE'RE IMPLEMENTING RIGHT NOW.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO, UH, ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT THIS HOMELESS, UH, ISSUE IS, UH, NOT SOMETHING THAT'S EASILY FIXED.

AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE THROWING A LOT OF THINGS AT IT AND, UH, SOME, SOME ARE MORE SUCCESSFUL THAN OTHERS AND, UH, I THINK WE SHOULD BE LOOKING.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS I DIDN'T GET, UH, THE CITY MANAGER WAS A GOOD SENSE OF WHAT PROGRAMS WERE MORE EFFECTIVE THAN OTHERS.

SO IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE, UH, SOME KIND OF REPORT ON WHAT'S WORKING AND WHAT'S NOT.

SO MAYBE IN THE, IN THE FUTURE WE COULD EXPAND PROGRAMS THAT ARE WORKING AND THE ONES THAT ARE NOT, WE COULD DO THAT.

MAYOR, I MEAN, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE THINGS IS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBERS, CLEARLY THE WAY BACK HOME PROGRAM IS THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE.

HOWEVER, NOT EVERYONE CAN PARTICIPATE IN THE, THE WAY BACK HOME PROGRAM 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT FROM MISSISSIPPI, RIGHT? SO, UM, SO SOMETIMES IT'S ALL THERE, THERE ARE EFFECTIVE PROGRAMS, BUT IT'S ALMOST LIKE YOU NEED THE, THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE MENU IN ORDER TO FEED EVERYBODY.

AND SO EVEN THOUGH MAYBE THE SALAD IS ACTUALLY THE CHEAPEST THING ON THE PLATE, UH, THE MEAT IS WHAT'S REALLY GONNA HELP FEED THE PEOPLE.

SO, I MEAN, SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE PROS AND CONS OF THAT, LIKE, UM, THIS COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS.

BUT I THINK THAT'S, WE CAN INCLUDE THAT INFORMATION IN THE NEXT PRESENTATION.

NO, NO, I GET THAT.

OBVIOUSLY THERE'S GONNA BE SOME NICHE KIND OF SITUATIONS THAT, THAT HAVE TO BE PROVIDED THAT WILL BE DIFFERENTLY, UH, DIFFERENT IN THEIR EFFECTIVENESS.

UM, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I THINK I'M LIKE, MOST PEOPLE ARE JUST FRUSTRATED THAT WE CAN'T MAKE MORE TRACTION ON THIS ISSUE WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE'RE SPENDING.

BUT NO, I AGREE.

UM, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S, IT'S A COMPLICATED ISSUE AND IT TOOK US, IT TOOK THIS COMMUNITY DECADES TO GET HERE AND IT'S GONNA TAKE DECADES, UM, TO COMPLETELY SOLVE IT.

AND THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE A HOMELESS POPULATION NO MATTER WHAT.

UM, BUT, UM, MY PERSPECTIVE IS PEOPLE HAVE TO BE HELPED TO BE LIFTED OUT OF THEIR EMOTIONAL POVERTY, THEIR SPIRITUAL POVERTY, AND THEIR MENTAL POVERTY BEFORE THEN THEY CAN PULL THEMSELVES UP OUT OF THEIR PHYSICAL POVERTY.

AND THAT PROCESS IS LONG.

THERE'S TRAUMA AND THERE'S FINANCIAL LITERACY AND, AND DEPRESSION AND, AND ALL THESE THINGS THAT CONTRIBUTED TO BROKEN RELATIONSHIPS THAT CONTRIBUTED TO, TO GETTING THEM THERE.

AND, UM, THAT'S A COMPLICATED ISSUE.

AND IF, IF I, I LIKE WHERE OUR, OUR MONEY IS GOING BECAUSE A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DENYING SERVICES ARE NOT PSYCHOLOGICALLY WELL, AND AS A SMALL CITY, WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO, TO FUND MENTAL HEALTH FOR, FOR ALL THE PEOPLE ON, ON THE STREET.

AND SO WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO OFFER SERVICES TO THE PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE THE, THE BUDGET FOR.

UM, BUT UNTIL, UM, THERE'S SOME CHANGE, UM, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA SEE, UH, A A LARGE DENT IN THIS WHERE FUNDING IS, UM, IS, IS NOT BEING SPENT WISELY, UM, IN, IN OTHER PROGRAMS AND IN OTHER CITIES.

AND, UH, I I'M, I THINK WE'RE DOING THE BEST WE CAN WITH THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE.

AND I, I PUT OUR, I SAY THIS EVERY TIME I PUT OUR EXPERIENCE AS A COUNCIL UP AGAINST ANYBODY'S, MICHELLE AND MYSELF, WE WERE HOMELESS AT ONE POINT.

STEVE BUILDS HOMELESS SHELTERS WITH HIS BARE HANDS, WITH AMICUS.

UM, GARY RENTS HIS ROOMS OUT

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AND BILL'S WORKED WITH, UM, UH, HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS IN, IN A PSYCHOLOGICAL MENTAL HEALTH CAPACITY FOR DECADES.

SO I PUT OUR EXPERIENCE AGAINST ANYBODY IN THE STATE THAT WE UNDERSTAND THIS AND, UM, THIS, THIS ISSUE.

AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA KEEP LOOKING AT WAYS TO MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND HELP PEOPLE ON THE STREET.

, I'D LIKE TO, UM, I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE.

MY THOUGHTS ARE THAT WE CONTINUE WITH THE FUNDING THAT WE HAVE, BUT ALSO CONTINUE TO EXPLORE BETTER METHODS.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER ORTIZ AND I, UM, LAST COUNSEL TWO WEEKS AGO, UH, I HELPED AN ELDERLY MAN WHO WAS PARKED OUTSIDE OF THE POLICE STATION CHARGING UP HIS SCOOTER A WHEELCHAIR.

YEAH, IT'S KIND OF LIKE A WHEELCHAIR.

HE ASKED FOR HELP.

SO WE GOT HIM PLACED AT E-C-T-L-C BECAUSE WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM FOR EMERGENCY SHELTER.

NOW HE'S BEEN THERE TWO WEEKS.

I HAVE BEEN MAKING PHONE CALLS.

UM, I BELIEVE HOMESTART HAS BEEN INVOLVED.

UM, SERENITY HEALTH HAS BEEN INVOLVED.

E-C-T-L-C IS NOT THE PLACEMENT FOR THIS GENTLEMAN.

BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO BE, AS A COUNCIL, WE NEED TO KEEP THAT IN MIND THAT THERE ARE VULNERABLE PEOPLE OUT THERE AND WE NEED TO CONTINUE WITH THIS.

HE'S 78, DEPENDING ON WHEN YOU TALK TO HIM, HE SAYS HE'S 80.

BUT ACCORDING TO HIS BIRTHDATE, HE'S 78.

E-C-T-L-C IS NOT THE PLACE FOR HIM.

HE'S INCONTINENT.

HE NEEDS SUPPLIES.

BUT WHERE ELSE ARE WE GONNA SEND HIM? HE CAME TO US LOOKING FOR HELP.

NOW WE COULD'VE EASILY JUST WALKED PAST HIM AND SAY, OKAY, WELL, SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE GOOD.

YOU'RE CHARGING UP AND, AND WE'LL GO ON HOME TO OUR HOUSE.

'CAUSE IT WAS REALLY COLD.

BUT WE DIDN'T, AND IT'S NOT, I'M NOT SHARING THIS STORY OUT OF OUT, I DON'T NEED ACCOLADES OR ANYTHING, BUT I'M SHARING THE STORY THAT THIS IS A SITUATION THAT HOMESTART AND MANY OTHER OUTREACH PROVIDERS DO COME ACROSS.

THIS IS A SEGMENT OF OUR POPULATION WHO IS BECOMING, WE'RE WE ARE SEEING MORE AND MORE BECOMING HOMELESS.

AND SO I THINK THAT IF WE CONTINUE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO IMPROVE OUR, OUR OUTREACHES, IMPROVE HOW WE ARE HANDLING THESE SPECIAL NICHES, WHETHER IT'S FAMILIES, WHETHER IT'S SENIORS, UH, CHILDREN IN OUR, UH, SCHOOL DISTRICT, WE CAN'T JUST SAY, AH, YEAH, NO, LET'S JUST WASH YOUR HANDS.

WE CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE IT MAY BE YOUR MOM OR DAD THAT FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY'RE NOW ON THE STREET.

UM, IT, IT WAS HEARTBREAKING TO GO AND TALK TO THIS GENTLEMAN AND AFTER A WHILE YOU'RE TRYING TO GET HIM HELP, BUT HE WAS SO FRUSTRATED.

AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE QUESTIONS.

AND THAT'S WHAT I FIND IN WHEN I AM DEALING WITH RESIDENTS BECAUSE I GET PHONE CALLS ALL THE TIME, MICHELLE, I NEED HELP.

AND SO WHAT I DO MOST OF THE TIME IS I JUST HELP THEM MANEUVER THROUGH THE BUREAUCRACIES OF THE GOVERNMENT SYSTEMS. AND SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING AND KEEP LOOKING FORWARD AND TRY AND BE MORE PROACTIVE VERSUS REACTIVE.

AND I KNOW THAT THAT TAKES MONEY AND I KNOW THAT TAKES EFFORT, BUT I THINK THAT IF WE CONTINUE WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING, WE'RE NEVER GONNA SOLVE HOMELESSNESS.

BUT IT'S NOT A CRIME TO BE POOR.

AND IT'S NOT A CRIME TO BE HOMELESS.

WE JUST NEED TO HELP GET OUR NEIGHBORS, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS BACK TO BEING CLEAN AND SAFE.

BUT WE ALSO NEED TO HELP THESE PEOPLE GET OFF.

IF THEY'RE ASKING FOR HELP, WE NEED TO HAVE SERVICES AVAILABLE.

IF THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR HELP, THEN MOVE ON.

BUT IF THESE PEOPLE ARE COMING TO US FOR HELP, THEN WE NEED TO HAVE SERVICES AVAILABLE.

THAT IS WHAT A SOCIETY DOES.

AND IF WE SAY, WELL JUST ROUND THEM UP AND SHIP THEM OUT TO THE DESERT, THAT DOESN'T SOLVE ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY'RE RIGHT HERE.

YES, HE CAME BECAUSE HE SAW OUR VIDEO.

ARE WE GONNA HAVE MORE? POSSIBLY, BUT LET'S JUST TAKE CARE OF IT AND LET'S WORRY ABOUT THE LOGISTICS.

ALL I WANTED HIM FOR THAT NIGHT WAS TO GET INTO A BED, GET A MEAL BECAUSE HE HAD NOT EATEN ALL DAY EXCEPT FOR SOME PROTEIN BARS.

AND HE'S DIABETIC AND GET HIM A HOT CUP OF COFFEE.

'CAUSE HE HAD A VERY THIN BLANKET.

MY SWEATER WAS PROBABLY ABOUT AS HEAVY AS HIS BLANKET.

SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS OLD ON THE STREET WITH JUST A BLANKET.

NOBODY SHOULD LIVE THAT WAY.

NOBODY.

AND WHAT? HE'S GONNA GO GET A JOB.

SO I'M, I'M NOT LECTURING ANYONE,

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WELL, I AGREE WITH THE CITY MANAGER'S ANALYSIS, ESSENTIALLY ONE SIZE DOESN'T FIT ALL.

THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE HOMELESS FOR A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT REASONS.

AND IF YOU'VE SEEN THE VIDEO THAT THE CITY MADE, THERE'S A LOT OF 'EM THAT ARE JUST FINE.

THEY DON'T WANT ANY HELP.

THEY, THEY LIKE THE LIFE THAT THEY LIVE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER ONES.

EACH, ALMOST EVERY ONE IS A UNIQUE CASE AND WHAT THEIR PROBLEMS ARE.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE THE PROBLEMS, THE, THE PROGRAMS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW AND, UH, GET A LITTLE BIT MORE FEEDBACK.

'CAUSE IF, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE DATA, IT'S, IT IS HARD TO MANAGE SOMETHING.

AND SO THERE MAY BE MORE EFFICIENT PROGRAMS MOVE, YOU KNOW, A DOLLAR FROM ONE PROGRAM THAT ISN'T WORKING ALL THAT WELL TO ANOTHER PROGRAM.

BUT, UH, I I THINK WE DON'T WANNA SCUTTLE ANYTHING RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE GET MORE INFORMATION.

UH, COUNCILWOMAN METRO MENTIONED PEOPLE WANT CLEAN AND SAFE STREETS.

I THINK IF YOU ASK PEOPLE IN EL CAJON, WHAT DO THEY EXPECT US TO DO? THEY EXPECT US TO TRY DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS.

THEY EXPECT US TO STAY AT IT.

THEY EXPECT US TO HAVE A CLEAN COMMUNITY, A SAFE COMMUNITY.

SO I THINK WE DO NEED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE SPECIAL ENFORCEMENT UNIT AND THE, UM, PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, ACCORDING TO THE STAFF REPORT, PUBLIC WORKS HAS PICKED UP OVER 2 MILLION POUNDS OF DEBRIS AND OUR CONTRACTORS OVER A MILLION POUNDS OF THE DEBRIS IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS.

THAT'S A LOT.

IT'S A LOT OF STUFF.

SO THANK YOU TO THEM.

UH, I THINK WHAT WOULD HELP IN THIS REPORT, MR. CITY MANAGER, IS TO HAVE COST PER PERSON.

THE RIGHT HAND COLUMN IS 502 INDIVIDUALS CONTACTED FOR OUTREACH SUPPORT.

SO 130,000 SPENT DIVIDED BY 520 IS WHAT, AND THAT HELPS PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE AND HELPS MEASURE EACH AGAINST ANOTHER.

SO THE NEXT TIME WE HAVE AN UPDATE, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION.

UM, I HAVE HEARD OF TWICE NOW THAT OUR POLICE OFFICERS HAVE GONE TO E-C-T-L-C AND HAVE BEEN TURNED AWAY, UH, THAT THEY HAVE TO TAKE SOMEBODY SOMEWHERE ELSE.

I THINK THE PEOPLE OF EL CAJON WOULD SAY, WHY IS E-C-T-L-C THERE TO SERVE OTHER CITIES IF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT IS GETTING REFUSED? THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

SO I WOULD SAY THAT WE NEED TO, UH, ENSURE OUR PARTNERS AT E-C-A-T-L-C ARE NOT TURNING AWAY OUR VERY OWN BEFORE THEY SERVE OTHER CITIES.

AS FAR AS CARE COURT, I THINK IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THIS GREAT HOPE OF SOLVING A LOT OF THINGS WITH THE HOMELESSNESS.

BUT I THINK I READ RECENTLY THERE'S 70 APPLICATIONS COUNTYWIDE THAT HAVE BEEN TURNED IN SINCE LAST OCTOBER.

IT'S A VOLUNTARY PROGRAM.

SO IF THE PERSON DOES NOT WANNA PARTICIPATE AS IMPAIRED AS THEY MAY BE, THEY DON'T HAVE TO PARTICIPATE.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES OF CARE COURT IS IT'S JUST NOT A FIX YET.

I THINK WE'RE DOING A GREAT, A GREAT MIX AND A GREAT SALAD OF SOLUTIONS.

KEEP ON DOING IT.

THAT'S WHAT THE PEOPLE EXPECT US TO DO.

AT THE SAME TIME, THEY WANT CLEAN STREETS.

THEY WANT SAFE STREETS.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND PUBLIC WORKS ARE STILL DOING A GREAT JOB AT.

OKAY, WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UM, ACCEPT THE STAFF REPORT AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, AT THE END OF THE REPORT.

NUMBERS ONE THROUGH SEVEN SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

SEVEN IS A TRAFFIC CALMING REQUEST FOR DOROTHY STREET.

ITEM

[7. Traffic Calming Request for Dorothy Street RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council adopts the next Resolution, in order, to: Establish permanent all-way stop signs on Dorothy Street at the intersections of Bosworth Street and Saddleview Court; Install two speed radar feedback signs along Dorothy Street; Install new roadway striping along the entire length of Dorothy Street from Jamacha Road to the southerly terminus at Shanessey Road to enhance pedestrian and traffic safety; and Determine that the project is exempt from the California Environmental Quality Act in accordance with State CEQA Guidelines section 15301(c).]

I'LL ASK THE STAFF TO TELL US ABOUT THIS.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UM, MARIO SANCHEZ, CITY ENGINEER.

UH, THE FIRST ITEM I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT IS A TRAFFIC CALMING REQUEST FOR DOROTHY STREET.

AND I'M GONNA SPLIT THIS IN, UH, THIS DISCUSSION INTO TWO SEGMENTS, UH, FOR DOROTHY STREET NORTH OF WASHINGTON AND THEN, UH, DOROTHY STREET SOUTH OF WASHINGTON.

AND THE REASON WHY WE'VE GOT, UH, REQUESTS ON BOTH SIDES.

SO, UM, GOING TO THE EXISTING CONDITION, GO, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE VICINITY MAP? OKAY.

UM, THE

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NORTH SIDE OF, UH, NORTHEAST STREET IS A LITTLE OVER ONE QUARTER OF A MILE BETWEEN SHAW ROAD AND WASHINGTON AVENUE.

AND BOSWORTH STREET HAS, UH, IT'S UNCONTROLLED AND, UH, SOUTH OF WASHINGTON AVENUE.

UH, THE RESIDENTIAL STREET OF DOROTHY'S ABOUT, UH, ONE HALF MILE LONG.

AND THEY BOTH HAVE A RESIDENTIAL SPEED LIMIT OF 25 MILES AN HOUR.

THE TRAFFIC VOLUME ON, UH, DOROTHY STREET NORTH OF WASHINGTON IS ROUGHLY ABOUT 850, UH, VEHICLES PER DAY.

AND THAT'S ROUGHLY TYPICAL OF A RESIDENTIAL STREET.

AND THEN SOUTH OF WASHINGTON, IT, THE VOLUME BUMPS UP TO ABOUT 1,560, UH, VEHICLES PER DAY.

AND THE MOST PROBABLE REASON IS, UH, SOUTH OF WASHINGTON.

DOROTHY STREET IS USED AS A BYPASS TO OF, UH, HAMSHAW IN WASHINGTON AS A BYPASS TO GET TO GRANITE HILLS.

SO, AND WE LOOKED AT THE, THE TOTAL ACCIDENT HISTORY OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS, AND THERE WERE ZERO NO ACCIDENTS ON THIS STREET.

AND, UH, WE HAVE A COUPLE SLIDES HERE SHOWING, UH, UH, DOROTHY STREET AT BOSWORTH.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND THEN, UH, DOROTHY STREET SOUTH, UH, OF B OF BOSWORTH STREET.

AND THIS IS ANOTHER, UH, PICTURE OF, UH, DOROTHY STREET SOUTH OF WASHINGTON.

THIS ONE DOESN'T HAVE A CENTER LINE, SO THIS IS WHERE, UH, THE TRAFFIC VOLUME IS A LITTLE BIT MORE INCREASED THAN THE NORTH SIDE OF WASHINGTON.

IT'S JUST BASICALLY WE'RE JUST MODIFYING AN EXISTING FACILITY THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE, UH, CA, UH, STUDIES.

AND THIS IS, UH, DOROTHY STREET AGAIN SOUTH OF, UH, GRANITE HILLS INTERSECTION.

SO AS YOU TRANSITION UP INTO THE HILL TOWARDS, UH, IT'S CALLED SHAUGHNESSY ROAD, UM, I PUT A TABLE TOGETHER JUST TO SHOW A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT OF THE, OF THE, OF THE NUMBER OF SPEEDERS OR THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE TRAVELING ABOVE 1225 MILES AN HOUR.

AND, UH, IF YOU GO ALONG THE FIRST ROW, UM, THAT'S HAW BETWEEN, UH, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, DOROTHY STREET BETWEEN HAW AND WASHINGTON.

AND WE GOT AVERAGE SPEED ABOUT 25, 20 MILES AN HOUR.

AND THEN THE 85TH PERCENTILE SPEED IS WHAT'S, WHAT WE NORMALLY, UH, SET.

OUR SPEED LIMITS IS 24 MILES AN HOUR.

SO IT'S BASICALLY, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFIC, 85% OF THE TRAFFIC IS TRAVELING WITHIN THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT.

AND THE LAST COLUMN IS SHOWING THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES TRAVELING ABOVE 20 MILES, 25 MILES PER HOUR.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE ON THIS, UH, THE LAST ROW FROM GRANITE HILLS TO SHAUGHNESSY ROAD, MORE PEOPLE ARE SPEEDING AS THEY TRAVEL UP THE HILL, GO DOWN THE HILL, YOU'RE GONNA PICK UP SPEED.

AND, UH, AND THEN, UM, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

SO WE TOOK A LOOK AT BOTH SEGMENTS AND, UH, LOOKED AT THE UNCONTROLLED INTERSECTIONS AND SEE WHAT WE COULD DO TO, UH, REMEDY SOME OF THE SPEEDING THAT'S, UH, OCCURRING.

SO, UH, WE CAME UP WITH, UH, PUTTING IN A ALWAYS STOP AT BOSWORTH, AS WELL AS PUTTING IN A FEEDBACK SIGN.

AND THE FEEDBACK SIGN WE USUALLY GET, UM, COMPLIANCE, BETTER COMPLIANCE, UM, UH, STUDIES, UH, DONE BY FHWA HAVE SHOWN A SMALL REDUCTION OF SPEEDS WHEN WE, WITH RADAR FEEDBACK SIGNS FROM TWO TO SEVEN MILES AN HOUR.

AND THEN THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

THEN WE TOOK A LOOK AT WASHINGTON, I'M SORRY, DOROTHY, SOUTH OF WASHINGTON, AND RECOMMENDED TO PUT IN A, A, A FEEDBACK SIGN BETWEEN GRANITE HILLS AND WASHINGTON.

AND AN ALWAYS STOP AT SADDLEVIEW COURT AS TO CAPTURE SOME OF THE SPEEDERS THAT ARE GOING UP AND DOWN THAT HILL TOWARDS SHAUGHNESSY ROAD.

AND THEN ALSO THE PROPOSED, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS IS TO INSTALL.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

TO INSTALL, UH, ROADWAY STRIPING TO, UM, NARROW THE TRAVEL LANES.

AND IT'S A PRACTICE THAT WE'VE DONE HERE FOR PAST, YOU KNOW, DECADE OR SO.

AND, AND, UH, WE'VE SEEN REDUCTIONS OF UP TO FIVE MILES PER HOUR AFTER WE PUT IN THE, THE NARROW STRIPING CENTER, CENTER LINE AND EDGE STRIPES.

SO THIS IS ANOTHER MEASURE THAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO WITH THAT, UM, STAFFER'S RECOMMENDING TO ESTABLISH PERMANENT ALWAYS STOP SIGNS ON DOROTHY STREET AT, UH, BOSWORTH IN SADDLEVIEW COURT.

UH, INSTALL TWO RADAR, TWO SPEED RADAR FEEDBACK SIGNS ALONG DOROTHY STREET, ONE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WASHINGTON, ONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WASHINGTON, AND RETRIP THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF DOROTHY STREET TO NARROW THE LANES TO SLOW DOWN TRAFFIC.

AND ALSO THE LAST, UH, RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THIS PROJECT IS EXEMPT FROM SQA GUIDELINES SECTION UH, 1 5 3 0 1.

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WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

MARK.

ANY QUESTIONS, STEVE? ANY SURVEY OF RESIDENTS TO SEE WHAT THEIR FEEDBACK IS? UH, THERE MIGHT BE SOME SPEAKERS, UH, RESIDENTS HERE.

I'LL, I'LL WAIT FOR THAT.

GO AHEAD.

YEAH, THERE MIGHT BE SOME RESIDENTS, UH, SPEAKING ON THAT.

GREAT.

THANK ON BEHALF.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM MARIO? NO.

JUST WANT TO HEAR FROM THE OKAY, THANKS.

THANKS FOR COMING.

UH, SPEAKER CARDS? YES, SIR.

WE HAVE ONE FOR MR. PAUL GARBA.

WELL, SIR, WELCOME.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I THINK IT'S, UH, THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

WE'RE GOING ON THAT STREET.

I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH FILL ORTIZ.

I APPRECIATE YOU.

I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE NOT A REPRESENTATIVE OF MY DISTRICT, BUT I DEFINITELY RECOMMEND THAT, UH, YOU KEEP ON TOP OF THIS ALSO.

UM, I THINK ANOTHER AREA THAT WE CAN FOCUS ON IS WASHINGTON.

WE JUST HAD A COLLISION, WHAT, TWO WEEKS AGO? I DUNNO IF YOU'VE GOT DATA ON THAT ONE.

SO, BETWEEN FIRST, THE SECOND, SECOND THEY MAGE.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER PROBLEM AREA, BUT I THINK WE'RE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION ON DOROTHY STREET RIGHT NOW AND THE WAY IT'S GOING.

SO IT IS GONNA SLOW DOWN THE DRIVERS.

I THINK I CALLED MARIO ONE NIGHT.

UM, I THINK THAT THING TOPPLE UP AT 52 MILES AN HOUR.

WOW.

SO THEY PUT IN THAT RADAR DETECTOR.

SO THAT'S A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT WE STILL NEED TO LOOK AT THAT AREA CONTINUOUSLY.

BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOU, PHIL, FOR, UH, ACCEPTING MY PHONE CALLS.

DEFINITELY AFTER HOURS.

I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE BUSY, SO, UM, LET'S KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND, UH, I THINK WE STILL NEED TO CONTINUE TO HAVE MORE DILIGENCE ON WASHINGTON.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE MOTOR PULLS OUT.

I NEVER SEE THEM OUT THERE.

I SEE THE OFFICERS RELAXING AT THE, UH, ELKS LODGE.

I, I KNOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE WORKING, THEY GOT A LOT ON THEIR HANDS, BUT WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE.

WE WASHINGTON STREET ALSO.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

WELL, THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO COME OUT.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

MR. PAUL.

CAN, CAN YOU MAKE SURE YOU KEEP US POSTED ON IF IT'S SOLVING THE PROBLEM? OH, ABSOLUTELY.

UH, I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH ALL THE NEIGHBORS.

OBVIOUSLY THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, RESTRAINTS FROM COMING TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.

I KNOW THERE'S AN AUTISTIC CHILD ON MY STREET, SO I'M KIND OF TAKING THE LEAD AND KIND OF BEING THE ADVOCATE FOR MY STREET.

UM, BUT I, IT'S DEFINITELY A CONCERN.

UH, JUST ON MY STREET ALONE, THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT EIGHT OR NINE KIDS PLAYING ON THE DAILY IN THE AFTERNOON.

SO, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO BE A VIGILANTE, BUT SOMETIMES WHEN I SEE A CAR RACING DOWN THAT STREET, I WILL STAND IN FRONT OF THE STREET AND ACTUALLY STAND IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.

IF I GET HIT, I GET HIT.

I UNDERSTAND.

BUT IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, A RISK I'M WILLING TO TAKE.

BUT IT'S AN ONGOING ISSUE.

AND I THINK MARIO, FOR, FOR, UH, RECEIVING MY PHONE CALLS.

I KNOW WE WERE KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD FOR THE LONGEST TIME, BUT, UM, IT'S WHAT, THREE YEARS IN THE MAKING SINCE I MOVED INTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT, UM, I THINK IT'S, IT'S A PROBLEM AREA THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT A LITTLE BIT MORE ALSO.

BUT THANK YOU.

AS LONG AS WE CAN CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD, I THINK WE'RE GONNA GO IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

AND, UM, BUT YEAH, ONCE AGAIN, WASHINGTON IS OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM.

THAT LAST CRASH THAT HAPPENED AROUND 10 O'CLOCK, IT, THEY WOKE ME OUTTA BED 'CAUSE IT WAS PRETTY LOUD.

SO, UM, LET'S CONTINUE THE GOOD WORK AND ME AND YOU'LL BE TALKING.

FANTASTIC.

AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU GUYS DO.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MARIO? UH, HEY, UH, BE READY TO JUMP.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

, THAT'S NOT THE TRAFFIC CALMING THING WE'RE LOOKING FOR TO STAND IN THE MIDDLE.

NO, I MEAN, THINGS NEED TO BE DONE.

I UNDERSTAND.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO BE AN ADVOCATE FOR YOUR STREET.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A REASON WHY I PURCHASED MY HOME IN EL CAJON AND SO I'VE BECOME MORE OF THE, UH, THE, I DIDN'T, UH, I SHOULDN'T SAY IT, BUT ADVOCATE, ADVOCATE FOR MY STREET AND IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING.

YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.

I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.

UM, ANYBODY ELSE? MAYOR AND COUNCIL, REMEMBER, UH, YOU HAD APPROVED A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT TRAFFIC REDUCTION PROGRAM FOR WASHINGTON STREET, SO THAT'S STILL IN THE DESIGN PHASE, BUT THAT SHOULD HAVE SOME, SOME SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS ON THAT ROAD.

DID YOU WANNA COME BACK UP? I HAVEN'T SEEN THE SIGNS POSTED YET.

COME ON UP.

WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU TOO BECAUSE OF THE MICROPHONE.

THEY'RE STILL AT 45, SO I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THE, OF THE POST SIGNS YET SET UP AT 40.

SO I KNOW THAT THAT MOTION WAS MADE WHAT, HOW MANY MONTHS AGO? SO THAT'S GONNA BE FALLING BACK ON PUBLIC WORKS TO GET THAT WORK ORDER A LITTLE BIT FASTER.

I THINK WHAT, WHAT THE CITY MANAGER'S SAYING IS THAT, THAT THE, THEY'RE GONNA PUT A WHOLE PROGRAM TOGETHER AND THEN THEY'LL IMPLEMENT IT.

AND I, I'M SORRY, IT DOES TAKE TIME SOME TIME, BUT WE'LL GET THERE.

ALRIGHT.

THAT HAD AN 85 PERCENTILE OF 34 BECAUSE YOU'RE NOW PUTTING A STOP SIGN IN AND BREAKING THAT UP.

ANOTHER QUESTION FROM MARIO.

OH, YES.

UH, MARIO, CAN YOU COME BACK UP PLEASE? SO, ON THE STRETCH, THAT'S FROM GRANITE HILLS TO SHAUGHNESSY

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DOES IT NO LONGER MAKE IT A 25 MILE AN HOUR LOCAL ROAD? DO YOU HAVE TO INCREASE THE SPEED LIMIT OR, UH, PER, CAN YOU STATE 25 PER THE DEFINITION OF THE CALIFORNIA VEHICLE CODE? IT'S, IT'S A RESIDENTIAL STREET BECAUSE IT'S LESS, THE SEGMENT IS LESS THAN ONE HALF MILE AND IT'S LESS, AND IT'S NO GREATER THAN 40 FEET WIDE.

SO BY ALL CLASSIFICATIONS, BY THE VEHICLE CODE, IT'S A, AS A RESIDENTIAL STREET, SO WE DON'T NEED TO LEGALLY POST THE SPEED LIMIT.

IT'S CALLED THE PRIMA FACIA FACE VALUE SPEED LIMIT.

ANYBODY ELSE FROM MARIO? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MARIO.

I APPRECIATE IT.

ALRIGHT.

ANGELO, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS? NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS NO MORE.

UM, SO IT'S BACK WITH, UH, CITY COUNCIL, THE DISCUSSION OR A MOTION.

I, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION, UM, RECOMMENDED IN THE STAFF REPORT, UH, POINTS ONE THROUGH FIVE SECOND.

ALRIGHT, MOVE.

AND SECOND IT PLEASE VOTE.

EIGHT IS A TRAFFIC COMMENT REQUEST FOR BUSIA STREET.

ITEM

[8. Traffic Calming Request for Bostonia Street RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council adopts the next Resolution, in order, to: Establish permanent all-way stop signs on Bostonia Street at the intersection of Coker Way; Install two-way stop signs on Bluebell Way at Bostonia Street, Navello Street at Bluebell Way, Bluebell Way at Tangerine Street, and Tangerine Street at Coker Way; Install two speed radar feedback signs along Bostonia Street; Install new roadway striping along the entire length of Bostonia Street from Greenfield Drive to Broadway to enhance pedestrian and traffic safety; and Determine that the project is exempt from the California Environmental Quality Act in accordance with State CEQA Guidelines section 15301(c). ]

AND I ASK STAFF TO TELL US ABOUT THIS.

MARIO, YOU'RE BACK.

GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN.

OKAY, LET'S SEE.

THIS REQUEST IS, UH, SIMILAR TO, UH, DOROTHY STREET, BUT THIS IS BOSTONIAN STREET.

UM, IT'S ABOUT A, IT'S ABOUT APPROXIMATELY ONE HALF MILE LONG.

AND, UH, IT'S ON THE NORTHERN SIDE OF THE CITY BETWEEN, UH, GREENFIELD AND BROADWAY.

SO IT'S USUALLY, UH, IT'S USED AT A, AS A BYPASS, UH, FOR, UM, UH, UH, SECOND STREET TO THE, TO THE WEST.

AND, UM, I THINK THIRD STREET TO THE EAST.

AND ROUGHLY WHEN WE DID OUR STUDY, UH, WE MEASURED, THERE WAS ABOUT 700 VEHICLES, 750 VEHICLES PER DAY.

AND, UH, COLLISION HISTORY FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS REVEALED THERE WAS ONE ACCIDENT AT THE INTERSECTION OF GREENFIELD AND BOSTONIAN AT, I THINK IT WAS A BICYCLE RIDER, BUT, UH, ON MID-BLOCK, THERE HAVE BEEN NO COLLISIONS FOR THE PAST THREE YEAR PERIOD.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

I JUST WANNA SHOW A COUPLE OF, UH, PHOTOS OF, UH, BOSTON AT COKER WAY.

IT'S UNCONTROLLED AND, UM, UM, JUST A WIDE OPEN STREET.

THERE'S NO STRIPING.

UH, SO PEOPLE CAN REALLY PICK UP SPEED IF THEY WANT TO GO, UM, FROM, FROM NORTH TO SOUTH.

THE NEXT, UH, SLIDE SHOWS, UH, SAME STREET, UH, SOUTH OF GREENFIELD DRIVE.

NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND THEN THIS IS VIEWING WEST ON COCA WAY AT, UH, BOSTON.

YEAH, THE NEXT SLIDE.

SO WE, WE TOOK A LOOK AT THE, THE REQUESTS CAME IN, UH, TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO WE SET OUT OUR TRAFFIC COUNTERS, UH, ON BASTONIA, BLUE BELTWAY, COKER WAY, AND TANGERINE WAY.

UH, THE THREE LOWER STREETS ON THAT, UM, TABLE ARE PRETTY INDICATIVE OF, OF A, OF A RESIDENTIAL SPEED, UH, RESIDENTIAL ZONE, VERY LOW VOLUME.

UM, BUT BUSIA CARRIES THE BULK OF THE VOLUME AND, UH, A LITTLE OVER 50% ARE TRAVELING IN EXCESS OF 25 MILES AN HOUR.

BUT THE 85TH PERCENTILE SPEED, IF OUR, IF WE WERE TO SET THE SPEED LIMIT, WE WOULD SET IT AT 25.

SO, AND THERE WAS ONE COLLISION, AS I MENTIONED, RIGHT AT, UH, GREENFIELD AND BOSTONIAN STREET.

UM, THERE'S, THERE'S SEVERAL UNCONTROLLED INTERSECTIONS.

SO WE LOOKED AT THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND, UM, SO JUST TO ASSIGN THE RIGHT OF WAY, WE'RE INSTALL SOME STOP SIGNS ON THE MINOR STREET, UH, AS YOU FACE THE MAJOR STREET JUST TO ASSIGN, TO REMIND DRIVERS OF, UH, WHO HAS THE RIGHT OF WAY AS WELL AS COKER WAY.

WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA INSTALL, UH, RECOMMEND TO INSTALL ON ALWAYS STOP OR THREE-WAY, STOP AT THAT T INTERSECTION.

AND THEN AGAIN, UH, AS I MENTIONED THE LAST REPORT, UH, INSTALL TWO ADDITIONAL OR TWO NEW RADAR FEEDBACK SIGNS, UH, TO REMIND DRIVERS THE OF THE 25 MILE PER HOUR ZONE.

AND WITH THESE SIGNS, IT GIVES DRIVERS THE INSTANT FEEDBACK THAT THEY'RE GOING IN EXCESS OF 25 MILES AN HOUR.

AND THEN, UM, I'M NOT SHOWING ON THIS GRAPHIC, BUT ALSO A TRAFFIC CALMING, STRIPING, UH, CENTER LINE WITH, UH, SHOULDER STRIPES AS WELL.

AND, UH, NEXT ONE, AGAIN, THIS IS, I'M SHOWING ANOTHER SLIDE, UH, WHERE WE, THIS IS WINDMILL VIEW WHERE WE'VE, UH, SUCCESSFULLY PUT IN, UH, TRAFFIC CALMING STRIPING TO, TO SLOWER THE SPEEDS

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THERE.

SO, UH, STAFF IS RECOMMENDED TO ESTO ESTABLISH PERMANENT ALWAYS STOP SIGNS AT COKER WAY ON BUSIA.

AND THEN TWO-WAY STOP SIGNS AT BLUEWAY, AT BUSIA NOVELLO AT BLUE BAY BLUE, WAY BLUE, I'M SORRY.

AND BLUE BELL AT TANGERINE STREET AND TANGERINE AT COKER WAY.

AND INSTALLED TWO RADAR FEEDBACK SIGNS ON BOSTONIAN AS WELL AS THE ROADWAY STRIPING.

AND THEN, UH, AGAIN, THIS IS EXEMPT FROM SQL GUIDELINES.

SO, BUT THAT, THAT'S MY REPORT.

UH, COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS? LET'S START WITH MICHELLE.

HI, MARIO.

AYE, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP PLEASE? YES.

YEAH, SO I KNOW THAT AREA.

MY DAUGHTER USED TO LIVE ON NOVELLA TERRACE ACROSS THE STREET, AND I'VE GONE TO SEVERAL PLACES RIGHT THERE OFF, UM, BOSTON AND BLUE BELL.

AND LIKE, ARE WE PUTTING STOP SIGNS ON ACTUALLY ON BOSTON OR JUST AT THE FEEDER STREETS GOING TO BOSTON.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT MY REPORT ON COKER WAY, THERE'S GONNA BE STOP SIGNS ON BO BOSTON, A THROUGHWAY STOP.

OKAY, SO YOU WILL BE STOPPING THE TRAFFIC.

ACTUALLY ON ON BOSTON.

ON BOSTON.

THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED TO, I WASN'T SURE ON THAT BECAUSE I DO KNOW THAT THAT IS A, A THROUGHWAY, I DON'T USE IT AS A THROUGHWAY, BUT I KNOW THAT WHEN I'VE PICKED UP SOMETHING ON BOSTON, THEN I CAN JUST CONTINUE ONTO, UM, THE NEXT ONTO, UM, WHAT IS IT, BROADWAY? MM-HMM.

UM, SO, OKAY.

THAT'S, I JUST NEEDED CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

UM, JUST TO CLARIFY, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A STUPID QUESTION, BUT WHEN YOU SAY NO ACCIDENTS, IS THAT NO ACCIDENTS THAT WERE REPORTED TO, THAT WERE REPORTED? CORRECT.

SO WE DO A THREE YEAR ACCIDENT COLLISION HISTORY FROM OUR RECORDS.

I, WE DIDN'T, I DIDN'T SEE ANY.

JUST ONE AT THE INTERSECTION.

SO THERE COULD BE, HAVE BEEN ACCIDENTS BUT JUST NOT REPORTED CORRECT.

TO PD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? CORRECT.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION.

'CAUSE THERE'S TIMES WHERE THE, THE, THE PUBLIC WILL SAY, NO, SOMEONE HIT ME ON MY STREET LAST YEAR, , YOU KNOW, AND THEY SAY, OH, WELL, IT WASN'T REPORTED.

SO, UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION THAT SURE, WE KNOW THAT IT'S JUST WHAT WAS REPORTED AND WHAT WASN'T REPORTED.

SO THAT'S SUPER HELPFUL.

ANYBODY ELSE? THANKS MARIO.

APPRECIATE IT.

AN ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS? YES, SIR.

WE HAVE TWO SPEAKER CARDS AND IN ADDITION, ONE OF THE SPEAKERS, UH, DELIVERED A LETTER FROM MS. MARLENE YOUNG, UH, IN SUPPORT OF THE REQUEST.

UM, THE FIRST SPEAKER IS FRANK KALINOWSKI.

HI, MR. KALINOWSKI.

WELCOME.

MY NAME IS FRANK KALINOWSKI.

I LIVE ON THE CORNER OF BLUE BELL AND TANGERINE.

I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS OF THE CITY ENGINEER TO ADDRESS THE EXCESSIVE TRAFFIC SPEEDS ON A BOSTONIAN, BUT I DO NOT AGREE WITH THE SECONDARY THAT THE, UH, SECOND RECOMMENDATIONS HE PUT OUT WITH THE ADDITIONAL STOP SIGNS ON THE STREETS OF NOVELLO, TANGERINE AND COKER.

THEY, HIS OWN DATA SHOW THAT NO ONE'S SPEEDING THERE AND THEY'RE JUST IN THEIR LOW TRAFFIC AND HIS OWN, UH, IN HIS OWN WRITE-UP.

MOST DRIVERS ARE TRAVELING WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL SPEED LIMITS, EXCEPT ON BUSIA OR VEHICLES EXCEED THE SPEED LIMIT IN HIS REPORT.

SO I THINK INSTALLING THESE ADDITIONAL TWO-WAY STOP SIGNS ON OTHERWISE QUIET UNCONTROLLED INTERSECTIONS IS JUST OVERKILL.

THEY WILL LIKELY BE NOT APPRECIATED.

WE LIKELY BE IGNORED AND ONLY ADD TO YOUR COSTS.

THE PROBLEM IS BUSIA, AS MICHELLE POINTED OUT.

AND, UH, WE NEED TO KEEP FOCUS ON THE PROBLEM BUSIA THE LITTLE STREETS AROUND IT.

THEY'RE JUST FINE.

ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD.

OTHER THAN THE COST, JUST CURIOUS WHY YOU WOULD BE ADVERSE TO HAVING THE STOP SIGNS UP? THEY'RE NOT NEEDED.

AND IF YOU, IF YOU STAND ON ANY STREET CORNER IN EL CAJON BY A STOP SIGN, NOBODY, 99% OF THE PEOPLE DO NOT COME TO A FULL COMPLETE STOP CALIFORNIA VEHICLE CODE.

THEY JUST ROLL THROUGH AND THEY'RE JUST GONNA ROLL THROUGH.

YOU MIGHT PUT A YIELD SIGN, MAYBE THAT MIGHT BE BETTER, BUT THEY'RE JUST IGNORE IT BECAUSE IT, IT'S GONNA BE A NUISANCE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

YOU KNOW? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

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ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? THE SECOND SPEAKER IS VICKI KALINOWSKI.

HI, MS. KALINOWSKI.

WELCOME.

HELLO, UH, MAYOR AND COUNCIL PEOPLE.

I'M KALINOWSKI.

I LIVE ON BLUE BELL IN TANGERINE, AND DUE TO MANY MISHAPS THAT HAVE OCCURRED TO ME, I ALMOST HAVE BEEN T-BONED SEVERAL TIMES BECAUSE OF THE VISIBILITY.

POOR VISIBILITY IN HIGH SPEED ON BOSTON.

RESULTS IS, UH, I DRAW, UH, FROM MY HOUSE TO MY DESTINATION IS EIGHT TENTHS OF A MILE.

BUT BECAUSE OF THE LAST TIME THAT I WAS ALMOST HIT AND IT WAS CLOSE, THE CAR, THE TRUCK WAS CLOSER TO ME THAN THAT WALL IS.

AND I SWERVED ONTO, UH, AROUND BOSTON SO I COULD AVERT THE, AN ACCIDENT.

UH, SINCE THEN, I GO DOWN TANGERINE TO, UH, GREENFIELD AND GO THROUGH THE SCHOOL ZONE THERE, GO TO THIRD STREET, GO DOWN TO BROADWAY AND GO THROUGH ANOTHER SCHOOL ZONE AND STOP, STOP LIGHTS.

AND THEN I GO ON TO MY DESTINATION, UM, WHERE I NEED TO GO EVERY MORNING.

SO I'M ASKING THAT, UM, THAT THERE'D BE A STOP STOP SIGN ON EITHER COKER WAY OR BLUE BE WHERE PEOPLE HAVE TO STOP SO WE CAN TURN ONTO BUS BASTONIA SAFELY AND SPEED, UH, SPEED LIMIT SIGNS, UH, OF 25 MILES AN HOUR AT THE BEGINNING OF BOSTON IN THE BEGINNING OF, UH, GREENFIELD.

WE DO HAVE A 25 MILE AN HOUR SIGN ON BOSTON, EXCUSE ME, ON BOSTONIAN AND BLUE BILL, BUT NO ONE SEES IT.

THEY GO, THEY'RE DRIVING TOO FAST TO SEE THAT SIGN.

AND MY LIFE IS IMPORTANT AS, AS WELL AS THE OTHER RESIDENTS.

UH, MY NEIGHBORS HAVE ALSO EXPRESSED SIMILAR CONCERNS THAT THAT HAS HAPPENED TO THEM TOO.

THAT BEING NEARLY T-BONED THERE AT BOSTON IN TANGERINE, EXCUSE ME, BASTONIA IN, UH, BLUEBELL OR BOSTON IN, UH, COCO WAY.

THAT'S ALL.

AND THANK YOU.

I WANNA THANK MR UH, SANCHEZ FOR LISTENING AND FOR THE COUNCIL PEOPLE LISTENING, AND I APPRECIATE, UH, JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

SO, UM, THE CITY'S RECOMMENDING THAT WE HAVE A STOP SIGN IN BOSTON AND COKER BLUE BE, AND, UM, BOSTON NOVELLO AT BLUE BE WAY AND BLUEBELL AT TANGERINE STREET AND TANGERINE STREET AT COKER WAY.

YOU ARE YOU GOOD WITH ALL THOSE STOP SIGNS? MY, UH, THE, THAT IS TRUE, UH, BECAUSE I'VE LIVED THERE FOR SO MANY YEARS.

SOMETIMES THERE ARE MANY CARS THAT DO DRIVE FAST ON TANGERINE AND, UH, BUT NOT AS MANY AS, AS YOU WOULD NEED A STOP SIGN THERE.

BUT, UH, THERE ARE CHILDREN THAT ARE IN THE SPECIAL NEEDS CHILDREN ON TANGERINE AND, UM, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

I DON'T GO, I DON'T LIKE TO GO DOWN TO ANINE TO COKER BECAUSE I ALMOST HAVE GOTTEN, UH, UH, HIT HEAD ON BECAUSE PEOPLE DRIVE TOO FAST ARE DRIVING TOO FAST, UH, COKER AND MAKING A SHORT, UH, TURN THERE ONTO TANGERINE.

AND MRS. YOUNG ALSO EXPRESSED TO ME THAT THAT HAS HAPPENED TO HER TOO.

ARE, AND I'M SEEING SPEED LIMIT SIGNS ON THIS GRAPHIC.

LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE? MY ONLY QUESTION WOULD BE MAYBE MARIO, UH, SHE'S REQUESTING 25 MILE PER HOUR SPEED LIMIT SIGNS SOMEWHERE ON BOSTON

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IS THERE SUFFICIENT SIGNAGE ON BOSTONIAN FOR THE SPEED LIMIT? NO.

DOES ARE, ARE WE, IS THIS, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THIS IS BEING ADDRESSED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

WE'LL GET MARIO BACK UP AFTER THE SPEED FIRST.

OKAY, GREAT.

SO, ALRIGHT MA'AM, THANKS SO MUCH FOR COMING.

I APPRECIATE IT.

MARIO, COULD YOU COME BACK UP? YEAH, I, I BELIEVE THERE'S ONE THAT WE PUT IN NO, ACTUALLY TWO, UM, ON BOSTON THAT WE PUT IN, BUT IT COULD, THE LOCATION PROBABLY NEAR THE REC CENTER MIGHT BE OBSCURED BY TREES, BUT WE, WE CAN DOUBLE CHECK.

SO I, I MEAN, I DON'T SEE IT BEING A BIG DEAL TO EITHER PUT ONE UP OR MOVE IT RIGHT? NO, NOT AT ALL.

NO.

SO WE, WELL, YOU THE RADAR FEEDBACK SIGNS, WE'LL HAVE IT, UH, A SPEED LIMIT SIGN ABOVE IT.

AND THEN, UM, THE, YOUR SPEED BELOW IT, IT'S JUST REVIEW THAT, MAKE SURE THAT GOOD SIGNAGE ON GOING BOTH DIRECTIONS BETWEEN GREENFIELD AND BROADWAY.

THANKS MARIO.

SO NO MORE SPEAKER CARDS, RIGHT? NO MORE SPEAKER CARDS, SIR.

SO THE COUNCIL, I LEAVE IT TO YOU.

UM, MARIO, IF YOU COULD COME BACK UP.

SORRY, I'M, I'M READING THE, UM, CHARTS AND THE STAFF REPORT FROM FIELD DATA SERVICE OF ARIZONA WHERE THEY READ THE YES.

THE STUFF.

SO ON TANGERINE THEY SHOW 95 PERCENTILE AT 28, 20 9%, 95% IT DURING PICK ANY ONE OF THE TANGERINES.

YEAH, THE 95TH PERCENTILE.

95TH PERCENTILE.

27 TO 29 MILES PER HOUR.

'CAUSE THERE'S THREE REPORTS, SO I DON'T KNOW.

YEAH, WE LOOK AT THE 85TH PERCENTILE.

I KNOW, I'M, I'M GOING FURTHER THAN THAT.

FURTHER THAN THAT, AND SAYING 95% OF THE PEOPLE DRIVE BETWEEN 27, 29 MILES PER HOUR.

CORRECT.

I'M NOT SEEING THAT AS, AS EXCESSIVE SO FAR ON COKER.

UH, IF WE COULD BRING THAT MAP BACK UP ON COKER, THE 95TH PERCENTILE IS 28 MILES AN HOUR.

I'M NOT SEEING THAT AS EXCESSIVE ON BLUE BELL.

UH, THE SPEEDS ARE 23 TO 24 MILES AN HOUR AT THE 95TH PERCENTILE.

I'M NOT SEEING THAT AS EXCESSIVE ON BOSTONIAN.

THE 95TH PERCENTILE IS 35, 36, AND 37 MILES PER HOUR.

I SEE THAT AS EXCESSIVE.

I TEND TO AGREE WITH THE RESIDENT WHO SAYS, REALLY THE NEED IS FOR THE STOP SIGN AT BLUEBELL AND BOSTON AND COKER AND BOSTON AND TO LEAVE NOVELLA AND BLUEBELL OFF TANGERINE AND BLUEBELL OFF AND TANGERINE AND COKER OFF BECAUSE I'M NOT SEEING EXCESSIVE SPEEDS ON THOSE THINGS.

WHAT'S YOUR FEEDBACK? MY FEEDBACK, UM, WE DID TAKE A LOOK AT BOTH THE INTERSECTIONS AND, UH, TO HAVE TWO SUCCESSIVE ALWAYS STOPS, UH, THE COM THE COMPLIANCE OF PEOPLE STOPPING IS MUCH LESS.

IF YOU DO TWO PEOPLE GONNA HAVE TO START UP ACCELERATE THAN STOP AGAIN, START UP ACCELERATE AND STOP AGAIN.

YOU MIGHT HAVE MORE VIOLATORS OF PEOPLE RUNNING STOP SIGNS, UM, VERSUS JUST USING ONE LOCATION.

AND THEN I LOOKED AT THE COKER WAY AS THE HIGHER VOLUME COMING OFF OF BOSTONIAN, AND THAT'S WHERE I MADE MY, MY, UH, JUDGMENT, MY ENGINEERING JUDGMENT THERE TO, UH, PUT A STOP SIGN THERE, WHICH KIND OF BISECTS THE WHOLE LENGTH OF THE STREET.

BUT PUTTING TWO SUCCESSIVE ALWAYS STOPS.

YOU'RE, YOU'RE PROBABLY, I MEAN, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A HIGH RISK OF VIOLATORS OF PEOPLE JUST BLOWING THROUGH THE STOP SIGN.

OH, AND SO YOU'RE SAYING NOT PUT ONE AT BLUE BELL AND BOSTON YEAH.

ON BOSTON ITSELF.

SO YOU, UH, WHAT I RECOMMEND IS TO PUT A STOP SIGN ON BLUEBELL A TWO-WAY, STOP ON BLUE BELL AND HAVE BOSTONIAN FREE.

AND AS YOU APPROACH COKER A A STOP SIGN ON BOSTON, THAT'S AN ALWAYS STOP, ALWAYS STOP.

OR THREE-WAY STOP.

BUT AT BLUEBELL BOSTONIAN, IT'S A TWO-WAY.

STOP.

BOSTONIAN GOES THROUGH.

AND OKAY.

WHAT, UH, MS. LANSKY WAS SAYING THAT PEOPLE ARE TRAVELING EAST ON COKER AND THEY'RE CUTTING, CUTTING THROUGH AND MAKING A TIGHT TURN ON 10 ONTO TANGERINE.

I I TEND TO AGREE WITH THE RESIDENT TO SAY, I THINK THE OTHER ONES AREN'T JUSTIFIED BY A 23, 24, 27, 28 MILE AN HOUR.

AND I DON'T LIKE TO PUT 'EM IN IF THEY'RE NOT YEAH.

COMPELLING.

UM, LOOKING AT THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHEN I SEE UNCONTROLLED INTERSECTIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, I TRY TO, TO FOR, FOR SAFETY AND JUST ASSIGNING RIGHT OF WAY TO DRIVERS THAT TO STOP ON THE MINOR STREET AND LET THE MAJOR STREET GO THROUGH.

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BUT IF THERE WAS A VEHICLE STOPPED THERE, THEY WOULD THINK TWICE ABOUT CUTTING THAT INTERSECTION.

I AGREE WITH YOU.

THE SPEEDS DON'T SEEM TO SHOW THAT IT'S A PROBLEM FOR MY POINT OF VIEW.

AND IF IT WAS FAST, I TOTALLY AGREE ON BOSTONIAN.

I'VE BEEN DOWN THERE, YOU SAW A PHOTO OF, IN YOUR PRESENTATION OF CARS PARKED ALONG THE STREET, MAKING VISIBILITY VERY TOUGH.

AND IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GET OUT OF THEIR DRIVEWAY OR PULL OUT, UH, OF THE, OF THE BOSTONIAN PARK OR SOMETHING, NO DOUBT SOMEBODY GOING 35, 36, 37 MILES AN HOUR, THAT'S A DANGEROUS SITUATION.

SO I AGREE WITH YOU THERE.

I JUST HAVE AN OPINION.

IT'S OVERREACH ON THE OTHER SPOTS.

OH, ANY OTHER QUESTION, MARIO? OKAY.

THANK YOU SIR.

APPRECIATE IT.

ALRIGHT, UH, BACK WITH CITY COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION.

ANOTHER QUESTION MAYBE FOR MARIO.

SORRY.

IS THERE, NOW THAT WE'VE DONE THE TRAFFIC STUDY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LEGALITY IS FOR NOT GOING WITH THE RECOMMEND.

IS, IS THERE SOME KIND OF LEGAL, UM, EXPOSURE FOR GOING THROUGH IT AND NOT PUTTING A STOP SIGN THERE? UH, NOT REGULARLY IS MR. UH, SANCHEZ SAID THE, THE, UM, PRIMA FASCIA SPEED FOR RESIDENTIAL STREET AND THESE ARE ALL RESIDENTIAL STREETS? YES.

IT'S 25 MILES AN HOUR.

AND SO, UM, THE EFFORT IS TO TRY TO CONTROL TRAFFIC TO FIT WITHIN THAT PRIMA FACIE SPEED.

UM, USING THE, UM, RADAR TYPE OF, UH, ENFORCEMENT WOULD NOT BE ACCEPTABLE IF IT DOESN'T MEET THE, WHATEVER IT IS, IT, THE 90, 75TH PERCENT, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE PERCENT, 80%, 85 PERCENTILE.

SO THAT'S WHY YOU LOOK AT PERCENTILES IS FOR ENFORCEMENT USING RADAR.

IT'S NOT INTENDED, I SUPPOSE, TO, TO USE RADAR IN THESE INTERSECTIONS OR THESE ON THESE STREETS.

SO, OKAY.

ANY OF THE COMMENTS? MARROW? I THINK YOU'RE DONE.

ANY OTHER THOUGHTS? UH, LOOK, YOU KNOW, I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT STEVE'S SAYING AND, UH, I, I DON'T LIKE GOVERNMENT OVERREACH EITHER, BUT I'M NERVOUS ABOUT SECOND GUESSING A TRAFFIC ENGINEER.

SO I, I'D HAVE TO, MY, MY VOTE WOULD BE TO VOTE FOR WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS.

BUT, UM, ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH, UH, BILL, I SHARE YOUR CONCERN.

UH, LIKE I'VE TOLD MY FRIENDS, I DON'T DO MY OWN DENTAL WORK AND I DON'T DO MY OWN ENGINEERING WORK.

THAT'S NOT MY AREA OF EXPERTISE.

SO, UH, MARIO'S TESTIMONY CARRIES GREAT WEIGHT WITH ME.

SO I'LL BE, UH, VOTING, UH, FOR THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

WELL, LET'S, ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING TO SAY? ONCE YOU MAKE THE MOTION, WE'LL SEE HOW IT PLAYS OUT.

UH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

MOTION CARRIES BY A FOUR ONE VOTE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER GOBEL VOTING NO.

ALL RIGHT.

WE, TWO TWO, I'M SORRY.

WE HAVE TWO MORE ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS TO CONSIDER.

ITEM

[9. Homeless Court Program: Clean Plates Memorandum of Understanding RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council authorizes the City Manager to enter into the Homeless Court Program: Clean Plates Memorandum of Understanding. ]

NINE IS FOR THE HOMELESS COURT PROGRAM, CLEAN PLATES.

MOU I'LL ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO TELL US ALL ABOUT THIS.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

THIS AGENDA ITEM IS TO CONSIDER A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING OR AN M-O-M-O-U BETWEEN THE CITY OF EL CAJON, THE COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE, AND THE HOMELESS COURT STEERING COMMITTEE.

IF THE CITY WERE TO ENTER INTO THIS MOU, THE CITY WOULD BE THE FOURTH CITY IN THIS COUNTY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE HOMELESS COURT OR CLEAN PLATES PROGRAM.

WHAT THE CLEAN PLATES PROGRAM ALLOWS THE CITY TO DO IS FRANKLY JUST TO WAIVE PARKING CITATIONS ISSUED TO THOSE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

UNDER THE PROGRAM.

THE CITY WOULD HAVE FULL DISCRETION OF WHETHER IT WISHES TO, UH, FULLY WAIVE THE CITATION, TO NOT WAIVE THE CITATION OR PARTIALLY WAIVE THE CITATION.

BUT IT ALSO REQUIRES THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE PROGRAM TO BE, TO MEET SEVERAL MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS OR CRITERIA, WHICH ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

AND ALSO IN THE MOU I'LL JUST SHARE THREE OF THOSE.

ONE IS THEY CAN'T HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THE PROGRAM BEFORE, SO YOU CAN'T BE A HABITUAL RECEIVER OF, OF CITATIONS AND EXPECT TO HAVE THESE WAIVES EVERY TIME YOU GET ONE CHANCE TO HAVE A CITATION WAIVED.

UM, SECOND, THE INDIVIDUAL MUST

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BE ENROLLED IN A HOMELESS PROGRAM WITH A PRE-APPROVED LIST OF HOMELESS SERVICE PROVIDERS.

UM, HOMESTART IS NOT CURRENTLY ON THAT LIST, BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO GET THEM BACK ON THE LIST.

THEY WERE ON IT YEARS AGO, BUT SINCE WE HAVEN'T OFFERED THIS PROGRAM THAT THERE WAS NO NEED FOR THEM TO BE ON IT, BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO HAVE THEM ON THAT AGAIN.

AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER IS THAT THE INDIVIDUAL MUST BE, MUST HAVE SUBSTANTIALLY OR COMPLETED, OR COMPLETED OR SUBSTANTIALLY COMPLETED A, AN ADDICTION RECOVERY OR A ALCOHOL OR DRUG RECOVERY PROGRAM IF, IF IT'S APPLICABLE.

SO WHAT THIS PROGRAM DOES IS IT REALLY HELPS ALLEVIATE THE FINANCIAL BURDEN FOR THOSE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, THAT, THAT HAVE THIS CITATION SORT OF ON THEIR SHOULDERS, BUT IT ALSO GIVES THE CITY SOME LEVERAGE TO ENCOURAGE THOSE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, TO SEEK SOME ASSISTANCE IN EXCHANGE FOR, UM, ELIMINATING THAT, THAT OBLIGATION OR THAT FINANCIAL OBLIGATION.

UM, LIKE, UH, IN TALKING TO THE OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF ACTIVITY WITH THIS.

WE DON'T ISSUE A LOT OF CITATIONS TO, UM, HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS IN THEIR CARS.

UM, SO WE DON'T SEE THIS BEING AS, UM, BEING A HEAVY BURDEN ON THE CITY.

WE DON'T GET A LOT OF REVENUE FROM PARKING CITATIONS ALSO.

AND SO, BUT IT'S JUST, AGAIN, ONE MORE, UH, ARROW IN, IN OUR, IN OUR ARSENAL.

SO, UM, WITH THAT STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE THE MOU AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU, GRAHAM.

UM, ARE THERE ANY, UH, SPEAKER CARDS ON THE SIDE? NO SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS, SIR.

I, I FORGOT TO ASK ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF GRAHAM? OKAY.

WELL, I'LL LEAVE IT BACK TO CITY COUNCIL, THEN.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, ADOPT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR THE HOMELESS COURT CLEAN PLATES.

MOU SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

ITEM, ITEM 10, IS REGARDING THE EL CAJON ON DEMAND FLEXIBLE FLEET CLEAN MOBILITY OPTIONS.

THE LAST ADMINISTRATIVE

[10. Authorization to Establish “El Cajon On-Demand” Flexible Fleet/Clean Mobility Options Grant Project, Grant Number (MPV23W2A) RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council adopts the next Resolution, in order, to: Authorize the City Manager to execute the Clean Mobility Options (CMO) Pilot Program agreement; and Accept, appropriate, and expend $1.5 million State Funded Clean Mobility Options Grant (MPV23W2A), contingent on award.]

I'LL ASK STAFF TO TELL US ABOUT THIS.

GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN.

UM, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

MARIO SANCHEZ, A CITY ENGINEER.

THIS PRESENTATION IS, IS CALLED, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE FIRST SLIDE, I JUST WANT TO GO OVER THE TITLE.

IT'S CALLED THE EL CAJON ON-DEMAND, FLEXIBLE FLEET CLEAN MOBILITY OPTION GRANT PROJECT.

IT'S A LONG, LONG STATEMENT.

THE CLEAN MOBILITIES OF VOUCHER PILOT PROGRAM IS A STATEWIDE PUBLIC PROGRAM THAT EMPOWERS UNDER-RESOURCED COMMUNITIES TO BETTER UNDERSTAND AND OVERCOME MOBILITY OBSTACLES WITH VOUCHERS OR FUNDS FOR ZERO EMISSION TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS.

CMO IS FUNDED BY THE, UH, CALIFORNIA CLIMATE INVESTMENTS.

IT'S A STATEWIDE INITIATIVE USING CAP AND TRADE FUNDS TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, STRENGTHEN THE ECONOMY, IMPROVE PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT.

AND, UH, SANDAG, UH, AS YOU, AS YOU'RE AWARE, IN 2021 ADOPTED THE REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND THEY ADOPTED A FLEX FLEXIBLE FLEETS, UH, UH, STRATEGIC PLAN TO MAKE THE REGION MORE ACCESSIBLE, EQUITABLE AND ENVIRONMENTALLY, ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY TO, UH, THE REGION.

THEY ESTABLISH COOPERATIVE AGREEMENTS WITH DIFFERENT SERVICE PROVIDERS TO DESIGN, DEPLOY, OPERATE, AND MONITOR ON DEMAND FLEXIBLE FLEETS, AND ALLOW LOCAL AGENCIES TO PIG ABOUT PIGGYBACK ON THESE AGREEMENTS, UH, WE ARE INTENDING TO PIGGYBACK WITH, UH, NOMAD TRANSIT, UH, DOING BUSINESS AS VIA TRANSPORTATION.

I'LL USE THEIR NAMES, UH, INTER INTERCHANGEABLY.

SLIDE FOUR, PLEASE.

SO, BACK IN MARCH OF 2023, THE CITY COLLABORATED WITH NOMAD TRANSIT AND SUBMITTED A APPLICATION, A GRANT APPLICATION FOR, UH, $1.5 MILLION TO FUND A MICROT TRANSIT, UH, PROJECT IN THE CITY.

UH, WE GOT WORD IN OCTOBER, 2023 THAT WE AWARDED A GRANT TO IMPLEMENT THIS, UH, SPECIFIC PROJECT.

AND IF YOU CAN PLAY THE SHORT VIDEO.

UM, I'M PUTTING UP A SLIDE HERE FOR, UH, TO TALK ABOUT VIA, UH, THE PROGRAM THEY PROVIDE IS, UH, RIDER BOOKING TOOL TOOLS, UH, A CELL PHONE APP, UH, AND THEY PLAN ROUTES FOR PEOPLE AS WELL.

SO, UM, AND THEY OPERATE INDEPENDENTLY.

IT'S KIND OF A TURNKEY OPERATION.

UM, AND THEY'VE DONE THIS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES AND ABROAD.

SO, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

I'M GONNA SHOW, UH, GO BACK AND, UH, THIS IS A SHORT VIDEO

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IS THIS PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION? ABSOLUTELY.

IT IS THE FUTURE OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TRANSIT AGENCIES AND MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS IN VALDOSTA, GEORGIA ARE USING ON-DEMAND PUBLIC TRANSIT TO IMPROVE THE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE AND IMPROVING SERVICE WITH APP-DRIVEN CUSTOMER FEEDBACK.

THE OPPORTUNITY HERE IS ABSOLUTELY GIANT FOR ON DEMAND TO FEED INTO THESE REALLY CRITICAL FIRST AND LAST MILE JOURNEYS THAT CAN REALLY MAKE OR BREAK THE TOTAL JOURNEY FOR A COMMUTER.

MY FAMILY AND I, WE USE THE SERVICE ALL THE TIME.

I JUST TAKE MY PHONE OUT, BOOK THE RIDE, AND ON DEMAND IS THERE.

WE WERE ABLE TO REDUCE OUR COSTS BY AT LEAST A THIRD.

IT'S JUST A MORE EFFICIENT MODEL THAN HAVING A SHUTTLE BURNING GAS, DRIVING AROUND IN A CIRCLE.

THEY ARE GREATLY REDUCING THE NUMBER OF SINGLE PERSON VEHICLES ON THE ROAD.

IT HAS BEEN THE MOST SUCCESSFUL EMISSIONS REDUCTION PROJECT IN ALL OF THE DALLAS-FORT WORTH.

METROPLEX ON DEMAND SERVICE JUST CHANGES PEOPLE'S LIVES.

I HOPE IT'S THE FUTURE OF PARATRANSIT.

HONESTLY, IT'S HARD TO HAVE AN EQUAL SOCIAL OPPORTUNITY WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE ON-DEMAND.

TRANSPORTATION.

I USE VIA BECAUSE OF I'M A HALF BLIND AND I CANNOT DRIVE.

I ORDER THE VIA, SO VIA PICK UP IN FRONT OF MY DOOR AND DROP OFF WHERE I SUPPOSED TO GO.

IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE OUR DAUGHTER EXPERIENCE LIFE AS THE 19-YEAR-OLD SHE IS VIA REALLY GIVES HER THAT INDEPENDENCE.

AND OUR SENIORS ARE JUST LOVING IT.

UH, YOU KNOW, IT ALLOWS THEM TO BE SAFER, TO BE ABLE TO GO WHEREVER THEY WANT TO GO.

IT ALLOWS THEM TO BE PRODUCTIVE WAY BEYOND THE YEARS THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DRIVE.

REMIX ENABLES TRANSIT PLANNERS AND TRANSIT AGENCIES TO DRAW IDEAS ON A MAP ABOUT THE TRANSIT SYSTEM AND SHOW THE INSTANT IMPACTS OF CHANGING THE ROUTE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO ACCESS HOSPITALS JOBS.

NUMEROUS OF PEOPLE HAVE GAINED EMPLOYMENT, HAVE ACCESS JUST TO GET TO THE JOB WITH VR.

I THINK WE'VE CERTAINLY GOT THE BEST TECHNOLOGY THAT THE WORLD HAS TO OFFER IN THIS SPACE.

OKAY, NEXT SLIDE.

SO WHEN WE DEVELOPED, UH, THE GRANT APPLICATION, WE WORKED WITH THE NOMAD TRANSIT TO DEVELOP THE SERVICE AREA.

AND THE SERVICE AREA IS SHOWN IN BLUE THERE.

AND, UH, THEY'RE OVERLAPPING THE MTS FIX ROUTE, UH, FIX ROUTE, UH, BUS ROUTES AND ALSO THE TROLLEY.

SO THE INTENT OF THE SERVICE IS TO, UH, TO SERVE OUR, UH, UNDERSERVED ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE COMMUNITIES AND, UM, TO GET 'EM TO THE LAST MILE TO TRANSIT, TO, TO MAKE IT TO THEIR JOBS AND SO FORTH.

SO THE TARGET POPULATION IN THE STAFF REPORTS 71,000.

SO I HAVE IT HERE AS 69,000, SO ROUGHLY 70,000.

AND THEN THERE'S ABOUT 19,000 JOBS IN THE AREA, AND WE ESTIMATED ABOUT 200 RIDERS PER DAY WITH 52,000 HOPEFULLY, UH, ANNUAL RIDERSHIP.

THE FLEET SIZE IS GONNA BE THREE ELECTRIC VEHICLES.

ONE WILL BE WHEELCHAIR ACCESS, UH, UH, ACCESSIBLE.

AND OUR ANNUAL COSTS WITH A GRANT, UH, FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS IS 750 PER YEAR FOR, FOR A TOTAL OF $1.5 MILLION.

SO, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

AND THIS IS, UH, A PRICING, UH, UH, SPREADSHEET FOR YEAR ONE AND YEAR TWO FOR THE, THE TRANSIT, UH, UH, PROVIDER.

UM, SO THERE'S SOME FIXED UP COM FIXED UPFRONT COST, UH, AT THE BEGINNING, BUT IT, IT ROUGHLY COMES DOWN TO ABOUT, UH, $104, UH, FULLY LOADED COST PER VEHICLE HOUR.

AND WE INTEND TO RUN THE SERVICE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM JUST, UH, DURING THE WEEK.

UH, NEXT SLIDE.

SO, OUR SCHEDULE, PROJECT, SCHEDULE, COSTS AND SUSTAINABILITY, THE GRANT WILL FUND, UH, VIA TRANSPORTATION FOR THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF OPERATION.

RIDER RIDERS WILL USE THE SERVICE FREE FOR THE FIRST 30 DAYS OF THE PROGRAM.

AFTER THAT, WE'LL, WE CHARGE AT A FAIR, UH, UH, TWO 50 PER RIDER, WHICH IS THE SAME FOR AN MTS BUS RIDE.

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AND YEAR THREE, WE HOPEFULLY FAIR REVENUES AND OTHER TRANSIT RELATED FUNDING WILL BE USED TO, TO SUSTAIN THE PROGRAM.

IN ADDITION, STAFF WILL PURSUE OTHER GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR, IT'S A FOUR, IT'S A FOUR YEAR PROGRAM.

AND, UM, AND WE ATTEND TO DEPLOY THREE ELECTRIC POWERED VEHICLES, AS I MENTIONED.

HOPEFULLY GET THIS, UH, SERVICE UP BY SUMMER OF THIS YEAR.

SO WITH THAT NEXT SLIDE, WELL WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THIS, UH, AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THE CMO PILOT, UH, PROGRAM AGREEMENT WITH THE STATE AND ACCEPT APPROPRIATE EXPEND $1.5 MILLION FROM THE STATE FUNDING CMO GRANT.

AND THEN AFTER THIS IS SUCCESSFUL, THEN WE'LL ENTER AN AGREEMENT WITH VIA TRANSPORTATION TO GET THE PROJECT GOING.

SO WITH THAT, I, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS.

THANKS.

LEMME SEE, UH, QUESTIONS.

MICHELLE, GO AHEAD.

CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP YES.

OF THE CITY.

SO THESE VANS WILL ONLY BE AVAILABLE WHERE THE BLUE SHADED AREA IS.

THAT'S THEIR PRIMARY FOCUS AREA, BUT THEY CAN DRIVE WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS.

SO WE CAN GO UP TO MY LITTLE FINGER UP THERE AT THE TOP.

SURE, SURE.

I JUST HAVE TO SAY, I THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL IDEA.

YEARS AGO FOR LONG-TERM RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN HERE, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE USED TO HAVE THAT AGREEMENT WITH YELLOW CAB AND I THINK IT WAS LIKE 50 CENTS A TICKET.

AND AS A SINGLE MOM AND HAVING TO GO GET GROCERIES, I DIDN'T WANNA CARRY ALL THOSE GROCERIES HOME.

SO IT WAS GREAT TO BE DROPPED OFF OR AT LEAST WALK TO THE STORE AND THEN PICK UP MY GROCERIES AND GET THAT CAB HOME.

AND YEAH, IT TOOK ME A LITTLE WHILE TO GET HOME 'CAUSE YOU HAD TO CH YOU KNOW, SHOVE THE RIDE.

BUT IT WAS HELPFUL.

AND THERE WE HAVE A LOT OF, UM, SENIORS WHO LIVE IN WHAT I CALL FOOD DESERTS.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE NORTHERN END OF SECOND STREET BEFORE IT TURNS INTO WINTER GARDENS, THAT'S STILL EL CAJON CITY.

THERE'S REALLY NO, UM, GROCERY STORES.

I MEAN, A FULL ON GROCERY STORE.

THE NEAREST ONE WOULD BE, UH, THE WALMART NEIGHBORHOOD MARKET.

AND SO THIS IS GOING TO GIVE OPTIONS TO A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTS WHO HAVE TO CARRY THEIR GROCERIES HOME, HAVE TO, UH, WALK TO DO, YOU KNOW, VARIOUS, UH, TASK GROCERIES ESPECIALLY.

AND I THINK THIS IS A WONDERFUL IDEA.

I'M, I APPRECIATE YOUR REPORT AND I'M EXCITED TO SEE THIS COMING IN, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET A, UM, AN EDUCATION BLURB OUT VIDEO, GET CHRIS INVOLVED IN THIS.

AGAIN, HE'S, HE DOES A WONDERFUL JOB WITH HIM TO LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW.

UM, BECAUSE RIDING THE BUS IS GREAT, BUT LIKE FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, IT WOULD TAKE A REALLY LONG TIME TO GET TO THE GROCERY STORE BECAUSE I LIVE AND BRADLEY AREA.

AND SO YES, THERE'S A BUS ON BRADLEY, BUT I DON'T THINK IT REALLY GETS TO WHERE I NEEDED TO GO.

SO IF I COULDN'T DRIVE, OR SOME OF MY NEIGHBORS WHO ARE ELDERLY, UH, AND THEY'RE GETTING CLOSE TO NOT BEING ABLE TO DRIVE ANYMORE, THIS IS AN OPTION AVAILABLE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BRINGING THAT TO US.

BILL.

UH, SO THE GRANT OF 1.5 WILL FUND THE PROGRAM TOTALLY FOR FREE, OR ARE THEY GONNA, WE'RE GONNA START CHARGING CHARGES? NO, IT'S, IT'S FREE, BUT WE'LL BE COLLECTING FARES AFTER THE FIRST 30 DAYS.

AND THOSE FAIRES GO TO US.

BUT, AND THE COST OF THIS IS THAT ARE, DO WE OWN THE VEHICLES OR DOES THE COMPANY NO, THEY'RE, THEY LEASE THEIR OWN VEHICLES.

THEY LEASE THEIR OWN VEHICLES? YES, THEY DO.

AND THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE THE DRIVERS ARE OUR EMPLOYEES? NO, THEY'RE EMPLOYEES.

THEY'RE OKAY.

SO THEY JUST HAVE A PROGRAM THAT THEY CAN JUST DROP RIGHT HERE? AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE FUNDING FOR IT, YES.

GOT IT.

UM, AND IT SEEMS LIKE OUR ESTIMATED RIDERSHIP PLUS THE $2 AND 50 CENTS AFTER THE 1.5 MILLION RUNS OUT, THERE'S GONNA BE A GAP IN FUNDING.

IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'D BE A GAP.

MM-HMM.

MM-HMM.

UM, AND, UH, AND THERE WE'RE LOOKING FOR MAYBE EXISTING GRANTS.

SO THE CITY ISN'T COMING OUT OF POCKET FOR THAT, RIGHT? CORRECT.

THIS IS A SUPER PROGRAM.

THIS IS SOMETHING I TALK ABOUT AT THE MTS.

WE NEED A FIRST MILE, LAST MILE SOLUTION.

UH, 'CAUSE THAT'S THE HARDEST PART IS GETTING TO THE TROLLEY OR FROM THE TROLLEY.

THREE QUESTIONS.

WHAT ARE THE OPERATING HOURS? UH, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM 7:00 AM TO 7:00 PM YEAH, THAT'S THE INTENT.

AND DOES THE APP KIND OF SAY, UH, 35 MINUTES FROM YOUR DOOR TO WHERE YOU WANT TO GO, OR? YES.

IT'D BE KIND OF LIKE AN UBER TYPE OF APP THAT THEY USE.

UM, THE FAIRES, ARE THEY COLLECTED UP FRONT WHEN THE PERSON BOOKS THE RIDE, OR IS IT UP TO THE DRIVER TO ENFORCE THE FAIR? THAT, I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE HOW THEY COLLECT FAIRES.

SO BEFORE YOU COMMIT TO IT, YOU CAN SAY, OH, IT LOOKS LIKE I'M GONNA TAKE 25 MINUTES TO GET THERE.

THAT'S GREAT.

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IT MIGHT BE THROUGH A CREDIT CARD ON THE APP, BUT, UH, THAT HASN'T BEEN VETTED OUT YET.

MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO, UM, LIKE UBER AND LYFT COMMIT TO PAY BEFORE YOU STEP ON THE BUS.

THAT WAY THE DRIVER NEVER HAS TO WORRY ABOUT FAIR AND CORRECT.

GREAT PRESENTATION.

ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH, I, UH, THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA AND THAT THAT'S THE, THE PROBLEM FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE TO GET DOWN TO THE TROLLEY.

SO IF THEY HAVE A WAY TO DO IT, IT'S INEXPENSIVE.

YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S A WIN-WIN ALL THE WAY AROUND.

I, I, I LIKE THE IDEA OF IT BEING PROVIDED, THE FUNDING BEING PROVIDED FOR .

AND SO, UM, I THINK IF FOR IT TO BE SUCCESSFUL AFTER THAT TWO YEARS, WE'RE GONNA HEAVILY RELY ON THE MARKETING.

UM, SO THERE'S AN INCREASE IN RIDERSHIP.

MAYBE, MAYBE THAT, UH, 200 PER DAY CAN DOUBLE AND THAT GAP IN FUNDING BECOME LESS AND LESS, OF COURSE.

UM, SO I THINK THAT'S GONNA DETERMINE THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM AFTER THE TWO YEARS.

UM, SO THE CITY'S NOT FUNDING A BIG GAP, AND IF THERE'S NO RIDERSHIP, YOU KNOW, THEN IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA BE HELPFUL, BUT IT'S A GRANT.

IT'S GONNA PROVIDE A SERVICE, A NEEDED SERVICE.

UM, SO YEAH.

SEEMS LIKE A GOOD IDEA.

HEY, SPEAKER CARDS? NO SPEAKER CARDS, SIR.

ALRIGHT, BACK TO CITY COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION OR A MOTION.

SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY LIKES IT.

I'LL MOVE THAT.

THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTS THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AS SHOWN IN THE AGENDA REPORT.

ITEM 11 IS MY ACTIVITIES REPORT, WHICH IS AS REPORTED.

ALL RIGHT.

OH, YEAH, I'M SORRY.

UH, WE NEED A QUICK BREAK.

WE'LL BE BACK IN A FEW MINUTES.

SORRY, I FORGOT.

THERE ARE NO COMMISSION REPORTS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

[11. Council Activity Report]

ITEM 12

[12. City Council Assignments RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council approves City Council assignments (as identified in the report) to various boards and commissions representing El Cajon.]

IS A RECOMMENDATION FOR CITY COUNCIL ASSIGNMENTS.

AND, UM, I, I, I'M OPEN FOR DISCUSSION, BUT, UM, I'M KIND OF FEELING LIKE EVERYBODY'S KIND OF ENTRENCHED IN THEIR ASSIGNMENTS AND THEY'RE DOING WELL AND THEY'RE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS.

AND UNLESS ANYBODY HAS AN OBJECTION OR WANT AN ADDITIONAL ASSIGNMENT OR TO BE RELIEVED OF AN ASSIGNMENT, NOW'S THE TIME TO LET ME.

BUT, BUT I'LL BE SAYING NO ABOUT THE RELIEVING PART, , BUT, UM, IF YOU WANT ADDITIONAL WORK, PLEASE, UH, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

NO, THEN, UH, DO WE NEED TO ASK FOR, UM, ACTIVITY OR FOR, UH, SPEAKER CARDS ON THAT ITEM? NO SPEAKER CARDS, SIR.

SO THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO KEEP, UH, ASSIGNMENTS AS THEY ARE.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE, UH, WITH YOUR PERMISSION.

AS REPORTED, MS. MITCHELL

ALRIGHT, UH, NOW ACTIVITY, UH, REPORTS FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS MR. KENDRICK

[14. COUNCILMEMBER GARY KENDRICK METRO Commission/Wastewater JPA; Heartland Communications; Heartland Fire Training JPA.]

AS REPORTED, MR. GOBEL

[13. COUNCILMEMBER STEVE GOBLE MTS (Metropolitan Transit System Board); East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority Board; Chamber of Commerce – Government Affairs Committee; SANDAG – Board of Directors – Alternate; SANDAG Public Safety Committee – Alternate.]

AS REPORTED, MR. ORTIZ

[16. DEPUTY MAYOR PHIL ORTIZ League of California Cities, San Diego Division; East County Economic Development Council; MTS (Metropolitan Transit System Board) – Alternate; East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority Board – Alternate; Chamber of Commerce – Government Affairs Committee – Alternate.]

[15. COUNCILMEMBER MICHELLE METSCHEL Harry Griffen Park Joint Steering Committee; METRO Commission/Wastewater JPA – Alternate; Heartland Communications – Alternate; Heartland Fire Training JPA – Alternate. ]

AS REPORTED, THERE ARE NO JOINT COUNCIL MEMBER REPORTS.

SO GENERAL INFORMATION ITEMS AND NO FIRST READINGS.

ORDINANCE ON TODAY'S AGENDA,

[17. Amendment of Section 2.16.020 of Chapter 10.20 of the El Cajon Municipal Code Regarding Salaries of Councilmembers and Mayor RECOMMENDATION: That Mayor Wells requests the City Clerk to recite the title. An Ordinance Repealing Section 2.16.020 of Chapter 2.16 and Adding a New Section 2.16.020 of Chapter 2.16 of the El Cajon Municipal Code Adjusting Salaries of Councilmembers and Mayor Effective January 1, 2025. The proposed ordinance amendment is not subject to the California Environmental Quality Act (“CEQA”) pursuant to CEQA Guidelines section 15378(b)(5) because the activity is not a “project” since it is an organizational or administrative activity of government that will not result in direct or indirect physical changes in the environment.]

WE HAVE A SECOND READING AND ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

ITEM 17 IS AN AMENDMENT TO CHAPTER 10.20 REGARDING THE SALARIES OF COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR.

I'LL ASK THE CITY CLERK TO READ THE TITLE.

BUT FIRST, ANGELA, ARE ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM? NO SPEAKER CARD, SIR.

AND THE TITLE READS AN ORDINANCE REPEALING SECTION 2.1, 6.020 OF CHAPTER 2.16, AND ADDING A NEW SECTION 2.6 0.020 OF CHAPTER 2.16 OF THE EL CAJON MUNICIPAL CODE, ADJUSTING SALARIES OF COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR, EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2025.

I'M, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE.

THREE ITEMS. UH, ITEM 1818, I'M SORRY.

WE'RE

[23. CLOSED SESSIONS:]

NOW AT CLOSED SESSION.

I'LL ASK OUR CITY ATTORNEY TO RECITE THE TITLES AND LEAD US INTO THE CLOSED SESSION.

THANK YOU, MADAM.

THE CITY COUNCIL'S GOING TO MEET IN CLOSED SESSION ON FOUR ITEMS,

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IT'S A CLOSED SESSION FOR CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL ON EXISTING LITIGATION PURSUANT TO PARAGRAPH WARN OF SUBDIVISION D OF GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 5 6 0.9.

IT'S A WORKERS' COMP CASE INVOLVING BRANDON FARLEY VERSUS THE CITY OF EL CAJON.

UH, I, ITEM 19 IS A CLOSED SESSION FOR CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATORS PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 5 6 0.8.

THE PROPERTY IS 4 0 5 EAST LEXINGTON AVENUE.

THE NEGOTIATING PARTY IS THE, I'M GONNA DO THIS AGAIN, I'M GONNA TRY CENTRO DE DERO INC.

UH, AS THE SELLER AND THE BUYER IS THE CITY.

UH, CITY'S NEGOTIATORS ARE THE CITY MANAGER, CITY ASSISTANT, CITY MANAGER, AND CITY ATTORNEY.

AND UNDER NEGOTIATION WOULD BE PRICE AND TERMS FOR PAYMENT OR ACQUI FOR ACQUISITION.

ITEM 20 IS FOR THE SAME PROPERTY UNDER 5 4 9 5 6 0.8, UH, TO GIVE, UM, UH, DIRECTION TO THE REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATORS INVOLVING THE SAME PROPERTY, BUT WITH THE SAN DIEGO CHALDEAN COMMUNITY COUNCIL AS A POSSIBLE TENANT.

IF THE CITY OBVIOUSLY APPROVES THE ACQUISITION UNDER 19, UNDER NEGOTIATION WOULD BE THE PRICE AND TERMS FOR PAYMENT OF THE LEASE OF THE PROPERTY.

NOW MAYOR WELLS HAS, UH, AN ANNOUNCEMENT HE MUST MAKE AND WILL BE DISQUALIFIED FROM ITEMS 19 AND 20.

YEAH, DUE TO A PERSONAL BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP I HAVE WITH SAN YSIDRO HEALTH, I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS FOR THE, UH, PROPERTY.

ALRIGHT.

UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THEN TO ADJOURN THE TO, UH, CLOSE SESSION.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'LL BE BACK QUICKLY TO FINISH THE MEETING.

ALRIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE BACK FROM CLOSED SESSION.

I'LL ASK, UH, OUR ATTORNEY TO TELL US, UH, WHAT HAPPENED AT CLOSED SESSION.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

ITEM 18, IT WAS A CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL FOR EXISTING LITIGATION.

THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED A TENTATIVE OF SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT CONDITIONED UPON APPROVAL OF THE, UH, SETTLEMENT DOCUMENTS BY BOTH PARTIES ON ITEM 19, UH, WITH A CONFERENCE WITH THE REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATORS FOR THE ACQUISITION OF THE BUILDING AT, UH, AT PROPERTY AT 4 0 5 EAST LEXINGTON AVENUE.

THE COUNCIL GAVE, UH, THE NEGOTIATORS DIRECTION TO ALLOW THE CLOSE OF ESCROW, UH, UNDER THE AGREE EXISTING AGREEMENT.

AND ITEM 20, UH, CLOSED SESSION FOR, UH, UH, NEGOTIATIONS OF A LEASE WITH, UH, THE IDENTIFIED PARTY, THE SAN DIEGO GALENA COMMUNITY COUNCIL, FOLLOWING CLOSE OF ESCROW, UH, DIRECTION WAS GIVEN TO THE CITY MANAGER.