Nov 14, 2023 City Council Meeting 3pm

ABLE TO GET, UM, A SMART AND FINAL TO DONATE 8,000 POUNDS OF FOOD, UM, AND 19,000 POUNDS FROM TRADER JOE'S.

UM, WELL, IT'S A REALLY LARGE PROPERTY AND, UM, I KNOW THAT PATRICK HAD WORKED WITH THEM, UM, ON, UM, CHANGING FROM HAVING DUMPSTERS TO YOU WANTED OKAY.

, I, I THREW ME OFF FOR YOU.

NOT, SORRY.

THAT'S OKAY.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UM, MELODY MOBILE ESTATES IS A, A MOBILE HOME PARK HERE, A STATE PARK HERE IN THE CITY OF EL CAJON WITH, UH, 52 UNITS.

AND PREVIOUSLY ALL THEIR SERVICES, UH, WERE BASICALLY ALL JUST DUMPSTERS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LOT.

UM, AND SO WE WORKED HAND IN HAND WITH THEM TO SEE WHAT WE COULD DO TO INCREASE THEIR DIVERSION, LOWER THEIR RATES, UH, AND LOWER THEIR TRASH BILL.

SO ULTIMATELY WHAT HAPPENED IS, IS WE NOTICED THAT, UM, PREVIOUSLY THEY WERE PAYING ABOUT $3,100 A MONTH FOR TRASH SERVICE WITH ABOUT 20% DIVERSION.

BASICALLY, EVERYTHING WAS GOING INTO THE TRASH DUMPSTER, UH, AND A LOT OF ILLEGAL DUMPING GOING ON BECAUSE OF DUMPSTERS AT THE FRONT OF THE PROPERTY.

THEY OBVIOUSLY WANTED TO CHANGE ALL THAT, SAVE SOME MONEY, AND INCREASE OUR DIVERSION, UH, IN THE CITY.

SO WE DEVISED A WAY TO, TO ACTUALLY TAKE AWAY ALL THE DUMPSTERS.

WE WERE ABLE TO GET OUR TRUCKS INSIDE OF THE FACILITY AND GIVE EVERYONE THEIR OWN TRASH CAN, RECYCLE CAN, AND, UH, AND ORGANICS SO THEY CAN NOT ONLY COMPLY, BUT REALLY PARTICIPATE, UM, WITH ALL THE EDUCATION WE GAVE THEM.

AND LITERALLY WITHIN JUST A MATTER OF A COUPLE OF MONTHS, THEY, THEY'RE, THEY INCREASED THEIR, UM, THEIR PERCENTAGE UP TO 60%.

UH, THEY LOWERED THEIR BILL BY $2,000 A MONTH.

UH, AND AS YOU CAN SEE NOW, THEY WERE GOING FROM 90 CUBIC YARDS A WEEK APPROXIMATELY.

UH, THEY'RE DOWN TO 69.6 CUBIC YARDS A WEEK.

AND IT'S JUST, IT'S A, IT'S A SUCCESS STORY TREMENDOUSLY.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE SO HAPPY, OBVIOUSLY SAVING THE MONEY, BUT, UM, THEY'RE VERY PROUD OF THEIR EFFORTS, UH, AND THEIR RECYCLE EFFORTS.

SO UNFORTUNATELY, UH, THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO ATTEND TODAY, BUT WE DO HAVE A CERTIFICATE FOR THEM, WHICH I WILL PRESENT THEM LATER ON.

WONDERFUL.

THAT'S A GREAT SUCCESS STORY.

UM, IF I COULD HAVE SUSAN, UM, NALIN, THE DIRECTOR OF GOOD SHEPHERD MINISTRY AND ERIC DHAM, UM, SCHMIDT, UM, UP TO THE BOARD TO, UH, RECEIVE THEIR, UM, AWARD.

COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, CITY STAFF HAD THE OPPORTUNITY WITH CAL RECYCLE AND SOLANA CENTER AND EDCO TO VISIT, UM, UM, THEIR ORGANIZATION.

AND WE, UM, WANNA RECOGNIZE THEM BECAUSE NOT ONLY, UM, DO THEY PROCURE FOOD, THEY GIVE IT TO PEOPLE WHO IT'S IN NEED.

AND, UM, INSTEAD OF IT GOING TO THE LANDFILL, UM, THEY'RE GIVING IT TO, UM, THE COMMUNITY.

SO, UM, JUST LAST YEAR FROM JANUARY OR THIS YEAR, JANUARY TO SEPTEMBER, 2023, UM, THEY WERE

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THEY ALSO, WITH A FARM, UM, TO DONATE MILK.

UM, THEY RECENTLY, UM, JUST CONSTRUCTED A CHICKEN COOP.

UM, AND THEY FEED OVER 200 FAMILIES EVERY SATURDAY.

UM, THE THING THAT REALLY STUCK OUT TO ME WHEN I WENT THERE WAS THEY LIKE TO SET UP THE FOOD PANTRY AS IN LIKE A SHOPPING, UM, STYLE, UM, MARKET, AND THEY EVEN PROVIDE SHOPPERS TO SHOP WITH, UM, THE, THE PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY.

ANOTHER GREAT THING THAT REALLY STOOD OUT TO ME ABOUT THE BETHLEHEM FOOD PANTRY WAS, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY FOR DRIVE-THROUGH.

UM, THIS IS MADE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE, UM, MOBILE NEEDS, OR, UM, ALSO HAVE CHILDREN IN THE CAR WHERE MAYBE THEY CAN'T GET OUT AND GO SHOPPING.

UM, SO THERE'S, UH, THAT PICTURE SHOWS A BUNCH OF, UH, SHOPPING BAGS FOR PEOPLE THAT GO THROUGH THE DRIVE THROUGH.

UM, THEY ALSO HAVE A CLOTHING, UH, WHERE THEY DONATE, UM, CLOTHING TO PEOPLE EVERY SATURDAY, UM, AND A DIAPER PROGRAM FOR, UM, CHILDREN AND FOR ADULTS.

UM, THEY ALSO WORK, UM, WITH, UM, THE SAN DIEGO HUMANE SOCIETY FOR DONATIONS FOR PET FOOD.

SO WHEN PEOPLE COME THROUGH, THEY CAN ALSO RECEIVE PET FOOD.

RECENTLY, THEY JUST, UM, CONSTRUCTED A COMMUNITY GARDEN.

AND SO NOT ONLY ARE THEY PRODUCING THESE FRUITS, THEY'RE SHOWING PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, HOW TO, UM, HOW TO GROW THEIR OWN GARDEN AND MAKE THEIR OWN FRUITS AND VEGETABLES.

SO WITH THAT, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT, UM, THE AWARD TO, UM, THE BETHLEHEM FOOD PANTRY.

NO, I JUST WANTED TO TELL SUSAN, UM, THAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING A WONDERFUL PROGRAM OVER THERE.

BETHLEHEM FOOD PANTRY STARTED OUT JUST GIVING OUT LEFTOVER BAGELS AND DONUTS AND CAKES WAY BACK IN THE EIGHTIES.

AND I HAVE SEEN BETHLEHEM, UM, TRANSPIRE FROM, YOU KNOW, GWEN JOHNSON AND, AND THOSE JUST GIVING IT OUT AFTER CHURCH.

WE'D GO AND GET BAKERY GOODS TO NOW YOU HAVE THIS FULL-FLEDGED PROGRAM, AND I KNOW THAT YOU AND I TALK FREQUENTLY, AND I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN THE COMMUNITY, BECAUSE THAT IS SOMEWHAT OF A FOOD DESERT, UH, IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.

AND I'M VERY APPRECIATIVE THAT YOU WERE ABLE TO TAKE A CHURCH THAT WASN'T THRIVING AND TURN IT INTO A CENTER THAT DOES PROVIDE A LOT OF SERVICES, KIND OF ON THE DOWN LOW.

UM, BUT FOR 200 FAMILIES IS A LOT, AND I KNOW MONICA'S BEEN AT THAT CHURCH WHEN, UH, WE WERE ATTENDING THERE.

AND SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WHAT YOU DO FOR THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU EDCO FOR STEPPING UP AND RECOGNIZING THESE PEOPLE.

IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE BRING OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR PARTNERS TOGETHER.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN.

OH, UH, I DO HAVE A COMMENT ALSO, THERE'S NOTHING MORE NOBLE THAN GIVING FOOD TO HUNGRY PEOPLE, SO I REALLY COMMEND YOU AND ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WORK WITH YOU.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

AND EDCO IS A VERY GOOD CORPORATE CITIZEN.

THEY PROVE IT AGAIN AND AGAIN.

WELL, THANK YOU'ALL SO MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD PHOTO TO SHOW YOU.

NEXT IS A PRESENTATION FOR BOSTONIAN DAY AND COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

I WILL ASK, UH, FRANK CARSON TO COME ON UP, AND HERE HE IS.

ALL RIGHT.

GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNSEL.

UH, WE WERE ASKED AT THE LAST MEETING TO DO A BRIEF PRESENTATION ABOUT CAPPING OFF HUNT FEST.

SO HERE'S SOME HIGHLIGHTS ABOUT HAUNT FEST.

UH, WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED OVER 33,000 ATTENDING.

UM, WE HAD OVER FOUR OH PEOPLE ON THE ROCK WALL, AND THAT WAS HUMMING OVER THERE NEXT TO THE H AND MAZE.

UH, WE HAD LIVE ENTERTAINMENT ON TWO STAGES, AND IT WAS CONSTANT ENTERTAINMENT.

IT WASN'T A SCHEDULED TIME.

THEY, ONCE ONE BAND GOT OFF THAT ANOTHER BAND CAME ON.

AND I REALLY LIKED THE FORMAT, HOW OUR DOWNTOWN OAKHAM BUSINESS PARTNERS DID THAT.

THE PRESCOTT PROMENADE, WE HAD OVER 12,000 FREE GAMES, PLAYED OVER 4,000 ARTS AND CRAFTS PROJECTS COMPLETED.

UH, 164 PEOPLE COMPETED IN THE COSTUME CONTEST.

MANY OF YOU WERE JUDGES.

UH, WE HAD FOUR STILT WALKERS.

I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS A, A FUNNY STATISTIC THAT'S, I THREW THAT IN THERE.

AND WE HAD OVER 30,000 PIECES OF CANDY DISTRIBUTED.

UM, THE PHOTO THERE IS, UH, OF OUR MAIN STREET AND WAS CAPTURED BY ONE OF THE CAMERAS.

UH,

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IT WAS DEFINITELY A BUSY DAY.

I DIDN'T ACTUALLY EXPECT THE ATTENDANCE NUMBERS TO BE AS HIGH AT THE START AS THEY WERE THE FIRST TWO HOURS, BECAUSE IT WAS A HOT DAY.

IT WAS 95 DEGREES, BUT PEOPLE WERE EXCITED TO COME OUT FOR HALLOWEEN.

I GUESS I, I, I CAN'T EXPLAIN IT, BUT IT WAS, UH, IT WAS VERY MUCH ONE OF OUR, OUR BEST EVENTS, AND I WAS VERY COMPLIMENTARY OF OUR STAFF FROM ALL DEPARTMENTS, PUBLIC WORKS, POLICE, FIRE, EVERYBODY.

THAT'S, UH, THAT HELD A, A LARGE CONTINGENT WITH THAT.

UM, A LOT OF STAFF PLAYED A LARGE ROLE IN THIS SUCCESS, SO INCLUDING COUNSEL BEING PRESENT AT THE EVENT AND ACTING AS JUDGES ALSO.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

I'M GONNA HIGHLIGHT A FEW MORE.

UM, THIS ONE WAS AN INVITE ONLY VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITY OUT BOSTON BOSTONIAN ON SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 4TH.

UM, THIS WAS A REBOOT.

WE HAD A KABOOM PLAYGROUND PUT IN HERE 10 YEARS AGO, AND ALMOST 10 YEARS TO THE DAY WE RE RE REFRESHED THE AREA.

SO WE DID A LOT OF PAINTING PROJECTS.

AND EARLIER IN THE WEEK, OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT CREWS, THEY DEMOED OUR ELEVATED GARDENS SO WE COULD ACTUALLY WORK WITH THE VOLUNTEERS AND INSTALL A NEW ELEVATED GARDEN AREA.

UM, THE AMERICAN LEGION POST 3 0 3 WAS OUR COLLABORATOR, NOT PARTNER, BUT OUR COLLABORATOR, UH, AT THE KABOOM IN 2013.

AND SO WE INVITED THEM TO COME BACK AND BE A PART OF THAT.

UH, THEY HAD ABOUT 10 PEOPLE FROM, UM, THE AMERICAN LEGION COME AND HELP SCRAPE DOWN SOME OF THE PAINTED AREAS, HELP PUT TOGETHER THE ELEVATED GARDENS.

UM, THEY LIKED TO MAKE FUN OF ME AND A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE A LOT.

SO THAT WAS ENTERTAINMENT FOR, FOR THEM.

UM, AND THEN WITH THE WOOD WE GOT FROM HOME DEPOT, SOME WERE LIKE EIGHT FOOT LONG, SOME WERE LIKE EIGHT FEET AND AN INCH.

AND I WAS LIKE, I DIDN'T CUT THIS WOOD.

IT CAME LIKE THIS.

BUT THEY WERE POINTING OUT ALL THE SMALL INACCURACIES, WHICH WAS SOMEWHAT FUN.

UM, THIS IS THE COMPLETED PROJECT ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.

SO WE HAVE THREE EIGHT FOOT BY THREE FOOT ELEVATED GARDENS AT BOSTONIAN PARK.

UH, AND LARRY, OUR, OUR TRANSITION SUPERVISOR OVER THERE, UH, HE TOOK A GREAT PRIDE IN SEEING ALL THIS PUT TOGETHER THAT DAY.

HE'S VERY EXCITED ABOUT MAINTAINING THAT AREA.

AND THAT WAS A LOT OF THE POINT WAS TO HAVE A COUPLE OF THE STAFF THAT WORKED THERE, PLUS THE VOLUNTEERS PUT IT ALL TOGETHER TO HAVE THAT OWNERSHIP OF THAT SITE EVERY DAY.

HERE'S THE COMPLETED AREA OF THE THREE ELEVATED GARDENS.

OVER THERE ON THE FAR LEFT IS AN ARTICHOKE PLANT, SO IT NEEDS A LOT OF SPACE, IF YOU'RE WONDERING WHAT THAT IS.

BUT ALL, ALL IN ALL, WE'RE REALLY HAPPY WITH HOW THAT AREA TURNED OUT.

UH, WE DID SOME YOUTH PAINTING PROJECTS THAT USED, THAT CAME TO THE PARK, OR THAT WE ASKED TO COME TO THE PARK, AND WE, WE HUNG UP THEIR ARTWORK ALONG THE CHAIN LINK FENCE RIGHT THERE IN THE FRONT.

WHENEVER YOU DO THOSE BASIC PUBLIC ART PIECES LIKE THAT, AND THEY MAY LAST JUST TWO OR THREE YEARS, BUT IT GUESS THOSE PEOPLE TO COME, WANNA COME BACK TO THE PARK TO SEE THEIR PUBLIC ART, BUT ALSO HAVE OWNERSHIP OF THAT, THAT SITE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE ALSO INCORPORATE THAT.

UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, ON SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 11TH, WE HAD VETERANS DAY HERE FEATURED IS LOUIS BEZANT.

HE IS THE ELCO VETERAN THE YEAR HE IS ALSO WORKING FOR THE EAST TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER.

UH, HE WAS RECOGNIZED AS VETERAN OF THE YEAR BECAUSE OF HIS WORK WITH THEM HAVING BEEN HOMELESS AT ONE TIME, BUT NOW ALSO SERVING AS A PASTOR WITHIN THE E-C-T-L-C GROUP.

UH, SO IT WAS A REALLY FUN DAY WORKING WITH, AGAIN, THE, THE VETERANS.

UM, THIS LAST SATURDAY, UM, WE HAD ABOUT 200 PEOPLE, AND THAT'S ABOUT AVERAGE AT THE VETERAN'S DAY EVENT, BUT IT WAS VERY WELL RECEIVED BY ALL, AND IT WAS NICE TO ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, THE, THE VETERAN OF THE YEAR RECEIVE IT THERE, RECEIVE THE RECOGNITION BY EVERYBODY.

UM, WE'VE BEEN HOSTING A NUMBER OF PUBLIC INPUT SESSIONS RECENTLY.

SO ALL OF THESE ARE THE DATES THAT WE'VE HELD A LOT OF THESE PUBLIC INPUT SESSIONS.

THE REASON WHY WE'RE DOING THIS AS A PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS WE ARE IN THE PATH TO COMPLETE ACCREDITATION.

THAT'S, THAT'S OUR TARGET GOAL.

UH, AND PART OF THAT IS COMING UP WITH A PARKS MASTER PLAN, WHICH WOULD EVENTUALLY BE ADOPTED BY CITY COUNCIL.

WHEN YOU DO THAT, YOU HAVE TO GET PUBLIC INPUT IN A VARIETY OF WAYS.

SO SOME OF THESE WERE ACTUALLY ON WEEKENDS, SATURDAYS, SOME WERE ON NIGHTS, SOME WERE WEEKDAYS JUST TARGETING ALL AGES, ALL AUDIENCES.

UH, I PLANNED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL EITHER IN DECEMBER OR THE FIRST JANUARY MEETING TO PRESENT THE PARKS MASTER PLAN FROM THESE PUBLIC INPUT SESSIONS.

BUT I WANTED TO MAKE YOU AWARE THAT WE HAVE BEEN HOSTING THESE, UH, THE ONE AT HAUNT FEST.

WE HAD VOLUNTEERS ACTUALLY SIT DOWN WITH PEOPLE AND COMPLETE THE 16TH QUESTION, UM, EVALUATION FOR ALL OF THAT TOO.

UM, SO FAR, UH, WE HAVE 173 RESPONSES, WHICH IS SMALL, BUT THESE WERE QUALITATIVE.

UH, ONE-ON-ONE INTERVIEWS WHERE PEOPLE WOULD SIT DOWN WITH STAFF OR COMPLETE IT, AND WE WOULD GO BACK AND FORTH WITH THEM.

SO 73% OF THE RESPONDENTS DO LIVE IN EL CAJON.

THAT'S, THAT'S, AND WE, WE ACTUALLY WENT TO ELCON SITES, SO WE MADE SURE OF THAT.

UM, THE POSITIVES, THE HIGHEST RANKINGS WE GOT WERE FRIENDLY STAFF,

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VARIETY OF PROGRAMS, AFFORDABLE ACTIVITIES, AND THE WEAKNESSES PEOPLE RECOGNIZE WERE CLEANLINESS OF PARKS AND PARK SECURITY.

UM, OVER 75% OF RESPONDERS HAVE CHILDREN UNDER 18.

SO THAT WAS, I MEAN, THAT COULD BE AT OUR TARGETED AUDIENCE ALSO, BECAUSE WE WERE TARGETING REC CENTERS WHEN THEY WERE BUSY, OR PARKS WHEN WE KNEW THEY WERE BUSY.

SO SOME, SOME OF OUR NEXT STEPS, IF YOU REMEMBER, IN APRIL OF 2019, COUNCIL ADOPTED OUR ELCON 2030 PLAN.

IT'S OUR POCKET PARK PLAN MORE OR LESS.

SO THERE'S A PARK WITHIN A HALF MILE OF EVERY RESIDENT THAT'S A LONG RANGE, LONG-TERM PLAN.

SO WE'RE GONNA BUILD OUR PARKS MASTER PLAN.

ON TOP OF THAT, WE PLAN TO GO OUT TO MISSION CHARLES REGIONAL PARK, ESPECIALLY THE ENTRANCE AREA AT GROSSMONT COLLEGE IN EL CAJON TO MISSION CHARLES REGIONAL PARK, AS WE WANT TO DO THE SURVEYS THERE TO SEE IF THERE'S RESIDENTS USING THAT.

WE ALSO WANT TO GO TO HARRY GRIFFIN PARK AT LEAST TWO DIFFERENT TIMES AND DO THOSE SURVEYS.

THERE BEING THAT WE DO HAVE THAT JOINT POWER AUTHORITY, UH, WITH HARRY GRIFFIN PARK, AND THE CITY DOES PAY INTO THAT.

IT'S RIGHT ON OUR BORDER.

WE RECOGNIZE THAT IN OUR PARKS MASTER PLAN.

SO WE SHOULD AT LEAST DO SOME PUBLIC INPUT THERE.

UH, WE WILL DO WEB-BASED SURVEYS ALSO.

SO WE'LL HAVE A WEB-BASED SURVEY OPEN FOR TWO WEEKS.

THAT'S WHEN WE'LL USUALLY GET THE LARGER NUMBERS OF PEOPLE DOING IT.

AND THAT'S MORE QUANTITATIVE DATA THAT'S JUST COMING IN.

AND IT MAY, IT MAY NOT BE EASY TO EXTRAPOLATE ALL THAT DATA, BUT I THINK WITH THE SMALLER NUMBERS THAT WE'VE DONE, IT'S BEEN STRONG FOR US.

UH, WE ARE PLANNING ON DOING STRONG, UH, STAKEHOLDER QUALITATIVE SURVEYS OR MORE INTERVIEWS.

SO LIKE WITH THE EL CAJON COMMUNITY COLLABORATIVE GROUP AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY.

UH, SO OUT OF THE 154 STANDARDS THAT ARE IN ACCREDITATION PROCESS, WE HAVE 10 REMAINING.

UH, WE ARE CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL HAVE THAT READY TO PRESENT BEFORE COUNCIL EITHER IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY, UH, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT SIX WEEKS AHEAD OF TIME BEFORE THE NATIONAL RECREATION PARKS ASSOCIATION ACTUALLY SEES THAT IN MARCH.

AND OUR TARGET DATE IS IN MARCH TO HAVE THAT.

UM, AND UH, LASTLY, WE OR WE, MYSELF AND TWO OTHER STAFF MEMBERS MET OUT WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS AT BRADLEY AND MOLLISON, UH, THAT LIVE NEXT TO THOSE VACANT PROPERTIES.

AND I'LL SHOW YOU ON A MAP A LITTLE BIT MORE.

SO THIS IS ON BRADLEY AVENUE NEAR MOLLISON.

THERE'S FIVE VACANT PROPERTIES THERE.

THEY'RE DOING A STREET WIDENING PROJECT, I SHOULD SAY.

THEY, THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO IS DOING A STREET WIDENING PROJECT AT THAT LOCATION, UH, AND TO THEIR WEST, IMMEDIATE WEST, AND THEN PRETTY CLOSE TO THEIR IMMEDIATE EAST IS COUNTY.

THEY'RE IN THIS, UH, THIS CITY OF EL CAJON AREA ON THE MAP.

AND SO THERE, THERE'S SOME FRUSTRATIONS.

UH, AND I, I WOULD SAY THAT'S AN UNDERSTATEMENT.

YEAH.

UM, THIS IS TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW.

SO IF YOU REALLY LOOK AT THAT, IT'S THOSE FIVE VACANT DEMOLISHED PROPERTIES RIGHT THERE ON BRADLEY AVENUE.

UM, AND THE STREET WIDENING, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT MY GUESSTIMATION IS THE FRONT HALF OF THOSE PROPERTIES WOULD BE USED FOR STREET WIDENING.

AND I, WE'VE HAD CITY MANAGER AND ELECTED OFFICIALS ASK US, YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF PARK COULD WE PUT IN THERE? AND SO WE'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD ACTUALLY GO AND TALK TO PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE TO SEE WHAT THEY WANT.

UM, BECAUSE WHAT WE FIND IN PARKS AND RECREATION WORLD IS SOMETIMES THEY DON'T WANT A PARK.

THEY WANT SOMETHING ELSE AND, OR MAYBE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY WANT.

AND SO THAT WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

SO WE WENT OUT THERE SATURDAY, OCTOBER 7TH.

UM, I BROUGHT A CANOPY TABLE AND CHAIRS TO BE ALL SET UP, BUT I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SET THAT UP.

IT WAS RIGHT AWAY.

WE STARTED OUT WITH ABOUT A DOZEN PEOPLE AND ENDED UP WITH ABOUT 20 ATTENDING.

UM, AND I WOULD SAY 16 OUT OF THE 20 AT THE START WE'RE VERY MUCH A STRONG NO TO A PARK.

AND THERE WAS A LOT OF FRUSTRATIONS.

AND IT WASN'T NECESSARILY THE PARK, IT WAS A LOT OF FRUSTRATIONS DIRECTED ELSEWHERE.

SO THOSE WERE CHRONIC HOMELESS AND CRIME IN THE AREA.

UM, THERE WERE PARKING ISSUES.

SO IF YOU SEE THE RED ON THAT MAP THAT I HAVE THERE, THAT U-SHAPE IS REALLY THOSE PROPERTIES.

UH, WITHIN THAT, THAT AREA WHERE ALL THOSE HOMEOWNERS WERE, WE DISTRIBUTED FLYERS, WE LET THEM KNOW WE WERE COMING, I DISTRIBUTED ON A WEEK AHEAD OF TIME, SO THEY KNEW THAT WE WERE COMING.

AND THE PARKING THERE IS, IF YOU GO TO THE WEST OF IT, IT IS MOBILE HOME, AND THEY HAVE TO GET A PERMIT TO PARK.

SO THEY PARK ON THIS RESIDENTIAL STREET.

AND, AND I'VE WITNESSED, I ACTUALLY WITNESSED THIS AND WENT THE SECOND TIME I WENT TO PASS OUT FLYERS LAST WEEK, IS THAT THEY SAID THAT PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIVE THERE, THEY PARK ON THAT STREET AND THEN THEY DUMP OUT THE TRASH AND, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO PICK UP THE TRASH ON THE STREET ALL THE TIME.

IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF FRUSTRATIONS.

UM, WHEN THEY GAVE ME INPUT ON THE TRAFFIC, IT'S THE TRAFFIC GOING UP.

MOLLISON, THERE'S A STOP SIGN RIGHT THERE.

AND ESPECIALLY LATE AT NIGHT, THEY SAY THAT PEOPLE RUN THE STOP SIGN.

WHEN WE DID OUR OWN ANALYSIS, THERE'S BEEN NOMINAL,

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UH, TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS, BUT I'M SURE ANY TRAFFIC ACCIDENT IS A BIG DEAL TO THAT COMMUNITY.

UH, SO MUCH SO THAT THEY, THEY KEPT TALKING ABOUT IT, THAT THERE'S BEEN PROPERTY DAMAGE TO OTHER VEHICLES.

SO THAT DEFINITELY TOOK NOTE IN THAT, UM, AS THE, THEY WERE COMMUNICATING WITH ME, AND IT WAS VERY, UM, DYNAMIC COMMUNICATION.

UM, IT, THEY, I DID HAVE ONE GENTLEMAN TELL ME THAT, UH, I REPEATED, UH, WHAT I THOUGHT BACK MENTALLY, WHAT THEY HAD SHARED.

AND HE SAID, YOU FORGOT ONE THING, FRANK, WE HAVE NO CONFIDENCE IN THE CITY.

WE HAVE NO CONFIDENCE IN THE COUNTY TO GET ANYTHING DONE.

AND I SAID, OKAY, WELL HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE.

I'M HERE TODAY.

HOLD ME ACCOUNTABLE.

HOLD, HOLD US ALL ACCOUNTABLE, ALL OF THE STAFF THAT ARE HERE TODAY.

SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN BUILD A LITTLE BIT MORE CONFIDENCE IN THEM.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.

UM, ONE OTHER THING IS THAT THEY, THEY TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE APPEARANCE AND I TALKED ABOUT THE PARKING.

UM, BUT IT'S THE ACTUAL DEMOLISHED PROPERTIES.

AND THAT'S WHY I, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE.

UM, AND IT, THEY HAVE SOME OLD SIGNS IN THEM.

THERE'S TRASH INSIDE THERE, THAT AREA.

AND THERE, ONE RESIDENT SAID LIKE, I'M EMBARRASSED TO TELL PEOPLE THE STREET I LIVE ON 'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE GONNA DRIVE BY.

AND SO I, I TOOK A LOT OF THAT TO HEART.

UM, WHAT, WHAT I RECOMMENDED TO GRAHAM AND VINCE, I, I, I TYPED UP A, AN AFTER ACTION REPORT, SHARED IT WITH THEM, IS THAT, UM, I RECOMMENDED THAT WE HAVE A FOLLOW UP, UH, PUBLIC INPUT.

AND I, I TOLD THEM THAT IF WE'RE, IF, IF WE DID GO IN THE DIRECTION OF HAVING A PARK HERE, AND THAT'S, I KNOW THAT MIGHT BE A BIG IF, BUT IF WE DID GO IN THAT DIRECTION, I WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO GET AT LEAST FOUR PUBLIC INPUT SESSIONS.

SOME ON WEEKENDS, SOME WEEKNIGHTS, SOME WEEKDAY, JUST DEPENDING ON, ON IT.

BUT THAT'S A STATE STANDARD THAT I WOULD HAVE TO GO BY, ESPECIALLY IF WE WANNA COMPETE FOR GRANTS TOO.

UH, SO THEY, I DID ASK THEM, IF I WERE TO COME BACK, I WANNA COME BACK AGAIN.

WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU WANT? AND THEY WANT TO TALK WITH A TRAFFIC ENGINEER OR CITY ENGINEER.

SO MA SANCHEZ, OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, IS GOING OUT WITH ME THIS COMING SATURDAY.

I'LL BE YOUR BODYGUARD TOMORROW.

ALRIGHT, .

UM, BUT THEY MORE WANTED CLARIFICATION'S ON TRAFFIC AND THERE'S THINGS THAT I CAN'T EXPLAIN, LIKE THEY WANNA UNDERSTAND WHY THEY CAN'T HAVE SPEED BUMPS.

THEY WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHY THEY CAN'T HAVE LIKE A GATE TO THEIR STREET THAT THEY WOULD OPEN AND CLOSE.

AND I'M LIKE, OKAY, THIS ISN'T AN HOA, BUT, OKAY.

SO THESE ARE MORE CONVERSATIONS WHERE SOMEONE WITH GREATER EXPERTISE ON TRAFFIC THAN ME WILL BE PRESENT.

UM, I WANT TO GATHER MORE INPUT IF THEY DO WANNA PARK THERE.

BECAUSE WHAT WAS REFRESHING WAS THE, THE SECOND HOUR, UH, AFTER PEOPLE EXPRESS THEIR FRUSTRATION.

AND AGAIN, I SAY THAT LIGHTLY, THE SECOND HOUR I STARTED HAVING 3, 4, 5, 6 RESIDENTS ASKING, WELL, IF WE DID PUT A PARK IN HERE, WHAT, WHAT COULD IT LOOK LIKE? WHAT COULD IT BE? AND I WAS GIVING 'EM OPTIONS, BUT I WOULD, I WAS ALSO CAUTIOUS.

I SAID, LOOK, I AM JUST SOMEONE THAT WOULD BE IN AN OFFICE.

YOU AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S REALLY WHAT, WHAT THE INPUT YOU WOULD GIVE, WHAT YOU WOULD WANT HERE THAT WOULD HAVE THE GREATEST IMPACT BECAUSE YOU WOULD BE THE, THE OWNERSHIP OF IT.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO CARE, YOU WOULD BE THE ONES THAT WOULD CALL FOR POLICE SERVICES OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT, THAT WERE BAD THAT WAS HAPPENING THAT YOU WOULD, WE WOULD WANT YOU TO CARE ABOUT IT.

THAT'S WHY WE WOULD NEED YOUR INPUT.

UH, WE PLAN ON DOING A FINAL REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM.

THIS IS JUST A PUBLIC PRESENTATION, NOT AN ADMIN REPORT, BUT WE PLAN ON DOING THEN AN ADMIN REPORT TO COUNCIL IN EARLY 2024 ABOUT THE ENTIRE PUBLIC INPUT PROCESS WITHIN THIS.

UM, THAT FLYER RIGHT THERE WAS JUST FROM LATE LAST WEEK, LAST FRIDAY, GOING AROUND TO ALL THOSE HOMES AGAIN AND JUST DISTRIBUTING THAT FLYER.

THERE'S 13 PEOPLE THAT GAVE ME THEIR EMAIL ADDRESSES.

SO I'M ALSO COMMUNICATING WITH THEM VIA EMAIL ABOUT ANY FUTURE COMMUNICATION THAT, OR ANY PUBLIC INPUT THAT WE WOULD BE HAVING.

AND I'M GONNA END IT WITH LARRY BEING HAPPY WATERING HIS PLANTS.

SO I CAN END IT ON A HAPPY NOTE HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS JUST FOR CLARITY.

THANKS, FRANK, FOR, UM, I MEAN, YOU, YOUR REPORT WAS FANTASTIC AND 154 TASKS AND YOU'RE DOWN TO THE LAST 10.

THAT'S GOTTA FEEL LIKE YOU'RE ON THE LAST LAB.

I, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE CREDIT FOR THAT, BUT I'D SAY PROBABLY ABOUT 142 OF THOSE ARE ELENA HOLMES, OUR MANAGEMENT ANALYSTS, MAKING SURE THAT IT IS TAKEN CARE OF.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF ELLEN IS HERE, BUT SHE'S RIGHT THERE.

SO SHE GETS THE BIGGEST CREDIT FOR IT.

TWO GOLD, 3, 4, 5 GOLD STARS FOR YOU.

THEY, NO, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK ON THAT.

THAT'S A MARATHON OF A, OF A TASK, SO THANK YOU.

UM, WITH REGARD TO THE BRADLEY, UH, EXPANSION, THOSE VACANT PROPERTIES, MY UNDERSTANDING THAT'S NOW COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY, CORRECT? THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO OWNS THAT PROPERTY.

UM, AND SO ANY UM, ACTION THAT WE'D WANNA TAKE, WE'D HAVE TO, UM, WORK WITH THE COUNTY FOR THAT, RIGHT? RIGHT.

WE, IT WOULD, IT BASICALLY, OH, GO AHEAD.

SORRY.

I THINK WE NEED A, THIS IS BECOMING MORE OF AN AGENDA ITEM THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.

A MORE OF AN UPDATE ON THIS PRO PROJECT, WE CAN BRING THIS BACK AT A LATER DATE.

I, I WOULD RECOMMEND IF THE COUNCIL WANTS

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GREAT.

BUT THIS IS MOVING INTO AN AGENDA ITEM, BUT THEN THOSE, THE RESIDENTS, THE HOUSES AROUND IT, THAT'S CITY OF EL CAJON RESIDENCE, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.

ALRIGHT.

THAT, THAT'S ALL I REALLY WANTED TO KNOW.

GOOD AFTERNOON, HONORABLE MAYOR.

ANYBODY ELSE? THANKS FRANK.

LASTLY, WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR INTERNATIONAL ACCOUNTING DAY.

I'D LIKE TO INVITE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, CLAY SHOWN TO THE PODIUM TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION.

HEY CLAY.

A HAPPY INTERNATIONAL ACCOUNTING DAY.

I DID DIDN'T TELL YOU THAT EARLIER.

SO WHEN, UH, MR. MITCHELL BROUGHT THAT TO MY ATTENTION, I ASSURED HIM THAT I WAS PRETTY SURE EVERY DAY WAS A COUNTING DAY.

YEAH.

UM, SO WE'VE GOT A PROCLAMATION FOR YOU.

DO YOU HAVE IT WITH YOU? I DO.

OKAY, GREAT.

I'M GONNA READ THE, THE LAST PART OF THAT.

WHEREAS THE CITY OF EL CAJON TO RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF ACKNOWLEDGING AND CELEBRATING THE PROFESSIONALS WHO DEDICATE THEIR EXPERTISE TO MAINTAINING THE HIGHEST STANDARDS OF FINANCIAL STEWARDSHIP AND TRANSPARENCY.

NOW, THEREFORE, I BILL WELLS, THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF EL CAJON, TOGETHER WITH THE CITY COUNCIL TO HEREBY PROCLAIM NOVEMBER 10TH, 2023, AS WAIT FOR IT INTERNATIONAL ACCOUNTING DAY IN THE CITY OF EL CAJON AND CALL UPON BUSINESSES, EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS, GOVERNMENT AGENCIES AND INDIVIDUALS TO OBSERVE THIS DAY BY HONORING THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF ACCOUNTANTS AND FINANCE PROFESSIONALS WHO TIRELESSLY WORK TO UPHOLD THE PRINCIPLES OF ACCURACY, INTEGRITY, AND ETHICAL CONDUCT IN FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE OUR CITY'S, UH, ACCOUNTING STAFF THAT ARE WITH US HERE TODAY.

AND IF YOU EXCELLENT.

UH, PERMIT ME.

I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE THEM REAL QUICKLY.

UH, LUCA GONZALEZ IS THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR IN THE, UH, FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

HE'S ALSO SERVES AS THE CITY'S CHIEF ACCOUNTANT.

WE HAVE SENIOR ACCOUNTANTS, LEANNE JONES, SANTOS.

JASON KING AND MARTHA LOPEZ.

JONATHAN MENDOZA, AMY PINON, SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYST, UH, AUTUMN BERGER.

WE'VE SEEN AUTUMN BEFORE.

SHE HELPS US WITH THE BUDGET AND ACCOUNTANTS.

THEY DON'T GET VERY MUCH ATTENTION.

I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME TODAY.

I ACKNOWLEDGE THEM.

WE'RE AT CONSENT ITEMS. CONSENT ITEMS ARE ROUTINE MATTERS ENACTED BY ONE MOTION ACCORDING TO THE RECOMMENDATION LISTED BELOW WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OR COUNCIL MEMBER OR PERSON IN ATTENDANCE MAY REQUEST DISCUSSION OF A CONSENT ITEM AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU ALL FOR THE HARD WORK THAT YOU DO.

I KNOW THAT'S, UH, GOTTA BE A LOT OF WORK.

THANKS VERY MUCH MR. MAYOR.

I'D LOVE TO SHARE A COUPLE OTHER LITTLE ITEMS ABOUT OUR FINANCE DEPARTMENT.

WE'RE ACTUALLY MADE UP OF 16 INDIVIDUALS, SO THAT'S JUST A, A PORTION OF THEM.

AND THEY PROVIDE A WIDE VARIETY OF SERVICES FROM BEING THE, THE INDIVIDUALS THAT GREET OUR CUSTOMERS AT THE FRONT COUNTER TO ISSUING ALL OF THE CITY'S OR PAYING ALL THE CITY'S BILLS, RECEIVING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO MANAGING THE CITY'S PROCUREMENT.

AND, AND I WON'T SAY MOST IMPORTANTLY, BUT VERY IMPORTANTLY, UH, PREPARING AND MONITORING THE CITY'S BUDGET.

UM, A COUPLE LITTLE FUN FACTS ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT.

THEY, UH, PROCESSED ABOUT SEVEN, A LITTLE OVER 17,000 PAYMENTS LAST FISCAL YEAR.

UH, IT'S A LOT OF PAYMENTS.

THEY, UH, MANAGED AND RECOR RECEIVED AND RECORDED $136.4 MILLION IN REVENUE.

AND THROUGH THE PROCUREMENT PROCESS, THE FIRE, THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT PREPARED 159 CONTRACTS WITH VENDORS THAT COMES OUT TO BE ABOUT THREE PER WEEK.

AND THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S REQUIRED TO GET FROM A TO Z FOR A CONTRACT IS PRETTY PHENOMENAL.

AND THAT'S DONE BY TWO INDIVIDUALS.

SO THEY HANDLED ALL OF THAT WORK.

AND, UM, I JUST WANNA SAY A BIG THANKS TO THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT FOR ALL THAT THEY DO AND THEIR AMAZING CUSTOMER SERVICE.

ALRIGHT, THANKS AGAIN.

OKAY, NOW

[7. CONSENT ITEMS: Consent Items are routine matters enacted by one motion according to the RECOMMENDATION listed below. With the concurrence of the City Council, a Council Member or person in attendance may request discussion of a Consent Item at this time.]

COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO YOU WISH TO PULL ANY OF THE CONSENT ITEMS, STAFF? NO, SIR.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THEN TO APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS. SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

AND FOR THE RECORD, SIR, WE HAD NO SPEAKER CARDS FOR CONSENT ITEMS. THANK YOU.

AND THE MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

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ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE NOW

[ PUBLIC COMMENT: At this time, any person may address a matter within the jurisdiction of the City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the El Cajon Redevelopment Agency that is not on the Agenda. Comments relating to items on today’s docket are to be taken at the time the item is heard. State law prohibits discussion or action on items not on the Agenda; however, Council, Authority and Agency Members may briefly respond to statements or questions. An item may be placed on a future Agenda.]

AT PUBLIC COMMENT.

AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS A MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THEON REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

COMMENTS RELATING TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA ARE TO BE TAKEN AT THE TIME THAT THE ITEM IS HEARD.

STATE LAW PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

HOWEVER, CITY COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND TO STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS, AND AN ITEM MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

ANGELA.

ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CURRENTS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO, SIR.

WE HAVE ONE.

AND IT'S SUSAN ROBERTS LEY.

HI, SUSAN.

GOOD AFTERNOON, HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UH, MY NAME IS SUSAN ROBERTS UGLY AND I AM THE CHAIR.

I'M THE CHAIR OF THE VECA PROGRAM, WHICH IS THE VETERANS EAST COUNTY ALLIANCE, AND IT IS PART OF THE SAN DIEGO EAST COUNTY CHAMBER.

UM, I RETIRED, UM, AFTER 30 YEARS WITH THE GROSSMONT UNION HIGH SCHOOL DISTRICT.

ALSO WORKED AT EL CAJON HIGH, BY THE WAY.

AND, UM, I CAME TO THE CHAMBER TO START A VETERAN, UM, PROGRAM.

AND I WANTED TO ADDRESS AND HELP VETERAN-OWNED BUSINESSES AND VETERAN-FRIENDLY BUSINESSES TO BE HONORED AND SUPPORTED IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND I WAS VERY WELL WELCOMED, UM, AT THE CHAMBER.

AND, UM, I, AT OUR FIRST MEETING IN JUNE OF 2021, WE HAD OVER 20 PEOPLE THAT CAME TO THAT FIRST MEETING.

WE NOW HAVE OVER 130 MEMBERS IN OUR VECA GROUP THAT I'M VERY EXCITED TO, TO SHARE WITH ALL OF YOU.

WE HAVE MONTHLY MEETINGS THAT ARE LOCATED THROUGHOUT EAST COUNTY.

WE'VE HAD THEM AT THE EL CAJON LIBRARY, THE, UM, EL CAJON, VFW, OTHER VFWS THROUGHOUT, UH, THE COMMUNITY.

AND WE HAVE SPONSORED LUNCHES AND GUEST SPEAKERS THAT COME AND TALK TO OUR VETERAN OWNED BUSINESSES AND VETERAN FRIENDLY BUSINESSES AND RESOURCES.

IN ADDITION, WE JUST STARTED AVEKA COFFEE CONNECT.

UM, IT'S FOR THE THIRD THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH, UM, AT THE SANDT VFW AND IT'S 9:00 AM TO 10.

AND I WELCOME EVERYONE TO COME TO THAT AS WELL.

IN ADDITION, UM, OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS WE HAVE HAD, UM, A LOT OF SUPPORT IN OUR COMMUNITY.

THE EAST COUNTY POSSE HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF OUR SUPPORTERS, AND THEY'VE GIVEN US MONEY TO HELP US WITH SCHOLARSHIPS FOR THE EAST COUNTY LEADERSHIP PROGRAM.

WE HAVE SENT OVER FIVE, UM, WE SENT FIVE, UH, VETERANS TO THAT PROGRAM.

WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

AND WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED THREE CHAMBER MEMBERSHIPS TO VETERAN-OWNED BUSINESSES.

SO AGAIN, THE REASON WE'RE DOING THESE KIND OF THINGS IS TO PROMOTE BUSINESS, RIGHT? AND TO MAKE VETERANS MORE SUCCESSFUL.

WE WANT VETERAN, UM, OWNERS AND VETERAN, UH, IN GENERAL TO BE KNOWN AS LEADERS IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND THAT'S WHY WE PROMOTE THEM IN THESE DIFFERENT KIND OF PROGRAMS. IN ADDITION, WE'VE ALSO HAD HOLIDAY LUNCHEONS THAT WE'VE HAD RIGHT OVER HERE AT THE EL CAJON, UM, UH, DEPARTMENT.

AND WE'VE OUTGROWN THAT ROOM, UH, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE COMING TO THAT, UM, MEETING.

AND SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING AT, AT THE VALOR EVENT, WHICH IS GOING TO BE ON NOVEMBER 30TH AT HUMAL CASINO.

THEY'RE ONE OF OUR TITLE SPONSORS.

THEY'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF OUR VETERAN COMMUNITY.

AND, UM, WE INVITE ALL OF YOU TO ATTEND THAT EVENT.

WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.

WE HAVE OVER 28 NOMINEES, AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE FLYER IN DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.

VETERAN EMPLOYEE OF THE MONTH, I MEAN, I'M SORRY, VETERAN EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR, VETERAN, UM, SPOUSE, UM, OF THE YEAR, VETERAN RESOURCE OF THE YEAR, VETERAN FRIENDLY BUSINESS OF THE YEAR, AND VETERAN, SMALL, MEDIUM AND LARGE.

AND WE HAVE SEVERAL BUSINESSES THAT ARE NOMINEES FROM THE EL CAJON AREA AS WELL.

SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

UM, I HOPE THAT YOU CAN SUPPORT US IN THIS.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO IT.

AND I WILL GIVE A REAL QUICK COMMENT THAT WE HAVE SEVERAL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT HAVE COME TO OUR MEETINGS AND BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE, SO WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANKS, PHIL.

LEMME SEE IF ANY QUESTIONS.

PHIL.

SUSAN, THANKS FOR COMING AND PROMOTING YOUR EVENT.

YOU KNOW, I GOT TO KNOW YOU VERY QUICKLY, AND I HAVE TO SAY VECA IS ONE OF THE MOST ENERGETIC DYNAMIC VETERANS GROUPS THAT I'VE SEEN.

AND I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SERVICE.

I JUST BOUGHT MY TICKET FOR THE LUNCH.

AWESOME.

SO I'M SUPER EXCITED TO ATTEND.

WELL, PLEASE BRING A GUEST TOO.

I WILL DO MY BEST TO GET A BABYSITTER.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO INVITE YOUR VETERAN EMPLOYEE OF THE YEAR WITH THE CITY OF EL CAJON TOO.

UM, I WAS GLAD TO HEAR ABOUT THAT, SO WE'D LOVE TO HAVE HIM COME AS WELL TOO.

BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU'RE DOING AND, UH, KEEP IT UP.

SO, UM, NOBODY ELSE, NO OTHER SPEAKERS, SIR.

WE'RE NOW AT PUBLIC HEARINGS.

THERE ARE NO WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

AND

[11. Amendment to the 2023 Five-Year Program of Projects for the SANDAG Regional Transportation Improvement Program (RTIP No. 23-08) RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council: Opens the Public Hearing and receives testimony; Closes the Public Hearing; and Adopts the next Resolution, in order, approving the amendment to the proposed 2023 five-year program of projects for the SANDAG Regional Transportation Improvement Program (RTIP No. 23-08).]

WE HAVE ONE ITEM TO CONSIDER.

ITEM 11 IS FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THE 20 23 5 YEAR PROGRAM OF PROJECTS FOR THE SANDAG REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM.

I'LL ASK STAFF TO INTRODUCE THIS ITEM.

GOOD AFTERNOON,

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MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MARIO SANCHEZ, CITY ENGINEER.

YEAH, THIS ITEM IS AN AMENDMENT TO OUR FIVE YEAR, UH, TRANSNET, UH, PROGRAM.

AND IT'S JUST, UH, JUST TO REFRESH OUR MEMORY, OUR TRANSNET IS A HALF CENT, UH, COUNTY COUNTYWIDE SALES TAX THAT WAS, UH, APPROVED IN 2004.

AND IT GOES FOR AN ADDITIONAL 40 YEARS AFTER THAT.

AND IT HELPS FUND OUR LOCAL, UH, TRANSPORTATION AND REGIONAL, UH, PROJECTS.

AND THERE ARE SIX CHANGES THAT WE'RE DOING FOR THIS AMENDMENT AS LISTED IN THE RESOLUTION.

AND THEY ARE NEEDED TO RESPOND TO OUR ANNUAL AUDIT THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR.

UM, FINANCE TAKES THE LEAD ON THAT.

AND OUR, AS, AS A REFRESHER, A TRANSIT HELPS FUND OUR STREET OVERLAYS, UH, PEDESTRIAN CURB, RAMP SIDEWALKS, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNAL PROJECTS.

AND, UH, WE USE THE FUNDING TO AUGMENT OUR, OUR LARGER TRANSPORTATION GRANT PROJECTS.

UH, WITH THAT, I JUST CONCLUDE MY ITEM.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

NO.

THANKS VERY MUCH.

DO WE HAVE ANY, UM, I'M GONNA OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO SPEAKER CARDS, SIR.

ALRIGHT, THEN I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

PLEASE VOTE.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH SOMEBODY WHO'D LIKE TO, UM, MAKE A MOTION, I'LL MOVE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

REPORTS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

WE HAVE TWO ADMINISTRATIVE

[12. Sheltering Service for Pets of Homeless Individuals RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council receives the report and provides direction to staff.]

ITEM 12 IS A REPORT ON A SHELTERING SERVICE FOR PETS OF HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS.

AND I'LL ASK OUR CITY MANAGER GRAHAM MITCHELL TO TELL US ABOUT THIS.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. MAYOR.

MEMBERS THE COUNCIL.

IF I CAN GET MY PRESENTATION UP, THAT'D BE GREAT.

UM, BACK IN SEPTEMBER, COUNCIL MEMBERS MITCHELL AND KENDRICK PROPOSED THAT STAFF LOOK INTO OPTIONS THAT WE COULD PROVIDE TO THOSE THAT ARE HOMELESS WITH PETS AND HOW WE COULD SHELTER THEM SO THEY CAN GO GET SERVICES OR POTENTIAL HOUSING.

AT THAT TIME, THE CITY COUNCIL AGREED AND DIRECTED STAFF TO LOOK AT SEVERAL OPTIONS, SPECIFICALLY ONE OPTION DEALING WITH, UM, A, A PROGRAM THAT CURRENTLY OPERATES BETWEEN THE CITY OF CARLSBAD AND THE HUMANE SOCIETY.

AS YOU RECALL, DURING THE DISCUSSION, THERE WAS A LOT OF OTHER DIFFERENT OPTIONS THE CITY COULD HAVE EXPLORED, BUT, UH, THE IMPRESSION I GOT WAS THAT COUNCIL WANTED STAFF TO SPEND AS LITTLE TIME AS POSSIBLE ON IT.

THAT SOUNDS BAD, BUT, UM, TO NOT EXPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THIS AND TO LOOK AT AN EXISTING MODEL THAT ACTUALLY THAT HAS BEEN IN, IN USE FOR A WHILE.

SO, UM, STAFF, THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN CARLSBAD AND THE HUMANE SOCIETY, JUST A COUPLE THINGS TO POINT OUT.

THERE IS A LIMIT ON THE NUMBER OF DAYS THAT, UH, A PET THAT BELONGS TO A HOMELESS INDIVIDUAL CAN STAY AT THE HUMANE SOCIETY.

IT'S 14 DAYS, UM, THAT THERE'S A REFERRAL PROCESS, SO DOGS JUST DON'T GET DROPPED OFF.

THERE IS A PROGRAM OR A WAY THAT A PET AND A INDIVIDUAL ARE REFERRED TO THE HUMANE SOCIETY.

THE HUMANE SOCIETY WILL TAKE ALL LEGAL TYPES OF PETS FROM DOGS TO HAMSTERS AND SNAKES.

AND, UH, THERE'S ALSO A VERY PRESCRIBED METHOD BY WHICH THE HUMANE SOCIETY AND THE CITY IS RELEASED FROM LIABILITY HOLD, HARMLESS WAIVERS, UH, AGREEMENTS NOT TO SUE IN THE EVENT SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS TO THE ANIMAL.

THERE ARE PRETTY, PRETTY, UM, ROBUST VISITATION ABILITIES.

UH, TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY FROM 10:00 AM TO 4:00 PM AT THE SITE, UH, THERE IS A, A, UH, PRESCRIPTION OF HOW THE, UH, ANIMAL IS EXITED FROM THE PROGRAM.

IN THE EVENT THAT THE 14 DAYS HAS COME AND GONE AFTER A GOOD FAITH EFFORT, THAT DOG IS THEN ABANDONED, UM, BACK INTO THE SHELTER AND THEN CAN BE ADOPTED OUT.

UH, AND THEN ALSO THERE ARE A REQUIREMENT FOR A QUARTERLY REPORT.

THE THING THAT WAS MOST INTERESTING TO STAFF WAS THE COST.

SO THE, THE, THE AGREEMENT WITH CARLSBAD HAS A MAXIMUM COST OF ABOUT 300, UH, $30,000 PER YEAR.

UM, THIS EQUATES TO $20 PER DAY FOR BOARDING AFTER YOU CONSIDER THE OTHER INTAKE FEES AND VACCINATION COSTS AND CHIPPING AND LICENSING IT ENDS UP, UH, RESULTING IN A A 14 STAY, 14 DAY STAY IS ABOUT $356.

SO, UM, AND THERE'S ALSO A CAP OF MEDICAL SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED TO $2,500 PER ANIMAL.

UM, AS PART OF THE PROGRAM, UH, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT TO THIS POINT, THIS AGREEMENT HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR ABOUT TWO YEARS IN CARLSBAD.

AND THEIR CITY MANAGERS INDICATED TO ME THAT NOT ONE

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INDIVIDUAL HAS TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THE PROGRAM.

SO EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE THIS ON THE BOOKS, UH, NO ONE'S TAKEN ADVANTAGE.

SO THIS, THE $29,000 ALLOCATED FOR THIS PROGRAM HAS NOT COST CARLSBAD A DIME BECAUSE NO ONE'S PARTICIPATED IN THE PROGRAM QUITE YET.

SO IN, IN LOOKING AT SOME OPTIONS THE COUNCIL MAY WANT TO CONSIDER, ONE IS WE CAN EXPLORE ALTERNATIVE SHELTERING OPTIONS SIMILAR TO THE ONES THAT YOU EXPLORED AT THE LAST MEETING.

UH, YOU COULD DIRECT STAFF TO NEGOTIATE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETY.

I'D RECOMMEND WE, AT LEAST FOR A FIRST BLUSH, DO SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT CARLSBAD HAS DONE.

AND THEN, UH, THE THIRD OPTION WOULD BE TO RECEIVE THE REPORT AND DIRECT STAFF TO TAKE NO FURTHER ACTION.

SO WITH THAT, STAFF'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE PROGRAM OR TO RECEIVE ANY, UH, FEEDBACK THAT YOU MAY WISH TO GIVE.

MICHELLE, THE ONLY THING THAT, THANK YOU, GRAHAM, FOR THE, UM, REPORT, THE ONLY THING THAT I CAN THINK OF IS CONTACTING SERVICE PROVIDERS WHO WERE ACTUALLY TALKING TO PEOPLE ON THE STREET AND SEE IF THAT IS A BARRIER.

I KNOW THAT, UH, MR. KENDRICK AND I HAD BROUGHT THIS FORTH TO YOU AND IT SEEMED LIKE IT MIGHT BE AN OPTION OR TO PROVIDE THIS, UH, OR REMOVE THIS BARRIER THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, WELL, I CAN'T GO INTO A PROGRAM BECAUSE I'VE GOT X, Y, Z NUMBER OF DOGS.

UM, BUT I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO SEE WHAT SERVICE PROVIDERS HAVE COME ACROSS.

ARE THEY COMING ACROSS TO A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO SAY, I, I I CAN'T, I'VE GOT MY DOGS? OR IS THAT JUST NOT AN OPTION? AND IS IT GONNA BE THE SAME OR SIMILAR TO CARLSBAD? SO, MS. MITCHELL, I CAN SPEAK FIRSTHAND AFTER TALKING TO SERVICE PROVIDERS AND ALSO GOING OUT WITH SERVICE PROVIDERS AND TALKING TO HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS.

THIS IS USED AS THIS IS A BARRIER.

HAVING A PET AND RECEIVING SERVICE IS A BARRIER.

HOWEVER, HAVING SAID THAT, MY PERCEPTION IS THAT IT'S USED AS AN EXCUSE.

AND ONCE THAT BARRIER IS REMOVED, THERE WILL BE ANOTHER EXCUSE.

EXACTLY.

AND YET ANOTHER BARRIER.

SO, UM, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT STAFF DOESN'T THINK THAT THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA, BUT I'M, I THINK THAT'S WHAT CARLSBAD HAS EXPERIENCED.

ONCE THAT BARRIER HAS BEEN REMOVED, THERE'S STILL YET ANOTHER EXCUSE TO NOT GET SERVICES OR NOT TO GET ASSISTANCE.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO SOMETHING SIMILAR AND NO ONE'S GONNA TAKE US UP ON OUR OFFER AND WE'LL BE JUST LIKE CARLSBAD IF THEY DO TAKE US UP AND IT'S ONLY ONE OR TWO PEOPLE, THAT'S ONE OR TWO PEOPLE THAT HAVE ACCEPTED THE SERVICE.

SO I DON'T, I'M NOT REALLY SURE AT THIS POINT.

ANYBODY ELSE? UM, GRAHAM, A QUESTION.

HOW EXPENSIVE IS IT GONNA BE FOR US TO, UM, IMPLEMENT THIS PROGRAM AND GET A, GET A CONTRACT WITH THE HUMANE SOCIETY? IF WE WERE TO RELY ON A SIMILAR CONTRACT THAT CARLSBAD UTILIZES, THE STAFF COST WOULD BE NOMINAL.

UM, BUT THERE IS, I MEAN, THERE IS A COST, THERE IS NOT, IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T PAY FOR IT.

UM, IT DOESN'T TAKE STAFF TIME AND VINCE SORT OF MANAGES OUR ANIMAL CONTROL CONTRACTS.

SO IT'D JUST BE ADDED ONE MORE THING THAT HE'S REVIEWING AND MAKING SURE THERE WE'RE RECEIVING THE QUARTERLY REPORTS, IF THERE ARE ANY, UM, THAT WE'RE MAKING SURE WE MARKET IT.

SO THERE IS A, A NOMINAL COST, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE A HARD COST.

IT'D JUST BE AN INDIRECT STAFF COST.

IF YOU HAD TO PUT A ROUGH ESTIMATE TO THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, PROBABLY A COUPLE THOUSAND A YEAR JUST TO MANAGE.

MORE QUESTIONS? YEAH, PHIL, HEY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THIS, UH, ANSWER GRAHAM, BUT DO WE KNOW WHAT THE HUMANE SOCIETY'S CAPACITY, UH, TO INTAKE MORE ANIMALS IS? AND DO WE HAVE SPACE AT OUR, AT THE ANIMAL SHELTER IN EL CAJON? THAT'S KIND OF A, THAT'S A PRETTY DETAILED QUESTION THERE.

THERE'S CAPACITY AND, AND THIS IS NOT, I DON'T THINK IF THIS, IF THIS PROGRAM IS IMPLEMENTED AND MAYBE EL CAJON HOMELESS PETS ARE DIFFERENT THAN THAT OF CARLSBAD'S, I STILL CAN'T IMAGINE THERE WOULD BE MORE THAN ONE OR TWO A MONTH.

AND SO I THINK THERE'S CAPACITY FOR THAT FOR, IN TERMS OF SPACE.

YEAH, I'M SURE.

I'M SORT OF TAGGING ON TO MR. ORTIZ.

I READ RECENTLY THAT THEY WERE AT CAPACITY AND THEY ARE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE NOT TO EVEN BRING DOGS IN.

AND THIS WAS, THAT'S NOT A CAPACITY ISSUE.

THAT'S, THERE'S A, UM, A VIRUS SPREADING THROUGH THE PET COMMUNITY.

AND SO THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT CONTAMINATING OTHER PETS.

SO, AND IT'S, THEY'RE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE NOT TO RELINQUISH THEIR ANIMALS TO THE HUMAN HUMANE SOCIETY RIGHT NOW UNTIL THEY CAN GET THAT VIRUS UNDER CONTROL.

I JUST BRIEFLY READ THE REPORT.

YEAH.

SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

NO, BUT YEAH, I MEAN, THAT, THAT JUST HIT THE PAPER RECENTLY, BUT THAT'S NOT A CAPACITY ISSUE.

WELL, I'M CONCERNED THAT 14 DAYS IS NOT LONG ENOUGH FOR SOMEONE THAT HAS A DRUG ADDICTION TO, TO OVERCOME IT.

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UH, SO I'M, THAT'S ONE OF MY BIG CONCERNS.

UH, ALTHOUGH THE FACT THAT IT DOESN'T REALLY COST US ANYTHING UNTIL WE GET PEOPLE IN THERE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ONCE WE GET SOMEONE IN THERE THAT'S TO GET OFF OF DRUGS, THAT THAT'S WORTH SOMETHING.

SO, UH, AND I, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE UH, PROGRAM IS.

I THINK LIKE EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER IS ABOUT NINE MONTHS LONG.

SO, UH, THAT'S, UH, THAT WOULDN'T HELP TOO MUCH ABOUT THE, THE BARRIER OF GIVING UP THEIR ANIMAL.

AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE HOMELESS PEOPLE, UH, THEIR DOG IS THE ONLY ONE LEFT THAT LOVES THEM, AND SO THEY REALLY CARE ABOUT THAT DOG.

BUT ALSO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FACT THAT MAYBE IT'S JUST ANOTHER EXCUSE.

SO I, I'M TORN ON THIS ISSUE RIGHT NOW.

MAYBE WE COULD DO A SIX MONTH PROGRAM AND JUST SEE IF THERE'S ANY DEMAND AT ALL.

I, I THINK THE CONCERN IS, IS A SIX MONTH IS GONE FROM KENNELING TO A KIND OF A DIFFERENT TYPE OF A PROGRAM.

IT'S, YOU'RE NO LONGER SHORT-TERM KENNELING YOU, YOU'VE, YOU'VE BECOME THE DEFACTO OWNER AFTER A SIX MONTH PERIOD.

I, I DON'T KNOW IF THE HUMANE SOCIETY, WE CAN, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WANTS US TO, BRO, WE CAN BROACH THAT.

UM, BUT THAT BECOMES PRETTY COSTLY OVER A SIX MONTH PERIOD.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE THE INCLINATION TO DO THAT TYPE OF KENNELING, BUT IF, AGAIN, THE COUNCIL DIRECTS, WE CAN, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT REALLY.

I'D LIKE TO GET THE OPINION OF MY, UH, FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS ON THIS.

ARE WE AT COMMENT? CAN WE, YEAH, LET ME SEE IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S ANY, UH, UH, SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM.

WE HAVE NO SPEAKER CARDS.

OKAY, THEN YES, WE'RE A COMMENT.

YY YEAH.

I, I, I'M, I'M TORN AS WELL WITH THIS.

I MEAN, I, I LIKE THE IDEA AND I LIKE THAT OUR COUNCIL IS CONTINUING TO LEAD WITH REGARD TO IDEAS AND REMOVING BARRIERS.

UM, FOR, FOR HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS.

I, I LOVE THAT WE'RE TRYING SOMETHING.

WE HAVE TO TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.

UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT DOESN'T, IN, IN MY PURVIEW, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S, UH, GOING TO WORK FOR A COUPLE DIFFERENT REASONS.

ONE 14 DAYS MAX WITH CARLSBAD, WITH REGARD TO PEOPLE GETTING OFF DRUGS AND TO COUNCILMAN, UH, KENDRICK'S POINT, YOU JUST NEED LONG-TERM BOARDING.

UM, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S A, A GOOD FIT.

AND I WOULDN'T BE INCLINED TO, AS OUR CITY MANAGER SAID, BE BE THE DEFACTO OWNER OF A, OF AN ANIMAL.

THE OTHER CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS WE'RE WE'RE GONNA BE A MAGNET FOR THIS PROGRAM, POTENTIALLY.

MM-HMM.

, UM, AND, AND BRING MORE PEOPLE WITH ANIMALS INTO OUR CITY.

AND I THINK EVERYONE ON THIS, UH, COUNCIL AS COMPASSIONATE, BUT I THINK THERE'S COMPASSION FATIGUE OCCURRING AND TO ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST, UH, MORE EXCUSES AFTER THE, THE ANIMAL EXCUSE OF NOT WANTING TO RECEIVE SERVICES.

UM, SO I LOVE THIS IDEA.

IF ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY WANTS TO GIVE IT A STAB, ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS, UM, I THINK IT'S, IT'S OUT THERE.

AND, AND EXPLORING ALTERNATIVE SHELTER OPTIONS WITH BOARDING, UM, WITH BOARDING, PRIVATE BOARDING FACILITIES COULD BE AN OPTION AS WELL.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF ANOTHER CITY JUMPS ON AND THEY NEED FUNDING, WE COULD HELP FUND, YOU KNOW, A GRANT PROCESS IF THEY NEED A LONG-TERM SOLUTION, YOU KNOW, BUT TAKING RESPONSIBILITY, UM, FOR PETS AND THE MAGNET AND THE EXCUSES, YOU KNOW, IT JUST DOESN'T, IT'S A COOL IDEA, BUT I DON'T SEE IT, UM, CHANGING THE LANDSCAPE DRASTICALLY.

SO THAT'S MY OPINION.

I, I JUST WANNA ASK MR. KENDRICK, ARE YOU SAYING YOU WANNA TRY THE PROGRAM FOR SIX MONTHS OR YOU WANT TO OFFER A SIX MONTH FOSTERING, SO TO SPEAK? WELL, ACTUALLY, UH, BASED UPON THE INFORMATION FROM CARLSBAD, JUST NOT DOING ANY GOOD UP THERE.

RIGHT.

SO I I, WE LOOKED AT IT, WE GOT THE INFORMATION, WE HAVE ALL THE DATA, AND ACCORDING TO ALL THE DATA THAT IT, IT IS JUST NOT GONNA WORK.

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AND I AGREE, AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THIS WERE TO COME UP AGAIN, I THINK IF WE GOT A LOT OF REQUESTS, OH, I, I REALLY WANNA DO THIS.

IF WE'RE ACTUALLY BEING ASKED, CAN SOMEONE HELP ME WITH MY ANIMALS? MAYBE THEN WE SHOULD ADDRESS THE ISSUE.

THEN WE'VE LOOKED AT IT.

I I SAY WE, WE RECEIVED THE REPORT.

NO FURTHER ACTION.

WELL, BEFORE YOU GO THERE, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU A DIFFERENT, A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE FROM A CLINICAL POINT OF VIEW.

FROM A PRACTICAL POINT OF VIEW.

PROB PROBABLY, UH, GRAHAM'S RIGHT IN, IN MY EXPERIENCE WORKING IN THE EMERGENCY ROOMS AND, AND OFFERING HOMELESS PEOPLE OPTIONS, UM, ONE OF THE OPTIONS THEY WOULD OFTENTIMES GIVE ME WAS THE ANIMAL ISSUE.

AND THEN EVEN IF I SAID, WELL, I'LL SEND SOMEBODY OUT TO PICK UP YOUR ANIMAL, WE'LL GET YOUR CAT FED.

WELL, THEY'D SAY, WELL, YEAH, WELL MAYBE, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'D GIMME SOME OTHER EXCUSE.

BUT THERE'S SOMETHING TO BE SAID FOR BREAKING DOWN THOSE BARRIERS.

AND FOR CON FORCING PEOPLE, NOT MAYBE AT THE FIRST TIME YOU DO THIS, BUT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME WHEN YOU ARE TALKING TO PEOPLE, WHEN OUR POLICE OFFICER ARE TALKING TO PEOPLE TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME, AND THEY SAY, WELL, I CAN'T BECAUSE OF MY ANIMAL POLICE OFFICER SAYS, WELL, GUESS WHAT? WE ARE GONNA, WE HAVE A PROGRAM FOR YOUR ANIMAL.

OKAY, WELL, UH, NOW I CAN'T BECAUSE OF THIS REASON.

OVER A PERIOD OF TIME, THE CLINICIAN, OR IN THIS CASE, THE POLICE OFFICER GETS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, WELL, WAIT A SECOND, WE'VE BOUND THAT DOWN THIS ROAD BEFORE.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE YOU ALWAYS HAVE A REASON.

AT WHAT POINT ARE YOU GONNA GET SERIOUS AND GET YOURSELF SOME TREATMENT? SO IT, IT DOES KIND OF CUT OUT A LITTLE BIT OF THE, OF THE EXCUSE PROCESS.

SO I THINK THERE'S VALUE IN THAT.

UM, I ALSO THINK THERE'S VALUE IN, IN SHOWING THE PEOPLE ON THE STREET AND THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITIES AROUND US THAT WE'RE NOT HARDHEARTED ABOUT THESE THINGS.

YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE WE'RE, WE, WHAT WE SOMETIMES TAKE, KIND OF TAKE A TOUGHER APPROACH ON HOMELESSNESS THAN SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES DO.

WE, WE DON'T ALLOW CAMPING ON OUR STREETS.

IT'S VERY EASY TO SAY THAT WE'RE COMPLETELY HARDHEARTED ABOUT THIS.

I, YOU KNOW, I THINK BY OFFERING A PROGRAM LIKE THIS, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S NOT GONNA BE USED VERY MUCH, IT'S NOT GONNA BANKRUPT US.

I, I DON'T SEE, I SEE THERE'S A, THERE'S SOME PR BENEFIT TO IT WITHOUT, WITHOUT A LOT OF SIGNIFICANT COST.

AND THEN AS FAR AS, SO I WOULD BE ENCOURAGED OF DOING IT.

I I THINK 14 DAYS YOU'RE RIGHT, IS NOT PRACTICAL IN AS SENSE AT ALL.

BUT I DO THINK ONCE YOU'VE BEEN SOBER FOR 30 DAYS, THEN YOU REEVALUATE THE SITUATION WITH, WITH A MUCH MORE SERIOUS MIND.

AND AT THAT POINT, YOU'RE A LOT MORE ABLE TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'VE GOTTA STAY IN THIS PROGRAM FOR ANOTHER SIX MONTHS, OR I'M GONNA DIE.

IT'S BETTER TO LET MY DOG BE ADOPTED OUT AT THIS POINT.

SO I THINK IF WE, IF WE HAD MADE IT 30 DAYS, IT'D BE A, A MORE REASONABLE SITUATION.

SO, UM, I, I DON'T FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THIS.

IF YOU ALL FEEL LIKE IT, IT, IT SHOULD BE SHELVED AND NOT, NOT LOOKED AT, THAT'S FINE.

WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD DO A PRO, UH, A PILOT PROGRAM FOR SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR.

WE SHOULD TRY, UH, A 30 DAY, UH, POTENTIAL OF, OF THE DOG OR CAT STAYING IN, IN THE SHELTER FOR THAT LONG.

AND THEN WE COME BACK AND REEVALUATE AT THE END OF THE TIME AND WE SEE WHAT'S, IF THERE'S ANY BENEFIT TO THIS, WHAT THE COMMUNITY'S SAYING.

ARE PEOPLE USING IT? WHAT E-C-T-L-C IS SAYING? AND COME BACK TO IT.

WELL, MR. MAYOR, YOUR OPINION CARRIES GREAT WEIGHT WITH ME BECAUSE YOU HAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE DEALING WITH THE HOMELESS AND THE MENTALLY ILL.

UH, SO YOU THINK THAT AFTER 30 DAYS, THEY'RE CLEAR HEADED ENOUGH TO MAKE SOME SORT OF RATIONAL DECISION.

DO I WANNA DIE IN THE GUTTER OR DO I WANNA GIVE UP MY PET? I THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE A LOT MORE CLEARHEADED THAN YOU ARE ON THE DAY THAT YOU JUST WERE USING AND SOMEBODY'S TALKING TO YOU ABOUT GETTING OFF THE STREETS.

BECAUSE AS GRAHAM POINTED OUT, IT'S NOT ABOUT, IT'S NOT ABOUT THE DOG.

IT'S ABOUT NOT WANTING TO GIVE UP YOUR DRUGS AND ALCOHOL, BUT USING THE DOG AS AN EXCUSE.

ONCE YOU'VE BEEN CLEAN FOR 26, 27 DAYS AND YOUR 30 DAYS COMING UP WHEN YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.

NOW YOU'VE, YOU'VE HAD SOME SUCCESS IN THE PROGRAM, YOU HAVE FRIENDS IN THE PROGRAM, IT'S WORKING.

YOU'RE, YOU FEEL THE BEST YOU'VE FELT IN SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS AND YOU SAY, UM, YOU KNOW WHAT, I HATE TO GIVE UP MY DOG, BUT AT THIS POINT, I'M NOT GOOD TO ANYBODY IF I'M DEAD.

AND THEN THEY PROBABLY HAVE PEOPLE THEY REALIZE ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THEM, YOU KNOW, FRIENDS IN THE PROGRAM AND, AND ALL THAT.

THAT KIND OF ENTERS INTO IT THEN.

AND, AND I'M ASSUMING AT, AT, AT SOME POINT YOU'D

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BE ABLE TO GO BACK TO THE HUMANE SOCIETY AND SAY, WE, WE NEED TO GET THIS DOG SOMEBODY, WE WANT TO HAVE SOMEBODY COME AND TAKE THE DOG.

CAN YOU GIVE US ANOTHER FEW DAYS? GIVE US ANOTHER WEEK.

SO LET'S LOOK AT THE COST BENEFIT ON THIS.

SO THE COST INITIATING A PROGRAM PROGRAM IS PROBABLY A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS INITIALLY.

SO THE, AND THEN IF NOBODY ENTERS THE PROGRAM, UH, ASK THE CITY MANAGER, THEN IT DOESN'T COST US ANYTHING.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

JUST THE, THE COST OF IMPLEMENTATION.

SO, AND IF SOMEONE DOES ENTER THE PROGRAM FOR 30 DAYS, UH, DID THEY TAKE CARE OF THE DOG? HOW MUCH WOULD THEY CHARGE US? PROBABLY, OR WE DON'T REALLY KNOW YET.

WELL, IF THEY WERE TO, IF YOU WERE TO APPLY THAT SAME RATE THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY $20 A DAY, IT ENDS UP BEING ABOUT $650, INCLUDING THOSE INTAKE FEES.

SO IF WE DO HAVE SUCCESS AND THE GUY GETS INTO THE PROGRAM AND REALIZES BY DAY 30 THAT HE WANTS TO LIVE, UH, IN EXCHANGE FOR GIVING UP THE DOG MAY OR MAY NOT GET THE DOG BACK, UM, FOR A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS MAY HAVE SAVED THE GUY'S LIFE.

SO THAT EXPENSE TO ME WOULD BE WORTHWHILE.

AND THEN, AND AS THE MAYOR SAID IT, IT TAKES AWAY ONE MORE EXCUSE WHEN HE IS TALKING WITH THE POLICE OR SOMEONE, SOME FROM SOCIAL SERVICES.

SO, SO OUR FIXED COST IS $2,000 FOR A YEAR OR WHATEVER PER, YOU KNOW, OR SIX MONTHS.

AND THEN OUR VARIABLE COST IS A FEW HUNDRED FOR, FOR 30 DAYS.

BUT BOY, IF HE STAYS IN FOR 30 DAYS, I, I THINK THERE'S A REALLY GOOD CHANCE THAT HE'S GONNA KEEP WITH THE PROGRAM.

TO ME, THAT'S WORTHWHILE.

AND SO IT, IT IS A, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ONLY SPENDING A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS IF WE GET, IF WE DON'T GET ANY TAKERS, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S WORTH THAT MONEY TO ME TO SEE IF IT REALLY HAPPENS.

WE'VE HEARD OVER AND OVER THE PUBLIC IS ASKING US DO SOMETHING.

WE ELECTED YOU TO DO SOMETHING FOR ABOUT HOMELESSNESS.

IT'S THE NUMBER ONE PROBLEM FACING, UH, NOT JUST CA CAJON, BUT GREATER SOCIETY.

SO I AGREE WITH YOU, MR. MAYOR.

WE WILL DO SOMETHING.

I I WOULD SAY A ONE YEAR PILOT.

I AGREE WITH YOU.

UH, 30 DAYS, I AGREE WITH YOU.

UH, AFTER 30 DAYS, WE COULD LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

UH, AS FAR AS A MAX AMOUNT, I WOULD SUGGEST $30,000 FOR A MAXIMUM PROGRAM AMOUNT FOR THIS PILOT PROGRAM.

UH, I DO THINK WE HAVE SPACE AT THE SHELTER.

LAST TIME I HEARD, IF WE WANNA PUT SOMEBODY IN, THEY RESHUFFLE THEIR EL CAJON CAPACITY TO OTHER THINGS BECAUSE IT'S OUR SHELTER, NOT BONITA'S SHELTER OR SOMEBODY ELSE'S SHELTER.

AND THEY, THEY SHUFFLE HERE AND THEY SHUFFLE AROUND.

SO I THINK WE'D HAVE SPACE FOR ONE OR TWO.

SO, UH, THIS IS ANOTHER SOLUTION THE PUBLIC HAS ASKED US TO TRY, AND I THINK WE SHOULD TRY IT.

SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR A ONE YEAR PILOT PROGRAM, UH, 30 DAY MAXIMUM STAY, 30,000 MAXIMUM PROGRAM COSTS.

AND WE'LL ADDRESS OTHER PROBLEMS AS THEY COME UP.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

PLEASE VOTE.

SO WE'LL, WE'LL, UH, REACH OUT TO THE HUMANE SOCIETY AND BRING BACK AN AGREEMENT FOR, UH, COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.

I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT THIS IS THE WAY THE GOVERNMENT'S SUPPOSED TO WORK.

ALL FIVE OF US TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION.

WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE WITH A LOT OF E EXPERTISE.

I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF EXPERTISE.

I LISTEN.

WE, WE LISTEN TO OUR COLLEAGUES HERE AND WE COME UP WITH SOMETHING.

I THINK THAT IS VERY REASONABLE.

I THANK THE MAYOR FOR HIS INPUT ON IT AND HIS EXPERTISE.

SECOND ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT ON TODAY'S AGENDA, ITEM 13 IS THE FISCAL YEAR 2023.

THE

[13. Fiscal Year 2023-24 First Quarter Report RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council: Increases or modifies Fiscal Year 2023-24 appropriations in the amount of $7,050,000 for additional needs as detailed in the report; Authorizes the proposed personnel changes detailed in the report; and Authorizes the proposed capital expenditures detailed in the report.]

2024 FIRST QUARTER REPORT.

AND I WILL ASK DIRECTOR OF FINANCE, CLAY SCHOEN TO PLEASE TELL US ABOUT THIS BACK FOR ROUND TWO, CLAY.

YOU BET.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS CLAY SHANE.

I'M THE FINANCE DIRECTOR OF THE CITY OF EL CAJON,

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AND I AM VERY HAPPY TO BE WITH YOU TODAY TO PRESENT THE FISCAL YEAR 2324 FIRST QUARTER REPORT FOR TODAY'S PRESENTATION.

WE'RE BRIEFLY GONNA SHARE, UH, PRELIMINARY RESULTS FOR LAST YEAR FISCAL YEAR 23, DISCUSS A SMALL NUMBER OF FY 24 BUDGET AMENDMENTS, SEEKING THE AUTHORIZATION AND APPROVAL OF A COUPLE OF HOUSEKEEPING ITEMS RELATED TO PERSONNEL AND CAPITAL OUTLAY.

AND THEN BRIEFLY DISCUSS THE, UH, UPCOMING REPORTING ITEMS FOR FISCAL YEAR 23.

UH, AS I SAID, THESE ARE PRELIMINARY NUMBERS.

WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE YEAR END PROCESS, SO WE STILL MAY SEE A LITTLE BIT OF MOVEMENT BEFORE THESE ARE CONSIDERED FINAL.

USUALLY THESE NUMBERS ARE CONSIDERED FINAL WHEN OUR AUDITORS ISSUE THEIR OPINION ALONG WITH THE AFER.

UH, IN FISCAL YEAR 23, UH, WE'RE, WE ARE, WE'RE LOOKING AT TOTAL GENERAL FUND REVENUES OF APPROXIMATELY $95 MILLION AGAINST EXPENDITURES OF APPROXIMATELY 93.3 MILLION.

THIS HAS A NET IMPACT ON GENERAL FUND, UH, FUND EQUITY OR FUND BALANCE OF APPROXIMATELY $1.7 MILLION.

THIS IS A, A SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER IMPACT ON, UH, RESERVES THAN WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED, UH, THROUGH THE, UH, ADOPTED BUDGET AS WELL AS THE AMENDMENTS DURING THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, WE EXPECTED TO CONSUME, UH, APPROXIMATELY $8.8 MILLION OF RESERVES.

SO RATHER THAN SHRINKING AND USING RESERVES, WE HAVE GROWN RESERVES.

AS I SAID, WE HAVE A SMALL NUMBER OF AMENDMENTS FOR THE 24 BUDGET, UM, FOR IN FACT, THE FIRST OF WHICH IS AN APPROPRIATION OF SEWER FUND FUND EQUITY FOR THE PURPOSES OF AN UPDATE TO THE SEWER MASTER PLAN.

AS I SAID, THIS IS WASTEWATER FUNDING.

UH, THE NEXT THREE ARE ALL FUNDED BY TRANSNET.

I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT AND POINT OUT THAT THESE ARE ALTERNATIVE FUNDING SOURCES AND HAVE NO GENERAL FUND IMPACT.

THERE IS NO, UH, GENERAL FUND MONEY INVOLVED WITH THESE, UH, AMENDMENTS.

THE OAKDALE ALAMEDA GATEWAY PROJECT INCLUDES $750,000 OF TRANSNET MONEY FOR SOME SIDEWALK WORK, UH, AND THEN THE OTHER TWO ARE VERY SIGNIFICANT IN MY OPINION.

APPROXIMATELY $6 MILLION OF TRANSNET MONEY TO EXPAND EXISTING SLURRY SEAL AND OVERLAY PROJECTS, UH, WITHIN THE CITY, UH, SHOULD REPRESENT A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, UH, IMPACT ON THE CONDITION OF CITY STREETS FOR OUR PERSONNEL ACTIONS, UH, THESE ARE POSITION AUTHORIZATIONS.

UM, NONE OF THESE CHANGES REQUIRE, UH, CHANGES TO THE DOLLARS, UH, ALREADY AUTHORIZED.

UH, THIS IS JUST AN AUTHORIZATION FOR POSITIONS, THE FIRST OF WHICH IS A RECLASSIFICATION THAT HAS ALREADY OCCURRED AND AUTHORIZED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, THE RECLASSIFICATION OF A PARKS AND RECREATION MANAGER TO A DEPUTY DIRECTOR.

THE SECOND ONE IS SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FOR THE CITY OF EL CAJON.

AN IDEA THAT OTHER CITIES AND AGENCIES USE.

UH, IT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN IT USED HERE IN EL CAJON, AND IT'S AN IDEA OF AUTHORIZING A SERIES OF CLASSIFICATIONS.

THESE CLASSIFICATIONS REPRESENT STAFF ENGINEERING WORK AND CURRENTLY THIS WORK IS BEING DONE BY A MIXTURE OF THREE SEPARATE CLASSIFICATIONS.

THE DILEMMA IS, UH, THESE CLASSIFICATIONS HAVE BEEN APPROVED AND AUTHORIZED IN THE BUDGET, UM, INDIVIDUALLY AND DEPENDING ON THE CONDITIONS IN THE JOB MARKET, SOMETIMES IT'S ADVANTAGEOUS TO HIRE SOMEONE STRAIGHT OUTTA SCHOOL WITH NO EXPERIENCE.

SOMETIMES WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BRING SOMEONE ON THAT HAS SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER EXPERIENCE AS A RESULT THAT REQUIRES US TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF SHUFFLING OF AUTHORIZATIONS IN ONE OF THESE INSTEAD OF ONE OF THOSE AND THAT KIND OF THING.

SO THE IDEA THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR YOUR APPROVAL ON, IN THIS CASE IS APPROVING THESE CLASSIFICATIONS AS A SERIES OF POSITIONS.

SO THERE ARE SIX CLASS OR SIX FTES IN TOTAL.

SO THERE'S NO CHANGE IN THE TOTAL NUMBER OF POSITIONS, BUT WE'RE ASKING THE CITY COUNCIL TO AUTHORIZE THESE POSITIONS TO BE FILLED AT ANY OF THOSE THREE LEVELS.

AND THAT'S ALL DRIVEN BY EXPERIENCE OF THE CANDIDATE.

UM, CITY COUNCIL POLICY REQUIRES, UH, EXPLICIT APPROVAL OF CAPITAL OUTLAY ITEMS OVER $25,000.

WE ARE PRESENTING TWO FOR YOUR APPROVAL.

UH, THE FIRST OF WHICH IS EXECUTIVE TIME SOFTWARE.

THIS IS SCHEDULING SOFTWARE THAT RUNS IN CONJUNCTION WITH, UH, MUNIS PAYROLL.

UM, EVENTUALLY THIS WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS, BUT WE WILL BE PILOTING IT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

IT ALLOWS US TO TAKE WORK SCHEDULES OUT OF ONE SYSTEM AND USE THAT AS THE BASIS OF INPUTTING TIME INTO UNITS FOR PAYROLL SO THAT WE'RE REMOVING THE REDUNDANCY OF HAVING TO DO IT TWICE.

THE SECOND IS

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A FOLLOW-UP ITEM.

UH, THIS WAS ADDRESSED LAST YEAR, UM, AND A PORTION OF IT'S CARRYING IT OVER INTO THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR AS WELL.

UH, THIS IS FOR ADDITIONAL SPORTS NETTING, UM, THINK THE, THE NETTING THAT HANGS BEHIND SPORTS FIELDS TO KEEP BALLS FROM GOING INTO PEOPLE'S YARDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UH, THE EXECUTIVE SOFTWARE WE'RE ESTIMATING TO BE AT $35,000 AND THE SPORTS FIELD NETTING AT 40,000.

WE'RE FINALLY BEGINNING TO GET OUR LEGS UNDERNEATH US, UH, FOLLOWING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR NEW ACCOUNTING SYSTEM.

AND OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, WE WILL BE GETTING CAUGHT UP ON A NUMBER OF REPORTING ITEMS, UH, MAYBE AS EARLY AS THE VERY NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

UH, WE HOPE TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU WITH AN UPDATE ON THE CITY'S INVESTMENT POLICY AS WELL AS CLEARING THE BACKLOG OF TREASURER'S REPORTS AND HOPEFULLY HAVE THE ANNUAL PENSION REPORT READY FOR, UH, YOUR DIGESTION.

UM, IN THE SPRING WE EXPECT TO HAVE THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT, AND THEN BY THE TIME WE GET TO THE MID-YEAR REPORT AND THE FISCAL YEAR 25 BUDGET, WE EXPECT TO BE CAUGHT UP AND BACK ON SCHEDULE.

SO WITH THAT, SPECIFICALLY IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS REPORT, WE'RE ASKING FOR THREE SPECIFIC, UH, ACTIONS.

THE FIRST OF WHICH IS TO INCREASE OR MODIFY THE FY 24 BUDGET FOR THE FOUR ITEMS WE DISCUSSED TOTALING $7 MILLION AS WELL AS AUTHORIZING THE PROPOSED PERSONNEL CHANGES AND CAPITAL OUTLAY ITEMS. AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANKS, CLAY.

LEMME SEE IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS.

YEAH, GARY? YEAH, CLAY, UH, WITH THE, UH, EX, UH, THE INCREASE IN OUR REVENUES THAT, YOU KNOW, IN UNEXPECTED AND, AND THIS RIGHT HERE, WHAT WOULD THAT MAKE OUR RESERVES AT RIGHT NOW? GENERALLY? WELL, WITH OUR PRELIMINARY NUMBERS, UH, WE'RE EXPECTING TO CLOSE WITH GENERAL FUND RESERVES OF APPROXIMATELY $62.3 MILLION, AND THAT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 68% OF ANNUAL EXPENDITURES FOR THE SAME YEAR.

AND I, I KNOW THAT THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITY SAID WE SHOULD HAVE 20% OF OUR BUDGET AS RESERVES.

WHAT DO WE HAVE NOW? UH, APPROXIMATELY 68%.

OH, THAT'S VERY HEALTHY AND PRUDENT.

YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CLAY? CLAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ANGELA, ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS ITEM? THERE ARE NO SPEAKER CARDS, SIR.

ALRIGHT, IT'S BACK TO, UM, COUNSEL FOR DISCUSSION.

SEEMS LIKE A HOUSEKEEPING KIND OF THING.

SOMEBODY I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF THE THREE ITEMS IN THE STAFF REPORT AGENDA REPORT.

SECOND.

ALRIGHT, PLEASE VOTE.

14 IS MY ACTIVITY REPORT, AND IT IS AS REPORTED OFF

THERE ARE NO COMMISSION REPORTS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

ITEM

[14. Council Activity Report]

[15. DEPUTY MAYOR STEVE GOBLE MTS (Metropolitan Transit System Board); East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority Board; Chamber of Commerce – Government Affairs Committee; SANDAG – Board of Directors – Alternate; SANDAG Public Safety Committee – Alternate.]

TO ACTIVITY REPORT OF MR. GOBEL, UH, AS REPORTED WITH A COUPLE EXTRA THINGS MTS UH, WE TALKED LAST THURSDAY ABOUT THE EXTENSION TO THE AIRPORT.

THERE ARE THREE OPTIONS, AN ELEVATED PEOPLE MOVER, MUCH LIKE THE MONORAIL AT DISNEYLAND, A TROLLEY EXTENSION OFF OF SAY, SANTA FE DEPOT AND INCREASED BUS SERVICE.

THE MTS BOARD SEEMED TO FAVOR THE TROLLEY EXTENSION BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO HAVE AN ELEVATED, UH, PEOPLE MOVER GOING OVER THE SAME SPACE AS A TROLLEY GOING DOWN THE STREET.

SO WE SAID IT WOULD COST LESS AND WOULD ENCOURAGE MORE PEOPLE TO USE THE TROLLEY IF THERE'S ACTUALLY A TROLLEY EXTENSION TO THE AIRPORT.

AND WE THOUGHT ABOUT PEOPLE WITH LUGGAGE AND KIDS AND NOT HAVING, GOING UP THREE STORIES TO A PEOPLE MOVER OR TWO STEPS ON A BUS.

SO, UH, THE MT S BOARD FELT IT WAS THE BEST SOLUTION TO RECOMMEND TO SANDAG.

MERIDIAN BAPTIST CHURCH HAS THE SIX TINY HOMES.

PASTOR OLAND SLATE INFORMED ME 11 OF THE 15 PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN HOUSED IN THAT THOSE SIX CABINS OVER THE PAST YEAR HAVE MOVED ON TO MORE PERMANENT HOUSING.

11 OF THE 15 PEOPLE, TWO OF THEM DROPPED OUT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE RULES AND TWO OF THEM DROPPED OUT BECAUSE THEY JUST DIDN'T WANT TO TRY TO MOVE ALONG.

UH, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN IN THE NEWS THAT THE COUNTY OFFERED TO PAY FOR PALLET HOMES FOR ANY SITE LIKE MERIDIAN WHO WOULD HOST THEM.

I DON'T THINK THAT GOES FAR ENOUGH BECAUSE SOMEBODY WOULD SAY, WELL, WHAT, WHAT'S, WHY SHOULD WE DO THIS? IF WE COULD SIT, I'M GONNA TRY TO PROPOSE TO THE COUNTY SOMEHOW THAT SITES LIKE MERIDIAN GET A THOUSAND DOLLARS PER UNIT AS A STIPEND TO HOST SOMEBODY.

SO IN THIS CASE, PASTOR ROLAND WOULD GET $6,000 PER MONTH FOR HIS SIX CABINS

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THAT IS CHEAPER THAN THE $6,000 A MONTH WE PAY PER PERSON FOR A MOTEL VOUCHER.

AS REPORTED, MR. KENDRICK

WATCH, UH, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE BETTER GOVERNMENT TO ME.

SO IT WOULD BE A TOTAL OUTLAY OF, OF $6,000 VERSUS $36,000.

I THINK IF WE STARTED TO DO THAT, UH, YOU WOULD SEE MORE SITES WANTING TO BE THESE TINY HOMES THINGS.

AND THAT MAKES MORE SENSE TO ME.

THANK YOU MR. ORTIZ.

[18. COUNCILMEMBER PHIL ORTIZ League of California Cities, San Diego Division; East County Economic Development Council; MTS (Metropolitan Transit System Board) – Alternate; East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority Board – Alternate; Chamber of Commerce – Government Affairs Committee – Alternate.]

[16. COUNCILMEMBER GARY KENDRICK METRO Commission/Wastewater JPA; Heartland Communications; Heartland Fire Training JPA.]

AS REPORTED, MS. MITCHELL

[17. COUNCILMEMBER MICHELLE METSCHEL Harry Griffen Park Joint Steering Committee; METRO Commission/Wastewater JPA – Alternate; Heartland Communications – Alternate; Heartland Fire Training JPA – Alternate.]

AS REPORTED.