Apr 09, 2019 City Council Meeting 3pm

[00:00:05]

[ CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Bill Wells]

THE MEETING IS CALLED THE ORDER.

I LIKE TO ASK THE CITY COURT TO CALL THE ROLE COUNCIL MEMBER.

MCCLELLAN IS ABSENT.

ALL OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

WOULD YOU ALL THEN STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF LEADERS AND THEY REMAINED STEADY FOR A BRIEF MOMENT OF SILENCE AFTERWARDS, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU.

[ POSTINGS: The City Clerk posted Orders of Adjournment of the March 26, 2019, Meeting and the Agenda of the April 9, 2019, Meeting in accordance to State Law and Council/Authority/Successor Agency to the Redevelopment Agency Policy.]

THE CITY CLERK POSTED ORDERS OF A GERMAN OF THE MARCH 26TH, 2019 MEETING AND THE AGENDA OF THE APRIL 9TH, 2019 MEETING IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY POLICY.

WE HAVE NO PRESENTATIONS TODAY AND THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA CHANGES.

STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANY AGENDA CHANGES? MR MAYOR? WE HAVE NO CHANGES TO THE AGENDA.

COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY AGENDA CHANGES? NOPE.

THAT BRINGS

[7. CONSENT ITEMS: Consent Items are routine matters enacted by one motion according to the RECOMMENDATION listed below. With the concurrence of the City Council, a Council Member or person in attendance may request discussion of a Consent Item at this time. ]

IT ACTED BY ONE MOTION ACCORDING TO THE RECOMMENDATION LIST OF BELOW WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

A COUNCIL MEMBER OR PERSON IN ATTENDANCE MAY REQUEST DISCUSSION OF A CONSENT ITEM AT THIS TIME.

COUNCIL MEMBERS DO WISH TO PULL ANY OF THE CONSENT ITEMS? NO.

OKAY.

STAFF JEWISH BOY.

OH WELL WHICH ONE? ALL RIGHT.

MR MR GOLD WANTS TO PULL NUMBER NINE.

STAFF DO WISH TO FULLY CONSENT ITEMS. NO SIR.

ANGELA DID VERY STRICT CARDS FOR THE CONSENT ITEMS. NO CARDS, SIR.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT NUMBER NINE THEN I'LL SEE ALL THE LEGAL DEAL.

THIS IS A LARGE ITEM AND I THINK THERE ARE SOME NICE NUGGETS OF BENEFIT TO THE PEOPLE THAT AND YOUR, SO I'M GOING TO ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO EXPLAIN A COUPLE OF THINGS.

UM, WE'VE SET ASIDE ABOUT $9 MILLION IN RESERVES AS I UNDERSTAND TO UH, PAY FOR WHAT MIGHT'VE BEEN CHARGED FROM THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO GOING BACK MANY YEARS, PERHAPS NINE YEARS OR SO.

AND UH, YOU WERE ABLE TO GET THAT DOWN TO 5.1 MILLION.

AND THE EVEN THAT THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO WANTED 5.1 MILLION FROM US FOR PAST CAPITAL EXPENDITURES AND YOU WERE ABLE TO GET THE 5.1 DOWN TO 3.6 CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THOSE SAVINGS? THANK YOU MR GOBLE.

THERE'S A LOT GOING ON WITH THIS AGENDA ITEM AS YOU CAN SEE PARTLY AS AN ONGOING AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE TO TREAT OUR WASTEWATER.

AS YOU RECALL, THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO THROUGH METRO TREATS OUR WASTEWATER.

SO PART OF THE THIS ACTION TONIGHT IS REVIEWING THAT.

BUT THE BIGGER PART, THE ONE THAT YOU BROUGHT UP HAS TO DO WITH AN OUTSTANDING OBLIGATION THAT THE CITY HAS HAD FOR ABOUT 15 YEARS.

AND FRANKLY FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS, OUR STAFF AND THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO STAFF HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO RESOLVE WHAT THAT EXACT AMOUNT IS FOR SOME CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS AT THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO TOOK ON THAT THEY FELT WE HAD SOME OBLIGATION FOR UM, BECAUSE WE WEREN'T SURE WHAT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT WOULD EVENTUALLY LAND ON.

WE'VE, WE HAVE RESERVED NINE POINT $8 MILLION FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS IN OUR SORT OF AS A SET ASIDE IN OUR FUND TO ACCOMMODATE THAT LIABILITY WHEN THAT DAY WOULD COME.

OUR STAFF, UH, PUBLIC WORKS STAFF DID A GREAT JOB IN WORKING WITH THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO AND COMING TO AN AGREEMENT ON WHAT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT SHOULD BE.

AND IF YOU COMBINE SORT OF ITEMS NUMBER TWO AND THREE OR ACTUALLY NUMBERS, YES, THREE AND FOUR OF THE AGENDA, IT COMES OUT TO ABOUT FOUR POINT $5 MILLION AND THAT THAT IS SOME OUTSTANDING LIABILITY THAT WE'VE BEEN CARRYING FOR YEARS AND YEARS.

BUT WE'RE ABLE TO RESOLVE THAT FOR THAT 4.5 WHICH IS ALLOWING THE CITY NOW TO PUT ABOUT FOUR POINT $3 MILLION BACK INTO YOUR WASTEWATER ENTERPRISE FUND, WHICH WILL HELP OFFSET FUTURE INCREASES IN THE RATES.

THAT'S GREAT.

SO NOT ONLY DO WE GET TO KEEP $4 MILLION TO OFFSET FUTURE RATE INCREASES, BUT YOU NEGOTIATED 5.1 MILLION DOWN TO 3.6 MILLION.

THAT WAS A GOOD ONE AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS SAVINGS FOR THE PEOPLE AT OKLAHOMA AND $891,000 IN OPERATIONS.

WE SHOULDN'T BE ALARMED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT ACTUALLY COVERS 2012 TO 2018 THAT'S NOT A ONE YEAR FIGURE.

SO THAT'S A LUMP SUM THAT WE'RE DONE WITH.

SO GREAT WORK BY STAFF IN NEGOTIATING IN A RESERVING AND IN MAKING MONEY AVAILABLE TO HELP OFFSET FUTURE RATE INCREASES.

THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD WIN FOR THE PEOPLE.

THANK YOU.

WELL THAT'S GREAT.

UM,

[00:05:01]

UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THEN TO APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS. SORRY.

SECONDED.

PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT

[ PUBLIC COMMENT: At this time, any person may address a matter within the jurisdiction of the City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the El Cajon Redevelopment Agency that is not on the Agenda. Comments relating to items on today’s docket are to be taken at the time the item is heard. State law prohibits discussion or action on items not on the Agenda; however, Council, Authority and Agency Members may briefly respond to statements or questions. An item may be placed on a future Agenda.]

AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS A MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE L CONE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.

THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

COMMENTS RELATING TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA ARE TO BE TAKEN AT THE TIME THAT THE AMA HAS HEARD.

STATE LAW PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ITEMS THAT ARE NOT ON THE AGENDA.

HOWEVER, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND HOUSING AUTHORITY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY YOU SPONSOR STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS AND AN ITEM MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

ANGELA, DO YOU HAVE ANY CARDS UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT? YES SIR.

WE HAVE THREE SPEAKERS.

THE FIRST ONE IS CHARLES HOFFMAN.

HELLO SIR.

WELCOME TODAY.

THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TO YOU.

I PULLED THE MICROPHONE DOWN A LITTLE.

IT'S OKAY HERE.

YEAH, THANKS.

MY UH, PROBLEM IS PARKING.

I LIVE, UH, ON BERRIEDALE STREET, WHICH IS BERRIEDALE.

THERE'S, THERE'S THREE STREETS THAT COME TOGETHER, BEAR BURNETT AND ADELE.

IT'S JUST A LITTLE YOU.

IT'S RIGHT OFF OF BRADLEY, RIGHT NEAR THE CORNER OF BRADLEY AND MOLLISON UP THE STREET.

WE HAVE, BESIDES HAVING A MULTITUDE OF MOBILE HOME PARKS ON BRADLEY, WE HAVE A MULTITUDE OF LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEXES THAT DO NOT THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE COME ON OUR STREET, PARKED THERE, LEAVE THEIR CAR THERE FOR DAYS.

IN SOME CASES.

I HAD A CAR FOR NINE DAYS IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE.

I DIDN'T WANT TO BE A DUD AND CALL THE POLICE.

BUT UH, UH, IT, IT'S RIDICULOUS.

AND THIS IS ALL, THIS IS ALL CREATED BY THE CITY OF EL CAHONE IN THE WAY THEY, THEY, UH, SET THESE UP, THE, THE, UH, THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT CAN LIVE IN THESE THINGS, THE PARKING PROBLEMS IN THESE, IN THESE APARTMENTS.

AND THAT'S WRONG.

THAT'S, IT'S THERE.

IT'S A CITY OF RESPONSIBILITY TO GET THIS PARKING SITUATED.

UH, WE HAVE JUST HAD SOMEBODY FROM THE, UH, CITY DRIVING AROUND COMPLIANCE OFFICER I BELIEVE IS WHAT HE, WHO HE IS, BUT HE CAME AROUND ON OUR STREET AND WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALL THREE STREETS IS LEAVING OUR TRASH CANS OUT OFF THE CURB AND THE STREET TO SAVE THE PARKING PLACES FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE.

CAUSE IF NOT, YOU'RE IN TROUBLE.

I HAVE A NURSE THAT LIVES TWO HOUSES DOWN FROM ME.

SHE GETS OFF WORK AT FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.

SHE COMES HOME, CAN'T PARK IN FRONT OF HER HOUSE, HAS TO FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE TO PARK AND THEN WANDER THROUGH THESE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.

THEY LEAVE ALCOHOLIC BOTTLES, TRASH, NEEDLES, USE CONDOMS. UH, THEY'RE ALL DUMPED IN FRONT OF THE HOMES THAT PEOPLE ARE URINATING ON OUR FRONT YARDS, A STRANGER COMING AND GOING AT ALL HOURS.

IT'S, MY WIFE PULLS UP AT NIGHT AND CALLS ME BEFORE SHE GETS OUT OF THE CAR AND I COME OUT OF THE HOUSE AND MAKE SURE THERE'S NOBODY OUT WANDERING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOING.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND KEEP IT SAFE AND CLEAN.

UH, THE ALTERNATIVE IS THE PARK.

SINCE THE CITY DOES NOT POLICE THESE AREAS DOES NOT TICKET THESE CARS EVER ALONG.

BRADLEY ALONG OUR STREET AND THE OTHER TWO STREETS, NOBODY COMES AROUND MARK'S THE TIRES, TICKETS.

THESE PEOPLE, IF THE COMPLIANCE OFFICER WOULD SIMPLY DO THAT, HE COULD MAKE ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY HIS OWN SALARY AND PROBABLY TWO OR THREE OTHER PEOPLE.

THAT'S HOW MUCH MONEY THEY COULD MAKE OFF THIS PARKING AND DUMPING TRASH AROUND AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

OUR ALTERNATIVE IS A PERMITTED PARKING, WHICH WE'D LIKE TO DO.

WE WERE HERE THE LAST TIME WE WERE HERE WAS AT THESE, UH, STATE OF THE CITY ADDRESS AND WE TALKED TO A TAILOR, IS THAT HIS NAME? THE COMPLIANCE OFFICER.

UM, OKAY.

WE, HE TOLD US AT THE TIME THAT HE WOULD CHECK IT OUT AND UH, GET BACK TO US.

WELL, HE NEVER DID.

HE LEAVES MESSAGES ALREADY LEFT, MAILED EVERYBODY A LETTER SAYING YOU HAD TO GET YOUR TRASH CANS UP.

UH, NO SOONER THAN HAD TO PUT HIM ON THERE AND NO SOONER THAN TUESDAY NIGHT.

HAD TO BE BACK UP THURSDAY MORNING.

SHE'D BE FOR A SECOND.

SIR.

I DID.

WE HAVE A TIMER ON THIS TODAY.

I DIDN'T NOTICE IT.

IT'S OVER.

[00:10:02]

SORRY, I HAVE TO STOP YOU FOR A SECOND CAUSE WE'VE, WE'RE OUT OF TIME, BUT LET ME JUST ASK YOU A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

SURE.

UM, THESE APARTMENT COMPLEX, IS THAT, ARE THOSE RELATIVELY NEW? I DON'T REMEMBER THE, THE COMPLEXES.

HAVE THEY BEEN THERE AWHILE? ARE THEY NEW? IF I'VE BEEN HERE A WHILE.

SO THE, THE, THE COMPLEX, THE APARTMENTS THAT ARE CAUSING YOUR TROUBLE, THE TRAILER PARKS HAVE ALL BEEN THERE SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE.

THAT THE MOST OF THE LARGER APARTMENT COMPLEX IS JUST, I HAVE NOT.

I MOVED IN THAT HOUSE IN 1971 WHETHER THE APARTMENT COMPLEX HAS COME WHEN OVER THE YEARS OUT OF THERE, THERE'S A TWO OR THREE UP ON SAM'S HILL OFF OF BRADLEY AND THERE'S A MORE ON OUR SIDE OF THE STREET.

THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR YEARS AND HOW LONG HAVE YOU FEEL IT, YOU FEEL LIKE THE PROBLEM HAS BEEN? THE PROBLEM IS NOT THAT OLD.

IT'S, IT'S PRETTY RECENT AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES.

WHY THE THE WE? I'VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR PARKING IN THE COMPLEXES OR THERE'S TOO MANY PEOPLE LIVING IN ONE APARTMENT THAT ALL HAVE CARS.

THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM.

PEOPLE DRIVE UP, THEY LET OFF TWO OR THREE PEOPLE.

THEY ALL GET IN THEIR CAR AND DRIVE OFF AND THEN THEY REVERSE IT.

WHEN THEY COME BACK, THEY ALL GET OUT, PARKED THEIR CARS AND GET IN ONE CAR AND LEAVE.

DO YOUR HOUSES HAVE OUR GARAGES FOR YOUR CARS? YES, THEY ARE.

PEOPLE USING THEIR GARAGES? PARDON ME? ARE THEY USING THEIR GARAGES FOR CAR PARKING OR MOST OF THEM PARK ON THE STREET TO SAVE THE PARKING PLACES.

THEY CAN'T PARK IN THEIR GARAGE.

IN A LOT OF CASE, A LOT OF THE HOUSES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE INCOME.

THE GARAGES HAVE ALL BEEN CONVERTED.

ALL RIGHT.

LET ME SEE.

I ASK A COUPLE, COUPLE OF, UH, UH, PASS ON TO THE REST OF THE COUNCIL.

I JUST WANT TO ASK STAFF QUESTION FIRST.

UM, GRAHAM ARE, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THIS ISSUE? HAVE YOU GOT A REPORT FROM THE, THE, UH, FROM THE PERSON WHO SENT MS. TAYLOR W WE ARE IN FACT, UM, WHEN THIS GOT BROUGHT UP EARLIER, ACTUALLY LATE LAST YEAR, WE WENT OUT AND INVESTIGATED AND WE DO RECOGNIZE THAT THERE'S A CHALLENGE.

THE BIG CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE A STAFF IS THAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS AN ALMOST AN ISLAND OF THE CITY.

SO TO THE NORTH, TO THE WEST, AND TO THE SOUTH OF THIS AREA IS SURROUNDED BY A COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO.

SO WE HAVE NO ABILITY TO REGULATE THOSE APARTMENT COMPLEXES.

WE HAVE NO ABILITY TO REGULATE PARKING EXCEPT ON OUR CITY STREETS.

ONE OF THE, UM, THE RESIDENTS EXACTLY RIGHT.

IN MY EXPERIENCE, A LOT OF THESE PARKING ISSUES HAS TO DO WITH, UM, OVERCROWDING OF APARTMENT UNITS OR THE APARTMENT COMPLEX, UH, WITH RENT GIVES YOU ONE PARKING SPOT, BUT THEN YOU CAN PAY FOR A SECOND SPOT.

SO IF THERE'S TWO OR THREE CARS, THEY'RE GOING TO PARK SOMEWHERE ELSE.

W WHAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING RIGHT NOW IS PROBABLY A DO NOTHING APPROACH BECAUSE BRADLEY IS BEING WORKED ON AND IS PART OF THE WIDENING PROJECT STAFF ACTUALLY HAS INSISTED THAT THE COUNTY AS PART OF THAT PROJECT INCLUDE PUBLIC PARKING ON BRADLEY.

SO ONCE THAT PROJECT'S DONE, WE THINK THAT WE'LL OPEN UP SOME PARKING ON BRADLEY, WHICH THERE ISN'T RIGHT NOW THAT WILL HELP.

WE THINK.

AND THE OTHER THING I SHOULD NOTE IS, UM, IS, YOU KNOW, CODE ENFORCEMENT DOESN'T, MOST CASES DOESN'T PROACTIVELY LOOK FOR VIOLATIONS.

WE WERE CALLED OUT THERE, SOMEONE MADE A COMPLAINT ABOUT TRASH CANS.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE JUST RESPONDING TO ANOTHER NEIGHBOR AND THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

WOULD THERE BE ANY VALUE IN US MEETING WITH THE MANAGERS OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEX TO TRY TO FIND A COMPROMISE? UM, THERE COULD BE, WHY DON'T WE TRY TO DO THAT.

OKAY.

IN THE MEANTIME.

SO, UM, AND ALSO IF YOUR COMPLIANCE OFFICER WOULD RETURN PHONE CALLS, HE LEFT IT ON RED, WROTE RIGHT ON THE LETTER.

JUST CALL ME, LEAVE A MESSAGE AND I'LL GET BACK TO YOU.

THE MAN HAS NEVER CALLED ANYBODY BACK THAT I HAVE TALKED TO IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD.

THE LAST TIME WE CALLED WAS THIS MORNING.

MY WIFE CALLED.

STILL HAVEN'T HEARD FROM HIM.

I'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN GET SOMEONE TO CALL YOU BACK.

UM, KELSEY, ANY QUESTIONS? WELL SIR, YOU KNOW WHAT? LET'S LET'S WORK ON IT.

I APPRECIATE HOW WE'RE KIND OF WITH YOU.

IT SOUNDS TO ME, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU NOTICED WHAT, WHAT THE CITY MANAGER SAID.

THEY, THERE'S A BIG CONSTRUCTION PROJECT HAPPENING ON BRADLEY RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT WRECK REMEDIES SOME OF IT, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I'M GLAD TO GO OUT AND MEET WITH THE APARTMENT MANAGERS AND SEE IF WE CAN FIND SOME KIND OF WAY TO GIVE YOU SOME PEACE OF QUIET.

IT ALSO WOULD BE APPRECIATED IF THEY WOULD GET SOMEONE TO CLEAN UP.

THEY TORE THE FOUR HOUSES DOWN THAT WERE ON THE CORNER, SIX ACTUALLY AND SOMEBODY CAME IN AND CUT A FEW WEEDS DOWN AND LEFT THE TRASH IN THE YARD AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

I DON'T, I DON'T REMEMBER THE GENTLEMAN'S NAME THAT WORKS FOR THE COUNTY, BUT HE'S SAID HE WOULD TAKE CARE OF IT.

BUT CAN WE CONTACT THE COUNTY ABOUT THEY TELL YOU THAT PROPERTY PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

OR TOGETHER.

UM, LEAVE YOUR NUMBER WITH ANOTHER CITY CLERK.

UM, I'LL SEE WHAT I CAN DO.

I'LL GIVE YOU A CALL.

OKAY.

I'D BE GLAD TO MEET WITH YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANKS FOR BEING PATIENT WITH US.

ALL RIGHT, DELORES LENDERS.

[00:15:02]

WELCOME.

I'M GONNA PULL THAT DOWN.

MAYOR WELLS, UH, COUNCILMEN KENDRICK.

UM, I HAVE BEEN TO THE COUNCIL MEETING THREE TIMES, UH, REGARDING THE PROPERTY IN THE BUSH AND DAN IN GEORGE BUSH'S ADMINISTRATION.

I HEARD THE PHRASE SHOCK AND AWE.

UH, APRIL 4TH EACH I GET SENT LETTERS, HAND CARRIED THEM TO EVERYBODY, MOST OF THE ELECTED OFFICIALS.

UH, ON APRIL 4TH, WHEN MY HUSBAND WENT TO GET OUT THE NEWSPAPER, GET THE NEWSPAPER, A CAR WAS PARKED IN FRONT OF OUR HOME.

I HAVE TWO FOLDERS FOR THE CON, THE ELECTED COUNCILMAN AND FOR YOU MIRROR, UH, WELLS WITH PICTURES OF THE CAR.

UM, I CALLED THE CITY.

I TOOK, AS I SAY, I TOOK PICTURES AND THEN THE CAR DROVE DOWN TO ONE, THREE, THREE, HELIX, FEW DRY IF THAT I HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT FOR THREE YEARS.

AND WHAT I DISCOVERED WAS ONE, THREE, THREE, THREE, HELIX, FEW DRIVE WAS A SQUARE LOT, BUT IT BECAME A CORNER LOT.

WHEN USA S D CHANGED IN 1973 TO I EIGHT MAP, UH, PARCELS WERE TAKEN OUT BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING TO DO, UM, A FREEWAY AT WHERE MID RAID, MIDWAY DRIVE WAS.

THE BOTTOM LINE WAS THAT CAR IS NOW BEING FIXED AS I SPEAK IN FRONT OF 13, 33, HELIX, FEW DRY.

WHEN I SAY SHOTGUN, SOMEBODY TOLD ME THAT THE CITY OF EL CAHONE OWNED A PORTION OF THAT LOT.

THE CARS ARE BEING FIXED, THEY ARE BEING TAKEN THERE DURING THE NIGHT AND THERE ARE CARS THAT ARE EITHER IMPOUNDED OR THEIR CARS THAT THEY BOUGHT FROM AUCTION.

I WANT TO KNOW IF THAT'S TRUE BECAUSE I NEED TO KNOW WHO I HAVE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH.

IS IT THE CITY WHO OWNS THAT PORTION WHERE ALL THE CARS AROUND OR IS IT THE HOMEOWNER? WE HAD A MURDER IN EL CAHONE ON PINE DRIVE.

I WAS ALSO, AND IS AS I SAY, MAGGIE, A RUMOR THAT THE SON OF THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE WAS RECENTLY KILLED BY A GANG MEMBER.

ARE WE SAFE UP THERE? AM I, AM I EVEN WHAT PERSON WHO'S GOING TO BE HIT NEXT? WELL, LET ME ANSWER, SEE IF WE CAN ANSWER ANY OF THESE QUESTIONS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OF THE CITY OWNING ANY OF THE PROPERTY WITH THERE? CERTAINLY MR MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, WE'VE ACTUALLY MET WITH MS LANDERS ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS.

IN FACT, MR CHUTE, UM, OFFERED TO SEND CODE ENFORCEMENT OUT AT RANDOM HOURS, UH, BECAUSE OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS DON'T WORK IN, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.

UH, AND MS LANDERS CLAIMED THAT THERE WAS, UM, CAR WORK HAPPENING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.

WE ACTUALLY SENT POLICE OFFICERS OUT OVER A WEEK PERIOD EVERY NIGHT AT RANDOM TIMES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT.

WE NEVER SAW ANY OF THE ALLEGATIONS.

I THINK THERE'S SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE PROPERTY AND THEM USING A SIDE LOT, WHICH IS, UH, LEGAL, UM, TO PARK CARS, ABANDONED OR, UH, INOPERABLE VEHICLES.

BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT IN THEIR RIGHT OF WAY.

THEY'RE NOT, UM, IN THE FRONT YARD, THEY'RE ON THE SIDE YARD.

SO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WHAT, WHAT'S HAPPENING IS LEGAL TO COMPLICATE THINGS.

THE OWNER CURRENTLY LOST THE HOME AND IT'S CURRENTLY BANK OWNED AND GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER TO ENSURE IT'S MAINTAINED.

BUT RIGHT NOW THAT THAT PROPERTY MEETS THE CODE, THE MUNICIPAL CODES.

SO WHEN YOU SAY IT'S BANK CONE THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE STILL INSIDE, BUT THEY, AT THIS POINT THEY'VE GOT POSSESSION OF THE HOUSE? CORRECT.

LET ME SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM.

UH, IT IS A CORNER LOCK AND YOU HAVE A MUNICIPAL CODE REGARDING A CORONER LOCKED BECAUSE IT AFFECTS

[00:20:01]

IT IS A CORNER LOT.

CORNER LOT SAYS YOU CAN'T REPAIR CARS ONE STEP AT A TIME.

UM, WELL GRAHAM, LET'S JUST GO AHEAD ADDRESS THAT.

TODAY.

IS THE QUARTER LOT ISSUE SOMEBODY THAT CHANGES YOUR, YOUR, YOUR FEELING ABOUT WHETHER THIS, NO, I THINK MS LANDERS IS CONFLATING, UM, WHAT'S THERE AND WHAT THE CODE SAYS.

I THINK SHE'S LOOKED AT A PART OF THE CODE THAT IS, SHE'S TRYING TO MAKE AN APPLICATION TO SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EXIST.

WE'VE LOOKED AT THAT.

UM, SHE PASSED THAT ONTO US, WHICH WE APPRECIATE AND SHE'S READ THE CODE FRONT TO BACK.

UM, BUT WE DO NOT CONCUR WITH HER OPINION, SO IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE ANYTHING ILLEGAL IS HAPPENING.

BUT THE GOOD NEWS FOR YOU IS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING THERE PROBABLY WON'T BE LIVING THERE VERY MUCH LONGER BECAUSE THEY'VE LOST THE HOUSE.

SO IF IN THIS REAL ESTATE MARKET THAT'S NOT GOING TO STAY UNSOLD, SO THESE HERE, YEAH, YOU CAN, OF COURSE YOU CAN.

THAT'S FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.

I DO HAVE ONE FOR GARY KENDRICKS AND BOB MCCLELLAN.

I HAVE GOTTEN AF AND I HAVE ALSO GOT THE LAW.

AND AS I SAY, I LIKE TO KNOW WHETHER THE CITY OWNS THE PROPERTY.

DO YOU NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT GRAMMAR? CAN YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION? WE DON'T BELIEVE WE OWN IT.

UM, IF, IF YOU LOOK AT AN AERIAL MAP, UM, YOU CAN TELL WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE IS.

IT PERHAPS IS SOME RESIDUAL LEFTOVER LAND FROM A COW, THE COW CALTRANS PROJECT.

UM, WE DON'T THINK WE OWN IT.

WE WILL VERIFY THAT, THAT THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HEARD THAT BEFORE.

SO WE WILL VERIFY.

BUT LOOKING AT A MAP RIGHT NOW, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S OURS, BUT WE'LL VERIFY YOU REPORT BACK TO US.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THE CITY RECENTLY DENIED PURCHASE OF A HOMEOWNER WHO WANTED TO BY THE END OF THE CORONER LOCK AND SHE WAS REFUSED.

SHE, HER HOUSE IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM ONE, THREE, THREE HELIX B DRIVE.

THESE ARE FOR YOU, MR, UH, KENDRICK'S BOB MCCLELLAN AND FOR YOU, HAPPY TO LOOK AT IT.

THANK YOU FOR LEAVING.

I THINK THIS, THIS PROBLEM IS GOING TO GO AWAY.

SO LET'S, UH, LET'S HOPE THAT THIS IS THE LAST YOU HAD TO DEAL WITH IT.

WE HAVE TWO MORE SPEAKERS.

JIM CITY, GUIANA.

.

WELL, SIR, WELCOME OUTSOURCE STAFF.

EXCUSE ME.

AH, JUST REAL QUICKLY, MR. MITCHELL, BY THE WAY, I JUST GOT CONFIRMATION AND I'LL BE MEETING WITH YOU ON THE 25TH OF APRIL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ACCESSIBILITY ABOUT THE RENT MEDIATION PROCESS.

YOU KNOW, SINCE I'VE BEEN COMING TO THE CITY'S COUNCIL MEETINGS, EXCUSE ME, I FEEL THAT EVERY TIME I COME HERE, IT'S AN EXAMINATION OF THE CONSCIENCE OF THE COUNCIL AND THE STAFF HERE.

OKAY.

UH, WHETHER IT'S ABOUT THE HOMELESS SITUATION OR IN MY CASE, THE MOBILE HOME PARKS AND RENT MEDIATION AND THE UNFAIRNESS OF IT ALL, WHICH I HAVEN'T GIVEN UP ON BY THE WAY.

UH, AND JUST THE RE, UH, FAST RECAP ABOUT THE LAST MEETING.

UH, I WAS HAPPY TO SEE THAT, UH, MR SHOOTS A MUNICIPAL CODE EXEMPTION WAS KIND OF SHELVED THROUGH RIGHT NOW.

UH, ALSO THE BIG ONE AT LAST, UH, THE MEETING WAS, UH, COUNSELING GOEBBELS ABOUT THE ROTATION OF THE, THE NIGHT SHELTERS.

I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT IDEA.

UH, ONLY WISH WE DID HAD HAD A WAIT 90 DAYS TO FIND OUT ANYTHING BECAUSE LIKE A LOT OF THINGS I CONSIDER INJUSTICES.

UH, THEY'RE HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, RIGHT THIS MINUTE AS WE SPEAK.

UH, AND, UH, I, I BELIEVE THAT THERE IS ONE CHURCH OR IT MIGHT BE, UM, UH, THE OMG ON, UH, ELCA, UH, NAVAJO ROAD, I BELIEVE THEY OPEN THEIR SHELTER AT LEAST ONCE A MONTH.

I'M NOT CERTAIN ABOUT THAT, BUT I THOUGHT I HEARD THAT AT ONE OF THE MEETINGS.

UH, ALSO WE HAD SOME GREAT PRESENTATIONS.

UH, I DON'T REMEMBER.

UM, MS SNYDER'S FIRST NAME FROM THE EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL CENTER.

SHE GAVE A GREAT PRESENTATION.

UH, I LIKED THE WAY SHE STUCK TO HER GUNS ABOUT BRINGING IN EXPERTISE ABOUT THE HOMELESS PEOPLE.

AND I HOPE THIS ALL COMES TO FRUITION DOWN THE WAY, UH, DOWN THE ROAD.

UH, LET'S SEE.

AND UH, ALSO THE EASTERN LIGHTS PREVENTION PEOPLE THAT MADE A PRESENTATION GREAT.

AND THEY WORKED WITH THE YOUNGER PEOPLE.

THIS SPECIFICALLY, I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT MEETING ABOUT THE HOMELESS SITUATION AND I FINALLY STARTED TO SEE SOME MOVEMENT ABOUT THIS HERE.

UH, OF COURSE IN, IN MY OPINION, EVERYTHING BOILS DOWN TO FUNDING

[00:25:02]

AND UH, I GUESS THAT'S ABOUT ALL I HAVE TO SAY RIGHT NOW.

BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT IT WAS NICE TO SEE MOVEMENT ON THIS HERE AND ALSO MR DIMAGGIO, I WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH YOU WHEN I MEET WITH MR. MITCHELL ALSO.

CAUSE I'D LIKE TO, I DON'T KNOW HOW EDUCATED YOU ARE ABOUT THE MOBILE HOME PARK SITUATIONS AND RENT MEDIATION AND THE LAWS, BUT A LOT OF IT'S UNFAIR AND I, IF YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME, IF YOU'RE NOT, IF YOU'RE NOT TOO BUSY THAT DAY, I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU THERE ALSO.

THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS FOR ME.

I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

THEY WERE GOOD, BUT THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU AGAIN.

OUR LAST SPEAKER IS LYNN POWELL.

MACKLIN.

HELLO.

WELCOME.

HELLO.

MY NAME'S LYNN.

UM, I HADN'T PLANNED ON ADDRESSING YOU TODAY.

I MAINLY JUST CAME TO CELEBRATE THE EMPTY SEAT OVER THERE.

UM, BUT THIS IS SORT OF ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR IN RESPONSE TO THE FIRST GENTLEMAN WHO SPOKE.

I LIVE IN ONE OF THOSE APARTMENT COMPLEXES ON BRADLEY AND I'VE PARKED IN HIS LITTLE THREE STREET AREA BEFORE.

AND UM, EACH HOUSE ON THAT STREET HAS A GARAGE AND THEY'RE ABLE TO PARK IN THEIR DRIVEWAY.

AND UH, THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT I LIVE IN, WHEN WE MOVED IN THERE IN OCTOBER, I HA IT'S ME AND MY TWO ADULT DAUGHTERS.

BETWEEN THE THREE OF US, WE HAVE ONE VEHICLE.

AND UM, WE DIDN'T FIND OUT UNTIL WE WERE, I DIDN'T FIND OUT UNTIL WE WERE SIGNING THE LEASE THAT, UM, THERE AREN'T ENOUGH PARKING SPOTS FOR EVERYBODY IN THE APARTMENT COMPLEX.

IF YOU WANT TO PAY AN ADDITIONAL HUNDRED BUCKS AND RENT ONE OF THEIR GARAGES, THEN YOU CAN HAVE A SPOT IMMEDIATELY.

BUT I WAS ON A WAITING LIST FROM OCTOBER UNTIL LAST MONTH, UM, TO JUST GET A PARKING SPOT AND EVEN THAT I HAVE TO PAY AN ADDITIONAL 50 BUCKS FOR.

SO, UM, THAT'S THE ONLY AREA THAT WE CAN PARK.

EVERYTHING BESIDES THAT IS EITHER APARTMENTS OR COMMERCIAL.

AND THAT'S, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I, I'M SORRY ABOUT HIS WIFE, BUT, UM, THROUGHOUT NOVEMBER, DECEMBER AND JANUARY, I HAD MYSELF AND BOTH OF MY DAUGHTERS, ONE'S 18 AND ONE'S 21 WALKING HOME, YOU KNOW, THREE, FOUR BLOCKS ON BRADLEY AVENUE AT 12 AND 1230 AT NIGHT.

I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY, UM, ANY OF THE TENANTS CAUSING, I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY CAUSING ANY PROBLEMS. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYBODY URINATING IN A LAWN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

NOT THAT I, I'M SAYING IT DOESN'T HAPPEN, BUT, UM, I'VE, I PARKED THERE A LOT UNTIL I GOT MY SPOT.

I'VE NEVER SEEN THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES.

UM, AND WE ONLY PARKED THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE NO CHOICE AND I'M NOT PARKING THERE ANYMORE, BUT I KNOW THERE ARE NEW PEOPLE WHO MOVE IN AND, OR ARE FACED WITH THE SAME DILEMMA.

EITHER INCREASE YOUR RENT BY A HUNDRED BUCKS ALL OF A SUDDEN OR PARK SOMEWHERE ELSE UNTIL YOU CAN GET A SPOT.

SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO ADD IN IS TO THE INFORMATION.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE IT THOUGH.

NO MORE CARD SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

THERE ARE NO WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS AND NO PUBLIC HEARING ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

[10. City Council Vacancy RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council accepts applications through April 17, 2019, 5:00 p.m., to fill a vacant City Council position, and appoints an individual at the April 23, 2019 meeting.]

WOULD YOU TELL US ABOUT THIS PLEASE? THANK YOU MR MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

UM, AS YOU KNOW, ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO THE CITY WAS NOTIFIED THAT MR CLAW SHO INTENDED TO RESIGN FROM THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, STAFF UPON RECEIVING HIS WRITTEN NOTIFICATION FILE THAT WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE ON MARCH 27TH.

THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DATE BECAUSE THE CITY COUNCIL HAS TWENTIES HAS 60 DAYS FROM THE 27TH TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT WISHES TO CALL A SPECIAL ELECTION OR TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT.

UM, IF THE COUNSEL FAILS TO MAKE AN APPOINTMENT IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME, A SPECIAL ELECTION WOULD AUTOMATICALLY BE CALLED AND IT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE HELD WITHIN 114 DAYS FROM THAT, WHICH IS ABOUT MID AUGUST.

UM, BASED ON THE COST OF A SPECIAL ELECTION, STAFF HIGHLY RECOMMENDS AGAINST MOVING IN THIS DIRECTION IN, IN RECOMMENDS THAT THE COUNCIL CONSIDER APPOINTING A POSITION TO FILL THE VACANCY FOR THE PERIOD OF, UM, THROUGH NOVEMBER, 2020.

UM, AND AS, AS YOU RECALL, THIS POSITION WOULD BE AN AT-LARGE POSITION WOULD NOT REPRESENT THE DISTRICT FROM WHERE IT, MR COSTA RESIDED.

UM, THE STAFF REPORT INCLUDES A SORT OF AN OUTLINE OF HOW THE APPOINTMENT PROCESS W IN OUR MIND WOULD GO.

THERE WOULD BE AN APPLICATION AND THERE'S A DRAFT APPLICATION WITH THE STAFF REPORT.

UH, THE STAFF

[00:30:01]

AND THEN, UH, WE HAD PROPOSED CONSIDERING APPLICATIONS THAT, THAT CITY COUNCIL CONSIDER APPLICATIONS ON APRIL 23RD AT, UH, AT THE 7:00 PM MEETING.

UM, IF THIS IS THE DIRECTION THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO GO, STAFF'S LOOKING FOR SOME FEEDBACK SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROCESS.

UH, FIRST SPECIFICALLY WE WANT TO KNOW, UM, ABOUT THE APPLICATION.

UH, THE APPLICATION THAT THE DRAFT APPLICATION THAT'S INCLUDED, UM, HAS A COVER SHEET THAT HAS SOME PERTINENT INFORMATION, HAS SOME BASIC INFORMATION ABOUT THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF A COUNCIL MEMBER.

IT ALSO INCLUDES A SECOND PAGE THAT HAS THEM, UH, RESPOND TO SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR BACKGROUND AND ABOUT THEIR EDUCATION, ABOUT THEIR EMPLOYMENT.

AND THEN THEY'RE ON THE THIRD PAGE.

THERE ARE THREE QUESTIONS JUST TO PROMPT YOUR, YOUR CREATIVE THINKING THAT YOU MAY WANT TO INCLUDE AS A SUPPLEMENTAL QUESTIONNAIRE.

STEPH WOULD ACTUALLY RECOMMEND YOU PROBABLY NARROW THAT DOWN TO ONE OR TWO QUESTIONS.

THREE'S PROBABLY A LOT.

UM, BUT WE PROVIDED THOSE FOR SOME DELIBERATION BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

UM, IN ADDITION TO SOME FEEDBACK ON THE APPLICATION STAFF'S LOOKING FOR, UH, JUST CONFIRMATION OF WHEN YOU, UM, WANT TO HAVE A DEADLINE FOR THE APPLICATIONS AND WHAT WOULD DRIVE THAT WOULD BE WHEN YOU DECIDE ON MAKING THE APPOINTMENT.

AND THEN FINALLY, UM, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE COUNCIL HAVE AT LEAST SOME PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW YOU SEE THE PROCESS MOVING FORWARD.

UM, AND MAYBE TONIGHT ISN'T THE RIGHT NIGHT TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY APPLICATIONS ARE GOING TO BE PRESENTED TO THE COUNCIL.

AND IF THERE ARE SIX APPLICATIONS, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU MAY TREAT THAT DIFFERENTLY VERSUS 50 APPLICATIONS.

SO MAYBE IT'S PREMATURE, BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME VALUE IN AT LEAST TALKING ABOUT IT AS A COUNCIL, AS A BODY TO DETERMINE HOW YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD DEPENDING ON HOW MANY APPLICATIONS YOU RECEIVE.

SO STAFF'S HERE TO, UM, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS BUT SPECIFICALLY TO TAKE FEEDBACK ON WHICH DIRECTION THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE.

ALL RIGHT, UH, FIRST OFF, COUNCIL, WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OH, ANGELA, HOW MANY SPIRIT CARDS ON THIS? YES SIR.

WE DO.

WE HAVE FIVE SPEAKERS AND THE FIRST ONE IS BONNIE PRICE.

BONNIE, WELCOME.

HELLO.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF DEMOCRACY.

I THINK THAT EVEN THOUGH IT'S COSTLY, IT'S WORTHWHILE.

THE IDEA OF APPOINTING SOMEONE WHO IS PART OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS WHAT YOU HAVE USUALLY DONE WHEN YOU'RE MAKING APPOINTMENTS.

AND I CAN'T RECALL WHETHER BOTH THE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL MEMBER, KENDRICK WERE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION PRIOR TO BEING EITHER APPOINTED OR ELECTED.

BUT YOU KNOW, THAT BREEDS A KIND OF GROUP THINK AND CRONYISM THAT SHOULD BE AVOIDED.

I THINK COUNCILMAN GOEBEL WAS NOT A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND HE'S BROUGHT SOME VERY GOOD IDEAS AND THOUGHTS TO THE COUNCIL AND MADE GOOD CONTRIBUTIONS TO CONSIDERATIONS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS TAKEN.

I THINK THAT EVEN THOUGH IT'S WHAT, $400,000 TO HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION, UM, THIS IS MONEY WELL SPENT TO GET SOME NEW PEOPLE, PEOPLE BEYOND THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHO ARE PART OF THE GROUP WHO SIT UP ON THE DAY AS NOW.

AND I WENT URGE YOU TO CONSIDER NOT APPOINTING, BUT TO ACTUALLY HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

HI THERE.

GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UM, I'M HERE TODAY.

UM, I WEAR MANY HATS.

I'M THE CHAIR OF THE WELCOME NEWCOMER NETWORK, WHICH IS 50 ORGANIZATIONS PLUS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF THE EAST COUNTY JUSTICE COALITION, BUT I'M HERE AS A RESIDENT OF ALCOHOL FOR 45 YEARS AND I BELIEVE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WE SHOULD HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION, UM, DUE TO THE PROCESS BEING OPEN BECAUSE I DO NOT BELIEVE IN APPOINTEES.

I DO KNOW THAT THERE HAS BEEN CONVERSATION ALREADY ABOUT APPOINTEES.

I BELIEVE THAT IT'S ONLY DEMOCRATIC TO HAVE AN OPEN PROCESS TRANSPARENCY AND TO APPOINT SOMEONE THAT IS NOT ONLY JUST QUALIFIED BUT DEDICATED TO SERVE THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.

THERE'S A LOT OF

[00:35:01]

UM, THANK YOU GRAHAM MITCHELL FOR EXPLAINING THAT.

IF WE HAVE SIX OR 15 OR 50, UM, YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A DECISION.

ALSO WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO'S GOING TO BE ON THAT DECISION MAKING PROCESS.

IF YOU GET THOSE APPLICATIONS.

I WANT TO ENSURE THAT IT IS A FAIR PROCESS AND THAT THE APPLICATIONS ARE FAIRLY, UM, READ AND EVALUATED AND IT'S JUST NOT AN APPOINTEE.

SO THANK YOU FOR DOING A GREAT JOB AND I HOPE THAT YOU DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE BEST INTEREST, ESPECIALLY, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST, UH, WITH THE HOLD.

UM, MR COLLAGE SHOW AND THE WHOLE PROCESS.

WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN TRUST WHO'S GOING TO FEEL THAT VACANCY.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANKS GEORGE.

IBARRA AT GEORGE.

WELCOME.

GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR.

CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS STAFF.

I'M GEORGE .

I'M A BOARD MEMBER OF THE EAST COUNTY JUSTICE COALITION.

WE ARE COMPRISED OF OVER 14 DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND GROUPS IN EAST COUNTY AND THROUGHOUT THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY AS WELL.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE DUE-PROCESS AS FAR AS THE, AN ELECTION, A SPECIAL ELECTION, NOT AN APPOINTMENT.

THIS IS A DEMOCRACY AFTER ALL AND WE NEED TO STAND BY THE DEMOCRACY.

UM, THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT OF 1964 GIVES US THAT, RIGHT? AND THAT LIBERTY, UM, I'D HATE TO KNOW THAT THAT CONTINUED A, UM, UH, TITLE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR IS A GOOD OLD BOYS CLUB AND THAT'S WHAT YOU KNOW, AND THAT IS OUT IN THE COMMUNITY.

FAILURE TO DO SO IS GOING TO BE THE SAME THING THAT WE'RE DOING IN WASHINGTON RIGHT NOW.

IT'S GOING TO BE A TURNSTILE FOR APPOINTEES.

WE DON'T WANT THAT.

WE DON'T WANT APPOINTMENTS, WE DON'T WANT APPOINTMENTS.

WE WANT TO SEE A SPECIAL ELECTION, IT'S GOING TO COST US MORE NOT TO ELECT THE RIGHT PERSON TO APPOINT THE WRONG PERSON.

YOU DID THAT WITH A STAR BALES.

WE HAD FUNCTIONS WHERE SHE CAME TO AND SHE WOULDN'T EVEN SPEAK ARABIC TO A 90% AUDIENCE.

THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO STAND FOR.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE OF THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF OKLAHOMA NOW 2020 WILL TELL THE DIFFERENCE.

WE'LL TELL THAT IN THE SENSES AND I, I, I STRONGLY URGE YOU FOR US TO GO FORWARD WITH THE SPECIAL ELECTION BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S GOING TO COST US MORE NOT TO ELECT THE RIGHT PERSON THAN TO LET THE WRONG PERSON 2010.

HE WOULD TELL WHERE ALREADY MOBILIZING OUR, OUR, UM, OUR CITIZENSHIP EFFORTS AS WELL AS OUR, UM, REGISTRATION EFFORTS AND 2020 IS GOING TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER YOU ALL SIT IN THE CHAIRS OF CITY NOW OR YOU'RE REPLACED BY SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO DO THE JOB TO REPRESENT THE CONSTITUENCY OF ELLICOTT HORN.

I MEAN, PROUD, PROUD, PROUD CITIZEN OF EL CAHONE.

I WANT TO REMAIN THAT AND I'M SURE YOU WANT THE SAME FOR THE SAME EQUALITY FOR ALL FOLKS WHO LIVE HERE IN OKLAHOMA.

SO LET'S GET OFF OUR DUFFS DO THE RIGHT THING AND ELECT SPECIAL ELECTION, NOT APPOINTMENT.

THANK YOU INGRID LOPEZ.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

HI.

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE PRESENT HERE.

MY NAME IS INGRID LOPEZ AND I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF THE WELCOME NEWCOMERS NETWORK AND THE EAST COUNTY JUSTICE COALITION.

AND REGARDING TO THE AGENDA UNDER ADMIN REPORT NUMBER 10, THE CITY COUNCIL VACANCY.

I DO ENCOURAGE AS A CITIZEN OF EL CAHONE AND AS A VOTED VOTER, I'M KINDA NERVOUS, UM, TO HAVE ALSO A SPECIAL ELECTION AND I THINK THAT'S FAIR AND THAT'S UM, UM, IT'S A FAIR, IT'S A FAIR, UM, PROCESS, RIGHT? IT'S NOT JUST LIKE GOING TO THE OLYMPICS AND SAY, HERE YOU GET THE MEDAL.

NO, IT'S ABOUT RACING AND ABOUT WHO'S QUALIFIED FOR THE JOB.

SO I'M JUST, UM, FOR IT TO HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION, EVEN THOUGH IF IT COST US MORE, BUT AT LEAST WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE RIGHT PERSON FOR THE JOB.

THAT'S IT.

THANKS.

OUR LAST SPEAKER IS ROBERT CLARK.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS ROBERT CLARK.

AND HOW I'D LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THE POINT THAT IF YOU HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION BY MAIL BALLOT ONLY THE COST GOES DOWN DRAMATICALLY.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE $400,000.

AND I WOULD HOPE IT'S SOMEONE THAT THE CITY WILL LICK A LOOK INTO THAT AND DETERMINE WHAT WOULD THE COST BE IF IT'S BY MAIL BALLOT ONLY.

I WOULD CERTAINLY AGREE WITH THOSE THAT SAY

[00:40:01]

AND SO IF WE HAVE A SPECIAL ELECTION, UH, BY MAIL BALLOT ONLY, THAT'S NOT GOING TO COST ALL THAT MUCH.

THANK YOU.

NO MORE, SIR.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

A DISCUSSION AMONGST COUNCIL, GARY.

WELL, FOUR TO $600,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR A CITY THIS SIZE.

AND LAST TIME, UH, WHEN WE APPOINTED, UH, WE HAD ABOUT 20 APPLICANTS, A LOT OF REALLY WELL QUALIFIED PEOPLE AND UH, THE LAW ALLOWS US TO DO THAT.

AND UH, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO.

STEVE, FOUR TO $600,000 IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR A SPECIAL ELECTION FOR A SEAT THAT HAS NO MORE THAN A YEAR AND A HALF LEFT ON IT.

AND TO THOSE THAT WOULD SAY, WELL IN A POINT T YOU WOULD HAVE A POLITICAL ADVANTAGE GOING INTO ELECTION.

I WOULD SAY THAT'S NOT TRUE EITHER BECAUSE I JOINED A FIELD OF 10 CANDIDATES IN THE 2016 ELECTION AND PEOPLE GAVE ME MORE VOTES THAN THEY GAVE THE APPOINTED CITY COUNCIL INCUMBENT AT THAT TIME.

SO BECAUSE YOU'RE APPOINTED DOES NOT GIVE YOU A POLITICAL ADVANTAGE IN RETAINING YOUR SEAT.

I AGREE WITH THE COMMENTS THAT THE APPLICATION SHOULD BE FAIRLY READ AND EVALUATED.

TO THAT END, I THINK A WEEK'S TIME IS TOO SHORT.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY URGENCY.

UH, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE EXTEND THE APPLICATION PERIOD TO APRIL 26TH I THINK IS TWO WEEKS FROM FRIDAY.

THAT WOULD GIVE US TWO AND A HALF WEEKS TO RECEIVE APPLICATIONS AND WOULD ALLOW THE MEDIA TO PERHAPS PUBLISH THE NAMES OF THOSE WHO HAVE APPLIED FOR COUNCIL TO LET PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY KNOW THIS IS WHO WANTS TO REPRESENT YOU.

THAT WOULD GIVE US TWO AND A HALF WEEKS FOR ANYBODY TO RESPOND OR, OR BE PRESENT.

SO I THINK, UH, AN EXTENDED PERIOD AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING IS FIVE WEEKS FROM, WELL TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS OR THE 23RD AND THEN MAY 14TH, I THINK IT IS.

UH, AND I CORRECT IN THAT THE NEXT, THE FIRST COUNCIL MEETING IN MAY IS MAY 14TH.

CORRECT.

WHICH WILL BE FIVE WEEKS FROM TODAY.

SO LET'S TAKE A LITTLE MORE TIME.

WE DON'T NEED TO RUSH THIS.

THAT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY.

FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN AND PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE ON VACATION OR BUSINESS TRIPS, UH, HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO APPLY.

UM, WE HAD TWO NEW FACES HERE IN THE 2016 ELECTION.

SO I DON'T KNOW THAT I AGREE THAT THE GOOD OLD BOYS CLUBS STILL EXISTS.

WE HAD FRESH FACES AND WE HAVE FRESH OPINIONS.

AND I THINK, UH, THIS GIVES A CHANCE FOR US TO FILL A SEAT FOR A YEAR AND A HALF AND SAVE THE PEOPLE OF ALCOHOL IN FOUR TO $600,000.

OKAY.

UM, I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL NOW SINCE 2008.

UH, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL TIMES THEY HAVE TO MAKE THIS DECISION.

UM, I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD A BAD OUTCOMES LYRICALLY BECAUSE CAUSE OF APPOINTMENTS, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH APPOINTMENTS.

I DON'T WANT TO SPEND MONEY THAT WE CAN SPEND ON POLICE AND FIRE AND ROADS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND.

UM, I GOT TO SAY I TAKE ISSUE WITH THE CONCEPT OF THE GOOD OLD BOY NETWORK.

I ASSUME THAT THAT'S GEARED TOWARDS THE FACT THAT THE ALCOHOL HAS GENERALLY BEEN FAIRLY CONSERVATIVE IN THEIR POLITICAL THOUGHT.

BUT YOU LIVE IN CALIFORNIA, EVERYTHING IS RUN BY THE DEMOCRATS AND IN CALIFORNIA EVERYTHING IS RUN BY THE LIBERALS.

THERE ARE ONLY A COUPLE OF CITIES WHERE THERE EVEN ANY CONSERVATIVES LEFT.

SO I FIND IT KIND OF A FARCE TO SAY THAT, THAT IT'S A GOOD OLD BOYS NETWORK.

HAVING SAID THAT, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE HAVE A QUITE A FEW PEOPLE ALREADY EXPRESSING INTEREST, RIGHT? HOW MANY, UM, I'LL HAVE THE CITY CLERK, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK 12 TO 15 PEOPLE HAVE AT LEAST INQUIRED ABOUT THE PROCESS.

THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CHOOSE FROM 15 PEOPLE.

I WANT TO GET THIS OVER WITH.

FRANKLY, WE'VE BEEN IN KIND OF A NIGHTMARE IN OKLAHOMA FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS.

CONSTANTLY IN THE, IN THE NEWSPAPER, CONSTANTLY ON TV, UH, CONSTANTLY AT THE CENTER OF CONTROVERSY BECAUSE OF THE WILD ANTICS OF THE LAST COUNCIL MEMBER.

I WANT THIS NIGHTMARE TO BE, TO BE OVER.

I'D LIKE TO PUT OUT THE APPLICATION PROCESS.

WE'VE ALREADY GOT 15 PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY INTERESTED AND MAKE THIS DECISION

[00:45:01]

AND PEOPLE CAN PREPARE FOR THE NEXT ELECTION, WHICH IS, AS YOU POINTED OUT, THE, THE PRIMARY IS ONLY, UM, A YEAR FROM THIS MONTH.

SO IT'S, IT'S LIKE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN FAST.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION TO PUT IT UP FOR APPOINTMENT AND DO IT IN TWO WEEKS.

I GUESS.

YOU'RE THE COACH.

YOU'RE THE TIEBREAKER.

GARY .

YEAH, I AGREE WITH YOU, MR MAYOR.

UH, I'D LIKE TO GET THIS DONE.

IN FACT, I'VE SEEN SEVERAL PEOPLE OUT HERE RIGHT NOW, I'M SURE THAT ARE GOING TO APPLY, UH, AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SO.

ALL RIGHT, WELL THEN I'LL, I'LL MAKE THAT EMOTION THEN.

DO I NEED TO RESTATE THE MOTION? I THINK IF YOUR MOTION IS TO GO TO APPOINTMENT PROCESS, IT'S, YEAH, THE BUY MOTION WILL BE TO GO TO AN APPOINTMENT PROCESS AND HAVE THAT, UH, PROCESS CONCLUDED THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

SECOND.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE TO THE SECOND.

PLEASE VOTE.

OKAY.

A MARE THAT FAILS, WE REQUIRE A THREE .

WE REQUIRE, REQUIRE ALL THREE OF YOU TO VOTE IN AN AFFIRMATIVE ON ANY MOTION TODAY.

WE ONLY HAVE THREE, THREE MEMBERS AVAILABLE TODAY.

OKAY.

OTHERWISE WE HAVE TO FIND A COMPROMISE.

JAVA ARE YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ADAMANT ABOUT THIS HOUSE SEAT.

I THINK I, I'M THINKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE'S POINT OF VIEW.

FOR INSTANCE, UM, IF YOU'RE TRAVELING ON BUSINESS, YOU ONLY HAVE ONE WEEK TO MAYBE YOU DON'T EVEN GET A CHANCE.

IF YOU ARE ON VACATION, YOU DON'T EVEN GET A CHANCE.

UM, I THINK IT'D BE NICE FOR THE MEDIA TO GET OUT THE NEWS THAT WE'RE TAKING APPLICATIONS AND THEN PEOPLE WHO MIGHT NOT BE AWARE OF THIS MEETING WOULD FIND OUT ABOUT IT THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, THE CITY'S RESOURCES AND, AND UH, WE INVITE A BIGGER POOL.

A BIGGER POOL IS A BETTER POOL.

I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A RUSH.