[ CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Bill Wells]
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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, I THINK WE'LL GET STARTED.WELCOME TO THE OIL CODE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
THE MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CITY CLERK TO CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER COLLAGE SHOW IS ABSENT.
ALL OTHER COUNSEL ARE PRESENT.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE MS
SO WOULD YOU ALL THEN STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND REMAIN STANDING AFTER THE PLEDGE FOR A BRIEF MOMENT OF SILENCE.
I PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IS STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
LADIES, COME BACK FOR A SECOND.
YEAH, THE UH, EVERYBODY WILL BE UPSET WITH ME IF I DIDN'T GET YOU TO COME UP AND TELL US WHO YOU ARE AND SAY HELLO.
I'M 17 YEARS OLD AND I'M YOUR MISS TEEN
I'M CURRENTLY A SENIOR AT
MY NAME IS ALEXANDRIA DE MARS.
I'M YOUR MISS EL CAHONE FOR 2018 I AM 21 YEARS OLD AND CURRENTLY IN MY THIRD YEAR OF COLLEGE AT GROSSMONT COLLEGE AND SAN DIEGO STATE UNIVERSITY AND IT WAS ACTUALLY RECENTLY ADMITTED TO THE UNIVERSITY FULL TIME GO ASK TECHS AND I'M ALSO ON THE CHEER TEAM AT THE UNIVERSITY AND I'M VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE.
CAN YOU JUST BRIEFLY TELL US WHAT THE LIFE IS, UH, THE YEAR THAT YOU'RE SERVING? WHAT'S IT LIKE? I KNOW IT CAN BE PRETTY BUSY.
KATIE AND I THEN GIVEN THE AMAZING OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT IN OUR COMMUNITY AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE SMALLEST WAYS THAT WE CAN AND WE ACTUALLY BOTH GOT TO COMPETE IN MISS CALIFORNIA FOR THE COUNCIL FOR YOUTH EMPOWERMENT.
KATIE PLACED IN TOP FIVE AS WELL AS I DID AND I ACTUALLY WON MISS CALIFORNIA AS WELL.
ABSOLUTELY AMAZING BEING ABLE TO GO OUT IN OUR COMMUNITY AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OTHER PEOPLE'S LIVES.
KATIE, YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? I THINK THE BEST PART OF MY YEAR SO FAR IS JUST SPENDING IT WITH ALEX BECAUSE WE'VE DEFINITELY BEEN TOGETHER FOR A LONG TIME AND GETTING TO SERVE IN OUR COMMUNITY WITH EACH OTHER.
IT'S JUST BEEN A HUGE BLESSING, ESPECIALLY IN THE BEAUTIFUL CITY OF ALCOHOL AND I THINK IT'S SUPER FUN AND I REALLY RECOMMEND A LOT OF YOUNGER CHILDREN TO TRY THIS BECAUSE I'VE DEFINITELY LEARNED A LOT FROM IT.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING AND THANK YOU FOR SURVEY.
SHE MAKES A GOOD ROLE MODEL FOR YOU.
[ POSTINGS: The City Clerk posted Orders of Adjournment of the March 12, 2019, Meeting and the Agenda of the March, 2019, Meeting in accordance to State Law and Council/Authority/Successor Agency to the Redevelopment Agency Policy.]
ALL RIGHT.THE CITY CLERK POSTED ORDERS OF A GERMAN OF THE MARCH 12TH, 2019 MEETING AND THE AGENDA OF THE MARCH 26TH, 2019 MEETING IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY POLICY.
[ PRESENTATIONS: April Pool's Day]
OUT TODAY'S AGENDA AND FRANK CARSON, THE DIRECTOR OF RECREATION, WILL TELL US ALL ABOUT IT.GREAT GUFF, NEW MAYOR CITY COUNCIL.
I'M HERE TO INTRODUCE APRIL POOL'S DAY, WHICH WILL BE HAPPENING NEXT MONTH AT THE FLETCHER HILLS POOL ON FRIDAY, APRIL 26, THREE 30 TO 5:30 PM.
THIS IS A NOT ONLY A REGIONAL EFFORT BUT A NATIONWIDE EFFORT TO START TO PUSH TOWARDS WATER SAFETY AND WATER AWARENESS.
SO THERE'S FIVE, FIVE CITIES LOCALLY DO PARTICIPATE IN THIS.
IT ACTUALLY STARTED WITH HEARTLAND FIRE DISTRICT AND UH, THE SAFE KIDS WORLDWIDE PROGRAM HAS PUSHED THIS INTERNATIONALLY.
THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY AQUATIC COUNCIL, UH, IS FOSTERING THIS EFFORT AND SO THEY'VE HELPED PAY FOR WHAT YOU SEE HERE ARE THE, OUR WATER WATCHER TAGS.
SO THE BIG PUSH AND MAKING PEOPLE WATER.
WHERE ARE THAT FOR AGES ONE TO FIVE? DROWNING IS THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH IN SENIO COUNTY AS WELL AS THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
AND FOR YOUTH UNDER THE AGE OF 14, DROWNING IS STILL THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH THAT IS PREVENTABLE DEATH.
SO WE ARE HERE TO MAKE PEOPLE WATER WHERE AND IF YOU HAVE A CHILD OR YOUTH AT OR NEAR THE WATER TO ALWAYS HAVE A WATER WATCHER, UH, AROUND, UM, THAT THIS IS WHY WE PROVIDED THE WATER WATCHER TAGS TO THE GUESTS HERE IN THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING AS WELL AS THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND OUR CITY DIGNITARIES.
UH, CHILDREN AND YOUTH CAN DROWN IN A POOL.
A SPA I PUT ON THERE A TUB, EVEN A BUCKET WITH AN INCH FULL OF WATER AND INFANT OR CHILD CAN DROWN IN.
SO DON'T THINK THAT YOU'RE SAFE JUST TO LEAVE THE ROOM TO GO ANSWER THE PHONE.
YOU NEED TO TAKE THE CHILD WITH YOU IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO AND LEAVE THE ROOM JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO LEAVE A CHILD UNATTENDED IN OR AROUND WATER ENVIRONMENTS.
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WE'LL HAVE OUR FLETCHER POOL EVENT, OUR APRIL POOLS DAY, WE'LL HAVE A CPR STATION AGAIN, WE GOT A GRANT FOR LIFE JACKET GIVEAWAY.WE HAVE BASIC WATER RESCUE STATION AND AS WELL AS WATER SAFETY EDUCATION STATIONS THROUGHOUT THE, THE TIME PERIOD OF THE EVENT.
SO WE ARE LOOKING FOR ABOUT TWO TO 300 PEOPLE TO ATTEND, BUT MORE THIS IS MAKING OUR COMMUNITY WATER WHERE ONE OF OUR SEVERAL ATTEMPTS WE'RE TRYING, UH, WE DID REACH OUT TO IPSA, IT SAYS THE INDEPENDENT POOL AND SPA SERVICES ASSOCIATION.
UH, THEIR LOCAL CHAPTER HERE IN SAN DIEGO IS REGION SEVEN AND THEY DO COORDINATE TRAININGS THROUGHOUT APARTMENT COMPLEXES IN THIS CITY, BUT ALL CITIES IN THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY REGION ON AN ANNUAL BASIS FOR WATER WATCHER.
AND THEY ALSO PROVIDE TRAINING TO PROPERTY MANAGERS THAT HAVE THOSE HEALTH PERMITTED POOLS IN THEIR AREA.
UH, LASTLY THE EVENT AGAIN IS FRIDAY, APRIL 26, THREE 35 THREE AT THE FLETCHER HILLS POOL.
LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.
YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE INFORMATION, BUT HAS THERE BEEN ANY STUDIES ON PREVENTABLE DROWNING DEATHS, UM, THAT SHOW THAT ALL THIS EDUCATION IS HELPING AT ALL? OR IS IT, IS IT MAKING A DENT THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CURRENT STUDIES ON THAT.
ON AVERAGE CINEO COUNTY, WE HAVE ABOUT 17 YOUTH THAT DIE FROM DROWNING.
DOES THAT SEEM TO BE CONSISTENT EVERY YEAR? THAT IS CONSISTENT ANYWHERE FROM 16 TO 20 IT'S WORSE THAN IMPERIAL COUNTY BECAUSE THEY HAVE THOSE CANAL WAYS WITH A WATER SYSTEM.
THEY HAVE USUALLY ABOUT 40 TO 50 DEATHS IN THE IMPERIAL COUNTY EVERY YEAR BECAUSE OF THAT.
THANKS FOR DOING THIS IMPORTANT STUFF.
THEY ARE NO CHANGES TO THE AGENDA.
[7. CONSENT ITEMS: Consent Items are routine matters enacted by one motion according to the RECOMMENDATION listed below. With the concurrence of the City Council, a Council Member or person in attendance may request discussion of a Consent Item at this time.]
CONSENT ITEMS ARE ROUTINE MATTERS ENACTED BY ONE MOTION ACCORDING TO THE RECOMMENDATION LISTED BELOW WITH CONCURRENCE TO THE CITY COUNCIL.A COUNCIL MEMBER OR PERSON IN ATTENDANCE MAY REQUEST A DISCUSSION WITH A CONSENT ITEM AT THIS TIME.
COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO YOU WISH TO PULL ANY CONSENT ITEMS? HOW ABOUT STAFF? NO SIR.
ANGEL, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR CONSENT ITEMS? WE HAVE NO CARDS, SIR.
I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THEN TO APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS. MOVING THE SECOND AND PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
[ PUBLIC COMMENT: At this time, any person may address a matter within the jurisdiction of the City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the El Cajon Redevelopment Agency that is not on the Agenda. Comments relating to items on today’s docket are to be taken at the time the item is heard. State law prohibits discussion or action on items not on the Agenda; however, Council, Authority and Agency Members may briefly respond to statements or questions. An item may be placed on a future Agenda.]
THIS BRINGS US TO PUBLIC COMMENT.AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS A MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THEL CONE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.
COMMENTS RELATING TO THE ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA ARE TO BE TAKEN AT THE TIME THAT THE AMIS HEARD.
STATE LAW PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
HOWEVER, COUNCIL AUTHORITY, AGENCY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND TO STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS AND AN ITEM MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
ANGELA, DO YOU HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT? YES SIR.
THE FIRST ONE IS KELLY'S STUDEBAKER.
OKAY, BUT WE DIDN'T HEAR FROM YOU, BUT DID YOU, DID YOU HEAR THIS IS YOUR CHANCE.
SO MY NAME IS KELLY STUDEBAKER AND I'M THE DIRECTOR FOR THE MISS ELKA HOME PAGEANTS WHERE WE CROWN MISS AND TEEN EL CAHONE RANCHO, SAN DIEGO, AND HUMMEL.
SO WE, OUR ENTIRE ORGANIZATION IS ABOUT BUILDING LEADERSHIP COMPETENCE EMPLOYEES AND GIVING THE GIRLS OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN HOW TO SPEAK IN FRONT OF GROUPS OF PEOPLE.
AND DURING THE INTERVIEW PROCESS FOR THE PAGEANT ITSELF, THEY SPEAK TO A GROUP OF SIX TO EIGHT, UM, ADULTS WHO ASK THEM QUESTIONS ABOUT THEMSELVES, ABOUT, UH, RESUME, SO TO SPEAK, AND WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH THEMSELVES AS FAR AS EDUCATION AND THEIR GOALS FOR LIFE.
IT GIVES THE GIRLS A GREAT CHANCE TO BONE UP BEFORE THEY'RE IN FRONT OF A PANEL FOR COLLEGE, AND THEY ENJOY BEING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE ENJOY ALL OF YOU GIVING THEM OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.
BOB, I JUST WONDER IF YOU'RE ANY RELATION TO THE STUDEBAKER FAMILY.
BUT YOU DON'T KNOW US BECAUSE THERE WAS NO BAIL OUT WHEN THEY STRUGGLED IN THE 60S.
I REMEMBER THE, BECAUSE I WAS NOT ON THE BOAT BUSINESS TOO, AND I REMEMBER THE STUDEBAKER VERY WELL.
WELL, IF YOU GO DOWN TO THE BOBO PARK, YOU CAN SEE A STUDEBAKER CONESTOGA WAGON.
SO STUDEBAKERS WERE IN AUTOMOBILES AND WAGONS AND ACTUALLY WHEELBARROWS FOR THE GOLD RUSH.
SO ANYTHING WITH WHEELS STUDEBAKER.
AND, UH,
IF OUR OTHER YOUNG GIRLS WANT TO GET INVOLVED, WHAT WOULD THEY DO? UH, THEY CAN
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UH, GO TO OUR WEBSITE, MISS EL CAHONE PAGEANTS.COM, AND WE'RE HAVING AN ORIENTATION ON THE 13TH OF APRIL AT PARKWAY PLAZA.THEY HAVE A NEW LIVE EVENTS COMMUNITY SPACE THAT THEY'RE ALLOWING US TO USE FOR THAT PARTICULAR MEETING.
AND WE'RE GOING TO BE HOLDING OUR 56TH ANNUAL PAGEANT HERE AT THE MARRIOTT ON THE 15TH OF JUNE.
SO IF YOU KNOW, YOUNG LADIES FROM 13 TO 27 THAT WOULD LIKE TO COMPETE AND THEY SHOULD, WE'RE ALSO DOING A PRINCESS PROGRAM FOR YOUNG GIRLS, SIX TO 12 JUST TO STICK THEIR TOES IN IT AND HAVE A COUPLE OF FUN EVENTS AND LEARN HOW TO BE OUT AND ABOUT WITH THE COMMUNITY.
SO IT'S A VERY GOOD THING TO DO AND I ENJOY HELPING THE GIRLS DO IT.
HOW MANY GIRLS COMPETED? UH, LAST YEAR WE HAD ABOUT 12, BUT IN DAYS OF YORE, MISS OKLAHOMA WAS VERY, VERY POPULAR AND THERE WOULD BE LIKE 30 TO 50 CONTESTANTS.
SO IT KIND OF GOES UP AND DOWN, BUT WE STILL SEE THE, UM, THE ADVANTAGE OF HOLDING SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THIS ONE DAY OF KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, A SHOW AND THE REST OF THE YEAR IS HARD WORK.
THANKS FOR ALL THE GOOD WORK YOU'RE DOING IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, I WANTED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT I HAD SAID TO YOU AT THE LAST MEETING.
WE HAD TALKED ABOUT WAYS TO HELP THE HOMELESS AND ONE OF MY SUGGESTION HAD TO DO WITH PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT YET BECOME HOMELESS.
WE DON'T SEEM TO HAVE GOOD PROGRAMS TO HELP THOSE PEOPLE AND KEEP THEM OFF THE STREETS.
SO JUST, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT AND HELP THE ONES WHO WANT THE HELP, HELP THE ONES BEFORE THEY BECOME HOMELESS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I THINK.
UM, MY SECOND THING IS ANOTHER HOUSE ON MAGNOLIA BURNED LAST NIGHT.
AND FROM WHAT I HEAR, AND THIS IS NOT DOCUMENTED, I HEAR THAT THEY WERE SELLING DRUGS OUT OF THERE AND THAT IT HAD BEEN REPORTED TO THE POLICE, IN FACT REPORTED TO THE POLICE YESTERDAY BEFORE IT BURNED AND THAT CARS WERE COMING AND GOING ALL THE TIME.
AND IT WAS LIKE A LITTLE DRUG THEN GOING THERE.
BUT THAT'S WHAT THE RUMOR GOING AROUND IS.
THERE WAS ANOTHER HOUSE UP BY RONNETTE BETWEEN RYNETTE AND MAGNOLIA OR NO, RENEE AND CHASE THAT BURNED A WHILE BACK AND THEY BOARDED IT ALL UP AND SUDDENLY A CAMPER APPEARED IN THE FRONT YARD AND PEOPLE WERE PULLING THE BOARDS OFF AND GOING IN TO THAT BUILDING AND LIVING IN THERE.
SO TO ME, IF IT WAS BOARDED UP, THERE WAS A REASON WHY IT WAS BOARDED UP AND WHY ARE PEOPLE LIVING IN THERE? SO THOSE ARE CONCERNS AND YOU KNOW THOSE, THOSE HOUSES ARE CLOSE TOGETHER.
IF ONE OF THEM REALLY TOOK HOLD, LIKE LAST NIGHT, THE POLICE AND FIRE WERE REALLY BUSY.
IF THEY HADN'T GOTTEN TO THE HOUSE FIRE IN ADDITION TO THE CAR ACCIDENT, IT COULD HAVE TAKEN OUT MORE THAN ONE HOUSE.
SO ANYWAY, UM, MONDAY I DROVE DOWN MAIN STREET AND I SAW MORE HOMELESS THAN I'M USED TO SEEING ON THE STREET AND MAYBE BECAUSE OF THE WEATHER, BUT JUST AS ADVISEMENT.
I WAS AT, UM,
THEY'RE ASKING FOR TWIN BLANKETS.
IF ANYBODY HAS TWIN BLANKETS, THEY NEED THEM.
THEY'RE NOW ALSO, THEY'RE ASKING FOR CHILDREN'S BOOKS AND CHILDREN'S GAMES FOR THE 180 KIDS THAT ARE LIVING THERE.
UM, AND THEN I HAVE A QUESTION THAT ON THE AGENDA IT TALKS ABOUT BLOCKING OFF THE STREET FOR THE CAL D AND NEW YEAR, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE KLD AND NEW YEAR IS.
SO ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
THANKS FOR ALL YOUR SUGGESTIONS.
WELL SIR, WELCOME COUNCIL MAYOR STAFF.
I'VE MISSED A FEW MEETINGS HERE RECENTLY, BUT, UH, IN MY ABSENCE FOLLOW, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S ON THE INTERNET OR THE FOLLOWING EVENING, UH, THERE'S SOMETHING I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THAT, UH, AT THE, UH, TOWN HALL MEETING.
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OKAY.UH, I WAS COMPLETELY IGNORED ABOUT SPEAKING BY THE LADY THAT WAS CARRYING THE MICROPHONE.
IF HE COMPLETELY IGNORED ME, I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP.
I WAS WITHIN FEW FEET FOR AT LEAST FOUR TIMES, MANY TIMES RAISING MY HAND AND COMPLETELY IGNORED.
THERE'S PEOPLE THAT WERE TOOK NOTICE OF THIS ALSO.
AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT BECAUSE I WENT TO THAT MEETING WITH GOOD INTENTIONS OF SPEAKING ABOUT HOMELESS MAINLY, WHICH I NEVER GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO.
THIS WAS THE MEANING THAT THE TOWN HALL MEETING AT THE HIGH SCHOOL? YES.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, AT FIRST I THOUGHT IT WAS JUST, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A STIFLING OF DISSENSION OR SOMETHING, BUT I SAID NO.
I SAID I HAD GOOD INTENT BEING THERE.
I FELT WAS MORE OF AN INSULT TO MY DIGNITY AS A CITIZEN OF EL CAHONE.
THERE WERE SOME GOOD POINTS AT THAT MEETING.
UH, TONY CHUTE MADE A GREAT PRESENTATION, ANSWERED SOME CLARIFIED QUESTIONS.
OF COURSE, CITY MANAGER, GREY MITCHELL ALSO.
UH, AND LIKE I SAID, IT DID TURN OUT KIND OF NICE FOR ME CAUSE THE LAST SPEAKER WAS, UH, THE PASTOR FROM THE HOPE CENTER BECAUSE HE MENTIONED THE WORD HUMANITY.
AND I DID APPROACH HIM AT THE END OF THE MEETING BECAUSE I HAD JOTTED SOMETHING DOWN, UH, THAT, UH, I DEALT WITH THIS HERE AND I'LL READ IT TO YOU REAL QUICKLY.
UH, ULTIMATELY IT IS NOT OUR HUMANITY, NOT THE ABSENCE OF IT.
THAT IS THE TRUE SOURCE OF ECONOMIC GROWTH AND OF, OF A FLOURISHING CITY, STATE GOVERNMENT OR WHATEVER.
AND I THINK THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT.
UH, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN I COME TO THESE MEETINGS, WHEN WE'RE SPEAKING OF HOMELESS PEOPLE, IT'S, I HAVE A WHOLE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.
I USED TO HAVE A SMALL BUSINESS.
I FED THOUSANDS OF HOMELESS PEOPLE AND I UNDERSTOOD THEM THIS, SOME OF THESE SAME PEOPLE ACTUALLY BROKE INTO BY HIS STABLISH MAN AT TIMES.
BUT I UNDERSTOOD THAT THEY HAD A PROBLEM AND FROST.
FORTUNATELY I WAS ABLE TO WORK WITH A LOCAL CHURCH, A PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH RIGHT DOWN THE BLOCK.
SO I KNOW TIME IS LIMITED HERE, BUT IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, BECAUSE I NEVER DID GET A CHANCE TO REALLY SPEAK THAT NIGHT, I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP.
WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE SAID THAT MADE WHAT? WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS RIGHT AT THAT PARTICULAR DAY WAS, UH, AT THAT VERY SAME DAY, THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO WAS HOLDING A, UH, HOW DO YOU WANT TO SAY IT? THE UH, YOU KNOW, UH, A MEETING WHERE THEY DID EVERYTHING, KIND OF LIKE THE STAND DOWN AT THE SAN DIEGO CITY DOES FOR THE VETERANS.
THEY WERE DOING THAT THAT VERY SAME DAY.
AND, AND OF COURSE I WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT MY EXPERIENCE WITH THE HOMELESS, YOU KNOW, AND MY POINT OF VIEW, WHICH I DON'T HEAR VERY MUCH OF ABOUT THE HOMELESS PEOPLE AND THE APPROACH TO IT.
AND I UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE ARE UPSET CITIZENS, BUT IT GOES MUCH DEEPER THAN THAT.
YOU KNOW, UH, THERE WAS AN EXAMPLE THAT I EVEN TOOK NOTICE OF AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING ABOUT, UM, U S UH, RUTH THORTON ABOUT, UH, WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN SOMEONE SAYS TO YOU, I DON'T WANT THE HELP.
IN MY EXPERIENCE, MOST OF THEM WOULD SAY TO ME, I GET RIPPED OFF WHEN I GO TO THESE SHELTERS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IN CONJUNCTION WITH MY LOCAL, UH, UH, RELIGIOUS ESTABLISHMENT THERE, UH, I WOULD TELL THEM, WELL, IF YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND, COME BACK.
AND A LOT OF TIMES I HAD THEM COMING BACK TO ME.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU JUST DON'T MAKE CONTACT AND ACCEPT THE NO, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THESE PEOPLE, THEY MAY BE ON THE DRUGS.
WHO KNOWS? THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS FOR PEOPLE BEING HOMELESS, AS YOU ALL WELL KNOW.
BUT, UH, AND SOMETIMES LIKE, LIKE, UH, RUTH THOUGHT AND WE WERE JUST TALKING ON THE WAY OVER HERE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO MAKE CONTACT TWO OR THREE TIMES.
AND I, AND EVEN IN TODAY'S PAPER, THERE WAS AN ARTICLE ABOUT, UH, UH, ABOUT THE LACK OF DATA BETWEEN CITIES, ABOUT HOMELESS SITUATION.
AND, UH, I ALSO, THIS STOOD OUT TO ME BECAUSE, UH, THE CITY OF ELKA HOME, UH, STOPPED FUNDING
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MULTI-SERVICE PROGRAMS IN 2012, SORRY, WORKS IN TODAY'S LOCAL PAPER, MULTI-SERVICE IT, THEY STOPPED FUNDING IT IN 2012.AND THIS IS, THIS IS MORE OR LESS WHAT MY APPROACH IS.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS.
I COULD SPEAK FOREVER ABOUT MY EXPERIENCE AND THINGS, BUT I JUST THINK THAT THE HOMELESS, THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE MISREPRESENTED IN MANY WAYS.
IT'S, IT'S NOT YOU, YOU MAY OR YOU SAY YOU WORK WITH MENTAL, THE MENTAL END OF THINGS AND YOU SHOULD, I FEEL YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND THIS HERE, THAT MOST OF THESE PEOPLE, I THINK THAT WITH A LOT OF HOMELESS PEOPLE, WHAT'S KEEPING THEM ALIVE IS ACTUALLY SOME TIME THE DRUGS THAT THEY TAKE AND EVERYTHING.
I'VE WORKED WITH A LOT OF VETERANS MAINLY AT THAT TIME BECAUSE I WAS CLOSE TO BALBO PARK, LOADED WITH HOMELESS PEOPLE.
AND, UM, I DUNNO IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME RIGHT NOW, BUT I FEEL GOOD THAT I FINALLY GOT A CHANCE TO EXPRESS A LITTLE BIT FOR NOW AND I WILL BE FOLLOWING UP ON IT.
AND ALSO JUST REAL QUICKLY, UM, UH, MR. MITCHELL, I'LL HOPE TO GET IN CONTACT WITH YOU AGAIN ABOUT THE WHOLE RENT MEDIATION PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH AND I'LL HOPE TO, YOU KNOW, FILL YOU IN A LITTLE BIT MORE.
BUT I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND LIKE I SAID, IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
SO I THINK YOU ARTICULATED IT VERY WELL.
OKAY, SO I MAY HAVE ANOTHER LOOP FOR A LITTLE BIT, BUT I WANTED TO KNOW WHEN THEY PUT ON A JET, WHEN IT WAS ON AGENDA TO CHANGE THE NAME OF THE EAST COUNTY PERFORMING ARTS CENTER TO THE MAGNOLIA PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.
I DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE THAT.
MR. BARRETT WAS NOT PUT ON THE AGENDA.
IT'S NOT BETTER THAN CHILDREN.
WHY IS THIS? WHY WASN'T IT PUT ON AN AGENDA? I MEAN WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE A, WE DON'T HAVE A SAY SO IN WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CALL OUR BUILDING OR IF WE WANTED IT CHANGED.
GRANDMA'S BIT OFFICIALLY CHANGED.
IT'S OFFICIALLY CHANGE RIGHT NOW.
I MEAN IF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM TO TALK ABOUT IT, WE CAN DO THAT.
YEAH, I HADN'T, I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
I WAS JUST WONDERING BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT WOULD SEEM THAT, THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY FOUGHT FOR AND THAT WE'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, GOING OUT AND GOING OUT AND YOU GUYS KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I'VE BEEN UP HERE BLABBING ABOUT IT, THAT WE NEED TO GET IT GOING AGAIN AND JUST TO UP AND CHANGE THE NAME OF IT.
JUST KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT EVEN SAYING ANYTHING TO ANYBODY.
AND ALSO, WHAT WAS IT, I'M SORRY I MISSED THE FIRST PART OF IT, BUT I'M ALSO, I WONDER IF TO ASK THE POLICE STATION THAT WERE DOING THE HAMPTON AND STUFF LIKE THAT, HAVE ANYBODY DROVE BY THERE? BECAUSE I SEE THEM PUTTING UP THE OTHER BUILDINGS.
THERE IS NO WAY THEY'RE GOING TO FIT 96 96 ROOM HOTEL THERE.
AND IF THEY ARE ABLE TO DO THAT, WHERE ARE WE GOING TO PUT ALL THE PARKING I HAVE, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE OVER THE HOME DEPOT PARKING LOT OR WHAT'S GOING ON WITHOUT IT.
DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT? OR IF MS. HARPER WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THE PLANS, THE PLANS SHOW EXACTLY HOW THE PROJECTS LAID OUT AND THE HEIGHT OF IT AND WHERE THE PARKING'S LOCATED.
INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY PERSON WHO'S MENTIONED THAT THE POINT OF VIEW OF THE ANGLE FROM WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT.
I THINK ONCE YOU SEE IT, IT'S ALL DONE.
AND LASTLY, UM, ALSO I'VE BEEN ASKING FOR A FEW YEARS NOW ABOUT PUTTING ABOUT PUTTING ON AGENDA, SWITCHING THE TIMES FROM THE SEVEN TO MAKING THE SEVEN O'CLOCK UH, CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS OR THE HOUSING MEETINGS HERE AT THREE AND THEN IN THE ONES HERE, THIS ONE AT SEVEN, SOME MORE PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO ATTEND.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING WHY MY REQUEST HASN'T BEEN EVEN ANSWERED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IS THERE A PROBLEM WITH CHANGING THAT OR PUTTING EVEN PUTTING IT ON AGENDA? I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR YOU.
YOU HAVE MEETINGS AT THREE OF SEVEN RIGHT? SO IF WE COULD SWITCH THE SEVEN O'CLOCK ONE TO THREE AND THREE O'CLOCK ONE TO SEVEN.
SO MORE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE AT THREE O'CLOCK PEOPLE ARE GETTING OFF WORK, FIGHTING TRAFFIC, PICKING UP THEIR KIDS, YOU KNOW, DOING THEIR THINGS AND AT SEVEN PEOPLE ARE MORE APT TO HAVE A ALREADY DINNER DONE, SETTLED IN AND BE ABLE TO COME TO A MEETING AND THERE WOULD BE MORE COMMUNITY INPUT AND THERE'D BE A LOT MORE COMMUNITY CITIZENS OUT HERE TO THE MEETINGS.
BUT YOU REALIZE WE DO HAVE A MEETING AT SEVEN RIGHT? I'M JUST SAYING SWITCH THE TWO
I WOULD JUST LIKE GET PUT ON AN AGENDA TO MAYBE SWITCH THOSE TWO MEETINGS.
BUT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING AT SEVEN AND THE OTHER MEETING AT THREE, THEY'RE BOTH CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS.
UM, I, I'VE NEVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
UH, IT WOULD JUST MAKE IT TO WHERE MORE PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO BE INVOLVED IN THEIR COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, IS THERE SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY
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THAT YOU'D WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO, TO BE INVOLVED WITH THAT I WOULD LIKE THEM TO BE ABLE TO BE.I WOULD, I WOULD LOVE IT IF, IF ALL THE COMMUNITY WOULD GET INVOLVED AND READ THE FULL AGENDA, SEE THE DETAILS OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
LIKE SAY FOR INSTANCE, UM, THE MONEY'S BEEN ASKED FOR AND QUESTION IT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
IT'S SUPPOSE TO BE TRANSPARENCY GOVERNMENT TO WHERE WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS, GET OUR QUESTIONS ANSWERED IN A COMMON SENSE KIND OF WAY.
WELL, THEY'RE CERTAINLY WILLING TO ABLE TO COME AT SEVEN ASK QUESTIONS.
UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE IF IT, IF SOMEBODY COULD PUT IT ON AGENDA, I KNOW ONE OF YOU GENTLEMEN CAN OPT TO PUT IT ON AGENDA FOR MAYBE JUST WE'D GET A VOTE ON IT.
I'LL TALK TO, I'LL TALK TO OUR CITY MANAGER ABOUT HOW THIS IS NORMALLY DONE.
I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT WOULD DISENFRANCHISE ANYBODY.
SO I JUST THINK WE SHOULD NEED TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY INVOLVED A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WE HAVE BEEN.
WHAT I'VE FOUND IS THAT, UH, THE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL, UM, PEOPLE THAT WANT TO UM, FIND OUT ABOUT THE MEETING, THEY CAN WATCH IT ON A LIVE THE LAST FEW YEARS ON THEIR COMPUTER OR THEIR CELL PHONE AND UM, IF THEY WANT TO COME IN TO THE NEXT MEETING, IF THEY MISS SOMETHING AND WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT IT, THEY CAN, LIKE SOMETIMES WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT MOST PEOPLE WORK NINE TO FIVE, THEIR KIDS GET OUT AT THREE SO THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT HERE AT THREE THE SEVEN O'CLOCK MEETING WHEN WE EVER SEVEN AND THEY'LL BE ABLE TO TALK TO THE TALK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT OUR AGENDA AT THE THREE O'CLOCK MEETING PUBLIC COMMENT, JUST LIKE THE THREE O'CLOCK THAT WE FIND OUT, WE SEE THAT NOT MANY PEOPLE COME TO THE SEVEN O'CLOCK MEETING.
OTHER THAN THOSE THAT MAYBE HAVE SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, THEY WANT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA AND THAT I WOULD THINK JUST MAYBE TRYING TO SWITCH THEM WITH C, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GET AN IDEA OF MAYBE MORE PEOPLE COULD COME AT SEVEN.
I AGREE WITH YOU THAT IT'S NICE TO GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO BOTH.
THAT BRINGS US TO PUBLIC HEARINGS.
[9. Municipal Code Exemption - Amendment to Zoning Code No. 438 RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council: Opens the public hearing and receives testimony; Closes the public hearing; and Moves to INTRODUCE the next ORDINANCE, in order, APPROVING the amendment to the Zoning Code (Title 17) that adds a new section exempting City projects from zoning regulations, processing, and any applicable specific plan.]
ITEM NUMBER NINE IS THE MUNICIPAL CODE EXEMPTION.I WANT TO ASK STAFF TO TELL US ABOUT THIS.
YOU'LL RECALL AT THE FEBRUARY 26 CITY COUNCIL MEETING STAFF PRESENTED AN OPPORTUNITY TO THE COUNCIL THAT CITY PROJECTS CAN BE MADE EXEMPT FROM THE ZONING CODE AND ZONING CODE REGULATIONS AND ITS PROCESSES.
THE CITY COUNCIL THEN DIRECTED THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING AT ITS MARCH 19TH MEETING TO PROCESS AN AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING CODE.
AND AT THAT MEETING, THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED THAT THE COUNCIL NOT ADOPT THE PROPOSED CODE EXEMPTION.
THIS PROPOSED EXEMPTION IS NOT UNCOMMON.
UM, IN FACT, MANY GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES ARE NOT SUBJECT TO LOCAL LAND USE LAWS.
AND MANY CITIES ACROSS THE STATE AS WELL AS THE NATION HAVE ADOPTED THIS OR A SIMILAR, A SIMILAR CODE EXEMPTION.
UM, HOWEVER, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO MENTION THAT THE PROPOSED EXEMPTION IS ONLY FOR THE OKLAHOMA ZONING REGULATIONS AND PROCESSES.
UH, THE EXEMPTION FOR CITY PROJECTS AND USES FROM THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN THE ZONING CODE IN ITS PROCESSES DOES NOT EXEMPT PROJECTS FROM ANY APPLICABLE CALIFORNIA BUILDING CODES, FIRE CODES, ELECTRICAL CODES, ET CETERA.
THE CITY FROM THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACTS ARE KNOWN AS ADA AND IT DOES NOT EXEMPT THE CITY FROM OTHER OUTSIDE AGENCY REQUIREMENTS.
UM, THINK OF REGIONAL WATER CONTROL BOARD AND THE STORM WATER REGULATIONS THAT WE ADHERE TO, THE CITY ADHERES TO OR NOR DOES IT EXEMPT THE CITY FROM SEQUEL.
UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT THIS MIGHT LOOK LIKE, UM, IN, IN, IN TERMS OF A USE OR A DEVELOPMENT, UM, THINK OF A PARK OR COMMUNITY CENTER OR EVEN A PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY, WHICH, UM, INSTEAD OF, UH, MEETING THE, THE ZONING STANDARDS, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, UH, THE CODE, UM, AND THE PROCESSES, UM, THE CITY WOULD NOT ISSUE ITS PERMIT LIKE IT.
LIKE IT WOULD NOW UNDER A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUIREMENT.
IT COULD EXEMPT ITSELF FROM THAT UNDER THIS, UNDER THIS PROPOSED EXEMPTION.
UM, AND MOST RECENTLY, IF WE TAKE THE EXAMPLE OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER, UH, THEY'RE REQUIRED THAT REQUIRED A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
IT DID GO TO THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, THAT TOOK ABOUT A SIX MONTH TIMEFRAME, UM, IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS AND COSTS THE CITY $41,000 TO PROCESS.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF SAVINGS, UM, WITH A MUNICIPAL CODE EXEMPTION FROM THE, UH, ZONING DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
UM, IT'S ALSO A PART AND TO NOTE THAT ALL CITY PROJECTS COME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL.
UH, THE ANIMAL SHELTER, WHICH WE JUST TALKED ABOUT, WAS BROUGHT BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, FOR PROJECT APPROVAL AND FUNDING.
UM, BEFORE WE WENT FORWARD WITH THAT.
UH, THE, THE EXEMPTION DOES NOT CHANGE THE PROJECT PROCESS AS WE JUST TALK ABOUT IT.
IT DOES STILL INCLUDE THE COUNCIL, WHICH WILL STILL BE A PART OF THAT PROCESS.
SOUTH THINKS THERE'S SOME ADVANTAGES TO HAVING SUCH AN EXEMPTION.
UM, IT AVOIDS UNNECESSARY DELAYS IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY OR AN ENACT AND MOVE FORWARD.
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OF MUNICIPAL RESOURCES AND AN UNNECESSARY COST TO TAXPAYERS.UM, SO THE STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THAT YOU, UH, THE COUNCIL MOVED TO INTRODUCE AN ORDINANCE TO UM, APPROVE THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING CODE AND THAT ADDS A NEW SECTION EXEMPTING CITY PROJECTS FROM THE ZONING REGS, REGULATIONS AND PROCESSES INCLUDING ANY APPLICABLE SPECIFIC PLANS.
AND IF YOU'VE TAKEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT'S IN THE CODE, THE EXEMPTION IS PRETTY SIMPLE.
JUST STATES THAT EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY LAW ANY ACTIVITIES OR DEVELOPMENTS AND OUR PROJECTS OF, OF OR INITIATED BY THE CITY SHALL BE EXEMPT FROM THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS ZONING CODE IN ANY APPLICABLE SPECIFIC PLAN.
HOWEVER, THE CITY WILL STRIVE TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PRACTICAL BASED ON INDIVIDUAL CIRCUMSTANCES.
WE THINK THIS WOULD BE UM, UM, A BENEFIT TO THE CITY IF THE CITY COUNCIL BELIEVES IT'S THE SAME AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
TARDY COUNSELOR, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? YOU MENTIONED ALL CITY PROJECTS.
IS IT REALLY ALL CITY PROJECTS OR WOULD THERE BE SOME CITY PROJECTS THAT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL? I THINK THERE ARE SOME CASES THAT IN UM, UH, FOR CONTRACTS LESS THAN 50,000, THE CITY MANAGER CAN MAKE THAT DECISION.
SO, SO MAYBE AN EXAMPLE OF THAT, I MEAN MOST MOST BIG PROJECTS WOULD TRIGGER SOME SORT OF CITY COUNCIL INVOLVEMENT, WHETHER IT BE A BUDGET APPROVAL OR A CONTRACT WITH A CONTRACTOR.
BUT MAYBE ONE EXAMPLE TO SHARE THAT COULD BE UNDER $50,000.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH FENCING COST, BUT LET'S SAY THERE WERE SOME, UM, NEED FOR A NEW GATE AT THE PUBLIC WORKS YARD AND WE FELT THAT THE BEST GATE FOR THE SECURITY OF THE PUBLIC'S EQUIPMENT WOULD BE AN EIGHT FOOT HIGH GATE.
AND OUR CODE, OUR ZONING CODE SAYS YOUR GATE CAN ONLY BE SIX FEET.
SO UNDER THIS SCENARIO, UNDER MY DISCRETION, WE COULD INSTALL AN EIGHT FOOT GATE RATHER THAN A SIX FOOT GATE RATHER THAN GOING TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND GETTING AN EXCEPTION TO THE CODE.
SO LET'S SAY THAT, UH, YOU WANTED TO PUT, UH, UH, GAS PUMPS ON THE WASTE MANAGEMENT PROPERTY, WHICH WE'RE NOT.
IT'S OUR PROPERTY WHICH WASTES MANAGEMENT LEASES AND WE WANT TO PUT GAS PUMPS ON THERE FOR A LIQUIFIED WHATEVER.
UH, WOULD THAT HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL OR, SO ASSUMING
SO IN THAT CASE IT WOULD TRIGGER A CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.
AND I GUESS FINALLY ANOTHER INSTANCE, LET'S SAY, UH, WELL TWO MORE.
UH, IF, IF THE CITY WANTED TO BUILD A FOUR STORY BUILDING ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY, THAT WOULD PROBABLY TRIGGER A CITY COUNCIL REVIEW.
I MEAN IF IT WERE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, LET'S SAY WE OWN SOME PROPERTY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND WE WERE GOING TO BUILD A PROPERTY 40 UNITS TO THE ACRE THAT THAT WOULDN'T TRIGGER ANYTHING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE REQUIRED.
WE CAN DO THAT BY, RIGHT? ANYBODY CAN DO THAT BY, RIGHT.
BUT LET'S SAY WE WANTED TO BUILD 60 UNITS TO THE ACRE, THAT WOULD TRIGGER A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
UNDER THIS SCENARIO, THE COUNCIL WOULD NOT, AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD NOT REVIEW THAT COMPONENT OF IT, BUT IF THE CITY WERE GOING TO BE DOING ANY DEVELOPMENT OF THAT SIZE, YOU'RE GOING TO BE HIRING AN ARCHITECT.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO TOUCH IT, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE HIRING A CONTRACTOR, YOU'RE GOING TO TOUCH IT, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO BE APPROVING IT AS PART OF THE BUDGET CAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE SOME CITY MONIES IN, IN INTO IT.
SO YOU'LL BE TOUCHING IT THEN.
SO THERE'LL BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALMOST ALL PROJECTS FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO HAVE SOME DISCRETION OVER THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS.
AND MR CHUTE MENTIONED THE ANIMAL SHELTER AS AN EXAMPLE.
SO I HAD THIS POLICY BEEN IN EFFECT, UH, PRIOR TO THE APPROVAL OF THE ANIMAL SHELTER.
THE CITY COUNCIL COULD HAVE SAID WHEN IT ADOPTED THE, THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE ARCHITECT, YOU COULD HAVE DIRECTED STAFF TO TAKE WHATEVER ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS, AS PART OF THE VETTING PROCESS.
SO YOU STILL HAVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS A, AS A TOOL THAT YOU COULD USE TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S GREATER VETTING THAN WOULD BE OTHERWISE.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
ANGELA, I ASSUME YOU HAVE TO SPEAK WITH CARDS ABOUT THIS.
SARAH, HOW LONG HAVE YOU CERTAINLY THE PLANNING COMMISSION NOW? ABOUT 10 YEARS.
UM, SO I COME TO YOU THAT REALLY AS A RESIDENT TODAY AS WELL.
UM, YOU KNOW, ONE THING I LOVE ABOUT OKLAHOMA IS THAT WE'RE A VERY TIGHT KNIT COMMUNITY AND WE'RE REALLY TRANSPARENT.
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AND, UM, WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS, TO ME IT REALLY LOOKED LIKE A BLANK CHECK, UH, FOR THE CITY.NOW I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE DON'T HAVE RESPONSIBLE CITY GOVERNMENT.
I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T HAVE RESPONSIBLE CITY COUNCIL AT THIS TIME, BUT I CAN'T ENSURE THAT IN THE FUTURE, UM, I CAN SHARE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL BE AROUND IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.
UH, THERE'S, AS YOU KNOW, THEY'RE STARTING TO GO TO THE WAYSIDE.
UM, SO MY CONCERN REALLY IS THAT THERE IS NO ABSOLUTE WAY FOR THE PUBLIC TO BE NOTIFIED DURING THE, DURING THE CUP PROCESS.
THE PUBLIC, IF YOU'RE WITHIN A CERTAIN DISTANCE OF THE PROJECT, YOU GET TO WEIGH IN AT THE VERY BEGINNING.
UM, YOU'RE NOTIFIED THIS WOULD DO AWAY WITH THAT BECAUSE THE ONLY CHANCE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE IS AFTER ALL THE DOLLARS WERE SPENT AND AFTER EVERYTHING WAS PRETTY MUCH DONE AND IT FINALLY POSSIBLY GOT TO YOU GUYS THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN.
SO I DON'T SEE THE PUBLIC GETTING A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN ON THAT.
UM, ALSO, IF YOU'RE GOING TO EXEMPT YOURSELF, YOU'RE GOING TO BE PLAYING BY TWO SETS OF RULES.
THE CITY'S GOING TO EXEMPT ITSELF FROM CERTAIN RULES, BUT ANYBODY THAT'S PRIVATE, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO COME AND GET A PERMIT, GO THROUGH THE SAME REVIEW PROCESS.
EITHER IT'S GOING TO BE A DECISION BY THE PLANNING STAFF OR IT'S GOING TO COME TO PLANNING COMMISSION.
AGAIN, TWO SETS OF RULES THERE.
I THINK IT'D BE BEST FOR TRANSPARENCY SAKE TO CONTINUE WITH THE SAME PROCESS AND THE CITY NOT BEING EXEMPTED.
UM, I'M NOT SO MUCH WORRIED ABOUT THE FINANCIAL BURDEN BECAUSE I THINK THE CITIES, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO GET DONE QUICKLY, THE CITY CAN FIND WAYS NOT TO TRIP OVER THEIR OWN BUREAUCRACY AND GET IT DONE.
AND SO I REALLY WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND JUST LIKE THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID ON LEAVING IT THE WAY IT IS.
I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT BIG OF A DEAL AT THE END OF THE DAY.
UM, AND I THINK IF THERE IS ISSUES THAT MAKE IT TOUGH, THEN THOSE ISSUES NEED TO GO AWAY FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL.
I MEAN, IF YOU GUYS ARE SAYING, WELL, THIS IS JUST A LOT OF WORK AND WE DON'T NEED TO DO ALL THIS WORK, THEN TAKE IT AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC AS WELL.
LET'S ALL BE ON THE SAME FIELD WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE OUR PROJECTS RUN THROUGH THE SYSTEM, HOW THEY GET APPROVED, WHETHER IT'S A STAFF TYPE.
I MEAN, WE'VE STREAMLINED A LOT OF THINGS WITH THE CITY OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS AND UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S MORE STREAMLINE IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
BUT TO ME THIS IS KIND OF A BLANK CHECK WHERE THERE'S NO OVERSIGHT AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THE WAY IT IS CONTINUE TO STAY THAT WAY.
CIRCLE PAUL ALSO ANOTHER LONGTERM MEMBER OF THE
UM, I AM COMING AS A PRIVATE RESIDENT WHO IS A STRONG BELIEVER IN SMALL GOVERNMENT GOVERNMENT THAT IS RUN BY THE PEOPLE AND FOR THE PEOPLE AND LOOKED AT THIS PARTICULAR EXEMPTION AND AS DARREN MENTIONED, IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY PARAMETERS.
IT ERASES THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
I UNDERSTAND THE PERMITTING AND THE PROCESSES THAT WE GO THROUGH IN THE CITY WHEN THE CITY IS SIGNING THEIR OWN HOMEWORK, ESSENTIALLY THERE ISN'T A POINT TO HAVING THEM GO THROUGH ALL THE STEPS OF SUBMITTING THIS PAPERWORK, CHECKING THAT BOX.
IT'S THE CITY DOING ITS OWN BUSINESS, BUT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT SETBACKS, WE'RE LOOKING AT HEIGHT LIMITATIONS, WE'RE LOOKING AT LOT COVERAGE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT A LOT OF FACTORS THAT PLAY INTO WHAT A PRIVATE CITIZEN CAN AND CANNOT DO AND WHAT THE GOVERNMENT CAN AND CANNOT DO.
I THAT IT IS NOT IN OUR FAVOR AT ALL.
TO REMOVE OUR CITY GOVERNMENT FROM THAT RESPONSIBILITY.
I THINK THAT AS WE REQUIRE OUR CITIZENS TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND HAVE A PROJECT THAT FITS THE AREA THAT FITS THE ZONING, THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD ALSO BE LOOKING AT, HEY, THIS IS OUR PROPERTY.
IF WE DON'T LIKE THE WAY THAT THAT ZONE IS REQUIRING A BUILDING TO BE BUILT OR A PROJECT TO RUN, WE HAVE A PROCESS TO CHANGE THAT.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS CURRENTLY, I WOULD SAY VERY HAPPY WITH THE CITY.
WE HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CURRENTLY MAKING DECISIONS, BUT WE AS CITIZENS OF OWN DO NOT KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN 20 YEARS AND IF WE CHANGE THIS LAW NOW, IT WILL STAY IN EFFECT FOR AS LONG AS IT'S ON THE BOOKS.
SO DECISION TO EXEMPT THE CITY OF L CONE FROM FOLLOWING THE ZONING ORDINANCE NOW DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO US.
IF THERE WAS A SPECIFIC PROJECT AND WE LOOKED AT THE SPECIFIC PROJECT AND SAID, THIS ONE DOESN'T QUITE FIT, I AM 100% SURE THAT THE CITIZENS OF OCA HOME AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD LOOK AT THAT PROJECT AND SAY, WELL LET'S CHANGE THE LAW SO THAT IT DOES FIT, BUT TO TAKE A SECTION
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OF LAW AND GO, YEAH, WELL WE DON'T HAVE TO FOLLOW THAT ONE JUST SEEMS WRONG TO ME.LIKE YOU PROBABLY SEE ANY QUESTIONS? GOOD POINTS.
ALL
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
A QUESTION FOR THE CITY MANAGER.
NOW ESSENTIALLY THIS IS LEAVES THE PLANNING COMMISSION OUT OF THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS AND THEN AND EVERYTHING IS STILL VETTED IN MOST CASES AT A CITY COUNCIL MEETING WITH PUBLIC INPUT.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
UNLESS, UNLESS THE COUNCIL WANTED TO PUSH SOME THINGS BACK DOWN TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR REVIEW, BUT AUTOMATIC, IT WOULD NOT AUTOMATICALLY GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION UNDER THE SCENARIO.
THE PUBLIC WOULD STILL, WELL ACTUALLY WITH THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE WITHIN 300 FEET STILL GET NOTIFIED OF THE, OF THE COUNCIL ACTION.
NO, THEY WOULD NOT BE NOTIFIED CAUSE IT, IT WOULDN'T TRIGGER A, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR EXAMPLE.
AND THAT'S WHAT TRIGGERS THE PUBLIC NOTICING.
CAN WE, UH, CREATE SOMETHING THAT DOES, UH, IF WE WERE TO VOTE, UH, IN OF THIS PROPOSAL, COULD WE HAVE SOMETHING THERE THAT SAID EVERYONE WITHIN 300 FEET DOES GET NOTICED.
WE HAVE A SPECIAL PROJECT LIKE THIS.
UM, SO, UH, OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, MISTER, SHE SAYS ABSOLUTELY.
CAUSE, CAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME THAT PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, THAT, THAT, THAT THEY'RE NOTIFIED IF SOMETHING'S GOING UP AND THEY CAN BE HERE AT THIS MEETING TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES.
ANYBODY ELSE? THAT'S A GOOD POINT, GARY.
AND, UH, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THE OBJECTIONS TO IT, BUT, UH, IT'S PROBABLY A MOVE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
SO, UH, I HAVE MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT THE PROGRAM TO ELIMINATE THE, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE CITY HAS TO DO, BUT ON OTHERS PROBABLY IT'S A GOOD IDEA LIKE THE ANIMAL SHELTER, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE BUREAUCRATIC RULES JUST LIKE A CITIZENS DO.
SO MAYBE THAT SHOULD STAY THAT WAY.
TO ME IT COMES TO, I ALWAYS ASK MYSELF WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE OF ALCOHOL AND WHAT IS GOOD.
AND WE KNOW TRANSPARENCY IS GOOD AND WE KNOW THAT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T LIKE TO BE TOLD THEY HAVE TO PLAY BY ONE SET OF RULES.
BUT THE CITY GETS TO PLAY BY A DIFFERENT SET OF RULES THAT KIND OF DOESN'T SOUND REAL GOOD TO THE PUBLIC.
TIME IS MONEY WHEN IT COMES TO DEVELOPMENT.
ANYBODY WHO'S EVER DEVELOPED ANYTHING KNOWS THAT THE LONGER IT TAKES, THE MORE EXPENSIVE IT GETS.
AND SO THE LONGER IT TAKES TO DEVELOP SOMETHING, THE MORE TAX PAYER DOLLARS ARE, ARE USED.
UH, BUT IN THE CASE OF GOVERNMENT, SLOWER IS GOOD.
SOMETIMES IN PRIVATE INDUSTRY OUR COMPANY GETS TO MOVE AS FAST AS WE WANT TO BECAUSE IT'S OUR MONEY.
WE'RE TAKING THE RISK SO IF WE LOSE THE MONEY IT'S ON US.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE PUBLIC MONEY, WHOA, WHOA, MAYBE WE BETTER SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
IT'S THE PUBLIC'S MONEY AND FOR THAT REASON MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T MOVE QUITE AS FAST AS WE DO IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
WE HAVE TO BE MORE THOUGHTFUL, CAREFUL, ALLOW FOR MORE PUBLIC INPUT.
ON THE OTHER HAND, THE CITY IS ONE OF THE FASTEST CITIES THAT I AM AWARE OF IN TERMS OF GETTING THINGS THROUGH THE PIPELINE.
BUILDERS LOVE TO COME TO OKLAHOMA BECAUSE I THINK WE HAVE THE SECOND LOWEST PERMIT FEES AMONG THE 18 CITIES IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY AND WE HAVE A VERY FAST COMPARATIVELY A PROCESS SO IT COMES DOWN TO MEET COUPLED COUPLE OF THINGS.
OUR COUNSEL VERSUS A AS WHAT I THINK PAUL SAID, A FUTURE COUNCIL.
WE DON'T KNOW 20 YEARS FROM NOW WHAT THEIR POSITIONS MIGHT BE.
AND THIS IS KIND OF SET IN STONE UNLESS SOMEBODY ARE IT.
IS THERE AN URGENCY FOR US TO DO THIS, TO SET IT IN STONE FOR THE NEXT 10, 20 YEARS? I'M FALLING BACK TO WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC, UH, TRANSPARENCY THEY WANT TO SEE BY THE PLATE.
SAME PLAY BY THE SAME SET OF RULES.
UH, SO I'M NOT REALLY LIKING THIS BECAUSE I DON'T SEE AN URGENCY.
I STILL WOULD LIKE US TO BE TRANSPARENT.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US PLAY BY THE SAME RULES.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE PUBLIC WANTS.
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YOU MAKE GOOD POINTS TOO.I, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE REALLY ARGUE WITH THAT.
I'D MOVE THAT WE DENY THE, UH,
HE'S ONLY, CAN YOU RESET MY VOTING BUTTON PLEASE? THANK YOU.
WOULD ANYBODY SECOND MOVING THE SECOND PLEASE? VOTE.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
THANK YOU JOEL FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
ITEM 11 IS THE FISCAL YEAR 2018 THROUGH 19 MID YEAR REPORT AND FIVE YEAR BUSINESS PLAN UPDATE STAFF.
WOULD YOU TELL US ABOUT THIS MATTER BEFORE YOU GET TO 11, YOU HAVE ITEM 10 TO ADDRESS, OH, I'M SORRY.
[10. Amendment of Specific Plan No. 182 - Freestanding Signs RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council: Opens the public hearing and receives testimony; Closes the public hearing; and Moves to INTRODUCE the next ORDINANCE in order APPROVING the amendment to Specific Plan No. 182.]
HEARING.I AM TENNIS AMENDMENT OF SPECIFIC PLAN ONE 82 AND THEN STAFF.
WOULD YOU TELL US ABOUT THIS PLACE? AARON? COUNCIL.
UM, THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU TODAY, UM, IS UM, A REQUEST OR A PROPOSAL TO AMEND THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN IN TERMS OF ITS SIGN REGULATIONS.
UM, DOWNTOWN SIGN PROVISIONS ARE PRIMARILY DESIGNED TO ALLOW FOR THE IDENTIFICATION OF BUSINESSES AND SERVICES AT THE PEDESTRIAN LEVEL.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE IN SOME CASES, THERE ARE PROPERTIES IN THE DOWNTOWN THAT ARE DESIGNED TO ATTRACT PEDESTRIANS.
IN FACT, THERE ARE FOUR PROPERTIES THAT ARE SEVEN ACRES OR MORE THAT, UM, DON'T FIT THAT, THAT GOAL OF THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN.
AND THOSE INCLUDE THE CIVIC CENTER HERE WHERE WE HAVE POLICE, CITY HALL AND ACT PACK, UH, COURTS JUST TO THE EAST OF US.
UH, THE, UM, 24 HOUR FITNESS AND A ROSS SHOPPING CENTER AS WELL AS THE MAGNOLIA SHOPPING CENTER TO THE NORTH WARD MOTORWORLD IS, AND UM, RUBIO'S ET CETERA.
ALL THOSE PROPERTIES ARE SEVEN ACRES OR MORE AND NOT QUITE DESIGNED AT THE PEDESTRIAN SCALE.
SO WE THINK THESE LARGER SITES WOULD BENEFIT FROM, UM, A MORE FLEXIBILITY IN WHAT THE SIGN ALLOWANCES ARE IN THE, IN THE MASTER PLAN.
SO WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS THAT, UM, TO ALLOW US HIRE SIGN UP TO 20 FEET HIGH ONLY ON PROPERTIES THAT ARE AT LEAST SEVEN ACRES OR MORE.
UH, THE SIGN COULD BE NO MORE THAN FIVE FEET WIDE OR A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET.
SO IN EXCHANGE OF BEING, UH, UM, HAVING A MONUMENT SIGN, WHICH IS CURRENTLY ALLOWED, A MONUMENT SIGN CAN BE EIGHT FEET HIGH AND 120 SQUARE FEET.
WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED AS 20 FEET HIGH, FIVE FEET WIDE, A HUNDRED SQUARE FEET, WHICH WOULD RESULT IN A MORE NARROW BLADE, LIKE APPEARANCE MUST BE, UH, INTEGRATED AS A WHOLE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE.
SO THE EXPECTATION WOULD BE ALONG THE LINES OF A BLADE SIGN.
SO THESE ARE THE BEST EXAMPLES THAT WE COULD COME UP WITH TO SHOW THE CITY COUNCIL WHAT UM, A BLADE SIGN MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
SO AN EXCHANGE FOR GREATER HEIGHT SO YOU CAN CAPTURE, UM, UM, DRIVERS THAT ARE HEADING DOWN MAGNOLIA OR MAIN STREET, THE HIGHER SIGN WOULD ACHIEVE THAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT'S NARROWNESS OR WOULD BE LESS BULKY AND BE MORE IN LINE WITH AN URBAN BLADE SIGN.
SOMETHING THAT WE'RE, WE THINK WOULD STILL FIT WITHIN THE GOALS OF THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT ITS MAY MARCH 19TH MEETING, UM, UM, RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THIS PROPOSED AMENDMENT AND THE STAFF AS WELL AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.
ANGELA, DO YOU HAVE ANY SPEED CARDS? WE HAVE NO CARDS HERE.
THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
VOTE MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
WELL, THERE'VE BEEN MANY TIMES WHEN I'VE BEEN DRIVING IN OTHER CITY, OTHER CITIES WHERE I WAS, I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE BUSINESSES AND AS LOOKING FOR A PARTICULAR BUSINESS AND I'M TRYING TO LOOK, YOU KNOW, IN THE PARKING LOT AREA AT EACH SIGN AND TRY NOT TO RUN INTO SOMEBODY.
AND I THINK THESE TYPES OF SIGNS WOULD BE MUCH MORE HELPFUL BECAUSE I COULD JUST SCAN ONE F ONE SIGN NEAR THE ROAD WITHOUT HAVING THE LOOK AWAY FROM WHERE I'M GOING.
SO I THINK THIS MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
AND IN A SAFETY, UH, YOU KNOW, SINCE I HAVE THOUGHTS.
WERE THERE ANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT LIGHTING AT NIGHT,
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UH, FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR STAFF? NO, THERE WERE, THERE WERE NO, UM, ISSUES REGARDING LIGHTS.UM, THE MONUMENT SIGNS CAN HAVE A LIGHT FROM INTERNALLY, UM, OR PROJECTED FROM, FROM, FROM THE GROUND LEVEL.
UM, WE HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED ANY ISSUES WITH THE EXISTING MONUMENT SIGNS IN TERMS OF LIGHT IN THE DOWNTOWN.
DOES THE CITY HAVE ANY SAY ON DESIGN STANDARDS? IT DOES IN THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN.
SO THERE ARE SOME DESIGN STANDARDS TO ENSURE THAT SIGNS MEET THE EXPECTATIONS? YEAH.
ALL RIGHT, WELL IT SEEMS LIKE A STRAIGHT FORWARD KIND OF THING TO ME.
I WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION MOVE APPROVAL DEGEN SECONDLY, PLEASE VOTE MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT AND WITH THEIR PERMISSION.
MAYOR, I WILL READ THE TITLE AND ORDINANCE AMENDING TITLE 17 OF THE EL CAHONE MUNICIPAL CODE AND ADDING A NEW SECTION 17.3 5.0702 CHAPTER 17.35 TO, I APOLOGIZE I'M READING THE WRONG TITLE.
AND ORDINANCE AMENDING SPECIFIC PLAN NUMBER ONE 82 TO ALLOW FOR FREE STANDING SIGNS UP TO 20 FEET HIGH ON QUALIFYING DEVELOPMENT SITES.
[11. Fiscal Year 2018-19 Mid-Year Report and Five-Year Business Plan Update RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council: Receives and accepts the Fiscal Year 2018-19 Mid-Year Report and Five-Year Business Plan update; Increases or modifies Fiscal Year 2018-19 appropriations in the net amount of $245,000 for additional needs as detailed in this report; and Authorizes the proposed capital expenditures detailed in this report.]
LOVE IT IS THE FISCAL YEAR 20 1819 MIDYEAR REPORT AND FIVE YEAR BUSINESS PLAN UPDATE STAFF.WOULD YOU TELL US ABOUT THIS PLACE? MR COUNCIL AS A CLICHE AND OUR FINANCE DIRECTOR MAKES HIS WAY TO THE PODIUM.
I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT IN THE PAST WE INCLUDED THIS REPORT AS TYPICALLY A CONSENT ITEM.
UM, THIS IS REALLY MORE OF A FORECAST OF WHERE WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THE COUNCIL AN IDEA, BUT WE FEEL THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THE CITY COUNCIL DOES AND SO WE'VE, WE'VE PULLED THIS OFF CONSENT AND PUT IT ONTO THE OPEN OPEN MEETING WITH THAT MR SHANE.
ALL RIGHT, CHRIS, THANKS FOR COMING.
GOOD AFTERNOON, HONORABLE MAYOR, DISTINGUISHED MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND CITY STAFF.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF FINANCE FOR THE CITY OF EL CAHONE AND OUR ITEM TODAY CONSISTS OF THREE PARTS.
WE'LL CHECK IN ON THE CURRENT YEAR, SEE HOW WE'RE DOING YEAR TO DATE WITH HIGHLIGHTS FROM OUR MEDIA REPORT.
THEN WE'LL LOOK A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AHEAD WITH OUR FIVE YEAR BUSINESS PLAN AND THEN DO A LITTLE BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING WITH THREE BUDGET AMENDMENTS TO THE
THIS IS JUST UNDER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS OVER OUR FYA 19 BUDGET.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT HERE THAT THE TWO PRIMARY REVENUE SOURCES IN THE GENERAL FUND, SALES, TAX AND PROPERTY TAXES ARE COMING IN SLIGHTLY UNDER BUDGET.
UM, THE SOFTENING IS SOMETHING WE'LL TOUCH ON HERE IN JUST A FEW SLIDES.
UM, OTHER REVENUE CATEGORIES, HOWEVER, ARE COMING IN JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER BUDGET.
ON THE EXPENDITURE SIDE, EXPENDITURES ARE PROJECTED TO TOTAL 78 POINT $1 MILLION.
THIS IS APPROXIMATELY $2 MILLION UNDER THE 80 POINT $1 MILLION BUDGET.
SALARIES AND BENEFITS ARE JUST A LITTLE BIT OVER BUDGET, WHILE OTHER CATEGORIES ARE BELOW.
WITH MOST OF THE SAVINGS COMING FROM MATERIALS, SUPPLIES AND SERVICES.
THIS ACTIVITY TAKEN TOGETHER REPRESENTS A REDUCTION OF FUND BALANCE OF APPROXIMATELY TWO POINT $8 MILLION AS EXPENDITURES EXCEED REVENUES.
HOWEVER, WHILE THAT SOUNDS LIKE BAD NEWS, THE PLAN AT ADOPTION OF THE 19 BUDGET ANTICIPATED REDUCTION OF FUND BALANCE OF APPROXIMATELY FIVE POINT $3 MILLION.
AS WE SHIFTED FUNDING FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE CIP FUND FOR THE PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.
SO THIS IS ACTUALLY 2.5 MILLION BETTER THAN WE PLANNED.
SO I WILL CATEGORIZE THAT AS GOOD NEWS.
MOVING TO THE FIVE YEAR BUSINESS PLAN AND THE ECONOMIC OUTLOOK SPECIFICALLY.
THIS IS A VERY INTERESTING TIME IN TERMS OF THE ECONOMY AND THERE'S A VARIETY OF NEWS SOURCES OUT THERE.
WE HAVE SOME ECONOMIC PUNDENTS THAT ARE ALREADY CALLING THAT WE ARE ON THE BEGINNING OF A RECESSION, WHILE OTHERS ARE MERELY SAYING THAT WE'RE GROWING AT A SLOWER RATE, BUT IT'S STILL POSITIVE.
UM, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE CONCLUSION DRAWN BY THESE PUNDANTS, IT'S WORTH NOTICING THAT MOST ARE SPEAKING AND RECOGNIZING OF A CHANGE IN THE ECONOMY AND WE'RE SEEING THAT LOCALLY HERE SPECIFICALLY IN THE SOFTENING OF OUR MAJOR REVENUE SOURCES.
YEAH, CALPERS IS THE OTHER MAJOR COMPONENT OR INFLUENCE ON THE FIVE-YEAR PROJECTIONS THAT WE'LL LOOK AT HERE IN A MINUTE.
INCLUDED IN THAT IS OUR NORMAL DISCUSSION
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ABOUT RATES.THAT COMPONENT OF, UH, PAYROLL THAT, UH, REPRESENTS CALPERS CONTRIBUTIONS NEXT FISCAL YEAR.
THE MISCELLANEOUS PLAN HAS ANTICIPATED RATES OF APPROXIMATELY 53% THAT PLANS CONTRIBUTIONS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WILL GROW TO 61.6% WHEREAS THE SAFETY PLAN IS ANTICIPATED TO BE APPROXIMATELY 67.7% NEXT YEAR AND THAT WILL GROW TO 80.7% SO THAT MEANS IN THIS CASE, THAT FOR EVERY DOLLAR WE PAY ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES, IF IT'S A MISCELLANEOUS PLAN MEMBER, WE HAVE TO PAY AN ADDITIONAL 62 CENTS TO CALPERS AND APPROXIMATELY 81 CENTS TO THE SAFETY PLAN ALL TOGETHER IN TOTAL DOLLARS.
NEXT YEAR WE'RE ANTICIPATING CONTRIBUTIONS TO TOTAL $19 MILLION.
THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 2.32 POINT $4 MILLION MORE THAN THIS FISCAL YEAR.
BUT THOSE CONTRIBUTIONS ARE EXPECTED TO GROW TO JUST SHY OF $25 MILLION OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
AND THIS IS A MESSAGE I DELIVER FAIRLY REGULARLY TO THIS BODY AND FRANKLY ANYONE THAT'LL LISTEN TO ME.
LAST YEAR WE TALKED ABOUT HOW IN WITHIN FIVE YEARS, ONE OUT OF EVERY $4 THE GENERAL FUND SPENDS WILL BE TO CALPERS.
AND FOR FEAR OF SOUNDING REDUNDANT, I WONDERED IF TRY TO THINK ABOUT A NEW WAY OF EXPRESSING THAT AND WANTING TO TRY TO EXPRESS THAT IN A DIFFERENT WAY.
WE RECENTLY PURCHASED A NEW FIRE ENGINE AND WE LABORED OVER THIS DECISION.
IT WAS APPROXIMATELY $800,000 NEXT FISCAL YEAR, THE AMOUNT OF MONEY ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE'RE PAYING CALPERS FOR THIS YEAR IS EQUIVALENT TO BUYING THREE FIRE ENGINES NEXT YEAR.
THEN AFTER THAT FIVE FIRE ENGINES THE YEAR AFTER SEVEN MORE THAN NINE AND THEN 10 SO AT THE END OF THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WE WOULD HAVE PAID CALPERS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE PAID THIS FISCAL YEAR OR THE EQUIVALENT OF 34 FIRE ENGINES.
SO THE MEAT AND POTATOES OF THE FIVE YEAR BUSINESS PLAN OR THE PROJECTIONS, PROJECTIONS AND THE PURPOSE OF THE PROJECTIONS IS IDENTIFY PROBLEMS WE HAVE IN OUR LONGTERM PLANNING.
BASICALLY WE TAKE THE MODEL THAT WE'VE SET IN PLACE THIS FISCAL YEAR AND WITHOUT ANTICIPATING ANY CHANGES, WE RUN THAT OUT FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
NOW KEEP IN MIND THIS IS WITH NO BID ENGAGEONE.
THIS IS NO MANAGEMENT DECISIONS BEING MADE AND IT'S NOT ANTICIPATING ANY SURPRISES.
LIKE I SAID, THESE ARE, IT'S A TOOL USED TO IDENTIFY SYSTEMIC PROBLEMS. UM, PROJECTIONS ARE LIMITED WITH OUR, BY OUR ABILITY TO LOOK INTO THE FUTURE FOR THE UNFORESEENS AND MORE IMPORTANTLY FOR THE DECISIONS WE HAVE NOT MADE.
ALSO IT, IT RESTS ON THE STRENGTH OF OUR ASSUMPTIONS.
WE ASSUME A NUMBER OF GROWTH RATES AND FRANKLY THERE ARE GUESSES.
THERE ARE BEST GUESSES, THERE ARE INFORMED GUESSES, BUT WE DON'T ALWAYS GET THEM RIGHT.
SO LOOKING AT THE PROJECTIONS, AND THIS IS A VERY COMMON PATTERN THAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
WE ARE PROJECTING FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT DEFICITS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.
WE SEE THE DEFICITS GROW FROM OUR PROJECTED 19 RESULTS OF 2.8 AS WE'VE 2.8 MILLION, AS WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED GROWING UP TO 6.4 THIS ISN'T SOMETHING TO BE ALARMED ABOUT.
LIKE I SAID, WE HAVEN'T MADE ANY YET TAKEN ANY ACTION TO MITIGATE THIS YET AND WE WILL WITH EACH YEAR'S BUDGET.
AND AS WE PROGRESS, THIS IS A SIGN THAT AS AN AGENCY WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THIS, BE AWARE OF THIS CONDITION AND PERSISTENTLY BEYOND THE SEARCH FOR NEW REVENUE SOURCES AS WELL AS EFFICIENCIES AND WAYS TO SAVE MONEY.
FINALLY, THIS ACTION TODAY INCLUDES THREE BUDGET AMENDMENTS, ALL THREE OF WHICH ARE IN OUR INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS, THE FIRST OF WHICH IS AN IT SERVICE FUND AMENDMENT.
UM, AND THIS IS, THIS ACTION DOES NOT REPRESENT ANY NEW MONEY BEING SPENT.
WHAT IT IS, IS A REALIGNMENT OF WHEN WE PAY A BILL VERSUS WHEN WE RECEIVED THE BENEFIT MANY YEARS AGO.
THAT ARRANGEMENT ON THIS SUBJECT HAS BECOME DECOUPLED AND THIS ACTION IS TRYING TO GET THOSE IN ALIGNMENT AGAIN.
SO THAT DOES NOT REPRESENT NEW MONEY.
THE SECOND ONE, THE VEHICLE MAINTENANCE FUND THROUGH OPERATIONS TRUCKS, SIPS RECEIVED DAMAGE TO ITS BASKET.
IT'S THE LADDER TRUCK STATIONED IN SIX.
UM, AND THAT REQUIRES SPECIALTY REPAIR.
THAT WAS NOT ANTICIPATED AT THE TIME THE BUDGET WAS AMENDED.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION OF $130,000 FOR THAT REPAIR.
AND THEN THE THIRD IS IN THE VEHICLE EQUIPMENT AND REPLACEMENT FUND.
UM, WE HAD AUTHORIZED AS PART OF YOU AUTHORIZED AS PART OF A PREVIOUS YEAR'S BUDGET, UH, THE PURCHASE OF ASSIGNED TRUCK.
THAT PURCHASE COMES IN TWO PIECES,
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THE TRUCK AND THE SIGNAGE EQUIPMENT, THE TRUCK PURCHASE HAPPENED AS PLANNED.THERE WERE DELAYS IN PURCHASING THE SIGN EQUIPMENT.
THIS ACTION IS JUST REAPPROPRIATING THE MONEY IN ORDER TO COMPLETE THAT PURCHASE.
ALL THREE OF WHICH, UH, PROPOSED AMENDMENTS ARE FUNDED THROUGH THESE FUNDS, A PRIOR YEAR REVENUES THAT ARE IN THEIR FUND BALANCES AND DO NOT REQUIRE ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THEM.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF CLAY? SURE.
UH, CLAY, JUST TO PUT THINGS INTO PERSPECTIVE, UH, MOST CITIES, UH, ARE RECOMMENDED TO HAVE A 20%, UH, OF THEIR TOTAL BUDGET IN RESERVES.
AND WHAT DO WE HAVE IN RESERVE RESERVES AND WHAT WOULD THAT 20% RECOMMENDED VALUE BE? WE'RE PROJECTING AT THE END OF FISCAL YEAR 19.
OUR CURRENT FISCAL YEAR THAT WE WILL MAINTAIN OUR 20% OPERATING RESERVE OF APPROXIMATELY 15 POINT $7 MILLION.
ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE ESTABLISHED, YOU'VE ESTABLISHED HAVE ESTABLISHED TWO RESERVE BUCKETS, ONE TO HELP MITIGATE THE IMPACTS OF ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY, THE NEXT RECESSION OF APPROXIMATELY 6.5 MILLION AS WELL AS SETTING ASIDE SOME MONEY TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE GROWTH IN CALPERS CONTRIBUTIONS OF $8 MILLION.
THAT LEAVES APPROXIMATELY 15 POINT $3 MILLION UNASSIGNED FOR ANY OF THOSE PURPOSES WITH TOTAL RESERVES IN THE GENERAL FUND OF APPROXIMATELY 45 AND A HALF MILLION DOLLARS.
SO THERE ARE ABOUT THREE TIMES THE RECOMMENDED VALUES.
WE'LL BE BEING VERY PRUDENT HERE, THEREABOUTS.
CLAY, DO YOU SEE THE UM, PURS OBLIGATION CRESTING AND THEN DECLINING AT SOME POINT? YES, I BELIEVE THE PROJECTIONS, UH, PLATEAU RIGHT AT THE END OF OUR PROJECTIONS, RIGHT AT THE FIVE-YEAR SPOT AND MAINTAIN IT THAT LEVEL FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OR EXCUSE ME, 10 YEARS.
SO WHEN WE GET UP TO THAT LEVEL, IT STAYS AT PLATEAUS AT THAT LEVEL FOR, WITH, IT DOESN'T COME BACK DOWN WITH THE INFORMATION WE'RE BEING PROVIDED NOW.
ASSUMING NO ACTION BY THE CALPERS BOARD
SO WITH THE PROJECTED DEFICITS, WILL WE HAVE TO HAVE MORE RESERVES IN WHAT WE HAVE NOW IN ORDER TO GET THROUGH THAT PERIOD? UM, I WOULD REALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO FIND, I WOULD LIKE TO THINK WE'D BE ABLE TO FIND SOME OPERATIONAL SOLUTIONS BEFORE WE EMPTIED THE PIGGY BANK, SO TO SPEAK.
UM, I THINK THERE'S A VERY GOOD CHANCE THAT AT SOME POINT IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS WE WILL HAVE TO LEVERAGE OUR RESERVE ACCOUNTS, PARTICULARLY THE ECONOMIC UNCERTAINTY AND THE UNFUNDED RETIREMENT OBLIGATION.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO FIND NEW REVENUE SOURCES AND EFFICIENCIES AND OPERATIONS FOR EXACTLY.
THIS IS SOMETHING MR SHANE AND I TALK ABOUT FREQUENTLY.
THESE, THESE PROJECTIONS THAT YOU SEE RIGHT NOW, MAKE AN ASSUMPTION THAT THERE'S KIND OF A STATUS QUO STATUS, QUOTA, REVENUE STATUS, QUOTA SPENDING TRENDS.
UH, THIS HELPS US KNOW THAT OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AS STAFF, WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT SHARPENING THE PENCIL.
WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT HOW TO DELIVER A SIMILAR SERVICES WITH A DIFFERENT MODEL, I. E.
CONTRACTING OUT CERTAIN THINGS.
IF THERE'S A SAVINGS, THEY'RE LOOKING AT WAYS TO MONETIZE SOME ASSETS THAT WE'VE NEVER MONETIZED IN THE PAST.
AND SO THESE ARE, THESE ARE THINGS THAT'LL BE THROWN INTO THE BASKET TO HELP LOWER THAT DEFICIT THAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU TODAY.
WELL, NOT ONLY THAT, THAT, UM, ABOUT EVERY 10 YEARS, WHICH HAS BEEN OVER 10 YEARS NOW YOU HAVE A RECESSION AND THAT DRAMATICALLY AFFECTS OUR ECONOMY AND, UM, ESPECIALLY THOSE IN THE CITY BECAUSE WE'RE SO RELIANT ON SALES TAX REVENUE.
SO WE COULD HAVE A REAL PROBLEM IN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE YEARS THAT, THAT THIS DOESN'T PROJECT BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF A LEVELING ON THIS, BUT IT COULD BE A LOT WORSE THAN WHAT YOU SUGGESTED.
I DO NOT FORECAST ANY UNFORESEEN EVENTS.
UH, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE PROJECTING OUR CURRENT YEAR ACTIVITY MOVING FORWARD STATUS QUO.
BUT THERE COULD BE A RECESSION AND THAT COULD BE A DAMAGING THING TO WHAT OUR PROJECTIONS ARE.
ANGELA, DO YOU HAVE ANY SPEAKERS FOR THIS? WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER, STEPHANIE HARPER.
HOW DID I KNOW THAT? DEFINITELY.
UM, BASICALLY I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE REQUEST OR THE OUTRAGEOUS REQUEST FOR THAT $188,000
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FOR A REPAIR ON A CAR.WE GET BY LIKE FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT CARS OR FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT TRUCKS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
THAT'S JUST, THAT'S WAY OUTRAGEOUS.
AND THAT MAY BE THE REASON WHY WE'RE IN KIND OF A FINANCIAL BIND.
WE NEED TO DECIDE WHAT'S IMPORTANT AND WHAT'S NOT IMPORTANT.
AND SINCE WE DO SPEND APPROXIMATELY THE PAST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, WE'VE SPENT APPROXIMATELY $7 MILLION ON CARS.
UM, MAYBE SOME OF THE REVENUE THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE CARS THAT WE'VE PUT OFF, WE CAN PUT THAT INTO OUR THING.
MAYBE THE TO-BE, THE TOFI IS THAT BEEN ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, GUM GETS TOWED, $40 OF THAT GOES TO, TO THE ALCOHOL HERE IN OUR CITY.
UM, MAYBE THAT COULD BE HELPING.
UM, I DEFINITELY THINK THAT WHEN IT COMES UP ON AGENDA, CAUSE IT COMES EVERY ABOUT EVERY JUNE THAT OUR EXECUTIVES GET RAISES.
I THINK WE SHOULD LIKE SKIP THAT.
I THINK THAT THEY'RE, THEY'VE BEEN GETTING RAISES EVERY SINGLE YEAR SINCE WE BECAME A CHARTER CITY, WHICH WAS TOLD TO US AS THE CITIZENS THAT IT WAS GOING TO KEEP US FROM HAVING TO GIVE RAISES.
IT WAS GOING TO KEEP OUR, YOU KNOW, HELP, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ECONOMY AND KEEP MONEY OFF OF US AND WE WERE GONNA IT WAS GOING TO BE BETTER FOR US.
WE'LL BE CAME CHARTER CITY AND EVERY SINGLE YEAR SINCE WE BECAME A CHARTER CITY, WE GIVE THOSE EXECUTIVES RAISES.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD WAY TO KEEP OUR BUDGET DOWN.
SINCE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GOOD.
IF IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE HEADING FOR SOME FINANCIAL TROUBLE, IF WE DON'T FIND WAYS TO CUT OUR BUDGET SINCE WE STILL ARE THE POOR CITY IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY, WE SHOULD BE REALLY THINKING THAT, RETHINKING THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
UM, ALSO, UM, WELL THAT WAS IT.
IF I COULD COMMENT ON THE VEHICLE REPAIR, THAT'S ACTUALLY TO OUR LADDER FIRE IN JENNER LADDER TRUCK FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
THAT'S A A 1.3 TO ONE POINT $5 MILLION TRUCK.
SO, UH, THERE'S SOME PRUDENCE IN, IN GETTING THAT REPAIRED.
WE'RE CURRENTLY WITHOUT THAT TRUCK OR YOU HAVING TO BORROW OTHER VEHICLES FROM OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
SO WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING THAT REPAIRED AS FAST AS WE CAN.
MAY I MAKE A MOTION THAT IT CLOSED THE PUBLIC HARRY
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
I COUNSEL
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO VOTE ON IT.
I THINK WE DO HAVE TO VOTE TO ACCEPT IT, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE REPORT THEN MOVE THE SECOND PLEASE.
MOTION CARRIES MY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT MARRIAGE.
JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, YOU WERE APPROVING ALL THE ACTION ITEMS THAT WERE DESCRIBED IN THE AGENDA REPORT, CORRECT? YES.
[13. ACTIVITIES REPORTS/COMMENTS OF MAYOR WELLS: SANDAG (San Diego Association of Governments); SANDAG Public Relations Selection Committee; League of California Cities, San Diego Division; Heartland Fire Training JPA – Alternate; LAFCO.]
12 IS MY ACTIVITY REPORT IS AS REPORTED.I AM 13 IS THE LEGISLATIVE REPORT.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF SLATE OF UPDATES TO SHARE WITH YOU TODAY.
AB THREE 77 FROM GARCIA OFFICER AUTHORIZE THE CITY, COUNTY OR BOTH TO PERMIT MICRO ENTERPRISE HOME KITCHEN OPERATIONS.
AB THREE 77 WILL REQUIRE NEW PERMITS, INSPECTIONS, AND REPORTING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE ENFORCEMENT AGENCY AND IMPOSES AND YOU UNFUNDED STATE MANDATE.
LOCAL PROGRAM AB THREE SEVEN SEVEN WOULD ALLOW THE OPERATION OF MICRO ENTERPRISE KITCHENS AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND MAY RAISE CONCERNS RELATIVE TO THE TRASH, PARKING NOISE, WASTEWATER DISPOSAL OF FATS, OILS AND GREASE, WATER SOURCES, FIRE HAZARD AMONG OTHER THINGS.
THE BILL HAS BEEN AMENDED ONCE AND IS CURRENTLY WITH THE ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE ON HEALTH.
THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES HAS A WATCH ADVISORY ON THIS BILL.
SOME CITIES HAVE BEGUN SENDING LETTERS OF OPPOSITION AND WE'LL JUST WATCH THIS AND SEE HOW IT GOES.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEND A LETTER OF OPPOSITION AT THIS POINT, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT.
I THINK WE WILL EVENTUALLY BE DOING THAT.
WELL, LET'S SEE HOW MANY MORE AMENDMENTS THEY MAKE TO IT.
THEY COULD CHANGE IT AND CHANGE IT AND CHANGE IT.
WE WILL BRING IT BACK IF YOU KEEP AN EYE ON IT, BUT IT'S NOT TO THE OTHERS.
OKAY, THEN, WELL, I'LL LEAVE THAT OFF THE TABLE.
SB FIVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT INVESTMENT PROGRAM.
EXISTING LAW REQUIRES AN ANNUAL RE ALLOCATION OF PROPERTY TAX REVENUE FROM LOCAL AGENCIES IN EACH COUNTY TO THE EDUCATIONAL REVENUE AMENDMENT FUND, THAT'S E R A F THAT COUNTY FOR ALLOCATIONS TO SPECIFY AN EDUCATIONAL ENTITIES.
THIS BILL WOULD ESTABLISH IN STATE GOVERNMENT THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT INVESTMENT PROGRAM, WHICH WOULD BE ADMINISTERED BY THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT INVESTMENT COMMITTEE.
THE BILL WOULD AUTHORIZE A CITY, COUNTY,
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CITY AND COUNTY JOINT POWERS AGENCIES, ENHANCED INFRASTRUCTURE FINANCING, DISTRICT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AUTHORITY, COMMUNITY COMMUNITY, REVITALIZATION OF INVESTMENT AUTHORITY, TRANSIT VILLAGE DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, OR A COMBINATION OF THOSE ENTITIES TO APPLY TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT INVESTMENT COMMITTEE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM.IT WOULD AUTHORIZE THE COMMITTEE TO APPROVE OR DENY PLANS FOR PROJECTS MEETING SPECIFIC CRITERIA.
THIS POOL CONTAINS OTHER RELATED PROVISIONS AND OTHER EXISTING LAWS.
THE LEAVE CALIFORNIA CITIES HAS A SUPPORT LETTER POSITION ON THIS BILL.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR AND BRING YOU MORE UPDATES AS THIS MOVES THIS WAY THROUGH THE PROCESS.
UH, THAT PRESENTS TWO ACTIVITIES
[14. ACTIVITIES REPORTS/COMMENTS OF COUNCILMEMBERS:]
OF COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCIL MEMBER GARY KENDRICK AS REPORTED COUNCIL MEMBER MACOLA AS REPORTED COUNCIL DEPUTY MAYOR STEVE GOBLE WAS REPORTING ITEM 18 IS A JOINT[18. Proposal for Rotational Night Shelters That the City Council directs City staff to coordinate meetings among or with various stakeholders and return with a recommendation regarding rotational night shelters on or before the July 9, 2019 scheduled City Council meeting.]
COUNSELOR REPORT.MR GOBLE, WILL YOU PLEASE SHARE WITH US REGARDING THE PROPOSAL FOR ROTATIONAL NIGHT SHELTERS? YES.
I THINK ONE THING OUT OF THE TOWN HALL MEETING IN JANUARY WAS THE PEOPLE OF ALCOHOL AND SAYING, KEEP TRYING, KEEP TRYING.
IT'S STILL, UH, AN ISSUE THAT AFFECTS RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES IN THE CITY OF EL CAHONE.
SO, UH, THIS IS A TOPIC WHICH I THINK HAS SOME POTENTIAL.
WHAT I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL TO DO IS TO RECOMMEND STAFF, UH, GATHER THE STAKEHOLDERS AND HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THIS, UH, PROPOSAL FOR ROTATIONAL NIGHT SHELTERS.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT ROTATIONAL MEANS FOR A TEMPORARY TIME PERIOD BEFORE IT MOVES TO THE NEXT LOCATION? SO THEY'RE NOT PERMANENT, UH, Y ROTATIONAL FROM OUR HISTORY.
WE REMEMBER SEMI-PERMANENT SHELTERS RESULTED IN MORE SIGNIFICANT PROBLEMS. THE ST ALBANS PROPERTY, UH, THE TENT THAT USED TO BE, I THINK WHERE THE ANIMAL SHELTER IS NOW, AND FAIRNESS, DIFFERENT LOCALES IN THE CITY.
SHARON'S SOLUTION FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME BEFORE IT ROTATES TO THE NEXT PLACE.
NIGHT MEANING, UH, IT OPENS IN THE EVENING AT SOME POINT TO BE DETERMINED AND CLOSES IN THE MORNING AT SOME POINT TO BE DETERMINED, UH, Y NIGHT.
SO BECAUSE IF IT IS AT A FACILITY THAT HAS DAY USED, FOR INSTANCE, A, UH, PRESCHOOL OR A RECREATION OR A DAYCARE, ADULT DAYCARE, SOME PUBLIC USE COMMERCE, UH, THIS DOES ALLOW THAT PROPERTY TO USE THAT DURING ITS DAYTIME AND SHELTER WOULD BE BETTER CONDITIONS THAN WHAT ARE CURRENTLY EXPERIENCED ON THE STREETS.
SO THAT'S ROTATIONAL NIGHTS SHELTERS.
BUT WHY? WELL, THIS COULD BE A POTENTIAL SOLUTION FOR THOSE CURRENTLY CREATING A CABINETS ON THE STREETS.
IT COULD BE A POTENTIAL SOLUTION TO AVOID A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS.
WE KNOW THE AMOUNT OF TRASH THAT HAS BEEN GATHERED OFF OF THE STREETS, INCLUDING NEEDLES AND, UH, OTHER THINGS THAT COULD BE A PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS.
THIS COULD BE A POTENTIAL SOLUTION WHICH MIGHT BE SUPPORTED BY NEIGHBORHOODS AND BUSINESSES.
IT COULD BE A POTENTIAL SOLUTION WHICH PARTNERS SERVICE PROVIDERS WITH RESOURCES THAT THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE.
AND IT IS A SOLUTION THAT COULD BE LIKE BY THE COURTS.
THE NINTH CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS HAS ALREADY WEIGHED IN ON THIS AND THE CITY OF BOISE AND THEY, UH, HAD SOME STRONG WORDS FOR THE CITY OF BOISE.
IF YOU DON'T OFFER SOMEBODY IN OPTION A, THEN YOU HAVE LIMITED RIGHTS.
BUT IF YOU OFFER THEM AN OPTION AND THEY SAY NO, OR THERE'S SOME ACCOUNTABILITY TO THAT.
HOW LONG? I'M SAYING A TEST OF NO LESS THAN 30 DAYS AND NO MORE THAN 90 DAYS.
I'M NOT SAYING A PERMANENT PROGRAM.
I'M SAYING LET'S TRY SOMETHING AND LET'S STOP.
LET'S HEAR FROM EVERYBODY WHAT WORKED, WHAT DIDN'T WORK.
SHOULD WE JUST STOP THIS COMPLETELY OR SHOULD WE MODIFY IT AND GO ON A, IT COULD BE EXTENDED BEYOND 90 DAYS.
IF EVERYBODY SAYS, YEAH, I THINK WE HAVE SOMETHING HERE.
WHAT ARE SOME ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE RESOLVED? LOTS OF QUESTIONS THAT STAKEHOLDERS NEED TO WEIGH IN ON OPERATIONAL.
WHAT'S THE CRITERIA AND APPROVAL PROCESS FOR HOSTING? ONE.
WHERE WILL THEY BE IN THE CITY? WILL THEY BE INDOORS, OUTDOORS, OR BOTH? WE'VE HEARD ABOUT BEDBUGS AND AND UH, THINGS THAT ARE BROUGHT, UH, THAT MIGHT BE A REASON WHY SOMEPLACE MIGHT BE OUTDOORS.
OTHER SITUATIONS MIGHT BE INDOORS.
HOW MANY SPACES WOULD BE AVAILABLE AT ONE OF THESE SHELTERS? HOW WOULD PEOPLE GET THERE? WHAT HAPPENS IF THE SHELTER FILLS UP? WHAT ARE THE PROCEDURES FOR INTAKE AND EXIT? LOT OF QUESTIONS TO BE ASKED AND ANSWERED ON THIS.
WHAT AND HOW MANY POSSESSIONS WILL BE ALLOWED AT THE SHELTER? UH, WHAT KIND OF RESOURCES WILL BE ON SITE? WILL THEY HAVE BEDDING, HYGIENE, PROGRAMS, SERVICES, FOOD? WILL THERE BE RULES? WOULD SECURITY BE REQUIRED? WOULD THERE BE RESTRICTIONS OUTSIDE OF OPERATING HOURS SUCH AS, UH,
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YOU HAVE TO STAY AWAY AT LEAST 500 FEET FROM THE SITE TO ALLOW THAT SITE TO BE USED FOR WHATEVER TODAY USES.THERE ARE FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS.
HOW MUCH WOULD THIS COST? WHO WILL PAY FOR WHAT? ARE THERE ANY LIABILITIES WHICH EXIST? ARE THERE ANY CONTRACTS REQUIRED, ANY PERMITS REQUIRED? HOW WOULD AVAILABILITY BE COMMUNICATED AND OFFERED TO SOMEBODY? WHAT IF SOMEBODY SAYS, NO, I DON'T WANT TO GO? WOULD THIS BECOME A MAGNET FOR PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF OKLAHOMA TO COME INTO ELKA HOME? WHAT ARE EXPECTATIONS? HOW MANY PEOPLE CURRENTLY LIVING ON THE STREETS WILL SAY, YES, WE KNOW TODAY PEOPLE ARE LIVING ON THE STREETS AND TURNING DOWN OUR HOUSING NAVIGATOR, TURNING DOWN THE SERVICES AT ECE, TLC, OR SOME, FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY CHOOSE.
BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE TURNING DOWN.
HOW MANY OF THESE PEOPLE, IF THEY'RE OFFERED NIGHT SHELTER, WOULD ALSO SAY, NO, I DON'T WANT TO GO.
I JUST WANT TO STAY ON THE STREETS.
AND WHAT IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THAT DECISION? SO HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD WE EXPECT LIVING ON THE STREETS TO SAY, YES, I'LL GO.
SO THIS IS REALLY A COLLABORATION.
THE COLLABORATION IS ACTIVE WORKING TOGETHER AGAIN AND AGAIN.
YOU KNOW, IN OUR SOCIETY WE READ IN THE PAPERS ABOUT NATIONAL AND STATE LEGISLATURE IS JUST HAVING EXTREME RHETORIC THAT REALLY DOESN'T SEEM TO WANT TO GET PEOPLE TO THE TABLE TO DISCUSS ISSUES AND MAKE COMPROMISES AND DECIDE IF SOMETHING'S WORTH IT.
THIS IS ONE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY TO GET TOGETHER AND HAVE THOSE KINDS OF DISCUSSIONS FOR SOLUTIONS.
SO THE CITY ADMINISTRATION, UH, IS A STAKEHOLDER.
THE PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT IS A STAKEHOLDER, PRIVATE AND SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES, COUNTY SOCIAL SERVANTS, AGENCIES.
THEY HAVE MONEY AND PROGRAMS THAT THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE A POTENTIAL SITE.
PROVIDERS MIGHT WANT TO KNOW OR, OR HAVE A SAY WHAT'S GOING ON.
CERTAINLY THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES, UH, I'LL PROBABLY A TOWN HALL AND INVITE THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES TO COME GIVE THEIR POINT OF VIEW ON THIS THING.
AND I THINK FINALLY I HAVE THESE COUNTY HOMELESS TASK FORCE, CERTAINLY A BODY OF EXPERTISE, INCLUDING THOSE WHO ARE HOMELESS.
UH, THESE ARE ALL PEOPLE WHO HAVE A VOICE THAT I THINK COULD COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.
UH, AND SO THE GOAL IS A RECOMMENDATION FOR A GO, NO GO DECISION TO TEST THIS.
BY JULY 9TH, AND THAT IS ABOUT 90 DAYS AWAY.
AND THAT'S A GO-NO-GO WHETHER WE SHOULD DO A 30 TO 90 DAY TEST.
SO REALLY WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS, UH, THE COUNCIL TO DIRECT STAFF TO COORDINATE THESE DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN ALL THESE STAKEHOLDERS AND COME BACK IN 90 DAYS AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE THINK.
SHOULD WE GO? SHOULD WE NOT GO? HEY STEVE.
UM, LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANY, UH, GENDER, UH, SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS ITEM.
THE FIRST ONE IS ANNA MARIE BACONE SNYDER.
HI CITY COUNCILMAN STAFF AND THE PUBLIC.
UM, I AM THE PROJECT DIRECTOR FOR THE EAST COUNTY HOMELESS TASK FORCE AND I'M HERE WITH REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE TASK FORCE, FROM THE OUTREACH SOLUTION GROUP AND FOR THE SHELTER AND HOUSING SOLUTION GROUP.
AND IF YOU WOULD GIVE ME PERMISSION, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THEM AND ASK THEM TO STAND.
SO WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE REGIONAL TASK FORCE ON HOMELESSNESS.
WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM COUNTY MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES AND HSA.
WE HAVE MEMBERS FROM THE HOMELESS OUTREACH COMMITTEE.
WE HAVE PROVIDERS LIKE EASTERN LIGHTS.
THEY ARE A PROJECT OF URBAN STREET ANGELS WHO WORK WITH TRANSITIONAL AGE YOUTH, SHORT TERM AND BRIDGE HOUSING PROGRAMS AND OVERNIGHT SHELTER PROGRAMS. CRISIS HOUSES HERE.
WHO'S PART OF THE COMMITTEE? EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER.
THERE'S RESIDENTS OF LAKESIDE HERE, FAITH COMMUNITIES LIKE THE ROCK AND WELCOME CHURCH.
DID I FORGET ANYBODY? OH, WELL DONE.
SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING AS YOU KNOW, FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS ON SHELTER AND HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AND IDEAS AND FORTHCOMING WILL BE A REPORT OF IDEAS, UH, INNOVATIVE IDEAS TO UM, FOR CITIES AND THE REGION TO CONSIDER.
IN THE MEANTIME, UH, WE'RE HERE AS STAKEHOLDERS, POTENTIAL PARTNERS AND COLLABORATORS, UH, IN SUPPORT OF DIALOGUE AND EXPLORATION OF INCREASING LOW BARRIER SHELTER BEDS IN THE EAST REGION AND ALCOHOL.
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MEETING FROM A MEETING WITH SHARP HEALTHCARE SYSTEM AND GO SMART HOSPITAL.THEY ARE ALSO, UM, AND, AND VERY MUCH NATIVE SHELTER BEDS HERE IN THE EAST REGION FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT THEY NEED TO DISCHARGE AND ARE NOT YET READY TO GO, UM, TO THE NEXT LEVEL OF HOUSING OR SHELTER.
SO, UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, TO TALK ABOUT SOLUTIONS FOR SHELTERING IN THE EAST REGION.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, BUT ANYBODY, SO
I SPENT THE LAST 30 YEARS OF MY LIFE WORKING IN MENTAL HEALTH AND IN HOSPITALS.
SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DISCHARGE SOMEBODY FROM A HOSPITAL, UM, THEY MAY BE PSYCHOTIC, THEY MAY HAVE OPEN SORES, THEY MAY HAVE COMPLICATED MEDICAL PROBLEMS OR MEDICAL PROBLEMS THAT DON'T SEEM PARTICULARLY COMPLICATED BUT THEN BECOME EXTREMELY COMPLICATED.
THEY NEED TO HAVE THOSE, YOU KNOW, THAT MEDICATION COORDINATE WITH THE PHARMACY.
AND UH, YOU KNOW, THEY OFTENTIMES SHOW UP WITHOUT THEIR MEDS AND THEY'RE HAVE ADDICTION ISSUES.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S NOT TOO COMPLICATED FOR, UM, AN EXISTING SHELTER THAT DOES THIS ALL THE TIME, BUT IN A ROTATIONAL BASIS.
AM I'M A LITTLE WORRIED THAT SOMEBODY WHO GETS INVOLVED IN THIS MAY GET OVERWHELMED BY THE KIND OF PEOPLE THAT SHOW UP AND THE PROBLEMS OF THESE FOLKS HAVE.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? I THINK IT'S A HUGE CONSIDERATION.
I THINK IT'S BROUGHT UP A LOT, UH, THE SOMETIMES, UM, CO-OCCURRING CONDITIONS WITH HOMELESSNESS.
I THINK THAT MR GOEBBELS PRESENTATION ADDRESSES THOSE QUESTIONS ADEQUATELY, AT LEAST THAT THEY CAN BE ADDRESSED IN CREATING SOME TYPE OF A PROGRAM.
I ALSO HAVE EXPERIENCED IN WORKING WITH THE EAST COUNTY HOMELESS TASK FORCE COLLABORATORS OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS.
WE HAVE A LOT OF PROFESSIONALS AT OUR BECK AND CALL IF YOU GO TO ASSIST US WITH CREATING PROGRAMS THAT CAN BE SUCCESSFUL.
SO, UM, WHILE I BELIEVE IT'S A LARGE CONCERN, UH, THE SAFETY OF EVERYBODY, INCLUDING THE HOMELESS RESIDENTS AND ANY, ANY SHELTER VOLUNTEERS, I DO BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH PROFESSIONALS IN AND AROUND US TO SUPPORT ANY PROGRAM THAT WE WOULD PUT TOGETHER.
SO I'M FORESEEING OUR ROTATIONAL PROGRAM THAT HAS A PRE EXTENSIVE INTAKE PROCESS THAT ASKS A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
IT HAS A LOT OF, UH, I'M SORRY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVE TO SAY, I'M SORRY YOU DON'T QUALIFY FOR THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE OF YOUR WHEELCHAIR BECAUSE YOU HAVE YOUR ADIMA OR YOUR VARIOUS, BECAUSE OF YOUR SCABIES, BECAUSE OF ALL THESE THINGS I WOULD THINK WOULD DISQUALIFY IT FOR THEM.
YOU SEE THAT AS THE WAY THAT THIS WOULD WORK? OR DO YOU SEE THAT AS A, WE BRING EVERYBODY IN AND THEN WE ADDRESS THEIR PROBLEMS BY BRINGING IN PROFESSIONALS TO DEAL WITH THAT? I THINK MR MAYOR, WHAT I'VE LEARNED ALSO IN WORKING WITH THE TASK FORCE, UH, IS THAT, UH, EACH CASE NEEDS TO BE IDENTIFIED, UH, AS AN INDIVIDUAL, AS A PERSON.
UH, SO WHEN THOSE PEOPLE ARE, ARE, UM, ARE MET AND AS POTENTIALS FOR THIS PROGRAM, I THINK ALL OF THOSE SCENARIOS, UH, NEED TO BE ADDRESSED INDIVIDUALLY.
BUT I THINK IN ADVANCE OF THAT, AGAIN, UH, THE PROFESSIONALS THAT HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME KNOW THAT THOSE SITUATIONS WILL BE COMING UP AND CAN BUILD THAT INTO THE PROGRAM DESIGN.
SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT YOU'D BE COMFORTABLE WITH HAVING A PROGRAM DESIGN THAT WOULD EXCLUDE PEOPLE THAT WOULDN'T BE APPROPRIATE FOR A TRANSITIONAL AND ROTATIONAL SHELTER.
I THINK A ROTATIONAL NIGHT SHELTER HAS A VERY, UM, SPECIFIC, IT COULD CATER TO A VERY SPECIFIC, UH, POPULATION OF PERSONS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
SO WHO WOULD WRITE THAT PROTOCOL? I WOULD SAY IT WOULD BE IN CON AND COMBINING WITH THE CITY STAFF WHO IS EXPLORING IT.
I WOULD SAY WE WOULD TAP INTO THE PROFESSIONALS THAT DO THIS ALL THE TIME.
I MEAN, THERE ARE PEOPLE AVAILABLE TO US THAT DO THIS ALL THE TIME.
STEVE, IS THAT KIND OF HOW YOU SEE IT TO A PROTOCOL THAT WILL BE WRITTEN? YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE POINT IS, LET'S START TALKING ABOUT IT.
SO IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE SOLVED TODAY, BUT I THINK THE PUBLIC IS EXPECTING US TO HAVE MORE CONVERSATIONS TO LEAD TOWARDS A SOLUTION.
MR MAYOR, I'VE BEEN CALLED A DO GOODER BEFORE AND I ASSURE YOU, WHILE I DO WANT TO DO GOOD, I AM VERY INTERESTED IN, UM, DEPENDING
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ON THE PROFESSIONALS WHO DO THIS ALL OF ALL OF THE TIME TO ASSIST IN ANY PROJECT THAT CONSIDERS, UH, GIVING HOUSING TO PEOPLE.I THINK YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY TO BE CALLED A DO GOOD OR I THINK THAT'S A GOOD, A GOOD PHRASE.
LET ME SEE AT LEAST IF THERE'S ANY MORE QUESTIONS, MORE QUESTIONS OR WE CAN TRY IT OUT.
OUR LAST SPEAKER IS LINDSEY DOMINGAS SHOULDN'T MAKE US WELCOME.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE OFFICIAL CITATIONS ARE.
UM, I COME IN SUPPORT SUPPORTIVE ANNA MARIE, BUT ALSO AS A STAND ALONE WHERE THE ALCOHOL PROJECTS, URBAN STREET ANGELS.
UH, WE'VE BEEN IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR A YEAR AND A HALF NOW.
UH, WE CAME IN A YEAR AND A HALF INTO THE EXISTENCE OF URBAN STREET ANGELS, WHICH IS A PROGRAM THAT EXISTS NOW.
DOWNTOWN STARTED IN NORTH PARK, BUT THEY HOUSE TRANSITIONAL AGE YOUTH WHO ARE HOMELESS.
UH, THEY HAVE 25 TO 35 BEDS IN NORTH PARK.
THEY ALSO HAVE A PERMANENT FACILITY SHARING, FATHER JOE'S VILLAGE BUILDING DOWNTOWN WHERE THEY TAKE IN YOUTH FROM 18 TO 25 YEARS OLD.
UM, SO WE STARTED WITH THEM A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
WE'VE BEEN HERE NOW FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR, UH, AND WE OPERATE JUST IN A LOCAL CHURCH DOWN THE STREET ON WASHINGTON AND HAMISH.
AH, UM, CURRENTLY WE, OR LAST WEEK WE'VE BEEN OPERATING ONE NIGHT A WEEK, SO WE'RE NOT ON THIS 30TH AND 90 DAY TEST THAT THAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
UH, BUT WE CAN SPEAK FROM A YEAR'S WORTH OF EXPERIENCE OF TAKING IN TRANSITIONAL AGE, HOMELESS YOUTH, UM, AND SOME OF THE CHALLENGES AND BUDGETARY THINGS THAT COME WITH IT.
UH, WE DO HAVE A VAN THAT WE ARE ABLE TO TRANSPORT.
LAST WEEK, WE TRANSPORTED FIVE, UH, YOUNG MEN FROM DOWNTOWN HERE TO ELKO HOME THAT ALSO ATTEND THE TUESDAY NIGHT SHELTER THAT URBAN STREET ANGELS PUTS ON IN NORTH PARK.
UM, WE PROVIDE 25, UH, COX BLANKETS, PILLOWS, UH, UH, THE WORD IS ESCAPING ME, TOOTHBRUSH, TOOTHPASTE, UH, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
UM, WE ALSO PROVIDE FOOD AND MOST OF IT HAS BEEN PAID FOR BY DONATIONS AND FUNDRAISERS.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE SPEAKING TO COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS OR OTHER PARTNERSHIPS LIKE THINK DIGNITY, WHO PROVIDES SHOWERS.
UH, THEY'VE ALSO COME TO OUR FACILITY TO HELP PROVIDE SHOWERS AS WELL.
AND A LOT OF THAT HAS BEEN DONE FROM A GROUP OF 15 TO 20 YOUNG PROFESSIONALS THAT LIVE HERE IN EL CAHONE, UM, AND THE SURROUNDING EAST COUNTY COMMUNITY FOR THE PAST YEAR.
UH, WE HAVE SOCKS THAT WE HAND OUT TWICE A WEEK AND JUST INVITE THOSE THAT ARE YOUNGER TO THE SHELTER.
UM, SO ANYWAY, WE'RE TOLD A SUPPORT OF THE EXPLORATION AND DISCUSSION OF SOLUTIONS LIKE THIS AND WE JUST WANTED IT TO BE HERE.
LET ME SEE ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS? BOB, YOU JUST WORK WITH YOUNG PEOPLE? YES.
HOW ABOUT THE OLD PEOPLE? UH, SO WE'RE FOCUSED SO, AND KIND OF A COMMENT TOO OR WHAT SOME IN RESPONSE TO A COMMENT MADE EARLIER ABOUT PREVENTING HOMELESSNESS, UH, AND SPEAKING TO A PROFESSIONAL AT HOMESTART THEY SAID THE ONLY INDICATOR FROM ALL THEIR DATA COLLECTED OF PREDICTING HOMELESSNESS IS WHETHER OR NOT THEY'VE BEEN HOMELESS BEFORE.
AND SO OUR HOPE IS TO, TO MEET THE NEED BEFORE THEY GET INTO A POSITION OF HOMELESSNESS.
AND WE'RE THINKING THAT GETTING THEM AT A YOUNGER AGE WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT.
YOU MENTIONED PICKING UP PEOPLE IN DOWNTOWN SAN DIEGO AND BRINGING THEM EL CAHONE.
SO CAN YOU IMAGINE WHY THAT MIGHT BE? NOT EXCITING TO ME.
SO TRANSITIONAL AGE YOUTH, SAN DIEGO, THE SERVICE DOWNTOWN.
UM, THEY CALLED US LAST WEEK AND SAID, HEY, WE HAVE FIVE THAT CURRENTLY ATTEND THE NORTH PARK SHELTER.
COULD THEY ATTEND YOURS AS WELL? UM, WHAT WE HAVE FOUND IS THAT THERE ARE ACTUALLY A LOT OF OUR
UM, SO OUR HOPE IS TO DRAW SOME OF THEM BACK AS THE ALCOHOL COMMUNITY BECOMES JUST MORE AVAILABLE TO THAT POPULATION.
UM, BUT WE DO TRANSPORT THEM BACK IN THE MORNING SO THEY SLEEP THERE.
UH, WE FEED THEM DINNER, SAFE PLACE TO SLEEP AND BREAKFAST, AND THEN WE TRANSPORT THEM BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL LOCATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR COMING AND THANKS FOR ALL THE GOOD WORK YOU'RE DOING.
AND WE DON'T HAVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ONE.
UM, SO STEVE, WHAT IS THE ASK? THE ASK IS TO HAVE CITY STAFF COORDINATE DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN THE STAKEHOLDERS LISTED.
LET'S SEE IF I CAN GO BACK TO THAT ONE.
COORDINATE THE DISCUSSIONS AS THEY SEE FIT.
THEY COULD BE INVOLVED IN THE DISCUSSION, THEY COULD JUST ENSURE THAT THIS DISCUSSION HAPPENS AND THEN REPORT BACK TO THE CITY STAFF.
W AT WHAT POINT WOULD WE BE DECIDING
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TO AUTHORIZE THIS? SO ON JULY 9TH, WE'D HEAR BACK HOPEFULLY FROM ALL THESE STAKEHOLDERS AND FRANKLY IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE IN SUMMIT OR ROTATIONAL NIGHT SHELTER.WHAT IF THIS GROUP COMES UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT IS AN OFFSHOOT OF THAT? BUT BECAUSE WE HAD THE DISCUSSION, WE CAME TO A SOLUTION, WELL, EXCELLENT.
I CAN'T SEE WHY WE'D EVER BE OPPOSED TO EXPLORING NEW OPPORTUNITIES.
I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF EXPERTS IN THIS FIELD.
THERE'S A LOT OF EXPERTS IN THIS ROOM.
WHY NOT GATHER THEM AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHAT THEY KNOW? WE CAN'T DO IT ALL OURSELVES.
I THINK THE PUBLIC IS ASKING US, GATHER EVERYBODY AND, AND EXTRACT THE KNOWLEDGE FROM ALL THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY KNOWLEDGEABLE RIGHT BEFORE STEVE'S MAKES A EMOTION.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS AND I'LL LEAVE IT TO YOU, STEVE.
I WILL MAKE A MOTION THAT THE, UH, THE COUNCIL DIRECT CITY STAFF TO COORDINATE THESE MEETINGS WITH THE VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS AND RETURN A RECOMMENDATION, UH, BY JULY 9TH.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
AND, UH, IT'S ALL YOU'VE ALL THANK YOU FOR COMING AND THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD WORK YOU'RE DOING OUT THERE.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR DEDICATION AND AS A, AS A REWARD, YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY FOR THE REST OF IT, YOU CAN GET UP AND GO.
I LOVE MY TEEN IS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY AND NO ACTION IS NEEDED.
UM, THERE ARE NO FIRST READINGS ON TODAY'S OF ORDINANCES ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
WE HAVE NO SECOND READINGS OF ORDINANCES TODAY AND THAT
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BRINGS US TO CLOSE SESSION.UH, OUR CITY ATTORNEY WOULD PLEASE, WOULD YOU PLEASE RECITE THE TITLE AND LEAD US INTO THE CLOSED SESSION.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING IN CLOSED SESSION ON TWO ITEMS OF EXISTING LITIGATION TO CONFER WITH ITS LEGAL COUNSEL.
UH, THESE ARE, UH, CLOSED SESSIONS PURSUANT TO PARAGRAPH ONE OF SUBDIVISION D OF GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION FIVE, FOUR NINE FIVE, 6.9.
THE NAMES OF THE TWO CASES ARE THE FIRST ALCOHOL POLICE OFFICER'S ASSOCIATION VERSUS CITY OF ALCOHOL.
AND THE SECOND ONE IS MIKE MURPHY AND JOSHUA
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOST OF THEM DO IT DURING THE CLOSED SESSION.
SECOND, MOVE THE SECOND AND PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
THIS JOB WILL BE A CLOSED SESSION FOR A SHORT PERIOD AND THEN WE'LL BE BACK TO FINISH THE MEETING.
A CITY COUNCIL MET IN CLOSED SESSION ON TWO ITEMS AS DESCRIBED PRIOR TO GOING TO CLOSE SESSION ON THE FIRST ITEM.
UH, ITEM NUMBER, I'M NUMBER 20.
THE CITY COUNCIL GAVE DIRECTION TO ITS LEGAL COUNSEL AND AN ITEM NUMBER 21 THE CITY COUNCIL GAVE DIRECTION TO ITS LEGAL COUNSEL.
ALL RIGHT, THIS BRINGS US TO A GERMAN, THE ADJOURN RAILROAD JOINT MEETING OF THE ALCOHOLIC CITY COUNCIL, OKLAHOMA HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE ALCOHOL REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY HELD THIS 26TH DAY OF MARCH, 2019 IS A GERM UNTIL TUESDAY, APRIL 9TH, 2019 AT 3:00 PM THANK YOU.