Jul 11, 2023 City Council Meeting 3pm

ORDERS OF ADJOURNMENT OF THE JUNE 27TH, 2023 MEETING AND THE AGENDA OF THE JULY 11TH, 2023 MEETING IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW, CITY COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY POLICY.

MICHELLE.

YOU GOT YOUR HAIRCUT? WOW, YOU GOT A LOT OF IT? CUT.

THE CITY CLERK POSTED

[ POSTINGS: The City Clerk posted Orders of Adjournment of the June 27, 2023, Meeting and the Agenda of the July 11, 2023, Meeting in accordance to State Law and City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the Redevelopment Agency Policy.]

WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR PARKS

[ PRESENTATIONS: Proclamation: Parks and Recreation Month]

AND RECREATION MONTH, WHICH I WILL READ, BUT FIRST THE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

MR. FRANK CARSON, WOULD YOU COME UP AND TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS? THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

UH, JULY.

EVERY YEAR IS RECOGNIZED AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH.

UH, THIS YEAR THE NATIONAL THEME IS, IT'S COMING.

THERE WE GO.

IT'S WHERE COMMUNITY GROWS.

UH, THIS IS THE NATIONAL RECREATION PARK ASSOCIATION'S THEME THIS YEAR.

UH, AND WE, WE LIKE TO TRY TO BE ALIGNED WITH WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT AS THE BRAND FOR THAT YEAR.

UH, JUST GIVE YOU A QUICK RECAP OF EL EL CAJON PARKS AND RECREATION.

WE HAVE OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND VISITORS EVERY MONTH IN OUR PARKS.

THERE ARE 18 PARKS HERE IN EL CAJON, UH, 120 ACRES OF MAINTAINED PARKLAND, WHICH MAKES IT ABOUT 1.2 ACRES OF PARKLAND PER 1000 RESIDENTS.

UH, NOW THAT MAY SEEM LIKE A STYRENE NUMBER.

WE HAVE SOME NEIGHBORS THAT LIKE TO SAY THAT THEY HAVE 10 ACRES OF PARKLAND PER 1000 RESIDENTS.

UH, AND A NATIONAL AVERAGE IS ACTUALLY 3000 ACRES OF PARKLAND PER 1000 RESIDENTS.

IF YOU'VE BEEN AROUND EL CAJON, YOU'VE NOTICED THAT WE'RE ABOUT 99% CAPACITY IN TERMS OF BUILT OUT.

SO I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING AND WHAT WE ARE DOING TO TRY TO MITIGATE THAT.

UH, AS A NATIONAL STANDARD, WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWICE THE AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY CENTERS.

UM, AND THE CITY COUNCIL IN THE 1960S IDENTIFIED THAT AS, OKAY, WE MAY BE UNDER PARKED, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A COMMUNITY CENTER THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND THAT'S WHY YOU SEE US UNUSUALLY, UH, TO HAVE SO MANY COMMUNITY CENTERS COMPARED TO ALMOST ALL OF OUR NEIGHBORS.

WE PER CAPITA, HAVE TWICE THE AMOUNT.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S A, A, A A, A BIG, I SAY FEATHER IN OUR CAP HERE IN, IN THE CITY.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE ONE COMMUNITY POOL BASED UP IN THE FLETCHER HILLS AREA.

A LOT OF PEOPLE LIKE TO RECOGNIZE PARKS AND RECREATION FOR SPECIAL EVENTS.

UH, BUT THESE ARE TRULY CITY SERVICES.

THIS IS CITYWIDE.

SO WE NEED POLICE, FIRE, PUBLIC WORKS, FINANCE, CITY CLERK'S, OFFICE, EVERYBODY TO HELP OUT WITH OUR, OUR SPECIAL EVENTS.

UH, WE MAY HAVE SOME COMPONENTS WHERE WE HELP FACILITATE THAT, BUT IT, IT TRULY IS A CITYWIDE S EVENT.

SO WE CAN'T LIKE, SAY THIS IS LIKE WHAT OUR CORE IS.

REALLY WHAT OUR CORE IS IS A LOT OF WHAT YOU SEE UP HERE ON THE SCREEN.

SO DANCE TUMBLING, CHEER, GYMNASTICS, PRESCHOOL ARTS AND CRAFTS, UH, YOUTH SPORTS, ACTIVE ADULTS, AGING SERVICES, TEEN PROGRAMS, SWIM LESSONS.

I, I COULDN'T LIST ALL OF 'EM.

SO LIKE I FORGOT TO MENTION ON THEIR DAY CAMPS, ALSO SKATE AND SCOOTER PROGRAMS. I DID WANNA MAKE SURE I HIGHLIGHTED IN READ DIVERSIONARY SERVICES.

SO WHAT PARKS AND RECREATION OFFER IN COMMUNITIES IS YOUR CRITICAL HOURS OF SERVICE, WHICH IS USUALLY ABOUT THREE TO 7:00 PM WHERE WE CONNECT THE COMMUNITY TO OUR REC CENTERS AND WE PROVIDE SOME TYPE OF DIVERSIONARY ACTIVITY OR SOME TYPE OF SERVICE TO WHERE YOUTH ACTUALLY ARE CONNECTED WITHIN COMMUNITY.

THEY HAVE GREATER OWNERSHIP IN THE COMMUNITY IF THEY HAVE THAT CONNECTION WHERE THEY'RE NOT SELF-GUIDED USERS, SO TO SPEAK.

ONE THING YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE OF, AND I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS YEAR, IS THAT YOUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT IS ALSO YOUR EMERGENCY CARE INSURE SHELTER SERVICES.

SO SHOULD WE HAVE A WILDFIRE OR AN EARTHQUAKE, YOUR PARKS AND RECREATION STAFF ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR KAREN SHELTER IN AN EMERGENCY LIKE THAT.

UH, THE LEFT HAND SIDE RIGHT THERE, THAT'S A TWEET FROM A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

LAST, UH, AND, AND THAT AUGUST OF THAT YEAR, WE PUT ON A LARGER SCALE EVACUATION SHELTER TRAINING THROUGH HEARTLAND FIRE AND SOME OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS FOR OUR STAFF.

WHAT WE'LL BE DOING THIS AUGUST IS ACTUALLY TARGETING EARTHQUAKE EVACUATION SHELTER.

AND SO

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WE'RE GONNA NOT, WE'RE GONNA TARGET THAT.

WE CAN'T COMMUNICATE VIA CELL PHONE.

WE'RE GONNA HAVE HAMMER RADIOS OR AMATEUR RADIOS TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER AND GET THAT TYPE OF PRACTICE.

SO WE'RE MORE THINKING OF WORST CASE SCENARIO IN, IN TERMS OF AN EARTHQUAKE.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO PREPARE FOR THAT WE'VE SPENT SO MUCH TIME PREPARING FOR WILDFIRES THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT OTHER NATURAL DISASTERS ALSO THAT THAT MAY ACTUALLY HAPPEN.

UH, I DID MENTION I WAS GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT, WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO TO MITIGATE BEING UNDER PARKED.

SO IF YOU REMEMBER IN 2018, WE AWARDED A GRANT THROUGH THE NATIONAL RECREATION PARK ASSOCIATION FOR CREATING A PLAN, AND WE ROLLED IT OUT AS ELCON 2030 PLAN.

IF YOU EVER SEE THE LANYARDS REASON WHY I HAVE IS LIKE, WELL, WHAT'S ELCON 2030? IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THIS IS AND REALLY IT'S CONNECTING PEOPLE TO PARKS.

THE GOAL IS TO REALLY HAVE A PARK WITHIN A HALF MILE OF EVERY RESIDENCE.

UH, WE'RE AT ABOUT 55% RIGHT NOW.

WHEN WE STARTED IT, UM, BACK IN 2019, IN APRIL, 2019, COUNCIL APPROVED THE PLAN.

WE WERE AT 44%.

SO WE'VE SLOWLY GROWN AND THERE'S SOME MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO GROW A LITTLE BIT MORE AS TIME GOES ON.

AND I MENTIONED POCKET PARKS ONLY BECAUSE WE ARE SO UNDER PARKED.

WE DON'T HAVE A LARGE SPACE.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 10,000 SQUARE FOOT SPACES THAT WE CAN ADD IN A SPLASH PAD OR A PLAYGROUND OR ADULT FITNESS EQUIPMENT.

BUT TO ACTIVE RECREATION TO REALLY KEEP THAT SPACE ACTIVATED WITH POSITIVE CONNECTIONS.

WE DEVELOPED A PLAN THROUGH 18 COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

SOME OF THE MEETINGS HAD FIVE DIFFERENT LANGUAGES SPOKEN.

UH, A LOT OF THIS WAS HELPED THROUGH OUR COHEN VALLEY SCHOOL DISTRICT, UH, COLLABORATORS.

UM, AND THERE WERE OVER 800 SURVEYS TAKEN DURING THAT TIME PERIOD.

SO WHEN PEOPLE REFER BACK TO ME, WELL, WHY ARE YOU GOING IN THIS DIRECTION OR THAT DIRECTION? I'LL REFER BACK TO THIS PLAN SAYING, WELL, WE DID TAKE OVER 800 SURVEYS AND THIS IS WHY WE'RE GOING IN THIS DIRECTION.

SO IF I'M ASKED ABOUT PICKLEBALL OR IF I'M ASKED ABOUT WHY ARE YOU DOING HARDSCAPE SOCCER? IT'S BECAUSE THOSE ARE THINGS OUR COMMUNITY ASKS FOR VERY SPECIFICALLY, UH, RIGHT NOW INTERNALLY.

AND I PUT IT ON THERE AS A LAST BULLET.

WE'RE TARGETING ACCREDITATION THROUGH THE N RPA, OUR NATIONAL RECREATIONAL PARK ASSOCIATION.

UH, THERE'S 154 ITEMS YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO DO TO GET ACCREDITED.

OUR GOAL IS BY NEXT SPRING.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR OVER A YEAR NOW.

UH, AND WE'RE DOWN TO 15 ITEMS. UM, YOU'LL MEET ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THAT.

SHE'S GONNA BE PRESENTING JUST A LITTLE BIT.

UH, HER NAME'S ELNA HOLMES AND SHE'S THE MANAGEMENT ASSISTANT WITH OUR DEPARTMENT, BUT SHE'S REALLY BEEN THE BACKBONE BEHIND PUSHING THIS PROCESS FORWARD.

SO I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU GUYS RECOGNIZE HER WHEN SHE DOES HAVE HER OPPORTUNITY COMING UP.

ONE THING THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING AS PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH IS ACTUALLY THIS SATURDAY, JULY 15.

WE, WE DECIDED LAST WEEK THAT WE NEEDED TO REPURPOSE AND REHABILITATE THE PUBLIC WORKS PARKS MAINTENANCE BUILDING OVER AT WELLS PARK.

SO BETWEEN 11 AND TWO, IF YOU WANNA GET YOUR HAND PAINTED ON THE WALL THERE, COME ON DOWN TO WELLS PARK THIS COMING SATURDAY, AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO BE PART OF THAT PUBLIC MEAL PROJECT.

WHEN YOU SEE PUBLIC ART IN A PUBLIC SPACE, IT, IT DIMINISHES THAT BROKEN WINDOWS THEORY WHERE LIKE BAD THINGS ARE HAPPENING.

YOU SEE SOMETHING POSITIVE LIKE THAT.

IT'S A CELEBRATED ENTRYWAY, SO TO SPEAK.

UM, WORKING WITH CHRIS BERG, OUR MARKETING ENGAGEMENT MANAGER, HE WAS ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER THIS PIECE, HOPEFULLY BRIEF CAME BY JUST TAKING US IN FIVE MINUTES IF YOU WANNA COME BY AND ALSO WATCH THE ACTIVITY GOING ON.

UM, AND THIS IS JUST THE ORIGINAL HAND PRINTS CAME DURING THE JUNE, 2014 KABOOM BUILD.

UH, MAYOR, YOU'RE IN THAT PICTURE, IF YOU REMEMBER THAT DAY.

UH, BUT THAT'S THE DAY WHERE WE HAD ALMOST 200 VOLUNTEERS PUT THE, A PLAYGROUND TOGETHER IN THAT PARK ON THAT DAY.

UH, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

YOU MAY HAVE QUESTIONS.

I GOT A SESSION, STEVE.

YEAH.

HAS ANY CITY EVER PARTNERED WITH A PRIVATE LANDOWNER TO CREATE A PARTNERSHIP OF A PUBLIC PARK ON PRIVATE LAND FOR A A PERIOD OF TIME? SO WE'VE LOOKED AT TWO REALLY SUCCESSFUL MODELS.

ONE IS THE LA 50 MODEL.

SO THE CITY OF LA ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO STARTED AT LA 50 WHERE THEY WANTED TO ADD 50 POCKET PARKS.

SO THEY'VE ACTUALLY PARTNERED WITH PEOPLE THAT JUST HAD VACANT PARKING LOTS AND THEY THREW ARTIFICIAL TURF ON AND THEY DID A 20 YEAR LEASE FOR A DOLLAR A YEAR.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THOSE TYPE OF OPTIONS, UM, AND ALSO EVEN SCHOOL DISTRICT PARKING LOTS OR, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

SO WE'VE DEFINITELY HAVE HAD EVEN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PARKWAY PLAZA, BUT THOSE DIDN'T REALLY PAN OUT.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER OPTIONS ALSO IN THAT REGARD.

SPEAKING OF PARKWAY PLAZA, IS THERE A CHANCE TO PARTNER WITH PARKWAY PLAZA TO DO RECREATION CLASSES INSIDE OF EMPTY STOREFRONT? WE HAVE HAD SOME INITIAL DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM, BUT WE'RE STILL TRYING TO CONTINUE THOSE DISCUSSION, SEE IF, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THEY REALLY WANT TO DO WITH US, BUT WE DID START THAT CONVERSATION.

YES, SIR.

SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE GOOD TO BRING IN FOOT TRAFFIC TO THE MALL AND ABSOLUTELY ACCOMPLISH SOME FUN AT THE SAME TIME.

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WE WERE LOOKING AT A PICKLEBALL OPPORTUNITY, BUT IT JUST DIDN'T WORK OUT AT THE TIME.

MICHELLE, NICE PRESENTATION, FRANK.

UM, WE WENT TO WELLS PARK THIS WEEKEND TO THE DOG PARK.

I'VE GOT A BOOK CLUB THIS SATURDAY.

WE'RE GOING TO BE MEETING AT WELLS PARK CUZ WE NEEDED A PLACE TO, UM, MEET AND SO WE'LL BE THERE TO PUT OUR HAND PRINTS ON THE WALL.

OKAY, GREAT.

UM, SO I THINK THIS IS A REALLY GOOD IDEA AND YOU GUYS ARE DOING A WONDERFUL JOB.

AND I DO WANNA MAKE SURE I GIVE KUDOS TO THE PUBLIC WORKS PARTS DIVISION FOR ALL THEIR MAINTENANCE OF THE PARK ALSO, CUZ THEY'RE THE ONES THAT MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

IT LOOKS GREAT.

I DIDN'T CHECK OUT THE RESTROOMS, BUT I SEE THAT THEY'RE STILL IN PROGRESS, RIGHT? I THINK WE'RE WAITING FOR ROOFING MATERIAL ACTUALLY BE DELIVERED.

IT'S BEEN QUITE SOME TIME.

YEAH.

AND, AND THE LARGE DOG PARK WAS, IT IS, UM, MUCH BETTER, ALTHOUGH WE ARE MISSING THE WATER FOUNTAIN.

RIGHT? UM, I KNOW THAT THE SINKHOLE IS, IS BETTER NOW AND, UH, THERE WAS A LOT OF A LOT OF DOGS THERE THIS WEEKEND.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR KEEPING THAT UP.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

DO YOU HAVE YOUR PROCLAMATION WITH YOU? I DO.

SO WE'VE GOT A PROCLAMATION FOR IT'S, UH, NATIONAL PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH AND UH, I JUST WANNA READ THE END OF IT.

IT'S VERY LONG.

YES SIR.

BUT IT SAYS NOW THEREFORE, I BILL WELLS, THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF EL CAJON, TOGETHER WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.

DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF JULY, 2023 TO BE PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH IN THE CITY OF EL CAJON.

SIGN THIS 11TH DAY OF JULY, 2023.

YES, SIR.

PLEASE GIVE OUR BEST TO EVERYBODY ON THE STAFF AND TELL 'EM THANK YOU FOR ALL THEIR HARD WORK.

WE'RE REALLY LUCKY TO HAVE FRANK.

STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANY AGENDA CHANGES? UH, MAYOR, WE HAVE NO CHANGES.

AGENDA CHANGES.

[ AGENDA CHANGES:]

COUNSEL.

YES.

UH, IF I MAY, ONE AGENDA CHANGE AFTER REVIEWING THE AGENDA.

IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY IS JULY 11TH AND THAT IS TODAY IS, UM, MR. MAYER'S BIRTHDAY.

AND IN THE PAST HE'S FELT AS APPROPRIATE, UH, FOR THE ENTIRE COUNCIL CHAMBERS OF SAYING HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO EVER OTHER STAFF MEMBERS.

SO WITH YOUR APPROVAL, I DON'T REMEMBER THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR APPROVAL MR. MAYER.

ONE, TWO, THREE.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

TWO YOU HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY DEAR BILL.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.

OH, THANK I I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT.

I, I WAS SAYING WHAT CHANGE HE WANTS TO MAKE.

ITEMS ARE ROUTINE MATTERS ENACTED BY ONE MOTION ACCORDING TO THE RECOMMENDATION LISTED BELOW WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER OR A PERSON IN THE TENANTS MAY REQUEST DISCUSSION OF A CONSENT ITEM AT THIS TIME.

WE'RE AT, UH, CONSENT ITEMS NOW.

CONSENT

[7. CONSENT ITEMS: Consent Items are routine matters enacted by one motion according to the RECOMMENDATION listed below. With the concurrence of the City Council, a Council Member or person in attendance may request discussion of a Consent Item at this time.]

COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO YOU WISH TO PULL ANY OF THE CONSENT ITEMS? STAFF? NO, SIR.

JEN, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR CONSENT ITEMS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKER CARDS, SIR.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THEN TO APPROVE CONSENT.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS A MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE EL CAJON AND REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

THAT BRINGS US TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

[ PUBLIC COMMENT: At this time, any person may address a matter within the jurisdiction of the City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the El Cajon Redevelopment Agency that is not on the Agenda. Comments relating to items on today’s docket are to be taken at the time the item is heard. State law prohibits discussion or action on items not on the Agenda; however, Council, Authority and Agency Members may briefly respond to statements or questions. An item may be placed on a future Agenda.]

COMMENTS RELATING TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA ARE TO BE TAKEN AT THE TIME THAT THE ITEM IS HEARD.

STATE LAW PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

HOWEVER, CITY COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND TO QUESTIONS AND AN ITEM MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

JEN, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD AND THE SPEAKER IS GONNA BE BRENDA HAMMOND.

BRENDA, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE SEEN YOU.

HOW ARE YOU? NICE.

FINE.

SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH MY SERIES AGAIN LIKE A RERUN.

TODAY IS MY BROTHER RANDY'S BIRTHDAY TOO.

NO KIDDING.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BIG BROTHER.

UM, SO HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT THERE'S STILL A LOT OF VIOLENCE GOING ON? SO THE PAST FEW YEARS CANNOT BE BLAMED ON COVID? WE'RE DONE WITH COVID.

UM, WHAT I'M WITNESSING AGAIN STARTED WAY BEFORE COVID

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SOME OF YOU HEARD THIS SERIES ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO.

WELL, IT'S TIME TO REFRESH IN AT LEAST THREE CITIES.

AFTER ALL WE SHARE, WE SHARE A UM, FIRE DEPARTMENT.

RIGHT? SORRY, I HAVE TO READ THIS CUZ YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

DROPPING THE F BOMB IS NOT AGAINST THE LAW.

WHAT'S AGAINST THE LAW IS MESSING WITH PEOPLE SO THAT THEY DROP THE F-BOMB.

IT'S HARASSMENT AND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, IN MY OPINION.

MESS WITH ME.

I'M GONNA DROP THE F-BOMB, BUT YOU'RE GONNA MESS WITH SOMEONE ELSE AND YOU'RE GONNA GET HURT AND YOU'LL PROBABLY DESERVE IT.

ISN'T THAT WHAT WE'RE STILL SEEING OUT THERE? PEOPLE MESSING WITH PEOPLE, THEY'RE SHOOTING PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THEY ASK FOR IT.

SO TAKING AWAY OUR GUNS IS NOT A GOOD THING.

WE NEED TO DEFEND OURSELVES.

OURSELVES.

BY THE WAY, WHEN SOMEONE REPEATS SOMETHING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, IT PROBABLY MEANS THE SITUATION OR THE PROBLEM WAS NEVER RESOLVED.

IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE LABELED P T S D.

THESE ARE JUST, UM, REASONS TO PUT PEOPLE ON MEDICATION THAT MAKE THEM THAT WAY.

THERE'S MORE, BUT IT'S PERSONAL AND I'M, UM, HOPING IT'LL BE RESOLVED.

AND HERE'S A HINT.

IT HAS TO DO WITH RACIST AND SEXIST REMARKS ALONG WITH RECORDING REACTION, YOU KNOW, MESSING WITH PEOPLE THAT I, THAT I HAVE AGAIN BECOME A VICTIM OF.

YEP.

I DROPPED THE F BOMB AND WHILE I WAS BEING RECORDED BY THIS DUDE AND HE STILL RECORDS ME TO THIS DAY.

UM, SECURITY HAS WITNESSED IT AND NOW I JUST SAY AMI WAWA, IT'S A GYPSY KING SONG.

LOOK IT UP, IT'S FUN.

SO THE REST IS DOING IN LA MESA.

SO IT'S GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME.

THANKS FOR THE CONCERTS AND I LOVE HOW LEMON GROVE, UM, LA MESA AND EL CAJON.

WE ALL HAVE OUR CONCERTS ON DIFFERENT NIGHTS SO THAT WE CAN GO TO ALL OF THEM, YOU KNOW, CUZ SOME OTHER CITIES LIKE TO TRY AND HAVE HIM ON THE SAME NIGHTS AS OTHERS.

THANK YOU PHIL .

UM, SO THANK YOU.

AND I MS. GRAHAM, WHERE IS HE TAKING A VACATION? OH, HE DESERVES IT.

YEAH, I MEAN, HE AND I KNOW HE WOULD ALWAYS WISH MY BROTHER HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

UH, YOU KNOW, THEY GO TO THE SAME CHURCH.

SURE.

SEE YOU LATER.

THANKS FOR COMING, JEN.

ANYBODY ELSE? NO OTHER SPEAKER, SIR.

WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT THE, THE BEST CORRESPONDING USAGE IS AND, UM, DO SOME REDUCTIONS ON THAT.

WE'RE NOW PUBLIC HEARINGS.

WE HAVE ONE ITEM BEEN

[9. City of El Cajon Sewer Tax Roll Fees Report for Fiscal Year 2023-2024 RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council: Opens the Public Hearing and receives testimony; Closes the Public Hearing; Determines if a majority protest has been received; and (if not) Determines the project is exempt under section 15378(b)(5) of the Guidelines for the California Environmental Quality Act; and Adopts the next Resolution, in order, to: Determine the lack of majority protest; Overrule objections to the report; Accept the City of El Cajon Sewer Tax Roll Fiscal Year 2023-2024 Report; Accept Appendix A, which identifies by parcel number, each parcel of real property receiving sewer services, and the amount of sewer charges for each parcel for Fiscal Year 2023-2024 at the currently adopted rates, as required by the California Health and Safety Code section 5473, et seq., pertaining to collection of sewer charges on the tax roll; Direct the City Clerk to file the reports with the San Diego County Auditor; and Direct the Finance Department to file a certification of the sewer service charges with the San Diego County Auditor.]

CONSIDERED.

ITEM NINE IS FOR THE CITY OF EL CAJON SEWER TAX ROLL FEES.

AND I'LL ASK STAFF TO TELL US ABOUT THIS.

GOOD AFTERNOON, HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UH, TO START OFF THE DISCUSSION, UH, I DO NEED TO BRING UP, UH, THERE WERE A FEW, UH, MINOR ISSUES THAT WE HAD.

SO WHEN WE SEE THE RECOMMENDATION ITEM FIVE, WHERE IT ASKED TO ACCEPT APPENDIX A, THAT'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE APPENDIX B.

THE UH, ENGINEER'S REPORT THE MOST RECENT COPY HAS BEEN PROVIDED FOR YOU.

THAT ALSO LISTS APPENDIX B AS THE ACTUAL LISTING OF THE PARCELS WITH THE CORRESPONDING SEWER CHARGES.

UM, AND THEN APPENDIX A, WHICH IS INCORRECTLY LISTED IN THE, UM, AGENDA ITEM IS ACTUALLY THE SAMPLES OF THE LETTERS THAT WE SENT OUT.

SO JUST THAT CLARIFICATION.

UH, THE LAST THING IS APPENDIX C IS A LIST OF REDUCTIONS THAT WE HAVE GRANTED FOR SIX PARCELS.

UH, THIS IS A STANDARD PRACTICE WE HAVE EACH YEAR.

AFTER WE SEND THE NOTICES OUT, WE'LL GET COMMUNICATIONS FROM PROPERTY OWNERS REQUESTING REVIEW OF THEIR ACCOUNTS AND WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AND IF THEY HAD A LEAK IN A MONITORING PERIOD THAT'S UNREPRESENTED OF THEIR ANNUAL SEWER USAGE, WE'LL TRY,

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SO THAT IS, AGAIN, APPENDIX C THAT'S LISTED.

UM, HAS THE LISTING ON THERE AND YOU HAD THAT MADE AVAILABLE TO YOU TODAY.

UH, OTHER THAN THAT, WE DID SEE AN INTERESTING, UM, A DECREASE IN SEWER USAGE FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES THIS YEAR.

SO WE DID NOT, DESPITE OUR ALREADY PRE-APPROVED RATE INCREASE, WE DIDN'T SEE AN ACTUAL INCREASE IN REVENUE FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL, UH, THAT STAYED AT THE SAME LEVEL.

SO THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME, IT WAS A WET WINTER, UH, SO THERE WAS SOME CONSERVATION GOING ON, WHICH IS GOOD.

UM, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, OUR TOTAL REVENUE THAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO ACCEPT THIS YEAR IS 29 MILLION AND, UH, 500, WELL, 29,550,365 AND 6 CENTS.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU QUESTIONS.

STEVE, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT RATES DIDN'T INCREASE EVEN THOUGH VOLUME WENT DOWN.

SO YEAH, VOLUME, VOLUME WENT DOWN FOR THE, THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.

UM, BUT THE RATES DID GO UP A LITTLE BIT.

SO THE OVERALL EFFECTIVE REVENUE THAT WE STAND TO GET IS BASICALLY FLATLINE SAME AS LAST YEAR.

SO TO, TO CLARIFY, TO BE CLEAR, YOU'RE SAYING THE VOLUME OF SEWAGE DECREASED FROM RESIDENTIAL? YES, FROM RESIDENTIAL, YEAH.

EVEN THOUGH WE HAD AN INCREASE IN POPULATION.

YEAH, THAT'S, I I GET THE WET WINTER.

THAT WOULD BE IF YOU BASE YOUR SEWER CHARGES ON FIXED WATER RATE AND RAIN AND EXTERIOR.

BUT, BUT THE ACTUAL AMOUNT OF, OF FLOW GOING DOWN IS, IS PUZZLING BUT INTERESTING.

BUT NICE TO KNOW THAT, UH, WE'RE COVERING OUR COSTS.

CLEANING THOSE PIPES AND PUTTING EITHER BORIC ACID OR THE COCKROACH SALVA AN EARWIG BAIT, WHICH THEY USE IN THE IMPERIAL VALLEY TO KEEP THE PESTILENCE FROM DAMAGING THE CROPS.

STEVE, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I MEAN, PHIL, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? NO, MICHELLE.

ARE THERE ANY UH, SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS? WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER AND THE SPEAKER'S GONNA BE TIM SWING.

TIM'S STILL HERE.

LOOKS LIKE MAYBE HE'S NOT HERE ANYMORE.

I WAS BEFORE YOU GUYS 15 MONTHS AGO ASKING WHY OUR SEWER DEPARTMENT CAN'T DO ITS JOB OF CLEANING THE SEWERS AND PUTTING BORIC ACID OR ANOTHER TYPE OF BAIT WHICH KILLS COCKROACHES, SAGS, AND EARWIGS.

SO THESE COCKROACHES DON'T COME UP.

OUR SEWER PIPES COME INTO OUR BATHROOMS. THAT'S THE FIRST PLACE THEY GO.

NO.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH OR HOW WELL YOU PEOPLE, NO.

HOW THE DRAINS WORK ON YOUR HOUSE.

YOUR BATHTUB HAS A VENT PIPE, WHICH IS AN OVERFLOW.

YOUR SINK SHOULD, IN YOUR BATHROOMS HAVE A VENT TO LET THE AIR OUT OF THE PIPE SO THE WATER WILL GO DOWN.

THERE'S A TOOL, IT'S VERY NOT THIS LONG, IT'S PLASTIC AND HAS LITTLE BARBS ON IT.

SO YOU PUSH IT DOWN THAT VENT AND YOU PULL IT BACK OUT TO CLEAN OUT ANYTHING THAT IS CLOGGING THE VENT, WHICH MAKES THE WATER NOT GO DOWN AS FAST AS IT'S SUPPOSED TO.

WHEN YOU PULL THAT BACK OUT AND OUT COME COCKROACHES, THE CITY'S GOT A PROBLEM.

AND I ASKED FOR THIS 15 MONTHS AGO, THEY HAVEN'T DONE THING.

THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE PAY AS A BASE SEWER FEE IS SUPPOSED TO COVER THAT SEWER MACHINE AND THE CREWS

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WHY CAN'T THESE PEOPLE DO THEIR JOB? I SEE INEFFICIENCY.

IF THE MAYOR NEEDS MY HELP TO KICK THE BUTT OF THE PERSON IN CHARGE OF THAT DEPARTMENT, ALL HE'S GOTTA DO IS ASK ME.

I WATCH YOU ON TELEVISION GOING ROUND AND ROUND WITH THE COUNTY AND I KNOW YOU'RE WORKING DAMNED HARD TO TAKE CARE OF THE HOMELESS SITUATION AND THEY DON'T WANT TO COOPERATE WITH YOU.

AND I KNOW HOW HARD YOU'RE WORKING.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I SEE IT ALL THE TIME.

LET ME ASK OUR STAFF, DO YOU, DO YOU WANNA COMMENT ON THIS AT ALL? I I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE MECHANICS OF THIS.

I I'LL DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THE ISSUE WITH, WITH THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

IT'S NOT A COMPLAINT WE HEAR FREQUENTLY.

UM, I REMEMBER MR. SWANG FROM 15 MONTHS AGO.

SO LET ME, LET ME DISCUSS IT WITH OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT AND I WILL REPORT BACK TO THE COUNCIL ON THIS SITUATION SPECIFICALLY.

CAN UH, SOMEBODY ALSO GET BACK TO THE GENTLEMAN ABOUT THIS? YES, WE CAN DO THAT.

SIR, CAN YOU LEAVE YOUR, YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND SOMEBODY WILL CALL YOU AND IF FOR SOME REASON YOU'RE NOT SATISFIED, CAN YOU COME BACK AND TALK TO US AGAIN? YES.

I, I LIVE IN THE AREA OF EL CAJON.

THERE'S AN AERIAL PHOTOGRAPH IN THE BASEMENT OF CITY HALL.

A BON WALL THAT COVERS FROM THIRD TO FOURTH COMING FROM WHERE THE OLD FREEWAY WAS ALL THE WAY DOWN PAST MELODY.

MY HOME WAS ONE OF THE MODEL HOMES IN THAT AREA.

I'VE GOT OTHER NEIGHBORS THAT TELL ME, MAN, WHY ARE THESE COCKROACHES COMING FROM, I SENT THAT MANHOLE OUT IN THE STREET, BUT IT'S EASIER TO CRAWL UP YOUR SOER PIPE AT NIGHT.

WELL THAT, SO IF YOU WANT, WELL, I'M GONNA LET MY STAFF LOOK INTO THIS TYPE OF PUBLIC WORKS.

THEY'RE GONNA CONTACT YOU IF THEY'RE GONNA CONTACT ME BACK.

AND IF WE CAN'T RESOLVE THIS PROBLEM FOR SOME REASON, THEN COME BACK AND TALK TO ME AGAIN.

BUT WE'RE GONNA WORK ON TRYING TO FIX IT.

I I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO HAVE COCKROACHES IN THEIR HOME.

IF WE CAN, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THE CITY CAN DO TO, TO MAKE THAT GO AWAY, WE'LL DO WHATEVER WE CAN.

WE'LL SEE, BY THE WAY, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE IN VIETNAM.

IF THE COCKROACHES WERE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WE WOULD SEE THEM AT NIGHT CUZ THAT'S WHEN THEY COME OUT.

MM-HMM.

, YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT THAT.

YOU WOULD WALK OUTTA YOUR HOUSE AT 10, 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, TURN ON A LIGHT, AND YOU'D SEE THE COCKROACHES RUNNING AROUND ON THE GROUND.

SO WHEN YOU DON'T SEE 'EM RUNNING AROUND ON THE GROUND, AND THEN YOU HAVE 'EM COMING OUTTA YOUR SHOWER DRAIN, BATHTUB DRAIN, AND IN THE VENT PIPE OF YOUR BATHROOM SINKS AND THE SOMEBODY NOT DOING HIS JOB.

AND YOU GUYS ARE COLLECTING A LOT OF MONEY FOR THESE GUYS, AND ALL I THINK THEY'RE DOING IS THEY'RE STROKING IT.

WELL, LET'S LOOK, LET'S LOOK INTO IT.

I I THANK YOU FOR COMING THOUGH, SIR.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

LET'S, LET'S KEEP IN TOUCH AND FIGURE THIS PROBLEM OUT.

ANYBODY ELSE? NO OTHER SPEAKERS.

ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL, IT'S, UH, BACK WITH US.

SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, OH, I'M SORRY.

I HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I WILL DO SO IF I HAVE A SECOND.

ALL RIGHT, NOW IT'S BACK WITH US.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT LOOKING FOR, FOR A MOTION.

I'LL MOVE TO ADOPT THE, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION AS PRESENTED IN THE AGENDA REPORT WITH THE MODIFICATION OF ACCEPTING APPENDIX B INSTEAD OF APPENDIX A AS

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PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED.

ALL RIGHT, PLEASE VOTE.

10 IS THE N RPA SLASH DOJ MENTORING OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUTH AND INITIATIVE GRANT ACCEPTANCE.

ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE TWO ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

ITEM

[10. NRPA/DOJ Mentoring Opportunities for Youth Initiative Grant Acceptance RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council accepts, appropriates and expends the grant agreement funding from the National Recreation & Park Association (NRPA) Mentoring Opportunities for Youth Initiative.]

AND I'LL ASK STAFF TO TELL US ALL ABOUT THIS.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS ELENA HOLMES AND I'M JOINED BY TIM AMELIA PARKS AND RECREATION SUPERVISOR.

TODAY WE'RE GONNA GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF PARKS AND RECREATIONS.

RECENTLY AWARDED GRANT OPPORTUNITY WITH THE N R P A.

FIRST, A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE N R P A N R P IS THE NATIONAL RECREATION AND PARK ASSOCIATION, A NONPROFIT AGENCY THAT HAS ESTABLISHED MENTORSHIP PROGRAMS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

THESE PROGRAMS HELP HELP CONNECT YOUTH WITH MENTORS, INCREASED COLLABORATION AND STRENGTHEN COMMUNITIES.

15 AGENCIES HAVE BEEN AWARDED N R P A GRANTS SINCE 2018.

OVERALL PARKS AND RECREATION AGENCIES IN THE US REACH 40 MILLION YOUTH ANNUALLY.

THIS GRANT FUNDING GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD CONNECTIONS WITH THE YOUTH OF EL CAJON, WHICH MATCHES OUR DEPARTMENT'S MISSION TO DEVELOP YOUTH SUPPORT FAMILIES AND PROVIDE SAFE PLACES.

THIS GRANT IS PRIMARILY DIRECTED TOWARDS PROVIDING PROGRAMS OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL HOURS.

FUNDING FROM THIS GRANT IS SUPPORTED BY THE OFFICE OF JUVENILE JUSTICE AND DELINQUENCY PROGRAM AND SUPPORTS YOUTH MENTORSHIP IN EL CAJON THROUGH OCTOBER, 2025.

WE ARE ONE OF THREE MUNICIPAL PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENTS IN THE STATE TO RECEIVE THIS AWARD.

IN TOTAL, THIS GRANT IS FUNDING MENTORSHIP PROGRAMS AT 20 AGENCIES OVER THE NEXT THREE YEARS.

ULTIMATELY, OUR GOAL IS TO CREATE IS TO INCREASE POSITIVE OUTCOMES IN AT-RISK YOUTH.

SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS PROGRAM, UH, IN REGARDS TO THE, THE MENTORSHIP, UH, FRAMEWORK OVERALL, UH, FOR THIS PROPOSED MENTORSHIP PROGRAM, I REALLY DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT OUR TEEN COALITION.

I KNOW MOST OF YOU ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH OUR TEEN COALITION, UH, AND QUICK REFERENCE, IT IS FOR YOUTH IN GRADES SIX TO 12 WHO ARE IN THE CITY OF EL CAJON RESIDENTS, OR THEY GO TO OUR SCHOOLS WITHIN THE CITY OF EL CAJON.

UH, SO FOR THIS PROGRAM, WE WILL BE INCORPORATING A GROUP MENTORSHIP COMPONENT WITHIN THE TEEN COALITION, AS WELL AS TASKING THEM IN A LEADERSHIP ROLE TO HELP US DELIVER AND IMPLEMENT A MENTORSHIP COMPONENT WITHIN OUR YOUTH SPORTS PROGRAMMING.

THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THIS.

SO BY LEVERAGING OUR ALREADY ESTABLISHED YOUTH SPORTS PROGRAMS, WE WILL LOOK TO PROVIDE GUEST SPEAKER OPPORTUNITIES, ADDITIONAL FUN ACTIVITIES AND ENGAGEMENT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.

AND JUST BRIEFLY, SO WITH THIS PROGRAM, UH, SOME OF OUR BIG PICTURE GOALS, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO ESTABLISH AND TO PROVIDE A GROUP MENTORSHIP, UH, TO THE YOUTH OF EL CAJON.

UH, AGAIN, WE LOOK TO ESTABLISH THIS WITHIN OUR TEEN COALITION AND SPECIFICALLY OUR YOUTH SPORTS PROGRAMMING.

WE LOOK TO INCREASE COMMUNITY COLLABORATION THROUGH THIS PROGRAM.

AND THEN, UH, WE ALSO ARE LOOKING TO DEVELOP STRONGER RELATIONSHIPS.

UH, THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WOULD BE, UH, THROUGH THE PARTICIPANTS OF THIS PROGRAM.

UH, SO RELATIONSHIPS AMONGST PEERS AND OVERALL WITH THIS PROGRAM, WE ARE LOOKING TO IMPORTANTLY JUST IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE POSITIVE OUTCOMES THAT ARE WITHIN THE LIVES OF THE ELCON EL CAJON YOUTH.

SO, UH, WITH THAT, OUR RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL IS TO ACCEPT APPROPRIATE AND EXPEND GRANT FUNDING FROM THE NATIONAL RECREATION AND PARKS ASSOCIATION MENTORING OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOUTH INITIATIVES.

AND WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION AND WE ARE HERE FOR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

THANKS VERY MUCH.

LET ME SEE IF THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS.

ANYBODY? THANKS.

I APPRECIATE YOUR PRESENTATION.

JEN, ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS? THERE ARE NO SPEAKER CARDS, SIR.

UM, MOVE TO ACCEPT AND APPROVE.

UM, IF THERE'S NO FURTHER DISCUSSION, WOULD LIKE SOMEBODY TO LIKE TO PROCEED WITH A MOTION,

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SECOND, PLEASE.

UH, VOTE.

IS A REPORT ON THE AVAILABILITY OF PUBLIC RESTROOMS FOR TRANSIT PASSENGERS AT THE ELK CAJON TROLLEY STATIONS.

THE SECOND ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

ITEM 11

[11. A Report on the Availability of Public Restrooms for Transit Passengers at the El Cajon Trolley Stations RECOMMENDATION: Staff recommends that the City Council receives the report and provides appropriate direction to staff.]

I'LL ASK STAFF TO TELL US ABOUT THIS.

AND I THINK I REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT OUR GOAL SETTING.

UH, YES, MAYOR, YOU'RE CORRECT.

UM, AS PART OF THAT GOAL SETTING SESSION, STAFF WAS ASKED TO PROVIDE THE COUNSEL WITH AN ANALYSIS OF WHERE EXACTLY STATUS OF WHERE RESTROOM FACILITIES ARE LOCATED FOR THE WRITING PUBLIC, FOR THE MTS TRANSIT AND TROLLEY SYSTEM.

SO, UM, I BELIEVE THERE IS A, YOUR, UM, EXHIBIT A THAT'S IN YOUR STAFF REPORT I'M HAVING PULLED UP RIGHT NOW.

I'LL JUST WAIT A SECOND.

THERE IT IS.

IF YOU CAN BLOW THAT UP JUST A TOUCH.

SO WHAT I DID WAS I FOCUSED ON, UM, SANTEE, UH, EL CAJON LA MESA, THE, THE OUR NEIGHBORS AND WHERE THEIR RESTROOM FACILITIES ARE.

UM, AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE EXHIBIT, SANTEE HAS, UH, ONE STOP WITH BATHROOM FACILITIES.

LA MESA HAS TWO STOPS WITH BATHROOM FACILITIES.

EL CAJON HAS THREE STOPS.

N NONE OF THEM WITH DESIGNATED BATHROOM FACILITIES WI EXCEPT THE AMART.

THE AMART IS A CONVENIENCE STORE LOCATED ON THE TROLLEY PROPERTY, UH, ON THE MTS PROPERTY, AND IT DOES DEFACTO SERVE AS A RESTROOM FOR THE RIDING PUBLIC.

THE WAY THAT THAT SYSTEM WORKS IS THAT RIDERS WOULD COME OFF AT THE, UH, MARSHALL STATION, THEY WOULD GO INTO THE AMART, UH, THEY WOULD SECURE A TOKEN, THEY WOULD GO THROUGH A TURNSTILE AND THEN INTO THE RESTROOMS. AND THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY AN IDEAL SITUATION.

THE SYSTEM IS SOMEWHAT CUMBERSOME, AS I MENTIONED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

THE WRITING PUBLIC WHO GET OFF AT THAT STATION AND NEED TO USE THE RESTROOM, UM, HAVE TO GO THROUGH KIND OF A CIRCUITOUS ROUTE TO GET THE TOKEN TO GO THROUGH THE TURNSTILE.

THEY COULD EASILY MISS BUS CONNECTIONS OR CONNECTIONS TO THEIR NEXT STOP.

UM, THERE IS NO, I, I VISITED THE SITE IN, IN PART TO PREPARE FOR THIS REPORT.

I DIDN'T SEE ANY EXTERNAL SIGNAGE ON THE AMART OR AT THE PLATFORM.

SO THERE'S VERY LITTLE, UM, ADVERTISING TO THE RIDING PUBLIC THAT A RESTROOM IS AVAILABLE AT THE MARSH AT THE MARSHALL STOP.

SO THAT, THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE SITUATION IS AT THIS POINT.

WE HAVE OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE NORTH AND WEST WITH STOPS THAT HAVE DESIGNATED BATHROOM FACILITIES.

BUT EL CAJON HAS A BIT OF A CUMBERSOME SYSTEM AT THE MARSHALL LOCATION.

AND WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT MTS IS DOING, WHICH IS TRYING TO BETTER UTILIZE AND REDEVELOP SOME PARKING AREAS BY ENCOURAGING THE DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND MARKET RATE HOUSING AS THEY ARE HERE IN EL CAJON, UM, THE OPPORTUNITY TO REQUEST OF THEM TO MAKE THE INVESTMENT AND PROVIDE DESIGNATED RESTROOM FACILITIES FOR TRANSIT RIDERS WOULD, WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE ACTION TO TAKE.

AT THIS TIME, OUR, OUR, OUR ABILITIES ARE SOMEWHAT LIMITED BECAUSE WE DO NOT OWN THE MTS PROPERTY.

THE MTS, UH, MTS OWNS THAT PROPERTY.

THEY OPERATE THE SYSTEM.

SO THE, THE BEST WE CAN DO AT THIS POINT IS POINT OUT THE NECESSITY OF, OF THIS BASIC, OF, OF ALL NEEDS AND THE LACK OF FACILITIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY PROVIDED.

AND STAFF CAN CERTAINLY, UM, ENGAGE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH MTS, UH, AND A FORMAL LETTER, UH, FROM THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, ADDRESSING THIS ISSUE, UH, COULD BE SENT.

THAT'S, AND, AND ALSO WE CAN CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSIONS WITH MTS AS WE ARE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF, OF THE EL CAJON SITE FOR HOUSING AND TALK ABOUT THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS.

IT, IT, IF YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO INCLUDE, INCLUDE RIDERSHIP AND INCLUDE ACTIVITY AROUND THE TRANSIT STATIONS, IT WOULD BE VERY WISE TO INCLUDE, UH, RESTROOM FACILITIES THAT ARE DESIGNATED FOR MTS AND NOT PART OF A CONVENIENCE STORE.

SO THAT'S THE ANALYSIS THAT WE CAN CONDUCT THAT WE CONDUCTED.

UM, MY RECOMMENDATION IS, IS THAT THIS COUNCIL DIRECT STAFF TO WRITE A LETTER AND MAKE OUR FEELINGS KNOWN ON THE ISSUE AND CONTINUE A DIALOGUE WITH MTS TOWARDS ULTIMATELY REALIZING, YOU KNOW, UM, A RESTROOM FACILITY AT ONE OR MORE OF OUR STATIONS.

THANKS, VINCE.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR VINCE? UM, I, ALRIGHT.

UM, LET'S SEE IF THERE'S ANY, UH, SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS.

NO SPEAKER CARDS, SIR.

ALRIGHT, WELL, I, I RECOMMEND WE ACCEPT VINCE'S PROPOSALS.

THEY ALL SEEM REASONABLE TO ME.

DO YOU NEED, DO YOU NEED US TO VOTE ON THIS VINCE, OR JUST TO RECEIVE

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THE REPORT AND APPROPRIATE DIRECTIONS BEEN GIVEN TO STAFF.

OH, SO MOVED.

SO PLEASE VOTE.