Feb 26, 2019 City Council Meeting 7pm

[ CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Bill Wells]

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HI LADIES AND JELLO.

WELCOME TO THE EVENING SESSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

THE MEETING IS NOT CALLED THE ORDER AND CITY CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.

DEPUTY MAYOR GOBEL IS SAMPSON.

ALL OTHER COUNSEL IS PRESENT.

WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? REMAIN STANDING FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION.

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[ AGENDA CHANGES:]

STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANY AGENDA CHANGES? MR MAYOR? NO CHANGES TO THE AGENDA COUNCIL AND THE AGENDA CHANGES

[ PUBLIC COMMENT: At this time, any person may address a matter within the jurisdiction of the City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the El Cajon Redevelopment Agency that is not on the Agenda. Comments relating to items on today’s docket are to be taken at the time the item is heard. State law prohibits discussion or action on items not on the Agenda; however, Council, Authority and Agency Members may briefly respond to statements or questions. An item may be placed on a future Agenda.]

ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS THE MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNSEL HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE OAK CONE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.

THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

COMMENTS RELATING TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA ARE TO BE TAKEN AT THE TIME THAT THE ATMOS HEARD.

STATE LAW PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

HOWEVER, COUNCIL AUTHORITY AND THE NC MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND TO STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS AND AN ITEM MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS THAT ARE PUBLIC COMMENT? WE HAVE ONE CARD.

GEORGE IBARRA.

WELL, SIR, WELCOME.

THANK YOU.

WHILE I'M HERE.

AGAIN, MAYOR.

GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS GEORGE .

I WORK WITH M C I WORKED FOR CSC, SAID YOU'LL COUNT IT FOR HOUSING.

YOU'RE A FREE HOUSING PROVIDER.

UM, AND FOR THE WONDERFUL CITIZENS OF EL CAHONE.

WE ARE AN AGENCY THAT IS APPROVED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF FAIR HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENT.

THIS PAST YEAR WE HAVE BEEN PRIVILEGED TO PROVIDE FAIR HOUSING SERVICE TO OUR GREAT CITY.

WE HAD CSA HAD BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN KEEPING QUITE A NUMBER OF OUR CITIZENS FROM BECOMING HOMELESS THROUGH EDUCATION, NEGOTIATING AND ASSISTING SOME OF OUR HOMELESS POPULATION WITH FINDING HOUSING THROUGH MUTUAL COLLABORATION WITH THE HARDWORKING ALCOHOL CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, JAMIE AND STAFF.

WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO INSURANCE SECURE HABITABLE LOON CONDITIONS FOR MANY CITIZENS BY ADDRESSING LEAKING ROOFS, MOLD ISSUES, BEDBUG MOUSE RAT AND COCKROACH INFESTATIONS, PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL ISSUES AND NO HEAT.

HEATING SOURCE AND RENTAL UNITS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED AND IN MOST CASES CASES REMEDIED.

OUR MAIN FOCUS HOWEVER IS THAT THE FAIR HOUSING ACT OF 1968 AND ALL OF ITS LAWS AND PROVISIONS ARE RESPECTED AND SECURED FOR ALL.

WE HAVE ADDRESSED MANY ISSUES WHEN IT COMES TO OUR DISABLED COMMUNITY.

REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE THAT HAVE REQUESTED AN ACCOMMODATION BY OWNERS THAT ARE NOT WILLING TO GIVE THEM ONE UNTIL WE HAVE INTERVENE AND ADVOCATE ON THEIR BEHALF.

OUR MILITARY VETERANS, MANY OF WHOM BY UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCES HAVE RETURNED HOME TO US WITH PTSD AND OTHER MEDICAL ISSUES ARE IN NEED OF A SERVICE DOG AND OR EMOTIONAL SUPPORT THERAPY ANIMAL AND HAVE BEEN DENIED.

THOSE CASES HAVE BEEN DIRECT.

I'VE BEEN ADDRESSED AND ADDRESSED BY OUR FULLTIME FAIR HOUSING ATTORNEY TO WHICH WE AT PRESENT HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT SUCCESS RATE TO DATE ARE THE CALLS MADE TO CSA BY THE PUBLIC AND OTHER CITIES OF WHICH WE ARE FAIR.

THEY'RE FAIR HOUSING PROVIDER.

EL CAHONE MAKES UP 41% OF THOSE CALLS THIS YEAR.

WE ARE REQUESTING THAT YOU ASSIST US IN THE CONTINUED SERVICES THAT CSA HAS PROVIDED TO OUR GREAT CITY BY POSSIBLY UH, AND HOPEFULLY INCREASING OUR BUDGET SOMEWHAT.

CAN I READ A LETTER RIGHT QUICK FROM ONE OF THE CONSTITUENTS PLEASE.

THANK YOU.

THIS IS A LETTER FROM UM, MR ROBERT HAM STREET.

UNFORTUNATELY, HE WASN'T ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY BECAUSE HE'S ILL, BUT HE DID WANT ME TO CONVEY THIS MESSAGE TO YOU.

ON FEBRUARY 26TH, UH, ADDRESSED TO ME, IT SAYS, DEAR GEORGE GRACE CARL AND MYSELF MET WITH EARLY IN FEBRUARY ASKING IF YOU COULD HELP US REACH OUT TO OUR LATE LANDLADY MISS SHANKS TO GRANT US MORE TIME TO VACATE THE PROPERTY.

WE HAVE RENTED FROM HERE FOR LIKE 10 YEARS.

MY WIFE IS STILL THE, SHE IS FULLY DISABLED.

SHE HAS DEMENTIA PROBLEMS AND SHE WAS NOT ABLE TO HELP WITH PACKING.

REQUIRED US TO MOVE FROM THE PROPERTY AT.

I'LL LEAVE THE ADDRESS BUDGETS AND ALCOHOL ON WITHIN A FEW DAYS.

YOU CALLED US AGENTS KNOW THAT WE HAVE BEEN GRANTED AN EXTRA 60 DAYS TO VACATE THE PROPERTY.

UM, OUR LANDLORD WANTS TO REHAB HER HOUSE AND NEEDED US TO BE KID IN ORDER TO DO THE WORK REQUIRED.

GEORGE, WE TRULY THANK YOU FOR THE SERVICE YOU PROVIDED TO US.

THE EXTRA 60 DAY EXTENSION ALLOWS ME TO MAKE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO PACK OUR BELONGINGS, FIND ANOTHER RENTAL, AND MOVE TO ANOTHER HOME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH ROBERT.

FM STREET.

MR HAM STREET IS AN 86 YEAR OLD TEACHER.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY, UH, THEY LOST THEIR HOME A WHILE BACK, BUT HE'S SECURING HOUSING AND HE'S GOT ANOTHER 60 DAYS TO GO.

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AND I FORGOT TO MENTION TONY TOO, HE'S BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US OUT WITH, UH, UH, REMEDIED SITUATIONS HERE IN THE CITY.

WE ALL CONE OSCAR, HOLD ON.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

YES SIR.

FOR YOU ON A SERVICE DOGS TODAY, WHAT IS THE LAW IN THAT? DID THEY JUST REQUIRE A LETTER FROM A DOCTOR? WE HAVE OUR, OUR A FULL TIME ATTORNEY HAS, UM, GENERATED A REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION PACKET OF WHICH THEY TAKE TO THEIR, TO THEIR PROVIDERS OR THEIR, UM, DOCTOR, THEIR PHYSICIAN AND HE WILL FILL THAT OUT AND THEN A LETTER IS GENERATED AND SENT TO THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY.

OKAY.

SO IT'S OKAY FOR A LANDLORD JUST TO ASK FOR THE LETTER.

IT'S OKAY.

YES.

BUT THE, THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO DIG ANY DEEPER AS TO WHAT THEIR MEDICAL CONDITION WAS.

THEY NEED A SERVICE STYLE.

YES SIR.

YES SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN, SIR.

NO MORE CARDS, SIR.

[100. FY 2019-2023 FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN AND FY 2019-2020 ONE YEAR ACTION PLAN RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council: Opens the public hearing; Accepts public input for the Five Year Consolidated Plan and One Year Action Plan; Closes the public hearing; Approves the draft Five Year Consolidated Plan and allocates Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) and HOME grant funds to projects and programs that will form the core of the FY 2019-2020 One Year Action Plan. The final Five Year Consolidated Plan and a preliminary funding schedule reflecting the City Council’s decisions relative to the FY 2019-2020 One Year Action Plan will be prepared and presented for final approval and adoption at the second public hearing scheduled for April 23, 2019 at 3:00 pm.]

WE ARE NOW AT PUBLIC HEARING.

ITEM 100 IS FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2019 THROUGH 2023 THE FIVE-YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN AND THE 2019 THROUGH 2021.

YOUR ACTION PLAN STAFF, COULD YOU TELL US ABOUT THIS PLACE? OKAY.

YES, MARIN COUNCIL.

GOOD EVENING.

AS THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA IS A RECIPIENT OF A CDBG AND HOME PHONES, THE CITY MUST PREPARE A FIVE YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN AND UM, PART OF THAT CONSOLIDATED PLAN INCLUDES THE ONE YEAR ACTION PLAN, UM, FOR THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN.

THE FORM OF THE, THIS PLAN IS, UM, STIPULATED BY HUD TO STAFF CAN'T MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THAT DRAFT PLAN WHICH IS ATTACHED TO YOUR REPORT.

UH, WE JUST PROVIDE THE INFORMATION THROUGH OUR CONSULTANT.

UH, MAJOR ELEMENTS OF THE PLAN INCLUDE AN ASSESSMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT NEEDS BASED ON DEMOGRAPHIC DATA, UM, AND HOUSING MARKET INFORMATION.

UM, THAT ALSO INCLUDES, UM, WHAT THE CITY'S GOALS ARE IN TERMS OF PRIORITIES IN, UM, MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY IN, IN, IN WHAT FUNDS ARE ELIGIBLE TO BE USED FOR.

ALSO INCLUDES COMMUNITY INPUT.

AND IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY INPUT, THE CITY STAFF HAD, UH, TWO COMMUNITY MEETINGS, WHICH WERE HELD, UH, HERE, UM, HERE IN OKLAHOMA AT THE LOCAL, UM, COMMUNITY CENTERS, ABOUT 14 PEOPLE SHOWED UP AT THOSE MEETINGS.

THEY ALSO HAD ONLINE SURVEYS AND HAD 177 RESPONSE, 77 RESPONSES, 172 RESPONSES, EXCUSE ME.

AND THAT WAS INCLUDED INTO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PLAN.

SO THE PLAN IS, UM, AS A LOT OF DEMOGRAPHIC AND HOUSING DATA IN IT, BUT THE REALLY THE MAIN, THE MAIN PART OF THE PLAN ARE THE GOALS, UH, THAT ARE, UM, MEETING THE CITY COUNCIL POLICY OF DELIVERING ONE DECENT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO SUPPORT FOR CONTINUUM OF CARE FOR THE HOMELESS, UH, PROVIDING COMMUNITY FACILITIES AND VIT STRUCTURE AND PROVIDING COMMUNITY AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES.

AND THESE GOALS ARE MET THROUGH THE ONE YEAR ACTION PLAN, WHICH IS BROUGHT BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL EACH AND EVERY YEAR.

SO AS I WAS SAYING THIS, THIS, UH, WHEN YOUR ACTION PLAN IS REQUIRED EACH YEAR OF THE FIVE-YEAR CONSOLIDATED PLAN, IT IDENTIFIES ALL THE PROJECTS AND ACTIVITIES TO MEET THOSE GOALS AND PRIORITIES IN THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN.

UM, HISTORICALLY FUNDING IS, UM, BEING IN THE LOW 1 MILLION.

SO YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THIS TABLE THAT THE, UH, FUNDING HAS BEEN ABOUT 1.1 UP TO 1.2 MILLION FOR CDBG.

AND IN THE LOW FOUR HUNDREDS, UH, FOR HOME, HOWEVER, LAST YEAR'S ALLOCATION WAS A BIT HIGHER THAN EXPECTED.

UM, AND THOSE FUNDS WERE APPROPRIATED ACCORDINGLY BASED ON THE, THE FORMULAS AND PARAMETERS OF CDBG AND HOME PHONE, UH, RULES AND REGULATIONS.

SO IN TERMS OF THE CDBG FUNDS THAT THE CITY'S ESTIMATING, WE WOULD RECEIVE, A 20% IS ALLOCATED TO THE ADMINISTRATION OF THOSE GRANTS.

SO THOSE FUNDS, UM, SO THAT WOULD BE ABOUT 255,000 BASED ON A CDBG ALLOCATION OF A LITTLE OVER 1.2 MILLION, UH, PUBLIC SERVICES.

UH, THERE'S A 15% CAP ON THAT, SO THAT'S JUST OVER 191,000.

AND THEN CAPITAL, THERE IS NO CAP.

AND THAT'S TYPICALLY THE REMAINING BALANCE OF THOSE FUNDS, WHICH GO INTO CAPITAL PROJECTS.

AND WE'RE S WE'RE EXPECTING, UM, ABOUT $830,000.

SO IN TERMS OF THE, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE ALLOCATION OF CDBG FUNDS, UH, HISTORICALLY WE HAVE ASKED THAT THE CDBG AT 20% CAP BE MET FOR ADMINISTRATION OF THOSE CDBG FUNDS, UM, THAT THE FAIR HOUSING SERVICES BE, UM, ALLOCATED TO CSA, WHICH YOU JUST HERE HEARD SOME COMMENTS FROM A REPRESENTATIVE FROM CSA.

UH, AND UM, THAT'S THE MEETS THE TOTAL ADMIN ALLOCATIONS.

UM, IN TERMS OF PUBLIC FACILITIES, WE'RE LOOKING AT ANOTHER $500,000 TO WELLS PARK, UM, FOR IMPROVEMENTS

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UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT 250,000 BEING, UM, ALLOCATED TO THE, UH, PUBLIC WORKS, ADA RAMPS AND SIDEWALKS PROGRAM TO HELP FILL GAPS, UH, CORRECT DISCREPANCIES, UM, UM, UH, BUILD ADA CURB RAMPS, UH, WHERE NECESSARY IN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, ALSO WE'RE RECOMMENDING 25,000 TO THESE KIND OF TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER FOR, UH, SECURITY FENCING AROUND THEIR, UM, PROPERTY AND WITH THE LIMITED FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE, UH, THAT LEAVES 54,000 FOR THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB REQUEST, UM, TO REPLACE THEIR ROOF, UH, FOR PUBLIC SERVICES.

UM, UH, 50,000 PLUS IS RECOMMENDED FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS CRIME FEE MULTI-HOUSING PROG PROGRAM.

THAT'S BEEN AN ONGOING SUCCESS YEAR TO YEAR PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL.

UM, AGAIN FOR ECE, TLC, THEIR EMERGENCY SHELTER PROGRAMS. SO ANOTHER A HUNDRED THOUSAND, WHICH HAS BEEN THE YEAR TO YEAR, UM, ALLOCATION TO TLC FOR THEIR, UM, EMERGENCY SHELTER FOR HOMELESS.

THERE'S THE INTERFAITH SHELTER NETWORK, WHICH IS THE ROTATION OF EMERGENCY SHELTERING AMONG, UH, FACILITIES HERE IN EAST COUNTY, NOT JUST IN OKLAHOMA.

UM, OUR, UH, SID, THE ALCON CONTRIBUTION IS $10,000 AND MEALS ON WHEELS, WHICH HE KNOWS REAL IMPORTANT PROGRAM THAT'S PROVIDES NOT JUST MEALS, UH, BALANCE INBOUND SENIORS OR HOMEBOUND SENIORS.

UM, ALSO PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THESE FOLKS TO, WE CHECKED ON, HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEBODY CAUSE THESE FOLKS TYPICALLY LIVE ALONE AND ELDER HELP IS A NEW REQUEST.

UM, AND THEY HAVE A, WE'RE RECOMMENDING 15,000, SO THAT GIVES, THAT MEANS $190,000, ALMOST $191,000.

AND THAT'S THE TOTAL ALLOCATION ALLOWED, UH, FOR PUBLIC SERVICES FOR THE HOME APPLICANT.

HOME ALLOCATIONS.

THE CITY'S EXPECTING ABOUT 420,000 FROM HUD.

AND WITH THAT, YOU CAN SEE ON THIS CHART THAT THE CITY IS RECOMMENDING THE MAX BE PORTIONED OUT FOR THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE FUNDS AND THE PROGRAMS, UM, THAT, UH, 5,000 B, UM, UM, COBBLED WITH THE, UH, CDBG FUNDS FOR A TOTAL FAIR HOUSING SERVICE, UM, ALLOCATION OF 30,000 TO A CSA.

WE, UM, UNDER THE HUD RULES WE HAVE TO HAVE A 15%, UM, ALLOCATION TO A CERTIFIED HOUSING DEVELOPER.

A CHODO KIND OF THINK ABOUT, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING LIKE, UM, HABITAT FOR HUMANITY WHO BUILDS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

UM, AND THEN FOR THE, THE HO HOUSING PROGRAM PULL OF FUNDS, THOSE THAT, THAT'S THE FIRST TIME HOME BUYER PROGRAM, THE SINGLE FAMILY REHAB PROGRAM AS WELL AS A MOBILE HOME REHAB PROGRAM FOR THOSE HOUSEHOLDS WHO INCOME QUALIFY.

AND THOSE ARE LONG GOING ONGOING PROGRAMS AT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS DIRECTED, UM, THE CITY TO CONTINUE TO DO AND IS PAR AND, AND FILLS THE GOALS OF THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN.

SO THE STAFF IS ASKING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ACCEPT, UH, PUBLIC INPUT THAT YOU APPROVE THE DRAFT CONSOLIDATED PLAN AND YOU APPROVE THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2019 CDBG AND HOME FUND ALLOCATIONS.

UM, THIS IS THE FIRST OF TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS AS REQUIRED BY HUD.

SO WE'LL, WHAT STAFF WILL DO AFTER THIS MEETINGS PREPARE THE FINAL CONSOLIDATED PLAN AND THE ONE YEAR ACTION PLAN WILL RETURN TO THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE DAY MEETING ON APRIL 23RD AND WE'LL, WE'LL ASK THE CITY COUNCIL THERE TO MAKE THE FINAL APPROVAL, THE APPROVAL, THE CONSOLIDATED PLAN, THE FINAL CDBG AND HOME APPLICATIONS, AND THEN ADOPT THE ONE YEAR ACTION PLAN STAFF HAS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANKS, TONY.

ANY QUESTIONS? THE MAYOR'S PERMISSION, I'D LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION AND MR. CHUTE? SURE.

UH, JUST A SHOOT.

UH, I'M LOOKING AT, UH, MEALS ON WHEELS GREATER SAN DIEGO, UH, OH, I'M SORRY.

THE ONE BEFORE THAT.

INTERFAITH SHELTER NETWORK ROTATIONAL SHELTER PROGRAM, UH, FUNDED PRAYER $10,000.

COULD YOU, COULD YOU JUST TELL ME WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING? CAUSE I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT ONE.

SO GENERALLY THE INTERFAITH NETWORK IS A COLLECTION OF, OF UM, RELIGIOUS FACILITIES, UH, AND WHO USED THEIR HALLS AND, AND, UH, BUILDINGS ON THEIR PROPERTY TO HOUSE HOMELESS ON A ROTATIONAL PERIOD.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, OUR LADY OF GRACE, UM, IN FLETCHER HILLS WILL SHELTER OVER I BELIEVE A TWO MONTH PERIOD, UM, OR TWO WEEK PERIOD, EXCUSE ME.

UM, UP TO 20 INDIVIDUALS.

UM, AND THEN IN LEMON GROVE IT'LL, IT'LL GO TO ST JOHN ON THE CROSS.

UM, AND THEN OTHER RELIGIOUS FACILITIES AROUND EAST COUNTY.

OH, SO IT'S ACTUALLY OUTSIDE THE, SOME OF THOSE ARE OUTSIDE THE CITY OF OAKLAND, OUR PORTION AND JUST FUNDS FOR THE

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OKAY.

AND IS THAT THE ONLY ONE OR ARE THERE OTHER ONES? I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER SHELTERING NETWORKS, LIKE THE INTERFAITH ONE THERE MIGHT BE ABOUT, I'M JUST NOT AWARE OF IT.

I MEAN, I KNOW THAT OTHER CHURCHES ARE DOING OTHER THAN LET ME, LET ME ASK, UH, JAMIE, UM, OUR, UH, SENIOR MANAGEMENT ALIS OF THE HOUSING PROGRAM AND SHE CAN PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INSIGHT FORMATION INTERFACE INTERFACE SHELTER NETWORK HAS A CONTRACTS WITH MULTIPLE CHURCHES.

I DON'T HAVE THE LIST OF CHURCHES, BUT MOST OF THEM ARE OUTSIDE OF ALGON ONE CHURCH HERE IN ALCOHOL.

AND I CAN PROVIDE THAT LIST TO YOU IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IT LATER.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

AND MR KENDRICK THERE WITH THIS PROGRAM, THERE'S A FOCUS ON FAMILIES.

THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS THAT FAMILIES CAN FIND SHELTER.

SO IF THERE'S ACTUALLY OPPORTUNITIES TO VOLUNTEER TO SERVE MEALS AND THERE'S A LOT OF KIDS INVOLVED WITH THAT PROGRAM.

OKAY.

SOUNDS GREAT.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

ALL THE PUBLIC HEARINGS NOW.

OPEN AIR DRILL.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARD? YES SIR.

WE HAVE FIVE SPEAKERS.

THE FIRST ONE IS STELLA THE LUXURIOUS.

ALRIGHT.

WELCOME TO IT.

OH, GOOD EVENING.

HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I AM HERE AGAIN TODAY AND FIRST OF ALL THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR ONGOING SUPPORT.

AND WE ARE PROUD AND HONORED TO BE YOUR FAIR HOUSING PROVIDER.

UM, AND FAMILIAR FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING IS OUR GOAL.

UM, THIS YEAR WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ASSIST 409 RESIDENTS.

40% OF OUR CLIENTS ARE FROM ALCOHOLISM.

UM, MR MENTIONED NINE AND 9.02% WERE FROM LOW INCOME, BUT 88 POINT 51% WERE EXTREMELY LOW INCOME.

SO YOU CAN SEE THERE'S A HIGH NEED IN THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.

19 CLIENTS WERE HOMELESS AND UH, 154 WERE DISABLED.

218 WERE FEMALE HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD.

SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A, A NEEDS ASSESSMENT OF WHAT CLIENTELE WE'RE SERVING.

WE ALSO DO PREVENTION OF THE HOMELESSNESS, UH, EDUCATION AND OUTREACH.

AS MR YBARRA MENTIONED, WE PREVENTED THIS GENTLEMAN FROM NOT BEING EVICTED SO QUICKLY, SO HE WAS ABLE TO MEDIATE THAT.

UH, WE ALSO PROVIDE FOR HOUSING TESTING, WHICH IS A TOOL TO, UM, UH, FIRMLY FURTHER FOR HOUSING AND, AND TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY, UH, FAIR HOUSING FAIR HOUSING VIOLATIONS.

UM, IN ADDITION, WE ARE PROUDLY NOW AHEAD APPROVED AGENCY.

UH, WE'RE THE ONLY ONE IN THE ENTIRE AREA OF SAN DIEGO REGION.

AND WITH THAT, WE HAVE AN AFFILIATE WHO'S GOING TO ASSIST WITH HOME BUYING EDUCATION AND FINANCIAL LITERACY EDUCATION FOR OUR COMMUNITIES THAT ARE INTERESTED IN FIRST HOME TIME BUYER, WHICH I'M SURE THE CITY HAS A PROGRAM.

SO WE'LL BE CALLING THE CITY TO SEE WHAT THAT PROGRAM IS AVAILABLE SO WE CAN HAVE THE COMMUNITY ASSESS THAT AS WELL.

UM, AND THIS I JUST WANT TO SAY IN ADDITION, UM, WE ALSO REFER ALL OUR CLIENTS TO FOOD BANKS SHELTERS, WHICH YOU'RE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB IN PROVIDING SHELTERS AND ALSO LEGAL AID.

SO I JUST HERE TO REQUEST THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FIRST AND ALSO REQUESTS THE ONGOING SUPPORT FOR THIS YEAR, UM, THIS YEAR'S, UM, FAIR HOUSING PROGRAM.

SO THANK YOU.

AND DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, RECEIVE ANY QUESTIONS.

OH, THANK YOU.

AND THANKS FOR THE GOOD WORK YOU DO.

THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THAT, UM, PLEASURE AND HONOR TO WORK FOR THE RESIDENTS OF ALCOHOL.

EXCELLENT.

NEXT SPEAKER IS GENERRA QUIGLEY.

OKAY.

HI, HOW ARE YOU? WELCOME HONORABLE MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

MY NAME IS GENERIC QUIGLEY AND I REPRESENT MEALS ON WHEELS SAN DIEGO COUNTY, UM, BASED ON DEMOGRAPHIC AND OBSERVATIONAL DATA.

CURRENT CITY OF ALCOHOL AND SENIORS IN THE MEALS ON WHEELS PROGRAM ARE AT RISK FOR POOR DIET AND SOCIAL ISOLATION AND THE RELATED NEGATIVE HEALTH, EMOTIONAL AND ECONOMIC IMPACTS.

OUR SENIOR CLIENTS OFTEN EXPERIENCE LIMITED MOBILITY AND STRUGGLE TO CARRY OUT THE DAILY TASKS OF LIVING, INCLUDING SHOPPING FOR FOOD AND COOKING.

THE PROGRAMS HOME DELIVERY OF FRESH DAILY MEALS DIRECTLY ADDRESSES THESE BARRIERS.

REGULAR ACCESS TO FOOD AND SOCIAL VISITS, REDUCE HEALTHCARE SPENDING, IMPROVE HEALTH AND REDUCE THE LIKELIHOOD OF NURSING HOME USE IN TURN, REDUCING GOVERNMENT BENEFIT EXPENDITURES.

ALL MEAL DELIVERIES ARE ACCOMPANIED WITH DAILY SOCIAL VISITS AND WELLNESS AND SAFETY CHECKS BY A CARING VOLUNTEER AND OTHER REFERRALS TO PROVIDERS IF NECESSARY.

MEALS ON WHEELS.

SAN DIEGO COUNTY IS ONE OF THE ONLY ORGANIZATIONS THAT BELIEVES

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THAT INCLUDES WEEKENDS AND ALL HOLIDAYS, MEALS ON WHEELS.

SAN DIEGO COUNTY REQUESTS $15,000 FROM THE CDBG PROGRAM YOUR 2019 THE REQUESTED FUNDING IS FOR FOOD AND PACKAGING FOR 20,808 MEALS TO BE DELIVERED TO 125 UNDUPLICATED LOW INCOME HONED BALANCE, SENIORS LIVING IN THE CITY OF A HOME BASED ON DEMOGRAPHICS FROM THE LAST COMPLETED CDBG PROGRAM YEAR AND CURRENT ALCOHOL PROJECT ENROLLEES.

IT IS ANTICIPATED THAT 90 TO 95% WILL BE LOW TO MODERATE INCOME INDIVIDUALS.

LAST YEAR CDBG PROGRAM.

UM, THAT CONCLUDES ON JUNE 30TH OF THIS YEAR.

WE ALREADY HAVE UM, 74% OF OUR 126 UNDUPLICATED CLIENTS ANTICIPATING GOAL ATTAINMENT FOR THIS YEAR.

MEALS ON WHEELS GREATLY APPRECIATES THE COUNCIL'S 10 YEARS OF CONSECUTIVE SUPPORT.

THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF OUR WORK.

THE CONTINUED SUPPORT OF THESE FUNDS IS NEEDED IN ORDER TO REACH AND SERVE MORE SENIORS IN OKLAHOMA.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH EL CAHONE AND I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION IN THIS MATTER.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? PERHAPS? LET ME SEE ANY QUESTIONS I WANT TO TELL YOU.

I'M A BIG SUPPORTER OF MEALS ON WHEELS BECAUSE I WENT OUT A COUPLE OF TIMES AND IT'S A LOT MORE AS YOU AS YOU WELL KNOW, IT'S A LOT MORE THAN JUST FOOD.

UM, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GETTING THE MEALS REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO THE COMPANIONSHIP THAT THEY GET FROM THE PEOPLE DELIVERING THEM AND THE PEOPLE DELIVERING AND TAKE THE TIME TO SIT AND TALK TO THEM.

AND I SAW JUST HOW MUCH THESE SENIORS REALLY BRIGHTENED UP ON.

THESE PEOPLE CAN'T.

SO TO A QUESTION, ARE YOU, UM, ARE YOU FINDING THAT YOU HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS TO MEET THE NEEDS OF ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE REQUESTING SERVICE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR? MMM HMM.

I WOULD SAY NO.

UM, WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD IT AT ALL AND SO WHAT WE PROVIDE IS A SUBSIDIZED MEAL PROGRAM AND SO WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR MORE FUNDING TO HELP THOSE THAT CAN'T AFFORD IT AT ALL.

UM, WE NEVER TURN ANYBODY AWAY, BUT UM, IT'S, IT'S AN ONGOING, UM, STRUGGLE, STRUGGLE, YEAH.

TO BE ABLE TO, TO FEED EVERYBODY.

OKAY.

WELL I AM.

THANKS.

PLEASE GIVE UP AT LEAST MY THANKS TO EVERYBODY WHO'S DOING IT.

I APPRECIATE IT THERE.

THANK YOU.

AND A SMALL PLUG FOR THE CHAMPIONS WEEK COMING UP.

I HOPE YOU'LL, YOU'LL JOIN US.

I WILL BE SENDING AN INVITATION YOUR WAY SOON.

THAT'S WHEN WE HAVE LOCAL OFFICIALS AND LOCAL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE IN A POSITION OF RANK, UM, GO OUT AND DO, UM, A DELIVERY WITH US.

I WILL, YOU'LL BE HEARING FROM ME SOON.

THANK YOU.

THANKS CAROL WALTZ.

HI CAROL.

THIS IS MY MAIDEN VOYAGE, SO, OKAY, WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE GENTLE WITH YOU.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING, UM, ELDER HELP TO SHOW UP TONIGHT.

WE, UH, ARE VERY HONORED THAT THE CITY OF EL KAHAN STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED THAT WE GET FUNDING AND, UM, FOR OUR CARE COORDINATION PROGRAM.

AND THAT WILL INCLUDE AS SPECIFIED IN YOUR, UH, AGREEMENT THAT IT WOULD BE CASE MANAGEMENT, TRANSPORTATION AND REFERRALS.

UH, WE MAY BE NEW FOR SOME OF YOU, BUT ELDER HELP IS IN BEEN HELPING THE, UH, LOW INCOME SENIORS OF EL CAHONE ALMOST SINCE OUR BEGINNING IN 45 YEARS AGO.

UM, WE, UH, THEY, THEY, A LOT OF THEM LIKE TO A LOT OF OUR, THE ALCOHOL AND SENIORS GIVE US A CALL AND WE SPEND FROM 20 TO 30 MINUTES GIVING THEM ACCESS TO RESOURCES AND OTHER INFORMATION.

SO IT'S NOT JUST A QUICK, UH, TALK.

IT'S A REAL DISCUSSION THAT GOES ON.

BUT THEN THE OTHER PEOPLE LIKE OUR CARE COORDINATION SERVICE, WHICH IS VERY HANDS ON AND IT'S ONGOING AND IT'S PERSE.

THAT INCLUDES PERSONALIZED CARE MANAGEMENT AND IT CERTAINLY INCLUDES TRANSPORTATION.

IT ALSO INCLUDES FOR, ESPECIALLY FOR SENIORS WHO LIVE ALONE, WE HAVE A FRIENDLY VISITORS THAT COME AND TURN OUT TO BE A TRUE COMPANIONS.

THEY SHOW UP, UH, REGULARLY TO, TO SERVE AS SOMETHING LIKE A FRIEND.

UM, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE DO FOR SENIORS IS THAT ASIA TO THEM BECOMES A SUPPORTIVE MEMBER OF THE ELCA, ALCOHOL, UH, ELDER

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UM, WE CERTAINLY SUPPORT THEIR INDEPENDENCE BECAUSE WE SERVE SENIORS WHO WANT TO STAY LIVING IN THEIR HOMES AND WE HELP BRIDGE THE GAP FOR WHATEVER THEY NEED TO ALLOW THEM TO STAY THERE.

UM, WE HAVE SET GOALS TO, UH, THAT WE HAVE COMMITTED TO MEET FOR OUR ELKHORN SENIORS.

AND I'M GOING TO READ THOSE NUMBERS BASED ON OUR PAST YEAR.

WE, UH, INTEND TO SERVE 180 S UH, RESIDENTS OF EL CAHONE BY, UH, ADDRESSING THEIR PHONE CALLS AND THEIR NEEDS ON THE PHONE.

IN ADDITION, WE WANT TO, WE EXPECT TO SERVE 25 CARE COORDINATION SENIORS.

EACH OF THOSE CLIENTS RECEIVES CASE MANAGEMENT ALL YEAR.

WE'RE OPEN, WE SERVE THEM 365 DAYS A YEAR AND OUR VOLUNTEERS SHOW UP ABOUT EVERY WEEK.

SO WE ARE SO READY TO SERVE EL CAHONE AND WE APPRECIATE THE RECOMMENDATION AND HOPE THAT THE COUNCIL MOVES FORWARD WITH THE RECOMMENDATION.

AND THAT CONCLUDES MY TALK.

BUT DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ROGER HERE? ANY QUESTIONS? YES, I JUST WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU AND YOUR PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, UM, WHERE DID THE TIME GO? LIKE THE ACADEMY AWARDS, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE THOSE TIMES, LINGUIST, MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE A BAND THAT WOULD START UP.

NO, YOU DID GREAT.

WELL, THANK YOU.

AND, UH, WE'LL SEE YOU AGAIN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES.

YEAH.

CAROL.

THANK YOU.

UM, HOW DO SENIORS FIND YOU? I'M SORRY.

OH, GOOD QUESTION.

UM, WE DO A WHOLE LOT OF OUTREACH.

UH, OUR OUTREACH, WE HAVE AN OUTREACH MANAGER AND SHE, UM, TURNS UP AT 800 EVENTS A YEAR EITHER PUTTING OUT FLYERS OR GOING TO VOLUNTEER FAIRS.

THEY'RE GOING TO SENIOR FAIRS AND SOME OF IT'S WORD OF MOUTH, SOME OF IT'S ONLINE NOW, BUT WE HAVE A BIG OUTREACH AND I THINK, UM, A LOT OF THE OTHER AGENCIES WILL REFER PEOPLE TO ELDER HELP BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT WE DO.

AND BY THE WAY, WE DON'T CHARGE OUR SENIORS ANYTHING.

UH, WE ASK ANY SENIOR WHO'S CAPABLE TO GIVE US A DONATION.

BUT THE SERVICE, WE NEVER TURNED ANYONE AWAY BECAUSE OF COSTS.

BUT THAT'S A REALLY GREAT QUESTION.

AND WE CONTINUE, WE OPERATE WITH VOLUNTEERS AND SO WE CONTINUE TO ALWAYS SEEK A NEW POCKET OF SENIORS.

ARE VOLUNTEERS SINCE UM, YOU SAID THAT YOU OPERATE IN L CONE FOR 45 YEARS OR WHAT? ALMOST WE, I DON'T HAVE A RECORD OF EXACTLY WHAT WE SHOWED UP IN ALCOHOL.

THAT'S STILL QUITE A LONG TIME.

SO SINCE IT WAS YOUR FIRST TIME THIS YEAR ASKING FOR FUNDS, UM, YOU, YOU ASSISTED ELDERLY LAST YEAR WITHOUT RECEIVING THESE FUNDS.

UM, I GUESS CHIP QUESTION, WHY? YEAH.

AND THEN WHY 15,000? OH, WHY, WHY, WHY ARE YOU ASKING FOR FUNDS? THOUSAND? WE HAVE ASKED FOR FUNDS FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS AND WE HAVE BEEN DECLINED.

AT ONE POINT WE WERE WORKING ON A, UH, HOME-SHARE PROGRAM FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND I THINK WE WERE FUNDED FOR THAT FOR A BIT AND THEN WE LOST OUR FUNDING.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN ABOUT THREE YEARS THAT WE'VE GOT GOTTEN FUNDING.

AND WHY 15,000? UM, OUR BUDGET FOR CARE COORDINATION IS 882,000 A YEAR.

SO THIS IS A VERY SMALL, THAT OF COURSE INCLUDES ALL OF SAN DIEGO.

SO, UM, MOST OF OUR COST IS DELIVERING SERVICES AND MAINTAINING SERVICES AND MONITORING THE VOLUNTEERS THAT DELIVER THE SERVICES.

SO I THINK WE'VE BROKEN DOWN OUR BUDGET IN OUR, IN OUR PROPOSAL, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU MORE BREAKDOWN IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

NO, THAT'S OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THAT WAS PRETTY GOOD.

THANK YOU, CAROL.

THANKS.

THANK YOU.

HAROLD BROWN.

NICE MAYOR, COUNCIL STAFF.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT OF EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER, UH, 10 YEARS AS EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER.

AND THEN PRIOR TO THAT WE HAD ACTUALLY STARTED THIS PROGRAM BACK IN 2005 AND I WOULD THINK THAT WE HAVE PROBABLY BEEN ABLE TO ASSIST OVER 1500 FAMILIES IN THAT TIME

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IN 2017, 18 FUNDING CYCLE, WE HELP 92 FAMILIES, WHICH CONSISTED OF ABOUT 210 CHILDREN AND ABOUT 90 ADULTS, UH, 56 OF THOSE FAMILIES ENTERED INTO EITHER ONE INTO REUNIFICATION BACK WITH FAMILY OR INTO PERMANENT HOUSING.

61% WERE PUT BACK INTO, INTO PERMANENT HOUSING.

UH, 27 FAMILIES WENT INTO OUR LONGTERM PROGRAMS. UH, SEVEN FAMILIES WERE, WERE REFERRED TO OTHER PROGRAMS AND ONLY TWO FAMILIES, UH, WERE ASKED TO LEAVE.

SO A 98% SUCCESS RATE.

IT'S JUST AMAZING WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THERE WITH THESE FUNDS.

AND YOU KNOW, THESE FUNDS LASTS ABOUT FIVE MONTHS, FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS OF OUR CYCLE.

AND AS I SAID MANY YEARS AGO, WE GO OUT AND WE LOOK FOR THE OTHER FUNDS FOR THE REMAINING, UH, SIX, SEVEN MONTHS OF THE YEAR.

UH, THIS YEAR WE WERE ABLE TO GET $100,000, UH, FUNDED FROM, UH, UH, FOUNDATION.

AND, UH, THIS YEAR I'M LOOKING FOR ANOTHER A HUNDRED THOUSAND FROM ANOTHER FOUNDATIONS OF SUPPLEMENT THIS YEAR'S FUNDING SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE THIS PROGRAM ALL YEAR LONG.

WE DON'T EVER WANT TO TURN A FAMILY AWAY AND ACTUALLY WE WON'T TURN A FAMILY AWAY.

I WON'T LET A ROOM OPEN IF THEY, IF THERE'S NO MONEY, I'M STILL GONNA PUT THEM IN THERE.

THE OTHER COOL THING ABOUT IT IS, IS OVER THE 10, 12 YEARS OR 14 YEARS OF TIME THAT WE'VE BEEN FUNDING THIS PROGRAM, WE'VE NEVER INCREASED THE RATE.

UH, WE KIND OF SET THE THING UP BASED BACK IN 2005 ON WHAT A MOTEL ROOM COSTS PER NIGHT IN AND IT WAS $49 AND IT'S STILL $49.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU CAN GO FOR 15 YEARS AND NOT GET AN INCREASE, BUT YOU FOUND A PLACE.

UM, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, WHAT YOU'VE DONE ALSO WITH THE, UH, FUNDING FOR THE FANS TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THE KIDS SAFE.

UM, WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OUR SOCIETY, IN OUR COMMUNITY, IN OUR COUNTRIES.

UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A SHAME THAT I'VE GOT TO PUT FENCES UP TO TRY TO, TO KEEP THOSE AWAY.

BUT I HAVE A LOT OF SINGLE MOMS WITH KIDS THAT ARE, HAVE A RESTRAINING ORDERS AGAINST ABUSIVE, ABUSIVE SPOUSES, ABUSIVE PARTNERS.

UM, AND WE'RE CONCERNED, UH, WE'RE CONCERNED FOR OUR KIDS.

UH, WE DON'T WANT SOMEBODY COMING INTO THE PROGRAM.

IT SHOULDN'T BE IN THE PROGRAM AND SNATCHING UP A KID AND RUNNING AWAY.

THANK GOD IT HASN'T HAPPENED.

UM, WE DO PROVIDE SECURITY, UH, 24 HOURS A DAY AROUND, BUT THE FENCE IS GONNA HELP A LOT.

UM, KIDS PLAY AROUND THERE, THEY PLAY OUT IN THE PLAYGROUND AND THEY PLAY ON THE PARKING LOTS.

AND, UH, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

UH, WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET THE FUNDING, I HOPE FROM OTHER SOURCES THAT, UH, WE, WE ASKED FOR SO MUCH FOR IT AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO FUND SOME OF IT AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SO ANY QUESTIONS REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS.

BOB.

THANK YOU, HAROLD FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.

AND UH, I, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE COULDN'T GIVE YOU THE FULL $50,000 FOR THE FENCE AND MAYBE TAKE SOME OF IT AWAY FROM OUR, UH, PEDESTRIAN RAMPS, UH, WHICH, WELL, THE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PLENTY OF MONEY FOR THAT 225,000 FOR WOULD BE ENOUGH FOR THE RAMPS AND WE COULD GIVE THEM 50,000 FOR THE FENCING.

I, I AGREE WITH YOU BOB.

THE PROBLEM IS THAT IT'S BEEN DETERMINED THAT THE PORTION ARE, WE WERE PAYING FOR THE NONRELIGIOUS PORTION, WHICH WE'RE ALLOWED TO GET INVOLVED WITH.

UM, ANYTHING PAST THAT GOES OVER INTO THE PAYING FOR RELIGIOUS SERVICES, WHICH WE AS A CITY CAN'T DO.

I'VE NEVER SEEN A FENCE GO TO CHURCH.

YEAH, YOU DON'T GRAB, IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN HOW WE GOT DETERMINE THAT.

I MEAN CERTAINLY AS, AS YOU KNOW, HOW THE PROPERTY OPERATES THERE, THERE IS A RELIGIOUS COMPONENT AND THAT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY GEOGRAPHICALLY, UH, SEPARATED FROM EACH OTHER.

WE BELIEVE THAT HUD WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM AND HAVING US USE FEDERAL FUNDS TO PUT A FENCE IN FRONT OF BOTH COMPONENTS.

SO WE THINK THAT WE CAN GET AWAY WITH FUNDING A PORTION OF THE FENCE, THE PORTION THAT IS IN FRONT OF THE NONRELIGIOUS COMPONENT, BUT EXTENDING IT ALONG THE ENTIRE PROPERTY LINE WOULD LIKELY VIOLATE OUR HUD REGULATIONS.

WELL, I THINK THAT, UH, UNDER THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION, UH, THAT THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT, LIKE THEY WERE IN THE PREVIOUS ONE AND UH, WE'VE JUST NEVER TESTED IT.

UH, YEAH, AS, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE GOT, UH, A GROUP OF FOLKS IN ALCOHOL AND THAT ARE, UM, REGULARLY SUING US ARE COMPLAINING THE HOT ABOUT THAT AND OH, IT PROBABLY, I THINK THE POINT IS THAT YOU PUT THE ENTIRE, PUT THE ENTIRETY OF, OF US HELPING THEM AT ALL AT RISK.

IF WE GET, UH, GET SUED, IT MIGHT BE TIME TO TAKE IT TO THE MAT.

NO, I HEAR YOU.

I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I, AND I TOTALLY, I AGREE WITH IT.

I THINK IT'S SILLY THAT WE CAN'T HELP SOMEBODY THAT WHO'S, WHO'S HELPING PEOPLE THAT ARE HOMELESS.

BUT I DO, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT PUTTING THE ENTIRE PROGRAM AT RISK AND HAVING THEM TAKE EVERYTHING.

I BET JAY SEKULOW'S ORGANIZATION WOULD DO THE LEGAL WORK

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IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING WORTH LOOKING INTO.

WELL, I THINK HE'S AGREED TO, UH, FOR SOME ISSUE THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S YOURS, HAROLD, AND DID I TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT? YEAH, WE CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANT TO JEOPARDIZE THE ENTIRE PROGRAM FOR, AND WE ARE THREE OUR HOURS OFFENSE PAY FOR $100,000.

AND UM, IT'S FUNNY, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT STAFF MADE WORKING WITH, UM, MY STAFF TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT PART OF IT WE COULD FENCE.

UM, IT DOES REQUIRE PREVAILING WAGE.

UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, BIDS THAT WE GOT TO DO THE WHOLE FENCE, UM, WOULD, WOULD ALMOST BE $25,000 IF WE DIDN'T USE THE PREVAILING WAGE SIDE.

AND SO THE PART THAT'S GOING TO BE LEFTOVER, UM, BOB, I THINK, I THINK WE CAN GET IT DONE.

UM, AND MAYBE THIS ISN'T THE TIME TO DO THIS, BUT, UH, I, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS THAT, UH, BOTH, UH, UH, DIRECTOR, UH, SOOTY MADE AND JAMIE WITH, WITH OUR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT WE COULD GET DONE WITHOUT CAUSING ANY PROBLEMS. AND YEAH, IT JUST, I JUST KNOW BERGEN'S B BEEN HANKERING TO GO TO THE U S SUPREME COURT.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR PASTOR.

OH, A HOLD ON ONE BILL.

HAROLD, I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO.

AS YOU KNOW, UH, I'VE HAD ALWAYS TWO PEOPLE GRADUATE FROM YOUR PROGRAM STAYING AT MY HOUSE OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS AND THEY WORKED OUT WONDERFULLY AND YOU MOVE ON TO BETTER THINGS WHEN THEY, YOU KNOW, AS THEY MAKE MORE MONEY AND CAN MOVE UP IN THEIR LIFE.

BUT, UH, I'VE BEEN VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME OUT OF YOUR PROGRAM THAT HAVE STAYED AT MY HOUSE.

APPRECIATE YOUR HELP IN DOING THAT.

AND, UH, I KNOW WE'RE ON TV, SO, UH, I GIVE A LITTLE SHAMELESS PLUG FOR ANYBODY ELSE WHO MIGHT HAVE A ROOM THAT'S OPEN, UH, THAT THEY'D LIKE TO RENT OUT TO ONE OF OUR GRADUATES OR, OR ONE OF OUR FAMILIES.

PLEASE CONTACT US.

AND, UH, WE, WE CAN, WE CAN PROVIDE WITH, UH, AN INDIVIDUAL OR A FAMILY THAT ARE, UH, SUBSTANCE FREE.

UM, THEY'VE BEEN, THEY'VE BEEN PAYING THEIR RENTS ON TIME AND PAYING THEIR FEES ON TIME FOR A LONG TIME AND THEY'LL BE GREAT TENANTS.

AND, UH, JUST TO ADD TO THAT, I'VE USED A NUMBER OF YOUR FOLKS FOR DIFFERENT PROJECTS FOR THIS AND THAT AND THE OTHER THING AND THEY'VE BEEN FANTASTIC PEOPLE AND, UH, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THEM IN MY HOUSE, BUT, UH, I'D HAVE TO HAVE, I'D HAVE TO TALK TO THE WAR DEPARTMENT ABOUT THAT.

AND I THINK THE WAR DEPARTMENT MIGHT BE A LITTLE HESITANT.

THANK YOU GUYS.

THANKS.

.

OKAY.

OUR LAST SPEAKER IS CATHERINE FRASER.

I WALK THEM.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR.

MY NAME IS KATHERINE FRASER AND I'M THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AT CRISIS HOUSE.

I'M HERE WITH THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR MARY CASE.

UM, AND I'M SO PROUD, FIRST OF ALL, TO, UH, ACKNOWLEDGE THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE WITH THE CITY OF EL CAHONE AND ALL THAT YOU'VE HELPED US DO TO IMPROVE THE LIVES OF BOTH THE INDIGENT AND THE ON HOUSED IN THIS COMMUNITY.

YOU'VE HELPED US TO ACHIEVE SO MANY SUCCESSES IN THE PAST YEAR AND WE VALUE YOUR GUIDANCE AND SUPPORT AS WE CONTINUE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF BOTH THE CITY AND THE ENTIRE REGION.

WE ARE AWARE THAT THE CDBG FUNDING FOR CRISIS HOUSE HAS NOT BEEN RECOMMENDED WITH REGARD TO THE CURRENT APPLICATION.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE JUST RECEIVED A BED FOR A LOWER COST THAT CAME IN AT 48,500, WHICH WE HOPE WILL ALLOW YOU TO RECONSIDER.

AND, UM, I HOPE THAT YOU KNOW, THAT RECEIVING CDB G FUNDING ANNUALLY FOR OUR ORGANIZATION IS REALLY CRITICAL TO OUR SUCCESS.

OH, YOU DO? GOOD WORK.

LET ME SEE IF ANY QUESTIONS.

UH, NO.

WHEN WE GET TO, UH, YOUR, UH, REQUESTS, WE MAY ASK YOU TO COME BACK.

UH, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL CERTAINLY TAKE UP THE REQUEST.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANKS.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO MORE SPEAKERS, SIR.

I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

ALL RIGHT.

FIRST THINGS FIRST.

UH, GRAHAM, UM, IF WE WERE INCLINED TO TAKE UP THE CRISIS HOUSE REQUEST OF, UH, $48,500, IS THERE A PLAN FOR THAT? SO I'LL, I'LL LET YOU KNOW.

THE REASON WHY WE ACTUALLY INITIALLY, UM, RECOMMENDED AGAINST THE, THE EXPENDITURE WHEN WE THOUGHT THE 80,000 OR $72,000

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UM, WITH A, WITH A REVISED BID OF $48,000, IT GETS MORE REASONABLE.

BUT THAT'S A QUESTION THAT COUNCIL IS GOING TO HAVE TO ASK.

IS THAT WORTH THE INVESTMENT? IF THE COUNCIL WANTED TO DO SO, WE WOULD RECOMMEND TAKING IT OUT OF, UM, THE PUBLIC WORKS ADA RAMP PROGRAM.

UM, BUT AS A REMINDER, WE'RE ALREADY FUNDING AT AT $70,000 LESS THAN LAST YEAR, WHICH IS 22% REDUCTION.

SO, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE MOST LIKELY PLACE WHERE WE WOULD RECOMMEND TAKING THAT FUNDING FROM.

THEY ONLY LAST FOR 19,000.

SORRY, THEY ONLY ASKED FOR 19,000.

WHO DID CRISIS HOUSE? ACTUALLY THEY WANT A 48,500.

WELL, THE REQUEST SHOWS THAT THEY ASKED FOR 19.

OH, THAT WAS FUNDED LAST YEAR.

I SEE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

ACTUALLY WHAT THEY REQUESTED WAS 72,293 BUT STAFF DETERMINED THAT THAT WAS PROBABLY EXCESSIVE.

AND I THINK THAT THE, UH, THE COMPROMISE A 48,500 SEEMS REASONABLE TO ME.

BUT, UH, UH, GRAHAM, YOU SAID THAT THE BUILDING WAS AT THE END OF ITS USEFUL LIFE.

WELL, IT'S GETTING NEAR THE END.

IF YOU WERE TO TOUR IT, UM, YOU WOULD SEE THAT THERE ARE STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS, JUST, IT PROBABLY EITHER NEEDS A SIGNIFICANT REHAB OR PERHAPS A DIFFERENT LOCATION.

SO AT SOME POINT IT HURTS TO PUT GOOD MONEY INTO A, A BAD BUILDING.

BUT AT AT THE $70,000 RATE, I WOULD RECOMMEND AGAINST IT.

BUT AS WE GET THAT BELOW 50,000 MAYBE IT MAKES MORE SENSE.

IT'S A CALL FOR THE CITY COUNCIL KNOW THAT BUILDING DOES BELONG TO THE CITY.

CORRECT.

THAT'S OUR BUILDING.

YEAH.

AND IN FACT, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE MADE THE REQUEST, REALLY IT'S OUR EXPENDITURE BECAUSE IT'S OUR BUILDING SO.

RIGHT.

SO BOB, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT PUTTING THE 48,500 INTO IT? I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.

UM, SO A NEGATIVE ELLA RAMS. YEAH, I'M I, I WOULD THINK SO TOO.

ANY OTHER OBJECTIONS? I'M, I'M OKAY WITH IT.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S SEE IF THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY OTHER CHANGES THAT ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE.

ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS FOR CHANGES OR DO YOU WANT TO GO STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS? MY ONLY REQUEST WAS THE 50,000 FOR THE, AND I GOT OVERRULED ON THAT.

I GUESS.

WELL, LOOK, I, THERE'S REALLY NOT A MORE SUCCESSFUL PROGRAM IN THE ENTIRE REGION.

I KNOW THAN I WOULD GIVE THEM AS MUCH MONEY AS WE POSSIBLY COULD, BUT I DON'T WANT TO ADD FUEL TO THE FIRE THAT PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE US SUED.

SO I, I, I WOULD TAKE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

I HEAR YA.

UM, GARY, ANYTHING, BEN? ANYTHING THEN? YEAH, SO, UM, PERHAPS THE YOUNG LADY CAN COME BACK UP.

SO SINCE THE, UM, YOU SUBMITTED A REVISED BID FOR 48,000, DID YOU GO WITH A DIFFERENT CONTRACTOR OR DID YOU REMOVE SOME ITEMS THAT YOU INITIALLY THOUGHT NEEDED REPAIR? HOW DID YOU SAVE THE ALMOST 30 GRAND? SO WHAT WE DID WHEN WE WERE PREPARING THE APPLICATION WAS WE ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO THREE SEPARATE CONTRACTORS.

THE FIRST BID THAT WE HAD WAS EXTREMELY LOW.

UM, IT WAS AROUND $26,000, AND IT SEEMED TO NOT REALLY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, UM, DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE WOULD BE, UM, REQUIRED TO DO LIKE PREVAILING WAGE.

THEN WE GOT ANOTHER BED THAT WAS $176,000.

UM, THE THIRD BADE, ACTUALLY WE, WE WEREN'T HEARING BACK FROM THE CONTRACTOR.

SO WE DECIDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE APPLICATION TO SUBMIT SOMETHING IN BETWEEN THOSE TWO FIRST BIDS.

AND THEN, UH, ACTUALLY JUST TODAY GOT THAT THIRD BID IN, WHICH WAS THE 48,500.

SO $20,000 WOULDN'T HELP YOU.

WE DON'T THINK THAT THAT BED WAS REALLY TAKING INTO ACCOUNT WHAT NOT THE 26TH, I'M NOT EVEN COUNTING THAT.

I GUESS I'M PLAYING LIKE THAT SHOW, PAWN SHOP, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY GO IN, THEY TRY TO SELL SOMETHING HE'S LIKE, SO, SO I ONLY SAY THAT BECAUSE IT'S TOO, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU BUT TO, TO MOVE AROUND FROM A, FROM THE ADA, THE RENT, THE RAMPS AND SIDEWALKS.

ALTHOUGH WE COULD TH THAT'S, I WOULD SAY LIKE MORE IMPORTANT.

UM, IT, IT IS TO ME.

BUT, UM, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS MAYBE IF YOU, UM, THAT'S WHY I SAID WITH $20,000, LIKE, WHAT'S, WHAT IS THE NUMBER OF THAT THAT COULD REVAMP THE BUILDING TO WHERE IT'S USED.

IT'S USABLE AND IT'S FINE FOR LIKE UNTIL NEXT YEAR TO WHERE YOU CAN ASK AGAIN BECAUSE, UM, THINGS LIKE ADA

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SO IN THE BUILDING THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, THE, UM, WINDOWS DON'T ACTUALLY PROVIDE US WITH VENTILATION AND EVERYONE HAS TOLD US THAT THE HVAC SYSTEM IS REALLY ON ITS LAST LEG.

UM, I COULD REALLY GO OUT AT ANY TIME.

SO FOR US TO NOT HAVE THAT IN WORKING ORDER WOULD BE PRETTY DETRIMENTAL TO THE FUNCTIONING OF OUR DAY TO DAY OFFICE ACTIVITIES.

UM, AND WE DO SEE, YOU KNOW, QUITE A FEW PEOPLE CLIENTS EACH DAY, UH, IN THE LOBBY AND THAT ALREADY NEEDS A PRETTY HIGH AC GOING THROUGH THERE.

SO, UM, ANY DOLLAR AMOUNT HELPS US IMPROVE OUR MISSION, BUT, UM, TO, I DON'T THINK $20,000 WOULD HELP US WITH THIS ISSUE SPECIFICALLY.

FAIR ENOUGH.

AND SO A GRAM, IF THIS BUILDING IS, UH, OWNED BY THE CITY AND THE HVAC GOES OUT TOMORROW, UM, WOULD, WOULD WE BE, WOULD WE HAVE, IT'S THEIR EXPENSES.

WHAT I HEARD, I SEE.

AND, UH, THEIR, THEIR LEASE AGREEMENT IS, OR THEIR AGREEMENT IS FOR HOW LONG? PROBABLY 50 YEARS.

I THINK.

WE JUST DON'T, I'M NOT SURE WHAT IT IS.

IT'S A VERY NOMINAL RENT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT PART.

AND PLUS THEY'RE GETTING A SHARE OF THEIR RENT OF THE, UM, WIRELESS COMMUNICATION FIELD FACILITIES ON THERE TOO.

THAT'S HOW THE CITY HELPS OUT OPERATIONS AS WELL.

BUT, BUT SO THAT THE, I SAY THAT TO SAY THAT WE 2021 IS THE CURRENT LONGTERM LEASE.

THAT'S WHEN IT EXPIRES.

SO IT'S NOT REALLY LONGTERM.

NO.

OKAY.

SO, OKAY.

UH, THEN WOULD, THAT COULD BE A CONDITION THEN TO RENEW THE LEASE TO DO THE HVAC DURING THAT TIME IF YOU KNOW, IF IT LASTS.

I JUST, I JUST, WHILE I AGREE WITH EVERY, EVERY EVERYTHING EVERYBODY SAID ABOUT WHAT YOU GUYS ALL DO, I JUST WISH THERE'S MORE.

I WOULD, I WOULD TAKE IT FROM WELLS PARK BEFORE I TAKE IT FROM CURBS, RAM SIDEWALKS IN ADA, JUST SO YOU KNOW.

BUT, UM, I JUST WANTED TO GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING, UH, OF WHAT THE MONEY WAS USED FOR AND THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.

AND NOW KNOWING MORE ABOUT THE LEASE, I WOULD SAY BECAUSE THE CITY OWNS THE BUILDING, IT HAS A VESTED INTEREST IN RETAINING THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE OF THAT PLACE.

AND THAT COULD BE SOMETHING TO REVISIT THEN.

UM, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT WORKS NOW.