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[ CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Bill Wells]

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GOOD AFTERNOON.

WELCOME TO THE HONG KONG CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

THE MEETING IS NOW CALLED THE ORDER.

I WANT TO ASK THE CITY CLERK TO CALL THE ROLE.

ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

UM, WOULD YOU ALL STAND WITH ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? REMAIN STANDING FOR A BRIEF MOMENT OF SILENCE AND DYLAN GARCIA IS HERE FROM AT YOUR, HERE ARE YOUR TEEN COALITION COALITION.

ALRIGHT.

DAWN, WOULD YOU LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE? PLEASE? READY BEGIN.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

YOU MAY BE SEATED.

THANK YOU.

[ POSTINGS: The City Clerk posted Orders of Adjournment of the January 22, 2019, Meetings and the Agenda of the February 12, 2019, Meeting in accordance to State Law and Council/Authority/Successor Agency to the Redevelopment Agency Policy.]

THE CITY CLERK POSTED ORDERS OF A GERMAN OF THE JANUARY 22ND, 2019 MEETINGS AND THE AGENDA OF THE FEBRUARY 12TH, 2019 MEETING IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY POLICY.

[ PRESENTATIONS: Presentation: Teen Coalition Update ]

WE HAVE A PRESENTATION TODAY ON TODAY'S AGENDA FOR AN UPDATE ON TEEN COALITION.

I'D LIKE TO INVITE RECREATION SERVICES SUPERVISOR, SUSIE LO IF I'M ALLOWED, WHO TO TO TELL US ABOUT THIS.

HI, WELCOME.

THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS SUSIE LOWE WITH THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

AND I'M HERE TODAY TO INTRODUCE OUR NEW 2018 19 UM, GROUP OF TEEN COLD MEMBERS AS WELL AS I'M INTRODUCING OUR NEW STAFF LIAISON FOR THE TEEN COALITION, MILO LATU.

AND JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, THE TEEN COALITION.

UM, APPLICATIONS FOR THE 2018 19 TERM ARE ACCEPTED IN LATE 2018 AND THOSE APPLICANTS THAT EITHER RESIDE IN OR ATTEND A MIDDLE SCHOOL OR HIGH SCHOOL WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS OF EL CAHONE, WE'RE INVITED TO INTERVIEW.

WE RECEIVED NINE APPLICATIONS AND ALL WERE SELECTED TO SERVE THIS YEAR.

SO AT THIS POINT I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO OUR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR, OUR CHAIR ALVIN AND VICE CHAIR DYLAN GARCIA.

TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TEEN COALITION.

AND THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE OF OTHER MEMBERS WITH US TODAY.

NOT EVERYBODY WAS ABLE TO GET HERE THEIR BUSY LIVES OF TEENAGERS AND DOING EXTRACURRICULAR ACTIVITIES, BUT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR CHAIR AND OUR VICE CHAIR AND THEY'LL LET YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING THIS YEAR.

THANK YOU.

CZ.

UH, THE CITY OF ALCOHOL AND TEEN COALITION IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE A PART OF THE GROUP THAT WILL DEVELOP SKILLS AND LEADERSHIP, LEARN ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY, DISCUSS IMPORTANT ISSUES REGARDING TEENS AND BECOME INVOLVED IN COMMUNITY SERVICE.

THE TEEN COALITION WILL MEET EACH MONTH AT RONETTE PARK COMMUNITY CENTER.

CALENDAR OF EVENTS INCLUDE PARTICIPATION IN THE TEAM BUILDING ACTIVITY AND TOUR OF THE WEEK, HORST AND NAZI MUSEUM.

A GUEST APPEARANCE ON .

MORNING NEWS WITNESS LOCAL GOVERNMENT INACTION AT THE FEBRUARY CITY COUNCIL MEETING, SEMINARS AND TRAINING ON THE LOCAL ECONOMY, CITY OF ALCOHOL'S ANNUAL DANCE RECITAL, AUGUST MOVIES IN THE PARK AT ROADNET PARK ALCOHOLS LIBRARY FIESTA AND HAN FEST AND AMERICAN MAIN STREET.

AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE STILLING OUR CEO, OUR VICE CHAIR.

THANK YOU ALVIN.

UM, THE CITY OF TEEN COALITION WILL ALSO BE CONTINUING TO SPONSOR IT'S ANNUAL YOUTH OF THE YEAR AWARD AS WE CONTINUE TO PUT A SPOTLIGHT ON THOSE YOUTH WHO STRIVE IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

UH, THE TIN COALITION APPLICATION, UM, REQUESTED REMARKS REGARDING PERCEIVED ISSUES THAT TEENS FACE IN THEIR COMMUNITY AS WELL AND SAFE ACTIVITIES FOR TEENS, SPECIFICALLY CULTURAL AND ART BASED ACTIVITIES AS WELL AS JOB OPPORTUNITIES WHERE CHIEF AMONG THESE RESPONSES, THE TIN COALITION IS DEVELOPING ACTIVITIES AND PROJECTS THAT WILL HELP TO RESPOND TO THESE ISSUES.

AND WE WILL, WE FINISHING OFF OUR YEAR WITH THE COMMUNITY SERVICE PROJECT FROM MAY THROUGH AUGUST.

I WOULD NOW LIKE TO UM, GIVE IT OVER TO OUR OTHER MEMBERS AS THEY CAN INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND DISCUSS WHY THEY JOINED TIN COLLISION.

MY NAME IS BLAKE BLUE.

I AM A JUNIOR AT GRANITE HILLS HIGH SCHOOL AND THIS IS MY SECOND YEAR IN TEEN COALITION.

AND THE REASON I JOINED TEEN COALITION IS BECAUSE I LOVE THIS CITY AND I WANTED TO DO WHATEVER I COULD TO HELP MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN IT.

AND I FELT THIS WOULD BE A GREAT WAY TO DO SO.

AND OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS I'VE REALIZED THAT IT IS AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE.

THANK YOU.

UM, MY NAME IS PRECIOUS CLL.

I'M A JUNIOR AT GROSSMONT.

I'VE BEEN A PART OF IT FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS AND IT'S BEEN A GREAT WAY TO BE INVOLVED WITH MY FELLOW TEENS

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IN THE COMMUNITY.

MY NAME IS BIANCA MARGO AND I'M A SOPHOMORE AT VALHALLA HIGH SCHOOL.

THIS IS NOW MY SECOND YEAR AT TEEN COALITION AND I'M NOW THE SECRETARY OF THIS GROUP.

I JOINED TEEN COALITION BECAUSE I REALLY WANT TO GIVE BACK TO MY COMMUNITY AND I ALSO WANTED TO HELP OTHERS ENGAGE IN COMMUNITY EVENTS.

WONDERFUL.

SO AGAIN, THANK YOU MAYOR AND I ACTUALLY HAVE TO APPLAUD THIS GROUP.

UH, WE WENT ON QSI GOSH, BACK IN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER AND IT WAS A LITTLE NERVE WRACKING BEING ON CAMERA, BUT THEY JUST DID AN AMAZING JOB EXPLAINING WHAT TEEN COALITION DOES AND, AND RECRUITING MEMBERS THIS YEAR.

AND, UM, I'VE BEEN WITH THIS GROUP FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS AND IT'S BEEN AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE FOR ME, BUT THEY HAVE A GOOD NEW LEADER AND SO I, UM, THEY'RE JUST AN AMAZING GROUP THAT DOES AN AMAZING WORK THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

SO ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH.

ARE COUNSELING.

ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, GARY, JUST A COMMENT.

I WANTED TO SIT THAT ALL OF YOU ARE VERY WELL SPOKEN.

I COULDN'T HAVE SPOKEN PUBLIC LIKE ALL OF YOU HAVE WHEN I WAS YOUR AGE.

SO IT'S A HUGE ADVANTAGE FOR YOU AND HAVING THE TEEN COALITION, UH, ON YOUR RESUME WHEN YOU APPLY FOR COLLEGE ADMISSION CAN HELP.

MY, MY SON WAS ON THE TEEN COALITION WHEN HE'S 11 YEARS OLD AND I THINK IT HELPED HIM GET INTO UCLA.

SO THAT AND THAT LED TO A GREAT CAREER FOR HIM.

YEAH.

THAT AND YOUR GRADES.

THANKS SO VERY MUCH.

AND ALL YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE VOLUNTEERING FOR THE CITY.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

[ AGENDA CHANGES:]

THAT BRINGS US TO AGENDA CHANGES.

STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANY AGENDA CHANGES, MR MAYOR? NO CHANGES TO THE AGENDA.

COUNCIL, ANY AGENDA CHANGES THAT BRINGS

[7. CONSENT ITEMS: Consent Items are routine matters enacted by one motion according to the RECOMMENDATION listed below. With the concurrence of the City Council, a Council Member or person in attendance may request discussion of a Consent Item at this time. ]

US TO CONSENT ITEMS, CONSENT OR ROUTINE MATTERS AND ACTED BY ONE MOTION ACCORDING TO THE RECOMMENDATION LISTED BELOW WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, A COUNCIL MEMBER OR PERSON AND THE TENANTS MAY REQUEST.

DISCUSSION OF A CONSENT ITEM AT THIS TIME.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO YOU WISH TO PULL ANY CONSENT ITEMS? MR GOBLE? ITEM FOUR STAFF, JEWISH PUBLIC SET ITEMS? NO SIR.

ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT ITEM FOUR FIRST.

OH, I'M SORRY.

YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT.

WERE THERE ANY, UM, ANY SPIRIT CARDS FOR OR NO CARDS? STEVE, WOULD YOU TELL US ABOUT ITEM FOUR? I DIDN'T.

I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

UH, MENTIONS THAT THERE'S AN ADVANTAGE TO DOING MULTIYEAR CONTRACT, THAT THERE'D BE A SAVINGS BY DOING IT MULTI-YEARS VERSUS SINGLE YEAR AT A TIME.

I DIDN'T SEE THE SAVINGS IN THE BACKUP.

CAN YOU GIVE US A SENSE OF WHAT THAT MIGHT BE? CERTAINLY THERE'S SEVERAL WAYS THAT THE SAVINGS WILL BE GENERATED AND I'M GOING TO ASK OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR DIRK APPERSON TO EXPLAIN OUR CALCULATIONS.

WELCOME.

THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYBODY.

UH, THIS IS AN EXCELLENT QUESTION AND IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT, UH, WHY WE DO THINGS LIKE THIS.

SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS WHY ARE WE DOING A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT VERSUS A SINGLE ONE YEAR CONTRACT? AND THERE'S SEVERAL ADVANTAGES TO THIS.

FIRST OF ALL, THERE IS AN, UH, AN OVERALL SAVINGS OF, OF ALMOST $80,000, UM, THAT WE'RE ABLE TO PROJECT.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS YEAR AFTER YEAR, WE'VE BEEN SEEING AN INCREASE IN THE PRICE FOR THE SLURRY THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING.

IT'S BEEN GOING UP FIVE AND A HALF TO 5.8% ANNUALLY.

SO WITH THIS FIVE YEAR CONTRACT, WE WERE ABLE TO LOCK IN 2% ANNUAL ESCALATION IF THE OIL INDEX REACHES THE 2%.

SO WE'VE KEPT IT AT 2% RATHER THAN THE 5.5 THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING.

SO THAT EQUATES TO ABOUT $80,000 OVER UM, OVER ABOUT FIVE YEARS.

THERE'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT'S HARD TO CALCULATE, BUT IT'S ALSO THE STAFF TIME OF REBIDDING A CONTRACT YEAR AFTER YEAR.

THERE'S ADVANTAGES TO DOING A FIVE-YEAR SINGLE CONTRACT AND UH, BEING ABLE TO DO THAT, IT ALLOWS US ALSO TO BE NIMBLE WITH OUR CONTRACTS.

WHEN WE GET GRANT FUNDS THAT COME IN, WE'RE ABLE TO APPLY THEM IMMEDIATELY TO A CONTRACT THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE VERSUS HAVING TO GO OUT AND BID WITH AN, AND THIS ALSO IS ATTRACTING MORE BITTERS THAT WE HAVE A THAN WE'VE SEEN BEFORE.

WE'VE AVERAGED ABOUT TWO OR THREE.

THIS ONE BROUGHT IN FOUR BITTERS BECAUSE IT WAS A LARGER PIECE OF THE PIE, SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET, UM, UH, SOME MORE ATTRACTS MORE BITTERS, WHICH IS ALWAYS GOOD TOO.

IT MAKES SENSE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANKS, TURK.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

UM, WELL,

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WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND, UH, START WITH THE BEFORE THEN IF YOU LET ME MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE ITEM FOUR.

MOVING THE SECOND EYE, PLEASE.

VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

THEN I MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE THE REMAINDER OF THE CONSENT ITEMS. MOVE THE SECOND AND PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

THE NEXT ITEM UP IS PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME VISITING YOUNG PEOPLE FROM HIGH SCHOOL.

IS THAT WHAT HIGH SCHOOL YOU GUYS FROM ALL? ALRIGHT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO BOB MCCALL AND THEN YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO WHAT HE SAYS.

GOOD AFTERNOON, HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.

UH, I'M GOING TO INVITE YOU ALL UP TO WHERE THE SPEAKERS SPEAK, UH, HERE IN THE FRONT TO NAME YOUR, UM, OF COURSE WE ASSUME YOU'RE ALL SENIORS AND YOU'RE ALL FROM VALHALLA.

SO WE LIKE TO KNOW, UM, WHAT YOU WANT TO DO AFTER YOU GRADUATE, WHAT COLLEGE YOU WANT TO GO TO AND UH, OR WHAT YOUR OCCUPATION IS GOING TO BE WHEN YOU GRADUATE FROM THAT COLLEGE.

SO, UH, NO EXCEPTIONS.

EVERYBODY HAS TO COME UP.

YOUR TEACHER WILL BE WATCHING YOU AND YOU'LL BE GRADED UPON YOUR ANSWERS.

SO, UH, COME ON DOWN.

DON'T BE, DON'T BE SHY.

THIS IS A, A REQUIRED EVENT.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS ALEX.

UM, MY OCCUPATION THAT I WANT TO PURSUE IS IN AUTO MECHANICS.

HOPEFULLY GO TO UTI.

COULD YOU SAY THAT AGAIN WE AND PULL THE MICROPHONE A LITTLE CLOSER OR SPEAK A LITTLE LOUDER.

MY NAME IS ALEX.

UM, MY OCCUPATION I WANT TO PURSUE AS AN AUTO MECHANICS AND HOPEFULLY JOIN THE UNIVERSITY OF UTI.

VERY GOOD.

THAT'S A GOOD.

UH, I USED TO BE AN AUTOMOBILE BUSINESS, SO THAT'S A GOOD OCCUPATION.

THANK YOU.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS .

UH, I'M INTERESTED IN STUDYING SOMETHING RELATED TO PSYCHOLOGY, POSSIBLY FORENSIC PSYCHOLOGY AND HOPEFULLY I SDSU OR SAN MARCOS.

VERY GOOD.

MY NAME IS DYLAN AND I WANT TO PURSUE MUSIC AND I'M GOING TO GO TO KOREA.

MAC AFTER HIGH SCHOOL.

GOOD.

HI, MY NAME'S NATALIE .

UM, HOPEFULLY I WILL BE GOING TO SDSU AND PURSUE SOCIAL WORK.

OKAY.

MY NAME IS ELIJAH RON PHILLIPS AND I'M LOOKING TO JOIN THE AIR FORCE TO PURSUE MECHANICAL ENGINEERING.

WONDERFUL.

BY THE WAY, FIGHT ON RIGHT ON.

YEAH.

MY NAME'S ANNA BROWN.

UH, I WANT TO GO TO QUIA MACA AFTER AND TEACHER OR INTERIOR DESIGNER.

THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS CAROLYN AGUILAR, ASU AND THEN EDUCATION BURNISH.

VERY GOOD.

MY NAME IS DEVIN ELLISON AND I WISH TO PURSUE MY DREAM OF BEING A WRITER.

GOOD.

MY NAME IS GAVIN ROLAND AND I WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED THE DREAM OF BEING A GOVERNMENT CONTRACTOR WITH MY FATHER.

VERY GOOD.

MY NAME IS BIRDIE YOKUM AND I'M INTERESTED IN BECOMING A LAWYER.

I WAS STUDYING CRIMINAL LAW.

OKAY.

MY NAME IS KATIE CRAWLEY AND I HOPE TO ATTEND A FOUR YEAR UNIVERSITY HERE IN SAN DIEGO TO STUDY DANCE.

VERY GOOD.

HELLO, I'M RYAN L. ROSS.

I WANT TO ATTEND TO MDSU AND STUDY ZOOLOGY.

VERY GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS ELSBETH DRAW, SO I'LL BE ATTENDING NIU AND I'LL BE STUDYING MUSIC.

VERY GOOD.

HI, MY NAME IS BRENDA FLORES AND I WANTED TO STUDY IN BUSINESS SPECIFICALLY IN FINANCE.

VERY GOOD.

MY NAME IS LUKE KG.

I WANT TO STUDY A BUSINESS MATE.

I WANT TO GET A BUSINESS MAJOR AND I WANT TO GO TO SDSU UNIVERSITY.

WONDERFUL.

I'M SAM GRUBY.

UH, I HAVEN'T DECIDED WELL ON A PLAN CW OF ACROSS YET AND I WANT TO PURSUE A CAREER IN VENTURE CAPITALISM.

GOOD OCCUPATION.

UH, MY NAME IS ANTHONY YOUNG AND I'M HOPING TO PLAY BASEBALL IN COLLEGE.

VERY GOOD.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS CYNTHIA NAVA AND UM, I'M INTERESTED IN PURSUING BUSINESS OR ENTREPRENEURSHIP BY ATTENDING KUYA MACA COLLEGE.

HEY, GOOD.

UM, HI.

MY NAME'S MEDUSA VASQUEZ AND I WANT TO GO INTO THE MEDICAL

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FIELD AND GO INTO A FOUR YEAR.

OKAY, VERY GOOD.

HEY, MY NAME'S ANNABELLA CABAL CHECK AND I'M GOING TO INDIANA TECH FOR SOCCER WHERE I'LL BE, I'M MAJORING IN FORENSIC PSYCHOLOGY.

SURE.

THANK YOU.

HELLO.

MY NAME IS KATIE MIXER AND I'M NOT SURE WHERE I'M GOING TO COLLEGE YET, BUT I'M GOING INTO NURSING.

VERY GOOD.

HI, MY NAME IS KAREN AND I WANT TO GO TO USC OR SDSU TO STUDY BUSINESS.

MY NAME IS CAMERON HEALEY AND I WANT TO GO TO GROSSMONT COLLEGE AND GET MY REAL ESTATE LICENSE.

MY NAME'S ALEX DUBAY AND I'M GOING TO SOUTHWESTERN COMMUNITY COLLEGE TO STUDY FIRE SCIENCE.

VERY GOOD.

NOW STUDENTS, UM, IS THERE ANYBODY THAT DIDN'T COME IN? I WANT YOU TO OR COME UP.

I WANT YOU TO RAT ON THEM NOW SO THEY HAVE TO COME UP.

IS THERE ANYBODY THAT DIDN'T COME UP? JUST POINT THEM OUT AND WE'LL GET THEM UP HERE.

THEY ALL MADE IT.

THEY ALL MADE IT.

WELL, CONGRATULATIONS.

AND UH, FOR THE GENTLEMAN THAT WAS GOING TO GO INTO BASEBALL, OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER IS A NEPHEW OF JOE TOMAS.

YOU, I'M SURE YOU'VE ALL HEARD OF JOE DIMAGGIO.

SO HE WAS THE SPEAKER AT OUR ROTARY CLUB TODAY.

SO, UM, HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU A FEW HITTING, UM, POINTERS BECAUSE HE PLAYED ALSO, BUT NOT, NOT WITH JOE, BUT HE WANTS TO GO INTO POLITICS.

NOPE.

OKAY.

SMART.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO MOVE ON

[ PUBLIC COMMENT: At this time, any person may address a matter within the jurisdiction of the City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the El Cajon Redevelopment Agency that is not on the Agenda. Comments relating to items on today’s docket are to be taken at the time the item is heard. State law prohibits discussion or action on items not on the Agenda; however, Council, Authority and Agency Members may briefly respond to statements or questions. An item may be placed on a future Agenda.]

A PUBLIC COMMENT THIS TIME? ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS A MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE OKLAHOMA REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

COMMENTS RELATED TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA ARE TO BE TAKEN AT THE TIME THAT THE ITEM IS HEARD.

STATE LAW PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

HOWEVER, CITY COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND TO STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS AND ITEM MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS AND A PUBLIC COMMENT? YES SIR.

WE HAVE FOUR SPEAKERS.

THE FIRST ONE IS ROBERT CLARK.

WELL, MR. CLARK, WELCOME.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS ROBERT CLARK AND I'VE LIVED IN EL CAHONE ABOUT 24 YEARS AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WOULD HAPPEN TODAY IS THE SAME THING THAT HAPPENED AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING AND LOOKING AT THE MINUTES, THE WORD INVITE IS USED AND IT SAYS THAT THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN INVITED STUDENTS.

WELL, THEY'RE TOLD IT'S A REQUIREMENT.

IT'S NOT OPTIONAL.

THEY DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.

THIS IS AMERICA, THE LAND OF THE FREE AND HOME OF THE BRAVE.

AND IF A STUDENT WANTS TO NOT COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND SPEAK UP, THAT STUDENT SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT.

AND APPARENTLY NONE WAS BRAVE ENOUGH TO DO THAT.

AND THEN YOU'RE THERE.

THERE ALSO WERE TOLD THE LAST MEETING AND JUST SECONDS AGO THAT OTHER STUDENTS SHOULD RAT OUT SOMEBODY THAT DIDN'T COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE.

I FIND THIS VERY ANTI-DEMOCRATIC AND I WOULD HOPE THAT OTHER MEMBERS OF, UH, OF THE COUNCIL WHICH SPEAK OUT AGAINST US.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU BONNIE PRICE.

HI BONNIE.

WELCOME.

WOW, MARIN COUNCIL.

UH, I WANT TO PICK UP ON WHAT THE MAYOR SAID.

WE NEED GOOD PEOPLE TO RUN FOR OFFICE.

LOTS OF THEM.

AND PLEASE DO CONSIDER IT.

ESPECIALLY WOMEN.

UM, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS ON BUSINESS BEFORE THE COUNCIL AT VARIOUS TIMES.

DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED TIME FOR THE REOPENING OF AT PACK? AND THE SECOND ONE IS, HAS THE COUNCIL BEEN ABLE TO DO AN INSPECTION OF THE INTERMENT CAMP FOR ASYLUM SEEKERS ON BROADWAY? UM, THE ANSWER, THE FIRST QUESTION IS SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER, THE EPOC WILL OPEN UNDER THE MANAGEMENT OF LIVE NATION, UM, ASKED FOR THE VISIT TO THE A GROUP HOME, WHICH I THINK INTERMENT CAMP MIGHT BE A LITTLE HARSH, BUT, UH, I THINK GRAHAM YOU WENT AND VISITED THE THEME, RIGHT? MR MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL, UH, ME, VINCE, VINCE, A MODULAR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND TONY SHOOTER COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR WERE GRANTED A TOUR OF THE FACILITY.

WE SPENT ABOUT AN HOUR THERE ON A RAINY DAY.

WE WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY INTERACT WITH, WITH A LOT OF THE, UH, YOUNG MEN THAT WERE THERE, THAT FACILITY HOUSES YOUNG MEN BETWEEN THE AGES OF SIX AND 18.

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WE SAW THEM AT SCHOOL, WE SAW THEM GETTING SOME MEDICAL TREATMENT OR SOME CHECKUPS OR TALKING TO THE NURSE.

WE INTERACTED WITH THE SCHOOL OR THE PSYCHOLOGISTS AND THEIR CASE MANAGERS ASKED A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

UH, WE ALSO REACHED OUT TO THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY LICENSING ISSUES OR ANY VIOLATIONS AND BASED ON OUR INVESTS OR A TOUR, UM, WE ALL, OH, I SHOULD SAY WE, WE MET WITH BEYOND THE STAFF FROM SOUTHWEST KEYS.

WE MET WITH THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE OFFICE OF REFUGEE RELOCATION WHO ACTUALLY SUPERVISES AND MANAGES THAT FACILITY AND ACTUALLY ALL THE FACILITIES IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.

WE MET WITH HER.

UM, IT'S PRETTY HEAVILY REGULATED.

THE, THE SITE FROM BOTH THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

WE FELT CONFIDENT THAT WHAT'S OCCURRING THERE IS, UM, A GOOD ENVIRONMENT.

WE, UM, WE DID FIND OUT THAT THEY ACTUALLY DO FIELD TRIPS.

WE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WAS SOMETHING NEW TO US, THAT THEY GO OUT AND THEY'VE BEEN A PADRE GAMES.

UM, THEY GO TO BALBOA PARK AND WE'VE ACTUALLY REACHED OUT AND OFFERED SOME OF OUR CITY RESOURCES, FACILITIES FOR THEM TO RECREATE IN IF THE SPACE THEY HAVE THERE, IF THEY DON'T BELIEVE IT'S LARGE ENOUGH FOR THEIR NEEDS.

SO.

OKAY.

AND THE ISSUE OF A COUNCIL MEMBERS GOING THERE WERE, THERE WAS IT HAVE TO HAVE SPECIAL PERMISSION, RIGHT.

SO CORRECT.

UM, THE LAST WE'RE AT AT MR CLOSKY HAS REQUESTED A TOUR AND THERE'S A PAPERWORK PROCESS THAT PAPERWORK HAS BEEN SUBMITTED.

AND SO WE'RE WORKING ON GETTING HIM A TOUR.

ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE A TOUR? WE CAN ARRANGE THAT.

JUST LET ME KNOW AND WE'LL WORK ON THE PAPERWORK FOR THAT.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT.

THAT'S A REAL PLUS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

WHAT NEED LOPEZ? HELLO.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS WHITNEY LOPEZ.

I'M A VOLUNTEER WITH TRAUMA INTERVENTION PROGRAM, BETTER KNOWN AS TIP.

UM, I JUST HAVE A SCENARIO.

CAN YOU IMAGINE YOUR DAUGHTER WHO LIVES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COUNTRY CALLS YOU SOBBING, LETTING YOU KNOW THAT YOUR GRAND BABY JUST PASSED AWAY? UM, SHE SOBBING, SHE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON AND SHE'S THERE ALL ALONE.

YOU KNOW, WHAT WILL TAKE YOU HOURS TO GET TO HER AND MAYBE EVEN A FLIGHT.

THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS, THEY ARE TRYING TO RESUSCITATE THE BABY RIGHT NOW AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS THERE TO DO AN INVESTIGATION.

BUT WHO'S GOING TO BE THERE FOR YOUR DAUGHTER WHO CAN BE THERE TO CALM HER, GIVE HER A SHOULDER TO CRY ON, EXPLAIN THE PROCESS AND WHAT IS GOING ON.

WHO WAS THE LIASSON BETWEEN HER AND THE FIRST RESPONDERS? A TIP VOLUNTEER IS EXACTLY THAT PERSON.

WE ARRIVE ON SCENE WITHIN 20 TO 30 MINUTES.

WE ARE CALLED THERE TO GIVE EMOTIONAL AND PRACTICAL SUPPORT TO FAMILIES THAT ARE LEFT ON SCENE OF A TRAUMATIC EVENT.

WE ARE THERE JUST FOR YOUR DAUGHTER.

WE WILL HELP EXPLAIN TO HER WHAT THE OFFICIALS ARE DOING, WHAT IS GOING ON, TRY TO PERSONALIZE AND CUSTOMIZE HER LAST MOMENTS WITH HER BABY.

MAYBE GIVE HER A BLANKET.

UM, WHATEVER IS USUALLY ALLOWED AND WE ARE THERE TO HELP MEDIATE BETWEEN THE FIRST RESPONDERS.

WE HELP WITH MORTUARY ARRANGEMENTS, PERSONALIZING GLASS MOMENTS AS I STATED.

UM, AND I'M HERE TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE THESE VERY PEOPLE GOING OUT IN THE COMMUNITY DOING THESE THINGS AND HELPING THE CITIZENS IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

WE ARE HERE HELP TO FREE UP THE DEPUTIES AND FIREFIGHTERS TO GET THEM BACK INTO SERVICE.

I HAVE A FEW STATISTICS FROM THIS YEAR.

IN 2018 TIPS.

SAN DIEGO RESPONDED TO 1,199.

CALLS FOR SERVICE, HELPED 5,238 CITIZENS AND ASSISTED 7,616 FIRST RESPONDERS AND WE PROVIDED OVER 4,900 VOLUNTEER HOURS.

AND THEN, UM, WE ALSO HAVE AN UPCOMING TIP ACADEMY AND IT WILL TAKE PLACE IN SAN MARCOS FROM FEBRUARY 20TH TO MARCH 2ND AND THE INFORMATION IS ON OUR WEBSITE.

UM, THE REASON I AM HERE TONIGHT IS TO SAY THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING TIP TO THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE IN THE CITY OF ALCOHOL.

WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY, THANK YOU FOR DOING WHAT YOU DO.

AND I WAS ON THE COUNCIL, I THINK SOMEBODY FROM TIP SPOKE AT OUR ROTARY CLUB AND THEN I GOT THE CITY COUNCIL INVOLVED BEFORE THEY WERE INVOLVED IN .

AND I JUST APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN TRAUMA OR HAVE, YOU KNOW, A DEATH IN THE FAMILY OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, UH, FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO IN OUR CITY AND COUNTY AND NATIONALLY.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM.

IF THERE ARE ANY PEOPLE THAT WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER TO GET INVOLVED, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU DO IT IF YOU LIKE TO HELP PEOPLE BECAUSE IT'S A GREAT WAY OF REACHING OUT TO OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO COMFORT AND A TIME OF NEED AND UM, UH, WHEN THEY'RE IN DESPERATE CIRCUMSTANCES.

SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO BE AN ALCOHOLIC.

YOU BET.

WAS WE LIKE TO ACTION? UM, I'M A VOLUNTEER WITH, UH, TIP TRAUMA INTERVENTION.

WE JUST

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VOLUNTEER.

IT'S THREE 12 HOUR SHIFTS AND THEN A CE ONCE A MONTH.

UM, THE WAY I GOT INTO IT IS I'M ACTUALLY A PARAMEDIC FOR AMERICAN MEDICAL RESPONSE HERE AND ALCOHOL AT A FIRE STATION EIGHT AND I SAW THAT THEY ARE REALLY THERE FOR THE FAMILY IN A WAY, IS THAT WE CAN'T BE, UM, AND THEY ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO DO OUR JOB AND GET IN SERVICE QUICKER.

SO I'VE GOT TO SEE BOTH PARTS.

THAT'S GREAT.

YOU VOLUNTEERED TIME CAUSE I KNOW YOU WORK REALLY HARD AS A PARAMEDIC.

THAT'S, THAT'S A TOUGH JOB.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLIANCE FOR YOU.

AND PLEASE TELL THE REST OF THE FOLKS AT TIP.

WE APPRECIATE WHAT THEY DO.

YES.

OUR LAST SPEAKER IS ABRAHAM MU HAYSI HEY PERHAM, WELCOME.

HELLO.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, MY NAME IS ABRAHAM O HAZY.

I'M A BORN AND RAISED RIGHT HERE IN OKLAHOMA.

UH, 30 YEARS OLD NOW.

I GRADUATED FROM EL CAJON VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL, WENT TO COLON VALLEY MIDDLE SCHOOL AND THE RANKA BOSTONIAN MAGNOLIA GREW UP IN THE BOSTONIAN REC CENTERS.

BUT, UH, THE REASON WHY I'M HERE IS, UH, UH, THREE YEARS AGO I STARTED A BASKETBALL LEAGUE, I L COHEN VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL.

UH, AS A WAY TO RAISE MONEY FOR VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL.

AND WITHIN FIVE MONTHS WE HAD ONE OF THE BEST BASKETBALL LEAGUES AND THROUGHOUT ALL OF SAN DIEGO AND RAISED $9,500, DONATED IT TO ELKHORN VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL'S ASB.

AND, UH, TO THIS DAY RIGHT NOW, UH, THE STUDENTS, ASB CARDS DON'T COST $20.

THEY NOW COST $7.

SO EVERY TIME A KID ACTUALLY PURCHASED THE ASB CARD, THEY PULL A $13 FROM THAT FUND TO HELP COVER THAT EXPENSE, UM, WHICH IS A, A BLESSING.

AND FROM THAT BASKETBALL LEAGUE, UH, I WAS ABLE TO START A BASKETBALL TEAM CALLED THE SAN DIEGO KINGS, WHICH IS, UH, IN OUR FIRST YEAR, LAST SEASON WE WON THE FAR WEST DIVISION CHAMPIONSHIP, WHICH IS A OVER 30 TEAMS IN THE WEST COAST.

UH, WE ENDED UP GOING OUT TO TEXAS.

WE FINISHED THIRD IN THE NATION, OUT OF 140 TOTAL TEAMS AND, UH, INTO OUR SECOND YEAR.

UM, THREE WEEKS AGO I WAS ABLE TO BRING THE TEAM TO ELKHORN VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL, HAD AN AMAZING TURNOUT.

THE WHOLE TEAM, THE WHOLE SCHOOL WAS, UH, BEHIND IT.

WE HAD OVER 500 PEOPLE AT THE GAMES.

THE ENERGY WAS BEYOND ANYTHING WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO IMAGINE.

AND, UH, WE JUST HAD ANOTHER GAME THIS PAST SATURDAY.

SAME THING, OVER 500 PEOPLE.

A FEW PEOPLE HERE WERE ACTUALLY AT THE GAME.

UM, AND UH, WHAT I'M HERE TRYING TO DO NOW IS FIGURING OUT HOW THIS BASKETBALL TEAM CAN BE MORE INVOLVED IN OKLAHOMA.

CAUSE WHEN I STARTED THIS BASKETBALL TEAM, I STARTED OFF OF, UH, ALUMNI UNITED, WHICH IS A NONPROFIT I STARTED, WHICH IS HOW I WAS ABLE TO RAISE $9,500 FOR VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL.

AND, UM, WITH THAT, UH, MY, MY SLOGAN WITH THE TEAM WAS WE'LL WIN IN THE COMMUNITY BEFORE WE WENT IN THE GYM.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO DO JUST THAT.

WITHIN OUR FIRST YEAR.

WE'VE BEEN IN OVER 30 DIFFERENT SCHOOLS, ORGANIZATIONS GIVING BACK.

AND WHEN YOU SEE ONE OF THESE ATHLETES GO UP, DUNK A BALL, YOU GOT ALL THESE KIDS' ATTENTION, UH, RIGHT AWAY.

AND SO, UH, IT'S BEEN A GREAT TOOL THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO USE.

AND, UH, I'M HERE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW THIS BASKETBALL TEAM, YOU KNOW, BEING A KID FROM OKLAHOMA, I DON'T WANT TO PLAY ANY MORE GAMES AT GROSSMONT COLLEGE AT LINCOLN HIGH SCHOOL, KEARNY, MESA SERRA HIGH SCHOOL.

I'D RATHER KEEP IT RIGHT HERE IN OKLAHOMA.

SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW I CAN COME TO THE COUNCIL AND UH, UH, SEE HOW THIS TEAM CAN BE SOMETHING SPECIAL HERE IN SAN DIEGO OR IN OKLAHOMA AS WELL AS SAN DIEGO.

OKAY.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE HERE TO RECRUIT US TO PLAY, BUT HEY, IF YOU LIKE TO PLAY, I GOT SPOTS.

I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE SOME.

BEN, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? WE DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT RIGHT NOW, BUT UH, IT'S, IT'S SO GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

I KNOW YOU AND I WORKED ON A PROJECT FOR HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN NOW? LIKE FOUR OR FIVE.

FIVE YEARS AGO.

DEFINITELY.

AND, AND YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER WHEN I REACHED OUT TO YOU, I KNEW THERE WAS SOMETHING SPECIAL IN YOU GIVING BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.

YOU'RE AN ATHLETE IN YOUR OWN RIGHT.

YOU, YOU WERE A, WHAT WAS A FOOTBALL PLAYER, WEREN'T YOU? YES, DEFINITELY A FOOTBALL I'LL CALL.

SO, UM, IT'S A, IT'S REALLY GOOD TO SEE YOU WHERE YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU ARE, WHERE YOU'VE COME.

AND I, I THINK WE WERE FRIENDS ON FACEBOOK THEN FOR MY NEW YEAR'S RESOLUTION KICKED IN TO, TO GET OFF FACEBOOK.

UM, SO YEAH, IT'S BEEN REALLY, IT'S BEEN REALLY COOL TO WATCH THIS JOURNEY AND UM, I'LL BE THINKING, I'LL BE BRAINSTORMING AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE REACH OUT TO IF I STILL HAVE YOUR NUMBER ON THAT, BUT IT'S REALLY GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

I HAVE, I HAVE SOME INFO ON IT IF I COULD PASS IT TO YOU GUYS.

GIVE IT TO THE CLERK.

WELL, BOB HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU TOO, IF YOU DON'T MIND.

WHAT IS THE AGE RANGE FOR, UH, THE PLAYERS THAT, UH, THE YOUNGEST GUYS? 22.

MY OLDEST GUY IS 35, WHO'S ACTUALLY OUR BEST PLAYER.

THIS GUY PLAYED FOR THE HARLEM GLOBE TROTTERS AND HE'S AMAZING.

WE ACTUALLY JUST SENT A GUY TO THE HARLEM GLOBETROTTERS A MONTH AGO.

IT'S PRETTY AWESOME.

IN OUR SECOND YEAR TO ACTUALLY SEND A GUY OFF PROFESSIONALLY TO A HIGHER LEVEL.

MAYBE SOME OF THESE VALHALLA STUDENTS WHEN THEY GET TO BE 22, WE'D LIKE TO BE, UH, ON YOUR TEAMS. DEFINITELY.

IT'S 18 AND UP OR 18 AND UP 18 AND JUST THE GUY ON MY TEAM IS 22 CAUSE USUALLY THEY WANT TO GO THROUGH COLLEGE.

THESE GUYS, EITHER THEY PLAYED IN COLLEGE, UH, IT JUST DIDN'T WORK OUT.

SO THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING AND THIS IS WHAT THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO FIND HERE IN SAN DIEGO.

SOME OF THESE YOUNG MEN THAT, UH, SPOKE TODAY OR YOU TAKE WOMEN TO? NO, NO.

WE HAVE A DANCE TEAM RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A MEN'S

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BASKETBALL TEAM.

WE HAVE IT, WE DO HAVE A DANCE TEAM, BUT IT'S A MEN'S, IT'S A MEN'S.

A BASKETBALL TEAM, YES.

OKAY.

BUT IF A GIRL IS BETTER THAN ALL MY GUYS, I'LL TAKE HER AND PUT HER ON THE TEAM.

OKAY.

OKAY.

YOU ALL, YOU YOUNG LADIES OUT THERE, IF YOU'RE GOOD BASKETBALL, YOU MIGHT GET ON THIS TEAM.

IT'D BE ALL GUYS ON IT.

SO IT MIGHT BE A GOOD GOOD TIME FOR YOU.

DEFINITELY.

THANK YOU FOR DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

I THINK THIS SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD POTENTIAL FOR STAFF TO CONSIDER FOR AMERICA ON MAIN STREET.

THIS MIGHT BE A NICE GOOD DEMO OR A LITTLE THREE ON THREE OR SOMETHING THAT HAS A LITTLE CULTURAL EXPERIENCE TO IT FOR EVERYBODY AND I WOULD LIKE STAFF TO AT LEAST CONSIDER THAT OPPORTUNITY.

THAT'S GREAT.

YEAH, DEFINITELY.

I'M A, I'M OPEN TO BRINGING THE TEAM OUT AND TRYING TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES, YOU KNOW, FOR THE FIRST YEAR, WHETHER IT WAS ME GOING TO A SCHOOL BY MYSELF OR NOT, BUT I KNEW, HEY, I PROMISE WE'RE GOING TO GET IN THE COMMUNITY AND OUR SLOGANS COMMUNITY FIRST.

SO I'D GO TO SCHOOLS EITHER BY MYSELF, TWO, THREE ATHLETES WITH ME, FIVE, SIX ATHLETES WITH ME, AND WE'D ALWAYS HAVE GEAR TO GIVE OUT AND JUST SOMETHING TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE KIDS FEEL APPRECIATED AT THE SCHOOLS WE'VE GOTTEN INTO.

BUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS A VERY EASY FOR ME TO PUT TOGETHER.

I'VE BEEN ABLE TO BUILD THIS TEAM OFF OF SOCIAL MEDIA.

SO IT'S BEEN A, IT'S BEEN A JOURNEY THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA, BEING ABLE TO BUILD THIS TEAM AND SEE IT GROW FROM YOU KNOW, WHERE IT'S AT TODAY.

WONDERFUL.

THANKS FOR COMING IN.

THANK YOU.

IF YOU THINK OF SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP YOU, PLEASE LET US KNOW FOR SURE.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

NO MORE CARDS, SIR.

OKAY, WONDERFUL.

ALL RIGHT.

THERE ARE NO WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

[10. PUBLIC HEARINGS:]

WE NOT A PUBLIC HEARINGS ITEM TWELVES FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE FISCAL YEAR 1819 ONE YEAR ACTION PLAN FOR REALLOCATING OF AVAILABLE CDBG FUNDS STAFF WHAT YOU TELL US ABOUT THIS PLACE.

HI, WELCOME.

HI.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

I THINK YOU KNOW, MY NAME IS JAMIE VAN RAVIS.

DAN WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

WELL AS YOU KNOW, HUD PROVIDES FUNDING ANNUALLY FOR OUR CDBG PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS THROUGH THAT ONE YEAR ACTION PLAN PROCESS WE BRING TO YOU TODAY'S ACTION, WE'LL AMEND THE CURRENT ANNUAL ACTION PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED IN APRIL OF 2018 TO ALLOCATE AVAILABLE CDBG FUNDS TO THE BACKPACK PROJECT FOR ADDITIONAL COSTS RELATIVE TO ADA IMPROVEMENTS.

THE, UM, COUNCIL YOUR PREVIOUSLY AWARDED ALLOCATIONS OF CDBG FUNDS OVER THE YEARS, FOUR OF THOSE ADA IMPROVEMENTS TOTALING 700,000.

AS OUTLINED IN YOUR STAFF REPORT.

UH, ON DECEMBER 11TH OF 2018 THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED AN INCREASE IN THE TOTAL BUDGET FOR ACT PACK, UM, AS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT FOR THAT ITEM.

I BELIEVE THE INCREASE WAS 1.8 5 MILLION.

UM, WE ALSO NOTED IN THAT STAFF REPORT THAT ADDITIONAL ALLOCATIONS OF CDBG FUNDED WOULD BE FUNDING, WOULD BE REQUESTED FOR ELIGIBLE EXPENDITURES, IDENTIFIED ELIGIBLE MEANING ADA IMPROVEMENTS OR OR UM, SUCH COSTS.

OKAY.

SO THE ADDITIONAL ADA, I'M SORRY, THE ADDITIONAL CDBG ELIGIBLE EXPENDITURES TOTAL APPROXIMATELY $195,000 STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED 195,000 IN UNALLOCATED CDBG FUNDS THAT CAN BE REALLOCATED TO PAY THESE ADDITIONAL COSTS.

AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING REALLOCATING THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY IN UNALLOCATED CDBG FUNDS TO THE BACKPACK PROJECT FOR ADDITIONAL COSTS RELATED TO ADA IMPROVEMENTS.

HEY, SO LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS? NO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THE PUBLIC KEY, THE HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

ANGELA, DO YOU HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO CARD, SIR.

THEN I CAN MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC.

HEARING THAT AGAIN.

MOVING SECOND, PLEASE VOTE I MY US WITH YOU.

YOUR PERMISSION.

I'M GOING TO RESET THE VOTE PLEASE.

OKAY.

AGAIN, COUNCIL VOTE MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

I CANCEL.

THIS SEEMS PRETTY CUT AND DRY.

IT'S A GOOD THING.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY DISCUSSION OR IF SOMEBODY LIKES TO MAKE A MOTION MOVE TO APPROPRIATE THE MONEY FOR CBDG SECOND MOVING SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY A FOUR ZERO VOTE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER COLLAGIO ABSTAINING.

[13. Report on the Efficiency of the 911 System RECOMMENDATION: No action is required by the City Council at this time. This item is information only.]

OKAY.

I AM 30 HAS A REPORT ON THE EFFICIENCY OF THE NINE ONE ONE SYSTEM.

STAFF.

WOULD YOU TELL US ABOUT THIS PLACE? OH, THANK YOU MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, COUNCIL MEMBER GOEBEL ASKED THE STAFF TO ANALYZE, UH, THE NINE ONE ONE SYSTEM, UH, AND LOOK FOR ANY EFFICIENCIES, UH, ANY EFFICIENCIES, ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE SYSTEM.

SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE WENT BACK TO SEPTEMBER 1ST, AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, ON THE, UH, ON THE SCREEN, SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2018 TO JANUARY 22ND, 2019.

AND IN THAT TIME, UH, OUR DISPATCH OR POLICE DISPATCH HANDLED 20, 23,140

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CALLS.

AND OF THOSE CALLS, AND I'LL EXPLAIN THE TERMS AS WE GO THROUGH IT, WE HAD 1,978 CALLS ABANDONED, UH, EMERGENCY NINE ONE ONE 7,553 AND NON-EMERGENCY NINE ONE ONE 4,173 ABANDONED, AS YOU CAN SEE, ARE INCOMPLETE OR ACCIDENTAL CALLS.

SO THOSE WERE CALLS THAT WERE JUST INCOMPLETE.

THEY WERE FOLLOWED UP ON AND THEY WERE EITHER DETERMINED TO BE NON-EMERGENCIES OR SOMETHING OR THEY WERE DISPATCHED.

SO, BUT THEY WERE 1900 AND, AND CHANGE ABANDONED NINE ONE ONE.

EMERGENCIES ARE ACTUAL EMERGENCIES WHERE A DEEM THAT A CALL FOR SERVICE WAS NECESSARY.

AND, AND SOME, UH, ACTION WAS TAKEN NINE ONE ONE NON-EMERGENCY REFERS TO A CALL THAT WAS DETERMINED BY THE DISPATCHER, NOT TO BE AN EMERGENCY, BUT A CALL FOR SERVICE WAS GENERATED ON AN, ON A AS, AS YOU CAN REACH IT BASIS, YOU KNOW, IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN THE OFFICER COULD, COULD, UH, GO TO THE, GO TO THE CALL.

SO WHEN WE, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE 23,000 CALLS, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT UH, THE THREE AREAS ABANDONED NINE ONE ONE EMERGENCY AND NINE ONE ONE NON-EMERGENCY TOTAL 13,007 OH FOUR.

SO THAT LEAVES A DIFFERENCE OF 9,436 CALLS.

THAT CAN BE EXPLAINED BY SIMPLY SAYING THAT THERE WERE MULTIPLE CAR CALLS FOR THE SAME OCCURRENCE.

SO FOR EXAMPLE, IF A NINE ONE ONE CALL WAS RECEIVED REPORTING A BURGLARY, THERE MAY BE FOUR OTHER CALLS REPORTING THE VERY SAME EVENT, BUT IT'S ONLY GOING TO SHOW UP ON THE SYSTEM AS ONE CALL FOR SERVICE.

OKAY.

SO WHAT THE 9,436 REPRESENTS OR JUST SIMPLY MULTIPLE CALLS FOR THE SAME, UM, FOR THE SAME ISSUE.

SO WHEN WE EXAMINE THE DATA, THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CALLS RECEIVED IN THE PERIOD ANALYZED, WE SEE THAT 18%, UH, WERE NON-EMERGENCY CALLS.

SO THAT'S LESS THAN TWO AND 10.

AND SO AS FAR AS THIS REPORT IS CONCERNED ON THE, ON THE PERIOD ANALYZED, IT'S A RELATIVELY LOW PERCENTAGE OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF CALLS IN THE SYSTEM ARE NON EMERGENCY.

SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AT THIS POINT, NO ACTION IS BEING ASKED OF COUNCIL, BUT IN THE EVENT WE WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR THIS, UH, PERIODICALLY AND IN THE EVENT THAT THE PERCENTAGE OF NON-EMERGENCY CALLS SHOULD SUBSTANTIALLY INCREASE, STAFF WILL EXAMINE OPPORTUNITIES FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION TO BE UNDERTAKEN AND REPORT BACK TO COUNCIL.

I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

THANKS, VINCE.

ANY QUESTIONS? BOB, YOU SAID THAT THE NONEMERGENCY CALLS ARE ALSO FOLLOWED UP ON, DO THEY ACTUALLY SEND SOMEBODY OUT? YES.

ON THE, ON THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THEY HAVE TIME AVAILABLE? THAT'S CORRECT, YEAH.

AND WHAT DO THEY USUALLY FIND OUT? EVERY CALL IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT, BUT IT'S THE DISPATCHER'S JOB TO MAKE THE DETERMINATION IF IT'S NON-EMERGENCY THEN AS, AS YOU SAID, AS THE OPPORTUNITY ARISES FOR THAT OFFICER TO GO RESPOND, THEY WILL RESPOND.

BUT IT WAS A NON-EMERGENCY.

IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF IT MIGHT BE NONE, NINE ONE, ONE TYPE EMERGENT OR RE, UH, NEEDS AND IT'S TOO BAD THAT I MAYBE WE NEED TO DO A LITTLE MORE EDUCATION FOR THE PUBLIC BECAUSE, UM, THE ABANDONED AND THE, UM, NON-EMERGENCY IS ABOUT 6,000, ALMOST AS MANY AS THE EMERGENCY.

AND UM, THEY COULD BE PREVENTED IF WE HAD A LITTLE MORE EDUCATION POSSIBLY.

THAT'S CORRECT.

YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

OF THE ABANDONED CALLS THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD INCLUDE ANY ACCIDENTAL DIALING OF NINE ONE ONE.

NOW, SOME OF OUR SMARTPHONES ARE VERY, AND IF WE TOUCH THEM A CERTAIN WAY, THEY'RE GOING TO AUTOMATICALLY DIAL THAT EMERGENCY NUMBER.

OTHERS WERE INCOMPLETE, OTHERS WERE DISCONNECTED.

UM, MAYBE BECAUSE OF A BAD CELL SIGNAL OR JUST DISCONNECTED BECAUSE THE PERSON HUNG UP.

AND IN ALL CASES THOUGH, THE DISPATCHER DID, UH, TRY AND ATTEMPT TO GET AHOLD OF THE PERSON, GET AHOLD OF THE NUMBER AND DETERMINE, IS THIS A REAL EMERGENCY, AN ACCIDENT? DO YOU NEED SERVICE? AND SO THEY WERE ALL INVESTIGATED.

MAYBE THEY DO THEY SAY THAT WAS, YOU ABANDONED THE CALL, BUT UM, DID IT, WAS IT A MISTAKE OR WERE YOU PLAYING WITH THE PHONE OR DO THEY ASK THEM THOSE QUESTIONS? YES.

THOUGH THE DISPATCHER DOES ASK SPECIFICALLY, DO THEY NEED ASSISTANCE OR WAS IT AN ACCIDENT? AND I HAVE TO, I HAVE TO SAY WE DIDN'T DRILL DOWN ANY FARTHER THAN THAT, BUT HAVING WATCHED THE DISPATCHERS IN ACTION MYSELF, I, I'VE SEEN THEM, YOU KNOW, HANDLE CALLS LIKE THAT.

YEAH.

CAUSE UH, WE NEED TO NOT USE THAT UNLESS IT'S NECESSARY AND WE NEED TO EDUCATE OUR, OUR POPULATION TO THAT EFFECT.

HOW DID THE NONEMERGENCY CALL RATE? UH, COMPARED TO OTHER JURISDICTIONS? ACCORDING TO, UH, SPEAKING WITH OUR POLICE CHIEF AND OUR OPERATIONS CAPTAIN, UH, THE 18% IS, IS FAIRLY CONSISTENT WITH OTHER JURISDICTIONS.

THANK YOU.

UM, W WHAT I'M MORE INTERESTED

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IN, UH, OUR CALL TIMES, ESPECIALLY FOR, UH, NON ENGLISH SPEAKERS, HOW LONG IT TAKES FOR A TRANSLATOR TO GET ON FOR THE EMERGENCY CALLS.

DO YOU HAVE, DO WE HAVE ANY FIGURES ON THOSE? I DON'T HAVE FIGURE SPECIFICALLY ON THOSE, BUT I CAN SPEAK TO THE POLICE CHIEF AND GET YOU THAT INFORMATION IF IT'S AVAILABLE.

YEAH.

AND, AND JUST JUST KINDA THINKING OUT LOUD, UH, IT'S, IT'S REALLY, REALLY DIFFICULT TO GET PEOPLE TO MAKE NON-EMERGENCY CALLS, UH, BECAUSE STREAMLINING IT THROUGH AN APP, YOU'LL NEVER CONVINCE THE POPULACE THAT T TO ABANDON DIALING NINE ONE ONE AND TO GO AHEAD AND APP.

AND THEN IF YOU HAVE LIKE, EVEN IF THEY'RE BIG, UM, LEGIBLE SQUARES, EMERGENCY, NON-EMERGENCY, IT'S JUST, THAT'S NOT THE WAY WE'RE PROGRAMMED, NOT AT LEAST IN THIS GENERATION.

BUT, UM, SO THAT'S ALWAYS A DIFFICULTY.

THAT'S WHY I'M MORE INTERESTED IN THE TIME.

LET ME, LET ME EXAMINE THAT AND I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TO YOU IF IT'S POSSIBLE.

STEVE.

SO WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM DIALING NINE ONE ONE.

UH, SO PERHAPS THE NONEMERGENCY CALLS, I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT INCLUDES SOME SKILL, THE DISPATCHER TO TRIAGE THE CALL AND SAY ESSENTIALLY IN SO MANY WORDS, THANK YOU FOR CALLING NINE ONE ONE.

I'M GLAD YOU DID.

LET'S SEE IF THIS IS A TRUE EMERGENCY RATHER THAN ANY OTHER KIND OF CONVERSATION.

SO I THINK IT DOES SPEAK TO THE SKILL OF THE DISPATCHERS.

DO WE HAVE ANY DATA ON BUSINESS VERSUS RESIDENTS, MULTIFAMILY VERSUS SINGLE FAMILY HOME, ANY OF THOSE KIND OF BREAKDOWNS? WE, WE DON'T BREAK IT DOWN OR THE SYSTEM I SHOULD SAY DOES NOT BREAK IT DOWN IN TERMS OF WHETHER THE CALL ORIGINATES IN A COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT OR A RESIDENTIAL ESTABLISHMENT AND THEREFORE IT WOULDN'T BREAK IT DOWN AS FAR AS SINGLE FAMILY OR APARTMENTS.

WHAT WE DO BREAK DOWN IS HOW THE CALL IS RECEIVED AS IT RECEIVED IN OUR BUSINESS LINE AND THAT THAT WAS SOME EARLY MISTAKES THAT WE MADE IN ANALYZING THE DATA IS WHERE THE CALLS RECEIVED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BUSINESS LINE OR WAS THE CALL RECEIVED BY THE NINE ONE ONE SYSTEM AND SO WE DROVE, WE HAD TO DRILL DOWN, WE TOOK A LARGER SAMPLING AND AND JUST FOCUSED ON THE NINE ONE ONE SYSTEM AS OPPOSED TO CALLS COMING INTO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON ANOTHER NUMBER.

WELL THIS DOES PROVIDE GOOD BASELINE INFORMATION GOING FORWARD.

I THINK THIS IS A GREAT PLACE TO START TO START TRACKING THESE PERHAPS ANNUALLY TO SEE IF THEY'RE ALREADY DEVIATIONS THAT PRESENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR EDUCATION OR SOMETHING.

BUT I THINK, UH, MY TAKEAWAY IS I'M IMPRESSED BY THE DISPATCHER'S ABILITY TO TRIAGE A CALL WHICH, UH, DIRECTLY AFFECTS THE CALLS THAT GOT POSTED ON AN OFFICER'S SCREEN AS CALLS FOR SERVICE.

AND WE KNOW THERE ARE A LOT, SO EVERY CHANCE OF DISPATCHER CAN DO TO DEESCALATE A SITUATION WITHOUT DISCOURAGING CALLING NINE ONE ONE SHOWS A LOT OF SKILL IN THE AREA AND I'M IMPRESSED BY THAT.

THANK YOU VINCE.

THANK YOU.

EXCELLENT.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS FROM THE SODOM? NO SIR.

NO CARTS.

ALL RIGHT.

THIS WAS AN INFORMATIONAL ONLY ITEM AND THERE WAS NO EMOTION NEEDED.

[14. Update on City of El Cajon's Homeless Programs RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council receives a report regarding the City's homeless programs and provide feedback.]

ITEM 14 IS AN UPDATE ON THE CITY COUNCIL.

I'M SORRY, THE CITY OF ALCOHOL'S HOMELESS PROGRAMS. I'D LIKE TO ASK STAFF TO TELL US ABOUT THIS PLEASE.

MR MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

IT'S BEEN ABOUT SIX MONTHS SINCE A STAFF PROVIDED AN UPDATE TO THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT THE HOMELESS PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF.

THE REPORT BEFORE YOU FOCUS ON REALLY TWO PROGRAMS A WAY BACK HOME.

AND THEN ALSO THE HOUSING NAVIGATION PROGRAMS. THESE PROGRAMS ARE REALLY GEARED TOWARD FINDING PERMANENT HOUSING SOLUTIONS FOR THE HOMELESS POPULATION IN OUR COMMUNITY.

UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE ALSO THAT THESE PROGRAMS BOTH RELY ON A COMMUNITY PARTNER, A NONPROFIT PARTNER, AND WE'VE RELIED ON THAT EFFECTIVELY SINCE 2017 THE CITY HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THE SALVATION ARMY ON THE AWAY BACK HOME PROGRAM IN THAT TIME SINCE, SINCE IMPLEMENTING THE PROGRAM, UH, 39 INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN REUNITED WITH LOVED ONES OUTSIDE OF THE AREA.

I KNOW THE STAFF REPORT SAYS 35, BUT OVER THIS PAST WEEKEND WE WERE ABLE TO GET FOUR INDIVIDUALS BACK TO GEORGIA WITH FAMILY.

ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WAS A, WAS A EIGHT MONTH PREGNANT WOMAN, SO SHE CAN BE BACK WITH, UM, A SISTER AND SOME OTHER LOVED ONES TO HELP THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

THIS WITH THIS LATEST RELOCATION OR REUNITE REUNIFICATION OF FOLKS, WE'VE ACTUALLY EXPENDED THE FULL $10,000 THAT WE ALLOCATED TO THE SALVATION ARMY.

SO IF YOU WERE TO TAKE THAT 10,000 DIVIDED BY 39 INDIVIDUALS, WE'RE S WE'RE AVERAGING $256 PER PERSON FOR FI FOR FINDING PERMANENT HOUSING.

THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD RETURN ON INVESTMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE BUDGETED IN OUR HOUSING FUNDS, ADDITIONAL MONIES FOR THE SALVATION ARMY AND THAT'S WITHIN MY SIGNING PER OUR CONTRACT PER VIEW.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND

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RENEW ANOTHER $10,000 WITH THE SALVATION ARMY.

IT'S A GOOD USE OF OUR MONEY I BELIEVE.

UM, IT'S INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT THE SALVATION ARMY REALLY HAS BEEN USING EL CAHONE AS A PILOT FOR THIS PROGRAM AND THEY ARE WORKING ON FINDING SOME ADDITIONAL OUTSIDE FUNDING BESIDES OKLAHOMA TO EXPAND THIS PROGRAM COUNTY-WIDE.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CERTAINLY SUPPORTIVE OF GIVEN THE COST PER SUCCESS.

ALSO, THE WANTING TO REPORT ON THE CITY'S HOUSING NAVIGATION PROGRAM.

AS YOU RECALL, WE ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH CRISIS HOUSE ABOUT 14 MONTHS AGO.

THIS, THIS PROGRAM PAYS FOR A HOUSING THAT ONE HOUSING NAVIGATOR, ONE INDIVIDUAL THAT DOES THE FULL GAMUT OF LOCATING HOUSING TO CASE MANAGEMENT, TO FIELD WORK, TO UM, SORT OF, UH, MANAGING PEOPLE'S LIVES.

AND EVENTUALLY GETTING THEM INTO HOUSING.

THIS POSITION HAS BEEN, UM, BEEN ABLE TO UTILIZE SOME CITY'S HOUSING ASSISTANCE FUNDS AND WE'VE ALLOCATED BOTH THOSE AMOUNTS OF MONEY TO CRISIS HOUSE TO ACCOMPLISH THIS GOAL.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO, UM, HOUSE 70 INDIVIDUALS OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST 14 MONTHS.

AND IF YOU WERE TO COMBINE THE COST OF THE HOUSING NAVIGATION, UH, SALARY TO DATE AS WELL AS THE HOUSING ASSISTANCE FUNDS, WE'VE SPENT $138,000, ABOUT $138,000, WHICH MEANS WE SPENT A LITTLE UNDER $2,000 PER PERSON TO FIND PERMANENT HOUSING.

AGAIN, THERE'S NOT MANY PROGRAMS IN THE UNITED STATES WHERE PERMANENT HOUSING CAN BE FOUND FOR, FOR UNDER $2,000.

UM, CRISIS HOUSE HAS FOUND A LOT OF SUCCESS IN THIS PROGRAM WORKING WITH THE OTHER EAST COUNTY CITIES.

WE ARE WORKING WITH CRISIS HOUSE TO HELP THEM SECURE ADDITIONAL GRANT FUNDS TO EXPAND THE ELCA HOME PROGRAM TO MORE OF AN EAST COUNTY PROGRAM.

SO THAT WOULD ENTAIL ADDITIONAL STAFFING AND ADDITIONAL RESOURCES, NOT ONLY IN THE REST OF EAST COUNTY, BUT ACTUALLY A HEAVIER CONCENTRATION OF FOLKS INL CONE.

IN CONCLUSION, I THINK THE LAST 18 MONTHS, THE CITY HAS BEEN ABLE TO TAKE DIRECT RESPONSIBILITY THROUGH ITS, UH, DIRECT FUNDING OF 109 INDIVIDUALS FINDING THEM PERMANENT HOUSING.

THIS HAS BEEN A SUCCESS.

THIS IS REQUIRED COLLABORATION AMONGST NOT ONLY CITY DEPARTMENTS BUT WITH OUR NONPROFIT FROM, FROM ALMOST ALL OF THEM.

AND IN FACT, I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHAIN OF, OF WHERE INDIVIDUALS GO FROM THE STREET TO TRANSITIONAL HOUSING TO PERMANENT HOUSING, THE EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER ACTUALLY PLAYS A PRETTY IMPORTANT ROLE.

ALMOST 20% OF FOLKS THAT HAVE FOUND PERMANENT HOUSING HAVE COME THROUGH THE EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER.

I'M ACTUALLY 11%.

UH, WE THINK THAT WE'VE BEEN PRETTY SUCCESSFUL IN THIS PROGRAM.

AND, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOTAL NUMBER OF FOLKS HOUSED PERMANENTLY HOUSED, NOT TEMPORARILY HOUSED, DIVIDED BY THE TOTAL OR THE TOTAL COSTS WE'VE ALLOCATED DIVIDED BY THE TOTAL NUMBER OF THAT WE'VE HOUSED, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO, UH, HOUSE FIND PERMANENT HOUSING OF A LITTLE UNDER $1,300 PER PERSON.

IF YOU COMBINE THE TWO PROGRAMS TOGETHER.

AGAIN, PRETTY PHENOMENAL.

BESIDES THIS AS AN INFORMATION ITEM, STAFF IS SEEKING ANY ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK THAT YOU MAY HAVE ON THIS PROGRAM AND ANY OTHER FEEDBACK ABOUT SOME OF THE PROGRAMS OR ACTIVITIES THAT WE'VE BEEN ENGAGED IN.

THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.

THANKS GRAHAM.

LET'S SEE.

THERE'S QUESTIONS ALL AROUND.

I'LL START WITH GARY.

YEAH.

UH, YES.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE HEARD ABOUT A LOT FROM PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY IS I ASK THEM WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT OUR, UH, SIGNS THAT SUGGESTED THEY DON'T, UH, GIVE MONEY TO PANHANDLERS.

AND A LOT OF THEM SAY WHAT SIGNS.

AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER SIGNS.

AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT I, I'D LIKE TO SEE A PHONE NUMBER WHERE THE HOME ON THOSE SUNS WHERE THE HOMELESS CAN CALL FOR HELP AND MAYBE THEY CALL THE HOUSING NAVIGATOR.

UH, I HAD A COUPLE OF FRIENDS THAT, UH, ACTUALLY PICKED UP SOME HOMELESS PEOPLE AND TOOK THEM OVER THE EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER.

AND, UH, I, I WOULD ALSO, UH, I SEE THEM IN THE AUDIENCE WITH THE MAYOR'S PERMISSION, UH, AS CAROL BROWN, MAYBE HE CAN COME UP AND TELL US HOW MANY FAMILIES ARE THERE RIGHT NOW AND HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS.

CAUSE I, I'VE GOT A, I'VE HAD TWO PEOPLE FOR THREE YEARS, UH, STAY AT MY HOUSE THAT ARE GRADUATES.

AND SO I HAVE A REALLY HIGH OPINION OF EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER.

THEY COME OVER TO MY HOUSE, STAY FOR WELDON, GO ON TO SOMETHING ELSE.

SO, UH, HAROLD, WITH YOUR PERMISSION, MR MAYOR, COUNCIL, UH, STAFF, UM, ALL OF US WORKING TOGETHER AS THE SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM.

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UM, WE WORK WITH THE HOUSING NAVIGATOR OVER A CRISIS HOUSE AND WITH SALVATION ARMY TO SEND PEOPLE BACK HOME ON, ON REUNITING.

WE ACTUALLY DID 208 FAMILIES LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE, UH, WITH THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS THAT WE GOT.

SO THAT'LL HELP YOUR NUMBER A LITTLE BIT.

IF YOU TOTAL ALL OF THAT IN WE'RE TOGETHER, WE PROBABLY AVERAGE AROUND $700 A FAMILY TO ACTUALLY GET THEM INTO PERMANENT HOUSING, WHICH IS PHENOMENAL.

UM, SO WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING, UH, WITH ALL THE NONPROFITS TOGETHER IS JUST AMAZING.

AND I THINK IT'S A, IT'S A MODEL THAT THE REST OF THE COUNTRY SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT AND UH, AND DO THAT.

I, I W I, I TOO WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME KIND OF A NUMBER OR SOMETHING ON THERE FOR THE HOMELESS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT, UM, THEIR SITUATION.

IF THEY'RE OUT THERE PANHANDLING AND THEY LOOK AND THEY SEE A NUMBER, MAYBE THEY CAN CALL THE HOUSING NAVIGATOR OR CRISIS HOUSE OR US OR WHOEVER.

UM, AND ACTUALLY GET, GET AHOLD OF SOMEBODY THAT CAN HELP THEM NAVIGATE THEMSELVES BACK INTO, INTO SOME KIND OF HELP.

UM, SO I'M ALL FOR IT.

UM, THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA.

UM, AND JUST APPRECIATE ALL YOU GUYS AND ALL YOU'RE DOING.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR HAROLD BROWN? HAROLD? THANK YOU.

THANKS.

ALL RIGHT, BOB.

I'M SURE THAT, UH, THE MONIES THAT WE GIVE, UH, I JUST WAS WONDERING IF, IF WE UPPED THAT A LITTLE BIT, UM, WOULD THAT INCREASE THE NUMBER OF BEING PLACED IN A PERMANENT HOUSING? W UNLIKE A LOT OF GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS THAT ARE HEAVILY REGULATED, WE ACTUALLY GIVE CHRIST'S HOUSE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY PER PERSON.

AND SO IF IT GOES BEYOND A CERTAIN AMOUNT, THEY HAVE TO GET CITY STAFF APPROVAL.

BUT WE'VE GIVEN THEM SORT OF THIS CONTINUUM CONTINUUM THAT THEY CAN UTILIZE THIS MONEY IN ANY WAY.

AND SO THIS AVERAGE OF, OF, UM, UNDER $2,000 FOR SOME INDIVIDUALS IT'S JUST A MATTER OF PAYING UTILITIES.

AND SO IT COULD BE SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS.

AND FOR OTHER INDIVIDUALS, THAT MAY MEAN THAT WE'RE SUBSIDIZING HOUSING FOR THREE MONTHS.

AND SO IT'S, IT'S MORE LIKE A $5,000.

AND SO WE'VE GIVEN THEM THAT FLEXIBILITY.

WE THINK THAT THERE'S ENOUGH MONEY FOR THEM TO WORK WITH RIGHT NOW TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOAL.

I THINK IF WE WERE TO ALLOCATE MORE MONEY, IT WOULD JUST MEAN THE PROGRAM WOULD GO ON LONGER, BUT, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO WAIT FOR THIS NEXT AGREEMENT TO EXPIRE AND THEN KIND OF ASSESS WHERE WE'RE AT.

WELL, I'D HATE TO SEE HIM RUN OUT OF MONEY TO WHERE THEY COULDN'T PLAY SOMEBODY.

WELL, IF WE GOT TO THAT POINT, WE'D BE COMING BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND HAVING YOU CONSIDER ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO HEAR THAT HAROLD.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THEN I THINK MAYBE, UM, BOB, UH, TOOK ONE OF MY QUESTIONS, BUT, UM, I, THE WAY BACK HOME PROGRAM IS IT, AND I DON'T KNOW THIS, AND I'LL OBVIOUSLY, I'LL TAKE YOUR WORD FOR IT, IS, IS IT SLIGHTLY OPTIMISTIC BECAUSE WOULDN'T A, THE LITERAL MEASURE FOR IT WORKING BE THAT THEY DON'T COME BACK? YEAH.

WELL, ONE OF THE METRICS THAT WE HAVE AS PART OF THIS PROGRAM, AND ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF SALVATION ARMY IS TO ACTUALLY FOLLOW UP AT THE SIX MONTH MARK AND THE ONE YEAR MARK AND DETERMINE WHETHER THEY'RE STILL THERE.

SO, UH, SO THEN IT WOULD BE REALLY LITERAL.

THEN 10 GRAND, UM, RELOCATED, REUNITED, UH, 35 INDIVIDUALS OUTSIDE OF THE REGION.

SO IF SOME NUMBERS I READ ARE, UH, SO THEN I GUESS THEN TO FOLLOW ON ON THE QUESTION, CAUSE I THINK BOB MAYBE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE HOUSING NAVIGATOR.

SO THEN WOULD INCREASING THAT UH, YOU KNOW, UM, REUNITE MORE PEOPLE FASTER.

AND IF WE HAVE, LET'S SAY 800 HOMELESS PEOPLE IN WITH 250 K REUNITE EVERYBODY.

WHAT I THINK THE MONEY, THE LIMITATION ISN'T THE MONEY.

THE LIMITATION IS FINDING INDIVIDUALS THAT WANT TO GO HOME TODAY AND NOT ONLY FINDING INDIVIDUALS THAT WANT TO GO HOME, BUT MAKING SURE THE SITUATION IS APPROPRIATE WHEN THEY GO HOME.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SALVATION ARMY DOES IS LET'S SAY PERSON X SAYS, I'M FROM GEORGIA AND I REALLY WANT TO GO HOME.

THE SALVATION ARMY ACTUALLY CALLS THE, THE FAMILY MEMBER IN GEORGIA TO MAKE SURE THAT ONE, IT'S SAFE FOR THEM TO GO.

THEY'RE THERE, THEY'RE INVITED TO BE THERE, THEY HAVE A, A BED FOR THEM.

SO THEY'RE NOT JUST, WE'RE NOT CREATING ANOTHER HOMELESS SITUATION THAT THEY HAVE THE SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED.

SO IF THOSE PARAMETERS AREN'T IN PLACE, THEY'RE ACTUALLY NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE PROGRAM.

SO NOW I GET THE, I GET THE VARIABLES.

YEAH.

BUT, UM, SO I THINK THE SALVATION ARMY YOU CAN TAKE, UM, YOU'RE SAYING THE 10,000 IS WITHIN YOUR PREVIEW TO GIVE.

I THINK THEY CAN TAKE MORE, UH, AS OPPOSED TO IT'S DIFFERENT THAN MEN CRISIS HOUSE, BUT I MAY BE WRONG, BUT, UM, SO I LIKE TO SEE IT.

I THINK EXPAND

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BECAUSE IT LOOKED LIKE IT WORKED BASED ON A LITERAL, UH, EFFECTIVENESS OF 35 INDIVIDUALS WERE UNITED BASED ON THE DIFFERENT VARIABLES OF WHOEVER IS QUALIFYING.

WHOEVER WALKS ON THEIR OWN TWO FEET INTO THE PLACE AND SAYS, I WANT TO BE REUNITED.

I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT.

UH, SO, UH, EXPLAIN AGAIN TO ME WHY OR MAYBE NOT.

IF $30,000 WOULDN'T RELOCATE THREE TIMES THE AMOUNT OF A HUNDRED PEOPLE IT WOULD.

BUT REMEMBER IT'S TAKEN THEM 18 MONTHS TO EXPEND THE 10,000.

SO, SO RATHER THAN SAYING, HERE'S A LOT OF MONEY WITH A DEFINED TIME PERIOD, W WE'RE JUST GIVING THEM ALMOST FRONTING $10,000 AND WE DON'T GIVE THEM THE FULL, WE GIVE THEM A QUARTER AT A TIME AND ONCE THEY DRAW DOWN, WE GIVE THEM ANOTHER $25,000.

SO IF MR CLAUDIA, IF THEY WERE TO CONSUME THE $10,000 AND RELOCATE, UH, ANOTHER 40 PEOPLE IN THE NEXT THREE MONTHS, I WOULD COME BACK AND TELL THE COUNCIL, HEY, NOW WE'RE BEYOND MY BUDGET PER VIEW BECAUSE I CAN'T CONTINUE TO ADOPT CONTRACTS.

I THINK WE SHOULD DO THIS.

I THINK IT MAKES SENSE.

YEAH.

AT 18 MONTHS I DIDN'T SEE IT ON HERE, SO THAT NOW I GET THE WHOLE SCOPE OF IT.

THANK YOU STEVE.

AND THEN GARY.

SO THIS IS VERY SUCCESSFUL FOR THOSE THAT WANT TO GET OFF THE STREET.

WE HAVE RESOURCES, WE HAVE FUNDS, WE HAVE PARTNERS.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THOSE THAT DON'T WANT OFF THE STREET? THAT'S KIND OF ALSO SOMETHING WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT.

AT THE TOWN HALL MEETING, THE CITY MANAGER PRESENTED, UM, STATISTICS THAT WE'VE PICKED UP OVER I BELIEVE 68,000 POUNDS OF TRASH OFF THE STREETS OF OKLAHOMA, UH, RELATED TO RELATED TO SOME OF THOSE WHO DON'T WANT OFF THE STREET.

SO NOW WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP.

UH, I AM GOING TO PROPOSE IN MARCH, UH, THAT THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY CONSIDER ROTATIONAL NIGHT SHELTERS.

THEY WOULD BE OPEN FOR NIGHTS ONLY.

THEY WOULD BE ON A ROTATING BASIS FOR A VERY SHORT TIME, ONE TO TWO WEEKS IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE CITY SO THAT EVERY PART OF THE CITY CONTRIBUTES TO THE SOLUTION.

WE DON'T EARMARK ONE PART OF THE CITY FOR A PERMANENT THING.

AND ESPECIALLY WE SAW THE VALUE HERE OF OUR, OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS, UH, EFE TLC, SALVATION ARMY CRISIS HOUSE.

THEY'RE GOOD AT WHAT THEY DO.

THEY KNOW THIS COMMUNITY, SALVATION ARMY HAS SAID WHEN WE BUILD, OUR NEW COMMUNITY CENTER SHOULD BE OPEN THIS AUGUST.

WE'RE READY TO BE A COLD WEATHER SHELTER.

SO WHY CAN'T THE CITY INCENTIVIZE SALVATION ARMY TO PROVIDE SHELTERS THAT NIGHT FOR PEOPLE ON THE STREET? THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME ACCOUNTABILITY WITH THAT OPTION AS WELL.

UH, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS, BUT I THINK THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, TALK ABOUT ROTATIONAL NIGHT SHELTERS FOR THE NEXT LEVEL.

FOR THOSE THAT DON'T WANT OFF THE STREET.

WE SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, IT'S COLD OUTSIDE AND YOU HAVE TO GET INTO A SHELTER TONIGHT AND OFF THE STREET AND WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO PICK UP 68,000 POUNDS OF TRASH.

WE HEARD THIS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WE'VE HEARD IT FROM THE COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.

I APPLAUD THE, THE STAFF'S EFFORT WITH THE, UH, COMMUNITY PARTNERS.

I THINK WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL AND THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HOMELESS.

IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE REST OF THE BUSINESS OWNERS.

IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND LET'S TALK ABOUT IT SOME MORE IN MARCH.

JUST A COMMENT THAT, UH, ONE THING WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND IS THERE'S A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF HOMELESS THAT ARE PERFECTLY HAPPY IN THEIR SITUATION.

THEY DON'T WANT TO QUIT USING THE DRUGS.

THEY DON'T WANT TO QUIT USING THE ALCOHOL AND THEY LIKE STAYING ON THE STREETS.

SO THERE'S ONLY A CERTAIN NUMBER THAT ANY GIVEN TIME THAT WANT TO MAKE THEIR LIVES BETTER AND THERE'S A CERTAIN NUMBER THAT WANT TO CONTINUE THEIR SELF DESTRUCTIVE BEHAVIOR AND THAT MAY BE SOME ISSUE WITH MENTAL HEALTH, UH, OR SOMETHING WITH THE COUNTY OR THE STATE CAUSE THAT'S MORE IN THEIR PURVIEW.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT.

ANGELA, DO WE HAVE A DISPUTE CARDS WITH THIS ITEM? YES SIR.

WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER, BONNIE PRICE.

I BOUGHT IT.

I UH, CONGRATULATIONS TO THE COUNTY SUPERVISORS.

THEY FINALLY DIPPED INTO THEIR, UM, $2 BILLION SURPLUS A BIT TO HELP, UH, PROVIDE HOUSING FOR THE ASYLUM SEEKERS.

UH, THIS JUST HAPPENED AND UH, THERE WERE THREE SUPERVISORS WHO DID THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF ANY MONEY FROM THE SUPERVISORS IS AVAILABLE TO ELKA HOME, BUT IF IT IS, I SUGGEST THAT, UH, YOU LEARN WHAT AMOUNT IS AVAILABLE.

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UH, ONE REASON SOME PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE TO BE INVOLVED IN THE HOMELESS SHELTER PROGRAMS YOU HAVE IS BECAUSE THEY ARE RELIGIOUS IN NATURE AND EACH COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER AND THE SALVATION ARMY ARE BOTH IN THAT KIND OF, UH, ARRANGEMENT.

AND I'VE HEARD PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THAT.

SO I KNOW IT'S A DETERRENT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH, BUT IT IS.

MMM.

AND I'M NOT CASTING ASPERSIONS ON THE PROGRAM, I'M SAYING, BUT SOME PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE THE RELIGIOUS PART.

AND I THINK WHAT HELPED PEOPLE TO KNOW THAT THE EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER HAS BOTH A PLAN AND PROGRAM FOR THOSE WHO GO IN FOR THE RELIGIOUS SIDE OF LIFE AND THOSE WHO DON'T AND THEY'RE TREATED DIFFERENTLY DEPENDING ON WHETHER THEY'RE IN THE RELIGIOUS PART OR THE NON-RELIGIOUS PART.

MMM.

I UNDERSTAND FROM TALKING TO PEOPLE IN THE EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER THAT THEY HAVE HAD TO SIGN OVER THEIR SOCIAL WELFARE BENEFITS TO EACH COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER.

AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT KIND OF INCOME THAT GIVES THE CENTER, BUT IT DOES HELP.

AND SINCE THE CITY IS MAKING DONATIONS THAT ARE QUITE SUBSTANTIAL, IT WOULD BE, UH, IMPORTANT FOR THE CITY TO KNOW EXACTLY HOW THAT'S BEING HANDLED WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE HOMELESS.

AND I WOULD ASK YOU TO INVESTIGATE THAT.

THANK YOU BONNIE.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE MONEY THAT THE CITY CONTRIBUTES GOES TOWARDS, UH, UP TO 28 DAYS OF EMERGENCY SHELTER TO PAY FOR THE ROOM FOR THOSE THAT NEED EMERGENCY SHELTER FOR 28 DAYS.

IT HAS NO RELIGIOUS ASPECT TO IT AT ALL.

IT IS AKIN TO RENTING A MOTEL ROOM FOR UP TO 28 DAYS.

AND THAT WOULD BE THE CITY'S, UH, CONTRIBUTION THAT WE CAN RESTRICT HOW THAT MONEY IS USED.

AND THAT'S ONE OF THE CONDITIONS IS THAT IT'S NOT PART OF THEIR FAITH BASED PROGRAM, BUT MERELY A SHELTER PROGRAM.

THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH, UH, THEY RECEIVE AN INCOME FROM SOCIAL SAFETY NET BENEFITS? THE ONLY THING THAT I'M AWARE OF IS THAT SOME OF THEM HAVE ELECTRONIC BENEFITS CARDS, WHICH IS A CALFRESH OR THE, THE OLD FOOD STAMPS PROGRAM IS NOW ON A DEBIT CARD.

AND I BELIEVE ON SOME OCCASIONS THEY SWIPE THE CARD TO HELP PAY FOR THEIR MEAL.

YEAH.

WELL I UNDERSTOOD FROM SOMEONE WHO WORKED IN HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES THAT THERE WAS AN ARRANGEMENT DIRECTLY WITH THE COUNTY TO HAVE THAT MONEY GO.

AS SOON AS THOSE HOMELESS PEOPLE SHOW UP, UH, THAT AMOUNT IS ALLOCATED TO EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER.

WELL, WE HAVE HAROLD BROWN HERE.

HAROLD, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION? WELL MUFFLED SO I COULDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ISSUE IS.

UM, THIS PRICE IS SAYING THAT IF YOU COME AND STAY AT YOUR SHELTER, YOU HAVE TO SIGN OVER YOUR, YOUR, UH, SSI OR SOCIAL SECURITY BENEFITS OR WELFARE BENEFITS TO, TO THE SHELTER? NO, THE WAY THE WAY EBT WORKS, UM, EBT IS ISSUED TO INDIVIDUALS SO THAT THEY CAN BUY THEIR MEALS.

UM, INITIALLY I WAS NOT TAKING ANY EBT FROM ANYBODY UNTIL, UH, THE, UH, COUNTY WELFARE INFORMED ME THAT I WAS PARTICIPATING IN INDIVIDUAL'S WELFARE FRAUD.

SO, IN OTHER WORDS, IF I FEED THEM AND THEY GET MONEY FOR FOOD AND THEY'RE NOT PAYING FOR THE MONEY FOR THE FOOD, BUT THEY'RE GETTING MONEY FOR FOOD BUT THEY'RE GETTING FED FOR FREE, THEN THERE'S A FRAUD HAPPENING.

SO THEY EITHER HAVE THE CHOICE OF GOING DOWN AND GETTING OFF EBT OR UM, PROVIDING TWO THIRDS OF THEIR EBT FOR THE MEALS THAT THEY RECEIVE WITH US.

UM, AS FAR AS, UM, WELFARE OR ANYTHING ELSE, UM, FOR THE 28 DAY EMERGENCY SHELTER PROGRAM, THERE IS NO CHARGE.

UH, THE CITY, THE CDBG FUNDS COVERS THE COST OF THE INDIVIDUAL BEING THERE.

THERE IS NO PROSTATE RELATION GOING ON.

THERE'S NO RELIGIOUS ACTIVITIES.

THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT TO ATTEND ANY RELIGIOUS SERVICES.

WE'VE BEEN INVESTIGATED BY HUD AND, UH, HAS COME UP WITH SHINING, SHINING COLORS.

WE DON'T DO IT.

UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT PART OF THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM.

THAT PROGRAM IS FOCUSED ON JUST GETTING THEM INTO EITHER PERMANENT SHELTER, BACK HOME OR INTO A LONGTERM PROGRAM WHERE THEY CAN RECEIVE

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BENEFITS.

HAROLD, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE PRETTY EFFICIENT OUT THERE AT FEEDING PEOPLE.

WHAT DOES IT COST YOU GENERALLY PER MEAL? WELL, THE COST THAT WE HAVE PER MEAL, BECAUSE WE GO AROUND AS PART OF THE FOOD BANK AND, AND RECEIVE ALL OF THE FOOD AND THEN REPORT THAT BACK TO THE FOOD BANK.

IT'S ABOUT 17 CENTS A MEAL AND THAT'S A LOT BETTER THAN GOING TO MCDONALD'S WITH THEIR EBT CARD THEN.

YEAH.

SO, UM, EBT, IT'S, IT'S REQUIRED THAT THEY ACTUALLY PAY FOR THEIR MEALS.

THEY GET THE MONEY FOR THE FOOD.

THEY, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PAY FOR IT.

SO THAT'S, AND IT WASN'T US DETERMINING HOW MUCH THEY SHOULD PAY.

IT WAS UH, THE WELFARE PROGRAM.

IT TOLD US HOW MUCH WE WERE SUPPOSED TO TAKE AND WE ARE A SNAP.

IT'S CALLED A SNAP PROVIDER.

UM, JUST LIKE ANY OTHER GROCERY STORE OR ANYTHING ELSE, UH, WOULD SLIDE THE CARD AND PAY FOR FOOD.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY THAT WORKS.

GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR COMING, PASTOR.

CLEAR IT UP.

THANKS FOR GETTING MANDARIN EXPLANATION.

THANK YOU.

NO MORE SPEAKERS, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

THIS WAS AN INFORMATIONAL ONLY ADAM.

THERE'S NO MOTION TO BE NEEDED UNLESS ANYBODY ELSE WANTED TO DISCUSS IT SOME MORE.

I WANT TO MOVE ON.

THEN ITEM 14 IS AN UPDATE OF THE CITY OF ALCOHOLICS HOMELESS PRO OR WE JUST DID THAT, DIDN'T KNOW W IT WAS SO GOOD.

I WANTED TO DO AGAIN.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

THERE ARE NO COMMISSION REPORTS TODAY.

[13. ACTIVITIES REPORTS/COMMENTS OF MAYOR WELLS: SANDAG (San Diego Association of Governments); SANDAG Public Relations Selection Committee; League of California Cities, San Diego Division; Heartland Fire Training JPA – Alternate; LAFCO.]

ITEM 15 IS MY ACTIVITIES REPORT AND I AM.

16 IS A LEGISLATIVE REPORT, SB 50 PROPOSALS, CERTAIN CHANGES TO THE CURRENT DENSITY BONUS LAW AND INTRODUCES THE CONCEPT OF AN EQUITABLE COMMUNITIES INCENTIVE FOR PROJECTS PROPOSED IN A JOB RICH ENVIRONMENT OR TRANSIT RICH ENVIRONMENT.

THE BILL IS ACTIVE AND HAS BEEN REFERRED TO THE HOUSING COMMITTEE.

THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES POSITION ON THE BILL IS TO WATCH AND WE WILL HAVE MORE UPDATES ON THIS PROGRESS AS IT GOES ALONG.

[14. ACTIVITIES REPORTS/COMMENTS OF COUNCILMEMBERS:]

NOW WE'RE ACTIVITIES OF COUNCIL MEMBERS AND COUNCIL MEMBER KAREN KENDRICK AS REPORTED COUNCIL MEMBER BOB MCCLONE AS REPORTED COUNCIL MEMBER BEN COLLAGIO.

THERE IS, I HAVE REPORTED THEM DEPUTY MAYOR STEVE GOBLE AS REPORTED

[21. Service Request Application for Mobile Devices and Computers]

AND ITEM 21 IS A JOINT COUNSELOR REPORT FROM DEPUTY MAYOR CALDWELL AND COUNSELOR KENDRICK GENTLEMEN.

WELL COUNCIL MEMBER KENDRICK AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO INVESTIGATE THE COST OF, OF A MOBILE PHONE APPS SPECIFICALLY TO REPORT ISSUES.

CURRENTLY IF YOU WANT TO REPORT GRAFFITI, UH, YOU HAVE TO CALL A GRAFFITI HOTLINE.

YOU HAVE TO KIND OF VERBALLY DESCRIBE WHERE IT IS.

IT'S ON THE SIDEWALK ACROSS FROM DE LA FUENTE BUT THERE'S NO ADDRESS THERE.

SO IT'S KIND OF GO ACROSS FROM DAILY FRONT DAY AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'LL FIND THE GRAFFITI AND YOU HOPE THAT GETS TRANSLATED INTO SOMETHING HELPFUL FOR THE OTHER END.

FOR SHOPPING CARTS, YOU GOT A CALL A A 800 NUMBER AND YOU GET AHOLD OF A CONTRACTOR AND ANSWERING SERVICE AGAIN.

YOU GOT TO DESCRIBE, UH, WHO'S, WHO'S THE SHOPPING CART BELONGED TO, WHERE IS IT AT? WELL, IT'S KIND OF AT THE CORNER, BUT NOT REALLY AT THE CORNER.

IT'S ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET UP FROM THE CORNER OF MADISON AND MELODY OR MAIN AND MELODY AND, AND SO IT'S KIND OF AWKWARD.

THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO AND THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO HAVE GREAT APPS WHERE YOU HAVE ALL SORTS OF ISSUES.

YOU CAN REPORT JUST IN ONE SCREEN.

AND IN ADDITION YOU CAN TAKE A PHOTO RIGHT THERE, UH, FROM THAT APP AND IT KNOWS YOUR GPS COORDINATES IF YOU'VE ALLOWED THAT ON YOUR PHONE.

AND THAT WOULD ALLOW, THE ADVANTAGE OF THAT IS IT ALLOWS CITY STAFF TO LOOK AT THE ISSUE AND PERHAPS EVEN PRIORITIZE THE ISSUE BASED ON WHAT THEY SEE IN THE PHOTO.

AND SO WE THINK THAT THAT'S A GREAT TOOL THAT WE COULD ENHANCE.

UM, I MYSELF TRIED TO REPORT SOME, UH, SCOOTERS THAT WERE KIND OF TOSSED ASIDE BY TAKING THE PHOTO.

UNFORTUNATELY, IT WASN'T AS SUCCESSFUL AS I WOULD'VE HOPED TO HAVE BEEN.

SO WE THINK THIS APP, IF IT'S USED BY OTHER CITIES, MAYBE WE CAN PIGGYBACK ON THE COST.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S AN ANNUAL LICENSING FEE THAT MAKES IT PROHIBITIVE, BUT WE THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK INTO ITS USE IN OKLAHOMA.

WELL, I DON'T THINK WE HAD TO REINVENT THE WHEEL HERE.

IT APPEARS TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS.

AND I THINK IT BEARS LOOKING INTO, SO YOU WANT TO ASK THE STAFF TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND COME BACK WITH A REPORT? THAT'S CORRECT.

SORRY, I, WHEN I, WHEN I RECENTLY READ THIS ON HERE, IT WAS A GREAT IDEA.

UH, I BROUGHT IT TO DOUG'S ATTENTION.

IT WAS LIKE IN 2017 BEFORE YOU LEFT, LIKE AN APRIL OR SOMETHING.

I WENT THROUGH MY EMAILS AND HE SAYS EVERYTHING TO WHAT THEY SAID WITH ADDITION TO THAT, THE APP WOULD

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BE TIED INTO LIKE THE DISPATCH SO THAT PEOPLE, SO THAT THE DISPATCHER WOULD KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT.

BUT, UM, HE SAID THAT WHOEVER WAS REDESIGNING THE WEBSITE AT THAT TIME AND THE MONIES THAT WERE ALLOCATED FOR THAT ALSO COVERED THE, THE APP.

AND THAT'S WHY I HAD NEVER BROUGHT IT OR THAT'S WHY I ABANDONED IT.

SO, UH, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN THE MONEY'S ALREADY THERE BECAUSE THAT'S, I REMEMBER THAT MEETING PRETTY VIVIDLY.

CAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS, UH, THAT I BROUGHT IN WAS THAT, AND HE SAID THAT BECAUSE OF THE, THE WEBSITE WAS GETTING REDONE AND THE MONEY'S WAS ALREADY THERE, THAT THE APP WAS ALREADY INCLUDED.

SO JUST MAYBE CHECK ON THAT.

I THINK, I THINK WHAT, AND I DON'T, I WASN'T PART OF PRIVY TO THAT CONVERSATION, BUT AS I RECALL AT ONE POINT WE WERE UPGRADING OUR WEBSITE AND I THINK THE HOPE WAS THAT IT WOULD BE EASIER TO REPORT VIA THE WEBSITE.

AND SO THERE WAS MONEY ALLOCATED FOR UPGRADING THE WEBSITE.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT ACHIEVED THE GOAL OF MAKING IT EASIER.

SO I DON'T KNOW EITHER.

BUT OBVIOUSLY FOR ME, UH, GENERATION X OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, I WAS LIKE, WE NEED AN APP TO DO EXACTLY THAT, SHOPPING CARTS, GRAFFITI AND TO PINPOINT LOCATION, TYING IT INTO THE CALL CENTER BECAUSE THAT ELIMINATES HALF THE, YOU KNOW, CAN I GET YOUR LOCATION? THEY ALREADY KNOW.

UM, AND I, I REMEMBER AND I LOOKED BACK AT MY NOTES, HE SAID THAT THAT WAS, CAUSE USUALLY WHEN YOU GET A WEBSITE NOWADAYS IT'S, IT'S IN CORRELATION WITH AN APP.

IT'S, I MEAN THEY GO HAND IN HAND.

SO YEAH, CHECK THAT.

IF WE'RE GOING TO PAY AGAIN, YOU KNOW THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD NOT BE IDEAL STEVE.

YOU ARE CORRECT.

YOU CAN HAVE A MOBILE VERSION OF A WEBSITE ACCOMPLISH THE SAME THING AS AN APP AND OFTEN IT'S MORE EFFICIENT RATHER THAN TO HAVE A SEPARATE APPLICATION.

IN THIS CASE, THE MOBILE VERSION OF OUR WEBSITE IS NOT WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE.

AND I TRIED TO SUBMIT A PHOTO VIA THE CITY WEBSITE AND THE WITH MY IPHONE AND THERE WOULD NOT ALLOW ME TO SUBMIT IT BECAUSE THE IPHONE FINAL FORMAT IS NOT ACCEPTED BY OUR CITY WEBSITE.

SO LET'S BE AWARE THAT WE CAN'T SAY, WELL WE'RE JUST NOT SEEING THE NUMBER OF USES ON OUR CITY WEBSITE TO JUSTIFY THE COST.

BECAUSE I WAS AN EXAMPLE WHERE I COULDN'T SUBMIT ONE, SO I'M NOT GOING TO COUNT BECAUSE I WASN'T SUCCESSFUL.

SO LET'S NOT CONSIDER CURRENT USAGE AS PART OF THE OPPORTUNITY IN THAT.

WELL THE SUBS IS FOR INFORMATION.

I WAS THE ONLY STAFF.

YOU'RE GONNA LOOK INTO THIS AND COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION.

I THINK THE COUNCIL IS REQUIRED TO DIRECT STAFF TO BRING THE REPORT BACK.

THEN CAN WE MAKE A MOTION TO DO JUST THAT? I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT STAFF INVESTIGATE, UH, MOBILE APPS FOR USE AND COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION WITHIN 90 DAYS.

SECOND.

ALL RIGHT, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

NO, THANKS GENTLEMEN.

GOOD IDEA.

ALL RIGHT.

THERE ARE NO READINGS OF FIRST ORDINANCES.

[23. Ordinance Adding Chapter 16.56 to the El Cajon Municipal Code for the Creation of Easements by Recorded Covenants RECOMMENDATION: That Mayor Wells request the City Clerk to recite the title. An Ordinance adding a new Chapter 16.56 to the El Cajon Municipal Code Addressing Easements]

I AM 23 IS THE SECOND READING AND ADOPTION OF AN ORGANIST ADDING CHAPTER 16.56 TO THE ALCOHOL AND MUNICIPAL CODE.

I'LL ASK THE CITY CLERK TO READ THE TITLE, BUT FIRST, ANGELA, ARE THERE ANY SPIRIT CARS FOR THIS ITEM? NO CARD, SIR.

AND THE TITLE AND ORDINANCE ADDING A NEW CHAPTER 16.56 TO THE OKLAHOMA MUNICIPAL CODE ADDRESSING EAST MYTHS, GRIT AND THAT WE NEED A BEING EMOTIONAL ON THIS.

TEKKEN MOVING SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

I'M SORRY.

I DO NEED TO RESET THE VOTE.

PLEASE VOTE.

ALRIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

[24. Ordinance Amending Chapter 2.12 of the El Cajon Municipal Code related to City Council Procedures RECOMMENDATION: That Mayor Wells requests the City Clerk to recite the title. An ordinance amending Chapter 2.12 of the El Cajon Municipal Code Relating to City Council Procedures]

I'M 24 AS THE SECOND READING ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 2.12 OF THE OKLAHOMA MUNICIPAL CODE.

I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CITY CLERK TO READ THE TITLE.

BUT FIRST, ANGELA, ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM? WE DO HAVE ONE SPEAKER, ROBERT CLARK.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

AGAIN, MY NAME IS ROBERT CLARK AND I'VE LIVED IN THE CITY OF ALCOHOL FOR ABOUT 24 YEARS.

AND I WANT TO STRONGLY SUPPORT THESE PROPOSED CHANGES TO SEE COUNCIL MEETINGS.

WE'VE HAD SOME MEETINGS THAT HAVE BEEN, UH, ACTUALLY CHAOTIC AND PEOPLE HAVE USED OBSCENITIES AND CREATED DISRUPTIONS AND NO ONE HAS STEPPED UP TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

SO I HOPE IF THIS IS ADOPTED, UH, THAT WON'T BE THE CASE ANYMORE.

AND ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IS THAT SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK AT PUBLIC COMMENT SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO GIVE THEIR, THEIR NAME, SPELL OUT THEIR LAST NAME, AND

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ALSO IDENTIFY THE CITY THAT THEY LIVE IN.

WE'VE HAD PEOPLE FROM, UH, THE CITY OF NATIONAL CITY, FOR EXAMPLE, COME IN HERE AND PUBLIC COMMENT AND TAKE UP THREE MINUTES OF EVERYBODY'S TIME TALKING ABOUT A CITY THEY DON'T EVEN LIVE IN.

AND IT WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME KIND OF BOUNDARIES ESTABLISHED IN SOME OF THAT LIST OUTSIDE THOSE BANDER BOUNDARIES WOULD BE LIMITED TO JUST ONE MINUTE OF PUBLIC COMMENT TIME RATHER THAN THREE MINUTES.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SIR.

BEN.

THANK YOU.

UH, ONE SECOND.

BOB.

JUST SO FOR CLARITY, WHAT YOU JUST SAID IS IN TAO AND WHEN YOU SAID YOU SUPPORTED THE ORDINANCE, WHAT YOU SAID ISN'T HOW THIS ORDINANCE WOULD, IS WRITTEN.

SO YOU, SO JUST SO YOU KNOW.

OKAY.

SO YOU'D BE IN OPPOSITION OF THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN.

THANK YOU FOR STRAIGHTENING ME OUT.

THANKS CHIEF.

MR. CLARK, WHAT IF SOMEBODY FROM NATIONAL CITY REPRESENTS THE OPINIONS OF PEOPLE IN ALCOHOL WHO AREN'T ABLE TO BE HERE TO SPEAK? WELL, I, I DON'T KNOW WHY SOME INDIVIDUAL FROM NATIONAL CITY WOULD BE SELECTED BY PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE TO COME TO A COUNCIL MEETING AND EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS OR THAT DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT TO ME.

VERY LIKELY THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN.

PUT OTHERWISE, LET'S SAY A PERSON FROM EL CAHONE, UH, WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO A TOPIC, BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE AND THEY GET A FRIEND OR RELATIVE OUTSIDE THE CITY OF ALCOHOL AND TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEW, SHOULD WE CONSIDER THAT THEY SHOULD GET A FRIEND OR A RELATIVE THAT LIVES IN OKLAHOMA.

THAT'S SIMPLE.

WE ALSO HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE PEOPLE DO BUSINESS IN OKLAHOMA AND THAT THAT MATTERS TO THEM, BUT THEY DON'T LIVE IN L KONG.

THERE ARE LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO LIVE VERY CLOSE TO ALCOHOL THAT DON'T LIVE IN OFFICIALLY THE CITY BOUNDARIES.

SO IT, IT'S A FAIRNESS ISSUE AND IT'S ALSO, UM, IT'S A CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE AND PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT OF FREE SPEECH AND WE CAN'T REGULATE THAT SPEECH.

LESS DISRUPTIVE.

WELL IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU DEFINE FREE SPEECH, UH, DEFINE IT BY YOUR CONSCIOUS ATTENTION CONSTITUTION TO FIND THAT.

BUT I APPRECIATE, I APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR POINTS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANKS.

THANKS.

APPRECIATE YOUR APPRECIATION.

OKAY, WELL THAT'S THE LAST SPEAKER TITLE FOR THAT IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 2.12 OF THE OKLAHOMA MUNICIPAL CODE RELATING TO CITY COUNCIL PROCEDURES.

ALL RIGHT.

CAUSE WE HAVE A MOTION ON THAT PLEASE.

SO MOVE SECOND ONE SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY A FOUR OH ONE VOTE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER COLLAGE OF VOTING.

NO.

[25. Ordinance Rezoning the Family Health Center Expansion - proposed general plan amendment, zone reclassification, and site development plan permit for a medical office building - 525 East Main Street. RECOMMENDATION: That Mayor Wells requests the City Clerk to recite the title. An Ordinance rezoning property located on the East side of Taft Avenue between East Main Street and East Lexington Avenue: APN: 488-233-51, from the P (Parking) to C-G (General Commercial); General Plan Designation; General Commerical (GC). ]

ALL RIGHT.

I'M 25 WAS A SECOND READING ADOPTION OF A PROPOSED GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT ZERO RECLASSIFICATION AND SITE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR A MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING LOCATED AT FIVE 25 EAST MAIN STREET.

I'D LIKE TO ASK THE CITY CLERK TO READ THE TITLE, BUT FIRST, ANGELA, ARE THERE ANY SPRINT CARDS FOR THIS ITEM? NO CARD, SIR.

THE TITLE IS AN ORDINANCE REZONING PROPERTY LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF TAFT AVENUE BETWEEN EAST MAIN STREET AND EAST LEXINGTON AVENUE, APN.

FOUR EIGHT EIGHT TWO THREE THREE FIVE ONE FROM THE P AND C G GENERAL COMMERCIAL GENERAL PLAN.

THIS IGNATION GENERAL COMMERCIAL.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THAT.

PLEASE DON'T MOVE.

IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND.

MOVING THE SECOND ONE PLEASE.

VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANGELA.

[23. CLOSED SESSIONS:]

WE ARE NOT CLOSED SESSION.

OUR CITY ATTORNEY WILL, UH, RECITE THE TITLE AND LEAD US IN THE CLOSED SESSION.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

THE CITY COUNCIL V UM, RECESSING INTO CLOSED SESSION ON THREE ITEMS. UH, EACH OF THEM ARE INVOLVING LITIGATION.

THE FIRST IS A CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL FOR ANTICIPATED LITIGATION.

SIGNIFICANT EXPOSURE OF LITIGATION PURSUANT TO PARAGRAPH TWO OF SUBDIVISION D OF SECTION FIVE FOUR NINE FIVE 6.9 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE.

THERE'S ONE POTENTIAL CASE IT'S RELATED TO THE CLAIM OF UH, MUHAMMAD HODGE HAMMAD ON BEHALF OF THE MINOR MICE HODGE COHMAD.

THE SECOND IS CLOSED SESSION FOR CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL.

EXISTING LITIGATION PURSUANT TO PARAGRAPH WARN, A SUBDIVISION D OF GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION FIVE FOUR NINE FIVE 6.9 THE NAME OF THE CASE IS ALCOHOL IS A INCLUDES ALCOHOL AND POLICE OFFICER'S ASSOCIATION VERSUS A CITY OF ALCOHOL.

AND THE THIRD IS A CLOSED SESSION OF, WE ACTUALLY HAVE FOUR, I'M SORRY.

THIRD IS A CLOSED SESSION FOR CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL ON EXISTING LITIGATION PURSUANT TO PARAGRAPH ONE, A SUBDIVISION D OF GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION FIVE FOUR NINE FIVE 6.9 CITY OF EL CAHONE VERSUS ASSP CS LLC AND CLOUD NINE WELLNESS.

AND THE FOURTH IS CLOSED SESSION FOR CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL.

ANTICIPATED LITIGATION, WHETHER TO INITIATE LITIGATION PURSUANT TO PARAGRAPH FOUR OF SUBDIVISION D OF GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION FIVE FOUR NINE FIVE 6.9.

THERE'S ONE

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POTENTIAL CASE.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'LL BE GOING INTO CLOSED SESSION AND COME BACK IN SHORT PERIOD OF TIME TO CONCLUDE THE MEETING.

UH, LET'S MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE CLOSED SESSION.

DON'T MOVE.

MOVING.

SECOND PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE BACK FROM CLOSED SESSION AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY WILL REPORT ON WHAT HAPPENED.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

THE CITY COUNCIL MET IN CLOSED SESSION, UH, FOR ITEMS OF, UH, LITIGATION IN THE FIRST CASE.

A ITEM 26 DIRECTION WAS GIVEN TO ITS LEGAL COUNSEL ON THE SECOND ITEM 27, UH, DIRECTION WAS GIVEN TO THE LEGAL COUNSEL ON THE THIRD ITEM.

NUMBER 28.

UH, UH, DIRECTION WAS GIVEN TO THE LEGAL COUNSEL AND THEN 29 NO ACTION WAS TAKEN.

THANK YOU.

THIS BRINGS US TO A GERMAN AT THE REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE ALCOHOL AND CITY COUNCIL AND OKLAHOMA HOUSING AUTHORITY HELD THIS 12TH DAY OF FEBRUARY, 2019 IS ADJOURN TILL TUESDAY, FEBRUARY SIX, 2019.

AT 3:00 PM THANK YOU.