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[ CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Bill Wells]

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WELCOME TO THE EVENING SESSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THE ALCOHOL CITY COUNCIL MEETING.

THE MEETING IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CITY CLERK TO CALL THE ROLE.

OH, COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

THANK YOU.

WOULD YOU PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? SO REMAIN STANDING FOR A BRIEF MOMENT OF SILENCE AND COULD I HAVE THE HONORABLE MARK ROLLBACK COME UP AND LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE PLEASE? LET'S SEE HERE.

ON BEHALF OF THE OKLAHOMA MAIN TREAT FLOOD COMMITTEE, PUT YOUR HAND OVER YOUR HEART.

READY? BEGIN.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU.

[ AGENDA CHANGES:]

OKAY, WE WILL START WITH AGENDA CHANGES.

STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANY AGENDA CHANGES, MR MAYOR? NO CHANGES TO THE AGENDA COUNCIL MEMBERS? NO.

[ PUBLIC COMMENT: At this time, any person may address a matter within the jurisdiction of the City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the El Cajon Redevelopment Agency that is not on the Agenda. Comments relating to items on today’s docket are to be taken at the time the item is heard. State law prohibits discussion or action on items not on the Agenda; however, Council, Authority and Agency Members may briefly respond to statements or questions. An item may be placed on a future Agenda.]

IT TAKES US TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS A MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNSEL HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE ALCOHOL REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.

THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

COMMENTS RELATED TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA ARE TO BE TAKEN AT THE TIME THAT THE ANIMAS HEARD STATE LAW PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

HOWEVER, COUNCIL AUTHORITY AND AGENCY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND TO STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS AND AN ITEM AND BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT? YES SIR.

WE HAVE TWO SPEAKERS.

THE FIRST ONE IS NATALIE ANN THOMPSON.

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HI NATALIE.

WELCOME.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.

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UM, I WOULD ASK JUST A LITTLE BIT EXTRA TIME TO SPEAK BECAUSE I DO GET SHORT OF BREATH.

THAT'S FINE.

THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.

SIR.

SORRY.

I'VE USED ACCUSED OF SPEAKING IN COURT.

UM, MY NAME IS NATALIE THOMPSON AND I HAVE BEEN A LONGTERM RESIDENT OF EL CAHONE FOR OVER 30 YEARS.

I HAVE BROUGHT IN MOST OF MY, ALL OF MY CHILDREN EXCEPT FOR ONE INTO THIS COMMUNITY.

MY CHILDREN HAVE MARRIED OUT OF THIS COMMUNITY AND I HAVE GOING ON SEVEN CHILDREN.

I HAVE INVESTED OVER 75% TO 80% OF MY EDUCATION AT BOTH GROSSMONT AND UM, QUEEN MACA COLLEGE WHERE I GRADUATED WITH THE MINISTRY OF JUSTICE DEGREE EVIDENCE TECHNOLOGY AND I WENT ON TO POINT LOMA NAZARENE FOR MY BACHELOR'S OF SCIENCE AND NURSING AND I'VE BEEN PRACTICING AS A HOSPICE NURSE FOR 12 YEARS.

I HAVE NOT LIVED WITHOUT, UH, WITHIN, I'VE LIVED WITHIN A TWO MILE RADIUS FOR THESE PAST 30 YEARS AND SO HAVE MY CHILDREN.

UNFORTUNATELY NONE OF MY CHILDREN CAN RESIDE IN EL CAHONE OR SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA ANYMORE AND NOR CAN I, I AM NOW FORCED TO MOVE TO SPRING VALLEY AND ADDRESS IN A ZIP CODE THAT I HAVE NOT BEEN AT SINCE THE ENTIRE TIME I MOVED DOWN HERE FROM THE TIME I WAS 19 YEARS OLD.

I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED IN THIS COUNCIL AND THIS CITY FOR THE WAY THEY HAVE MAINTAINED THE PROPERTIES IN OKLAHOMA.

I AM CURRENTLY RESIDING AT A PROPERTY THAT I PAY ALMOST $1,900 A MONTH FOR.

MY HUSBAND IS A VETERAN AND WE CANNOT QUALIFY FOR A HOME LOAN.

ALL I SEE THIS CITY DOING IS DEVELOPING RICH PARTS OF THIS COMMUNITY AND I'M ANGRY.

I HAVE INVESTED SO MUCH TIME AND ENERGY AND I GET NOTHING BACK.

MY TAXES ARE GONE TO THE RICH, NOT THE MIDDLE CLASS, NOT THE LOWER CLASS.

THE RICH AND I SEE IT AS THE DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES IN THIS CITY AND IT'S VERY SAD TO SEE PART OF YOU WHO ARE YOUNGER THAN ME, WEALTHIER AND OWNING HOMES AND I CANNOT.

I CURRENTLY LIVE IN A PLACE THAT WAS CONVERTED FROM HORSE STABLES BY THE GRANITE HILLS HIGH SCHOOL IN THE 60S AND IT'S A FOUR BEDROOM, ONE BATH DUMP.

I HAVE MOLD GROWING ON FOUR OF MY WALLS.

MY FLOORS ARE FLOODED, MY CL, MY FRONT DOOR DOES NOT LOCK.

I HAVE BEEN, I'VE BEEN EXPOSED TO A YEAR AND A HALF LONG GAS LEAK THAT THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA, THE SDG, ANY AND THE MANAGER WAS, WOULD NOT FIX.

AND AS A RESULT, I HAVE NOW SUFFERED MENTAL AND PHYSICAL DISABILITIES AND I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO WORK SINCE NOVEMBER.

AND I'VE BEEN IN THE HOSPITAL, I'VE LOST OVER 40 POUNDS AND I'M STILL FACING A COUNCIL FULL OF MEN THAT WON'T DO ANYTHING AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY.

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WHY ARE WE LIVING LIKE THIS? WHY ARE YOU SUBJECTING US TO LIVE LIKE THIS AS TENANTS, 50% OF OUR POPULATION IN THE CITY ARE TENANTS.

THAT'S SAD.

OUR CITY SHOULD NOT BE OPERATING ON A DEFICIT AND NOR SHOULD THEY ALLOW OUR LANDLORDS TO BE OPERATING AT DEFICIT EITHER ARE.

MY CURRENT LOT OWNER OWNS OVER $5 MILLION ON HIS PROPERTIES.

THAT'S SCARY TO ME.

WE ARE NOT A DEBT FREE SOCIETY OR A DEBT FREE CITY AND WE SHOULD BE.

THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE CAN SUPPORT OURSELVES.

HOW CAN WE CAN TURN AROUND OUR COMMUNITY IF WE ALLOW LANDLORDS LIKE THIS TO, TO WREAK HAVOC.

I JUST WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT THAT IF SOMEBODY ON THIS COUNCILMAN WOULD REALLY STAND UP AND LISTEN TO US CITIZENS AND TAKE CARE OF WHAT WE HAVE.

WE'RE HARDWORKING PROVIDERS IN THIS COMMUNITY AND WE DESERVE TO HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE THAT SAFE.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

GEORGE A BARRA.

WELL, IT WAS TRUE OF AURA.

WELCOME, HONORABLE MAYOR CITY COUNCIL.

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL.

UM, I DON'T COME TO 'EM.

I DON'T COME TO MAKE ANY, UM, HAVE ANY FIGHTS WITH D TONIGHT.

I COME TONIGHT TO AS A TOKEN OF APPRECIATION.

I WANT TO THANK YOU, HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL FOR THE CONTINUED COLLABORATION, UM, WITH CSA, SAN DIEGO COUNTY FAIR HOUSING.

I ALSO WANT TO THANK, UH, LAURA ELSIE, UH, RIGHT JOELLE HENDERSON AND JEFF.

UM, THIS RECOGNITION FROM THE OUTGOING, UH, SENATOR ANDERSON'S OFFICE COULD NOT BE, CANNOT COME, CANNOT COME TO, TO BE IF IT WASN'T FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR HELP AND THE CITY AND THE CITY.

WELL, I'M SORRY, THIS CITY CODE ENFORCEMENT.

I HAD THE PLEASURE OF MEETING MS. THOMPSON TODAY AND I RISKED, I SHOWED HER THAT, UH, WE'RE GOING TO SISTER WITH HER SITUATION WITH HER ISSUES.

UM, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ON BEHALF OF THE TEAM AT CSA.

MY EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS STELLA DELIS WHEELS IS HERE TONIGHT.

UM, WE'VE TACKLED MANY CHALLENGES THIS PAST YEAR.

UH, WE DO HAVE A FULL TIME, UM, UH, FAIR HOUSING AND ATTORNEY ON STAFF.

WE ARE HUD CERTIFIED AND WE'RE GIVING IT A 100%, 120%.

UM, WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT THIS YEAR AGAIN.

UM, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A VERY LIMITED BUDGET THAT THE CITY OF ALCOHOL GIVES US, WE'RE STILL GOING TO TRY TO SQUEEZE IT OUT AND HOPEFULLY YOU'LL CONSIDER A LITTLE MORE NEXT TIME AROUND WHEN THE FUNDING COMES AROUND.

THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M, WHY I'M HERE.

I'M JUST HERE TO APPRECIATE YOU GUYS FOR THE HARD WORK IN 2018 AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUED HARD WORK ON 2019.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANKS FOR COMING AND THANKS FOR HELPING.

THANK YOU SIR.

NO MORE CARDS HERE.

OKAY.

TODAY WILL BE CONDUCTED OVER HERE TO YOUR RIGHT.

I HAVE A COMMENT FOR THE ONE PUBLIC SPEAKER WHO TALKED ABOUT MOLD ON WALLS IF THAT'S WITHIN THE CITY OF ALCOHOL AND KANSAS CITY.

UM, THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF A BIG DEAL.

IF THERE IS, DO YOU THINK WE COULD HAVE CITY STAFF BE AVAILABLE TO CHECK AND SEE IF THAT IS A LANDLORD VIOLATION TO HAVE MOLD ON WALLS? SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING REASONABLE WE COULD HELP WITH.

IT SOUNDS LIKE CSA IS STEPPING INTO KIND OF BEING AN ADVOCATE AND I BELIEVE THEY'LL COMMUNICATE WITH US AND WE CAN WORK DIRECTLY WITH THEM THROUGH THAT METHOD.

SURE.

OKAY.

THANKS.

ARE I'M SURE YOU'LL REPORT BACK TO US SIR.

SURE.

MY UNDERSTANDING AS OPPOSITES SURPRISE TO ME BECAUSE OF THE PAST CODE ENFORCEMENT HAVE GONE OUT THERE AND THEY WOULD INSPECT THE MOLD EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT CERTIFIED SPECIALISTS AND THEY SAID VISUALLY THAT THEY COULD CALL IT OUT FOR POSSIBLE CONTAMINATION OF HOLES IN THE UNIT, SO I DON'T SEE WHY THIS YEAR DOES IT CHANGE.

MAYBE WITH THAT I DON'T THINK IT HAS CHANGED.

I THINK WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR YOU TO HELP AND YOU'RE GOING TO LET US KNOW AND WE'LL SEND CODE ENFORCEMENT OUT.

THANKS VERY MUCH SIR.

OKAY,

[ Interviews for City Commissions and Committees RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council conducts interviews for two (2) seats on the Gillespie Field Development Council, two (2) seats on the Planning Commission, and one (1) seat on the Veterans' Commission, and appoints applicants to serve the appropriate terms. It is further recommended that the City council accepts applications for the Personnel Commission, the Public Safety Facility Financing Oversight Committee, and the Veterans' Commission on a continuous basis until vacant positions are filled.]

TODAY WE'LL BE CONDUCTING INTERVIEWS FOR SEATS ON THE GILLESPIE FIELD DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND FOR THE VETERANS COMMISSION.

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UNFORTUNATELY, WE DO NOT RECEIVE APPLICANTS FOR THE PERSONNEL COMMISSION NOR THE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY FINANCING OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.

I RECOMMEND THAT WE ACCEPT APPLICATIONS FOR THOSE COMMISSIONS AND SO THE POSITIONS ARE FILLED.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM.

YOU WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK, WHICH MAY BE FOLLOW WITH QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL AFTER APPOINTMENTS ARE MADE.

WE ASKED THAT WE WILL ASK YOU TO TAKE THE OATH OF OFFICE.

UH, ANGELA, I THINK WE HAVE A SPEAK CARD.

WE DO SIR.

HUMBERT CABRERA.

OKAY.

HELLO AND I SEE YOU.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST, UH, MAKE A QUICK, UH, COMMENT ABOUT, UH, DWAYNE BARTOW AND UH, I KNOW THAT A LOT OF, YOU KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING A LOT, UH, WITH THE COMMISSIONS ON THE, UM, AIRPORT AND IT'S NICE TO SEE THAT, UM, THIS COUNCIL AND THE COUNTY AND THE OTHER CITIES THAT WORK TO GET THAT BRADLEY BRIDGE EXPANDED.

AND I THINK THE FUTURE OF THE AIRPORT IS AT OURS FOR THE TAKING.

AND FINALLY, AND IT'S GOOD, HARD WORK THAT EVERYBODY HAS BEEN DONE AND I THINK THAT, UH, DWAYNE BARTOW, WOULD IT BE GREAT TO EXTEND THAT AND HAVE THAT CONTINUED VISION? THAT'S ALL.

THANKS HERBERT.

APPRECIATE THAT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? NO SIR.

ALL RIGHT, I'M GOING TO CONTINUE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE GILLESPIE FIELD DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL.

WE HAVE TWO SEATS TO FILL DUE TO TERM EXPIRATIONS AS INDICATED IN THE AGENDA REPORT.

OKAY.

AND WHO'S OUR FIRST APPLICANT AT ALL? FIRST APPLICANT IS DOING BARTOW.

HI DWAYNE.

COME ON UP.

WELL, GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND MEMBERS.

A LOT OF YOUR FACES LOOK FAMILIAR TO ME.

MY NAME IS DUANE BARTOW AND UH, IT'S GREAT TO BE HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU ALL TONIGHT.

UH, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW ABOUT THIS POSITION UNTIL ABOUT TWO OR THREE MONTHS AGO.

UM, BUT WHAT'S REALLY INTERESTING IS I'VE BEEN AN EAST COUNTY RESIDENT FOR UH, SINCE 1970.

I'VE LIVED IN EL CAHONE FOR WELL OVER 30 YEARS.

UM, AS AN EAST COUNTY RESIDENT I GREW UP UH, RIGHT NEAR GILLESPIE.

I USED TO HANG OUT THERE AS A KID BEFORE THEY HAD ALL THE FENCES UP.

WE USED TO BE ABLE TO RIDE OUR BIKES DOWN THERE AND GO CHECK OUT THE AIRPLANES AND, AND TALK WITH THE PILOTS AND IT, IT WAS REALLY QUITE THE COMMUNITY PLACE TO HANG OUT AND LEARN A LOT ABOUT SCIENCE AND WHAT MAKES AIRPLANES FLY.

AND WE FOUND OUT IT'S NOT SCIENCE, IT MAKES THEM FLY.

IT'S JUST MONEY.

UH, I ENDED UP, UM, WORKING IN AIR FROM THE TIME I WAS 18 UNTIL THE TIME I WAS 22.

AS A FUEL TRUCK DRIVER, I LEARNED ABOUT A LOT ABOUT AIRCRAFT AND, UH, WANTED TO LEARN TO FLY SO I COULD BECOME A MISSIONARY AVIATION PILOT.

HOWEVER, UH, IT WAS JUST BEYOND MY REACH FINANCIALLY TO DO SO.

AND UM, IN THE MID EIGHTIES, MY WIFE, MY LIFE TOOK ME ELSEWHERE WHEN I DECIDED TO MARRY MY WIFE, JILL.

AND, UH, SO I NEEDED TO MAKE A LIVABLE INCOME.

I WENT INTO THE BUSINESS COMMUNICATIONS BUSINESS WITH MY DAD WHERE I WAS A TELEPHONE TECH NATION FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS.

UM, EVENTUALLY, UH, I MADE A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY AS A PHONE TECHNICIAN AND IN 2003, I WENT BACK TO GILLESPIE AT A CALIFORNIA FLIGHT ACADEMY WHERE I RECEIVED MY PILOT'S LICENSE AND I'VE GOT ABOUT 300 HOURS LOGGED AS A PILOT.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY PILOTS CURRENTLY ON THE GILLESPIE FIELD DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, BUT I THOUGHT A PILOT'S POINT OF VIEW MIGHT BRING A UNIQUE POINT OF VIEW TO THAT BOARD.

UM, THERE'S BEEN TALK OVER THE YEARS OF NOISE COMPLAINTS AND PEOPLE NOT WANTING THE AIRPORT THERE, BUT THE AIRPORT HAS BEEN THERE SINCE DECEMBER OF 1942.

UH, IT WAS THERE LONG BEFORE THE RESIDENTS MOVED IN AROUND HERE.

IN FACT, WHEN THE AIRPORT STARTED THERE IT WAS, IT WAS A FARM FIELD.

UH, THERE'S ALSO A NEIGHBOR AIRPORT TO GILLESPIE CALLED MONTGOMERY FIELD, WHICH WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1940 AND THE INTERESTING THING BETWEEN GILLESPIE AND MONTGOMERY IS THERE'S ONLY, AM I OVER MY TIME ALREADY? I WAS JUST, I WAS, SO ANYWAY, I HAVE A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE.

IF YOU GUYS WANT TO ASK ME SOME QUESTIONS, I LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING ON THIS BOARD BECAUSE I THINK I HAVE A LOT TO BRING TO THE TABLE.

THANK YOU.

I'LL START.

GARY.

I KNOW DUANE VERY WELL.

GOOD GUY.

STEVE, WHAT DO YOU THINK OF SOME OF THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES FOR GILLESPIE FIELD? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

UM, IN LIGHT OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE WANTED TO SEE IT CLOSE DUE TO NOISE COMPLAINTS.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY

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HERE BECAUSE THE AIRPORT IS OWNED BY THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO BUT YET THE CITY OF EL CAHONE DOES HAVE A STAKE IN THAT AIRPORT AND I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S BOTH AVIATION BUSINESS THAT CAN FLY INTO THIS AIRPORT AND BRING THEIR DOLLARS TO EAST COUNTY AS WELL AS NON AVIATION RELATED BUSINESS.

THEY CAN SHARE IN REVENUE WITH THE AIRPORT, WITH HOTELS, RESTAURANTS NEARBY IF WE CAN DEVELOP THAT AREA.

IT WOULD ALSO BE NICE TO SEE THE AIRPORT HAVE A NEW TOWER ADDED WITH SOME LED LIGHTING TO SAVE ON THE POWER AND AND REALLY BRING A LONG DISTANCE TRAVELERS IN THIS.

THIS AIRPORT IS A BACKDOOR ENTRANCE FOR EXECUTIVES THAT WANT TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE COUNTY WITH A LOW PROFILE.

AND RIGHT NOW MONTGOMERY IS TAKING 47% OF THE OUTER TOWN TRAFFIC GILLESPIE'S TAKING 30% IF WE REDEVELOP OUR AIRPORT WITH HOTELS, RESTAURANTS, A NEW TOWER, NEW LIGHTING, NEW FACILITIES, I BELIEVE WE CAN CAPTURE A BIGGER PART OF THAT MARKET SHARE AND BRING THOSE DOLLARS THROUGH GILLESPIE THROUGH OUR TOWN HERE INSTEAD OF HAVING SAN DIEGO GET THAT THROUGH MONTGOMERY.

SO IS THERE A SPECIFIC PROJECT THAT YOU'D BE INTERESTED IN CHAMPING THROUGH THIS OPPOSITION? ONE OF MY PET PEEVES A FEW YEARS AGO WAS WHEN THE CAHONE SPEEDWAY WAS CLOSED DOWN.

I REMEMBER ON SATURDAY NIGHTS WE COULD HEAR THE RUMBLE OF THOSE ENGINES ACROSS THE VALLEY AND IT WAS REALLY SOMETHING TO HEAR THOSE GM AND FORD CARS REVVING UP ACROSS THE VALLEY AND WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO BE THERE.

SOMETIMES YOU COULD SMELL THE ALCOHOL COMING ACROSS THE VALLEY AS WELL.

IT WAS JUST A FAMILY ATMOSPHERE.

I'D LIKE TO FIND A WAY TO BRING THE FAMILY ATMOSPHERE BACK TO THAT AIRPORT AS WELL AS A BUSINESS ATMOSPHERE.

MAYBE THAT AIRPORT CAN HELP EL CAHONE ACTUALLY BECOME A DESTINATION WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO VISIT AND BRING THEIR FAMILIES.

UH, WE USED TO HAVE WINGS OVER GILLESPIE, WHICH WAS A GREAT ATTRACTION AND THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH MONEY TO DO THAT AT THE MOMENT.

UH, MAYBE THE OLD TOWER, WHEN THE NEW TOWERS BUILT, MAYBE THE OLD TOWER COULD BECOME A MUSEUM FOR, UH, THE COMMEMORATIVE AIR FORCE AND BRING SOME NEW REVENUE IN TO THEM THROUGH THAT.

SO IT WOULD BE A NICE, NICE TO BRING THE FAMILY ATMOSPHERE BACK TO THE AIRPORT AND BRING MORE HIGHER END BUSINESS TRAVELERS THROUGH AS WELL.

RIGHT NOW IT'S MAINLY FLIGHT SCHOOLS AND SATURDAY FLYERS, YOU KNOW.

THANKS.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN.

APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.

ALL RIGHT.

ROBERT DAVIDSON.

HI SIR.

HOW ARE YA? GOOD EVENING MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBERS SAY STAFF.

UM, I'M ROBERT DAVIDSON, LIVED IN THE EAST COUNTY SINCE 1958.

I GOT MY PALACE LICENSE AT GILLESPIE IN 1972 I'VE BEEN FLYING EVER SINCE.

I KEEP AN AIRCRAFT THERE ON SEVERAL HANGERS.

I HAVE A BUSINESS NEXT TO THE AIRPORT ON MAGNOLIA AVENUE.

I'M A CONTRACTOR FOR TELECOMMUNICATIONS.

UM, I OWN SEVERAL HANGERS INCLUDING THE NEW AIR WORLD FACILITY OVER THERE.

UM, BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE COUNCIL FOR EIGHT YEARS NOW.

UM, WAS COUNCIL CHAIRMAN LAST YEAR AND UM, I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT.

THAT'S SHORT AND SWEET.

LET ME SEE SOME QUESTIONS.

GARY, BOB, STEVE, I'LL ASK THE SAME QUESTION.

WHERE DO YOU THINK THE ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES ARE FOR GILLESPIE FIELD? UM, UP TO EVEN GILLESPIE FIELD IS UM, REALLY GOOD.

UM, THERE IS AS GUMTREE HAS MORE NOISE COMPLAINT PROBLEMS AND IT'S A SHORTER RUNWAY.

UM, GILLESPIE IS TAKING A LARGER AND LARGER SHARE EVERY YEAR.

GILLESPIE HAS THE MOST TAKEOFF AND LANDINGS OF ANY AIRPORT IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.

IT HAS THE MOST AIRCRAFT BASED AT, IT IS ANY AIRPORT IN SAN JUAN COUNTY, WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE PROPERTY TAXES ON ALL THE AIRCRAFT.

UM, FUEL TAX.

UM, IT'S A GREAT STIMULUS FOR THE COUNTY.

UM, A LOT OF BUSINESSES ARE SUPPORTED THROUGH THAT.

LIKE TAYLOR GUITAR HAS A JET, THEY KEEP THEIR, UM, THERE'S MORE AND MORE FLIGHT SCHOOLS AND UM, CORPORATE AIRCRAFT COME TO GILLESPIE EVERY YEAR.

CIRCLE ERA HAS BEEN A REALLY EXPANSION OVER THERE AT THE AIRPORT.

UM, THEY'RE FINISHING OFF THEIR NEW JET CENTER THERE, WHICH IS GONNA ATTRACT A LOT OF BUSINESS.

GILLESPIE'S A LOT DIFFERENT THAN MOST AIRPORTS.

IT'S UM, MORE LIKE A FAMILY.

IT'S EASY.

IT'S EASY TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE TROLLEYS RIGHT THERE, YOU HAVE 52, YOU HAVE 67, EIGHT.

UM, IT'S MUCH EASIER FOR TRANSPORTATION THAN MOST OF THE OTHER AIRPORTS IN SAN DIEGO FOR PRIVATE AND CORPORATE AIRCRAFT.

SO THERE'S A LOT OPPORTUNITY AND AIRPORT IS GOING WITH THE 70 ACRES IS GOING TO MAKE A MAJOR IMPROVEMENT.

UM, THE 70 ACRES CORING THE FAA GRANT AND THEY'RE THE ONES WHO'VE BEEN GIVING THE GRANTS TO THEIR AIRPORT.

UM, THAT SEVEN ACRES

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DEDICATED STRICTLY FOR AVIATION USE CAN BE USED FOR ANYTHING ELSE.

THAT'S WHY THE RACE TRACK WAS EVENTUALLY TAKEN AWAY AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS TAKEN AWAY.

UM, BUT UM, THEY'RE GOING TO START THE STORM WATER SYSTEM THIS YEAR.

THEY GOT ENOUGH MONEY FROM THE FAA TO DO THAT AND HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR WE'LL GET ENOUGH MONEY FROM FAA TO ACTUALLY START GRADING ON THE FIRST HALF OF THOSE 70 ACRES.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME ON THE, I SEE YOU'RE AN INCUMBENT, MR. DAVIS.

AND SO I HAVE A QUESTION THAT COULD BE EITHER REALLY SHORT OR REALLY LONG.

ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH, UM, CAUSE I ATTENDED A LOT OF THE UM, PILOTS ASSOCIATION MEETINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THERE AND UH, W I WAS INVITED NUMEROUS TIMES TO DIFFERENT HANGERS.

WE MAY HAVE RUN INTO EACH OTHER BEFORE.

ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE UH, THE CIRCULAR, UH, RUNWAY? I THINK IT WAS, IT'S BEING USED NOW IN SOME PARTS OF EUROPE, BUT THE, I, THE IDEA BEING IS WITH RESPECT TO NOISE, UH, WITH THE RESIDENTS AS I'M SURE YOU'VE AWARE OVER THERE, YOU KNOW, IN FLETCHER HILLS OR JUST IN GENERAL, EVEN IN SANTERIA.

THE IDEA BEING THAT IF IT'S A CIRCLE THAT, THAT A PLANE COULD TAKE OFF FROM ANY ANGLE ON THAT CIRCLE OF LAND AT ANY ANGLE.

I'M JUST CURIOUS AS TO, HEY, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT, IF YOU'RE NOT, THEN I'VE SEEN IT.

IT'S USUALLY AT MUCH LARGER AIRPORTS LIKE, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR AIRLINES, UM, THERE'S NOT THE LAND THERE TO DO THAT.

UM, INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD BE OUT OF THIS WORLD TO RECONFIGURE THE WHOLE AIRPORT AND THE LAND AND THE MOUNTAINS AND EVERYTHING IN ALCOHOL.

IT REALLY WOULDN'T BE PRACTICAL THERE.

THE MOST OF THE COMPLAINTS ARE FROM FLETCHER HILLS GROUP AND THEY HAVE RAISED THE PATTERN ALTITUDE ON TWO, SEVEN LEFT BY 300 FEET.

THAT SEEMS TO REALLY DRIVEN DOWN A LOT OF THE COMPLAINTS.

SO AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING, REALLY TRY AND REMEMBER, I THINK THERE WAS 37 COMPLAINTS AND I THINK 35 THOSE CAME FROM ONE HOUSEHOLD AND FLETCHER HILLS AND I THINK THERE WAS 39 OR 41 COMPLAINTS IN LAKESIDE AND I THINK ALL BUT ONE CAME FROM ONE HOUSEHOLD.

YEAH, I DID DO THE, THE, I GUESS I WAS GOING TO SAY RIGHT ALONG, BUT I GUESS FLY ALONG I, I WENT UP, YOU KNOW, AND DID THE ROUTES, BOTH ROUTES.

YEAH.

UM, SO, AND I DO APPRECIATE BOTH, BOTH POINTS OF VIEW VERY MUCH.

UH, THEY DON'T FLY OVER MY HOUSE, SO, UM, YEAH, THERE'S AIRPORTS DONE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS WITH THE FLIGHT SCHOOLS AND EVERYTHING AND THEY'RE THE PRIMARY ONES THAT ARE JUST CONTINUOUSLY GOING AROUND.

MOST OF FOR CRAFT COME IN LAND AND TAKE OFF AND DEPART THE PATTERN.

IT'S JUST A FEW.

MOSTLY THE FLIGHT SCHOOLS USE THE TWO SEVEN LEFT THAT CREATE MOST OF THE NOISE BUT THEY HAVE UM, ASK THEM TO GO ALL THE WAY OUT THERE TO QUIA MACCO WITH THEIR CLIMB AND THEN GET TO PAT IT OUT TO AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THEY CAN PULL BACK THE THROTTLE ON THE RPMS OF THE ENGINE.

SO WHEN THEY DO GO OVER FLETCHER HILLS, IT IS 300 FOOT HIGHER AND IT IS QUITE A BIT LESS NOISE BECAUSE THEY HAVE THROTTLED BACK.

AND THAT SEEMS TO HELP A LOT.

AND THE WAY AIRCRAFT ARE EVOLVING AND EVERYTHING, ESPECIALLY WITH LAW, THE NEW ELECTRIC AIRCRAFT THAT ARE REALLY ON THE DRAWING BOARDS AND A FEW BEING TESTED RIGHT NOW, I THINK THE WHOLE THING FOR FLIGHT SCHOOL IS REALLY GONNA MAKE A CHANGE IN THE FUTURE.

CAUSE THEY'VE GOT THREE COMPANIES RIGHT NOW.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT ELECTRIC AIRCRAFT FOR PRIMARY FLIGHT TRAINERS AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THE DIVERSITY NIGHT AND DAY.

I APPRECIATE YOUR EXPERTISE.

THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT.

SAVE SOME.

YOU'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR A LITTLE WHILE NOW.

WHAT ARE YOU MOST PROUD OF THE WORK YOU'VE DONE THERE WITH THE BOARD? YEAH.

UM, IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT BOARD.

THERE'S A LOT OF EXPERIENCE.

WE HAVE TWO MEMBERS HAVE BEEN ON IT FOR FOREVER AND THEY BRING A WEALTH OF INFORMATION.

THEY'RE BOTH, UM, ONE'S A PILOT.

UM, THEY'RE BOTH INVOLVED AT GILLESPIE.

UM, PROBABLY JUST CONTINUING THE ATMOSPHERE AT GLASBY AND THE, AND THE DIRECTION IS MOVING FORWARD.

IT'S BEEN A STEADY COURSE.

UM, GILLESPIE'S A GREAT AIRPORT, OFFERS A LOT OF FEATURES AND FACTORS THAT REALLY BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.

ASKED YOU TO THE SAN COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT THERE.

I FLY WITH ASTRAEA AS A RESERVE DEPUTY.

UM, THEY'RE BASED RIGHT THERE.

IT'S A FABULOUS ASSET.

YOU KNOW, DURING THE SEEDER FIRES, THEY STATIONED ALL THE FIRE CREWS OUT THERE.

WE MADE ROOM FOR THAT.

IT IS PART OF YOUR EAST COUNTY DISASTER PLAN, GILLESPIE FIELD.

SO IT BRINGS A LOT TO THE COMMUNITY.

THE STUDENTS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

AND THEN DAVID JOHNSON.

MR. JOHNSON, WELCOME, WELCOME.

I'LL START OUT WITH THESE TWO GENTLEMEN.

SHARON PRESSED ME A HIGHER, I'M NOT A PILOT, I'VE NEVER BEEN A PILOT.

I WORKED, UH, FOR THE, IN THE NAVY IN AVIATION FOR FOUR YEARS AND I WAS JUST AWARE OF THIS, UH, POSITION JUST TO, NOT THAT LONG AGO BECAUSE I WORKED WITH MIKE RAY ON THE COUNCIL NOW.

I WORKED WITH HIM AT THE COUNTY FOR 25 YEARS AND I WAS WORKED FOR THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE, WAS A DIVISION CHIEF AND

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I, UH, SUPERVISE THE EL CAHONE AND CHULAVISTA OFFICES AT THE SAME TIME.

SO I HAVE BEEN OUT TO GILLESPIE FIELD.

UH, I WAS INVOLVED THERE WHEN I WAS A COMMERCIAL APPRAISER AND, UH, I'M IMPRESSED BY IT AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME PROBLEMS WITH IT.

I'VE BEEN LOOKING INTO IT AND THERE'S NEEDS TO BE MORE FINANCING.

UH, I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHERE THE FAA IS STANDING RIGHT NOW, BUT I KNOW THAT THEY DIDN'T COME UP WITH THE MONEY THAT THEY PROMISED TO COME UP WITH.

AND I KNOW THAT THESE GENTLEMEN KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT.

THAT MEAN IT'S ALL I CAN OFFER.

SAY THAT I'VE GOT A VA, UH, BACKGROUND AND APPRAISAL.

I'VE GOT A BACKGROUND IN VOLUNTARY, I'VE GOT A BACKGROUND IN, UH, INSURANCE CLAIMS, ADJUSTING PUBLIC CONTACT, AND I WOULD BE PROBABLY AS UNBIASED AS COULD BE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY EVENTS FESTERED INTEREST IN ANYTHING.

I'M NOT FOR THE PUBLIC.

I KNOW THEY'VE GOT COMPLAINTS ABOUT IT.

I'M NOT A PILOT, I CAN'T DEFEND THEM JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE A PILOT.

AND I WOULD TRY TO LOOK AT IT ON BIAS AND SAY WHAT IS RIGHT, WHAT DO I, IS THERE ANYTHING I CAN DO WHAT IS CORRECT AND LOOK AT IT FROM THAT VANTAGE POINT.

I'M SURE THAT'S THE WAY MIKE RAY HAS BEEN LOOKING AT IT AND I KNOW THAT IT WOULD TAKE A LITTLE TIME TO GET UP TO SPEED, BUT IT'S ALL I COULD PROMISE TO DO IS THE BEST JOB POSSIBLE.

DO AS MUCH RESEARCH AS POSSIBLE AND BE AS FAIR AS POSSIBLE.

AND UH, THAT'S ALL I COULD DO.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

OH, QUESTIONS? THERE'S PROBABLY SOME QUESTIONS.

GARY.

OH, BEN, THANK FOR YOUR SERVICE.

FIRST OFF, UH, I SEE A GOOD LIST OF, UH, COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT UH, ROTARY AND SO ON.

UM, AND SO ARE YOU, YOU'RE A FARMERS, SO YOU HAVE YOUR OWN AGENCY? UH, NO, NO SIR.

I'M, UH, I'M RETIRED.

I Z I'M, I'M RETIRED FROM THE COUNTY, SO THAT GIVES ME A TIME.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

WHAT KIND OF ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES DO YOU SEE FOR GILLESPIE FIELD? WELL, I THINK IF THEY CAN COME UP WITH THE FINANCING, THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES THERE.

THE MAIN THING IS, IS THAT YOU JUST HAVE TO DEVELOP THOSE SEVEN ACRES OVER THERE.

THAT'S, AND YOU NEED TO BUILD SOME INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS BECAUSE I WAS OVER THERE BEFORE WHEN I WORKED IN THE COUNTY AND MOST OF THE INCOME IS OFF LEASES AND YOU NEED BUILDINGS AND YOU NEED LEASES AND YOU NEED A STABLE INCOME TO COME IN THERE.

AND RIGHT NOW I CAN'T TELL YOU WHERE THE MONEY'S GOING TO COME FROM TO FINISH DEVELOPMENT.

I'M SURE THESE GENTLEMEN KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT THAN I DO, BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S MAINLY A, A MONEY ISSUE, UH, TO GET ONCE IT WOULD BE BUILT OUT.

I THINK IT'S DIFFERENCE OF NIGHT OR DAY.

IT'S GONNA MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE THERE.

SO I THINK YOU NEED, LIKE THEY'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW LOOKING AT A FUNDING SOURCES TO COME IN.

I KNOW THAT, UH, YOU HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN FROM OVERSEAS EVEN AND TAKING PILOT TRAINING THERE.

UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE LOOKING FOR SOME OTHER SOURCES OF INCOME.

I'M SURE THEY ARE RIGHT NOW TO DO IT.

BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S BASICALLY THE PROBLEM.

I SEE RIGHT NOW.

ALL RIGHT.

I THINK YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

OKAY GENTLEMEN, THE DISCUSSION IS NOW WITH COUNCIL.

HEY, THOUGHTS? NOPE.

WELL, I'LL GET APPLICANTS.

OH, BOB.

HI.

I HAVE TWO.

I THINK THE TWO, UH, AS WAS STATED EARLIER THAT HAVE THE MOST EXPERIENCE ARE PROBABLY THE, THE BETTER CANDIDATES.

UH, I LIKED DAVID JOHNSON AS A, AS A PERSON, BUT HE DOESN'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OF, UM, AIRPLANES AND EVERYTHING, BUT THERE'S OTHER COMMISSIONS THAT HE COULD SERVE ON LIKE THE PERSONNEL COMMISSION AND SOMETHING ELSE WE HAD TONIGHT THAT THEY HAVEN'T FILLED THE POSITIONS YET.

AND, UH, MAYBE HE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SERVING ON ONE OF THOSE AND UH, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD SPOT FOR THEM.

WELL, I THINK WE SHOULD START OFF BY HAVING SOMEBODY DOMINATE THE APPLICANT THAT YOU, THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE VOTED ON.

WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE, UH, ROBERT DAVIDSON.

UH, HE HAS THE MOST EXPERIENCE.

UM, I'LL SECOND THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

HEY, DISCUSSION.

NOPE.

MOVE TO A SECOND AND PLEASE VOTE.

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MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

HEY BOB, GO AHEAD AND SIT SECOND.

I WOULD NOMINATE DWAYNE BARTOW.

HE HAS AIRPORT AND, UM, AIR, UH, UM, PLAYING EXPERIENCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND I THINK THAT'S INVALUABLE TO BE ON THIS COMMISSION.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT IN A SECOND.

PLEASE.

VOTE MOTION CARRIES BY A FOUR ONE VOTE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER COLLAGE.

A VOTING NO.

AND I, I THINK DAVID JOHNSON, IF HE COULD APPLY FOR ONE OF THOSE OTHER COMMISSIONS OR OTHER POSITIONS, UH, HE COULD ASK THE CITY CLERK AND SHE COULD FILL HIM IN ON THAT, BUT WE, HE'D BE A GOOD MATCH FOR THAT.

HE'S GOT A GREAT RESUME.

YES, HE DOES.

HE DID VERY WELL, SIR.

OKAY.

UM, STAFF THAT YOU WANT TO DO THE SWEARING IN NOW OR AT THE END? MR MAYOR.

IF WE DID IT NOW, THEY COULD ACTUALLY LEAVE.

WELL, WHERE ELSE WOULD THEY GO? I MEAN THEY CAN WATCH IT ON THE WEB.

THE MOST EXCITING PLACE IN TOWN.

OKAY.

THE NEXT MEETING.

IF MR. DAVIS COULD COME UP, MR BARTOW COULD COME UP.

JOHNSON AND BARTOW.

DAVIDSON.

DAVIDSON.

YEAH.

SORRY.

I NEED TO COME IN HERE.

THANK YOU.

I'LL CHECK.

I CAN HAVE YOU LOST YOUR RIGHT PAMPHLETS AND REPEAT AFTER ME.

I STATE YOUR FULL LANES BY ROBERT DAVIDSON.

I DWAYNE BARTO DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR.

DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT IN THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CONSTITUTION, UNITED STATES AND THE CONSTITUTION, WE JUST DON'T HAVE A CONSTITUTION.

THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC, THAT I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE AND I BEAR TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION OF NINE STATES OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND THE CONSTITUTION, THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

TAKE THIS CONDEMNATION FREE.

I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION, PURPOSE OF A VASE OR PURPOSE OF EVASION AND FAITHFULLY AND I WILL WELL AND SAFELY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES, DISCHARGE THE DUTIES UPON WHICH I'LL TED TURNER.

.

JONATHAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

I WONDER IF THAT'S A PAID POSITION.

GARY, IS THAT A PAID POSITION? NO, I DIDN'T THINK SO.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON AND WE WILL START THE INTERVIEWS FOR THE APPLICANTS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

THE RULES WILL BE THE SAME.

THEN WE'LL START WITH MR MIKE A QUERY.

I IF I SAID THAT WRONG, PLEASE CORRECT.

HOW DO YOU SAY YOUR LAST NAME? MIKE CROWLEY.

CLOSE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS MICAH AND MY GOAL TODAY IN JOINING THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS TO COLLECTIVELY JOIN THE COMMUNITY AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND THE FUTURE OF PLANNING AND GROWTH FOR THE CITY.

I BELIEVE THAT JOINT FORCES OF INFLUENCE, COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND KNOWLEDGEABLE STAFF COMING TOGETHER TO COMPLY WITH ZONING ORDINANCE AND GENERAL PLANNING WILL ASSIST AND THE GROWTH AND FUTURE ESTABLISHMENT FOR THE CITY.

THIS IS WILL BE MY GOAL AND SERVING IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBER AS A NUMBER WITH MY 10 YEARS EXPERIENCE AND COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL AND DEVELOPMENTAL REAL ESTATE.

I BELIEVE THAT I WILL BRING STRONG PRESENTS OF COMMUNICATION AND CONNECTION, COMMUNITY AND COMMUNITY GROWTH FOR ALCOHOL.

I HAVE HELPED ESTABLISHED OVER 10 SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSES IN THE CITY OF ALCOHOL AND I HAVE MORE THAN 150 FAMILIES AS FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS THAT THEY BOUGHT HOUSES IN ALCOHOL.

MY PLAN IS TO PROVIDE MY EXPERIENCE

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AS KNOWLEDGE TO THE CITY WITH THE HOPES OF ACCOMPLISHING FUTURE SUCCESSFUL PROJECT AIM TOWARD THE GROWTH AND CITY DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

THANK YOU SIR.

LET'S SEE IF THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

GARY.

NO QUESTIONS, NO QUESTIONS THEN.

THANK YOU MIKE FOR YOUR TIME.

I, UM, ALTHOUGH IT ISN'T A, YOU KNOW, A DISQUALIFIER IF YOU DON'T OWN YOUR OWN BUSINESS, BUT I, I IN THIS POSITION, I ALWAYS LIKE IT WHEN PEOPLE OWN THEIR OWN BUSINESS AND I KNOW YOU DO.

UM, AND I KNOW THAT IN A, IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, I WANT YOU TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT YOU.

YOU SPEAK TWO LANGUAGES OR THREE OR SOMETHING.

YEAH, 30 LANGUAGES.

UM, I THINK THAT, TALK ABOUT HOW THAT, THAT PUTS YOU IN A BETTER POSITION, A OWNING DIFFERENT BUSINESSES, UH, BEING I GUESS IN THE SAME GENERATION AS I AM, UH, YOU KNOW, Y OR X GENERATION AND THEN ALSO BEING SUCCESSFUL AS, UH, AS YOU HAVE BEEN BOTH IN REAL ESTATE AND THROUGH THE, UH, THE SLEW OF OTHER ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

BUT KINDA TELL US ABOUT, UM, HOW A YOU'RE TRILINGUAL, UH, HOW THAT'S GOING TO HELP.

AND B, BEING A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER OR A LARGE BUSINESS OWNER, I SEE HERE HOW, HOW THAT'S GOING TO HELP YOU AND, AND, AND BASICALLY EITHER, YOU KNOW, EITHER THROUGH GIVING YOU AN EDGE, BUT HOW THAT'S GOING TO HELP YOU IN THIS POSITION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION.

I'M SURE THAT'S WHAT HELPED ME BECAUSE I SPEAK ARABIC GUARDIAN ENGLISH AND THAT'S WHAT HELPED ME TO COMMUNICATE TO THE COMMUNITY WHO LIVE IN ALCOHOL.

UM, IF THEY HAVE ANY CONCERN OR PROJECTS OR PLANS, UH, MAYBE LIKE, YOU KNOW, CAN HELP THEM TO IMPROVE THEIR PROPERTIES THAT THEY OWN OR MAYBE THEY ARE NOT EDUCATED ENOUGH AND REGARD HOW TO, YOU KNOW, UM, BE UP TO THE CODES AND YOU KNOW, HOW TO BE WITH THE CITY COORDINATES AND ZONING.

UM, UH, AND REGARD THE SMALL BUSINESS.

I STARTED SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS AGO AND AN ALCOHOL ON MAIN STREET AND MAIN, AND YOU DON'T BALLANTINE OR ABOGADO.

UM, I USED TO HAVE AN OFFICE, SMALL OFFICE, SAN DIEGO HOMES, REALITY, AND THEN WE GROW THAT TEAM AND NOW WE HAVE LIKE A BIGGER COMPANY OF REAL ESTATE AND YOU KNOW, IT'S GROWING.

IT'S A GOOD BUSINESS.

AND TOUCH ON THAT A LITTLE BIT TOO, BECAUSE I'M IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, BEING, BEING A REALTOR, UH, BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RE AND RESIDENT.

I KNOW YOU DO RESIDENTIAL, YOU DO COMMERCIAL AS WELL TOO.

UH, HOW THAT'S, THAT ALSO HELPS IN THAT POSITION BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE GONNA KNOW THE TOPOGRAPHY AND ALL THIS STUFF.

BUT I'LL LET YOU EXPLAIN IT.

HOW THAT GIVES YOU A, I GUESS, AN EDGE OVER SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T, DOESN'T, YES, AS A CBI CERTIFIED THE BROKER, UH, WE STUDIED ALL THE ZONING CODES AND UH, YOU KNOW, ALL THE COMMERCIAL ZONING TYPES AND WHAT YOU CAN, UH, DO WITH THOSE LOTS OR THOSE PROJECTS I SOLD.

UM, ALL TYPE OF ZONING, UM, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL LOTS AND YOU KNOW, NAME IT, YOU KNOW, OUR 15 AT ONE AND SIX 36 AND UM, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL LOTS AND COMMERCIAL LOTS.

UM, CURRENTLY I'M BUILDING A PROJECT OF SIX UNITS.

UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UH, THE BUILDING APPROVALS.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT ONLY AS YOU KNOW, A BUSINESS ON OUR, UM, AS WELL AS A DEVELOPER.

SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH ALL THE, YOU KNOW, SETBACKS AND YOU KNOW, CODES, HOW TO, YOU KNOW, DEVELOP, UH, THE, THE EMPTY LOT.

SO THANK YOU.

MR. CURRY.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

OH, AND YOU'RE A COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION OF VOLUNTEER WORK.

YOU LISTED WORK WITH ALCOHOL RESIDENT LEADERSHIP ACADEMY MEMBERS ON THE SPECIFIC DISTRICT TRANSPORTATION PLAN.

WHAT'D YOU LEARN? UH, WE LEARNED A LOT.

WE LEARNED HOW THE PROCESS IS GOING AND HOW CAN WE, YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S, IT'S VERY, UH, YOU KNOW, SMALL, UH, PROCESS WHERE WE CAME HERE AND WE ASKED, UM, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF TIMES, UM, HOW TO DO THOSE PLANS AND YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS, UM, APPROVED, YOU KNOW, THE PLAN AND YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE, YEAH, NO, IT'S GOOD.

SO MIKE, FIRST, THANKS FOR APPLYING.

I APPRECIATE YOU.

UM, HOW CAN THE PLANNING COMMISSION HELP MAKE ALCOHOL IN A BETTER PLACE? THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION.

UM, I THINK PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, ARE DOING GREAT JOB.

FIRST THING, THE SECOND, UH, MAYBE IF WE COME UP WITH A LOT OF PLANS TOWARD, UM, HOW TO IMPROVE OUR CITY.

LIKE IF YOU GO TO MAIN STREET, THERE IS A LOT OF ANTI LOTS.

THERE IS A LOT OF UM, OUTDATED BUILDINGS.

MAYBE IF WE SUGGEST SOME PLANS TO HAVE THE HONORS OR MAYBE LIKE, UM, IF WE HAVE

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PLANS TO IMPROVE THOSE PROPERTIES, THAT WILL HELP A LOT.

I SOLD, UM, A PROPERTY ON MAIN AND AVOCADO.

IT'S THE SHOPPING CENTER.

UM, THE THREE, YOU IN A SHOPPING CENTER AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO SAY NAMES, BUT IT WAS DESTROYED, YOU KNOW, NOTHING.

BUT THEN I, ME AND THE BUYER, WE REMODELED THE WHOLE THING AND NOW IT'S VACANT.

IT'S NOT VACANT, IT'S OCCUPIED AND YOU KNOW, THE OWNER PAYING TAXES FOR THE CITY AND THE TENANTS ARE PAYING BUSINESS TAXES AS WELL.

SO MAYBE IF WE COME UP WITH THIS STUFF AND I THINK IF WE EDUCATE THOSE OWNERS, A LOT OF THEM, THEY DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HOW TO IMPROVE.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANKS FOR COMING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

HUMBERT CABRERA.

OKAY.

HI HUMBERT WELCOME.

WELCOME.

LET'S SEE.

GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

I UH, I WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRY THIS AGAIN.

UM, I WANT TO START WITH, UH, I'M AN ALCOHOL NATIVE AND I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS KIND OF MISSING.

I REMEMBER WHEN WAS HERE, FED MART GEMCO WALKER SCOTT AND I CAN REMEMBER WHEN CERTAIN THINGS COME UP AND PLANNING COMMISSION LIKE, AND THINGS WHEN THE ORDINANCES WERE WRITTEN, HOW THEY WERE WRITTEN AND WHY THEY WERE, I WORKED WITH SEVERAL DEVELOPERS.

I'LL PUT MY EXPERIENCE UP AGAINST ANYBODY ANYWHERE.

I WOULD, UH, NOT KEEP ON TRYING TO GO FOR THIS.

IF THERE WAS SOMEBODY THAT CAME UP WITH MORE EXPERIENCE THAN I HAVE, I HAVE 35 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.

I'VE DONE THOUSANDS OF PERMITS.

I DO PERMITS EVERY DAY.

MY COMPANY IS A MULTICULTURAL COMPANY.

WE EMPLOY MANY IMMIGRANTS FROM SEVERAL DIFFERENT PLACES.

I'M BILINGUAL AND WE DO A PLANNING ZONING BUILDING.

WE ACTUALLY, THE REALTORS COME TO US.

THE ENGINEERS COME TO US.

THE TITLE 24 SPECIALIST COMES US.

THE CIVIL ENGINEERS COME TO US WHEN THEY NEED AN ANSWER AND WE COORDINATE WITH THE CITY VERY WELL.

I HAVE SEVERAL AWARDS THAT I'VE BEEN GIVEN AND HAVE SEVERAL LETTERS OF RECOMMENDATION.

HE JUST GOT ANOTHER LEATHER RECOMMENDATION.

I WANT YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE CONTENT.

MAYBE YOU DON'T AGREE WITH THE PERSON'S POLITICS OR NOT THEIR POLITICS, BUT I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THEIR CONTENT.

I HAVE THE MOST IMPORTANT, A LETTER RECOMMENDATION ACTUALLY CAME FROM THE FORMER ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER OF THE CITY OF EL CAHONE.

HE IS NOW THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, THE CITY OF DALLAS, TEXAS.

HE HAS ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED ME FOR THIS POSITION BECAUSE I WORKED WITH HIM CLOSELY ON SEVERAL THINGS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND ALSO WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

UH, ANDREW HAYES WHO WORKS FOR JOEL ANDERSON'S AND, AND, AND, UH, BRIAN JOHNS, HIS OFFICE, UH, FRANK BOND, GIOVANNI, UH, GAIL RAMMER WHO WORKS WITH, UH, RANDY VOLT PALS OFFICE, UH, UH, SOMEBODY FROM LAP, UH, SOMEBODY FROM CASA, SOMEBODY FROM JOEL ANDERSON, AND, UH, YOU GUYS, CONGRESSMAN DUNCAN HUNTER.

THANK YOU.

NO QUESTIONS.

I'VE KNOWN, UH, HUMBERT FOR A LONG TIME.

UH, HE'S A WONDERFUL MAN CITIZEN OF THE YEAR, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

YEAH.

UH, WE NEED PEOPLE LIKE THAT.

SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR APPLYING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

YEAH.

AND STEVE, HOW IS A PLANNING COMMISSIONER DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU DO FOR YOUR DAY JOB AS AN ARCHITECT? SO PLANNING COMMISSIONER IS ACTUALLY DEFINED IN THE CITY OF ALCOHOL.

YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER, I'VE DONE PLANNING COMMISSIONS FROM JAPAN, NORTH KOREA, SEATTLE TO ELGON, OKAY.

AND ALCOHOL.

AND IT'S ACTUALLY DEFINED AS A DECISION MAKER THAT TAKES THE ZONING ORDINANCE, GENERAL PLANS, STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, PUBLIC INPUT INPUT, AND THE INDIVIDUAL COLLECTIVE JUDGMENT OF THEMSELVES TO MAKE A DECISION.

IN THAT CASE IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE YOU ACTUALLY, THE INDIVIDUAL JUDGMENT ACTUALLY COMES WITH I THINK THE MUNICIPAL CODE.

THAT'S A BIG PART OF A HUGE JOURNEY AND I THINK YOU CAN OFFER SOLUTIONS THAT ARE VERY INEXPENSIVE AND CAN MAKE THE, THE AN OPPORTUNITY AND PROVIDE EXTREME OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL THE PARTIES INVOLVED.

AND I THINK THERE'S ALWAYS A, I'M ALWAYS A SOLUTION KIND OF GUY.

THERE MIGHT BE A PROBLEM, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS A SOLUTION.

AND THAT'S WHAT, UH, WE'VE HAD 100% PERFECT RECORD IN GETTING PEOPLE PERMITS.

AND I THINK THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT YOU HAVE TO SIT BACK A LITTLE BIT AS A COMMISSIONER AND YOU HAVE TO GIVE THEM ALL THE PLETHORA OF ALL THE POSSIBILITIES OF SOMETHING SIMILAR TO HOW YOU DO IN THE CITY COUNCIL.

I'LL ASK

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YOU THE SAME QUESTION.

HOW CAN THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAKE OKLAHOMA A BETTER PLACE? PLANNING COMMISSION IS DIFFERENT THAN A PLANNER.

UM, BUT I THINK PLANNING COMMISSION CAN ACTUALLY WORK IN CONJUNCTION WITH LIKE, LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, THERE WAS A, UM, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION QUESTION THAT WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO ON A FENCE.

THE OBVIOUS SOLUTION WAS ACTUALLY THE DEVELOPER.

I NEED A DEVELOPER.

AND UM, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS ACTUALLY DONE FOR THAT, THOSE PARTICULAR TWO PARCELS.

THERE WAS A TWO FRONT YARD SETBACKS AND AN INTERIOR SIDE YARD SETBACK.

AND THERE WAS A COMPLAINT BETWEEN THE TWO PARTIES, THE NEIGHBOR AND THAT PERSON.

AND IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT THEY WERE JUST USING THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS THEIR PUNCHING BAG.

OH, I'M GOING TO GET YOU FOR THIS ORDINANCE.

I'M GOING TO GET YOU FOR THAT ORDINANCE.

I'M GOING TO GET YOU FOR THIS ORDINANCE.

AND I'VE GONE AND IN FRONT OF THE SEVERAL DIFFERENT, UH, CITY COUNCILS AND I'VE, THERE'S 1500 NEW REGULATIONS EVERY TWO AND A HALF YEARS.

I CAN LITERALLY GO TO ANY ONE OF YOU COUNSELED PIMP PEOPLES, UH, MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR'S HOUSE.

AND BEFORE I EVEN WALK THROUGH THE DOOR, I CAN FIND THREE OR FOUR ORDINANCES THAT YOU'RE BREAKING.

UM, AND THAT'S NOT THEIR ROLE.

I HONESTLY, I THINK AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION YOU COULD COME BACK AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, MY EXPERIENCE, I KNOW THAT YOU CAN PUT A THREE FOOT HIGH FENCE AND THEN, AND THEN A THREE FOOT HIGH OF FOLIAGE THERE BECAUSE THIS ISN'T THE ORDINANCE.

AND SO I STILL GET MY SIX FOOT BARRIER.

AND THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS, THE KNOWLEDGE AND THE EXPERIENCE I THINK THAT CAN CREATE A BRIDGE WHERE THESE NEIGHBORS ARE NOT FIGHTING WITH EACH OTHER AND USING THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS THEIR PUNCHING BAG.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, AND IF YOU WANT TO GET REALLY SPECIFIC, I THINK YOU REALLY NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE PARKING STANDARDS, THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS, THIS ZONE R M 6,000 IN RM 2200.

I THINK THE 20 FOOT IS TOO LOW.

AND I THINK THAT YOU ACTUALLY END UP WITH A LOT OF STUBBY LOOKING BUILDINGS, VERY UNARTISTIC.

AND I THINK YOU HAVE TO, INSTEAD OF MAKING IT A REQUIREMENT WHERE YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH A SPECIAL PLANNING, UM, AMENDMENT, UH, UM, IN ORDER TO GET THE LRC EUP IN ORDER TO GET THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS CHANGED, I THINK THAT SHOULD JUST BE PART OF THE STANDARD.

I ALSO THINK THAT YOU ALSO HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW YOU'RE CALCULATING YOUR FAR.

I HAVE TO, UH, ESPECIALLY IN ON MULTI-USE, UH, APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

IF THE PAVING SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN FAR OR NOT, I'LL SAY, I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR PREVIOUS IMPERVIOUS CONTENT.

UH, OTHER CITIES ARE ALLOWING PERVIOUS IMPERVIOUS CONTENT, EVEN IF YOU HAVE CERTAIN TYPES OF ABSORBENT PAVEMENT AND THIS, THESE KINDS OF THINGS.

I THINK YOU ALSO HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR DISABLED PARKING, WHICH IS 17 ONE 85, ONE ONE.

OH, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, UM, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY BE COUNTING OTHER CITIES ALLOW YOU TO COUNT THE ADA PARKING SPACES AS ONE OF THOSE SPACES THAT'S REQUIRED INSTEAD OF JUST AN OFF STRAIGHT STREET PARKING SPACE.

UM, I, I THINK THAT YOU ALSO HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR REQUIRED WALLS.

17 ONE OH 3.18.

OH UH, THAT REQUIRED WALLS BETWEEN A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND A RESIDENTIAL AREA SHOULD BE NOT HAVE TO BE, UH, AN EIGHT OR 10 FOOT HIGH CMU WALL.

THAT'S VERY COST PROHIBITIVE FOR PEOPLE TO, TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO, UM, IMPROVE ALCOHOL WITHOUT BEING FEARED OF HAVING TO GO GET A PERMIT OR HAVING TO GO IN FRONT OF A PLANNING COMMISSION JUST TO IMPROVE THEIR HOUSE OR DO SOMETHING THOROUGH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

OH, AND I LIKE TO HAVE MY NAME AT LEAST CONSIDERED FOR A VOTE.

THAT'S THE ONE THING I ASK.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UH, PAUL SERCO.

HEY PAUL, WELCOME.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS PAUL SERCO.

I HAVE HAD THE PLEASURE OF SERVING ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR ABOUT NINE YEARS NOW, AND THIS IS MY THIRD TIME COMING FOR A REAPPOINTMENT.

IT HAS BEEN MY PLEASURE TO SERVE AND TO SEE THE PLANNING ORDINANCES EVOLVE.

I'VE BEEN BLESSED TO BE PART OF THE SHAPING OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

UH, MY BIGGEST TWO ACCOMPLISHMENTS I CONSIDER TO BE, UH, SUCCESSES ARE CHANGING THE LAWS ON BACKYARD CHICKENS ALLOWING FOR BACKYARD POULTRY, UM, AND HELPING SHAPE THE HOUSING ORDINANCE AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

GIVES US THE NUMBERS OF WHAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR.

INSTEAD OF PUSHING US TOWARDS THE APARTMENTS AND HIGH RISES IN DOWNTOWN, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO COME UP WITH SOME INVENTIVE SOLUTIONS AND CREATE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES AND MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT IN OKLAHOMA AND KEEP ELK HOME A NEIGHBORHOOD RATHER THAN A BIG CITY.

AS A FATHER OF FOUR CHILDREN WHO ARE GROWING UP IN MY BACKYARD AND IN THE FRONT

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YARD, I WANT THEM TO BE COMFORTABLE IN THE CITY OF ELK HOME.

I WANT THEM TO LIVE IN OKON, NOT JUST IN OUR DRIVEWAY.

AND THEN OFF WE GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

BUT TO KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, TO SEE THEIR NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS AND TO BE SAFE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

AND IF YOU ELECT ME AGAIN OR APPOINT ME AGAIN, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO CONTINUE THAT PROCESS.

YES.

A FEW QUESTIONS.

NOPE.

NOPE.

STEVE, WHAT, UH, YOU CAN'T FORCE A DEVELOPER TO BUILD AN EL CAHONE? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU CAN DO TO MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE TO DEVELOPERS TO WANT TO BUILD AN ELCA HOME? WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WE'VE DONE VERY WELL, WE CREATED THE MIXED USE OVERLAY ZONE WHERE WE ALLOW DEVELOPERS TO LOOK AT COMMERCIAL RESIDENTIAL BARRIERS AND WE TAKE THOSE BARRIERS AWAY.

AND REGIONAL COMMERCIAL ISN'T PART OF THAT CONSIDERATION, BUT NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL IS WHERE YOU CAN HAVE ON MAIN STREET ANY ONE OF THESE BUSINESSES CAN LOOK AT THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND GO, YOU KNOW, I LIKE HAVING THIS WALKABLE RETAIL STORE ON THE FIRST FLOOR, BUT I WANTED TO DO SOMETHING MORE WITH MY BUSINESS.

THEY CAN REDEVELOP AND PUT HOUSING ON TOP.

AND WE'VE ALLOWED FOR THAT, UH, CREATING OPPORTUNITIES RATHER THAN TRYING TO FORCE STANDARDS ON BUSINESSES.

AND DEVELOPERS, I THINK IS THE BEST ROUTE TO INCREASE BUSINESS.

SO WHAT CAN THE PLANNING COMMISSION DO TO MAKE THE LIVES OF ALCOHOLICS BETTER? WELL, ONE THING THAT WE HAVE DONE ALREADY IS WE'VE DOWNGRADED A LOT OF OUR PERMITS WHERE THEY USED TO HAVE TO COME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO GET A CUP.

NOW WE HAVE ADMINISTRATIVE PERMITS WHERE THEY CAN COME TO THE COUNTER AND GET THEIR PERMIT ISSUED.

RIGHT THERE.

WE'VE TAKEN OUT A LOT OF THE COSTS INVOLVED IN DEVELOPING AN EL CONE AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO SO IN SUCH A MANNER THAT IF A BUSINESS THAT BRINGS THEIR BUSINESS TO L CONE WANTS TO GET DEVELOPING QUICKLY, THEY CAN AND WE STILL HAVE THE ABILITY AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND AS THE CITY COUNCIL TO REVIEW THOSE DECISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE BY THE ADMINISTRATION AND SAY, THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THIS ONE THAT DOESN'T SIT RIGHT.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT AND REWORK IT.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE YOU COMING.

MY PLEASURE.

I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME ON THE, ON THE COMMISSION.

EDWARD MARTINEZ AND ROCE IS WELCOME HERE.

YOU VERY MUCH.

UH, MY NAME'S ED MARTINEZ.

I'VE LIVED IN, UH, MY PRESENT ADDRESS, WHICH IS ON EAST AND MADISON FOR 15 YEARS.

PRIOR TO THAT I, I GRADUATED FROM GROUND CLAREMONT HIGH, WENT TO CITY COLLEGE, WENT TO MESA COLLEGE.

I RECEIVED AN MPA MASTER'S IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION FROM SAN DIEGO STATE UNIVERSITY IN 1972 AND THEN I WENT ON TO YALE UNIVERSITY TO EARN A MASTERS OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND A 1974.

I JUST, UH, I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY GO OVER THIS CAUSE I HAVE NOT THAT MUCH TIME.

I HAVE, I'VE BEEN THE CEO OF TWO URBAN ACUTE CARE HOSPITALS.

ONE HERE IN SAN DIEGO, ONE IN LAS VEGAS.

AND IN 2005, I WAS APPOINTED BY PRESIDENT BUSH TO SERVE ON A NATIONAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR SENIORS.

UH, THE TITLE IS THERE AND 2009, I WAS ASKED BY THE STATE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO BE ONE OF 22, UH, PEOPLE IN THE STATE TO SERVE ON THE ALZHEIMER'S TYPE, UH, HEALTH PLAN.

AND THAT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

UH, I RETIRED FROM SAN YSIDRO HEALTH CENTER IN 2013 AFTER 15 YEARS, MY WHOLE FOCUS AS AN ADMINISTRATOR, AS A MANAGER IS ON THE PATIENT.

IF I WAS ABLE TO SERVE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, MY ORIENTATION BE TOWARDS AS YOURS IS, UH, ON THE INDIVIDUAL RESIDENT, THE PERSON THAT OWNS A HOME OR RENTS HERE.

UH, THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT HOW COULD THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, DO HIS JOB.

UH, SO THAT THE HOUSE, THE GOVERNING COUNCIL WOULD APPROVE IT.

WELL, THE CITY, THE CITY HAS VALUES, CORE VALUES, ETHICS AND I THINK A COMMISSION SUCH AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION SHOULD REFLECT THE VALUES AND THE CORE OF THE CORE GOVERNMENT.

UH, BECAUSE THE PLANT CONDITION IS A AGENT OF THE CITY COUNCIL AND YOU DON'T WANT THEM DOING THINGS THAT ARE, UH, YOU WANT, YOU WANT YOUR COMMISSIONS TO SERVE THE PEOPLE AS YOU SERVE THEM.

WITH RESPECT, TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

UH, MY ERA IS A VETERAN STAR, CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION OR I'M SORRY, PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, ACCESSIBILITY AND AFFORDABILITY OF

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NOT JUST SERVICES, SERVICES IN GENERAL, HEALTH SERVICES, CITY SERVICES, ALL PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICES.

THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY AND YOU KNOW, THE QUESTION WAS ASKED, MY WIFE ASKED THAT, WHY DO I WANT TO SERVE? I WANT TO GIVE BACK TO MY COMMUNITY AND TO, I WANT TO LEARN AND PARTICIPATE.

AND THE DECISION MAKING OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WHICH IS WORKING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE ALCOHOL AND A GREAT CITY MORE.

EL CAHONE IS A GREAT CITY.

I'VE RAISED MY CHILDREN HERE.

IT'S A WONDERFUL CITY.

THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES, BUT AS EVERY CITY YOU HAVE A LOT OF CHALLENGES AND THERE'S NOT AN EASY, UH, A WAY TO MAKE A DECISION BETWEEN THE X AND Y.

YOU REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT THE GENERAL PLAN THAT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES WITH THE CITY, CITY MANAGEMENT AND SOME DECISIONS WILL HAVE TO BE MADE BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

UH, BUT THE, THIS IS, YOU FOLLOW THE FACTS, YOU MAKE THE DECISION BASED ON YOUR POLICIES AND YOUR GENERAL PLAN AND IT'S NOT AN EASY THING TO DO.

AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

MS SHE HAS SOME QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU MR. MARTINEZ.

IT CERTAINLY IS AN IMPRESSIVE RESUME.

UH, I ALMOST FEEL LIKE IF YOU GOT IT, I'D HAVE TO PAY YOU MORE BECAUSE ALL THESE QUALIFICATIONS THAT YOU HAVE HERE AND JOB TITLES YOU'VE HELD.

UM, BUT I, I HAVE A BIAS TOWARDS, UH, AND I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT BUSINESS ORIENTED, BUT I HAVE A BIAS TOWARDS PEOPLE COMING FROM A BUSINESS BACKGROUND OWNING THEIR OWN BUSINESS AND YOU KNOW, SORT OF LIKE A PROVEN, PROVEN TRACK RECORD WITH THAT WHEN IT COMES TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

SO I SEE HERE A HILL HOST OF PRIOR EXPERIENCES IN THE MEDICAL FIELD AND IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION.

AND WHILE THAT IS, THAT IS, YOU KNOW, HERE IN MY BOOK, YOU KNOW, UH, I, I DON'T, UH, I GUESS I DON'T SEE, OR MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME.

HOW DOES THAT HELP YOU, UM, BECOME THE BEST PLANNING COMMISSION? KEEPING IN MIND MY OWN PERSONAL BIAS OF HAVING SOMEBODY WHO IS BUSINESS FRIENDLY AND BUSINESS ORIENTED.

ALL RIGHT.

I SAID IT'S AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THE LITERATURE, UH, DOCUMENTS AT, UH, THE INTEGRATION OF URBAN PLANNING AND PUBLIC HEALTH PLANNING ARE COMING TOGETHER.

UH, IN THE EARLY 19 HUNDREDS.

THEY WERE SPLIT APART INTO SILOS.

UH, MANY OF THE THINGS THAT YOU PLANNED FOR IN THIS CITY AFFECT THE HEALTH OF THE COMMUNITY.

TRANSPORTATION, HOUSING FOR SURE.

THE, THE ACCESSIBILITY TO HEALTHY FOODS.

OUR PARK, THESE ARE ALL FACTORS WE'LL CALL SOCIAL DETERMINANTS OF HEALTH.

AND THEN, AND THEN IN IT, MANY PROFESSIONALS THAT WORK IN THE HEALTH PROFESSION NOW, THEY CAN'T REALLY MAKE AN INFLUENCE ON THE MUNICIPAL CITIES THAT THEY WORK WITH BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN THAT SILO.

SO THERE IS INTEGRATION GOING ON.

THERE'S BEST PRACTICES.

UH, AND MY, UH, SUBMITTAL, I, UH, I LISTED THREE RESOURCES THAT ARE BEST PRACTICES IN OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE A, DEMONSTRATED THAT A PUBLIC HEALTH AND URBAN PLANNING CITY PLANNING ARE, THEY BENEFIT EACH OTHER.

THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD ANSWER.

AND IF YOU DON'T END UP GETTING IT TODAY, I, YOU SHOULD RUN FOR A GROSSMONT HEALTHCARE DISTRICT, ALTHOUGH FOR YOU.

THANK YOU.

MR. MARTINEZ.

YES.

HOW ARE YOU DOING? GOOD.

GOOD.

UH, PROPERTY RIGHTS.

THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO OWN PROPERTY OR DEVELOPERS COULD BE OF EMPTY PROPERTY OR LAND OWNERS HAVE DEVELOPED PROPERTY AND THEY HAVE PROPERTY RIGHTS, THINGS TO DO WITH WHAT THEY WANT TO DO ON THEIR PROPERTY.

UH, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE COMMUNITY WHICH HAS THE CHARACTER OF A NEIGHBORHOOD OR A STREET.

HOW DO YOU BALANCE THOSE TWO? IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT, UH, PROCESS.

UH, THE CITY COUNCIL RUNS IN THAT IT'S ALL THE TIME.

YOU MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON THE GOOD OF THE PUBLIC.

AND IT'S A HARD DECISION TO MAKE, BUT YOU CAN'T OVERLOOK OR STEP ON SOMEONE'S RIGHTS IF IT'S A WRITER TO WRITE.

BUT TO SOME CITIES HAVE THE RIGHT OF EMINENT DOMAIN AND THEY GO THROUGH A PROCESS.

AND IF THE PROCESS IS AS IT'S WRITTEN OUT TO BE AND IT'S LEGAL, THEN YOU CAN PROCEED.

IF THE COUNCIL, THE GOVERNANCE BODY FEELS THAT, UH, BECAUSE YOU'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO DEVELOP TRUST WITH YOUR COMMUNITY, YOU MIGHT WIN ON THE PIECE OF PROPERTY AND LOSE THE TRUST OF THE COMMUNITY.

SO IT'S NOT LIKE A TRADE OFF.

UH, SO THIS DECISION HAD TO BE BASED ON CASE BY CASE.

AND I'M SURE THE, THE, UH, PLENTY OF DEPARTMENT OR ACCOUNT, THEIR DEVELOPMENT AREA, WHEN THEY WORK WITH HOUSING PROJECTS, UH, DEVELOPMENT ZONING, THEY DEAL WITH SOMETIMES CONFLICTING RIGHTS, BUT THE, OUR RIGHTS AND I KNOW THAT EVERY, EVERY CITY GOVERNMENT, EVERY COMMISSION, UH, EVERY STAFF MEMBER, UH, THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THEIR PERFORMANCE IS BASED ON THE TRUST OF THE PUBLIC.

AND I THINK THE PUBLIC TRUST AND BELIEF IN THAT AND THE, THE ORGANIZATION OR THE JURISDICTION IS THE MOST IMPORTANT

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OBJECTIVE OF YOUR, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOUR, YOUR VISION SHOULD BE.

YOU, YOU'RE THERE TO SERVE THE PUBLIC.

EXCELLENT.

SO, UM, HOW WOULD YOU FEEL THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN HELP MAKE THE LIVES OF PEOPLE IN ALCOHOL BETTER? THE UH, THE PLANT IN THE CITY HAS DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB.

UH, MY WIFE AND I MOVED TO OUR PRESENT HOME CAUSE, UH, I DIDN'T EVEN THINK OF THIS.

MY WIFE WAS LOOKING AT SCHOOLS AND A SCHOOL OF RISE NEXT DOOR, SO SHE WAS THINKING ABOUT NOT DRIVING EVERY DAY TO A HUNDRED MILES.

SO SHE ENROLLED OUR GIRLS IN SHADOW MOUNT CHURCH AS A WONDERFUL SCHOOL.

THEY ARE WELL PREPARED FOR, FOR COLLEGE.

THE AREA OF HOUSING, IT'S ONE OF THE AREAS I KNOW THAT YOU STRUGGLE WITH.

UH, I WAS LOOKING AT THE DATA TODAY.

I THINK THE, THE RATE OF HOME OWNERSHIP AND, AND THE CITY OF OAKLAND IS 38%.

IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S A LOSS OF ALL YOUR CONTINUOUS, UH, NEIGHBOR SANTI, LEMON GROVES, LA MESA, UH, THE HIGHEST.

THIS IS A 69, 71% AND THERE'S A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE MEDIUM INCOME, WHICH IS 46,000 PER YEAR, MEDIUM INCOME PER FAMILY.

THERE'S A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE IMMEDIATE INCOME AND THE RATE OF OWNERSHIP.

THE LOWER THE, THE LAW OF THE MEDIUM INCOME.

AND THAT MAKES SENSE TOO, RIGHT? THE LOWER THE RATE OF HOMEOWNERSHIP, BECAUSE THE BURDEN RIGHT NOW, IF YOU WANT TO PUT 10%, 20% OR 15% DOWN ON A HOME, AND THE AVERAGE AVERAGE HOME, UH, ALCOHOL IS CLOSE TO, I THINK IT'S $406,000.

SO AS LIKE 50, 60, IT'S NOT POSSIBLE.

MANY PEOPLE, UH, 48% OF THE COMMUNITY IN EL CAHONE ARE LIVING WITHIN OUR AD OR 200% OF THE FEDERAL POVERTY LEVEL.

THAT'S, THAT'S CONSIDERED IT.

THE ECONOMIC HARDSHIP.

SO YOU'RE THE ECONOMIC SORT OF DRIVE WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE, THE, THE, THE HOUSING.

BUT THERE ARE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT ARE THE CITIES THAT HAVE SHOWN THAT, UH, RENOVATION OF THE FACILITY, THEIR HOUSE ASSISTANCE AND, AND BUYING DOWN THE FIRST MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE.

AND, UH, WITH THE MORTGAGE, UH, GRAD, I GRADUATED PAYMENT FORM.

THESE ARE ALL THINGS THAT I WAS JUST READING.

UH, THE CITY OF SAN ANTONIO HAS DONE A LOT IN THIS AREA, BUT, BUT NOT, NOT EVERYTHING HAS DONE IN SAN ANTONIO COULD BE DONE HERE IN OKLAHOMA, BUT I WOULD CONSIDER THE PLANNING COMMISSION COULD DO A LOT FOR THE GUY.

AS I SAID, CITY COUNCIL IN THE AREA OF HOUSING, HOUSING.

IT'S ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT THINGS, UH, FOR CITIES TO HELP WITH BECAUSE OF THE COST OF ALL.

WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, SIR.

JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, WERE YOU AT HARBOR VIEW UNTIL THEY CLOSED? I THINK IT WAS LIKE 2001 2002 THEY CLOSED HARBORVIEW MEDICAL CENTER ABOUT THREE OR FOUR YEARS AFTER I DID.

IT WAS ON BY A CORPORATION IN DALLAS.

YEAH.

SO JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I ACTUALLY WORKED THERE SOME IN THE LATE EIGHTIES AND ENDED UP BEING IN ADMINISTRATIVE BAYVIEW HOSPITAL.

SO WE HAVE SIMILAR, SIMILAR PATHS.

OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING, SIR.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

ALL RIGHT.

CHRISTOPHER NOBLE.

HI CHRIS.

HOW ARE YOU DOING? WHAT ARE YOU DOING? I LOVE ELICA AND I WANT TO HELP THE CITY GROW INTO THE FUTURE.

WHILE MAINTAINING ITS CARE.

MY WIFE AND I LOVE THE ACTIVITIES AROUND TOWN, WHETHER IT'S THE CAR SHOWS OUT HERE ON WEDNESDAYS OR THE OKTOBERFEST OR EVEN THE NEW CONCERT VENUE THAT WE'RE VERY EXCITED ABOUT.

I BELIEVE THAT ELICA HONE LIKE THE REST OF YOUS COUNTY IS ABOUT TO EXPLODE AND I WANT TO HELP IT GROW INTO THE FUTURE.

IN MY WORK IN THE LAW AND ACCOUNTING, I HAVE HELPED.

I'VE SPENT MY ENTIRE CAREER HELPING PEOPLE FIND THE BEST WAY TO MOVE FORWARD.

WHEN I WAS WORKING AS AN ATTORNEY, I HELPED PEOPLE RESOLVE BUSINESS DISPUTES THAT THREATENED TO RUIN LIVES.

AS AN ACCOUNTANT, I GET TO HELP PEOPLE GROW THEIR BUSINESSES AND PLAN FOR RETIREMENT.

MY PROFESSIONAL LIFE HAS BEEN DEVOTED TO HELPING PEOPLE IN BUSINESSES FIND THE BEST WAY TO GROW AND THRIVE WHILE STAYING WITHIN THE GUIDELINES OF THE LAW.

I ALSO WORKED AS A PROJECT MANAGER ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF A HOTEL IN MISSION VALLEY.

I WENT THROUGH MOST OF THE PLANNING PROCESS AND GOT TO WORK WITH THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO ON THE ISSUING OF PERMITS AND HANDLING ISSUES SUCH AS TRAFFIC AND GROWTH IN THE AREA.

I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT AND IMPORTANT THAT PROCESS IS.

EL CAHONE IS A GREAT CITY AND I'D BE HONORED TO HELP NAVIGATE THE GROWTH THAT IS INEVITABLE.

RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

SO LET ME SEE IF THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

BOB.

BEN, THANK YOU.

MR. NOBLE.

I, UH, I SEE YOU ON, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR KNOW WHAT I'M GOING TO SAY ABOUT SMALL BUSINESSES.

SO I SEE HERE THAT YOU, UH, HAVE THAT UNDER YOUR BELT, UH, AS WELL AS THE LAW DEGREE AND, AND THE THING THAT, A DIFFERENT ANGLE THAT THAT'S I THINK I KNOW TO BE IMPORTANT, UH, THE ACCOUNTING ASPECT.

BUT, UM, UH, CURIOUS AS TO YOUR, UM, ANSWER AS TO WHY YOU THINK THAT THAT IS WOULD BE IMPORTANT.

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I KNOW IT'S IMPORTANT, BUT I WANT FOR THE BENEFIT OF EVERYBODY HERE, WHY PREPARING TAXES, HAVING THAT BACKGROUND, UM, THAT ANGLE, JUST LIKE HAVING A REALTOR, WHICH I ALSO THINK IS A REALLY GOOD ANGLE ON A PLANNING COMMISSION.

TALK ABOUT HOW THAT ANGLE IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

SURE.

I MEAN, I'VE WORKED WITH HUNDREDS REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS AT THIS POINT AND THAT'S ALL THAT IT COMES DOWN TO IS THE NUMBERS.

AND THEY HAVE TO SIT THERE AND ALWAYS MAKE THE NUMBERS WORK.

AND A BIG PART OF THAT IS PERMITS, PLANNING AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND SO AS PART OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I'D HOPE TO MAKE THAT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE TO HELP GROW, DEVELOP MORE HOUSES, AND ENCOURAGE BUSINESSES TO COME HERE.

AND WHERE'D YOU MOVE FROM? I GREW UP IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA.

I LIVED MOST OF MY ADULT LIFE IN ARIZONA AND NEW MEXICO.

COOL.

AND THEN I'VE BEEN OUT HERE FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ARE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES IN DEVELOPING ALCOHOL FROM A ZONING OR PLANNING POINT OF VIEW? WHAT COULD WE DO BETTER? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HIGHER DENSITY.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE KIND OF MY FIRST THING TO LOOK AT HERE.

THERE'S A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

I LIVE IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME HERE AND EVERYBODY WANTS TO LIVE IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, BUT WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE AND MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO BUY AND BUILD HERE SO THAT THEY CAN INCREASE THE RATES OF HOMEOWNERSHIP.

SO AS A PLANNING COMMISSIONER, HOW CAN YOU MAKE THE LIVES OF PEOPLE IN ALCOHOL BETTER? WE'RE EXPLAINING THE PROCESS, MAKING IT EASY AND BASICALLY HELPING THEM FIND A WAY TO MOVE FORWARD.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE GOAL OF ANYBODY IN GOVERNMENT IS TO HELP PEOPLE DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO AND THRIVE.

SURE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU.

AND DAVID, PHILLIP ORTIZ.

IT FELT WELCOME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, BEFORE I START, WELL, YOU CAN START THE TIMER.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE A NOTE THAT IT'S AWESOME THAT EVERYONE IS VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME HERE.

I THINK EVERYONE IN HERE HAS PUT IN COUNTLESS HOURS TO THE CITY OF EL CAHONE AND, UM, JUST WANT TO MAKE A NOTE AND THANK YOU FOR IMPROVING OUR CITY.

IT'S, UM, VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS ARE REPRESENTED AND UM, IT'S TRULY AN HONOR TO, TO BE IN A ROOM WITH, UM, SELFLESS PEOPLE.

BUT THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

MY NAME IS PHIL ORTIZ.

I'M A RESIDENT OF ALCOHOL, UM, EAST COUNTY RESIDENT MY ENTIRE LIFE.

UM, AND UH, I ATTENDED SDSU, UH, RECEIVED MY BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN CRIMINAL JUSTICE ADMINISTRATION.

A LOT OF THAT WAS STUDYING PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION.

I RECEIVED MY MASTER'S DEGREE IN ORGANIZATIONAL MANAGEMENT, EMPHASIZING IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION.

UH, I AM A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER HERE IN OKLAHOMA.

UM, SINCE 2015 I'VE BEEN A BUSINESS OWNER.

I STARTED WITH MY WIFE RACHEL OVER THERE.

UM, AND UH, WE DEAL WITH TITLE 24.

UM, AND I'M GLAD I DIDN'T HAVE TO GO AFTER MR. HUNGER, HUNGER CABRERA CAUSE I WORK WITH HIM AND HE IS, UH, AN EXCELLENT INDIVIDUAL, FORMER OKLAHOMA, UH, CITIZEN A YEAR, BUT I WORK WITH HIM WITH UM, UH, CONSULTING FOR TITLE 24 ENERGY CODE.

I'M HERE IN CALIFORNIA.

UM, I'M ALSO PART OF THE LCOE AND CLEANUP.

UM, IT'S A, A GROUP THAT MY FRIEND KATHY PELLMAN AND I, WE WERE ONE OF THE FOUNDING MEMBERS.

WE GO AROUND CITY OF OKLAHOMA, UM, CLEANING UP TRASH.

UM, SO WE WALKED THE STREETS AND WE SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS.

UM, I'M ALSO PART OF THE FOREST TO CREEK COMMITTEE.

UM, THE SAN DIEGO RIVER PARK FOUNDATION IS LOOKING TO, UM, DO A PROJECT THROUGH GRANT MONEY IN THE CITY OF EL CAHONE.

UM, AND SO THEY SOLICITED ADVICE FROM THE RESIDENTS OF EL CAHONE.

UM, AND I SAT ON THAT AND GAVE SOME ADVICE.

UH, THERE'S STILL JUST IN THE PLANNING PHASES, BUT THEY HAVE A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS.

UM, COMING FROM THE COMMUNITY.

UM, I, I'M A CURRENT BOARD MEMBER OF THE EAST COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

UM, SO, UH, ALL THAT TO SAY DEEPLY INVOLVED WITH MY COMMUNITY, UH, I WANT TO SEE OKLAHOMA GROW AND GROW SMART, UM, BEEN STUDYING PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION, UH, FOR A GOOD PART OF MY ACADEMIC CAREER.

UM, AND I WANT TO HELP.

I WANT TO HELP ELK A HOME.

UM, I VOLUNTEERED, UH, MY ENTIRE LIFE IN CERTAIN CAPACITIES AND I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER WAY, UH, TO HELP.

I'LL COME GROW.

I REPRESENT, UH, MILLENNIALS.

UM, SO IT'S A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.

UM, THANK YOU.

YOU GOT A LOT TO SAY.

YOUR TIME'S UP.

TIME'S UP.

THAT'S THE REST OF IT.

THAT'S FINE.

YEAH.

BOB, BEN, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MORGAN ACTUALLY.

UM, WHAT IS THE, UM, WHAT DOES THE FPPC SAY ABOUT CERTAIN CONFLICT OF INTERESTS, UM, REGARDING SET APPLICANT BEFORE US? UM, UH, INVOLVEMENT IN, UH, POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS.

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UM, BECAUSE OF NONMONETARY, UM, CONTRIBUTIONS.

LIKE SIMILARLY, YOU AND I HAD DISCUSSED LAST YEAR AND, UH, CIRCUMSTANCES THAT I WAS IN.

MOREOVER, VOTING ON SOMEBODY WHO WOULD, UM, EVENTUALLY HAVE A FINANCIAL BENEFIT BECAUSE IT'S A PAID POSITION.

I, UH, WHEN I LOOKED OVER THE FPPC AND I TALKED TO, I TALKED TO AN ATTORNEY ABOUT IT, THEY SAID THAT IT ISN'T, IT'S GRAY, BUT MAYBE YOU CAN HELP EXPAND ON THAT.

UM, I GUESS I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THE QUESTION INVOLVES IF IT'S BECAUSE, UH, AN APPLICANT FOR THIS POSITION HAS DONATED OR, OR GIVEN MONEY TO A CAMPAIGN, AND WHETHER THAT'S A CONFLICT OR TO A CANDIDATE, IF THAT'S A CONFLICT THAT, AND NOT EVEN MONEY COULD BE NON-MONETARY, IT COULD BE THEIR, THEIR TIME THROUGH VOLUNTEERISM OR, UM, UH, W WHATEVER, WHATEVER IS INVOLVED IN A CAMPAIGN.

WELL, IT'S NOT, UM, IT'S NOT A CONFLICT OF INTEREST TO ADDRESS OR MAKE A DECISION TO A SOURCE ABOUT A SOURCE OF INCOME, UH, ASSUMING AN APPLICANT AS A OF INCOME, AS A POLITICAL CAMPAIGN.

UM, THOSE POLITICAL CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS ARE NOT CONSIDERED SOURCES OF INCOME, UH, UNDER THE FPPC UNDER THE FAIR, UH, POLITICAL REFORM ACT.

THAT ANSWER NO, NO.

SO, UH, MY QUESTION I GUESS SPECIFICALLY WOULD BE IF THIS GENTLEMAN HAD HELPED, UH, WITH A CANDIDATE'S CAMPAIGN, WHETHER IT BE THROUGH NON-MONETARY MEANS THROUGH VOLUNTEERISM, PUTTING UP SIGNS, MAKING PHONE CALLS, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE THAT HAS A NONMONETARY VALUE? IT HAS A VALUE THAT YOU CAN ASSIGN TO IT.

UM, AND SO IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN THE CANDIDATE WHO WAS RECEIVING THE, THE HELP, UH, SHOULD BE OR OUGHT TO BE DISQUALIFIED DUE TO POTENTIAL FINANCIAL GAIN, UH, THAT THE CANDIDATE WOULD THEN RECEIVE, SHOULD THEY BE APPOINTED TO THE POSITION? WELL, AGAIN, THE CONTRIBUTION TO A POLITICAL CAMPAIGN, WHETHER IT'S MONETARY OR NONMONETARY, HAS A VALUE, UH, BUT IT IS NOT DISQUALIFYING TO A PUBLIC OFFICIAL.

IN OTHER WORDS, IF, IF A GENTLEMAN K, IF THEY'RE SOMEBODY WHO GAVE A POLITICAL CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION TO YOU OR PROVIDED SERVICES TO YOU WITHOUT COMPENSATION, SO IT'S IN KIND CONTRIBUTION CAME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL TO SEEK A VARIANCE FOR THEIR PROPERTY.

YOU WEREN'T, YOU WOULD NOT BE DISQUALIFIED FOR THAT BECAUSE IT HAS TO DO WITH POLITICAL, POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS AS OPPOSED TO GIVING YOU MONEY FOR SERVICES RENDERED BY YOU OR GIVING YOU A GIFT OR SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.

POLITICAL CONTRA CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS ARE NOT, DO NOT CREATE A DISQUALIFICATION UNDER THE POLITICAL REFORM ACT.

OKAY.

AND SO FOR THE BENEFIT, I GUESS OF EVERYBODY HERE, THE GENTLEMAN THAT'S UH, THAT'S BEFORE US HAS, UH, VOLUNTEERED IN A COUPLE OF, UH, PEOPLE, WELL SPECIFICALLY, UH, BILL AND GARY'S CAMPAIGN.

SO FOR THAT, I BELIEVE THEY SHOULD, THEY SHOULD NOT VOTE ON THAT.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR FOR EVERYBODY IN CASE THE VOTE GOES WHATEVER, WHICH WAY.

THANK YOU STEVEN.

ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS THAT RAISE A THING.

SURE.

YOU ARE A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER IN EL CAHONES, SO YOU GET INCOME FROM PEOPLE IN IN YOUR BUSINESS, RIGHT? CORRECT.

HOW EXTENSIVE IS THAT? BECAUSE THAT COULD BE A SOURCE OF FREQUENT DISQUALIFICATION OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL.

SO, UH, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR RESPONSE TO HOW X, HOW MUCH YOU WOULD THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE TO DISQUALIFY YOURSELF BASED ON A LOT OF OUR PROJECTS THAT WE WORK ON? I DON'T THINK WE'VE WORKED ON TWO PROJECTS IN OKLAHOMA SINCE 2015.

UM, SO RARE I DON'T SEE THAT THAT'D BEING, UM, A LARGE ISSUE, UM, WITH NEEDING TO, TO RECUSE MYSELF DURING, UH, A VOTE.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE PROCEDURAL QUESTION.

NOW I HAVE A PLANNING.

SURE.

A LOT OF, NOT A LOT OF THE PROPERTY THAT IS LEFT IN OKLAHOMA THAT'S VACANT, MUCH OF IT IS INFIELD PROPERTY IN THE MIDDLE OF A BLOCK, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AND SO SOMETIMES AS A PLANET COMMISSIONER, YOU MIGHT BE FACED WITH A PROJECT WHERE THEY WANT TO DEVELOP MANY UNITS ON ONE BLOCK.

HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

AND I THINK THE WAY I WOULD ADDRESS THAT IS SOLICITED ADVICE OR I SHOULD SAY ADVICE, OPINIONS FROM THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, FROM THE NEIGHBORS.

UM, FROM THE DEVELOPERS.

I MEAN WE, THERE'S EXAMPLES OF THIS GOING ALL OVER SAN DIEGO COUNTY RIGHT NOW, UM, AND BRINGING BOTH PARTIES TO THE NEGOTIATING TABLE AND COMING UP WITH A COMPROMISE TO DETERMINE, UM, IS THIS GOING TO BE OVERBEARING

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FOR THE COMMUNITY? UM, OBVIOUSLY WE NEED TO BUILD MORE HOUSING.

UM, SO I THINK ONCE YOU BRING THE TWO PARTIES TOGETHER, UM, UNDERSTAND BOTH NEEDS.

UM, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A CASE BY CASE BASIS, BUT HOW MUCH IS TOO MUCH? I'D HAVE TO SEE THE PLANS AND THE IMPACT AND THE REPORTS TO MAKE A DETERMINATION FOR THAT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

BEFORE I ASK YOU, GO ON THE DISQUALIFICATION QUESTION.

WHEN I FIRST GOT ON THE COUNCIL, WE HAD CUSTOMERS ALL OVER EAST COUNTY AND THEY USED TO GO THROUGH OUR CUSTOMER LIST EVERY WEEK AND I'D HAVE MAYBE A COUPLE DISQUALIFICATIONS UH, ON THE NUMBER OF ISSUES THAT I WOULD BE ABLE TO VOTE ON.

SO IT'S NOT UNCOMMON, BUT, UH, I PROBABLY, UM, SET THE BAR AS FAR AS THE MOST.

IN FACT, IT WAS STUDIED UP FROM SACRAMENTO AND THE CITY ATTORNEY ASSOCIATION HAD BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT AND UM, WE WORKED THROUGH IT AND IT WORKED VERY WELL.

AND I'M STILL ON THE COUNCIL, NO VIOLATIONS, ALSO VIOLATIONS, NEVER GOT SUED.

KNOW BEFORE WE VOTE THIS THE QUESTION ABOUT YOU BEING B BEING DISQUALIFIED FOR VOTING IT CAUSE YOU WORKED ON MY CAMPAIGN.

WHAT'D YOU DO? I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT NATHAN CORONET BACK THERE WORKED BACK IN MY CAMPAIGN.

PAUL SERCO IF MY CAMPAIGN, JOE BARTOW WORKED AT MY CAVES, WADE BARTOW WORKED ON MY CAMPAIGN.

COPPER CABERA HAS BEEN HELPFUL BY CAMPAIGN.

UH, STEVE GOBLE, BABA CLO, JERRY KENDRICK AND THAT'S JUST THE PEOPLE I SEE HERE TONIGHT.

IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE GET INVOLVED AS A SMALL TOWN AND YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES PEOPLE TAKE SIDES AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THAT, BUT IT SHOULDN'T MEAN WE STOP AND IT DISQUALIFY THING.

SO I, I TAKE EXCEPTION TO THAT.

TO THAT COMMENT YOUR, MY QUESTION TO YOU IS HOW CAN A PLANNING COMMISSIONER MAKE THE CITIZENS OF ALCOHOLICS LIVES BETTER? YEAH.

I THINK, UH, WHAT I ALREADY STATED WITH MR GOEBBELS CAUSE SOMETHING GOEBBELS A ANSWER IS GOING OUT AND ASKING THE COMMUNITY, UM, WHAT DOES THE CITY DOING WELL? WHAT COULD THEY BE DOING DIFFERENTLY? UM, I KNOW ON MY STREET I LIVE IN WASHINGTON.

UM, ONE IDEA IS, UH, COMING UP WITH A PLAN TO MAYBE CREATE TWO DRIVEWAYS FOR THOSE HOMEOWNERS THAT LIVE ON WASHINGTON.

SOME OF THE SPEED LIMITS ARE 45 MILES PER HOUR.

UM, SHE WILL GO 50 MILES AN HOUR.

THAT'S FREEWAY SPEED AND BACKING OUT OF ONE DRIVEWAY INTO PEOPLE COMING 45 MILES AN HOUR IS DANGEROUS.

SO, UM, THAT'S A PRACTICAL THING.

UM, I THINK THAT UH, UM, WHAT THE CITY IS DOING TO RENOVATE EQ PACK IS FANTASTIC.

UM, I THINK, UH, THE CONVERSIONS FROM APARTMENTS TO CONDOS, UM, YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH THAT.

UM, SO L CONES GOING THROUGH A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, A LOT OF CHANGE.

I THINK IT'S MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

UM, AND UH, GOING OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY I THINK IS WHAT I'M ALREADY DOING AND I'D SERVE AS AN ASSET FOR THAT.

SO YEAH, THANKS VERY MUCH FOR ALL.

THANK YOU.

AND I BELIEVE HER LAST APPLICANT IS EGOR.

LET'S COSTCO.

THAT'S FOR THE VETERANS COMMISSION.

OH, WE'RE VETERANS.

WE'RE DONE.

OKAY.

WE'RE DONE.

SO THAT BRINGS IT BACK TO, UM, CITY COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION AND NOMINATION NEARBY.

HERE.

I'LL NOMINATE PHIL ORTIZ.

IS THAT AGAIN? GOOD DISCUSSION.

WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION.

SURE.

UM, MR CRAWLEY IS WELL VERSED IN EL CAHONE AND FROM THE REAL ESTATE SIDE, I THINK HE PROBABLY TRAVELS EL CAHONE SEES EL CAHONE AND KNOWS ELKA HOMES.

SO I THINK HE BRINGS A LOT OF VALUE IN THAT.

CERTAINLY HIS, HIS CULTURAL BACKGROUND IS A PLUS IN A CITY, SO, UM, RICH AND CULTURE.

SO I THINK HE OFFERS A LOT OF POTENTIAL THERE.

MR. CABRERA, NO DOUBT.

HAS THE EXPERIENCE, UH, AND THE RESUME AND THE VOLUNTEERISM.

UH, MR CIRCO HAS SERVED THE CITY WELL.

I THINK HE, UH, AS MR. MARTINEZ SAID, THE PLANNING COMMISSION SERVES AS AN AGENT SOMEWHAT OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND I THINK MR CIRCO HAS SERVED THE CITY WELL TO, UH, CARRY OUT THE COUNCIL'S WISHES FOR DEVELOPMENT OF .

UH, MR NOBLES CERTAINLY HAS A VERY CLOSE LAST NAME TO MY LAST NAME, SO I LIKE HIM EVEN MORE BECAUSE OF THAT REASON.

BUT I THINK, UH, YOU OFFER A LOT OF PASSION FOR ALCOHOL AND YOUR SMALL BUSINESS, UH, EXPERIENCE BRINGS A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

THAT

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IN A SENSE HAS VALUE BECAUSE IT'S NOT SO CLOSE TO THE PLANNING BUILDING AREA.

SO I THINK YOU OFFER THAT MR. MARTINEZ IS DOG GONE OPPRESSIVE.

HE JUST REALLY KNOWS LEADERSHIP.

HE KNOWS ANALYSIS, HE KNOWS DECISION MAKING, HE UNDERSTANDS THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT.

UM, MR. ORTIZ IS A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, UH, IN EL CAHONE CERTAINLY ALSO KNOWS EL CAHONE AND THE BUILDING SIDE OF THINGS.

AND SO, UM, I LIKE EACH OF THESE CANDIDATES.

ULTIMATELY MR MERITS, IT'S YOUR APPOINTMENT WITH THE CONSENT OF THE COUNCIL.

SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

UH, ASH, ASHLEY, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO LET THE BALL SHOULD GO TO THE FLOOR.

YOU GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND? I THINK THERE'S STILL SOME SOCIAL DISCUSSION.

BEN HAS ASKED YOU TO SPEAK.

I GUESS I SHOULD, WE UH SHOULD WE FOLLOW THAT MOTION? CAUSE I'M JUST GOING TO SAY WHO I, WHO I LIKE, I GUESS.

YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN DO, WE CAN VOTE FIRST OR YOU COULD TALK AFTER OR YOU COULD TALK FIRST.

UH, WELL NO, I'M JUST GONNA MAKE IT EASY I THINK.

UM, AND AND SHORT, I THINK MR NOBEL AND MR CROWLEY WOULD BE MY, MY PICKS AND NOT TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM MR. MARTINEZ, BUT THOSE WOULD BE MY PICKS.

BUT, UM, THERE IS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.

I JUST WANTED TO LAY THAT OUT THERE.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND PLEASE.

VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY A FOUR ONE VOTE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER COLLAGE OF VOTING.

NO, NO.

I HAVE TO MAKE A SECOND MOTION.

I UH, MOVE FOR A HUMBER.

COMERA ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS SECOND C? NO SECOND.

STILL ON THE FLOOR.

MOTION FAILS.

IS THERE ANOTHER MOTION AND MORE DISCUSSION? OH, NOMINATE PAUL SERCO IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND DISCUSSION PLEASE.

VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY A FOUR.

ONE VOTE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER COLLAGE.

A VOTING.

NO.

WELL THANK YOU ALL OF YOUR APPLICANTS.

I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME.

THERE'S OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.

PLEASE CONTINUE TO APPLY.

UM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UH, MR. ORTIZ, MR CIRCLE, COME UP AND TAKE THE OATH OF OFFICE, YOU KNOW, HOLD TO THIS POSITION.

PLEASE HAVE YOUR RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AFTER I, PHIL ORTIZ.

I PAUL SERCO.

DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, AND THEN THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

OKAY.

INSTALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC, THAT I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

THAT I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION OR PURPOSE OF EVASION AND I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES UPON WHICH I'M ABOUT TO ENTER.

MMM.

LADIES AND GENTLEMAN, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A SLIGHT DEPARTURE.

MMM.

THE CITY MANAGER, I THINK, I BELIEVE WE HAVE, UH, A POSITION OPENED THAT NOBODY APPLIED FOR.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO US WHAT THAT IS? CERTAINLY A MR MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, WE ACTUALLY HAVE FOUR OPENINGS ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY FINANCING OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.

THIS IS ACTUALLY PART OF PROPOSITION OH, UH, THE BOND MEASURE THAT WAS ADOPTED, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT BOND MEASURE IS TO HAVE AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.

THERE ARE EIGHT MEMBERS ON THAT COMMITTEE.

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FOUR ARE REQUIRED TO BE RESIDENTS.

UM, FOUR CAN BE NON-RESIDENTS AND THERE'S CERTAIN CRITERIA THAT HAVE TO MEET IN ORDER TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.

ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF BEING A NON, IF YOU WERE A NON RESIDENT IS TO BE A CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATOR.

I'M A CIVIL ENGINEER, A LICENSED ARCHITECT, A GENERAL CONTRACTOR OR A CPA.

SO THOSE ARE SOME REQUIREMENTS FOR NON-RESIDENTS.

IF YOU WERE A RESIDENT, YOU COULD, UM, PARTICIPATE, UH, BY BEING A, UH, A REGISTERED, UM, VOTER IN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, A PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, UH, PART OF A, A BONAFIDE TAXPAYERS ASSOCIATION OR BE A BUSINESS OWNER IN THE ELK HOME COMMUNITY.

SO THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES IF THE COUNCIL WISHES TO, UH, APPOINT SOMEBODY FROM TONIGHT TO BE ON THIS COMMITTEE.

SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT IRREGULAR, BUT I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP TO ANYBODY WHO WASN'T CHOSEN TONIGHT.

IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO, UH, FILL ONE OF THOSE POSITIONS, THAT WILL BE, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE.

I THINK YOU SPECIFICALLY, YOU SIR, SINCE YOU HAVE THAT CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATOR BACKGROUND, UM, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT? COME ON UP, SIR.

RIGHT.

LET ME TALK THROUGH IT.

UH, MR. JOHNSON, UH, OUR PREVIOUS REPRESENTATIVE, UH, ON THE BOND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE WAS MR. DAVID C DEBACA, WHO HAD EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN CONSTRUCTION ESTIMATING.

HE WAS ALSO A, A MEMBER OF THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE.

AND WE MAY WANT TO TELL HIM HOW MANY TIMES HERE THEY MEET TH THE MEATS, UM, AT LEAST TWO TIMES A YEAR.

UM, THAT COMMITTEE IS ACTUALLY WRAPPING UP.

THERE'S PROBABLY ONLY ONE OR TWO MORE MEETINGS.

THEY'RE THE ONES THAT, UH, CONSIDER, UH, EXPENSE EXPENDITURES RELATED TO PROPOSITION.

OH, THE PUBLIC SAFETY OVERSIGHT, UH, OR OVER BOND, UH, FOR PUBLIC FACILITIES.

SO THEY APPROVE A BUDGET OR THEY RECOMMEND A BUDGET TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND THEY APPROVE ANY EXPENDITURES.

SO IF YOU'RE A CIVILIAN, SIR, WE COULD VOTE.

ARE YOU TODAY? IF NOT, WE COULD, UH, YOU COULD THINK ABOUT IT.

WE COULD VOTE AT ANOTHER TIME.

WELL, I THINK I COULD DO SOMETHING DOING LIKE THAT.

I'D BE INTERESTED IN IT BE, YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT'S WRAPPING UP NOW AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH DONE FOR THE YEAR.

WELL, WE STILL NEED SOME OF THE SERVERS, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND SOMEBODY WHO WITH SOME QUALIFICATIONS TO DO IT.

YEAH, I GUESS I COULD DO THAT.

I WASN'T REALLY PLANNING ON THIS.

I'D LIKE TO NOMINATE MR. JOHNSON FOR THE POSITION THAT THEY MAY HAVE THE DISCUSSION.

PLEASE VOTE.

OKAY, THANKS MR. JOHNSON.

IF YOU COULD COME UP AND RECEIVE THE OATH OF OFFICE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND THAT MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

OH YEAH.

SEE I GOT AHEAD OF YOU, MR JUSTIN.

YOU GOT A JOB.

YOU DIDN'T EVEN APPLY FOR THAT.

THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.

THAT'S OKAY.

THIS PROBABLY SUITS ME BETTER THAN THE GLASS FIELDS, SO I'M NOT COME ON UP AT ME AS WELL TOO.

THANK YOU.

MR. JOHNSON.

IF I CAN PLEASE HAVE ME RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

YOUR RIGHT HAND.

HI.

RIGHT DAVID JOHNSON.

DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF CALIFORNIA AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC, THAT ALL BEAR TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

THAT I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION OR PURPOSE OF EVASION.

I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES BOND, WHICH I'M ABOUT TO ENTER.

THIS IS JONATHAN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THAT'S A WAY TO RECRUIT AND BILL.

ALL RIGHT.

ALMOST DONE FOLKS.

WE WILL NOW INTERVIEW APPLICANTS FOR THE VETERANS COMMISSION.

THIS COMMISSION HAS TWO VACANCIES WITH DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS, BUT ONLY ONE APPLICATION WAS RECEIVED.

TODAY WE WILL INTERVIEW FOR THE FIRST VACANCY AND AGAIN, I RECOMMEND THAT WE CONTINUE TO ACCEPT APPLICATIONS FOR THE SECOND VACANCY

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UNTIL THAT IS FILLED A KID, MR EGGER, BLESSED COSTCO.

DID I GET THAT RIGHT? LAST NAME? IT'S A MUST GO.

SO PRETTY CLOSE TO MARY.

OKAY.

MR MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY STAFF.

UH, THANKS FOR HAVING ME TODAY.

UH, I AM EDGAR MOSCOSO.

I HAVE BEEN A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF OKLAHOMA FOR GOING ON 17 YEARS.

I AM A VETERAN OF THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS.

I SERVED IN ONE ENLISTMENT FROM 1998 TO 2002, UH, LIVED THROUGH A LOT OF, UH, WELL THE BIGGEST, ONE OF THE BIGGEST LIFE CHANGING MOMENTS IN OUR, UH, IN OUR COUNTRY'S HISTORY WITH NINE 11.

AND I THINK IT HELPED SHAPED WHO I AM TODAY.

UM, ASIDE FROM JUST BEING QUALIFIED FOR BEING A VETERAN, I, UH, I DO FEEL THAT I AM THE GOOD CANDIDATE FOR THIS POSITION, UH, WITH MY LEADERSHIP TRAITS THAT I HAVE WITH THE CITY AND THE COMMUNITY.

I AM SITTING ON A BOARD, UH, FOR YOUTH SPORTS AS A PRESIDENT OF EAST COUNTY SOFTBALL.

SO I AM VERY INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY AND, AND WITH THE KIDS OF, UH, OF OUR CITY AND OUR SURROUNDING CITIES.

I ALSO, WITH THAT APPOINTMENT IN THE, WITH OUR SOFTBALL LEAGUE, I AM SITTING ON THE ALCOHOL, UH, PARKS AND REC RECREATION COUNCIL, WHICH MEETS ONCE A MONTH WITH THEM AS JULIE ALLEN.

UH, SO I HAVE THE UH, EXPERIENCE AND THE TEMPERAMENT TO BE A VOICE AND BE, UH, A LEADER IN THIS ROLE AND TO GET THE VOICES OF OUR VETERANS HEARD AND THEIR KIND OF THEIR NEEDS MET.

CAUSE I KNOW IN TALKING TO A LOT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO'VE JUST RECENTLY EXITED THE MILITARY OR WHO'VE BEEN OUT FOR AWHILE AND ARE MAYBE STRUGGLING, THAT THERE'S A LACK OF, UH, I WANT TO SAY MAYBE TRAINING OR RESOURCES OR OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE TO THESE MEN AND WOMEN WHO'VE FAITHFULLY SERVED OUR COUNTRY.

AND UH, I RESPECT BEING UP HERE AND I'M PROUD TO HAVE SERVED AND GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY YOU HAVE TO HERE.

THANKS VERY MUCH.

LET SEE IF THERE ANY QUESTIONS.

BOB, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND THANK YOU FOR APPLYING FOR THIS POSITION.

VERY WELCOME.

THANK YOU BEN.

HI, ECHO BOB.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND CONTINUED DESIRE TO SERVE.

I THINK YOU'RE, YOU ARE THE RIGHT PERSON FOR THE JOB.

WHO, WHO DO YOU HAVE WITH YOU TODAY? MY LOVELY WIFE JESSICA AND ONE OF MY FOUR DAUGHTERS, LILY, WHO IS A 11.

SHE'S ONE OF MY OLD BALL PLAYERS IN OUR LEAGUE.

TELL HER SHE'LL BE ON TELEVISION TONIGHT OR TOMORROW NIGHT ON CHANNEL 24 AT 7:00 PM.

IF THEY HAVE TO SET THE DVR ENGINEER BACK THERE, CAN SWING THE CAMERA AROUND TO GET HER ON TELEVISION, SHE'LL HAVE TO PULL HER COMPUTER DOWN SO THEY CAN SEE HER THOUGH.

AND JUST TO ADD, I'M DEEP ROOTED IN THE CITY.

UH, OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH, YOU KNOW, TO CALL THIS MY HOME.

UM, I HAVE SMALL KIDS, WE'RE ALL DEEP ROOTED AND I DON'T EVER PLAN ON LEAVING, SO I WANT TO MAKE THIS, YOU KNOW, WITH THIS POSITION, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, WHATEVER IT LEADS TO IS KIND OF WHERE I WANT TO GIVE BACK.

IMPORTANT JOB.

THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR OUR COUNTRY SERVING YET.

UH, I THINK YOUR LEADERSHIP, BOTH, UH, SERVING IN THE MILITARY AND SERVING OUR COMMUNITY LOCALLY ARE PERFECT FOR THIS COMMISSION.

I THINK YOU ARE A GREAT REPRESENTATIVE FOR VETERANS.

I THINK YOU'RE A GREAT VOICE FOR VETERANS AND I'M REALLY PROUD TO CALL YOU A, A CANDIDATE FOR THE VETERANS COMMISSION AND SHORTLY HOPE TO, TO SEE THAT COME TRUE FOR YOU.

SO THANK YOU FOR COMING TO APPLY.

THANK YOU SIR.

APPRECIATE IT.

I THINK MR MACO SKO IS THE PERFECT CANDIDATE.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

THAT'S EMOTIONAL, RIGHT? THAT'LL BE EMOTION.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

PLEASE IT A DISCUSSION.

PLEASE VOTE.

CONGRATULATIONS SIR.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY INSIDE AND TAKE THE OATH OF OFFICE.

I'D APPRECIATE THAT.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

I'M SORRY, I'M STEPPING ALL OVER TODAY.

ANGELA STATE YOUR NAME.

I AT GRANDMA'S GUSTO.

DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

YES.

ALL MY ENEMIES AGAINST ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC THAT I WILL BEAR TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE OR THE UNITED STATES TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREE, THAT I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION OR PURPOSE OF EVASION, FAITHFUL, AND THAT I WILL WELL AND FAITHFULLY DISCHARGE THE DUTIES UPON WHICH I'M ABOUT TO ENTER.

THANK YOU.

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ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS BRINGS US TO THE GERMAN, THE ADJOURN RAVER JOINT MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL, ELKO HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE OAKLAWN REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY HELD THIS 22ND DAY OF JANUARY OF 2019 IS A UNTIL TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 12TH, 2019 AT 3:00 PM THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH.