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[CALL TO ORDER]

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I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

PLEASE STAND FOR A FLAG SALUTE IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE IT.

ROLL CALL PLEASE.

COMMISSIONER MAROSE PRESENT, COMMISSIONER P*****K.

RUDE PRESENT.

COMMISSIONER SERCO PRESENT, COMMISSIONER EDISON PRESENT, COMMISSIONER SATI PRESENT.

[CHAIRPERSON’S WELCOME]

WELCOME TO THE EL CAJON PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.

THIS MEETING IS BEING LIVE STREAMED ON THE CITY OF EL CAJON WEBSITE.

APPEALS OF FINAL DECISIONS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MADE THIS EVENING MUST BE FILED IN WRITING WITH THE CITY CLERK BEFORE 5:00 PM MONDAY, MAY 1ST, 2023, AND MUST INCLUDE THE PAYMENT OF A FILING FEE.

IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON EITHER A NON AGENDA OR AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT, PLEASE FILL OUT A REQUEST TO SPEAK CARD LOCATED BY THE AGENDA AND TURN IT INTO THE SECRETARY WHO WILL CALL YOU UP TO SPEAK.

WHEN THE AGENDA ITEM COMES UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, WE ASK THAT YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME, SPELLING YOUR LAST NAME.

SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.

THE DISPLAY ON THE PODIUM, AS WELL AS OTHER MONITORS IN THE CHAMBER WILL SHOW TIME COUNTING DOWN AT 30 SECONDS.

THE PODIUM CLOCK READOUT WILL TURN RED SIGNIFYING YOU OF 30 SECONDS UNTIL THE END OF YOUR TIME.

APPLICANTS AND INDIVIDUALS REPRESENTING GROUPS OF PEOPLE MAY BE ALLOWED MORE TIME IF APPROPRIATE.

ALL PUBLIC HEARING COMMENTS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO ME AS THE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION AND NOT TO INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF MEMBERS.

PLEASE TURN OFF ALL ELECTRONIC DEVICES IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE SO ALREADY PURSUANT TO CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION NUMBER ONE 14 DASH 79, A COMMISSIONER WHO HAS RECEIVED EVIDENCE RELATED TO A MATTER BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, OTHER THAN AN UNESCORTED VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE SUCH INFORMATION AT THE HEARING.

AT THIS TIME, WE WILL TAKE COMMENTS FROM ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ON ANY ITEMS OF BUSINESS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE COMMISSION.

THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA UNDER STATE LAW.

NO ACTION CAN BE TAKEN ON ITEMS BROUGHT FORWARD UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT EXCEPT REFER IT TO STAFF FOR ADMINISTRATION OR PLACE IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

IF THERE'S ANYONE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD NOW.

ALL RIGHT.

SEEING THAT THERE'S

[CONSENT]

NONE, WE WILL MOVE TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

A SINGLE MOTION WILL COVER ALL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

DOES THE COMMISSION WISH TO PULL ANY ITEMS ON THE CONSENT? NOPE.

NO STAFF.

UH, NO CHANGES FROM STAFF.

OKAY.

I MOVE TO DO MINUTES.

I SECOND IT.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MAROSE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SOT PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

[Public Hearing Item 2]

GREAT.

ALL RIGHT.

AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO FOR THE EVENING IS THE ZONING CODE UPDATE IS A REQUEST FOR A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT.

IT IS C Q EXEMPT AND RECOMMENDATION FOR CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL STAFF.

GREAT.

THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

SO AGAIN, THIS ITEM IS AN UPDATE FOR THE ZONING CODE.

IT'S PRIMARILY RELATED TO HOUSING, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOTEL AND MOTEL, LODGING REGULATIONS AND FIREWORKS.

UH, THERE ARE A FEW OTHER MINOR CHANGES THAT ARE ALSO INCLUDED.

UH, THOSE ARE REALLY INTENDED JUST TO IMPROVE CLARITY AND CONSISTENCY IN THE CODE.

SO STARTING WITH HOUSING, UM, CURRENT REGULATIONS, UM, ALLOW YOU TO BUILD AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WITH A THREE FOOT SETBACK AND A 12 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT.

UM, STATE LAW, UM, HOWEVER, THEN REQUIRES THAT THE CITY ALLOWED THE CONVERSION OF THIS STRUCTURE INTO AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT OR ADU.

SO THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE ADOPTED LAST DECEMBER FOR ADUS, AS WELL AS URBAN LOT SPLITS CURRENTLY SPECIFY A FOUR FOOT SETBACK.

SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO DO WITH THIS CLEANUP IS TO, UH, UPDATE THOSE SETBACKS AND HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS TO ALIGN WITH THE HEIGHT AND SETBACKS FOR ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

SO ESSENTIALLY REDUCING IT FROM FOUR FEET TO THREE FEET.

UM, ADDITIONALLY, THE PROPOSED CHANGES WOULD ALSO ALLOW ADUS WITHIN THE SAME BUILDING ENVELOPE AS THE PRIMARY DWELLING AND ALLOW FOR THE MAXIMUM SIZE RESTRICTION OF 1200 SQUARE FEET.

UM, THIS IS INTENDED TO IMPROVE CONSISTENCY BETWEEN THE REGULATIONS FOR URBAN LOT SPLITS AND A AND ADUS BY APPLYING THE SAME BUILDING ENVELOPE AND SETBACK AND HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS.

UM, ADDITIONALLY FOR THE HOUSING RELATED UPDATES, WE ARE PROPOSING TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT LIMIT IN THE RM 2,500 AND

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RM 6,000 ZONES.

UM, THAT HEIGHT RESTRICTION IS CURRENTLY 20 FEET, AND, UH, WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS A LOT OF FLAT ROOF STRUCTURES, UM, WITHIN THOSE ZONES.

UM, AND WE'RE SEEING REQUESTS, UM, TO HAVE PITCHED ROOFS.

UM, SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO INCREASE THAT HEIGHT LIMIT FROM 20 FEET TO 25 FEET.

IT'S REALLY INTENDED TO RESULT IN CONSTRUCTION EFFICIENCIES, UH, WITH THE HIGHER, UH, WITH THE PITCHED ROOF, AND THEN ALSO TO IMPROVE THE, UH, QUALITY OF THE BUILT ENVIRONMENT IN THOSE AREAS.

UM, FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, STAFF IS PROPOSING A NEW LAND USE CATEGORY FOR NEW AUTOMOBILE DISPLAYS.

UM, THIS CATEGORY IS INTENDED TO ACCOMMODATE NEW AUTOMOBILE DISPLAYS OF THE MALL AND WITHIN THE CG AND CR ZONES WITHIN ENCLOSED, UH, BUILDINGS.

SO, AS AN EXAMPLE, UH, AT UTC MALL IN LOA, TESLA OPERATES AN AUTO DISPLAY AREA WITHIN THE MALL, UM, IN A TENANT SPACE THERE.

UH, THE INTENT OF THIS CHANGE IN THE REGULATION IS TO ALLOW THAT TYPE OF USE AT THE MALL AND THEN ALSO IN THE CG OR CR ZONE.

SO IN COMMERCIAL ZONES, IT'S REALLY, UM, KIND OF AN ADD-ON TO WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, CHANGED FOR, UM, VEHICLE, UH, SALES AND DELIVERY IN THE MANUFACTURING ZONES, UM, BACK LAST DECEMBER.

UM, SO THIS WILL ALLOW THAT MODEL FOR TESLA TO BE ABLE TO DISPLAY AND THEN TO DELIVER FROM THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE, UH, SHOULD THEY CHOOSE TO LOCATE HERE.

UM, ADDITIONALLY, THE COMMERCIAL LAND USE TABLE IS PROPOSED TO BE UPDATED TO ALIGN, UH, VETERINARY HOSPITALS WITH OTHER, UH, MEDICAL USES.

SO CURRENTLY FOR SOME REASON, UM, VETERINARY HOSPITALS ARE EXCLUDED FROM THE OP ZONE, BUT THE OFFICE PROFESSIONAL ZONE DOES ALLOW MEDICAL OFFICES IN THOSE ZONES.

SO THE IDEA IS JUST TO ALIGN THOSE TWO SO THAT WHETHER MEDICAL PROCEDURES ARE HAPPENING TO ANIMALS OR TO HUMANS, IT'S, IT'S ALL OCCURRING WITH THAT SAME ENCLOSED BUILDING.

SO WE WANNA INCREASE THAT FLEXIBILITY, UH, MOVING FORWARD.

UH, NEXT FOR LODGING ESTABLISHMENTS, UH, THE DEEMED APPROVED LODGING ESTABLISHMENT, UH, ORDINANCES PROPOSED TO BE UPDATED BY ADDING, UH, DEFINITIONS FOR EMERGENCY HOUSING PLACEMENT PROGRAM AND SERVICE PROVIDER.

UM, ALSO ADDING STANDARDS FOR TRAINING AND MONTHLY REPORTING, UM, IMPROVING PROCEDURES RELATED TO THE VIOLATION OF PERFORMANCE STANDARDS AND ADDING ADDITIONAL CRIMINAL OR NUISANCE ACTIVITIES.

UH, THESE CHANGES ALSO PROPOSE A METRIC, UH, AND THE METRIC IS UP TO ONE NUISANCE CALL PER ROOM PER YEAR AND ALLOW THE CITY TO RECOVER COSTS FOR CALLS FOR SERVICE THROUGH THE CITY'S NUISANCE ABATEMENT PROCEDURES.

UM, THESE, UH, ORDINANCE CHANGES ARE IN INTENDED TO ENSURE THAT THE CITY IS PROPERLY MONITORING, UH, TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX COLLECTION, AND THEY'RE INTENDED TO HELP STAFF AND LODGING ESTABLISHMENT OPERATORS, UH, REDUCE NUISANCE CALLS.

UM, AND THEN A NEW SECTION IS PROPOSED UNDER MISCELLANEOUS SPECIAL USES AND REGULATIONS TO ALLOW FIREWORKS IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES.

AND SUBJECT TO NOTICING CRITERIA, UH, THE UPDATE WOULD ALLOW THE SHADOW MOUNTAIN UH, CHURCH TO CONDUCT THEIR 4TH OF JULY FIREWORKS WITHOUT A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, AS WELL AS, UH, GRANT HILLS HIGH SCHOOL HAVING UP TO TWO FIREWORKS DISPLAYS PER YEAR.

UM, THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE REVIEW OF THE GRANT HILLS HIGH SCHOOL FIREWORKS, UH, THAT WE HAD A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.

UM, THE CODE, UH, I SHOULD SPECIFY, HAS THOSE NOTICING CRITERIA THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, IN THE HEARING.

AND THEN, UM, IT ALSO RETAINS THE OPTION FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SHOULD AN EVENT BE PROPOSED THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE FRAMEWORK OF THOSE, UM, OF THE APPROVED EVENTS OR THE, THE EVENTS THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR THE ZONING CODE TO ALLOW BY.

RIGHT.

SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED ZONING CODE AMENDMENT, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY.

I THINK THE FEW THINGS THAT I NOTED YOU BROUGHT UP IN YOUR PRESENTATION, SO IT'S CLEAN UP.

WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR, GREAT.

OKAY.

UM, AT THIS TIME I WILL OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? YES, WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD.

RYAN MIKA.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

HOW ARE YOU? MY NAME IS RYAN MEER.

I OWN A COMPANY IN CITY OF EL CAJON.

WE DESIGN BUILT COMPANY AND WE WERE WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH NEW ALVI REGARDED THE NEW ZONING ORDINANCE.

THERE IS, UH, QUITE A BIT OF ORDINANCE THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED IN THE LAST THREE, FOUR MONTHS, AND HOPEFULLY WORKING TO ADDRESS HIM, BUT WHAT HE PROPOSED AS FAR AS THE ADU, WE ALL FOR IT, WE PROPOSE IN REGARD OF THE, UH, RAISING THE ZONING LIMIT FOR THE, UH, RM ZONE TO 25 UH, FEET.

THE HEIGHT LIMITATION, THAT'S A GOOD THING.

THIS HAS BEEN IN THE CITY FOR A WHILE THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING AN ISSUE WITH, SO THAT'S A GOOD MOVE THAT'S GONNA BENEFIT THE CITY FOR SURE.

UH, CHANGING THE ADU WITHIN

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THE BUILDING ENVELOPE SO THAT WE CAN DO THE FRONT HOUSE.

IF IT'S LESS THAN 1200 SQUARE FEET INTO THE ADU, THAT'LL BE A GREAT MOVE AND CALL IN THE PRIMARY ZONE TO BE IN THE BACK, WHICH IS, THAT'S AMAZING.

UH, WE HAVE COUPLE ISSUES REGARD THE ZONING, UH, UH, THAT'S NOT IN THE AGENDA TODAY.

AND WE ARE GONNA WORK ON, UH, RESOLVING THOSE LATER ON AS FAR AS THE HEIGHT LIMITATION AND, UH, SENATE BILL NINE AND ALL THAT COMPLIANCE WITH THE, UH, WITH THE CITY HOPEFULLY.

SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN BRING THAT, UH, COMPLIANCE AND, UH, WE'LL WORK WITH THE STAFF ON THAT.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

QUICK QUESTION, UH, JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY WITH SB NINE, WHAT, WHAT IS IT THAT, UH, YOU GUYS ARE LOOKING AT? OR I'M JUST CURIOUS.

SO, UH, THE SB NINE, UH, BILL SAYS THAT THE, THE, THE SECONDARY DEW DWELLING UNIT IS AN ACTUAL SECONDARY DEW DWELLING UNIT IS NOT AN ACCESSORY DEW DWELLING.

THE ADU IS AN ACCESSORY DEW DWELLING.

THE SECONDARY DUE DWELLING BECOMES TREATED AS A PRIMARY RESIDENT.

AND IT SAYS THAT UNDERLYING ZONE FOR THAT ZONING HEIGHT LIMITATIONS, EVERYTHING COMPLIES.

THE CITY STAFF IS TREATING THAT UNDERLYING ZONE FOR THE SECONDARY DWELLING AS ACCESSORY DUE DWELLING UNIT.

ONCE WE ENRO THE SETBACK, THEY DROP IN THE HEIGHT LIMITATION TO THE ACCESSORY DE WALLING, UH, LIMITS.

SO THE CLOSER YOU GET TO THE PROPERTY LINE, THE LESS HEIGHT YOU CAN GET TO, WHICH IS STATES IN THIS, UH, UH, THE STATE ACTUALLY CLEARLY INDICATE THAT AS WE NINE IS A SECONDARY DE DWELLING AND HAVE TO FOLLOW THE UNDERLYING ZONE.

SO THE HEIGHT LIMITATION AT FOUR FOOT SETBACK HAVE TO BE FOLLOWED WITH THE PRIMARY RESIDENT HEIGHT.

UH, I BROUGHT THAT TO THE STAFF AND ACCORDING TO THE STAFF THAT WAS CHECKED WITH THE, UH, MANAGER'S OFFICE, AND THEY SAID, UH, THAT THE SIT, UH, THE STAFF CAN, CAN ACTUALLY PUT THE HEIGHT LIMITATION THAT'S POSSIBLE.

ALSO, THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE I WANNA ADDRESS RIGHT HERE.

UM, I KNOW THE STAFF IS WORKING PROACTIVELY ON CHANGING THINGS AND PREVENTING THEM FROM HAPPENING.

FOR INSTANCE, CITY OF EL CAJON, SINGLE TIME RESIDENT, WE COULD HAVE HAD ANY, UH, UH, STORAGE.

YOU CAN APPLY FOR A PERMIT, YOU GET A STORAGE AND YOU'RE GOOD TO GO.

NOW THE STORAGE IS WITH CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BECAUSE THE STATE SAYS ANY, TO ANY EXISTING STORAGE, IT COULD BE CHANGED TO AN A D U AFTER IT'S FINALED.

SO THE CITY TRYING TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING, AND SOMEBODY TRIED TO GO AROUND THE LOOPHOLE AND BUILD THAT 2000, 3000 SQUARE FEET OF STORAGE, ONCE IT'S FINAL, THEY'RE GONNA MAKE AN ADU.

NOW WE HAVE TO GET, UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO GET A STORAGE IN OUR BACKYARDS.

SO I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A VALID POINT, BUT THEN IF I WANT TO PUT A STORAGE IN MY BACKYARD, I CANNOT NOW BECAUSE I GOTTA GO THROUGH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO GO THROUGH, THROUGH THAT LOW FALL.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANNA SEE IF WE CAN ADDRESS AS WELL, PLEASE.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE SPEAKER? GREAT, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? WELL, WE DO HAVE ANOTHER CARD.

THE PERSON, MS. SEAN DECATUR.

SHE DID NOT NEED TO SPEAK UNLESS SHE HAD QUESTIONS.

I'M GOOD.

THAT WAS ON THE FIREWORKS.

OKAY, GREAT.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, SEEING THAT THERE'S NO MORE, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING? I'LL MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

UH, SECOND IT.

SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SOLE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER PAUL KARU, PLEASE VOTE CIRCLE.

OH, SERCO.

EXCUSE ME.

SERCO.

THAT'S CUZ I WAS LOOKING AT YOU.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

GREAT.

SO I JUST HAD A QUESTION JUST FROM WHAT, UH, MR. MIKA HAD SAID.

UM, IS THE LOT SPLIT IN THE ADUS? ARE THOSE TWO SEPARATE? THERE'S TWO SEPARATE POLICIES FOR HOW THOSE WORK.

YES.

UM, ESSENTIALLY THE, THE CHALLENGING ASPECT OF IT IS THAT, IS THAT YOU REALLY NEED TO DECIDE WHICH PATH THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GO DOWN AND THEN GO THROUGH THOSE REGULATIONS ONE AT A TIME.

UM, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO WITH THESE UPDATES TONIGHT IS KIND OF ALIGN, UM, THOSE TWO SO THAT IT'S NOT A SEMANTIC ISSUE WHERE THAT SOMEONE IS PROPOSING TO BUILD AN ADU.

WE COME IN AND SAY, WELL, YOU CAN BUILD A 1200 SQUARE FOOT ADU BEHIND YOUR HOUSE, OR YOU COULD BUILD A, UM, YOU KNOW, 2000 SQUARE FOOT PRIMARY DWELLING UNIT.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE BUILDING ENVELOPES ALIGN AND THOSE REGULATIONS ALIGN.

SO I THINK THE SPEAKER WAS, UM, TALKING ABOUT THE PRIMARY DWELLING UNIT HEIGHT RESTRICTION.

UM, WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING IN THIS CODE IS TO ALLOW THOSE PRIMARY DWELLING UNITS TO MAKE THE SAME SETBACK REQUIREMENTS OF THE UNDERLYING ZONE.

SO THE SAME SETBACKS AS THE HOUSE WITHIN THAT PRIMARY DWELLING UNIT ENVELOPE, AND THEN STEPPING DOWN.

SO

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LIKE IF YOU'RE IN THE RS SIX ZONE, YOU'RE STARTING AT 35 FEET AND THEN YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, GOING DOWN TO 20 FEET FOR THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE AND THEN DOWN TO 12 FEET AT THE THREE FOOT SETBACK AS THOSE ACCESSORY GUIDELINES A LIE ALLOW NOW.

OKAY.

SO I THINK THE HARD PART IS, IS THAT WE'RE GETTING, UM, CONTINUOUS INTERPRETATION FROM THE STATE ABOUT HOW TO IMPLEMENT THE GOVERNMENT CODE.

UH, WE'RE ALSO, UH, AS WE, UM, PROCESS ADDITIONAL PROJECTS, WE'RE ENCOUNTERING NEW ISSUES.

AND SO WHAT I PROMISE TO THE SPEAKER IS THAT WE WILL CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE ON THOSE.

IF WE SEE, UM, ADDITIONAL ISSUES THAT ARE COMING UP, WE'LL BRING THOSE FORWARD TO THE COMMISSION'S ATTENTION FOR CONSIDERATION IN CONJUNCTION WITH FUTURE ZONING CODE UPDATES.

WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DESIGN GUIDELINES, UH, THAT HE MENTIONED AS WELL.

SO WE WERE REALLY LOOKING TO COLLABORATE WITH THE COMMUNITY AND, AND GET THE BEST PRODUCT POSSIBLE, UH, WHILE STILL NAVIGATING THOSE INTRICACIES OF THOSE DEFINITIONS AND TERMS, UM, ABOUT THOSE DIFFERENT PROCESSES.

OKAY.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

YES.

QUICK QUESTION REGARDING THAT.

CAUSE I KNOW WITH SB NINE, AFTER YOU DO THE SB NINE, YOU REALLY CAN'T DO THE ADUS AND JUNIOR ADUS AND ALL THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOW AN INDIFFERENT CATEGORY.

WHAT SORT OF REGULATION ARE WE DOING TO KEEP UP WITH THAT, TO MAKE SURE IF THEY DO, DO THE LOTS, BUT YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T GET LOST IN TRANSLATION SOMEWHERE AND LATER THEY GO APPLY FOR SOMETHING ELSE? NOT THAT I DON'T LIKE HOUSING, BUT IT'S JUST THINGS GET VERY CONGESTED.

YEAH.

THE OVERALL ORDINANCE THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE END OF, UM, DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR, UM, BROUGHT US INTO ALIGNMENT WITH, UM, THE URBAN LOT SPLIT SB NINE ORDINANCE REGULATIONS.

UM, THERE WAS AN ISSUE WITH, UM, THE PRIMARY DWELLING UNIT AND THE SETBACKS, UM, THAT WE WORKED WITH, UH, MR. MICAH, THE SPEAKER ON.

SO THAT'S BEEN RESOLVED WITH, UH, WITH THE PROPOSED CODE UPDATES THAT ARE IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT.

UM, AND SO ESSENTIALLY, UM, BUT THEY STILL, YOU CAN BASICALLY HAVE FOUR DWELLING UNITS ON AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY LOT.

SO YOU COULD DO THE URBAN LOT SPLIT AND THEN YOU COULD BUILD TWO PRIMARY DWELLING UNITS ON EACH OF THE RESULTING LOTS.

YOU COULD ALSO BUILD ONE PRIMARY DWELLING UNIT AND ONE ADU.

YOU JUST CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN FOUR TOTAL UNITS.

CORRECT.

UH, YOU HAVE TO MEET THE, UM, LOT COVERAGE AND AND SIZE REQUIREMENTS, BUT THERE'S ALSO THE DEFAULT STANDARDS WHERE YOU HAVE TO ALLOW A CERTAIN SIZE UNIT.

SO THERE'S THE STATE MANDATED 800 SQUARE FOOT ADU, WHICH IS ALLOWED NO MATTER WHAT BASED ON THE SETBACK STANDARDS.

UM, AND THEN FOR, UH, URBAN LOT SPLITS, UH, THERE'S A SIMILAR, UM, REQUIREMENT FOR TWO 800 SQUARE FOOT UNITS TO BE ALLOWED BASED ON THE UNDERLYING ZONE.

AND THEN THERE'S PROVISIONS IN THE CODE UPDATE ABOUT, UM, ALLOWING RELIEF, UH, THROUGH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR, UM, BASED ON THOSE STANDARDS.

SO IF THEY COULDN'T, FOR INSTANCE, UM, BUILD TWO 800 SQUARE FOOT UNITS ON A RESULTING LOT, WE COULD THEN INCREASE THE HEIGHT LIMIT, UM, FROM LET'S SAY 20 FEET FOR THE DETACHED ACCESSORY BUILDING UP TO 35 FEET.

UH, WITHIN THAT REGARD, SETBACK, YOU, YOU MENTIONED 35 FEET.

IS THAT SB NINE? IS THAT THEIR, IS THAT THEIR HEIGHT REQUIREMENT OR 35 FEET IS THE PRIMARY DWELLING UNIT.

SO ALL OF OUR SINGLE FAMILY ZONES ARE 35 FOOT HEIGHT LIMITATIONS.

OKAY.

SO IF I WERE TO SPLIT A LOT AND PUT TWO PRIMARIES ON THERE MM-HMM.

, I COULD GO UP TO 35 FEET PER SE? YES.

MM-HMM.

WITH A FOUR FOOT SETBACK? NO, THE, THE SETBACK WOULD BE REDUCED OUTSIDE OF THAT PRIMARY DWELLING UNIT SETBACK.

SO IN THE RS SIX ZONE, FOR INSTANCE, YOU HAVE THE 15 FOOT REGARD SETBACK.

OKAY.

WE WOULD APPLY THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE SETBACKS WITHIN THAT 15 FOOT REGARD SETBACK.

BUT YOU COULD STILL BUILD THE TWO PRIMARIES WITHIN THAT PRIMARY DWELLING UNIT, BUILDING ENVELOPE.

IT JUST STEPS DOWN AS YOU, UM, BASED ON THE DETACHED OR THE, UH, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT.

OKAY.

GUIDELINES.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL SEE THAT THERE'S NONE.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

OKAY.

I MOVE TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION IN ORDER OF RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF PROPOSED ZONING CODE AMENDMENT NUMBER Z C A 2023 DASH 0 0 0 1.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SOLE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ERCO, PLEASE VOTE.

OKAY.

AND THE UPDATES ARE ADOPTED.

GREAT.

AND THANK YOU, UH, FOR WORKING WITH STAFF ON THAT.

AND, UH, CONTINUING TO DO SO.

I MEAN, CUZ YOU'RE ACTUALLY OUT THERE HAVING TO WORK AND BUILD.

SO YOU'RE THE ONE THAT KNOWS IF THESE THINGS ARE WORKING OR NOT.

THANK YOU.

[Public Hearing Item 3]

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE.

PROJECT NAME FIVE 50 MONTROSE COURT.

IT IS THE MOTEL SIX, AND

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THE REQUEST IS TO CONSIDER REVOCATION OF THE DEEMED APPROVED STATUS FOR A LODGING ESTABLISHMENT.

IT IS C A EXEMPT AND STAFF RECOMMENDS REVOKING DEEMED APPROVED STATUS STAFF.

GREAT.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

UH, SO AGAIN, THIS IS A REQUEST TO CONSIDER REVOCATION OF THE DEAN BERU STATUS, UH, FOR FIVE 50 MONTROSE COURT.

UH, THAT'S A LODGING ESTABLISHMENT, UM, AND IT'S CURRENTLY BRANDED AS A MOTEL SIX.

UM, SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, BOUNDARY FOR THE SITE, UH, SHOWN IN YELLOW.

THE OVERALL MOTEL SIX PROPERTY IS THREE ACRES IN SIZE.

UM, THE MOTEL DOES INCLUDE 174 ROOMS. UM, THE BUILDINGS ARE CENTRALLY LOCATED ON THE SITE, AND THEN THEY ARE SURROUNDED BY PARKING.

UH, THE SITE IS ACCESSED FROM THE NORTHLAND OF MONTROSE COURT, UH, GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF WEST MADISON AVENUE, UH, BETWEEN COMPTON STREET AND NORTH MAGNOLIA AVENUE.

UM, THE PROPERTY'S A LITTLE UNIQUE IN THAT IT HAS, UH, OP OFFICE PROFESSIONAL ZONING.

UH, TYPICALLY LODGING ESTABLISHMENTS AREN'T ALLOWED IN THE OP ZONE, BUT IN THIS CASE THERE'S A SPECIFIC PLAN WHICH REGULATES THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE MOTEL, UM, AND THE FORMER ADJACENT RESTAURANT, UM, AND ALLOWS BOTH OF THOSE USES WITH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.

SO, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 1 1 23 WAS APPROVED, UM, BACK IN 1985.

AND THAT DID AUTHORIZE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE MOTEL AND THE FORMER RESTAURANT TO THE EAST.

UH, RECENTLY THE RESTAURANT, UH, TO THE EAST DID CLOSE.

UM, A CHILDREN'S DAYCARE FACILITY HAS BEEN, UH, PROPOSED AND APPROVED, UH, TO BE LOCATED WITHIN THAT BUILDING.

UM, THEY HAVE STARTED MINOR IMPROVEMENTS, UH, SUCH AS NEW FENCING, UH, AND THEIR BUILDING PERMIT WAS JUST RECENTLY, UM, ISSUED.

SO THEY SHOULD BE STARTING CONSTRUCTION FAIRLY SOON.

THE OTHER ADJACENT, UH, USES INCLUDE APARTMENTS TO THE WEST, OFFICES TO THE SOUTH, AND THEN INTERSTATE EIGHT TO THE NORTH.

SO, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ON THE DEEMED APPROVED LODGING ESTABLISHMENT ORDINANCE.

UM, IT WAS, UM, PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL ON JUNE 25TH, 2019.

UM, IT CONFERS DEEMED APPROVED STATUS ON ALL EXISTING LODGING ESTABLISHMENTS.

SO WHAT THAT REQUIRES IS COMPLIANCE WITH PERFORMANCE STANDARDS.

UM, AND THEN THE ORDINANCE DOES CREATE A MECHANISM BY WHICH THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN MODIFY OR REVOKE THE DEEMED TO PROVE STATUS FOR PROBLEM PROP FOR PROBLEM PROPERTIES.

UH, THE PURPOSE OF THE ORDINANCE REALLY IS TO JUST PROVIDE A COMMON SET OF EXPECTATIONS AND STANDARDS THAT ALL LODGING ESTABLISHMENTS WOULD ABIDE BY.

AND, AND REALLY JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT GUESTS ARE PROVIDED WITH A CLEAN AND SAFE LODGING ESTABLISHMENT AND REALLY TO MINIMIZE NUISANCE OR CRIMINAL ACTIVITY THAT'S COMMONLY ASSOCIATED WITH TEMPORARY LODGING.

SO I WANTED TO GO OVER THE, UH, PERFORMANCE STANDARDS HERE.

UH, THEY'RE SHOWN ON THIS SLIDE.

UH, THEY INCLUDE REGISTRATION AND MANAGEMENT REQUIREMENTS, UM, SECURITY MEASURES, PROPERTY STANDARDS, UM, LIMITED NUISANCE ACTIVITIES, AND THEN, UH, TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TA TAX, UH, COLLECTION.

SO THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION, UH, FOR THE DEEMED APPROVED STATUS.

AND THE REVOCATION, UH, HEARING THAT WAS SCHEDULED, UH, FOR TONIGHT IS REALLY DUE, UH, TO NUISANCE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE OCCURRING AT THE SITE.

UM, SO THERE WAS AN ALLEGED SEXUAL ASSAULT THAT OCCURRED IN MARCH.

UH, FOLLOWING THAT, UM, STAFF ALSO CONDUCTED A REVIEW OF CALLS FOR SERVICE OVER THE PAST YEAR.

UM, YOU CAN SEE ON THIS SLIDE THERE WERE TOTAL OF 364 CALLS FOR SERVICE OVER THE LAST YEAR.

UM, WE PARSED THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL CALLS, UH, ONE BY ONE AND TRIED TO DETERMINE, UH, WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE RELATED TO NUISANCE ACTIVITIES.

UM, WE, YOU CAN SEE BELOW, UM, THE A LIST OF, UH, DISTURBANCE OF THE PEACE MEDICAL REASONS AND THE OTHER ISSUES FOR SOME OF THOSE CALLS FOR SERVICE.

UM, THE ONES THAT ARE LISTED, THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 177 OF THOSE CALLS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN POTENTIALLY ATTRIBUTED TOWARDS NUISANCE ACTIVITIES.

UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON THAT AND THEY'VE ACTUALLY JOINED US TONIGHT.

UM, SO AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO INVITE, UH, OUR REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IF THEY'D LIKE TO COME DOWN, UH, TO THE DIAS.

AND THEN, UH, THEY CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT SOME OF THE NUISANCE ACTIVITIES AND THEN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS.

GREAT.

GOOD EVENING COMMISSIONERS.

I AM MIKE MOLTEN.

I'M THE POLICE CHIEF FOR THE CITY OF EL CAJON.

I'LL GIVE YOU KIND OF A RECAP ON, UH, THE MAJOR INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED LAST MONTH.

I'M SURE MANY YOU'RE AWARE OF IT, IT, IT GARNERED A LOT OF MEDIA ATTENTION.

UH, BUT I'LL GO AHEAD AND RECAP THAT FOR YOU AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

AND WITH ME TONIGHT, I HAVE, UH, CAPTAIN ROB RANS WEILER, WHO, UH, RUNS THE PATROL DIVISION FOR US, AND HE CAN TALK ABOUT GENERAL CRIME ISSUES IN THE AREA, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THOSE.

SO THE, THE SIGNIFICANT INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED LAST MONTH HAPPENED ON MARCH 17TH.

UH, WE BEGAN INVESTIGATING A POSSIBLE SI CHILD SEXUAL ASSAULT CASE, UH, AT THE MOTEL SIX.

DURING THE INVESTIGATION, WE LEARNED THAT TWO REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS WERE STAYING AT THE HOTEL.

ONE

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OF THEM WAS STAYING THERE UNDER A COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO, UH, EMERGENCY HOUSING PROGRAM.

WE IDENTIFIED THOSE TWO SEX OFFENDERS.

THE TWO HAD MET AT A SAN DIEGO AREA MOTEL UNDER A, A COUNTY EMERGENCY, UH, HOUSING PROGRAM, UH, ADMINISTERED BY, UH, AN ORGANIZATION CALLED PATH.

UH, AGAIN, IT WAS FUNDED BY THE, THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO.

BOTH HAD SEXUAL CONTACT WITH A YOUNG FEMALE, THEY BELIEVED TO BE UNDER THE AGE OF 18 YEARS OLD.

IN ONE OF THE ROOMS AT MOTEL SIX.

UH, THAT SEXUAL ASSAULT AND RAPE WAS VIDEOTAPED, UH, BY THOSE GENTLEMEN, THE GIRL WE LATER IDENTIFIED AS A 16 YEAR OLD, UH, JUVENILE FEMALE.

BASED ON EVIDENCE WE'VE RECOVERED, WE STILL BELIEVE THERE ARE ADDITIONAL VICTIMS OUT THERE.

WE ARE STILL LOOKING FOR ADDITIONAL VICTIMS AND ASKING FOR THE PUBLIC'S HELP AND FINDING ADDITIONAL VICTIMS. UH, BOTH OF THOSE GENTLEMEN THAT I MENTIONED ARE CURRENTLY IN CUSTODY FACING, UH, VARIOUS FELONY CHARGES RELATED TO THAT CASE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF A RECAP OF THAT CASE.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.

UM, YES, I HAVE A QUESTION.

UH, THE OCCUPANCY OF THAT MOTEL SIX, DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY, UH, UH, VOUCHER, UH, PROGRAMS ARE IN USE RIGHT NOW AT THE MOTEL? SIX OUT OF THE 174 ROOMS? YOU KNOW, IT'S DIFFICULT TO SAY.

WE KNOW THAT THROUGH THE COUNTY'S R A PROGRAM, WHICH IS, UH, PRIMARILY ADMINISTERED BY AN ORGANIZATION CALLED EQUIS, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S ABOUT 120 OR 130 IN THE CITY OF EL CAJON.

THE REASON I SAY I CAN'T ANSWER THAT IS CUZ I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OTHER PROGRAMS THE COUNTY'S OPERATING IN THE CITY OF EL CAJON.

WE DIDN'T KNOW THIS PATH PROGRAM EXISTED UNTIL THIS INCIDENT.

UH, THERE WAS AN INCIDENT LAST WEEKEND AT A HOTEL INVOLVING ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW EXISTED UNTIL LAST WEEKEND.

SO WE DON'T KNOW OF ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE OPERATING IN EL CAJON, WE KNOW THE ONE, THE ONE MAIN PROGRAM THAT WE KNOW ABOUT THAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW.

WE KNOW THERE'S ABOUT A HUNDRED.

I THINK IT'S, I THINK THE NUMBERS AROUND 120 OR 130 IN THAT PARTICULAR MOTEL? NO, THROUGHOUT THE HOTELS.

OH, THROUGHOUT THE HOTEL IN EL CAJON CAJON.

OKAY.

AND, UH, OUT OF THOSE, UH, NUISANCE CALLS, UH, WHICH ARE DELINEATED THERE, UM, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT, UH, DRUG ACTIVITY IS GOING ON EITHER USE OF DRUGS OR SALE OF DRUGS.

IS THAT CORRECT? DRUG DRUG ACTIVITY HAS, HAS BEEN OCCURRING IN, IN, IN THAT HOTEL IN MANY OF THE HOTELS IN OKAH, YES.

OKAY.

AND WOULD YOU SAY IN THAT LOCATION MORE SO THAN OTHER LOCATIONS, OR WOULD YOU SAY IT'S ABOUT EQUAL? I, I WOULD, I WOULD HAVE TO DO A COMPARISON WITH THE OTHER LOCATIONS TO, TO ACCURATELY GIVE YOU AN ANSWER TO THAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YES.

COMMISSION HARRISON, UH, THIS IS THE MAIN ACTUALLY DIRECTED TO STAFF.

WAS THIS THE LAST CALENDAR YEAR OR IS THIS 12 MONTHS FROM TODAY? OR WHAT, WHAT WAS THE TIMELINE OF THAT? DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE THAT IT, THE CALC, THE CALLS FOR SERVICE WERE, UM, CALCULATED ON THE 12 MONTHS PRIOR TO THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION, UH, DATE.

SO WE ISSUED THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION AND THEN WE CALCULATED THE PREVIOUS 12 MONTHS, UH, FROM THAT DATE.

VERY GREAT.

YES.

WITH THESE VOUCHERS THAT THEY GIVE, DO YOU KNOW, OR DO THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH ANY PROGRAM OR ANY SORT OF BACKGROUND CHECK TO GET THESE VOUCHERS OR JUST ANYONE COULD GET THESE VOUCHERS? SO IF I MAY INTERJECT FOR FOR A MOMENT, CHIEF.

THANK YOU.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR, UM, FOR TONIGHT'S, UM, ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE, OR SORRY FOR TONIGHT'S, UH, DEEMED APPROVED, UH, LODGING ESTABLISHMENT, UM, REVOCATION HEARING, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT THE OPERATIONS OF THE, UM, THE OPERATOR OF THE MOTEL.

AND SO THE ISSUE, UH, SO THE TERM VOUCHER IS COMMONLY USED IN CONJUNCTION WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN EMERGENCY HOUSING, UH, PROGRAM.

UM, WE, THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO REGULATE, UM, EMERGENCY HOUSING PROGRAMS. UM, ADDITIONALLY IT'S A, A FAIR HOUSING ISSUE IN THAT ANYONE HAS ACCESS TO THOSE HOUSING, UH, OPPORTUNITIES.

SO, UH, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO FOCUS ON IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS IS THE NUISANCE RELATED ACTIVITIES THAT ARE OCCURRING AT THE SITE WITHOUT NECESSARILY ATTRIBUTING THOSE TO ANY ONE TYPE OF, OF PROGRAM OR ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S GOING ON.

IT'S REALLY ABOUT, UM, THE LODGING ESTABLISHMENT OPERATOR BEING ABLE TO CONTROL THOSE NUISANCE ACTIVITIES AND PROPERLY MANAGING THEIR PROPERTY.

WELL, ACCORDING TO WHAT WE JUST APPROVED, IT'S ONE CALL PER ROOM.

SO THEY'RE ALREADY WAY BEYOND THE VI VIOLATING WHAT IS DEEMED FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT.

IF THEY ONLY HAVE 174 ROOMS, AND YOU SAID HOW MANY CALLS ARE HERE, YOU KNOW, THEN THEY'RE ALREADY BEYOND WHAT IS APPROVED BY WHAT WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS.

IS THAT CORRECT THEN? RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO THE, WELL, NO, THE, THE METRIC OF ONE CALL PER SERVICE PER ROOM IS NOT CURRENTLY IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE.

OKAY.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO ADD THAT AS A METRIC.

GOTCHA.

AND SO, UM, ONCE THAT, IF THAT METRIC IS APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, THEN THAT COULD BE ENFORCED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THOSE NUISANCE ACTIVITIES AT

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FUTURE REVOCATION HEARINGS.

I THINK THE OTHER SLIGHTLY NUANCED ASPECT OF THIS IS THAT ALTHOUGH THERE WERE 364 CALLS FOR SERVICE, YOU HAVE A A 174 UNIT MOTEL.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE NUISANCE CALLS THAT ARE DELINEATED BELOW THAT 364, IT REALLY AMOUNTS TO ABOUT 177, WHICH IS PRETTY CLOSE TO THE ONE CALL PER ROOM BEDROOM.

BEDROOM.

OKAY.

THANKS.

UM, YES, COMMISSIONERS, SO, AND IT, I'LL DIRECT IT TO YOU, BUT I'M SURE YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE PROPERTY OWNER, I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'RE THERE TODAY.

HAVE THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE MANAGEMENT WORKED WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? THIS AMOUNT OF CALLS IS, IS, IT'S ALARMING.

IT'S, I IT'S EYE RAISING.

UM, HAVE THEY WORKED WITH THE DEPARTMENT AT ALL IN REGARDS TO WHAT WE'RE SEEING? I I CAN TELL YOU THAT HISTORICALLY WE'VE WORKED WITH EVERY HOTEL IN TO REDUCE CALLS FOR SERVICE ON THEIR PROPERTIES, INCLUDING MOTEL SIX OVER THE COURSE OF, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NEARLY 30 YEARS THAT I'VE WORKED FOR THE CITY.

AS FAR AS RECENT EFFORTS, I, I, I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH MY STAFF TO TELL YOU ABOUT THAT, BUT WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH ANYONE, UH, TO HELP THEM MAKE AREAS SAFER.

AND, AND IF I MAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, TO ADD ON, UM, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION, THE STAFF REPORT INDICATED, UH, THAT WE HADN'T HAD A RESPONSE, UM, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE NOTICE.

UM, FOLLOWING THE PUBLICATION OF THE REPORT, UM, UH, YESTERDAY WE DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL FROM AN ATTORNEY REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER.

UH, I DID HAVE A SUBSEQUENT, UH, PHONE CONVERSATION WITH THAT GENTLEMAN, UH, TODAY, AND HE IS IN THE AUDIENCE, UM, AND IS SUBMITTED A SPEAKER SLIP AND IS READY TO ADDRESS THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, ONCE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS OPEN.

ALL RIGHT, GREAT.

UM, THANK YOU.

I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

YEP, GO AHEAD.

UH, I BELIEVE THERE WERE TWO DEATHS LAST YEAR AT, AT THE MOTEL.

UH, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE CAUSE OF THOSE DEATHS WERE? UH, THE TWO DEATHS WERE AS GOING THROUGH THE INDIVIDUAL CALLS FOR SERVICE.

UH, WE DID, STAFF DID NOT DENOTE THE ACTUAL CAUSE, UH, FOR THOSE DEATHS, BUT WE DID NOTE THAT THEY OCCURRED, UH, AT THE PROPERTY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

YES.

UH, I SAW IN THE REPORT THERE WAS TRASH IN THE BACK.

WERE THERE ANY OTHER VIOLATIONS FOR CITATIONS OF THINGS THAT HAPPENED AT THIS HOTEL OTHER THAN THIS PARTICULAR INCIDENT? UM, THE ONLY OTHER ISSUE, UH, THAT WAS KNOWN IN THE STAFF REPORT IS THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FENCE.

UM, SO THERE'S THE EASTERLY DRIVEWAY BETWEEN THE FORMER RESTAURANT AND THE MOTEL.

UM, THAT FENCE WAS CONSTRUCTED, UM, ACROSS A FIRE LANE WITHOUT APPROVAL FROM HEARTLAND FIRE AND RESCUE.

SO WE'RE ASKING THEM TO REMOVE THAT FENCE, UM, IMMEDIATELY, AND THEN TO SEEK APPROVALS FOR A FENCE, UH, THAT HAS PROPER FIRE DEPARTMENT ACCESS AND ADA ACCESS AS WELL.

PERFECT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF MOLTEN? GREAT.

WELL THANKS FOR YOUR INFORMATION AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE.

THANK YOU.

STILL AVAILABLE.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ANY OTH.

SO, MR. CHAIRMAN FA MAY, JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON, ON THOSE CALLS, UM, I DID WANNA NOTE THE, UH, OTHER, SO THE PROPERTY STANDARDS HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE TRASH AND DEBRIS, UH, THAT'S ON, UH, THE MOTEL PROPERTY, BUT ALSO ON THE ADJACENT, UH, FORMER RESTAURANT PROPERTY.

UM, WHAT I WOULD NOTE WAS WHEN I WAS AT THE SITE, THE TRASH AND DEBRIS WERE THERE FOR MULTIPLE DAYS.

UM, THE, UM, WHEN I WAS THERE, UH, IT APPEARED THAT THE TRASH AND DEBRIS WAS BEING SORTED TO SOME EXTENT.

AND THEN THERE'S A, A U-HAUL, UM, TRUCK THERE ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN.

IT LOOKED LIKE IT WAS BEING SORTED AND SOMEWHAT LOADED INTO THERE.

UM, AS OF TODAY, UM, THE, THE TRASH HAD BEEN CLEANED UP.

UM, SO I WANTED TO NOTE, UH, THAT FOR THE RECORD.

AND THEN ADDITIONALLY, UM, THIS IS THE PICTURE OF THE, UM, FENCING THAT WAS ERECTED ACROSS THE FIRE LANE, UM, BETWEEN THE MOTEL SIX PROPERTY ON THE LEFT AND THEN THE, UH, FORMER RESTAURANT ON THE RIGHT.

UM, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE STAFF PRESENTATION, I ALSO WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, THE CONSIDERATIONS, UH, FOR REVOCATION.

SO WHEN LOOKING AT A REVOCATION, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAS ASKED TO LOOK AT THE TIME THE MOTEL HAS BEEN OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE OPERATIONAL STANDARDS.

UM, THEY'RE ALSO IN, UH, SO INTENDED TO LOOK AT THE IMPACT OF THE VIOLATIONS ON THE COMMUNITY, AND THEN INFORMATION REGARDING THE EFFORTS TO REMEDY THE VIOLATIONS.

UM, SO AS I NOTED A MINUTE AGO, UM, AT THE TIME OF THE REPORT PREPARATION, WE HADN'T HEARD ANYTHING FROM THE OPERATOR.

UH, BUT THEY HAVE, UM, CONTACTED US NOW, UH, AND THEY ARE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE, UH, TO SPEAK, UH, ABOUT THEIR WILLINGNESS, UH, TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO RESOLVE THOSE VIOLATIONS.

SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UH, IS STILL TO REVOKE THE LODGING ESTABLISHMENTS DEEMED TO PROVE STATUS.

AND THEN, UH, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND, UH, THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER REQUESTS THAT THE OPERATOR, PROPERTY OWNER AND EMPLOYEES, UM, COMPLETE CERTAIN ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS.

AND THEN THE, THE PLANNING COMMISSION DIRECTS STAFF TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN AMENDMENT OR REVOCATION OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 1 1 23 WITHIN THE NEXT 90 DAYS.

UM, I DO WANT TO NOTE, UM, IN, UH, CONJUNCTION WITH THE, UH, REVOCATION ACTION THAT THE MOTEL CAN CONTINUE TO OPERATE

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BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE THAT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN PLACE SO THEY COULD CONTINUE TO OPERATE.

AND THEN IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION INITIATES AN AMENDMENT TO, OR POTENTIAL REVOCATION OF THAT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UH, THAT IF IT WERE TO BE REVOKED IN THE FUTURE, THAT WOULD BE WHEN THE MOTEL WOULD NEED TO CEASE OPERATIONS.

SO I WANTED TO JUST QUICKLY GO OVER THE RECOMMENDED ACTIONS WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS.

UM, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION GIVE DIRECTION TO THE OPERATOR TO PREPARE AN OPERATIONS AND MANAGEMENT PLAN TO ADDRESS THESE NUISANCE ACTIVITIES.

UM, REMOVE THE UNAUTHORIZED GATE THAT'S BLOCKING THE FIRE LANE BETWEEN THE, THE MOTEL AND THE FORMER RESTAURANT.

UM, IMPLEMENT A 24 HOUR PER DAY SECURITY, UH, CONTINUE TO REMOVE THE TRASH AND DEBRIS AND MAINTAIN THE PROPERTY FREE FROM TRASH AND DEBRIS AT ALL TIMES.

AND THEN, UH, SIMILARLY TO THE CODE AMENDMENTS, UH, THAT WERE PROPOSED UNDER ITEM TWO, UH, WE'D BE ASKING, UH, THE MOTEL OWNER, OPERATOR, AND EMPLOYEES TO COMPLETE, UM, THE, THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENTS.

UH, SIGN AN AFFIDAVIT, ACKNOWLEDGING THE REQUIREMENTS AND STANDARDS OF THE DEEMED APPROVED LODGING ORDINANCE, UH, COMPLETE HUMAN TRAFFICKING TRAINING OFFERED BY CSA SAN DIEGO, OR A SIMILAR HUMAN TRAFFICKING TRAINING PROVIDER.

AND THEN PROVIDE A MONTHLY REPORT TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT LISTING THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE EMERGENCY HOUSING PLACEMENT PROGRAMS. THAT'S, AGAIN, SO WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO COLLECT THAT DATA SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE BETTER SERVICES AND BE AWARE OF ANY ACTIVITIES THAT ARE OCCURRING AT THE SITE.

SO, UM, JUST BACK IN SUMMARY, UH, WE'RE AGAIN RECOMMENDING, UH, UH, REVOCATION OF THE DEAN APPROVED STATUS.

UM, ASK THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION DIRECT THE OPERATOR TO DO THESE RECOMMENDED ACTIONS WITHIN 30 DAYS, AND THEN SCHEDULE, UM, THE, UH, AN AMENDMENT TO OR CONSIDERATION OF REVOCATION OF THEIR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AT A FUTURE HEARING.

SO THAT, THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

NOW, WHEN, WHEN WERE THEY SERVED WITH THE NOTICE? UH, THE NOTICE, THE VIOLATION? SURE.

GIMME ONE SECOND.

THANK YOU.

UH, MARCH 23RD, AND THEN THE FIRST CONTACT WAS YESTERDAY? YES.

I, I WAS, I WOULD NOTE THAT THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS ARE OUT OF TOWN.

UM, SO THEY WEREN'T, UH, LOCAL ADDRESSES THAT THE NOTICE OF VIOLATION WENT TO.

UM, SO THEY, THEY WERE IN LOS ANGELES, SO WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY RECEIVED IT OR NOT, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE SAYING? I THINK I, WE WOULD ASSUME THAT THEY RECEIVED AND THAT THE, AN ATTORNEY, UM, REPRESENTING THEM AS PRESENT TONIGHT.

OKAY.

UM, YES.

COMMISSIONER ROSE, UM, CHAIRMAN ROSE? YES.

UM, THE, UH, THE RESTAURANT THAT WAS NEXT DOOR IS BEING CONVERTED TO A DAYCARE.

IS THAT AN ADULT DAYCARE OR A CHILD? DAYCARE? IT'S A CHILD DAYCARE FACILITY.

CHILD DAYCARE.

MM-HMM.

.

WELL, THAT MAKES IT EVEN MORE DETRIMENTAL.

MM-HMM.

QUESTION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES.

SINCE THAT EVENT HAPPENED, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY, ANY OTHER ISSUES SINCE THAT? ANY OF THE REPORTS OF ANYTHING OR, OR? NO.

UH, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OTHER SIGNIFICANT ISSUES AND NONE HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, ONE MORE QUESTION.

YEAH.

THAT, UH, FENCING THAT WAS BETWEEN THE RESTAURANT AND THE MOTEL, WAS THAT TO KEEP, UH, DRUG ACTIVITY TO A MINIMUM OR PEOPLE COME IN INTO THE PROMISES WHICH WERE NOT INVITED? OR DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THAT, UH, GATE WAS? UM, I DON'T KNOW THE PURPOSE OF THE GATE.

UM, I COULD MAKE SOME ASSUMPTIONS.

UM, THE, UM, ENTRANCE OR THE, UM, MOTEL LOBBY IS LOCATED ON THE, UH, WESTERLY DRIVEWAY, UM, THAT IS TO THE LEFT SIDE OF THAT DRIVEWAY.

SO I, I WOULD PRESUME THAT, UH, POTENTIALLY THE GATE WAS INSTALLED BECAUSE IT WOULD THEN REQUIRE ANYONE THAT'S ACCESSING THE SITE TO DRIVE PAST THE LOBBY AND, UH, BE VISIBLE.

UM, SO INDIVIDUALS, UH, POTENTIALLY COULD NOT ACCESS THE BACK PORTIONS OF THE PROPERTY, UM, WITHOUT BEING, BEING SEEN, BEING SEEN.

SO FOR SECURITY PURPOSES, YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, AT THIS TIME, WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING AND DO WE HAVE SPEAKER CARDS? YES, WE HAVE ONE.

JASON SKUK.

OKAY.

GOOD EVENING.

I'M JASON SAZO.

I REPRESENT THE OWNERSHIP OF THE HOTEL.

CAN YOU SPELL YOUR LAST NAME FOR US REAL QUICK? OF COURSE.

UH, S A C C U Z Z O.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, LET ME JUST START

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BY SAYING THAT, UM, OWNERSHIP IS, AND MANAGEMENT IS LISTENING VERY CAREFULLY, UH, TO THE COMMENTS HERE TODAY.

AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE HEARD, WE ARE TAKING VERY SERIOUSLY.

OWNERSHIP AND MANAGEMENT WAS JUST AS SHOCKED AS THIS COUNSEL, UH, ABOUT HEARING THE REPORTS OF, UH, THE ASSAULT, UH, CAUSED BY TWO SEX OFFENDERS ON A MINOR.

THIS WAS TAKEN VERY SERIOUSLY BY THE HOTEL.

JUST WANNA LET THE, THE COMMISSION KNOW THAT THE HOTEL IS NO LONGER ACCEPTING PATH VOUCHERS, AND HAS ALSO COME TO OUR ATTENTION THAT THIS ORGANIZATION PATH WAS NOT FOLLOWING ITS OWN PROCEDURES AS FAR AS WHO IT WAS GIVING THESE VOUCHERS OUT TO.

UH, THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE REGISTERED THROUGH A, A CENTRAL, UM, SYSTEM.

THEY DID NOT FOLLOW THAT AND SAID THEY HANDED THESE VOUCHERS OUT TO, UH, THESE INDIVIDUALS WHO THEN ENDED UP USING THEM.

THAT'S THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE.

UH, IT ALSO WAS NEVER MADE AWARE.

UH, THE HOTEL IS NEVER MADE AWARE OF THE APPARENT FACT THAT THESE FOLKS WERE BEING RELEASED FROM THE COUNTY JAILS.

SO THE HOTEL HAD NO INFORMATION AT WHATSOEVER THAT THE FOLKS THAT WERE USING THESE VOUCHERS HAD JUST BEEN RELEASED FROM JAIL.

UM, IT, IT PUTS A, A HOTEL OBVIOUSLY IN AN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT POSITION TO TRY TO VET WHO COMES TO THE HOTEL, AND CERTAINLY A HOTEL CAN'T DO A BACKGROUND CHECK ON EVERYBODY WHO COMES THERE.

UM, THAT SAID, WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO MINIMIZE THESE PROBLEMS, WE'RE OBVIOUSLY PREPARED TO DO THOSE THINGS, UH, BECAUSE AT THE VERY END OF THE DAY, WE WANT EXACTLY WHAT THE CITY WANTS.

WE WANT A SAFE AND CLEAN HOTEL.

UM, AND BEFORE I GET INTO ADDRESS SOME OF THE SPECIFIC ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED, UH, I JUST PUT OUT THE REQUEST THAT, THAT, THAT THE HOTEL IS ASKED FOR IS THAT THIS PARTICULAR VOTE ON THIS PARTICULAR MEASURE, THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM BE PUT OFF 45 TO 60 DAYS TO ALLOW US TO WORK INFORMALLY WITH THE CITY TO TRY TO COME TO A PLAN THAT EVERYBODY CAN AGREE ON.

UM, WE ARE COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH THE CITY ON THIS, THIS MATTER.

UH, AND AGAIN, WE WANT THE SAME THING.

UM, AS FAR AS REDUCING THE CA THE, THE NUMBER OF NUISANCE CALLS.

WE AGREE WE WANT TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO REDUCE THOSE CALLS.

UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE WOULD BE A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS TO TRY TO WORK OUT THIS MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, UH, WHERE WE ESSENTIALLY ESTABLISH GUIDELINES WHEN THE POLICE WOULD BE INVOLVED.

AND I THINK EVERYBODY HERE CAN AGREE THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DISCOURAGE BUSINESSES OR HOTELS FROM NOT CALLING THE POLICE.

WE JUST DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE POLICE, UH, PRIVATE SECURITY FOR ANY PARTICULAR BUSINESS.

AND WE AGREE WITH THAT.

UM, THE GATE ISSUE PRESENTS AN IN INTERESTING ISSUE.

UM, THE GATE IS THERE FOR SECURITY.

UH, IT IS THERE TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW WHO'S COMING AND GOING.

AND I COULD JUST TELL YOU FROM MY OWN PERSONAL OBSERVATIONS WITHOUT THAT GATE, THAT PROPERTY IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO MANAGE.

I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO KEEP THAT GATE IN PLACE, BUT TO MODIFY IT IN A WAY THAT EVERYBODY CAN BE HAPPY WITH.

WITHOUT THAT GATE, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MUCH BIGGER PROBLEM ON OUR HANDS, UM, THAN, THAN WE ALREADY DO.

UM, I WOULD ALSO NOTE THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF KIND OF COMMENT ON THIS HISTORICAL ISSUES OF THIS PROPERTY.

I JUST WANT THIS COMMISSION TO BE AWARE OF THE FACT THAT THE, THE BUILDING THAT IS THE VACANT BUILDING, WHICH IS, WHICH IS A FORMER RESTAURANT, WHICH IS BEING CONVERTED TO, UH, A DAYCARE CENTER.

THAT BUILDING ESSENTIALLY WAS TAKEN OVER BY SQUATTERS FOR MANY YEARS.

AND IT'S NOT THE OWNERSHIP'S PROPERTY.

THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING TO STOP THAT.

UM, FORTUNATELY IT APPEARS THAT THE SQUATTERS HAVE BEEN REMOVED AND NOW THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT THERE.

AND HOPEFULLY THAT WILL, UH, TURN THAT AREA AROUND A LITTLE BIT MORE.

UM, OWNERSHIP IS, IS PREPARED TO DISCUSS HAVING, UM, SECURITY AT THE PROPERTY.

UH, AND IN FACT, CURRENTLY THERE IS SECURITY THERE, NOT 24 HOURS A DAY, BUT JUST DURING SELECT PERIODS OF TIME.

BUT WE ARE PREPARED TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO INCREASE PRIVATE SECURITY THERE.

UM, WE ARE PREPARED TO HAVE SECURITY FROM 10:00 PM TO 6:00 AM WHICH IS HISTORICALLY THE TROUBLE PERIODS OF TIME.

UM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE, OUR EARS ARE OPEN TO LISTEN TO THE CITY TO TRY TO WORK WITH THE CITY TO TRY TO REDUCE THE ISSUES OUT THERE.

UH, THE ISSUE WITH THE TRASH AND DEBRIS, A ACTUALLY THAT TRASH AND DEBRIS WAS ACTUALLY ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARD TO FOLLOW, BUT THE LINE GOES RIGHT DOWN THE LITTLE MIDDLE OF THAT

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LOT THERE.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE FENCE AND YOU LOOK AT THE PARKING LOT, UM, ALL THAT PROPERTY'S ACTUALLY THE, UH, PROPERTY OF THE FORMER RESTAURANT.

UM, NOTWITHSTANDING THE FOREGOING WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION, UH, MANAGEMENT WENT OUT AND ENSURED THAT THAT WAS CLEANED UP.

AND AS, AS NOTED TODAY, IT HAS BEEN CLEANED UP.

UH, I ALSO HAVE IT IN THE AUDIENCE.

I HAVE, UH, MR. UH, RO ROES, HE'S THE MANAGEMENT.

UH, HE'S GONE THROUGH EXTENSIVE TRAINING AS FAR AS MANAGING HOTELS.

UH, HE'S GONE THROUGH TRAINING AS FAR AS AVOIDING, UM, UM, ISSUES WITH SEX TRADE AND, AND, AND THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

HE'S PREPARED TO GO THROUGH ADDITIONAL TRAINING AND HAVE OTHER STAFF TRAINED, UH, SO THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY DO OUR PART TO SPOT ISSUES AND TO MAKE THIS, UH, THE SAFEST HOTEL THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY MAKE.

AND AGAIN, I JUST, YOU KNOW, WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT WE WANT THE SAME THINGS THAT THE CITY WANTS EXACTLY THE SAME THINGS.

IT, IT'S UNFORTUNATE WHAT, WHAT HAS OCCURRED.

UH, THERE ARE LOTS OF THINGS THAT ARE COMPLETELY OUTSIDE OF OUR CONTROL.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH HOMELESSNESS AND THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT PRE-EXIST THIS MOTEL.

UH, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE WILLING TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO DO OUR PART TO, TO HELP THAT SITUATION.

SO AGAIN, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT WE CAN CONTINUE A VOTE ON THIS MATTER TO PERHAPS ALLOW US TO WORK WITH CITY STAFF TO COME TO, UH, UH, AN ARRANGEMENT AND AN AGREEMENT THAT WE CAN ALL BE HAPPY WITH AND TO RESOLVE THESE ISSUES.

UM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS AND I POSSIBLY CAN IF THERE ARE ANY.

YES.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR COMING.

UM, I THINK WE ALL CAN AGREE THE PURPOSE OF A BUSINESS IS TO GENERATE REVENUE, FIRST OF ALL.

BUT IN THAT GENERATION OF REVENUE, A BUSINESS IS PUT IN PLACE TO ALSO PUT A POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.

WHEN I SEE, UH, IT'S NOT UP THERE ANYMORE, WHEN I SEE OVER 360, UH, HOW MUCH 4, 364 SERVICE CALLS, IT'S NOT JUST THAT NUMBER OF SERVICE CALLS THO THAT'S MAN HOURS FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT COULD BE DOING OTHER THINGS.

UM, IT'S ALARMING TO ME TO SEE THAT WHEN I READ IT.

I ACTUALLY HAD TO READ IT TWICE.

CAUSE I WAS, EVEN IF YOU TAKE OUT THE MEDICAL, THAT'S STILL WELL OVER 200 PLUS CALLS, UM, IT'S DIFFICULT, AT LEAST FOR ME, HAVING BEEN A BUSINESS OWNER IN THE PAST, IT'S DIFFI IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ME, UM, FOR IT TO GET TO THIS POINT THAT NOW THE TRASH IS BEING PICKED UP BECAUSE WHAT WAS BOUGHT TO, YOU KNOW, HERE, UM, NOW YOU'RE SAYING SOME OF IT'S NOT ON THE PROPERTY AND IT, IT VERY WELL COULD BE, BUT WHEN IT AFFECTS A HOTEL OR MOTEL, WHEN YOU SEE THAT AMOUNT OF DEBRIS THAT THAT HAS A, THAT HAS AN EFFECT ON THE COMMUNITY AND IT HAS AN EFFECT ON THE BUSINESS AS WELL.

I JUST AM HAVING A HARD TIME RECONCILING HOW IT BECAME SO, UH, DILAPIDATED AT THAT POINT.

EVEN IF IT'S, EVEN THOUGH SOME OF IT, LIKE YOU SAY, AND I CAN SEE THAT SOME OF IT'S NOT ON YOUR PROPERTY, IT'S NOT, BUT AT, AT THE SAME TIME, AS A BUSINESS OWNER, IF THAT PLACE IS VACANT, YOU EITHER I WOULD PERSONALLY CONTACT WHOEVER RUNNING THAT PROPERTY, OR IF I HAVE TO PICK UP MYSELF FOR THE NEED OF, YOU KNOW, FOR MY PARTICULAR BUSINESS.

UM, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE CONCERNS.

NOT WITHSTANDING THE, I I WOULDN'T CALL IT AN UNFORTUNATE INCIDENT.

WHAT HAPPENED, I WOULD CALL IT AN EGREGIOUS INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED.

UM, THE, I HAVE A LOT OF CONCERNS.

IT'S PARTICULARLY THE AMOUNT OF SERVICE CALLS AND THE TYPE OF SERVICE CALLS.

YEP.

ANY QUESTIONS? YES.

JUST A QUESTION.

YOU SAID THERE WASN'T SECURITY PRIOR, BUT NOW YOU DO HAVE SECURITY.

HOW LONG HAVE YOU HAD THAT SECURITY? WHAT, UM, I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR, UM, VERY, VERY RECENTLY SINCE THE, OKAY.

HAS IT EVER BEEN CONSIDERED BEFORE TO KIND OF ALLEVIATE SOME OF THESE ISSUES FROM HAPPENING BEFORE THAT? OKAY.

WE JUST HAD A, A GAP IN BETWEEN.

OKAY.

PERFECT.

I, WE JUST HAVE A GAP IN BETWEEN.

UM, WITH, WITH TRANSITION WE HAD 24 HOUR BEFORE, WE HAD SMALL GAP IN BETWEEN, AND THEN WE, WE'VE GOT BACK.

MR. CHAIRMAN, CAN WE ASK THE SPEAKER TO COME DOWN TO THE DIOCESE? NO.

TO COME DOWN.

HAVE THE, AND, UH, GIVE US YOUR NAME, SPELLING YOUR LAST NAME.

UH, MARK RFU.

OKAY.

HOW DO YOU SPELL YOUR LAST NAME? R O L F E S.

OKAY.

SO THEN PRIOR YOU DID HAVE 24 HOUR SECURITY AND THERE WAS A GAP, AND NOW IT'S SO, BUT NOW AND, AND WITH 24 HOUR SECURITY SIMILAR CALLS.

OKAY.

BECAUSE I KNOW HE MENTIONED 12 TO SIX, SO I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WAS 10 TO SIX.

YEAH, 10 TO SIX.

OKAY.

PERFECT.

OKAY.

OKAY, GREAT.

UM, YES.

SO WHAT, BEFORE YOU GO, WHAT WAS THE CATALYST TO BRING IN THE SECURITY? WE, WE'VE ALWAYS

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HAD SECURITY.

UM, BUT I, I, THIS INCIDENT MADE US RAMP IT UP AND EVEN GO MORE.

WE JUST HAD A, LIKE I SAID, WE HAD A GAP IN BETWEEN ONE COMPANY LEFT.

WE WERE LOOKING FOR A NEW COMPANY, AND IN THAT GAP WE HAD THIS, UH, INCIDENT TAKE PLACE.

SO THAT, THAT, AGAIN, THEN THE QUESTION TO ME COMES, ASIDE FROM THIS INCIDENT, THE 300 PLUS SERVICE CALLS DIDN'T CALL FOR.

SO WHEN WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH, UM, LIKE HOMELESS FOLKS WILL GET ONTO THE PROPERTY AND WE TRY TO DEAL WITH IT, OR SECURITY TRIES TO DEAL WITH IT.

AND A LOT OF TIMES THEY THREATEN US WITH VIOLENCE.

I'VE BEEN MACED IN THE FACE, I'VE BEEN HELD AT KNIFE POINT, I'VE BEEN PUNCHED IN THE FACE, I'VE BEEN HIT IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD EIGHT TIMES.

I NEED ASSISTANCE IN THAT.

I'M, YOU KNOW, I I, I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN IN THE COURTHOUSE HERE.

UM, FIRST OF ALL, SO I'VE ENDURED TRYING TO PROTECT THE PROPERTY AND PROTECT THE COMMUNITY.

UM, MY FATHER, MY BROTHER DIED IN THIS COMMUNITY.

AS ONE OF THOSE FOLKS.

I TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY.

IT MEANS SOMETHING TO ME.

AND, UH, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME.

IT, MOST OFFICERS WILL TELL YOU FROM WHEN I CAME HERE THREE YEARS AGO TO WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW, IT IS A THOUSAND TIMES BETTER, A MILLION TIMES BETTER.

UM, I'VE BUILT FENCES, I'VE DONE A LOT OF THINGS TO TRY AND MAKE THIS COMMUNITY BETTER AND MAKE THE AREA BETTER.

I WORK 14 TO 18 HOURS A DAY TO TRY AND BATTLE THAT I'M OUT THERE MYSELF AS A FORMER MARINE GRINDING, TRYING TO KEEP THIS COMMUNITY SAFE.

QUESTION FOR YOU, UM, SOME OF THOSE CALLS FOR SERVICE, WOULD THEY BE RELATED TO THE SQUATTERS NEXT DOOR? YES.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AND, UH, YEP.

UH, UH, MR. ROSS? YES, SIR.

THOSE TWO DEATHS WERE THERE.

DRUG OVERDOSES, NATURAL CAUSES.

NATURAL CAUSES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YES.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR MR. UH, SAZO.

YES.

UM, SO CURRENTLY THE WAY THAT WE'VE GOT THIS SET UP IS, UM, THE PLAN, THE OPERATIONS PLAN, EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE LAID OUT THERE, SECURITY, WE'VE GIVEN YOU A WINDOW OF 30 DAYS TO COMPLY.

FROM WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING, YOU'RE ASKING FOR MAYBE MORE TIME TO COMPLY? THAT'S CORRECT, YOUR HONOR.

I MEAN, TYPICAL ATTORNEY, I'M TOO USED TO BE IN A COURT.

YEAH.

UH, THAT'S CORRECT.

UH, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN .

YEAH.

OKAY.

UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, I, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, UM, WE CAN MAYBE WORK ON SOMETHING WITH THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO, UH, WHAT, UH, WHAT'S THE WORD? UH, CONTINUE THIS, THIS HEARING FOR NOW, BUT, UM, THAT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE, AND YOU'RE THINKING 60 DAYS WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMETHING YOU CAN DO.

UM, DO YOU KNOW WHY IT TOOK SO LONG FOR THE RESPONSE? I BELIEVE THAT WE WERE TRYING TO KIND OF WRAP OUR ARMS AROUND THIS WHOLE SITUATION AND, AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON, FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS PATH, UH, ORGANIZATION.

AND OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE SOME LEGAL ISSUES WITH THESE VOUCHERS AND FAIR HOUSING THAT, UH, HAD TO BE EVALUATED BEFORE WE COULD REALLY TAKE ANY ACTION.

GREAT.

OKAY.

YES.

COMMISS, THE, UH, THE, UH, OWNERSHIP OF THE MOTEL SIX, IS IT A FRANCHISE? IT'S NOT A FRANCHISE, IT'S, IT'S PRIVATE OWNERSHIP.

SO IT'S AN L IT IS A FRANCHISE.

IT IS A FRANCHISED, UH, MOTEL SIX.

IT IS.

OKAY.

SO IT'S AN LLC THAT OWNS IT RIGHT NOW? YES.

A LIMITED PARTNERSHIP.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

GREAT.

UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR? YES.

NOT SO MUCH A QUESTION, BUT JUST, UH, CLARIFICATION.

THE HEARING TONIGHT IS ABOUT REVOKING THE DEEMED TO APPROVED STATUS, WHICH WOULD THEN TAKE YOU OUTTA THE POOL OF ALL THE HOTEL MOTEL PROPERTIES AND PUT YOU INTO THE C U P THAT ALREADY EXISTS FOR THE PROPERTY, SO IT WON'T BE INTERFERING WITH THE OPERATIONS OF THE PROPERTY.

BUT THEN WE'VE GOT THESE, UH, THESE MITIGATION EFFORTS.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S TRAINED, AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT YOUR MANAGER ALREADY HAS GONE THROUGH SOME OF THIS TRAINING, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE THE TOOLS IN YOUR MO MANAGER AS THE TOOLS AND HIS STAFF HAVE THE TOOLS TO HELP ALLEVIATE THE ISSUES THAT ARE GOING ON ON THIS PROPERTY.

SO I THINK WE GAVE ORIGINALLY RECOMMENDED 30 DAYS.

WE COULD AMEND THAT TO 60 DAYS, AND WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE A HEARING COMING FORWARD AGAIN IF WE PASS THIS IN 90 DAYS TO SEE WHAT PROGRESS HAS BEEN MADE AND TO LOOK AT WHERE WE'RE GOING FROM THERE.

UNDERSTOOD.

OKAY.

GREAT.

YES.

QUICK QUESTION, MAYBE FOR STAFF.

I KNOW THE DAYCARE CENTER NEXT DOOR THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON SOME THINGS.

HOW LONG HAS THAT BUILDING BEEN VACATED WITH THE SQUATTING SITUATION THAT WAS CURRENTLY THERE? CUZ I KNOW THAT YOU SAID IT WAS A PROBLEM IN THE PAST.

UM, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT TIMEFRAME.

UH, WE DID WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER TO GET ONSITE SECURITY.

SO THERE IS A, UM,

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A TRAILER, UH, THAT'S PARKED TO THE SOUTH OF THE FORMER RESTAURANT BUILDING WHERE THERE'S AN ONSITE CARETAKER THAT'S MANAGING THE PROPERTY.

OKAY.

I BELIEVE THE TEMPORARY USE PERMIT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR AT LEAST SIX MONTHS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO IT'S BEEN QUITE SOME TIME.

OKAY, PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, THE, THE CHINESE RESTAURANT SHUT DOWN IN 2020, AND I, I GO UP AROUND THAT RAMP A LOT.

I WATCHED THE PROPERTY DETERIORATE, AND THEN WHEN I SAW THIS FENCE GO, I WAS LIKE, OH, SOMEBODY'S DOING SOMETHING RIGHT.

YES, COMMISSIONER, I WANT TO STAY WITHIN THE SCOPE OF, OF THIS HEARING, BUT IT DOES IMPACT IT.

AND THIS IS MORE FOR STAFF.

DO YOU KNOW WHEN THAT DAYCARE CENTER'S GONNA OPEN? UM, THE BUILDING PERMIT WAS ISSUED LAST WEEK, AND SO IT'LL BE DEPENDENT UPON THEIR ABILITY TO COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THAT PERMIT.

SO THEY'RE CHANGING THE OCCUPANCY, THEY'RE PUTTING UP NEW WALLS, NEW ELECTRICAL, UM, AND DOING A LOT OF WORK.

SO AS SOON AS THAT WORK IS COMPLETE, THEY'RE ISSUED AS, UM, A FINAL BUILDING PERMIT, THEY COULD, UH, COMMENCE OPERATIONS.

RIGHT.

SO ULTIMATELY IT'S DEPENDENT UPON THEIR CONTRACTOR.

GREAT.

AND THEN LAST THING, UH, MR. SAZO, THE YOU UNDER THE SITUATION WITH THE GATE IS IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT A APPROVED GATE, MEANING A FIRE DEPARTMENT COULD NEVER GET THROUGH THAT GATE AND IN THE CASE OF AN EMERGENCY, AND SO, UH, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT YOU, YOU NEED TO KEEP IT THERE.

SO MY, MY, UH, THOUGHTS ARE YOU NEED TO, YOU NEED TO GET WITH HEARTLAND FLYER AND THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNER LIKE IMMEDIATELY, BECAUSE OTHERWISE THAT THING HAS GOT TO COME DOWN.

AGREED.

IT COULD CREATE A BIGGER PROBLEM IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY THERE THAN JUST KEEPING PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, OUTTA THERE.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE REASON WHY IT'S THERE, BUT TO ME THAT'S GOTTA BE AT THE TOP OF THE LIST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT IS NOT ACCESSIBLE TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

IT'S ON THE TOP OF THE LIST.

OKAY.

GREAT.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOPE.

ALL RIGHT.

GREAT.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

YOU BET.

ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? NO.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THIS TIME I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.

I SECOND IT.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MOROSE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SOLE.

PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO YOU'VE SEEN ALL THE CONDITIONS.

CAN YOU, CAN YOU PUT THOSE BACK UP ON THE SCREEN IF IT'S POSSIBLE, IF THEY ALL FIT? I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DO.

UH, THERE'S ANOTHER, SO WE SEPARATED THOSE INTO TWO SLIDES.

UH, BUT THE RECOMMENDED ACTIONS WITHIN 30 DAYS, UM, AGAIN, I WOULD, THESE AREN'T, UM, NECESSARILY CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.

THIS IS DIRECTION THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WOULD BE PROVIDING TO THE APPLICANT, RIGHT.

IN CONJUNCTION WITH WORKING WITH STAFF.

AND SO OBVIOUSLY IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WI WISHES TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL LATITUDE ON, ON THE TIME GOING FROM 30 TO 45 DAYS, THAT'S WHEN THE, WITHIN THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S PURVIEW.

UM, AND THERE CAN ALSO BE SOME FLEXIBILITY ON, UH, WORKING WITH STAFF TO, TO GET A PERMANENT GATE THAT'S APPROVED BY HEARTLAND FIRE AND RESCUE.

UM, AND THEN, UH, BUT WE DO WANT TO SEE, YOU KNOW, SOME IMMEDIATE ACTIONS, UM, INCLUDING THE CONTINUATION OF THE SECURITY SERVICE.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE PLANNING COMMISSION CAN DELIBERATE, UH, AS TO WHETHER THAT SHOULD BE 24 HOURS OR OF, UH, MORE LIMITED DURATION AS PROPOSED BY THE MM-HMM.

, UH, THE SPEAKER.

UM, AND THEN, UH, THE OTHER ITEMS WERE JUST THE, UM, ACTIONS TO BE TAKEN BY THE EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS THE OPERATORS, UM, ACKNOWLEDGING THE STANDARDS THAT ARE IN THE DEEMED TO APPROVE LODGING ORDINANCE AND THEN COMPLETING THE TRAINING AND THEN PROVIDING INFORMATION TO STAFF ON A MONTHLY BASIS RELATED TO, UM, INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN EMERGENCY PROGRAMS. GREAT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

UM, YES, I, I THINK GIVING EXTRA TIME IS A GOOD IDEA, BUT 60 DAYS MIGHT BE A LITTLE TOO MUCH TIME AS, UH, COMMISSIONER EDISON POINTED OUT, YOU KNOW, THE DAYCARE FACILITY MIGHT BE OPENING UP WITHIN THAT TIME FRAME, SO POSSIBLY 45 DAYS MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME, SO WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON REGARDING THAT.

UH, CHILDCARE DAY CENTER, IF IT OPENED UP ITS DOORS OR NOT.

SO WE CAN GO AHEAD, BECAUSE I THINK THAT WOULD BE, THE SAFETY OF THE CHILDREN IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, AND, UH, SINCE I, I KNOW WE HAD, UH, SEX OFFENDERS ARE THERE AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA TAKE ANY MORE VOUCHERS, THAT'S GREAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE OTHER SEX OFFENDERS COMING IN THAT COMMUNITY AND, UH, I DON'T LIKE TO SEE ANY OTHER, UH, CHILD BEING, UH, ENDANGERED.

YEAH.

SO I WOULD SAY 45 DAYS TO ME WOULD BE A REASONABLE OKAY.

EXTENSION, YES.

COMMISSION, HARRISON, I DON'T SEE FROM WHAT THE STAFF PUT UP AND WHY THAT WOULD TAKE MORE THAN, UH, 30 DAYS.

UM, GIVEN THAT SOME OF THE TRAINING'S ALREADY BEEN GOING ON, UM, I DON'T SEE WHY WE DON'T HAVE A 24 HOUR A DAY SECURITY GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF SERVICE CALLS SO WE CAN ALE, ALLEVIATE

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MAYBE SOME OF THE SERVICE CALLS.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING.

UM, SO THAT WAY WE CAN FIND OUT IF SOME OF THIS ACTION PLAN IS WORKING AHEAD OF WHEN THE, UM, THE DAYCARE CENTER OPENS.

I THINK THAT WE SHOULD USE SOME ALACRITY IN THIS, AND I THINK 30 DAYS IS APPROPRIATE.

GREAT.

RIGHT.

FELLOW COMMISSIONERS? WELL, UM, AS SOMEBODY WHO OPERATES AND HELPS TRAIN PEOPLE ON OUR CAMPUS, UH, GIVING THEM A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA TIME TO MAKE SURE THEY GET IT DONE, I THINK WORKS FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND THE DAYCARE CENTER, UNLESS THEY'VE GOT GREAT CONTRACTORS ARE NOT OPENING IN THE NEXT 45 DAYS.

YEAH.

UH, SO I THINK GIVING THEM A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO COMPLETE THE ACTIONS IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL.

OKAY.

I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, WE TALKED ABOUT THE UNAUTHORIZED GATE, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AS A FORMER SECURITY GUARD, I WOULD NOT WANT TO GET RID OF THE GATE, BUT RATHER SWITCH IT OUT.

SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD DIRECT THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO WORK WITH HEARTLAND FIRE AND USE THE IMMEDIATELY TERM THERE, BUT MM-HMM.

, YOU DEFINITELY IMMEDIATELY GET TO WORK ON PUTTING IN A FIRE APPROVED GATE BECAUSE WITHOUT, WITHOUT ACCESS TO THAT END, THEY CAN CONTROL THE OTHER END.

MM-HMM.

, AS A PRIVATE PATROL OFFICER, I WAS JUST ACROSS THE FREEWAY AND WE DIDN'T HAVE GATES ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

MY FIRST JOB EVERY MORNING WAS TO WALK THE EDGE OF THE BUILDING AND KICK EVERYBODY OUT BEFORE THE OCCUPANTS OF THE BUILDING ARRIVED.

RIGHT.

AND SO I, I WHOLEHEARTEDLY SUPPORT HAVING A GATE THERE AND IT NEEDS TO BE SWAPPED OUT, NOT REMOVED, AND THEN FIND OUT WHAT GOES IN INSTEAD.

YEP.

NO, I AGREE.

I AGREE.

MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY JUST CLARIFY ONE THING ON THE GATE.

UM, THE, THE ONE NUANCE I THINK IT WAS ALLUDED TO IN THE TESTIMONY IS THAT, UM, THE PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN THE MOTEL SIX AND THE, AND THE DAYCARE FACILITY, UH, ESSENTIALLY GOES DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THAT DRIVEWAY DRIVEWAY.

RIGHT.

UM, THE PROPERTY OWNER FOR THE, THE DAYCARE FACILITY HAS INDICATED THAT HE WOULD PREFER NOT TO SEE THE GATE IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION, UM, IN THE FUTURE WHEN THE DAYCARE OPENS, BECAUSE THAT'S, UH, PARKING THAT'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO HIS PRIMARY ENTRANCE, UH, TO THE FACILITY.

SO I THINK THE, THE ISSUE IS THAT WE WANT TO SEE THE GATE REMOVED SO THAT THERE'S, UM, FIRE ACCESS, UH, VIA THE FIRE LANE, AND THEN WE WANT THE PROPERTY OWNER TO WORK WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER TO COME UP WITH AN IMPROVED, UH, A, UH, APPROVABLE, UH, FINAL SOLUTION AND LOCATION THAT'S AMENABLE TO BOTH PARTIES.

OKAY.

SO I, I WANTED TO, SO THAT'S, WHAT'S THAT PROPERTY LINE THAT GATE'S ACTUALLY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE PROPERTY? YES.

AND SO THAT'S WHY I, I JUST WANTED IT TO BE CLEAR THAT THIS MAY NOT BE AN IMMEDIATE ANSWER OF WE CAN APPROVE THAT TOMORROW, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S CONTROVERSY BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

YES.

YES.

MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MIGHT, UM, UH, THE TRAIL WITH, UH, MR. ALVEZ JUST INDICATED, I THINK BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT HAVE BEEN GENERATED AT THIS PROPERTY, AND OF COURSE THE, THE UNFORTUNATE EVENT THAT THIS RECENTLY OCCURRED, I THINK THAT'S FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, THAT THE SECURITY SERVICE ISSUE NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED IN THE NEAR TERM AND NOT THE, NOT A LONGER TERM.

SO WHEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION DELIBERATES ON, UH, WHAT ACTIONS CAN HAVE LONGER TIME, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT SECURITY SERVICE IS NOT ONE OF THOSE MM-HMM.

AND THAT THEY WORK, UM, IN CONCERT WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, AT 10 TO SIX, 10:00 PM TO SIX, UM, AM MAY BE, UM, UH, AGREEABLE AS LONG AS THERE IS AT LEAST TWO STAFF PERSONS DURING THAT TIME OR MORE FOR THAT SIZE OF PROPERTY.

AT LEAST THAT'S STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE.

AND I THINK IN THE OTHER ISSUES, UM, IF THE, IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION WISHES TO, UM, ALLOW MORE TIME, WE, UM, WE, WE ARE, ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR SUPPORT THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION, UM, AND AS MR. ALVI INDICATED, UM, AND AS WE'VE JUST HEARD FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL BE BRINGING BACK THEIR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S REVIEW IMPLEMENTATION OF ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS OR POTENTIAL REVOCATION, UM, LESS THAN 90 DAYS FROM TODAY.

TONIGHT.

OKAY.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, THE 10:00 PM 6:00 AM I THINK WE NEED TO GO MORE LIKE 6:00 PM 6:00 AM I MEAN, THINGS HAPPEN BETWEEN EIGHT AND 10:00 PM TOO.

I JUST THINK THAT WHEN THE SUN GOES DOWN, THINGS GET WEIRD.

SO I, I WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT, I THINK 10:00 PM STARTING SECURITY.

I WOULD BE MORE, UH, IF, IF WE'RE NOT GONNA DO 24 HOUR 6:00 PM TO 6:00 AM MINIMUM, I BELIEVE THE MANAGER INDICATED THAT THEY HAVE 24

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HOUR SERVICE NOW.

AND WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, UH, 6:00 PM TO 6:00 AM THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THAT AND 10 TO SIX, 10 TO SIX IS ONE SHIFT.

SO IF YOU HAVE A SHIFT AND A HALF, THAT GETS REALLY DICEY WITH EMPLOYING YEAH.

SOME GUARDS THERE.

SO IS IT, IS IT 24 HOURS, IS IT OR NOT? IT WAS 24 HOURS.

IT IS NOW 10 TO SIX, BUT I CAN GET A 12 HOUR GARDEN NO TIME FLAT GIVEN THE SCOPE, THE TRYING TO STAIN WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR TODAY, GIVEN WHAT'S OCCURRED.

I, I JUST DON'T SEE HOW YOU COULD AFFORD NOT TO DO A 24 HOUR.

IT'S A SMALL REQUEST THAT COULD AS ASSIST TREMENDOUSLY.

I MEAN, WE'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM THE OWNER WHAT HE'S GONE THROUGH, AND I YEAH.

AND THAT'S UNFORTUNATE.

I AGREE.

AND I DO AGREE WITH THAT.

OKAY.

AND ALSO YOU HAVE TO REALIZE THAT, UH, MOST OF THE, UH, HOMELESS PEOPLE, UH, THEY OPERATE AT NIGHT DURING THE DAYS WHEN THEY SLEEP BECAUSE IT'S TOO DANGEROUS TO SLEEP AT NIGHT.

SO MOST OF THE ACTIVITY IS, UH, WHEN IT GETS DARK.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THEN WHAT, WHAT I'M, I'M SEEING HERE THEN IS WE ALL AGREE THAT WE JUST WANNA KEEP IT 24 HOURS SECURITY.

DOES THAT MAKE THE MOST SENSE? THEY USED TO HAVE IT.

THINGS ARE GOING ON.

ASSAULTS ARE STILL TAKING PLACE TO PROTECT THE STAFF EVEN, YOU KNOW MM-HMM.

.

UM, I WOULD POINT OUT THAT IN THE PAST YEAR THEY HAVE HAD 24 HOUR SERVICE AND ALL OF THESE STILL TOOK PLACE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

BUT, UH, I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY, UH, THEY CAN'T WORK OUT THE DETAILS OF THE STAFFING FOR SECURITY WITH OUR STAFF.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

IN STAFF WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT DONE WITHIN 30 DAYS AS WELL AS THE GATE.

I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE I WOULD BE OKAY WITH 45 DAYS, BUT THOSE TWO ITEMS FOR SURE NEED TO BE ADDRESSED IMMEDIATELY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, AND THEN JUST TO REITERATE, MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, THE, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS TO REVOKE, UH, THE DEAN TO APPROVE STATUS.

UM, I, FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE, WE THINK THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT AT A MINIMUM IS WARRANTED BECAUSE WE NEED MORE ROBUST CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL RELATED TO SECURITY AND FENCING AND OTHER THINGS.

SO, UM, JUST WANTED TO ONCE AGAIN EMPHASIZE, UM, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

GREAT.

AND THEN CAN WE, THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, WE CAN AMEND THESE RECOMMENDATIONS WHEN WE MAKE OUR MOTION CORRECT, OR THESE JUST RECOMMENDATIONS, OR THIS IS, IS EVEN ON THE TABLE.

THE ONLY THING ON THE TABLE IS THE, IS THE REVOCATION.

SO THE, THE RECOMMENDED ACTION IS TO REVOKE THE, THE DEED TO PROOF STATUS FOR THE LODGING ESTABLISHMENT.

CORRECT.

WHICH JUST, UH, TAKES AWAY THAT THOSE BASE, UH, REGULATIONS THAT APPLY TO THEM.

AND SO THAT DIRECTION BASICALLY IS ALERTING THE APPLICANT TO THE FACT THAT THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WILL BE AMENDED AND THAT, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT ADDING ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL RELATED TO THEIR OPERATION.

UM, THE ACTIONS THAT WE'RE ASKING THAT THE APPLICANT TAKE WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS IS REALLY TO PUT US IN A PLACE OF SUCCESS SO THAT WE CAN BE PREPARED WITH APPROPRIATE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR THAT REVOCATION HEARING, AND THEN TO MAKE SURE THAT THE APPLICANT IS SERIOUS WITH REGARDS TO WHAT THEY'VE STATED IN THE HEARING TONIGHT ABOUT THEIR, UM, DEDICATION TO RESOLVING THIS ISSUE AND MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF THE, UM, ALL THE ISSUES ARE RESOLVED.

ALL RIGHT.

SO THEN IT'D BE SAFE TO SAY THAT, UM, FOR THE RECORD, THE COMMISSION AGREES WITH MOVING FORWARD IMMEDIATELY WITH, YOU KNOW, NO MORE THAN 30 DAYS ON THE SECURITY MM-HMM.

AND THE FENCE ISSUE AND 45 DAYS ON EVERYTHING ELSE.

YEAH.

AND I WOULD SAY THAT THEY'RE NOT, THESE AREN'T CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.

IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROVIDING DIRECTION TO THE APPLICANT, AND WE WILL REPORT BACK ON THOSE.

UM, SO THERE MAY BE SOME NUANCE THAT GETS, UM, UH, DISCOVERED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PREPARATION OF THE OPERATIONS AND MANAGEMENT PLAN, UH, THAT MAYBE WARRANTS, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT DOING 24 HOUR SECURITY, BUT MAYBE DOING 16 HOUR SECURITY.

SO I THINK IF, IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO PROVIDE THE GENERAL DIRECTION TO, UM, IMPLEMENT THESE RECOMMENDED ACTIONS, ALLOW STAFF TO, UH, WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S THE RIGHT FIT, THEN WE CAN REPORT ON THOSE, UH, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE, UM, FUTURE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT HEARING.

YEAH.

AND I BELIEVE THE HOTEL OWNERS AND LAWYER AND MANAGER ALL WANT WHAT WE WANT.

THEY WANT THEIR PROPERTY TO BE SAFE, WELCOMING, AND CLEAN.

YEP.

NO, AND I THINK, I THINK THEY UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE AT.

UM, AND THEN, SORRY, JUST TO ADD, UM, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS WILLING TO WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE MAKING THE APPROPRIATE DETERMINATION ABOUT THE LEVEL OF SECURITY THAT'S WARRANTED FOR THE SITE.

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UM, SO IF YOU WANTED TO INCLUDE THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH A MOTION, UM, WE COULD TAKE THAT, UH, AND IMPLEMENT THAT.

OKAY.

PERFECT.

OKAY.

YEAH.

ALL RIGHT.

I, UH, I, UH, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID, BUT I, I'D LIKE TO SEE, UH, I DO SHARE THE CONCERNS THAT, UH, SHANNON HAS, UH, COMMISSIONER SHANNON, UH, BUT I THINK 45 DAYS WE'RE GIVING TIME FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO WORK WITH THE CITY, AND, UM, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

AND THEN DITTO EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED HERE THIS EVENING.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, ANYONE CARE TO GIVE THE MOTION TO STAB ? YEAH, GOOD NOTES.

UM, I WILL MAKE A MOTION I MOVE TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION IN ORDER REVOKING DEEMED APPROVED STATUS AND DIRECT THE OPERATOR OR PROPERTY OWNER TO COMPLETE CERTAIN ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS AND 45 DAYS, AS WE NOTED IN OUR DISCUSSION AND DIRECT STAFF TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN AMENDMENT OR REVOCATION OF C P NUMBER 1, 1 23 WITHIN THE NEXT 90 DAYS.

I, I SECOND IT.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CER, UH, CERCO SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER.

SO PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

GREAT.

OKAY.

AND, UH, GOOD LUCK WITH STAFF.

UH, WE'VE NEVER HAD TO REVOKE A C U P EVER, AND I HOPE THIS ISN'T THE FIRST ONE, SO WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU GUYS GET, GET THAT IN ORDER, AND, UH, WE'LL SEE YOU GUYS BACK HERE IN 60 TO 90 DAYS.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AT THIS TIME, IS THERE OTHER ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION? STAFF? NO ADDITIONAL ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION FROM STAFF.

GREAT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, COMMUNICATION FOR STAFF? NOPE.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, SEEING THAT THERE'S NONE, THEN I MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

I SECOND THAT MOTION.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MAROSE, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER ERCO.

PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

ALL RIGHT.

THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED TILL MAY 2ND, 2023 AT 7:00 PM.