Mar 14, 2023 City Council Meeting 3pm

[ CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Bill Wells]

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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN TO THE EL CAJON CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THE MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER, AND I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR CITY CLERK TO PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER ORTIZ, ABSENT OF OTHERS PRESENT.

WOULD YOU ALL PLEASE, UH, STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE REMAIN STANDING FOR A BRIEF MOMENT OF SILENCE AFTERWARDS? AYE.

PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU.

[ POSTINGS: The City Clerk posted Orders of Adjournment of the February 28, 2023, Meeting and the Agenda of the March 14, 2023, Meeting in accordance to State Law and City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the Redevelopment Agency Policy.]

I WOULD LIKE TO ONCE AGAIN INVITE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO ATTEND THE 2023 STATE OF THE CITY EVENT.

JOIN US AS WE REFLECT ON THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE PAST YEAR AND SHARE WHAT IS COMING IN THE YEAR AHEAD.

THIS WILL BE HELD ON MARCH 28TH, 2023 AT 6:00 PM AT THE COURTYARD MARRIOTT, WHICH IS RIGHT OVER THERE, LOCATED AT 1 41 MAGNOLIA AVENUE, WHICH IS JUST ACROSS THE PARKING LOT FROM CITY HALL.

THERE ARE NO PRESENTATIONS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANY AGENDA CHANGES? NO, SIR.

COUNSEL.

OKAY.

[7. CONSENT ITEMS: Consent Items are routine matters enacted by one motion according to the RECOMMENDATION listed below. With the concurrence of the City Council, a Council Member or person in attendance may request discussion of a Consent Item at this time.]

COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO YOU WANNA PULL ANY OF THE CONSENT ITEMS? UH, MR. GOBLE? I'D LIKE TO PULL ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.

ITEM EIGHT AND STAFF? ANY? NO, SIR.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, TALK ABOUT EIGHT FIRST.

I'LL LEAVE TO YOU, STEVE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, IT'S A RELATIVELY SMALL CONTRACT, $114,000, BUT IT'S FOR UP TO THREE YEARS AND LICENSE PLATE READERS, BECAUSE THEY DO INVOLVE PUBLIC PRIVACY AND SOME CURRENT CONCERNS.

I THOUGHT IT'D BE BETTER IF WE ACTUALLY ANSWERED SOME QUESTIONS BEFORE WE PUSH THE BUTTON TO BUY, RATHER THAN BUY THE CAMERAS AND THEN ASK QUESTIONS.

THAT SEEMS LIKE A BETTER WAY TO, TO RUN THAT.

SO, UM, I GUESS I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, HOW THINGS ARE USED, AND THE CITY MANAGER SAYS HE'S PREPARED FOR THOSE QUESTIONS.

HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO HANDLE THAT? UM, UH, MR. GO? I DON'T THINK MY MICROPHONES ARE, BUT, UH, THERE YOU GO.

OH, THERE HE GOES.

UH, WE, UH, WE DO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE, THE VENDOR, BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

SO I'D INVITE CAPTAIN BATES TO COME DOWN AND MAYBE ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE THAT ARE POLICE RELATED.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM FALCON HERE THAT CAN ANSWER ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE SYSTEM ITSELF.

SOUNDS GOOD.

OKAY.

UH, WITH THE PLAN, WHAT KIND OF INFORMATION WOULD BE COLLECTED FROM THE CAMERAS? SO, FOR THE GOOD AFTERNOON, FIRST OF ALL, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

UH, SO I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE LIEUTENANT WILL GARRIN, HE'S OUR INVESTIGATIONS COMMANDER.

HE WAS THE PROJECT LEAD ON THIS FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SIDE.

AND AS THE CITY MANAGER STATED, WE ALSO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM, UH, FLOCK HERE WHO CAN ANSWER ANY OF THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF HOW THE SYSTEM ACTUALLY WORKS.

OKAY.

SO I GUESS MY FIRST QUESTION IS, WHAT INFO IN OUR CONFIGURATION WOULD BE COLLECTED? UH, GOOD AFTERNOON.

MY NAME IS HECTOR S VALDEZ.

I'M HERE WITH FLOCK SAFETY.

UH, THE WAY THAT, UH, THE FALCON CAMERAS WORK, WHICH IS WHAT YOU ALL WOULD BE PURCHASING, UH, YOU WOULD BE CAPTURING IMAGES OF THE BACK OF A VEHICLE, UH, AND THE METADATA ASSOCIATED WITH THAT VEHICLE.

UH, SPECIFICALLY WHAT'S THE VEHICLE TYPE, UH, YOU KNOW, COLOR, THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION ASSOCIATED WITH THE VEHICLE IN SPECIFIC.

SO I'M HEARING THE BACK OF THE VEHICLE, NOT THE FRONT OF THE VEHICLE? CORRECT.

YOU CAN ONLY SEE THE BACK OF VEHICLES.

UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE POINTED AWAY IN, IN THE DIRECTION OF TRAFFIC.

SO YOU'RE CAPTURING THE, THE, THE BACK OF THE VEHICLE AS THEY'RE GOING, NOT COMING AT YOU.

OKAY.

THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW.

WHO CAN ACCESS THE FOOTAGE.

THE FOOTAGE IS ONLY ACCESSED BY YOUR DEPARTMENT.

UH, THEY CAN SHARE THAT DATA WITH OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, UH, WITHIN THE SYSTEM.

ALL OF THAT, UM, IS TRACKED AND AUDITED.

UH, BUT NO, YOUR DEPARTMENT OWNS THE DATA.

UH, IT IS NOT SHARED WITH ANYONE, UH, UNLESS WE SAY SO, UNLESS YOUR DEPARTMENT, UH, SHARES IT WITHIN THE SYSTEM.

OKAY.

NOW, THE POLICY OF THE COUNCIL ON WHAT DATA GETS SHARED, I SUPPOSE, UM, WHAT KIND OF PROTECTIONS ARE THERE AGAINST SOMEBODY HACKING INTO THE SYSTEM AND GETTING THIS DATA?

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IT'S, UH, END-TO-END ENCRYPTED.

UM, SO IT'S THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF, OF SECURITY.

UH, ALL OF THE USES ARE TRACKED, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THERE'S NO PERSONAL IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION, UH, WITHIN THE FLOCK SYSTEM.

SO NO NAMES ASSOCIATED WITH VEHICLES, DMV RECORDS, ET CETERA.

OKAY.

AND I'M ASSUMING THIS IS ENCRYPTED SOMEHOW THAT IT CAN'T JUST EASILY GET INTO THE SYSTEM? CORRECT.

IT'S 2 56 ENCRYPTION, UM, IN THE AWS CLOUD.

SOME OF THE PRIOR CREDIT CARD HACKS, THEY WENT THROUGH A THIRD PARTY VENDOR, FOR INSTANCE, WITH TARGET TO GO THROUGH A THIRD PARTY VENDOR TO GET INTO THE SYSTEM.

IS THIS, THIS IS DIFFERENT IN THE SENSE THAT, UH, IN ORDER TO ACCESS A SYSTEM, UM, AN OFFICER NEEDS HAS AN INDIVIDUAL ID PASSWORD.

UM, ALL OF THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, IN COLLABORATION WITH YOUR IT DEPARTMENT, OBVIOUSLY FOLLOWING THE CITY'S PROCEDURES, UM, IS THE WAY THAT THE SYSTEM WILL WORK FOR ACCESS.

UM, AS FAR AS, UH, AGAIN, THE DATA, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS END-TO-END ENCRYPTED, AND THERE'S NO PERSONAL INFORMATION.

IT'S, UH, IMAGES OF THE BACK OF A VEHICLE.

OKAY.

SOUNDS GOOD.

SO THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.

UH, FACIAL RECOGNITION IS NOT, UH, SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE PART OF THIS PROGRAM? THAT IS CORRECT.

THERE IS NO, NO FACIAL RECOGNITION.

THIS IS, UH, SOLELY IMAGES OF BACK OF THE BACK OF VEHICLES.

AND DOES IT CARRY ANY SOUND RECORDING? THERE IS NO AUDIO DETECTION, UH, WITH THE FALCON CAMERAS.

OKAY.

SO GUNSHOT DETECTION WOULD NOT BE POSSIBLE WITH THIS SYSTEM? CORRECT.

THAT, THAT'S NOT, PART OF THAT IS NOT WHAT, UH, YOU'RE PURCHASING.

OKAY.

UH, WHAT'S YOUR SENSE ON JUST IN GENERAL IN SOCIETY WHERE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY ON CAMERA TODAY? I MEAN, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, WE, SPECIFIC TO LPR MANY TIMES THAT YOU GO INTO A SHOPPING CENTER, YOUR LICENSE PLATE IS SCANNED, UH, BY, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, CAMERAS THERE, IT'LL BE ON YOUR TICKET.

SO WHEN YOU SEE YOUR LICENSE PLATE THERE, THERE IS A LICENSE PLATE READER THERE.

SO IT, OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S A PROLIFERATION OF, OF, UM, UH, CAMERAS OUT THERE.

WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS THAT, UM, LIMITED ACCESS, LIMITED RETENTION, AND USE FOR THE PROPER, UH, USE CASES.

OKAY.

I, I THINK THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTIONS THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD HAVE ON THIS THING.

SO PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST FEATURES IS IT'S FACING, CATCHING THE GOING AWAY, NOT THE COMING TOWARDS YOU.

UH, I THINK THE, CERTAINLY THIS IS A NO BID CONTRACT, SO WE SHOULD LET THE PUBLIC KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S NO BID, IT'S BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A FALCON SYSTEM WITH THE BODY CAMERAS AND AXON AND THINGS LIKE THAT, RIGHT? CORRECT.

SO WE HAVE A, UH, WE ARE THE ONLY VENDOR THAT IS PARTNERED WITH AXON.

AXON IS, UH, YOUR BODY CAMERA PROVIDER.

OUR SYSTEM, UH, ANY OF THE EVIDENCE WILL NOW BE ABLE TO BE DIRECTLY CONNECTED INTO EVIDENCE.COM, UM, WHICH IS THE EVIDENCE SYSTEM USED BY, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, DEPARTMENTS USING AXON.

SO IT SEEMS REASONABLE TO ME THAT EVEN THOUGH, UM, THIS COULD GO OUT TO BID, THAT IT'S SOLE SOURCE JUST SO THAT IT INTEGRATES WITH OUR EXISTING SYSTEMS, WHICH WE KNOW ALREADY HAVE INTEGRITY.

SO I DON'T THINK WE'RE TAKING ANY CHANCES ON THAT.

UH, I THINK THAT ANSWERS ALL OF MY QUESTIONS.

WE ARE ON CAMERA A LOT EVERY DAY, AND I JUST FOUND OUT THE DAY THAT TESLAS CAN, PEOPLE WHO OWN A TESLA CAN RECORD COMING AND GOING.

UH, SO WE'RE, I SUPPOSE WE'RE NOT AWARE OF HOW MANY TIMES THEY'RE ON CAMERA EVERY DAY.

THE DIFFERENCE WHY THIS IS SENSITIVE IS THIS, IS THIS IS THE GOVERNMENT WHO HAS CAMERAS AND RECORDING THESE.

I JUST ASSUME IF I GO TO CHASE BANK TO AN ATM, THEY'RE GONNA RECORD MY IMAGE AT THE ATM.

AND SO WHAT I THINK THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO WOULD SAY, YEAH, BUT THIS IS THE GOVERNMENT.

I THINK YOU'VE ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS, UH, YOU KNOW, IN A CONFIDENCE BUILDING WAY THAT WOULD SAY THIS IS THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO GO.

SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO COME UP AND ANSWER.

THANK YOU, UH, MR. MAYOR, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH, WITH ALL THESE THINGS BEFORE WE VOTE ON IT, I THINK WE'VE FLESHED OUT A LOT OF THE CONCERNS.

YEAH, YOU BROUGHT UP SOME POINTS.

I WANTED TO ASK HIM ANOTHER QUESTION.

QUESTION.

DID ANYBODY ELSE HAVE MORE QUESTIONS? YEAH, GO AHEAD.

MICHELLE FIRST AND THEN GARY.

SO THIS $114 THAT WE'RE SPENDING, IS THAT FOR LIKE ONE CAMERA, UH, 114,000 IN THE SPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY, .

UM, BUT IT IS, WOULD IT, IT WOULD INCLUDE ALL OF THE CAMERAS IN, CORRECT ME IF I'M ON ON THE NUMBER THAT YOU ALL, IT'S 40 CAMERAS.

IT'S 2,500 PER YEAR PER CAMERA.

AND THERE'S AN INSTALLATION FEE THAT INCLUDES THE PERMITTING COSTS THAT WE INCUR, UH, INSTALLATION, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, MAINTENANCE.

RIGHT? SO YOU'RE NOT PURCHASING A CAMERA THAT'LL GO OBSOLETE IN A COUPLE YEARS.

WE OWN THE EQUIPMENT, SO WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT FOR YOU.

SO IT'S ALL ENCOMPASSING THERE.

PLUS THE SOFTWARE, OF COURSE.

SO 40 CAMERAS AND THOSE ARE GONNA BE INSTALLED ON THE VEHICLES OR ON THE BODY CAMERA, OR WHERE'S THAT BE? FIXED? FIXED WHERE? FIXED ON CITY, UH, POLES.

S OH, OKAY.

I MISSED THAT.

AND AS A REMINDER, THIS IS A ONE YEAR PILOT PROGRAM, SO AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES.

THE AGREEMENT DOES HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE TWO YEAR, TWO ADDITIONAL YEAR EXTENSIONS, BUT WE'LL COME BACK AT SOME POINT PRIOR TO THAT, LET THE COUNCIL KNOW THE BENEFITS,

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YEAH, JUST, OKAY.

THANK YOU, MICHELLE.

YOU MAY, YOU'RE PROBABLY NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT.

WE HAVE, SANDAG DOES THE SAME THING WITH ARGIS, AND BASICALLY ON OVERPASSES ALL THROUGHOUT SAN DIEGO, THERE IS A CAMERA THAT, THAT TAKES A PICTURE OF EVERY LICENSE PLATE THAT GOES UNDER THAT OVERPASS, AND THAT'S THROUGHOUT THE, THE COUNTY.

AND THEN IF THERE'S A CRIME COMMITTED IN THE END THAT THE DATA FROM THAT, SO IF WE WANT, WE WANNA PLACE SOMEBODY AND FIND OUT WHERE THEY WERE THAT DAY, WE CAN USE THAT AS PART OF THE OVERALL EVIDENCE GATHERING.

SO I THINK IT'S, AND TO BE FRANK, THERE IS, THERE'S BEEN SOME CONCERN ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE OVERREACH OF GOVERNMENT AND THE, AND THE OVERREACH OF TECHNOLOGY AND PEOPLE'S RIGHT TO PRIVACY AND WHAT THEIR EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY IS.

SO THAT, THAT'S AN ONGOING CONCERN.

BUT DOES THAT, DOES THAT EXPLAIN IT? YEAH, THAT EXPLAINS IT.

AND YOU KNOW, MY FEELING IS IF YOU'RE NOT COMMITTING A CRIME, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT HAVING ALL OF THESE, YOU KNOW, CAMERAS AND GOVERNMENT OVERREACH, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S JUST THE WORLD THAT WE LIVE IN.

AND SO I APPRECIATE YOU ANSWERING THAT, BECAUSE WE CAN'T JUST GO AROUND GOING, OH, WELL, THIS ISN'T 1950 ANYMORE, AND PEOPLE ARE COMMITTING MORE AND MORE CRIMES, AND WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THE TOOLS TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE THOSE CRIMES, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE CO THE, THE COMMUNITY WANTS FROM OUR POLICE OFFICERS IS TO SOLVE THESE CRIMES AND TO FIND THE BAD GUYS.

AND THIS IS JUST ONE MORE TOOL FOR THEM TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

NO PROBLEM.

THANK YOU.

GARY.

UH, PERHAPS SAY, KATHLEEN, GO OVER SOME OF THE HIGH POINTS AND HOW THESE CAMERAS WILL MAKE THE PEOPLE VECA HOMES SAFER.

YEAH.

FOR, FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, OBVIOUSLY LICENSE PLATE READERS ARE A FORCE MULTIPLIER FOR US, 40 CAMERAS IN THE CITY, UH, BEING ABLE TO RELAY US INFORMATION ON VEHICLES THAT ARE USED IN THE COMMISSION OF CRIMES OR VEHICLES THAT ARE STOLEN.

UM, AS I STATED, UM, LIEUTENANT WILL GARRIN WAS THE LEAD ON THIS PROJECT, UH, FROM THE IN, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT SIDE.

SO HE CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS MORE SPECIFIC TO, UH, HOW THE PROGRAM IS REALLY GONNA BENEFIT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO, TWO BIG WAYS, IT'S PROACTIVE AND REACTIVE.

SO PROACTIVE COULD BE, IF A VEHICLE IS STOLEN, IT GETS ENTERED INTO THE SYSTEM AS A STOLEN VEHICLE OR AN AMPER ALERT TYPE OF A THING.

SO WHEN THAT VEHICLE PASSES THROUGH ONE OF THE LPRS THAT AUTOMATICALLY ALERTS THE DEPARTMENT MM-HMM.

UH, TO THAT, UH, TO THAT VEHICLE.

SO AS A REACTIVE WOULD BE, IF A CRIME IS COMMITTED, WE COULD SEARCH THE AREA FOR VEHICLES, UM, THAT WERE CAPTURED ON THE LPR AND USE THAT AS A TOOL FOR INVESTIGATION.

THANK YOU.

I ACTUALLY, THANK, YOU'VE ANSWERED MY QUESTION.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHIEF, UH, MR. MAYOR, I GUESS HAVING BEEN SATISFIED WITH NUMBER EIGHT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO IMPROVE THE ENTIRE CONSENT AGENDA.

SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

MOVE IN A SECOND AND PLEASE VOTE.

THANK YOU, ANGELA.

[ PUBLIC COMMENT: At this time, any person may address a matter within the jurisdiction of the City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the El Cajon Redevelopment Agency that is not on the Agenda. Comments relating to items on today’s docket are to be taken at the time the item is heard. State law prohibits discussion or action on items not on the Agenda; however, Council, Authority and Agency Members may briefly respond to statements or questions. An item may be placed on a future Agenda.]

THAT BRINGS US TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS A MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE EL CAJON REDEVELOP REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

COMMENTS RELATING TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA ALREADY BE TAKEN AT THE TIME THE ITEM IS HEARD.

STATE LAW PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

HOWEVER, CITY COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND TO STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS, AND OF COURSE, AN ITEM MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? WE DO, SIR.

WE HAVE ONE CARD FROM KENNETH KESNER.

HELLO, MR. KESNER.

WELCOME.

HI.

I WAS HERE ABOUT SIX WEEKS AGO, AND I ASKED YOU TO SET IT UP SO I COULD SPEAK FOUR HOURS ABOUT MY LIFE, AND I DID.

AND YOUR POLICE CHIEF NEVER GOT BACK TO ME.

AND BEFORE I GET TOO OFF TRACK, I APPREC ABOUT THE CAMERAS EVERYWHERE I'VE BEEN IN MY LIFE.

I'M 59 NOW, AND EVERYWHERE I'VE BEEN OH, THE CAMERA, WHENEVER I NEEDED THEM.

THE CAMERAS AREN'T WORKING TODAY.

I'VE BEEN AT MOTEL SIX FOR A LONG TIME NOW, AND THEY HAVEN'T HAD CAMERAS.

I'VE NEEDED THEM MANY TIMES.

UH, NOT FOR NOTHING MAJOR, BUT LITTLE THINGS LIKE PEOPLE POUND ON MY DOOR AND RUN, THAT SORT OF THING.

NOW, IF THE CAMERA WAS THERE, I COULD SEE, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE CAMERAS RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

WELL, SO THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THE CAMERAS.

I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO OFF TRACK HERE.

NOW, I ASKED YOUR, I, I ASKED YOUR, YOUR

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I'VE WRITTEN ANOTHER BRIEF LETTER TO HIM, NOT ON, NOT ON THE WHOLE FOUR HOURS OF MY LIFE AND MY CLAIM THAT I'M THE MOST STALKED PERSON ON EARTH.

I KNOW EVERYBODY.

I I GET YOU.

IT'S A, IT'S AN EASY COP OUT.

UM, BUT WHEN THE PERSON BEING STALKED TRIES TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, THEY LOOK FURTHER LIKE A JERK.

AND IT DOESN'T COME OUT RIGHT OR ANYTHING.

BUT THE REALITY IS, WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO ME IN MY LIFE WOULD MAKE DALE LAKI LOOK LIKE A PICNIC.

AND LAST TIME WHEN I CHOKED UP AND LEFT, AFTER ABOUT TWO MINUTES OF SPEAKING TO YOU, IF YOU RECALL, IT WAS BECAUSE I HAD THE BEST THING I CAN CALL IS A QUANTUM LEAP MOMENT.

EVERYTHING CAME AT ME AT ONCE AND I WAS OKAY.

IT'S GONNA BE VERY UNPLEASANT.

BUT IF YOU'RE, IF I DON'T HEAR FROM SUMMER WITHIN A COUPLE OF DAYS, I'VE GOT TWO PHONE NUMBERS ON THERE.

I'M GONNA HAVE TO, TO RELUCTANTLY CHARGE YOUR POLICE CHIEF WITH COMPLACENCY.

I'M NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE, BUT COMPLACENCY IS A BIG DEAL.

IT GOT RAMO EXECUTED FOR NOT TELLING HITLER THAT, UM, THAT THERE WAS A MURDER PLOT AGAINST HIM.

HE KNEW ABOUT IT, BUT HE DIDN'T DO NOTHING.

COMPLACENCY NOT, NOT FORWARDING, UM, FOOT DRAGGING.

OKAY? I'VE HAD THESE THINGS MY WHOLE LIFE.

AND THE NUMBER ONE FRUSTRATION, COINCIDENTALLY, HAS BEEN THE CAMERAS.

EVERY TIME I NEED A CAMERA.

OH, THE CAMERA'S NOT WORKING.

OH, WE CAN ONLY DO THAT FOR THE, NO, WE DON'T LET CIVILIANS, BUT, BUT THE GUY DID THIS TO MY, I CAN'T, NO, WE, WE DON'T SHOW THE CAMERAS, AND THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN UP ON THAT.

SO I GET, I TALK, I GET A COURTESY CALL FROM SUMMER.

I WANT TO MEET WITH HER.

WHAT HAS HAPPENED, TODD, DID ANYBODY HERE WHO'S FAMILIAR WITH DALE AKI EVER THINK SOMEBODY WOULD STAND HERE AND SAY WHAT'S HAPPENED TO THEM WOULD MAKE DALE A KIKI LOOK LIKE NOTHING? THANK YOU FOR COMING, SIR.

ANYMORE.

NO OTHER SPEAKERS, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

THERE ARE NO WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

WE ARE

[9. Seventh Amendment to the FY2019-20 and Third Amendment to the FY2021-22 One Year Action Plans RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council: Opens the public hearing and accepts testimony for the proposed Seventh Amendment to the FY2019-20 and Third Amendment to the FY2021-22 One-Year Action Plans; Closes the Public Hearing; and Adopts the next Resolution, in order, amending the FY 2019-20 and FY 2021-22 One Year Action Plans to: Approve and re-allocate $178,000 in available CDBG-CV funds, including $165,500 to Home Start and $12,500 to Mama's Kitchen, to carry out COVID-19 related public service programs; Adopt the HOME Investment Partnerships Act American Rescue Plan (HOME-ARP) Allocation Plan; and Approve, appropriate and adopt $2,079,808.40 in HOME-ARP funding; and Make the necessary changes to the One Year Action Plans, authorize the City Manager or designee to execute the funding agreements and any other documentation required and submit all required documentation to the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD).]

WE HAVE ONE ITEM TO CONSIDER.

ITEM NINE IS THE SEVENTH AMENDMENT TO THE FISCAL YEAR 19 SLASH 20, AND THIRD AMENDMENT TO THE FISCAL YEAR 21 SLASH 22 1 YEAR ACTION PLANS.

I'LL ASK STAFF TO INTRODUCE THE ITEM.

HI, GET SET UP RIGHT NOW.

SO YOU KNOW, WHEN THE, UH, THE TECHNOLOGY DOESN'T WORK, YOU HAVE TO TELL JOKES.

, I, HOW MANY CHUCKS, SORRY.

NOT READY TODAY.

OKAY, NEXT TIME.

NEXT TIME.

OKAY, GREAT.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS TO SEEK PUBLIC INPUT ON THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE FISCAL YEAR 20 19 21, 22 ANNUAL ACTION PLANS.

THE AMENDMENT OF THE 20 19 20 20 ACTION PLAN IS TO REALLOCATE $178,000 IN CDBG CV FUNDS FROM THE ACQUISITION AND AVAIL REHABILITATION OF A FACILITY FOR PROVISION OF A SHELTER FOR THE HOMELESS TO CURRENT ACTIVE PROJECTS THAT INCLUDES MAMA'S KITCHEN AND HOME.

START NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO, THE OVERVIEW OF THE PROGRAMS FOR MAMA'S KITCHEN IS HOME DELIVERED MEALS, AND THAT IS FOR SPECIFIC POPULATIONS WITH MEDICAL CONDITIONS.

AND THE SECOND, UM, PROJECT IS HOME START, AND THAT'S THE EMERGENCY SHELTER AND SCATTERED SITE PROGRAM.

AND THAT PROVIDES FLEX FUNDS AND RESOURCES TO GET PEOPLE INTO PERMANENT HOUSING.

THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS THE 2122 ACTION PLAN AMENDMENT, AND IT'S FOR OUR, OUR HOME ARP FUNDS THAT ARE RECEIVED FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN.

AND WE'RE HOLDING THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME, AND THE ALLOCATION IS 2.189 MILLION.

JUST TO RECAP FROM THE PREVIOUS PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE HELD ON FEBRUARY 28TH, UH, THESE ARE THE QUALIFYING POPULATIONS THAT WE CAN ASSIST WITH THESE HALLMARK FUNDS AND THROUGH THE PUBLIC PROCESS, UM, COMMUNITY OUTREACH, UM, STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, THE USE OF FUNDS IS BEING RECOMMENDED FOR THE PRODUCTION AND PRESERVATION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND

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AND THIS IS THE ALLOCATIONS PER OUR HALLMARK SPENDING PLAN WITH 85% GOING TOWARDS, UM, A PROJECT AND THE REST GOING TO ADMINISTRATION.

SO THE NEXT STEPS IS TO SUBMIT THE ONE YEAR ACTION PLAN AMENDMENTS TO HUD FOR APPROVAL.

AFTER THAT, WE'LL WILL ENTER INTO AGREEMENTS WITH HOMESTAR AND MAMA'S KITCHEN AND, UM, FINALIZE OUR HOME ART PLAN BASED ON COMMENTS WE'VE SEEN TONIGHT.

UM, WE ASK THAT COUNCIL ADOPT THE RESOLUTIONS, AND THEN ONCE, UM, THIS PROCESS IS DONE, WE'LL SUBMIT THE FINAL AMENDMENTS TO HUD AND THEN RE, UM, SUBMIT A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS, CHANGE OF PARTIES FOR THE HALLMARK FUNDS AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY COMMENTS OR ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE OR COUNSEL.

SURE.

UM, THANK YOU, COUNCIL, YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

UH, ONE, YEAH.

MICHELLE, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE, UM, GO BACK A FEW SLIDES, SHOOT, TO SHOW WHAT YOUR, THE MONEY WAS GOING FOR? YES.

YEAH, THAT WORKS.

UHHUH .

SO DEVELOPMENT OR PRESERVATION OF AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING.

WHAT DOES THAT ENTAIL? THAT ENTAILS, I'M WORKING WITH A DEVELOPER TO SEE IF THEY CAN ACQUIRE EXISTING PARCEL AND MAKE THAT INTO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING THAT'S GONNA SERVE THE QUALIFYING POPULATIONS, OR COULD ALSO ENTAIL NEW CONSTRUCTION OF AN AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT.

AND DO WE HAVE SOMETHING IN, IN MIND OR SOMETHING PLANNED ALREADY? NOT RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

SO WHAT, SO IN THAT REGARDS, WE STILL NEED TO FIND A DEVELOPER, SOMEONE TO EITHER REVAMP AN ALREADY EXISTING BUILDING, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THIS CLEAR IN MY HEAD.

UH, REVAMP AN EXISTING BUILDING OR DO A NEW CONSTRUCTION WITH THIS SPECIFIC PLAN IN MIND.

YES.

THAT'S GOOD.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR COMING.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM? NO.

SPEAKER CARDS OR SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE ANY, UH, FURTHER DISCUSSION OR SOMEBODY LIKE TO PROCEED WITH A MOTION, SIR, THE MOTION FOR TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

EXCUSE ME.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

I'M BACK.

I, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION AS PRESENTED.

AND THE STAFF REPORT IS PUBLISHED SECOND.

ALL RIGHT.

MOVE THE SECOND PLEASE.

VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

BEFORE WE GO ON, I NOTICED WE GOT A LOT OF YOUNGER PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE.

NOT SURPRISED.

THIS IS THE HOT PLACE TO BE .

THIS IS WHERE THE COOL KIDS COME, BUT YOU KNOW, WHERE, WHERE ARE YOU GUYS FROM? AND THEY'RE FORCING YOU TO COME HERE, AREN'T THEY? YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

BUT AFTER THIS, YOU'LL PROBABLY COME EVERY WEEK, RIGHT? YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, WELCOME.

WE'RE GLAD YOU'RE HERE.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

[10. San Diego River Conservancy Board Representative RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council ratifies the appointment of Councilmember Phil Ortiz to represent the City of El Cajon on the San Diego River Conservancy Board of Directors. ]

WE HAVE TWO ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

ITEM 10 IS TO APPOINT A REPRESENTATIVE TO THE SAN DIEGO RIVER CONSERVANCY BOARD, AND I WILL ASK THE CITY MANAGER, AND PLEASE TELL US ABOUT THIS.

THANK YOU, MR. UH, MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

WE ARE PART OF THE SAN DIEGO RIVER WATERSHED, AND, UM, IT'S AN IMPORTANT, UH, THING THAT WE THINK ABOUT A LOT, AND ESPECIALLY DURING RAINY DAYS LIKE TODAY.

AND SO, UM, WE HAVE HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SAN DIEGO RIVER CONSERVANCY FOR QUITE A WHILE, AND THEY'VE ACTUALLY CONTRIBUTED SOME AMAZING GRANT MONEY FOR SOME BIG PROJECTS IN THE CITY, SOME OF WHICH ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AS OF TODAY.

UH, WE THOUGHT IT'D BE SOME VALUE OF HAVING THEM COME AND PRESENT INFORMATION ABOUT THEM.

WE TALK ABOUT THEM A LOT.

UH, THEY GRANT US MONEY, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE REALLY HAVE A, A FACE TO THE NAME.

AT LEAST THE CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T.

SO I THOUGHT IT'D BE GOOD FOR THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC TO HAVE A FACE TO THE NAME.

AND THEN ALSO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT LAST YEAR, UM, OUR REPRESENTATIVE, UH, TONY ATKINS, PRESENTED SB 10 27, WHICH ACTUALLY EXPANDED THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE CONSERVANCY TO INCLUDE A CITY COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE ON THEIR BOARD OF DIRECTOR.

SO, UH, WITH THAT, THE MAYOR HAS MADE AN APPOINTMENT OF PHIL ORTIZ, BUT AFTER THEIR PRESENTATION, THE COUNCIL CAN CONSIDER THAT RATIFICATION.

SO WITH THAT, UH, BEN CLAY, THE CHAIR OF THE, THE BOARD IS HERE, AND JULIA RICHARDS, THE EXECUTIVE OFFICER, IS HERE AS WELL, TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE CONSERVANCY.

HEY, BEN, NICE TO SEE YOU, MAYOR.

GOOD SEEING YOU.

WELCOME.

AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING US DOWN.

MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

UM, BEN CLAY, UM, CHAIR OF THE RIVER CONSERVANCY, APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR.

I'VE BEEN THERE SINCE 2010, GIVE OR TAKE.

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UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO FORMALLY WELCOME THE CITY OF EL CAJON TO OUR BOARD.

UH, IT'S GOOD HAVING YOU THERE BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE DOING AN AWFUL LOT WITH YOUR TEAM HERE IN EL CAJON.

AND, UH, YOU PROBABLY NOTICE ALONG THE RIVER FROM ALL THE WAY FROM THE OCEAN, ALL THE WAY TO, TO JULIAN.

UH, THEN 10 27 EXPANDED, AND A COUPLE OTHER BILLS EXPANDED OUR PURVIEW TO INCLUDE SWEETWATER, OTA AND TIJUANA.

BUT OUR FOCUS RIGHT NOW IS THE, UH, SAN DIEGO RIVER.

IT'S WATERSHED AND ALL OF THOSE WATERS AND THAT, THAT EMPTY, EXCUSE ME, EMPTY INTO THE RIVER.

UM, WE'RE ALSO THERE TO PROTECT THE RIVER AND TALK ABOUT CLEAN WATER AND IN ENHANCING THE SPECIES AND WORKING WITH THE NATIVE AMERICANS.

AND SO OUR, OUR CHARGE IS RATHER BROAD, AND, UH, IT'S A GOOD CHALLENGE.

AND SO WE WELCOME YOU TO JOIN WITH US.

THEY'RE CITY OF SANTIS, A MEMBER, UH, CITY OF SAN DIEGO IS A MEMBER, UH, THE COUNTY.

AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, STATE EMPLOYEES.

AND SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE JULIA RICHARDS, OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, WHO IS THE BRAINS BEHIND THE OPERATION AND PUTS IT ALL TOGETHER AND MAKES IT WORK.

AND SO, BUT THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH FOR HAVING US HERE.

AND WELCOME.

THANK YOU, SIR.

JULIA, WELCOME.

THANK YOU.

MAYOR WELLS GRAHAM, BY CHANCE, DO WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION READY OR NOT? SO I'M PRETTY FLEXIBLE.

WELL, I'M GLAD YOU ARE BECAUSE, UM, I HAVE FAILED TO FORWARD IT ON TO OUR STAFF.

SO I APOLOGIZE.

I WILL GET THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT YOU'LL HAVE TO WING IT.

I APOLOGIZE MS. RICHARDS.

NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL.

MR. MITCHELL.

SO, MY NAME IS JULIA RICHARDS.

I'M EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE SAN DIEGO RIVER CONSERVANCY.

WE ARE AN AGENCY OF THREE PEOPLE.

SO YOU HAVE A THIRD OF THE STAFF WITH YOU TODAY.

GREAT.

AS BEN MENTIONED, WE WERE CREATED TO PRESERVE, RESTORE, AND ENHANCE THE SAN DIEGO RIVER WATERSHED.

AND THAT JUST DOESN'T INCLUDE THE MAIN SAN DIEGO RIVER, BUT THE JURISDICTION STARTS UP IN JULIAN AND THE HEADWATERS, AND GOES THROUGH QUI MA ESTATE PARK AND THE CLEVELAND NATIONAL FORTS BEFORE IT COMES DOWN TO LAKESIDE AND SAN AND EL CAJON LA MESA, AND DOWN TO THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO INTO THE OCEAN.

WE ARE, WE'RE ESTABLISHED RECENTLY IN 2002 BY SENATOR CHRISTINE KEHOE.

WE BECAME A PERMANENT AGENCY IN 2015 BY SENATE PRESENT PRO TEMPORARY TONY ATKINS.

WE HAVE 18 GOVERNING BOARD MEMBERS WITH EL CAJON CITY JOINING US, 16 OF THOSE MEMBERS ARE VOTING MEMBERS.

WE FOLLOW THE SAN DIEGO RIVER CONSERVANCY ACT, WHICH IS A STATUTE ENUMERATED IN THE LAWS OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

OUR MISSION AS AN INDEPENDENT GOVERNMENT AGENCY IS TO RESTORE AND CONSERVE THE SAN DIEGO RIVER WATERSHED.

THIS IS ACCOMPLISHED BY CONSERVING LAND, PROTECTING, AND PROVIDING FOR RECREATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, OPEN SPACE, WILDLIFE SPECIES, AND NATIVE HABITAT.

WE ALSO BALANCE THAT WITH WATER QUALITY AND NATURAL FLOOD CONVEYANCE.

AND AS MY CHAIRMAN MENTIONED, WE ALSO HAVE ESTABLISHED RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE KUMEYAAY NATION AND SEVERAL BANDS WITHIN THEM.

AS I WILL BRIEFLY GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION, I APOLOGIZE TO THAT.

I DIDN'T BRING IT ON A FLASH DRIVE.

WE HAVE SIX PROGRAM AREAS.

THE FIRST PROGRAM WE HAVE IS LAND CONSERVATION THROUGH OUR PARTNERS, LIKE THE CITY OF EL CAJON, THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO, AND NONPROFIT.

WE PROVIDE GRANTS TO THESE ENTITIES TO ACQUIRE AND CONSERVE LAND WITHIN THE WATERSHED.

WE HAVE PROVIDED GRANTS AND CONSERVED OVER 200 ACRES WITHIN OUR 20 YEARS.

OUR SECOND PROGRAM IS RECREATION AND EDUCATION.

AS MR. CLAY MENTIONED, WE ARE LOOKING TO DO A SAN DIEGO RIVER TRAIL THAT CONNECTS JULIAN TOQUE, MAKA STATE PARK TO ELK CAP RESERVOIR, TO SANTEE, TO EL CAJON, EVENTUALLY TO THE PACIFIC OCEAN.

WE AVERAGE ABOUT 10 MILES EVERY 10 YEARS THAT WE PUT IN THROUGH OUR PARTNERS.

WE HAVE SEVERAL GRANT PROGRAMS WITHIN THE CONSERVANCY.

THE DIRECTED GRANT PROGRAM COMBINES ALL OUR PROGRAM AREAS, WHICH ALLOW FOR FUNDING FOR DIFFERENT THINGS.

AS I MENTIONED, WE HAVE LAND CONSERVATION, WE HAVE RECREATION, WE ALSO DO EDUCATION THROUGH OUTREACH EVENTS, MOSTLY THROUGH OUR NONPROFIT PARTNERS.

PROGRAM THREE IS WHOOP, PRESERVE AND RESTORE NATURAL RESOURCES.

WE ACCOMPLISH THAT BY REMOVING INVASIVE PLANTS AND RESTORING TRIBUTARIES TO THE SAN DIEGO RIVER.

WE HAVE WATERSHED WIDE PERMITS, WHICH IS A SERIES OF SIX PERMITS THROUGH LOCAL, STATE, AND FEDERAL AGENCIES THAT WE CAN REMOVE INVASIVES ANYWHERE IN THE WATERSHED.

AS A PARTNER TO THE CONSERVANCY, YOU ARE

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SO THE ONLY COST FOR YOU IS PROJECT IMPLEMENTATION.

WE TAKE CARE OF THE REPORTING REQUIREMENTS AND TALLY ALL THOSE FOR THE AGENCIES.

PROGRAM FOUR IS PROTECT AND PRESERVE CULTURAL AND NAT, EXCUSE ME, CULTURAL AND HISTORICAL RESOURCES.

WE PROVIDED A GRANT TO THE UNA PERERA MUSEUM DOWN AT BALBOA PARK TO REDO THE INTERIOR EXHIBITS TO FOCUS ON THE USES OF THE SAN DIEGO RIVER THROUGHOUT HISTORY.

SO NOT JUST LOOKING BACK 50 YEARS OR A HUNDRED YEARS WHEN THE DAIRIES WERE THERE, BUT EVEN FURTHER BACK, WE PROVIDE GRANTS THROUGH OUR DIRECTED GRANT PROGRAM.

AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE RECEIVE FUNDING FROM THE STATE THROUGH BOND FUNDS AND GENERAL FUND ALLOCATIONS.

OBVIOUSLY, AS YOU'RE ALL AWARE, READING THE NEWSPAPER, THIS IS A LITTLE TOUGH YEAR FOR THE STATE, AND IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, THE BUDGET ISN'T WHAT IT WAS IN THE PAST COUPLE YEARS.

BUT BEING PRUDENT AND EFFICIENT WITH OUR FUNDS, WE ALWAYS MAKE SURE TO SAVE ENOUGH SO WE CAN HAVE GRANT PROGRAMS EVEN DURING THE DOWN YEARS PROGRAM.

FIVE FOR THE SAN DIEGO RIVER CONSERVANCY AS WATER QUALITY AND FLOOD CONVEYANCE.

THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS REDUCE THE RISK OF FLOODING.

ALSO INCLUDE WATER QUALITY ANALYSIS BY NONPROFITS LIKE THE SAN DIEGO RIVER PARK FOUNDATION AND THE SAN DIEGO REGIONAL WATER QUALITY CONTROL BOARD.

WE TRY AND PROVIDE ADDITIONAL FUNDINGS TO MEET THEIR NEEDS TO IMPLEMENT THESE VERY IMPORTANT PROGRAMS. ALSO UNDER WATER QUALITY AS TRASH REMOVAL AND CLEANUP EVENTS, THESE ARE ALSO PROJECTS THAT CAN BE APPLIED FOR THROUGH OUR GRANT PROGRAMS. PROGRAM SIX IS OUTREACH AND CAPACITY.

WE HAVE DONE THAT OVER THE PAST FIVE YEARS BY EXPANDING OUR BOARD MEMBERS FROM 15 TO 18 MEMBERS AND INCLUDING AREAS THAT WERE NOT BROUGHT TO THE TABLE BEFORE.

OUR LAST PROGRAM AREA IS THE SAN DIEGO RIVERS WATERSHED CONSORTIUM PROGRAM.

UH, LIKE MR. CLAY MENTIONED, UH, IT WAS SENATE BILL 1301 IN 2018 THAT ADDED, UM, AUTHORITY FOR US TO WORK IN THE ADDITIONAL WATERSHEDS OF SWEETWATER OAI AND TIJUANA RIVER TO HELP RESTORE THOSE AREAS AND IMPROVE PUBLIC ACCESS.

THOSE ARE THE TWO KEY GOALS WHEN WE LOOK TO THOSE WATERSHEDS OF HOW WE CAN BETTER HELP THEM.

AND, UH, MY LAST COUPLE SLIDES, I'M JUST GONNA HOLD THESE UP, SHOW THE LOGOS OF OUR VARIOUS PARTNERS, WHETHER THEY'RE NONPROFIT GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, OR THE KUMEYAAY NATION.

WE PARTNER WITH EVERYONE.

WE LOOK TO PROVIDE FUNDING TO DISADVANTAGE AND VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES TIME AND TIME AGAIN WHO'VE BEEN LEFT OFF OF THE FUNDING CYCLES.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.

I'VE WORKED WITH YOUR DIFFERENT STAFF MEMBERS AND PUBLIC WORKS AND RESOURCES, AND THEY'RE A GREAT GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS.

VERY PROFESSIONAL.

ONE OF MY FAVORITE GROUPS TO WORK WITH ALONG THE RIVER.

I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT OUR AGENCY, MYSELF, OR ANYTHING THAT WE DO ALONG THE RIVER.

THANKS.

VERY NICE PRESENTATION.

ANY QUESTIONS, STEVE? UH, GRANT, IS THIS THE AGENCY? WE GOT THAT, UH, GRANT MONEY LAST YEAR.

WE, WE'VE RECEIVED SEVERAL GRANTS FROM THEM.

ONE IS THEY'RE HELPING TO FUND THE BROADWAY CREEK RESTORATION PROJECT.

YES.

THEY'RE ALSO HELPING TO FUND A ROUNDABOUT PROJECT.

AND THEY'RE ALSO FUNDING A FIRETRUCK YES.

FIRE ENGINE.

SO YES, THERE WAS A GRANT.

I THINK THE AWARD WAS ABOUT $3 MILLION FOR A FIRETRUCK AND A, UH, TRAINING.

I GOT TO VISIT THE HEARTLAND TRAINING FACILITY LAST WEEK WITH THE FIRE SAFE COUNCIL TO SEE WHAT THAT'S ABOUT.

BUT US FOLKS IN EAST COUNTY, I LIVE HERE TOO.

YOU KNOW, WE NEED ALL THESE RESOURCES TO KEEP OUR PEOPLE TRAINED BECAUSE WE FIGHT THESE FIRES ALL THE TIME, WHETHER IT'S AT PARKS, IN-HOUSE, ON THE EDGE OF THE WILDLAND INNER, YOU KNOW, URBAN INTERFACE.

AND WE ALL NEED TO WORK TOGETHER.

SO WE LOOK AT OURSELVES AS AN AGENCY, AS AN UMBRELLA TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER.

WELL, WE'RE CERTAINLY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR GRANTS BECAUSE A FIRE TRUCK IS, IS HUGE.

AND IT IT'S A TRUCK.

IT'S A LADDER TRUCK.

YES, SIR.

I THINK THE ONE WE HAVE IS AT LEAST 15 YEARS OLD, AND WE'RE JUST KIND OF LIMPING ALONG ON RIGHT BOLTS AND PARTS THAT WE MAKE UP, WE AS WE NEED.

SO YOUR VALUE IS SO APPRECIATED BY THE PEOPLE OF EL CAJON.

THANK YOU.

WELL, WE'RE HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO DO SO, SIR, COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING.

THANK YOU, MR. WELLS.

APPRECIATE IT.

UM, ARE THERE ANY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS? NO SPEAKER CARD, SIR.

OKAY.

UM, SO GRAHAM, WE NEED TO BRING IT BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE APPOINTMENT.

YES.

SO, UM, THANK YOU MR. CLAY, MR. RICHARDS.

APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, SO YEAH, SO THANKS FOR COMING.

SO YEAH, UNDER THE, THE ENABLING OR, OR THE ENABLING, UM, LEGISLATION, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE ON THE BOARD.

UM, MR. MAYOR, YOU, YOU RECOMMENDED THAT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ORTIZ FILL THAT RESPONSIBILITY, AND THAT WOULD JUST NEED THE RATIFICATION OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE THAT OFFICIAL NOW.

SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION

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I'LL SECOND THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

ALL RIGHT, GRAHAM, ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT ONE? NO, SIR.

OKAY.

[11. Interviews for Gillespie Field Development Council Member RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council conducts interviews for the Gillespie Field Development Council.]

THE LAST ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT ON TODAY'S AGENDA, ITEM 11, IS TO HOLD INTERVIEWS FOR THE GILLESPIE FIELD DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL MEMBER.

WE HAVE ONE SEAT AVAILABLE FOR A TERM TO EXPIRE ON THREE EIGHTEEN TWENTY SEVEN.

WHEN THEY CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM.

YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK, WHICH MAY BE FOLLOWED WITH QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL.

AND, UM, BEFORE WE DO THAT, I GOT A NOTE HERE SAYING THAT WE, WE HAD A, UH, WE HAVE A SPEAKER.

YES, SIR.

WE HAVE A SPEAKER.

BARRY BARAK.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.

YEAH.

MR. BARAK.

HI, WELCOME.

AFTERNOON, MAYOR WELLS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M BARRY BARAK, RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF EL CAJON.

I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU BEFORE IN OPPOSITION OF THE WORKING FAMILY ORDINANCE, UM, AND THE NEGATIVE ECONOMIC, UM, IMPACT WAS GONNA HAVE ON THE CITY OF EL CAJON.

I'VE BEEN DEEPLY INVOLVED IN GILLESPIE FIELD FOR MANY DECADES NOW.

I WANT TO RECOMMEND MR. WHEELER NORTH FOR A POSITION ON GILLESPIE FIELD DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL.

MR. NORTH IS AT THE AIRPORT EVERY DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, AND UNDERSTAND GILLESPIE'S ECONOMIC IMPORTANCE TO THE CITY OF EL CAJON.

MR. NORTH HAS HAS SIGNIFICANT EXPERIENCE IN GOVERNMENT, UM, BOARDS AND COMMITTEES, AND IS A COLLEGE PROFESSOR.

HE TAUGHT TECHNICAL COURSES.

HE WILL USE THAT EXPERIENCE TO THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY OF EL CAJON AND GILLESPIE FIELD.

MR. MOORE NORTH IS A CERTIFIED FAA, UM, MECHANIC WITH FAA AIRCRAFT INSPECTOR AUTHORIZATION.

HE HAS SHOWN PROFOUND INTEREST IN AVIATION AND GILLESPIE FIELD.

FOR AS LONG AS I'VE KNOWN HIM, HIS EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE HAS VARIED AND EXTENDS FAR BEYOND AVIATION.

HIS OVERALL KNOWLEDGE IS NEVER FAILS TO IMPRESS ME.

UM, OVER THE YEARS, I'VE WITNESSED HIM SOLVE PROBLEMS WITH A UNIQUE ABILITY TO CLEARLY SEE WHAT OTHERS DON'T.

UM, I ASSURE YOU MR. NORTH WILL LOOK AFTER THE INTEREST OF THE CITY OF EL CAJON AND GILLESPIE FIELD ON THE GILLESPIE FIELD DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, AND PLEASE APPOINT HIM TO THE COUNCIL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR, OKAY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND START WITH, UM, MR. DENNIS BRESLIN, MAYOR WELLS, AND COUNSEL.

MY NAME IS DENNIS BRESLIN.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE GILLESPIE PALACE ASSOCIATION.

AND, UH, JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND IN MY AVIATION CAREER.

I STARTED OUT, UH, AVIATION AS A, UH, PARACHUTIST ACTUALLY FOR THE US FOREST SERVICE.

UH, JUMPING ONTO FOREST FIRES AS A SMOKE JUMPER.

THEN, UH, SEVEN YEARS, UH, US NAVY AS AN ACTIVE DUTY, UH, PILOT DURING THE VIETNAM ERA.

AND, UH, SIX MORE ON THE US NAVY RESERVE RETIREMENT LIEUTENANT COMMANDER.

THEN, UH, 31 YEARS AMERICAN AIRLINES.

I RETIRE AS A BOEING TRIPLE 77 CAPTAIN IN, UH, 2008.

AND FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS, I RAN THE AVIATION PROGRAM AT SAN DIEGO CHRISTIAN COLLEGE.

SO I CAME FROM ALL THAT STUFF TO BE A COLLEGE PROFESSOR ULTIMATELY.

AND I'VE BEEN THE, THE GPA PRESIDENT FOR THREE HOMELESS GOING MY FOURTH YEAR.

UM, I THREW MY NAME IN THE HAT FOR THE GFD C BECAUSE, UM, I'M PRETTY WELL CONNECTED TO THE AIRPORT, UH, A LOT OF, IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

I'M TWO AIRCRAFT THERE AT GLASBY FIELD.

I RAN A HANGAR AND A TIE DOWN SPACE, AND I HAVE A SIMULATOR THERE.

AND THESE ARE ALL FOR, UH, UH, PLUS ONE FLYERS, WHICH IS THE LARGEST AVIATION CLUB IN AMERICA.

BUT HERE'S MY ISSUE WITH THE GF D C AND THE COUNTY AIRPORTS, WHETHER YOU KNOW THIS OR NOT, WE AS PILOTS UNDERSTAND THAT THE AIRPORT'S FALLING APART IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS, AND PRIMARILY THAT'S BECAUSE NO ONE'S INVESTING ANY MONEY.

THAT 70 ACRES THAT'S SITTING OUT, THERE'S NO, AND BARRY DIDN'T MENTION THE 70 ACRES, I'M SORRY, THE WORKING FAMILY ORDINANCE AND HOW THAT DOUBLED AND EVEN TRIPLED THE COST OF LABOR IN SOME OF THESE PLACES.

SO NOW YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, THEY'RE WILLING TO INVEST, BUT THEY WILL NOT AND CANNOT BECAUSE FIRST OF ALL, THEY CAN'T QUALIFY FOR LOANS WITHOUT A GOOD COUNTY LEASE POLICY.

IN EFFECT LEASE POLICIES AND A SHAMBLES.

AND WE'VE BEEN PI UH, PAYING ON THEM FOR YEARS.

THEY GOT TWO LEASEHOLDS, SKY HARBOR AND THE DENTIST LEASEHOLD, WHICH HAVE, UM, GONE VACANT.

AND NOW THE COUNTY'S

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I THINK THAT'S IMPROPER.

AND THE COUNTY SHOULDN'T BE COMPETING AGAINST COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISES RUNNING, UH, BIG FBOS AND MAINTENANCE FACILITIES AND OTHER LEASE HOLDS AT GILLESPIE FIELD.

THAT SHOULD BE A PRIVATE INDUSTRY.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE THESE LEASE HOLDS ARE 30 YEARS AND THEY'RE NOT APPROVING ANY EXTENSIONS, THAT'S, THAT'S THEIR OWN INTERPRETATION, NOT STATE LAW.

YOU CAN'T GET AN EXTENSION ON YOUR LOAN.

SO IF, IF YOU WANNA DO BUILD A 30 MILLION BUILDING, YOU CAN'T AMORTIZE THAT IN A 30 YEARS, YOU HAVE AT LEAST 50 YEARS.

AND NOW THEY HAVE A SUCCESSORSHIP ISSUE AND DOESN'T ALLOW THEM TO BID ON THEIR OWN LEASEHOLDS SO THAT THEY HAVE TO WALK AWAY FROM ALL THEIR OWN PROPERTY.

THAT'S THE MAIN ISSUE WITH GILLESPIE FIELD.

AND, AND I THINK, UH, EL CAJON HURTS BECAUSE OF THAT.

THERE ARE LITERALLY TENS OF MILLIONS, IF NOT MORE, WAITING TO BE INVESTED, AND IT'S GONNA BE SITTING THERE UNTIL THE LEASE POLICIES EXAMINED.

SO THE POSITION THAT I FEEL LIKE THE G F D C IS IN THE POSITION TO MAKE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND REQUIRE COUNTY AIRPORTS TO COMPLY WITH THOSE THINGS.

AND SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME, I'M CERTAINLY AVAILABLE.

LET ME SEE IF THERE'S QUESTIONS.

QUESTIONS.

NOPE.

I'M JUST CURIOUS, DO YOU HAVE ANY INSIGHT INTO HOW TO RECTIFY THIS PROBLEM? WELL, YEAH, IF WE COULD GET THE DIRECTOR OF AIRPORTS TO MEET WITH THIS COUNTY STAKEHOLDERS GALA, THE GILLESPIE AIRPORT LESSEES ASSOCIATION, SIT DOWN AND WORK THIS OUT, WHATEVER THEIR ISSUES ARE WITH, UH, ALLOWING 50 YEAR LEASES WITH SUCCESSORSHIP, UH, I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT THEY ARE, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS HOW CAN THEY LOOK AT GLASBY FIELD, WHICH FUNDS ALL EIGHT COUNTY AIRPORTS FROM THE REVENUE THAT GOES IN THE AIRPORT ENTERPRISE FUND, AND HAS BEEN FLUSHED WITH CASH BECAUSE, UH, BECAUSE THE REVENUE FROM GLASBY FIELD, WELL, THE WORKING FAMILY ORDINANCE PRETTY MUCH PUT A STOP TO THAT, AND WE ALL FOUGHT AGAINST THAT AND LOST, BUT WE MITIGATED THE, THE WORST EFFECTS OF IT.

BUT UNLESS THEY OPEN UP THAT POLICY THAT WILL INVITE INVESTORS TO DON'T, TO, TO PUT MONEY INTO GLASBY FIELD, IT'S NOT GONNA GO ANYWHERE.

SO THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE THING.

SIT OUT AND MEET WITH THESE GUYS, FIND OUT WHAT THEIR OBJECTIONS ARE TO A 50 YEAR AND SUCCESSORSHIP AND EXTENSIONS AND, AND REPLACE WHATEVER THE CURRENT POLICY IS WITH, WITH, WITH ONE THAT WILL WORK.

YOU, YOU BELIEVE THE COUNTY'S OPEN TO THAT KINDA NEGOTIATION? I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK IT'S PUBLIC WORKS.

IT'S REAL PROPERTY.

THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE HOLDING THINGS UP.

THEY'RE THE ONES THAT HAVEN'T REALLY WANTED TO MEET WITH ANYBODY.

SO RATHER THAN FIGHT WITH THEM ALL THE TIME, IF WE HAVE TO GO AROUND THROUGH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SO THEY GET A POLICY PUT IN PLACE, FORCE IT, IF YOU WILL, DOWN FROM THE TOP DOWN, RATHER THAN WORKING WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS ON THE WAY UP.

THAT WOULD BE A, I WOULD RATHER PUT IT THROUGH, PUT IT THIS WAY THROUGH THE GF D C, TO RUN IT THROUGH CHANNELS AND MAKE IT WORK THAT AWAY.

BUT WE NEED TO GET THE COUNTY TO COOPERATE.

WELL, THANK YOU.

MY PLEASURE.

THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE YOU COMING.

AND THEN WHEELER NORTH.

HELLO WHEELER.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, MAYOR WELLS AND, AND FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS WHEELER NORTH.

I'M A RETIRED COMMUNITY COLLEGE PROFESSOR.

OUR PROGRAMS OUT AT SAN DIEGO MIRAMAR COLLEGE, UH, INCLUDE, UH, OUR GRADUATES BECOME PILOTS.

THEY BECOME DRONE PILOTS.

THAT'S OUR NEWEST PROGRAM.

AND OF COURSE, AIRCRAFT MECHANICS, THAT'S THE BIGGEST PART OF OUR OP, OUR OPERATIONS OUT THERE.

UM, I ALSO SPENT ABOUT 20 YEARS WORKING IN CAREER TECHNICAL EDUCATION, UH, LEADERSHIP, REPRESENTING OUR FACULTY THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, PRIMARILY IN SACRAMENTO, AS WELL AS, UH, LOCALLY ON, NOT SO MUCH ON BARGAINING ISSUES, BUT ON ACADEMIC AND PROFESSIONAL ISSUES SUCH AS DETERMINING CURRICULUM AND FACULTY QUALIFICATIONS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

I ALSO SPENT A LOT OF TIME PRESENTING ON LEADERSHIP TOPICS AND ACADEMIC, UH, TOPICS TO OUR FACULTY.