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[ CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Bill Wells]
EVENING SESSION OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING.THE MEETING IS CALLED TO ORDER.
I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR DEPUTY CITY CLERK TO PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER.
KENDRICK IS ABSENT, ALL OTHERS ARE PRESENT.
WOULD YOU ALL STAND WITH ME AND SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND FOLLOWED BY A BRIEF MOMENT OF SILENCE? I PLEDGE YOUR ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO REPUBLIC, WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION WITH LIBERTY.
STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANY AGENDA CHANGES? NO, SIR.
COUNSEL AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS A MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE EL CAJON REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
COMMENTS RELATED TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA ARE TO BE TAKEN AT THE TIME THAT THE ITEM IS HEARD.
STATE LAW PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.
HOWEVER, COUNSEL AUTHORITY AND AGENCY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND TO STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS, AND AN ITEM MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
JEN, DO WE RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS? NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
[100. Interviews for City Commissions RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council conducts interviews for City's Commissions and Committees.]
100 IS FOR INTERVIEWS FOR THE VARIOUS CITY COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES.WHEN YOUR NAME IS CALLED, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.
YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO, UH, SHARE WITH US YOUR QUALIFICATIONS FOR THE POSITION, WHICH OF WHICH YOU'RE APPLYING.
THE COUNCIL MAY ASK FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS IF NECESSARY BEFORE WE CONTINUE.
JEN, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS ITEM? THERE ARE NO SPEAKER CARDS, SIR.
LET'S START THE APPLICANTS FOR GILLESPIE FIELD DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL.
UH, THERE IS ONE VACANCY, WHICH IS SET TO EXPIRE IN JANUARY OF 27.
AND, UH, APPARENTLY, UH, DENNIS BRESLIN HAS WITHDRAWN HIS APPLICATION.
SO THAT LEAVES US THEN WITH ONE APPLICATION, MR. ROBERT DAVIDSON.
SIR, HOW ARE YOU? GREAT, YOUR HONOR.
MAYOR WELLS COUNCIL MEMBERS? I'M ROBERT DAVIDSON, LIVE 1 49 0 7 MONTANA.
UM, I'VE HAD THE HONOR OF BEING ON THE DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL FOR 12 YEARS NOW.
UM, I STARTED GLASSINE 72 WHEN I GOT MY PILOT'S LICENSE THERE.
I'VE BEEN FLYING THERE EVER SINCE.
I, I'M PART OWNER OF TWO DIFFERENT ANGLES.
UM, I'M A CONTRACTOR AND DEVELOPER, SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH CONSTRUCTION AND LAND USE AND LEASES.
UM, I'M ALSO A RESERVE CAPTAIN IN SAN DIEGO SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT BASED AT ASTRID BASE.
I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH ASTRID BASE AT, AT GLASBY.
AND, UH, IT'S ALL, ITS OPERATIONS AND I THINK ALL THESE EXPERIENCES MAKE ME FITTED FOR BEING ON THE DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL.
LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU, STEVE.
UH, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS THE COUNTY LAST YEAR IMPLEMENTED THE WORKING FAMILY ORDINANCE.
ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT? VERY FAMILIAR.
WHAT, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT AND HOW IT AFFECTS GILLESPIE FIELD? UM, THE INITIAL WAS REALLY BAD.
UM, THE DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT OPPOSED TO IT.
ALL THE PILOTS AND ALL THE, UM, GALA, WHICH IS THE GILLESPIE AIRCRAFT LEASE ASSOCIATION.
SO THERE'S 11 LEASE HOLDERS ON GILLESPIE FIELD.
UM, ALL THE PEOPLE UP IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK WE'RE PRETTY MUCH AGAINST IT.
UM, WE THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE REALLY BAD, BUT WHEN IT FINALLY CAME BACK AFTER IT WAS APPROVED AND IT CAME BACK, IT'S A PRETTY MUCH WATERED DOWN VERSION.
IT IS GONNA SLOW DEVELOPMENT CUZ IT REALLY INCRE SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THE COST OF HANGERS.
UM, AVIATION IS NOT ON A HANGAR OR FLY AN AIRPLANE IS NOT A PROFITABLE OPERATION.
MOST PEOPLE DO IT CUZ THEY LOVE THE AIRCRAFT, THEY LOVE THE PEOPLE AND THEY LOVE BEING A GILLE AND BEING PART OF IT.
IT'S NOT A MONEY-MAKING OPERATION.
THIS WILL DEFINITELY SLOW DOWN IMPROVEMENTS AND FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
VERY KNOW KNOWLEDGEABLE ANSWER.
I DON'T HAVE, UM, A QUESTION, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COMMENT WITH REGARD TO, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT.
THE COUNCIL'S RE BEING A RESOURCE TO THE COMMUNITY.
THE LAST, I THINK TWO OR THREE YEARS, WE'VE HAD SOME TRAGEDIES AROUND GILLESPIE FIELD WITH PLANES
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COMING DOWN IN THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.AND I, THERE WAS A BIG OUTCRY AND, AND QUESTIONS SURROUNDING THE COMMUNITY, UM, ABOUT WHY THIS IS HAPPENING, IS IT RELATED THINGS AND THAT, AND, UM, THE, THE, THE DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL BEING, I THINK MAJORITY OF THEM, AVIATORS HAD A, A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC WITH REGARD TO THE N TSB, UH, AND THE F FAA.
AND SO, UM, YOUR WORK THAT YOU DO, IT'S NOT JUST A IDLE COUNCIL THAT YOU SIT ON, YOU GOT, IT'S A WORKING BOARD.
AND SO, UM, GIVEN YOUR, YOUR EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE, UM, AND, AND EXPERIENCE, I, I REALLY WANTED TO THANK YOU CUZ I LEANED ON, UM, THE, THIS BOARD'S KNOWLEDGE TO INFORM THE PUBLIC DURING THOSE THREE CRASHES THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT A FRIVOLOUS JOB.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, FOR THE TIME AND THE EXPERTISE AND, AND THE WORK THAT YOU CAN DO FOR THE COMMUNITY IN, IN THIS SEAT.
UM, UM, JAMES SLY REPRESENTS CITY OF SANTEE.
HE'S ON THE DEVELOPMENT FREEZE COUNTY DEVELOPMENT.
HE'S BEEN A REAL ASSET TO THE BOARD.
UM, THE OTHER TWO MEMBERS HAVE BEEN ON PROBABLY 20 YEARS, AND THEY'RE INVOLVED WITH ALL THE AIRPORTS IN SAN DIEGO AND THEIR UNDERSTANDING AND THEIR BACKGROUND IS AMAZING WHAT THEY CAN BRING.
THERE IS A NEW SEAT COMING UP WITH YOU GUYS FOR THE CITY OF ELCON NEXT MONTH, I BELIEVE.
UM, DWAYNE BARDOS RESIGNING AND MOVING OUTTA STATE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.
SO THERE WILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO FILL IN OUR SEAT FOR EL CAJON AND THERE, I'M SURE THERE'LL BE SOME GOOD CANDIDATES OUT THERE.
UM, ANYBODY ELSE? NO, HE WAS THE ONLY APPLICANT, SO WE JUST NEED A MOTION FOR VOTE.
UH, I, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE MR. DAVIDSON.
MOTION CARRIES BY MOTION CARRIES BY YOUR UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
I THINK THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING THE SWEARING INS AT THE NEXT, UH, ONE OF YOUR MEETINGS SO THAT YOUR COLLEAGUES CAN SEE THAT AND YOUR FAMILY CAN COME.
AND AS A, UH, A SPECIAL GIFT, I, I GIVE YOU DISPENSATION TO, TO LEAVE AND NOT HAVE TO WATCH THE REST, UH, OF THE HEARINGS.
BUT YOU, UH, IT WAS A VERY BIG VIGOROUS CAMPAIGN, SO I'M KIND OF TIRED.
OKAY, THEN IF THEY WERE ONLY GONNA ALL BE THAT EASY
UM, NO APPLICATIONS WERE RECEIVED FOR THE MISSION TRAILS REGIONAL PARK CITIZENS ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
WE'D LIKE TO REMIND THE PUBLIC THAT APPLICATIONS FOR ALL COMMISSIONS AND COMMITTEES ARE RECEIVED ON A CONTINUOUS BASIS AND KEPT ON FILE UNTIL AN OPENING BECOMES AVAILABLE.
APPLICANTS ARE APPLICATIONS ARE AVAILABLE ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, OR YOU CAN CALL THE CITY CLERK FOR AN APPLICATION.
NEXT, WE'LL BE CONSIDERING APPLICANTS FOR THE PERSONNEL COMMISSION.
THERE IS ONE VACANCY FOR A TERM TO EXPIRE IN JANUARY OF 2027.
AND LET'S START WITH MR. CHUCK.
GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, CITY MANAGER AND AND STAFF.
MY NAME IS CHUCK K AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TO SHARE MY QUALIFICATIONS AND MY REASONS FOR WANTING TO SERVE AS A MEMBER OF THE PERSONNEL COMMISSION.
I GREW UP IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.
I SPENT THE LAST TWO YEARS OF HIGH SCHOOL HERE IN EL CAJON, ATTENDING CHRISTIAN HIGH.
SOME OF MY FIRST JOBS WERE HERE.
I FLIPPED BURGERS AT THE LOCAL MCDONALD'S.
I WASHED DISHES AT THE BLACK ANGUS AND MADE PIZZAS AT SQUARE PAN PIZZA.
BEFORE BEGINNING OF MY CAREER IN PUBLIC SAFETY, I ATTENDED AND GRADUATED FROM SAN DIEGO STATE UNIVERSITY.
AND AFTER WORKING A FEW YEARS, I RETURNED TO SCHOOL AND EARNED A MASTER'S DEGREE IN PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION FROM NATIONAL UNIVERSITY.
FOR THE LAST 32 YEARS, I'VE WORKED IN BOTH LARGE AND SMALL POLICE DEPARTMENTS.
I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE AS A LINE LEVEL EMPLOYEE, A FIRST LINE SUPERVISOR, A MANAGER, AND CURRENTLY I SERVE AS A DEPARTMENT HEAD.
MEMBERS OF THE PERSONNEL COMMISSION HAVE SPECIFIC
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DUTIES THAT REQUIRE AN UNDERSTANDING OF ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATIVE PROCESSES AND THE NEED FOR STRICT CONFIDENTIALITY.IN ADDITION, COMMISSION MEMBERS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE CREATION OF NEW POSITIONS AND RECLASSIFICATIONS OF EXISTING ONES.
THIS TYPE OF WORK IS IMPORTANT FOR A CITY THAT WANTS TO STAY COMPETITIVE IN THE JOB MARKET AND HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO DEVELOP POSITIONS TO ATTRACT THE BEST CANDIDATES TO DO THE MOST GOOD FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND OTHER EMPLOYEES.
DURING MY CAREER IN PUBLIC SAFETY, I'VE CONDUCTED INTERNAL INVESTIGATIONS.
INVESTIGATIONS BASED ON CUSTOMER COMPLAINTS, INVESTIGATED ALLEGATIONS FROM ONE EMPLOYEE TO ANOTHER REGARDING GENDER OR RACIAL DISCRIMINATION.
I'VE ALSO BEEN CHARGED WITH CONDUCTING AND LEADING CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS OF EMPLOYEES.
THESE INVESTIGATIONS HAVE INVOLVED EMPLOYEES WORKING UNDER DIFFERENT EMPLOYEE ASSOCIATIONS AND GROUPS.
I HAVE RECOMMENDED DISCIPLINE AND IMPOSED DISCIPLINE, AND IN MY ROLE AS A SKELLY OFFICER AND DEPARTMENT HEAD, I'VE REDUCED AND CHANGED FINDINGS AND DISCIPLINE BASED ON THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED.
I KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THAT THOSE WHO WORK FOR THE CITY OF EL CAJON ARE THE MOST VALUABLE ASSET.
AND THE PERSONNEL COMMISSION PLAYS A VITAL ROLE IN ENSURING THE RULES ARE FOLLOWED AND THE BEST DECISIONS ARE MADE FOR THE RESIDENTS.
AS A RESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOLUNTEER MY TIME AND LE AND LEND MY EXPERTISE TO BENEFIT THE CITY OF EL CAJON.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
YOU SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS? QUESTIONS, UH, MR. K I'LL JUST CALL YOU.
UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY CONFLICTS WITH YOUR CURRENT JOB THAT, LET ME BACK UP.
SOMETIMES, UH, IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, SOME CITIES INVESTIGATE OTHER CITIES TO AVOID A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
WOULD YOU HAVE ANYTHING AT ALL THAT MIGHT NO, I, I WAS VERY, VERY, UH, STRATEGIC, MADE SURE I CHECKED WITH MY CITY MANAGER, OUR CITY CLERK, AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY, AND THEY, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T SEE ANY CONFLICTS WHATSOEVER.
WELL, IF THOSE ARE THE THREE PEOPLE THAT SAY IT'S OKAY, THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S, I MEAN, IN CORONADO'S VERSION, UH, THEN IT'S, UH, OKAY.
SO I'VE, I WORK WITH, UH, CHUCK, CHUCK ON THE, UH, SANDBAG COMMITTEE, PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, AND HE IS A LEADER IN THAT AREA.
SO DEFINITELY A VERY STRONG CANDIDATE.
IT'S GOOD TO KNOW, UH, YOU'RE SERVING THE COMMUNITY OUT IN CORONADO SO MUCH.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT MAKES YOU WANT TO COME TO EL CAJON AND, AND BEYOND THE COMMISSION? I MEAN, YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SERVING THE COMMUNITY IN, IN IT'S SUCH A GREAT CAPACITY AS THE CHIEF OF POLICE OVER THERE.
BUT I'M CURIOUS, WHAT, WHAT BRINGS YOU, WHAT MAKES YOU, I WILL TELL YOU, I'M VERY FORTUNATE TO BE IN CORONADO.
I, I ENJOY MY POSITION AS A POLICE CHIEF.
UM, I DO HAVE THE TIME, AND I DO BELIEVE THAT, UH, THIS WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND SOME THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE CITY OF EL CAJON AS A RESIDENT, AND ALSO CONTRIBUTE THE EXPERTISE I HAVE.
SHALL I HAVE NO QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR APPLYING.
UM, THEY ALREADY ASKED ALL THE GOOD QUESTIONS.
UH, MY QUALIFICATIONS, I HAVE A MPH FROM SAN DIEGO STATE UNIVERSITY, 1972.
AND, UH, MASTERS OF PUBLIC HEALTH FROM YALE UNIVERSITY IN 1974.
I'VE BEEN THE CEO OF, UH, THREE HOSPITALS, TWO IN SAN DIEGO, ONE IN LAS VEGAS.
AND, UH, I RETIRED FROM SAN HEALTH CENTER, WHICH IS NOW SAN HEALTH, UH, AND 2013.
UH, SO I HAVE THE BACKGROUND IN, UH, ALL THE AREAS OF RUNNING A HOSPITAL, FINANCE, UH, HUMAN RESOURCES, PUBLIC RELATIONS, MARKETING, IT, WHAT HAVE YOU.
SO I'VE ENJOYED MY SERVICE ON THE, UH, PERSONNEL COMMISSION AND, UH, WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SERVING AGAIN.
WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED FROM YOUR TIME ON THE PERSONNEL COMMISSION SO FAR? WHAT HAVE I LEARNED? UM, THAT, UH, A CITY SUCH AS EL CAJON HAS A NUMBER OF REGULATIONS, REGULATIONS BY THE STATE AND, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENT FOR A PROCEDURE.
AND MANY THINGS THAT ARE, ARE DISCUSSED THAT THE PERSONNEL COMMISSION RELATE TO POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
AND ONE OF OUR RESPONSIBILITIES IS TO, UH, OUR FIRM THAT THERE'S COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT THE LAW SAYS.
WELL, I GUESS I'LL JUST BE CONSISTENT.
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TERM, WHY, WHY DO YOU WANNA COME BACK AND SERVE A SECOND TERM? WELL, FOR THE SAME REASON I VOLUNTEERED FOR THE FIRST TERM.UH, UH, I'VE BEEN LIVING, UH, EL CAJON FOR 15 YEARS NOW.
I LIVE, UH, IN A COMMUNITY THAT IS WELL MONITORED BY THE POLICE AS WELL, MAINTAINED BY THE, UH, PUBLIC SERVICES.
IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE AND RAISE A FAMILY.
AND I THINK IT'S EVERYONE'S RESPONSIBILITY TO GIVE BACK TO THEIR COMMUNITY.
AND THAT'S WHY I'M, I'M VOLUNTEERING.
ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL TWO GOOD APPLICANTS.
I'LL LEAVE IT WITH, UH, YOU FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, I MEAN, BOTH CANDIDATES HAVE MORE QUALIFICATIONS THAN I HAVE
UM, SO I'M HUMBLED THAT TWO OUTSTANDING INDIVIDUALS WANT TO SERVE IN A VOLUNTARY CAPACITY.
UM, UH, PERSONALLY, I THINK, UH, MR. K WOULD BE A GREAT FIT.
UM, BEING IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, HIS ABILITY TO, UM, TO SEE BOTH SIDES OF AN ISSUE AND INVESTIGATE IT, UM, HAVING AN INDEPENDENT MIND I THINK WOULD BE FANTASTIC FOR THE PERSONNEL COMMISSION.
UM, NOTHING TO TAKE AWAY FROM MR. MARTINEZ.
UM, AND THE TIME HE'S SERVED, UM, I'M SURE HE IS SERVED FANTASTIC AND HIS HEART FOR SERVICE IS THERE.
UM, SO, UM, I GUESS, UM, BRINGING SOMEONE NEW ON AND MR. K WOULD BE MY, MY CHOICE.
UM, BUT WE'LL SEE WHERE THE CONVERSATION GOES.
ANYBODY WANT ELSE, WANNA SAY ANYTHING ELSE? OR SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? TO MAKE A MOTION? OKAY.
MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPOINT MR. K TO THE, I'LL SECOND THAT.
MOVE THAN SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIM UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. MARTINEZ.
UM, YOU'LL BE INFORMED WHEN THE NEXT MEETING IS.
IT'S NOT REGULAR TI TIMES, RIGHT? SO WE WILL LET YOU KNOW AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, SEEING YOU MORE.
NOW WE MOVE ON TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THERE ARE TWO VACANCIES FOR TERMS TO EXPIRE IN JANUARY OF 2027.
UM, LET'S START WITH DEREK CARDINAL.
WE, WE'VE SEEN YOU BEFORE, HAVEN'T WE? YES, SIR.
KEEP, UH, SO GOOD EVENING MAYOR WELLS, COUNSEL AND STAFF.
UH, QUICK OVERVIEW, WHAT YOU'LL BE GETTING WHEN I'M VOTED IN FOR EL CAJONS PLANNING COMMISSION.
MY NAME IS DEREK ELLI, A MARINE TURN REALTOR.
I WAS BORN AND RAISED IN EL CAJON, WHERE I ATTENDED SEAL CANYON HIGH SCHOOL.
AND AFTER HIGH SCHOOL, I ATTENDED A YEAR OF COLLEGE IN LOS ANGELES.
REALIZING MOVING FROM UL TO LA WAS NOT FOR SOMEONE LIKE MYSELF.
UM, I QUICKLY DECIDED TO FOLLOW MY DREAM OF SERVING MY COUNTRY AND ALIST IN THE MARINE CORPS IN 2007.
I WAS IN A TIGHT-KNIT COMMUNITY OF TANKS WHERE I SERVED FOR 12 YEARS UNTIL I WAS DIVESTED IN IN LATE 2020 BY THE COMMANDANT OF THE MARINE CORPS.
HONORABLY SERVED FOR 14 YEARS IN 11 MONTHS, BUT HEY, WHO'S COUNTING RIGHT? UM, WHILE SERVING, I DEPLOYED ONE TIME, WHICH WAS IN 2019, OR I SERVED IN MANY ROLES, UM, FROM PLATOON SERGEANT TO COMPANY, FIRST SERGEANT, AND THEN I FINISHED UP MY LAST TWO YEARS AS A CURRENT PLANNING OPERATIONS CHIEF WITH FIRST CIVIL AFFAIRS GROUP.
I MOVED TO EL CAJON IN 2013 WHEN I MARRIED MY AMAZING WIFE, BRITTANY.
I NOW HAVE FOUR BEAUTIFUL CHILDREN, A SEVEN, THREE, AND ONE YEAR OLD DAUGHTER, AND A FIVE YEAR OLD SON.
I FIRST READ ABOUT THIS POSITION TWO YEARS AGO, UM, IN THE NEWSPAPER WHEN THERE WAS A VACANT SEAT THAT SAT VACANT FOR A WHILE.
AND I THOUGHT, WHAT BETTER WAY TO GR WHAT BETTER WAY TO SERVE MY COMMUNITY? SINCE I'VE ALREADY SERVED MY COUNTRY AS A MARINE, AS A CIVILIAN, I'M A REALTOR AND HAVE BEEN FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS.
I CURRENTLY, I AM CURRENTLY ON MY FATHER-IN-LAW'S TEAM, BOB KELLY AT
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BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY.I LOVE WORKING WITH PEOPLE ON THEIR JOURNEY OF PURCHASING THE RIGHT HOME FOR THEM AND THEIR FAMILY IN FINDING PEOPLE THEIR HOMES IN OUR BELOVED COMMUNITY OF EL CAJON.
I ALSO HEAR ABOUT HOW THE COMMUNITY COULD BE DEVELOPED IN BETTER WAYS TO BETTER THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE.
I HAVE VALUE IN THE SEAT OF PLANNING COMMISSION BY USING THE SKILLS THAT I'VE OBTAINED IN THE MARINES AS A REALTOR, AS A HUSBAND AND A FATHER.
I ALSO ATTEND FOOTHILLS COMMUNITY CHURCH, WHICH AS YOU KNOW, IS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
I'VE ALSO GOTTEN INVOLVED, UH, FOR FUNDRAISER FUNDRAISING FOR YOUTH VENTURES, AS WELL AS TURNING POINT USA UH, FAITH CHAPTER.
I ALSO SIT ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY'S FACILITY FINANCING OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, OR BETTER KNOWN AS PROPO, UH, OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
I'VE ALSO BECOME MORE INVOLVED WITH THE EAST COUNTY CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND AM A GRADUATE OF THE LEADERSHIP PROGRAM, BEST CLASS OF 2022.
THEREFORE, AS I SIT ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I WOULD PUT THE COMMUNITY FIRST AND WOULD LOVE TO ADVISE YOU OF MAKING THE BEST DECISIONS.
I LOOK FORWARD TO EARNING MY SPOT IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION BY PER PRESERVING THE INTEGRITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHILE MAINTAINING EACH INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS, UM, OWNER, OH, EACH INDIVIDUAL'S OWNER PROPERTY RIGHTS, THUS SERVING MY COMMUNITY THE BEST THAT I CAN.
OKAY, I'M SHARE SOME QUESTIONS.
UH, DEREK, THANKS FOR APPLYING.
UH, SO AS PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, SOMETIMES YOU'RE KIND OF A, AN ARBITER, A JUDGE MM-HMM.
SO IN OUR, UH, ALCOHOL PROGRAM, I THINK THE FIRST TIME THAT THEY SELL TO A MINOR, IT'S, UH, UH, FIRST LEVEL OFFENSE.
DO YOU MEAN THE TOBACCO, UH, TELLING TOBACCO TO MINORS? SURE.
AND THEN TWO, TWO VIOLATIONS IS $2,500 FINE IN 60 DAY PROHIBITION SUSPENSION AND THREE VIOLATIONS IS, YOU'RE DONE? NO, NO, NO.
90 DAYS OR FOUR MONTHS, AND ANOTHER 2,500.
AND, AND IS FOUR YOU'RE DONE? OR DOES IT GO TO A HEARING, THEN YOU'RE DONE, THEN YOU'RE DONE? OR DOES IT GO TO A HEARING? DOES NOT GO TO A HEARING.
THEY CAN APPEAL, BUT THERE'S A, YOU ARE PROHIBITED.
SO SOMEBODY APPEALS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT, UH, YOU YANK MY ALCO MY TOBACCO, UH, LICENSE TO SELL BECAUSE FOUR TIMES I'VE SOLD AND THAT THE PERSON COMES TO YOU.
THIS IS A QUESTION FOR ALL APPLICANTS, BY THE WAY.
EQUALLY, THE PERSON COMES TO YOU AND SAYS, YOU KNOW WHAT? I, I'VE JUST HAD HR PROBLEMS. I, IT'S HARD FINDING PEOPLE IN THIS ECONOMY.
IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, I'VE HAD A LOT OF TURNOVER AND, AND TRAINING, AND I CAN'T BE THERE FOR EVERYONE, FOR EVERY TRANSACTION.
I, YOU KNOW, I REALLY NEED THIS FROM MY FAMILY, AND THIS IS HOW WE MAKE A LIVING.
AND I'M REALLY SORRY THAT IT HAPPENED FOUR TIMES.
UH, BUT I, I REALLY NEED YOU TO HELP ME OUT AND NOT HAVE MY PERMIT YANKED.
WHAT'S GONNA GO THROUGH YOUR MIND? WELL,
OBVIOUSLY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE OWNERSHIP OF THE MARINES, UM, HERE YOU'RE CIVILIAN AND OWNERSHIP OF YOUR OWN.
BUT, UM, I'M ALWAYS, I'M A BIG FAN OF THREE STRIKES.
IF YOU CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT THE FIRST TWO TIMES, SOMETHING'S WRONG.
UM, THAT BEING SAID, THE WAY IT IS NOW, IT'S, I CAN'T NECESSARILY SAY WHAT I WOULD DO RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE I, I HAVEN'T COME ACROSS THAT SITUATION.
BUT, UM, WOULD YOU ASK ANY QUESTIONS? FOUR TIMES? I MEAN, IS, IS, IS THE, IS THE PERSON SELLING IT ARE, ARE THEY JUST OBLIVIOUS? DO THEY NOT CARE, CARE ABOUT THEIR JOB? UM, YOU KNOW, THEY GOTTA DO A BETTER JOB AT, AT TEACHING AND GETTING THAT THROUGH TO 'EM.
IF YOU DID SOMETHING FOUR TIMES WRONG, UM, FOR THE CITY, UH, ARE, ARE YOU GONNA BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE? SO I WOULD, I WOULD PROBABLY GO WITH WHAT THE, WHAT IS, UH, IN PLACE NOW AND REVOKE THAT THEIR THE RIGHT TO SELL TOBACCO.
JUST WANT TO GET A SENSE,
YOU GOTTA PUSH A BUTTON YES OR NO, AND RIGHT.
AND MY MINE WOULD, AT THAT PROBABLY POINT IN TIME WOULD PROBABLY BE NO.
OPPORTUNITY TO
UM, MY QUESTION WOULD BE HOW DO YOU BALANCE, UM, OR YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS? LET'S SAY, UH, UH, YOU'RE GONNA BE MAKING DECISIONS FOR COMMUNITIES,
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UM, AND LET'S SAY SOMEONE WANTS TO BUILD SOMETHING THAT THE, THE NEIGHBORS DON'T LIKE.UM, IT'S AESTHETICALLY THEY DON'T, IT DOESN'T FIT WITH THE COMMUNITY OR, OR WHATEVER IT IS.
HOW DO YOU BALANCE OR TALK, WALK ME THROUGH YOUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS WITH HOW YOU BALANCE, UM, THE RIGHTS OF THE PROPERTY OWNER VERSUS THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
HOW, HOW, HOW, WALK ME THROUGH YOUR PROCESS.
WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS IN MAKING A DECISION? AND LIKE COUNCILMAN GOBEL SAID, PRESSING A BUTTON AND SAYING MM-HMM.
SO OBVIOUSLY EACH SITUATION IS GONNA BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
UM, EACH SITUATION'S GONNA BE TAKEN, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENTLY.
UM, JUST LIKE EACH, EACH ONE OF MY KIDS, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY GET DISCIPLINED DIFFERENT WAYS JUST BECAUSE THEY, YOU KNOW, BUT GOING BACK TO PROPERTY RIGHTS, UM, FREEDOM, UH, OF PROPERTY OWNERS AND, AND, AND, AND DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
SO, AGAIN, GOING BACK, IT, IT'S GONNA BE SITUATION PENDING.
UM, ONE THING I THINK OF IS, IS UL AND THE 15 STORY HOTEL, CONDO OR HOTEL CASINO THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO BUILD IN UL FOR THE LONGEST TIME IT WAS GONNA BE AN EYESORE.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S NO OTHER, NOTHING LIKE IT IN, IN EAST COUNTY, UM, OTHER THAN THE COURTHOUSE.
UM, SO YOU WANNA DO WHAT'S BEST FOR, YOU KNOW, THAT PROPERTY OWNER AND, AND YOU'RE NOT, NOT STEPPING ALONG ALL OVER HIS FREEDOMS. BUT THEN AGAIN, YOU WANNA DO WHAT'S, WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY TOO.
SO PUTTING A 15 STORY, YOU KNOW, APARTMENT BUILDING IN GRANITE HILLS ISN'T GONNA BE THE BEST THING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO, AGAIN, SITUATION PENDING, BUT THAT WOULD BE MY PROCESS.
AND, AND FIGURING IT ALL OUT IS ONE, WE DON'T WANNA STEP ALL OVER THE PROPERTY OWNER'S RIGHTS, BUT WE ALSO WANNA LOOK AT THE COMMUNITY AND SEE IF WE CAN MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF THE COMMUNITY.
UM, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE A PROPERTY OWNER THAT HAD A WALKWAY AND EVERYBODY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS USED THAT WALKWAY FOR 30 YEARS, AND NOBODY HAD A PROBLEM WITH IT, BUT NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN THE PROPERTY OWNER WANTS THAT PROPERTY BACK.
SO NOW YOU HAVE THE COMMUNITY ON ONE SIDE THAT'S SAYING, WELL, WE'VE BEEN CUTTING THROUGH HERE FOR 30 YEARS, MY KIDS HAVE DONE IT, MY GRANDPA DID IT, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
AND THEN YOU HAVE ON THE OTHER SIDE, YOU HAVE THE PROPERTY AND IT'S LIKE, I, I PAY PROPERTY TAXES AND I WANT MY PROPERTY BACK.
MAYBE THEY'RE GOING TO EXTEND THEIR FENCE LINE, WHATEVER THEY'RE GOING TO DO.
UM, COMPROMISE
HOW WOULD YOU APPROACH THAT TYPE OF SITUATION? UH, LET'S SEE.
SO AGAIN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO FIGHT YOU, YOU KNOW, EVEN YOU AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU'RE NOT GONNA MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY AND YOU NEVER WILL MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.
AND IF YOU ARE, SOMETHING'S WRONG,
SO, UM, THAT BEING SAID, TRY AND FIND A COMPROMISE.
MAYBE WE FIND ANOTHER, A WALKWAY AROUND IT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, A MILE OUT OF THE WAY.
AND, UH, I WOULD AT THAT POINT IN TIME KIND OF LEAN ON OTHERS WHO MIGHT HAVE HAD SIMILAR SITUATIONS.
UM, BUT YEAH, IT'S, IT'S HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY FINDING COMPROMISE AND HOPEFULLY LEVEL HEADS PREVAIL.
AND YOU KNOW, THAT THERE ARE GONNA BE DECISIONS THAT IF YOU WERE TO BE ON THIS PLANNING COMMISSION MM-HMM.
AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA GO ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND THEY'RE GONNA BLAST YOU.
UM, ARE YOU READY FOR THAT? OH, ABSOLUTELY.
UM, I WAS JUST WI I'D WATCHED THE, UH, LAST PLANNING COMMISSION WHERE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EAST COUNTY, UH, MORTUARY AND DOING A CREMATORIUM RIGHT THERE BY HOME DEPOT.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA MAKE A TON OF PEOPLE HAPPY.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S VACANT LAND THAT'S NOT BRINGING ANYTHING IN FOR THE COMMUNITY.
YOU'RE NOT BRINGING IN TAX DOLLARS, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND, UH, I, I LOOKED AT THE RENDERINGS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, AND IT'S, YOU'RE NOT GONNA NOTICE.
SO YOU'RE ONE SIDE, YOU'RE GONNA MAKE PEOPLE UPSET, BUT THE OTHER SIDE, YOU'RE DOING WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.
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THICK SKIN, YOU KNOW, AS, AS A REALTOR TOO, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOCK ON DOORS, I GET THE DOOR SLAMMED IN MY FACE.JUST GOTTA KEEP YOUR HEAD UP AND KEEP MOVING ON.
JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY, WHERE DID, WHERE DID YOU, UH, DEPLOY JOE? UH, WE WENT TO JORDAN KUWAIT.
UM, SPENT A LITTLE TIME IN TURKEY, SO, BUT MAINLY IN JORDAN ADVISING THE JORDANIAN MARINES, SO I LITERALLY WOULD LOOK OUT MY WINDOW AND TO THE SOUTH OF ME ABOUT 500 KILOMETERS WAS SAUDI ARABIA.
UH, NORTH, UH, WEST WAS, UH, ISRAEL.
AND THEN, YEAH, THE SURROUNDING DESERT.
A LITTLE HOTTER THAN SOMETIME.
I HEAR YOU LAUGHING ABOUT THAT FROM CORONADO.
IT HAS BEEN MY PLEASURE AND PRIVILEGE TO SERVE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR 12 YEARS NOW.
I, HOW LONG WOULD LI I, I KNOW I HAD TO LOOK AT MY SON.
YOU WERE TWO WHEN I STARTED THIS.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE SERVING.
I BELIEVE THAT IN THE 12 YEARS I HAVE BEGUN TO BUILD A LEGACY FOR US IN EL CAJON.
WE HAVE VOIDED MAKING THESE BIG APARTMENT COMPLEXES, AND INSTEAD OUR HOUSING ELEMENT REFLECTS OUR LIFESTYLE.
SINGLE FAMILY HOMES WITH SMALLER AND SMALLER YARDS, I'M AFRAID.
BUT, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE LAND THAT THE COUNTY IS WILLING TO GIVE UP.
AND SO WE HAVE BEEN DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB.
THE CITY'S STAFF HAS BEEN DOING AN AMAZING JOB RESEARCHING OPTIONS FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, AND THAT'S A LEGACY WE'D LIKE TO PRESERVE.
I THINK WE'VE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB ON THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT AS WELL.
SO OUR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL ASPECTS ARE VIBRANT.
WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO DO IS START BUILDING ON OUR CULTURAL HERITAGE IN ELCON.
WE DON'T HAVE A LOT, I MEAN, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF HISTORIC HOMES THAT ARE NUMBERED, BUT NOT NECESSARILY PRESERVED AT THIS POINT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF OUR RANCHES ANYMORE.
THE RANCHES HAVE BEEN SUBDIVIDED.
BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HELP US TO DEVELOP SOME OF OUR CULTURAL HERITAGE AS WELL IN THE CITY OF ALCON.
AND I WANT TO CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN OUR CITY AS A PLACE WHERE I'M COMFORTABLE WITH MY KIDS GOING TO THE PARK, PLAYING, GOING TO PARKWAY PLAZA, HOPI, HOPING THAT OUR MALL STAYS INTACT AS A REGIONAL CENTER.
IT'S ONE OF THE FEW THAT DOESN'T HAVE HALF THE STORES CLOSED IN SAN DIEGO.
AND AS LONG AS YOU SEE FIT TO ALLOW ME TO CONTINUE SERVING, I INTEND TO CONTINUE SERVING.
UH, SO FLAVORED TOBACCO'S NOW OUTLAWED IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, BUT THERE WAS A TIME WHEN IT WASN'T MM-HMM.
SO WHAT, AND AND THAT'S A FAIR THING.
WHAT, UM, WHAT ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT ASK IN THAT SITUATION? WHEN I WAS RESEARCHING THE PROPOSITION, I ASKED MYSELF THIS QUESTION, WHO WANTS FLAVORED TOBACCO? WHAT'S THE TARGET AUDIENCE? DO PEOPLE WHO REALLY ENJOY TOBACCO WANT TO LAYER ON ALL THESE OTHER FLAVORS, FRUIT FLAVORS, CANDY FLAVORS? I WOULD BE ASKING THE APPLICANT, WHAT'S, I KNOW WE DON'T DEAL WITH MONEY, BUT WHAT'S THE MOTIVATION HERE? WHAT MARKET ARE YOU TRYING TO GET TO CORNER ON? BECAUSE THERE'S NO OBVIOUS MARKET IN MY EXPERIENCE OR TRAINING FOR THESE FLAVORED TOBACCO PRODUCTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ARE ELECTRONIC STYLE AND DISGUISED OTHER THAN STUDENTS.
SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO, THEY'D HAVE TO HAVE A REALLY GOOD JUSTIFICATION FOR HAVING ANY FLAVORED TOBACCO PRODUCTS.
UH, BUT THEY ARE HEAVILY REGULATED AND NOW OUTLAWED.
I ASKED YOU A DIFFERENT QUESTION OUT OF FAIRNESS TO DEREK BECAUSE HIS WAS COLD, SO I HAD TO MAKE ONE COLD FOR YOU AS WELL.
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PAUL, THANK YOU FOR SERVING MY PLEASURE.UM, WE SERVED FOR A SHORT TIME ON THE COMMISSION TOGETHER.
UM, I'LL ASK, UM, YOU THE SAME QUESTION THAT I ASKED TO DEREK.
WALK ME THROUGH YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS AND IN THE CONSTANT BATTLE BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER, AND HOW DO, HOW DO YOU AND YOUR EXPERIENCE, UM, MANAGE AND, AND MAKE A DECISION IN THOSE SITUATIONS? WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF THOSE DECISIONS COME BEFORE US.
UM, ONE NOTABLY WAS TRES LOMAS.
THERE WAS A DEVELOPER WHO WANTED TO PUT IN A COUPLE HOMES, WELL, A COUPLE HOMES WOULD'VE BEEN OKAY.
HE WOULD'VE FIT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT HE WANTED TO PUT IN A LOT OF HOMES IN A SINGLE FAMILY STREET.
AND AS MUCH AS I WANTED HIM AS A PROPERTY OWNER TO BE ABLE TO DO WHAT HE WANTED WITH THE PROPERTY, IT HAD TO FIT THE SURROUNDING AREA.
AND WE WENT BACK AND FORTH WITH HIM ABOUT HOW MANY HOMES HE WAS WILLING TO TRIM DOWN TO FIT IN THE AREA, AND HE WASN'T WILLING TO GIVE UP.
BUT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY WAS LIKE, YOU CAN'T DO THAT IN OUR STREET.
UM, THE, THE MORE RECENT ONE OVER IN, UH, OAKDALE, THE PROPERTY OWNER DIDN'T WANT TO FINISH A STREET THROUGH.
I WAS NOT AWARE THAT THIS WAS ON THE CITY PLANS AS A FINISHED STREET.
NONE OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS WERE AWARE THAT IT WAS MARKED OUT AS A CITY STREET.
AND SO I KIND OF LEANED IN THE DIRECTION THAT IF THERE WAS ANY WAY POSSIBLE TO PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, TO NOT DEVELOP THE FULL THROUGHWAY AND INSTEAD PUT IN A CUL-DE-SAC.
EVEN THOUGH, UNFORTUNATELY FOR THE APPLICANT, HE HAD ALREADY SPENT ALL THE MONEY ON THE SURVEYS AND FINDING OUT HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO PUT IN PLANS FOR THIS STREET, WE ADVISED HIM THAT HE SHOULD APPEAL TO YOU GUYS AND SAY, HEY, IS IT POSSIBLE WE COULD DO THIS ANOTHER WAY? UNFORTUNATELY, THAT APPEAL DID NOT WORK BECAUSE IT'S A CITY PLAN AND IT'S BEEN ON THE BOOKS.
IT'S JUST THAT NOBODY HAS UNDERSTOOD THIS IS A STREET, IT JUST HASN'T BEEN BUILT.
AND THE CITY DOESN'T BUILD STREETS.
THAT'S SOMETHING I DIDN'T KNOW WHEN I STARTED ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I THOUGHT CITIES BUILT STREETS AND THEN OWNERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING BEHIND THE SIDEWALK.
BUT NO, I HAD TO REBUILD MY SIDEWALK WHEN I ADDED ONTO MY HOUSE.
THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BUILD ALL THE STREETS AND SIDEWALKS.
THERE HAS TO BE SOME OWNER RESPONSIBILITY THERE.
AND SO I THINK WHERE I LAST SAW HIM THERE, GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO THE STRAIGHT THROUGH STREET.
AND I FEEL BAD FOR THE APPLICANT BECAUSE HE HAD BUILT, BOUGHT THE PROPERTY THINKING THIS IS A NICE, SAFE, SECLUDED AREA FOR MY KIDS TO GROW UP IN.
BUT THAT'S ONE OF THOSE WHERE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE DO HAVE TO FOLLOW THE LAWS AND GUIDELINES THAT ARE IN THE PLANNING, UH, ZONING ORDINANCE.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHAPE THEM.
AND WHEN WE AS A BOARD FEEL THAT THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH THOSE RULES, WE CAN APPEAL TO THE, THE CITY, UH, PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND SAY, I THINK THIS IS WRONG.
CAN WE FIX THIS? SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE TO HAVE EMPATHY FOR OUR NEIGHBORS TO BUILD COMMUNITY AND SEE OWNERS' RIGHTS NOT AS TRUMPING EVERYTHING, BUT FOR THE IMPORTANCE THAT THEY HOLD.
IF WE HAVE NO PROPERTY RIGHTS, THEN WHY SHOULD WE OWN PROPERTY? AND AT THE SAME TIME, WE NEED TO BE PART OF A COMMUNITY.
SO SOMETIMES THE COMMUNITY'S INTEREST IS SERVED BY DENYING AN APPLICANT, AND SOMETIMES THE COMMUNITY'S INTEREST IS SERVED BY ALLOWING AN APPLICANT TO PROCEED.
IN THE CASE OF THE CREMATORIUM, I'VE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR A CREMATORIUM IN EAST COUNTY FOR A WHILE.
I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET HERE WAS A CREMATORIUM.
IT WAS ONLY LATER I DISCOVERED THAT ALL THE STEAM I SAW PROCESSING WAS FROM THE DRY CLEANERS BEHIND THEM.
SO I WAS LIKE, WHY ARE WE SO AGAINST THIS IN THE CITY OF EL CAJON? THIS IS SOMETHING WE AS A CITY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP AND BECOME A REGIONAL CENTER FOR.
I MEAN, DO WE WANT TO BE KNOWN AS THE VALLEY OF DEAD BODIES? WE ARE THE COFFIN AFTER ALL,
BUT, UH, I THINK THAT BY APPROVING THE CREMATORIUM, WE WILL HAVE INSTIGATED SOME NEW BUSINESS AND SOME NEW VISITORS TO OUR CITY WHO WILL COME IN AND SEE ALL THE TREES IN OUR CITY AND GO, WOW, THIS IS ACTUALLY PRETTIER
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THAN I REMEMBER IT.I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME I SAW LC, IT WAS IN THE NINETIES.
THE CITY OF ALCON HAD A LAYER OF SMOG.
AND I HAD ONLY EVER SEEN SMOG IN LA BEFORE I CAME IN.
I TOLD GOD I WOULD NEVER LIVE HERE, NEVER TELL GOD WHAT YOU'LL NEVER DO.
I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 24 YEARS NOW.
I AM VERY PLEASED WITH THE WAY THE CITY HAS IMPROVED AND CHANGED.
AND I INTEND TO SEE THAT CONTINUE TO CHANGE AND OUR CITY TO BECOME VIBRANT AGAIN.
HI, MS. EDISON, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD, SIR.
MAYOR WELLS, THE CITY COUNCIL.
I WANNA THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING MY APPLICATION FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I WAS RAISED HERE IN EL CAJON.
I WENT TO BOSTONIAN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, GREENFIELD JUNIOR HIGH, GRANITE HILLS HIGH SCHOOL.
AND THEN FROM THERE, I WENT TO GROSSMONT COLLEGE.
AFTER THAT, I OPENED UP MY OWN SMALL BUSINESS HERE IN EAST COUNTY.
I LEARNED THAT YOU DON'T KNOW, KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW FROM ZONING ORDINANCES, THE NOISE COMPLAINTS TO PARKING.
I LEARNED IT'S NOT EXACTLY EASY, BUT I MADE IT THROUGH.
WE HAD THE BUS, THE SMALL BUSINESS FOR APPROXIMATELY EIGHT YEARS.
I CURRENTLY WORK FOR THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY PROBATION DEPARTMENT.
I AM ON THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY PROBATION OFFICER'S ASSOCIATION'S BOARD.
I AM IN CHARGE OF RUNNING THEIR MONTHLY MEETINGS.
I AM WELL AWARE OF THE DECORUM ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.
UM, MY GOAL IS RESPECT ON MY BOARD.
I LIKE TO HEAR EVERYBODY, EXCUSE ME, MY VOICE IS GONE.
UH, I LIKE TO HEAR EVERYBODY'S IDEAS.
I WANT TO HEAR THE WHOLE ARGUMENT BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION, BEFORE WE EVEN GO TO, UH, A MOTION.
UH, I LOVE, I LOVE DISCUSSION, BUT OF COURSE, WE ALL KNOW DISCUSSION HAS TO COME TO AN END AT SOME POINT.
I ALSO CURRENTLY SERVE ON THE RETIREMENT MEDICAL TRUST FOR THE, UH, THE PEACE OFFICERS HERE IN SAN DIEGO.
I AM ALSO A DIRECTOR AT LARGE FOR PO ACT, WHICH IS A STATE COALITION.
THEY ALSO FOLLOW THE ROBBERS RULES OF ORDER.
UH, WE MEET WITH STATE LEGISLATORS AND WE, UH, MEET WITH EACH OTHER, KEEP COHESIVENESS.
I'M ALSO A PART, UH, MEMBER OF SCOO, WHICH IS ALSO A STATE COALITION.
UH, WE MEET WITH, UH, LOCAL AGENCIES AND WE MEET WITH PEOPLE IN GENERAL FROM THE STATE TO, TO KEEP COHESIVENESS AND TO KEEP RELEVANCY.
UH, VERY FAMILIAR WITH ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER, THE WHY THAT I WANT TO DO THIS.
UH, I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE, JUST LIKE SOME OF YOU WERE.
I ACTUALLY, MY FIRST PAPER ROUTE WAS HERE IN, UH, EL CAJON
AND THEN IT WENT ON TO, UH, WELL THAT, BUT THAT'S GONE NOW.
BUT I ALSO WORKED AT MCDONALD'S DOWN THERE OVER ON, UH, MAIN STREET.
SO I'VE, I'VE HAD A CHANCE TO WATCH EL CAJON, UH, MANIFEST INTO SOMETHING THAT IT'S NEW.
WE USED TO BE, UH, CITY OF A LOT OF APARTMENTS.
WE'RE TRYING TO MOVE AWAY FROM THAT.
I HAVE THE ENERGY TO DO THIS, AND IT'S SOMETHING I WANT TO DO.
I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO ENGAGE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
I WASN'T SURE HOW, AND I THINK AS SOMEBODY ELSE HAS ONCE SAID THAT WE HAD SOME, UH, UH, APPOINTMENTS THAT WERE OPEN FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I WAS, WHY NOT? SO I WANTED TO PUT MY NAME IN THE HAT, AND I THINK I HAVE THE ENERGY TO DO IT.
AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
UH, STEVE, I, I'M JUST GOING, WOW.
UM, LET'S SAY THERE IS A BUSINESS THAT WANTS TO GET A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN A PART OF A CITY THAT YOU'RE NOT SURE THAT'S A GREAT FIT FOR THEIR TYPE OF BUSINESS.
THEY'RE MANUFACTURING WIDGETS, AND YOU'RE NOT SURE THAT WIDGETS IS A GREAT FIT FOR THAT LOCATION.
WHAT KIND OF QUESTIONS? WHAT'S YOU'RE THINKING? I WOULD START WITH THE ZONING ORDINANCES.
FIRST, I, I, I COME FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT, SO I START WITH THE LAW FIRST.
WHAT ARE WE ALLOWED TO DO THERE? IF THE ZONING ORDINANCE ALLOWS THAT PARTICULAR BUSINESS TO BE THERE AND IT DOESN'T FIT THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE COMMUNITY, NEXT THING YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT FOR ME IS COMPROMISE.
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THE LAND BETWEEN YES AND NO IS THE WORLD OF MAYBE.AND I THINK THAT THERE IS A LOT TO BE SAID FOR A COMPROMISE.
IF THERE IS NO COMPROMISE, AS A COMMISSIONER, YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO, YOU MUST GO BY THE LAW.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE LAW HERE.
THAT'S WHAT WE GO BY IN THE END.
AT SOME POINT, A DECISION HAS TO MAKE TO BE MADE AS YOU GUYS ARE, ARE WELL AWARE.
THAT'S WHY YOU SIT IN THAT CHAIR.
YOU HAVE TO MAKE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS.
AND SOMETIMES A BUSINESS, ALTHOUGH IT'S A GOOD IDEA, IT DOES NOT FIT THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT IT'S, THAT IT'S IN.
OKAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR THINKING.
I'VE ASKED ALL THE APPLICANTS TO YOU AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, UM, WITH REGARD TO PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS VERSUS THE COMMUNITY AND, AND SOMEONE'S HOME THAT THEY'RE BUILDING, UM, THAT THEY'RE INVESTING THEIR OWN MONEY IN, UM, VERSUS THE, UH, THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
WALK ME THROUGH YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS ON HOW YOU RESOLVE THAT, THAT CONFLICT OR, OR SOME OF THE QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT ASK.
I'M A FIRM BELIEVER IN PRIVATE PROPERTY'S PRIVATE PROPERTY.
YOU PAY YOUR PROPERTY TAXES, YOU PAY THE MORTGAGE, IT IS YOUR PROPERTY.
HOWEVER, THAT DOES NOT MAKE YOU KING OF THE KINGDOM.
THAT DOESN'T MAKE YOU KING OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IF YOU ARE WANTING TO DO SOMETHING ON YOUR PROPERTY THAT DOES NOT FIT THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE COMMUNITY, COME TO THE COMMUNITY.
LIKE I SAID, THE WORLD OF COMPROMISE, THE LAND BETWEEN YES AND NO IS THE WORLD OF, MAYBE AGAIN, THAT IS WHY THE COMMISSION IS HERE.
AT SOME POINT, THE HARD DECISION JUST HAS TO BE MADE.
AND SOMETIMES IT'S NOT THE POPULAR DECISION.
23 YEARS IN LAW ENFORCEMENT,
YOU, YOU, YOU'VE HEARD IT ALL, BUT IN THE END, THIS IS SOMETHING YOU ASKED TO DO.
SO YOU SIT IN THAT CHAIR AND YOU TAKE IT, BUT YOU STAND ON YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR MORALS, YOUR DECISIONS, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE LAW.
I THINK THAT BEING ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, DECIDE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
UH, CERTAIN BUSINESSES THAT COME IN, UM, ALLOWING, I WON'T SAY, UM, ALCOHOL LICENSE BECAUSE THOSE ARE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN.
AND, AND, UM, THOSE CAN BE BOUGHT AND SOLD, I SUPPOSE, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND.
BUT THERE ARE CERTAIN BUSINESSES THAT I THINK WE ARE OVERRUN WITH.
THIS IS JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION.
I'M NOT GONNA PICK ON ANY ONE INDUSTRY, BUT I THINK THAT THERE ARE, WE'RE OVERRUN WITH CERTAIN ONES.
SO WHERE DO YOU SEE EL CAJON? HOW DO YOU SEE EL CAJON, UM, PROGRESSING TOWARDS THE FUTURE? I MEAN, NATIONAL CITY, LET'S TAKE NATIONAL CITY FOR EXAMPLE.
WE ALL KNOW ANY OF US THAT HAVE GROWN UP HERE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY ALL KNOW NATIONAL CITY AS YOU KNOW, THE MILE OF CARS.
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT LOTS OF CARS, UH, CAR DEALERSHIPS.
UM, MIRA MESA HAS, ITS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF INDUSTRY UP THERE.
MIRAMAR HAS A LOT OF INDUSTRY UP THERE.
CERTAIN AREAS OF THE COUNTY HAVE HA HAVE CONCENTRATIONS OF INDUSTRY.
SOME COULD BE BARS, SOME COULD BE RESTAURANTS, UM, KOREAN STORES, CAR DEALERSHIPS.
WHERE DO YOU SEE EL CAJON GOING? HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO, AND I'M, BECAUSE YOUR, YOUR BACKGROUND IS NOT IN REAL ESTATE OR, UM, ARCHITECTURE OR ANYTHING, WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE EL CAJON KIND OF MOVE TOWARDS? YOU'RE RIGHT.
HOWEVER, I'VE LIVED IN EL CAJON MY WHOLE LIFE, AND I HAVE SEEN WHERE THE COMMUNITY USED TO BE AND WHERE IT'S GOING, AND I LOVE IT.
UH, SOMETHING MY DAD WOULD TELL ME WOULD, IF THERE'S AN APARTMENT COMPLEX SON, AND I DON'T MEAN TO PICK ON ONE PARTICULAR AS YOU, JUST AS A EXAMPLE, IF THERE'S AN APARTMENT COMPLEX SUN, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LIQUOR STORE THERE.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOOD BUSINESS.
SOMETIMES YOU, AGAIN, YOU, YOU FOLLOW THE, YOU FOLLOW THE LAW, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF YOU CAN DO IT, SHOULD YOU DO IT? IS THERE A COMPROMISE? IS THERE A BETTER PLACE FOR IT? WE SHOULD NOT BE OVERRUN WITH ANY PARTICULAR BUSINESS BECAUSE IT SETS A BAD PRECEDENT.
BECAUSE WE ARE LOOKING TO BE, WE'RE LOOKING TO BE DIFFERENT.
IN EL CAJON, WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, EL CAJON ISN'T THE EL CAJON THAT WE SEE TODAY,
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RIGHT? I THINK WE'VE COME SO FAR BECAUSE WE'RE SHOWING DIVERSITY.AND TO ME, IF WE'RE SHOWING DIVERSITY, WE'RE NOT POINTING OUT ONE, LIKE ALCOHOL, FOR EXAMPLE, OR A BAR AND OR ANYTHING.
WE'RE NOT POINTING OUT ONE PARTICULAR STORE OR FIELD SAYING, YOU ARE BAD.
WE'RE JUST SAYING WE HAVE ENOUGH HERE.
AGAIN, IT BECOMES DIFFICULT IF THE LAW PERMITS IT.
RIGHT? THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE IN COMPROMISE.
WE DON'T WANT TO DO THIS, BUT ARE YOU WILLING TO DO THIS? AND I THINK A LOT OF TIMES, UH, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU, YOU STAY IN THAT LAND OF POSSIBILITY, EVEN REALTORS, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE THEIR MINDSET IN ONE PARTICULAR PLACE FOR THEIR OWN FINANCIAL REASONS, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIND SOMETHING BETTER FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
AND I THINK ULTIMATELY THAT'S WHAT ALL OF US ARE TRYING TO DO.
YEAH, I HAVE SEEN EL CAJON CHANGE A LOT.
I REMEMBER WHEN WE USED TO HAVE LAMB CHEVROLET AND NEXT DOOR WAS THE PUSSYCAT THEATER,
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN ALCOHOL GROW FROM, YOU KNOW, UH, A LOT OF BIKER BARS AND, UM, I DON'T REMEMBER STRIP JOINTS, BUT WE HAD THE, THE TRIPLE X THEATER, AND IT WAS EL CAJON THOUGH, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS HOMETOWN.
UM, WE'RE BRINGING IN A LOT OF NEW BUSINESS.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SO THANK YOU ON YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT.
AND JUST ONE OTHER NOTE, I WOULD LIKE TO, TO ADD TO THAT, WITH EVERY BUSINESS BROUGHT IN, I COME FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT.
IS IT SAFE ALSO? IS IT SAFE? BECAUSE EVERY BUSINESS BRINGS IN A CERTAIN CHARACTERISTICS.
AND FOR EL CAJON, WE'VE COME SO FAR, LET'S KEEP GOING TO WHERE WE WORK.
I DELIVERED PAPERS TO SEE WHERE IT'S COME IS.
WOW, YOU GUYS ARE DOING A FANTASTIC JOB.
AND I DO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING.
AND MS. FALLAS, ELIZABETH FALLAS, I SEE YOU'VE BROKEN YOURSELF ON VACATION.
I HEAR HER ON MY BIRTHDAY, MY BIRTHDAY GIFT TO MYSELF.
UM, I HAVE, UH, BEEN ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR JUST UNDER TWO YEARS.
I FILLED THE LAST VACANCY THAT HAD COME UP, AND I REALLY HAVE ENJOYED MY OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE COMMUNITY IN THAT, IN A NEW WAY, UM, ON THE COMMISSION, AND LEARNED A LOT THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
UM, AND PRIOR TO THAT, I HAD BEEN PART OF THE EAST COUNTY HOMELESS TASK FORCE, UH, CHAIRING THE YOUTH SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE AND BEING PART OF THE SHELTER AND HOUSING, UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, GETTING TO PARTAKE IN THE, UM, POINT IN TIME COUNTS, UM, WHERE I ACTUALLY DID INTERVIEWS WITH THE HOMELESS, UM, AND HELPING, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL THE, THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT, THAT WENT THROUGH THERE.
UM, BUT IT REALLY HAS BEEN A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, AND GETTING TO KNOW MORE OF THE STAFF, UM, UH, AND WORKING WITH THE STAFF AND SEEING THE PROCESS OF HOW SOMETHING GOES FROM SOMEONE'S IDEA IN THEIR MIND, WHETHER IT'S A BUSINESS THAT WANTS TO COME OR SOMEONE IN BUILDING, UM, OR, OR PLANNING AN ACTIVITY THAT THEY NEED A, UH, YOU KNOW, A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
AND, AND SEEING THAT PROCESS THROUGH AND HOW IT IT COMES AND, UM, AND SEEING BOTH SIDES OF IT, YOU KNOW, THE PERSON THAT'S PRESENTING, AND THEN MAYBE THE PUBLIC THAT MIGHT BE EITHER SPEAKING FOR, UH, OR AGAINST SOMETHING THAT COMES IN.
UM, I WORK AT RADI CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL, UM, AS A, UH, NURSE PRACTITIONER.
AND AS PART OF MY, UH, MY DEGREE, I HAVE A DOCTORAL DEGREE FROM U S D, IS THAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT CREATING PROJECTS, UM, STARTING WITH AN IDEA OF SEEING A NEED, STARTING WITH AN IDEA, READING THROUGH RESEARCH PAPERS, WHICH IS VERY SIMILAR TO READING THROUGH SOME OF THESE PLANS.
I DO SEE HOW THAT HAS HELPED ME IN, UM, COMING THROUGH SOME OF THE PRESENTATIONS.
I FEEL LIKE I BRING THE UNIQUE IDEA OF SAFETY AND HEALTH AND WELLNESS TO OUR, YOU KNOW, TO THE, TO THE PROJECTS THAT ARE PRESENTED, BECAUSE I'M NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING AT IT THROUGH A REAL ESTATE LENS OR A BUSINESS OWNER LENS, BUT A RESIDENT I'VE LIVED HERE OVER 20 YEARS, UM, BUT ALSO FOR THE SAFETY OF THE, THE CHILDREN AND EVEN THE ADULTS THAT I CARE FOR.
UM, AND I'VE BEEN REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT WE'VE INCREASED A LOT OF OUR HEALTHCARE OFFERINGS HERE IN SAN, IN, UM, EL CAJON.
SOMEDAY WE'LL HAVE A HOSPITAL HERE, BUT, UM, I, I REALLY HAVE, I REALLY HAVE ENJOYED IT, AND IT'S BEEN A, IT'S REALLY BEEN A GREAT HONOR, UM, TO SERVE WITH MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS ON THE COMMISSION HERE.
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YOU, ELIZABETH, FIRST SERVING.AND THANK YOU FOR COMING EVEN WITH A BROKEN WING AS YOU DESCRIBED IT,
UM, I'LL, I'LL ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTION THAT I ASKED EVERYBODY.
I'M CURIOUS WHAT YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS IS, WHAT YOUR WORLDVIEW IS AND WHAT YOUR VISION IS FOR, UM, BALANCING AND TRYING TO DETERMINE, YOU KNOW, THE AGE OLD QUESTION, PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS VERSUS, UM, THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.
WELL, WE HAVE HAD SOME INTERESTING, UM, DECISIONS THIS PAST SINCE THE TIME THAT I'VE BEEN ON WHERE IT'S SOMEONE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WANTED TO DO SOMETHING AND THE PROPERTY OWNERS EITHER BEING FOR OR AGAINST.
AND IT, IT IS ALWAYS A BALANCING ACT.
IT IS FIRST LOOKING TO SEE WHAT DOES ZONING SAY, BECAUSE IF ZONING SAYS YOU CAN'T DO IT, IT KIND OF MAKES, I'LL SAY IT SORT OF MAKES THE DECISION EASY FOR US BECAUSE WE CAN'T GO AGAINST THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ZONING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT IF THE ZONING IS THERE, THEN WE DO TRY TO LISTEN TO EVERYBODY'S SIDE.
AND SOMETIMES THERE HAVE BEEN COMPROMISES THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED BY COMMISSIONERS SAYING, WELL, WHAT IF YOU DID THIS MADE THIS MINOR CHANGE AND THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD THE, WOULD THE, UH, OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE PRESENTING, MAYBE WOULD THEY BE, UH, AMENABLE TO THAT? ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK OF RECENTLY, WELL, I GUESS IT WAS LAST JULY, WAS ACTUALLY THE FIREWORKS, UM, THAT SHADOW MOUNTAIN WAS GOING TO HAVE.
UM, AND IT WAS A GREAT CELEBRATION.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LOCKED UP FOR TWO YEARS AND THEY WERE GONNA GET TO DO THIS, HAVE THIS GREAT, UH, CELEBRATION FOR TWO NIGHTS FOR FIREWORKS.
THAT WAS RIGHT AROUND 4TH OF JULY, BUT NOT ON 4TH OF JULY.
SO SOME OF THE SURROUNDING, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS WERE CONCERNED THAT HAVE HORSES AND ANIMALS THAT ARE VERY JUMPY AND, AND THESE ARE ANIMALS THAT YOU CAN'T JUST PUT 'EM IN YOUR HOUSE AND TURN ON SOME LOUD MUSIC TO BLOCK IT OUT.
SO THEY, THEY OF COURSE, SHARED THEIR CONCERNS, BUT OF COURSE, SHADOW MOUNTAIN ALSO HAD SOME COMPELLING REASONS AS TO WHY THEY WANTED TO DO THIS FOR THE COMMUNITY.
I THINK GIVEN MORE TIME, SHADOW MOUNTAIN COULD HAVE WOULD'VE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS SO THAT THERE MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN AS MUCH NOISE, BUT THEY WERE UNDER SOME TIME CONSTRAINTS AS EVERYTHING GOT BROUGHT TO THE COMMISSION.
BUT AT LEAST THEY GOT SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT IF THEY CHOSE TO DO THIS AGAIN IN THE FUTURE.
UM, YOU KNOW, BUT WE DID GO AHEAD INSIDE WITH THE, WITH THE ORGANIZATION BECAUSE THEY WERE WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS TO HAVE THIS.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, I, I THINK EVERYBODY HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WHAT THEY WANTED TO SHARE.
UH, I KNOW THAT, UM, THE, THERE WAS A, THE SITUATION WITH A PROPERTY OWNER THAT HAD THE THOROUGHFARE, UM, THAT HAD BEEN THERE FOREVER, AND THEY DID WANNA DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITH THEIR PROPERTY.
AND THAT WAS HARD BECAUSE EVERYONE CAME AND CAME AND SAID, WELL, BUT WE'VE BEEN WALKING ON YOUR, BASICALLY SAYING, WE'VE BEEN WALKING ON YOUR YARD FOR ALL THESE YEARS.
OUR KIDS GO TO SCHOOL THIS WAY.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO SAY TO, THAT WAS A GREAT BENEFIT THAT YOU HAD, BUT IT IS THIS OTHER PERSON'S PROPERTY.
IS THERE SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT CAN BE DONE? YOU KNOW, UM, IT WASN'T, I THINK THAT HAD TO COME DOWN TO THE PROPERTY OWNER MAKING THE DECISION, NOT US TELLING THE PROPERTY OWNER, WELL, YOU HAVE TO LET THIS PEOP THESE PEOPLE CROSS YOUR PROPERTY.
SO I THINK WE PUT IT IN A WAY THAT WE, WE HELP EVEN THE APPLICANTS OR THE PUBLIC COME TO THEIR DECISIONS AS WELL BY HELPING THEM UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
BECAUSE BEFORE I WAS ON THE COMMISSION, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS I DIDN'T REALIZE, UM, WERE PART OF THE PROCESS.
THE PROPERTY THAT MR. CERCO BROUGHT UP, UM, WHERE THERE WAS THE THOROUGHFARE, I WOULD'VE THOUGHT, WELL, WHY WOULD THEY MAKE THEM DO THIS? AND TRULY PROB PART OF THAT, UM, DISCLOSURE WAS ON THE SELLER.
SO HE COULD HAVE GONE BACK TO THE SELLER.
THEY SHOULD HAVE DISCLOSED IT, BUT IT WAS THERE IN THE, IN THE, IN THE, UM, PLAN FOR THE CITY.
SO IT DOES KIND OF OPEN MY EYES, WELL, IF I'M GOING TO DO SOMETHING, I SHOULD DO MY DUE DILIGENCE AND MAKE SURE I KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR THE CITY TOO.
SO, I MEAN, IT, IT'S REALLY KIND OF AN EYE-OPENING EXPERIENCE SOMETIMES.
WE'RE EDUCATING AS MUCH AS WE ARE TRYING TO, UM, BE COMPASSIONATE WITH SOME, WITH, UH, PEOPLE.
UH, I'M JUST GONNA GIVE YOU ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO ASK ME A QUESTION.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE WE HAD WAS ALDI.
WE WERE ALL VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE ALDI COMING INTO PARKWAY PLAZA, ANOTHER GROCERY STORE.
UM, AND THEY THOUGHT THEY HAD THE SOLUTION BY HAVING A LIQUOR LICENSE IN A DIFFERENT AREA THAT THEY COULD BRING DOWN.
WELL, WE FOUND OUT THROUGH STAFF AND UM, THROUGH THIS, THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THAT WE COULDN'T JUST, YOU COULDN'T USE THAT PARTICULAR LICENSE.
SO A LOT OF US HAD THE DISCUSSION, BUT, YOU KNOW, GROCERY STORE IS DIFFERENT THAN A LIQUOR STORE.
THAT'S NOT THEIR PREDOMINANT BUSINESS.
UM, CAN WE LOOK AT MAYBE, MAYBE TREATING PARKWAY PLAZA AS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AREA THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, REGULAR STREETS AND WE'RE ABLE TO BRING, SO WE HAD TO VOTE AGAINST ALL THESE AT THE TIME, BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO BRING IT FORWARD, FORWARD TO HAVE THAT AREA DESIGNATED AS A REGIONAL CENTER TO CHANGE SO THAT THEY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO HAVE A LIQUOR LICENSE THERE.
SO THAT, I MEAN, THEY, THE GROCERY STORE WOULD'VE STILL BEEN THERE, BUT THEN NOW THEY CAN HAVE SOME BEERS AND WINES THAT PEOPLE COULD PURCHASE WHEN THEY'RE PURCHASING THEIR DINNER.
THIS WAS NOT ABOUT SOMEBODY GOING IN TO BUY THEIR COLT 45 IN A PAPER BAG.
SO I THINK THAT WE'VE BROUGHT FORWARD DIFFERENT, UH, GREAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE TO THINK ABOUT IT, MAKE THEIR OWN CHANGES AND ALTERATIONS WHEN NEEDED,
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BUT ALSO FOLLOW THE RULES.AND, UM, AND REALLY, WE'VE HAD SOME GREAT PROJECTS IN THE LAST ALMOST TWO YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN ON THE, ON THE COMMISSION.
ANYBODY ELSE NEED TO ASK QUESTIONS? I, SHE ANSWERED MINE.
IT WAS, WHAT DIFFICULT DECISION HAVE YOU HAD IN THE PAST THAT, AND YOU EXPLAINED IT ALL.
COUNCIL MEMBERS LEAVE WITH YOU.
UH, RARELY HAVE I SEEN FOUR PEOPLE AS QUALIFIED FOR TWO POSITIONS AS WE HAVE HERE.
OKAY,
UM, THIS IS THE BEST PART OF THE JOB, I THINK, BECAUSE I GET TO SEE, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WANT TO SERVE IT, UM, JUST LIKE I DO.
AND, AND, UM, THEY HAVE THE HEART OF A VOLUNTEER, WHICH I, WHICH IS WHAT I LOOK FOR, UM, MAINLY.
AND, UM, I DON'T THINK WE CAN MAKE A BAD DECISION.
SO THAT BEING SAID, I HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION
UM, THERE'S A COUPLE PEOPLE THAT STOOD OUT TO ME, UM, AND ONE OF 'EM WAS PAUL.
UM, PAUL HAS A VI, ONE OF THE NOTES THAT I SAW WAS, UH, ONE OF THE NOTES THAT I WROTE DOWN THAT I SAW THAT PAUL, UM, STATED IN HIS RESPONSES THAT HE HAS, HE HAS A VISION FOR THE CITY, UM, AND HE HAS AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE CITY'S ASSETS.
UM, AND THAT WAS, UH, VERY PROFOUND.
AND I DON'T THINK, UH, MANY PEOPLE CAN, UM, MANY PEOPLE HAVE THAT VISION FOR THE CITY I, NEW IDEAS ON WHERE TO GUIDE THE CITY.
UM, AND HIS DECISIONS, I THINK ARE GONNA POUR THROUGH THAT.
AND ALSO, UM, HE HAS AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE CITY'S ASSETS.
UM, DOING HIS OWN INDEPENDENT RESEARCH I THINK WAS OUTSTANDING.
UM, I'VE HEARD FROM STAFF THAT HE'S A OUTSTANDING COMMISSIONER.
WHEN I WAS ON COMMISSION, HE WAS OUTSTANDING.
UM, AND, UH, HE ALSO MENTIONED SOMETHING THAT I LIKED WAS, UM, HE COULD CHANGE.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT RIGHT IN OUR ZONING OR IN THE LAW, WE CAN MOVE TO CHANGE IT, UM, IF IT MAKES SENSE.
UM, I, I LOVE THAT PERSPECTIVE.
UM, AND THE LAST ONE, THE LAST POINT WAS HE, HE'S INTERESTED IN BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND HAVING HIS, THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
THE OTHER PERSON THAT STOOD OUT TO ME WAS DERRICK.
UM, MAINLY BECAUSE YOU, HE'S APPLIED FOR THIS, I THINK AT LEAST ONE OTHER TIME.
UM, HE'S CURRENTLY SERVING ON, UM, THE OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, UM, ALONG WITH PATRICK IN THE BACK, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THAT'S NOT A STANDING ROOM ONLY TYPE OF COMMITTEE,
SO HE'S FATEFULLY SERVING, UM, DOING THE HARD WORK, UM, THAT NO ONE WANTS TO DO.
AND I THINK THAT DESERVES TO BE REWARDED ONCE IN A WHILE.
UM, AND HE ALSO SAID, LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS.
PART OF HIS, UM, PART OF HIS ANSWERS WERE BEING A GOOD NEIGHBOR, UM, NOT MAKING A JUDGMENT BEFORE THE FACTS.
WHEN I WENT TO THE COMMISSION, UM, COMMISSIONER'S ACADEMY THROUGH THE LEAGUE OF CITIES, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STUCK WITH ME, THEY SAID A GOOD COMMISSIONER DOESN'T, UH, MAKE ANY DECISIONS BEFORE HE IS HEARD ALL THE FACTS.
AND, UM, I THINK DEREK INSTINCTIVELY, INSTINCTIVELY KNOWS THAT.
THE OTHER THING THAT IMPRESSED ME IS THAT HE'S ALREADY WATCHING PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS, UM, AND NO ONE'S ASKING HIM TO DO THAT.
HE'S, HE'S WATCHING THEM OR ATTENDING THEM OR, OR, YOU KNOW, BEF AFTER HE PUTS HIS KIDS TO BED, I GUESS HE'S WATCHING THEM IN ALL HIS FREE TIME.
SO THOSE TWO PEOPLE STOOD OUT TO ME FOR THOSE REASONS NOT TO TAKE AWAY FROM, UM, ELIZABETH OR OR SHANNON.
UM, BUT THOSE TWO PEOPLE STOOD OUT TO ME.
UM, I COULD PUT ALL FOUR OF THESE IN A STACK AND PICK TWO AND WIN.
UH, PAUL HAS BEEN A, A JUST A TREMENDOUS, UH, CONSISTENT VOICE OF ADVOCACY FOR BUILDING AN EL CAJON.
AND, UH, BOY, YOU, YOU CAN JUST COUNT ON HIM TO UNDERSTAND, EVALUATE, QUESTION, UH, GOOD JUDGMENT, UH, SOLID.
UH, DEREK IS, HAS PASSION FOR THIS CITY THAT FEW PEOPLE HAVE, AND HE, HE, HE'S VERY INVOLVED IN THE CHAMBER, UH, VOLUNTEERS WITH THE OVERSIGHT.
YOU CERTAINLY WANT SOMEBODY ON YOUR COMMISSION
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THAT HAS PASSION.VALEZ IS, IS YOU JUST LISTEN TO HER, EXPLAIN THINGS IN A VERY ELOQUENT WAY.
AND BOY, AM I GLAD YOU'RE ON THE COMMISSION.
UH, MR. EDISON, YOUR RESUME IS SO IMPRESSIVE AND, AND YOUR LEADERSHIP IS VERY STRONG.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, PAK IS A STATEWIDE ORGANIZATION AND TO HAVE RESPONSIBILITY AND LEADERSHIP THERE AND YOUR EXPLANATION OF JUST HOW, HOW, UH, YOU THINK AND QUESTION, UH, IS STRONG, AND TO BE A PROBATION DEPARTMENT, THAT'S GOTTA BE ONE OF THE HARDEST JOBS ON THE PLANET.
YOU ARE NOT, YOU'RE NOT WORKING IN CUSTOMER SERVICE.
YOU'RE
IT'S ONE OF THE
SO YOU'VE GOT MY, MY UTMOST RESPECT THAT MAN.
YOU'VE GOT THE TEMPERAMENT FOR A PLAINTIFF COMMISSIONER, WHICH IS, IS GREAT.
I TOO, AS A PAPER BOY, UH, I HAD, I LIVED IN ON SHARON WAY, FLETCHER HILLS, AND I HAD HACIENDA AND WINDMILL VIEW AND ALL THIS BROCKTON, ALL THE STREETS BEHIND IT, AND, UH, GETTING UP AT 4:00 AM AND STUFF.
NOT, NOT THAT IT GIVES YOU THE EDGE, BUT, UH,
SO
SOMEBODY'S DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB.
WHY NOT REWARD THEM WITH CONTINUED SERVICE? ANOTHER SCHOOL THOUGHT WOULD BE, WELL, LET'S MIX IT UP.
LET'S, LET'S, YOU KNOW, LET'S RUN PEOPLE THROUGH THE PROCESS.
LET'S LET OTHER PEOPLE GET INVOLVED.
AND FRANKLY, UM, SOMETHING WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IS THAT HISTORICALLY, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION IS THE, UH, THE BREEDING GROUNDS FOR THE PEOPLE THAT END UP RUNNING FOR CITY COUNCIL.
SO IT'S GOOD TO HAVE MORE PEOPLE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, ESPECIALLY WITH, WITH DISTRICTS NOW, IT'S MORE COMPLICATED TO HAVE A, UH, SPOT OPEN UP IN A DISTRICT WHERE SOMEBODY'S AVAILABLE THAT LIVES IN THAT DISTRICT THAT HAS SOME RELEVANT EXPERIENCE.
SO THE MORE PEOPLE WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, THE MORE RELEVANT EXPERIENCE WE HAVE.
UH, HAVING SAID THAT, I, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO DO.
I, IT'S, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY, I WAS TALKING TO THIS YOUNG PERSON RECENTLY WHO WAS TRYING TO DECIDE BETWEEN BEING A, A POLICE OFFICER AND A FIREFIGHTER.
AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, I SAID IN THE END, THERE'S REALLY NO BAD DECISION.
YOU'RE IT, YOU'RE GONNA BE FINE.
EITHER WAY, BOTH DECISIONS ARE A GOOD DECISION.
SO IT'S NOT REALLY, AND CHIEF, DON'T, DON'T, DON'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THERE.
UM, I HAD TO TELL 'EM THAT I BOTH CHIEFS
UM, BUT IN, IN THE END, THERE'S REALLY NO SIGNIFICANTLY BAD DECISION WE CAN MAKE TONIGHT.
WE STILL HAVEN'T HEARD FROM, FROM MICHELLE.
LIKE EVERYONE ELSE SAID, WE'VE GOT SOME EXCELLENT CANDIDATES HERE.
UM, DEREK, UH, I HAVE SPENT SOME TIMES TALKING WITH DEREK, UH, AT A BECCA, UH, EVENT, AND, UM, WAS IMPRESSED WITH HIS LEADERSHIP SKILLS.
UM, PAUL AND, UH, ELIZABETH, BOTH OF YOU HAVE SERVED WELL ON THE COMMISSION, AND, UH, AS THE MAYOR SAID, NO MARKS AGAINST YOU, SHANNON.
AND I THINK THAT YOU WOULD BRING SOMETHING, YOU BRING THAT HOMETOWN.
GROWING UP HERE, IT WAS NOT A PAPER BOY, BUT I HELPED MY BROTHER.
HE WAS A PAPER BOY, AND I REMEMBER STEPPING PAPERS AND BAGS WHEN IT RAINED.
UM, BUT ANYWAY, UM, I THINK THAT, UM, WE'VE GOT EXCELLENT CANDIDATES.
WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE REALLY GOOD CANDIDATES COMING OUT FOR THESE COMMISSION, UM, SPOTS.
BUT SOMETHING THAT THE MAYOR DID SAY THAT I AGREE WITH, AND, AND HE BROUGHT IT OUT FIRST, SO I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH IT.
I, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO BRING A LOT OF CITIZENS THROUGH.
WE HAVE 105,000 RESIDENTS HERE.
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IS, YOU KNOW, GOING TO WANT TO RUN FOR CITY COUNCIL OR ANY OTHER POSITION.UM, BUT I THINK THAT WE NEED TO HAVE OUR CITIZENS HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY AND BRINGING SOMEONE NEW ON GIVES THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY THAT WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE.
UM, AND SO MY, UM, MY CHOICE WOULD BE FOR DEREK AND FOR SHANNON TO BRING IN SOME NEW BLOOD, UM, JUST TO GIVE THEM THAT OPPORTUNITY AS WELL.
NOTHING PERSONAL FOR ANYONE ELSE, BUT JUST TO BRING IN, I'M THE NEW PERSON ON THE BLOCK HERE, AND I'VE ONLY BEEN IN OFFICE FOR TWO YEARS, AND I WAS SOMEONE WHO I DIDN'T GO THROUGH PLANNING COMMISSION AND I HAVE HAD TO LEARN A LOT.
UM, IF YOU DO GET ON PLANNING COMMISSION AND DO DECIDE TO RUN FOR OFFICE LATER, UM, IT WILL GIVE YOU THE BASIS THAT EVERYBODY ELSE WHO DID GO THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION FIRST, UM, GARNERED THAT EXPERIENCE.
UM, AND SO I BELIEVE IN RUNNING CITIZENS THROUGH AND, AND, AND HAVING A CITY GOVERNMENT AND HAVING OUR DEPARTMENTS RUN BY THE CITIZENS.
AND, AND THAT'S WHY I'M MAKING THAT DECISION.
UM, UNDER DISCUSSION, I'M WONDERING IF IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO TAKE THIS ONE AT A TIME.
SO CUZ SOMETIMES YOU MAKE LIKE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE, BUT NOT LIKE THE SLATE.
AND, UM, IF YOU'D BE WILLING TO, I'D, I'D BE INTERESTED IN, IN TAKING THESE ONE AT A TIME AND THEN VOTING FOR THE SECOND PERSON AFTER THAT.
OPEN, OPEN FOR DISCUSSION ON THAT.
AS IN LET, MAKING A, MAKING A MOTION TO CHOOSE ONE COMMISSIONER AND THEN MAKING A MOTION TO CHOOSE ANOTHER COMMISSIONER INSTEAD OF BOTH AT THE SAME TIME IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, RIGHT? YEAH.
UNLESS ANYBODY HAVE OBJECTIONS TO THAT.
SO I, I GUESS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU'RE JUST OPENING IT UP BECAUSE REALLY THE MUNICIPAL CODE SAYS IT'S YOUR APPOINTMENT WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
BUT YOU'RE SAYING I DON'T REALLY HAVE A STRONG FEELING I CAN YEAH, NO, WE WAY IN WE'VE MET YOU.
I, I I WANT THIS TO BE A COUNCIL DECISION.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF IT PUTS SOMEBODY IN AN AWKWARD POSITION TO HAVE A SLATE AS OPPOSED TO TAKING EACH PERSON INDIVIDUALLY.
I I'D BE OKAY WITH THAT PERSONALLY.
BECAUSE IF YOU CHOOSE ONE, UH, OH, I, I, I, I CAN GO WITH THE CONSENSUS.
I DON'T HAVE A STRONG FIRM OPINION.
IT, UH, IT WAS JUST A THOUGHT.
YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT'S, UH, YOU, YOU'RE GETTING TO THAT POINT WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU, WHERE YOU, I THINK YOU MIGHT ENJOY THAT
YEAH, WE'LL JUST DO WHATEVER YOU SAY THEN.
WILL YOU CALL MY WIFE AND EXPLAIN
SHE'S GONNA CHARGE ME ONE OF THESE DAYS.
UM, SO THEN WHY DON'T YOU MAKE A MOTION THEN FOR ONE OF YOUR CANDIDATES.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPOINT DEREK CARDINALE TO THE POSITION OF PLANNING COMMISSION.
LET ME THINK FOR A SECOND ON THAT.
I WANNA THINK WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS OF, OF ALL THAT IS.
IF YOU SAY NO TO ANY CANDIDATE THE FIRST TIME, IT MEANS THEY REMAIN IN THE POOL FOR THE SECOND TIME.
ARE YOU FREE TO ALSO MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION? I AM GONNA MAKE A SUBSTITUTE MOTION.
UH, I'M GOING TO, UH, I LIKE MR. EDISON, SO I I WOULD BE ON MY SLATE.
UH, SO I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT WE APPROVE MR. EDISON.
SECOND THAT A SUBSTITUTE MOTION IS ON THE TABLE.
MOTION CARRIES BY A THREE TO ONE VOTE.
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SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION? YEAH.I'LL MOVE, UH, TO REAPPOINT PAUL SERCO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
MOTION CARRIES BY A THREE TO ONE VOTE.
MICHELLE MITCHELL VOTE SNOW AND KENDRICK IS ABSENT.
AND ELIZABETH, THANK YOU SPECIFICALLY FOR, FIRST OFF, ALL THE WORK YOU DO FOR THE KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY, TAKING CARE OF THE LITTLE ONES.
AND THEN FOR, FOR TAKING CARE OF, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
I KNOW YOU PROBABLY NURSE THEM MOST OF THE TIME.
NO, I, I REALLY SERIOUSLY, UM, WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT.
UM, I WAS ON PLANNING COMMISSION AND I THINK PHIL'S ON PLANNING COMMISSION.
LUCKILY THE PAYS SUPER HIGH, SO, UM, MAKES IT WORTHWHILE.
AND, UM, PAUL AND UM, SHANNON, YOU'LL BE, UM, SIGNED, UM, SWORN IN AT THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING THAT YOU ATTEND AND SOMEBODY WILL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU TO TALK, TALK YOU THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE MARINE CORPS.
YOU'RE, I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA BE BACK AND WE'RE GONNA GET THIS, GET THIS DONE.
THERE'S GO, THERE'S LOTS OF OPENINGS ALL THE TIME.
UM, THE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY FINANCING OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
WE HAVE THREE VACANCIES AND ONE APPLICANT.
AND AGAIN, I REMIND THE PUBLIC THAT APPLICATIONS ARE ACCEPTED ON A CONTINUOUS BASIS FOR THIS COMMITTEE.
AND MR. PATRICK GUILLO, AM I SAYING THIS CORRECTLY? YES.
HE IS OUR SOLE APPLICANT AT THIS TIME.
A LITTLE BIT OF A PALLET CLEANSER FOR YOU MAYBE AFTER THAT.
THREE VACANCIES, ONE APPLICANT
UH, MY NAME'S PATRICK CARLO, AS THE MAYOR SAID.
UM, AND I'M CURRENTLY A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY FACILITY FINANCING OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE, WHICH IS A MOUTHFUL, BUT IT'S THE PROP O OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE.
UM, THAT'S STILL AROUND BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THE TAXES EXPIRED, BECAUSE WE'RE STILL, UM, KIND OF OVERSEEING THE EXPENDITURE OF THE REMAINING FUNDS.
UM, SO, UM, I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMITTEE ABOUT TWO YEARS.
UM, I MYSELF HAVE LIVED IN EL CAJON ALMOST THREE YEARS NOW.
UM, AND, UM, HAVE ENJOYED THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE CITY, UM, THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THE FUNDS THAT WE DO HAVE REMAINING FROM THAT TAX, THOSE REVENUES ARE, UM, EXPENDED, UM, ON THE APPROPRIATE TYPES OF PROJECTS, WHAT THEY'RE INTENDED TO BE USED FOR, WHAT THE BALLOT PROPOSITION AUTHORIZED THEM FOR.
UM, SO WE'VE, WE'VE, AS THE MAYOR ALSO ALLUDED TO, OR I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER ORTIZ, IT'S NOT, UH, FACT HOUSES FOR THESE MEETINGS.
I THINK WE'VE HAVE AN ANNUAL MEETING.
WE'LL PROBABLY BE HAVING ANOTHER ONE I THINK THIS SPRING.
UM, THE CURRENT PROJECT WE HAVE IS, THAT'S, WE'RE MAINLY OVERSEEN IS AT THE FIRE STATION OVER ON, UM, IN FLETCHER HILLS, UM, ON KIND OF WEST WIND, I THINK IS THE ADDRESS THERE.
UM, AND FINISHING THAT UP AS WELL.
THE ONLY ONE THAT HASN'T REALLY BEEN RENOVATED.
UM, I'VE ALSO, UH, TAKEN INTEREST TO KIND OF LEARN ON THIS POSITION, UH, AS WELL.
I ATTENDED THE, UH, THE OPEN HOUSE THAT THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAD, UM, IN THE FALL.
JUST KINDA SEE THE FACILITIES.
UM, IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO JUST, YOU KNOW, INFORMALLY, CASUALLY TALK WITH A LOT OF THE STAFF, HEAR WHAT THEY, YOU KNOW, LIKE SEE THE EQUIPMENT, THINGS LIKE THAT.
GET A FIRSTHAND PERSPECTIVE ON WHAT'S NEEDED IN THE DEPARTMENT.
UM, AND LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO DO THAT GOING FORWARD.
UM, I'VE ALSO BEEN, UM, SERVING AS VICE CARE OF THE, THE COMMITTEE FOR WHATEVER THAT STORY, WHICH IS, LIKE I SAID, NOT A LOT OF MEETINGS, BUT, UM, HAVE TAKEN AN INTEREST IN THAT AND, AND LOOKING TO CONTINUE SERVING THAT.
UM, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL WRAP IT UP HERE BEFORE MY TERM EXPIRES WITH THE REMAINING, UH, MONIES THAT WE HAVE.
AND I WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
I HOPE WE WRAP UP BEFORE
YOU'RE NOT GONNA GRILL HIM TONIGHT.
IS THAT WHAT YOU OH, OH, THAT'S, THAT'S YOU DESERVE.
I JUST WANNA THANK YOU PATRICK, UM, FOR YOUR JOB ON THE COMMISSION.
CURRENTLY SERVING, YOU ARE THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS GET THE ACCOLADES, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU HOLD US AND I'M SURE YOU'RE SUPERIORS, YOU HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE AND YOU HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE.
AND THAT IS WHAT CITIZENS WANT.
CITIZENS WANT THEIR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY AND TO
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ACCOUNT FOR WHAT WE DO.AND I THINK THAT THAT'S COMMENDABLE BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I WANT MY ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT ARE ABOVE ME.
I MEAN, I HOLD MYSELF ACCOUNTABLE MAYBE, UM, BUT I WANT MY PRESIDENT AND MY SENATORS AND AND ASSEMBLY PEOPLE, I WANT THEM TO ANSWER TO ME AND TO UH, UH, EXPLAIN THEIR DECISIONS.
AND YOU'RE THE TYPE OF PERSON THAT THAT DOES THAT TO US.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S WHAT IT SHOULD BE.
AND SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UM, FOR DOING THE JOB.
CUZ YOU'VE GRILLED US HERE RECENTLY.
UM, WITHIN THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
I'M LIKE, DANG, WHY DID WE PUT 'EM ON THERE? BUT
THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER AND THANK YOU FOR NOT, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY NOT HOLDING THAT AGAIN.
SO, YOU KNOW, AND APPRECIATING THE, THE ACCOUNTABILITY AND I KNOW YOU ALL DO.
BEFORE YOU DO THAT, I I, I WANT TO ASK STAFF, UM, FIRST I GONNA ASK MR. CARDINAL, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN APPLYING TO THIS? FOR THIS POSITION? FOR THIS? HE, HE'S ON, HE'S ON IT ALREADY.
ONE OF OUR FAITHFUL ATTENDEES.
WELL, CAN WE GIVE HIM TWO SEATS?
WE NEED TO FILL THREE OTHER SPOTS.
SO YEAH, WE'LL GIVE 'EM TWO SEATS.
SO, WELL YOU HAVE FOUR WHAT? FOUR KIDS? FOUR.
BUT HIS TERM DOESN'T EXPIRE THOUGH YOUR, YOUR TERM.
HE'S STILL, HE'S STILL ON, HE'S STILL ON THE COMMISSION YEAH.
I, I, FOR SOME REASON I'VE FORGOTTEN THAT HE'S ON THE COMMITTEE.
I I WAS JUST THINKING HE'S SUCH A GOOD CANDIDATE.
IT WOULD BE A SHAME TO LET HIM WALK OUTTA HERE, NOT BE ON THE COMMITTEE, SO, WELL, NO, I'M GLAD THAT YOU BROUGHT IT UP CAUSE LAST TIME I PLANNING COMMISSION, SO NOW I'M ON THE COMMITTEE.
NO, I THINK IT WAS GOOD BECAUSE THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK.
CAUSE LIKE, WELL, IS HE OFF THE COMMISSION NOW OR WHATEVER AND LET'S JUST PUT HIM BACK ON.
ARE ANY OF YOUR KIDS PAPER BOYS
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
ALL RIGHT, THIS BRINGS US TO ADJOURNMENT.
THE ADJOURNED REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE CAJON CITY COUNCIL.
ELCON HOUSE HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE EL CAJON REDEVELOP REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.
HELD THIS 24TH DAY OF JANUARY, 2023 IS ADJOURNED TILL TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 14TH, 2023 AT 3:00 PM THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR TAKING THE TIME OUTTA YOUR EVENING TO COME AND SERVE YOUR, YOUR COMMUNITY.