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[CALL TO ORDER]
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I CALLED THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
PLEASE RISE FOR A FLAG SALUTE.
IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLICAN PUBLIC ONE NATION, LIBERTY, GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR YOU MAY BE SEATED.
OKAY, COMMISSIONER MAROSE PRESENT, COMMISSIONER POLL, RUDE PRESENT, COMMISSIONER SERCO PRESENT AND COMMISSIONER SOLE PRESENT, AND LET THE RECORD SHOW THAT COMMISSIONER VAAS IS ABSENT.
[CHAIRPERSON’S WELCOME]
YOU.WELCOME TO THE EL CAJON PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
THIS MEETING IS BEING LIVE STREAMED ON THE CITY OF EL CAJON WEBSITE.
APPEALS OF FINAL DECISIONS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MADE THIS EVENING MUST BE FILED IN WRITING WITH THE CITY CLERK BEFORE 5:00 PM FRIDAY, JANUARY 27TH, 2023, AND MUST INCLUDE THE PAYMENT OF A FILING FEE.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON EITHER A NON-AGENDA OR AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT, PLEASE FILL OUT THE REQUEST TO SPEAK CARD LOCATED BY THE AGENDA AND TURN IT INTO THE SECRETARY WHO WILL CALL YOU UP TO SPEAK.
WHEN THE AGENDA ITEM COMES UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, WE ASK US THAT YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME, SPELLING YOUR LAST NAME.
SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.
THE DISPLAY ON THE PODIUM, AS WELL AS THE OTHER MONITORS IN THE CHAMBERS WILL SHOW TIME COUNTING DOWN AT 30 SECONDS.
THE PODIUM CLOCK READOUT WILL TURN RED, SIGNIFYING THAT YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS UNTIL THE END OF YOUR TIME.
APPLICANTS AND INDIVIDUALS REPRESENTING GROUPS OF PEOPLE MAY BE ALLOWED MORE TIME IF APPROPRIATE.
ALL PUBLIC HEARING COMMENTS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO ME AS THE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION AND NOT TO INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS OR TO STAFF MEMBERS.
PLEASE TURN OFF ALL ELECTRONIC DEVICES IF YOU HAD NOT DONE SO PURSUANT TO CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION ONE 14 DASH 79.
A COMMISSIONER HAS RECEIVED EVIDENCE RELATED TO A MATTER BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION OTHER THAN AN UNESCORTED VIEW OF THE SUBJECT, PROPERTY IS REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE SUCH INFORMATION AT HEARING.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL TAKE COMMENT FROM ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ON ANY ITEM OF BUSINESS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE COMMISSION.
THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA UNDER STATE LAW.
NO ACTION CAN BE TAKEN ON ITEMS BROUGHT FORWARD UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT EXCEPT TO REFER IT TO STAFF FOR ADMINISTRATION OR PLACE IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
IF THERE'S ANYONE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD NOW.
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THAT THERE'S NONE, WE'RE GONNA GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR AT THIS TIME.WE WILL COVER ALL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
DOES THE COMMISSION WISH TO PULL ANY ITEMS? NOPE.
DO YOU WISH TO PULL ANY ITEMS? UH, NO CHANGES FROM STAFF.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SOK.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ERCO, PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF MEMBERS PRESENT.
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YOU.ALL RIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA GO TO OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.
UH, THE FIRST ITEM UNDER PUBLIC HEARING IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.
THIS IS THE CHARTER SCHOOL
IT IS A PRIMARY CHARTER SCHOOL TK THROUGH GRADE FIVE.
IT IS CINQUE EXEMPT AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVED STAFF.
UH, THE FIRST ITEM FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT IS THE CHARTER SCHOOL SUBMITTED BY MANDEX ARCHITECTURE ON BEHALF OF CANOE ACADEMY.
THE SUBJECT SITE IS ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF GRANITE HILLS DRIVE AND DEHI ROAD.
IT'S ADJACENT TO, UH, SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT AND A VACANT PARCEL TO THE SOUTH.
UM, IT'S CURRENTLY DEVELOPED AS A RELIGIOUS FACILITY AND AS I UNDERSTAND IS CURRENTLY NOT BEING UTILIZED.
UM, IT'S ALSO, UH, ADJACENT TO THE JURISDICTIONAL BOUNDARY WITH THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO.
UH, SO THIS SITE BORDERS THE COUNTY TO THE NORTH AND TO THE SOUTH ACROSS TAHI ROAD.
THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION AND THE ZONING DISTRICT ARE BOTH LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL LAND USE TABLE INDICATES THAT A C U P WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR A EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTION USE.
UM, THE EXISTING CONFIGURATION WAS APPROVED, UH, VIA C U P CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 1296 IN 1988.
UH, THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT APPROVED A ROUGHLY 15,000 SQUARE FOOT MAIN STRUCTURE, A 280 SQUARE FOOT ACCESSORY STRUCTURE IN THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE SITE, 140
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PARKING SPACES, WHICH WAS, UH, BEYOND WHAT WAS REQUIRED AT THE TIME AND A AND TWO 30 FOOT DRIVEWAY ENTRY.UH, ONE OF THOSE OFF OF, UH, GRANITE HILLS DRIVE AND THE OTHER OFF OF DASA ROAD LANDSCAPING AND SIGNAGE.
AND SO THE PROPOSED PROJECT, UH, UH, SEEKS TO REPURPOSE THAT EXISTING STRUCTURE, UH, INSIGHT FOR CHARTER SCHOOL.
UH, THE PROPOSAL WOULD EDUCATE, UH, THE SCHOOL WOULD EDUCATE UP TO 249 TRANSITIONAL KINDERGARTEN THROUGH FIFTH GRADE STUDENTS.
UH, REGULAR INSTRUCTION WOULD BEGIN AT 8:00 AM WITH TEACHERS ARRIVING AT 7:00 AM UH, AND STAGGERED STUDENT ARRIVAL, UH, BY GRADE, UH, STARTING AT 7:30 AM UH, REGULAR INSTRUCTION WOULD END AT 2:20 PM UH, THOUGH IT SHOULD BE MENTIONED THAT THEY DO HAVE LIKE A, A SHORTER DAY ON MONDAYS, UH, WHICH IN WHICH, UH, AND ON MONDAYS, THAT WOULD BE AROUND 1:30 PM UM, THE STAGGER, THEY ARE ALSO PROPOSING A STAGGERED RELEASE BY GRADE, WHICH WOULD END AT APPROXIMATELY 2:40 PM UH, LIMITED AFTERSCHOOL INSTRUCTION IS ALSO PROPOSED AS LATE AS 6:00 PM THE APPLICANT IS INDICATED THAT THEY EXPECT ROUGHLY 50% OF THE STUDENT, UH, STUDENTS WOULD UTILIZE THE AFTERSCHOOL INSTRUCTION, UH, AND THEY WOULD BE RELEASED AT VARIOUS TIMES UNTIL 6:00 PM.
UH, THE PROPOSAL ALSO INCLUDES, UH, NEW VEHICLE GATES AND FENCING TO PROPOSE, UH, TO FACILITATE THE PROPOSED CIRCULATION SCHEME, UH, AND TO KIND OF CREATE DEDICATED AREAS FOR OUTDOOR PLAY.
THE PROPOSAL NOTES THAT THERE WOULD ALSO BE SPECIAL EVENTS, WHICH ARE TYPICAL, UH, OF A SCHOOL USE, UH, SUCH AS PARENT TEACHER NIGHT OR A FALL FESTIVAL.
AND FINALLY, UH, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT KID NEW ACADEMY CURRENTLY OPERATES, UH, TRANSITIONAL KINDERGARTEN THROUGH THIRD GRADE, UH, CHARTER SCHOOL, UH, OF ROUGHLY 170 STUDENTS AT 10 25 NORTH SECOND STREET WITHIN THE CITY OF EL CAJON.
SO THIS IS THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN.
UH, AND AGAIN, PRIMARY ENTRY AND EXIT FROM THE SITE WOULD OCCUR AT THE GRANITE HILLS DRIVE DRIVEWAY.
UM, THE OTHER DRIVEWAY OFF OF DEHE ROAD WOULD REMAIN CLOSED EXCEPT FOR BY USE, BY EMERGENCY PERSONNEL.
UH, THE PROPOSED CIRCULATION OF THE SITE WOULD BE A TWO-LANE, ONE WAY, UH, AROUND THE ENTIRETY OF THE SITE FOR MAXIMUM ONSITE QUEUING AND DROP OFF AND PICKUP, UH, THE, AGAIN, THE NEW VEHICLE GATES WOULD SHUT OFF.
UH, WHAT IS ESSENTIALLY LIKE THE RECESS TIME BLACKTOP AREA ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, UH, DURING SCHOOL HOURS, AND THEN WOULD REOPEN FOR YOUR QUEUING FOR TRAFFIC, UM, DURING PICKUP.
UH, NOTABLY THE FORMER PARKING AREA ON THE EAST SIDE AGAIN, UH, WOULD REMAIN AVAILABLE SHOULD THE SCHOOL NEED ADDITIONAL SPACES FOR THOSE PARENT-TEACHER NIGHTS OR OTHER USE OTHER, UM, OTHER EVENTS.
UH, THE PLAN, UH, INCLUDES PLAY AREAS IN BOTH THE EAST AND WEST SIDES OF THE EXISTING OF THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.
UH, AND NEW WROUGHT IRON FENCING WOULD SECURE THOSE AREAS.
UH, THIS IS THE PROPOSED FLOOR PLAN.
UM, ESSENTIALLY THE MAIN HALL WOULD BE PARTITIONED, UH, FOR ADDITIONAL CLASSROOMS. UH, 10 CLASSROOMS ARE PROPOSED, AND THERE ARE OTHER VARIOUS IMPROVEMENTS, SUCH AS IMPROVEMENTS OF THE RESTROOMS TO, UH, ACCOMMODATE THE NEW OCCUPANCY OF, OF THE STRUCTURE.
SO MOVING ON TO THE COMPATIBILITY AND IN PROPOSED CONDITIONS, UM, AN ACOUSTICAL STUDY WAS, UH, GENERATED TO ASSESS PEAK TIME NOISE, WHICH WE DROP OFF PICK UP, UH, AND THOSE PLAY TIMES DURING THE DAY.
UH, THE NOISE, UH, ANALYSIS SHOWED THAT, UM, THE SCHOOL WOULD OPERATE BELOW THE DAYTIME OPERATING, UH, NOISE LIMITS IN BOTH ELCON MUNICIPAL CODE AND, UH, SAN DIEGO COUNTY STANDARDS.
UH, IT WOULD, UH, MEET THOSE THRESHOLDS BY ABOUT THREE TO NINE DECIBELS, DEPENDING ON WHICH STANDARD YOU'RE USING.
UM, AMPLE ONSITE PARKING AND THAT TWO-LANE.
ONE-WAY, UH, UH, TRAFFIC DRIVE, UH, WOULD FACILITATE ONSITE PICKUP AND DROP OFF HOPEFULLY TO ELIMINATE ANY, UH, YOU KNOW, STUDENTS BEING DROPPED OFF IN NEIGHBORHOODS OR ALONG THE, THE, THE MAIN ROADS THERE.
UM, CONDITIONS ADDRESS, AGAIN, THE NORMAL OPERATING HOURS, WHICH WE DISCUSSED.
UH, THE NO DROP OFF PICKUP FROM RESIDENTIAL STREETS AND ACTIVE STAFF MONITORING DURING THOSE PEAK TIMES, UM, THAT PARKING AND THE CIRCULATION REMAIN AS PROPOSED, UH, UNLESS PLANNING, UH, HAS REVIEWED AND ASSESSED OTHERWISE, UM, THAT THE CAP ON STUDENTS WOULD BE 249 TRANSITIONAL TRANSITIONAL KINDERGARTEN THROUGH FIFTH GRADE ONLY, UH, AND THAT THERE BE NO EXTERIOR PA SYSTEM, AND THAT THE SCHOOL BELL, IF THERE'S ANY, WOULD OPERATE IN CONFORMANCE WITH OUR NOISE STANDARDS.
AND SO THESE WERE THE FINDINGS THAT SAFA PROPOSED, UH, FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
UM, THE GENERAL PLAN ENCOURAGES INTERACTION BETWEEN SCHOOLS, PARKS, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, UH, AND MAJOR STREETS AND NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, FOR NEIGHBORHOOD VOCAL POINTS, UH, THE PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH APPLICABLE
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DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF THE RS 40 ZONE.UH, AND CONDITIONS REQUIRE, UH, COMPLIANCE WITH ADDITIONAL BUILDING AND FIRE CODES.
UH, GENERALLY SCHOOLS ARE CONSIDERED COMPATIBLE WITH RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND SPECIFIC ISSUES OF NOISE AND TRAFFIC WERE ASSESSED.
UH, IMPACTS ARE NOT ANTICIPATED WITH THE NORMAL OPERATION OF A SCHOOL.
AND PERFORMANCE STANDARDS CAN BE ENFORCED VIA, UM, COCO COMPLIANCE IF, IF THAT NEED ARISES.
UH, AND THE PROPOSAL WOULD PROVIDE AN APPROPRIATE PLACE FOR CHILDREN TO RECEIVE AN EDUCATION AND AN ADDITIONAL OPTION IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO, UM, WITH THAT STAFF, UH, RECOMMEND, OH, I'M SORRY, SIQUA.
UH, THE PROPOSAL IS, WOULD BE EXEMPT PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 15,000 3 0 1 FOR, UH, EXISTING STRUCTURES AND 15 3 0 3 FOR NEW, UH, NEW CONSTRUCTION OF THES GUIDELINES AND STAFF RECOMMEND THAT PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTIONS IN ORDER APPROVING THE C Q EXEMPTION AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 22 20 22 DASH ZERO 16 SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
AND WE'RE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
UH, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YES.
OUT OF CURIOSITY, HOW MANY VEHICLES FIT IN THE QUEUE? I KNOW WE DID A LOT OF STUDIES WHEN THE IN AND OUT OVER BY PARKWAY PLAZA OPENED, AND WE CREATED AN EXTRA BIG QUEUE SPACE, AND THEY STILL OVERFLOW.
SO, UH, IT WITH THE SCHOOL WILL BE DIFFERENT.
BUT HOW MANY VEHICLES FIT IN THAT QUEUE? I'M NOT QUITE CERTAIN.
I'M, I'M TAKE A LOOK, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, THE LENGTH OF THE ACTUAL, UH, STACKING IS.
IF THERE'S A DIMENSION, I COULD PROBABLY TELL YOU OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
SO WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE WIDTH OF THE SITE PLAN? UM, SHALL THIS, I CAN'T HOLD IT HERE.
SO THIS WHOLE THING IS DOUBLE STACKED ALL THE WAY AROUND.
SO THAT'S ABOUT WHAT'S THE WIDTH OF THIS? 403 83 3 3 43 40.
600, UH, AT LEAST 50 VEHICLES.
YEAH, THAT'S A BIG, THAT'S AT LEAST 50 VEHICLES
I'M JUST KIND OF DOING THE MATH OF MY HEAD.
THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD SIZED PROPERTY.
COMMISSIONER SATI AND THE PICKUP TIMES ARE STAGGERED, CORRECT? THEY'RE NOT ALL AT ONCE.
BEGINNING AT SEVEN 30 RIGHT NOW.
WILL, UM, THE OTHER SCHOOL, WHICH IS ON NORTH SECOND STREET, WILL THAT, UH, CONTINUE OR WILL THAT BE CLOSED DOWN? I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION EITHER.
I BELIEVE THE, UH, APPLICANT IS IN, UH, HERE TONIGHT, SO THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT QUESTION.
DO A QUICK QUESTION REGARDING, BECAUSE I KNOW THE KEYS, THE BACKS UP.
I KNOW THAT IT'S CLOSE TO A STOPLIGHT, EVEN BEACON EAST STREET, BECAUSE I KNOW THE ONE SIDE HAS A, YOU CAN TURN IN BOTH WAYS, BUT IT'S GONNA BE ONE WAY IN, ONE WAY OUT, OR HOW ARE THEY GONNA HANDLE THAT? SO STAFF DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT, UH, HEWING WOULD BACK UP ONTO THE STREET.
UM, BASED ON, AGAIN, BASED ON THE KIND OF, UH, GENERAL NUMBERS FOR THIS TYPE OF USE, THE EXPECTED NUMBER OF TRIPS GENERATED EVERY DAY IS ABOUT 400.
UM, UH, BASED ON THAT, A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS WAS NOT REQUIRED.
UH, SO NO OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS ARE PROPOSED.
UM, AND AGAIN, I I, I THINK STAFF'S POSITION IS THAT THE SITE CAN SUPPORT THE PEAK HOUR USAGE.
UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP TO PUBLIC HEARING.
DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? UH, YES.
I HAVE ONE SPEAKER CARD FOR THIS, UM, ITEM, DAN MANNOX.
WE WERE GONNA GO AS A GROUP OR PARTNER TEAM.
YEAH, I, I DON'T, I I THINK WE PUT US DOWN AS A GROUP.
SO, ANYWAYS, UM, GOOD EVENING.
I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT KAINO ACADEMY.
ON BEHALF OF OUR KAINO BOARD AND OUR KAINO ACADEMY SCHOOL COMMUNITY, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF OUR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR 1701 GRANITE HILLS KAINO ACADEMY IS TRULY A SPECIAL SCHOOL.
WE ARE A SMALL CHARTER SCHOOL THAT SERVES TK THROUGH FIFTH GRADE STUDENTS.
WE OPENED IN 2019 AND HAVE DOUBLED OUR STUDENT POPULATION SINCE OUR INAUGURAL YEAR.
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OF OUR STUDENTS QUALIFY FOR FREE OR REDUCED LUNCH.72% OF OUR STUDENTS ARE ENGLISH LANGUAGE LEARNERS, AND 10% OF OUR STUDENT BODY HAS SPECIAL NEEDS.
WE BELIEVE THAT EDUCATION CAN CHANGE THE WORLD, AND WE ARE WORKING TO GIVE ALL OUR CHILDREN AND THE CHILDREN OF EL CAJON ACCESS TO A HIGH QUALITY, WELL-ROUNDED ACADEMIC EXPERIENCE.
WHEN COMPARING OUR SCHOOL'S 2022 STATE TESTING PERFORMANCE TO CAJON VALLEY UNION SCHOOL DISTRICT, YOU WILL SEE THAT WE SURPASS THEM BY OVER 9% IN MATH AND BY OVER 15% IN READING AND WRITING.
WE NOT ONLY OFFER OUR STUDENTS EXEMPLARY CORE INSTRUCTION, WE ALSO FIELD IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO EXPOSE 'EM TO DIVERSE LEARNING EXPERIENCES.
THIS YEAR, WE ESTABLISH A LEGO ROBOTICS PROGRAM WHERE EVERY SINGLE CHILD GETS TO LEARN ENGINEERING PRINCIPLES AND CODING.
WE ALSO HAVE AN ARRAY OF CLUB OPPORTUNITIES, INCLUDING DANCE, YOGA, BOARD GAMES, LANGUAGE CLASSES, SOCCER, ART, AND MUSIC.
AS A SCHOOL COMMUNITY, WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT WE ARE AN IMPORTANT RESOURCE FOR THE FAMILIES IN EL CAJON.
MANY OF OUR PARENTS ARE CALEN REFUGEES WHO ARE NEW TO THIS COUNTRY, AND THEY RELY ON OUR SCHOOL TO HELP THEM WITH THIS LOCAL AREA RESOURCES AND SUPPORT.
IN OUR MOST RECENT PARENT SURVEY, WE HAD 98.5% OF OUR PARENTS RESPOND.
AND OF THOSE RESPONDENTS, 97.6% OF THE PARENTS SHARED THAT THE KINO STAFF HAD HELPED THEM WITH LEARN A NEW SKILL, STRATEGY OR APPROACH TO SUPPORT THEIR CHILD IN THEIR LEARNING.
WE WANT OUR FAMILIES TO KNOW THAT WE'VE INVESTED IN THEM AS MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY AS WELL.
WE KNOW THAT THE PROPERTY ON GRANITE HILLS WILL PROVIDE US WITH A SAFE, BEAUTIFUL CAMPUS WHERE OUR STUDENTS AND STAFF CAN THRIVE AND WHERE WE CAN CONTINUE TO ACHIEVE OUR MISSION.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? YES, I HAVE A QUESTION.
WILL THE SCHOOL ON NORTH SECOND STREET, UH, CONTINUE TO BE OPEN? YES.
THAT'S OUR CONTINUE OPERATION.
KAINO IS ACTUALLY AN, UH, ANCIENT BABYLONIAN ASTRONOMER AND SCIENTIST.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT.
UH, ANY MORE SPEAKER CARDS? NOT FOR THIS ITEM.
DAN MANNOX, ARCHITECT ON THE PROJECT.
UH, GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE PUN, COMMISSION MEMBERS.
I'M A 4 39 ELCON BOULEVARD, EL CAJON.
THANKS FOR CONSIDERING THIS C U P CONVERTING THE CHURCH TO A CHARTER SCHOOL.
I THINK WE WENT OVER THE, UM, SIDES OF THE SCHOOL AND, AND STUDENTS AND SO ON.
UM, ONE QUESTION THAT CAME UP WAS THE, UH, LENGTH OF THE, UH, QUEUING AREA.
SO WE, WE DO HAVE, UH, A DOUBLE QUEUE, UH, GOING IN.
AND SO IT'S 1,652 LINEAR FEET, UH, TO STACK THE CARS, AND THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE APPROXIMATELY 83 CARS.
SO WE DON'T THINK IT'LL GET UP TO THAT NUMBER, BUT, UH, IT'S NICE TO HAVE THE AREA IF YOU NEED IT.
UH, THE STUDENT, UH, RECESS AREAS WERE PICKED UP BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO, UM, TRIM DOWN OUR TOTAL PARKING AREAS OF 139 SPACES.
UH, WE'RE ABLE TO CONVERT 59, UM, FOR THE RECESS AREA.
UM, EVEN THOUGH THE SITE IS TWO AND A HALF ACRES, THE, THE PROPERTY DOES, UH, UM, GO FURTHER QUICKLY WITH TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING ON THERE.
SO THAT WAS ANOTHER ADVANTAGE TO DOING THIS PROJECT.
WE DO HAVE THE BLOCK WALL ATTRIBUTE, WHICH WE REALLY DO NEED.
OTHER, OTHER, UH, ATTRIBUTES FOR THE, UH, EOC OCCUPANCY, THE NEW SCHOOL OCCUPANCY WILL BE THE FIRE SPRINKLERS AND FIRE ALARM.
AND ALSO THERE ARE, THERE ARE CLASSROOMS IN THE BUILDING NOW THAT WE CAN PRETTY MUCH USE AS IS.
SO WE FELT THAT WAS, UM, HAD QUITE A BIT OF VALUE.
UH, ANOTHER ENHANCEMENT THAT WE DID TO THE PROJECT WAS WE ADDED AN ADA SIDEWALK CONNECTING GRANITE HILLS DRIVE TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF THE FACILITY.
SO RIGHT NOW IT'S PRETTY MUCH JUST WALK IN THE DRIVEWAY.
SO WE CLEANED THAT UP AND, UM, MADE A, UM, MORE APPROPRIATE ACCESS FOR, FOR THE STUDENTS.
AND, UH, AND ALSO ADA, UM, UH, FOLKS USING THE SITE.
UH, THE SITE IS PROBABLY LUSH RIGHT NOW.
LANDSCAPING, WE'LL MAINTAIN ALL THAT.
UM, THAT WAS ONE ANOTHER, UM, UH, KEY TO THE PROJECT WAS,
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UH, WAS ALL THE EXISTING LANDSCAPING, ACCESSIBLE PARKING FROM THE, UH, RELOCATED, UH, RECESS AREA WHERE THAT WE PROVIDED THAT, UH, WE DID HAVE TO RELOCATE THE PARKING TO THE NORTH END OF THE, OF THE BUILDING.WE ADDED TWO CLEAN AIR PARKING SPOTS.
UH, WE KEPT THE UTILITY BUILDING TO THE NORTHEAST.
WE ADDED RECYCLING A BIKE RACK, AND WE THINK WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, PLENTY OF PARKING FOR STAFF, UM, TO UTILIZE THE, UH, THE BUILDING.
THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING WILL REMAIN AS IS NO COLOR CHANGE, NO ROOFING MATERIAL CHANGE.
UM, SO YOUR VOTE IS APPRECIATED.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? OKAY.
WELL, AT THIS TIME, I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'LL SECOND MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MOROSE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ERCO, PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION CARRIES BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE.
WELL, IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD USE.
I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW IT WAS VACANT.
BUT YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
WELL, DO I HAVE A MOTION? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTIONS IN ORDER APPROVING THE C EQUA EXEMPTION AND C U P NUMBER 2022 DASH 0 0 1 6.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ERCO, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SOT, PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
THANK YOU FOR INVESTING IN THE YOUTH.
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ALL RIGHT.THE PROJECT NAME IS VE TOSO BATTERY BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM, AND IT IS A REQUEST FOR A BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM.
IT ISS EXEMPT STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVED STAFF.
UM, SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ADDRESSED AS 2 0 3 NORTH JOHNSON AVENUE AND IS IN IRREGULARLY SHAPED LOT THAT TOTALS APPROXIMATELY SIX GROSS ACRES.
I'M EXCLUDING THE INACCESSIBLE AREA, UH, BEYOND THE DRAINAGE CHANNEL.
THE SITE HAS AN APPROXIMATE NET AREA OF 5.5 ACRES.
THE SITE IS PREVIOUSLY DEVELOPED AND FORMALLY OPERATED AS A MANUFACTURING FACILITY FOR AEROSPACE COMPONENTS, INDUSTRIAL FASTENERS, AND OTHER PRODUCTS.
THERE ARE A TOTAL OF SIX EXISTING PRIMARY STRUCTURES WITH AN APPROXIMATE GROSS FLOOR AREA OF 65,000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, STAFF DID WANNA NOTE THAT THE PROJECT AREA DOES EXCLUDE THE BATH FITTER STORE, WHICH IS SHOWN IN RED, UH, WITH AN AN A ON THIS, UH, AERIAL IMAGE, UH, SURROUNDING THE SUBJECT SITE, UH, TO THE NORTH, THERE'S THE JEROME'S FURNITURE STORE.
UH, TO THE SOUTH IS THE LITERACY FIRST CHARTER SCHOOL, UH, TO THE EAST, MULTI-FAMILY APARTMENTS AND DEVELOPMENTS.
AND THEN TO THE WEST IS THE SD GEN E SUBSTATION.
SO THE SITE PLAN IS SHOWN HERE.
UM, THE OVERALL PROJECT IS A 50 MEGAWATT BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE CENTER.
UM, IT INCLUDES 33 OUTDOOR BATTERY CONTAINERS, 936 BATTERY RACKS.
UM, OF NOTE IS THE NEW LANDSCAPING THAT IS PROPOSED ALONG NORTH JOHNSON AVENUE.
THERE'S NEW LANDSCAPING, UH, THAT'S SHOWN IN GREEN ON THE SITE PLAN HERE.
AND THEN LASTLY, UH, THE SITE PLAN SHOWS IN BLUE, UH, AREAS FOR, UH, VEHICULAR ACCESS AND EMERGENCY.
SO THESE ARE THE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS.
UM, STAFF WOULD NOTE THAT THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL DO REQUIRE THAT THE ROT IRON FENCE, UH, BE REPLACED WITH A MASONRY WALL AND A VIEW OBSCURING GATE.
UH, AND THAT WOULD APPLY TO BOTH THE TOP ELEVATION AND THE BOTTOM ELEVATION.
UM, THAT'S STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO CREATE A UNIFORM APPEARANCE ACROSS THE ENTIRETY OF NORTH JOHNSON AVENUE AND TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE EQUIPMENT IS ESSENTIALLY SCREENED, UH, FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
UM, STAFF HAS DISCUSSED THIS CONDITION WITH THE APPLICANT, AND THEY'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL, UM, ALTHOUGH NOT DEPICTED ON THE PROPOSED ELEVATION.
STAFF ALSO WANTED TO NOTE THAT THE, UH, ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING ALONG NORTH JOHNSON AVENUE SHOULD ALSO CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THE SCREENING OF THE SITE, AND THAT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT DEPICTED ON THESE PROPOSED ELEVATIONS.
SO THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION, UH, FOR THE SITE IS, UH, LIGHT INDUSTRIAL, AND THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH GOAL FOUR, THE GENERAL PLAN, WHICH SEEKS QUALITY INDUSTRIAL USES, UH, ESPECIALLY WITH THE INCLUSION OF THE NEW LANDSCAPING AND THE MASONRY SCREENING WALL.
IT WILL DEFINITELY DO A LOT TO IMPROVE THE APPEARANCE OF THE SITE, UH, FROM NORTH JOHNSON AVENUE.
UM, STAFF ALSO WANTED TO NOTE THE SAFETY ELEMENT SAFETY ELEMENT WAS APPROVED OR UPDATED, UH, LAST YEAR.
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THERE ARE POLICIES IN THE SAFETY ELEMENT THAT, UH, SEEK TO CREATE A RESILIENT PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AS A BACKUP BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEM THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SAFETY ELEMENT AND THOSE GOALS, UH, TO HAVE MORE RELIABLE ENERGY SOURCES HERE IN EAST COUNTY.SO IN ORDER TO PROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL NEED TO MAKE THE FINDINGS SHOWN ON THIS SLIDE.
UH, THE PROJECT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AS IT RELATES TO THE LANDSCAPING AND PARKING.
UH, THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL DO REQUIRE THE MASONRY BLOCK ALONG OR JOHNSON AVENUE, AND THEN ALSO ALONG THE SOUTHERLY PROPERTY LINE ADJACENT TO THE SCHOOL.
UM, AND THAT THAT WILL ENSURE COMPATIBILITY AND, UH, MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, UH, THE USE IS NOT DETRIMENTAL TO SURROUNDING USES.
UH, LASTLY, THE USE IS IN THE PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AS NECESSITY, AGAIN, BECAUSE IT WILL IMPROVE INFRASTRUCTURE RE RESILIENCY AND RELIABILITY.
UH, STAFF DID RECEIVE TWO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
UH, THE FIRST WAS FROM THE ADJACENT SCHOOL ASKING THE MASONRY WALL BE EXTENDED ALONG THE ENTIRETY OF THE SOUTHERLY PROPERTY LINE.
UH, THAT EMAIL WAS RECEIVED EARLIER, UH, I SHOULD SAY OVER THE WEEKEND.
UH, COPIES WERE DISTRIBUTED ON THE DIAS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, STAFF WOULD NOTE THAT THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS ONLY REQUIRE THE WALL ADJACENT TO THE PLAYGROUND, AS I JUST JUST MENTIONED, AND THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MAY WISH TO DISCUSS, UH, THE WALL ALONG THE SUBTLY PROPERTY LINE.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT AND IS ALSO AWARE OF THE COMMENTS FROM, UH, THE SCHOOL AND IS PREPARED TO ADDRESS THOSE, UM, AS WELL.
THE SECOND COMMENT WAS TO INCORPORATE ADDITIONAL NATIVE PLANTS IN, IN THE PROPOSED LANDSCAPING.
AND SO STAFF HAS TAKEN THAT NOTE.
UH, BUT OBVIOUSLY THE, UH, LANDSCAPE ORDINANCE WOULD APPLY TO THE FLANNEL LANDSCAPE DESIGN.
SO THE PROJECT DOES QUALIFY FOR AN EXEMPTION FROM THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTIONS IN ORDER APPROVING THE C Q A EXEMPTION AND THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
AND THAT CONCLUDES STAFFS PRESENTATION.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, SIR? THERE WE GO.
SO YOU DID MENTION THAT THE NORTH AND SOUTH PROPERTY LINES ARE TO HAVE MASONRY BLOCK WALLS FOR, PART OF THAT IS FOR SCREENING, AND I ASSUME PART OF THAT IS FOR SAFETY.
UM, BLOCK WALLS ARE VERY, VERY HARSH WALLS.
SO, JUST TO CLARIFY, THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ONLY REQUIRE THE MASONRY WALL ALONG NORTH JOHNSON AVENUE.
AND SO THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT FOR A MASONRY WALL BETWEEN, UM, JEROME'S AND THE SUBJECT SITE.
AND THEN THE, UM, THE CONDITION ALONG THE SOUTHERLY PROPERTY LINE IS ONLY IN THE VERY SOUTHERLY CORNER OF THE BATTERY STORAGE SITE, WHEREAS THERE IS THE PLAYGROUND FOR, UH, THE CHARTER SCHOOL.
AND SO THE MASONRY WALL THERE IS ONLY PROPOSED TO BE ADJACENT, UH, TO THAT AREA.
SO, UM, AS CONDITIONED IN THE RESOLUTION, UM, THE LANDSCAPING, UH, BETWEEN, UH, THE, THE PROPERTY LINE ON NORTH JOHNSON AVENUE AND THE MASONRY WALL WILL, UH, BUFFER THAT, UH, WALL.
UH, THE WALL, WHICH IS, UH, BORDERING LITERACY FIRST, UM, ARE CHILDREN, UH, IF THE WALL ISN'T GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH, ARE CHILDREN ABLE TO GO TO THAT PROPERTY, UH, JUMP THE WALL OR GO THROUGH THE BUSHES OR WHATEVER? IS THERE A DANGER OF CHILDREN GOING THERE? I WOULD SAY THE, THE CONDITION PROPOSES IT ONLY ADJACENT TO THE PLAYGROUND.
UH, THE PLAYGROUND IS FENCED AND PRESUMABLY MONITORED BY STAFF WHY CHILDREN ARE PLAYING OUTSIDE.
UM, I, I WOULDN'T WANT TO SUPPOSE, UH, CUZ CHILDREN ARE, ARE QUITE CAPABLE OF MANY THINGS.
UM, SO IT'S CERTAINLY POSSIBLE THAT A, A CHILD COULD, UM, YOU KNOW, EXIT THE PLAYGROUND AND GET INTO AN AREA THAT THEY'RE NOT AUTHORIZED TO BE IN.
UM, BUT FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE OVERALL USE.
SO THE, THE PLAYGROUND, DEFINITELY WE WANT TO HAVE A WALL THERE TO SEPARATE THE CHILDREN FROM THE PLAY AREA.
THE REMAINDER OF THE SOUTHLY PROPERTY LINE EITHER HAS, UH, BUILDINGS OR STRUCTURES THAT ARE ALMOST ON THE PROPERTY LINE.
AND IT'S ALSO PRIMARILY USED AS, UM, ACCESS, UM, TO THE SITE FOR LOADING AND OTHER PURPOSES.
SO IT'S NOT REALLY USED FOR SCHOOL ACTIVITIES AND THAT'S WHY STAFF STRUCTURE THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL A AS SHOWN IN THE, IN THE RESOLUTION.
WELL, I'M JUST IMAGINING SOMEBODY FROM THE SCHOOL GOING OVER THERE AND HIGH VOLTAGE MM-HMM.
UH, THAT'S, I SEE THE CONCERN THAT MR. ROBINSON HAS ON HIS EMAIL MM-HMM.
AND I'M LOOKING AT A STREET VIEW OF IT, AND IT LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, BEHIND THE, THE LIT LITERACY FIRST BUILDING, IT LOOKS LIKE AN ALLEYWAY, BUT THEN I ALSO SEE BARBED WIRE FENCE.
IT LOOKS LIKE A LITTLE DRAINAGE CHANNEL.
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WELL.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALRIGHT, IS THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? UH, YES.
I HAVE ONE FOR STEVE ROBINSON FOR THIS.
I SERVE AS, UH, THE CHIEF BUSINESS OFFICER FOR LITERACY FIRST CHARTER SCHOOLS.
UM, APPRECIATE THE DEVELOPER TAKING TIME TO TALK TO MYSELF AND OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, DEBBIE BYER LAST WEEK ABOUT OUR SAFETY CONCERNS FOR THE PROPOSED SITE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY OUR MAJOR CONCERNS ARE THE SAFETY OF OUR STAFF, UH, AND OUR STUDENTS.
UM, THAT THE PLAYGROUND AREA DOES HAVE AN, AN EXISTING MASONRY WALL, UM, AND THEN IT ALL THE WAY TO JOHNSON FROM THERE.
THERE IS A DILAPIDATED, AT THIS POINT, DILAPIDATED CHAIN LINK FENCE THAT IS QUITE POROUS.
UM, WHEN THE PREVIOUS OWNER MOVED OUT, THERE WAS A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT WERE MOVING IN AND OUT OF THERE.
UM, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WAS A SIGNIFICANT SAFETY ISSUE FOR US.
UM, THAT BACK ALLEYWAY THAT YOU SAW, UM, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE STUDENTS USE THAT, BUT STUDENTS USE THAT QUITE OFTEN.
WE HAVE, UH, A MILEAGE CLUB THAT KIDS RUN AROUND THE CAMPUS.
UM, PE GOES IN AND OUT BACK THERE, UH, THE END OF SCHOOL EVERY DAY, STUDENTS WALK OUT THAT BACK ALLEY TO GET TO THE PICKUP AREA.
SO THAT IS HEAVILY TRAFFICKED BY OUR STUDENTS.
UM, AND SO THAT WAS MY REQUEST THAT, UM, WE THOUGHT A, A BRICK WALL, SEVEN FOOT BRICK WALL ALL THE WAY ON OUR, THE LENGTH OF OUR SOUTHERN PROPERTY, OF OUR, OUR NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE, 2 0 3 NORTH JOHNSON SOUTHERN LINE, UH, WOULD BE THE SAFEST BET, UM, TO PROTECT OUR STUDENTS.
UM, AND, UH, SO I'M ASKING THAT THE, UM, COMMISSION MAKE THAT A CONDITION OF, OF THE PERMIT.
UH, QUESTION FOR YOU, DID, UM, YOU HAD THE SAME CONVERSATION, OBVIOUSLY, WITH THE DEVELOPERS, AND HOW DID THEY FEEL ABOUT THAT? UH, THEY WERE COMMITTED TO PUTTING IN, UM, AT LEAST A FENCE.
UM, THEY TOOK OUR, OUR COMMENT SERIOUSLY.
UM, THEY SEEMED VERY ACCOMMODATING AND THEY'D BE WILLING TO MAKE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME TYPE OF SECURITY FENCE OR WALLET CONDITION OF THE PERMIT.
SO, MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I DO BELIEVE THAT THE APPLICANT IS PRESENT IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF THOSE QUESTIONS.
AND JUST TO FURTHER CLARIFY MY COMMENTS ON THE PLAY AREAS, I THINK MY DISCUSSION WAS INTENDED TO BE FOCUSED ON THE OUTDOOR PLAY AREA SPECIFICALLY.
SO OBVIOUSLY THE, UM, THE OPERATOR FOR THE SCHOOL IS CLARIFYING, UH, AS THE USES OPERATED.
UH, BUT JUST TO CLARIFY THAT, YEAH.
WITHIN STAFF'S APPROACH AND RECOMMENDATION.
UH, IS THE, UH, APPLICANT HERE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP AND ADDRESS? YES.
UH, MY NAME IS LU CHALA FROM R W.
UH, I CONFIRMED THAT WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION, UM, WITH THE SCHOOL ABOUT THE WALL, AND WE ARE SUPPORTIVE.
I MEAN, IT IS OUR OWN INTENT TO PREVENT ANY OR NOTARIZED ACCESS TO, TO THE PROPERTY.
SO WHATEVER WE CAN DO TO ENSURE THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE DEFINITELY WILLING TO DO.
OBVIOUSLY THE CHAIN LINK FENCE IS COMING DOWN RIGHT.
AND EITHER A WALL OR, OR SOME SORT OF ROD IRON OR SOMETHING'S GOING UP THERE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? UH, YES.
UH, I KNOW SOMETIME BACK WE, UH, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WE APPROVED THE BATTERY, UH, STORAGE IN SDG UH, PROPERTY.
THEY'RE ACROSS THE STREET FOR, UH, FOR WHERE YOU'RE GONNA BE.
SO ARE YOU GONNA BE SELLING YOUR ENERGY TO SDG AND E ACROSS THE STREET? UH, SO WE ARE GONNA HAVE AN NFTE CONTRACTOR, UH, WITH MOS PROBABLY ONE OF THE UTILITIES IN, UH, IN CALIFORNIA.
AND WE ARE DISCUSSING WITH DIFFERENT UTILITIES, ONE OF THEM BEING SD G AND E.
UM, AND THE ULTIMATE PURPOSE OF THE, OF THE ASSET REGARDLESS, UH, THE, THE CONTRACTING REALLY TO PROVIDE RESILIENCY TO THE LOCAL GRID, UH, AND CALIFORNIA SYSTEM.
AND ALSO NOTICE THAT, UH, YOU'RE GOING TO BE TRANSFERRING THE ENERGY THROUGH UNDERGROUND WIRES.
WILL YOU BE BREAKING UP THE STREET OR WILL IT JUST GO UNDER, UNDER THE, UH, STREET WITHOUT, UH, DISRUPTION TO THE TRAFFIC? IT, IT WILL BE TRENCHED.
THE STREET WILL BE BROKEN UP, CORRECT? YES, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE SO.
MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I CAN CLARIFY THE, UM, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THEM TO OBTAIN AN ENCROACHMENT PERMIT IN ORDER TO TRENCH, UM,
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ACROSS THE STREET.SO THAT, UM, THAT WILL BE REQUIRED.
AND IF WE COULD, UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF WE COULD ASK THE SPEAKER JUST TO SPELL, UH, HIS LAST NAME FOR THE RECORD.
IS C I A B LIKE VICTOR, A R E DOUBLE L A.
WELL, NO, SCENE THAT WE HAVE, NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS.
GO AHEAD AND NOT IN MY POSSESSION.
MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MOROSE.
MR. CHAIRMAN, WE SEEM TO BE HAVING A FAILURE WITH THE LIGHTS.
COULD, COULD WE CONTINUE WITH VOICE VOTE? AND WHEN THIS ITEM IS COMPLETED, CONFIRM THE VOTES AND THE FIRST TWO ITEMS? SURE.
SO MOTION CARRIES BY YOU UNANIM THIS VOTE.
DO YOU WANT, DO WE NEED TO CLARIFY THE PREVIOUS VOTE? YES.
AND THAT WAS FOR, UH, FOR THE RECORD? YES.
THE CHARTER SCHOOL, UH, THAT I WAS AN AYE.
SO THIS IS THE SECOND BATTERY SY STORAGE SYSTEM THAT WE'VE SEEN COME BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
THERE WAS ONE PROPOSED FOR, UH, THE BACK END OF THE ELCON TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER, I BELIEVE.
UM, STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING, UH, WITH THE APPLICANT FOR THAT PROJECT.
THEY HAVE, UH, REVISED THEIR DESIGN ON THE BATTERIES, UM, OKAY.
UH, A FEW TIMES, UH, AND HAVE GONE THROUGH A SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE REVIEW, UH, PROCESS.
THEY ALSO HAD SOME ISSUES WITH, UM, PROVIDING, UM, FIRE DEPARTMENT ACCESS, UM, TO THE SITE.
SO WE'RE STILL CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THEM, UM, ON THAT SITE.
AND ADDITIONALLY, THERE WAS THE BATTERY STORAGE THAT'S ACROSS THE STREET, UH, FROM, FROM THE SUBJECT SITE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT.
UM, THAT BATTERY STORAGE, UH, HAS NOT MOVED FORWARD INTO BUILDING PERMITS.
UM, THEY'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH MYSELF, UM, ASKING ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES FOR GRANTS AND, AND, UM, DOING EXTENSIONS AND SO FORTH.
UH, BUT, UM, THERE'S NO, UH, WE HAVEN'T BEEN PROVIDED NOTICE THAT THAT PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD.
SO, AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE STILL HAVE NO BATTERY STORAGE VECON.
WELL, I'M HOPING THAT THIS ONE MAKES IT, CUZ UH, THAT'S A LOT OF BATTERIES.
THAT'S A LOT OF BACKUP STORED ENERGY.
WHAT ABOUT THE SDG AND E THAT WE APPROVED BATTERY STORAGE IN IN THAT PROPERTY WE JUST SAID HASN'T HAPPENED YET.
THAT WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WASN'T IT? CORRECT.
UM, WELL, RIGHT NOW WE'VE GOT A PEAKER PLANT.
WELL, I WOULD NOT BE ADVERSE TO HAVING, UM, A WALL IN THE LENGTH OF WHERE THE RYS FIRST SCHOOL IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, KIDS SEE THINGS AND, UH, THEY START TO TURNING IN THEIR HEADS.
THEY SEE A CHAIN LINK FENCE, THEY SEE WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE.
THE TEMPTATION IS TO GO THERE, WHERE IF YOU HAVE A WALL AND IT'S UNSEEN, UH, LESS LIKELY FOR THE CHILDREN TO GO IN THAT AREA AFTER SCHOOL OR WHENEVER THE CASE MAY BE, EVEN HOMELESS PEOPLE.
SO I, I WOULD NOT BE ADVERSE IN RECOMMENDING TO HAVE A, A WALL FOR THE ENTIRE LENGTH WHERE LITERARY FIRST SCHOOL IS.
WOULD YOU, WHEN WE MAKE A MOTION, WOULD YOU LIKE US TO ADD THAT IN? YES.
IF THE MOTION MAKER WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE RESOLUTION, UH, THE MOTION SHOULD REFLECT, UH, THAT, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS RECOMMENDING A SEVEN FOOT MASONRY WALL FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE SLY PROPERTY LINE.
AND THEN IF YOU COULD FURTHER CLARIFY, IF THAT'S ACROSS THE ENTIRETY, UH, ENTIRE PROPERTY LINE OR JUST EXCLUSIVE OF THOSE AREAS WHERE BUILDINGS ARE NOT PRESENT ON THE PROPERTY LINE.
UM, MASONRY WALL, ROD, IRON, UH, IS, IS, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE, I DON'T WANT TO DELVE INTO THE COST THING, BUT ARE WE JUST SAYING A NEW BARRIER OF SOME TYPE? OR DO WE WANNA BE SPECIFIC ON THAT? A WALL, A WALL PROVIDES THAT, UH, OUT OF SIGHT, OUT OF MIND FOR THE KIDS, RIGHT? YEAH, EXACTLY.
A A A RAW IRON, YOU STILL SEE IT
IF YOU'RE SKINNY ENOUGH, YOU CAN GET THROUGH IT.
IF YOU'RE SKINNY ENOUGH OR TALENTED ENOUGH, YOU CAN CLIMB IT.
WELL, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? WANNA TAKE A CRACK AT IT? I'LL MAKE THE MOTION TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTIONS IN ORDER APPROVING THE C Q EXEMPTION AND C P NUMBER 2 2 20 22 0 1 5 SUBJECT CONDITIONS WITH THE ADDENDUM THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION FEELS THE SOUTHERN PROPERTY LINE SHOULD
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HAVE A SEVEN FOOT MASONRY WALL.MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ERCO, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SOT PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL SEE THIS ONE COME TO, COME TO FRUITION.
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ALL RIGHT.THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE EAST COUNTY CREMATORIUM.
IT IS A REQUEST FOR CREMATORIUM.
IT IS C EQUA EXEMPT AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS DENY STAFF.
UH, SO AGAIN, THIS IS A REQUEST TO ESTABLISH A CREMATORIUM AT THOUSAND 34 NORTH MAGNOLIA AVENUE.
SO HERE IS AN AERIAL IMAGE OF THE SUBJECT SITE.
UH, THE SITE IS A TRIANGULAR SHAPED LOT THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 0.27 ACRES, OR ABOUT 12,000 SQUARE FEET.
UH, THE SITE DOES INCLUDE A TWO-STORY OFFICE BUILDING WITH ON-SITE PARKING.
UM, SURROUNDING USES INCLUDE HOME DEPOT TO THE WEST HAMPTON INN SUITES AND OTHER COMMERCIAL USES TO THE SOUTH.
UH, TO THE EAST IS STATE ROUTE 67, AND THEN TO THE NORTH ARE INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES.
SO THE PROJECT DOES PROPOSE TO EXPAND THE EXISTING BUILDING AT 10 34 NORTH MAGNOLIA AVENUE, AND THEN TO PERFORM CREMATION SERVICES AND FUNERALS WITHIN THE EXPANDED BUILDING.
UH, THE EXPANDED BUILDING, UH, WILL INCLUDE AREAS FOR ONSITE CREMATION, FUNERALS AND VIEWINGS IN ADDITION TO A LOBBY MEETING ROOM AND A CARETAKER'S UNIT.
SO, UH, THE SITE PLAN AS DEPICTED HERE, UM, SHOWS THE EXISTING CONDITION ON THE LEFT WITH THE BUILDING IN WHITE, AND THEN THE PARKING BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND, UH, COOGAN WAY TO THE NORTH.
AND THEN YOU HAVE, UH, ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THAT, UM, THE PROPOSED ADDITIONS TO THE BUILDING, WHICH ARE SHOWN IN GRAY.
UM, AND THEN NEW LANDSCAPING ALONG MAGNOLIA AVENUE.
UH, THE PROPOSED BUILDING ELEVATIONS ARE SHOWN HERE.
UH, THE NORTH ELEVATION AT THE TOP, UH, WOULD BE ILLUSTRATING THE ENTRANCE, AND THEN THE EAST ELEVATION BELOW IT, UH, WOULD BE FACING NORTH MAGNOLIA AVENUE AND STATE ROUTE 67.
UH, THE SOUTH ELEVATION IS AT THE TOP, UH, OF THIS IMAGE.
UH, AND IT WOULD FACE HAMPTON IN AND SUITES.
AND THEN, UH, THE LOWER IMAGE WOULD BE THE WEST ELEVATION THAT WOULD BE ORIENTED TOWARDS THE HOME DEPOT PARKING LOT.
SO THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION FOR THE SITE IS REGIONAL COMMERCIAL, AND MUCH OF THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT, I THINK WILL BE RELATED TO GENERAL PLAN CONSISTENCY.
UM, AS SHOWN HERE, UH, GOAL NINE DOES INDICATE THAT THE CITY SHALL RETAIN A STRONG, UH, COMMERCIAL BASE, INCLUDING PARKWAY PLAZA, AND THAT CONFLICTS WITH RESIDENTIAL OR SENSITIVE USES, UH, NEED TO BE MINIMIZED.
ADDITIONALLY, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, UH, GOAL 13 OF THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE ASSOCIATED POLICIES WHICH SEEK TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN REGIONAL USERS.
UM, I THINK OVERALL STAFF'S CONCERN IS THAT THE CREMATORIUM WILL BE VISIBLE FROM HAMPTON INN SUITES, AND TRAVELERS OR VISITORS MAY HAVE A NEGATIVE PERCEPTION OF THE USE AND COULD POTENTIALLY CHOOSE TO STAY AT A DIFFERENT LOCATION WHEN TRAVELING TO THE REGION IN THE FUTURE.
ADDITIONALLY, UH, THE SUBJECT SITE WOULD BE, UH, VERY, WOULD BE PROMINENT AND VISIBLE FROM STATE ROUTE 67, AS WELL AS THE OFF RAMPS FROM STATE ROUTE 67, UH, UH, USING THOSE SOUTHBOUND LANES, UH, TO, UH, ACCESS PARKWAY PLAZA, AS WELL AS THE CITY'S DOWNTOWN.
OVERALL ONGOING CITY EFFORTS TO ATTRACT ADDITIONAL INVESTMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT AT PARKWAY PLAZA SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL CENTERS.
AND THE CITY'S DOWNTOWN COULD BE HINDERED IF THE CREMATORIUM IS APPROVED IN A LOCATION THAT REALLY SERVES AS A GATEWAY, UH, TO THE CITY'S REGIONAL ASSETS.
SO IN ORDER TO APPROVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, THE PLANNING MISSION WILL NEED TO MAKE THE FINDINGS SHOWN ON THIS SLIDE.
UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO DENIAL, UH, WAS BECAUSE, UH, STAFF WASN'T ABLE TO MAKE THE FINDING OF GENERAL PLAN CONSISTENCY, UH, BECAUSE THE POT, THE USE COULD POTENTIALLY NEGATIVELY IMPACT EFFORTS TO ATTRACT NEW BUSINESSES BASED ON THE LOCATION AND THE VISIBILITY FROM THE FREEWAY.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, STAFF WAS CONCERNED ABOUT COMPATIBILITY BASED ON THE PROXIMITY OF THE USE TO PARKWAY PLAZA, AND AS AN ENTRANCE POINT TO THE CITY.
UM, STAFF DID WANT TO NOTE, UH, THAT WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE APPLICANT AND THE PROJECT DOES COMPLY WITH, UH, ZONING AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
BUT ULTIMATELY, STAFF'S CONCLUSION IS THAT THE USE WOULD BE BETTER SUITED IN AN AREA THAT IS NOT IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO REGIONAL COMMERCIAL USES AND EMPLOYMENT CENTERS.
UM, SO SOMEWHERE BETTER SUITED IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE IN, IN NOT SUCH A PROMINENT LOCATION.
UM, FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, UH, STAFF DID RECEIVE A PHONE CALL FROM THE OWNER OF HAMPTON INN SUITES.
UM, DURING THE PHONE CALL, HE EXPRESSED OPPOSITION, UH, TO THE REQUEST, UH, BUT DIDN'T PROVIDE ANY WRITTEN DOCUMENTATION.
UM, STAFF DID RECEIVE A LETTER FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER OF THE, UM, STRIP COMMERCIAL MALL THAT INCLUDES THE URBANE CAFE AND
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DAVE'S HOT CHICKEN.UM, IN THAT LETTER THAT THAT'S ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT, THEY INDICATE, UH, THAT THEY BELIEVE THE PRESENCE OF THE CREMATORIUM WOULD IMPEDE THEIR ABILITY TO ATTRACT HIGH QUALITY TENANTS TO THE AREA.
UH, THE PROJECT DOES QUALIFY FOR AN EXEMPTION FROM C EQUA, AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION IN ORDER, UH, DENYING THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT DUE TO THE COMPATIBILITY ISSUES THAT STAFF DESCRIBED, AS WELL AS THOSE GENERAL PLAN GOALS.
UM, THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UH, IN SO FAR, SIGNAGE IS, IN SO FAR SIGNAGE IS CONS, UH, CONCERNED.
WHAT TYPE OF SIGN WERE THEY INTENDING TO PUT ON THE BUILDING? UM, THE APPLICANTS PRESENT IN THE AUDIENCE, UM, UH, FROM THE DRAWINGS THAT BEEN PRESENTED TO STAFF, UH, THEY ONLY HAVE, UH, BUILDING WALL SIGNAGE AT THIS POINT.
UH, BUT AS A REGIONAL COMMERCIAL, HE OWNED PROPERTY, THEY WOULD QUALIFY, UH, FOR, UM, A POLL SIGN AND A MONUMENT SIGN.
WOULD THE FUNERALS BE PERFORMED THERE ON THE PREMISES? YES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY CLARIFY ONE THING JUST ON THE FUNERAL QUESTION.
UM, THE ONE, UM, NUANCE IN THIS DISCUSSION IS THAT THE FUNERAL, UH, PARLOR IS A PERMITTED USE IN THE REGIONAL COMMERCIAL ZONE.
UM, IT'S THE CREMATORIUM ASPECT OF THE REQUEST, UH, THAT ELEVATES IT TO A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
SO IT'S REALLY ONLY THE, UM, THE BURNING OF HUMAN REMAINS, UH, THAT REQUIRES THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
SO IF THE APPLICANT CAME FORWARD AND PROPOSED, UM, JUST A FUNERAL PARLOR THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED BY.
WHAT ABOUT PARKING? SO PARKING, UH, OVERALL IS BASED ON SIMILAR USES IN THE, UM, IN THE ZONING CODE.
AND SO WE WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT, UM, ORIGINALLY THEY HAD PROPOSED SOME OFFICE SPACE ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
UH, THEY MODIFIED THAT TO BE A CARETAKER'S UNIT, AND THEN THEY MODIFIED SOME OF THEIR INTERIOR DESIGN SO THAT THEY WOULD HAVE SUFFICIENT ON-SITE PARKING BASED ON THEIR LOBBY, SMALL MEETING ROOM, AND THEN THE, UH, AREA OF OBSERVATION.
AND RE UH, REGARDING FUNERAL POSSESSIONS AND THINGS OF THAT SORT, UH, SINCE, UH, THE BODY'S BEING, UM, CREMATED MM-HMM.
UM, I MEAN, IT'S CERTAINLY REASONABLE TO ASSUME THAT THAT WOULD OCCUR.
UM, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, THOSE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES WOULD BE ALLOWED TO OCCUR, UM, JUST BECAUSE, UH, THOSE INDIVIDUALS HAVE, UH, THE ABILITY TO ACCESS THE PUBLIC STREET.
UM, BUT, BUT OVERALL, AS A FUNERAL POLLER AS A PERMITTED USE, UM, THERE WOULD BE NO REGULATION OF THAT BY THE CITY.
WELL, IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC HEARING.
DO WE HAVE SOME SPEAKER CARDS? YES, WE DO.
FIRST ONE I HAVE IS MICHAEL AGUILAR.
UH, I HAVE A PRESENTATION AND, UH, OR AT LEAST JUST SOME PICTURES, AND I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO, UH, UH, DISPLAY THOSE OR SHARE THOSE.
HAVE YOU WORKED ANYTHING OUT WITH OUR TECH, OUR TECHNICIAN THERE? WE CAN SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.
SO WE HAVE AN HG MIC CABLE AVAILABLE, SO, OKAY.
COMPUTER, IF I CAN RIGHT OVER HERE, IF I CAN DO THAT.
I AM A PROJECT MANAGER WITH K G.
WE'RE THE DEVELOPMENT GROUP THAT IS, UH, BEEN TAKEN ON.
AND, UH, WITH, UH, MR. ZAR AS A CONSULTANT TO THIS PROJECT.
UH, WE SUBMITTED AS THE APPLICATION.
AND, UH, I'M HERE TO PRESENT, UH, A FEW ISSUES WITH REGARDS TO THE REPORT THAT STAFF, THE CITY STAFF, UM, PRESENTED AND, AND ALSO, UH, SOME PICTURES AND RENDERINGS THAT WERE NOT ORIGINALLY IN THE, THE PACKAGE.
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THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, SPEAK TO YOU HERE.UM, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH, UH, A FEW ITEMS, LIKE I SAID, THAT WERE IN THE STAFF REPORT.
UM, ALSO SHOW, UH, OTHER, UH, DEVELOPMENTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO.
AND THEN, UH, AFTER MYSELF, WE'LL HAVE, UH, BOTH THE MANUFACTURER OF THE CREMATORIUM, UH, EQUIPMENT AND, UH, MR. ZARA HIMSELF AND OTHER SUPPORTERS, I BELIEVE.
SO AS I START HERE, UM, THE, ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE MENTIONED IN THE REPORT WAS THAT THERE WAS 13, UH, UH, CREMATORIUMS WITHIN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.
UM, I'D LIKE TO NOTE THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A CORRECTION WITH REGARDS TO THAT.
UH, OF THE 13 FOUR, THOSE ARE PET CREMATORIUMS. AND THEN, UH, THREE OF THOSE ARE NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, THOSE OF US, UH, U C S D, UH, US GENERAL SERVICES NEAR THE DATI BORDER.
AND, UM, THERE IS ANOTHER, UH, UH, UH, CREMATORIUM SERVICES BY AGEN CORPORATION FOR IMPLANTS.
SO THE REMAINING SIX, UH, CREMATORIUMS THROUGHOUT SAN DIEGO COUNTY, UH, ARE CURRENTLY SERVING, UH, APPROXIMATELY OVER TH 3 MILLION PEOPLE WITHIN, UH, THE COUNTY.
AND OF THOSE, UH, WE HAVE, UH, AAA, CRE CREMATIONS, UH, CREMATION SERVICES.
UH, UH, AAA IS IN, UH, NATIONAL CITY CREMATION SERVICES IN INVISTA.
AND, UM, CYPRESS VIEW CREMATORIES IN SAN DIEGO, ETERNAL HILLS CREMATORY ASSOCIATIONS IN OCEANSIDE, UH, AND GREENWOOD MEMORIAL PARK IN SAN DIEGO AND LA VISTA MEMORIAL PARK, ALSO IN NATIONAL CITY, UH, VERY CLOSE TO, UH, THE GREENWOOD, UH, MEMORIAL PARK AREA.
AND SO, UH, THE CURRENTLY, THE CLOSEST TO, UH, THE CITY OF, UH, UH, EL CAJON WOULD BE THE, UH, GREENWOOD IN LA VISTA MEMORIAL AREA FOR, UH, THE RESIDENTS OF THE, THE CITY OF EL CAJON TO HAVE THEIR, UH, LOVED ONES, UH, CREMATED.
AND SO, UM, AS IT IS, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE OVER 3 MILLION PEOPLE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY, AND ONLY SIX, UH, HOW THAT COMPARES TO OTHER COUNTIES.
THERE'S, UH, QUITE A BIT MORE, UH, CREMATORIUMS PER CAPITA IN BOTH, UH, UH, LA COUNTY, UH, ORANGE COUNTY, RIVERSIDE COUNTY, AND SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY.
UM, STAFF HAD MENTIONED THAT THERE WERE, UH, ISSUES WITH REGARDS TO, UM, THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE SPECIFIC PLAN, AND WITH REGARDS TO, UH, POTENTIAL HINDRANCE OF DEVELOPMENT WITHIN THE, UH, PROPOSED AREA.
SO I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THAT WITH REGARDS TO THESE, UH, EXISTING SIX CREMATORIUMS WITHIN THE COUNTY AND THE DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATED AROUND THOSE SINCE THEY CAME IN SERVICE.
AND THEN HOW, UH, YOUR TIME'S EXPIRED.
I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU SOME MORE TIME.
HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU THINK? SO WE CAN SET THE CLOCK.
SO HERE WE HAVE, UH, AAA, UH, CREMATORIUM, UH, WHEN IT WAS FIRST, UH, PUT INTO, UH, SERVICE IN 2016.
AND YOU CAN SEE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA.
UM, DON'T WANT TO GO INTO THE DETAILS, BUT YOU KNOW, OF COURSE WE HAVE, UH, I, I BELIEVE IT'S A, UH, WALMART AND, UH, BEST BUY AND A, A FEW OTHER, UH, WELL-DEVELOPED, UM, BUSINESSES.
THIS IS IN 2023, AND NONE OF THE BUSINESSES HAVE HAVE CHANGED.
THEY WERE ALL THERE AND STILL THRIVING.
UM, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS, UH, BUSINESS PARK WHERE THE ACTUAL, UH, CREMATORIUM IS, IS, UH, 90% PLUS, UH, OCCUPIED AND HAS NOT HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH REGARDS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, CREMATORIUMS BEING WITHIN THEIR, UH, FACILITIES.
UH, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SITE IS, UH, CREMATORIUM SERVICES IN, UH, THEY BECAME IN SERVICE IN 1996, AND, UH, THEY'RE HERE IN THE CENTER OF THE PAGE.
UM, AND THERE WAS PLENTY OF DEVELOPMENT GOING ON IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, AND HERE IN 2021 THAT THO THOSE BUSINESSES ARE STILL IN SERVICE AND CONTINUING TO THRIVE ALL WITHIN, UH, THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
GREENWOOD, UH, ACTUALLY THIS IS GREENWOOD, THIS IS MEANT FOR THE CYPRESS VIEW, WHICH IS HERE.
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GREENWOOD IS, IS OF COURSE, THIS LARGER AREA.AND OVER HERE WE HAVE, UH, UH, LA FITNESS AND A FEW OTHER, UH, BUSINESSES AND DEVELOPMENTS, UH, RUBIO'S, UH, TACOS AND SUCH.
AND THESE ARE ALL BUSINESSES THAT WERE IN SERVICE WHEN THIS CAME INTO SERVICE IN 2021.
AND, UH, THEY STILL ARE IN SERVICE TODAY.
THEY'VE, UH, OF COURSE REPAVED THEIR, UH, THEIR PARKING LOT BECAUSE IT'S MUCH DARKER, SO THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE AND THEY'RE THRIVING.
UH, NEXT BUSINESS IS, UH, EL EL CAMINO REAL OVER IN OCEANSIDE, AND THEY'RE LOCATED APPROXIMATELY HERE WHERE THE R IS.
AND WE HAVE BUSINESSES THAT, UH, WHEN THEY FIRST CAME INTO, INTO PLAY BACK IN 86 AS AS A, UH, MORTUARY, THERE WERE SEVERAL BUS, SEVERAL VACANT LOTS THROUGH HERE.
AND SINCE THEN, UM, WE SHOW FULL DEVELOPMENT THROUGH ALL THIS, THROUGH EL CAMINO RAL AND, AND THE BUSINESS IN THE AREA SURROUNDING, UH, MOVING ON TO THE NEXT, OH, THIS IS THE SAME AREA NOW AS IT IS TODAY, BECAUSE THE, THE, THE MORTUARY WAS IN SERVICE EARLIER AND THEN BECAME, UH, AND THEN THEY ADDED THE CREMATORIUM.
AND IN 2020, UH, 1, 20 22, IT'S, IT'S STILL THRIVING THERE, THERE'S STILL MORE BUSINESSES THERE, AND THERE'S NO ISSUE OR HINDRANCE TO THOSE PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENTS.
UH, MOVING ON TO IMPERIAL, IMPERIAL AVENUE, UH, THIS IS THE, UH, GREENWOOD BASICALLY, UH, WHEN IT CAME INTO SERVICE BACK IN 19, I THINK IT'S 48, THE EARLIEST I CAN GET WAS 53.
UH, THAT WAS PRIOR TO THE DEVELOPMENT THAT OCCURRED HERE ALONG THAT SIDE.
THAT'S, UH, THAT LARGE DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU SAW IN THE PREVIOUS SCREEN HERE.
AND OF COURSE, THIS IS WHEN, UH, IN 2020, UH, OH FOUR IS WHEN THE CREMATORIUM WENT INTO SERVICE AT GREENWOOD.
AND WE HAVE, OF COURSE, THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS IN PLACE HERE.
AND I THINK AS, AS I SHOWED YOU IN THE OTHER, UH, SCREEN FOR THE OTHER CREMATORIUM THAT'S IN GENERAL AREA, UH, CONTINUES TO THRIVE THIS BUSINESS.
THIS IS, UH, LA VISTA MEMORIAL.
AND THIS JUST SHOWS, UH, THE COMPATIBILITY WITH THIS, UH, CREMATORIUM BEING WITHIN A, A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
UM, IT, UH, AS COURSE BACK IN, IN THIS TIME IN 2021, UM, THEY CONTINUE TO, YOU KNOW, NOT BE AN ISSUE OR A THREAT TO DEVELOPMENT.
UH, THERE'S, THE HOUSES HERE HAVE ALL, HAVE ALL STAYED.
THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO CHANGE OR, OR, UH, REMOVAL OR MOVING OUT OF HOUSES.
UM, MOVING ON TO THE, THE NEXT ITEM THAT I WANTED TO DISCUSS IN SHOWING HOW, UH, DIFFERENT RENDERINGS THAT WEREN'T IN THE ORIGINAL PACKAGE IS JUST WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE FROM COOGAN WAY.
THAT'S FROM, UH, THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY LOOKING SOUTH.
AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, MENTIONED FROM, UH, HIGHWAY 67 LOOKING OVER TOWARDS THE WEST, WHAT THE, WHAT THE PROPERTY WOULD LOOK LIKE.
UM, OF COURSE, THERE'S NO SIGNS THERE.
THERE'S AS MENTIONED OF THE WALL SIGN ON THE SIDE, IF I MAY, UH, UH, THAT'S ANOTHER VIEW OF YOU FROM THE BACKSIDE.
I KNOW MY TIME IS, UH, CLOSE TO BEING OUT HERE.
UH, THERE IS ANOTHER VIEW THAT I HAD THAT NOTED.
THE, UH, OH, THE, IF YOU DON'T MIND GOING BACK TO THE LAST ONE, THE, THE ONE THAT HAD THE SIGN ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS THERE THAT I KNOW ONE OF THE, THE COMMISSIONERS HAD MENTIONED, UH, WHAT, WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
SO IT'S SIMILAR TO, TO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
AND, UH, LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I WANTED TO MENTION THAT, UH, I KNOW THIS AREA'S BEEN, UH, AN, UH, A PROBLEM WITH HOMELESS.
UH, MY PREVIOUS JOB WAS WITH THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO AS A PROJECT MANAGER FOR, UH, FOR OVER 10 YEARS.
AND SO I'M AWARE OF THE PROJECT, THE, THE ISSUES WITH HOMELESS, UH, ESPECIALLY UNDER THE GREENFIELD BRIDGE, AS YOU KNOW, TO ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, UH, WE HAD A PROJECT TO, UH, PUT IN FENCING AROUND THAT.
AND I KNOW THE CITY ALSO, UH, HAD A PROJECT ALONG MAGNOLIA JUST NORTH OF HERE, UH, ELIMINATING SIDEWALK AS WELL.
SO, UH, AS IT STANDS, THERE'S BEEN A HOMELESS PROBLEM THROUGH HERE, BUT HAVING THIS PROJECT, UH, MOVING FORWARD AND DEVELOPED WOULD ALLOW
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FOR, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, WOULD BASICALLY KEEP THE HOMELESS OUT.THERE'D BE SOMEBODY OCCUPIED HERE.
AND, UH, WE APPRECIATE, UH, YOUR VOTE FOR THIS.
ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU FOR THOSE RENDERINGS.
THAT KIND OF GAVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE PERSPECTIVE ON THE BUILDING.
NEXT SPEAKER CARD, THE ERNIE CASTOR.
I'M THE NATIONAL SALES MANAGER FOR FACULTY ACHIEVE TECHNOLOGIES.
WE ARE A MANUFACTURER OF CREMATION EQUIPMENT.
WE MANUFACTURE THE EQUIPMENT IN MEDINA, OHIO, WHICH IS RIGHT OUTSIDE OF CLEVELAND.
WE ALSO MANUFACTURE IN LEADS ENGLAND.
WE'RE AN INTERNATIONAL COMPANY BASED OUT OF THE HAGUE.
UH, THE QUESTIONS THAT, THAT I LOOKED AT THAT WERE BROUGHT UP BY, BY THE COMMISSION HERE WAS THAT THEY WERE, THE CONCERNS WERE NOISE, UH, EMISSIONS, ODORS, AND VIBRATION.
SO A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR COMPANY.
WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE 1874, BUILDING OUR FIRST CREMATION MACHINES IN 1906.
UH, WE HAVE, WE ARE, NO, WE'RE KNOWN AS THE GLOBAL LEADER IN TECHNOLOGY.
UH, WE BUILD A CREMATOR, NOT A MODIFIED INCINERATOR.
I NOTICED ONE OF THE THINGS IN YOUR PACKAGE, YOU SAID CREMATOR SLASH INCINERATOR.
WE DO NOT MAKE AN INCINERATOR.
UM, AS FAR AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SMOKE, OUR MACHINE IS BUILT WITH OXYGEN SENSING SYSTEMS. UH, IT'S VERY, VERY HIGHLY CONTROLLED.
SO WE CONTROL THE OXYGEN LEVEL.
SMOKE ONLY OCCURS IN CREMATION FOR TWO REASONS.
NUMBER ONE, IT'S, IT'S AN INCOMPLETE CREMATION, AND YOU DO NOT HAVE TEMPERATURE, THE OXYGEN AND THE TURBULENCE WITHIN THE CREMATOR.
SO YOU'D ONLY GET SMOKE IF YOU GET BELOW 3%.
OUR MACHINE IS BUILT WITH A DEFAULT OF 5%, AND AT THAT POINT, WE INJECT MORE AIR.
YOU INJECT MORE AIR, YOU DON'T GET SMOKE, YOU WOULD PROBABLY ASK, WELL, WE WILL EVER SMOKE.
THE MACHINE IS NOT, IF IT'S OPERATED CORRECTLY, SHOULD NOT SMOKE UNLESS WE LOSE ELECTRICITY.
IF YOU TRY STOPPING YOUR CAR AND THE BRAKE LINE IS BROKEN, SAME ISSUE.
AS FAR AS ODORS, WE'VE BEEN TESTED BY VARIOUS ODOR TESTING COMPANIES, AND WE'VE COME IN BELOW, MASSIVELY, BELOW ANY OTHER, UH, MANUFACTURER IN THE WORLD NEVER HAD AN ISSUE WITH ODORS, BASICALLY.
AND I SAW THE, THE PEOPLE FROM, FROM THE HAMPTON INN, AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT I AM A, A HILTON DIAMOND HONORS.
I SPEND ABOUT 250 NIGHTS IN, IN HILTON PROPERTIES, INCLUDING HAMPTON INNS, AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA EVEN KNOW THAT IT'S THERE.
UH, WITH OUR CREMATION SYSTEM, THERE'S NO SMOKE, THERE'S NO ORDER.
THIS DECIBEL LEVEL FROM THE MACHINE IS LESS THAN 65 DB WITHIN THREE FEET OF THE MACHINE, SO YOU'D NEVER HEAR ANY NOISE.
AND AS FAR AS VIBRATION, THERE'S NO VIBRATION.
THE ONLY MOVING PARTS IN IT ARE A COUPLE OF ELECTRIC MOTORS AND A BURNER.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I CAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S TECHNOLOGY.
OUR TECHNOLOGY'S ABOUT 20 YEARS AHEAD OF ANY OTHER MANUFACTURER IN NORTH AMERICA.
UM, WHAT ABOUT POLLUTION? POLLUTION CONTROLS? OKAY, SO WE ARE MANDATED BY NOT ONLY THE NATIONAL EPA, BUT BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
AND SO WE HAVE TO GET A PERMIT.
OUR MACHINES HAVE BEEN TESTED, STACK TESTED, AND WE STACK TEST ABOUT 15 MACHINES A YEAR.
AND WE ARE ABOUT 70% BELOW THE EMISSIONS RATE THAT IS ALLOWED.
SO I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY SOME OF THE, I'LL TELL THEM, I HAD A MEETING WITH THE MINISTRY OF OF ENVIRONMENT IN UP IN TORONTO, CANADA.
HE SAYS, LET'S GO TALK BY THE STACK, BECAUSE THE AIR THERE IS CLEANER THAN THE AIR OUT HERE BY THE STREET.
THE EMISSIONS THAT COME OUT OF YOUR CHICK-FIL-A'S AND YOUR IN AND OUT BURGERS WITH THE CAR SITTING THE LINE ARE ABOUT 50 TIMES HIGHER THAN WHAT WE COULD DO IN A YEAR IN CREMATIONS.
SO WE, ONE THING THAT WE DO IS THE, THE CALIFORNIA LAW SAYS YOU MUST HAVE ABOUT ONE SECOND
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RETENTION TIME SECONDARY CHAMBER.AND IN THE SECONDARY CHAMBER, THAT'S WHERE THE POLLUTANTS ARE DILUTED.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE IS THE SOLUTION TO POLLUTION IS DILUTION.
SO OUR SECONDARY CHAMBER IS A MINIMUM TWO SECOND CHAMBER, AND WE, WE DEVELOP OUR OWN DRAFT THROUGH THE SYSTEM.
NOBODY ELSE IN THE INDUSTRY HAS THAT.
SO WE CAN KEEP THE EMISSIONS WITHIN THE MACHINE FOR UP TO SIX SECONDS, AND WE CAN DESTROY THEM AND DILUTE THEM.
SO OUR EMISSIONS ARE LOWER THAN ANYBODY ELSE'S, UH, PARTICULAR MATTER, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THAT.
SO WE, IT'S, WE'RE, WE'RE CONTROLLED AND WE ARE TESTED BY THE AGENCIES THROUGHOUT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF CALIFORNIA.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT BAY AREA IS PROBABLY THE WORST.
UH, AND HOW, HOW IS IT DILUTED THROUGH, THROUGH FLAME? THE FLAME BURN IT.
AGAIN, YOU'RE BURN, YOU'RE RE BURNING THEM IN THE SECONDARY CHAMBER.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A SECONDARY CHAMBER, LIKE A CATHOLIC CONVERTER, SOMETHING OF THAT SORT.
I'M SORRY, LIKE A CADILLAC CONVERTER.
UH, ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU IS, UH, I HEARD, I THINK THIS MIGHT BE A WISE TALE, THAT WHEN THERE A CREMATION OCCURS, THERE'S SOMETIMES THERE ARE WHOLE BONES LEFT OVER THEY, OKAY.
SO IF A CREMATION IS DONE PROPERLY, UHHUH
SO THEY KNOW THAT THAT WAS FROM CREMATION.
THEY ALSO KNOW THAT THERE WAS DNA BECAUSE THEY COULD, THEY COULD, UM, CARBON TEST THOSE THAT WHAT YEAR IT CAME FROM.
RIGHT? BASICALLY, IF A CREMATION IS DONE RIGHT, THERE IS NO DNA, THERE'S NO CARBON LEFT, SO THERE'S NO BONES LEFT.
WHAT IT, WHAT IT IS, IT IS REMAINS.
THERE'S, THERE'S SMALL BONE PIECES ARE, YOU KNOW, THAT ARE THERE AND THEY'RE TAKEN OUT OF THE MACHINE.
THEY'RE COOLED AND THEY'RE PUT INTO WHAT THEY CALL PROCESSING SYSTEM, WHERE THEY'RE GROUND UP INTO, INTO ALMOST LIKE THE SIZE OF KITTY LITTER.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S RETURNED TO THE FAMILY TO BE EITHER PUT INTO A CEMETERY OR TAKEN HOME IN AN EARNER, WHATEVER THEY WANT TO DO WITH IT, BUT WITH, UH, REMAINS.
THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION.
I THINK, UH, A FEW YEARS BACK I ASKED SOMEONE A SIMILAR QUESTION.
WHAT IS THE FAILSAFE ON YOUR MACHINE? WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THE FAIL SAFE? S SAY SOMETHING GOES WRONG, IT DOESN'T COMPLETELY COMBUST.
IF IT DOESN'T COMPLETELY, IT GOES, THE MACHINE WILL GO IN INTO A SAFETY MODE.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S THE SAME THING.
WHAT HAPPENS IF THE COMPUTER GOES OUT ON YOUR CAR? YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU DO? IT HA DOES HAVE MANUAL OVERRIDES ON IT.
SO WE DO HAVE MANUAL, BUT THE MACHINE IS TOTALLY CONTROLLED WITH PLC CONTROLS AND A COMPUTER SYSTEM.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE'VE GOT OVER 250 MACHINES THROUGHOUT THE US.
WE'VE BEEN IN THE US SINCE 2006, AND WE'VE GOT THEM, WE'VE GOT ABOUT 45 MACHINES IN CALIFORNIA, THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA.
WE HAVE NEVER HAD AN EPA REPORT FILED AGAINST US FOR SMOKE OR ODORS.
UM, IT'S JUST A VERY CLEAN AND VERY TECHNICALLY ADVANCED MACHINES.
I MEAN, WE, WE OWN AND OPERATE OUR OWN CREMATORIES IN EUROPE.
WE TESTED A NEW MATERIAL REFRACTORY FOR THE INTERIOR OF THE MACHINES.
WE INTRODUCED IT TO THE US LAST FEBRUARY, THIS PAST FEBRUARY.
SO WE TEST EVERYTHING VERY, VERY HARD.
OUR MACHINES ARE HOOKED UP ON THE INTERNET.
WHEN THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH THE MACHINE, IT SENDS AN INSTANT EMAIL AND TEXT MESSAGE TO OUR, TO OUR CUSTOMER CARE CENTERS.
WE HAVE SIX OF THEM THROUGHOUT THE US AND THEY'RE NORMALLY ANSWERED WITHIN THREE OR FOUR MINUTES.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ISSUES WITH THAT.
OUR MACHINES ARE, LIKE I SAID, ARE TIED IN THE INTERNET, AND IT SENDS NOT ONLY TO SEND A MESSAGE TO OUR PEOPLE, BUT IT SENDS IT TO THE OWNER OF THE COMPANY.
SAY, HEY, THERE'S, THERE'S AN ISSUE.
ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? UH, YES.
I'M THE HUMAN RESOURCE MANAGER AT FOOTHILLS CHRISTIAN CHURCH.
I'M ALSO A PAST CRISIS TEAM MANAGER FOR THE TRAUMA INTERVENTION PROGRAMS. THE ONLY REASON I TOLD YOU ABOUT FOOTHILLS IS BECAUSE I HAVE A STORY FOR YOU AT THE END, IF I HAVE TIME.
BUT, UM, WHAT THE CRISIS, WHAT THE TRAUMA INTERVENTION PROGRAM IS, IS A GROUP OF VOLUNTEERS THAT GOES OUT CALLED
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BY THE FIRST RESPONDERS TO BE A LIAISON BETWEEN FAMILIES AND A FIRST RESPONDER, AND A ME, UH, MEDICAL EXAMINER AND A MORTUARY WHEN A DEATH OCCURS IN A HOME UNEXPECTEDLY.SO WE COME IN, I, I PERSONALLY HAVE BEEN IN, UM, OVER 200 HOMES HELPING FAMILIES WHEN A DEATH OCCURS IN A HOME.
SO I'VE KNOWN ROBERT OVER NINE YEARS.
I HAVE BEEN, I'VE WORKED WITH, UH, EAST COUNTY MORTUARY FOR MANY YEARS.
UM, SO MY STORY HERE IS ABOUT HIM PERSONALLY MORE THAN WHAT KIND OF BUILDING THIS IS GONNA BE.
THIS IS A MAN WHO, UH, DOES WHAT HE SAYS HE IS GONNA DO.
IF SOMEBODY COMES TO HIM WITH A LOVED ONE, HE WILL DO EVERY WHATEVER IT TAKES TO HELP THAT FAMILY GET WHATEVER THEY NEED TO, UM, GET CLOSURE FOR THEM.
HE ALSO, THEY AL FAMILIES DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN THEY WANT A CREMATION FOR THEIR LOVED ONE, THAT THAT LOVED ONE IS NOT STAYING IN THAT MORTUARY.
THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THEIR LOVED ONE IS BEING SENT TO AN OUTSIDE PLACE AND THEN COMING BACK.
THAT THAT PERSON IS NOT IN ROBERT'S CARE THAT WHOLE TIME.
AND SOMETIMES THEY ASK THAT QUESTION, BUT MOST OF THE TIME THEY DON'T.
THEY JUST ASSUME THAT'S A BIG MISNOMER IN, IN THE WORLD THAT PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND.
AND IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THAT IN EAST COUNTY.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR FAMILIES TO KNOW THAT THEIR LOVED ONE IS BEING CARED FOR WITH THE PERSON THAT THEY CHOSE.
I'M SORRY, MY PHONE WENT DEAD.
ANYWAYS, UM, ROBERT'S THAT GUY, ROBERT IS THE PERSON WHO IS GOING TO DO WHAT HE SAYS HE IS GOING TO DO.
HE IS, UH, EXTREMELY ETHICAL PERSON.
HE IS SOMEBODY THAT'S THE KIND OF PERSON THAT WE WANT TO HAVE THIS KIND OF BUSINESS OUT HERE.
WE'VE ALL READ STORIES ABOUT, UM, MORTUARIES THAT HAVE DONE THINGS UNETHICALLY IN THE UNITED STATES.
IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MORE, UH, CREMATORY OUT HERE, THIS IS THE KIND OF PERSON THAT WE WANNA HAVE.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS LILLIAN SOTO.
UM, AND I LIVE IN CHULA VISTA.
UM, MY FAMILY AND I, UM, HAVE USED EAST, UM, COUNTY MORTUARY ON TWO SEPARATE OCCASIONS, UM, BACK IN 2019 WHEN MY MOTHER PASSED, AND AGAIN, LAST YEAR WHEN MY FATHER PASSED IN SEPTEMBER, UM, WHEN MY MOTHER PASSED, WE RESEARCHED MORTUARIES ONLINE AND, UM, GOT, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS OF FRIENDS, UM, THAT LED US TO EAST COUNTY MORTUARY.
UM, AT THE TIME, I WASN'T AWARE THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE CREMATORY ON SITE.
UM, I'VE NEVER HAD TO PLAN A SERVICE BEFORE MY MOTHER'S PASSING.
AND SO I DIDN'T EVEN THINK TO ASK.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW.
AND, UM, SO I'M ASSU I ASSUMED EVERYTHING WAS TAKEN CARE OF, UM, THERE AT THE MORTUARY.
AND LOOKING BACK, I'M GLAD I DIDN'T KNOW, UM, BECAUSE I WOULD'VE HAD, UM, I WOULD'VE BEEN MORE OF A MESS THAN I WAS AT THAT TIME.
UM, KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, MY MOTHER, MY MOTHER'S BODY WASN'T WHERE I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WAS, WAS BEING MOVED AROUND.
UM, WHEN MY FATHER PASSED, I KNEW I COULD TRUST EAST COUNTY MORTUARY ONCE AGAIN AND CALLED HIM TO HELP WITH MY FATHER'S SERVICE AND CREMATION.
I NEVER REALIZED THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING ALL THE SERVICES PROVIDED AT WE FACILITY UNTIL I HAD TO GO THROUGH IT MYSELF WITH MY FAMILY.
UM, THIS REALLY MAKES SUCH A DIFFERENCE.
AND, UM, HAD I NOT HAD THE COMPASSIONATE CARE THAT WE RECEIVED ON OUR FIRST EXPERIENCE, WE MIGHT, UM, HAVE PROBABLY LOOKED ELSEWHERE.
UM, I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE DOING THE COMMUNITY IN INJUSTICE BY NOT ALLOWING EAST COUNTY MORTUARY TO PROVIDE HIGH LEVEL OF CARE AND FAM AND KEEP FAMILIES, LOVED ONES WITH THEM TO COMPLETE THE CREMATION PROCESS.
ALTHOUGH I DO LIVE IN CHULA VISTA, I WOULD CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THIS HOME BASED FUNERAL HOME AND WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE, UM, THEY WOULD SOMEDAY BE ABLE TO CREMATE ON SITE.
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YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.ANY MORE SPEAKER CARDS? UH, YES.
UM, I HAVE ABOUT A MR. CHAIRMAN, SIX MINUTE.
BEFORE YOU START, A NUMBER OF, UH, THE CARDS INDICATE THAT THEY'RE SEATING THEIR TIME TO MR. JABBAR, SO, OKAY.
IT'S, IT'S HOW MANY CARDS? EXACTLY? THERE ARE FIVE CARDS ARE SAME NAME, I'M SORRY.
HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED? THANK YOU.
RIGHT AROUND, I GUESS, RIGHT AROUND NINE MINUTES.
I HAVE A, A SHORT VIDEO THAT I LIKE TO PLAY AT, AT THE END THAT KIND OF WILL HELP PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING.
UM, AND ABOUT SIX MINUTES OF, YOU KNOW, LISTENING TO ME TALK.
UNFORTUNATELY, I HEAR I TALK A LOT, UM, SO I'M, I'LL TORTURE YOU A LITTLE BIT,
UM, BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
UH, MY NAME IS JONATHAN JABBAR.
UM, LAST NAME IS SPELLED J A B AS IN BOY, O R O.
UH, I AM THE GENERAL MANAGER AT EAST COUNTY MORTUARY.
I'M OPEN WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, A QUOTE THAT I I REALLY LOVE FROM AN ANCIENT GREEK PHILOSOPHER, PLAY-DOH.
UM, AND HE SAYS, WE CAN FORGIVE A CHILD WHO'S AFRAID OF THE DARK.
BUT THE GREATEST TRAGEDY IN LIFE IS WHEN MAN IS AFRAID OF THE LIGHT.
AND, AND WHAT HE'S REFERENCING THERE IS THE FEAR, UH, THE FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN OFTENTIMES BLOCKS US FROM US SEEING THE LIGHT AND KNOWING THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY AND THERE'S POTENTIALLY A BETTER WAY AND, AND A BETTER PATH FOR US.
BUT AS HUMANS, BY NATURE, YOU KNOW, WE FALL INTO OUR COMFORT ZONE BECAUSE WE'RE AFRAID OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S TO COME, WHAT STEPS I HAVE TO TAKE AND, AND WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN ALONG THE WAY.
AND, AND DEATH IS NO DIFFERENT.
YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF RELIGION, FAITH, BELIEF, SPIRITUALITY, SCIENCE, WHAT YOU MIGHT BELIEVE IN, UM, ONE THING STANDS TRUE IS IT GOES BACK TO FAITH.
NOBODY TRULY KNOWS WHAT HAPPENS TO US WHEN WE DIE.
UH, AND, AND THAT'S A SCARY THOUGHT, WHICH IS WHY MOST PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO THINK ABOUT DEATH NOR SPEAK ON IT.
AND THAT LEAVES THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES ILL PREPARED.
UM, AND IT TRICKLES DOWN TO THEIR FAMILIES.
WHEN SOMEONE PASSES, YOU KNOW, LIKE, UM, ANTHONY NEVER QUITE KNEW THE ENTIRE PROCESS ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT TRULY CREMAINS OUR COMPOSED OF, BECAUSE NOBODY TALKS ABOUT IT.
MOST PEOPLE ARE AFRAID TO SPEAK OR ASK THOSE QUESTIONS, AND HERE WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO DO SO.
AND MRS. SOTO, UM, NEVER TRULY UNDERSTOOD THAT WE NEVER HAD A CREMATORY ON SITE.
AND, UM, THOSE ARE ALL QUESTIONS THAT OFTENTIMES FAMILIES ARE LEFT WITH.
UM, I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE LEFT WONDERING WHERE THEIR LOVED ONES ARE AT.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE PHONE CALLS THAT WE RECEIVE WITH PEOPLE PANICKING, SAYING, YOU KNOW, UH, MY UNCLE LIVES ON HIS OWN.
WE DON'T SPEAK SO FREQUENTLY, BUT HE'S BEEN MISSING FOR A FEW DAYS.
DO YOU HAVE HIM THERE? AND, AND I CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW MANY OTHER FUNERAL HOMES THEY MIGHT HAVE CALLED.
SO WE TAKE THE TIME TO BE A RESOURCE AND HELP GUIDE FAMILIES AND SAY, HEY, WELL, YOU KNOW, HAVE YOU TRIED CALLING THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S OFFICE? YOU KNOW, WE ALL WATCH MOVIES AND OFTENTIMES WE THINK THAT THE CORONER'S ALWAYS INVOLVED, CUZ YOU ALWAYS SEE THE CORONER'S BUS IN THE MOVIES, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE, RIGHT? IF WE DIE IN A HOSPITAL, YOU KNOW, THE FUNERAL HOME'S CONTACTED.
IF NOT, THEN YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME SORT OF ACCIDENT.
THEN OFTENTIMES MEDICAL EXAMINER'S THERE.
AND I SPEND A LOT OF TIME HOSTING EDUCATIONAL SEMINARS FOR THE COMMUNITY JUST SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU SHOULD BE DOING NEXT.
UM, IF I WASN'T IN THIS INDUSTRY OR HAD MY OWN EXPERIENCE WITH MY FATHER AND, AND I WERE TO PASS AWAY, YOU KNOW, MY WIFE WOULD BE A PERFECT EXAMPLE.
SHE'D PROBABLY CALL HER SISTER, AND HER SISTER WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO BECAUSE SHE'S NEVER PLANNED A FUNERAL.
AND SO IT'S LIKE THE BLIND LEADING THE BLIND.
UM, AND, AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT PEOPLE AREN'T EDUCATED AND DON'T TRULY KNOW WHAT'S TO COME.
ONE THING WE DO AT EAST COUNTY MORTUARY IS WE REALLY, UM, GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS WHERE WE HELP OUR LOCAL HOSPITALS.
YOU KNOW, WITH OVERFLOW SITUATIONS, WHEN FOLKS PASS AWAY, UM, THE HOSPITAL MORGUES, YOU KNOW, FILL UP RELATIVELY QUICKLY.
AND WHEN MORE PEOPLE PASS AWAY, THEY'RE LEFT IN THE ROOMS AND FAMILIES DON'T KNOW WHO TO CALL.
THEY MAY HAVE NEVER USED A FUNERAL HOME BEFORE IN THE PAST.
AND SO THEIR LOVED ONES ARE LEFT IN THE HOSPITAL MORGUE THAT CAN TAKE DAYS IN THE HOSPITAL WILL CALL ON US AND SAY, HEY, CAN YOU HELP? AND OF COURSE, OUR ANSWER'S ALWAYS YES.
AND WE, WE WANT TO GIVE EVERY FAMILY'S LOVED ONE A DIGNIFIED PLACE TO STAND.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE FAMILY CAN DECIDE ON WHAT
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DIRECTION THEY WANT TO MOVE IN AND, AND NO COST TO THE FAMILIES.IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
NOW, THE HOSPITALS NOTIFY THE FAMILY AND WHEN WE'RE THEIR FIRST CONTACT, YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES THEY GO, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE HOSPITAL TOLD US YOU WERE GONNA PICK THEM UP, WE WEREN'T VERY PLEASED.
WE DON'T WANT OUR LOVED ONE TO BE DISTURBED.
WE DON'T WANT THEM TO BE MOVED AROUND.
UM, AND, AND FROM A LARGER SCOPE OF THINGS, IF WE'VE NEVER GONE THROUGH IT, WE MIGHT NOT THINK HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS.
BUT WHEN EMOTIONS ARE AT A HALT ALL TIME HIGH, AND YOU LOSE SOMEONE YOU LOVE, EVERY DETAIL MATTERS.
YOU KNOW, FROM A STANDING SPRAY OF FLOWERS THAT ARE POINTING LEFT INSTEAD OF POINTING, RIGHT? THAT'S A BIG DEAL TO SOMEONE WHOSE EMOTIONS ARE HIGH, BECAUSE EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE PERFECT FOR THE PERSON THEY LOVE.
YOU KNOW, ONE MIGHT ARGUE WHY WE GET SO MANY PEOPLE THAT SEND BLANKETS WITH THEIR LOVED ONES TO KEEP THEM WARM WHILE THEY'RE IN OUR CARE.
THEY'VE PASSED AWAY WILL THEY FEEL COLD.
BUT TO THEM, IT OFFERS THEM COMFORT AND PEACE OF MIND.
SO THE LITTLE DETAILS THAT MOST OF US MAY NOT UNDERSTAND, TRULY MATTER FOR THOSE THAT LOST SOMEBODY.
AND IF YOU'VE LOST SOMEONE, THEN YOU PROBABLY UNDERSTAND.
AND IF YOU HAVEN'T, THEN I HOPE WHAT I'M SAYING HERE TODAY WILL ALLOW YOU TO, YOU KNOW, SYMPATHIZE A BIT WITH THOSE WHO HAVE NOW CLOSURES A BIG DEAL, UM, WITH BURIAL SERVICES.
WHEN SOMEONE COMES INTO OUR CARE, UM, THEY STAY IN OUR CARE AND WE MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN GOOD HANDS.
AND FOLKS IN TRUSTEES COUNTY MORTUARY WITH TAKING CARE OF THEIR LOVED ONES WITH CREMATION SERVICES, IT GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND JUST MOVING THE BODY FROM POINT A TO POINT B AND OFFERING THAT, YOU KNOW, DISCOMFORT.
AND, AND THAT THOUGHT THAT, WELL, WE KNOW EAST COUNTY'S TAKING CARE OF OUR LOVED ONE, BUT WHAT WILL THE CREMATORY STAFF BE DOING? WE DON'T KNOW.
UM, IT, WE'VE EVOLVED AS A COMMUNITY FROM DIRECT CREMATIONS WHERE FOLKS WANT TO HAVE THAT FIVE TO 10 MINUTES TO SAY THEIR FINAL GOODBYES.
WE CALL THAT AN ID VIEW, WHERE YOU'RE ABLE TO COME IN AND USUALLY IT'S IN GROUPS OF NO MORE THAN FIVE, 10 PEOPLE, MAYBE WITH BROTHERS, SISTERS, SOMETIMES A GRANDPARENT AND A UNCLE.
UM, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE ENVISION WE'RE GONNA BE UTILIZING THE NEW FACILITY FOR, IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FAMILIES TO COME IN AND SAY THEIR FINAL GOODBYES BEFORE THE CREMATION TAKES PLACE, AND KNOWING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO REMAIN INTO OUR CARE.
NOW, WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE'VE HAD PEOPLE PAY MORE MONEY, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ADVISING THEM THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARY TO PURCHASE A CREMATION CASKET BECAUSE THE THOUGHT OF THEIR LOVED ONE BEING DISTURBED BOTHERS THEM SO MUCH THAT THEY DON'T EVEN WANT THEM TO BE REMOVED OUT OF A RENTAL CASKET OR PLACED IN A DIFFERENT CONTAINER FOR THE CREMATION PROCESS TO TAKE PLACE.
SO AGAIN, IT'S THE LITTLE DETAILS THAT MATTER TO THESE FAMILIES, AND WE'RE ALL IN IT BECAUSE WE CARE.
I USED TO DRIVE BY THE SAME FUNERAL HOME, I'M BORN AND RAISED HERE IN EAST COUNTY AT SHARP GROSS MONT, WHEN IT WAS JUST GROSS MONT.
AND THESE BUILDINGS USED TO SPOOK ME OUT.
AND NOW I WALK THROUGH THE DOORS LIKE IT'S NORMAL.
BUT, UM, I HAD MY OWN EXPERIENCE THAT MADE ME WANT TO HELP PEOPLE AVOID GOING THROUGH WHAT WE DID.
NOW, IF WE CAN PROVIDE A FAMILY THAT CLOSURE AND ALLOW THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THEIR FINAL GOODBYES IN A SETTING WHERE THERE'S FIVE OR 10 CHAIRS WITH THEIR IMMEDIATE LOVED ONE SO THAT THEY CAN SAY GOODBYE AND NOT HAVE TO LEAVE, AND THEN WITNESS THE LOVED ONE BEING PLACED INTO THE CHAMBER, I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE FIND CLOSURE.
JUST LIKE YOU WOULD WHEN YOU BURY SOMEONE AND YOU WITNESS THAT LOWERING OF THE CASKET.
AND WE'D BE DOING AN INJUSTICE TO THE COMMUNITY IF WE DON'T OFFER THEM THAT.
AT THE HEIGHT OF THE PANDEMIC LOS ANGELES COUNTY, UM, THERE WERE FOLKS THAT WERE BEING TOLD IT WOULD TAKE A MONTH BEFORE THEY MET WITH A FUNERAL ARRANGER, AND POTENTIALLY THREE TO FOUR MONTHS BEFORE THEY GOT THEIR LOVED ONES BACK, WE WERE RECEIVING INBOUND CALLS FROM LOS ANGELES, FROM YUMA, FROM EL CENTRAL, FROM RIETTA, FROM RIVERSIDE, BECAUSE THEY WERE TOLD THAT WE WERE ABLE TO OPERATE AT A MORE EFFICIENT RATE.
WE WERE HELPING FAMILIES OUTSIDE OF OUR REGION.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT REGION, UM, AND, AND REACH AND BRINGING PEOPLE INTO EL CAJON, THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
I MEAN, MISS SOTOS FROM CHULA VISTA, UM, BUT OUR REACH IS MUCH FURTHER THAN THAT.
AND WHERE DO THEY STAY AT AT THOSE HOTELS? WHERE DO THEY SPEND THEIR MONEY AT AT URBANE TO HAVE LUNCH? UM, SO WE WERE ABLE TO TURN AROUND CREMATIONS FROM THE POINT WE CONTACTED SOMEBODY BACK INTO THEIR CARE WITHIN TWO WEEKS AT THE HEIGHT OF THE PANDEMIC.
WE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO BRING SOMEONE INTO OUR, HERE TODAY, HAVE A BURIAL CREMATION PERMIT TOMORROW, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THEIR LOVED ONES BACK WITHIN A FEW DAYS.
AND I DON'T BELIEVE ANYONE ELSE CAN DO IT AS GOOD AS WE DO.
UM, AND THAT'S WHY I BELIEVE ROBERTS AS SUCCESSFUL AS HE IS, HE TRULY CARES.
AND HE FINDS A WAY TO MAKE FAMILIES
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FEEL AT PEACE.AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
UM, AND SO I I LEAVE YOU WITH THIS VIDEO AND I APOLOGIZE, I THINK I WENT A COUPLE MINUTES OVER THE VIDEO'S, ABOUT TWO MINUTES LONG.
UM, BUT I THINK IT'LL REALLY PROVIDE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE INSIGHT OF WHAT THE INSIDE OF THE BUILDING MIGHT LOOK LIKE, BECAUSE SOME OTHER FOLKS OVER AT OAKE, UM, HAVE THE SAME CONCEPT.
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO PROVIDE NOT ONLY TO OUR EAST COUNTY RESIDENTS, BUT ALL OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY AND ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO TRULY SEND THE LOVED ONE OFF IN, IN A PROPER FASHION AND HAVE THAT CLOSURE.
SO I, I LEAVE YOU WITH THE VIDEO AND I THANK YOU FOR THIS FOR YOUR TIME.
SINCE OUR INCEPTION IN 1866, WE'VE BEEN INNOVATORS IN THE FUNERAL PROFESSION AS A FIFTH GENERATION OKIE, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD AN EYE ON HOW WE CAN BEST SERVE ROANOKE VALLEY FAMILIES.
WHEN WE NOTED ARISE IN FAMILIES SELECTING CREMATION, WE OPENED A CREMATORY TO OUR NORTH CHAPEL IN 1997.
NOW, FAMILIES ARE CHOOSING CREMATION FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.
AND DUE TO THIS DEMAND, WE DECIDED TO OPEN A SECOND CREMATORY.
THIS IS NOT JUST ANOTHER CREMATORY, THOUGH.
INTRODUCING OAK'S CREMATION TRIBUTE CENTER.
WE HAVE GONE AS FAR AS WE CAN GO, OR WORDS THAT WE'VE HEARD COUNTLESS TIMES AT GRAVESIDES OVER THE YEARS.
THE CREMATION TRIBUTE CENTER GIVES FAMILIES WHO CHOOSE CREMATION A CHANCE TO ACCOMPANY THEIR LOVED ONE AS FAR AS POSSIBLE.
THINK OF IT AS TRAVELING ALONGSIDE SOMEONE SPECIAL THROUGH THE END OF THEIR JOURNEY.
OAK'S GOAL IS TO OFFER FAMILIES A MORE INTIMATE AND MEANINGFUL EXPERIENCE WHEN THEY SELECT CREMATION.
UPON ENTERING THE CREMATION TRIBUTE CENTER FROM ITS DEDICATED ENTRANCE AT OAKEY SOUTH CHAPEL, YOU'LL NOTICE A WARMTH AND BEAUTY THAT LENDS ITSELF TO CREATING A MEMORABLE TRIBUTE.
THE CENTER UTILIZES WARM WOOD TONES, NATURAL STONE WATER, AND AMPLE NATURAL LIGHT FOR A SOOTHING AND HEALING ENVIRONMENT.
IN THE GRIEF PROCESS, RITUAL IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF HEALING.
THE CREMATION TRIBUTE CENTER ALLOWS FAMILIES TO HOLD A SMALL CEREMONY OR RITUAL WITH THEIR LOVED ONE.
PRESENT CLERGY MAY BE PRESENT ALONG WITH PAUL BEARERS OR FAMILY AND FRIENDS MAY CHOOSE TO SAY A FEW WORDS.
THE CREMATION TRIBUTE CENTER IS HERE FOR YOU TO PERSONALIZE THE CEREMONY HOWEVER YOU SEE FIT.
WE'LL ALWAYS HAVE AN OAKEYS FUNERAL DIRECTOR PRESENT TO ASSIST YOU AND WILL PROVIDE A HOSTESS AS WELL.
YOU CAN ACCOMPANY YOUR LOVED ONE ON THEIR FINAL JOURNEY AS FAR AS YOU'D LIKE.
YOU MAY WISH TO ACTIVATE THE DOOR TO THE CHAMBER, OR MAYBE YOU'D RATHER NOT.
YOU CAN STAY WITH YOUR LOVED ONE AS THE CASKET ENTERS THE CHAMBER, OR YOU CAN STEP OUT BEFORE THAT TIME.
THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE TO BE PRESENT DURING A CREMATION.
OAKEYS REQUIRES THAT A FAMILY MEMBER VIEW THE DECEDENT FOR IDENTIFICATION PURPOSES PRIOR TO CREMATION.
SOMETHING WE DO DIFFERENTLY AT OAKEYS IS PRIOR TO VIEWING, YOUR LOVED ONE WILL BE FULLY DRESSED.
WE BELIEVE THIS OFFERS MORE RESPECT AND DIGNITY FOR THE DECEDENT AND FOR THE FAMILY AS WELL, LEAVING YOU WITH THE BEST MEMORY PICTURE POSSIBLE OF YOUR LOVED ONE.
CHOOSING CREMATION NO LONGER MEANS FEWER OPTIONS.
JUST LIKE BEING PRESENT AT THE GRAVESIDE, BEING PRESENT AT THE TIME OF CREMATION PROVIDES PEACE, COMFORT, AND HEALING, AND ALLOWS YOU TO CELEBRATE A LIFE WELL LIVED.
YOUR OAK'S FUNERAL DIRECTOR IS AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS AND ARRANGEMENTS FOR THE CREMATION TRIBUTE CENTER CAN BE MADE AT ANY OF OUR FIVE OAK'S CHAPELS.
AT OAK'S, WE ALWAYS ADHERE TO THE STRICTEST GUIDELINES AND REGULATIONS, AND ALWAYS WITH RESPECT AND DIGNITY FOR THE DECEASED.
HOPE THAT PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY SINCE OUR INCEPTION.
AND, UM, ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE I STEP ASIDE? ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
THE NEXT SPEAKER CARD IS ALFRED ATALA.
LAST NAME SPELLED A T A L L A H.
I'M HERE IN OPPOSITION TO THE CITY'S STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO DENY THE C U P.
I'VE BEEN A CITIZEN OF EL CAJON SINCE I WAS BORN.
I WAS BORN, RAISED HERE, VERY PROUD OF THE CITY.
UM, HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS AND FAMILY DO BUSINESS IN THE CITY.
I'M AN ATTORNEY, ALSO HAVE FRIEND FAMILY THAT OWNS BUSINESSES IN EL CAJON.
AND I'VE DEALT, UH, WITH DEATH A LOT IN MY LATER YEARS.
WHEN YOU'RE GROWING UP, JUST LIKE MR. JABBAR, I USED TO DRIVE BY A FUNERAL HOME AND, AND GET THE HEEBIE-JEEBIES CUZ I SAW MY GRANDMOTHER BURIED.
AND I USED TO SEE A HEARST AND GET SCARED OR TURN MY HEAD WHEN I MET, UH, ROBERT SAKARA ABOUT 25 YEARS AGO.
HE WASN'T IN THE FUNERAL BUSINESS.
HE WENT IN THE FUNERAL BUSINESS, UM, APPROXIMATELY I THINK 10 OR 15 YEARS AGO.
AND WHEN HE TOLD ME ABOUT IT, I
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WAS LIKE, WHOA, WHAT KIND OF BUSINESS IS THAT? HOW WOULD YOU, HOW CAN YOU GO THERE EVERY DAY AND BE HAPPY ABOUT IT? WHAT I REALIZED IS ROBERT HAS A PASSION OF HELPING OTHERS, OF BEING A SERVICE TO OTHERS, HIS FRIENDS, HIS FAMILY, AND EVEN STRANGERS ON THE STREET.AND ONE OF THE BEST WAYS TO DO THAT IS TO PROVIDE HELP IN THE TIME OF NEED.
DEATH IS A DIFFICULT, DIFFICULT TIME FOR MANY FAMILIES.
UH, AND ROBERT REALLY MAKES THAT MORE COMFORTABLE.
AND HIS WHOLE STAFF, HE'S INSPIRED HIS STAFF.
THERE'S AN OLD TED TALK THAT TALKS ABOUT PEOPLE DON'T BUY WHAT YOU DO, THEY BUY WHY YOU DO IT, ROBERT'S IN THE FUNERAL BUSINESS.
BUT HIS BELIEF IN HELPING PEOPLE AND HELPING OTHERS, INSPIRING HIS ENTIRE TEAM, AS YOU CAN SEE WITH MR. JABBAR, TO HELP OTHERS HAS HAS MADE THEM GO INTO THIS BUSINESS AND REALLY PROVIDE A GREAT SERVICE TO EL CAJON, TO THE COUNTY, TO THE WHOLE CITY.
SO AS FAR AS SEEING A CREMATORY ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, YOU SAW THE, THE RENDERINGS THERE.
THE BUILDING LOOKS LIKE ANY NORMAL BUILDING.
AND UNTIL DEATH HAPPENS TO YOU, HAPPENS TO A FAMILY MEMBER, TO A FRIEND, YOU JUST DON'T GET TO EXPERIENCE IT.
AND TO HAVE OUR LOVED ONES TAKEN OUT OF SAN, OF EL CAJON TAKEN SOMETIMES TO LAKE ELSINOR LIKE THEY'RE A PIECE OF CARGO, IT'S, IT'S JUST DISGUSTING.
IF YOU, IF, IF, IF YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT IT, YOU WANT TO HAVE YOUR, YOUR FAMILY, YOUR LOVED ONES IN YOUR CARE, AND HAVING A CREMATORY OR FUNERAL HOME AS IT'S ALREADY APPROVED.
IF YOU WAS JUST PUTTING A FUNERAL, FUNERAL HOME, PEOPLE ALREADY ASSUME THERE'S CREMATIONS TAKING PLACE THERE.
IT'S AS ESSENTIAL AS A POLICE DEPARTMENT, AS A HOSPITAL, AS A FIRE DEPARTMENT.
IMAGINE TELLING OUR POLICE OFFICERS, GO BORROW SAFETY EQUIPMENT FROM THE CITY OF CULA VISTA, OR WE DON'T HAVE A FIRETRUCK FOR YOU.
GO BORROW ONE FROM THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO.
WE NEED TO GIVE ROBERT AND HIS TEAM THE TOOLS TO HELP SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.
NOT ONLY SERVE EL CAJON, BE AMBASSADORS FOR THE WHOLE COUNTY AND EXAMPLES FOR THE WHOLE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
COMMISSIONERS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
I KNOW WE'RE TAKING LONGER THAN EVERYTHING ELSE ON, ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, SO, UM, THANK YOU.
I I'M SURE YOU GUYS ALL WANNA GO HOME HERE SOON, SO I'LL, I'LL TRY AND KEEP IT AS, AS SHORT AS I, I CAN.
UM, BUT I, I DO WANT YOU GUYS TO UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE HERE.
UM, SOME OF YOU MAY ALREADY KNOW ME.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, I I WAS HERE, UM, STAFF MENTIONED THE HISTORY BEHIND THIS PROJECT AND, AND PROJECTS BEFORE THIS PROJECT.
AND BACK IN 2017, I DID HAVE A LOCATION THAT I, I DID TIE UP IN ESCROW AND IT WAS OVER ON, ON NORTH MARSHALL, AND IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING AND I WAS VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT, WORKING ALONG WITH STAFF AND, AND BROUGHT IT HERE TO PLANNING COMMISSIONS.
AND AGAIN, STAFF RECOMMENDED DENIAL.
AND SO I WALKED OUTTA HERE WITH MY HEAD DOWN AND, UM, APPEALED IT TO THE CITY COUNCIL, HOPING FOR A DIFFERENT RESULT, CAME BACK AND, UM, CITY COUNCIL ALSO, UH, VOTED AGAINST IT.
BUT I THINK I MADE AN IMPRESSION ON, ON CITY COUNCIL.
I THINK I MADE AN IMPRESSION ON, ON QUITE A FEW PEOPLE BECAUSE, UM, THEY REACHED OUT TO ME.
PEOPLE REACHED OUT TO ME AND THEY SAID, LOOK, UM, DON'T, DON'T GIVE UP.
SO I DIDN'T, UM, UH, THEN, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE CALLED ME AND SAID, LOOK, ROBERT, UM, YOU ALREADY HAVE A MORTUARY.
IT SAYS CREMATION SERVICES ON THE BUILDING.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ALREADY BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE CREMATING THERE.
SO CAN YOU PUT A A MACHINE IN HERE? I SAID, I'D, I'D LOVE TO.
SO I CAME BACK A YEAR LATER AND CAME BEFORE PLANNING COMMISSIONS, AND I ASKED PLANNING COMMISSIONS TO, TO APPROVE IT.
AND YET AGAIN, I GOT DENIED AND THEN WENT BEFORE CITY COUNCIL AND I GOT DENIED THERE.
BUT WHAT WAS FUNNY ABOUT THAT SECOND TIME THAT I CAME BEFORE CITY COUNCIL WAS ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS SAID, REMEMBER THAT BUILDING THAT YOU HAD ON ON NORTH MARSHALL? HE GOES, CAN YOU GET THAT BACK? BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A PERFECT LOCATION.
I DON'T WANNA COME BACK AGAIN.
THIS REALLY IS THE PERFECT LOCATION, CONTRARY TO WHAT STAFF BELIEVES.
UM, I BELIEVE IT IS THE PERFECT LOCATION.
I BELIEVE IT'S THE PERFECT LOCATION, BECAUSE WE NEED TO BE OFF OF A FREEWAY.
WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANY FLASHY SIGNS.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE BLINKING HOTEL OR, OR, YOU KNOW, NUDE BAR OR, OR BAR OR LIQUOR OR, OR ANYTHING ON THE BUILDING.
WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A MONUMENT SIGN, WE'RE NOT FOR A POLE SIGN.
WE'RE ACTUALLY HIDDEN BEHIND THE HOME DEPOT.
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MENTIONED COMING DOWN THE 67 INVISIBILITY OFF THE 67.YOU CAN BARELY SEE THE BUILDING IF, IF YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN.
I HAVE TO REMIND PEOPLE WHERE THIS BUILDING IS.
I GREW UP IN EL CAJON, GRADUATED FROM ELCON HIGH SCHOOL, AND I BARELY KNEW WHERE THE BUILDING WAS WHEN SOMEBODY TOLD ME THAT IT WAS FOR SALE.
UM, IF YOU'RE ON FLETCHER PARKWAY, YOU DON'T SEE THE BUILDING.
IF YOU'RE AT URBANE OR IF YOU'RE AT HOME DEPOT, YOU DON'T SEE THE BUILDING.
NOT THAT IF YOU DID, IT'D BE A PROBLEM.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN OF THE BUILDING, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN.
NOT ONLY BECAUSE WE TAKE PRIDE IN OUR OWNERSHIP AND, AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE SPENDING MORE TIME THERE THAN ANYONE ELSE.
BUT BECAUSE WE DO WANNA SHELTER THOSE PEOPLE THAT MAY WORRY ABOUT, OH MY GOD, YOU KNOW, WHAT IF MY KIDS SEES THIS.
UM, AGAIN, WE ENCOURAGE FAMILIES NOT TO SHELTER THEIR CHILDREN, NOT TO SHELTER PEOPLE FROM DEATH.
UM, STAFF MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND MR UM, ANTHONY, UH, I'M SORRY, I DON'T WANNA TRY AND BUTCHER YOUR LAST NAME.
UM, MENTIONS, UH, THE FAILSAFE, OR I THINK IT WAS MR. SERCO TALKING ABOUT FAIL SAFE, AND WHERE WAS I GOING WITH THE, WITH THE FAILSAFE? THESE, THESE MACHINES ARE, ARE RELIABLE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE DESIGNED TO BE RELIABLE.
UM, THEY WE'RE NOT CUTTING ANY CORNERS HERE.
WE'RE GOING WITH THE BEST, UH, THAT THERE'S OUT THERE IN, IN TECHNOLOGY TO, TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITY, TO, YOU KNOW, PROTECT PEOPLE FROM, YOU KNOW, SAYING THERE'S POLLUTION OR, OR THERE'S NOISE OR ANYTHING OF, OF THAT SORT.
UM, I WENT OVER A, A FEW THINGS THAT, UH, STAFF HAD MADE SOME COMMENTS ON.
UH, THE, OUR ENGINEER TOUCH BASE ON, THERE'S ONLY SIX CREMATORIUMS I WANTED TO KIND OF TOUCH BASE ON THEM AND THEIR LOCATIONS WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED TRIPLE EIGHT CREMATIONS AND NATIONAL CITY ACROSS THE STREET FROM TRIPLE EIGHT CREMATIONS, BIG CENTER.
AND IT'S RAPIDLY GROWING, NO VACANCIES.
THERE'S A WALMART, THERE'S, UH, OLD NAVY, THERE'S A BEST BUY.
I MEAN, YOU'RE TALKING BIG ANCHORS AND THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
UM, WE TALKED ABOUT THE, UM, GREENWOOD GREENWOOD'S ACROSS THE STREET.
BEEN THERE SINCE 1948, UM, ACROSS THE STREET.
THEY ACTUALLY SOLD THAT LAND TO THE DEVELOPER WHERE THERE'S A BIG HOME DEPOT, THERE'S A 24 HOUR FITNESS, THERE'S A 99 CENT STORE, AND ALL KINDS OF OTHER, YOU KNOW, BIG THRIVING BUSINESSES.
WHEN STAFF SAYS THAT PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA WANNA OPEN UP OR WE'RE GOING TO DETER PEOPLE, IT COULDN'T BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.
WE BRING PEOPLE TO THE CITY OF EL CAJON, EVEN HERE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE SERVICE ALL OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE ARE COVEN ARE TRAVELING TO OUR EL CAJON LOCATION.
AND PEOPLE ARE COMING FROM OUT OF THE STATE, AND WHEN THEY COME FROM OUT STATE, THEY SAY, WHERE SHOULD WE STAY? AND WE SAY, RIGHT HERE AT THE COURTYARD, THEY WANNA BE CLOSE TO THEIR LOVED ONES.
WHEN THEY COME IN AND THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, WE NEED CLOTHES FOR OUR LOVED ONE, WE SEND THEM TO ROSS, OR WE SELL, SEND THEM TO ELEGANT MAN HERE IN EL CAJON SO THAT THEY CAN PUT THEIR LOVED ONES IN A DIGNIFIED SUIT OR INDIGNIFIED DRESS.
APPARENTLY, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW MY GENERAL MANAGER TALKS A LOT AND I'VE BEEN TOLD I TALK A LOT AS WELL.
SO YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW MUCH TIME WE SPEND WITH THESE FAMILIES.
BY THE TIME WE'RE DONE WITH THEM, THEY'RE STARVING, AND NINE TIMES OUTTA 10, THEY'RE NOT GONNA LEAVE THE CITY OF EL CAJON TO GET SOMETHING TO EAT.
THE SERVICES THAT WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE ARE, ARE SMALL SERVICES.
THE CREMATORIES ARE THE NEW CEMETERIES.
THEY ARE, I, I MEAN, NO ONE TOUCHED ON THE NUMBERS, BUT THE NUMBERS ARE OUTRAGEOUS.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE ASTRONOMICAL.
IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT 300,000 DEATHS WITHIN THE STATE, WITHIN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.
WE HAVE 30,000 DEATHS A MONTH.
SORRY, NOT A MONTH, I APOLOGIZE.
30,000 DEATHS A YEAR JUST WITHIN THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO.
SAN DIEGO IS THE SE HAS THE SECOND LARGEST POPULATION IN CALIFORNIA WITH THREE AND A HALF MILLION PEOPLE, BUT ONLY SIX CREMATORIES SERVING THESE PEOPLE.
WE WENT FROM, AS A, AS A STATE, WE WENT FROM CREMATIONS BEING 50% CREMATION, 50% BURIAL BACK IN THE, PROBABLY EARLY TWO THOUSANDS TO NOW THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA IS ABOUT 80% CREMATIONS.
DO YOU NEED MORE? YOUR TIME IS UP AS, SEE IF YOU NEED ANY MORE TIME.
I CAN GIVE YOU ANOTHER MINUTE OR YOU,
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UM, I THINK I COULD WRAP IT UP PROBABLY IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES, IF THAT'S OKAY.UM, I, I SPOKE ABOUT THE DESIGN.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE WAY WE'RE BUILDING IT OUT IS WE'RE GONNA HAVE A PARAPET THAT COVERS THE STACKS.
THE STACKS AREN'T GONNA BE SHOWING.
UM, SO AGAIN, THE DESIGN I, I BELIEVE SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
A YOU SPEND SOME TIME ON, ON THE DESIGN.
UM, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS ASKED ABOUT PROCESSIONS AND FUNERALS.
UM, I I BELIEVE MOST OF THE FAMILIES THAT ARE GONNA COME THERE WANT THE CLOSURE OF KNOWING THAT THEIR LOVED ONE IS COMING THERE.
THEY'RE GONNA BE CREMATED THERE AND GIVEN BACK TO THEM.
THERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL ASK, UH, THAT THERE'S THAT CURIOSITY OF, IS IT MY LOVED ONE GOING IN? THERE ARE, ARE THOSE MY LOVED ONES? CREMAINS THAT I'M GETTING BACK? IS MY LOVED ONE GOING IN THE CHAMBER BY THEMSELVES? AND THIS IS WHY I THINK THE NEED FOR WITNESS CREMATION IS BECOMING HIGHER AND HIGHER.
I THINK EL CAJON, UH, IF EL CAJON ALLOWS THIS CREMATORY, I I THINK THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE VERY PROUD OF.
I THINK EL CAJON IS GONNA SET A PRECEDENCE FOR THE REST OF SAN DIEGO THAT IF YOU'RE GONNA BUILD SOMETHING, BUILD IT RIGHT.
AND IF YOU'RE GONNA TREAT PEOPLE, UM, WITH, TREAT THEM WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT AND TREAT THEM RIGHT.
AS JONATHAN MENTIONED EARLIER, WE DEAL WITH A LOT OF HOSPITALS.
UM, WE DEAL WITH A LOT OF NURSING HOMES BECAUSE THEY HAVE AN OVERFLOW ISSUE AT NURSING HOMES.
WHAT HAPPENS IF SOMEONE PASSES AWAY AND THEY DON'T HAVE A DESIGNATED MORE TRAINING, THEY CAN ONLY TIE UP THAT BED FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS AT MOST, FOUR HOURS AT MOST.
SO THEY RELY ON US, WE'LL GO, WE'LL PICK UP THE, UH, THE DECEDENT, WE'LL BRING THEM INTO OUR CARE.
SAME THING WITH THE HOSPITALS.
WHEN THERE'S OVERFLOW, WE'RE PICKING UP THOSE DECEDENT AND WE'RE BRINGING 'EM INTO OUR CARE.
AND NINE TIMES OUT OF 10, THEY'RE STAYING WITH US AND THEY'RE STAYING WITH US, NOT JUST BECAUSE WE TREAT THEM RIGHT, BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY DON'T WANT THEIR LOVED ONE MOVED AROUND AND THEY REALIZE THAT WE ARE GONNA TAKE CARE OF 'EM.
SO I ASKED YOU GUYS TODAY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE WONDERING ABOUT COMPATIBILITY, THERE IS NO BETTER LOCATION FOR THIS IN THE CITY OF EL CAJON THAN THIS LOCATION THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TODAY.
SO I ASK THAT YOU GUYS PLEASE A, APPROVE THIS LOCATION AND, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, DENY THE REQUEST OF THE, THE STAFF TO, TO DENY THIS PROJECT.
UM, I NOTICED ON YOUR, UH, ON YOUR, UH, WEBPAGE YES, SIR, THAT, UH, MANY OF YOUR STAFF MEMBERS HAVE, UH, LIFE INSURANCE LICENSES.
IS THAT A REQUIREMENT IN THE CREMATORY OR DO YOU SELL LIFE INSURANCE ON THE PREMISES? SO IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT.
WHAT THAT IS, IS WE SELL WHAT WE CALL PREARRANGEMENTS.
AND THEY DO THAT AT, AT CEMETERIES AS WELL.
SO WHAT PEOPLE CAN DO IS, UM, COME IN PREARRANGE, MAKE ALL THEIR ARRANGEMENTS AS IF THEY WERE MAKING IT FOR SOMEONE WHO PASSED AWAY.
AND THERE'S TWO WAYS THAT WE COULD HOLD THE MONEY.
WE COULD EITHER HOLD IT IN A TRUST, WHICH TAKES A LOT OF PAPERWORK AND, AND A LOT OF WORK ON OUR END, AND WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.
OR WE COULD WRITE UP AN INSURANCE POLICY.
SO THAT'S WHY THE STAFF IS INSURED.
WHAT WE DO IS WE WRITE IT UP AS AN INSURANCE POLICY, WHICH GUARANTEES THE FAMILIES THAT AT THE TIME OF PASSING EVERYTHING THAT THEY CHOSE, THAT'S LOCKED IN AT THAT PRICE.
THEY'LL GET EVERYTHING THAT THEY WANTED, WHETHER IT'S 20 YEARS LATER OR FIVE YEARS LATER, AND THE MONEY WILL BE AVAILABLE TO THEM.
SO WE WORK WITH AN A PLUS RATED INSURANCE COMPANY THAT HOLDS THE MONEY FOR THEM.
SO YOU USE THE LIFE INSURANCE TO, TO FUND THE CONTRACT? IT'S NOT LIFE INSURANCE, IT'S A PRE-NEED INSURANCE.
IT'S A SEPARATE INSURANCE STRICTLY FOR THE FUNERAL INDUSTRY.
AND WHAT THEY DO IS THE INSURANCE COMPANY HOLDS PHILLIPS FUNDS THAT THE FAMILY PUTS INTO THE INSURANCE, INTO THE INSURANCE POLICY FOR THE TIME OF DEATH.
I DON'T, UH, REMEMBER 2017 WHEN YOU MADE AN APPLICATION FOR NORTH MARSHALL, WHICH IS AN INDUSTRIAL AREA.
DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT, WHY YOU WERE, UH, DENIED AT THAT TIME? THE REASON BEHIND IT? YES.
WHAT WHAT WAS THE REASON BEHIND IT? EVERYONE WAS SCARED.
SO THIS WAS, THIS WAS, AGAIN, THE UNKNOWN.
IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT I WAS ABLE AND THE MANUFACTURER WAS ABLE TO EDUCATE THE CITY COUNCIL AND, AND THE COMMISSIONERS ON WHAT CREMATION IS ABOUT AND WHAT, HOW THE EQUIPMENT WORKS.
YOU KNOW, WE TALKED TODAY, YOU KNOW, MY WIFE AND I, YOU KNOW, WHEN I FIRST GOT INTO THE INDUSTRY, MY WIFE WAS SCARED THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANY FRIENDS.
I WALK INTO A ROOM AND I'M THE MOST POPULAR GUY IN THE ROOM.
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IT'S BECAUSE TODAY THERE'S A HUNDRED FUNERAL HOMES SERVING 3.5 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE, UM, COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO.SO EVEN IF THOSE FUNERAL HOMES HAVE 10 EMPLOYEES, EACH, THAT'S A THOUSAND PEOPLE AND THREE AND A HALF MILLION POPULATION THAT YOU CAN ASK QUESTIONS TO.
AND SO, SO AGAIN, WHEN IT'S THE UNKNOWN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE CURIOUS.
UM, PEOPLE AREN'T SCARED TO TALK TO ME OR PEOPLE AREN'T SCARED TO BE AROUND ME, PEOPLE AREN'T SCARED TO COME IN THE FUNERAL HOME.
YOU KNOW, I INVITE THE HOSPITALS, I INVITE THE NURSING HOMES, I INVITE THE TRAUMA INTERVENTION PEOPLE TO THE FUNERAL HOMES AND THEY CAN'T WAIT TO GET IN THERE.
AND I GIVE THEM A FULL TOUR OF OUR REFRIGERATION UNIT, OF OUR PREP ROOM, HOW THINGS ARE HANDLED.
ANYONE WHO WANTS TO KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO EDUCATE.
AND ONCE THEY REALIZE WHAT WE DO AND HOW WE DO IT, IT JUST GIVES THEM THAT PEACE OF MIND.
I APPRECIATE ALL THE INFORMATION.
CAUSE IT WAS VERY NO TILL JUST RECENTLY, CUZ MY, MY BUSINESS PARTNER'S MOTHER PASSED AWAY THAT WHEN, WHEN THEY PASSED IN THE HOUSE, THAT'S WHERE THEY STAY.
SO SHE WAS SHOCKED AND SHE DIDN'T PLAN TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE TO ARRANGE SOMEONE TO PICK UP THE BODY.
SO I CAN APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO.
CAUSE I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE AREN'T PREPARED.
YOU NOW HAVE SOMEONE THAT YOU LOVE DEAD IN YOUR HALLWAY AND WHO WAS GONNA TAKE THE BODY AWAY AND TREAT IT PROPERLY.
AND A QUICK QUESTION REGARDING, CUZ I KNOW YOU HAD THAT SIGN, I, I APPRECIATE THE RENDERING OF THE SIGNS, CUZ IT'S NICE TO KNOW YOU CAN'T, YOU DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S A MORTUARY, SO THAT'S, YOU'RE JUST GONNA HAVE THE ONE SIGN THERE IN THE FRONT.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO ANY OTHER SIGNAGE, JUST CORRECT.
BUT I THINK IT'S, IT'S A GOOD LOCATION.
AND, AND AGAIN, WE'RE IN A VERY TOUCHY INDUSTRY.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME FAMILIES I CAN SIT WITH AND WE'RE LAUGHING DURING THE WHOLE TIME OF THE ARRANGEMENT.
THERE'S SOME FAMILIES THAT I'M SITTING WITH AND I'M VERY SERIOUS AT, AT THE TIME BECAUSE EVERYONE GRIEVES DIFFERENTLY.
SO IT'S A VERY TOUCHY INDUSTRY.
SO WE'VE GOTTA BE CAREFUL HOW WE SELL OURSELVES TO, TO THE COMMUNITY AND, AND WE'RE VERY RESPECTFUL.
UM, AND, AND TO, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR FRIENDS, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, PASSING, UM, GOD, I I I'M SORRY.
I'M GETTING OLDER AND I, AND I FORGET, I, I LOSE MY, MY MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.
UM, BUT ONE IN, ONE IN 10 PEOPLE GO THEIR WHOLE LIVES AND NEVER HAVE TO PLAN A FUNERAL BECAUSE THEY HAVE FRIENDS THERE OR FAMILY.
SO AUNT SUE, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME SOMEONE PASSED AWAY, THEY CALL AUNT SUE AND AN SUE TAKES CARE OF EVERYTHING FOR THEM.
SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH EVERY DAY, BUT WHEN THEY DO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE HAPPY THAT, UM, WE'RE WE'RE THERE FOR THEM.
UH, ONE LAST, ONE LAST STORY, AND, AND I'M DONE UNLESS SOMEBODY HAS A, HAS A QUESTION FOR ME.
BUT, YOU KNOW, MY WIFE WAS IN EL CAJON.
HER SEAMSTRESS WAS IN EL CAJON, AND SHE WENT TO GO FIX HER DRESS, AND SHE STARTS TALKING TO, UM, THE SEAMSTRESS AND THE SEAMSTRESS TALKING TO HER.
AND SHE SAYS, ARE YOU MARRIED? SHE SAYS, YES, I'M MARRIED.
SHE'S LIKE, OH, WHAT DOES YOUR HUSBAND DO? SHE SAYS, OH, MY HUSBAND OWNS A FUNERAL HOME.
SHE SAYS, OH, IS YOUR HUSBAND ROBERT'S A CAR? SHE'S LIKE, YEAH, THAT'S MY HUSBAND.
SHE SAYS, OH, UM, I LOVE ROBERT.
YOU KNOW, HE, MY FATHER PASSED AWAY AND I REALLY, I WASN'T SURE IF I CAN SEE HIM, BUT ROBERT, YOU KNOW, HELPED ME THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AND I DID SEE HIM AND JUST HELPS ME SLEEP AT NIGHT.
AND I PRAY FOR HIM EVERY NIGHT.
SO MY WIFE IS ON HER WAY HOME AND CALLS ME AND SAYS, YOU KNOW, ROBERT, SHE'S LIKE, DO YOU STILL HAVE LIFE INSURANCE? AND THIS WAS YEARS AGO.
AND I SAID, I SAID, OF COURSE.
I SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO WORK AND I, I WANT YOU TO TAKE CARE OF THE KIDS.
AND, YOU KNOW, SHE'S LIKE, WELL JUST CANCEL IT.
I SAID, WHAT DO YOU MEAN CANCEL IT? ARE YOU CRAZY? SHE SAYS, NO, CANCEL IT.
SHE GOES, EVERYWHERE I GO, EVERYBODY'S PRAYING FOR YOU.
NOTHING'S GONNA HAPPEN TO YOU.
YOU KNOW, LOOK, WE TREAT PEOPLE WELL, AND, AND OUR INTENTIONS AREN'T TO, TO ANY BUSINESS.
WE'RE, IF ANYTHING, WE WANNA SEE EVERY BUSINESS GROW.
UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S OUR JOB TO TAKE CARE OF THIS COMMUNITY.
AND WE'RE BRINGING PEOPLE IN FROM EVERYWHERE.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE THE CLOSEST FUNERAL HOME TO ALPINE, UM, TO PINE VALLEY, SANTI, LAKESIDE, YOU KNOW, SO, SO WE'RE SERVICING A BIG COMMUNITY.
NO OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? THAT IS IT.
I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ERCO, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MOROSE.
WELL, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, I'M
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SORRY, CAN I NOT WORK? NOT WORK.I, NO, I, THAT WAS MY MISTAKE.
CAN I HAVE YOU VOTE AGAIN? SURE.
I THINK MS. POLL, RU I THINK I, CAN I GET YOUR VOTE? THERE WE GO.
MOTION CARRIES BY ANNA'S VOTE.
UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY JUST, UH, IN RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS AND ISSUES THAT CAME UP, UM, JUST A, A SHORT, UH, A RESPONSE.
UM, I WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION, UM, WASN'T, ISN'T RELATED TO FEAR OR LACK OF UNDERSTANDING FOR THE USE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN TO, UH, ROBERT'S ESTABLISHMENT ON NORTH MAGNOLIA, AND MY GRANDMOTHER PASSED AWAY.
I HOPED TO MAKE THE ARRANGEMENTS, UM, IN CONJUNCTION WITH MY FAMILY.
UM, I DID THOROUGH RESEARCH ON THE AIR POLLUTION CONTROL DISTRICT ISSUES RELATED TO ODORS AND SMOKE, SMOKE AND PERMITTING AS WERE DISCUSSED, UH, THROUGHOUT THE TESTIMONY THAT YOU RECEIVED TONIGHT.
AND SO, UM, STAFF TRULY UNDERSTANDS ALL THOSE ASPECTS OF THIS PROPOSED USE.
AND SO, UM, IN CONJUNCTION WITH YOUR UPCOMING DISCUSSION, I WANNA BRING US BACK TO, UH, AGAIN, TO THOSE FINDINGS FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
SO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FINDINGS ARE RELATED TO, AGAIN, THAT GENERAL PLAN, CONSISTENCY AND COMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND USES, UM, FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY, UM, STAFF HAS TO TAKE, UH, WHAT I WOULD CHARACTERIZE IT A AS A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH, RIGHT? SO THE GENERAL PLAN SAYS THAT WE WANT TO ATTRACT ADDITIONAL BUSINESSES AND INVESTMENTS.
AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT, AT THE PROPOSED USE IN THE PROPOSED LOCATION WITHIN THAT CONTEXT.
SO I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER AREAS WHERE IT'S AT EXISTING CEMETERIES, OR THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO THE FORTIES OR THE FIFTIES, OR IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO COMMERCIAL, UM, STAFF UNDERSTANDS ALL OF THOSE ISSUES.
UM, AND I, I THINK THE CONCERN FROM STAFF REALLY COMES DOWN TO THAT CORE ISSUE OF WHETHER OR NOT, UM, THIS LOCATION WOULD BE IMPACTFUL TO ATTRACTING ADDITIONAL BUSINESSES IN THE FUTURE.
SO IF WE TOOK THINGS IN REVERSE, LET'S SAY THAT, UM, HAMPTON INN AND SUITES WAS ABOUT TO BE DEVELOPED NOW, WOULD THEY CHOOSE TO LOCATE AT THEIR CURRENT LOCATION IF THERE WAS A CREMATORY CREMATORIUM ACROSS THE STREET? WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.
UM, BUT STAFF LOOKING AT THAT FROM THAT CONSERVATIVE APPROACH, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT WITHIN THAT LENS OF, UH, GENERAL PLAN CONSISTENCY.
AND, AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL COMES FROM.
OBVIOUSLY, WE UNDERSTAND THE NEED, UH, FOR, UM, THIS TYPE OF FACILITY AND TO, TO LOCATE SOMETHING IN EAST COUNTY.
WE'VE TALKED WITH, UH, ROBERT, UM, YOU KNOW, OVER THE LAST NINE MONTHS AS WE'VE REVISED HIS PLANS IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND PARKING AND, AND OTHER ISSUES, UH, WE'VE DEFINITELY ENCOURAGED HIM TO FIND THAT LOCATION IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE IN A LESS PROMINENT LOCATION.
OBVIOUSLY IN THE PAST THERE'S BEEN DENIALS, UH, FOR THE PREVIOUS LOCATION, THEN ALSO THE LOCATION, UM, ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, BUT I, I JUST WANTED TO CHARACTERIZE THAT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION ISN'T FOR A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE USE MEANS.
IT'S REALLY JUST GOING BACK TO THE GENERAL PLAN AND WHAT THE STATED GOALS ARE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY OVERALL IN CONTINUING TO ATTRACT THOSE NEW BUSINESSES AND HOW THAT COULD POTENTIALLY IMPACT THAT AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S AN ISSUE WITH COMPATIBILITY.
UM, COULD, COULD YOU LEAD THOSE UP, THOSE FINDINGS? UM, YOU KNOW, PERCEPTION IS VERY IMPORTANT.
WHETHER IT IS TRUE OR NOT, IT'S STILL, IT'S A PERCEPTION AND THE PERCEPTION THAT PEOPLE HAVE CAN INFLUENCE, UH, THE WAY A PERSON ACTS.
UH, GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, UH, AS A CHILD IN, UH, IN EUROPE, IN ITALY SPECIFICALLY, UH, WHEN SOMEBODY DIED, THE PERSON WAS LAID IN THE LIVING ROOM AND THE FAMILY CAME TO SAY THEIR GOODBYES.
SO AS A CHILD, IT WAS A SCARY, YEAH, IT WAS SCARY, BUT, UH, I GOT USED TO IT.
I, I REALIZED WHAT LIFE, WHAT LIFE WAS ABOUT, AND WHAT DEATH WAS ABOUT.
SO AS YOU GROW OLDER, IT'S PART OF LIFE.
WHERE IN THE AMERICAN CULTURE, CURRENT CULTURE, I WOULD SAY THAT WE'RE INSULATED FROM THAT.
THAT, UH, WE DON'T WANT TO SEE DEATH BECAUSE IT'S SO SCARY TO US.
AND, AND, AND, UH, WE DON'T, UH, WANNA EVEN LOOK AT IT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, SO THE PERCEPTION IS A VERY IMPORTANT, AND I ASKED SOME PEOPLE THAT I KNEW, HOW WOULD THEY FEEL REGARDING HAVING A CREMATORIUM AT THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION? AND THE FIRST THING I SAID, OH, NO WAY.
I WOULD NEVER, UH, GO TO THAT PLACE.
I WOULD NEVER GO EAT AT URBANE AND, AND SO FORTH.
SO ZONING WISE, I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT.
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WISE, I DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT.I THINK IT'S A, A GREAT BUSINESS.
UM, IT'S A BUSINESS THAT WE ALL NEED AND, UH, AND, AND, AND THE EL CAJON NEEDS THAT BUSINESS.
BUT THE WAY IT'S PER THE PERCEPTION IS LIKE THE, THE STAFF HAS JUST STATED, IF A PERSON GREW UP INSULATED, NOT SEEING DEATH PERSONALLY, IF THEY WANNA OPEN UP A BUSINESS IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, THEY MAY SAY, NO, I'M NOT GONNA DO THAT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S CLOSE TO A CREMATORIUM.
I WANNA STAY AWAY FROM THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
SO WHEN I SAY PERCEPTION, WHETHER IT BE TRUE OR NOT, IS VERY AN IMPORTANT FACTOR.
AND I COULD SEE THAT THE GENERAL PLAN IS TO GROW BUSINESS IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
AND IF, IF, IF THAT'S, THERE MIGHT NOT POSSIBLY GROW, YOU KNOW, LIKE WOULD THE HAMPTON INN DEVELOP THAT LAND THAT'S THERE? IF, IF THAT WAS THE CASE, I, WE, WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO IT, BUT KNOWING HOW PEOPLE'S HEARTS ARE AND WHAT THEY'VE BEEN RAISED WITH AND HOW THEY'VE GROWN UP IN AMERICA, PROBABLY NOT.
UM, WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THAT, I, I WA I WALKED OVER TO THAT CORNER TODAY, THAT WHOLE STREET IS PRETTY BLIGHTED.
IT'S A, IT'S AN INDUSTRIAL BUSINESS PARK.
IT'S REALLY THE LAST PIECE OF LAND TO BE DEVELOPED OVER THERE.
IT'S BEEN VACANT FOR THREE AND A HALF YEARS.
SO IF YOU KNOW JACK IN THE BOX OR SOME RETAILER WAS GONNA COME IN, THEY WOULD'VE CAME IN.
IT'S, UH, THERE'S NOTHING MORE TO, THERE'S NO ONE TO CHASE AWAY FROM THAT, THAT PLACE.
I WENT OVER TO URBAN AND I LOOKED BACKWARDS AND I COULDN'T SEE IT.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT YOU'RE GONNA, NOBODY IS GONNA KNOW IT'S THERE UNTIL THEY NEED IT.
IT'S ONE OF THOSE KIND OF, AND, AND THE ARCHITECTURE'S GREAT.
UM, NO ONE IS LOOKING TO THE RIGHT OR THE LEFT.
AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE GET OFF THE 67.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, IF WE GO OVER TO THE, UH, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE STOREFRONTS AROUND THAT ARE DILAPIDATED AND ARE VACANT, AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT GOING ON AND, AND, UH, HE'S TRYING TO COME IN AND, AND, AND CREATE SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL THERE.
I MEAN, THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
I, I JUST, WHEN I SAW THE RENDERINGS, CUZ I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT COMING OFF THE 67 WHEN THEY SHOWED ME THE RENDERINGS OF WHAT THAT BUILDING WOULD LOOK LIKE OFF THE 67, I WAS LIKE, NO ONE'S GONNA KNOW THAT PLACE IS THERE UNTIL THEY NEED TO USE IT.
AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA BE GLAD IT'S THERE.
I MEAN, UH, THAT IS A KIND OF A LONELY, I MEAN, I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT IT'S, ONCE YOU GET PAST, UM, HAMPTON, ANYBODY WALKING THEIR DOG DOWN THAT STREET,
AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT SIGNAGE, I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE LOOK.
UM, THOSE REALLY AREN'T, I, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY ISSUES MYSELF PERSONALLY WITH THAT.
UM, HE TRIED GOING IN THE INDUSTRIAL AREA FOR WHATEVER REASON, WE, WE, WE, WE VOTED HIM DOWN THERE.
IT'S GOT THE PLACE OVER THERE IN OFF MAGNOLIA.
IT'S IN THE, ISN'T THAT THE ONE ACROSS FROM RUBIO'S? RIGHT.
I MEAN, IT'S RIGHT ACROSS FROM RUBIO'S.
I RUBIO'S DIDN'T RUN, THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT HE DID CREMATION AND NEITHER DID MOTOR WORLD OR OR ANYBODY ELSE WHEN, WHEN HE WAS THERE.
AND THEY, AND SO, SO I, I'M NOT, I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT MAINLY BECAUSE IT'S THE LAST PIECE OF LAND OVER THERE.
HOME DEPOT'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
THE TILT UP BUILDINGS ACROSS THAT ARE OWNED BY THE DENT FAMILY, THEY'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.
SO THERE'S REALLY NOTHING LEFT TO DEVELOP OVER THERE, YOU KNOW, IF THAT WAS AN ISSUE, IF WE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
I MEAN, I, I DON'T, DON'T, I JUST DON'T, I SEE THAT BEING A NON-ISSUE BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING LEFT TO, YOU KNOW, TO DEVELOP, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT TEARING DOWN THE TILT UPS.
WE'RE NOT TEARING DOWN HOME DEPOT.
UM, SO I'M NOT TOO CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.
UM, THAT'S JUST KINDA MY OPINION ON THAT.
I WONDER IF STAFF CAN ENLIGHTEN US REGARDING WHAT HAPPENED IN 2017.
CUZ NORTH MARSHALL IS AN INDUSTRIAL AREA.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN 2017? ULTIMATELY IT WAS, UM, DENIED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IT WAS APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
UM, I THINK THAT THE APPLICANT'S CHARACTERIZATION OF, OF, UH, NOT HAVING THE RESOURCES AND SPEAKERS THAT WERE PRESENT HERE TONIGHT TO, TO PROVIDE A, A GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF THE USE MAY HAVE PERSONALLY CONTRIBUTED TOWARDS THAT.
UH, BUT, UM, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT I WOULD OFFER AS A SUMMARY.
I I DO, I DO REMEMBER SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS.
IT WAS, YEAH, THE, THE OTHER BUSINESSES ARE GONNA BE AFFECTED AND THE OTHER COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES AREN'T GONNA WANT IT THERE AND THERE'S GONNA BE NO PARKING OR PEOPLE ARE GONNA TAKE UP PARKING.
AND HE MENTIONED, I DO REMEMBER HE SAID, NO, WE DO THINGS ON WEEKENDS AND EVENINGS.
AND, AND I THINK IT REALLY CAME DOWN TO THE OTHER, EVERYONE WAS AFRAID THAT THE OTHER BUSINESSES WERE BECAUSE IT WAS A DIFFERENT SITUATION.
YOU KNOW, HERE HE IS ON A PRIVATE CORNER, REALLY.
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YOU REALLY CAN'T SEE MUCH.AND LIKE YOU SAID, IF I'M, YOU KNOW, UP IN VISTA AND I'M BRINGING MY LOVED ONE DOWN HERE, I'M PROBABLY STAYING AT THE HAMPTON INN AND EATING AND IN AND OUT BURGER.
UM, BUT I DO BELIEVE IT WAS BECAUSE OF THAT.
I DO BELIEVE THERE WAS OTHER COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS THAT WERE GONNA BE FACING HIM OR NEIGHBORS WITH HIM.
I CAN'T REMEMBER THE WHOLE FACILITY.
I DO REMEMBER IT WAS LIKE A BIG WAREHOUSE AND IT WAS GONNA BE INSIDE AND IT WAS GONNA BE A LOT OF SPACE IN THAT WAREHOUSE, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.
SO IT, IT, IT WAS NOTHING COMPARED TO WHAT HE'S, HE'S PROPOSED HERE.
I MEAN, IT WAS MORE LIKE A, A WAREHOUSE SETTING.
I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I RECALL.
WHAT ABOUT YOU? DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? I DO.
UM, AND TH THERE WAS A LOT OF ISSUE.
UH, THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT THE PRESENTER BROUGHT FORWARD THE, THE CREMATORIUM AND WHAT WENT ON IN THERE AND THE LASERS AND THE MEASURING AND ALL THAT.
UM, AND ULTIMATELY CAME DOWN TO THERE WAS A SCHOOL CLOSE BY AND THE KIDS WALKED PAST AND THE OTHER BUSINESSES AND, UH, AGAIN, JUST LIKE THIS, WE HAD FINDINGS FOR DENIAL BUT NOT FOR APPROVAL.
AND SO WE WENT BACK AND FORTH OVER WHAT WE COULD DO AND ENDED UP WITH THE FOUR ONE VOTE FOR DENIAL.
UM, I DO WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE LOCATION AND THE PRESENTATION.
WE HAVE A BUNCH OF YOUNG FAMILIES LIKE MINE THAT ARE GROWING, BUT WE HAVE AN AGING COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE A LOT, I DON'T REMEMBER THE LAST STATISTICAL DATA, BUT WHEN WE DID THE REDISTRICTING, I WAS LOOKING AT THE AGE COMPARISONS.
AND OVER 40% OF OUR COMMUNITY IS 60 PLUS.
AND THERE'S ANOTHER COMMUNITY THAT I VISITED FAIRLY FREQUENTLY.
THE MAIN STREET IS FLORIDA AND THEIR BANKS, CHURCHES, AND MORTUARIES ALL THE WAY DOWN FLORIDA.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH BUSINESS BEING NEXT TO A CREMATORIUM.
ALTHOUGH THAT WAS BEFORE I KNEW THAT CREMATORIUMS MIGHT NOT ACTUALLY BE A CREMATORIUM.
UM, I'VE ALWAYS ASSUMED, UH, UNTIL MR. ZAKAR ENLIGHTENED ME THAT FIRST MEETING, I ALWAYS ASSUMED HE HAD A CREMATORIUM IN THE MORTUARY.
UM, THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED IN OUR COMMUNITY.
THE, THE WHATEVER RESOURCE CENTER THAT WAS THERE, I WATCHED WHEN THEY TORE THE PLAYGROUND DOWN, WENT, WHAT'S GOING TO GO IN THERE? MM-HMM.
I DON'T THINK THAT THE SIGNAGE IS GOING TO SCARE ANYBODY AWAY.
I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S GOING TO GO, OH NO.
EL CAJON PEOPLE DIE THERE
AND LIKE YOU SAID, IF YOU'RE AT HAMPTON INN URBAN CAFE IN AND OUT, YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THIS IS HERE.
BUT FOR THE PEOPLE OF ELCON WHEN THEY GET HERE, WHEN THEY GET TO THIS POINT WHERE THEY NEED SOMEBODY TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR LOVED ONE, TO KNOW THAT THEIR LOVED ONE WHO PASSED AWAY, THEIR BODY IS STILL HERE IN ELCON.
NOT BEING SHIPPED UP TO VISTA, NOT GOING TO RIVERSIDE, AND THEN COMING BACK, BUT STAYING IN OUR CITY THAT WILL DRAW PEOPLE TO THIS COMMUNITY THAT WILL DRAW PEOPLE AND BUSINESS TO OUR AREA BECAUSE WE HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL.
ANYONE ELSE CARE TO CARE TO COMMENT? OKAY.
SO, UM, CURRENTLY WHAT WE HAVE IS WE HAVE A, A, UH, A MOVE TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION, DENYING IT.
HOWEVER, BARBARA, IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE WANT TO HAVE YOU GUYS GO BACK AND, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT IT AT A, ADOPTING A RESOLUTION, APPROVING IT, UM, BASICALLY FOR, UH, COUPLE REASONS.
IF YOU COULD BRING BACK UP THE, UH, THE FINDINGS, UM, IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE.
IT WOULD BE A CONVENIENCE AND, UH, A NECESSITY.
AND I DO BELIEVE IT WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING USES.
THOSE WOULD BE ENOUGH FINDINGS FOR ME.
UM, AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE STAFF.
I'D LIKE TO, IF WE COULD, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONTINUE AND TO BRING THIS BACK WITH A, UH, RESOLUTION APPROVING IT.
IS THAT HOW WE WANNA DO THAT? UH, YES.
UH, AND SO I'VE NOTED, UH, BASED ON THE DISCUSSION, UH, THAT THE COMMISSION TALKED ABOUT THIS BEING A, A REGIONAL SERVING ASSET AND THAT THE DESIGN WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND USES, WHICH ARE THE ALTERNATIVE FINDINGS AS IT RELATES TO IT.
UM, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO CONTINUE IT TO THE NEXT, UH, SCHEDULED PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ON FEBRUARY 7TH, AND
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THEN STAFF WILL RETURN WITH A RESOLUTION, UH, A DRAFT RESOLUTION FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO CONSIDER.THAT ALSO INCLUDES OPERATIONAL, UH, CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
SO I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO CONTINUE.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MAROSE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ERCO.
SO WE WILL SEE YOU IN A PROBABLY THE NEXT MEETING.
I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND RECESS FOR A QUICK FIVE MINUTES BEFORE WE GET TO THE FINAL AGENDA ITEM, IF YOU DON'T MIND.