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[ CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Bill Wells]

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THE MEDIAN'S CALLED THE ORDER, AND I'LL ASK THE CITY CLERK TO CALL THE RULE COUNCIL MEMBER.

KENDRICK IS ABSENT.

ALL OTHERS ARE PRESENT.

WOULD YOU ALL PLEASE STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THEN REMAIN STANDING FOR A BRIEF MOMENT OF SILENCE? PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.

ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

THANK YOU.

[ POSTINGS: The City Clerk posted Orders of Adjournment of the November 8, 2022, Joint Special Meeting and the Agenda of the December 13, 2022, Meetings in accordance to State Law and City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the Redevelopment Agency Policy.]

THE CITY CLERK POSTED ORDERS OF ADJOURNMENT OF THE NOVEMBER 8TH, 2022 MEETING AND THE AGENDA OF THE DECEMBER 13TH, 2022 MEETING IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW, CITY COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY POLICY.

NO, THAT'S OKAY, .

I HATE IT WHEN THAT HAPPENS.

.

ALL RIGHT.

UM,

[ AGENDA CHANGES:]

AGENDA CHANGES.

STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANY AGENDA CHANGES? UH, MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I'D RECOMMEND THAT WE ADD IN A, UM, TO THE PRESENTATIONS ACCOMMODATION FOR CHIEF STEVE SWEENEY AND ADD IT TO THE END OF THE PRESENTATIONS.

SOUNDS GREAT.

UM, HOW ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBERS? NO.

ALL RIGHT, THEN I, I'LL NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE AGENDA CHANGES.

COME, MOVE.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

[ PRESENTATIONS: International Rescue Committee Resident Leadership Academy California Department of Insurance ]

OUR FIRST PRESENTATION IS FROM THE INTERNATIONAL RESCUE COMMITTEE, RESIDENT LEADERSHIP ACADEMY.

WELL, GOON ESPALDA, PLEASE COME UP TO THE PODIUM AND SHARE WITH US.

HI.

YEAH.

BRING, BRING UP ANYBODY WHO YOU WANT.

THANKS.

HELLO.

WELCOME.

HI, EVERYONE.

UH, ACTUALLY, WE THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE CHANCE TODAY IN ORDER TO SHARE SOME CONCERNS AND ISSUES REGARDING THE, UH, OKAH CITY, UH, BASIC SERVICES.

AND, UH, ACTUALLY, WE ARE A GROUP OF, UH, GRADUATE FROM, UH, UH, RESIDENTIAL LEADERSHIP ACADEMY, SPONSORED BY, UH, I R AND HAN.

AND MY NAME IS FARDA.

MY NAME IS AK, AND MY NAME IS GOUM.

I AM THE IN CHARGE PERSON FROM THE IRC.

I AM THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT COORDINATOR WORKING FOR THE I RRC.

AND THIS PART, UH, PARTICIPANTS WERE, YOU KNOW, ATTENDED TO THE RESIDENT LEADERSHIP ACADEMY PROGRAM, WHICH IS FOUNDED BY THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO.

SO THEY ARE GRADUATED AND THEY CONCERN ABOUT SOME ISSUES REGARDING THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEIR, UH, YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY.

THEY ARE GRADUATED AND THEY DEVELOPED A C I P COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT.

THEY WANT TO BRING SOME CHANGES, POSITIVE CHANGES THAT THEY FEEL THEY ARE VERY NECESSARY FOR THEIR COMMUNITY, AND THEY ARE PRESENTING.

OKAY.

I'M SK HI.

UH, HELLO.

I'M YAMIN YAMIN.

OKAY.

UH, AS YOU KNOW THAT HAN CITIES CONSIST OF A BIG POPULATION FROM DIFFERENT ETHNICITIES AND GROUPS AND CULTURE BACKGROUND.

IN 2022, THE, UH, BARRIER OF CENSUS AND THE UNITED STATES IS, UH, UH, HAN CITY POPULATION IS REACHED THE 107,005, UH, HUNDRED 63 PEOPLE.

AND IN THIS CITY, WE HAVE A LACK OF SOME BASIC SERVICES AND A FEW, UH, UH, UH, SPOTS, UH, THAT WE GONNA GO THROUGH THE OTHER UPCOMING SLIDES REGARDING THE STREET, UH, PLANNING.

AND, UH, UH, THERE ARE SOME STREETS IN EL CAJON CITY, UH, WHICH IS COMPLETELY DARK, AND, UH, IT'S LACK OF, UH, STREET LIGHTINGS AND SOME NEIGHBORHOOD AND SOME AVENUES.

AND, UH, ALSO SOME STREETS ARE, UH, UH, LONG, UH, WHERE ARE THOSE? NO, UH, CROSSWALKING AREA.

THERE ARE NO STOP SIGN.

THERE ARE, UH, NO BUMPS.

SO IT CAN MAKE IT EASY FOR PEOPLE TO CROSS THE STREETS OR, UH, ENHANCE THE WALKABILITY FOR PEOPLE WHO WANNA WALK INSTEAD OF, UH, DRIVING ACTUALLY.

AND, UH, UH, SOME

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LONG STREETS IN EL CAHAN DO HAVE, UH, MULTIPLE TRAFFIC LIGHTS, BUT STILL, THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THAT STOP, UH, THOSE, UH, FAST DRIVERS IN ORDER, UH, TO MAINTAIN SECURITY AND SAFETY FOR THESE, UH, TRAFFICS IN THE CITY.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THIS IS REGARDING THE VALENTINE'S STREET.

UH, THERE IS THE NUMBER, LIKE WHEN WE CAME FROM THE MAIN STREET, STREET TO THE VALENTINE'S STREET FROM THE, LIKE THE SEVEN 11 AT THE CORNER UNTIL THE PARK.

IT'S ABOUT FIVE BLOCKS, WHICH ABOUT TAKE FIVE MINUTES.

AND FROM THE, UH, PARK STREET UNTIL THE MEDICINE TREATS ABOUT THREE BLOCKS, AND IT TAKE ABOUT SIX MINUTES, UH, WALKING THEN FROM MEDICINE TILL THE BROADWAY IS ABOUT SEVEN BLOCK, WHICH TAKE ABOUT SIX MINUTES.

SO WE NEED MORE CROSS LINE FOR THE, UH, PEOPLE TO CROSS STREET BECAUSE HONESTLY, PREVIOUSLY, I, LIKE MANY PEOPLE I SEE WITHOUT THEY, BECAUSE IT'S LONG DISTANCE.

SO CROSS STREET WITH, WITH ANY, LIKE, ANY, UH, PART.

THANK YOU.

AND ALSO, WE HAVE SOME PROPOSED, UH, SOLUTIONS FOR, UH, THIS ISSUE, UH, LIKE SUPPLY AND, UH, MAINTAIN, UH, THE ROADS AND THE STREETS WHO ARE LONG WITH, UH, UH, CROSSWALKING AREAS OR STOP SIGNS BECAUSE WE KNOW SOMETIMES THE TRAFFIC LIGHT IS HARD, OR, AND COSTY ALSO, IT NEEDS KIND OF ALLOCATION FOR MONEY TO BE IMPLEMENTED.

BUT AT LEAST WE THINK ABOUT, UH, THE CROSSWALKING AREAS.

AND, UH, ALSO BUMPS THAT CAN, UH, RESTRICT THE, THOSE PEOPLE WHO, WHO USED TO DRIVE, UH, UH, FAST.

UH, ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S NOTHING TO STOP THEM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.

LIKE THERE'S NO STOP SIGN.

LIKE THERE'S NO, UH, TRAFFIC LIGHTS ALSO, UH, FOR THOSE LONG STREETS THAT WE, UH, UH, WE SUGGEST THAT IF IT IS POSSIBLE THAT TO PUT SOME PENSIONS IN, IN A CERTAIN, UH, STREETS WHO ARE LONG.

SO, UH, IT CAN ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY THE SENIOR PEOPLE, TO WALK, UH, MUCH BETTER THAN USING THE, THE, THE CARS OR SOMEBODY KIND OF DROVE THEM OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

SO THIS IS GONNA BE EASIER FOR THEM TO ACCESS THE STREET, TO WALK ALSO, TO HAVE REST, OR FOR, FOR, FOR SECONDS ON THESE PENSIONS.

THEN THEY RESUME THEIR WALKING.

AND, UH, UH, FINALLY, WE, WE SUGGEST THAT SOME PUMPS NEED TO BE INSTALLED IN THOSE LONG PART OF THE STREETS.

UH, SO IT CAN STOP THOSE FAST DRIVERS AND, UH, ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO CROSS THE, THE STREETS, UH, UH, SAFELY WITHOUT ANY RISK.

SO THE BENEFICIAL FOR THIS PROGRAM WILL BE THE AL CAHOUN PEOPLE FROM ALL AGES, ALSO THE EL CAJON CITY AND THE LAW ENFORCEMENT DEPARTMENT.

SO THE PROJECT TREND, IT WILL BE REASONABLE COST IN HIS SECURITY AND MAINTAINED PUBLIC SAFETY.

ALSO REDUCE THE POSSIBILITY OF ACCIDENTS AND SAFE LIFE FOR PEOPLE.

UH, THE WEAKNESS, TRAFFIC DELAYED DURING THE DAY OF THE WORK WHILE PLACING THE ROAD PUMP IN THE SELECTED, UNFORTUNATELY SERVE THE ENTIRE POPULATION OF AL CAJON AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO VISIT THE CITY FROM THE OUTSIDE.

ALSO, INHA, UH, ENHANCED CITIZEN, UH, ATION, INION MARKING THE THREAT THERE.

SOME DRIVER MIGHT BECOME AGGRESSIVE WHEN THEY SEE THE PUMP IN, UH, INSTALLED IN TARGET STREETS.

UH, CONSIDERING THAT MIGHT AFFECT THE FLOW OF THE TRAFFIC METHOD TRIP LONGER.

UH, REGARDING THE PROJECT WE HAVE, LIKE WHY, UH, WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE.

WE, UH, TRYING TO ACHIEVE, UH, PRESENT, UH, SAFER AND BRIGHT STREET VISION, UH, TO THE CITY OF THE EL CAHOUN.

WHY WE ARE DOING THIS TO HELP MORE PEOPLE AND FAMILIES FEEL SAFE AND SECURE, WALKING IN THE STREET, UH, IN THE EVENING, UH, WHICH ACTIVITIES WILL BE UNDERTAKEN FIRST INSTALLED MORE TRAFFIC LIGHTS.

SECOND, CREATE BUMPERS OR, UH, GROUNDED STREETS.

THIRD, INCREASE THE NUMBER OF VEGETARIAN, UH, CROSSWALK WHO WILL PLAY A ROLE IN THIS.

UH, THE RESIDENTIAL LEADERSHIP ACADEMY PARTICIPANT, THE COMMUNITY AND THE CITY MANAGEMENT WHO WILL FUND THIS PROGRAM BY THE GOVERNMENT.

AND WHEN WILL BE, UH, DONE BY, IT'S WITHIN SIX MONTHS.

SO THE OUTCOME OF THIS, UH, PROJECT WILL IMPROVE APPEARANCE IN LOCAL COMMUNITY AND INCREASE IN WALK BY TIP, UH, TRIPS, SORRY, IN, UH, AREA, UH, PRESERVE, PRESERVE AS MORE, UH, STRICTLY, UH, PLACING, ALSO INACTIVE BELIEVE.

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UH, THERE ARE TOO FEW, UH, STRAIGHT LIGHT AND CROSSWALK FACILITY PEOPLE WOULD USE, UH, TRAILS IF WE PROVIDED IN THEIR COMMUNITY.

ALSO, WE HAVE POSITIVE FEEDBACK AND SUPPORT FROM ALL SECTION OF THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU FOR WATCHING AND LISTENING.

ACTUALLY.

UH, ANY QUESTION IF YOU GUYS HAVE YEAH.

FIRST, FIRST OFF, IT, IT, HOW DID THIS ALL COME ABOUT? IS THIS PART OF A, UH, OF A, A PROGRAM THAT YOU ARE INVOLVED IN A, AN ACADEMY? I THINK YOU SAID IT WAS ACTUALLY, IT IS A TOPIC THAT WE CHOSE BASED ON OUR REGULAR MEETINGS THAT, UH, WE SPECIFY SOME, UH, BASIC SERVICE, UH, DELIVERY ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO, TO, THAT WE CAPTURED ALREADY.

AND SOME PEOPLE, THEY DELIVER THE, THE, THESE ISSUES TO US.

AND, UH, WE TRY TO MAKE A PROPOSAL ABOUT, UH, THESE ISSUES.

HOPEFULLY IT, IF, IF CAN BE SOLVED.

UH, I KNOW THINGS NEED TIME, THINGS NEED, UH, LOCATION OF MONEY ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

BUT HOPEFULLY A FEW GUYS CAN, UH, UH, WE TRY TO ATTRACT YOUR RETENTION, UH, TO THESE ISSUES BECAUSE THEY ARE, UH, IN TOUCH WITH THE LIFE OF PEOPLE AND THE SAFETY OF, UH, PEDESTRIAN AND THE PEOPLE OF EL CAJON AND ALL AGES.

WELL, IT WAS A NICE PRESENTATION.

UH, THANK YOU.

OBVIOUSLY TOOK A LOT OF WORK.

I, I APPRECIATE YOU DOING SO MUCH.

WELL, LET ME SEE IF THE COUNCIL HAS SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS.

STEVE, I THINK THERE'S SOME GOOD NEWS ALREADY.

THIS IS ACTUALLY A VERY COMPREHENSIVE AND WELL THOUGHT OUT PRESENTATION, SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME.

OKAY.

TO, TO MEET AND WORK ON IT.

UH, THERE'S A NEW STATE LAW IN JANUARY 1ST IN WHICH PEDESTRIANS DO NOT HAVE TO GO TO THE NEAREST CORNER TO CROSS THE STREET IN A CROSSWALK THEY MAY CROSS MID-BLOCK WITH, WITH THE PROVISION.

IT'S WHAT A NORMAL, UH, SITUATION WOULD BE.

A A, A REASONABLE, I THINK IS THE WORD THAT'S USED, WHAT A REASONABLE PERSON WOULD DO IN CROSSING THE STREET AND MID-BLOCK.

SO THAT'S A NEW STATE LAW IN JUST 19 DAYS.

OF COURSE, THERE ARE DANGERS INVOLVED WITH CROSSING THE STREET AND MID-BLOCK, AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT CHOICE, BUT THAT HELPS, UH, BREAK UP THE LONG STREET, UH, THING.

SO THAT, I THINK THE STATE GAVE YOU A SOME HELP ON THAT ONE ALREADY.

UM, THE STREETLIGHTS, I THINK WE'VE SET ASIDE ABOUT A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS IN SOME CERTAIN CENSUS AREA TO PUT STREETLIGHTS IN.

THE CITY MANAGER WOULD PROBABLY LOVE TO HEAR YOU ABOUT SPECIFIC STREETS THAT YOU THINK WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA.

I'M SURE YOU'D BE OPEN TO THAT.

USUALLY THAT HELPS, UH, BUMP THOSE STREETS A LITTLE HIGHER UP THE LIST IF THEY, WE HAVE LIST OF STREETS AND AVENUES ACTUALLY ON PICTURES, SO WE CAN SHARE IT LATER IF YOU GUYS NEED.

OH, ABSOLUTELY.

SEND THOSE TO CITY MANAGER.

OF COURSE.

UH, THE SPEED BUMPS A LITTLE CONCERNED BECAUSE THAT WOULD AFFECT EMERGENCY VEHICLES.

IMAGINE A FIRE ENGINE, A POLICE CAR, AND AN AMBULANCE GOING OVER A SPEED BUMP THAT MIGHT HAVE A SAFETY IMPACT, UH, ON PUBLIC SAFETY.

THE BENCHES I LIKE, ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE WITH BENCHES IN THE PARK OVER, UH, PROMENADE IS INSTALLED A BAR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BENCH MAKING IT DIFFICULT TO SLEEP ON THE BENCH.

AND SO I, I DO LIKE YOUR IDEA OF, UH, BENCHES JUST FOR AESTHETICS AROUND THE CITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO HOPEFULLY SOME OF THAT IS GOOD NEWS TO YOU.

THANK YOU, YOU SO MUCH.

PLEASE GO AHEAD, PLEASE.

SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IN YOUR GROUP KNOWS TO DOWNLOAD THE PHONE APP THAT YOU CAN REPORT.

WHEN YOU SEE A, A STREET THAT'S QUITE, UM, DARK, YOU CAN DOWNLOAD THE PHONE APP AND YOU CAN REPORT THAT DARK STREET.

THAT KIND OF HELPS GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE.

YES, I IMAGINE THAT CITY, UM, STAFF WILL TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT, BUT I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY DOWNLOAD THAT PHONE APP, MAKE THOSE, YOU KNOW, REQUESTS.

UM, AND IT WORKS.

THEY GET BACK TO YOU VERY QUICKLY.

AND I WAS USING THIS APP BEFORE I GOT ON THE COUNCIL AND GOT A STREET LIGHT IN MY CUL-DE-SAC AND THE CUL-DE-SAC NEXT TO ME BECAUSE IT WAS VERY DARK AND WE WERE HAVING BREAK-INS ONCE WE GOT THOSE STREET LIGHTS IN THE BREAK-IN STOPPED.

AND SO IT IS, IT LIGHTS UP THE WHOLE CUL-DE-SAC.

SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THAT.

I ALSO LIVE ON A LONG STREET.

I LIVE RIGHT OFF MOLLISON.

MOLLISON IS VERY LONG AND A LOT OF VERY FAST DRIVERS.

AND I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE PUTTING SPEED BUMPS IN.

WHILE I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE IT WOULD SLOW PEOPLE DOWN.

I, THE, UH, FIRE STATION THAT'S RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER FROM MY HOUSE WOULD NOT.

SO, UM, PLEASE BEAR THAT IN MIND.

BUT IT VERY EXCELLENT PRESENTATION.

YOU GUYS DID A VERY THOROUGH JOB AND IT ECHOES WHAT WE HERE ON THE COUNCIL HAVE TALKED ABOUT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU.

ANOTHER QUESTIONS REALLY QUICKLY.

I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE REPORT AND INVESTING YOUR TIME INTO THE CITY OF EL CAJON.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

I ALWAYS SAY, AND I KNOW MY COLLEAGUES SAY AS WELL, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE A SMALL TOWN, THE CITY'S TOO BIG FOR US TO SEE EVERYTHING, RIGHT? AND SO WE REALLY RELY ON COMMUNITY GROUPS AND RESIDENTS TO COME IN AND

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TELL US THERE'S A STREET LIGHT OUT, THERE'S NO STREET LIGHTS HERE, THERE'S SPEEDERS HERE.

CUZ WE, EVEN THOUGH WE LIVE HERE, WE DON'T SEE EVERYTHING.

SO PLEASE DON'T LET THIS BE THE LAST TIME YOU REPORT TO US AND LET US KNOW ANY ISSUES YOU SEE CUZ WE REALLY RELY ON THE RESIDENTS TO BE OUR EYES AND EARS OUT THERE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT I'D LIKE TO INVITE ANDREA VALDEZ OUTREACH ANALYST TO SHARE WITH US ABOUT THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE.

HI, ANDREA.

HI.

OH, THANK YOU, .

NO PROBLEM.

USE THIS CLICKER HERE.

OKAY, COOL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

OKAY, WE GOOD? PERFECT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME TODAY.

I REALLY APPRECIATE IT, UM, FOR LETTING ME PRESENT TODAY.

SO AGAIN, MY NAME IS ANDREA VALDEZ AND I'M AN OUTREACH ANALYST FOR THE DEPARTMENT'S COMMUNITY RELATIONS AND OUTREACH BRANCH.

I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A LOT OF TOPICS TODAY, SO I'LL BE MINDFUL OF YOUR TIME.

SO TODAY I'M JUST GONNA TALK ABOUT A BRIEF OVERVIEW ABOUT THE CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE, ALSO KNOWN AS CDI.

THAT INCLUDES A SHORT UPDATE ON OUR CURRENT CONSUMER PROTECTION, THEN INFORMATION ON OUR SENIOR RESOURCES, THEN WHAT THE CALIFORNIA LAW ON AUTO INSURANCE IS AND WHY YOU NEED AUTO INSURANCE.

THEN I'LL INTRODUCE YOU TO THAT CALIFORNIA LOW-COST AUTO PROGRAM, WHAT IT IS, HOW YOU QUALIFY, AND HOW YOU CAN APPLY FOR THE PROGRAM.

AND THEN NEXT, HOW WE CAN PARTNER TOGETHER AND SHARE THIS WITH YOUR COMMUNITY.

SO I WANNA START OFF BY SAYING THEY ACTUALLY DO NOT SELL INSURANCE.

WE REGULATE ALL LINES OF INSURANCE, INCLUDING HOMEOWNERS, AUTO LIFE INSURANCE, AND MANY MORE.

WE ALSO REGULATE THE INSURANCE COMPANIES, AGENTS AND BROKERS THAT SELL INSURANCE.

AND CALIFORNIA INSURANCE COMPANIES COLLECT OVER 340 BILLION IN ANNUAL PREMIUMS. AND THAT'S WHAT YOU AND I PAY IN PREMIUMS. YOUR CURRENT ELECTED INSURANCE COMMISSIONER IS RICARDO LARA, AND HE ENSURES THAT INSURERS ARE SOLVENT, CONSUMER COMPLAINTS ARE ADDRESSED IN A REASONABLE MANNER AND ENSURES AND LICENSEES PLAY FAIRLY IN THE MARKETPLACE.

SO EVERYTHING THAT WE DO AT CDIS TO PROTECT CONSUMERS FROM FRAUD AND ABUSE.

SO WHAT CAN WE DO FOR YOU, THE CONSUMER? ANYTIME YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT INSURANCE, PLEASE CONTACT US.

IF YOU'RE SHOPPING FOR INSURANCE AND WANT TO KNOW MORE, VISIT OUR WEBSITE.

A BIG ONE IS IF YOU'RE DENIED A CLAIM OR COVERAGE, YOUR AGENT OR INSURANCE COMPANY NOT RETURN YOUR CALLS, CALL US.

PLEASE FILE A FORMAL COMPLAINT LIKE WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU.

SO ON OUR WEBSITE, WE HAVE A LOT OF EDUCATIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT EVERY LINE OF INSURANCE.

WE HAVE RESOURCES, PHONE NUMBERS, UM, SO THAT IN WEBSITE IS INSURANCE.CA.GOV.

SO JUST A QUICK UPDATE ABOUT OUR SALE, UH, SAVER FROM WILDFIRES.

SO WHEN COMMISSIONER RICARDO LARA CAME INTO OFFICE, HE LISTENED TO CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS AND FIRST RESPONDERS TO TACKLE THE IMMEDIATE NEEDS.

AND ONE OF THE MAJOR ISSUES, UM, THAT WE HEARD ACROSS THE STATE IS NON-RENEWALS AND PREMIUM INCREASES FOR HOMES AND BUSINESSES.

SO, TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE THIS YEAR, COMMISSIONER LAR LAUNCHED SAFER FROM WILDFIRES.

IT'S OUR STATE'S FIRST LARGE INTERAGENCY PARTNERSHIP TO PROTECT LIVES, HOMES, AND BUSINESSES BY REDUCING WILDFIRE RISKS.

SO IT IS A THREE STEP PROCESS.

YOU CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT IT ONLINE.

UH, THE PUBLIC HEARING HEARING WAS HELD IN APRIL, AND WE SHOULD KNOW MORE ABOUT IT IN, UH, 2023.

ANOTHER THING THAT WE OFFER AT CDI IS SENIOR RESOURCES.

SO THIS IS ANOTHER PROGRAM, IT'S OUR SENIOR GATEWAY PORTAL, WHICH IS A ONE-STOP SHOP FOR CAREGIVERS.

AND THEIR, UM, FOR SENIORS AND THEIR CARE CAREGIVERS IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN MANY STATE AGENCIES WITH EVERYTHING IN ONE SPOT, YOU'RE GONNA FIND INFORMATION ON TOPICS SUCH AS AVOIDING AND REPORTING ABUSE AND NEGLECT, PREVENTING FRAUD, HEALTHCARE INFORMATION AND YOUR RIGHTS.

AND THAT WEBSITE IS@SENIORS.INSURANCE.CA.GOV.

SO ONE BIG THING THAT WE DO OFFER AT, UH, CDI IS OUR CALIFORNIA LOW COST AUTO PROGRAM.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO HAVE AUTO INSURANCE.

IT IS THE LAW.

IF YOU DRIVE A CAL CAR IN CALIFORNIA, THE LAW SAYS YOU NEED TO HAVE EVIDENCE OF FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY.

SO ONE WAY IS TO BUY AUTO INSURANCE.

AT MINIMUM, YOU HAVE TO HAVE LIABILITY INSURANCE.

LIABILITY INSURANCE MEANS IF YOU CAUSE DAMAGE TO SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR IT.

IT WILL NOT COVER DAMAGES TO THE CAR THAT YOU CAUSE IF YOU GET PULLED OVER, YOU HAVE TO PROVE YOU HAVE AUTO INSURANCE.

YOU CAN BE FINE.

YOUR LICENSE IS SUSPENDED, YOUR VEHICLE IMPOUNDED, ALL THESE COSTS CUT, ADD UP TO MORE THAN WOULD IT BE FOR THE STATE-SPONSORED PROGRAM.

SO, UM, OUR C C A POLICY OFFERS THE BASIC MINIMUM LIABILITY COVERAGE TO DRIVE LEGALLY.

SINCE ITS INCEPTION, THE PROGRAM HAS EVOLVED AND NOW IT'S AVAILABLE TO ALMOST ALL TO MODERATE INCOME CALIFORNIANS.

AS LONG AS YOUR INCOME ELIGIBLE AND NOT A BAD DRIVER, YOU CAN QUALIFY.

SO YOU'RE PROBABLY ASKING, HOW DO I QUALIFY? UM, FIRST YOU HAVE TO HAVE A VALID DRIVER'S LICENSE.

SECOND, THE VALUE OF THE CAR HAS TO BE UNDER 25,000 AND

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NOT FINANCED WITH THE LOAN.

NEXT, CHECK YOUR INCOME LEVEL.

IT IS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD.

YOU HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 16 YEARS OLD.

AND LASTLY, YOU CANNOT HAVE A BAD DRIVING RECORD.

IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE POINT AT ON YOUR RECORD OR AN AT FAULT ACCIDENT WITH BODILY INJURY, YOU WILL NOT QUALIFY.

SO WE DO HAVE OUR INCOME ELIGIBILITY GUIDELINES HERE.

IF YOU HAVE A FOUR PERSON HOUSEHOLD, THE MAXIMUM INCOME LEVEL IS $69,375.

AND IT'S BASED, UM, IF YOU QUALIFY FOR OTHER PROGRAMS WITHIN THE STATE, THEN YOU WILL QUALIFY FOR THIS PROGRAM AS WELL.

YOU CAN SHOW YOUR PROOF OF INCOME, SO A PAYCHECK STUB, W2 10 99, OR ANY STATEMENT OR BENEFIT FROM AN UNEMPLOYMENT OR SSI, UH, STATEMENT.

AND IF YOU'RE CURRENTLY ENROLLED IN ANOTHER STATE OR COUNTY PROGRAM LIKE CALFRESH, CALWORKS, MEDI-CAL, YOU'RE ALSO GONNA QUALIFY FOR THAT CLC PROGRAM BASED ON INCOME.

SO YOU CAN APPLY BY GOING ONLINE TO MY LOW COST AUTO.COM.

YOU CAN TAKE THAT ELIGIBILITY QUESTIONNAIRE.

IT'S ONLY SEVEN QUESTIONS.

YOU CAN FILL OUT AN ONLINE APPLICATION, AND THEN AN AGENT'S GONNA CONTACT YOU TO GATHER THOSE DOCUMENTS AND COLLECT THAT DOWN PAYMENT.

AND THEN ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE DO HAVE A CHAT FEATURE.

IT IS ALSO AVAILABLE IN ENGLISH AND IN SPANISH.

SO YOU'RE PROBABLY THINKING, YEAH, WE HAVE A LOT OF GREAT RE RESOURCES AT CDI.

SO JUST HELP US GET THE WORD OUT.

UM, SHARE THE C C PROGRAM AND INFO ON YOUR WEBSITE AND SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS. INVITE US TO YOUR OUTREACH EVENTS.

I ATTEND SO MANY OF OUTREACH EVENTS IN SAN DIEGO, WHETHER IT'S SENIORS, C L C A, UM, SAFER FROM WILDFIRES HAS BEEN A BIG ONE AS WELL.

UM, AND REFERS TO ANY PARTNERS THAT WORK TO LOW TO MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLD.

UM, IN ADDITION, WE HAVE A LOT OF FREE, UH, FREE BROCHURES.

I CAN ALWAYS GET THOSE OUT.

SO ANY MORE QUESTIONS ON THAT C C A? YOU CAN GO TO MY LOWCOST AUTO.COM.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WITH CON UH, INSURANCE? AGAIN, I ALWAYS LIKE TO REMIND COMPLAINTS IF YOU HAVE ANY COMPLAINTS.

UH, WE DO HAVE OUR CONSUMER HOTLINE THERE.

THAT'S THAT ONE.

809 2 7 4 3 5 7.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME TODAY.

ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, SOMETHING TELLS ME THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME YOU'VE GIVEN THIS TALK.

NO, I I'VE GIVEN A LOT YEAH.

DONE IN THE COMP TIMES , UH, NICE.

UH, LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION.

I HAD NO IDEA THAT THAT PROGRAM EVEN EXISTED.

YEAH.

SO, UH, LET ME SEE IF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

I THINK YOU WERE SO, UH, PERVASIVE IN YOUR, IN YOUR PRESENTATION THAT YOU ANSWERED ALL THE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I APPRECIATE YOU FOR COMING.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

AND NOW WE HAVE ACCOMMODATION FOR FIRE CHIEF, UH, UH, FIRE CHIEF STEVE S SWEENEY.

UH, CHIEF, WOULD YOU MIND COMING UP AND COUNSEL, WOULD YOU MIND COMING DOWN? STEVE, IF YOU WANNA COME IN? OKAY.

SO, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, WE WERE NOTIFIED BY OUR FIRE CHIEF STEVE S SWEENEY THAT HE DECIDED TO RETIRE.

AND, UM, WE, UH, HAVE REALLY ENJOYED WORKING WITH HIM AND HIS STAFF PUT TOGETHER A COMMENDATION THAT, THAT AT THE, I'D LIKE TO PRESENT ON HIS BEHALF OR THE MAYOR, YOU HAVE IT, BUT I'LL I'LL READ IT IF YOU DON'T MIND.

COUNSEL.

UM, COMMENDATION HONORING STEVE SWEENEY, FIRE CHIEF STEVE SWEENEY HAS BEEN PROVIDING EMERGENCY SERVICES TO EAST COUNTY RESIDENCE FOR FOUR DECADES.

HE HAS BEEN WITH THE CITY OF EL CAJON FOR 37 YEARS, SHARING HIS EXPERTISE WITH OUR COMMUNITY.

HE JOINED THE EL CAJON FIRE DEPARTMENT AS A FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC IN 1985 WITH EXCELLENT LEADERSHIP SKILLS, WORK EFFICIENCY, INGENUITY, AND PERSEVERANCE.

HE QUICKLY PROGRESSED TO, TO THE RANKS.

STEVE WAS PROMOTED TO FIRE ENGINEER IN JANUARY, 1999 AND FIRE CAPTAIN LATER THAT YEAR.

IN 1999, FIRE, UH, BATTALION CHIEF IN 2010, DIVISION CHIEF IN 2013, AND ULTIMATELY LEADING THE HEARTLAND FIRE AND RESCUE DEPARTMENT AS A FIRE CHIEF APPOINTED IN OCTOBER, 2018.

PRIOR TO HIS SERVICE WITH THE CITY OF EL CAJON FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THEN HEARTLAND FIRE AND RESCUE, HE WAS AN EMT PARAMEDIC WITH THE COUNTY FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

STEVE LATER BECAME A FLIGHT MEDIC AND WORKED IN CRITICAL AIR TO TEND TO PATIENTS WHILE IN THE AIR.

IN 1992, STEVE JOINED THE CALIFORNIA TASK FORCE EIGHT URBAN SEARCH AND RESCUE AS A TEAM MEMBER.

AFTER DEPLOYMENT TO THE 1996 ATLANTIC OLYMPIC, ATLANTA OLYMPIC GAME BOMBINGS, STEVE STARTED THE CANINE DIVISION WITH THE TASK FORCE WHERE HE WAS PARTNERED WITH FIRST, PARTNERED WITH SHERMAN, A DEVOTED CHOCOLATE LAB LABRADOR.

STEVEN SHERMAN BECAME THE FIRST K NINE TEAM SEARCH TEAM IN THE COUNTY, EVER TO BE CERTIFIED BY FEMA.

THEY SERVED SEVERAL LOCAL MISSIONS BEFORE BEING DEPLOYED TO GROUND ZERO.

SHORTLY AFTER THE NINE 11 TERRACE

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ATTACKS IN NEW YORK CITY.

STEVE WAS ALSO PARTNERED WITH TWO OTHER CANINES DURING HIS TIME IN THE CANINE DIVISION.

UH, BOTH ICON, A YELLOW LAB AND TANK, A BLACK LAB.

STEVE AND HIS CANINES ARE DEPLOYED ON NUMEROUS SEARCH AND RESCUE MISSIONS DURING THEIR TIME TOGETHER AND WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING TO TRAIN OTHER TEAMS THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA.

STEVE IS NOT JUST A MENTOR AND A LEADER IN THIS COUNTY, BUT ALSO ACROSS THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

HE WAS DEPLOYED ON MANY FIRES AND EMERGENCY INCIDENTS WHERE HE WORKED AS AN ESSENTIAL MEMBER OF THE INCIDENT MANAGEMENT TEAM IN CARRYING OUT THE TEAM'S MISSION.

STEVE HAS BEEN A LONG-STANDING CONTRIBUTOR, SUPPORTER AND CADRE MEMBER OF THE SAN DIEGO WILDLAND PREPAREDNESS EXERCISE.

STEVE HAS BEEN A COMMITTEE MEMBER AND A LIAISON TO THE COUNTY.

THE COUNTY'S, UH, CHIEF SECTION HAS SERVED AS THE CHAIR AND BOARD MEMBER OF HEARTLAND FIRE, UM, HEARTLAND TRAINING FACILITY AND HEARTLAND COMMUNICATIONS FACILITY AUTHORITY.

STEVE'S CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE CITY, HIS FORWARD THINKING, HIS CAN-DO ATTITUDE HAVE ENDEARED HIM THE RESPECT OF THE DEPARTMENT, HIS COLLEAGUES AND COMMUNITY FROM HIRE TO RETIRE.

STEVE SWEENEY WILL ALWAYS DO WHAT'S RIGHT AND DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY OF EL CAJON, THE DEPARTMENT AND THE REGION.

WE ARE FORTUNATE TO HAVE HIM REPRESENT US AND HAVE THIS CALIBER OF MAN IN DEDICATION TO BE PART OF OUR TEAM.

NOW, THEREFORE, ON BEHALF OF BILL WELLS, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF EL CAJON, TOGETHER WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, THEY DO HEREBY COMMEND AND CONGRATULATE CHIEFS CHIEF FIRE CHIEF STEVE SWEENEY, ON A VERY SUCCESSFUL CAREER AT THE CITY OF EL CAJON AND HEARTLAND FIRE AND RESCUE.

WE ALL WISH STEVE AND HIS FAMILY GOOD HEALTH AND MUCH HAPPINESS FOR YEARS TO COME.

IT'S BEEN A, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SIT DOWN AND PUT IT ALL ON PAPER, YOU START TALKING ABOUT IT.

IT'S LIKE, GUESS THAT'S A LOT.

.

BE HONEST, WITH FEW FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT, WHEN I WORKED THERE, AND PARAMEDICS.

SO THAT'S HOW MEET THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TODAY TO START THEM OFF WITH THEIR, THEIR VERY BEGINNING.

SO, UM, THIS CITY IS AN OUTSTANDING CITY TO WORK.

I DID MY PARAMEDIC INTERNSHIP HERE BACK IN DEPARTMENT.

OUTSTANDING EXECUTIVE TEAM, OUTSTANDING LEADERSHIP IN THE CITY AND MY PURPOSE, HONOR, THANK, THANK THE CHIEF AGAIN.

UH, HE SERVED US WITH HONOR AND DISTINCTION.

WE HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT, UH, THE ENTIRE COUNTY LOOKS TO THAT THE WE'RE PROUD OF AT THE STATE, EVEN THE NATIONAL LEVEL.

AND, UH, SO MUCH OF THAT IS, UH, BASED UPON ALL WHAT YOU BROUGHT TO THE CITY AND TO YOUR DEPARTMENT.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE AND I HOPE THAT, UH, YOU ENJOY YOUR RETIREMENT.

I WILL THERE AS, AS YOU HEAD BACK TO THE, THE DIAS.

YOU KNOW, WE READ A LOT OF, OF STEVE'S RESUME AND SOME OF THE BIG ACCOMPLISHMENTS, BUT, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE EASY TO PUT ON PAPER.

AND I'LL BE HONEST, A LOT OF US COULD DO THAT IF WE SPENT 37 YEARS IN WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

BUT IT'S THE LITTLE THINGS THAT CHIEF SWEENEY DOES.

IT'S THE INNOVATIVENESS.

IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS WILLING TO DO ANYTHING FOR THE TEAM'S, WHAT'S APPRECIATED.

AND I, YOU KNOW, I, SOMEONE'S SHARED WITH ME A STORY OF WHEN HE WAS A, A LOWLY FIRE CAPTAIN WITH THE CITY OF EL CAJON.

AND, UH, HE WAS, UH, HAD ANOTHER, NOW A FIRE CAPTAIN, BUT A, A NEW FIRE FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC ON HIS, ON HIS CREW.

AND THAT FIREFIGHTER PARAMEDIC HAD A FIRE IN HIS OWN HOUSE, BURNED DOWN HIS KITCHEN, AND CHIEF SWEENEY CAME IN ON HIS DAY OFF UNANNOUNCED WITH ALL THE SUPPLIES AND EQUIPMENT AND REBUILD THAT, THAT FIREFIGHTER'S KITCHEN.

THAT'S THE KIND OF GUY THAT STEVE SWEENEY IS.

AND WE JUST NEED MORE PEOPLE LIKE THAT IN THE WORLD.

SO THANK YOU.

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WELL,

[7. CONSENT ITEMS: Consent Items are routine matters enacted by one motion according to the RECOMMENDATION listed below. With the concurrence of the City Council, a Council Member or person in attendance may request discussion of a Consent Item at this time.]

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT, WE'RE NOW AT CONSENT ITEMS. CONSENT ITEMS OR ROUTINE MATTERS ENACTED BY ONE MOTION ACCORDING TO THE RECOMMENDATION LISTED BELOW WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

A COUNCIL MEMBER OR PERSON IN THE TENANTS MAY REQUEST DISCUSSION OF A CONSENT ITEM AT THIS TIME.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO YOU WANNA PULL ANY OF THE CONSENT ITEMS? STAFF? YES, SIR.

ANGELA, DO WE HAVE YOUR SPEAKER CARDS FOR CONSENT ITEMS? WE DO NOT, SIR.

ALL RIGHT, THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS. SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

[ PUBLIC COMMENT: At this time, any person may address a matter within the jurisdiction of the City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the El Cajon Redevelopment Agency that is not on the Agenda. Comments relating to items on today’s docket are to be taken at the time the item is heard. State law prohibits discussion or action on items not on the Agenda; however, Council, Authority and Agency Members may briefly respond to statements or questions. An item may be placed on a future Agenda.]

WE'RE NOW A PUBLIC COMMENT.

THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS A MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AUTHORITY'S SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE ELAH REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDAS RELATING TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA ARE TO BE TAKEN AT THE TIME THE ADAM IS HEARD.

STATE LAW PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

HOWEVER, CITY COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND TO THE STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS, AND AN ITEM MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, SIR.

WE HAVE ONE FROM KENNETH KESTER.

HI, MR. KESTER.

HELLO, YOUR HONOR.

HELLO, MR. KESTER.

UM, WHEN I CAME HERE OF GETTING READY, OPENED THE DOOR AND THERE WERE TWO MOTORCYCLE COPS 20 FEET AWAY FROM ME.

OKAY, THAT'S INCONSEQUENTIAL RIGHT NOW.

JUST RANDOM, BUT IT'LL COME OUT LATER.

I'M, UM, ASKING YOU TO ASK YOUR POLICE CHIEF TO GIVE ME FOUR HOURS IN ONE OF YOUR INTERROGATION ROOMS. I HAVE A LOT TO TALK ABOUT, AND I'M THE MOST STALKED PERSON ON EARTH.

I CAN PROVE IT AMONG AND I I CAN'T DO IT HERE IN THREE MINUTES, AND I, IF I JUST GO TO THEM AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO IT.

SO RIGHT NOW, THIS IS BETWEEN YOU AND ME.

I'M ONE OF YOUR CITIZENS.

I'M ASKING YOU TO TELL YOUR POLICE CHIEF TO FRIDAY.

I'M GONNA COME HERE AT 12 NOON AT THE POLICE STATION.

I'M GONNA ASK THE CLERK FOR THE POLICE CHIEF.

HOPEFULLY HE'LL COME OUT AND ME TO AN INTERROGATION ROOM THAT'LL BE VIDEOED.

AND YOU'RE JUST GONNA LEAVE ME THERE AND YOU'RE GONNA, AND YOU'RE GONNA VIDEO IT AND YOU'RE GONNA LET ME SPILL MY GUTS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENED TO MY LIFE IN THIS AREA AND EVERYWHERE ELSE.

AND A LOT OF THINGS WILL BECOME CLEAR.

I WOULD ALSO, UM, LIKE SOMEONE FROM THE STATE FIRE, I'M NOT, I'M NOT TALKING TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HERE.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE A NUMBER OF SOMEONE FROM THE STATE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY TO THEM, MARSHALL, SOMETHING.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS OR AN, OR AN FBI AGENT OR A STATE, UM, A STATE POLICE OFFICER.

BUT I'M, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THE ANY LOCALS HERE.

SO I WILL BE BY FRIDAY AT NOON AT THE, UM, STATION UP THERE.

AND I JUST WANT TO GO BE PUT IN A ROOM.

I WANT TO VIDEOED AND I'M GONNA SPILL MY GUTS.

PLEASE ACCOMMODATE ME, SIR.

THANKS FOR COMING.

IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH A LOT.

THANK ANYBODY ELSE? NO OTHER SPEAKER, SIR.

UH, ALL RIGHT.

THERE ARE NO WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

ITEM 12 IS REGARDING OFF SALES, ALCOHOL SALES AND PARKWAY PLAZA.

AND I'LL ASK OUR STAFF TO TELL US ABOUT THIS.

HELLO, NOAH.

HOW ARE YOU? GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNSEL.

ALL RIGHT.

SO, UH, THIS ITEM TODAY IS A REQUEST BY THE ALDI GROCERY STORE COMPANY, UH, TO AMEND SP THE SPECIFIC PLAN FOR PARKWAY PLAZA, AND THAT'S TO ALLOW MORE BUSINESSES TO SELL OFF SALE ALCOHOL AT THE MALL.

SO THE ALDI GROCERY STORE IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND IS LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE MALL.

AND IT'S IN THE FORMER LOCATION OF THE OFFICE DEPOT.

SO ALDI HAD PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED THE ALCOHOL TO ADD ALCOHOL SALES TO THE STORE.

UH, BUT THAT REQUEST WAS DENIED BY THE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE DEEMED APPROVED ALCOHOL SALES ORDINANCE, UH, DICTATES THAT WE CAN'T ADD ADDITIONAL OFF SALE ALCOHOL SALES LICENSES TO CENSUS TRACKS THAT HAVE AN OVER CONCENTRATION.

SO, FOLLOWING THE PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING, UH, STAFF MET WITH, UH, ALL DESTROY REPRESENTATIVES AND TRIED

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TO THINK PROACTIVELY ABOUT SOLUTIONS.

UM, ULTIMATELY, UH, WHAT STAFF IN DISCUSSIONS WITH ALDI FOUND IS THAT AN AMENDMENT TO THE SPECIFIC PLAN FOR PARKWAY PLAZA WOULD BE POSSIBLE IN ORDER TO IMPLEMENT THE GENERAL PLAN.

SO SOME OF THOSE GENERAL PLAN GOALS AND POLICIES, UH, THEY SEEK TO MAINTAIN, UH, THE MALL AS A COMPETITIVE REGIONAL SHOPPING CENTER, AS WELL AS TO RETAIN AND INCREASE THE NUMBER OF MAJOR TENANTS.

SO YOU CAN SEE WITH ALDI AS A GROCERY STORE, UH, NOT BEING ABLE TO SELL ALCOHOL AS BEING AN IMPEDIMENT TO THEIR OVERALL BUSINESS OPERATION.

SO FROM STAFF'S ANALYSIS AND PERSPECTIVE, UH, IT MADE SENSE OF THAT SOMEONE SHOPPING AT THE, THE GROCERY STORE, UH, MAY WANT TO PUR PURCHASE A BOTTLE OF WINE OR OTHER TYPES OF ALCOHOL, AND THAT A STORE SUCH AS THE AL, SUCH AS ALDI, WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR POTENTIALLY RELAXING THOSE STANDARDS.

UH, JUST FOR THE MALL.

SO IF THIS SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT IS APPROVED, IT WOULD ALLOW LARGE GROCERY STORES, UH, RETAIL STORES OR PHARMACIES THAT ARE OVER 10,000 SQUARE FEET IN GROSS FLOOR AREA, WITH NO MORE THAN 10% OF THE FLOOR AREA DEVOTED TO ALCOHOL SALES, UH, TO SELL ALCOHOL ONLY AT THE MALL.

SO STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THE SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT AS IT WILL ALLOW THE MALL TO CONTINUE TO SERVE AS A REGIONAL ASSET, AND AS WELL AS BEING ABLE TO HELP ATTRACT, UM, OTHER MAJOR TENANTS, UH, THAT MAY WISH TO COME TO THE MALL THAT WANT TO HAVE A SMALL PORTION OF THEIR SALES, UH, RELATED TO ALCOHOL SALES.

SO IN CONCLUSION, UM, STAFF BELIEVES THAT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE SPECIFIC PLAN WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND ARE OVERALL GOALS FOR REDEVELOPING, UH, THE MALL, AND, UH, WOULD BE A BENEFIT, UH, FOR ALDI COMING IN AS THE APPLICANT.

SO THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

WELL, NO, THANKS.

BEFORE WE GET TO THE QUESTIONS, I DO WANT TO COMMEND YOU AND YOUR STAFF FOR LOOKING FOR AN, A CREATIVE WAY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM AND TO BE CUSTOMER SERVICE ORIENTED.

YOU KNOW THAT A LOT OF TIMES, UM, GOVERNMENT WORKS LIKE THE DMV, WHICH, YOU KNOW, SORRY, CAN'T HELP YOU GO, GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

AND, UH, THAT'S NOT WHAT THEY GOT HERE.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

OKAY, COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR NOAH? YES.

SO I'D LIKE TO, AS I'M KIND OF LOOKING THROUGH THIS MM-HMM.

PRESENTATION, WE GOT, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A 24,000 SQUARE FOOT MM-HMM.

FACILITY AT PARKWAY PLAZA.

AND AM I LOOKING AT HOW MANY SQUARE FEET FOR BEER AND WINE? WE KNOW THE 10% LIMIT, BUT WHAT ARE THEY PROPOSING? AS I RECALL, IT WAS ABOUT 4% OF THEIR OVERALL, UH, FLOOR PLAN.

UH, WE DO HAVE THE REPRESENTATIVE, UH, FROM ALDI, UH, HERE, THAT CAN SPEAK TO THAT PRESENTATION.

OH, I SEE.

ONLY 4% OF SH SHELF SPACE FOR BEER AND WINE.

UM, YEAH, AT SOME POINT I THINK I, I THINK THE ALDI REPS WOULD, UH, BE GREAT TO HAVE A, A SAY, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE MAYOR.

OF COURSE.

YEAH.

AT SOME POINT.

BUT THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU.

WELL, LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR NOAH, THEN WE CAN GET THE ALDI REPS UP.

ALL RIGHT, THANKS.

NO, GREAT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME UP, INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND SURE.

SORRY FOR EARLIER.

WAS, WAS ACTUALLY TRYING TO TURN IT OFF.

SO, KIND OF INDICATIVE OF MY AGE.

I THOUGHT YOU WERE TRYING TO ENTERTAIN US.

WHAT'S THAT? I THOUGHT YOU WERE TRYING TO ENTERTAIN US.

.

MY NAME IS SKIP JAMES.

I'M A DIRECTOR OF REAL ESTATE WITH ALDI, UM, MAYOR WELLS.

THANKS FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY.

UM, CITY COUNCIL STAFF AND ME, MEMBERS OF EL CAJON.

UM, AS NOAH SAID, WE'RE HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU TO, UH, APPROVE, UM, THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DECISION TO AMEND SPECIFIC PLAN 19 AND ALLOW FOR GROCERY STORES TO HAVE A BEER AND WINE LICENSE AT THE PARKWAY PLAZA.

I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE A GREAT ADDITION TO PARKWAY PLAZA, AND THERE'S BEEN SOME GREAT THINGS HAPPENING OVER THERE IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.

UH, WE AGAIN APPLAUD THE STAFF'S, UM, WORK, UH, TO FIND A, A SOLUTION FOR US AND WITH US, UM, AND MAKE AN EASIER, CONVENIENT SHOPPING TRIP FOR THE CITIZENS OF EL CAJON.

UH, WE'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK, UH, THE REST OF THE CITY, UH, STAFFS AS WELL, UH, ARE FROM OUR APPLICATIONS TO OUR, OUR CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS.

THEY'VE BEEN FAIR OR THOROUGH, UH, AND VERY, UH, UH, EXPEDITIOUS, EXPEDITIOUS WITH OUR, OUR, UH, UM, DOCUMENTS.

WE, WE APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, YOUR PLANNING COMMISSION RECEIVED OUR FULL PRESENTATION.

I DON'T THINK I NEED TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT TO HEAR TODAY WITH YOU GUYS.

UH, I CAN ANSWER, CERTAINLY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.

UM, THEY WERE VERY THOROUGH IN ASKING ABOUT OUR PROGRAM AND WHAT KIND OF MEASURES WE HAVE IN PLACE TO MAKE IT A SAFE AND CONVENIENT, UH, SHOPPING EXPERIENCE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE STORE, INCLUDING THE BEER AND WINE AREA.

UM, WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UH, CONCERNING THE STORE.

UH, WE LOOK FORWARD TO JOINING THE COMMUNITY.

UM, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO HOPEFULLY A FEBRUARY OPENING.

WONDERFUL.

THAT'S FAST.

YEP.

WE'RE ALMOST THERE.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, STEVE, YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS? I, IS THE PERMIT REQUEST JUST FOR BEER AND WINE ONLY, OR AT SOME POINT WILL WE BE ADDING OTHER THAN BEER AND WINE? NO, OUR E E EVEN OUR NATIONAL PROGRAM ONLY INCLUDES BEER AND WINE.

OKAY, THANKS.

UH, AND TO THE CITY MANAGER, IS THE SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT FOR ALL ALCOHOL OR JUST BEER AND

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WINE? IT WOULD BE ALL THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE OTHER TYPES OF STORES.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

IT WOULD BE, IT'D BE INCLUSIVE.

OKAY.

MICHELLE, I JUST WANNA THANK YOU FOR BRINGING ALDI TO EL CAJON.

WE SHOP THERE REGULARLY UP AT THE TOP OF THE HILL.

NOW WE'LL SAVE MORE GAS AND GO JUST DOWN THE STREET.

I KNOW THAT THE COMMUNITY IS EXCITED ABOUT YOU GUYS COMING IN.

UM, I'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF, I'VE HEARD MORE PROS THAN CONS GOOD THAN HAVING THE GROCERY STORE IN THERE, AND I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THEM MALL.

UM, THANK YOU.

AND, UM, I'M ALL FOR IT.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD IT, WE NEED MORE GROCERY STORES IN THIS AREA, SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE IT.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANY, UM, SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM.

NO, SIR.

NO CARDS.

OKAY, THEN I'M, I NEED A MOTION THEN TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS I MOVED SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, IT SEEMS LIKE A PRETTY EASY DECISION.

COUNSEL HAVE OPEN A DISCUSSION, OR IF SOMEBODY'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

I JUST WANT TO ADD A QUICK COMMENT.

I, I THINK THIS IS A, AS MICHELLE SAID, ON ALL OF THE, UH, SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS THAT I'VE SEEN SPEAKING FACE TO FACE WITH BOARD MEMBERS AND, AND MEMBERS OVER THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

UH, THE, THE EXCITEMENT FOR ALDI COMING TO VALLEY FLOOR IS ABSOLUTELY OVER THE TOP.

I MEAN, PEOPLE, LIKE MICHELLE SAID, ARE DRIVING TO THE TOP OF THE HILL TO GO THERE.

THEY'RE EXTREMELY EXCITED.

AND, UM, I THINK THIS IS COMPLETELY REASONABLE TO APPROVE, UM, ALCOHOL SALES ON PARKWAY PLAZA.

IF WE WANTED TO BE A PREMIER AREA, UM, FOR PEOPLE TO COME TO, THEN THAT'S JUST A SERVICE THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE.

AND SO, THANK YOU FOR ALDI FOR BRINGING THIS UP.

CUZ TO BE HONEST, THIS IS PROBABLY OVERSIGHT ON OUR SITE, ON OUR SIDE, ON THE CITY SIDE, TO NOT HAVE THIS APPROVED.

WHO KNOWS HOW MANY OTHER AWESOME FACILITIES WE COULD HAVE HAD.

BUT YOU LUCKED OUT, YOU PUSHED THROUGH.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.

YEAH, I MOVE , I DO BELIEVE THERE HAS TO BE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN A LIQUOR, A QUARTER LIQUOR STORE, AND A LARGE GROCERY STORE THAT'S PROVIDING BEER AND WINE.

STEVE, THIS IS MORE THAN JUST ALDI.

THIS IS A SPECIFIC PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE MALL.

AND, AND IF WE'RE GONNA ATTRACT TENANTS WITH THE QUALITY OF ALDI TO THE MALL, AND THE MALLS NEED SOME REVITALIZATION.

SO IF WE'RE GONNA BRING IN NATIONAL BRANDS TO REVITALIZE THEM ALL, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE MORE FLEXIBLE.

UH, SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT, UH, AMENDMENT TO THE SPECIFIC PLAN FOR THE MALL BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S MORE THAN JUST ALL THE, ALL THESE, THE PIONEER IN THE SENSE OF THIS.

AND IT TAKES A PIONEER, UH, BRAND PIONEER INTEGRITY TO, TO GET THIS THING GOING.

SO WE HOPE YOU'RE NOT FIRST AND ALONE.

WE HOPE THERE'S, THERE'S OTHER GOOD, WELL, I I THINK THERE ARE OTHER GOOD PEOPLE, UH, ON THEIR WAY AS WELL TO ENJOY.

SO WE'RE JUST, UH, GRATEFUL THAT YOU CHOSE EL CAJON SWIMMING LIFE TO MAKE A MOTION.

YEAH, I MOVED TO A DOCK IN REX RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTALLY ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT EXEMPTION AND ADOPT THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE AMENDMENT TO THE SPECIFIC PLAN.

NUMBER 19.

SECOND.

ALL RIGHT, MOVE THE SECOND TO PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

CONGRATULATIONS.

WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS STORE IN JANUARY, RIGHT? JAN? JANUARY 2ND.

OKAY.

, NO, FEB, FEBRUARY, RIGHT? YEAH.

OKAY.

WE, WE, WE'LL BE THERE IN FEBRUARY.

UH, THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING ITEM 13 IS A ZONING CODE UPDATE.

I'LL ASK OUR STAFF TO TELL US ABOUT THIS.

.

THANK YOU, NOAH.

AGAIN.

HI, O MAYOR AGAIN.

UH, NOAH ALVIE, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT.

UM, SO AS STATED, UH, THIS ITEM IS THE 2022, UH, ZONING CODE UPDATE.

UM, THIS REQUEST IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST OF TWO PLANNED UPDATES.

UH, WE DO PLAN TO HAVE A SECOND PORTION OF THE ZONING CODE UPDATE IN THE FIRST HALF OF 2023.

UM, FOR THIS ITEM, IT'S PRIMARILY RELATED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES, AS WELL AS IMPLEMENTATION OF THE GENERAL PLAN HOUSING ELEMENT.

UM, INCLUDES INCLUDING SOME RECENT, UH, HOUSING RELATED STATE LAWS.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE SOME OTHER, UH, MINOR CHANGES TO IMPROVE CLARITY AND CONSISTENCY IN THE INTERPRETATION OF THE CODE.

SO FIRST, FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, THE UPDATE DOES INCLUDE NEW DEFINITIONS FOR ALTERNATIVE FUEL VEHICLES, UM, AS WELL AS BIOMEDICAL OFFICES.

UM, THESE NEW DEFINITIONS AND UPDATES ARE REALLY INTENDED TO SET THE STAGE FOR THESE TYPES OF USES, BEING ABLE TO COME INTO THE CITY SO THAT THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH SOME TYPE OF ZONING, CONSISTENCY REVIEW OR OTHER PROCEDURAL, UH, TYPE ZONING, UM, APPROVALS THAT ARE NECESSARY.

UM, ALSO RELATED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS A NEW ZONING CODE CHAPTER, UH, FOR

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DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.

UH, WE DON'T HAVE THAT CURRENTLY IN THE MUNICIPAL CODE, AND IT WOULD ALLOW AN ALTERNATIVE PROCESS TO ACCOMMODATE MAJOR DEVELOPMENTS OR TO HAVE CERTAIN COMBINATIONS OF USES OR CERTAIN UNIQUE, UH, DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OR TIMING CRITERIA IN CONJUNCTION WITH A PROJECT.

UM, FOR THE HOUSING UPDATES, UH, THOSE ARE PRIMARILY RELATED TO, UH, THE ITEMS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT, WHICH WAS RECENTLY APPROVED BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

UH, SO PROGRAM 14 OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT SAYS THINGS THAT WE WERE GONNA DO IN THIS NEXT COMING YEAR, UH, RELATED, RELATED TO PRIMARILY STATE HOUSING LAWS.

UM, SO THE NEW REGULATIONS APPLY TO EMERGENCY SHELTERS, LOW BARRIER NAVIGATION CENTERS, UH, TRANSITIONAL AND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING DENSITY BONUS REGULATIONS, ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT REQUIREMENTS, AND THEN ALSO OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS.

UM, STAFF ALSO INCLUDED, UH, REGULATIONS FOR URBAN LOT SPLITS.

UH, THAT WAS A LAW THAT WAS PASSED BY THE STATE LAST YEAR AND SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR.

THAT LAW WAS PASSED AFTER THE ADOPTION OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT.

UH, BUT WE WENT AHEAD AND INCLUDED THAT AS WELL.

UM, I DO WANNA EMPHASIZE FOR ALL OF THE HOUSING MANDATED ITEMS IN THE HOUSING PROGRAMS, THESE ARE ALL BEING MANDATED BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

AND SO OUR IMPLEMENTATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THOSE STATE REGULATIONS.

UM, SO LASTLY ON THE MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS, UH, WE DID INCLUDE, UH, ALLOWING MUSIC LESSONS AS TUTORING AS A HOME-BASED BUSINESS.

UH, WE'VE HAD SOME, UH, HOME-BASED, UH, INDIVIDUALS, UH, OPERATING OUT OF THEIR HOME THAT WANTED TO DO THAT, AND IT SEEMED LIKE A REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION.

SO WE BROUGHT THAT FORWARD.

AND THEN WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO EXTEND THE EMERGENCY HOUSING PILOT PROGRAM THROUGH 2024, JUST TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL TIME FOR IMPLEMENTATION AND EVALUATION.

SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE 22, UH, ZONING CODE UPDATES, AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THANKS.

NO, I APPRECIATE THAT.

ANY QUESTIONS? STEVE, DID I HEAR YOU SAY THE EMERGENCY CA THE EMERGENCY CABINS AT MERIDIANS 2 20 24? YES.

UM, SO THE EMERGENCY HOUSING PILOT PROGRAM WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED TO END IN 2023.

SO JUST SINCE THEY'RE GETTING OFF THE GROUND NOW, WE WANTED TO ALLOW ADDITIONAL TIME FOR IMPLEMENTATION AND TRACKING.

GREAT IDEA.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, NOAH? THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

, ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM? WE HAVE NO CARDS, SIR.

OKAY.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

ALL RIGHT.

LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION.

I'LL MOVE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION APPROVING CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY EX EXEMPTION AND MOVE TO INTRODUCE THE FIRST READING THE NEXT ORDINANCE IN ORDER APPROVING ZONING CODE AMENDMENT NUMBER 2022 DASH ZERO TWO.

SECOND, MOVED TO SECOND TO PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

AND THE TITLE OF THE ORDINANCE IS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING SONY CODE AMENDMENT NUMBER 2022 DASH 0 0 2 FOR AN AMENDMENT TO TITLE 17 OF THE EL CAJON MUNICIPAL CODE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOUSING, AND OTHER MINOR TECHNICAL CHANGES, REVISIONS, AND EDITS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

JUST ONE SECOND GRAB.

CAN I ASK YOU, SORRY ABOUT THAT.

OKAY.

UM, WHERE ARE WE? ALL RIGHT.

[14. Selection of Deputy Mayor RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council selects a Deputy Mayor according to the El Cajon Municipal Code.]

ITEM 14 IS THE SELECTION OF DEPUTY MAYOR OSCAR CITY MANAGER TO PLEASE INTRODUCE THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

OUR MUNICIPAL CODE, UH, SAYS THAT THERE SHOULD BE A ROTATION OF THE DEPUTY MAYOR, UH, MAYOR EVERY DECEMBER AND ASSOCIATION WITH THE LAST, UM, ELECTION.

SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDER THAT TONIGHT, OR DESIGNATE ONE OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SERVE AS THE DEPUTY MAYOR.

OUR CITY CLERK LOOKED AT THE HISTORY OF THE ROTATION AND COUNCIL MEMBER GOBEL.

IT WOULD BE THE NEXT TO NATURALLY ROTATE INTO THAT POSITION.

AND STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT MR. GOBEL BE APPOINTED AS THE DEPUTY MAYOR.

SO WITH THAT, IT DOES REQUIRE THE CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL OF THAT.

UH, FIRST OFF, ANGELA, ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THAT ITEM? NO CARD, SIR.

UM, STEVE, ARE YOU WILLING? OKAY.

HE SAYS YES, HE'S READY FOR READY.

UM, I MAKE A MOTION THEN TO, UH, APPOINT STEVE GOBEL AS THE DEPUTY MAYOR FOR THIS NEXT COMING YEAR.

I SECOND THAT.

PLEASE VOTE.

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MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

THANKS, STEVE.

[15. Downtown El Cajon Business Partners' Annual Report RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council receives the Downtown El Cajon Business Partners' annual report and financial statements and provides feedback.]

ITEM 15 IS THE DOWNTOWN ELCO EL CAJON BUSINESS PARTNERS ANNUAL REPORT.

ASK CITY MANAGER TO PLEASE INTRODUCE THIS ITEM.

CERTAINLY MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.

THE, THE AGREEMENT.

SO THE CITY OF EL CAJON INSTITUTED A, UM, A P BID OR A BUSINESS IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT, UM, WHICH IS VOTED ON BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE IN THE JURISDICTION OF OUR DOWNTOWN AREA, BECAUSE STAFF DOES NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES TO, OR THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO OPERATE AND RUN THAT THE CITY HAS ENTERED INTO AN AGREEMENT OR MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT WITH THE DOWNTOWN, THE EL CAJON, THE DOWNTOWN EL CAJON BUSINESS PARTNERS.

AND PART OF THEIR MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT REQUIRES THEM TO PRESENT ANNUALLY, A FEW TI A FEW DIFFERENT ITEMS. ONE OF THE THEM IS AN ANNUAL REPORT, UM, BUDGET, UH, AUDIT, AUDITED STATEMENTS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT'S, OR THIS AFTERNOON'S AGENDA IS FOR THE P OR THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERS TO PRESENT THEIR ANNUAL PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL IS OKAY WITH THE DIRECTION THAT THEY'RE HEADING, AND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY MAY, THAT YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE AUDIT.

UM, I DON'T SEE ANYBODY FROM THE DOWNTOWN PARTNERSHIP HERE TO PRESENT THAT.

UH, SO WITH THAT STAFF, UH, COUNSEL, YOU COULD EITHER PUSH THIS TO YOUR NEXT MEETING FOR A MORE ROBUST DIS DISCUSSION, OR YOU COULD RECEIVE AND FILE WELL, BEFORE WE START THAT, LET'S HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC.

I HAVE ANOTHER, THERE'S A CARD ON THIS.

YES, SIR.

WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER.

UH, RICH REAL MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL.

FIRST OF ALL, MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY HOLIDAYS.

UM, IT'S ALWAYS A JOY TO SEE A WELL-RUN GOVERNMENT.

AND I'M 75 YEARS OLD.

I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN GOVERNMENT ALMOST ALL OF MY LIFE.

AND I GOTTA TELL YOU, YOU'RE THE BEST.

THAT BEING SAID, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE P BID THAT DIDN'T SHOW UP TODAY.

FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD RECEIVE THE REPORT TODAY.

I WOULD ASK THAT YOU POSTPONE THAT REPORT AND SEND IT BACK TO 'EM AND TELL 'EM THEY NEED PUBLIC INPUT.

THIS IS A VIOLATION OF THE BROWN ACT.

THEY'RE IN THE LAST YEAR.

THEY'VE HELD FOUR.

THERE YOU GO.

FOUR.

GOT IT.

GOTTA GET THERE.

THEY'VE HELD FOUR MEETINGS.

OKAY.

AND IN THOSE MEETINGS, I WENT TO EVERY ONE OF THEM.

THE AGENDAS ARE ALL AVAILABLE.

THERE IS NO MENTION OF THE ANNUAL REPORT, THERE'S NO MENTION OF ANY OF THE FINANCES OR ANYTHING ELSE.

ALL OF THIS WAS DEVELOPED BEHIND CLOSED DOORS IN VIOLATION OF THE BROWN ACT.

THE WHOLE IDEA BEHIND THE BROWN ACT WAS TO ALLOW US AS CITIZENS, ACCESS TO THE GOVERNMENT SO WE COULD AT LEAST INPUT, HAVE SOME INPUT.

I HAD NO INPUT ON THIS STATE, ON THIS, THIS, UH, BUSINESS STATEMENT HERE.

AS AND WITHOUT PUBLIC INPUT, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET ANY BETTER.

THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN RUNNING IT SINCE YOU, AND SINCE YOU, UH, PUT IT, PUT IT INTO OPERATION IN 2012, I'VE PROVIDED SERVICES FOR, FOR THE, UH, P BID.

I'VE WATCHED THE P BID, I'VE ATTEMPTED TO USE THEIR SERVICES.

AND I'M TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW, IT'S A CLOSED SHOP.

I WOULD SUGGEST TO YOU THAT WHAT WE OUGHT TO DO IS WE OUGHT TO SHUT, NOT SHUT THE P BID DOWN, BUT WE OUGHT TO PUT UP THE DOWNTOWN.

UH, WE OUGHT TO PUT UP THE ADMINISTRATION OF THE P BID TO PUBLIC.

TO THE PUBLIC.

IN FACT, I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

THEY, P BID SHOULD BE A MEMBER OF THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

THEY'RE NOT THE P BID SHOULD BE INVOLVED ACTIVELY WITH BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN.

THEY'RE NOT.

IN FACT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY SAY IN THEIR REPORT HERE THAT I, THAT I WAS NOT AWARE OF, THEY CLAIM THAT THEY, UH, HAVE, UH, BUSINESS RETENTION AND RECRUITMENT.

I WAS LOOKING FOR RENTAL SPACE .

AND, AND I, I NEVER GOT ANY HELP FROM THEM.

I GOT, I HAVE NO HELP FROM THEM AT ALL.

AND I THINK WE OUGHT TO RETHINK WHETHER OR NOT WE ALLOW THESE PEOPLE TO ADMINISTER THE, UH, THE, THE, THE TAX DOLLARS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO CONCEPT THAT THEY WORK FOR THE PUBLIC.

SO I WOULD ASK THAT ONE, YOU NOT DISCUSS IT.

YOU SEND 'EM A MESSAGE AND TELL 'EM, SHOW UP AND EXPLAIN TO US WHY THIS WAS DEVELOPED WITHOUT ANY PUBLIC INPUT.

OR BETTER YET, GIVE 'EM ANOTHER 60 OR 90 DAYS AND TELL 'EM TO COME BACK WHEN THEY'VE HAD PUBLIC INPUT.

THANK YOU FOR THE COURTESY OF LISTENING TO ME.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, SIR.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? NO MORE CARDS, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE THE CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, GRAHAM, UH,

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AND NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE PASSING JUDGMENT ON WHAT HAPPENS AT THE PBI, BUT I AM CURIOUS ABOUT THIS, UH, THE, THE LEGALITIES OF THIS BROWN ACT ISSUE.

UH, IS THE PBI, WHEN THEY HAVE PUBLIC MEETINGS, ARE THEY REQUIRED TO ALLOW PUBLIC COMMENT? THEY ARE, AND THEY DO.

UH, THEIR MEETINGS ARE HELD IN PUBLIC PLACES.

AND IN FACT, I BELIEVE THE LAST FEW MEETINGS, WHICH MR. DIMAGGIO HAS ATTENDED, HAVE BEEN IN CITY FACILITIES OR IN A PLACE THAT'S PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE.

HAS THERE BEEN ANY ATTEMPT TO STOP THE PUBLIC FROM SPEAKING OR WEIGHING IN ON THE ISSUES? I HAVEN'T BEEN AT ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS.

MR. DIMAGGIO SHAKING HIS HEAD TO SAY NO THANK YOU.

QUESTIONS.

I, I GUESS THE QUESTION WAS, ARE THEY SUBJECT TO THE BROWN ACT? NOT, HAVE THEY PUBLICLY NOTICED MEETINGS? YEAH, THE ANSWER IS YES ON THAT.

YOU'RE SAYING THEY ARE SUBJECT TO, THEY'RE ON TO THE BROWN ACT.

OKAY.

BECAUSE IT'S, UM, ALRIGHT, WELL I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO THE, THE COUNCIL.

UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK WE SHOULD ACCEPT THE REPORT, BUT I THINK THAT WE SHOULD, UH, SOMEBODY SHOULD GIVE THE GENTLEMAN THE ABILITY TO MAKE A COMPLAINT WITH THE FPPC IF HE FEELS LIKE HIS RIGHTS HAVE BEEN VIOLATED.

CAN WE GO FROM THERE? I'D SUE IT.

WELL, HE, HE HAS AN OPEN LAW.

HE HAS AN OPEN LAWSUIT RIGHT NOW WITH THE, WITH, UH, THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION.

SO, UM, I THINK THAT'S HIS COURSE OF ACTION.

ALRIGHT.

DOES ANYBODY FEEL DIFFERENTLY THAN ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO, TO ASK THE, THE, UH, PED TO COME BACK AT A LATER TIME OR, I, I'M, I'M COMFORTABLE ACCEPTING THE REPORT AND LETTING THIS LAWSUIT WORK ITSELF OUT IN THE COURT.

I, I'D LIKE TO SEE THEM COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL.

IT'S A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS OF DUES THEY GET FROM PEOPLE EVERY YEAR.

AND THE CITY'S ONE OF THE LARGEST CONTRIBUTORS.

AND I THINK WE REPRESENTING THE PUBLIC, THEY SHOULD BE ACCOUNTABLE TO THE PUBLIC AND THEY SHOULD COME FACE THE PUBLIC.

WELL, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

ALRIGHT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THEN? I'LL MOVE THAT WE, UH, POSTPONE THIS ITEM, UH, TO, UH, A MEETING IN JANUARY.

I DON'T HAVE A STRONG PREFERENCE WHETHER IT'S THE FIRST OR SECOND MEETING.

NO, I, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL TRY FOR THE FIRST MEETING.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

AND IF THEY'RE UNAVAILABLE, THEN WE WILL SCHEDULE FOR THE SECOND.

IS THERE SECOND? SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, I'M SURE THEY'LL COME AND ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU.

[16. City Council Action Plan (2022) - Status Report RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council receives the status report on its 2022 Action Plan and provides feedback.]

UH, ITEM 16 IS THE CITY COUNCIL ACTION PLAN REPORT.

AND I'LL ASK OUR CITY MANAGER TO INTRODUCE THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS, UM, AGENDA ITEM IS TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO THE CITY COUNCIL ON, ON THE GOALS THAT IT ESTABLISHED EARLIER THIS YEAR.

UM, AS YOU, AS YOU SAW IN THE STAFF REPORT, THERE'S A FULL MATRIX THAT EXPLAINS EVERY SINGLE GOAL AND WHERE WE'RE, WHERE STAFF IS AT WITH EACH OF THOSE GOALS.

WHETHER IT'S BEEN COMPLETED, IT'S ONGOING, IT'S IN PROCESS OR IT'S INCOMPLETE.

I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH EVERY DETAIL OF THAT, BUT I THOUGHT THERE'S SOME VALUE IN KIND OF HIGHLIGHTING SOME OF THE BIG SUCCESSES AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT ARE STILL OUTSTANDING THAT NEED TO BE WORKED ON.

UM, AND THEN KIND OF REALLY TO PRIME THE PUMP FOR THE COUNCIL AS, AS YOU THINK ABOUT RECONVENING, UM, AS A, AS A BODY TO DISCUSS GOALS FOR 2023.

WE'RE HOPING TO DO THAT IN JANUARY.

SO AS YOU RECALL, THERE ARE REALLY SIX PRIORITIES THAT THE COUNCIL ESTABLISHED, REVITALIZING THE DOWNTOWN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, CITY BEAUTIFICATION HOME DEALING WITH HOMELESSNESS OR ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS, PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND THEN THERE'S ALWAYS SOME MISCELLANEOUS GOALS.

SO WITH THAT REALLY FAST, I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE, BUT THESE ARE SOME OF THE REALLY BIG ONES.

UH, IT'S, IT'S A SHAME MR. RYLE DIDN'T STICK AROUND.

BUT, UH, MR. DIMAGGIO HAS BEEN WORKING ON AN ANALYSIS OF THE P BID THROUGH A THIRD PARTY VENDOR.

SO WE'RE CURRENTLY TRYING TO PROCURE THE SERVICES OF SOMEBODY TO ANALYZE I IS THE P BID EFFECTIVE? IS THERE A BETTER WAY TO ASSESS? IS THERE, UM, MORE EFFICIENT WAY TO ATTRACT BUSINESSES? AND SO THAT'S BEING WORKED ON RIGHT NOW.

UH, REALLY EXCITED THAT THE, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN IS COMPLETE AND NOW IT'S A MATTER OF FIGURING OUT WAYS TO IMPLEMENT.

AND THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED.

WE, WE'LL BE BRINGING SOME IDEAS OF HOW TO IMPLEMENT THAT AS PART OF YOUR GOAL SETTING SESSION.

UH, WE ARE IN, UH, WORKING DIRECTLY WITH STUDENTS AT SAN DIEGO STATE UNIVERSITY ADDRESSING PARKWAY PLAZA.

THEY'RE REDOING A BIG RE-ENVISIONING OF THAT.

THEY'RE LOOKING AT EXAMPLES OF OTHER MALLS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH SOME RESURGENCE LOOKING AT OUR CURRENT LAND SPACE THERE, UH, ABILITY TO EXPAND THE MALL, ABILITY TO ADD, ADD ADDITIONAL CONCEPTS OR USES AT THE MALL THAT WOULD COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER.

I GUESS SAM CAN GO THROUGH ALL THESE.

UH, CUZ THEY'RE ALL EXCITING STUFF.

UH, AFTER

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WORKING FOR YEARS WITH MTS AND, AND THANKS MR. GOBEL TO HELP PUSHING THIS FORWARD.

WE WERE ABLE TO GET THEM, UH, INTERESTED IN THE PARKING LOT IN EL CAJON.

UH, THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED A DEVELOPMENT COMPANY, CHELSEA, UH, HOW AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPER TO BUILD HOUSING THERE.

SO NOW THEY'RE WORKING OUT THE NEGOTIATIONS OF WHAT THAT DEAL LOOKS LIKE.

BUT WE WERE INCLUDED AS PART OF THAT PROCESS AND WE'RE, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE A GREAT CATALYST PROJECT.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE STARTED A PILOT PROGRAM OF UTILITY WRAPS.

WRAPS, AND I'LL SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF THAT.

AND WE ALSO HAVE STARTED, UM, INSTALLING HEAVY GAUGE THAT BLACK RUBBER FENCING AROUND OUR CHANNELS, WHICH ARE REALLY DIFFICULT TO CUT THROUGH TO, TO AVOID SOME OF THE INTRUSIONS INTO THOSE AREAS.

SO, UM, HERE'S THE WRAP.

I SENT THE COUNCIL AN IMAGE OF THIS IN THE ONE YEAR, THE LIBRARY RECENTLY.

AND WE'RE HOPING TO DO MORE OF THESE AS PART OF THIS PILOT PROGRAM.

AND THIS IS THE TYPE OF FENCING THAT WE, THAT IS STARTING TO GO UP THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN CERTAIN AREAS.

UM, WE ALSO, AS THE COUNCIL REMEMBERS, YOU, YOU APPROVED THE LAUNCHING OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUP PROGRAM, SO THAT'S PRETTY EXCITING.

UM, WE INSTALLED THE HOMELESS WIDGET ON OUR CITY APP.

IN FACT, I THINK THAT WAS DONE WITHIN MS. DIAZ GOT IT DONE WITHIN I THINK TWO WEEKS OF THE COUNCIL APPROVING THE, THE PLAN.

WE DID RE REDESIGN WITH THE COUNCIL'S GUIDANCE, THE NO PANHANDLING SIGNS, AND THOSE HAVE GONE UP.

WE GOT THE M MOU, THE HOMELESS MOU WITH OTHER NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS ACCOMPLISHED.

WE YET HAVE A PROJECT THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE, BUT THE MOU IS IN PLACE.

UM, WE, UH, DEVELOPED A SPEEDING CAM, AN ANTIS SPEEDING CAMPAIGN THAT WAS DERIVED DIRECTLY FROM HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.

AND SO WE'RE WORKING ON THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT NOW.

AND THEN WE'VE OUT WE'VE ALMOST COMPLETED OUR OUTREACH TO DIFFERENT VETERANS GROUPS FOR FUTURE VETERANS MEMORIAL.

SO SOME OF THE INCOMPLETED PROJECTS INCLUDE, UH, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR SEVERAL YEARS, WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO LOOK AT SOME OF EXCESS LAND THAT WE HAVE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA TO DEVELOP IT.

IT'S PRETTY APPARENT THAT THE COUNTY IS NOT GONNA HELP US DRIVE THAT.

SO, UH, THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER AND I ARE, ARE WORKING TOGETHER, TOGETHER NOW TO JUST MARKET OUR OWN PROPERTIES.

WE WILL PROBABLY THROW THE COUNTY'S PROPERTIES IN AS PART OF THE PACKAGE, AND IF, IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO CONSIDER, THEN THEY'LL HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

UH, WE, WE HAVE YET TO MEET WITH THE, THE FIVE DIFFERENT OWNERS OF PARKWAY PLAZA.

GETTING THEM TOGETHER IN ONE ROOM HAS POSED A CHALLENGE.

UH, ONE OF THE GOALS THAT WE HAD LAST YEAR WAS TO DEVELOP A, UH, COMPREHENSIVE MURAL PROGRAM FOR THE UNDERPASSES THAT HAS YET TO BE ACCOMPLISHED.

UH, WE HAVE NOT HAD TO THE ABILITY TO APPLY THE MOU FOR HOMELESS SHELTERS.

WE ALMOST WERE THERE, BUT WE DID NOT COME TO FRUITION.

WE HAVE NOT DEVELOPED A HOMELESS STRATEGIC PLAN IN THE EAST COUNTY SUB-REGION.

UH, WE ARE CURRENTLY IMPLEMENTING THE PILOT STREET CAMERA AND LICENSE PLATE LEADER PROGRAM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S STILL A LITTLE WAYS OFF FROM HAPPENING.

UH, WE PUT THE SECURING A, A LOCAL LOBBYIST ON HOLD AS WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH SOME OF THE OTHER ISSUES.

AND THEN, UM, WE'VE YET TO IDENTIFY THE EXACT LOCATION AND THE SCOPE OF THE VETERANS MEMORIAL.

WE'RE HOPING TO BRING THAT TO THE CITY COUNCIL SOMETIME IN JANUARY.

ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE IS WE, WE HAD SOME UNEXPECTED CRISES HAPPEN THIS LAST, THIS LAST YEAR.

UH, WE'VE ALSO COME TO THE REALIZATION THAT SPENDING ARPA MONEY, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE HEARD, YOU'VE HEARD THE SAYING THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH.

ARPA MONEY IS NO FREE LUNCH.

THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES IN THAT, UH, IT'S FEDERAL MONEY.

SO EVERYTHING THAT WE DO FROM A PROCUREMENT PERSPECTIVE IS ABOUT DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF TIME.

SO IT HAS BEEN, UH, CHALLENGING FOR STAFF.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'LL BE RECOMMENDING AS PART OF NEXT YEAR'S GOALS, I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE IN THE GOALS, IS TO ACTUALLY SPEND THAT ARPA MONEY.

AND THAT NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T SPEND IT, WE WILL BE TURNING MONEY BACK.

AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO BE COGNIZANT OF THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IT WILL TAKE TO, TO GET THOSE PROGRAMS PROCURED IN THOSE, UM, THINGS OUT THE DOOR.

SO WITH THAT, STAFF IS HOPING THAT WE CAN CONDUCT THE, THE CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP IN JANUARY.

THEN BRING THE, THE FINDINGS OF THAT WORKSHOP TO THE COUNCIL IN A DISCUSSION IN FEBRUARY.

AND THEN IDEALLY THE COUNCIL WOULD ADOPT ITS NEXT, UM, COUNCIL ACTION PLAN IN EITHER LATE FEBRUARY OR EARLY MARCH.

SO, WITH THAT, STAFF'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR RECEIVE ANY FEEDBACK THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE STAFF.

THANKS.

I APPRECIATE A NICE REPORT.

UM, QUESTIONS? THERE'S SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM.

NO SPEAKER CARDS, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THERE'S A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT.

I THINK THE STAFF'S DOING A GOOD JOB OF FOLLOWING

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UP ON THE THINGS WE'VE ASKED 'EM TO FOLLOW UP ON AND READY TO TAKE A MOTION.

MR. MAYOR, IN THIS CASE, I THINK IT'S JUST, WE'LL TAKE ANY FEEDBACK THAT YOU HAVE THERE.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY MOTION, UNLESS THERE'S, WE DON'T NEED, WE DON'T NEED TO RECEIVE THE REPORT UNLESS THERE'S SOME SPECIFIC DIRECTION THAT YOU WANT TO GIVE US.

I THINK JUST STAY OF THE COURSE WILL DO.

ALL RIGHT.

THERE, THERE ARE NO COMMISSIONER REPORTS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

ITEM

[17. Council Activity Report]

17 IS MY ACTIVITY REPORT, WHICH IS AS REPORTED.

ITEM

[18. City Council Assignments RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council approves City Council assignments (as identified in the report) to various boards and commissions representing El Cajon.]

18 IS THE RECOMMENDATION FOR CITY COUNCIL ASSIGNMENTS.

AND, UM, GRAHAM, DO YOU HAVE THAT LIST? I DO.

IT'S, IT'S IN THE AGENDA.

I DON'T HAVE IT AS A POWERPOINT, BUT, UM, THE, BASED ON THE MAYOR'S RECOMMENDATIONS, THOSE ASSIGNMENTS WILL STAY THE SAME FROM AS THEY WERE LAST YEAR, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE CITY COUNCIL.

UM, IS EVERYBODY HAPPY WITH THOSE TIMES? OKAY.

ARE THERE ANY, UH, SPEAKER CARDS IN THIS ITEM? NO, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

I MAKE A MOTION THEN THAT WE ACCEPT THE, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS.

PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

[14. ACTIVITIES REPORTS/COMMENTS OF COUNCILMEMBERS:]

WE ARE NOW AT ACTIVITIES REPORTS FOR OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER GOBEL AS REPORTED, COUNCIL MEMBER ORTIZ, AS REPORTED COUNCIL MEMBER METRO AS REPORTED.

ITEM 23 IS A JOINT COUNCIL MEMBER REPORT FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS GOBEL AND ORTIZ.

UH, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ONE.

PLEASE, UH, TELL US ABOUT YOUR FINDINGS, MR. GOBEL.

MR. ORTIZ, I HAVE YOUR POWERPOINT LOADED, SO IF STAFF CAN GIVE ACCESS TO THE, THE PROJECTOR.

THANK YOU.

WHILE

[19. COUNCILMEMBER STEVE GOBLE MTS (Metropolitan Transit System Board); East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority Board; Chamber of Commerce – Government Affairs Committee; SANDAG – Board of Directors – Alternate; SANDAG Public Safety Committee – Alternate.]

WE'RE LOADING THAT, I'M GONNA GO BACK TO MY COMMENTS.

UH, MY REPORT, I NOTICE PROP 31 PASSED IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA THAT AFFECTS A LOT OF RETAILERS IN EL CAJON, AND THAT IS THE, UH, FLAVORED TOBACCO PROPOSITION PASSED BY 63% OF CALIFORNIANS.

UH, THAT BAN WILL TAKE EFFECT IN NINE DAYS, EIGHT DAYS IN THE CITY OF EL CAJON, AND THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

IT HAS EXCEPTIONS FOR HOOKAH TOBACCO, LOOSE LEAF TOBACCO, AND PREMIUM CIGARS, BUT IT WILL ELIMINATE THE SALE OF, UH, EVERYTHING FROM COTTON CANDY VAPING TO MENTHOL CIGARETTES.

YEAH, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT, UH, I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO HEAR WHAT THE, UH, ENFORCEMENT PLAN IS ON THAT.

YEAH, WE, WE CAN, WE CAN BRING THAT, WE'LL, WE'LL PROVIDE A MEMO TO THE COUNCIL ON THAT.

I, I CAN.

ALL RIGHT.

THANKS.

TELL YOU THAT, BUT JUST REALLY QUICKLY, I'VE NOTICED ACTUALLY SOME OF THE FLAVORED TOBACCO COMING OFF SHELVES ALREADY IN, IN PREPARATION FOR THAT.

OKAY.

ONTO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE, UPDATED SAFE MOTELS.

UH, I THINK I'LL YIELD TO COUNCILMAN ORTIZ FOR SOME OPENING COMMENTS ON HEALTH AND SAFETY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

UH, COUNCILMAN GOBEL.

SO, AFTER MEETING WITH VARIOUS OPERATORS, OWNERS OF HOTEL MOTEL, MEETING WITH STAFF, LOOKING AT DATA, THIS REALLY, UM, A A LOT OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE GONNA BE COMING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE HEALTH AND SAFETY, NOT ONLY OF THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE, UM, STAYING AT THESE HOTELS AND MOTELS, THE EMPLOYEES OF THESE HOTELS AND MOTELS, THE BUSINESSES SURROUNDING THEM, AND THE RESIDENTS.

UM, I, I THINK THAT THIS HAS, SOME OF THESE HOTELS HAVE BEEN PROBLEMS FOR A LONG TIME, AND I THINK REVITALIZING SOME OF OUR, UM, COMPLIANCE STANDARDS AND MAYBE INTRODUCING SOME NEW COMPLIANCE STANDARDS TO ENSURE THAT, UM, THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS AND THE VISITORS OF OUR CITY, UM, ARE SECURE.

UM, MR. GOBEL IS GONNA BE GOING INTO A LOT OF DATA THAT WE'VE DUG UP.

HE'S DONE A LOT OF GREAT WORK, BUT, UM, THE RECOMMENDATIONS I THINK THAT WE'VE COME TO ARE GONNA NOT ONLY SERVE, UM, OUR RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO CUT DOWN ON CALLS FOR SERVICE, UM, LOOSENING UP AND, AND RELEASING SOME OF OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND POLICE, UM, TO, TO RESPOND QUICKER.

SO WITH THAT, UM, PLEASE, MR. GOBEL.

OKAY.

UH, THE CURRENT SITUATION.

WE HAVE 16 MOTELS AND TWO HOTELS.

THE TWO HOTELS BEING THE COURTYARD AND THE HAMPTON INN.

A TOTAL OF JUST UNDER A THOUSAND ROOMS. THAT'S ACTUALLY A PRETTY LARGE NUMBER FOR THE CITY.

WE HAVE 33,500 TOTAL DWELLING UNITS.

SO ROUGHLY 3% OF ALL DWELLING UNITS ARE MOTEL ROOMS IN THE CITY OF CAIF.

UH, THE CITY OF EL CAJON, I'M NOT SURE OF ANY OTHER CITY THAT HAS 3% OF THEIR DWELLING UNITS AS MOTEL ROOMS. THIS DOES NOT COUNT THE, UH, THE, UH, SRO SINGLE ROOM OCCUPANCY LOCATIONS THAT USED TO BE FORMER MOTELS AND FORMER PROBLEMS, WHICH AREN'T AS BIG ANYMORE.

OUR SMALLEST MOTEL IS 10 ROOMS. OUR LARGEST IS 183 ROOMS. THAT'S THE MOTEL SIX.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UH, THEY CURRENTLY OPERATE UNDER THE DEEMED APPROVED ORDINANCE WE ESTABLISHED IN 2019, AND THEY HAVE PERFORMANCE

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STANDARDS, UH, THAT HAVE TO BE MET TO MAINTAIN THAT DEEMED APPROVED STATUS.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE LIST THERE.

UH, WHAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON TODAY REALLY IS PERHAPS THE NUISANCE ACTIVITY.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

UH, JUST A GENERAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MOTELS AND HOTELS IN A MOTEL, GUESTS TYPICALLY DON'T ENTER THEIR ROOM VIA A LOBBY.

THEY CAN DRIVE IT RIGHT UP TO THE ROOM AND ENTER THE ROOM.

UH, AND THEY HAVE LESS STAFF THAN A HOTEL.

A HOTEL MAY HAVE FRONT DESK HOUSEKEEPING, UH, A BAR PERSON, UH, A A GIFT SHOP PERSON, SOMETHING A MOTELS TYPICALLY DON'T.

UH, THERE'S FEWER LEVELS AND FLOORS OF A MOTEL AND FEWER ROOMS TYPICALLY THAN A HOTEL.

SO THE MOTELS REALLY WERE A BIG THING IN THE FORTIES AND FIFTIES, UH, AS A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE, UH, ON THE INTERSTATE FOR PEOPLE VERSUS A HOTEL IN A MAJOR CITY.

SO WE HAVE 18, WHICH IS, I THINK, A LOT FOR OUR SQUARE MILEAGE OF A CITY.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

BY THE WAY, THERE'S ALSO SOME GOOD BACKGROUND INFORMATION AVAILABLE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE FROM A JANUARY, 2005 PUBLICATION CALLED DISORDER AT BUDGET MOTELS.

UH, WHILE THE PRINCIPLES AND THE INFORMATION IS FROM 2005, THEY'RE JUST AS RELEVANT TODAY.

UH, THIS PARTICULAR BACKGROUND STUDY WILL TALK ABOUT THE CORRELATION BETWEEN ROOM RATES AND CALLS FOR SERVICE.

IN OTHER WORDS, THE LOWER THE ROOM RATE, THE HIGHER IS THE CALL FOR SERVICE.

UH, IT WILL TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT OF LOCALS VERSUS TRAVELERS THAT SOME OF THE BUDGET MOTELS HAVE AS MUCH AS 80% OF LOCALS LIVING IN THEM, WHEREAS HOTELS HAVE 80% OF TRAVELERS.

THEY WILL TALK ABOUT A TIPPING POINT OF MIX, THAT IF AT SOME POINT YOU GET TOO MANY LOW BUDGET CUSTOMERS, YOU WILL PERMANENTLY LOSE YOUR HIGH-END TRAVELERS BECAUSE OF THE, UH, CALLS FOR SERVICE AND THE THINGS THAT ATTRACTS.

AND SOME LOCALS DO FIND THAT THE MOTELS ARE MORE ATTRACTIVE THAN APARTMENTS BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME UP WITH YOUR FIRST MONTH, LAST MONTH, AND THE SECURITY DEPOSIT YOU CAN JUST PAY DAY TO DAY OR WEEK TO WEEK, AND YOU GET FREE FURNISHINGS AND UTILITIES AS PART OF YOUR MOTEL ROOM.

SO IT'S VERY ATTRACTIVE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE EITHER TRANSIENT, UH, GOING FROM TOWN ON A SHORT TERM EMPLOYMENT ASSIGNMENT OR, OR THOSE WHO JUST CAN'T AFFORD THE THINGS THAT OUR APARTMENTS REQUIRE.

AND ALSO, THIS PUBLICATION DOES TALK ABOUT A CALLS FOR SERVICE STANDARD, WHICH IS INTERESTING.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO HERE IN EL CAJON, LET'S TALK ABOUT CALLS FOR SERVICE, POLICE AND FIRE COMBINED.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

THIS IS THE 18 MOTELS.

LIST THEM ON THE BOTTOM FROM ONE TO 18.

HAVE REMOVED THE NAME SO THAT WE'RE NOT CALLING OUT ANYBODY IN PARTICULAR.

THE BLUE LINES ARE POLICE, THE RED LINES ARE FIRE.

THE GREEN LINE IS A STANDARD OF ONE CALL PER SERVICE PER ROOM PER YEAR, WHICH IS, UH, A COMMON STANDARD AS REFERENCED IN THAT DOJ PUBLICATION.

THIS IS FOR THE 12 MONTHS ENDING, UH, OCTOBER, 2022.

UH, THE FIRE IS OCTOBER, AND THE POLICE WERE IN JUNE, STILL 12 MONTHS.

UH, THERE IS SOME DUPLICATION HERE AS IF THE POLICE SHOWED UP TO ADDRESS SOMETHING AND THEN THEY HAD TO DISPATCH FIRE OR VICE VERSA.

YOU MAY HAVE SOME, UH, SMALL AMOUNT OF DUPLICATION HERE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT FOUR MOTELS AND HOTELS, UH, ARE UNDER THAT 1.0.

UH, TWO OF THOSE ARE A HAMPTON INN AND COURTYARD.

THE OTHER TWO, INTERESTINGLY, ARE EXISTING BUDGET MOTELS.

THEY KNOW HOW TO OPERATE WITH LESS THAN ONE CALLS FOR SERVICE PER ROOM PER YEAR.

IT'S POSSIBLE TO DO, UH, FIVE OF THEM ARE BETWEEN 1.0 TO 1.2.

THAT MEANS, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU'RE NOT FAR AWAY FROM THAT STANDARD.

MAYBE WE JUST NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.

MAYBE WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND SAY, IS IT A TRAINING ISSUE FOR YOU? DO YOU HAVE A NEW MANAGER WHO ALL OF A SUDDEN IS NOT REALIZING THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN CALLING, UH, A SECURITY COMPANY INSTEAD OF THE POLICE? UH, SO WE THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY THERE, BUT THERE ARE NINE MOTELS BETWEEN 1.2 TO 2.5, AND CERTAINLY THAT'S A CONCERN.

YOU CAN SEE MOST OF THOSE, UH, HIRED NUMBERS ARE, ARE CALLS FOR SERVICE FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

SO COMBINED, UH, THAT'S A LOT OF CALLS IN TOTAL LAST YEAR AS 1400 CALLS FOR SERVICE.

THAT'S DOWN FROM ROUGHLY 1900 THE YEAR BEFORE, WHICH WAS THE PANDEMIC WHEN THINGS WERE SHUT DOWN AND PEOPLE WERE BEING PUT INTO MOTELS.

SO NOW THAT THINGS ARE OPENED UP, UH, THAT EXPLAINS THE DROP FROM 1900 TO 1400, BUT 1400 FOR 18 MOTELS IS STILL QUITE A BIT.

I BET THAT'S PROBABLY AN AVERAGE OF AROUND 70 CALLS OR SO, UH, PER PROPERTY, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS, UH, IN OUR DEEMED APPROVED LODGING ORDINANCE.

NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.

SO, I GUESS WHAT, UH, WE'RE RECOMMENDING IS THAT STAFF GO BACK, LOOK AT THE DEEMED APPROVED LODGING ORDINANCE.

SET A CALLS FOR SERVICE PER ROOM PER YEAR STANDARD.

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CERTAINLY THE DOJ PUBLICATION AND AN ARIZONA STATE PUBLICATION RECOMMEND ONE, 1.0 CALLS FOR SERVICE PER ROOM PER YEAR.

THAT'S COMBINED POLICE AND FIRE.

SECOND RECOMMENDATION, SET A COMMUNICATION PLAN TO INITIATE AND COLLABORATE, ESPECIALLY COLLABORATE WITH THOSE NOT MEETING THE STANDARD PERHAPS.

AS I MENTIONED, IT'S JUST A TRAINING ISSUE AT THE MOTEL LEVEL ON WHAT TRULY IS A EMERGENCY REQUIRING CALLS FOR SERVICE FOR POLICE OR FIRE.

THIRD, UH, IF WE'RE GOING TO, UH, IMPLEMENT GREATER ENFORCEMENT OF THIS, I THINK WE NEED TO PROVIDE SOLUTIONS AS WELL.

WE NEED TO PROVIDE I IDEAS TO CURE ANY DEFICIENCIES, INCLUDING BEST PRACTICES.

AND FINALLY, NUMBER FOUR, ESTABLISH A COMPLIANCE PLAN FOR BETTER HEALTH AND SAFETY OF ALL MOTEL GUESTS IN NEARBY NEIGHBORHOODS.

FOR EXAMPLE, A CRISIS HOUSE IN SANTEE DOES USE THE VOUCHER PROGRAM TO SEND VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TO SOME OF OUR MOTELS FOR IMMEDIATE SAFETY FOR THE EVENING.

THOSE PEOPLE DESERVE A, A HEALTHY, SAFE PLACE TO BE WHILE THEY'RE ESCAPING A A DANGEROUS SITUATION.

SO THIS IS A COMPLIANCE PLAN TO ADDRESS THE SAFETY OF ALL MOTEL GUESTS AND THE NEARBY NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THE CURRENT DEEMED APPROVED PLAN IN ORDINANCE 17.12 OR 17.21 2.070 IS VERY GENERAL WHEN IT TALKS ABOUT WHAT'S A PUBLIC NUISANCE.

AND WE'RE ASKING CITY STAFF TO COME BACK WITH SPECIFICS SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN TO HAVE A BETTER OPERATION OF MOTELS IN EL CAJON AND ENFORCEMENT FOR HEALTH AND SAFETY.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL PASS IT TO COUNCIL ORTIZ FOR ANY OTHER COMMENTS.

JUST WANT TO ADD SOME CLARIFICATION FOR OUR, OUR, OUR REASONING TO BASE EVERYTHING OFF OF CALLS FOR SERVICE.

I THINK WE, WE OWE IT TO THE COUNCIL INSTEAD OF USING CRIME AS ONE.

BECAUSE CRIME DOESN'T REPORTED CRIMES OR CONVICTING CRIMES DOESN'T ENCAPSULATE ALL OF THE NUISANCE IN ALL OF THE INCIDENCES THAT OCCUR ON THESE PROPERTIES.

AND SO REALLY, A CALL FOR SERVICE DOESN'T REALLY REPORT ALL OF THE INCIDENCES THAT OCCUR BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE DON'T CALL DURING THESE INCIDENCES.

SO THE CALLS FOR SERVICE, I THINK, IS UNDER REPORTING THE ACTUAL INCIDENCES THAT ARE OCCURRING ON THESE PROPERTIES.

UM, SO WE FELT THAT IT'S THAT A CALL FOR SERVICE WOULD BE A GOOD STANDARD TO, UM, TO ENCAPSULATE THE ACTUAL INCIDENCES THAT ARE OCCURRING BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S UNDERREPORTED, UM, FOR INCIDENCES.

UM, AND IT'S VERY UNDERREPORTING WITH REGARD TO CRIME.

SO I FELT LIKE A JU WE NEEDED TO ADD SOME CONTEXT WITH REGARD TO JUSTIFICATION FOR USING THAT CALLED FOR SERVICE STANDARD.

ALSO, WITH CALLS FOR SERVICE, IF WE'RE GOING TO HOLD THEM TO A STANDARD TO NOT EXCEED A NATURAL QUESTION IS ARE YOU GOING TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM CALLING THE POLICE OR FIRE? AND MM-HMM.

, THE, THE PARTICULAR, UH, STUDIES SO FAR SAY, NO, THAT DID NOT HAPPEN.

AND IN FACT, IF FOUR MOTELS AND HOTELS IN OUR CITY KNOW HOW TO DO IT, IT'S POSSIBLE TO DO, WE'RE NOT ASKING THEM TO REACH A STANDARD THAT NO ONE HAS REACHED.

YET PEOPLE HAVE REACHED THAT STANDARD.

SO CLEARLY THIS IS AN OPERATIONAL ISSUE, NOT A, UH, A, UH, CALLS FOR SERVICE, UH, UH, DISCOURAGEMENT.

I WANT TO ADD TO THAT.

IT'S NOT JUST FOUR.

IT'S THE ONES THAT ARE FLOATING AROUND THE ONE, A LITTLE OVER ONE CALL PER SERVICE.

SO THERE ARE MOTELS THAT ARE OPERATING VERY WELL, AND IT'S NOT, IT'S CAPE, IT'S ABSOLUTELY POSSIBLE, UH, FOR THESE SMALLER MOTELS TO DO THAT.

YOU DON'T NEED THE RESOURCES OF A, OF A HILTON OR A MARRIOTT TO ACCOMPLISH THAT.

IT'S EVIDENT HERE, UM, IN OUR CITY, UM, THAT THESE MOTELS ARE ABLE TO OPERATE IN THAT FASHION.

AND WHEN IT COMES TO A PUBLIC NUISANCE, WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS, UH, BE MORE MINDFUL OF WHO YOUR RENTER ROOM TO, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT IS DRIVING CALLS FOR SERVICE.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO PAID FOR THE ROOM.

IT'S BE MINDFUL OF WHO YOU'RE RENTING AND WHAT OUTCOMES MIGHT COME FROM RENTING TO HIGH RISK PEOPLE.

REMEMBER AT MOTELS, THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE FRONT LOBBY TO GET TO THEIR ROOM.

AND WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT, UH, THE IMPACT OF THAT LACK OF VISIBILITY IN SOME OF THE OPERATIONS AND IMPACT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

HIRING CREDIT CARDS IS AT THE END OF YOUR REPORT.

UM, I, I HAVE LIKE A MILLION QUESTIONS, BUT, UM, IS THERE ANY DATA THAT TALKS ABOUT, UH, LET, LET'S TALK ABOUT MEDICAL ISSUES BECAUSE I SAW A LOT OF THAT WAS FIRE, WHICH MEANS PROBABLY 99%

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MEDICAL, RIGHT? YEAH.

LET'S GO BACK TO THE SLIDE OF CALLS FOR SERVICE.

SO, UM, OF THOSE FIRE DEPARTMENT INVOLVEMENTS, UM, IS THERE ANY DATA AS TO WHAT KIND OF MEDICAL PROBLEMS WE'RE SEEING? ARE, ARE, ARE WE SEEING, YOU KNOW, MEDICAL EMERGENCIES? ARE WE SEEING DRUG OVERDOSES OR, OR IS THAT UNKNOWN? UH, WE DON'T HAVE IT FOR THIS REPORT, BUT I'M SURE OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT COULD, UH, CATEGORIZE SOME OF THESE CALLS BECAUSE THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE THAT ARE, UH, UNABLE TO ACCESS THE APARTMENT LIFE AND THEY'RE HAVING TO STAY IN HOTELS, UM, IT, IT, IT MAY BE THAT THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE MORE PRONE TO MORE MEDICAL PROBLEMS IN, IN GENERAL BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT TAKING CARE OF THEIR HEALTH PROPERLY.

AND SO IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW, BUT IF IT'S, IF IT'S LIKE 80% PEOPLE OR 85% PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVING SOME KIND OF PROBLEM WITH DRUG OVERDOSES OR OR REACTION TO DRUGS, UM, THAT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW AS WELL.

IT'D BE NICE TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE HAVING PSYCHOTIC EPISODES, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AND CUZ THOSE THINGS ARE CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT THE HOTEL OPERATORS COULD HAVE SOME INPUT IN AS TO WHETHER OR NOT IF MO, IF MOST PEOPLE ARE HAVING HEART ATTACKS OR STROKES AND THOSE KIND, UH, CERTAINLY CAN'T HOLD THE, THE, UH, HOTEL OWNER RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.

AND THEN I, I'D ASK THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT POLICE AND FIRE.

DO WE HAVE ANY, ANY DATA AS TO WHAT KIND OF, UM, DISTURBANCES THAT POLICE ARE GOING OUT? WE DO.

AND, AND THERE WERE SOME, UH, I THINK A FEW MOTELS THAT WE ACTUALLY HAD A, A SPREADSHEET OF, UH, OF THE, THE DESCRIPTION OF THE TYPE OF CALL, WHAT WAS THE MOST PREVALENT, I I, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, IT WAS DISTURBANCE OF SOME KIND FIGHTS ARGUMENTS.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, WELL THAT'S, UH, THAT'S, UH, REALLY INTERESTING.

MORE QUESTIONS.

WELL, WELL, I, I TELL YOU WHAT, IT'S A REALLY, UH, COMPREHENSIVE REPORT.

I MEAN, YOU CAN DIG INTO THIS ALL DAY LONG.

SO GO BACK TO YOUR CONCLUSIONS.

A AGAIN, THAT WHAT DO YOU SEE AS A POSSIBLE SOLUTION? WELL, YOU BRING UP A GOOD POINT BECAUSE THERE ARE THOSE WHO ARE LOW INCOME WHO USE THIS AS THEIR HOUSING BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD APARTMENTS.

ARE THEY AT RISK BECAUSE THEY, UH, HAVE HEALTH CONDITIONS? ONE OF THE FRUSTRATIONS IS, UH, OF, OF AN EXISTING MOTEL OWNER IS, UH, THEY'RE GETTING PEOPLE WITH A PROMISE THAT THOSE GUESTS WILL GET WRAPAROUND SERVICES AND THEY SAY THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE WRAPAROUND SERVICES, THE, THE SERVICE PROVIDER'S NOT SHOWING UP.

SO CERTAINLY, UH, AS PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION, WE COULD, UH, INCLUDE SOME TYPE OF, UH, UH, COORDINATION WITH THE COUNTY FOR THOSE IN NEED OR SOMETHING, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE, THE MEDICAL CALL SUMMARY TELLS US.

WELL, IF NOTHING ELSE, IF WE DID A BETTER JOB OF, OF KEEPING TRACK OF THE KIND OF DISTURBANCES HAPPENED AND THEN IDENTIFYING THE NUMBER OF TIMES WHERE A COUNTY SERVICE PROVIDER COULD HAVE MADE THAT SITUATION BETTER, BUT WASN'T AVAILABLE OR HADN'T BEEN THERE, UM, THEN WE COULD HOLD THE COUNTY ACCOUNTABLE FOR SPENDING THE MONEY.

LIKE THEY SAY, THEY'RE GONNA SPEND THE MONEY.

I, I, I THINK IF, IF THE COUNCIL GOES ALONG WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE, A AD HOC COMMITTEE, I THINK IT WILL PUT THE ONUS ON THE PROPERTY OWNERS, NOT ON THE CITY OF EL CAJON TO ENSURE THAT THEIR PROPERTY'S OPERATING IN A GOOD WAY.

AND WHETHER IT'S A VOUCHER PROGRAM, IF YOU ARE A PROPERTY OWNER AND YOU'RE ALLOWING HOMELESS VOUCHERS, NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU HAVE AN INCENTIVE TO ENSURE THAT EQUIS OR WHOEVER IS DOING THE WRAPAROUND SERVICE NOW, NOW YOU ARE THE ONES THAT WILL HELP BE DRIVING THAT QUALITY OF SERVICE THAT I DON'T THINK EXISTS.

NOW, YOU'LL BE MORE MOTIVATED NOT TO RENT YOUR ROOM TO HIGH SCHOOL KIDS TO HAVE PARTIES.

YOU'LL BE MORE MOTIVATED TO NOT RENT YOUR ROOMS TO PRO FOR PROSTITUTION PURPOSES.

RIGHT.

SO I THINK THIS PROGRAM, IF IT'S SET UP RIGHT, WILL, WILL GIVE THEM MORE RESPONSIBILITY TO BE SELECTIVE OF WHO THEY ARE RENTING TO WITHOUT BEING DISCRIMINATORY.

DO YOU THINK THAT IT WOULD, THERE'D BE SOME VALUE THOUGH, IN HAVING ONGOING DIALOGUES WITH THESE FOLKS SO THAT WHEN THEY HAD FRUSTRATIONS, LIKE SAY FOR EXAMPLE, THAT WE WANT THE COUNTY TO COME OUT AND HELP US, BUT THEY WON'T COME, THEY WON'T SEND ANYBODY.

THEY, THEY SAY THEY WILL, BUT THEY DON'T, UH, THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE EFFICACY TO, TO MAKE MUCH HAPPEN IN THAT RESPECT, OR, OR WE MIGHT WELL, WELL, THAT'S WHAT I KIND OF HEARD.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I HEARD FROM THE, THE AD HOC COMMITTEE IS IF, IF A MOTEL

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HITS A TRIGGER, AND I THINK MR. GOBEL USED THE WORD COLLABORATIVE, RIGHT? SO NOW WE GO, HEY, YOU'VE, YOU'VE REACHED THIS THRESHOLD, WHAT'S GOING ON? AND WE'LL HELP THEM FIGURE OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING.

AND, AND MAYBE IT'S A NEW MANAGER THAT'S, THAT'S NOT FOLLOWING THE RULES, OR MAYBE IT'S A COUNTY PROGRAM OR COUNTY CONTRACTOR THAT ISN'T HELPING, THAT'S, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE COULD HELP WITH AND WE CAN PROVIDE SOME SOLUTIONS.

WE CAN SEND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OUT AND LOOK AT SOME, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL CHANGES TO THE PROPERTY.

WE CAN RECOMMEND BEST PRACTICES TO THEM.

SO WOULD THERE BE ANY KIND OF DETERRENT FOR CROSSING THAT THRESHOLD? THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.

NUMBER TWO SAYS, OR, OR, OR NUMBER FOUR SAYS ESTABLISH A COMPLIANCE PLAN.

WHAT'S THE FIRST STEP? WHAT'S THE SECOND STEP? WHAT'S THE THIRD STEP IN WHAT TIMEFRAME? 30 DAYS, 60 DAYS, 90 DAYS.

SO I, THERE, THERE EVENTUALLY HAS TO BE SOME KIND OF A STICK WITH, ALONG WITH THE CARROT, RIGHT? YEAH.

A SAMPLE COULD BE A PHONE CALL.

A STEP ONE, A LETTER IS STEP TWO, A MEETING IS STEP THREE AND A HEARING IS STEP FOUR.

YEAH.

REV REVOCATION OF, OF PERMIT IS PART OF THAT.

AND THEN DOES THAT PUT US AT ODDS WITH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE WHO HAS DIFFERENT THOUGHTS ON, UH, I, I DON'T THINK ADMINISTRATIVE CAUSE WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING WHERE THE, WHERE THE FUNDS CAME TO PAY FOR THE ROOM FROM.

BUT THE REAL ISSUE THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HAS CONCERN IS WITH THE, THE, UM, INCOME DISCRIMINATION IS THE TERM, AND THAT'S USING SOMEBODY'S INCOME TO D UH, DISCRIMINATING AGAINST A PERSON FOR THEIR SOURCE OF INCOME.

SO PERFECT EXAMPLE IS A, UM, UH, UH, A LANDLORD DISCRIMINATING AGAINST A SECTION EIGHT RECIPIENT AND, UH, IN DOING SO, UH, IN A MANNER THAT VIOLATES THE LAW.

SO THAT THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO REMEMBER IS WE AREN'T FOCUSING ON INCOME, WE'RE FOCUSING ON BEHAVIOR WITH THIS AD HOC COMMITTEE RECOMMENDATION, BEHAVIOR AND OPERATIONAL, UH, STANDARDS REALLY, UH, BY THE PROPERTY OWNER OR THE OPERATOR.

THANKS, MORGAN.

WELL, THAT ANSWER ANSWERS MY QUESTIONS, OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF WORK.

THANK YOU.

UM, WERE THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS? NO SPEAKERS, SIR.

OKAY.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED ANY KIND OF A MOTION, DO WE? WELL, I THINK WE NEED A MOTION FOR THE COUNCIL TO ACCEPT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, WHICH THEN DIRECTS STAFF TO ACTUALLY DO SOME WORK ON THIS AND BRING IT BACK.

DO YOU, UH, STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON DIRECTION? NO, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

ALL RIGHT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THEN TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

THERE ARE NO GENERAL INFORMATION ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION AND NO OTHER FIRST READINGS OR ORDINANCES.

ITEM 24 IS THE SECOND READING IN ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND A SECTION OF CHAPTER 13.37.

AND I'LL ASK OUR CITY CLERK TO READ THE TITLE.

BUT FIRST, ANGELA ARE THE SPEAKER CARDS.

FOR THIS ITEM.

WE HAVE NO SPEAKERS CARDS, AND THE TITLE IS AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND SECTION 13.3 7.040 OF CHAPTER 13.37 OF THE EL CAJON MUNICIPAL CODE TO ELIMINATE BUILDING SEWER INSPECTIONS RELATED TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS.

I LOOKING FOR A MOTION THEN? SECOND.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

ALL RIGHT, THANK

[23. CLOSED SESSIONS:]

YOU, ANGELA.

THAT BRINGS US TO CLOSED SESSION.

WE HAVE THREE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA.

OUR CITY ATTORNEY WILL, UM, RECITE THE TITLE AND LEAD US IN THE CLOSED SESSION.

THANK YOU MAYOR.

UH, MAYOR WELLS, THE FIRST ITEM, ITEM NUMBER 25.

IT'S A CLOSED SESSION FOR CONFERENCE WITH LABOR NEGOTIATORS.

THE AGENCY'S DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVES ARE GRAHAM MITCHELL AND MARISOL THORN.

UH, THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT, UH, NEGOTIATIONS WILL BE CONDUCTED WITH ARE THE EL CAJON MID-MANAGEMENT AND PROFESSIONAL EMPLOYEES GROUP, THE EL CAJON MUNICIPAL EMPLOYEES, AND THE EL CAJON PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTERS LOCAL 46 0 3.

ITEM 26 IS A CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL ON ANTICIPATED LITIGATION, UH, SIGNIFICANT EXPOSURE LITIGATION PURSUANT TO PARAGRAPH TWO OF SUBDIVISION D OF SECTION 5 49, 56 0.9.

IT'S ONE POTENTIAL CASE.

IT'S A, IT'S A MATTER THAT WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY.

THERE ARE FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES DESCRIBED ON THE AGENDA.

UH, TO SUMMARIZE, IT DEALS WITH THE, UH, WARNINGS THAT WERE SENT TO, TO SEVEN MOTELS ABOUT VIOLATIONS OF THE CITY'S GOOD ZONING CODE AND THE RESPONSE FROM THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, OFFICE OF ATTORNEY GENERAL AND THEIR CONCERNS WITH THE, UM, THE WARNINGS VIOLATING THE STATE'S FAIR EMPLOYMENT AND HOUSING ACT.

AND THE THIRD ITEM IS ITEM 27.

IT'S, IT'S A CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL FOR EXISTING LITIGATION PURSUANT TO PARAGRAPH ONE IS SUBDIVISION D OF CAL, UH,

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I'M SORRY, GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 4 9 56 0.9.

AND THE NAME OF THE CASE IS FIRST MAIN PARTNERS INC.

VERSUS CITY OF EL CAJON AT ALL.

SUPERIOR COURT CASE NUMBER 37 DASH 2020 DASH 22 0 53, I THINK.

MAKE A MOTION THEN TO ADJOURN THE CLOSED SESSION.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE GONNA GO TO CLOSED SESSION AND WE'LL BE BACK IN A FEW MINUTES AND CONCLUDE THE MEETING.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ALL RIGHT, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'RE BACK FROM CLOSED SESSION.

I WILL PASS IT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY WHO WILL REPORT ON THE HAPPENINGS OF CLOSED SESSION.

THANK YOU.

MAYOR WELLS, THE CITY COUNCIL MET IN CLOSED SESSION ON THE THREE ITEMS DESCRIBED PREVIOUSLY ON THE FIRST ITEM, ITEM 25.

THE CONFERENCE WITH LABOR NEGOTIATORS DIRECTION WAS GIVEN TO THE NEGOTIATORS ON THE SECOND ITEM, UH, FOR CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL AND ANTICIPATED LITIGATION.

UM, PREVIOUSLY THE COUNCIL HAD AUTHORIZED THE CITY MANAGER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY TO, UM, ENGAGE SPECIAL COUNSEL SERVICES TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE THAT'S DESCRIBED IN FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES.

UM, WE HAVE THE CITY COUNCIL HAS DECIDED TO IN THAT ASSIGNMENT, AND SO THERE WILL NOT BE A, UM, AN ENGAGEMENT OF SUCH AN ATTORNEY.

IN ITEM 27, THE CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL ON EXISTING LITIGATION DIRECTION WAS GIVEN TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, UH, IN THAT MATTER.

ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

THIS BRINGS TO ADJOURNMENT, THE ADJOURNED REVEREND JOINT MEETING OF THE ELCON CITY COUNCIL ON ACCOUNT EL CAJON HOUSING AUTHORITY HELD THIS 13TH DAY OF DECEMBER, 2022 IS ADJOURNED TILL TUESDAY, DECEMBER 13TH, 2022 AT 7:00 PM THANK YOU VERY MUCH.