[CALL TO ORDER]
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I CALLED THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
WAS IT STAND FOR A FLAG? SALUTE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER MEROSE PRESENT.
SO PRESENT AND COMMISSIONER BAEZ PRESENT, ALL COMMISSIONERS PRESENT.
[CHAIRPERSON’S WELCOME]
WELCOME TO THE EL CAJON PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.THIS MEETING IS BEING LIVE STREAMED ON THE CITY OF EL CAJON WEBSITE.
APPEALS OF FINAL DECISIONS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION MADE THIS EVENING MUST BE FILED IN WRITING WITH THE CITY CLERK BEFORE 5:00 PM FRIDAY, DECEMBER 16TH, AND MUST INCLUDE THE PAYMENT OF A FILING FEE.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON EITHER A NON AGENDA OR AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT, PLEASE FILL OUT A REQUEST TO SPEAK CARD LOCATED BY THE AGENDA AND TURN IT INTO THE SECRETARY WHO WILL CALL YOU UP TO SPEAK.
WHEN THE AGENDA ITEM COMES UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, WE ASK US, YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME, SPELLING YOUR LAST NAME.
SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.
THE DISPLAY ON THE PODIUM, AS WELL AS THE OTHER MONITORS IN THE CHAMBER WILL SHOW TIME COUNTING DOWN AT 30 SECONDS.
THE PODIUM CLOCK READOUT WILL TURN RED.
SIGNIFYING YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS UNTIL THE END OF YOUR TIME.
APPLICANTS AND INDIVIDUALS REPRESENTING GROUPS OF PEOPLE MAY BE ALLOWED MORE TIME IF APPROPRIATE.
ALL PUBLIC HEARING COMMENTS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO ME AS THE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION AND NOT TO INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS OR STAFF MEMBERS.
PLEASE TURN OFF ALL ELECTRONIC DEVICES IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE SO PURSUANT TO CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION ONE 14 DASH 79, A COMMISSIONER WHO HAS RECEIVED EVIDENCE RELATED TO A MATTER BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, OTHER THAN AN UNESCORTED VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE SUCH INFORMATION.
[PUBLIC COMMENT]
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL TAKE COMMENT FROM ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ON ANY ITEM OF BUSINESS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE COMMISSION.THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA UNDER STATE LAW.
NO ACTION CAN BE TAKEN ON ITEMS BROUGHT FORWARD UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT EXCEPT TO REFER TO STAFF FOR ADMINISTRATION.
REPLACE IT ON THE FUTURE AGENDA.
IF THERE'S ANYONE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE DO SO NOW.
UH, DID YOU FILE A SPEAKER CARD? I DID NOT.
AND THIS IS A NON AGENDA ITEM.
GIVE US YOUR NAME, SPELLING OF YOUR LAST NAME IF YOU DON'T MIND.
AND I JUST WISH TO NOTIFY THE BODY HERE AND THE PEOPLE HERE THAT I AM AN EMPLOYEE OF SDG AND E.
I AM THE LIAISON FOR SDG E TO THE CITY OF EL CAJON.
SO I HAVE WORKED WITH SOME OF THE STAFF MEMBERS AND TONIGHT I AM NOT HERE IN MY OFFICIAL CAPACITY.
I AM HERE REPRESENTING MY OWNERSHIP IN THE PROPERTY FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE.
AND THAT IS ALL THAT I AM HERE TO, TO DO TONIGHT.
ANYBODY ELSE CARE TO COME DOWN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHT.
[CONSENT]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.A MOTION WILL COVER ALL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
DOES THE COMMISSION WISH TO PULL ANY ITEMS ON THE CONSENT? NO, SIR.
STAFF, DO YOU WISH TO PULL ANY ITEMS? UH, NO CHANGES FROM STAFF.
I MOVE TO ADOPT THE MINUTES AS RECORDED.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SERCO, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER VALEZ.
MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
[Public Hearing Item 2]
WE WILL MOVE TO THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.THAT IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO.
IT IS EXEMPT AND STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AS IT GOES ON TO CITY COUNCIL STAFF.
SO AGAIN, THIS ITEM IS THE 2022 ZONING CODE UPDATE.
SO, UH, THE SCOPE OF THIS YEAR'S UPDATE HAS BEEN DIRECTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL, BUT THEN ALSO APPROVED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, AT YOUR MOST RECENT MEETING.
SO, TONIGHT'S REQUEST IS, IS ULTIMATELY THE FIRST OF TWO PLANNED UPDATES, UH, WITH THE SECOND PORTION ANTICIPATED COMING FORWARD IN MARCH, OR I SHOULD SAY SPRING OF 23.
UM, THIS UPDATE IS PRIMARILY RELATED TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE GENERAL PLAN HOUSING
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ELEMENT, INCLUDING, UH, RECENT HOUSING RELATED STATE LAWS.WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED SOME OTHER MINOR, MINOR TECHNICAL CHANGES IN ORDER TO IMPROVE, UH, CLARITY AND CONSISTENCY THROUGHOUT THE ZONING CODE.
SO HERE I'M GONNA START WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
UM, THE FIRST ITEM, UH, STAFF HAS RECEIVED SEVERAL INQUIRIES RELATED TO ALTERNATIVE FUEL VEHICLES, UM, INCLUDING THE SERVICING OF THOSE VEHICLES, WHICH ARE PRIMARILY RELATED TO DIAGNOSTIC AND COMPUTER RELATED ACTIVITIES.
AND SO WE WANTED TO LOOK AT THE ZONING CODE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE PREPARED AS WE ANTICIPATE THOSE TYPES OF USES, UM, CONTINUING TO INCREASE.
SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, UH, THE ZONING CODE DOES NOT DEFINE OR ESTABLISH SEPARATE REQUIREMENTS FOR THESE TYPES OF VEHICLES.
UH, THEREFORE, STAFF HAS PROPOSED AMENDING THE LAND USE TABLE TO INCLUDE ALTERNATIVE FUEL VEHICLES WITH OTHER AUTO SALES, AND THEN TO ALLOW THE STORAGE, UH, SALES AND DELIVERY AND AS WELL AS SERVICE AND REPAIR ON INDUSTRIAL PROPERTIES FOR TYPES OF VEHICLES ON PROPERTIES THAT ARE GREATER THAN 20 ACRES IN SIZE.
SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO, UH, LINE, UH, THIS TYPE OF USE, UM, IN, UH, TO BE CONSISTENT WITH INTERNET BASED, UH, BUSINESS MODELS THAT WE'RE SEEING, UM, TO BE MORE TYPICAL THESE DAYS.
UM, I WANTED TO EQUATE IT TO, UM, SOMETHING THAT YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH.
UM, SO WE WERE THINKING OF THE EXAMPLE OF SEARS.
UM, SO SEARS USED TO HAVE THEIR, UH, APPLIANCE CENTER, UM, OUT IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE, AND THEY WOULD PRIMARILY SELL THEIR APPLIANCES FROM THE MALL.
SO IN A SIMILAR FASHION, WE WOULD STILL HAVE SALES OCCURRING IN COMMERCIAL ZONES, BUT THEN ALSO ALLOWING FOR, UM, STORAGE AND DISTRIBUTION, UH, THROUGH THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE.
UM, THE NEXT ITEM IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CATEGORY IS A NEW ZONING CODE CHAPTER.
UM, IT'S PROPOSED TO ALLOW DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
UM, SO THIS IS REALLY INTENDED JUST TO BE AN ALTERNATIVE PROCESS TO ACCOMMODATE MAJOR AND UNIQUE DEVELOPMENTS, UH, WITH COMBINATIONS OF USES AND MODIFIED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
SO, AN EXAMPLE OF A TYPE OF PROJECT THAT WOULD REQUIRE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT COULD BE, UM, SOMETHING THAT'S MORE TIME BASED.
SO LIKE IF YOU HAD A MIXED USE PROJECT WHERE THERE WAS A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT AND A RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT, UM, BUT THE DEVELOPER WANTED TO DEFER THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT COMMERCIAL COMPONENT FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.
THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS A MECHANISM THAT WE COULD USE, UM, TO ENSURE THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT, BUT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT BUILDS OUT IN A FASHION THAT MEETS BOTH THE DEVELOPER'S NEEDS, UM, AND THE CITY'S NEEDS.
THE LAST ITEM ON THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, PORTION IS THE DEFINITION, UH, ADDING THE DEFINITION OF A BIOMEDICAL OFFICE.
UM, THIS CAME OUT AS SOME OF THE CITY COUNCIL GOAL SETTING ACTIVITIES.
AND SO WE'VE ADDED A DEFINITION FOR BIOMEDICAL OFFICE AND THEN INCORPORATED THAT INTO, UH, THE LAND USE CODE, UH, TO BE PERMITTED IN COMMERCIAL ZONES AND THEN ALSO INDUSTRIAL ZONES.
SO THE INTENT THERE IS REALLY JUST TO KIND OF STREAMLINE, UM, THAT USE AND ENABLE THAT USE TO COME INTO THE CITY WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH ANY, UM, EXTRA ZONING, CONSISTENCY REVIEWS OR OTHER REVIEWS THAT MIGHT BE NECESSARY.
SO THE BIG PORTION OF THE ZONING CODE UPDATE IS REALLY RELATED TO HOUSING.
UM, THE, UH, 2021 THROUGH 2029 HOUSING ELEMENT, UH, AS WE REPORTED RECENTLY WAS APPROVED BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
AND, UH, PROGRAM 14 OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT INCLUDED NUMEROUS, UM, ZONING CODE UPDATES THAT WERE MANDATED BY NEW STATE LAWS.
AND THE HOUSING ELEMENT SAID THAT WE WOULD BRING THOSE FORWARD WITHIN, UH, ONE YEAR OF HOUSING ELEMENT ADOPTION AND APPROVAL.
SO WE'RE BRINGING THOSE FORWARD NOW FOR PROGRAM 14.
UM, THOSE INCLUDE, UH, REGULATIONS FOR EMERGENCY SHELTERS, UM, ADDING LOW BARRIER NAVIGATION CENTERS, TRANSITIONAL AND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, UH, DENSITY BONUS ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS OR ADUS, AND THEN, UH, AS WELL AS OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS.
SO THE ADU, UH, AND DESIGN STANDARDS ARE, AS I SAID, A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE UPDATE.
UM, STAFF DID COMPLETE THESE UPDATES WITH THE HELP OF A CONSULTANT.
AND MIKE LEON, OUR SENIOR PLANNER, WORKED ON THIS PROJECT.
HE'S GONNA TELL YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE PROCESS.
GOOD EVENING HONORABLE COMMISSIONERS.
UH, THE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS AND ACCESSORY DWELL UNIT UPDATES IN THE PROPOSED ZONING CODE AMENDMENT, UH, ARE FUNDED THROUGH A CALIFORNIA DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT GRANT.
UH, AFTER A COMPETITIVE PROCESS, THE CITY SELECTED DUE TO CONSULTING TO EXECUTE THE PROJECT IN COLLABORATION WITH DEX CITY STAFF WERE ABLE TO SEEK INPUT AND FEEDBACK FROM A WORKING GROUP OF LOCAL DEVELOPERS AND DESIGNERS IN THE PREPARATION OF THESE REGULATIONS.
FOR EXAMPLE, IN EARLY JUNE, A WORKSHOP WAS HELD TO REVIEW EXISTING REGULATIONS AND SEEK THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE BUILDING COMMUNITY BEFORE INITIAL DRAFT STANDARDS WERE PREPARED.
LATER IN OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER, THE CITY MADE DRAFT REGULATIONS AVAILABLE TO THE WORKING GROUP AND PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT DIRECTLY ON THE DRAFT.
I'D LIKE TO THANK THOSE THAT PARTICIPATED, INCLUDING RAN SALUM OF NEW VISION BUILDING AND DESIGN, ALAN AUSTIN OF AUSTIN AND ASSOCIATES,
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KAREN LBS OF CITY VENTURES.RUSS HALEY OF CITY MARK, AND DAN FEDER OF FNF PROPERTIES.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK ELIZABETH DIXON FROM DUEK, UH, WHO IS IN THE AUDIENCE DUDE'S EFFORTS IN DEVELOPING THE DRAFT AND ITS GRAPHICS WERE INSTRUMENTAL AND THEY'RE HEAVY LIFTING ENABLED STAFF TO BRING THE ITEM FORWARD AT THIS TIME.
UM, AND THEN THE LAST ITEM THAT WE HAD ON THE HOUSING RELATED UPDATES IS RELATED TO SB NINE FOR URBAN LOT SPLITS.
UM, SO THAT WAS A LAW THAT WAS APPROVED, UM, BY THE GOVERNOR, UH, AFTER THE PREPARATION OF THE HOUSING ELEMENT, UM, WE CHOSE TO IMPLEMENT AND, UH, BRING FORWARD THOSE, UM, GUIDELINES IN CONJUNCTION, UH, WITH THE NEW SB NINE LAW, UH, WITH THIS ZONING CODE UPDATE AS WELL.
SO LASTLY, ON THIS SLIDE, WE'VE ALSO INCLUDED, UH, THE MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS. UM, UH, THERE'S TWO SMALL ITEMS. SO THE FIRST IS, UM, LOOKING AT HOME BASED BUSINESSES.
UH, WE'VE HAD A COUPLE INQUIRIES WHERE, UM, HOME BASED, UH, BUSINESS OPERATORS WANTED TO DO MUSIC LESSONS OR TUTORING FROM THEIR HOME.
UM, THE EXISTING HOME OCCUPATION FROM A REGULATIONS DON'T PERMIT, UM, CUSTOMERS OR CLIENTS COMING TO A PLACE OF BUSINESS.
AND SO BEING THAT THIS IS A LOW IMPACT USE IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE AND, AND THE WAY THAT THINGS ARE KIND OF CHANGING THROUGH STATE LAW FOR LIKE MICRO ENTERPRISE HOME KITCHENS AND OTHER USES, UH, WE PROPOSE KIND OF LOOSENING UP THAT STANDARD SO THAT MUSIC LESSONS AND TUTORING COULD BE CONDUCTED FROM A HOME.
AND THEN THE SECOND ITEM IS THE EXTENSION OF THE EMERG, THE EMERGENCY HOUSING PILOT PROGRAM THROUGH 2024.
UH, THE MEUS CABINS HAVE RECENTLY BEEN COMPLETED AND THERE, UM, SOON TO BE OCCUPIED, UM, IF NOT OCCUPIED YET.
UM, THE PROGRAM, THE PILOT PROGRAM WAS INTENDED TO END IN 2023, AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S AN OVERALL FULL CALENDAR YEAR, UH, FOR THEM TO OPERATE THE PROGRAM, AND THEN WE CAN MONITOR IT AND SEE HOW IT'S WORKING, AND THEN ALLOW US TO COME BACK IN 2024 TO REPORT ON THAT PILOT PROGRAM AND SEE IF IT SHOULD BE EXTENDED FURTHER AT THAT TIME.
SO THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
UM, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE ZONING CODE AMENDMENT FOR THOSE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UH, UPDATES AS WELL AS THE HOUSING AND MINOR TECHNICAL CHANGES.
AND WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
YOU'VE ALL REVIEWED IT, I TAKE IT.
I NOTICED THAT HE, UH, THE DEFINITION IS THAT, UH, ANY OTHER FUEL EXCEPT GASOLINE, WHICH OF COURSE INCLUDES ELECTRICITY, INCLUDES LP GAS AND ALSO NATURAL GAS.
HOWEVER, THE DIRECTION THAT THE CITY SEEMS TO BE GOING IS, UH, UH, JUST SPECIFICALLY JUST ELECTRIC, NOT THE LP GAS OR THE NATURAL GAS.
IS THAT, UH, WHY IS THAT? SO I THINK WE WERE TRYING TO BE INCLUSIVE OF ALL ALTERNATIVE, UH, VEHICLE TYPES.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT'S COMING FORWARD RELATED TO, UH, FUEL CELLS AND, UM, HYDROGEN AND OTHER ITEMS. AND SO IN CONJUNCTION WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE, OUR GOAL IS TYPICALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UM, PAVING THE WAY FOR THOSE TECHNOLOGIES TO BE ABLE TO COME TO THE CITY SO THAT WE'RE A WELCOME PARTNER TO THOSE, AND THAT WE'VE SET FORWARD AN APPROPRIATE FRAMEWORK, UM, SO THAT WHEN THEY DO COME IN THE CITY, THEY CAN BE COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND USES, BUT WE WEREN'T, UM, SO WE ARE TRYING TO BE MORE INCLUSIVE AND IN INCLUDING ANYTHING THAT WAS, UM, NON GASOLINE POWERED.
I UNDERSTAND, UH, MORE INCLUSIVE, HOWEVER, IT SEEMS THAT THE DIRECTION IS ELECTRICITY ONLY, THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE INCLUSIVE.
UM, WELL, THE, THE PROPOSED ZONING CODE CHANGE, IT'S, UM, JUST FOR ANY ALTERNATIVE VEHICLES.
SO IT COULD BE, UM, ANY OF THOSE ALTERNATIVE FUEL TYPES.
SO SOMEBODY WANTS TO USE LP FUEL OR NATURAL GAS, THEY CAN DO SO.
UM, THE NEXT ONE IS REGARDING THE, UH, UH, THE PROVISIONAL HOUSING.
I KNOW WE APPROVED IT ABOUT A YEAR AGO, OR MAYBE LONGER THAN THAT, AND IT WAS GOING TO BE, UH, BUILT AT THE, UH, CHURCH GROUNDS MM-HMM.
I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS UNDER, UH, FUNCTIONING, BUT IT HAS NOT.
THAT SEEMS LIKE IT JUST COMPLETED THE, UH, THE HOUSING OR THE CUBICLES FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE IN.
IS THAT, IS THAT CORRECT? MY UNDERSTANDING? UM, SO THE, THEY RECENTLY, UM, COMPLETED ALL OF THE CONSTRUCTION AND THEY RECEIVED THEIR FINAL, UH, BUILDING PERMIT APPROVALS.
UM, I HAVEN'T BEEN UPDATED ON WHETHER OR NOT INDIVIDUALS HAVE MOVED IN.
I DUNNO IF ANY OF THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS ARE AWARE OF THAT, BUT I KNEW THAT THEY WERE, UM, GETTING PREPARED TO HAVE INDIVIDUALS MOVE IN.
UH, AND SO YES, IT WAS JUST RECENTLY COMPLETED IN THE LAST, UH, MONTH OR SO.
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UM, I'M FRIENDS WITH PASTOR ROLAND SLADE OVER THERE, AND HE SAID HE WAS DOING INTERVIEWS.I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THEM HAVE BEEN OCCUPIED YET.
THEY WERE STARTING TO, UH, LOOK AT APPLICANTS FOR THE HOUSING.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY MOVED IN YET.
AND THEN IN SO FAR AS THE, UM, COLLABORATIVE REGARDING THE ECONOMIC IMPROVEMENT, WHEN YOU SAY THE WORD COLLABORATIVE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CITY AND BUSINESS COMING TOGETHER.
IN WHAT WAY WILL THE CITY BE COMING TOGETHER WITH BUSINESS? ARE THEY INVESTING OR ARE THEY JUST MAKING RULES AND REGULATIONS WHICH ARE MORE, UH, OPEN TO BUSINESS TO CONDUCT BUSINESS HERE IN EL CAJON? SURE.
SO I THINK, UM, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVE FROM THE CITY COUNCIL WAS REALLY TO LOOK AT SOME OF OUR ZONING REGULATIONS AND, UM, HAVE THOSE BE READY AND, UH, PREPARED FOR NEW TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ANTICIPATED.
YOU KNOW, SO OUR OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, UM, SOMETIMES, UM, CAN BE OUTDATED AND USING OF OLD TERMINOLOGY.
YOU KNOW, AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE LAND USE TABLE, UH, MIGHT HAVE A LISTING FOR TYPEWRITER REPAIR.
SO OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NOT MANY BUSINESSES CONDUCTING TYPEWRITER REPAIR ANYMORE.
AND SO THIS EFFORT IS, UM, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ANALYSIS DONE BY CITY COUNCIL, WAS LOOKING AT LIKE THE BIOMEDICAL OFFICES AND THE ALTERNATIVE FUEL, UH, VEHICLES, AND LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN HAVE THE ZONING BE READY SO THAT WHEN SOMEONE COMES AND SAYS, WE WANNA GET A BUSINESS LICENSE TO OPERATE THIS BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF EL CAJON, WE CAN SAY, GREAT, WE KNOW WHERE YOU CAN GO AND HOW YOU CAN OPERATE.
AND WE HAVE THOSE REGULATIONS IN PLACE AS OPPOSING TO BEING REACTIVE AND SAYING, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW.
UM, YOU KNOW, THIS DOESN'T FIT OUR DEFINITION FOR A, UM, AUTOMOBILE, THEREFORE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS ZONING CONSISTENCY REVIEW.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE APPEALED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
SO THE INTENT REALLY, WHEN I SAY COLLABORATIVE, IT'S MORE ABOUT IT BEING ANTICIPATORY OF THE TYPES OF BUSINESSES THAT WE ENVISION, UM, WANTING TO COME TO THE CITY.
SO IT'S NOT COLLABORATIVE IN A FINANCIAL SENSE, IT'S COLLABORATIVE IN A, IN A ZONING SENSE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? UM, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UH, IT, THE, THE SUMMARY AND THE ZONING CODE THAT I READ SOUNDED, IT'S GOT A LOT OF WORDS IN THERE.
IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A PARALLEL PROCESS TO A REGULAR PLANNING DEVELOPMENT.
SO WHAT MAKES THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DIFFERENT? WELL, I KNOW SPECIFICALLY WE DIDN'T HAVE AN ENABLING, UM, PROCESS IN THE, IN THE CODE TO ALLOW THESE TYPES OF AGREEMENTS.
UM, AND, AND THE MAIN, UM, ISSUE THAT I HAD SEEN AS IT RELATES TO THESE TYPES OF AGREEMENTS IS REALLY THE DEFERRAL OF CERTAIN ITEMS OR CONDITIONS.
UM, THEY CAN BE, UM, SOMETIMES STIPULATED IN THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL THROUGH A TIME METRIC, BUT THIS KIND OF GIVES US BETTER LEGAL AUTHORITY TO IMPLEMENT THESE TYPES OF AGREEMENTS, UM, MOVING FORWARD.
UM, SO IT'S CLEARLY SPELLED OUT AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING THAT'S JUST BEING LISTED IN A, IN A CONDITION OF APPROVAL.
UM, WE WORKED ON THIS, UH, WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO ADD TO THAT? OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.
AT THIS TIME, WE CAN OPEN UP TO PUBLIC HEARING.
ARE THERE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NOT FOR THIS ONE.
SEEING THAT THERE'S NO ONE THAT WANTS COME DOWN, I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MORROW, SAY GOODBYE.
COMMISSIONER VALEZ, PLEASE VOTE.
ALL RIGHT, SO END OF THE YEAR TIME TO UPDATE THE ZONING CODE AGAIN? YEAH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION IN AN ORDER RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF PROPOSED ZONING CODE AMENDMENT NUMBER Z CA 20 22 0 0 2.
SECOND MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER ERCO, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER P*****K RUD, PLEASE VOTE.
[Public Hearing Item 3]
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ALL RIGHT.WE ARE ONTO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE.
THIS IS GREENFIELD DRIVE AND EAST MAIN STREET SPECIFIC PLAN.
IT IS SE EXEMPT AND RECOMMENDS CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL STAFF.
UM, SO AGAIN, THIS IS A REQUEST TO ESTABLISH A SPECIFIC PLAN IN ORDER TO REGULATE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF A VACANT PROPERTY AT THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF GREENFIELD DRIVE AND EAST MAIN STREET.
SO I REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE, UH, FOR THIS ACTION THAT THERE'S, UM, NO DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSED.
IT'S REALLY JUST A REGULATORY MECHANISM THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD.
SO HERE'S AN AERIAL MAP OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, UM, SHOWN IN YELLOW.
UM, THE OVERALL SITE IS ABOUT 25 ACRES IN SIZE.
AND THIS IN CONJUNCTION WITH SOME OF THOSE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITIES FROM THE CITY COUNCIL WAS IDENTIFIED, UM, AS THE CITY'S LARGEST VACANT SITE IN A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR.
AND ONE OF, UM, SPECIAL IMPORTANCE TO THE CITY, UH, BECAUSE IT'S THE LAST LARGE AVAILABLE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPED.
SO THE CURRENT REQUEST WAS INITIATED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN JUNE OF 2022, AND WHAT THEY ASKED STAFF TO DO WAS BRING FORWARD A PLAN TO ENSURE ORDER ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY IN THE FUTURE.
SO BASED ON THE CURRENT REGULATIONS FOR THE PROPERTY, UM, IT COULD BE DEVELOPED OR CERTAIN TYPES OF BUILDING PERMITS COULD BE ISSUED WITHOUT INPUT FROM SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO WHAT THE PROPOSED SPECIFIC PLAN WILL DO IS REQUIRE THE PREPARATION OF A COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING DOCUMENT, UH, PRIOR TO ANY DEVELOPMENT AT THE SITE.
AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE HEARINGS WITH BOTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, AND CITY COUNCIL PRIOR TO ANYTHING BEING CONSTRUCTED OR APPROVED.
SO AGAIN, NO DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSED.
UM, NO REGULATIONS ARE CHANGING OTHER THAN REQUIRING THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SITE.
UM, THE ONE OTHER, UM, QUESTION IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS THAT WE HAD RECEIVED.
UM, SO THE, THE PROPERTY IS OWNED BY THE, UH, KAISER HEALTH FOUNDATION.
UM, THEY HAD REACHED OUT TO US AND WE ASKED FOR UPDATES ON ANY PLANNED FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AT THE SITE.
UM, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT, THEY HAD, UH, INDICATED TO STAFF THAT THEY DID NOT PLAN TO TAKE ACTION ON DEVELOPING THE SITE UNTIL 2035.
SO AGAIN, THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT THAT'S PROPOSED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS.
WE DON'T SEE ANYTHING COMING FORWARD.
UH, BUT WHAT WE REALLY WANNA DO IS TO MAKE SURE, UM, THAT ANY PUBLIC OR ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY, INCLUDING ANY OUTREACH TO SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, DOES REQUIRE HEARINGS WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, AND THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO ULTIMATELY, THAT'S REALLY ALL, UH, THAT THE SPECIFIC PLAN IS FOR.
SO NO DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, NO USE CHANGES, NO GENERAL PLAN CHANGE, NO ZONING, JUST MERELY TO MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS IN THE FUTURE, ALL THE PROPERTY UNDER SURROUNDING THE SITE WILL GET THAT PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE AND WILL HAVE, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SO STAFF DID RECEIVE, UM, TWO PHONE CALLS AND ONE EMAIL IN RESPONSE, UH, TO THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE FOR THIS ITEM.
UH, WE DID PROVIDE, UH, ONE COPY OF AN EMAIL, UH, ON THE DAAS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS.
UM, OVERALL, THERE WERE NO OBJECTIONS THAT WERE RECEIVED.
PEOPLE WERE SUPPORTIVE OF MAKING SURE THAT THERE WAS ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE, UH, THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS AND THROUGH INPUT FROM THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS.
SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE THE SPECIFIC PLAN, AGAIN, TO ENSURE THAT THE LARGE SCALE SITE IS ONLY DEVELOPED AFTER A COMPREHENSIVE PLANNING DOCUMENT IS PREPARED.
SO THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION, RIGHT? SO QUESTION I HAVE THEN IS, WITHOUT THE SPECIFIC PLAN, THEN THERE, THERE'S A, THEY CAN DEVELOP BY RIGHT? THERE'S NO PUBLIC NOTICE, THERE'S NO WEIGHING IN BY THE NEIGHBORS OR THE LOCAL COMMUNITY.
IT CAN JUST RUN ROUGH SHOT, BASICALLY.
RIGHT? SO THERE'S CERTAIN ITEMS, UH, UNDER THE ZONING CODE, UH, THAT ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHT OR APPROVED BY THE DIRECTOR, UH, WITHOUT GOING OUT FOR A PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE.
UM, SO, UM, THOSE ITEMS COULD BE BROUGHT FORWARD AS OF RIGHT NOW, UM, WITH THIS, UM, SPECIFIC PLAN ADOPTION, THE SPECIFIC PLAN ITSELF SAYS THAT YOU NEED TO COME FORWARD WITH AN OVERALL PROJECT FOR THE ENTIRE SITE AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY PIECEMEALING IT OR HAVING, YOU KNOW, ONE PORTION OF THE SITE DEVELOPED WHILE WE'RE LEAVING THE OTHERS REMAINING VACANT.
SO THIS WOULD STOP THAT FROM BEING ABLE TO TO BE POSSIBLE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? SO I RECALL, I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG AGO THIS MIGHT HAVE BEEN FIVE YEARS AGO OR 10 YEARS AGO, KAISER WAS SAYING THAT THIS WAS THE THIRD HOSPITAL THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BUILD.
SO THEY DECIDED NOT TO DO THIS ONE FIRST, BUT THEY WERE GONNA DO ONE IN, I THINK CHULA VISTA AND THEN ONE IN, UH, RIVERSIDE.
AND THEN THIS ONE, THIS SOUNDS LIKE THEY'RE PUSHING IT WAY BACK.
UM, THE LAST APPLICATION THAT WAS SUBMITTED WAS BACK IN 2013, UH, THAT KAISER HAD SUBMITTED, UH, THEY SUBMITTED PLANS, BUT THEN THEY ULTIMATELY
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WITHDREW THOSE, UH, PRIOR TO ANY, UH, PUBLIC HEARINGS OR MEETINGS, UH, MOVING FORWARD.SO YOU'RE CORRECT, IT WAS ABOUT ALMOST 10 YEARS AGO, ABOUT NINE YEARS AGO.
UM, THE, WHAT YOU DESCRIBED IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS TOLD TO STAFF VERBALLY WAS THAT THEY HAD PLANNED TO, UH, MOVE FORWARD WITH A, A DIFFERENT LOCATION AND THEN MOVE FORWARD IN EL CAJON.
BUT AFTER THE PROJECT WAS WITHDRAWN, UM, THERE HAS BEEN, UH, A FEW CORRESPONDENCE WITH KAISER.
UM, THEY, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INITIATIVES FROM COUNCIL, UM, UH, THE CITY HAD REACHED OUT TO KAISER FOR UPDATES, UH, IN THIS PAST YEAR.
AND THAT'S WHEN THEY ADVISED STAFF THAT THEY DIDN'T INTEND TO TAKE ACTION UNTIL 2035.
WELL, I HOPE THAT THEY CAN BE ENCOURAGED TO DO SOMETHING SOON.
I MISS HAVING HOSPITAL ON EL
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STEPH? NOPE.
WELL, AT THIS TIME, LET'S OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING.
I TAKE, WE HAVE SOME SPEAKER CARDS? YES, WE HAVE THREE SPEAKER CARDS.
UH, THE FIRST ONE FROM JOHN CURTIS, HONOR ROLL COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS JOHN CURTIS, C U R T I S.
I LIVE ON THE END OF SAVE AND DRIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THAT FIELD THAT KAISER BOUGHT.
AND I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
UH, AND I DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT I GOT MY NOTES HERE THAT, UH, YOU'RE NOT FOCUSING ON MAXIMIZING THE ECO ECONOMIC POTENTIAL OF THE PROPERTY, BUT RATHER TO ENSURE CONTROLS ON THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WILL BE MADE.
IN RESPECT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION RESOLUTION, AND I'M THE ONE THAT SENT THE EMAIL, SO, UH, SPECIFIC PLAN SP 2 0 2 2 4, I REQUEST THE FOLLOWING COMMENT BE ADDED TO SECTION EIGHT, EXHIBIT A PROPOSED SPECIFIC PLAN, GREENFIELD DRIVE AND MAIN STREET SPECIFIC PLAN, WORDS TO THE EFFECT IS WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY.
YOU KNOW, WHERE'S THE EFFECT THAT ANY FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS AREA MUST INCLUDE AN EVALUATION BY AT LEAST THREE LOCAL, REPUTABLE REAL ESTATE AGENCIES ON THE IMPACT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE ON PROPERTY VALUES FOR THE SURROUNDING HOMEOWNERS.
ANY PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, WHICH NEGATIVELY IMPACTS PROPERTY VALUES FOR THE SURROUNDING HOMEOWNERS WILL NOT BE APPROVED.
I SAY THIS BASED ON A RECENT PAST ZONING EFFORT, BUT REZONING EFFORT THAT WAS ATTEMPTED ON TRAYS, LOMAS.
SO ONE ACRE LOT WAS TRYING TO BE DEVELOPED INTO FIVE HOUSES, VICE THREE, AND A LOT OF WORK WAS PUT IN BY THE DEVELOPER AND THE PLANNING COMMUNITY AND EVERYTHING, AND IT WENT ALL THE WAY UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
IS THAT RIGHT? CITY COUNCIL? MM-HMM.
AND ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS SAID, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, GUYS, IF THIS GOES FORWARD, IT'S GONNA NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE HOMEOWNER VALUES FOR EVERYONE AROUND IT.
AND EVERYONE ELSE SAID, OH, WE'RE NOT GONNA APPROVE THAT.
AND ALL THE EFFORT THOSE PEOPLE PUT IN OUT THE WINDOW, IT WAS A WASTED EFFORT FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE FOR A LOT OF TIMES.
AND, YOU KNOW, I FEEL FOR THAT DEVELOPER GUY.
SO WHY DON'T WE JUST NIP IT IN THE BUD.
WHY DON'T WE JUST SAY IT UP FRONT, YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S GET THAT LOOK FIRST BEFORE YOU SPEND ALL THIS TIME AND EFFORT IN SPINNING YOUR WHEELS ON, IS THIS GONNA NEGATIVELY IMPACT HOMER VALUES OR NOT? GREAT.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK THE CITY ATTORNEY MIGHT HANDLE THAT QUESTION.
I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL WAIT, IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, WE'LL ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY.
SO ONE THING I BELIEVE AS PLANNING COMMISSION, I THINK WE CAN ONLY DEAL WITH LAND USE ISSUES AND NOT HOME VALUES.
AND SO IS THAT WORDING ALLOWED, BARBARA, THAT IT'S TRUE.
UM, CONSIDERATION OF IMPACT ON SURROUNDING ECONOMIC VALUE CANNOT BE CONSIDERED.
IT'S THE ORDERLY PLANNED DEVELOPMENT THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION IS TAXED WITH PAST, WITH CONSIDERING AND NOT HOW IT'S GOING TO AFFECT SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
HOWEVER, THAT MAY NOT BE THE SAME FOR CITY COUNCIL.
THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WANNA BRING UP TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
THEY MIGHT HAVE A LITTLE MORE LATITUDE THERE.
UH, I HATE TO SAY WHAT CITY COUNCIL WOULD DO, BUT THE, THE FACT THAT SURROUNDING PROPERTIES WOULD BE POSITIVELY OR NEGATIVELY, UH, IMPACTED IS NOT A CONSIDERATION IN, UH, PLANNING DECISIONS.
SO IF I MAY ADD JUST ONE THING.
UM, THE, YOU KNOW, THE OVERALL INTENT OF THIS PLAN IS, IS WE CALL IT A BLANK SPECIFIC PLAN.
AND SO THAT IT'S JUST SETTING UP THE PROCESS FOR THE FUTURE.
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ALL OF OUR APPLICATIONS, WE DO ISSUE FOR DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS, A A NOTICE OF APPLICATION.AND SO IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE NOTICE OF APPLICATION, UM, ANY SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNER THAT RECEIVED THAT, UM, COULD SUBMIT A COMMENT REQUESTING AFTER EVALUATING THE PROPOSED SCOPE OF THAT NEW PROJECT IN THE FUTURE, UM, REQUESTING, UH, THAT THE, UM, APPLICANT PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO STAFF.
UM, SO I WOULD THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE ONE MECHANISM WHEREBY IT COULD BE ADDRESSED IN THE FUTURE.
AND THEN THAT COMMENT WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, PROVIDED TO THE APPLICANT AT THAT TIME, AND THEY COULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THEIR PLAN AND ANY ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTS.
UM, I THINK BECAUSE OF THE, THE OVERALL, BECAUSE IT'S ESSENTIALLY A BLANK SPECIFIC PLAN, I THINK OUR, THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO JUST ADOPT IT SO THAT WE HAVE THE PROCESS IN PLACE.
AND THEN IN CONJUNCTION WITH ANY FUTURE APPLICATION, THOSE COMMENTS COULD BE RECEIVED, PROVIDED TO STAFF AND GIVEN TO THE APPLICANT, AND THEN IT COULD BE EVALUATED BASED ON WHATEVER PROJECT SCOPE MAY BE REPOSED.
DOES, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO I UNDERSTAND THE LAW THING, WHICH I WAS NOT AWARE OF.
UM, IT JUST SEEMS TO, THE UNINITIATED INCREDIBLE THAT DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T INCLUDE A CONCEPT OF WHAT IT DOES TO US AROUND IT.
AND IS, I DON'T, IS THERE SOMETHING, IS THAT A LAW CHANGE WE WOULD HAVE TO MAKE LOCALLY OR IS IT THE STATE, THE, IS IT STATE LAW? IT'S MOSTLY TO PREVENT, THAT'S A WORD I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH.
BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT THAT, UH, YOU CAN SAY, I DON'T WANT THAT IN MY BACKYARD.
I DON'T WANT THAT ACROSS MY FENCE.
AND IN OUR ZONING ORDINANCE, THERE'S A LOT OF LATITUDE FOR US TO GO, THIS DOESN'T FIT, BUT WE CAN'T GO MONEY IN ONE DIRECTION OR ANOTHER.
MONEY IS, WE DON'T THINK ABOUT MONEY.
WE'RE ALL, UH, IN STAR TREK RIGHT NOW.
I, MY HOME'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET ON THE A I'M ON BERMUDA LANE RIGHT BY THE MOBILE.
SO I, I BELIEVE WHAT, WHAT THE TIME TO WEIGH IN ON THAT IS THAT IS WHEN, WHEN A PROJECT COMES FORWARD, WE THEN ASK THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE THE ECONOMIC DATA THROUGH STAFF ON WHAT IT'S GONNA DO TO THE, TO THE RESULT, YOU KNOW, TO THE OTHER AREAS.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS SARAH POWERS.
MY NAME IS SARAH POWERS, P O W E R S.
AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER ROSS FOR ENLIGHTENING ME ON A LOT OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED.
BUT, UM, I HAVE A QUESTION, WHICH IS HOW DOES A SPECIFIC PLAN THAT WILL BE RECOMMENDED AND ADOPTED, UM, ENCOURAGE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE THAT IS MOST BENEFICIAL FOR THE CITY? IS THAT, UH, AS OPPOSED TO THE ZONING AND THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE TO THE PROPERTY OWNER? HOW IS A SPECIFIC PLAN BETTER IN ENCOURAGING THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS MOST BENEFICIAL? WELL, TO, I'LL DEFER TO, UH, STAFF ON THAT ONE.
SO I THINK AS WE ALLUDED TO IN THE EARLIER DISCUSSION, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT ZONING ALLOWS CERTAIN THINGS BY, RIGHT? UM, SO, UM, THE SITE COULD BE DEVELOPED IN KIND OF A PIECEMEAL FASHION.
SO A SMALL PROJECT COULD BE BUILT AT THE CORNER, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE COULD COME IN AND PROPOSE ANOTHER GAS STATION AT THE CORNER OR A DIFFERENT PROJECT, AND IT HAS TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS THAT'S DEFINED IN THE ZONING CODE.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE OVERALL SIZE OF THE SITE BEING 25 ACRES AND BEING A CRITICAL COMMERCIAL ASSET FOR THE CITY, THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S OVER ORDERLY DEVELOPMENT OF THE ENTIRETY OF THE SITE.
SO WE'RE THINKING ABOUT, UH, POINTS OF ACCESS, UH, FOR, UH, PROVIDING, UH, FIRE SERVICE ACCESS AND, YOU KNOW, UH, POLICE BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE SITE AND THINKING ABOUT THE SITE IN ITS ENTIRETY.
SO I THINK THE, THE NUANCE BETWEEN EXISTING ZONING AND THE SPECIFIC PLAN AS WE'RE SAYING, WE WANT A COMPREHENSIVE DOCUMENT THAT LOOKS AT ALL OF THOSE GENERAL PLAN GOALS AND POLICIES, AS OPPOSED TO THE LIMITED FRAMEWORK THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IN ZONING IS RIGHT NOW, DOES THAT ZONING ALLOW 40 UNITS PER ACRE BY RIGHT.
SO THE CURRENT ZONING IS OFFICE PROFESSIONAL, AND THAT'S JUST A RE UH, REMNANTS OF WHAT WAS THERE, UM, IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE, THE PREVIOUS HOSPITAL.
IS THAT IN THE MIXED USE OVERLAY THOUGH? YES, IT IS IN THE MIXED USE OVERLAY ZONE.
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SO THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO BUILD, UH, HOUSING ON THAT SITE AS OF RIGHT NOW BY, RIGHT.IF THEY BUILT, UM, SOMETHING THAT MET ALL OF THE STANDARDS AND DIDN'T EXCEED ANY THRESHOLDS, UM, THE ONE, UH, IN THE MIXED USE OVERLAY ZONE, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO BUILD UP TO 40 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF STRUCTURE TO THAT SECTION OF THE CODE, BUT ESSENTIALLY THE ANSWER IS YES.
SO LONG AND SHORT OF IT, THIS WILL PROTECT US FROM WAKING UP ONE DAY AND SEEING 40 UNITS PER ACRE BY RIGHT ON THAT PROPERTY WITHOUT, WITHOUT ANY PUBLIC NOTICE, WITHOUT ANYBODY WEIGHING IN.
UM, THIS WILL ALLOW A SPECIFIC, THIS SPECIFIC PLAN WILL MAKE, THEY HAVE TO COME WITH A WHOLE PLAN ON HOW TO DEVELOP THAT PROPERTY.
CURRENTLY IT IS OWNED BY KAISER, NO ONE'S DEVELOPING THAT PLAN.
BUT IF KAISER DECIDES TO SELL IT AND NO ONE KNOWS THAT IT'S SOLD, AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, WE GOT 40 UNITS PER ACRE IN AN AREA THAT MAYBE SHOULDN'T HAVE 40 UNITS PER ACRE, OR THERE WAS NO WAY IN THIS PROTECTS THE PUBLIC, PROTECTS THE PEOPLE ON TRE LOMIS PROTECTS THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET FROM WAKING UP ONE DAY AND SAYING, HEY, I WASN'T EVEN NOTIFIED ABOUT IT.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST, UH, I WOULD SAY PLUS TO THIS, IS THAT THIS WILL ALL GO IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC, WHICH I APPRECIATE.
SO MY TAKEAWAY HERE IS OBVIOUSLY I CAN SEE 40 UNITS PER ACRE AS BEING BENEFICIAL TO THE CITY BECAUSE IT PAYS FOR MORE PROPERTY TAXES.
SO MY TAKEAWAY IS HEARING THEM SAY, OR HEARING YOU SAY THAT YOU WANT TO SEE THAT DONE COMPREHENSIVELY AND COORDINATED PER ACRE AS A WHOLE AND NOT NECESSARILY 25 ACRES WORTH OF 40 UNITS.
AND THEY MAY NOT WANT ANY RESIDENTIAL THERE, IT MAY BE MORE SUITED FOR COMMERCIAL.
IT MAY BE A, YOU KNOW, AND SO, BUT EITHER WAY, THAT'S WHERE THE PUBLIC GETS TO WEIGH IN.
ALL MY QUERIES HAVE BEEN ANSWERED.
WELL, UH, ANY OTHER, UH, QUESTIONS FOR, WELL, AT THIS TIME WE HAVE NO ONE ELSE FOR PUBLIC HEARING, SO WHY DON'T WE FIRST CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MEROSE, SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VALEZ, PLEASE VOTE.
I MOVE TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION IN ORDER RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF THE PROPOSED SEQ EXEMPTION OF SPECIFIC PLAN NUMBER 2022 DASH FOUR, SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
SO SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER PAUL RUDD, PLEASE VOTE AND MOTION CARRIES BY.
I DON'T KNOW IF I REALLY WANNA SEE THAT PLACE VACANT FOR ANOTHER 15 YEARS, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE NICE TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN THERE.
WELL, IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE TO HAVE A HOSPITAL.
I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING FROM GROSSMONT TILL EL CENTRO.
I MEAN, I KNOW KAISER IS REALLY SPECIFIC, YOU KNOW, BUT STILL, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY IS HARD ON EAST.
I MEAN, WORK AS SOMEONE WHO WORKS IN A HOSPITAL, IT'S REALLY HARD, YOU KNOW, WITH PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN EAST COUNTY BEING ABLE TO GET EMERGENCY CARE AND URGENT CARE.
IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN IN GROSSMONT HOSPITAL'S EMERGENCY ROOM, TAKE A LUNCH, TAKE A DINNER, TAKE A BLANKET.
LAST TIME I WENT TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM, I DROPPED MY WIFE OFF AND I WAITED FOR FOUR HOURS OUTSIDE.
AND IT'S ONLY GONNA WORSE THIS RESPIRATORY SEASON.
AND MR. CHAIRMAN, IF I MAY, UM, THIS ITEM WAS A JOINT NOTICE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL ON, UH, NEXT TUESDAY.
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ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION, STAFF, WE HAVE THE, THE CALENDAR FOR 2023.UM, SO THIS IS, UH, THE 2023, UH, PROPOSED PLANNING COMMISSION CALENDAR.
UM, AND IT FOLLOWS, UH, THE TYPICAL FORMAT THAT WE'VE USED IN PREVIOUS YEARS.
UM, YOU KNOW, DUE TO, UM, THE HOLIDAYS, UH, WE HAVE NOT, WE PROPOSED ONE MEETING IN JANUARY ON THE 17TH.
UH, BUT THE REMAINDER OF THE DATES ARE, ARE TYPICAL FOR OUR RECENT, UM, SCHEDULING.
SO, UH, I BELIEVE WE WOULD JUST ASK FOR A, UH, MOTION, UH, TO APPROVE THE CALENDAR IF THE PLANNING COMMISSION SEES THAT THESE DATES ARE ACCEPTABLE.
WAS THAT YOU THAT MADE THE MOTION? OKAY.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER P*****K ROUTE.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CIRCLE.
DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER STAFF COM
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UH, COMMUNICATION, NO ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMUNICATIONS.HOW ABOUT YOU COMMISSIONERS? I TURNED IN MY APPLICATION.
WELL THEN I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER MORROW.
SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SERCO.
MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.