Oct 25, 2022 City Council Meeting 3pm

THAT BRINGS US THE CONSENT ITEMS, CONSENT ITEMS, OR ROUTINE MATTERS ENACTED BY ONE MOTION ACCORDING TO THE RECOMMENDATION LISTED BELOW WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, A COUNCIL MEMBER OR PERSON IN ATTENDANCE MAY REQUEST DISCUSSION OF A CONSENT ITEM AT THIS TIME.

THE CITY CLERK POSTED ORDERS OF ADJOURNMENT OF THE OCTOBER 11TH, 2022 MEETING AND THE AGENDA OF THE OCTOBER 25TH, 2022 MEETING IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW CITY COUNCIL ON HOUSING AUTHORITY POLICY.

WE HAVE NO PRESENTATIONS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANY AGENDA CHANGES? UH, NO, SIR.

COUNSEL,

[7. CONSENT ITEMS: Consent Items are routine matters enacted by one motion according to the RECOMMENDATION listed below. With the concurrence of the City Council, a Council Member or person in attendance may request discussion of a Consent Item at this time.]

COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO YOU WISH TO PULL ANY CONSENT ITEMS? STAFF? NO, SIR.

ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO SPEAKER CARDS, SIR.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS THEN.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

THAT BRINGS US TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

[ PUBLIC COMMENT: At this time, any person may address a matter within the jurisdiction of the City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the El Cajon Redevelopment Agency that is not on the Agenda. Comments relating to items on today’s docket are to be taken at the time the item is heard. State law prohibits discussion or action on items not on the Agenda; however, Council, Authority and Agency Members may briefly respond to statements or questions. An item may be placed on a future Agenda.]

AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS A MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL, HOUSING AUTHORITY, SUCCESS, OR AGENCY TO THE ALCOHOL REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.

STATE LAW PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

HOWEVER, CITY COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND TO STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS, AND AN ITEM MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, SIR.

WE DO.

WE HAVE TWO.

THE FIRST ONE IS YANIS JACOB.

UH, OKAY.

I BELIEVE MR. JACOB LEFT THE CHAMBER.

THE SECOND SPEAKER, UH, IS STEVEN SLOSKY.

IF MR. JACOB COMES BACK SOMETIME DURING THE MEETING, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND REOPEN PUBLIC COMMENT.

LET HIM SPEAK HIS PIECE.

HELLO, SIR.

HOW ARE YOU? GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL AND EL CAJON CITIZENS.

I AM LAY BROTHER STEVEN GERARD, SID LUKI.

UH, I AM DELIGHTED TO LET ALL OF YOU KNOW THAT I ACTUALLY TRAVEL THE UNITED STATES, UH, SPEAKING ON THE FUTURE POSSIBILITY OF CITIES, ESPECIALLY WITH CITIES, WITH CHARTERS SUCH AS YOUR CITY OF MAYOR WELLS, TO MOVE IN THE NEW DIRECTION OF ESTABLISHING PERSONHOOD, IT WOULD REQUIRE A PART, A MODIFICATION TO YOUR CITY CHARTER.

UH, YOU HAVE THE SPECIAL ADVANTAGE IN YOUR CITY BECAUSE YOU HAVE A CHARTER.

A CITIES LIKE SAN CLEMENTE AND TEMECULA WHO ALREADY DESIRE TO MOVE IN THIS NEW, UH, PERSONHOOD DIRECTION IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, DO NOT HAVE A CITY CHARTER.

SO I'M ALREADY TALKING TO THEM ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR POSSIBILITY.

WE DO HAVE THIS LANGUAGE IN THE CITY CHART.

UH, WE DO HAVE THIS LANGUAGE BECAUSE MY HOMETOWN OF LORAINE, OHIO RECENTLY ATTEMPTED TO BECOME A CHARTER CITY, AND DURING THAT WHOLE PROCESS, I ANALYZED WHERE THE CITY COULD ACTUALLY INTRODUCE PERSONHOOD.

IT HAPPENS TO BE IN THE PREAMBLE COVENANT LANGUAGE OF YOUR CITY CHARTER.

I BELIEVE CALIFORNIA AND OHIO ARE BOTH HOMESTEAD STEAD STATES, SO THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE STATES.

I'M GOING TO LEAVE ALL OF YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS IN BELOVED ME, A BIBLE BOOKMARK, AND IT'LL HAVE MY INFORMATION ON IT.

AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET TOGETHER WITH ME TO HAVE A LITTLE ROUND TABLE, POSSIBLY WITH YOUR CITY MAYOR, UH, POSSIBLY WITH SOME CHURCH LEADERS AND POSSIBLY WITH YOUR LEGAL COUNSEL, I WOULD BE DELIGHTED TO GIVE YOU AN INITIAL, UH, EDUCATION SERIES ON THIS NEW POSSIBILITY OF PERSONHOOD.

UH, TODAY, I, UH, WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE HELPED TO ESTABLISH 40 DAYS FOR LIFE.

YOU HAVE THAT GOING ON IN YOUR VERY CITY RIGHT NOW.

AND, UH,

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I HELPED TO ESTABLISH 40 DAYS FOR LIFE IN THE QUEEN CITY OF CINCINNATI.

I DID MY MASTER'S MBA AT XAVIER UNIVERSITY IN CINCINNATI.

IF YOU DELIGHTFULLY, DELIGHTFULLY WANNA KNOW, I DID MY UNDERGRAD ENGINEERING AT PURDUE UNIVERSITY, AND I'M ALSO HONORABLY, UH, SERVED AS AN ENLISTED AND AN OFFICER IN THE UNITED STATES NAVY.

SO I BELIEVE THAT WHAT I HAVE TO SHARE IS VERY IMPORTANT.

I BELIEVE YOU'LL FIND THAT IT MERITS CONSTITUTIONALITY.

ALSO, WHENEVER CITIES DESIRE TO MOVE IN THE NEW DIRECTION, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE THE STAND THAT WHEN YOU MOVE IN THE NEW DIRECTION, IT DOES, UH, PASS THE CONSTITUTIONALITY TEST, SO TO SPEAK.

SO, LET ME JUST CLOSE WITH THE JOY OF THE SPIRIT OF GOD, IT'S LOVE FOR HIS CREATION.

HOPE TO HEAR FROM ALL OF YOU SOON.

GOD BLESS YOU.

PERFECT TIMING.

LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

DID OUR OTHER SPEAKER COME BACK? NO OTHER SPEAKER, SIR.

WE HAVE ONE ITEM TO CONSIDER.

WE ARE NOW PUBLIC HEARING NOW'S, NOW'S THE TIME.

[6. Authorizing an Application for, and receipt of, Permanent Local Housing Allocation Grant from the State of California Department of Housing and Community Development RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council adopts the next Resolution, in order, to: Approve the proposed housing and homeless services spending plan; Authorize the City Manager, or such person designated by the City Manager, to accept the State of California Department of Housing and Community Development ("HCD") Permanent Local Housing Allocation Grant Funds ("PLHA"); and Accept, appropriate and expend the State of California Permanent Local Housing Allocation Grant Funds in the amount of $2,614,790.45 contingent upon award. ]

ITEM SIX IS, UH, REGARDING THE PERMANENT LOCAL HOUSING ALLOCATION GRANT.

AND I SEE STAFF AS EAGER TO TELL US ABOUT ALL THIS VERY EAGLE EAGER.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M JOSE DORADO WITH THE HOUSING DIVISION AND TODAY'S PRESENTATION, I'LL PROVIDE A SUMMARY OF THE PROPOSED ACTIONS AND SEEK CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL OF THE PERMANENT LOCAL HOUSING ALLOCATION SPENDING PLAN.

JUST ONE SECOND.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE, UH, TAKE YOUR TIME.

IT'S PRESENTATION ON THE SCREEN.

CONSISTENT WITH PHA PROGRAM REQUIREMENTS.

TO BEGIN WITH, UM, PHA FUNDING, ALSO KNOWN AS S SP TWO THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN SEPTEMBER OF 2017.

THIS WAS WHEN THE CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE APPROVED THE BUILDING HOMES AND JOBS ACT, WHICH ESTABLISHED A $75 RECORDING FEE ON REAL ESTATE TRANSACTIONS.

S SP TWO FUNDING, ALSO KNOWN AS PHA, PROVIDES LOCAL GOVERNMENTS WITH FUNDING FOR ELIGIBLE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS ACTIVITIES.

UNDER PHA FUNDING IS PROVIDED THROUGH FORMULA GRANTS TO ENTITLEMENT JURISDICTIONS.

THIS IS BASED ON THE FORMULA PRESCRIBED UNDER FEDERAL LAW FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM.

OVER A FIVE YEAR FUNDING PERIOD, THE FIVE YEAR ESTIMATE IS $3.87 MILLION.

WITH CITY SNAP PROPOSING THE FOLLOWING TWO ELIGIBLE USES, 65% OF THE FUNDING WILL BE EARMARKED FOR HOMELESS SERVICES.

30% OF THE FUNDING WILL BE EARMARKED TO INCENTIVIZE A PRODUCTION OF ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

PER AB 6 71, THE CITY'S REQUIRED TO CREATE A PROGRAM THAT INCENTIVIZES THE CREATION OF ADUS.

THE REMAINING 5% CAN BE USED FOR ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS TO OVERSEE PHA FUNDING AND ADMINISTER THE TWO PROPOSED PROGRAMS. SO THE FIRST ELIGIBLE ACTIVITY THAT 60 STEP IS RECOMMENDING IS A HOMELESS SERVICES PROGRAM.

THE HOMELESS SERVICES PROGRAM FUNDING WILL PROVIDE, UM, FOR THE FOLLOWING ELIGIBLE ACTIVITIES, CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES, HOUSING NAVIGATION, RAPID REHOUSING, AND EMERGENCY SHELTER.

SO AS OUR, UM, CDBG CORONAVIRUS RELIEF FUNDS START WINDING DOWN, NOW THESE PHA FUNDS WILL BE ABLE TO, UM, WILL BE AVAILABLE TO INCREASE OR RETAIN SERVICE LEVELS.

SO THE SECOND PROPOSED PROGRAM INCLUDES, UM, INCENTIVIZING THE PRODUCTION OF ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.

UM, AS MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, DUE TO AB 6 71 AND HOUSING ELEMENT REQUIREMENTS, THIS CITY IS NOT REQUIRED TO DEVELOP A PROGRAM THAT INCENTIVIZES A PRODUCTION OF AUS.

THE PROGRAM DESIGN DESIGN INCLUDES PROVIDING UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN THE FORM OF A LOW INTEREST DEFERRED LOAN.

INCOME LIMITS FOR THE OCCUPANT OF THE ADU CANNOT EXCEED 150% OF THE EVERY MILLION INCOME AT AN AFFORDABLE RENT LEVEL.

NO PAYMENTS ARE DUE UNTIL THE END OF THE LOAN PERIOD THAT COULD RANGE FROM 15 TO 30 YEARS.

THE LOAN TERM WILL BE SELECTED BY THE APPLICANT.

SO THIS SLIDE INCLUDES THE PROPOSED RENT AND INCOME LIMITS.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF A PROPERTY OWNER WISHES

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TO CONSTRUCT A ONE BEDROOM AED, THE RENT FOR THE UNIT COULD BE BASED ON LOCAL MARKET CONDITIONS.

HOWEVER, THE MAXIMUM RENTS AND INCOME LIMITS MAY NOT EXCEED THE STATE PUBLISHED LIMITS AT THE TIME.

THE EDU IS OCCUPIED FOR 22 20 22.

THE MAXIMUM RENT, UM, IS 32 0 6 FOR A ONE BEDROOM.

AND THESE, UM, LIMITS CHANGE ANNUALLY.

USUALLY THEY GO UP, UM, BY A FORMULA, BUT THEY'RE, THEY INCREASE ANNUALLY.

NEXT SLIDE.

SO, IN SUMMARY, STAFF RECOMMENDS COUNCIL APPROVED THE PHA PLAN FOR THE PROPOSED HOMELESS SERVICES IN ADU PROGRAMS. STAFF ALSO RECOMMENDS COUNCIL ACCEPTS AND APPROPRIATES THE 2019 TO 2021 ALLOCATIONS OF 2,614,000, SEVEN $90 AND 45 CENTS.

WE ASK COUNSEL TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION, UM, BASED ON ATDS APPROVED TEMPLATE.

UM, AND THEN STAFF WILL SUBMIT THE PHA PLAN, ATD FOR THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL.

THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION AND HOUSING STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

STEVE, ONE OF YOUR FIRST SLIDES SAYS THAT THE FIVE YEAR SPENDING PLAN WAS 3.87 MILLION.

YES.

BUT FOR FIVE YEARS, YES.

WERE ASKED TO APPROVE 2.6 MILLION FOR THREE YEARS.

CAN I ASSUME THE DIFFERENCES FOR YEARS FOUR AND FIVE? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? WE'RE NOT PLANNING ON ADDING ANY NEW SERVICES.

IT'S ALL EXISTING SERVICES FOR HOMELESS THAT WE WERE USING THROUGH CDBG IS NOW GONNA BE FUNDED BY THE P L H A? CORRECT? WE'RE GONNA DO THE EXISTING SERVICES, BUT WE MAY SPAN SOME OF THESE SERVICES SUCH AS RAPID REHOUSING IT.

I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE RENTAL UNIT AND THE INCOME.

SO CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT ADU? THERE YOU GO.

SO THE HOUSEHOLD SIZE, IS THAT FOR THE ADU OR THE HOUSEHOLD SIZE OF THE, OF THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY? THOSE ARE TWO DIFFERENT CHARTS.

SO THE CHART ON THE LEFT JUST GIVES OCCUPANT SIZE FOR THE INCOME LIMITS.

AND THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS THE UNIT.

SO THERE'S NO, YOU KNOW, IN A STUDIO IT COULD BE TWO PERSONS AND A ONE BEDROOM.

IT COULD BE THREE PERSONS AND A TWO BEDROOM.

IT COULD BE FOUR PERSONS.

ARE THESE SUPPOSED TO BE AFFORDABLE? THESE ARE MAXIMUMS. SO, BUT I, I, I MEAN, I'M, I DON'T MEAN TO, I DON'T MEAN TO INTERRUPT, BUT I'M JUST KI WE'RE TALKING A STUDIO FOR 2,800 A MONTH.

THESE ARE MA MAXIMUMS. I, SO AND THESE ARE, THESE ARE HUD, THESE ARE HUD PUBLIC.

THESE AREN'T OUR NUMBERS.

RIGHT.

THIS IS WHAT HUD SAYS.

YOU HAVE TO, THAT'S THE MAX THAT INDIVIDUAL COULD CHARGE THESE FOLKS.

SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN WHAT THEY HAVE TO CHARGE, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND WE AT LEAST STAY WITH THE HUD LEVEL SO WE'RE NOT VARYING FROM WHAT THEIR REGULATIONS ARE.

OKAY, I GET THAT.

BUT WHO'S GONNA BE ABLE TO AFFORD THAT IF YOU C WELL, IT'LL BE ALSO BE BASED ON MARKET RATE.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY RENT IT FOR 28 0 5, THEY PROBABLY WON'T GET ANY TENANTS AT THAT LEVEL.

THESE ARE JUST ESTABLISHED MAXIMUMS. OKAY.

BUT THE MARKET IS GONNA BEAR WHAT THE RENT THAT SOMEBODY IS WILLING TO PAY.

AND THIS WAS ALL ESTABLISHED, ESTABLISHED AT THE STATE LEVEL? YES.

THESE LIMITS WERE STAY ESTABLISHED LIMITS.

I GOT ONE MORE.

TO BE CLEAR, ANY RESIDENT IN EL CAJON CAN APPLY FOR THIS LOAN UP TO A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AT 3%.

ANY RESIDENT, ANY RESIDENT PROPERTY OWNER SHOULD SAY, AS LONG AS THEY HAVE A PROPERTY THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE AN ADU, THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE THE ADU.

SO THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE ANY PROPERTY OWNER THAT HAS ROOM CAN DO THIS.

YES.

THE CHART WE'RE LOOKING AT IS FOR THOSE INSIDE THE ADU, THOSE INSIDE THE ADU CANNOT MAKE MORE THAN THIS MUCH AN INCOME AS SHOWN.

AND THE PROPERTY OWNER CANNOT CHARGE MORE THAN THE AMOUNT RENT SHOWN.

CORRECT.

CAN CHARGE LESS.

THEY CAN CHARGE LESS.

THAT'S THE MARKET.

JUST BE CLEAR.

ARE THERE ANY INCOME LIMITS TO THE PROPERTY OWNER TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM? NOT IN THIS PROGRAM.

THERE IS A STATE PROGRAM THAT PROVIDES 40,000 AS A GRANT INCENTIVE, BUT THAT HAS LIMITS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER.

SO SOMEBODY WANTED TO LEVERAGE OUR MONEY.

WHAT THE STATE MONEY, THEN IT'LL BE THE MOST RESTRICTED ONE.

WHAT WAS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT HERE AGAIN? I, WELL, OURS IS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? SO THAT'S A WHAT A GREAT PROGRAM.

IT'S BETWEEN, THE TERM IS BETWEEN FIVE YEARS AND 30 YEARS, AND IT'S DEFERRED.

QUESTION ON THE, UH, PAYMENT TERMS. IS THAT A, SO THEY HAVE A OPTION BETWEEN 15 YEAR AND 30 YEAR.

AND THEN IS IT JUST INTEREST ONLY? IS IT AMORTIZED OR

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SO THERE'S NO PAYMENTS.

SO THE, THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS THAT AS WE'RE GETTING RENTS, THEY'RE SETTING SET AMOUNTS IN ORDER TO REPAY BACK THE LOAN.

OH, THAT MAKES SENSE.

ONCE THE LOAN'S REPAID, WE, WE PROVIDE THOSE FUNDS TO ANOTHER PERSON WHO WANTS TO BUILD AN ADU, BUT THEY REPAY IT AT THE VERY END.

AT THE VERY END.

SO THEY GET LIKE A BALLOON PAYMENT.

CORRECT.

BUT THEY SET THE TERMS. SO IF THEY WANT FIVE YEARS MORE ACCELERATED, THEN THEY CAN CHOOSE FIVE TERM OR FIVE YEARS THAT THEY WANT 30 YEARS, THEN THEY CAN SELECT 30 YEARS.

AND IF THEY CHOOSE TO, CAN THEY PAY TOWARDS THAT PRINCIPLE? CORRECT.

THEY CAN MAKE PAYMENTS, BUT WE ADVISE PEOPLE NOT TO MAKE PAYMENTS TO RATHER HAVE THAT IN A INTEREST BEARING ACCOUNT.

I SEE.

I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

SO YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH HERO LOANS? YES.

IS THIS LIKE A HERO LOAN IN THE SENSE THAT IF THAT PERSON WERE TO GO TO REFINANCE THE PROPERTY, THAT THIS OTHER EXTRA AMOUNT ON THE MORTGAGE WOULD COUNT AS, UH, THE AMOUNT THAT THEY HAVE BORROWED? IT'S NOT LIKE A HERO LOAN.

THIS, THE HERO LOAN IS KIND OF BASED ON THEIR EQUITY IN THE PROPERTY.

THIS, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR THEM TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THAT AMOUNT OF EQUITY THAT THE HERO LOAN REQUIRES, IT JUST REQUIRES THEM TO BE ABLE TO, UM, HAVE A PROPERTY THAT CAN BUILD ADU ON IT.

I GET, SO MY QUESTION IS, SAY I HAVE A HOUSE WITH $600,000 MORTGAGE.

I BORROW ANOTHER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS AGAINST THIS FOR THE ADU.

IF I GO TO REFINANCE THAT PROPERTY WILL, WILL, NOW THE AMOUNT THAT I'M REFINANCING BE BASED UPON 700,000 OR 600,000? WELL, IT DEPENDS.

RIGHT.

SO IF YOU'RE GONNA AT, IF YOU'RE GONNA REPAY OUR LOAN, THEN YOU, YOU'RE GONNA PAY BACK, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST MORTGAGE AND THEN OUR SECOND MORTGAGE.

SO YOU HAVE TO REPAY, REPAY IT BACK A LEISURE REFINANCING FOR REASON TERM.

OF COURSE.

I, UH, I WAS JUST, UM, I, I THINK THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION.

RIGHT.

ALRIGHT, I APPRECIATE IT.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? UH, SAYING YOU COLLATERALIZE THE LOAN AGAINST THE, THE OWNER'S PRINCIPLE RESIDENCE? YES.

WITH A LIEN? YES.

SO THAT THERE'LL BE LOAN INSTRUMENT.

SO THAT, THANK YOU.

THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION BETTER? YEAH.

THERE'LL BE A LOAN INSTRUMENT TO ENSURE THE AFFORDABILITY FOR THE TERM.

I APPRECIATE YOU COMING.

LET'S SEE IF THERE ARE ANY, UM, SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM.

NO SPEAKER, SIR.

THEN LET ME SEE IF THIS, ALL RIGHT.

I NEED TO MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

WELL, THIS SOUNDS LIKE A GREAT PROJECT.

UM, ANYBODY WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH SOMEONE? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.

I'LL MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

ALL THREE ITEMS. SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

[7. Independent Third-Party Analysis of the City of El Cajon's Budget & Fiscal Practices RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council receives the report (attached). ]

EITHER TRIM THE BUDGET OR CONDUCT SOME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD EQUATE TO 13 MILLION THAT WOULD REQUIRE OR NOT REQUIRE THE NEED FOR, UH, MEASURE P TO P BE PUT ONTO THE BALLOT.

WE HAVE ONE ADMINISTRATIVE REPORT ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

ITEM SEVEN IS THE INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY ANALYSIS OF THE CITY'S BUDGET AND FISCAL PRACTICES.

AND I BELIEVE THAT OUR CITY MANAGER WILL BE TELLING US ABOUT THIS.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, WE HAD HOPED TO HAVE, UH, MR. SCOTT BARNETT, THE AUTHOR OF THE, UM, DOCUMENT, BUT HE HAD AN EMERGENCY AND IS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND.

SO I'LL, I'LL GIVE THE PRESENTATION AND THEN, UM, AT COUNT AT THE END, I'LL, WE'LL TALK ABOUT AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING MR. BARNETT BACK IF, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DO.

SO AS YOU RECALL, ON SEPTEMBER 13TH, THE CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZED THE, THE REQUEST FOR AN INDEPENDENT AND THIRD PARTY ANALYSIS OF THE CITY'S BUDGET AND FISCAL PRACTICES.

UM, AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, THE, THE CITY ISSUED A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS OR, OR QUALIFICATIONS COUNCIL, OR DEPUTY MAYOR MITCHELL AND COUNCIL MEMBER ORTIZ SAT ON A COMMITTEE TO HELP VET THOSE.

IT WAS AN EASY VETTING PROCESS SINCE WE RECEIVED ONE, ONE PROPOSAL, UH, FROM THE SAN DIEGO TAXPAYER ADVOCATE, WHICH IS WHO'S PRESIDENT AND CEO IS SCOTT BARNETT.

HE, UH, TEAMED UP WITH, UH, PROFESSOR EMERITUS FROM SAN DIEGO STATE, WHO TAUGHT IN THE PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION PROGRAM.

AND IF ANYONE'S HAHA, HAD AN MPA FROM SAN DIEGO STATE, THEY PROBABLY HAD HIM AS A CLASS AS A PROFESSOR DEALING WITH BUDGET ISSUES.

SO, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ASKED THE CONSULTANT TO DO IS REALLY TO IDENTIFY, ARE THERE WAYS TO

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AND SO THAT WAS, THAT WAS HIS INITIAL RESPONSIBILITY.

UH, AS A STUDY, WE RECEIVED THE STUDY ON OCTOBER 10TH THAT WAS SENT OUT TO THE CITY COUNCIL, AND THERE'S SIX KEY FINDINGS THAT CAME OUT OF THIS.

IF WE CAN GET THE POWERPOINT UP.

THERE WE GO.

UH, FINDING ONE WAS THAT THE CITY'S FISCAL POLICIES AND BUDGETING PRACTICES ARE PRUDENT, THAT THE CITY HAS EXCELLENT SENIOR MANAGEMENT, ESPECIALLY OVER BUDGETARY, UH, THE CITY SUPPLIES SERVICES IN AN EFFICIENT MANNER.

SO THERE WAS NO GAPING HOLES IN, IN WHICH WE COULD SAVE MONEY THERE.

HE THEN SAID, UH, THERE'S CLEARLY, THERE'S NOT A CLEAR IDENTIFIED BUDGET CUT TO ADD ADDITIONAL SERVICES.

THE ONES THAT THE COUNCIL IDENTIFIED AS PART OF THE MEASURE P SPENDING PLAN WITHOUT CUTTING EXISTING CORE SERVICES.

THERE'S NO SIGNIFICANT NEW OR NEAR TERM REVENUE SOURCES AVAILABLE THROUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND THE ONLY WAY TO PROVIDE THOSE NEW OR AUGMENTED SERVICES AS IDENTIFIED BY THE COUNCIL, WOULD TO BE THROUGH SOME SORT OF A TAXING MEASURE OR REVENUE TAXING REVENUE MEASURE.

UM, THERE WAS A, A LOT OF OTHER FINDINGS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED.

ONE OF THEM WAS FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE, IF THE COUNCIL WERE TO HAVE A MAGIC WAND AND YOU COULD DUPLICATE 25 OF THE CITY'S LARGEST SALES TAX PRODUCING ENTITIES, THAT WOULD ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISH YOUR GOAL OF, OF ABOUT $11 MILLION.

THE THE CHALLENGE IS THAT WE PHYSICALLY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SPACE TO PUT 25 TARGETS AND WALMARTS AND HOME DEPOTS AND TOYOTAS AND HONDAS.

THE OTHER CHALLENGE IS THAT THOSE STORES DON'T EXIST.

IF, IF YOU WERE TO, UH, SORT OF EMBRYO CREATE ANOTHER TARGET OR A HOME DEPOT, IT WOULD JUST CANNIBALIZE THE EXISTING TARGET HOME DEPOT.

SO IT WOULDN'T REALLY DOUBLE YOUR REVENUES BY HAVING TWO TARGETS AS IN DOUBLE YOUR REVENUE.

SO HE SAID OVER THE LONG TERM, THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, ESPECIALLY LOOKING AT EITHER SOME OF OUR UNDERUTILIZED LAND, UH, THE KAISER PROPERTY, MAYBE LOOKING AT OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTNER WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR SOME, SOME JOINT DEVELOPMENT OF MAYBE UNDERUTILIZED LAND BETWEEN THE CITY AND SCHOOL DISTRICT.

SO THOSE WERE SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT HE CAME UP WITH.

UM, HE ALSO SAID THAT OVER A A PERIOD OF TIME WE COULD EXPLORE, UH, MANAGE COMPETITION, MAYBE LOOKING AT HOW WE CONTRACT FOR OUR EMS SERVICES.

HE MENTIONED, UH, IDEAS.

ANOTHER IDEA WAS, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT OF CIVIC, CIVIC CENTER DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A WHILE.

THOSE ARE PRIMARILY SOME OF THE BIG IDEAS THAT HE CAME UP WITH.

HE SAID, UH, VERY APOLOGETICALLY THAT HE COULD NOT BE HERE, BUT IF, IF HE WOULD, IF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE HIM TO COME BACK AND PRESENT ON SOME OF THOSE DIFFERENT IDEAS, HE'D BE WILLING TO DO THAT.

UH, AND WITH THAT, I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE REPORT, OR HE CAN COME BACK AT A LATER DATE OKAY.

AND ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

SO UP TO THE COUNSEL, COUNSEL QUESTIONS, I THINK IT'S PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY AND IT'S KIND OF WHAT WE EXPECTED, BUT IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A, A THIRD PARTY TO VERIFY THAT.

SO IT'S, IT'S HELPFUL.

I DO, I DO THINK IT WAS, UH, THE RIGHT THING TO DO.

SO, UM, ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY, UH, COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? NO COMMENTS, SIR.

UH, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR SOMEBODY'D LIKE TO PROCEED WITH A MOTION? YOU JUST WANT US TO, UH, LET'S JUST ACCEPT THE REPORT.

RECEIVE AND FILE.

YES.

YEAH.

SOMEBODY'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT MOTION SOME SECOND.

ITEM EIGHT IS MY ACTIVITY REPORT.

THERE ARE NO COMMISSIONER REPORTS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

[8. Council Activity Report]

[9. COUNCILMEMBER STEVE GOBLE MTS (Metropolitan Transit System Board); East County Advanced Water Purification Joint Powers Authority Board; Chamber of Commerce – Government Affairs Committee; SANDAG – Board of Directors – Alternate; SANDAG Public Safety Committee – Alternate.]

UH, WE'RE NOW THE REPORTS FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, COUNCIL MEMBER GLOBAL AS REPORTED WITH TWO GREAT PIECES OF GOOD NEWS.

UM, ON THE MTS FRONT, PERHAPS A MONTH AGO, SERGEANT OR SERGEANT CAPTAIN, SORRY, EXCUSE ME, CAPTAIN RANS WEILER WENT OUT TO THE, UH, PROFESSIONAL MEDICAL SUPPLY BUSINESS, WHICH IS AT THE R L UH, MTS STATION.

THEY WERE HAVING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PROBLEMS WITH THE MTS PARKING LOT, WHICH IS CALLED THE A FLAG LOT NARROW LONG DRIVEWAY.

AND THEN IT GOES BEHIND, UH, THE BUILDING SOMEWHAT WITH A LARGE LOT BEHIND IT.

THEY WERE HAVING A LOT OF ILLEGAL ACTIVITY BACK THERE, INCLUDING, UH, A LADY WHO, AND ANOTHER PERSON WHO WERE DOING ILLEGAL ACTIVITY.

AND SHE HAD BROUGHT HER LONGER KIDS IN CLOSE, CLOSE PROXIMITY, WHICH

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WAS ON VIDEO.

SO HE, UH, S RANS, LIER GOT US ALL IN TOUCH.

WE WENT TO MTS, AND MTS TODAY TOLD US THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A, UH, FENCE AND GATE ON THE SLIDING BACK PROPERTY.

SO THAT SAVES A, A LOT OF BAD THINGS FROM HAPPENING BACK THERE.

THAT'S GREAT NEWS.

SO THANK YOU TO CAPTAIN RENS WEILER FOR, UH, BEING A GREAT, UH, PARTNER IN VISITING.

AND, UH, MOVING THAT ALONG ON THE ADVANCED WATER PURIFICATION FRONT, UH, THERE'S EVEN BETTER NEWS WE LOOK LIKE SO FAR.

WE'RE GONNA AVOID COURT WITH THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO.

UH, WE HAD A HEARING SCHEDULED ON OCTOBER 14TH, POSTPONED OCTOBER 28TH, WHICH IS THIS FRIDAY.

WE'RE GONNA PUSH THAT BACK TO NOVEMBER 18TH AT THIS TIME BECAUSE IN TWO DAYS WE GO BEFORE THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO'S ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE WITH ALL OF THE AGREEMENTS THAT WE NEED, WHICH IS GREAT NEWS THAT THE CITY HAS REALLY SPED THIS ALONG.

SO IF IT COMES OUTTA THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMITTEE, UH, WHERE FOR THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SIT AND GOES TO THE FULL COUNCIL ON THE 14TH, THEN WE'RE DONE.

AND WE HAVE ALL THE AGREEMENTS WE NEED AND WE AVOID COURT.

SO WE'VE HAD ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY THAT IS A WIN, UH, FOR THE 500,000 PEOPLE WHO ARE PART OF THIS PROJECT IN EAST COUNTY.

SO, UH, SO FAR SO GOOD WITH THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO, AND WE'RE MOVING ALONG AND THAT'S GREAT NEWS TO BE ABLE TO KNOCK ON EVERYTHING THAT'S WOOD AROUND YOU, AVOID COURT.

AS REPORTED, PHIL AS REPORTED MICHELLE AS RECORDED RECORD TIME TODAY.

[13. Ad Hoc Committee Update on Safe Motels RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council receives the update.]

WE HAVE ONE JOINT COUNCIL MEMBER REPORT FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS GLOBAL AND ORTIZ, WHO WOULD LIKE TO, I'LL FIRE IT OFF.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER ORTIZ AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING MEETING WITH MOTEL OWNERS TO, UH, UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS AND OPERATIONS IN THE, IN THE MOTEL REGARDING THE, UH, VOUCHER PROGRAM FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS.

AND WE'VE LISTENED TO CERTAINLY HOW THEY OPERATE.

I THINK OUR FOCUS ON THIS PARTICULAR COMMITTEE IS LESS ON THE VOUCHER SIDE AND MORE ON THE PUBLIC SAFETY SIDE.

WE KNOW THAT, UH, LAST MONTH, UH, THE POLICE WERE CALLED OUT TO SEVERAL INSTANCES, HAD SEVERAL CALLS FOR SERVICE, AND, UH, UH, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC IS SAFE, THAT THE OTHER RESIDENTS AT THE MOTELS ARE SAFE.

AND SO OUR FOCUS REALLY IS OUR COMMUNITY SAFETY AND, AND PEOPLE SAFETY LESS SO ON THE VOUCHER SIDE.

AND I THINK WE'RE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS.

WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING TOMORROW WITH ANOTHER SET OF OWNERS, MR. ORTIZ.

IT'S OKAY.

HE SAYS WE'RE GOOD.

THANKS FOR DOING THAT HARD WORK.

THAT'S, UH, IMPORTANT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS OR COMMENTS? ANGELA, DO RECEIVE ANY SP CARDS FOR THIS ITEM? NO SPEAKER, SIR.

UM, I GUESS WE NEED A MOTION FOR THIS.

I'M JUST ACCEPT THE REPORT.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REPORT.

PLEASE VOTE.

THERE ARE NO GENERAL INFORMATION ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

[14. First Reading of Ordinances to Adopt by Reference the 2023 California Building Standards Code (Title 24) RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council: Introduces the Ordinances and holds first readings to adopt the 2022 Editions of the California Building Code, the California Electrical Code, the California Mechanical Code, the California Plumbing Code, the California Residential Code, the California Fire Code, the California Green Building Standards Code, the California Historical Building Code, and the California Existing Building Code; Requests the City Clerk to recite the title of each ordinance; and Directs the City Clerk to schedule a public hearing on November 8, 2022]

ITEM 14 IS A FIRST RATING OF ORDINANCES TO ADOPT BY REFERENCE THE 2023 CALIFORNIA BUILDING STANDARDS CODE TITLE 24.

AND I'LL ASK STAFF TO INTRODUCE THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

THIS IS, UM, OUR EVERY THIRD YEAR ADOPTION OF THE, UH, UNIFORM CODES.

WE, WE CALL 'EM UNIFORM CODES OR CALIFORNIA BUILDING CODES.

UM, OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL, MR. SANCHEZ IS HERE AND HE'S PREPARED THE REPORT AS WELL AS ASSISTED US IN PREPARING, UM, ORDINANCES.

AS YOU MAY RECALL, WITH THE ADOPTION BY REFERENCE PROVISIONS, WE TYPICALLY TAKE THE, UM, CONSERVATIVE APPROACH OF INTRODUCING IT WITHOUT A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT WE WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AT OUR NEXT MEETING ON THE EIGHTH THAT'S ALREADY BEEN, UH, ADVERTISED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.

AS SUCH, THESE SIMPLY ADOPT THE 2022 CODES FOR EACH OF THESE.

THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THEM FROM TIME TO TIME IN ORDER TO ADOPT THE CODES.

IF YOU WANNA MAKE EXCEPTIONS, A LOCAL AGENCY CAN DO SO THROUGH THIS ORDINANCE.

SO OUR VARIOUS CHAPTERS, SEVEN OR EIGHT CHAPTERS, I THINK ON, ON THE, UH, UH, AGENDA EACH, NOT EACH OF THEM HAVE EXCEPTIONS, BUT EACH OF THEM ARE ADOPTING THESE UNIFORM CODES.

UM, PLEASE NOTE THAT WE DID HAND OUT A REVISED VERSION OF THE FIRE CODE FIRE, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, JUST RECENTLY INDICATED THEY'D RATHER REMOVE ONE OF THE APPENDICES TO THE UNIFORM OR THE CALIFORNIA FIRE CODE, UM, AND NOT INCLUDED IN OURS.

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SO WE'VE, WE'VE DELETED THAT AND THAT'S APPENDIX D.

SO WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDES APPENDIX D FROM BEING ADOPTED BY REFERENCE.

IT'S ONE THAT, UH, THEY FELT IS NOT ONLY UNNECESSARY BUT COULD BE, UM, COULD HAMPER OPERATIONS A BIT.

SO, UH, MR. SANCHEZ IS HERE.

IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON THE TECHNICAL SIDE OF THINGS AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FORM OF THE ORDINANCE, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

ALL RIGHT, ANGELA, WE HAVE SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS.

NO SPEAKER, SIR.