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MAYBE WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
SO TLA PRESENT, UH, COMMISSIONER RO MOROSE I SEE IS ABSENT COMMISSIONER.
SERCO COMMISSIONER'S POLLOCK RUDE.
I DO SEE AS ABSENT AND COMMISSIONER BIAS PRESENT.
THREE COMMISSIONERS PRESENT TO ABSENT, RIGHT WHERE WE STARTED A LITTLE LATE THIS EVENING BECAUSE WE'RE WAITING FOR THE OTHER TWO COMMISSIONERS TO SHOW UP.
SO NONETHELESS, WE'RE STARTING WITHOUT THEM.
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APPLICANTS AND INDIVIDUALS REPRESENTING GROUPS OF PEOPLE.
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NO ACTION CAN BE TAKEN ON ITEMS BROUGHT FORWARD UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT EXCEPT TO REFER IT TO STAFF OR ADMINISTRATION OR PLACE IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
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IS ITEM IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR.A SINGLE MOTION WILL COVER ALL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
DOES THE COMMISSION WISH TO PULL A CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM FOR DISCUSSION? DOES THE STAFF WISH TO PULL A CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM FOR DISCUSSION? NO, THANK YOU.
SO DO WE HAVE A EMOTION? I MOVED TO ADOPT THE MINUTES.
AND I'LL SECOND THAT ALL RIGHT.
MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SICKO.
SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VARGAS, PLEASE VOTE.
UH, MOTION CARRIED THREE OF THE COMMISSIONERS PRESENT UNANIMOUS.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S ACTION ON ANY ITEM IS FINAL.
UNLESS A PAYMENT IS MADE THE FILING FEE NO LATER THAN 5:00 PM ON TUESDAY, MAY 31ST, 2022.
THE FIRST, THE SECOND ITEM THAT WE
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HAVE IS ST.MADELINE SOPHIE CENTER EXPANSION
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DEMOLITION IS SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING AND CONSTRUCT A NEW MULTIPURPOSE BUILDING AND ASSOCIATED SITE IMPROVEMENTS.IT'S A SEQUEL EXEMPT AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVED STAFF.
JUST ONE MINUTE WHILE WE ADJUST THE PRESENTATION THERE WE GO.
WE HAD TESTED THAT BEFORE THE MEETING, BUT NOW WE HAVE IT ALL SQUARED AWAY.
SO, UH, THANK YOU AGAIN, UH, CHAIR.
UH, THIS IS A PROPOSED EXPANSION OF ST.
MADELINE SOPHIE CENTER, UH, WHICH IS AN EDUCATIONAL AND TRAINING FACILITY THAT SERVES INDIVIDUALS WITH INTELLECTUAL AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.
SO THE PROJECT DOES PROPOSE THE DEMOLITION OF A RESIDENCE AT 2 2 1 1 3 AND 2 1 1 5 EAST MADISON AVENUE, AND THEN THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW MULTIPURPOSE BUILDING, WHICH WILL HAVE OFFICES CLASSROOMS AND MEETING SPACE.
ADDITIONAL SITE IMPROVEMENTS WILL INCLUDE LANDSCAPING ENTRANCE AND EXIT RAMPS TO THE NEW BUILDING AND STORMWATER TREATMENT AREAS.
THE NEW BUILDING IS PROPOSED TO ALLOW THE SENIOR PROGRAM, ADDITIONAL SPACE, WHICH OPERATES IN AN EXISTING BUILDING ON THE SITE.
UH, THE CURRENT ENROLLMENT IS PROPOSED, BUT STAFF IS REQUESTING THAT MAXIMUM ENROLLMENT BE CLARIFIED WITH THIS REQUEST, WHICH I'LL DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION.
SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING SITE, UM, SHOWN IN RED.
UH, IT'S ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF EAST MADISON AVENUE BETWEEN VALLEY RIM ROAD AND CAMELOT PARKWAY.
AND THEN NOW I'VE ADDED THE EXPANSION SITE, WHICH IS 2 1 1 3 AND 2 1 1 5 EAST MADISON AVENUE SHOWN IN YELLOW HERE.
SO THIS IS A VIEW FROM THE STREET LOOKING SOUTH TOWARDS 2 1 1 3 AND 2 1 1 5 EAST MADISON AVENUE.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME AT THE CLOSEST TO THE STREET, AND THEN THERE'S THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT, UH, FURTHER DOWN THE DRIVEWAY, UH, TO THE RIGHT BEHIND THE ACCESSORY OR BEHIND THE EXISTING HOUSE.
SO THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION FOR THE SITE IS LOW, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, AND THE ZONING IS
UM, OVERALL THE EXISTING CAMPUS IS 4.7 ACRES AND THE HALF-ACRE EXPANSION, UH, FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME SITE WILL INCREASE THE OVERALL CAMPUS SIZE TO APPROXIMATELY 5.1 ACRES.
SO FOR THE ENROLLMENT, UH, THE STATE LICENSED ENROLLMENT FOR THE FACILITY IS 400.
UM, THE LAST EXPANSION TO THE CAMPUS ACTUALLY HAPPENED BACK IN 2002 WHEN THEY BUILT THE MULTI-PURPOSE AND ADMINISTRATION BUILDING, UM, FURTHER DOWN EAST MADISON TOWARDS GREENFIELD.
UM, AT THAT TIME, UM, THEY DIDN'T SPECIFY THE MAXIMUM ENROLLMENT AS PART OF THAT, UH, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT, UH, PREVIOUS TO THAT, IT HAD BEEN 200, UM, BUT, UH, THERE WAS, UH, CONTRADICTORY EVIDENCE IN THE FILE FROM 2002.
SO WE KNOW THAT THE SITE HAS BEEN APPROVED AND OPERATING OR APPROVED, UH, WITH A MAXIMUM ENROLLMENT OF 400 BY THE STATE AND HAS BEEN ABLE TO OPERATE IN A COMPATIBLE FASHION SINCE THAT LAST AMENDMENT TO THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT DATING BACK TO 2002.
SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IN CONJUNCTION WITH AMENDMENT IS JUST TO CLARIFY THE MAXIMUM ENROLLMENT AT 400, SO THAT THERE'S NO FURTHER, UM, ISSUES MOVING FORWARD.
SO HERE YOU CAN SEE THE BUILDING PROPOSED BUILDING ELEVATIONS.
SO THE BOTTOM OF THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE ELEVATION THAT WOULD BE VISIBLE FROM EAST MADISON AVENUE.
AND THEN HERE IS THE SECOND SET OF ELEVATIONS.
YOU CAN SEE THE EARTH TONE BROWN AND BEIGE PALETTE WILL BLEND IN WITH THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEN THE OVERALL DESIGN DOES USE VARIATIONS IN WALL PLAINS AND, UM, CHANGES IN, UH, ROOF LINES IN ORDER TO PROVIDE, UM, ADDITIONAL DETAIL.
SO IN ORDER TO APPROVE THE REQUESTED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MUST MAKE THE REQUIRED FINDINGS THAT ARE SHOWN ON THIS SLIDE.
SO STAFF'S ANALYSIS WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT SHOWS THAT THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE ZONING.
IF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS APPROVED, THAT THE PROPOSED BUILDING
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DOES COMPLY WITH THE REQUIRED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, THEN THAT THE USE HAS OPERATED IN A COMPATIBLE FASHION WITH SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND USES FOR OVER 50 YEARS WITH MINIMAL COMPLAINTS AND HAS NOT BEEN DETRIMENTAL TO THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, AND GENERAL WELFARE.AND THEN LASTLY THAT THE PROPOSED EXPANSION WILL SERVE THE PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY BY PROVIDING A MODERN FACILITY THAT MEETS THE EDUCATIONAL NEEDS OF INDIVIDUALS WITH INTELLECTUAL AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.
SO ONE PUBLIC INQUIRY WAS RECEIVED IN RESPONSE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE.
UM, THE CALLER DID ASK FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, BUT ULTIMATELY EXPRESSED NO CONCERNS WITH THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
UH, THE PROJECT DOES QUALIFY FOR A SECRET EXEMPTION UNDER CLASS THREE, CLASS THREE DOES ALLOW NEW CONSTRUCTION OF STRUCTURES CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND ZONING OF UP TO 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND THEN LASTLY, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTIONS IN ORDER APPROVING THE SEQUEL EXEMPTION AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 2020 DASH 0 0 1 1, UH, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS AND THE RESOLUTIONS.
SO THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION.
AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
YES, NOAH, I BELIEVE THE, UH, NEW CONSTRUCTION'S AROUND 6,000 SQUARE FEET, APPROXIMATELY, CORRECT.
UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT UNDER 5,900 SQUARE FEET.
UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
SO FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OUR STAFF, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS AND THESE ARE PROBABLY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT, BUT, UH, WHEN I WAS READING THROUGH THE STAFF NOTES, I DID NOT NOTE THAT THIS WAS A NEWLY ACQUIRED PROPERTY.
I THOUGHT THIS WAS PART OF THE ST MADELINE'S PROPERTY.
AND AS SUCH, I WAS LOOKING AT THAT GARDEN IN THE BACK BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS SEEN THE SIGN FOR SOPHIE'S GARDEN.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS WHERE SOPHIE'S GARDEN WAS LOCATED, BUT MAYBE IT'S SOMEWHERE ELSE RIGHT NOW.
IT WON'T BE THE EXISTING CAMPUS WON'T BE IMPACTED BY THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AMENDMENT.
SO THE ENTIRETY OF THE NEW MULTIPURPOSE BUILDING WOULD BE ON THAT 2, 1, 1, 3 AND 2 11 5 EAST MADISON, A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
SO THIS DOESN'T AFFECT ANY OF THE REST OF THE PROPERTY? CORRECT.
THAT'S YOUR BIAS? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS TO STAFF? NO.
SO, UM, WE'LL OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, LAURA, YES, I HAVE A SPEAKER CARD FROM THE PROJECT APPLICANT OR FROM DEBORAH EMERSON OF SAINT MADELINE SOPHIE CENTER.
PLANNING, COMMISSIONER AND STAFF.
THIS PROJECT SPENT A LONG TIME.
UM, OVER 10 YEARS AGO, UH, THE ORIGINAL OWNER CALLED ME ONE DAY 93 YEARS OLD AND ASKED US IF WE WANTED TO PURCHASE IT.
WE JUST HAVE NOT DEVELOPED IT AT ALL SINCE THAT TIME.
AND NOW WE HAVE RAISED THE FUNDS TO DEVELOP IT, AND WE'RE REALLY IN A NEED FOR A SENIOR PROGRAM.
OUR SENIORS ARE DOWN IN, UH, UH, INADEQUATE BUILDING.
THE BATHROOMS ARE NOT IN THE BUILDING AND JUST A LOT OF ACCESSIBILITY PROBLEMS THERE TOO.
SO THIS WILL GIVE THEM THEIR OWN SPACE.
WE SERVE SENIORS FROM 55 TO 85 YEARS OLD WITH DISABILITIES.
SO, UH, THIS IS A REALLY SPECIAL PROJECT.
SO WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
AND I JUST WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR HELPING US THROUGH THIS AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT HAS HELPED US RAISE THE FUNDS TO DO THE BUILDING.
ANY QUESTIONS I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.
MS. EMERSON FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE SECRETARY, COULD YOU SPELL AMERSON FOR US? SO SORRY.
UM, I LIKED THE WAY THE BUILDING LOOKS, UH, WHO DID THE DESIGN FOR THEM? UM, OUR ARCHITECTS RIGHT HERE, MICHAEL MERYL'S RIGHT HERE.
AND THE PROPERTY WAS A DIFFICULT PROPERTY.
IF YOU KNOW HOW IT COMES DOWN FROM MADISON LOWERED THAN THE STREET.
SO WE PUT THE PATIO ON THE SIDE, SO OUR SENIORS CAN GO OUT ON THE PATIO TOO.
AND THEN THE FRONT ENTRANCE IS TOWARDS OUR GARDEN.
SO THERE'LL BE, UM, I THINK THAT WAS ANOTHER PIECE OF THE PLAN THAT WAS MORE DIFFICULT, WAS GETTING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD ENOUGH ROOM TO DO THE DRIVEWAY AND PEOPLE COMING BACK OUT, BUT IT IS ATTACHED TO THE GARDEN.
SO THERE'LL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE GARDEN ALSO.
THAT'S GOOD FELLOW COLLECTORS.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MS. SANDERSON OUT OF CURIOSITY AND THIS MAYBE NOT HAVE ANY BEARING ON THE DECISION HERE, BUT, UH, IN THE SATELLITE IMAGE, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S VINEYARDS OR SOME KIND OF GARDEN AT THE BACK END OF PROPERTY.
WE DID HAVE A VAN UNDER, I THINK WE GOT ONE CASE, UH, WHAT, FOUR CASES OF WINE OUT OF IT, AND IT'S STILL AGING
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AND WE HAD TROUBLE WITH THE VINES, YOU KNOW, VINES, IF YOU DON'T TREAT THEM RIGHT, DON'T GROW AS THEY SHOULD.SO WE DID GET A ONE BATCH OF, UM, UM, WINE AND I THINK WE DID JELLY ONE YEAR.
WE MAKE MARMALADE, THINGS LIKE THAT FROM THE THINGS THAT WE GROW ON THE CAMPUS.
I DID NOTE THAT YOU'RE A RAMP FROM THE BACKEND DOES A COUPLE OF EXTRA TURNS TO MAKE IT RIGHT? NO.
I THINK THIS ALSO THAT ROAD WAS ONE OF OUR ORIGINAL CAUSE OUR ADDRESS IS 2 1, 1 9, AND THAT'S WHERE ALL OUR UTILITIES CAME TO.
I LEARNED THAT THE HARD WAY UP AT THE TOP OF THE GARDEN.
SO YEAH, SO I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS ABOUT 12, 13 OR 14, I USED TO MAKE WINE WITH MY FATHER AND I WAS STOMPING ON THE GRADES CAUSE WE DIDN'T GET A, UH, A CRUSHER THAT YEAR WITH THE BOOTS.
AND AS THE JUICE CAME OUT, I USED TO DRINK A LITTLE BIT AND I WAS GETTING A LITTLE TIPSY AND I'M GOING REALLY THIS WINE FERMENTS VERY QUICKLY.
SO AS THE WINE IS TO KEEP THE SENIORS HAPPY.
NO IT'S TO KEEP US HAPPY, BUT I THINK, UH, ALCOHOLISM EAST COUNTY HAS SO MANY GREAT VINEYARDS HERE LOCALLY.
WE WERE TRYING TO DO A BACKYARD VINEYARD AT THE TIME.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME.
AND THE OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT AS SOMEONE WHO WORKS WITH, UH, DISABLED CHILDREN, UM, I KNOW THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ENRICHMENT PROGRAMS AND, AND WE'VE DONE SO WELL WITH OUR MEDICAL CARE THAT THESE CHILDREN DO GROW UP TO BE ADULTS AND THEN GO ON TO BE SENIORS AND SOMETIMES GET FORGOTTEN.
SO, UM, I THINK IT'S A MA IT'S AWESOME THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT, UH, THE SENIORS WILL HAVE A SPACE OF THEIR OWN BECAUSE IT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT A 10 YEAR OLD DISABLED CHILD IS GOING TO NEED BECAUSE THERE'S AGING.
JUST THE STUFF THAT HAPPENS TO ALL OF US, EVEN WITH AGING ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE.
SO, AND MOBILITY, HUGE THING, UM, ST.
MELLONS HAS BEEN THERE SINCE 65 IN THAT AREA.
AND WE STILL HAVE PROBABLY ABOUT A DOZEN OF OUR STUDENTS WERE THERE AS CHILDREN.
SO THE PROPERTY HAS DEVELOPED AND IT HAS, YOU KNOW, KEEP GROWING WITH WHAT WE NEED TO DO FOR THAT POPULATION.
AND WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST SENIOR PROGRAMS IN THE COUNTY FOR PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL AND DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES.
CAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO FIND YES, PROGRAMS LIKE THAT.
SO IT'S BE NICE TO HAVE SOMETHING WHERE, UM, IT'S BEEN EXPANDED FOR THAT.
I HAVE MY SENIOR MANAGER HERE, MARK FISHER AND OUR GENERAL MANAGER, TOM CARR.
AND MY BOARD PRESIDENT JUDY MANTLE AND GINGER PATUSA, MY ASSISTANT LAURA PURDUM.
SO I BETTER SAY THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DON'T THINK SO.
WE HAVE A SECOND SPEAKER CARD.
MR. MICHAEL MERRILL IS THE PROJECT ARCHITECT.
HE IS HERE IN SUPPORT AND IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, BUT TO SIT, HE DOES NOT NEED TO SPEAK.
UH, MR. MERRILL, YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SEE IF THE COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? GIVE US YOUR NAME AND SPELLING YOUR LAST NAME PLEASE.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL MERRILL, M E R R I L L.
AND I'M OBVIOUSLY HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT.
UM, I ALSO BELIEVE PERSONALLY IN THE CHARITABLE PURPOSE OF THE FOUNDATION AND SUPPORT IT MYSELF.
AND SO, UM, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURE.
THANK YOU, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
WELL, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MAYBE SOME OF THE, UM, ADA TYPE THINGS THAT YOU, UH, INCORPORATED IN TO ENTER THE BUILDING AND THEN MAYBE WITHIN THE BUILDING AS WELL.
WELL, THE BUILDING PRESENTS A EXTREME CHALLENGE AS FAR AS THE GRADES GO.
SO THE BUILDING IS KIND OF PADDED OUT BETWEEN THE, THE STREET AND THE LOWER PORTION.
SO THERE'S A RAMP THAT SERVES, UH, PEOPLE COMING UP THE SIDE.
UH, IT'S ALL ONE STORY, ALL, NO LEVEL CHANGES.
SO THERE'S NO ELEVATORS OR STAIRS REQUIRED.
THE BATHROOMS ARE ALL FULLY COMPLIANT.
UH, AND UH, ALL THE SPACES ARE FULLY ADA ACCESSIBLE.
ALL THE COUNTERTOPS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S WAS A BILL WHEN THE BUILD-OUT HAPPENS.
I'M SURE THE PROVISIONS WILL BE MADE FOR, UH, STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES TO, FOR COUNTERTOPS HEIGHTS.
NOT A QUESTION, BUT I COMPLIMENT YOU ON YOUR DESIGN, ESPECIALLY WITH THAT SLOPE AT THE FRONT END OF THE PROPERTY.
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IT LOOKS, UH, IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL.I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK YOUR STAFF WHO ARE, UH, VERY HELPFUL AND VERY EXPEDITIOUS COMPARED TO A LOT OF THE OTHER CITIES I WORK IN.
LAURA, ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? NO, THAT'S THE LAST ONE.
HEY, WELL, I MOVED TO CLOSE UP PUBLIC HEARING.
MOTION MAY HAVE A COMMISSIONER.
SO TLA SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.
MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY THOSE COMMISSIONERS PRESENT.
LET'S UM, LET'S SAY YOU WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY, I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE A BEAUTIFUL PROJECT AND THEY'VE HAD THE PROPERTY FOR A LONG TIME.
I DID FORGET TO ASK IF ANYONE'S BEEN LIVING IN THE PROPERTY SINCE IT WAS PURCHASED IN 93 RENTER.
I KNOW THERE'S SUCH A BIG CONCERN AND ALL THIS TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOUSING AND HOUSING SHORTAGES.
AND I HONESTLY DON'T BELIEVE THAT LOSING TWO HOMES IS GOING TO MAKE SOME DRAMATIC DIFFERENCE IN OUR HOUSING, YOU KNOW, GO HOME.
BUT CERTAINLY THIS NEW BUILDING IS GOING TO HAVE A MAJOR POSITIVE IMPACT IN THE LIVES OF, OF THESE PEOPLE THAT, THAT REALLY, UM, HAVE NEEDED SOMETHING LIKE THIS FOR A LONG TIME.
SO I JUST WANTED, I THINK I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I SAID THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY MEETINGS ABOUT, WELL, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE DENSITY AND HOW ARE WE COMING UP WITH IT WITH, UH, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THINGS.
SO, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A GREAT IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A TRADE OFF, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT, UM, USE OF THE SPACE.
UH, AND THE MISSION OF ST MADELINE'S IS VERY FOCUSED ON AN AREA THAT NOT MANY PEOPLE FOCUS ON.
AND, UH, IT'S A VERY WELL-DESIGNED BUILDING.
WELL, I AGREE EVERYTHING THAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE STATED, AND I THINK YOU'RE DOING GOOD WORK AND I THINK WE NEED MORE ORGANIZATIONS LIKE YOURS TO DO THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S A NEED OUT THERE AND WE NEED MORE PEOPLE DOING THE SAME THING.
THANK YOU FOR, FOR, UH, DOING YOUR WORK HERE IN OKLAHOMA CITY AND BEING A GOOD PART OF, UH, OF THE CITY.
AND WE APPRECIATE THAT VERY MUCH.
SO DO WE HAVE, UM, EMOTION, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION IN ORDER APPROVING THE SEQUEL EXEMPTION.
NCUP NUMBER 2 0 2 0 DASH 0 0 1 1 SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
THE MOTION MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CIRCLE.
SECOND BECKERMAN USHER VIRUS, PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY BY MEN MEMBERS PRESENT.
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THE THIRD ITEM THAT WE HAVE, SHOULD I GO AHEAD AND WELL, I BELIEVE IT'S OVER TWO COMMISSIONERS.IF I MAY, I DO WORK FOR A SHED AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY CHURCH, SO I MUST RECUSE MYSELF FOR THIS.
SO SHOULD I MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT YET OR NO, THERE AREN'T ANYTHING TO PASS HAS TO PASS BY TWO-THIRDS OF THE FULL COMMISSION, WHICH IS NOT PRESENT, BUT SINCE THIS IS A NOTICED MEETING, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AND WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, AND THEN THIS WOULD BE NOTICED TO A FUTURE MEETING WHEN ALL THE COMMISSIONERS OR FOUR OF THE COMMISSIONERS ARE PRINTED STAFF.
DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A PRESENTATION THEN SINCE WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP TO PUBLIC COMMENT? UM, YES, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO MAKE THE PRESENTATION.
THIS NUMBER THREE IS A SHADOW MOUNTAIN COMMUNITY CHURCH FIREWORKS DISPLAY.
THE REQUEST IS A FIREWORKS DISPLAY ON JULY 2ND AND JULY 3RD, 2022, AND A SEQUEL EXEMPT AND SAFRA COMMENDATION IS A APPROVE.
HOWEVER, YOU'LL NOTE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE NEED AT LEAST A THREE PEOPLE.
SO WE CANNOT VOTE ON IT THIS EVENING, BUT WE CAN GIVE TO THE PUBLIC THE INFORMATION ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IN THE MEANTIME.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS SORRY, AGAIN, THIS IS A PROPOSED, UH, FIREWORKS DISPLAY FOR JULY 2ND AND THIRD OF 2022 AT THE SHADOW MOUNTAIN COMMUNITY CHURCH AT 2100 GREENFIELD DRIVE.
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WE'RE HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES ONE MORE TIME WITH THE PRESENTATION.UM, SO THIS PROJECT, UH, FOR THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION, UH, YOU CAN SEE HERE, UH, IT PROPOSES A FIREWORKS DISPLAY ON BOTH OF THE NIGHTS, JULY 2ND AND JULY 3RD, UH, WITH THE FIREWORKS DISPLAYED TO COMMENCE BETWEEN 8:30 PM AND 9:00 PM, AND THEN LASTS FOR UP TO 15 MINUTES.
UM, ONSITE VIEWING, UH, IS PROPOSED TO OCCURRED NORTH OF THE WORSHIP CENTER, UH, WHERE THERE'S AN OUTDOOR WHERE AN OUTDOOR WORSHIP SERVICE, UH, WILL OCCUR PRIOR TO THE FIREWORKS DISPLAY.
UM, THE FIREWORKS WILL BE LAUNCHED FROM OR PROPOSED TO BE LAUNCHED FROM THE BASEBALL FIELD ON THE SOUTHEAST PORTION OF THE SITE.
SO HERE YOU CAN SEE, UM, THE SITE PLAN ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN, WHERE THE YELLOW LINE IS, IS GREENFIELD DRIVE.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE BASEBALL FIELD, UM, CIRCLED IN GREEN.
SO THE ZONING CODE DOES ALLOW FIREWORKS DISPLAY WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT.
UM, THIS SIDE SHOWS THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IN ORDER TO ENSURE COMPATIBILITY WITH SURROUNDING PROPERTIES AND USES.
SO FIRST, UH, TEMPORARY SIGNAGE IS RECOMMENDED TO ALERT THE NEIGHBORHOOD 10 DAYS PRIOR TO THE EVENT.
UM, SHELL DIAMETERS ARE PROPOSED TO BE LIMITED TO THREE INCHES.
UM, SO FOR REFERENCE, THIS IS THE SAME SIZE LIMITATION THAT IS REQUIRED FOR THE ANNUAL FIREWORKS DISPLAY AT GRAND HILLS HIGH SCHOOL FOR THEIR HOMECOMING.
UM, ADDITIONALLY FOR REFERENCE, UM, THE CITY FIREWORKS DISPLAY ON THE 4TH OF JULY KENNEDY PARK, UM, TYPICALLY USES LARGER SHELLS.
THEY GO UP TO FOUR INCH DIAMETER IN SIZE AND THEN FOR SAFETY PURPOSES, UM, AN OPERATIONAL PERMIT FROM HEARTLAND, FIRE AND RESCUE WILL BE REQUIRED FOR THE EVENT SHOW SEAN RICHARDSON, OUR FIRE MARSHALL IS PRESENT TONIGHT, AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE HIM UP TO THE DIOCESE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS SUMMARY.
UH, HE CAN ADDRESS ANY OF THE SAFETY CONCERNS RELATED TO THE EVENT.
SO IN ORDER TO PROVE THE REQUESTED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, THE PLANNING COMMISSION MUST MAKE THE REQUIRED FINDINGS THAT ARE SHOWN ON THIS SLIDE.
UM, STAFF'S ANALYSIS WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT SHOWS THAT THE PROPOSED USE IS CONSISTENT WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND ZONING.
IF A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS APPROVED, THAT THE PROPOSED DISPLAY DOES COMPLY WITH THE REQUIRED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND THAT COMPATIBILITY CAN BE ACHIEVED THROUGH PROPER NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC.
AND BECAUSE OF THE SHORT DURATION FOR THE EVENT THAT THE, UH, OPERATIONAL PERMIT FROM HARTLAND FIRE AND RESCUE WILL ENSURE THAT THE EVENT IS CONDUCTED IN A SAFE MANNER.
AND THEN LASTLY THAT THE PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND NECESSITY IS SERVED THROUGH THE CONDUCT OF AN EVENT THAT SUPPORTS COMMUNITY PRIDE.
SO TWO PUBLIC INQUIRIES WERE RECEIVED.
UH, THE FIRST CALLER ASKED FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AND THEN ULTIMATELY EXPRESS NO OBJECTIONS.
UM, A SECOND INQUIRY WAS RECEIVED BY EMAIL AND OBJECTS TO THE EVENT BASED ON FIRE SAFETY.
UM, COPIES OF THAT EMAIL HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO EACH OF THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, PRIOR TO TONIGHT'S MEETING.
UH, AS STATED EARLIER, THE PROJECT DOES QUALIFY FOR A SEQUEL EXEMPTION UNDER CLASS FOUR, WHICH DOES ALLOW FOR TEMPORARY EVENTS WITH NEGLIGIBLE, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL EFFECTS.
AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTIONS IN ORDER APPROVING THE SEQUEL EXEMPTION, UM, FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS.
SO AT THIS TIME, UH, WITH THE CHAIRS CONCURRENCE, I'D LIKE TO INVITE SEAN RICHARDSON, OUR FIRE MARSHALL, UH, UP TO THE DIOCESE TO ADDRESS THE OPERATIONAL PERMIT AND RESPOND TO ANY SAFETY QUESTIONS.
GOOD EVENING PLAN COMMISSION STAFF, SEAN RICHARDSON, R I C H A R D S O N.
FIRE MARSHALL WITH HARTLAND FIRE AND RESCUE.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ANSWER? UH, YES.
WHEN THE FIREWORKS EXPLODE INTO THE AIR, UH, WHAT IS THE POSSIBILITY OF ANY AMBERS FALLING TO THE GROUND? ARE THEY USUALLY, DO THEY DISSIPATE BY THE TIME THEY GET TO THE GROUND OR YES.
SO TYPICALLY THEY'RE DESIGNED TO HAVE DISSIPATE AND LOST MOST OF THEIR HEAT RETENTION BY THE TIME THEY HIT THE GROUND, UM, WITH THE EXCLUSION OF A MISFIRE OR SOMETHING GOING WRONG WITH THE SHOOT.
AND AFTER TALKING WITH OUR OPERATIONS, CHIEF BENCO, WE WILL BE ASSIGNING, UM, AN ENGINE COMPANY TO STAND BY DURING THIS EVENT, JUST IN CASE WE DO HAVE AN EMBER, UH, START, BUT IT'S VERY UNLIKELY.
AND THE COMPANY THAT'S GOING TO BE DOING IT AS A
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PROFESSIONAL, A PYROTECHNIC COMPANY.THEY ARE LICENSED AND BONDED AND REGISTERED WITH THE STATE LICENSED BY THE CALIFORNIA STATE FIRE MARSHALL.
SO W PRIMARILY CON UH, CONCERN IS THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE FIRES, ESPECIALLY IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA.
IT'S GOING TO LAST ABOUT 15 MINUTES.
AND YOU DON'T SEE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT WHATSOEVER? I THINK WE'RE TAKING THE APPROPRIATE MITIGATION MEASURES TO MAKE IT A SAFE EVENT.
WE'LL HAVE AN ENGINE COMPANY ON STANDBY.
MY FIRE INSPECTORS, AND MOST LIKELY MYSELF WILL BE ONSITE DURING THE DAY TO INSPECT THE EVENT.
INSURANCE COMPLIANT WAS CODE AND STATE LAW, UM, AND ENSURE THAT THEY'RE SAFE, SAFE HANDLING OF THE PRODUCT.
UM, I BELIEVE WE'RE MITIGATING THE EVENT AS BEST WE CAN.
AVAYAS DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF A, WELL, I WILL SAY YOU KIND OF ANSWERED IT WITH THAT LAST ONE ABOUT BEING ON BEING ONSITE.
UM, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING TYPICALLY FOR A LICENSED PYROTECHNIC TECHNICIAN, THEY EVEN HAVE TO GO THROUGH TRAINING OF, UH, BEING ABLE TO PROPERLY PUT OUT IF SOMETHING WERE TO MISFIRE OR HAVE A, UM, I MEAN, THAT WOULD ALSO PUT THEIR LIFE AT RISK IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, CORRECT.
AND THEIR BOND AND THEIR LIABILITY, THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE FIRE EXTINGUISHERS ONSITE AND BE TRAINED IN THEIR USE.
UM, AND IN OUR EXPERIENCE, THEY'RE A VERY RESPONSIVE COMPANY.
IN ADDITION, WE WILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, PROFESSIONAL FIREFIGHTING STAFF ON SCENE AT THE TIME OF THE SHOOT.
SO THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I, I GUESS I WOULD HAVE JUST BEING SAN DIEGO RESIDENT FOR, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY HOW MANY YEARS, BUT, UM, BUT, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE RED FLAG WARNINGS AND WE HAVE CERTAIN THINGS IF THAT WAS TO HAPPEN THAT WEEKEND.
CAUSE IT COULD HAPPEN IN JULY.
WE TYPICALLY TYPICALLY ARE MORE IN SEPTEMBER AND SEEMS LIKE AN OCTOBER, BUT IF WE HAPPEN TO HAVE A RED FLAG WARNING FOR THAT WEEKEND, WOULD THAT, UM, WOULD THAT PUT AN END TO ANY FIREWORKS DISPLAYS? NOT ONLY ON THE SECOND OR THIRD, BUT EVEN POTENTIALLY ON THE FOURTH, IF IT WAS GOING ON OR NOT, AS LONG AS I CAN POTENTIALLY, UM, IT COULD IMPACT THE EVENT.
IT WOULD BE PART OF THE OPERATIONAL PERMIT REQUIRED BY THE CALIFORNIA FIRE CODE.
SO WE HAVE TO TAKE INTO FACTOR CLIMACTIC AND ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS.
SO IF WE DO HAVE A RED FLAG EVENT, UM, IT, WE WOULD ASSESS THE DURATION OF THE EVENT AND SEE IF IT COORDINATED WITH THE SHOOT TIMES AND MITIGATE AS BEST WE CAN, BUT IT WOULD BE A CONSIDERATION AND IT WOULD BE TIED TO THE OPERATIONAL PERMIT.
SO IT WOULDN'T MEAN, IT DOESN'T MEAN JUST BECAUSE THEY GOT A PERMIT.
THEY CAN GO AHEAD AND GO THROUGH WITH THIS.
WE'RE STILL GOING TO ASSESS SAFETY.
IT'S A CONTINUOUS ASSESSMENT THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
LAURA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? YES, WE HAVE.
UM, ONE SPEAKER TINA SHAW HAS REQUESTED TO SPEAK, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
MY NAME IS TINA SHAW, S H A W.
I'M A RESIDENT OF THE GRANITE HILLS AREA AND HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR 59 YEARS.
UM, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON THE IMPACT THAT FIREWORKS HAVE ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'RE A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH LOTS OF ANIMALS, MYSELF.
I HAVE DOGS AND HORSES AND THE EXPLOSIONS FROM THE FIREWORKS CAUSE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF STRESS.
WE SEE AN INCREASE IN LOST ANIMALS AFTER THE FIREWORKS, ESPECIALLY AFTER OUR JULY 4TH FIREWORKS AND FOR THE HORSES.
UM, THEY TEND TO, UM, RUN FOR THE ENTIRETY AND IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
NOW THERE SEEMS TO BE A TREND WHEN THERE'S AN ANNOUNCEMENT OF, UM, COUNTY FIREWORKS, CITY FIREWORKS THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF ILLEGAL GUNSHOTS IN THE AREA.
WE HAVE A LOT OF ILLEGAL FIREWORKS THAT GO OFF FOR HOURS.
SO IN MY SITUATION WITH MY HORSES, I HAVE SOME GERIATRIC HORSES AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY FEASIBLE TO MOVE THEM OUT.
UM, AND SO I'D LIKE YOU TO PICTURE THE FACT THAT THERE'S HORSES ON THE PROPERTY THAT WILL BE RUNNING FOR HOURS, UM, EVEN AFTER THE FIREWORKS STOP.
AND THAT'S LIKE HAVING A 90 YEAR OLD PERSON RUNNING IN CIRCLES, IT DOES A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DAMAGE TO THEM.
NOW WITH THE REQUEST FOR THE CHURCH TO ASK FOR TWO ADDITIONAL DAYS OF FIREWORKS, WE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE GOING TO HAVE THREE IN A ROW, CONSECUTIVE FIREWORKS EVENINGS.
AND THE AMOUNT OF STRESS ADDED TO OUR ANIMALS IS VERY CONCERNING.
IT'S A HIGH PROBABILITY THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE GREATER.
UH, I HAVE ONE HORSE IN PARTICULAR.
I, I WOULD SEE PROBABLY PASSING AWAY, UM,
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BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HANDLE IT WELL.UM, THE CONVERSATIONS AMONG OUR COMMUNITY, UH, OF GRANITE HILLS IS HOW THEY CAN GET DRUGS SO THEY CAN DRUG THEIR DOGS.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO BE CONSCIOUS, BUT ARE MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS HAVING THREE CONSECUTIVE DAYS OF FIREWORKS.
AND BY THE THIRD I'M TALKING ABOUT THE JULY 4TH, THE BIG FIREWORKS FROM THE CITY.
I DON'T THINK IT'S RESPECTFUL TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO ASK THE RESIDENTS TO, UM, SUBJECT THEIR ANIMALS TO THAT.
I DON'T THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO ASK US, UM, IF THAT WAS TO HAPPEN, TO JUST MOVE OUT FOR THOSE THREE DAYS.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING IN THE ASPECT OF THOSE OF US IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH ANIMALS AND OUR CONCERNS AND HOW IT IMPACTS OUR ANIMALS.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK, UH, MICHELLE, ARE THERE OTHER, OTHER NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE, UH, LIKEWISE HORSES AND DOGS? YEAH.
WE HAVE A FACEBOOK PAGE IS THE GRANITE HILLS COMMUNITY AND THERE'S QUITE A CHATTER AND CONCERN REGARDING THAT.
UM, AND UM, I WANTED TO MAKE A POINT TO BRING THAT TO YOU.
I KNOW PEOPLE ARE VERY BUSY, UM, IN THEIR LIVES AND SOME ARE INTIMIDATED TO COME TO A COUNCIL MEETING TO, UM, SAY THEIR PIECE.
UM, BUT YEAH, WE ARE IN AN AREA.
OUR ZONING IS ONE ACRE MINIMUM IN OUR AREA.
SO MOST, UM, HOMES HAVE ANIMALS OF ASSORTMENTS, NOT JUST HORSES AND DOGS AND CATS, BUT OF OTHERS.
AND, UH, HOW FAR ARE YOU FROM THE BASEBALL FIELD? I AM ABOUT A HALF MILE FROM THE BASEBALL FIELD.
I AM JUST A FEW HUNDRED YARDS FROM THE GRANITE HILLS, UM, FOOTBALL FIELD, WHICH IS WHERE THE JULY 4TH ONES ARE.
SO THE JULY 4TH FIREWORKS ARE SHOT PRETTY MUCH STRAIGHT OVER THE TOP OF MY HOUSE.
AND HOW LONG DO THOSE LAST USUALLY? UM, WELL THE WHOLE CELEBRATIONS, BECAUSE AS I TALKED ABOUT THE ILLEGAL ACTIVITIES THAT GO ON IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY START ABOUT FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE, DURING THE DAY AND THEY GO UNTIL PROBABLY TWO OR THREE IN THE MORNING.
UM, BUT THE LEGAL ONES USUALLY ARE, UM, ANYWHERE FROM 30 PRI YOU KNOW, 30 TO 40 MINUTES ON THE JULY.
AND HOW HAVE THE ANIMALS REACTED TO THE, TO THOSE FIREWORKS? UM, THEY ACT IN A, A DIFFICULT WAY.
I MEAN, I'VE HAD DOGS THAT HAVE TORN THROUGH, UM, THEIR FENCES CLIMBED EIGHT FOOT CHAIN LINK, FENCES, AND RUN.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S TAKEN US DAY TO FIND THEM.
I'VE HAD OTHERS WHERE I'VE, YOU KNOW, THE, I HAVE ONE CURRENTLY I HAVE TO LOCK IN A ROOM, PUT COTTON IN THE EARS WHILE I'M OUTSIDE.
I'VE HAD HORSES GO THROUGH FENCES.
I HAD A HORSE RIP, UM, KIND OF THE WHOLE SIDE OF HIS FACE OFF CAUSE HE HAD HIS HEAD IN THE FEVER WHEN THE FEEDER, WHEN THE FIRST FIREWORK WENT OFF.
AND SO IT TORE HIS EAR OFF AND IT TOURED TOP OF HIS SCALP.
SO WE HAD TO GO THROUGH MONTHS OF REHAB ON HIM.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE HAD OTHER MAJOR THINGS LIKE, ESPECIALLY WITH THE OLDER HORSES WHERE THEY PRETTY MUCH CAN'T WALK, IT WOULD BE LIKE ME GOING OUT AND RUNNING A MARATHON AND THEN TRYING TO WALK THE NEXT WEEK.
SO YOU HAVE TO MEDICATE THEM FOR THEIR, YOU KNOW, OLD JOINTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, THEY'RE JUST A WHOLE LITANY, AS I SAID, I'VE BEEN HERE, YOU KNOW, 59 YEARS AND THROUGH MANY OF FIREWORKS, UM, FOR BOTH THE HIGH SCHOOL AND FOR THE CITY.
UM, AND WE APPRECIATE THE NOTIFICATION.
UM, AND AGAIN, I MEAN, FIREWORKS ARE BEAUTIFUL AND WE DO HAVE TO CONTEND WITH HOW IT AFFECTS OUR ANIMALS.
BUT AGAIN, MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS HAVING THREE DAYS TO ASK THESE ANIMALS TO GO THROUGH IT CONSECUTIVELY.
LET ME ASK MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER, IF SHE HAS ANY COMMISSIONER VALUES, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MICHELLE? UM, YES.
UM, SO I KNOW YOU COMMENTED THAT IN THE COMMUNITY, PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT LIKE GETTING, YOU KNOW, I'LL SAY DRUGS FOR THEIR ANIMALS.
UM, BUT HAVE OTHER, UH, HAVE THERE BEEN OTHER, UM, PREVENTATIVE THERAPIES THAT MAYBE AREN'T NECESSARILY, YOU KNOW, MEDICATIONS, BUT OTHER, OTHER THINGS THAT CAN EVER BE DONE, UM, IN CONVERSATION THEY HAVE THOSE THUNDER VESTS AND THINGS THAT WERE SUPPOSEDLY HELPED SOME ANIMALS FOR, UM, THUNDERSTORMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THERE'S BEEN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE, UH, DOGS, UM, BUYING THUNDER, VESTS, BUYING CBD PRODUCTS, BUYING OTHER PRESCRIPTION, UM, MEDICATIONS TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE VAL DOG, VALIUM.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S CALLED.
UM, AND THINGS LIKE THAT ON THAT, UM, WITH HORSES, THERE'S REALLY
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NOTHING WE CAN DO.UM, FOR THEM WE CAN'T DRUG THEM, YOU KNOW, AND THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE THEY CAN DO MORE DAMAGE IF THEY'RE SEDATED AND THEN THEY TRY AND RUN AND THAT'S WHEN THEY CAN TRIP AND FALL OR, YOU KNOW, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, THERE WAS SUGGESTIONS YEARS AGO TO JUST GET UP AND MOVE, YOU KNOW, MOVE YOUR, MOVE YOUR ANIMALS OUT FOR THE DAY.
WELL, YOU KNOW, AND THERE HAS BEEN TIMES WHEN I'VE HAD YOUNG FOALS THAT ARE JUST, YOU KNOW, A FEW MONTHS OLD THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU GET THE MIRROR AND FULL AND DRAG THEM OUT AND ALL THEM AROUND I'VE DRIVEN AROUND TILL FIREWORKS ARE DONE AND COME BACK.
UM, BUT SOME OF THE OLDER HORSES YOU CAN'T GET IN TRAILERS ANYMORE, SO THEY'RE THERE.
UM, AND THAT MAKES IT DIFFICULT.
THERE ARE OTHER LIVESTOCK ANIMALS THAT THE FAMILIES DON'T HAVE TRAILERING OPTIONS TO BE ABLE TO HAUL THEM OUT.
YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE HAVE GOATS AND PIGS AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN THE AREA.
UM, SO IT IT'S ALWAYS A CONVERSATION FOR US WHEN FIREWORKS ARE COMING UP TO HELP US PREPARE.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE HAPPY FOR THE NOTIFICATION SO WE CAN PREPARE.
UM, BUT IT'S ASKING A LOT OF US WITH THREE CONSECUTIVE DAYS OF FIREWORKS, HOPEFULLY I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTIONS AND YOU DID THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ARE OTHER UNDER ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? NO OTHER SPEAKER.
I'M JUST GOING TO ASK, DO WE NEED TO READ THE EMAIL INTO THE RECORD AND IT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE FINAL RECORD AND SO IT'S BEEN PRESENTED AND SUMMARIZED.
SO DO WE, UH, CONTINUE THE MEETING? YES.
SO, UH, BASED ON THE LACK OF A QUORUM STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO CONTINUE TO OUR NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING, UH, WHICH IS JUNE 7TH.
UM, SO THAT'S THE RECOMMENDED ACTION FROM STAFF.
WOULD THAT BE ENOUGH TIME TO GET PERMITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? SO IT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT TIME FOR THE APPLICANT TO CONTINUE PROCESSING THEIR OPERATIONAL PERMIT WITH HEARTLAND, FIRE, AND RESCUE.
AND THEN THAT WOULD, UM, ADDITIONALLY ALLOW, UM, TIME, UM, SHOULD THE DECISION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION BE APPEALED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO BARBARA, DO I CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING OR JUST SAY CONTINUE TO THE NEXT AT THE NEXT HEARING WILL REMAIN OPEN UNTIL THE NEXT TIME.
SHOULD WE, WHAT ON THAT ABOUT CUSTODY WITH REALLY THERE'S NO OPTION, BUT IT WOULD REMAIN OPEN.
SO WE'LL CALL PAUL SERCO BACK AND THEN YOU CAN, SO THIS MEETING WILL CONTINUE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING TIME, WHICH WILL BE JUNE 7TH, JUNE 7TH, AT 7:00 PM.
FOR ALL THOSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME UH, ARE THERE ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION OR IS THERE ANY STAFF COMMUNICATION? UH, NO ADDITIONAL STAFF COMMUNICATIONS.
COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY REPORTS TO MAKE OR NOTIFICATION? NONE.
WELL, I, UH, MOVED TO ADJOURN THE MEETING UNTIL JUNE 7TH, 2022 AT 7:00 PM.
AND I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER.
SO TLA SECOND BY COMMISSIONER VIS, PLEASE VOTE.
UNANIMOUS WITH MEMBERS PRESENT, RIGHT? THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING.