Oct 23, 2018 City Council Meeting 3pm

I'M SORRY MAYOR.

PRETEND WE DO HAVE TWO SPEAKER CARDS FOR UM, CONSENT ITEMS. IT'S FOR ITEM EIGHT AND ITEM 10.

AND WITH YOUR PERMISSION I CAN CALL.

UM, REGARDING ITEM EIGHT IS JEREMIAH PARIS, JEREMIAH PARIS.

AT, UM, AT THE ZIP CODE, BUT I WANT TO GET RIGHT TO THE POINT.

I APPRECIATE IT.

RESPECT FOR THE CLIENT.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UH, BY WAY OF INTRODUCTION, MY NAME IS JEREMIAH JAMES PEREZ AND I WANT TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR TAKING MY TIME TO COMMENT ON SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOLS.

AND I WANTED TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL ATTENDING TODAY'S MEETING.

MY NAME IS JEREMIAH.

LIKE I SAID, I COME FROM WASHINGTON DC AND I LIVE HERE IN .

AND MY PARENTS LIVED

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MY FORMER CLIENT IS AMERICAN WALKS AND THAT IS A NATIONAL LEADING NONPROFIT FOR SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL.

I WAS A CONSULTANT FOR AMERICA WALKS IN WASHINGTON, D C AND THE PURPOSES TO HAVE SAFE, SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL, SAFE SIDEWALKS, SAFE STREET LAMPS, AND WALKABLE RIDEABLE COMMUNITIES.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR A CITY LIKE OKLAHOMA? WELL, AS SOMEBODY THAT LOST MY SERVICE ANIMAL AS A RESULT OF A BROKEN WHEELCHAIR AND A SIDEWALK THAT WAS, UM, ON A LOW GRADE AND A NUMBER OF OTHER CONCERNS AND HAVE A NUMBER OF FALLS AS IT RELATES TO AMBULATING ACROSS EITHER WITH CRUTCHES OR WITH A WHEELCHAIR, I'VE ALMOST BEEN STRUCK IN A NUMBER OF TIMES AND HAD A NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS TO INCLUDE BRUISES AND CONTINUES TO SUSTAIN INJURIES.

UM, I RESPECTFULLY, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T WANT ASSISTANCE BECAUSE I'M CURRENTLY AMBULATING WITH THE USE OF A BROKEN WHEELCHAIR AND I CURRENTLY STRUGGLE ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS AS BEING HOMELESS WITH UH, UH, BROKEN SIDEWALKS, CROSSWALKS THAT ARE NOT WORKING.

AND I SAY THAT TO SAY, I HOPE THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO THINK ABOUT OUR CHILDREN, OUR CHILDREN CROSSING THE STREETS AND OUR CHILDREN USING THE CROSSWALKS AS IT RELATES TO LEAVING SCHOOLS, GOING TO AND FROM THE GROCERY STORE COMING TO AND FROM HERE WITH THAT, UM, I'M HERE JUST TO PROVIDE MY COMMENT AS AN ADVOCATE AND AS SOMEBODY THAT'S WORKED IN THE FIELD TO COME TO COM COMMON GROUND SOLUTIONS AND SEE WHAT I CAN DO TO HELP AND BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION.

I'M NOT HERE TO COMPLAIN.

I'M HERE TO BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION.

AND I'LL END BY SAYING I MOVED FROM, FROM OCEANSIDE TO BE RIGHT BACK IN OKLAHOMA AND OCEANSIDE, CALIFORNIA HAS A HIGH WALK SCORE HAS A HIGH RIGHT, A HIGH WALKABILITY FACTOR THERE BECAUSE OF THE AMTRAK, THE LOW GROUND.

I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE COUNCIL TO SEE HOW WE CAN IMPROVE OUR STREETS AND HAVE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING MY TIME AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR BEN FOR MEETING WITH ME BEFORE OUR CONSTITUENT MEETING.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR ATTENDING.

THANK YOU SIR.

FOR ITEM 10 IS MEREDITH STOLI.

HEY GUYS, IT'S MEREDITH SOURS WITH LOAN DEPOT AGAIN THANKING YOU FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT OF THE ANNUAL ST PATRICK'S TO HALF.

THIS IS OUR SEVENTH ANNUAL UH, EVENT.

AND UH, ONCE AGAIN, I COME BEARING GOODIES WHICH THEY MADE ME GIVE TO THEM FIRST AND THEY WILL PASS OUT TO YOU SUBSEQUENTLY, SO MAKE SURE, BUT I FOR SURE KNOW THAT ALL OF YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO COME WEARING ONE OF OUR RUNNING KILTS.

I BROUGHT THEM TO YOU GUESSING YOUR SIZES, BUT THEY'RE SUPER COMFY AND NO, YOU CAN LIFT YOUR SKIRTS.

SO, UM, WE, THESE ARE ACTUALLY HUGELY POPULAR IN THE RUNNING CIRCUIT.

WE SEE THESE AT WORLD-CLASS EVENTS ALL OVER.

AND I THINK ALCOHOL CAN BE VERY, VERY PROUD TO HOST A U S TRACK AND FIELD CERTIFIED EVENT FROM A UP TO 49 ELITE ATHLETES INCLUDING SCATTERED SPONSORED ATHLETES, NIKE, REEBOK, THAT KIND OF THING.

UM, WHAT'S EXCITING TOO IS THAT THIS GETS, UM, NOT ONLY DOES THIS RAISE MONEY FOR LOCAL EL CAHONE CHARITIES, BUT IN THIS CASE IT'S RAISING MONEY FOR THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUBS OF EAST COUNTY AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO GET LOW INCOME KIDS OUT FOR FREE AS WELL AS THEIR FAMILIES AND GETTING HEALTHY AND SUPPORTING A HEALTHY ENVIRONMENT.

BUT IT'S ALSO BRINGING PEOPLE AND BUSINESSES FROM OUT OF THE AREA, BUT IN MOSTLY IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY TO EL CAHONE.

AND I SAY IT EVERY YEAR, BUT IT IS SO TRUE, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE SO MUCH SUPPORT FROM THE REAL ESTATE AGENT AGENTS.

THEY COME OUT FROM DEL MAR AND CARLSBAD AND THEY LOOK UP INTO THE HILLS AND SAY, WOW, THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL HOME.

AND IT'S SO MUCH BIGGER THAN MY SHACK IN DEL MAR.

WHAT A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE.

SO I'M REALLY PROUD AND REALLY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT THAT IT BRINGS TO THE COMMUNITY.

IT HELPS OUR ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT.

IT BRINGS GREAT GROWTH AND OPPORTUNITY AND MOST IMPORTANT, IT HELPS OUR KIDS.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND APPRECIATE IT.

NO MORE SPEAKER SIR FOR CONSENT ITEMS. THANK YOU.

UH, MORGAN, DO WE HAVE TO, UH, RE VOTE ON THE CONSENT ITEMS? I DON'T THINK THE VOTE WAS ANNOUNCED, SO MAYBE YOU SHOULD CALL FOR AGAIN A EMOTION, A SECOND AND THEN A VOTE.

AND I HAD A NUMBER SEVEN STAFF.

PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENTS.

[7. Purchase of Litter and Recycling Receptacles RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council adopts the next RESOLUTION in order authorizing the Purchasing Agent, in accordance with Municipal Code 3.20.010(C)(5), to execute a purchase agreement with Canterbury Designs of Ohio, LLC for recycling and trash receptacles in an amount of $172,334.00.]

MR MR EPPERSON IS GOING TO PRESENT THIS ITEM.

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GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR PRO TEM AND STAFF.

UH, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO COME TO YOU TODAY TO TALK ABOUT, UH, LITTER AND RECYCLING RECEPTACLES.

UH, IT SEEMS LIKE SOMETHING, WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS? IT'S TRASH CANS AND RECYCLING CANS, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

UM, IN OUR DOWNTOWN WE HAVE SEVERAL ISSUES THAT, UH, EVEN THOUGH WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER ISSUES OUT THERE, UH, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ONES THAT REQUIRES OUR ATTENTION.

AT THIS TIME.

UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT TYPES OF RECEPTACLES IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA.

IT KIND OF IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE, UM, YOU CAN SEE FROM THESE PHOTOS HERE THAT THERE'S NO, UH, COHESIVENESS OR CONSISTENCY.

AND SO IN AN EFFORT TO DO THAT, WE HAVE A STANDARD TRASH RECEPTACLE THAT WE'VE BEEN UTILIZING.

THAT'S THE BLACK ONE UP IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER.

BUT IN THAT LARGER PHOTO IN THE CENTER, YOU CAN SEE HOW THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT TYPES IN THE ONE PHOTO SHOT THERE.

AND, AND YEAH, I KINDA CHERRY PICK THAT, UH, THAT PHOTO THERE TO KIND OF SHOW AND EMPHASIZE THIS POINT.

BUT THERE, THERE ARE DIFFERENT ONES.

YOU CAN SEE THE BLACK ONE IN THE BACKGROUND, THE UH, MALE RECEPTACLE STYLE.

AND IN THE FOREGROUND THERE WE WENT NEXT TO A GREEN ONE, SO SEVERAL DIFFERENT KINDS, EVEN IN THE SAME AREA.

AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, IS, UM, UTILIZE SOME FUNDS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US SO WE NO LONGER HAVE DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT FUNDS TO HELP TO SUPPORT THIS EFFORT, WHICH WE USED TO HAVE IN DAYS PAST.

HOWEVER, THERE IS A SOURCE OF FUNDS IS CALLED THE CAL RECYCLE GRANT FUNDS.

AND THESE FUNDS ARE VERY NARROW.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE DEFINED AS, AS BEING VERY NARROW IN ITS USE.

UH, WE CAN'T USE THEM TO BUILD PARKS TO CLEAN UP TRASH.

WE CAN'T USE THEM FOR, FOR MANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE, WE, WE DESPERATELY NEED.

BUT IN ITS NARROW DEFINITION, UH, IT'S MEANT TO ENCOURAGE MORE RECYCLING OF BOTTLES AND CANS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

UH, THERE, IT CAN BE USED TO PURCHASE, UM, GOODS AND MATERIALS THAT ARE MADE FROM RECYCLED PRODUCTS.

BUT THAT LIST IS SO NARROW AS WELL THAT, UH, WE'VE ACTUALLY GONE SEVERAL TIMES SAYING, WELL, CAN WE BUY RECYCLED PLASTIC BOTTLE CABINETS FOR THE BREAK ROOM OR SOMETHING? RIGHT.

UH, THEY ACTUALLY MAKE CABINETRY, KITCHEN CABINETRY OUT OF RECYCLED BOTTLES AND THEY SAID, NO, WE CAN'T USE IT FOR THAT.

UM, SO WE ARE TRYING AND SO WE, WE'VE BEEN SAVING UP FUNDS FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW AND IN FACT, WE ARE AT A POINT WHERE SOME OF THE FUNDS ARE GOING TO BE EXPIRING TO WHERE WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY GIVE IT BACK.

THIS IS FREE MONEY TO US THAT WE'RE NOT UTIL IT UTILIZING.

AND SO WE SAID, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE RECYCLING CANS IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA, A SUPERBLOCK AND THAT SURROUNDING AREA.

SO WE, WE WENT FORWARD AND CONTACTED THE COMPANY THAT PROVIDES THE STANDARD BLACK, UM, CAST IRON STEEL, UH, TRASH CANS AND THEY'RE VERY GOOD FOR SEVERAL, SEVERAL REASONS, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND A RECYCLING CAN THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH THAT, UH, CONSISTENCY AND LOOK AESTHETICS, CONSISTENCY WITH, UM, HOW WE CAN MAINTAIN THEM, THE PARTS THAT WE CAN INTERCHANGE WITH THEM SO THAT THEY'RE CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER.

AND SO WE'RE ALSO LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT HELPS THE ENVIRONMENT WE'RE AT.

WE NEED TO ADD RECYCLING CANS NEXT TO ALL OF OUR TRASH CANS SO THAT WE CAN BE GREEN AND, AND HELP WITH THAT.

AN ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION THERE, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT HAND PHOTO, HOW THERE'S A HOLE IN THE FRONT THERE.

UM, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE MANUFACTURER, GET SOMETHING WHERE THE HOLE IS LIMITED SO THAT, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER KENDRICK PERFECT TIMING, THE WATER BOTTLE, YES.

THAT, THAT CAN FIT RIGHT THROUGH THE HOLE.

UH, WE NEED SOMETHING THAT SIZE AND, UH, IF YOU WERE TO STICK YOUR ARM IN THERE AND GRAB THE WATER BOTTLE, NOW YOU'RE, IT'S LIKE THE MONKEY YOU IN TRYING TO GRAB THE BANANA.

IT CAN'T PULL IT OUT CAUSE THE HANDS TOO BIG.

UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO MAKE THIS SOMETHING TO WHERE, UM, IT DOESN'T ENCOURAGE A WHOLE LOT OF, OF THEFT OF THE RECYCLABLES.

UM, HOWEVER, MAKE IT USABLE FOR THE PUBLIC SO THAT THEY CAN RECYCLE AND GET WHAT THEY CAN DONE.

AND WE TALK ABOUT SECURITY.

A LOT OF THE CURRENT BARRELS THAT WE HAVE ARE, ARE THESE TYPES HERE ON THE FAR RIGHT WHERE THE LID CAN EASILY JUST BE PICKED UP.

AND SO IF WE WERE TO GO WITH THE KIND THAT WE HAVE, YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY HAVE A LOCK ON THEM AND THEY ARE NOT EASILY ACCESSIBLE.

AND SO LIKE THE TRASH CANS THAT WE HAVE, THE RECYCLING BINS ALSO HAVE THAT SWINGING BIG DOOR TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN AN ACCESS THE CONTENT INSIDE, BUT IT IS LOCKABLE.

SO, UM, THAT, THAT'S SOME REALLY GOOD, UM, THINGS THERE.

AND WITH THAT, I WOULD ASK THAT WE SUPPORT THIS, UH, ITEM ON THE, ON THE AGENDA TODAY AND WE ARE GOING TO BE SPENDING THOSE FUNDS TO PURCHASE THOSE, THOSE FUNDS, NO GENERAL FUNDS WILL BE USED AND WE'RE GONNA BE SPENDING THOSE

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FUNDS, UH, THAT, THAT ARE SET ASIDE FOR THIS PURPOSE ON THOSE CANS.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO, TO, TO SPEND IT WITH THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER.

MCLOWEN YES.

CAN WE MAKE THE, OR WE'RE GOING TO REPLAY SOME OF THE ONES WE HAVE, RIGHT? CORRECT.

CAN WE MAKE THOSE AVAILABLE TO DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, CHURCHES, THINGS LIKE THAT SO THAT THEY CAN USE THEM IF WE AREN'T GOING TO USE HIM AND UH, RATHER THAN JUST DESTROY HIM.

THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.

UH, THE FIRST PRIORITY IS WE HAVE SIMILAR CANS, LIKE THOSE THAT ARE NOT IN OUR DOWNTOWN AREA THAT NEED TO BE UPGRADED OR REPLACED OR ADDED TO.

SO THE FIRST PRIORITY WOULD BE TO THOSE ELSEWHERE, MAYBE IN A PARK OR OTHER PART OF THE CITY WHERE WE CAN GET SOME, SOME MORE CONSISTENCY THERE.

AND THEN LASTLY, WE DO HAVE PROCUREMENT POLICIES AND COUNCIL POLICIES, WHICH, UM, WHICH DO AID US IN HOW WE WILL DISTRIBUTE AND, AND GET RID OF FOR ALL INTENSIVE PURPOSES, UH, EXCESS INVENTORY WITH, WITH THE CITY.

SO WE WILL DEFINITELY FOLLOW THOSE AND WE'LL LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THERE.

UM, IF IT'S AVAILABLE TO US.

SURE.

THE CHAMBER WOULD PUT IT OUT TO THEIR MEMBERS AND THEY PROBABLY COULD USE QUITE A FEW OF THEM THEMSELVES AND AROUND THE CITY.

MAYBE NOT DOWNTOWN, BUT ANOTHER AREAS.

AND UH, IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE TRASH CANS PLACED AROUND NEWER.

THERE ARE NONE NOW AND MAYBE THE WOULDN'T BE SO MUCH TRASH ON THE GROUND.

ALL VERY GOOD AND VALID POINTS AND GOOD IDEAS, SO APPRECIATE THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER COLLAGIO A DUCK.

WHO WOULD PICK THESE UP? CURRENTLY THERE ARE TWO GROUPS THAT YOU MEAN EMPTY THE RECYCLING AND UH, AND THE TRASH CANS.

THERE ARE TWO GROUPS THAT CURRENTLY OUR TRASH CANS ARE PUBLIC WORKS CREWS AND ALSO THE DOWNTOWN, UH, BUSINESS, UM, ASSOCIATION, THE P BID.

AND SO THOSE CONTRACTS IN THOSE AREAS WOULD STILL REMAIN IN FORCE.

WOULD THAT THEN NOT AFFECT THE FISCAL IMPACT BEYOND THE, THE HARD COST OF THE, THE BINS? UH, TRANSLATING TO ADDITIONAL LABOR COSTS.

IT'S MINIMAL SINCE THE NEW CANS ARE ASIDE OR NEXT TO THE EXISTING CANS.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT ADDING A RECYCLING BIN A HUNDRED YARDS AWAY FROM A TRASHCAN.

WE'RE TRYING TO CO LOCATE THEM SO IT DOESN'T REQUIRE ANY ADDITIONAL EFFORT.

THE ROUTES CAN MAINTAIN AND, AND IT'S JUST QUICK.

IT MIGHT ADD, LET'S BE HONEST, IT MIGHT ADD LIKE 30 SECONDS TO THEIR ROUTE WHEN THEY'RE JUST EMPTYING IT.

BUT WE SEE THIS AS SOMETHING THAT WILL ALSO HELP BECAUSE, UH, WE GET A LOT OF TRASH THAT'S KINDA JUST LEFT AROUND OR BOTTLES THROWN ON THE GROUND.

AND WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS HELPS INCENTIVIZE ALSO DISCOURAGING THAT AND OFFSETTING THAT.

ONCE THE PLASTIC IS PICKED UP AND IT GOES TO PUBLIC WORKS, I PRESUME THEN WASTE MANAGEMENT OR WHOEVER ELSE WILL IS PICKING THIS UP.

YEAH, WE'LL DESTROY, WE'LL DISPOSE OF IT AS WE DO OUR TRASH.

BUT ON THE RECYCLING SIDE OF THINGS, WOULDN'T THAT THEN INCUR ANOTHER COST? CAUSE IT WOULD BE MORE PLASTIC.

I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING HOW IT WOULD BE MORE COST.

WE WOULD JUST ALSO DELIVER IT TO THE DISPOSAL SITE THE SAME THAT WE WOULD, UH, WE'D HAVE BAGS OF TRASH BAGS OF RECYCLING AND THEN DELIVER THEM.

I GUESS I WAS, I WAS MORE POINTING TO THE, THE LABOR ASPECT OF IT ALL IS MORE, YOU KNOW, CREATING MORE, MORE OF THAT WOULD BE MORE LABOR.

AND I SAY THAT ONLY TO GET TO, I APPRECIATE THE, THE UH, THE, THE STRATEGY, BUT I'M USING THOSE FUNDS TO, TO USING THOSE FUNDS STRICTLY TO GET BINS AS OPPOSED TO LIKE THE CAPITALIST IN ME WOULD SAY, UM, GET THEM SPONSORED.

RIGHT.

LIKE TOILET OF ALCOHOL AND OR WHAT HAVE YOU, AND GET THOSE, THOSE PLACED ON THERE.

IT WOULD, IT WOULD BRING A SENSE OF COMMUNITY TOO BECAUSE THEY'RE TIE EVERYTHING TOGETHER AND MAYBE THIS TRESPASSES ON THE ROLE OF, I'M PROBABLY CERTAIN IT DOES AS TO THE LOCAL CHAMBER THAT WOULD HAVE, BUT BECAUSE AFTER THESE FUNDS, THEN YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOTHING THERE AND WE WOULD NEED TO REPLENISH THESE FUNDS FOR CERTAIN THINGS.

SO THAT, THAT WAS MY CONCERNS.

I WAS GONNA I WAS GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS BEFORE IT WAS PULLED.

IS IS ONE, I THINK IT WOULD ADD A COSTS TO THE A T JUST WITH RESPECT TO LABOR CAUSE IT WOULD BE MORE, MORE THINGS TO DO, WHICH IS, WHICH IS OKAY, NO PROBLEM.

BUT I WAS TRYING TO REPLENISH THAT EXTRA COST THAT WE WOULD INCUR WITH POSSIBLY, UM, SPONSORING THEM.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, SORT OF SIMILAR TO WHEN WE DID THE WALKTHROUGH WHEN I MENTIONED TO YOU IN THE, IN THAT PACK.

AND I GUESS THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE THE CAPITALIST IN ME IN SAYING THAT.

AND AS A, YOU KNOW, IF I'M A BUSINESS OWNER, I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD DEFINITELY CONSIDER THAT AS, AS BEING AN OPTION BECAUSE, BECAUSE OF THE LONGEVITY OF THOSE IRON, UH, CANS AND UM, PRODUCT PLACEMENT AT THE END OF THE DAY.

SURE.

UH, ALL,

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NOW WE'RE AT PUBLIC COMMENT.

ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COUNCILMAN GOEBEL TO CLARIFY? THIS IS A USE IT OR LOSE IT FUND IN ESSENCE, YES.

AS EVERY YEAR WE'RE ELIGIBLE FOR NEW FUNDS FROM CAL RECYCLE.

AND IT'S KINDA ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE THEY SAY YOU CAN USE OR MAINTAIN UP TO LIKE ABOUT FIVE YEARS WORTH OF ALLOCATIONS AND IF YOU DON'T USE IT THEN THE OLDEST ONE DROPS OFF AND THE NEXT ONE DROPS OFF.

SO YEAH, IT IS ESSENTIALLY USE IT OR LOSE IT.

AND WE HAVE, WE'RE ON THAT BREAK RIGHT NOW AND SO THIS IS, THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US AND YOU'RE SAYING THE FUNDS ARE VERY LIMITED AND HOW WE CAN USE THOSE FUNDS.

THE INTENT IS TO DO RECYCLING.

SO THERE'S ONLY SO MANY WAYS YOU CAN USE THE FUNDS.

I MEAN WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS CONSENT ITEM.

PLEASE VOTE MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT .

[ PUBLIC COMMENT: At this time, any person may address a matter within the jurisdiction of the City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the El Cajon Redevelopment Agency that is not on the Agenda. Comments relating to items on today’s docket are to be taken at the time the item is heard. State law prohibits discussion or action on items not on the Agenda; however, Council, Authority and Agency Members may briefly respond to statements or questions. An item may be placed on a future Agenda.]

PUBLIC COMMENT.

AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS A MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE ALCOHOL REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.

THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

COMMENTS RELATING TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA ARE TO BE TAKEN AT THE TIME THE ITEM IS HEARD.

STATE PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ON ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

HOWEVER, COUNSEL 30 AND AGENCY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND TO STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS AND I DIDN'T.

MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT? WE HAVE 13 SPEAKERS.

THE FIRST ONE IS SUNSHINE HORTON.

GOOD AFTERNOON CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR PRO, TEMP, WHATEVER AND EVERYBODY.

OKAY, I'M GOING TO READ SOMETHING.

THE THE FIGHT OF TWO WOLF'S WITHIN YOU IN ALL CHEROKEES TEACHING HIS GRANDSON ABOUT LIFE.

A FIGHT IS GOING INSIDE ME.

HE SAID TO THE BOY, IT IS HORRIBLE, TERRIBLE FIGHT AND IT'S BETWEEN TWO WHOOPS.

ONE IS EVIL.

HE IS ANGER, MB, SOUR

[9. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS:]

REGRET, GREED, ARROGANCE, PV, GUILT, RESENTMENT, INFERIORITY, LIES, FALSE PRIDE, SUPERIORITY AND EGO.

COLLATERAL HE CONTINUE.

THE OTHER IS GOOD.

HE J, PEACE, LOVE, HOPE, SERENITY, HUMILITY, KINDNESS, THE NETHERLANDS, EM, EMPATHY, GENEROSITY, TRUTH, COMPASSION AND FAITH.

THE SAME FIGHT IS GOING INSIDE YOU AND ALL OF US.

THE GRANDSON THOUGHT FOR A MINUTE AND THEN HE ASKED HIS GRANDFATHER, GRANDFATHER, WISH WOOF WILL WIN.

AND WE GO, NO.

THE ONE WE FEED AND WE KNOW QUITE WELL WHAT WOLF IS BEING COLLAGE OR FEELING.

YOU'RE NOT WORTH NOTHING.

NOW I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE CIGARETTES THAT EVERYBODY SMOKE.

I'M SAVING MONIES TO MAKE LITTLE POCKET ASHTRAYS SO I CAN BE GIVEN TO THEM BECAUSE IT IS NOT FAIR FOR PEOPLE THAT WORK AT THE CV GROUNDS TO PICK UP ALL THOSE BUT THAT ALL THOSE PEOPLE LIVE SO I DECIDED TO GET MONEY AND BUY THOSE, ORDER THEM AND GIVE THEM TO PEOPLE.

THE OTHER ONE I WANTED TO KNOW WHATEVER HAPPENED TO SAFE HEAVEN THAT WE USED TO LIKE HEAR KIDS WHO THEY WERE IN TROUBLE, THEY COULD COME TO CITY HALL BECAUSE IT WAS A SAFE HABIT.

I KNOW THAT IMPORTANT BILL, THEY DO THE BACKGROUND ON THE FAMILIES AND EVERYTHING AND THEY HOUSE SAFE HEAVEN HOUSES.

WISH IT WOULD BE NICE BECAUSE SOME KIDS DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

BIG WAS SIGNED, CAN GO THERE AND CALL THE PARENTS OR WHATEVER.

THAT WAS MY OTHER THING.

OTHER THAN THAT, I'LL BE BACK NEXT MEETING AS I'M ELF BECAUSE I DIDN'T FINISH THE OUTFIT.

AND MR COLLAGE, I HOPE THAT YOU TOUCH YOUR HEART AND TURN INTO A GOOD PERSON BECAUSE TO ME

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SURE.

IT IS FUNNY.

I KNOW, BUT YOU'RE NOT WORTH NOTHING TO ME, SIR.

I RESPECT YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE REPRESENT.

I'LL GO HOME, BUT I DON'T RESPECT YOU AFTER THAT.

AND WHERE'S YOUR WIFE, SIR? THANK YOU CHRIS SLEEPER.

I THINK THE GOOD WOLF IS THE HOLY SPIRIT.

I WANT TO, UH, BUT HE'S NOT A WOLF BY THE WAY.

I WANT TO, UH, JUST CHALLENGE OUR THINKING TODAY ON A HAUNT FEST.

I KNOW IT'S A, UH, A GREAT EVENT AND A LOT OF PEOPLE COME OUT TO IT, BUT, UH, I WANT TO ENCOURAGE US TO MAYBE DISCONNECT FROM HALLOWEEN AND DO SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE CREATIVE.

UH, I WANT TO GIVE US SOME OF THE ROOTS OF HALLOWEEN.

WHAT WE'RE CONNECTING WITH HERE.

UH, IT'S, UH, HALLOWEEN IS RELATED TO SPIRITUAL FORCES, EVIL FORCES.

IT'S ROOTED IN ANCESTRAL WORSHIP.

AND TO MAKE CONTACT WITH SPIRITS FROM THE DEAD, UH, THOUSANDS OF WICCANS AND WITCHES FOLLOW THIS CELTIC RITUAL, UH, AND CONSIDER IT THE MOST SACRED NIGHT OF THE YEAR.

THERE'S A QUOTE FROM US T A USA TODAY.

IT SAYS FROM A, WHICH CHRISTIANS DON'T REALIZE IT, BUT THEY CELEBRATE OUR HOLIDAY WITH US.

AND WE LIKE IT THAT WAY.

I BELIEVE IT'S WISE FOR US TO KNOW THE DARK ORIGINS OF HALLOWEEN, THE ANCIENT CALCS.

CELTS TRIED TO APPEASE E A WICKED SPIRITS WITH SWEETS.

THE CELTS WORE FRIGHTENING MASKS, SO AS, UH, SO THAT EVIL SPIRITS WOULD MISTAKENLY THINK, UH, THINK THERE THEY WERE SPIRITS THEMSELVES AND WOULD LEAVE THEM ALONE.

THEY WOULD CARVE PUMPKINS AND WERE DISPLAYING IT WAS TO, IT WAS TO REPEL EVIL SPIRITS.

THE PUMPKIN CARVING WITH A CANDLES INSIDE.

IT'S THE BIGGEST NIGHT OF THE YEAR FOR WITCHES, UH, CULTISTS AND SATANISTS TO CONTACT THE DEAD, TO CAST SPELLS AND TO HAVE HUMAN SACRIFICES.

I JUST DON'T BELIEVE THAT, UH, IT'S GOOD FOR OUR CITY OR FOR OUR CHILDREN TO BE CONNECTING WITH THAT.

AND BY THE WAY, HARRY POTTER IS WHICH AND DO WE REALLY WANT OUR KIDS TO, UH, EMBRACE A CULTIC PRACTICES.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN.

I USED TO GO TO A GROUP THAT THEY, UH, THEY CALLED IT A REFORMATION FESTIVAL RATHER THAN HALLOWEEN AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD HAVE ANY APPEAL TO THE CITY OR NOT, BUT UM, THAT'S A LITTLE LESS DISCRIMINATION OF, AS YOU KNOW, NOT SO INFLICTING.

SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW.

SOME, MAYBE THE CITY MANAGER AND SOME OF THE RECREATION DIFF FESTIVAL, UH, RECREATION DEPARTMENT MIGHT WANT TO TALK ABOUT MAYBE INCORPORATING THAT INTO THE THEME.

SO ANYWAY, I JUST THOUGHT I'D BRING THAT UP.

SO I WENT ON FACEBOOK AND FOUND OUT WHO YOU REALLY ARE AND THAT FACE, DUDE, YOU LOOK LIKE JAY LENO WITH THAT CHIN.

CHRIS.

MARK LANE.

THANK YOU CITY COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.

I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL ARE AWARE, BUT UH, MY REALLY GOOD FRIEND ERICA SALEM SITTING BACK THERE WAS SUBJECTED OVER THE WEEKEND TO YOUR COLLEAGUE BEN UTTER CONTEMPT FOR WOMEN AND ABUSIVE BEHAVIOR TO WOMEN.

I'M GOING TO READ WHAT HE WAS POSTING ABOUT HER ON UH, HIS INSTAGRAM.

LITTLE INNOCUOUS.

YOU TALK ABOUT ME BECAUSE IF YOU TALK ABOUT YOURSELF, NO ONE WILL LISTEN.

THAT'S WHAT HE SAID TO HIS CONSTITUENT.

UM, TRY AGAIN KID.

I'M GLAD YOU THINK ABOUT ME ALL DAY SO MUCH.

YOU SPEND TIME ON MY IGE GETS BETTER.

ERICA SALEM.

I CAN SEE THAT YOU SUFFER FROM A CHRONIC CASE OF STUPID AND YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY? YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID ERICA.

THANKS.

I'M ONLY CLASSY WITH PEOPLE I CARE ABOUT.

YOU ON THE OTHER HAND ARE NEITHER.

YOU'RE NOT HUMAN NOR DO I CARE ABOUT YOU.

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THIS IS YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER GUYS TALKING TO ONE OF HIS FEMALE CONSTITUENTS.

HEY, I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR SON AND BE A MOTHER FOR ONCE IN YOUR LIFE.

I KNOW IT PAINS YOU TO COME TO THE REALIZATION OF THIS FACT THAT I'M KNOWN WORLDWIDE AND I'M ONLY REPLYING TO YOU GUYS BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S RUINING YOUR DAY.

I'M FAMOUS.

YOU ARE FAMOUS.

EVERYBODY THINKS YOU'RE A DOUCHEBAG.

I URGE YOU GUYS TO REALLY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT THIS MAN DOES TO WOMEN ALL THE TIME AND DO WHATEVER YOU CAN.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW BEN, YOU FANCY YOURSELF AS A MINI TRUMP.

WE ALL JUST SEE YOU AS A MINI.

THAT'S WHAT WE SEE WHEN YOU'RE DONE CHASING PEOPLE WITH YOUR PENISES EXTENSION AND I'M TALKING ABOUT YOUR DOG AND THREATENING THEM WITH IT WHEN YOU'RE DONE.

KEYBOARD WARRIORING AGAINST WOMEN BEING ABUSIVE AND YOU WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION FACE TO FACE WITH A MAN.

I'M YOUR HUCKLEBERRY BRO.

I'M THE GUY.

ALL RIGHT.

KEVIN MILLER, THE CITY COUNCIL STAFF AND NO MARK WAS GOING TO BRING UP THE INTERNET, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR.

YOU TOO.

WATCH THE VIDEO THAT YOU POSTED VAN ABOUT HOW THE CITY COUNCIL'S DOING NOTHING ABOUT HOMELESSNESS AND LIKE SO MANY THINGS YOU SEE.

IT'S RIDICULOUS AND UNTRUE.

UM, BY MY COUNT, THE CITY COUNCIL IS INVESTED OVER $2 MILLION IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS IN HOMELESSNESS AND THERE'S PEOPLE IN THIS AUDIENCE THAT ARE WORKING REALLY, REALLY HARD.

LIKE ERIC LON, I'M RICK BACONE SNYDER.

THERE'S 200 OF US WORKING FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS ON THE HOMELESS TASK FORCE HERE.

I HAVEN'T SEEN BEN COLLAGIO THERE, BUT I HAVE SEEN HIM, UH, ON A VIDEO SAY THAT YOU DID NOTHING, THAT YOU'RE DOING NOTHING ABOUT HOMELESSNESS.

SO IN THIS SMALL VENUE, I JUST WANTED TO STRAIGHTEN THAT OUT AND SAY I'M PROUD TO BE WORKING WITH YOU.

IT'S A HARD BATTLE.

WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORT AND SWEAT AND ENERGY THAT'S PUT INTO IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

ALSO NOTICED THAT I GOT A DOOR HANGER AND I NOTICED THAT VIN WAS TAKING COMPLETE RESPONSIBILITY FOR BRINGING THE MARRIOTT HOTEL IN TWO YEARS HERE TO TELCO, HON.

I KNOW PERSONALLY AS WE ALL DO THAT IT TOOK A LOT LONGER THAN TWO YEARS TO NEGOTIATE THAT DEAL, TO WORK OUT THE BUGS AND TO BRING THE MARRIOTT HOTEL HE HAD VERY LITTLE TO DO, IF ANYTHING WITH IT.

LIVE NATION HAS EXACTLY THE SAME WAY.

LET'S TAKE SOME CREDIT FOR IT BECAUSE IN TWO YEARS, VAN COLLAGIO BROUGHT LIVE NATION HERE.

AMAZING.

THE LAST ONE IS THE ALCOHOL AND ELVES.

I KINDA LIKED THAT PROJECT.

BUT OUT OF ONE SIDE OF YOUR MOUTH YOU'RE HELPING THE CITIZENS WHILE YOU'RE ATTACKING BOB MCCLELLAN FOR BEING A SENIOR CITIZEN AND CALLING HIM RIDICULOUS THAT YOU SIT NEXT TO HIM ON THE CITY COUNCIL.

THERE'S ONE PERSON THAT'S RIDICULOUS AND ONE POLITICIAN HERE THAT THINKS THAT THE VOTERS ARE STUPID WILL KNOWN NOVEMBER THE FIRST WEEK IN NOVEMBER.

KIM CITY, GLENNA, THEY APPROACH HIM, KENDRICK COUNCIL STAFF, EXCUSE ME, FIRST OF ALL, WHAT'S IT GOING TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS HERE? BUT I'M A LITTLE BIT TIRED OF THIS BEN COLLAGIO BASHING EVERY MEETING CAUSE I KNOW FOR A FACT A LOT OF IT IS NOT TRUE.

IT'S NOT FOUNDED.

LIKE I SAID LAST TWO COUNCIL MEETINGS, THE VERY JUDGE TAYLOR WHO'S BROUGHT ALL THESE ACCUSATIONS DOWN ON MR THE SHOW ON AUGUST ATTENT HE ACCUSED HIMSELF FROM HAVING ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS HERE AND I WON'T SPEAK ANY MORE ABOUT IT CAUSE I HAVE A LOT OF GOOD THINGS.

I COULD ALSO SPEAK ABOUT MR COLLAZO.

FOR OUT FOR RENT STABILIZATION AND MEDIATION.

ABOUT THE RENT MEDIATION THAT MY PARK VILLANOVA IS GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.

IT'S PROCEEDING WELL AND IT WILL HAPPEN ON NOVEMBER THE NINTH THANKS TO THE CITY MANAGER AND MR TONY CHUTE OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT, UH, FORM 740, 60.

I SPOKE ABOUT THOSE AND HOW EVEN MY PARK CONTRIBUTED $3,500 TO YOU, MR KENDRICK AND TO MAYO, WALES WHEN WE ARE TRYING TO FIGHT

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AND I WILL BE REPORTING BECAUSE I'LL HAVE ACCESS TO IT.

THE OCTOBER THE 25TH, WHICH IS THIS FRIDAY FOR AN UPDATE, BUT I WON'T BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO IT UNTIL THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING NOVEMBER 13TH.

UH, I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT REAL QUICKLY ABOUT WOMEN TODAY AND I'M DOING THIS ONLY BECAUSE MY OWN MOTHER ALWAYS TOLD ME THAT, UH, TWO THINGS, UH, YOU'LL NEVER KNOW WHAT IT IS TO BE A MOTHER AND WOMEN BRING US ALL INTO THIS WORLD VERY SIMPLY.

AND I'M GOING TO RECOGNIZE THREE WOMEN FROM MY OWN PARK, RIGHT REAL QUICKLY RIGHT NOW WHO IS SITTING RIGHT OVER HERE.

AND THESE LADIES WORKED WITH THE PEOPLE LIKE COUNCILMAN GOEBEL PICKING UP TRASH ALSO.

ONE OF THEM HAS BEEN A MEMBER OF THE BOSTONIAN, UH, WOMAN'S, EXCUSE ME, WOMAN'S CLUB, WHICH IS A HUNDRED PLUS YEAR OLD CLUB HERE IN ELGON.

AND THEY DO A LOT OF GOOD WORK, BUT THEY DON'T ALWAYS GET THE RECOGNITION, YOU KNOW, FROM MY OWN PARK.

AND I'M VERY PROUD OF THEM FOR DOING THIS.

UH, ALSO SPEAKING OF WOMEN, WE JUST HAD A, UH, UH, UH, A WATCH MEETING WITH A POLICE OFFICER, SUSAN STOLLER, WHO WAS GREAT.

I MEAN, SHE WAS SO HONEST AND SO FORWARD AND WHAT A GREAT PRESENTATION.

BUT THE ONE THING THAT WE ALL TOOK AWAY FROM THIS PRO TEM MAYOR, CITY MANAGER OF MITCHELL AND MR DIMAGGIO WAS THAT HOW UNDERSTAFFED AND HOW UNDERPAID THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS.

AND SHE GAVE US FACTS AND I'LL, I'LL LEAVE IT LIKE THAT THERE, BUT, UH, REAL QUICKLY, THANK YOU FOR THE LECTURE TIME BY THE WAY.

UH, EXCUSE ME.

COULD YOU WRAP IT UP PLEASE? I WILL RIGHT NOW AND I'LL DO IT REAL QUICKLY.

VOTE YES.

ON PROPOSITION 10 SENIORS VOTE.

AND ESPECIALLY WOMEN SENIORS VOTE.

I WANT EVERYONE TO REMEMBER THAT.

WE'RE THE CITIZENS ON EIGHTH STREET AND MARY STREET ARE CONCERNED WITH THE SAFETY OF OUR STREETS DUE TO THE EXCESSIVE SPEEDS THAT OCCUR OVER 25 MILES PER HOUR DURING THE 24 HOURS OF A DAY.

WE NEED A STOP SIGN ON THE CORNER OF ANN AND MARY STREET GOING SOUTH TO NORTH AND A STOP SIGN ON THE OTHER CORNER OF ANN STREET AND MARY STREET NORTH TO SOUTH TO DRASTICALLY REDUCE THE PROBABILITY OF AN ACCIDENT.

THESE INCIDENTS APPEAR TO BE ON THE UPRISE AS IN THE PAST.

THIS WAS NOT THAT MUCH OF AN ISSUE.

IF YOU COULD KINDLY ALLEVIATE ALL ANXIETY TO THE PROBABILITY OF AN ACCIDENT DUE TO THESE CARS JUST FLYING DOWN ANN STREET WITH A PLACEMENT OF TWO STOP SIGNS, WHICH WOULD FORCE CARS TO SLOW DOWN WHEN APPROACHING THE STOP SIGN.

IN ORDER FOR THESE CARS TO COME TO A COMPLETE STOP WHEN WE FEEL SO MUCH SAFER FOR ALL THE ADULTS AND CHILDREN THAT WE RESIDE RESIDE HERE, WE WOULD APPRECIATE EXTREME.

WE'RE EXTREMELY GRATEFUL AND APPRECIATIVE IF YOU WOULD DO THIS TO THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, CITY MANAGER AND MAYOR.

AGAIN, WE, THE RESIDENTS ARE GRATEFUL TO THE PLAN DEPARTMENT AND THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT FOR DOING THE TRAFFIC COUNT ON AUSTRIAN OF ANN STREET BY THE ELECTORAL LAW.

WE KNEW NOT WARRANT THE TWO STOP SIGNS THAT WE HAVE REQUESTED BY THE SPOODLE LAW.

WE SINCERELY HOPE YOU GRANT OUR REQUEST, THEREBY ENHANCING THE SAFETY AND THE PROTECTION AND THE SECURITY OF OUR OVERALL BEAUTIFUL AND HARMONIOUS COMMUNITY OF ANN STREET.

THANKS VERY MUCH.

THAT'S, THAT'S DISGUSTING.

THANK YOU, SIR RUTH THORTON.

GOOD AFTERNOON.

UM, I HAVE A LUNG DISEASE, SO IF YOU CAN'T HEAR ME, I'M SORRY.

AND I DON'T SPEAK IN PUBLIC.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE I'M HERE, UM, TO START WITH, WE DON'T HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE IN OUR AREA OF TOWN.

STEVE AND BEN BOTH HAVE MADE AN EFFORT TO GIVE US INFORMATION AND GIVE US SOME SUPPORT IN OUR AREA OF TOWN.

SO WE DO APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT I DON'T THINK YOU'RE DISTRICTING MADE ANY SENSE BECAUSE WE'VE NEVER HAD A REPRESENTATIVE.

THERE'S NO ONE

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RUNNING FOR IT NOW.

SO IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.

UM, WE USED TO HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY STILL HAVE THEM.

I USED TO GO TO THEM.

I THOUGHT THEY WERE INFORMATIVE AND GOOD.

SO IF YOU ARE NOT HAVING THEM ANYMORE, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.

UM, I'M SHOCKED ABOUT OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT WE ARE AS SHORTHANDED AS WE ARE AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE CHIEF OF POLICE THINKS ABOUT THAT.

I MEAN IT SEEMS LIKE WE NEED TO BEEF THAT UP A LITTLE BIT OR A LOT AND I, I'M VERY CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT HE THINKS AND WHAT HIS INPUT WOULD BE.

UM, THE HOMELESS PROBLEM AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, IS COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTROL, OUT OF CONTROL.

AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE RESOURCES OUT THERE.

I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S ACTUALLY HITTING THE STREETS.

LIKE IT COULD BE AND SHOULD BE.

THERE'S, IT'S, THERE'S TOO MUCH, THERE'S TOO MANY OUT THERE AND IF YOU DON'T SEE THAT OR YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT, CALL ME UP.

I'LL TAKE YOU FOR A DRIVE.

I CAN SHOW YOU A LOT OF AREAS THAT ARE WORSE.

AND AT SOME POINT SOMEONE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT WE'VE HELPED 47 PEOPLE.

THAT'S NOTHING.

THAT'S A DROP IN THE BUCKET BECAUSE YOU AREN'T COUNTING THE HOMELESS CORRECTLY.

IN MY OPINION.

IF YOU'RE IN YOUR CAR OR IN A MOTEL OR COUCH SURFING, YOU'RE NOT COUNTED IN THAT HOMELESS NUMBER.

AND THAT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE.

UM, ANYWAY, I THINK WE NEED TO HELP THE PEOPLE BEFORE THEY BECOME HOMELESS AND HELP THE PEOPLE WHO WANT HELP.

I KNOW THERE'S PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT HELP.

WE ALL KNOW THAT.

SO GIVE THEM A CHANCE AND HELP THE ONES WHO WANT HELP.

AND IF WE NEED TO, MAYBE WE NEED TO DUPLICATE THAT TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER IN ANOTHER PART OF TOWN.

START ANOTHER ONE.

MAYBE IF THEY'RE THAT SUCCESSFUL, THEN WE NEED TO LISTEN TO THEM AND HAVE THEM HELP US TO HELP THE PROBLEM.

ANYWAY, THAT'S NOT ALL I HAD TO SAY, BUT I'M OUT OF TIME.

I ALSO PUT IN SOME MORE PORTA-POTTIES AND CLEAN THEM.

THE ONES AT WILL'S PARK ARE OVERFLOWING.

AND WHAT'S THE POINT? THE BATHROOMS ARE LOCKED AND THE AND THE PART OF PIES ARE OVERFLOWING ONTO THE GRASS AND THE SIDEWALK.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR BODY.

THANK YOU MA'AM.

OKAY, GARY, TO YOUR RIGHT OVER HERE.

OH, STEVE.

RUTH.

I HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS.

THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON NOVEMBER 6TH, WE'LL BE HEARING AN APPLICATION BY EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER TO ADD TWO BUILDINGS ON THEIR PROPERTY FOR 50 BEDS.

THOSE WILL BE DORM STYLE BEDS.

THEIR INTENT IS TO MOVE PEOPLE OUT OF SOME OF THE MOTEL ROOMS ON THEIR PROPERTY, THE SINGLE PEOPLE INTO THOSE DORM STYLE BEDS.

AND IT WILL ALLOW EASY TLC TO TAKE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN CARS OFF THE STREETS OF EL CAHONE INTO THERE.

SO IF YOU HAVE AN OPINION AND YOU WANT TO COME TO THE NOVEMBER 6TH PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING, NOVEMBER 6TH, TUESDAY NIGHT, YOU CAN RELAY YOUR COMMENTS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION, HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THE PROJECT.

WE HAVE SEVEN MORE SPEAKERS.

THE NEXT ONE IS LINDA LOHRENZ.

HELLO, MY NAME IS LINDA LAWRENCE.

UM, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR 39 YEARS IN ELICA HOME AND, UM, I'M SEEING A PROBLEM THAT'S COME UP PROBABLY WITHIN THE LAST YEAR, UM, TO WHERE I CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S HAPPENING, BUT IT'S PEOPLE GOING THROUGH RED LIGHTS AT CERTAIN INTERSECTIONS OF TOWN AND MAINLY IT'S AT WASHINGTON AND MOLLISON AND WASHINGTON AND HAMMER SHAW.

THIS IS WHERE I'VE NOTICED MOST OF IT.

UM, IT'S VERY DISTURBING.

UM, IT, UM,

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IT AFFECTS ALL OF US.

I MEAN, IF WE GET OUT THERE, IF YOU DON'T WAIT, LIKE I TALKED TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY SAID, WAIT THREE SECONDS BEFORE YOU GO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOUR, WHEN YOUR LIGHT TURNS GREEN.

UM, BUT THEY ARE NOT RUNNING THROUGH YELLOW CAUTION LIGHTS.

THEY'RE RUNNING THROUGH RED LIGHTS.

AND SO, UM, IT'S VERY OBVIOUS AND VERY CONCERNING TO ME.

UM, WE DO HAVE, UM, CAMERAS IN THOSE LOCATIONS THAT WE'VE TURNED OFF AND I GONE INTO CALLING DIFFERENT, UM, ORGANIZATIONS AND FINDING OUT THE REASONS, BUT I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO TURN HIM BACK ON BECAUSE IF PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY RUN A RED LIGHT, WE'VE GOT THE PICTURE AND THEIR LICENSE AND THEY'RE GOING TO GET TICKETED.

SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE HAVE, UH, THE MEANS OF STOPPING THIS AND WE'RE NOT USING IT.

UM, ANOTHER THING IS WE DON'T, UM, I'VE BEEN ON WASHINGTON FOR ALL THE WAY.

I'LL COME BOULEVARD TO A SHOP AT NIGHT AND I CAN'T, THERE'S NO REFLECTORS ON THE STREET, SO I DON'T KNOW, PLANNING COMMISSION OR TRAFFIC OR DIVISION, WHOEVER TAKES CARE OF THAT.

BUT, UM, IT'S, IT'S REALLY BAD.

I MEAN, I CAN'T, I'M ONLY, I'M NOT THAT OLD, BUT I CAN'T, I CAN'T SEE TO DRIVE.

IT'S, IT'S REALLY BAD.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE HAD THEM AND THEY'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, TAKEN OUT OR I JUST DON'T SEE ANYTHING DIVIDING THE STREET AT ALL.

SO THAT'S A PROBLEM.

TO STIMULATE OUR AGING BODIES.

PROBABLY MY TIME IS ALMOST UP.

I STILL HAVE A MINUTE.

WELL, ANYWAY, UM, I'M JUST LOOKING OUT FOR THE SAFETY OF ALL OF US HERE.

IT'S, IT'S A BIG PROBLEM.

AND I KNOW THE CITY OF ENCINITAS DOES HAVE THEIR, UM, THEIR CAMERAS TURNED ON.

SO IT JUST DEPENDS ON CITIES AND WE NEED TO VOTE YES.

UM, TO HAVE OUR, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S EQUIPPED TO HELP THE PROBLEM.

SO WE NEED TO GET WITH THE PROGRAM.

HOW ARE YOU TODAY? I'M GOOD.

HOW ARE YOU? GOOD.

AND GRAHAM, ARE YOU MR. MITCHELL? I NOW YOU'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE.

ANGER IS A NORMAL HUMAN REACTION TO HARASSMENT, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S PURPOSELY DONE TO GET REACTION ON VIDEO TO GET PEOPLE IN TROUBLE AND THEN IT BECOMES ENTRAPMENT.

I CALL IT COUNTY AND TRAPMAN.

I'M DROPPING THE F BOMB IS NOT AGAINST THE LAW.

WHAT'S AGAINST THE LAW IS HATE CRIMES AND RETALIATION.

EXCUSE ME, ITALIAN AGAINST WHISTLEBLOWERS, WHICH I, YOU KNOW I AM.

I HATE.

CRIME IS NOT NECESSARILY ABOUT RACISM.

IT CAN BE AGAINST SOMEONE WHO WON'T GIVE INTO THE, INTO A RELIGION OR A POLITICAL PARTY.

IT CAN BE AGAINST SOMEONE WHO IS HOMELESS AND WON'T GIVE INTO THE GOVERNMENT BS OR DO SSI FROG.

I'LL DO NEITHER.

AND SO HAVING SAID THAT, THIS IS WHY I STILL LOVE LEMON GROVE, BUT THIS WHY I RUN AWAY TO ALCOHOL.

I LOVE THIS.

THIS WAS AWESOME.

THIS WAS SO AWESOME.

THIS WAS THE BEST, THE BEST TIME THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAD.

SO THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? GRAHAM, I HAVE SOMETHING FOR YOU, SIMONA.

VOLUN SUTA GOOD AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES WITH YOU.

MY NAME IS SIMONA AND I'M REPRESENTING SAN DIEGO OASIS, THE LARGEST NONPROFIT WHICH ENGAGES PEOPLE WHO ARE 50 AND OLDER IN SUCCESSFUL AGING.

ABOUT A YEAR AGO WE MOVED TO THE CITY OF LA MESA AND WE'VE BEEN IN EAST COUNTY EVER SINCE AND WE HAVE VERY PROUD OF THE WORK WE'VE DONE WITH OLDER ADULTS.

SO I'M HERE TO INVITE YOU TO AN EVENT AND TELL YOU IN A FEW SECONDS OF WHAT WE DO AND WHY THAT IS IMPORTANT.

YOU MAY KNOW THAT WE ARE IN THIS TOWN, THE NEIGHBORING TOWN, THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTRY ARE AGING IN UNPRECEDENTED NUMBERS AND WE ALL SHOULD ENGAGE IN PRACTICES THAT ENCOURAGE HEALTHY AGING AND SUCCESSFUL AGING.

SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN OUT OASIS? WE DO THREE THINGS EVERY DAY WITH OLDER ADULTS.

NUMBER ONE, WE RUN A SENIOR UNIVERSITY TO STIMULATE THE MIND.

WE PROVIDE CLASSES IN ART, TECHNOLOGY, PHILOSOPHY, LOTS OF HEALTHY AGING CLASSES

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WE ALSO TRAIN OLDER ADULTS TO WORK WITH LOW INCOME CHILDREN, INCLUDING IN EL CAHONE AND OTHER TENNIS SCHOOL DISTRICTS.

SO WE REALLY ARE BRINGING THE GENERATIONS TOGETHER.

I'M HERE TODAY TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE IN A IN A FEW WEEKS ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER THE 12TH WE'RE HAVING A TECHNOLOGY FAIR FOR OLDER ADULTS.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS TO MAKE THIS EVENT FREE OF CHARGE AS WE USUALLY DO IT.

SO WE HAVE LOTS OF CORPORATE SPONSORS THAT PROVIDE THIS FREE DAY OFF TECHNOLOGY LEARNING FOR ANYONE WHO'S 50 AND OLDER.

SO ALL DAY LONG WE WILL BE HAVING SESSIONS ON VIRTUAL REALITY AND HOW THAT WILL CHANGE OUR LIVES.

WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT LOW VISION ON THE TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO ANYONE EXPERIENCING LOWER VISION AS WE AGE TO HELP THEM.

WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT WHAT IS THE CLOUD AND AM I ON IT.

WE WILL BE DISCUSSING, I'M READY TO BUY A SMART PHONE.

SHOULD I LOOK AT ANDROID OR IPHONE? YOU GET THE IDEA.

WE WILL BE COVERING DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGY TOPICS THAT ARE EVERYDAY TOPICS TO HELP ALL OF US WHO MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT UNCOMFORTABLE ABOUT TECHNOLOGY OR JUST NEED THAT LITTLE BIT, EXPLAIN IT TO ME AS AN OLDER ADULT IN TERMS AND IN WAYS I CAN UNDERSTAND.

I HAVE A BROCHURE FOR EACH OF YOU AND WITH YOUR PERMISSION I'LL DISTRIBUTE THOSE.

BUT AGAIN, WE WOULD LOVE TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE WHO'S 50 AND OLDER TO COME AND CHECK OUT OASIS.

WE ARE INSIDE THE GROSSMONT CENTER MALL, RIGHT IN LA MESA.

PARKING IS FREE AND WE'RE OPEN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AND PLEASE HELP US SPREAD THE WORD.

IT'S A FREE DAY OF TECHNOLOGY FOR ANYONE WHO'S OLDER.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER.

FORMER SPEAKER SIR.

UH, THE NEXT ONE IS ERIC LUND.

AWESOME MEMBERS, MAYOR PRO TEM, GARY KENDRICK AND OUR STAFF.

UM, I WANT TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THESE COUNTY HOMELESS TASK FORCE AND THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT THINGS GOING ON.

I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT WE JUST PRODUCED 2,500 HAND POCKET GUIDES SO THAT WE CAN HELP ASSIST PEOPLE WITH WHERE SERVICES ARE IN THE AREA.

UM, I FORGOT TO BRING SOME WITH ME CAUSE I JUST THOUGHT OF THAT, BUT I WILL BRING THEM AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.

UH, IT'S A NICE GUY THAT REALLY PULLS OUT AND IT HAS A TON OF SERVICES.

UM, PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE, I THINK HOW MUCH THERE IS AVAILABLE IN OUR EAST COUNTY REGION, ESPECIALLY IN OUR FORCE KEY CITIES OUT HERE IN EAST COUNTY AS WELL AS IN THE COUNTY AREA.

UH, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF SERVICES.

UH, ALSO I WANT TO MENTION AND INVITE ANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE PUBLIC, OH LOOK IT, SHE BROUGHT HIM HERE THEY ARE.

THAT'S ANNA MARIE.

SO SHE'S OUR ART DIRECTOR AND SHE'S HELPING US WITH THINGS.

SO SHE DOES A GREAT JOB TOO.

THANKS ANNA MARIE.

SO ANYWAY, TOMORROW WE ARE HAVING ONE OF OUR GENERAL SESSION MEETINGS.

IT'S GOING TO BE AT SKYLINE CHURCH AND IF YOU GUYS KNOW WHERE THAT IS, IT'S ACTUALLY IN LA MESA EVEN THOUGH IT FEELS LIKE KIND OF RANCHO SAN DIEGO AREA.

UM, IT'S RIGHT BY THE 94 THERE AND IT'S GOING TO BE AT 9:00 AM TOMORROW MORNING.

SO WE INVITE THE PUBLIC, UH, THE COUNCIL AND, UH, OUR CITY STAFF TO PLEASE COME IN AT 10.

AGAIN, THIS IS THE NEW GUIDE.

IT ISN'T PRETTY SMALL PRINT, SO, UH, BUT THERE'S SO MANY SERVICES ON HERE.

IT'S REALLY GREAT.

AND WE'RE ALSO DOING A SUPPORTING A WEBSITE THAT'S GOING TO HELP, UH, MAKE THIS STRENGTHENED US, UM, WHICH IS BEING DONE BY THE EL CAHONE COLLABORATIVE.

SO WE'RE ACTUALLY CONTRACTING WITH THEM TO HELP HAVE THEM HELP US WITH THAT WEBSITE.

UM, I DID WANT TO MENTION ALSO THAT UM, YES, THE EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER IS HAVING THAT HEARING.

SO THANKS FOR ANNOUNCING THAT.

I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO SUPPORT OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS OUT THERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WORKING AS HARD AS THEY CAN TO TRY TO SOLVE THIS HOMELESS ISSUE.

IT'S NOT JUST A SIMPLE, HERE'S THE SOLUTION PROBLEM.

THERE HAS TO BE A MULTIFACETED APPROACH TO IT.

WE'VE GOT ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND IT IS A REALLY A CHALLENGE.

IT'S A HUGE CHALLENGE FOR EVERY CITY AND I THINK EVERY CITY HAS TO DEAL WITH IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.

AND I'M REALLY PROUD OF HOW HE'S COUNTY HAS STEPPED UP.

AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT US AND WATCHING WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THEY'RE PRETTY IMPRESSED WITH A LOT OF THE DIFFERENT IDEAS AND SOLUTIONS AND PROGRAMS THAT WE'VE COME UP WITH.

SO COME TO TOMORROW'S MEETING, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT OUTREACH AND OUTREACH TEAMS. WE'VE DEVELOPED POLICIES AND A WHOLE PROGRAM AROUND THAT.

SO THAT'S WHAT OUR FOCUS WILL BE TOMORROW.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN, I KNOW THAT YOU PUBLISHED AND TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE, BUT GIVING SOMEBODY MONEY THAT'S HOMELESS OR FOOD JUST ENABLES THEM TO BE ON THE STREET LONGER AND THEY AREN'T GOING TO GO TO ONE OF THESE AGENCIES.

IT CAN ACTUALLY GIVE THEM, HELP THEM GET THEM OFF THE STREET, LIKE ELOCON

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SO I HOPE THAT PEOPLE WILL TAKE THAT TO HEART.

AND UM, I WOULD RATHER THAN GIVE YOU THEIR MONEY TO ELOCON TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER OR A ONE OF THESE OR ORGANIZATIONS, IT ACTUALLY DOES HELP GET PA PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS.

SO ANYWAY, IF YOU JUST, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE WATCHING ON TELEVISION OR IN THE AUDIENCE, JUST REMEMBER THAT, THAT WHEN YOU GIVE SOMEBODY MONEY, YOU'RE JUST ENABLING THEM TO GO OUT AND DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH IT.

CIGARETTES, ALCOHOL, DRUGS, WHATEVER.

SO, UH, KEEP THAT IN MIND.

THANK YOU, MR MCCLELLAN.

THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT POINT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THIS, BUT THERE ARE 135 CHILDREN LIVING OUT AT THE EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER THAT WERE FORMERLY HOMELESS.

SO THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB OUT THERE.

ERICA SALEM.

HI, MY NAME IS ERICA SALEM AND I WANT TO START OFF BY SAYING THAT I DON'T USUALLY SPEAK PUBLICLY, EVER.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER ADDRESSED A COUNCIL MEETING.

I'VE LIVED IN OKLAHOMA IN THE PAST 10 YEARS AND I'VE NEVER FELT THE NEED TO COME HERE AND EVER TALK ABOUT ANYONE OR ANYTHING.

BUT THE INTERACTION I HAD WITH MR COLLAGIO WAS VERY DISTURBING.

UM, AS A CONSTITUENT AND A WOMAN, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO COMMENT ON HIS SOCIAL MEDIA AND STATE MY OPINION.

I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING OUT OF LINE TO WARRANT THE RESPONSE THAT I GOT.

I COULDN'T BELIEVE HOW NASTY HE GOT.

HOW? I MEAN, I WAS SHOCKED.

EVEN THOUGH I'VE HEARD A LOT OF THINGS ABOUT HIM.

YOU DON'T KNOW UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE IT.

AND I KNOW A GENTLEMAN EARLIER SAID HE'S SICK OF BEN BASHING, BUT HE'S BRINGING IT IN UPON HIMSELF.

I'M ATTACKING MY LOOKS ATTACKING ME AS A MOTHER CALLING ME STUPID, ATTACKING MY EDUCATION LEVEL.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT IS IT OKAY FOR A COUNCIL MEMBER IN OKLAHOMA.

I LIVE IN OKLAHOMA AND MY SON GOES TO SCHOOL IN OKLAHOMA AND I SHOP IN EL CAHONE AND I TOLD HIM, DO NOT SERVE THE PEOPLE OF OKLAHOMA.

AND HE SAID, NO, I DON'T SERVE YOU.

I DON'T LIKE YOU.

YOU'RE NOT HUMAN THEN WHY ARE YOU HERE? I'M JUST WONDERING WHY HE'S A COUNCIL MEMBER IF HE'S NOT WILLING TO WORK WITH THE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN EL CAHONE.

EVEN IF I HAD CONCERNS, HE COULD HAVE APPROACHED IT DIFFERENTLY.

YOU KNOW? OH, YOU HEARD STUFF ABOUT ME.

THAT'S NOT TRUE.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT I'M ABOUT.

NO, IT WAS IMMEDIATELY ATTACK.

ATTACK ATTACK.

SO I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS TO JUST PUT THIS ON RECORD BECAUSE I AM AFRAID OF HIM BECAUSE I KNOW HE, YOU KNOW, GOES AFTER PEOPLE, HIM AND HIS WIFE.

I GOT AT LEAST FIVE MESSAGES AFTER THIS INCIDENT TELLING ME TO WATCH MY BACK AND BE CAREFUL BECAUSE HE ATTACKS PEOPLE AND HE DOES ALL THESE THINGS TO THEM.

SO I ACTUALLY GOT KIND OF SCARED AND I DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO TALK, BUT I FIGURED I SHOULD AT LEAST PUT THIS ON PUBLIC RECORD IN CASE ANYTHING HAPPENS.

SO THAT'S BASICALLY WHY I DECIDED TO SAY SOMETHING.

AND UM, I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE.

KILIAN COLIN HELLO MAN.

I KNOW YOU DON'T LIKE THIS NAME BECAUSE YOU PRETEND TO BE POLISHED.

NOT CALLED, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT WE, THE CALLED THE COMMUNITY.

I'LL HAPPY THAT YOU'RE NOT ONE OF THEM.

UH, ONE OF US, UH, SO I WAS ON INSTAGRAM AND UM, I SAW THAT, UM, BEST MINI COLLAGE SHOW CALLED, UH, MS ERICA SALIM, UM, ABOUT FACE OR YOUR NATALY HUMANITY, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

SO I RESPONDED TO HIM.

I SAID, FOR SOMEBODY WHO HAS ALL OF THIS BOTOX IN HIS FACE, I'M MAKING, MAKING FUN OF YOUR FACE.

I LOOK AT HIS WIFE, SHE'S MADE OFF PLASTIC SURGERY CAUSE YOU KNOW ALSO, SO SHE CAME AT ME WITH HER HUSBAND CALLING ME THAT I HAD A CRUSH ON A BIG COLOR SHOW THAT I HAVE ADDRESSES IN MY ROOM THAT WHEN I'M WEARING THEM, I'M A CRYING BECAUSE MR COLLAGE NEVER LET ME, YOU KNOW, UH, HIT ON HIM.

YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M JELL BIRD.

IF I WANT A DRESS, I WILL LOOK SO MUCH BETTER THAN YOU.

I'M ORGANIC OR THEY DON'T TALK TO MY WIFE MORGAN STEP IN.

WELL, YOU LOOK MUCH BETTER WHEN YOU'RE QUIET.

THIS HOMOPHOBIC JOKE I BOUGHT WEDDING ADDRESSES IS VERY ALL THEN IT'S NOT FUNNY.

WHICH IS ORGASM, YOU COULDN'T PROVIDE IT TO ME.

AND YOU ARE THE LAST ONE WHO TALKED ABOUT GAY PEOPLE LIKE THAT.

YOU UNDERSTAND? I DON'T HAVE ANY CRUSH ON YOU.

YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE WHENEVER YOU COULDN'T PROVIDE YOUR WIFE,

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YOU'RE TOO FULL OF YOURSELF.

YOU'RE TOO FULL OF BOTOX.

YOU ARE TOO FULL OF SHIT.

AND I INVITE YOU TO GO TO THE FRONT OF MARCUS HERE IN OKLAHOMA, WHICH IS BUILT BY .

WHEN YOU'RE QUIET, I INVITE YOU TO GO TO ALL THE FARMER MARKETS AND ALCOHOL ON BUILT BY HARDWORKING REFUGEES.

I LOOK FOR AN ORGANIC LOCALLY GROWN CUCUMBER AND BUY ONE AND GO FUCK YOURSELF WITH YOU.

GOT A HOMOPHOBE YOU SHOULD NEVER REPRESENT OUR CITY.

SO AYE WHEN YOU WERE SPEAKING I'LL BE QUIET.

THAT'S BECAUSE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE ISSUES.

WE'VE GOT TO GET HIM OUT OF HERE.

ENFORCE THE LAW.

I LIKE THIS.

SIR, WE HAVE RECEIVED A FEW MORE CARDS.

SO NOW WE STILL HAVE THREE SPEAKERS.

THE NEXT ONE IS ANNA MARIE BACONE.

HELLO, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, CITY STAFF, UM, MAYOR PRO TEM.

UM, SORRY TO HAVE TO HAVE GONE AFTER THAT.

GENTLEMEN.

UM, I, WHILE I, WHILE I, WHILE I REALLY APPRECIATE, GIVE, GIVE THE SPEAKER RESPECT, LET HER SPEAK.

PLEASE GO AHEAD MA'AM.

PLEASE START THE CLOCK AGAIN.

THE PART I APPRECIATE ABOUT GOVERNMENT IS THAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO SPEAK HERE AND I HOPE AND PRAY FOR ALL OF YOU AND FOR THE REST OF US IN THE COMMUNITY, THAT WHEN WE COME UP HERE, WE WILL BE RESPECTFUL TO EVERYONE.

UH, OUT OF THE DIGNITY OF THE HUMAN PERSON.

ALL OF US ARE DIGNIFIED, NO MATTER WHO WE ARE AND HOW WE ARE.

SO I PRAY GOING FORWARD THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN.

WHAT I WANTED TO SAY WAS I AM THE PROJECT COORDINATOR FOR THE EAST COUNTY HOMELESS TASK FORCE AND I WORK WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT, OUTREACH WORKERS, BUSINESSES, CITY STAFF, INCLUDING THE CITY STAFF OF EL CAHONE, LA MESA, LEMON GROVE IN SANTI.

I WORK WITH COUNTY, THE COUNTY.

I WORK WITH BEHAVIORAL HEALTH.

I WORK WITH GROSSMONT HOSPITAL, SCHOOL DISTRICTS, COLLEGES, UNIVERSITIES, CITIZENS AND MANY, MANY MORE PEOPLE TO CREATE SOLUTIONS AND STRATEGIES FOR HOMELESSNESS.

I WANT TO SAY THAT, UM, FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN HOUSED BECAUSE OF THE COLLABORATIVE RELATIONSHIPS OF THE TASK FORCE, UM, THOSE PEOPLE ARE HAPPY AND THEY MAY BE ONE OR TWO OR 40 OR, OR HOWEVER MANY THEY ARE.

BUT THOSE, EACH OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE HAPPY BECOMING HOUSED BECAUSE OF THE RELATIONSHIPS OF THE TASK FORCE.

THE COLLABORATIONS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE COME THROUGH THE TASK FORCE ARE VERY BENEFICIAL.

AND WHILE I REALIZE WE HAVE NOT SOLVED HOMELESSNESS AT THIS POINT, UH, BY COLLABORATING, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO COMBINE OUR EFFORTS, UM, LOTS OF VOLUNTEER EFFORTS BUT COMBINED OUR EFFORTS TO HOUSE PEOPLE, TO MAKE RESOURCES KNOWN, TO UM, TO HAVE LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OUTREACH WORKERS GO OUT TO THE ENCAMPMENTS.

UM, OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT HERE IN EL CAHONE, LA MESA AND ALSO THE SHERIFFS HAVE DONE AN AMAZING JOB AND SPENT A LOT OF TIME WITH OUR TASK FORCE AND OUT IN THE COMMUNITY FOR HOMELESSNESS.

UM, SO I JUST WANT TO UM, SPEAK HEARTEDLY ABOUT THAT AND TELL YOU THAT THERE IS MUCH MORE GOOD THINGS TO COME.

AS LONG AS WE CONTINUE TO HAVE SUPPORT, WE STILL NEED A LOT OF SKILLS ON THE TASK FORCE.

UM, I WILL TAKE PARTIAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE LACK OF, UM, PUBLICITY AND PROMOTION ABOUT WHAT WE'VE DONE.

UM, I THINK THAT I COULD USE SOMEONE WHO DOES PROMOTIONS REGULARLY TO BE SIDE BY SIDE WITH ME THAT MIGHT WANT TO DO A BETTER JOB THAN I CAN OF PUBLICIZING WHAT WE ARE DOING AND WHAT IS TO COME.

SO I, UM, I HOPE FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR THE TASK FORCE AND I'M THANKFUL FOR THE CHAMBER, UH, FOR THE CITY, UH, THE CITY STAFFS, THE COUNTY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR ASSISTING US IN THE EFFORT.

YOU WELL, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO.

YOU'RE SAVING LIVES.

AND IN FACT, I HAVE TWO GRADUATES OF THE EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER, THE LID TO MY HOUSE FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS AND THEY'RE WONDERFUL AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYONE THAT HAS AN EXTRA ROOM TO GIVE SOMEONE A CHANCE.

EVERYBODY DESERVES A SECOND CHANCE.

AFTERNOON COUNCIL MEMBERS.

JAMES ELLIA

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I WANTED TO, UH, THANK THE CITY FOR HAWK FEST THIS PAST WEEKEND.

UM, I WANT TO THANK LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR SETTLING THE MAYBE 300 LITTLE FENDER BENDERS THAT PEOPLE GOT INTO.

YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB.

UM, THERE WERE A LOT OF STRUGGLING FAMILIES THAT CAME OUT TO THE EVENT THAT NEEDED THAT.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS PUTTING IT ON.

WE WERE SO MOTIVATED.

WE PUT A TABLE OUTSIDE OF OUR OFFICE AND WE HANDED OUT 300 MINI FLAGS IN 300 MINI CONSTITUTIONS TO KIDS.

SO IF YOU SAW A BUNCH OF KIDS RUN AROUND WITH LITTLE FLAGS THAT YOUR BOY RIGHT HERE.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I WISH I COULD JUST COME AND GIVE YOU GUYS THANKS.

AND THAT'S IT.

BUT UM, AS MANY OTHER COUNCIL MEETINGS, I'M HERE TO ADDRESS A MAJOR ISSUE TO THE CITY.

UH, I FIND IT DEPRESSINGLY MYOPIC THAT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO REPEAT THE SAME ISSUES OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

UH, BEN, I REALLY MADE A PLEAD TO YOU THE LAST CITY COUNCIL MEETING AND I'M BEING GENUINE THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT YOU.

UH, THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING I SERVED YOU WITH A LAWSUIT FOR HARASSING A WOMAN ONLINE.

I'M HERE AGAIN BECAUSE OVER THE WEEKEND YOU HARASSED ANOTHER WOMAN ONLINE.

I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR MOTIVATION IS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU GET OUT OF IT.

I DON'T KNOW THE THRILL YOU SEEK OUT OF IT, BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING ANY PUBLIC OFFICIAL OR ANY MAN SHOULD BE DOING.

AND I DON'T THINK YOU CAN CALL YOURSELF A MAN IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU CAN BELITTLE WOMEN LIKE THAT.

WOMEN ARE STRONG, THEY DESERVE RESPECT REGARDLESS IF YOU LIKE THEM OR NOT.

THE BEST THING YOU CAN DO IS NOT RESPOND.

BEING IN THE BEING, BEING IN THE PUBLIC LIGHT.

I GET SAID A LOT OF THINGS TO MYSELF AS WELL AND THE BEST THING I CAN DO IS KEEP QUIET ABOUT IT.

COUNSEL, I KNOW YOU GUYS DO EVERYTHING THAT YOU CAN, UM, TO TRY AND UPHOLD SOME SORT OF HONOR TO UPHOLD SOME UM, LEGITIMACY TO THE SEAT.

BUT DON'T BE OFFENDED WHEN SOMEONE COMES UP HERE AND IS PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT, HOW THEY SPEAK AND THEY LOSE THEIR TEMPER AND THEY CURSE AND THEY SAY THINGS.

DON'T BE UPSET WITH THAT PERSON.

BE UPSET WITH THE SUBJECT TO WHY THEY'RE HERE.

WE HAVE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE THROUGH THE ROOF RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN ATTACKED BY A CITY OFFICIAL.

THAT'S A PROBLEM.

THE LANGUAGE DOESN'T OFFEND ME.

WHAT OFFENDS ME IS THAT WE SEEM TO BE HELPLESS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

YOU KNOW, THEN WE'VE TRIED PLEADING WITH YOU, WE TRIED ASKING YOU, WE'VE TRIED PUTTING PRESSURE ON YOU.

WE'VE TRIED EVERYTHING AND IT DOESN'T WORK.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE HAVE TO DO TO GET YOU TO JUST LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE AND DO YOUR JOB.

YOU KNOW, YOU SAID SEVERAL TIMES, I'M OLD, I'M NOT YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER.

UH, YOU ARE, YOU'RE EVERYBODY'S COUNCIL MEMBER.

JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE DISTRICT, IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU DON'T REPRESENT THE CITY AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.

UH, YOU KNOW, SHOULD YOU BE SUCCESSFUL AND YOU AND YOUR REELECTION.

I HOPE YOU BRING SOME MORE HONOR OR SOMETHING BACK TO THE SEAT.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO SUPPORT MR GARY KENDRICK.

I DON'T THINK YOU'RE FIT TO CERT THE, TO SIT THERE AND YOU'VE SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN, YOU DON'T REPRESENT PEOPLE.

YOU DON'T REPRESENT THE CITY AND YOU DON'T REPRESENT CONSTITUENTS.

HE DOES.

AND HE CARES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

OUR COUNCIL, MAYOR PRO TEM AND STAFF.

I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO REMIND EVERYONE ABOUT A VERY SPECIAL EVENT COMING UP NEXT MONTH.

OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING ISN'T TILL NOVEMBER 13TH BUT WELL BEFORE THAT ON NOVEMBER 11TH THAT IS VETERAN'S DAY AND EACH YEAR OUR RECREATION DEPARTMENT WHO DID SUCH A GREAT JOB WITH HAN FEST AND AMERICA AND MAIN STREET AND ALL THE OTHER EVENTS, THEY ALSO PUT ON A VERY WONDERFUL EVENT.

IT'S THE VETERANS DAY CEREMONY AND THAT WILL BE ON SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 11TH AT 1:00 PM HERE AT CENTENNIAL PLAZA RIGHT IN FRONT OF CITY HALL.

SO THE ADDRESS YOU'LL SEE IS THE CITY HALL 200 CIVIC CENTER WAY.

BUT AGAIN IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF CITY HALL AND THAT'S WHERE THEY HOLD AGAIN A VERY CEREMONY DEDICATED TO OUR VETERANS AND ALL THEY HAVE DONE FOR US FOR OUR FREEDOM.

SO I HOPE YOU'LL COME OUT AGAIN SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 11TH AT 1:00 PM BE ADVISED THAT ON NOVEMBER 12TH THE FOLLOWING MONDAY IS A HOLIDAY FOR OUR CITY OFFICES.

AND THEN AGAIN, OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING WILL BE NOVEMBER 13TH AND I HOPE TO SEE EVERYONE THERE.

THANK YOU MONICA.

ITEM 12 IS A RESOLUTION TO DECLARE A SHELTER CRISIS.

THERE ARE NO MORE SPEAKERS.

THERE ARE NO WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS.

NO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

[12. Resolution to Declare a Shelter Crisis RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council adopts a RESOLUTION declaring a shelter crisis as a requirement to apply for Homeless Emergency Aid Program funding.]

OH, ASK STAFF TO PLEASE INTRODUCE THE ITEM.

GOOD AFTERNOON, MR MAYOR PRO TEM AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

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THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA RECENTLY ANNOUNCED AN ALLOCATION OF ONE TIME MONEY TO BE USED FOR HOMELESS, UH, FOR HOUSING HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS.

THESE GRANT FUNDS REFER TO AS HOMELESS EMERGENCY AID PROGRAM OR, OR HEAP WILL BE DISTRIBUTED THROUGH, UM, TO SAN DIEGO COUNTY THROUGH THE SAN DIEGO REGIONAL TASK FORCE ON HOMELESSNESS.

A TOTAL OF ALMOST $19 MILLION HAS BEEN ALLOCATED SPECIFICALLY TO GO TO JURISDICTIONS WITHIN OUR COUNTY.

UM, AND WE'RE ELIGIBLE FOR THOSE FUNDS AS LONG AS WE, UH, UH, JUMPED THROUGH A FEW HOOPS, I'LL SAY HAD THIS LAST TIME.

WELL, WE'LL MOVE ON.

UM, THESE GRANT FUNDS.

THERE WE GO.

THESE GRANT FUNDS CAN BE USED FOR EMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHERS FOR HOUSING ASSISTANCE SUBSIDIES THAT WE'VE, UM, THAT WE CURRENTLY PROVIDE OUR A HOUSING NAVIGATOR HOUSING LOCATORS, RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAMS AND THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN EMERGENCY SHELTER.

UH, AS MS THORTON ACTUALLY RECOMMENDED, WE CONSIDER, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON RIGHT NOW IS SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK REGIONALLY WITH UM, THE OTHER CITIES, THE COUNTY, UH, WITH THE EAST COUNTY, UM, HOMELESS TASK FORCE TO, TO USE OUR, UM, COMBINED EFFORTS TO APPLY FOR THESE FUNDS AND TO DO SOMETHING MORE ON A REGIONAL BASIS, INCLUDING CONSTRUCTING A HOMELESS SHELTER WITH AN WITHIN THE UNINCORPORATED COUNTY AREAS.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO AS PART OF THIS, UM, TO BE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE THESE FUNDS IS TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION THAT STATES THAT THERE IS A SHELTER, A SH, UH, SHELTER CRISIS.

IT RESTATES OUR POINT IN TIME COUNT HOMELESS NUMBERS AND THEN IT ALSO AUTHORIZES THE CITY TO APPLY FOR THESE FUNDS IN THE FUTURE AS THEY BECOME AVAILABLE.

UM, RIGHT NOW STAFF DOES NOT HAVE A GRANT PROPOSAL.

A, AGAIN, WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BEST, UM, ACCESS FUNDS AND TO MAXIMIZE THOSE FUNDS.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU FIND INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA PACKET.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS COUNCILMAN GOEBEL? MR CITY MANAGER.

I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE OUR CITY TO WORK WITH SANTEE LA MESA, LEMON GROVE AND IF THERE'S A WAY TO COMBINE THE GRANT MONEY AVAILABLE TO ALL THOSE CITIES SINCE HOMELESSNESS IS A REGIONAL PROBLEM, NOT REGIONAL HOMELESSNESS IS A REGIONAL PROBLEM, NOT THE PEOPLE, THE HOMELESSNESS.

UH, IF WE COULD COMBINE THOSE MONIES, WE MAY GET MORE ECONOMIES OF SCALE.

I AND, AND OUR ENCOURAGED CITY STAFF TO DO THAT.

MR GOBLE.

THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION.

WE'VE ACTUALLY, THE CITY MANAGERS OF ALL FOUR CITIES HAVE MET AND DISCUSS THAT AS A STRATEGY.

UH, WE'VE PITCHED THAT CONCEPT TO THE REGIONAL TASK FORCE ON THE HOMELESSNESS AND THEY BELIEVE THAT THAT EFFORT WILL PROBABLY RESULT IN MORE MONEY COMING OUR WAY THAN IF WE WERE TO APPLY INDIVIDUALLY.

ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO CARDS, SIR.

AWESOME.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER? OH, COUNCIL MEMBER COLLAGIO GRAHAM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, JUST SORT OF UNPACKING WHAT STEVE SAID, UH, IN THAT I, I GUESS I, YOU SAID THAT WE WOULD BE GETTING MORE MONEY IF IT'S, UH, IF IT'S IN A BUNDLE THROUGH THE GRANT, HOW WOULD THAT, HOW IS, HOW IS THAT, UM, TRUE.

SO EACH, EACH CITY, THERE'S NOT AN ALLOCATION FOR EACH CITY SO THAT 18 POINT $8 MILLION ISN'T GOING TO BE DISTRIBUTED EVENLY AMONGST CITIES.

UM, HOWEVER, WE KNOW THAT THE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE REGIONAL TASK FORCE WANTS TO DO IS HAVE STRATEGIES THAT CROSS BOUNDARIES AND UM, SO, SO IS NOT DOING ONE THING AND LA MESA IS DOING A COMPLETELY SEPARATE THING AND MAYBE EVEN A COUNTERPRODUCTIVE THING FROM WHAT ALCOHOL IS DOING.

BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT HOMELESSNESS CROSSES BOUNDARIES.

A HOMELESS PERSON DOESN'T SAY, OH, I GOT TO STOP HERE BECAUSE THE CITY, THE CITY LIMITS ARE HERE.

THE REGIONAL TASK FORCE IS TRYING TO ENCOURAGE THIS MORE REGIONAL APPROACH.

BECAUSE OF THAT, THEY'VE INDICATED THAT THEY FEEL THAT PROGRAMS THAT, THAT TRANSCEND THOSE BOUNDARIES ARE THINGS THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO GIVE MORE MONEY TO.

AT THE END OF THE DAY.

REMEMBER THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO, IF, IF NO ONE ELSE WERE TO APPLY FOR MONEY, THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO WILL TAKE ALL 18 POINT $8 MILLION ALONG WITH THE COUNTY.

AND SO US HAVING A BIGGER VOICE JOINTLY, WE'LL GET MORE MONEY, FRANKLY FROM THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO.

SO IF I'M LOOKING AT IT AS A PIE THAT'S, THAT'S GIVEN REGIONALLY WHO, WHO WOULD THEN DICTATE THE SPLIT OF THE PIE? IS IT BASED ON THE CITY SIZE AND POPULATION

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OR IS IT JUST SPLIT EVENLY? NO, IT'S NOT SPLIT EVENLY OR EVEN UPON, UM, POPULATION.

IT'S WHOEVER THAT MONEY THE BEST AND WHO CAN JUSTIFY THE BEST USE OF THOSE FUNDS? WHO IS THE ULTIMATE DECIDER IN THAT? THE REGIONAL TASK FORCE ON THE HOMELESSNESS.

THE SAN DIEGO REGIONAL TASK FORCE ON THE HOMELESSNESS COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN.

CAN ANY OF THIS MONEY BE USED FOR THE, UM, UM, WINTER SHELTER FOR THE, UH, ELKO AND TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER? UM, I DON'T BELIEVE IT CAN BE USED FOR THAT.

UM, I THINK IT HAS TO BE FRESH SHELTERING.

IT HAS TO BE NEW EMERGENCY SHELTER.

SO THAT'D BE A NEW CONSTRUCTION OR IT CAN BE USED FOR VOUCHERS OR ASSISTANCE.

SO IF THERE IS A VOUCHER PROGRAM TO HELP SOMEONE GETTING INTO AN APARTMENT, THAT WOULD BE ONE THING.

I, I'M PRETTY SURE BASED ON THE LAST MEETING WE HAD WITH THEM THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE.

ECE TLC FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS PROGRAM.

I HAVE A FEE, THEY DO A LOT OF GOOD WORK IN EAST COUNTY, SO ABSOLUTELY.

BUT THE FUNDING IS, IS VERY TAILORED AND PROBABLY DOES NOT FIT IN WITH WITHIN WHAT THE STATE HAS INDICATED IT NEEDS TO DO.

THEY COULD PROBABLY BUY A BUILDING AND DO IT WITH IT.

SOME OF THAT MONEY.

I ABSOLUTELY, AND IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO ENCOURAGE OUTSIDE OF EL CAHONE, UM, AROUND, AROUND OUR NEIGHBORING, UH, JURISDICTIONS, ESPECIALLY IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS.

RIGHT.

SO A GRAM A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT.

SO IF THE, THE TASK FORCE IS THE ONE WHO IS THE DECIDER ULTIMATELY, UM, AND THE TASK FORCE IS MADE UP OF RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THESE COUNTY, I PRESUME? NO, THIS IS, THIS IS NOT THE EAST COUNTY REGIONAL TOWN OF SAN DIEGO.

THIS IS THE SAN DIEGO TASK FORCE? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND THEN THAT'S CHAIRED BY RON ROBERTS AND UM, COUNCIL MEMBER CHRIS WARD.

UNDERSTOOD.

SO THEN THE PITCH WOULD BE COMING FROM OUR EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL OR IS IT COMING FROM THE CITY MANAGERS FROM DIFFERENT CITIES TO THE, TO THE PITCH AS TO WHO NEEDS THE MONEY OR IT WOULD PROBABLY ACTUALLY BE MORE OF A REGIONAL EFFORT.

IT WOULD PROBABLY BE ALL FOUR CITIES.

THE COUNTY, UH, CRISIS HOUSE, OUR EAST COUNTY TASK FORCE ON HOMELESSNESS.

SO IT'D BE SORT OF A COMBINED PITCH WHERE WE'RE ALL PUSHING IN THE SAME DIRECTION.

TERM SHEET FOR THE JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT, IT SAYS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE SOME SORT OF A GOVERNING BODY.

IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH SOME, LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? WELL, MAKE A MOTION, BUT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTS RESOLUTION DECLARING A SHELTER CRISIS AS A REQUIREMENT TO APPLY FOR HOMELESS EMERGENCY AID PROGRAM FUNDING.

PLEASE VOTE MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE SUPPRESSANT.

[13. Term Sheet for the Potential Agreement Implementing the East County Advanced Water Purification Project. RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council approves the Final Term Sheet for the East County Water Purification Project.]

I HAD HIM.

13 IS A POTENTIAL AGREEMENT IMPLEMENTING THE EAST COUNTY ADVANCED WATER PURIFICATION PROJECT.

I'LL ASK STAFF TO PLEASE INTRODUCE THE ITEM.

MR MAYOR PRO TEM AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

UM, THE CITY ALONG WITH PADRE DAM, UH, OR PADRE DAM MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT.

THE COUNTY SANITATION DISTRICT AND HELIX WATER DISTRICT HAVE BEEN EXPLORING THE FEASIBILITY OF THE ADVANCED WATER PURIFICATION PROGRAM.

UM, SINCE 2014 THE CITY HAS ENTERED INTO TO MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING AND HAS CONTRIBUTED $626,000 TO DO ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES, ECONOMIC STUDIES, OTHER FEASIBILITY STUDIES TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE ADVANCE OR AWP PROGRAM, UH, MAKES SENSE FOR THIS REGION.

UH, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THIS PROGRAM IS, IS ON TRACK WITH A SIMILAR PROGRAM THAT THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO IS INITIATING CALLED PURE WATER.

SO SOMETIMES YOU'LL HEAR A PURE WATER AWP.

THEY'RE VIRTUALLY THE SAME PROGRAM.

ONE IS ON A REGIONAL SCALE, ONE IS ON A MORE EAST COUNTY SCALE.

UM, AS PART OF THIS EFFORT AND THIS WORK, UM, WE HAVE DEVELOPED WHAT'S CALLED A TERM SHEET FOR POTENTIAL AGREEMENTS THAT WOULD NEED TO COME FORWARD IF, IF WE DETERMINE THAT THIS PROGRAM IS ONE FEASIBLE AND TO OUR RATE PAYERS BENEFIT FROM THIS TYPE OF A PROGRAM.

IF YOU GO TO THE, THERE WE GO.

UM, THIS TERM SHEET, UH, REALLY PUTS ALL FOUR ENTITIES IN, UM, SOME COLLABORATION ON WHAT WE'RE CALLING THINGS IN TERMS OF TERMINOLOGY.

IT TALKS ABOUT WHAT KIND OF NEGOTIATION PROCESS WE'RE GOING TO UTILIZE.

IT TALKS ABOUT WHAT TYPES OF TERMS AND CONDITIONS WOULD BE IN A JOINT POWERS AGREEMENT, IF THAT'S THE MOST FEASIBLE METHOD TO GOVERN THIS.

IT TALKS ABOUT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF AGREEMENTS, SUCH AS A WASTEWATER AGREEMENT, A WATER PURCHASE AGREEMENT, A TITLE 22 WATER PURCHASE AGREEMENT.

ALL THESE DIFFERENT AGREEMENTS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED.

IT LAYS ALL THOSE TYPES OF DOCUMENTS OUT WITHOUT, WITHOUT DRAFTING THOSE DOCUMENTS, BUT IDENTIFIES THE KEY ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE DISCUSSED OR INCLUDED IN THOSE, IT REALLY BECOMES ALMOST A FRAMEWORK BY WHICH WE CAN BEGIN TO NEGOTIATE SOME THINGS.

SO, SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE JOINT POWERS, UM, THE, THE

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IT DOESN'T SAY THAT EACH, EACH ENTITY WILL HAVE ONE VOTE OR UM, ALCOHOL AND WE'LL HAVE TWICE AS MANY VOTES BECAUSE WE HAVE, UM, WE, WE MAKE UP, UM, DOUBLE THE AMOUNT OF UH, FLUENT THAT'S PUT INTO THE SYSTEM DOESN'T ADDRESS THAT, BUT IT JUST SAYS AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO HAVE, WE NEED TO COME TO TERMS ON WHAT A JPA GOVERNANCE BOARD WOULD LOOK LIKE.

UM, WE THINK THAT ONE, THIS AGREEMENT OR THIS TERM SHEET APPROVAL OF THIS TERM SHEET DOES NOT BIND.

THE CITY COUNCIL DOES NOT BIND, UM, STAFF IN OUR NEGOTIATIONS.

IT JUST KEEPS THE BALL MOVING.

UM, RIGHT NOW STAFF IS WORKING WITH THE OTHER THREE ENTITIES AND WE'RE COMPLETING OUR FINAL FISCAL REVIEW OF THE PROGRAM TO DETERMINE WHETHER THIS MAKES SENSE AT ALL.

UM, AND THEN IF, IF WE BELIEVE IT DOES MAKE SENSE, WE'LL BE BRINGING SOME OF THESE IDEAS BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER IT MAKES SENSE FOR THE RATE PAYER.

SO AT THIS TIME, STAFF IS ENCOURAGING THE CITY COUNCIL TO APPROVE THE TERM SHEETS, WHICH WILL CONTINUE THE, THE BALL MOVING FORWARD AND STAFF'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN WANT THE UM, PURIFIED WATER COSTS MORE FOR THIS, UM, THAN WHAT IT DOES, UH, FOR NEW WATER.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH NEW WATER AND THAT'S WHY THIS IS HAPPENING.

SO, SO THERE'S, THERE'S TWO ELEMENTS THAT ARE PART OF THIS.

ONE IS THE COST TO DISPOSE OF OUR SEWAGE.

UM, AND THEN THE COST OF THIS NEW SOURCE OF WATER.

UM, IF IT WERE ALL S IF IT WERE STANDING 100% ALONE, UM, SHORT TERM THAT THIS WATER WOULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE THEN BUYING WATER FROM THE COLORADO AND FROM THE DELTA IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA.

LONGTERM, THIS WATER WILL ACTUALLY BE CHEAPER BASED ON WHAT WE'VE SEEN SO FAR, THOSE NUMBERS HAVEN'T BEEN BEEN VERIFIED.

WE HAVEN'T RUN OUR ANALYSIS ON THE DECEMBERS, BUT THE WAY THE TREND IS GOING, WE THINK THAT'S THE CASE.

BUT IN THE SHORT TERM, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.

THIS IS MORE EXPENSIVE WATER THAN JUST PURCHASING IT FROM THE COLORADO.

HOWEVER, WHEN YOU FACTOR IN THE COST OF PURE WATER, WHICH IF WE WERE TO STAY WITH THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO TO TREAT OUR WASTEWATER, WE WOULD BE PAYING FOR THAT COST OF THOSE TREATMENT FACILITIES.

UM, THIS, THIS MAY BE CHEAPER.

AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE DOING THAT FISCAL ANALYSIS, BUT, BUT WHEN WE PRESENT THAT, EVENTUALLY WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT BOTH THE COST OF WATER AND THE COST OF WASTEWATER TREATMENT AND, AND WE'LL BE LOOKING AT IT AS A COMBINED COST.

UM, SO YOU CAN MAKE THAT HOLISTIC DECISION.

SO THE COMBINED COSTS APPEARS TO BE LOWER THAN WHAT NEW WATER WOULD BE, UM, AS FAR AS THE DISPOSAL OF THE WASTEWATER VERSUS PURIFYING IT AND YOU'RE USING IT.

THAT'S THE OWL.

THAT'S THE, UM,

[15. Council Activity Report]

INITIAL INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE BUT NOT YET VERIFIED.

AND WE'LL BE SCRUTINIZING THOSE, THOSE FIGURES AGGRESSIVELY.

ISN'T ORANGE COUNTY DOING THIS AND HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

ORANGE COUNTY HAS BEEN DOING IT.

THEIR, THEIR SYSTEM IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

THEY ACTUALLY PUT IT BACK INTO THE GROUNDWATER, INTO THE AQUIFER.

SO IT USES THE EARTH TO, TO PURIFY THE AFFLUENT.

UM, IN THIS CASE IT'D BE PUT BACK INTO LAKE JENNINGS IN CO-MINGLED.

THERE'S SOME STUDIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY GOING ON LOOKING AT THE IMPACT THAT THAT WOULD HAVE ON THE ENVIRONMENT.

UM, SOME OF THE STUDIES SUGGEST THE WATER THAT WE WILL BE PUTTING IN MAYBE TO CLEAN CAUSE THE WATER THAT WE GET FROM THE COLORADO IS NOT VERY CLEAN.

SO THERE'S, THERE'S SOME INTERESTING STUDIES THAT ARE GOING ON ON HOW TO EFFECTIVELY BLEND THOSE TWO SOURCES OF WATER.

SO WE MIGHT END UP WITH CLEANER WATER AND WHAT WE HAVE NOW THEORETICALLY.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OF STAFF? ANGELA, DO YOU HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? NO SIR.

NO SPEAKER CARDS.

IS A REQUEST FOR A DEMOND EFFICATION.

IS ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OR WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO PROCEED WITH THE MOTIONS? I MOVE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED THE FIRST TERM SHEET FOR THESE COUNTY WATER PURIFICATION PROJECT.

SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE.

PRESENT ITEM 14

[14. Request for Indemnification – Councilmember Ben Kalasho (Lane v. Kalasho) RECOMMENDATION: Consider whether the City should reimburse Councilmember Kalasho the amount of $1,500.00, and under what terms and conditions, if any, should apply to the City's commitment of indemnification.]

I'LL ASK STAFF TO PLEASE INTRODUCE THE ITEM.

OF MR. COLLAGE SHOWS SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS, THE, UM, THE MATTERS BEFORE YOU BECAUSE, UH, NORMALLY IN THE GOVERNMENT CODE PROVIDES THAT, UH, WHEN AN EMPLOYEE IN THIS CASE A COUNCIL MEMBER IS NAMED IN A LAWSUIT, THAT THE, AND, AND IF THE LAWSUIT DEALS WITH THAT COUNCIL OR THAT, THAT OFFICIALS, UH, OFFICIAL STATUS AS A PUBLIC OFFICIAL WHEN HE'S WORKING IN THE COURSE AND SCOPE OF HIS EMPLOYMENT OR HER EMPLOYMENT WITH THE CITY, THAT THE CITY IS OBLIGATED TO PROVIDE A DEFENSE AND IN IS OBLIGATED, UH, THEREAFTER TO PROVIDE INDEMNIFICATION.

MAYOR PRO.

TIM KENDRICK IS, THIS IS AN ITEM, UH, AT THE REQUEST OF COUNCIL MEMBER COLOSSAE THAT HE BE REIMBURSED THE SUM OF $1,500.

UM, AS INDEMNIFICATION FOR THE GENERAL DAMAGES HE INCURRED, UH, IN A LAWSUIT THAT DID NOT INVOLVE THE CITY, ALTHOUGH IT DID REFER TO A NUMBER OF DOE DEFENDANTS, UM, BUT IT WAS, UH, BY MR. LANE AGAINST MR COLOSSI AND HAVING TO DO WITH, UM, FIRST AMENDMENT CLAIMS IN THE USE

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UH, WE'RE HERE AT THIS POINT TO, TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE, UM, THE, THE FIRST, UH, PRONG OF THAT, UH, TEST IS MET AND THAT'S WHETHER MR CLAW SHOW WAS IN FACT, UH, ACTING IN THE COURSE AND SCOPE OF HIS POSITION AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, UM, AS IT'S RELATED TO THIS LAWSUIT.

AND I'LL GET INTO THAT IN A MINUTE.

UH, THE NEXT ISSUE WOULD BE IF IN FACT HE WAS, WHETHER THERE WERE ANY EXCEPTIONS TO THE GENERAL RULE THAT HIS INDEMNIFICATION BE, UH, REQUEST BE GRANTED.

UM, BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR ALONG, I WANT TO ADDRESS ONE ISSUE AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE POLITICAL REFORM ACT.

UH, NORMALLY A COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD BE, UH, DISQUALIFIED FROM PARTICIPATING IN A DECISION OF THIS NATURE BECAUSE IT AFFECTS THEIR PERSONAL FINANCES.

IN THIS CASE, IT MEETS THE THRESHOLD, CLEARLY MEETS THE THRESHOLD OF, OF HAVING A MATERIAL FINANCIAL EFFECT ON MR COLLAGIO.

UM, THERE IS AN EXCEPTION TO THAT RULE.

HOWEVER, UNDER THE, UH, UH, INTERPRETATION AND THE REGULATIONS OF THE PO, UH, ADOPTED BY THE FAIR POLITICAL PRACTICES COMMISSION AND IT'S CONSIDERED PART OF THE COMPENSATION OF A PUBLIC OFFICIAL, UM, AND AS A FRINGE BENEFIT SO TO SPEAK WITH UM, UH, THAT BEING AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE.

SO HE CAN, UM, BE A PART OF THIS CONVERSATION WHEN IT COMES TO THE QUESTION, THE INITIAL THRESHOLD QUESTION OF WHETHER, UM, HE WAS ACTING IN THE COURSE AND SCOPE OF HIS AS A COUNCIL MEMBER AFTER THAT, MR COLLAGE SHOW, IF THE COUNCIL IS GOING TO DISCUSS FURTHER THE QUESTION OF WHETHER, UM, WHETHER THE, THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS TO THE GENERAL RULE AND THEREFORE SHOULD, UH, DID DECLINE INDEMNIFYING HIM.

THAT WOULD BE A DISCUSSION THAT MR COLLAGE WOULD BE DISQUALIFIED FROM PARTICIPATING IN.

BUT AT THE, AT THE INITIAL STAGE HERE, HE, HE'S LEGALLY ENTITLED TO SIT AND ANSWER QUESTIONS AND PROVIDE INFORMATION TO SUPPORT HIS CLAIM THAT THIS WAS IN FACT APPROPRIATE.

AS A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND BESIDES GIMME I'M NOT GOING TO GET INTO EVERYTHING IN THE REPORT.

I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT, UM, UH, THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE QUESTION OF WHETHER HE SHOULD BE REIMBURSED FOR INDEMNIFICATION AS OPPOSED TO A DEFENSE COSTS, UH, ARISES BECAUSE OF QUESTIONS OF WHETHER THERE WAS ACTUAL FRAUD, UM, UH, OR ACTUAL MALICE OR CORRUPTION INVOLVED.

IF ANY OF THOSE THREE ELEMENTS ARE INVOLVED, THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, CAN DECLINE TO INDEMNIFY HIM.

IF THERE WERE PUNITIVE DAMAGES INVOLVED, THE CITY COUNCIL CAN DECLINE IN, UH, TO, TO REIMBURSE HIM FOR THOSE PUNITIVE DAMAGES.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE WERE NO PUNITIVE DAMAGES PAID.

UH, I'M NOT, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF THERE ARE ANY ALLEGED, BUT I CAN LOOK AT THE COMPLAINT BRIEFLY IN A MINUTE TILL TO CONFIRM THAT, UH, AS WE GET ALONG IN THIS PROCEEDING, THE UH, REPORT ITSELF PROVIDES A COPY OF A DISMISSAL JOINT DISMISSAL AGREEMENT SIGNED BY MR COLLAGE SHOW IN SEPTEMBER ALONG WITH MR. LANE.

AND, UM, AND I THINK THAT'S INCLUDES MY REPORT.

I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME SPEAKERS BEFORE WE GET INTO THE FIRST PRONG OF THIS, THIS DISCUSSION.

AND UH, I'LL STOP FROM THERE AND ASK IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT MAY BEFORE WE HAVE SPEAKERS, COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THE CITY ATTORNEY, ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS? WE HAVE, WE HAVE FOUR SPEAKERS.

THE FIRST ONE IS MARK LANE.

HELLO AGAIN.

UM, MR. FOLEY, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THERE WAS NO ALLEGED PUNITIVE DAMAGE CAUSE I DIDN'T SUE HIM FOR MONEY.

I SUED HIM FOR FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.

SO THERE WAS NO MONEY ASKED FOR.

UM, I'M GOING TO READ WHEN NOT WHEN I CAN'T SAY SOMETHING GOOD MYSELF AND SOMEONE ELSE SAYS IT BETTER.

I LIKE TO USE THEIR WORDS.

SO THIS WASN'T WRITTEN BY ME FOR A FISCAL CONSERVATIVE.

COLLAGIO CERTAINLY WANTS CITIZENS TO PAY A LOT FOR HIS ACTIONS.

THE REWORK AFTER HIS CONFLICT OF INTEREST, HIS CLAIM OF POVERTY FOR A PUBLIC DEFENDER, POLICE FOR TWO ATTEMPTED ASSAULT IN STOCKING POLICE ASSIST NOW NEEDED FOR PROCESS SERVERS.

BEN'S DAY IN JAIL, HIS THREE YEARS OF OVERSIGHT BY THE PROBATION DEPARTMENT AND NOW

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HIS LEGAL DEFENSE FOR THIS LAWSUIT.

THE BIGGEST POSITIVE IMPACT HE COULD MAKE ON ALCOHOL BUDGET IS TO MOVE MR MCCLELLAN.

I'M GOING TO BORROW SOME OF YOUR WORDS THAT YOU USED A FEW MINUTES AGO THAT WERE VERY APPLICABLE TO THIS.

WHEN YOU GIVE SOMEONE MONEY, YOU ARE ENABLING THEM TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH THAT MONEY.

THESE ARE MY WORDS.

I DIDN'T SUE THE CITY OF EL CAHONE.

I DIDN'T SUE THE CITIZENS OF EL CAHONE.

I SUED BEN COLOSSAL PERSONALLY.

I DIDN'T SUE HIM IN HIS OFFICIAL CAPACITY.

I SUED HIM FOR VIOLATING MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

AND ABOUT A HUNDRED OTHER PEOPLE THAT I KNEW OF HAVING THE OKLAHOMA CITY TAXPAYERS PICK UP THE BILL FOR HIS PERSONAL WRONGDOING IS WRONG.

SECONDLY, HE NEVER DENIED ANY WRONGDOING IN THE SETTLEMENT OFFER THAT HE MADE TO US.

WE DIDN'T MAKE THAT SETTLEMENT OFFER.

HE MADE IT TO US THREE DIFFERENT VERSIONS BEFORE I FINALLY AGREED AND NONE OF THEM DID.

HE DENY WHAT HE DID WRONG.

DEFENDANTS OFTEN SETTLE LAWSUITS BUT EXPLICITLY DENY ANY WRONGDOING.

MR COLOSSAL WAS ADVISED BY A VERY EXPERIENCED ATTORNEY, SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN IN PRACTICE MUCH LONGER THAN MY ATTORNEY, BUT MR SIGNED THE SETTLEMENT WITHOUT DENYING WRONGDOING.

REMEMBER THAT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THIS THIRD, MR COLOSSAL REALLY WANTS TO RENEGOTIATE THE SETTLEMENT, WHICH IT'S TOO LATE TO DO BECAUSE THE JUDGE HAS MADE IT A FORMAL COURT ORDER.

MR COLLAGE WAS TRYING TO GET YOU TO COVER THE RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT OF LEGAL FEES THAT WE GAVE HIM A DISCOUNT ON BECAUSE THE LEGAL FEES WERE MORE, BUT THIS WASN'T ABOUT MONEY FOR ME.

HE HAD TO PAY MY ATTORNEY.

IF THE CITY WERE TO PAY ANYTHING, HE THEN WANT THE CITY DEFEND HIM IN ON DOING THE COURT ORDER.

HE HAS BEEN HARASSING MY ATTORNEY FOR DAYS TRYING TO GET A REPRIEVE BECAUSE COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORDER IS GIVING HIS CRITICS PERSONS OTHER THAN ME CAUSE I HAVEN'T COMMENTED ONCE SINCE THE SETTLEMENT.

A CHANCE TO TELL HIM WHAT THEY THINK AND HE DOESN'T LIKE WHAT THEY'RE WRITING.

AND BEFORE YOU GO TO CONVERSATION AND SAY THAT I MADE THAT UP TOWARDS HARASSING MY ATTORNEY CAME FROM MY ATTORNEY.

HE ASKED ME TO INCLUDE THAT IN THIS TALK TODAY.

AS SOON AS YOU ALL GIVE HIM A PENNY, HE'S COMING AFTER YOU FOR A POUND.

DON'T ENABLE HIM.

YOU KNOW HIS HISTORY.

YOU KNOW ALL THE LAWSUITS HE'S ALREADY LOST.

YOU KNOW THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE THE LAST, I KNOW THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE THE LAST CAUSE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE SERVING HIM AND WHAT HIS WIFE WAS SOME MORE FOR SOME OTHER PEOPLE.

YOU ENABLE HIM ON THIS.

HE'S COMING AFTER YOU FOR A POUND AND THEN HE'S COMING AFTER YOU FOR FIVE POUNDS.

THEN HE'S COMING AFTER YOU FOR 50 POUNDS.

THANK YOU PAUL.

CHRIS MAYOR, PORT TIM KENDRICK, MR MCCLELLAN, MR COLLAZO, MR GLOBAL.

I'M A CONTRIBUTING EDITOR FOR EAST COUNTY MAGAZINE.

I'VE BEEN DOING THIS NOW FOR ALMOST 10 YEARS.

I AM NOT HERE TO SUPPORT OR ASKING YOU TO DENY THE AGENDA ITEM.

HONESTLY, I'M NOT VERY COMFORTABLE AT ALL BEING HERE WHEN I'M SUPPOSED TO BE HERE.

REPORTING THE NEWS, THEN BEING BECOMING A PART OF IT.

I HAVE BEEN A PROFESSIONAL JOURNALISTS FOR MORE DECADES THAN I WANT TO ADMIT.

I HAVE BEEN ACCREDITED BY THE SAN DIEGO CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR WHICH I WAS VETTED FOR THIS LANYARD, WHICH I HOLD.

I AM NOT A PJ BEDROOM BLOGGER.

I'M HERE REPORTING THE TRUTH NO MATTER HOW UGLY OR BAD IT MIGHT BE JUST AS SAUDI ARABIAN JOURNALIST CAUSE SHOGI DID BEFORE HE WAS MURDERED.

MR COLLAZO HAS ATTACKED ME AND HAS ATTACKED THE PUBLISHER OF EAST CONNIE MAGAZINE AND NUMEROUS TIMES.

THE PUBLISHER BEING MRS MIRIAM RAFTERY AS IT PERTAINS TO ME, MR CLAUSER BEGAN HIS ATTACK ON ME ON NOVEMBER 4TH, 2017 WHEN HE WROTE WANT TO BE WANT TO BE ONE.

WE'RE DO WANT TO BE REPORTER PAUL CRUZ NEWS WITH EAST CONNIE MAGAZINE, WHICH NOW IN THE REST OF THE NATION, WHICH WERE NOT BEGGING ME FOR INTERVIEWS AFTER I'VE DECLINED.

THEN THERE WAS ANOTHER, OH NO, PAUL CRUZ NEWS, PLEASE DON'T GET A HANDFUL OF YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA FOLLOWERS AGAINST ME.

NO ONE READS YOUR JUNK WEIRDO.

ON THE 9TH OF MARCH, HE WROTE, TODAY I WANT TO BE REPORTER, WHICH GOES BY THE NAME OF PAUL CRUZ WITH BANKRUPT NEWS OUTLET.

EAST COUNTY MAGAZINE BEGGED ME FOR AN INTERVIEW.

MY RESPONSE, YOU'RE AN IDIOT.

KEEP MAKING ME FAMOUS.

THEN HIS FOLLOWING COMMENT, WHEN I BECOME MAYOR OF ALCOHOL AND DRASTIC CHANGES WILL OCCUR ON DAY ONE IN CITY HALL, I HAVE ALSO BEEN THE SUBJECT OF MR. COLLAGE SHOWS INNUENDOS

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AND DIRECT THREATS, CALLING ME A PSYCHOPATH AND A TROLL CAUSING PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY GO ONLINE AND MAKE DEATH THREATS TOWARDS ME.

JUST LAST WEEK, ALTHOUGH THAT, UM, MRS COLLAZO HAS TRIED TO HIDE HERSELF AS A CITIZEN.

SHE HAS INJECTED HERSELF AS A PUBLIC ENTITY AND AS A PUBLIC CITIZEN AND UH, AND ALSO ENGAGED IN CALLING ME A PSYCHOPATH AND A TROLL.

LAST WEEK, I WOULD VERY MUCH URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO REMEMBER THE ACTUAL WORDS OF MR COLLAZO WHEN CONSIDERING THE SUBJECT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ORDERING TO THE, UH, REPORT ONLINE.

IT SAYS UNDER CALIFORNIA LAW, THE CITY HAS THE OPTION TO REFUSE AND ONE OF THE REASONS IS THE EMPLOYEE ACTED OR FAILED TO ACT BECAUSE OF ACTUAL FRAUD, CORRUPTION OR ACTUAL MALICE.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES PEOPLE HAVE TO COME TO THIS PODIUM AND SAY THAT HE IS MALICIOUS OR FRAUD OR CORRUPT.

UH, THIS IS INSANITY.

THIS IS INSANITY THAT HE WOULD ASK FOR US TO REIMBURSE HIM FOR HIS BAD BEHAVIOR.

AND SO, UH, AS FAR AS THIS GOES, I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO VOTE NO, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE, UH, CAUSING THE CITY TO BE AN ACCOMPLICE TO THIS CORRUPTION.

COUNCIL MEMBER MCCLELLAN.

OKAY, LAST SPEAKER IS JAMIE FRITAS.

UH, TODAY I WAS READING THE AGENDA, WHICH BROUGHT ME HERE TODAY AND OBVIOUSLY ON ITEM 14, IT'S COUNCILMAN COLLAGIO REQUESTING TO BE REIMBURSED BY THE CITY FOR HIS LAWSUIT LANE VERSUS COLLAGIO.

A MICROPHONE IN FRONT OF YOU, I'M SORRY, IS A COUNCIL MEMBER WHO CHOOSES TO USE A PUBLIC SOCIAL MEDIA THAT HAS NO TIES OR CONTROL BY THE CITY OF EL CAHONE IS A PERSONAL CHOICE.

AS A CITY RESIDENT, A TAX PAYER, THE CITY SHOULD BE HELD HARMLESS AGAINST ANY AND ALL CLAIMS FOR PERSONAL CHOICES OF ALL CITY EMPLOYEES.

SO MY OPINION IS WE SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN CARE OF THAT COST AND APPARENTLY IT'S GROWING.

SO THANK YOU.

NUMBER SPEAKER, SIR MERE PROTEIN.

THERE'S JUST ONE THING I WANTED TO ADD TO THE REPORT THAT, UM, I WAS BROUGHT UP BY SOME OF THE SPEAKERS.

MR. LANE INDICATED THAT HE SUED MR IN HIS INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY.

AND IN FACT THE COMPLAINT DOES STATE THAT, UM, HOWEVER, THE COMPLAINT STATES THAT MR COLLAGIO VIOLATED, UH, MR LANES AND OTHERS FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS UNDER THE, UH, UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION.

AND THAT IN AND OF ITSELF LENDS CREDIBILITY TO THE CONCEPT THAT MR IS BEING SUED FOR HIS POLITICAL OR PUBLIC OFFICIAL.

UH, YOU CANNOT HAVE A, UH, PUBLIC FORUM IN A PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF, IF, UM, MR. MITCHELL HAD, WELL I WON'T USE YOU, YOU'RE A PUBLIC OFFICIAL, BUT LET'S SAY MR HAS A, A, A SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNT AND HE SH BLOCKS SOMEBODY OR DELETES OR A COMMENT.

IT DOESN'T CREATE A FIRST AMENDMENT VIOLATION BECAUSE HE DOES NOT HAVE A PUBLIC FORUM AS PART OF HIS SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS.

SO THERE'S A DISTINCTION THERE THAT MR LANE'S LAWSUIT NECESSARILY HAD TO STATE IN ORDER TO PROVE FIRST AMENDMENT VIOLATIONS.

BUT, UH, UNFORTUNATELY IT LEADS TO THE CONCLUSION, THE LOGICAL CONCLUSION THAT THERE'S AN IMPLICATION HE WAS ACTING AS A PUBLIC OFFICIAL AS OPPOSED TO, UM, ACTING AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN.

ANGELA, ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKER CARDS? NO, SIR.

I'D LIKE TO ASK, UH, MORGAN SO

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IT DOESN'T MATTER.

WE CAN MAKE UP OUR MIND EITHER WAY.

BASED UPON WHAT YOU SAID.

WE HAVE THE CHOICE IS MY REPORT INDICATED THERE.

THERE IS A WAY YOU CAN SAY, EVEN THOUGH HE WAS A PUBLIC OFFICIAL, THAT UM, DEFENSE COSTS SHOULD NOT BE PAID OR INDEMNIFICATION COSTS SHOULD NOT BE PAID.

IN THIS CASE, MR COLLAGE IS NOT ASKING FOR DEFENSE COSTS.

HIS, HIS REQUESTS SIMPLY FOR INDEMNIFICATION, THE SECOND HALF OF THAT.

BUT IN BOTH INSTANCES, UM, IF HE'S A PUBLIC OFFICIAL, THE CITY WOULD HAVE TO DETERMINE WHETHER HE COMMITTED ACTUAL FRAUD, ACTUAL MALICE OR CORRUPTION.

AND IF, IF THAT IN FACT OCCURRED, UH, THEN YOU COULD DECLINE REIMBURSEMENT.

BUT IF YOU CAN'T MAKE THAT FINDING OF ACTUAL FRAUD, ACTUAL MALICE OR CORRUPTION, THEN YOU'RE OBLIGATED TO MAKE THE PAYMENT.

WELL, WOULDN'T, UM, CALLING SOMEBODY NAMES AND REMOVING THEIR POSTS AND EVERYTHING BE KIND OF A MALICE THING THAT'S FOR YOUR DETERMINATION.

THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION.

DEFENDANT DENIES THE ALLEGATIONS.

WELL, THE FIRST QUESTION IS WHETHER MR COLLAGIO CAN STILL BE A PARTICIPANT IN THIS DISCUSSION.

THE FIRST QUESTION IS WHETHER HE WAS ACTING IN HIS OFFICIAL CAPACITY AS A COUNCIL MEMBER.

SO YOU NEED TO ADDRESS THAT FIRST AND THEN YOU CAN GET INTO THE DISCUSSION WHILE HE'S DISQUALIFIED FROM DISCUSSING ANY OF THE DEFENSES TO THAT OR THE, UH, THE, THE CONTRADICTIONS TO THAT COUNCIL MEMBER.

COLLAGIO I GUESS I'LL TAKE THIS TIME RIGHT NOW TO PUT IT IN PLAIN TERMS FOR PEOPLE WATCHING.

UH, SO THIS, THIS KIND OF CASE HAPPENED WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP WHERE HE WAS ACCUSED OF, UM, BLOCKING SOMEBODY ON TWITTER AND A CONSTITUENT THEN WENT ON AND SUED HIM IN FEDERAL COURT.

UM, AND UH, AND THEN BECAUSE THE U S A U S CITIZEN WOULD BE A CONSTITUENT OF, UH, PRESIDENT TRUMP, UH, THEN THAT WOULD MEAN THAT HE WAS IN ESSENCE, UH, BLOCKING THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH.

AND WHAT HAVE YOU IN THIS CASE? UH, CONTRARY TO WHAT, UH, A GENTLEMAN CAME HERE EARLIER AND SAID THAT I, HE SERVED ME PAPERS BECAUSE I WAS HARASSING A WOMAN.

UH, I'M NOT SURE, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ANY JUDGEMENTS, BUT I DON'T THINK MARK LANE WAS A WOMAN.

I COULD BE WRONG.

BUT, UM, I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT A FEW FACTUAL AND CONSISTENCIES WITH MR LANE'S.

UM, UH, SPEAKING IS THAT HE SAID THAT THE SETTLEMENT DID NOT MENTION ANY, UH, DENIAL.

MORGAN IS THE SETTLEMENT IN FRONT OF YOU? YES, I HAVE.

COULD YOU READ THE LAST LINE? AND NUMBER ONE, IT'S ON PAGE ONE OF THE SETTLEMENT, THE JOINT DISMISS AND MOTION FOR DISMISSAL LINES 23 AND 24.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, UM, MCCLAIN IS A PROLIFIC OFFENDER OF THE TRUTH.

UM, BUT, BUT I WANTED TO BREAK IT DOWN BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT AND IT'S, IT'S WORTH MENTIONING THAT MARK LANE IS ALSO SUING THE MAYOR OF ESCONDIDO, UH, THE MAYOR OF NATIONAL CITY, RON MORRISON.

AND SO, AND DON'T SPEAK, IT'S NOT YOUR TURN.

AND ALSO, AND ALSO MARK LANE'S ATTORNEY, MR COREY BRIGGS IS ALSO THE SAME ATTORNEY THAT'S SUING THE MAYOR OF ESCONDIDO, SAM EBBED AND THE MAYOR OF NATIONAL CITY.

AND ME AND THOSE TWO CASES, THE CITY, UH, PICKED UP THE TAB ON THAT DEFENSE.

BUT I WASN'T ABOUT TO PUT MY FATE AND IN THE HANDS OF MY COLLEAGUES.

SO I TOOK IT UPON MYSELF TO ENGAGE IN THAT SETTLEMENT BECAUSE IT WAS A BUSINESS DECISION BECAUSE THAT'S THE, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT'S THE WORLD WE LIVE IN NOW.

AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THESE KIND OF GROSS PRACTICES OF LAW THAT YOU'RE HIS ATTORNEY AND PEOPLE LIKE HIM, THEY LIKE TO GO TO DIFFERENT CITIES AND, AND SUE CITY OFFICIALS AND BE BOMBASTIC AND USE BLUSTER LIKE YOU SAW, YOU KNOW, IN ANOTHER SPEAKERS SPEAK.

IT'S THE SAME PEOPLE OVER AND OVER.

AND I WOULD, I WOULD NEVER BE, YOU KNOW, I APOLOGIZE FOR THE FACT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO SIT THROUGH THAT BECAUSE THIS ISN'T HOW THIS PRACTICE IS SUPPOSED TO GO DOWN.

SO I TOOK IT UPON MYSELF TO, TO UH, SETTLE, SETTLE THE LAWSUIT, WHICH IN MY OPINION WAS FRIVOLOUS FOR ONE REASON, I NEVER BLOCKED ANYBODY.

THIS WAS ON A PERSONAL FACEBOOK PAGE, WHICH AS YOU KNOW, IS LIMITED TO 5,000 FRIENDS LIMIT.

AND I EXCEED THAT ALL THE TIME.

AND SO WHEN IT'S EXCEEDS THAT OTHER PEOPLE CAN'T VIEW YOUR STUFF, THIS IS ALL ON MY PERSONAL ACCOUNT.

SO WHEN YOU'RE SITTING THERE THINKING AS A NORMAL, WELL SHOOT, I, IF SOMEBODY WAS CALLING ME ALL SORTS OF NAMES AND ATTACKING MY WIFE OR MY FAMILY OR ALL THE SORTS OF THINGS THAT YOU SEE OUT OF THERE, OUT OF THEM.

AND WHAT WOULD YOU DO? YOU'D BLOCK THEM FIRST MINUTE YOU GET.

AND IF YOU'RE SAYING YOU WOULDN'T, YOU'RE

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LYING.

SO, UM, BUT THAT DIDN'T EVEN HAPPEN HERE.

RIGHT? SO WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU IS, UH, PEOPLE ARE, PEOPLE ARE SMARTER THAN THAT.

THEY'RE LIKE, THEY'RE WAKING UP TO IT AND IT'S WHEN YOU SEE THE SAME PEOPLE OVER AND OVER, WHEN ONE ATTORNEY IS GOING AROUND SUING ELECTED OFFICIALS, YOU'RE GOING TO TELL ME HE'S NOT IN IT FOR THE MONEY.

WHAT'S HE IN IT FOR? ARE YOU MEAN? YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT AFTER THEY GET UP TO SPEAK, THEY RUN, THEY RUN TO THE UT REPORTER AND, AND HOW TO LET A CORNER AND WRITE A CRAPPY ARTICLE THAT THEY'RE NOT ALL IN IT TOGETHER.

WHETHER I'D GET REIMBURSED OR NOT.

PEANUTS TO AN ELEPHANT.

IT'S, IT'S ABOUT, UM, PRINCIPLE IN A SENSE.

I DIDN'T BLOCK ANYBODY.

THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, AND ALL THIS OTHER STUFF.

I WENT TO JAIL AND I DID ALL THAT.

THIS IS JUST, THESE ARE JUST POLITICAL ATTACKS NOW.

UM, WHETHER YOU BELIEVE THEM OR NOT, THAT'S UP.

THAT'S UP TO YOU TO DECIDE WHATEVER THE COUNCIL DECIDES.

IT'S UP TO THE COUNCIL DECIDE, BUT TO, TO LAY IT OUT THERE AS TO IN CONTEXT, IN PLAIN LANGUAGE, BECAUSE THE CITY ATTORNEY IS WELL VERSED IN THE LEGAL MATTERS.

THESE GUYS ARE NOT, I WANT IT TO SPEAK TO THE PEOPLE WATCHING ON TV BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S GOING TO TURN INTO A POLITICAL CIRCUS AS TO WHY I SHOULDN'T GET REIMBURSED.

THESE KINDS OF CASES I THINK, I THINK MARK LANE'S ATTORNEY HAS HAS SUED.

I WOULD BE CONSERVATIVE IF I WAS TO TELL YOU HE'S SUED 50 CITIES OR MUNICIPALITIES IN HIS CAREER.

THAT'S HOW HE MAKES HIS LIVING AND SO YEAH, IT WAS A PURELY BUSINESS DECISION AND REMEMBER THIS WHILE THE MAYOR OF ESCONDIDO IN THE MAYOR OF NATIONAL CITY GOT THE CITY TO PAY THE TAB ON THEIR DEFENSE.

I'M NOT EVEN ASKING FOR THAT BECAUSE THE SETTLEMENT'S ALREADY BEEN MADE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE UNFAIR FOR ME TO ASK THE CITY, EVEN THOUGH IT'S MY LEGAL RIGHT, AS IN BEING IN THE COLOR OF OFFICE, BECAUSE AS MORGAN MENTIONED, YOU AS AN INDIVIDUAL CANNOT BE SUED BY BLOCKING SOMEBODY'S FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT.

IT'S ONLY UNTIL YOU GET UP HERE OR THERE THAT YOU BECOME A TARGET.

AND SO JUST THINK OF THAT TODAY.

IT'S ME TOMORROW.

IT MIGHT BE YOU AND THAT GUY COULD BE STANDING THERE SERVING YOU PAPERS.

SO YOU HAVE TO BE COGNITIVE ABOUT WHAT'S REALLY BEING SAID AND WHAT'S HAPPENING.

OR WHEN YOU GET A REPORTER OVER HERE THAT SHOWS A BADGE THAT EVERY REPORTER GETS A BADGE AND WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE IMPRESSED.

SO, UM, IT, IT, IT ISN'T THAT I GO OUT OF MY WAY TO MAKE A POINT.

I, I, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PEOPLE THAT CAME UP HERE AND THAT SPOKE, UM, JEREMIAH, JIM, FRANK, RUTH, LINDA, SIMONA, ANNA MARIE THAT HAVE LEGITIMATE ISSUES, BUT CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS HAVE BEEN OVERTAKEN.

I DON'T WANT IT TO BE THE BEN COLLAGE SHOW SHOW.

I WANT TO TALK ABOUT REAL ISSUES.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, THERE'S A REASON WHY L COHEN HAS THE, HAVE AS MANY HOMELESS PEOPLE AS LA MESA AND SANTI COMBINED.

AND IT'S BECAUSE OF WE GET DISTRACTED BY HYPERBOLE AND HYPERBOLIC EXPERIENCES THAT NEVER EVEN HAPPENED AND QUITE FRANKLY LIES.

SO THAT'S WHY I WANT TO KIND OF LAY OUT THE FOUNDATION FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE IT IN CONTEXT.

IT WAS, I NEVER BLOCKED ANYBODY.

I SIMPLY MAX OUT ON FRIENDS ON MY PERSONAL FACEBOOK PAGE.

BUT THESE, YOU CAN SHAKE YOUR HEAD ALL YOU WANT, BUT YOU GO, YOU'RE GOING AROUND SUING PEOPLE.

SO, AND BY THE WAY, AND BY YOU DON'T SPEAK, IT'S NOT YOUR TURN.

IT'S NOT YOUR TURN TO SPEAK.

WE LISTEN TO YOU.

I NEVER INTERRUPTED YOU.

SO RESPECT THE RULE.

SO, UM, AND, AND ONE THING TO NOTE, MARK LANE DOESN'T LIVE IN EL CAHONE.

HE'S NOT MY CONSTITUENT.

HE LIVES IN NATIONAL CITY.

SO JUST A FEW IMPORTANT FACTS HE PROBABLY FORGOT TO MENTION.

HIS OFFICIAL CAPACITY, THE FIRST PRONG, UH, AND STEVE, YOU BELIEVE HE WAS, I STATED MY CASE WELL WAS BUT WITH MALICE, YEAH.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS? I THINK THE FIRST PRONG IS WE HAVE TO DECIDE, DID BEN TO ACT, UH, IN A CAPACITY AS A PUBLIC OFFICIAL AND AS MUCH AS IT MIGHT PAY ME TO DO SO.

I BELIEVE IT IS.

I BELIEVE HIS POSITION IN THIS CASE IS A PUBLIC OFFICIAL BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT'S A PRIVATE ACCOUNT, HE IS A PUBLIC OFFICIAL TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC THINGS, WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH HIS STATEMENTS, WHETHER YOU FIND THEM REPULSIVE, DISAGREEABLE, IT IS HIS FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT AS WELL TO SPEAK THAT.

AND FOR THAT REASON, I THINK IT'S A PUBLIC FORUM AND I BELIEVE IT'S WITHIN THE SCOPE AS A PUBLIC OFFICIAL.

SO I BELIEVE THE FIRST PRONG HAS BEEN MET FOR THOSE REASONS.

SO AT THIS POINT, MAYOR PRO TEM KENDRICK, UNLESS THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, UH, IF THE COUNCIL COULD TAKE A STRAW VOTE ON WHETHER YOU AGREE WITH MR GOBLE, UH, THEN MR COLLAGIO, IF YOU DO, THE MR COLLAGES SHOULD STEP, STEP DOWN AND LEAVE THE ROOM FOR THE NEXT PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, IF YOU BELIEVE HE WAS ACTING IN

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WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE MALICE PART YET, RIGHT? WELL, MALICE COMES TO PLAY IN BOTH PRONGS, UM, BECAUSE YOU COULD COMPLETE, WELL, I'M SORRY.

IT DOES NOT.

THIS IS PART OF THE, UM, THE QUESTION OF WHETHER HE'S A PUBLIC OFFICIAL BECOMES PART OF THE INITIAL THRESHOLD QUESTION AFTER THAT, IT BECOMES WHETHER YOU REIMBURSE THEM, WHETHER IT'S FOR, UH, LEGAL FEES OR INDEMNIFICATION.

SO, SO EVEN IF MR MCALLEN HAS A VIEWPOINT OF, UM, UH, THE DEFENSE OR THE EXCEPTION FOR MALICE IS STILL DOESN'T RESOLVE THE INITIAL QUESTION BEFORE MR COLLAGIO HAS TO STEP DOWN.

SO THE MALICE ISSUE WOULD BE IN THE SECOND PHASE OF THIS? YES.

THE BAR, WHAT DO YOU SING IS THE MALICE, SHE WAS IN THE SECOND PHASE WHEN HE WAS, DO YOU THINK HE WAS ACTING IN HIS OFFICIAL CAPACITY? WELL, NO, BECAUSE IT'S HIS PERSONAL, UH, FACEBOOK ACCOUNT.

AND, UH, SINCE HE OPENED IT UP PERSONALLY, HE DIDN'T OPEN IT AS A CITY OF EL CAHONE FACEBOOK PAGE.

HE OPENED IT UP AS A BEN COLLAGEY FACEBOOK PAGE.

RIGHT.

BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS BECAUSE THERE WAS THE LAWSUIT, HE WAS ACTING IN AS A, UH, PUBLIC OFFICIAL IN THAT CAPACITY.

UH, THE, THE NATURE OF TECHNOLOGY HAS CHANGED SO QUICKLY.

AND WE HAVE FACED THE ISSUE WITH PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS OF YOUR OWN INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNTS, IF YOU'LL RECALL, UH, HAVING TO DO WITH PUBLIC BUSINESS.

AND THE COURTS HAVE INTERPRETED THAT TO MEAN THAT EVEN A PRIVATE ACCOUNT CAN BECOME A PUBLIC FORUM, CAN BECOME A PUBLIC, UH, SOURCE OF PUBLIC RECORDS.

AND AS MENTIONED IN THE, UH, UH, THE TRUMP CASE AS WELL AS OTHER, UM, CASES THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES AND HAWAII AND FLORIDA AND OTHERS, THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER, IN BALTIMORE, THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER PUBLIC OFFICIALS WHO FACE THESE SIMILAR LAWSUITS, UH, EVEN USING THEIR OWN PERSONAL ACCOUNTS WHERE THEY, UM, USE THOSE ACCOUNTS TO, TO REACH OUT TO THEIR CONSTITUENTS.

SO IN THAT CASE, ANYBODY THAT WOULD WANT TO PUT A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST TO BEN COLLAGE IA THROUGH, THROUGH THE CITY OF ALCOHOL AND COULD GET ALL OF HIS FACEBOOK RECORDS.

NO, NOT, THAT'S NOT CORRECT.

YOU COULD ONLY GET PUBLIC RECORDS.

SO THOSE ARE ALL, THOSE ARE RECORDS THAT RELATE TO THE PUBLIC'S BUSINESS.

SO BOB, I THINK YOUR CONCERN IS THE MALICE ISSUE AND THE MALICE ISSUE COMES UP IN THE SECOND PRONG.

SO YOU'LL, YOU'LL GET YOUR SAY ON THAT ON THE SECOND PRONG.

BUT FOR ME, I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT HE WAS ACTING AS A PUBLIC OFFICIAL CAUSE HE WAS INTERACTING WITH THE PUBLIC, WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE LIVING IN OR NOT, HE WAS INTERACTING WITH THE PUBLIC.

SO THAT I WOULD SAY THAT, UH, HE WAS THE FIRST PRONG, THE IT IS MET IN THAT HE WAS ACTING AS A PUBLIC OFFICIAL.

AND STEVE, YOU AGREE ON THAT, BOB? NOPE.

AND BEN.

WELL, I THINK YOU CAN, YOU CAN PARTICIPATE AT THIS AT THIS LEVEL AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE TO LEAVE.

UH, YEAH.

AND, AND FURTHERMORE, I MEAN LIKE, SO, SO BOB DOESN'T HAVE FACEBOOK, SO HE DOESN'T KNOW ALL OF THE DYNAMICS BEHIND IT AND STUFF.

SO TO CLARIFY IT, UH, BOB, IF YOU HAVE A FACEBOOK TOMORROW THAT'S PRIVATE, IT IS NOT PRIVATE BECAUSE YOU HOLD OFFICE.

IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW YOU MADE IT.

LOOKS TO ME LIKE WE'VE GOT THREE VOTES HERE THAT SAY IT WAS PUBLIC.

SO AT THIS POINT, MR COLLAZO, YOU NEED TO BE DISQUALIFIED.

YOU'LL HAVE TO LEAVE THE ROOM, UH, AND STATE THE PURPOSE OF THE DISQUALIFICATION.

IT HAS AN EFFECT ON YOUR PERSONAL FINANCIAL EFFECTS IF I THINK IT IS A SITUATION, BUT YOU NEED TO STATE THAT I'M DISQUALIFYING MYSELF BECAUSE IT HAS A FINANCIAL, UH, CONFLICT OF INTEREST ON YOUR PERSONAL FINANCE, ON MY PERSONAL FINANCES.

NOW WE'RE AT THE STAGE WHERE THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO DETERMINE WHETHER YOU WILL AGREE TO THE INDEMNIFICATION OR IF YOU BELIEVE THAT, UM, THERE IS AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE AND THAT HE SHOULDN'T, MR COLOSSI SHOULD NOT BE IDENTIFIED.

COUNCIL MEMBER GLOBAL.

MR. FOLEY, CAN YOU CLARIFY FOR US THE DEFINITION OF ACTUAL MALICE? UM, YES.

THE TERM MALICE IS REALLY STRICTLY INTERPRETED BY THE COURTS.

UM,

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UH, ESPECIALLY WHEN USED WITH PUBLIC OFFICIALS.

ACTUAL MALICE AS USED IN STATE LAWS, UH, HAS BEEN INTERPRETED TO MEAN A CONSCIOUS CONSCIENCE, SORRY, CONSCIOUS INTENT TO DECEIVE VEX A NOISE OR HARM THE INJURED PARTY.

SO THAT'S THE STANDARD THAT YOU WOULD USE IN DETERMINING WHETHER THE MALICE IT OCCURRED.

SO MR KENDRICK, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR MR. LANE.

CAN WE CALL HIM BACK UP? MORGAN, CAN WE DO THAT? MR. LANG, WOULD YOU COME UP PLEASE? GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. LANE.

HELLO.

SO WHAT I'M INTERESTED IN AND THE CRUX OF THE OF THIS ISSUE IS SHOULD THE PEOPLE OF ELKA HONE, REIMBURSE BEN $1,500 AND YOU SUED HIM FOR FOUR.

WHY DID YOU SUE HIM? UM, CAN I CLARIFY TWO THINGS REAL QUICK? UH, NUMBER ONE, UH, HE STATED I GO AROUND SUING PEOPLE.

I'VE ACTUALLY IN MY LIFE NEVER SUED ANYBODY.

HE'S THE FIRST PERSON I'VE EVER SUED.

UM, AND SECONDLY, THE ISSUE WITH THE 5,000 FRIENDS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BLOCKING PEOPLE FROM BEING ABLE TO COMMENT OR NOT.

IF YOU HAVE 5,000 FRIENDS, THERE'S STILL A FOLLOW BUTTON AND PEOPLE CAN FOLLOW HIM.

AND IF HE MAKES A PUBLIC COMMENT, PEOPLE CAN COMMENT.

HE KNOWS THAT IF HE MAKES IT A FRIEND'S ONLY COMMENT, PEOPLE CAN'T, THAT'S EFFECTIVELY BLOCKING.

UM, AND THIRDLY, UM, HE WAS WRONG WHEN HE TOLD MR MCCLELLAN THAT IF YOU OPEN A PRIVATE FACEBOOK ACCOUNT IS NOT PRIVATE, IT'S PRIVATE UNTIL YOU START DISCUSSING PUBLIC BUSINESS.

AS LONG AS YOU DON'T DISCUSS PUBLIC BUSINESS, THE ACCOUNT IS STILL PRIVATE.

WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO COMMENT TO YOU ON YOUR PERSONAL ACCOUNT, BUT THE MINUTE YOU TALK PUBLIC BUSINESS WE DO.

I'M SORRY FOR THAT.

I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.

SO, SO LET'S STAY IN A NARROW PATH HERE.

UH, I'M AWARE OF MR COLLAGIO, HIS COMMENTS ON HIS SIDE.

THE QUESTION TO ME IS DID HE SUPPRESS OR CENSOR YOUR ABILITY TO MAKE COMMENTS? HE SUPPRESSED MY ABILITY TO EVEN SEE HIS PAGE.

I COULDN'T SEE HIS PAGE.

AND SO PART OF THE LAWSUIT INCLUDED THE SCREENSHOT.

SO IF I, IF I TRIED TO GO TO YOUR PAGE, I WOULD BE ABLE TO AT LEAST SEE YOUR PAGE AND SEND YOU A FREDERICK QUEST OR WHATEVER.

I COULDN'T EVEN SEE HIS PAGE.

I COULDN'T ACCESS HIS PAGE AT ALL.

SO YES, HE DID SUPPRESS MY ABILITY TO DO THAT.

HE ALSO HAD SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE COMPLETELY BLOCKED ON TWITTER, ON INSTAGRAM AS WELL.

SO I ACTUALLY HAVE SOME EXPERIENCE IN THIS MATTER, UH, BECAUSE OF WHAT I DO AT WORK AND I MANAGE PEOPLE WHO MANAGE SOCIAL MEDIA AND FACEBOOK.

SO I'M AWARE OF THE DETAILS OF HOW FACEBOOK WORKS.

I'M AWARE THAT YOU CAN BLOCK SOMEBODY SO THAT THEY CANNOT SEE YOUR PAGE.

UH, I'M AWARE THAT YOU CAN STILL COMMENT ON SOMEBODY'S PAGE IF YOU CAN SEE IT, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE NOT A FRIEND YOU CAN HAVE, YOU CAN STILL MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT.

DID YOU EVER MAKE COMMENTS THAT WERE DELETED? UM, YEAH, AND HE ALSO PRACTICED AND LAST YEAR I TALKED ABOUT IT SEVERAL TIMES AND COMMENT WHERE HE WOULD BLOCK ME.

THEN ON BLOCK, MAY GO THROUGH AND TAKE SCREENSHOTS AND THEN BLOCKED ME AGAIN.

UM, HE WOULD MAKE A COMMENT, I WOULD MAKE A COMMENT AND THEN HE WOULD DELETE IT.

SO YES, THAT'S, HE DID THAT.

UH, I'D LIKE TO CALL ANOTHER PERSON IF I COULD.

ABSOLUTELY.

MR. CRUZ, WHICH YOU SPOKE EARLIER, WOULD YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE? YES.

A SCRIBBLE.

HOW DO YOU, DO YOU FEEL THAT MR? UH, WELL, LET ME ASK A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY FIRST.

MR CITY ATTORNEY, AM I ALLOWED TO CONSIDER PEOPLE INJURED OTHER THAN MR. LANE BECAUSE THE SETTLEMENT DISCUSSES OTHER PEOPLE? YEAH, I THINK THE WHOLE ISSUE WITH THE COMPLAINT WAS TO CHALLENGE, UM, TO COMPLAIN ABOUT A VIOLATION OF MR LANE'S FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

BUT HIS, UM, FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS DON'T STOP THERE.

IT'S NOT JUST HIS, THAT, THAT, UH, WOULD, WOULD BE THERE.

NOW THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENTS ONLY BINDING WITH MR MR. LANE, NOBODY ELSE.

IT CAN ONLY BE ENFORCED BY MR. LANE IF THERE'S A, IF THERE'S A BREACH OF THAT AGREEMENT.

BUT HE COUCHED THE, THE COMPLAINT IN TERMS OF, UH, THE PUBLIC'S INABILITY TO EXERCISE THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

SO AM I ALLOWED TO ASK MR. CRUZ A SIMILAR LINE OF QUESTIONING? YES.

YOU MAY.

MR. CRUZ, DO YOU FEEL MR COLLAGIO SUPPRESSED OR CENSORED YOUR ABILITY TO COMMENT ON SOCIAL MEDIA?

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I KNOW HE HAS NOT.

UH, TO MY KNOWLEDGE I HAVE ACTUALLY, UH, BY THE, BY THE ADVICE OF MY ATTORNEYS, YOU KNOW, TO, UH, ONLY HAVE, MAKE ANY STATEMENTS OF THAT IS AN APPROVAL BY MY ATTORNEY.

OKAY, GREAT.

UM, MR LIEBER OR MR FRITAS TO EITHER ONE OF YOU WANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK AND ANSWER THE QUESTION.

IT WOULD BE SIMILAR QUESTIONING.

DO YOU WANT TO COME UP? YOU HAVE NOTHING TO ADD.

ALL RIGHT.

I HAVE SOME COMMENTS, BUT I GUESS I'LL RESERVE THOSE IN CASE OTHERS HAVE QUESTIONS.

I UH, I WOULD LIKE ERIC COME UP AND EXPLAIN TO HIM TO S WHAT HE DID TO HER.

AND, UH, THIS WAS USING HIS FACEBOOK PAGE.

I THINK IT WAS A INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT AS OPPOSED TO IT'S SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT IT'S NOT THE FACEBOOK PAGE.

HI.

YES, IT WAS INSTAGRAM.

OH, THAT WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T WELL, SOCIAL MEDIA.

WHAT'S THE QUESTION? OH, SO, UM, BASICALLY I MADE ONE COMMENT, WHICH WAS THE ARTICLE THAT HE SHARED WASN'T VERY FLATTERING FOR HIM.

I SAID, THIS ISN'T AN ARTICLE TO BE PROUD OF.

AND THEN HE JUST STARTED NAME CALLING, UM, KINDA GOING BACK AND FORTH.

AND IF YOU LOOK UP THE FEED, I NEVER INSULTED HIM.

I NEVER SAID ANYTHING REALLY RUDE OTHER THAN YOU'RE A JOKE.

THIS ARTICLE DOESN'T REALLY MAKE YOU LOOK GOOD.

YOU'RE MY COUNCILMAN.

I'M EMBARRASSED FOR ALCOHOL AND I KIND OF MADE THOSE KINDS OF COMMENTS.

UM, AND I TOLD HIM HE HAD FAKE FOLLOWERS ON INSTAGRAM BECAUSE HE DOES.

AND THEN THAT'S WHEN HE ATTACKED MY LOOKS.

HE SAID I NEEDED TO GET PLASTIC SURGERY.

HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW I GO OUTSIDE THE HOUSE LOOKING THE WAY I DO.

UM, HE SAID IT WAS STUPID.

HE, UH, SAID I HAD A FIFTH GRADE EDUCATION LEVEL.

HE SAID HE DOESN'T WORK FOR ME.

I MEAN IT WAS LONG.

HE JUST KEPT GOING.

JUST, IT WAS LIKE ONE COMMENT AFTER ANOTHER.

HE SAID, I DIDN'T MOTHER MY SON.

UM, I'M TELLING YOU IT WAS JUST LIKE INSULT AFTER INSULT.

OH MA'AM.

I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.

DO YOU FEEL IT WAS MALICIOUS? ABSOLUTELY.

I MEAN, I DIDN'T SEE NO POINT TO IT BECAUSE I HONESTLY WASN'T THAT I DIDN'T WARRANT THAT KIND OF RESPONSE.

SO I DO THINK IT WAS MALICIOUS AND IT WAS A VINDICTIVE AND I FELT LIKE IT WAS LIKE THIRD GRADE.

AGAIN, LIKE I WAS GETTING NAMED CALLED, I HAVEN'T BEEN CALLED NAMES SINCE THIRD GRADE, SO I WAS JUST SURPRISED THAT HE WAS SPEAKING TO ME LIKE THAT.

WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING SO BRAVE AND COMING UP HERE.

YEAH, THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME TALK.

I'M GOING TO CLEAR THE PANEL AND START AGAIN.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL? I HAVEN'T CHANGED MY OPINION.

WELL, I'LL GIVE YOU MY OPINION.

BOY, WHERE DO YOU START? THIS IS JUST SOMETHING ELSE.

SO WHAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HERE IS DO THE PEOPLE OF EL CAHONE OBIN $1,500 OH AND THE EXCEPTION WE ARE REQUIRED TO IF HE, IF HE ACTED WITHIN THE SCOPE OF HIS PUBLIC EMPLOYMENT, EXCEPT FOR THE EXCEPTION THAT MR. FOLEY MENTIONED ACTUAL MALICE, A CONSCIOUS INTENT TO DECEIVE, VEX ANNOY OR HARM.

I DON'T KNOW HOW ANYBODY COULD SAY HE WASN'T TRYING TO DO THAT TO MR. LANE.

THAT'S THE REAL ISSUE.

THE REAL ISSUE TO ME IS NOT WHAT IS HE SAYING AS WE'VE HEARD TODAY, FRANKLY SEVERAL OF THESE COMMENTS, IF HE SAID THOSE THINGS ARE REPULSIVE.

OH, YOU AGREE WITH ME, THEN I THINK WE'VE MET THAT.

I THINK WE'VE MET THE THRESHOLD OF ACTUAL MALICE AND WE, WE SHOULD DENY THE PEOPLE THAT SHOULD NOT PAY THEN COLLAGIO $1,500.

AND SECOND, PLEASE VOTE.

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WE HAD AN EXTRA VOTE THERE.

PLEASE.

PLEASE VOTE.

NO.

IS THIS A NO OR YES? NO.

TO DENY IT, RIGHT? SO THAT'S A YES.

CORRECT.

MOTION BY AT THREE ZERO .

COLOSSAE.

DISQUALIFIED.

THERE ARE NO COMMISSION REPORTS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

UH, LEGISLATIVE

[16. Legislative Report]

UPDATE, UH, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

THANK YOU MAYOR PRO TEM, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU THE LEGISLATIVE UPDATE THAT ESSENTIALLY SUMMARIZES THE END OF THE SESSION.

UH, THAT JUST CONCLUDED IN SACRAMENTO.

I DID WANT TO TAKE JUST A FEW MINUTES AND HIT ON, UH, A FEW OF THE ISSUES THAT WERE PASSED BY THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR THAT HAVE A PARTICULAR IMPACT ON LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES.

UM, ALL OF THESE, BY THE WAY, ARE SUMMARIZED IN THE CHART THAT YOU HAVE.

UM, SB 1421, UM, TALKS ABOUT THE RELEASE OF POLICE, SIR.

UH, CERTAIN POLICE PERSONNEL RECORDS.

UM, THIS IS TYPICALLY DONE PRIOR TO THE PASSAGE OF THIS LAW AND SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR.

THIS WAS TYPICALLY DONE BY WHAT'S KNOWN AS A PITCHESS MOTION IN COURT, UH, WHERE ONE PARTY WOULD, UH, COME BEFORE THE JUDGE AND REQUEST THE RELEASE OF PERSONNEL INFORMATION FOR POLICE OFFICERS FOR VERY SPECIFIC REASONS.

AND, UM, THIS, THIS LAW ESSENTIALLY REMOVES SOME OF WHAT'S COVERED UNDER THE PITCHESS MOTION AND ALLOWS CERTAIN POLICE PERSONNEL RECORDS TO, TO UM, UH, COME OUT THROUGH THE USE OF A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST.

UM, AB SEVEN 48 IS ALSO RELATED TO A POLICE ACTIVITY.

IT'S THE, A RELEASE OF BODY CAMERA VIDEO.

THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT, UH, THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES AND OTHER LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES OPPOSED BECAUSE THE THOUGHT WAS THAT IT WOULD, UH, HINDER, UH, POLICE INVESTIGATIONS AND A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST COULD COME IN AND THE, UH, THE BODY CAMERA VIDEO COULD BE RELEASED PRIOR TO THE COMPLETION OF THE INVESTIGATION.

SO THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT THAT WAS OPPOSED, UH, UP AND DOWN THE STATE.

GENERALLY SPEAKING, IS THAT HAVE TO BE RE RELEASED PRIOR TO THE POLICE HOLD IT? YES.

THE, THE, THE REQUEST WOULD BE MADE THROUGH A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST.

AND OF COURSE THERE ARE CERTAIN TIMELINES THAT THE CITY HAS TO ACT WITHIN THE PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS THAT ARE SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE, THE TIMELINE THE INVESTIGATION MAY BE ON, IT COULD BE TO THAT PERSON, BUT NOBODY ELSE.

IT IS POSSIBLE THAT IT CAN BE IN RESPONSE TO A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS.

AN ATTEMPT TO, UM, UH, CENTRALIZE LOCAL GOVERNMENT DECISION MAKING WITH SACRAMENTO LAWS.

UM, SB NINE 46, WHICH MANY OF US ARE FAMILIAR WITH, IT'S THE SIDEWALK VENDING LAW THAT WAS SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR.

UM, IT, IT ESSENTIALLY, AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT TOO FINE A POINT ON THIS, BUT IT ESSENTIALLY REMOVES THE ABILITY OF THE LOCAL CITIES, THE LOCAL JURISDICTIONS TO REGULATE SIDEWALK VENDING.

THAT THERE ARE SOME CAVEATS TO THAT WHICH THE STAFF WILL BE BRINGING BEFORE YOU IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS AS FAR AS REGULATION FOR A TIME, PLACE AND MANNER RESTRICTIONS.

SO GENERALLY SPEAKING, IF YOU'RE RESTRICTING ON TIME, PLACE, AND MANNER IN, IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY, UH, YOU CAN HAVE SOME REASONABLE, UM, RE, UH, RESTRICTIONS AND REGULATIONS ON THAT.

AGAIN, WE'LL BE BRINGING FORWARD SOMETHING TO YOU SHORTLY.

UM, AB 1968, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT WILL TAKE EFFECT SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR, WILL TAKE EFFECT FULLY IN 2020 AND IT, IT, UM, ESSENTIALLY SAYS IF AN INDIVIDUAL HAS BEEN ARRESTED, UH, FOR MENTAL HEALTH REASONS MORE THAN ONCE IN THE SPAN OF ONE YEAR, THEY CAN NO LONGER OWN A GUN FOR THE REMAINDER OF THEIR LIFE.

UM, SO THAT WAS GENERALLY SEEN AS A POSITIVE.

UM, THOSE WERE THE ONES THAT I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT FOR YOU.

THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHERS AND CONTAINED IN YOUR REPORT AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, WHAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THE LAST SEVERAL, UH, SESSIONS IN SACRAMENTO IS

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IN OTHER WORDS, TAKING AWAY A LOT OF THE DECISIONS THAT COUNCILS ARE ABLE TO MAKE, UH, PERTAINING TO HOW LOCAL AGENCIES AND LOCAL JURISDICTIONS WANT TO REGULATE THEIR, THEIR CITIES AND THEIR LAND USE AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND CENTRALIZING THAT IN SACRAMENTO.

THAT'S A TREND THAT'S BEEN GOING ON HERE FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS AND I DON'T THINK WE SEE THAT CHANGING ANYTIME SOON.

UM, SO THESE ARE A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES OF, OF LAWS THAT HAVE BEEN SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR THAT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON OUR OPERATIONS IN ALL CITY OPERATIONS IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF I CAN.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, ANY QUESTIONS AS A STAFF.

OF COUNCIL MEMBERS MINOR IS STATED, COUNCIL MEMBER, MCCLELLAN COUNCIL MEMBER COLLAGIO THERE WAS, I REPORTED THEM AND I'LL TAKE MY TIME RIGHT NOW FOR MY COMMENTS.

WE'RE NOW AT ACTIVITIES, REPORTS

[14. ACTIVITIES REPORTS/COMMENTS OF COUNCILMEMBERS:]

I'D LIKE TO AGAIN APOLOGIZE TO THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO SIT THROUGH AND WASTE TIME AND, AND UM, WHERE WE HAVE TO JETTISON SORT OF REAL, REAL ISSUES THAT I, THAT I HEARD IN REAL CONCERNS FROM PEOPLE JUST TO HEAR EVERY WHICH WAY, UH, WHO THEIR FAVORITE CANDIDATE IS THROUGH THROUGH OTHER, OTHER MEANS AS TO HOW THEY, THEY EXPRESS THOSE FEELINGS.

UM, AND, AND IT ALL TIES IN, EVERYTHING TIES IN TO THE, TO HOW THE MEDIA IS AND HOW IT REALLY WORKS.

AND LAST WEEK I WAS FEATURED AS A COVERED ON THE NEW YORK TIMES.

AND, UH, IT'S, IT'S BECAUSE OF THE WAY I POLITIC I GUESS IF YOU WILL.

IT'S THE, IT'S, THERE'S A REASON WHY I HAVE A, A BIG AND GROWING SOCIAL MEDIA FOLLOWING IS BECAUSE I'M NOT AFRAID TO CALL A SPADE A SPADE AND WHETHER I GET REELECTED OR NOT, UH, IT ISN'T THE END ALL BE ALL.

I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR PARTY AFFILIATION, WHETHER I GET REELECTED OR NOT, IT'S, UM, IT ISN'T THE END OF THE WORLD FOR ME.

I'M NOT A CAREER POLITICIAN, CAREER POLITICIAN.

AND I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO PASS THE BATON TO SOMEBODY ELSE WHO CAN DO A BETTER JOB THAN ME.

IT REALLY IS A THANKLESS JOB AND I, BUT I'M HAPPY TO DO IT.

UM, BUT IT'S, THEY, THEY DID A STORY BECAUSE I HA I HAD NO OTHER CHOICE BUT TO USE MY OWN SOCIAL MEDIA IN ORDER TO, TO CAPTIVATE AND REACH AN AUDIENCE THAT THE UT WON'T REPORT ON OR, UH, DO SOME OF THESE OTHER NO-NAME MEDIA OUTLETS.

THERE'S A REASON WHY THE VIDEO CAMERA COMES HERE.

THEY COME HERE FOR, FOR ME, CAUSE I GET THE RATINGS.

IT ISN'T, IT ISN'T THAT, UM, I, I'M BOMBASTIC OR I MISTREAT ANYBODY.

THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE IN TODAY.

EVERYBODY'S SO POLARIZED.

SO I WANTED TO KIND OF LAY OUT THAT FOUNDATION OVER THERE.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE SAME 10 PEOPLE THAT COME THAT COME IN AND, AND IT SUCKS BECAUSE THEY DROWN OUT GENUINE ISSUES.

I HEARD A GENTLEMAN SAY THAT LAID OUT SOME, UH, IMPROVEMENTS AND THINGS WE'VE DONE, UH, FOR THE HOMELESS, CRITICIZING A VIDEO I MADE, WHO REALLY THINKS I'LL CONE DOESN'T HAVE A HOMELESS PROBLEM.

YOU'D BE NUTS.

UM, OR, OR ANY OTHER CRITICISMS I HAVE.

I'M SIMPLY FEARLESS IN MY APPROACH.

AND OF COURSE I SETTLED THE LAWSUIT ON MY OWN.

WHAT DO YOU THINK I WAS GOING TO DO? LEAVE THE FATE OF MY HANDS THROUGH A LONG LITIGATION WITH MY COLLEAGUES.

NO WAY.

I KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE SAID.

AND, UM, AND I, I LOOK, I, I'VE HAD A BLAST BEING YOUR COUNCILMAN.

NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS AT THE ELECTION, MY CELL PHONE NUMBERS ARE ON ALL MY SIGNS.

CALL ME.

I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO HELP.

JUST LIKE I'VE HELPED MANY, YOU KNOW, MANY PEOPLE.

SO IT DOESN'T MEAN IT ISN'T THE, UH, IT ISN'T, IT ISN'T ALL WHAT IT'S MADE OUT TO BE IS WHAT I'M TELLING YOU.

YOU KNOW, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THE JOB.

I'LL GIVE A 200%, BUT POLITICS AND DIRTY SMEARS AND ALL THESE TAX TACTICS IS THE REASON WHY ALCOHOL LOOKS LIKE THE WAY IT IS.

WHY YOU HAVE 30 PLUS PEOPLE LIVE BELOW THE POVERTY LINE.

THERE'S A HOMELESS PROBLEM.

PEOPLE FLOCK IN MY AREA, IN FLETCHER HILLS AND IN GROSSMONT AREA TO GO SHOP IN SANTI.

NOBODY'S GOING TO DENY THAT YET.

YET PEOPLE APPLAUD OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE VANDALIZING MY SIGNS.

WHAT DO YOU APPLAUD IN GRAFFITI MAKING OUR CITY LOOK LIKE CRAP.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE ME, DON'T VOTE FOR ME.

SIMPLE.

AND, AND UM, I, I DON'T SUBSCRIBE TO THE MARXIST OR FASCIST IDEOLOGY THAT COME UP HERE.

I JUST DON'T DO IT.

I MEAN, YOU, YOU, YOU HEARD THE OTHER GUY SPEAK AND USE PROFANITY AND, AND BE BOMBASTIC.

I DON'T WANT THAT GUY VOTING FOR ME.

NEVER.

I DON'T REPRESENT THAT GUY.

I'M NOT SUBSCRIBED TO THAT OR, OR ANY SORT OF, UM, MANIPULATION OF TRUTH.

LIKE WE DON'T HAVE ANY HOMELESS PROBLEMS AND WE'RE DOING SUCH A GREAT JOB.

THAT'S WHY HOMELESS PEOPLE SIGN A STAND UNDER THE NO PAN HANDLING SIGN PANHANDLING.

LET'S BE REAL.

YOU DON'T WANT TO GO FOR ME.

IT'S TOTALLY FINE.

UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE BEAUTY ABOUT

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THIS WHOLE THING.

SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY FOR WHOEVER'S LEFT AND TO THE 50,000 PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO SEE THIS ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA.