Feb 08, 2022 City Council Meeting 7pm

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THERE'S A GENTLEMEN.

[ CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Bill Wells]

THE MOODY IS CALLED THE ORDER I'D LIKE TO ASK THE CLERK TO CALL THE ROLE OF COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

WOULD YOU ALL, PLEASE STAY WITH ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, TO THE REMAIN STANDING FOR A BRIEF MOMENT OF SILENCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU.

STEPHANIE AGENDA CHANGES.

UH, NO SIR.

COUNCIL MEMBERS.

NOPE.

AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS A MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE ALCOHOL REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA COMMENTS RELATED TO THAT ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

I'LL BE TAKING THE TIME OF THE ADAMANTS HEARD STATE LAW PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ON ITEMS, NOT ON THE AGENDA.

HOWEVER, COUNSEL AUTHORITY AGENCY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY SPOT STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS AND AN ITEM MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT? WE HAVE NO CARDS HERE, SO I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND,

[101. Interviews for City Commissions RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council conducts interviews for one (1) seat on the Personnel Commission and one (1) seat on the Planning Commission, and authorizes the City Clerk to continue accepting applications for future commission vacancies.]

CAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE WE MAY HAVE A LONG DISCUSSION ON THE OTHER AGENDA ITEM.

I TODAY WE'LL BE CONDUCTING INTERVIEWS FOR SEATS ON THE PERSONAL AND PLANNING COMMISSIONS.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM.

YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK, WHICH MAY BE FOLLOWED WITH QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL.

AFTER A NEW COMMISSIONER IS SELECTED OR WE APPOINTED, WE WILL ASK THEM TO TAKE THE OATH OF OFFICE AND LET'S START WITH PERSONNEL COMMISSION AND IT LOOKS LIKE DENNIS DAVIES HAS, UM, WITHDREW HIS WITHDRAWN, HIS APPLICATION.

SO WE ARE, THEN WE HAVE RICHARD NASA, WHICH ARE YOU HERE? I RICHARD, HOW ARE YOU, SIR? VERY WELL, THANK YOU.

CAN I TAKE THIS OFF PLEASE? WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT MORE I CAN TELL YOU THAN I DID ON MY APPLICATION.

BUT, UM, AFTER I GOT OUT OF THE ARMY, I SPENT THE LAST 55 YEARS SERVING THE CITY OF ALCOHOL AND THE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY IN A VARIETY OF WAYS.

I THINK SERVICE IS IMPORTANT.

I'D LIKE VERY MUCH TO CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

OKAY.

UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS GENTLEMEN COMMENTS, SCOTT, PLEASE.

UH, THEN SERGEANT NASSSA, UH, WAS IN CHARGE OF THE SCHOOL SAFETY PATROL WHEN I WAS AT FLETCHER HILLS ELEMENTARY AND HE IS HAD A STELLAR CAREER FOR THE PEOPLE OF ALCOHOL AND THROUGHOUT HIS POLICE SERVICE 30 SOME YEARS PROBABLY.

AND HAS CONTINUED TO SERVE THE CITY WELL, UH, ON THE PERSONNEL COMMISSIONING AND I FULLY SUPPORT HIS REAPPOINTMENT.

GREAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? THANK YOU, SIR.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANKS.

UM, LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE ON THIS ONE.

UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

OKAY.

UM, PLEASE VOTE MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

CONGRATULATIONS, MR. NAISA.

THANK YOU FOR, UH, TAKING THE TIME TO APPLY AND BE WILLING BEING WILLING TO SERVE.

UH, DO YOU WANT TO DO THE AUTHORIZED NOW? DO YOU WANNA WAIT TILL THE END? WHAT, WHEN WE DID TOGETHER, WE'LL FIND TOGETHER.

SO NEXT IS FOR PLANNING COMMISSION AND LET'S START WITH BRIAN GRIFFIN.

I'M A SCRIPT.

AND HOW ARE YOU? I'M WELL, THANK YOU, SIR.

UM, THE FLOOR IS YOURS, BRIAN GRIFFIN, UM, IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE EVER BEEN IN THIS BUILDING FIRST TIME I'VE EVER SEEN, UH, ANY OF YOU GUYS.

SO THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

UM, UH, THANK YOU FOR INTERVIEWING ME.

SO, UM, I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN IN OKLAHOMA.

UM, SINCE I WAS 12, I MOVED HERE IN 98 AND

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MY FAMILY MOVED HERE WHEN MY DAD'S BASE CLOSED UP IN THE BAY AREA.

WE CAME HERE AND, UM, I'VE LIVED HERE FOR THE MOST PART OF HER SENTENCE.

WE'VE TIME IN LAKESIDE AND WENT OVERSEAS FOR, UM, THREE YEARS IN ITALY.

AND BESIDES THAT I'D BEEN IN OKLAHOMA AND, UM, UH, GREW TO LOVE THE CITY.

UM, I LOVE THAT WE'RE RURAL.

I LOVE THAT WE'RE CONSERVATIVE.

UM, THERE'S SO MUCH TO LOVE ABOUT THE CITY.

UM, AND SO WHAT I, WHY AM I HERE? I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY THE QUESTION.

WHY AM I HERE? I LOVE THE CITY.

GREAT.

EVERYBODY WAS, UH, THAT'S GOING TO SHOW UP HERE ANYWAYS TO A COUNCIL MEETING.

UM, MY PASTOR LAST YEAR, UH, 4TH OF JULY, UH, SPOKE ABOUT HOW HE WANTS HIS CONSTITUENTS BASICALLY TO RUN FOR OFFICE.

AND I WAS LIKE, WELL, PEOPLE STARTED TURNING TO ME BEING LIKE, HEY BRIAN, YOU SHOULD DO THAT.

LIKE, THIS IS ALL RIGHT UP YOUR ALLEY.

AND I'M LIKE, WHAT? WHY, WHY DOES EVERYBODY THINK THIS NOW? THIS IS CRAZY.

AND SO I ACTUALLY, LIKE, I DON'T EVEN KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE CITY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DO.

UM, SO I DECIDED TO REACH OUT TO MY KIDNEY, COUNCILMAN, STEVE GOLDWELL.

I SENT YOU A MESSAGE ON FACEBOOK ON JULY 5TH LAST YEAR.

AND I SAID, HEY, WHAT DOES SOMEONE LIKE? HERE'S THIS MESSAGE THAT TAKES TO HEART.

WHAT DO I DO? AND UM, YOU ENCOURAGE ME TO RUN AGAINST YOU IN A 2024, WHICH I HAD NO INTENTIONS OF DOING THAT.

AND, UM, BUT YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE NOT READY TO JUMP THAT SHIP YET, MAYBE YOU SHOULD GET INVOLVED IN THE CITY COMMISSIONS AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT YOU LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT.

AND SO I DECIDED, I LOOKED AT ALL THE PERSONNEL COMMISSIONERS.

I LOOKED AT THE, THE LESSEE FIELD AND THEN I SAW THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW MY RESUME.

I'M UM, I'M A CONTRACTING OFFICER FOR THE NAVY.

WE DO RFPS WHERE YOU DO STATEMENT OF WORKS.

WE REVIEW STUFF OR INDUSTRY.

UH, WE WRITE ALL KINDS OF REGULATION AND WE NEGOTIATE WITH INDUSTRY.

WE HOLD INDUSTRY MEETINGS AND, UM, BASICALLY IT'S WHAT I'VE DONE MY WHOLE LIFE, UH, WHOLE ADULT LIFE.

I BRIEFLY WORKED AT ENTERPRISE RENT-A-CAR DOWN THE STREET FROM HERE, UH, AS MY FIRST JOB OUT OF COLLEGE, UM, I HAVE A BUSINESS DEGREE AND THEN I ALSO HAVE A MASTER'S DEGREE IN BUSINESS, WHY I RECEIVED THE HIGHEST HONORS AND UNIVERSITY OF REDLANDS.

UH, SO I FEEL LIKE I'M QUALIFIED TO DO THIS JOB.

I FEEL LIKE I'D BE AN ASSET TO, UM, TO THE CITY.

AND, UM, SOMETHING I JUST WANTED TO SAY IS KIND OF MY VISION FOR THE CITY IS, UM, MATTHEW, UH, I THINK IT'S FIVE 14 STATES.

YOU KNOW, YOU ARE THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD AND A CITY ON A HILL CANNOT BE HIDDEN.

AND KIND OF GOING BACK TO THAT CITY ON A HILL SHALL NOT BE HIDDEN.

HE'S BASICALLY TALKING ABOUT A BEACON OF HOPE.

YOU KNOW, HE WANTS CHRISTIANS TO BE A BEACON OF HOPE TO THE WORLD.

WELL, A CITY SHOULD BE A BEACON OF HOPE.

AND HOW DO WE DO THAT? UH, WHAT I THINK, WHICH WE SHOULD DO IS, UH, THE CITY SHOULD TAKE CARE OF ITS CITIZENS.

YOU KNOW, THE HOMELESS PROBLEM.

UH, WE SHOULD, UH, UH, BE FINANCIALLY STABLE AND, UM, PROVIDE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE CARE OF ONE ANOTHER AND BE FAIR AND USE COMMON SENSE STUFF.

THAT'S THE END OF MY THING, THREE MINUTES ARE UP.

YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, STEVE.

SO ON A PLANNING COMMISSION, YOU OFTEN HAVE TO PLAY JUDGE IN A SENSE OF BETWEEN PERHAPS A DEVELOPER AND NEIGHBORS.

SO LET'S SAY YOUR STREET HAS HALF ACRE OR ONE ACRE, LOTS.

MOST OF THE HOUSES OR THE HOUSES ARE ON HALF ACRE OR ONE ACRE, LOTS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.

THEY'RE ZONED FOR THREE HOMES ON ANY ONE ACRE LOT.

AND THE DEVELOPER COMES AND SAYS, I'D LIKE TO PUT FIVE HOMES ON THERE.

YOU THINK? WELL, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A, SEE HOW THE STREET COULD ACCOMMODATE THAT.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE, HEAR THEM OUT.

UM, WOULD IT BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THE CITY? IS IT JUST GOING TO BE HAPHAZARDLY PUT ON THERE JUST TO MAKE A QUICK BUCK OR IS IT GOING TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, PRODUCE WHILE THE SURROUNDING AREA IS BRINGING LIFE TO THE CITY? UM, I DON'T BELIEVE IN A LOT OF RED TAPE, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE TO DO THAT FOR MY JOB.

I FEEL LIKE I LIKE TO TRY TO FIND A WAY TO, YES, IF POSSIBLE.

I LIKE TO BE FLEXIBLE.

UM, YOU KNOW, THE FAR, SORRY, FEDERAL ACQUISITION REGULATION, UH, IT SAYS IN THERE, IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, IF AT THE FAR DOES IT SPECIFICALLY DENY IT, YOU CAN DO IT.

SO I HAVE TO TELL MY CONTRACTING OFFICERS AND MY FELLOW PEOPLE THAT, HEY, JUST BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY DONE IT THIS WAY.

UH, AND JUST CAUSE, UH, MAYBE THE LETTER LIKE TRIES TO REALLY GO DO IT THAT WAY.

SOMETIMES WE CAN SAY YES, SOMETIMES WE CAN, UM, GET TO THE, YOU KNOW, A COMPROMISE.

UH, THAT'S WHAT I THINK THAT'S HOW I WOULD APPROACH IT.

AND UM, IF, IF IT MAKES FINANCIAL SENSE, YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T WANT TO DENY A BUSINESS.

I THINK THAT'S PART OF TAKING CARE OF ONE ANOTHER.

I THINK THAT'S PART OF FINANCIAL STABILITY.

SO, UM, I WOULD TRY TO PROMOTE BUSINESS AS MUCH AS I COULD, BUT WITHOUT DETRIMENTING THE CITY.

OF COURSE.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PHIL? SO AS COUNCILMAN GLOBAL SAID, PLANNING COMMISSION DEALS A LOT WITH LAND USE REGULATION.

SO

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TALK, TALK TO ME ABOUT, UH, DEVELOPER'S PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS VERSUS THE COMMUNITY AND THE INTEGRITY OF A, OF A RULE OR, OR SUBURBAN AREA.

YEAH.

UM, FIRST I, I VERY MUCH BELIEVE IN PROPERTY RIGHTS.

I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO, UM, TO THE MOST EXTENT THAT YOU CAN WITH YOUR OWN PROPERTY.

UH, LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF RED TAPE.

UM, HOWEVER, NO ONE WANTS TO SEE A GAS STATION NEXT TO, YOU KNOW, YOUR HOUSE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T WANT TO, YOU DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH LIKE THE RURAL COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE, RIGHT.

UM, WE HAVE A LOT OF HUSBANDRY.

WE HAVE CHICKENS WE HAVE, SO WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT TAKES AWAY FROM THE BEAUTIFICATION OF THE CITY WITH THAT.

AND SO I KNOW THERE IS A FINE LINE AND YOU DO HAVE TO WALK THAT, UH, AS PART OF THEIR CITY PLANNING COMMISSION.

AND I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT THE CITY REALLY DOES.

I MEAN, THEY HAVE TO DO THE RESEARCH.

THEY HAVE TO FIND OUT WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE SITUATION AND HEAR FROM THE CITIZENS THEMSELVES, THE PEOPLE AROUND ME AND SURROUNDING THE AREAS.

AND THEN THEY PROVIDE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO YOU GUYS.

AND SO YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT RESEARCH.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY TALK TO THE CITIZENS DIRECTLY, YOU'LL HEAR FROM US AND THEN WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS I, IF YOU COULD SEE FROM MY RESUME, I GOT PROMOTED PRETTY MUCH EVERY PLACE I'VE BEEN IN THE GOVERNMENT.

AND PART OF THAT IS BEING PROACTIVE AND DOING THAT RESEARCH AND MAKING THAT PHONE CALL.

I DON'T LIKE TO SIT IDLY AND JUST HAVE THINGS COME MY WAY.

I LIKE TO ACTUALLY FIND OUT FOR MYSELF, ANYBODY ELSE.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THANKS FOR COMING.

THANK YOU GUYS.

YEAH, TONY.

HI.

HOW ARE YOU DOING? THANK YOU.

HONORABLE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THIS INTERVIEW YOU HAD BEFORE YOU MY APPLICATION AND RECORD OF BEING A PLANNING COMMISSIONER FOR 16 YEARS, SINCE 2006, I'VE SEEN MANY PLANNING COMMISSIONERS COME AND GO, AND I'M GOING TO RELATE MY EXPERIENCE AND THOUGHTS SINCE PLANNING COMMISSION'S DUTIES ARE TO BE AN ADVISORY GROUP FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.

I WILL SHARE MY EXPERIENCES WITH APPOINTED COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE TO SOME DEGREE PROFESSIONAL PLANNERS.

I HAVE FOUND THAT THE MAJORITY HAVE NOT WORKED OUT WELL FOR THE CITY AND THE PLANNING DEPARTMENTS, EXCEPT FOR ONE, HAVE A SHARE MY THOUGHTS ON THIS SUBJECT.

WITH SOME EXAMPLES, I BELIEVE IN THE CONSTITUTIONAL PRINCIPLES OF SEPARATION OF POWERS AND INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS, LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF PROPERTY GOVERNMENT ESTABLISHED BY AND TO SERVE.

WE, THE PEOPLE, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE NATIONAL LEVEL AND IN THE STATE LEVEL OF AUTHORITY HAS INVERTED AND BECOME UPSIDE DOWN.

THE SENTIMENT IS WE, THE GOVERNMENT ESTABLISHED, WE, THE PEOPLE BY THE AUTHORITY OF PROFESSIONAL WISDOM IN SUCH A SCENARIO, THE PRINCIPLE OF SEPARATION OF POWERS IS ILLUSORY AND NOT A REALITY.

A PRIME EXAMPLE OF THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE OF COMMISSIONERS ON UNIFORM STATE LAWS ESTABLISHED IN THE 18 HUNDREDS.

THIS GROUP OF LAWYERS INITIATED AND WROTE LAWS TO LOBBY CONGRESS TO MAKE THEM THE LAWS OF THE LAND.

THIS PROFESSIONAL GROUP IS EXALTED IN ALL OF OUR HALLS OF GOVERNMENT.

NORMALLY DO THEY MAKE LAWS FOR OUR NATION, BUT ARE INVOLVED IN EVERY FACET OF AUTHORITY? THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN MEMBERS OF THIS GROUP ARE MOSTLY MEMBERS OF CONGRESS AND SENATE, AND ARE PRIMARILY ELECTED AS THE PRESIDENTS LEGISLATURES IN THE JUDICIARY AND HOLD SUPREME COURT OFFICES.

WE HAVE AN ELITE GROUP OF PROFESSIONALS DECIDING WHAT LAWS ARE TO BE ESTABLISHED, HOW THEY ARE TO BE EXECUTED AND INTERPRETED.

IN REALITY, THERE IS NO LONGER A SEPARATION OF POWERS BY THE COUNTRY, RUN BY ELITES, GIVING A PUBLIC ILLUSION THAT THERE EXISTS SEPARATION OF POWERS ESTABLISHED BY WE, THE PEOPLE, I BELIEVE THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS ARE NOT TO BE AN EXTENSION OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT'S COMPETITION, BUT RATHER A WE THAT PEOPLE PUBLIC CHECK UNDER PROFESSIONAL AUTHORITY AND AN ARM OF THE CITY COUNCILS WISDOM IN THEIR DELIBERATIONS ON THE STATE LEVEL IN ROADS HAVE ALSO BEEN MADE IN THE LOCAL

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THE ABILITY TO DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES WHAT THEIR LOCAL ZONING AND WELLBEING IS TO BE AGAIN, INSTEAD OF WE, THAT PEOPLE ESTABLISH THE ENVIRONMENT OF THEIR COMMUNITY GOVERNMENT IN THEIR CAPACITY.

AND THEY, THE NAME PROFESSIONALISM HAS TAKEN THE MANTLE OF AUTHORITY UPON THEMSELVES.

IN CONCLUSION, A PROFESSIONAL PANISH SHOULD NOT BE PART OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE IT IS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST CONTRARY TO THE BENEFIT OF THE COMMUNITY.

LIKEWISE, A TEACHER SHOULD NOT BE PART OF A SCHOOL BOARD BECAUSE THEY PROBABLY ARE MEMBERS OF A TEACHER'S UNION AND LIKELY SYMPATHETIC TO THEM AND THEIR AGENDA INSTEAD OF THE STUDENTS AND THEIR PARENTS CONCERNS.

MY VOICE, IF WE APPOINTED IN THE OFFICE OF PLANNING CONDITION WOULD BE FOR THE PEOPLE YOU HAD BEFORE YOU 16 YEARS RECORD OF MY VOTES AND RECOMMENDATIONS, WHOM WOULD YOU VOTE FOR? THANK YOU, TORI.

AND LET'S SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, ANYBODY.

WELL, THANK YOU, TONY, FOR YOUR SERVICE ON THE COMMISSION, I'LL ASK YOU THE SAME QUESTION THAT I ASKED THE OTHER CANDIDATE.

TALK TO ME ABOUT YOUR PHILOSOPHY AND IDEAS ON BALANCING PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS AND MAINTAINING COMMUNITY INTEGRITY WITH REGARD TO DEVELOPMENT.

WELL, AS I SAID, WHAT I JUST SAID, UH, I DO BELIEVE IN, UH, PROPERTY RIGHTS.

AND I BELIEVE I SAID THIS TO COUNCILMAN GOEBEL BEFORE.

NO, THERE'S THE PRINCIPLES OF THE INDIVIDUAL, THE FEW AND THE MANY, THAT MEANS THINGS BENEFIT THE INDIVIDUAL, SOME BENEFIT THE FEW AND SOME BENEFIT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

AND USUALLY I LOOK AT THAT, IF IT BENEFITS EVERYBODY THEN GREAT, THERE'S NO PROBLEM, BUT AT LEAST I LIKE TO HAVE TWO OUT OF THE THREE.

SO IF IT BENEFITS THE INDIVIDUAL, THAT'S GREAT.

AND IF IT BENEFITS ALSO THE FEW THAT'S WONDERFUL, I WILL GO THAT DIRECTION, UH, OR, OR ANY COMBINATION THEREOF.

BUT SOMETIMES IT IS A DIFFICULT DECISION TO MAKE BECAUSE DRAWING THE LINE BETWEEN THOSE IS NOT EASILY DONE, BUT I THINK EVERYONE NEEDS TO HAVE A HEART OF COMPASSION TOWARDS EVERYONE ELSE AND WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE.

I MEAN, PROPERTY RIGHTS IS FINE, AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T IMPINGE ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S RIGHTS.

SURE.

ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU, TONY.

ALRIGHT.

UM, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT'S UP TO US AT THIS POINT.

IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO ENGAGE WITH SOME DISCUSSION OR SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, I'VE GOT A COMMENT.

I THINK MR. GRIFFIN IS, IS ON THE PATH.

I THINK HE'S ON THE RIGHT PATH.

HE MENTIONED IT WAS HIS FIRST TIME IN THE BUILDING FIRST TIME BEFORE THE GROUP.

GREAT, GREAT STEP TO BECOME ENGAGED.

I THINK SOMETIMES IT TAKES A COUPLE OF STEPS TO GET TO WHERE YOU NEED TO GO.

SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE INITIATIVE TO BE HERE.

I WILL PROBABLY LOOK TO MR. FOR A REAPPOINTMENT.

I APPRECIATE IT, MR. GRIFFIN'S APPLICATION, WHERE HE SAID, UM, PLANNING THE UPKEEP OF OLD NAVAL NAVAL FACILITIES AND THE NAVAL BASES ARE A LOT LIKE SMALL CITIES, GROCERY STORES, ROADS HOUSES, OFFICE BUILDINGS, HOSPITALS, SCHOOLS.

THEY ARE REALLY LIKE MANY CITIES.

AND I APPRECIATED YOUR, YOUR, UM, YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON MY QUESTION IN THAT IT'S A FINE BALANCE.

IT IS A FINE BALANCE.

UM, HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN COMMUNITY INTEGRITY WHILE STILL, UM, UH, KEEPING PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS INTACT THAT, UM, THAT'S A, THAT'S A FINE THING.

AND, UM, I WAS A PLANNING COMMISSIONER AS WELL, AND IT'S, IT'S NOT AN EASY DECISION TO MAKE.

SO I THINK YOU HAVE A GOOD PERSPECTIVE IN THAT, THAT BEING SAID, I DO FEEL THAT, UH, KEEP COMING TO, TO, TO OUR CITY MEETINGS, KEEP COMING, KEEP LOOKING INTO WAYS TO GET ENGAGED IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

THERE'S THOUSANDS OF WAYS TO DO IT.

UM, AND W WHEN IN PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS, WHEN WE'VE HAD A DOZEN PEOPLE APPLYING, UM, I, MYSELF LOOK FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD, UM, YEARS AND YEARS OF VOLUNTEER EXPERIENCE AND THEY, THEY MAKE THEIR WAY AROUND CITY INITIATIVES AND INVOLVEMENT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO KEEP COMING AND KEEP GETTING INVOLVED AND KEEP UPPING YOUR, UH, YOUR KNOWLEDGE ON, ON ISSUES REGARDING THE CITY.

AND I THINK YOU HAVE A BRIGHT FUTURE.

SO THANK YOU FOR COMING IN AND APPLYING AT THIS POINT, I WOULD ALSO, UH, UM, FAVORITE TONY, SO TOO LATE TO CONTINUE.

SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? YEAH, UH, I WOULD, UH, MOVE TO A POINT TONY, SO TLA AS OUR PLANNING COMMISSIONER SECOND.

ALRIGHT, PLEASE VOTE

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WELL, CONGRATULATIONS, MS. T-RAY MR. GRIFFIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

UM, FOR COMING AND FOR GETTING INVOLVED AND DON'T STOP YOU'LL, YOU'LL GET THERE, MR. MAYOR, BEFORE WE, UH, DO THE SWEARING IN, WE DON'T NEED A VOTE ON THIS, BUT SOME DIRECTION WE HAVE TYPICALLY HAD A PROCESS IN WHICH THE COUNCIL OPENS UP, UM, RECEIVING APPLICATIONS.

AND THEN THERE'S SORT OF A DEADLINE TO SUBMIT.

THERE THERE'S MANY CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES THAT JUST ACCEPT APPLICATIONS ONGOING.

AND THAT WAY THERE'S NOT SORT OF THIS, THIS CALL FOR APPLICATIONS, OF COURSE, AS, AS TERM COMES NEAR THE END, WE WOULD THEN DO A PUSH FOR MORE APPLICATIONS.

BUT IF THE COUNCIL'S OKAY, WE'D LIKE TO JUST KEEP APPLICATION OPEN FOR A ONE-YEAR PERIOD.

AND EVERY ONE YEAR THAT I HAVE TO RENEW, IF THAT'S OKAY.

THANK YOU.

EVERYBODY SEEMS TO BE IN AGREEMENT.

ALL RIGHT, MR. WARTSILA, MR. NASA, IF YOU CAN COME UP AND TAKE THE OATH OF OFFICE, I'D APPRECIATE IT.

DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR SOLEMNLY SWEAR.

OH, SAY IT TOGETHER.

SUPPORT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA INSTALLED ENEMIES FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC BEAR, TRUE FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

I TAKE THIS OBLIGATION FREELY WITHOUT ANY MENTAL RESERVATION OR PURPOSE OF EVASION THAT I WILL THEN FACE DISCHARGED UPON WHICH I'M ABOUT TO ENTER.

OKAY.

NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO

[100. Introduction of an Ordinance adopting a District Map for Council Member Elections in El Cajon RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council: Opens the public hearing and receives testimony; Closes the public hearing; and Moves to INTRODUCE the next ORDINANCE, in order.]

I DIDN'T WANT A HUNDRED IS THE INTRODUCTION OF AN ORDINANCE TO ADOPT THE DISTRICT MAP FOR COUNCIL MEMBER ELECTIONS.

AND I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR CITY MANAGER TO INTRODUCE THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, UH, BEFORE, UH, WE RECOMMEND OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY INTRODUCE THIS ITEM AND THE CITY'S OVERALL EFFORT TO ENGAGE OUR WONDERFULLY DIVERSE COMMUNITY.

IN THIS REDISTRICTING PROCESS TONIGHT, THE CITY COUNCIL WILL CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE TO ADOPT PUBLIC MAP 100.

THE MAP IS THE CITY'S CURRENT DISTRICT MAP FOR ELECTIONS AND MEETS ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS ESTABLISHED BY THE FEDERAL VOTING RIGHTS ACT AND THE CALIFORNIA FAIRS MAPS ACT BRIEFLY.

I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE MANY WAYS IN WHICH THE CITY HAS NOT ONLY MET, BUT HAS ACTUALLY EXCEEDED MEETING REQUIREMENTS OF THE CALIFORNIA FAIR MAPS ACT.

AS YOU KNOW, THE PURPOSE OF THE FAIR MAPS ACT IS TO ENCOURAGE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION THROUGHOUT THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS TO ACHIEVE THIS.

THE CITY BEGAN THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS EARLY, EVEN BACK IN JULY.

WELL, BEFORE MOST OTHER CITIES IN THIS COUNTY STARTED THAT PROCESS.

THIS HAS ALLOWED FOR A BROADER OUTREACH EFFORT AND PUBLIC PARTICIPATION THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS.

THE FAIR MAPS ACT SPECIFICALLY REQUIRES CITIES TO PROVIDE TRANSLATED MATERIALS AND TRANSLATE DOORS DURING HEARINGS.

IF MORE THAN 3% OF THE POPULATION SPEAKS A SPECIFIC LANGUAGE AS DETERMINED BY THE CALIFORNIA STATE, UH, SECRETARY OF STATE FOR ALCOHOL.

AND THIS MEANS THAT LANGUAGES SHOULD BE INTERPRETED AND PROVIDE A TRANSLATION FOR AN ARABIC, SPANISH AND SOMALI.

THE CITY ALSO ELECTED TO TRANSLATE MATERIALS IN IN DARI AS WELL.

SOMETHING THAT WE WERE NOT REQUIRED TO DO, BUT TO ACCOMMODATE OUR, UM, AGAIN, OUR DIVERSE POPULATION.

THE CITY HAS ALSO GONE FAR BEYOND THE FAIR MAPS ACT REQUIREMENT TO TRANSLATE A WEBPAGE AND THE THREE PRESCRIBED LANGUAGES TRANSLATE FLYERS BANNERS, PRESS RELEASES, SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS, PRESENTATION, SPEAKER SLIPS, AND EVEN A VIDEO TUTORIAL ON THE ONLINE MAPPING APP.

ALL THINGS NOT REQUIRED UNDER THE FAIR MAPS ACT.

THE CITY IS REQUIRED TO HOST FOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS, ONE TO BE HOSTED BY STAFF AND THREE BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

THE CITY COUNCIL HAS ACTUALLY ATTENDED ALL FOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS

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THE ACT REQUIRED THE CITY TO HOST AT LEAST ONE HEARING AFTER 6:00 PM OR ON A WEEKEND.

THE CITY ACTUALLY HOSTED THREE HEARINGS AFTER 6:00 PM AND ONE HEARING ON A SATURDAY, AGAIN, EXCEEDING THE FAIR MAPS ACT.

THESE ARE JUST A FEW OF THE WAYS THAT THE CITY HAS DEMONSTRATED ITS COMMITMENT TO ENGAGING OUR COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS BASED ON DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL AT THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING STAFF RECOMMENDS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING CONSIDER THE ORDINANCE PRESENTED TO YOU, UM, THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, IF THERE'S QUESTIONS STAFF DOES HAVE AS, UH, POSSIBLE SLIDES, SOME DATA COMPARISONS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO LOOK AT, AND ALSO, UM, UH, AT LEAST A FEW IMAGES OF MAPS THAT YOU HAVE, UH, LOOKED AT.

AND PREVIOUSLY THAT CONCLUDES STAFF'S REPORT.

WE'D RECOMMEND YOU OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING COUNSELING, THE QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

OKAY.

UH, ANGELA, HOW MANY SPIRIT CARDS WE HAVE? WE HAVE 10 SPEAKER CARDS ON OUR FUN.

ALSO OPENED UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AND START WITH OUR FIRST SPEAKER.

THE FIRST SPEAKER IS YASMINA B HELLO, GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS HEARING AN EVENING HEARING AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR ENGAGEMENT IN THE PROCESS THUS FAR.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

MY NAME IS AND I'M THE ADVOCACY COORDINATOR WITH MUSH THE ARAB COMMUNITY CENTER OF SAN DIEGO FOR OVER EIGHT MONTHS.

NOW WE HAVE BEEN MAPPING OUR COMMUNITY AND BEEN ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THE ALCOHOL REDISTRICT IN PROCESS BY CHOOSING THE EXISTING CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT MAP TO APPROVE, RATHER THAN ANY OF THE 12 PUBLICLY SUBMITTED MAPS, YOU ARE NOT ENGAGING IN THIS PROCESS IN A SINCERE WAY THAT ADHERES TO COMMUNITY INPUT, A REQUIREMENT OF THE FAIR MAPS ACT MATH ONE 12 IN PARTICULAR IS A COMMUNITY DRIVEN MAP THAT CLEARLY DEFINES THE BOUNDARIES OF THE ARAB COMMUNITIES IN OKLAHOMA.

IN RESPONSE TO COMMENTS MADE AT THE FINAL REDISTRICTING HEARING.

OUR MAP IS PROVEN TO BE GEOGRAPHICALLY CONTIGUOUS BY DEMOGRAPHICS.

THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN MAP 100, WHICH IS THE CURRENT MAP AND MAP ONE 12 IS THAT ONE 12 HAVE, HAS SMALLER POPULATION DEVIATION THAN 100, 1 12 HOUR MAP SUBMITTED BY THE MUSLIM CENTER IS CURRENT WHY 100 IS OUTDATED AND ONE 12 CONSIDERS COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST WHILE 100 SPLITS THEM.

SEVERAL OF YOU IN THE PAST HEARING ALSO MENTIONED HOW YOU REPRESENT US IN YOU'RE HERE FOR ALL COMMUNITIES.

AND WHILE WE APPRECIATE THE SENTIMENT IN OUR, IN OUR EFFORTS TO REACH OUT TO YOU IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS, DO YOU DID NOT RESPOND TO US.

YOU DID NOT RESPOND TO OUR EMAILS.

YOU DID NOT EVEN RESPOND TO OUR COMMUNITY'S REQUEST TO MEET WITH YOU.

SO THAT SHOWS THAT YOU DO NOT REPRESENT US, UNFORTUNATELY.

AND IT'S VERY DISAPPOINTING BECAUSE WE REALLY WANTED TO ENGAGE WITH YOU IN THIS PROCESS.

I URGE YOU TO VOTE AGAINST THE ADOPTION OF THE EXISTING CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT MAP TONIGHT, AND TO VOTE, TO APPROVE MAP ONE 12.

IF YOU VOTE TO APPROVE THE EXISTING MAP FROM 2017, YOU ARE IGNORING COMMUNITY OF INTEREST TESTIMONY THAT HAS BEEN COMPILING FOR THE PAST EIGHT MONTHS.

YOU'RE IGNORING HUNDREDS OF COMMUNITY WHO HAVE RESETTLED IN ALCOHOL SINCE 2010, NOT EVEN A HUNDRED THOUSANDS OF COMMUNITY OF ARAB COMMUNITY MEMBERS OF AFGHAN COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN SO MANY MORE THAT IS VIOLATING THE SPIRIT OF THE FAIR MAPS ACT AND IS IN DENIAL ABOUT THE GROWTH OF THIS CITY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

AND I HOPE AND URGE YOU TO RECONSIDER HAVE A WONDERFUL NIGHT.

DID ANY OF YOUR GROUP APPLY FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE, UH, THE OTHER COMMISSION THAT WAS VEILED TONIGHT? WE DID NOT.

THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU WANT TO BE MORE INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY.

THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN WOULDN'T.

THIS HAVE BEEN A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY.

IT WOULD HAVE, IF WE HAD KNOWN ABOUT IT AHEAD OF TIME AND HAD INTENTIONAL OUTREACH.

YES.

WAS IT NOT LISTED ON THEIR WEBSITE GRANT? IT WAS.

AND WE DON'T, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO CONTACT EVERY INDIVIDUAL RESIDENT AND LET THEM KNOW I'M I'M NOT TRYING TO BE HARSH WITH YOU.

I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY IT THERE'S THERE'S ACTIONS.

AND THEN THERE'S THINGS THAT PEOPLE SAY, CORRECT.

AND THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS CHOOSING TO GET INVOLVED WITH AT THIS POINT IN THE FUTURE.

OUR HOPE IS TO GET INVOLVED IN COMMISSIONS, IN COMMUNITY PLANNING GROUPS, IN, UH, VOTING IN A CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS,

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SO THIS IS HOW WE START, BUT THIS IS NOT THE END.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH YES.

STEVE, YOU GOT A QUESTION.

THE COUNTY SUPERVISORS DIDN'T CHOOSE YOUR MAP EITHER.

DID THEY? I'M SORRY.

THE COUNTY SUPERVISORS DIDN'T CHOOSE THE MAP YOU SUBMITTED EITHER.

DID THEY? I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT IS RELEVANT TO TONIGHT.

OKAY.

IT'S A QUESTION.

THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DIDN'T CHOOSE.

THE MAP YOU SUBMITTED EITHER DID, DID ACTUALLY IT SPLIT ELCA HONED INTO TWO ASSEMBLY DISTRICTS.

INTERSTATE EIGHT IS WITH CHRIS WARD AND BLOWS WITH DR.

WEBER.

IT ACTUALLY SPLIT ALCOHOL AND A HALF.

CORRECT.

AND THAT WAS NOT WHAT WE SUBMITTED.

WE SUBMITTED OUTGOING AND COMPLETE, BUT IT COMBINED THE PART OF AQUAMAN WITH THE REST OF THE COMMUNITIES.

SO IF THE STATE DIDN'T ACCEPT THE MAP YOU SUBMITTED AND THE COUNTY DIDN'T SUBMIT THE MAP YOU SUBMITTED, WHY DIDN'T YOU COMPLAIN TO THEM AS WELL? WE DID.

WE ARE SHOWING UP ON EVERY SINGLE LEVEL, SUBMITTING PUBLIC COMMENT, SHOWING UP WITH PUBLIC TESTIMONY, EVERY SINGLE LEVEL.

DID YOU DO A PRESS CONFERENCE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE STATE, NOT TAKING YOUR MAP OR THE, WE ARE A STAFF OF ONE FULL-TIME PERSON AND OVER 20 VOLUNTEERS, WE ARE DOING OCCUPY WHAT OUR CAPACITY ALLOWS AS, UM, A CITY, THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED THE CITY OF OCWEN HAS LIMITED CAPACITY AND CAN NOT REACH OUT TO EVERY COMMUNITY MEMBER.

WE HAVE LIMITED CAPACITY AND CAN NOT ENGAGE IN EVERY SINGLE STATE LEVEL, DISTRICT LEVEL, AS WELL AS COUNTY LEVEL.

I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU HAVE THE CAPACITY AND THE TIME AND THE STAFF TO, TO HOLD A PRESS CONFERENCE ABOUT TODAY'S HEARING AT CITY OF ALCOHOL, BUT NOT WITH THE COUNTY OR THE STATE WHO ALSO DIDN'T SET EXCEPT YOUR MAP.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

UM, YOU FEEL THAT, UH, YOU WERE EXCLUDED.

WHY DO YOU FEEL EXCLUDED? BECAUSE THE CURRENT MAP DOES NOT REFLECT OUR COMMUNITIES WHO HAVE RESETTLED HERE AFTER 2010.

ARE THERE OTHER COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST IN OKLAHOMA BESIDES YOURS? CORRECT.

AND OUR CURRENT MAP, AS YOU MENTIONED, LAST HEARING DOES PROTECT THE, TO TWO DIFFERENT PARTS IN A VERY NARROW SEGMENT OF LAND.

CORRECT.

AND, UH, THAT DOESN'T APPEAR TO BE COMPACT IF THAT IS AN ISSUE.

AS I MENTIONED IN THE LAST CITY COUNCIL HEARING, UM, CURRENT MAP SPLITS DISTRICT THREE, AS WELL AS DISTRICT THROUGH TWO IN A VERY SIMILAR SITUATION.

SO IF THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT YOU ARE FLAGGING IN THE MAP WE HAVE SUBMITTED, THAT SHOULD BE AN ISSUE WE ARE ADDRESSING IN THE CURRENT MAP.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, JENNY AND ETIQUETTE.

UH, GOOD EVENING CITY COUNCIL ON STAFF.

UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

MY NAME IS JANINE ERICA, PAUL ASSOCIATE AT PANA.

UH, CAN I FIRST SAY, I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH THE SERIES OF QUESTIONING THAT JUST HAPPENED.

YOU HAVE JUST SHOWN THAT THERE WAS PARTISAN INTERESTS IN BOTH THE STATE LEVEL AND THE COUNTY LEVEL.

AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO STATE THAT FOR THE RECORD.

WE'RE HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE CITY OF ALCOHOL, WHERE WE ARE RESIDENTS, WHERE WE HAVE OUR LOVED ONES, WHEREVER PEOPLE.

AND WE DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE COUNTY IN THE STATE, WHICH HAVE BEEN PUBLICIZED ON THE COUNTY WEBSITE, THE STATE WEBSITE, AND WE HAVE RELEASED OP-EDS PERTAINING THAT.

AND THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS, LIKE YOU SAID, YOU HAD CONCERNS ABOUT MAP ONE 12, A DEMOGRAPHER, AND THE CITY COUNCIL SHOULD HAVE WORKED TOGETHER TO INCORPORATE AND RESPECT COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST.

INSTEAD, A DEMOGRAPHER WAS HIRED TO REVIEW COMMUNITY MAPS AND JUST REVIEW THE DATA.

THERE WAS NO POINT THE MAPS THAT WERE SUBMITTED AS COMMUNITY, RIGHT INTENDED TO BE USED AS A STARTING POINT FOR DISCUSSION FOR VARIOUS COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST IN ALCOHOL AND HOW THEY COULD BE MAPPED TOGETHER AND TO THE COMMUNITY.

CAUSE I WANT TO REMIND YOU, WE ARE REPRESENTING HUNDREDS OF COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

IT REALLY FEELS LIKE A SHAM

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WHEN YOU SEE IT UPFRONT.

WHEN I CALLED BACK IN NOVEMBER, 2020, THAT THE CITY DOESN'T WANT TO ENGAGE IN A REDISTRICTING PROCESS BECAUSE YOUR CURRENT MAP IS FINE.

AND THEN AFTER THE COMMUNITY PRESSURES, YOU, YOU ENGAGE IN YOUR PROCESS THAT ENDS WITH THE EXISTING MAP.

AND DOESN'T EVEN TRY TO DRAW A DRAFT MAP THAT RESPECTS COMMUNITIES OF INTERESTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED TO THE COUNCIL.

WE DIDN'T EVEN SEE A SLATE CHANGE.

YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO CHOOSE MAP ONE 12, BUT THERE WERE 13 OTHER MAPS THAT COULD HAVE BEEN ADOPTED AND MODIFIED.

AND WHILE I'M IN THE REASONING THAT THE CURRENT MAP WAS ADOPTED IN 2017, THAT WAS SAID IN JULY AND SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER IS FUNDAMENTALLY FRAUD.

IT IS UNFATHOMABLE THAT A COMMUNITY HASN'T CHANGED IN FIVE YEARS AS I'M SURE YOU ARE WELL AWARE AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, PEOPLE MOVE COMMUNITIES IN NEW SOURCES, ALL SHIFT, AND THAT'S ESPECIALLY CLAN ALCOHOL, WHICH IS A DIVERSE AND CHANGING AND EVOLVING CITY, AS WE CAN ALL SAY.

AND THE PURPOSE OF REDISTRICTING AGAIN, IS NOT TO JUST CREATE DISTRICTS OF EQUAL POPULATION, WHICH IS THE ARGUMENT THAT KEEPS COMING UP.

BUT IT'S TENSION.

CHANGING COMMUNITIES ARE FAIRLY REPRESENTED.

AND MOREOVER LIKE I'VE SAID BEFORE, AND IS IN THE PUBLIC RECORD SINCE THE CURRENT MAP WAS ADOPTED IN 2017, THE STATE ADOPTED A NEW LAW THAT PROHIBITS CITIES FROM CONSIDERING COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST AND OF INCUMBENTS.

WHEN DRAWING BOUNDARIES, WHERE THIS PROCESS CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS REPEATEDLY STATED PROPOSED DISTRICTS WOULD KEEP CRITICAL COMMUNITIES OF TOGETHER WOULD HARM INCUMBENTS.

I WANT TO SAY, AS YOU'VE MADE CLEAR IN YOUR AGENDA, THAT THE MOP ADOPTION, THAT LINE IS ADVISORY, THAT YOU STILL HAVE TIME TO CONSIDER HOW TO INCORPORATE COMMUNITIES OF INTERESTS AND TO COMPLY WITH THE FAIR MAPS SACK AND TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR THE RESIDENTS OF ALCOHOL.

WE'RE NOT HERE TO CREATE PROBLEMS WE'RE HERE BECAUSE WE WANT TO PARTICIPATE AND EXECUTE OUR DEMOCRATIC RIGHT IN THIS PROCESS.

LET ME THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

ANY QUESTIONS? NOPE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, MOHAMMED ETIQUETTE.

HE DIDN'T NEED CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS MUHAMMAD ERICA.

I'M A SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL WORKING AT HILLSIDE REC CENTER AND I'VE BEEN ATTENDING REDISTRICTING HEARINGS FOR THE PAST SIX MONTHS WITH THE MEDICAL CENTER.

I ATTENDED THE MEETING ON JANUARY 22ND AND WAS DISAPPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL'S DECISION TO ADOPT THE CRAB MAP AFTER HEARING SO MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS TESTIFY FOR CHANGES TO BE MADE TO THE MEP COMMUNITIES HAVE CHANGED IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS AND WILL CONTINUE TO CHANGE IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS.

AS WE'VE SAID BEFORE, THE MAIN PURPOSE OF RE REDISTRICTING IS SENSOR CHANGING COMMUNITIES ARE FAIRLY REPRESENTED.

IF YOU APPROVE THIS MAP, YOU'RE IGNORING COMMUNITY INPUT, COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST TESTIMONY AND GOING AGAINST THE SPIRIT OF THE FAIR MAPS ACT.

YOU STILL HAVE TIME TO DO IT AS RIGHT TO FIX THIS.

PLEASE LET JUST THE DISTRICT LINES AND ADOPT MAP 112, WHICH IS THE MAP THAT KEEPS OUR ARAB COMMUNITY OF INTEREST TOGETHER.

THANK YOU.

UH, RAMA AWAD GOOD EVENING CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS RAMA ILAD AND I'M THE PROGRAMS MANAGER AT THE MOST L CENTER OR THE ARAB COMMUNITY CENTER OF SAN DIEGO, MYSELF AND OTHERS FROM THE ARE HERE TODAY.

AS YOU'VE HEARD TO URGE YOU NOT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MOP, UH, THE CURRENT MAP ADOPTED IN 2017 AT THIS POINT, I THINK WE'VE REALLY BELABORED, UM, OUR ARGUMENT AROUND COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST AND THE IMPORTANCE OF KEEPING THEM TOGETHER.

UH, AS WAS MENTIONED, WE HAVE BEEN KNOW ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS FROM THE BEGINNING, WE'VE HELD NUMEROUS COMMUNITY FORUMS TO RAISE AWARENESS.

WE'VE ENCOURAGED COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO COME TO ALL FOUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

WE'VE ATTENDED CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS IN BETWEEN THE HEARINGS.

WE'VE PRODUCED OUR OWN MAP, NOT ONE 12.

AND WE THANK YOU FOR CREATING THE, THE, THE MEANS AND THE SPACE TO ENGAGE.

WE'RE.

WE, WE SEE THIS AS AN IMPORTANT ENTRY POINT FOR OUR CIVIC ENGAGEMENT LOCALLY, BUT WITH YOUR DECISION TO ADOPT THE CURRENT MAP, WHICH AS WAS MENTIONED, UH, CREATED IN 2017 CITY COUNCIL IS NEGLECTING TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE COMMUNITY OF INTEREST WE'VE BEEN UPLIFTING AND HIGHLIGHTING IN THIS PROCESS.

THIS DOES RISK VIOLATING BOTH THE EXPECTATIONS AND THE SPIRIT OF THE FAIR MAPS ACT, WHICH IS INTENDED TO, TO PROTECT THE COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AT THE JANUARY 22ND HEARING.

YOU MADE CLEAR THAT OUR MAP WAS A VERY CLOSE SECOND TO THE CURRENT ONE IN TERMS OF POPULATION DEVIATION AND CONTIGUITY AND OTHER CRITERIA.

THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IS THAT THE CURRENT MAP NEGLECTS THE COMMUNITY OF INTEREST WE'VE BEEN

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WE HAVE OFFERED YOU DATA TO SAY, THIS IS WHERE OUR COMMUNITY LIVES.

THIS IS WHERE WE WORK.

THIS IS WHERE WE SPEND OUR TIME.

OUR QUESTION, THIS IS PART RHETORICAL, BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO HEAR YOUR ANSWER IS WHY OPEN UP THE PROCESS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND GO THROUGH THE HIRING OF NDC.

IF YOU WEREN'T PLANNING TO ADJUST ANY OF THE CURRENT BOUNDARIES, WE URGE YOU TO NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CURRENT MAP.

INSTEAD, WE ASK YOU TO USE NDC TO ITS FULLEST EXTENT TO ADJUST THE BOUNDARIES IN A WAY THAT ACCOUNTS FOR OUR MAPPING, OUR MAP ONE 12 IS ONE RECOMMENDATION.

IT'S ONE SUGGESTION FOR HOW YOU COULD ADJUST THE BOUNDARIES.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO ADOPT MAP ONE 12.

THAT WOULD BE IDEAL.

WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD ON IT, BUT TAKE IT AS A STARTING POINT TO CONSIDER ACTUALLY SHIFTING THE BOUNDARIES TO AT LEAST CONSIDER MORE OF OUR DATA POINTS.

WE'RE OFFERING YOU DATA TO SAY, THIS IS WHERE OUR COMMUNITY LIVES.

THAT'S NOT IN 2017, THAT'S NOT IN THE 2010 DATA AT THIS POINT.

WE'RE MORE CONCERNED WITH THE LACK OF DUE PROCESS AND THE NON-COMPLIANCE WITH THE FAIR MAPS ACT.

WE URGE YOU AGAIN TO RECONSIDER YOUR DECISION, BECAUSE WHAT DOES THAT STAY CURIOUS IS THE NEXT 10 YEARS OF, UM, OF OUR DEMOCRATIC ENGAGEMENT, UH, HERE IN ALCOHOL.

AND, AND AGAIN, WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE LOCAL PROCESS.

IT LOOKED VERY DIFFERENTLY COUNTY LEVEL AND LOOKED AT VERY DIFFERENTLY STATE LEVEL.

UM, BUT WHAT'S AT TONIGHT IS THE LOCAL MAPS.

SO THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT.

UH, THANK YOU ALL.

UH, ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING CITY COUNCIL.

I HOPE EVERYONE IS IN THE BEST OF HEALTH SO FAR.

THANKS FOR MAKING THE TIME, UM, IN THE EVENING FOR A HEARING, HELLO, MY NAME IS MONTEZ MOMENT AND I'M THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF AFRICAN COMMUNITY CULTURE CENTER.

AND I UNDER ISN'T HAVE ALCOHOL FOR MORE THAN SEVEN YEARS.

AND YOU KNOW WHY WE SHOW UP BECAUSE WE BELIEVE IN FAIR MAPS ACT AND WE SHOW UP BECAUSE YOU WANT US TO INCREASE OUR PARTICIPATION.

AND IF WE DON'T SEE CHANGES, IT MEANS YOU GUYS ARE IGNORING US.

AND NOT ONLY IGNORING US, YOU'RE PREVENTING US TO COME HERE.

SO OUR COMMUNITY OF INTEREST IN AND IS COMPOSED OF IMMIGRANTS AND IMMIGRANTS.

WHAT I MEAN, YOU MIGHT HAVE ALREADY FELT AFGHANS.

INVALID INFLUX OF AFGHAN IMMIGRANTS INTO ALCOHOL IS COMPLETELY INCREDIBLE.

I MEAN, I'VE GONE THROUGH EVERY ONE OF THEM.

I'VE HELD 200 FAMILIES, RECENTLY, 200 FAMILIES, AND I'VE MADE THE MAP BY MYSELF AND I WENT EVERYWHERE AND I MARKED IT.

AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE TO REPRESENT OUR COMMUNITY.

AND WE MARKED IT IN THE MAP THAT HERE IS THE MAP AND THIS IS WHAT WE SHOW, AND THIS IS OUR INTEREST.

AND THAT'S WHY ARAB COMMUNITY AND AFGHAN COMMUNITY WORK TOGETHER IN OUR TO SERVER PURPOSE.

AND YOU GUYS ARE REPRESENTING US.

SO I KNOW, UM, WE HAVE SHOWN UP MANY TIMES HERE AND WE HAVE SHOWN UP TEACH OF THE 40 DISTRICTING.

HERE IS IN LARGE NUMBERS AND WE ARE DEMANDING THAT YOU TAKE COMMUNITY INPUT INTO CONSIDERATION.

AND I JUST READ THE DISTRICT BOUNDARIES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WANT.

AND THAT'S WHY WE ARE HERE TO HEAR FROM YOU GUYS AND MOVING FORWARD TO APPROVE THE CURRENT DISTRICT MAP, WHICH IS 112, UH, INT UM, IGNORING COMMUNITY INPUT AND COMMUNITY OF INTEREST TO MANY, WHICH INFORMED THAT YOU, YOU, UH, IT MEANS THAT YOU ARE SPLITTING OUR COMMUNITIES.

UM, WE STILL HAVE TIME.

I THINK YOU STILL HAVE TIME TO RECONSIDER THE MAP 112 AND FIX THE DETROIT LIONS AND ADOPT MAP 12, WHICH IS THE MAP THAT AFRICAN COMMUNITY WANT.

AND THE ARAB COMMUNITY WANTS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

IF YOU GOT ANY QUESTION, I AM AT YOUR SERVICE.

THANK YOU THOUGH.

THANK YOU.

THE NEXT TWO SPEAKERS WILL REQUIRE, UH, TRANSLATING SERVICES, PLEASE.

THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JULY I'LL HUSSEIN.

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I'M SORRY.

I CAN'T, I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

WOULD YOU MIND SPEAKING INTO THE MICROPHONE? ALL GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO BE TOGETHER.

YEAH.

THE CHANCE THAT YOU GIVE US THE CHANCE TO ATTEND.

AND THIS ARE MEETING, UH, UH, THIS ONE IS STREET.

UM, MY NAME IS JLL HUSSEIN.

I'M LIVING IN VALDEZ STREET AND ALCOHOL CALL CITY.

YEAH, I NEED I'M THE YANI EVERYDAY.

MY BIBLE , UH, WE, AS A SYRIAN COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO JOIN OUR VOICE TO ALL THE ARABIC COMMUNITY FOR YOU TO HEAR OUR VOICE AND TO REPRESENT OUR ARABIC COMMUNITY.

UH, MY KIDS ARE ALREADY STUDYING AND ALCOHOL CITY AND WE'D LIKE, WE ALL BE JOINING TOGETHER.

BESIDE AND I MUST SPEAK ENGLISH A LITTLE BIT.

ACTUALLY, THERE IS AN ORGANIZATION CALLED .

THEY ARE HELPING ARABIC COMMUNITY WITH ESL, ENGLISH, TEACHING LANGUAGE AND ALL THE SOCIAL SURFACE.

WE NEED IT HERE.

AND ALCOHOL MISS A SECOND.

WOULD IT BE WITH SHE HAD, I WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING WHICH IS MAYBE NOT INCLUDED IN THE MEETING.

IT IS ABOUT THE HIGH RENT FEES.

AND FOR ALCOHOL, I ALREADY TRYING TO APPLY FOR SECTION EIGHT AND WE ARE AS A COMMUNITY SUFFERING FROM THE HIGH RENT FEES.

WELL, AND THE MICHIGAN , I'M SORRY FOR THIS INTERVENTION, BUT I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE.

MAYBE HE WILL KICK ME OUT OF THE HOUSE BECAUSE UNTIL NOW I DIDN'T GET THE SECTION EIGHT.

THIS IS OUT OF THE SUBJECT.

BUT FORGIVE ME TO SAY MY PROBLEM IN FRONT OF YOU SO I'M LIVING IN, UH, AN AWARDEE BECAUSE I'M THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE.

UM, MAYBE WILL TAKE ME OUT OF THE HOUSE BECAUSE THE INSPECTOR DIDN'T, UH, SHOW.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I WOULD LIKE THAT EVERY PROBLEM CONCERNING THE HOUSE AND WILL BE SOLVED FOR EVERYBODY.

AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, GRAHAM, IS THERE SOMEBODY THAT CAN HELP HIM WITH HIS HOUSING ISSUES? YES, CERTAINLY AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF ELKO DOESN'T RUN SECTION EIGHT, PROGRAM PROGRAMMING, BUT WE DO HAVE A HOUSING MANAGER AND I'LL HAVE HER REACH OUT.

IF WE CAN GET HIS CONTACT INFORMATION.

IF IT'S ON THE SPEAKER SLIP, ANGELA, WE WILL UTILIZE OUR RESOURCES TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO TO HELP HIM OUT.

THANK YOU, GRAHAM.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

IF YOU CAN MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THE STAFF GETS HIS CONTACT INFORMATION.

I APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

OKAY.

ALSO WITH THE TRANSLATOR, PLEASE, A WILL BE TAGGED AS READ SHIELD BACH.

HELLO, AND ASKED ME UM, GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS .

I'M LIVING IN ALCOHOLS CITY AND I LEAVE FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.

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I LIVE IN ANDERSON CITRI BHEKI AND MY HOUSE FOR THE TIME BEING IS NOT INCLUDED WITH THE ARABIC COMMUNITY OR RAJAH DOMINO.

PLEASE LET US BE INCLUDED WITHIN THE ARABIC COMMUNITY.

OUR COMMUNITY IS CONSISTED OF SOME IMMIGRANTS, REFUGEES AND ARABIC SPEAKER WHILE MR. TENANT AND ESL LARGE FAMILIES AND IT GIVES A LOT OF PRIORITY TO THE, UH, HOUSING WITH, UH, LOW COAST AND, UH, ESL AND GENERAL, UH, PUBLIC TRANSIT, TRANSPORTATION, AND REACHING THE EDUCATION.

IF YOU AGREE FOR THE TIME BEING FOR THE CURRENT MATH FOR , YOU ARE IGNORING OUR COMMUNITY AND TO STORE MANY OF ALL THE COMMUNITY, UH, CONSIDERED , WHICH PREVIOUSLY INFORMED YOU THAT THIS OUR CURRENT MAP WILL DIVIDED OUR COMMUNITY.

IF YOU AGREE FOR THIS MAP FOR , YOU ARE NOT, UH, CONSIDERING THE LOW SPIRIT OF FAIR MAP.