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I CALLED THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
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LET US STAND FOR A FLAG SALUTE AND A MOMENT OF SILENCE.I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
SO TLA COMMISSIONER MOROSE, PRESENT COMMISSIONER CIRCLE, RESIDENT COMMISSIONER, POLLOCK, RUDE AND COMMISSIONER BIAS.
PRESENT ALL COMMISSIONERS PRESENT.
[CHAIRPERSON'S WELCOME]
THE OKLAHOMA PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.THIS MEETING IS BEING LIVE STREAMED ON THE CITY OF ALCOHOL AND WEBSITE.
IF YOU ARE JOINING US IN PERSON TODAY, PLEASE, WHERE IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO WEAR A FACE COVERING, UNLESS YOU WANT TO APPEALS OF FINAL DECISIONS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MADE THIS EVENING MUST BE FILED IN WRITING WITH A CITY CLERK BEFORE 5:00 PM.
IT MUST INCLUDE THE PAYMENT OF A FILING FEE.
IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON EITHER AN AGENDA OR AN AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT, PLEASE FILL OUT A REQUEST TO SPEAK CARD LOCATED BY THE AGENDA AND TURN IT IN TO THE SECRETARY WHO WILL CALL YOU UP TO SPEAK.
WHEN THE AGENDA ITEM COMES UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, WE ASK THAT YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME, SPELLING.
SPEAKERS ARE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.
THE DISPLAY ON THE PODIUM, AS WELL AS THE OTHER MONITORS IN THE CHAMBERS WILL SHOW TIME COUNTING DOWN AT 30 SECONDS.
THE PODIUM CLOCK READOUT WILL TURN RED SIGNIFY.
YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS UNTIL THE END OF YOUR TIME.
APPLICANTS AND INDIVIDUALS REPRESENTING GROUPS OF PEOPLE MAY BE ALLOWED MORE TIME.
IF APPROPRIATE ALL PUBLIC HEARING COMMENTS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED TO ME AS THE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION AND NOT TO THE INDIVIDUAL COMMISSIONERS OR TO STAFF MEMBERS.
PLEASE TURN OFF ALL AN ELECTRONIC DEVICES.
IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY DONE SO PURSUANT TO CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION 1, 1, 4 DASH SEVEN NINE, IT COMMISSIONER WHO HAS RECEIVED EVIDENCE RELATED TO A MATTER BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, OTHER THAN AN ESCORTED VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AS REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE SUCH INFORMATION AT THE HEARING.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL TAKE COMMENTS FROM ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ON ANY ITEM OF BUSINESS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE COMMISSION.
THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA UNDER STATE LAW.
NO ACTION CAN BE TAKEN ON ITEMS BROUGHT FORWARD UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT EXCEPT TO REFER IT TO STAFF FOR ADMINISTRATION OR PLACE IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
IS THERE ANYONE WHO WISHES TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
THERE ARE NONE WERE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS SUBMITTED PRIOR TO THE MEETING? OH, OKAY.
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CONSENT CALENDAR.A SINGLE MOTION WILL COVER ALL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
THUS, THE COMMISSION WISH TO PULL THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM FOR DISCUSSION.
DOES THE STAFF WISH TO PULL A CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM FOR DISCUSSION NOW, MR. CHAIRMAN.
I MOVED TO ADOPT THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED.
I SECOND THAT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER CIRCLE A SECOND BACK COMMISSIONER AND ROSE, PLEASE VOTE.
I DON'T SEE COMMISSIONER MOROSE ABOUT NOW.
VERY GOOD MOTION CARRIED BY YOU, MATT AND UNANIMOUS VOTE.
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ITEM NUMBER TWO BROADWAY AUTO REPAIR IS THEY REQUEST FOR A NEW AUTO REPAIR BUILDING AND USE SEQUEL EXEMPT AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVED STAFF.GOOD EVENING, COMMISSIONERS CHAIRMAN.
THIS CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CUP 20 20 0 0 1 0 IS FOR 13, 16 BROADWAY SUBMITTED BY, UH, LAITH,
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UH, BASHIR FOR AN AUTO REPAIR USE.THE PROPOSED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT INCLUDES THE DEMOLITION OF THE EXISTING TWO STRUCTURES AND CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW TWO-STORY 2,748 SQUARE FOOT AUTO REPAIR BUILDING, INCLUDING FIVE REPAIR BAYS OFFICE 338 SQUARE FOOT BASEMENT OIL STORAGE, A DECK AND RESTROOMS. THE PROPOSAL ALSO INCLUDES A NEW LANDSCAPING, TRASH ENCLOSURE STORAGE STRUCTURE AND PARKING RECONFIGURATION.
THE PROPOSED HOURS OF OPERATION INCLUDE SIX DAYS A WEEK, MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY 8:00 AM TO 6:00 PM.
THE GENERAL PLAN AND ZONING DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL, WHICH REQUIRES A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR AUTO REPAIR USES THE USE PREVIOUSLY WAS RECOGNIZED AS A NON-CONFORMING AUTO USE WITH NO ENTITLEMENT PERMITS ON RECORD.
UH, IN 1969, THE SITE WAS REZONED FROM RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL AND OVER TIME, DIFFERENT COMMERCIAL USES OCCUPIED THE SITE.
THE SITE IS SHOWN HERE, UM, NORTH OF BROADWAY WITH ITS IRREGULAR L SHAPE THAT VEHICLES ENTER FROM BROADWAY.
THEY TRAVELED NORTH AND THEN TURN EAST ONTO THE ADJACENT ALLEY FROM, FROM THEIR VEHICLES COULD EITHER TRAVEL SOUTH TO GET BACK TO ONTO BROADWAY OR NORTH TOWARDS GREENFIELD DRIVE TO THE WEST IS ST.
PAUL'S PAY CENTER TO THE NORTH IS A RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY.
AND TO THE EAST IS A SEPARATE AUTO REPAIR USE.
THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN SHOWS THE NEW LANDSCAPING ADJACENT TO BROADWAY AT THE FRONT ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE IMAGE AND TO THE REAR ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE IMAGE.
THE FOUR PARKING SPACES INCLUDE THREE ANGLED AT THE FRONT AND ONE STANDARD TO THE REAR NEXT TO THE LANDSCAPING.
THE FIVE REPAIR BAYS ARE SHOWN ENTIRELY ENTIRELY WITHIN THE FIRST FLOOR OF THE BUILDING OUTLINED BY THE VEHICLES SHOWN THERE.
THE PROPOSED STORAGE STRUCTURE AND TRASH ENCLOSURE ARE LOCATED AT THE EAST SIDE NEAR THE EXIT, UH, TO THE ALLEY AS SHOWN ON THE BOTTOM OF THE IMAGE.
THE ONE WAY DRIVEWAY IS FOUR FEET, EIGHT INCHES IN WITH AND IS DESIGNED TO REMAIN CLEAR FOR VEHICLE ACCESS THROUGHOUT THE SITE.
UH, THIS FOUR PLAN REPRESENTS, UH, THE BASEMENT OIL STORAGE AREA LOCATED BENEATH THE REPAIR BAY AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
AND THE SECOND FLOOR OFFICE SLASH STORAGE, UH, WITH THE DECK, THE NORTH ELEVATION REPRESENTS THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING VIEWED FROM BROADWAY, WHICH INCLUDES WINDOWS, A METAL AWNINGS, ONE ROLL UP DOOR, THE SIGN LOCATION AND ROOF OVERHANG, WHICH IS, WHICH HAS A 12 FOOT TALL VEHICLE CLEARANCE.
THE EXTERIOR MATERIAL IS STUCCO THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING.
THE IMAGE ON THE LEFT IS THE REAR OF THE BUILDING, WHICH INCLUDES THREE WINDOWS.
THE EASTERN ELEVATION INCLUDES THE ROLL UP DOORS TO THE REPAIR BAYS, WHICH VEHICLES WOULD ENTER FROM THE INTERIOR DRIVEWAY.
LASTLY, THE WESTERN ELEVATION, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE WEST PROPERTY LINE NEXT TO ST.
THIS INCLUDES THE SAME TYPE OF STUCCO FINISHED WITH TWO WINDOWS AND SIX METAL LOUVERED FEATURES THE PROPOSED SITE DESIGN AND BUILDING REPLACES THE EXISTING BUILDING WITH AN IMPROVED MODERN DESIGN WHILE ORGANIZING AND IMPROVING THE SITE FUNCTIONALITY.
THERE'S NO DOUBT THE SITE HAS DEVELOPMENT CONSTRAINTS DUE TO DUE TO THE SHAPE OF THE LOT.
THEREFORE THE NEW PARKING SPACES, LANDSCAPING BUILDING STORAGE AND TRASH ENCLOSURE ALLOW THE SITE TO OPERATE IN COMPLIANCE WITH DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF THE ALCOHOL MUNICIPAL CODE TO THE BEST OF ITS CAPABILITY.
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL WOULD BE INCLUDED TO ENSURE THE SITE WOULD CONTINUE TO OPERATE IN A WAY THAT IT DOES NOT AFFECT ADJACENT USES AND DOES NOT CREATE HAZARDS ON SITE.
FOR EXAMPLE, ALL PARKING SHALL BE ENTIRELY ONSITE WITH NO PARKING ON THE STREET OR ON A R OR ON SEPARATE PROPERTIES.
ALL REPAIR WORK MUST BE CONDUCTED ENTIRELY WITHIN THE REPAIR BAYS OF THE BUILDING.
AND NO OUTDOOR WORK IS PERMITTED.
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THROUGHOUT THE SITE MUST REMAIN CLEAR AT ALL TIMES AND CAN NOT BE RESTRICTED OR BLOCKED.ALSO, THE WORK IS SUBJECT TO A STANDARD DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, SUCH AS COMMERCIAL AND NOISE LEVELS.
STAFF IS LOOKING TO PROCESS THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT EXEMPTION UNDER SECTION 1 5 3 0 3, WHICH IS FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION OR CONVERSION OF SMALL STRUCTURES.
THEREFORE STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL AND ADOPTION OF THE NEXT RESOLUTIONS FOR THE SEQUEL EXEMPTION AND FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 20 20 0 0 1 0 SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
UM, I THINK IT'S QUITE AN IMPROVEMENT.
WHAT IS THERE NOW A MODERN BUILDING AND MAKING IT CONFORMING INSTEAD OF NON-CONFORMING, IT IS, UH, AN UNUSUAL SHAPED LOT.
HOWEVER, THE STAFF HAS ADDRESSED THAT ISSUE AND MADE A RESERVOIR RESOLUTION REGARDING, YOU KNOW, JUST A ONE WAY GOING IN FROM BROADWAY AND COMING OUT INTO THE ALLEY.
WELL, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, QUESTIONS? MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, COMMISSIONER CIRCLE.
UM, I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT QUESTIONS.
UH, YOU MENTIONED THE DRIVEWAYS 12 FOOT, EIGHT INCHES WIDE.
DOES THAT ALLOW FOR FIRE ACCESS? YES.
AND I'M NOT SURE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHAT THE WIDTH OF THE FIRETRUCK IS, AND I DON'T KNOW, IT WILL NEED TO BACK OUT OR CAN IT MAKE THE TURN? I KNOW THAT YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE WITH THE LOT, BUT I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF IT CAN MAKE THEM TURN OR IF IT WOULD JUST BE DRIVE IN AND BACK OUT, I DON'T THINK, I DON'T KNOW.
UM, BUT STAFF HAS REVIEWED IT FROM OUR FIRE REPRESENTATIVES AND DETERMINED THAT IT WAS SUFFICIENT.
I THINK BECAUSE IT HAS AN AX EXIT IN THE HOLLY, IT CAN DRY RIGHT.
DOESN'T HAVE TO TURN AROUND, YOU CAN DRIVE THROUGH THE ALLEY AND COME BACK IN FRONT.
UM, I REALLY LIKED THE STAGGERED ROLL UP DOORS.
THE METAL LOUVERS, UM, FOR VENTILATION ON THE WEST SIDE, ARE THOSE JUST, UM, SCREENED OR MESHED SOMEHOW TO KEEP CRITTERS FROM GOING IN, ASK THE OWNERS? YES.
UM, FOR THAT WE DEFER TO THE APPLICANT HERE TODAY AND THEN ONE ISSUE OF, I DIDN'T SEE ANY OUTDOOR LIGHTING.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WILL NECESSARILY NEED MUCH, BUT WITH THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH AND HAVING A TWO-STORY BUILDING LIGHTS, SPILLOVER IS A BIG DEAL.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S PART OF THE REVIEW PROCESS OR IF THAT'S FURTHER ON, I DON'T HAVE WELL, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS, AS YOU KNOW THAT THE MUNICIPAL CODE DOES REQUIRE THAT LIGHTS ON BUILDINGS BE, UH, POINTED, DOWNWARD AND SHIELDED.
SO THEY DID NOT SPILL ONTO ADJACENT PROPERTY.
WE WILL MAKE THROUGH MAKE SURE THROUGH THE, UM, UM, UH, SUBSEQUENT, UH, DEVELOPMENT PROCESS THAT THERE IS A LIGHTING PLAN, WHICH I BELIEVE IS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL AND THAT THEY MEET THE CODE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS? SO, NOPE.
UH, MS. BAEZ, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I MUST'VE HAD THAT LOOK ON MY FACE.
YOU DID HAVE THAT LOOK ON YOUR FACE.
WELL, I GUESS JUST THINKING ABOUT ST.
PAUL'S PACE AND THE HEALTH OF THE, THE, THE CITIZENS, THE SENIORS THAT ARE THERE.
I KNOW IT WAS AN AUTO REPAIR PLACE THAT WAS AN OLD BUILDING WITH NOT A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, NEWER, UM, NEWER, UH, INNOVATIONS WITH IT.
AND THIS'LL HAVE A LOT OF NEWER INNOVATIONS AND BETTER, BETTER THINGS, BUT JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING, YOU KNOW, EXHAUSTS, I KNOW EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE DONE WITHIN THE BAYS THAT THE VENTILATION IS SOMETHING WHERE IT'S FILTERED BEFORE IT GOES OUT INTO THE AIR WHEN, YOU KNOW, AS OPPOSED TO JUST GOING OUT THROUGH.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE YOUR, YOUR CONSCIOUS YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE VENTED, IF IT WAS JUST BE SCREENED OR NOT.
SO MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT ADDING TO ANY POLLUTION AT THE SAME TIME, I KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO LOOK AT, BUT JUST MAKING SURE FOR THOSE SENIORS THAT WE'RE, THAT WE'RE TAKING CARE OF
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THEM TOO.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, HEARING NONE, UH, I'LL OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING.
IS THERE SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD REGARDING THIS AGENDA ITEM? THIS IS THE OWNER HERE, OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? THE ISSUES THAT WERE PRESENTED REGARDING THE, UH, THE SCREENS ON THE VENTS? YOU'RE FINE.
PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED C NO ONE WANTS TO COME FORWARD.
I'LL UH, MOVE TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING.
THAT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER.
SO TLA SECOND BY COMMISSIONER MOROSE, PLEASE VOTE MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
HEY, WHAT, WHAT SAY YOU WELL? SO I WAS JUST GOING TO LET COMMISSIONER SERCO NOW I USED TO FABRICATE LOUVERS WHEN I WAS A SHEET METAL WORKER.
THEY ALL HAVE SCREENS ON THE BACK.
UH, USUALLY NO BIGGER THAN LIKE, UM, A SMALL UTILITY SCREEN, LIKE, YOU KNOW, QUARTER INCH.
THEY ALL PRETTY MUCH HAD SOMETHING AND THEY'LL GO SMALLER, BUT YEAH, THEY ALL HAVE SOMETHING ON THEM FOR THAT REASON, BIRDS FLYING AROUND WHAT I MIGHT GROWN WAS NOT ON, THERE WE GO.
IT IT'S ON A VERY COMPACT PROPERTY AND IT'S REPLACING WHAT USED TO BE HOUSE.
SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A BIG STEP UP FOR NOISE AND POLLUTION.
AND HAVING THE OIL STORAGE BAY UNDERNEATH IS GOING TO BE BIG, UM, GETTING TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE.
AND TO BE HONEST, I NEVER KNEW THAT THAT WAS A SEPARATE AUTO FACILITY ON BROADWAY.
AND I SEE THE ONE THAT HAS THE PARKING AREA.
I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS MORE CARS FOR THE SAME ONE.
SO THIS IS GOING TO BE GREAT FOR YOUR BUSINESS BECAUSE PEOPLE SEE THE BUILDING, SEE THE SIGN.
UM, IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT TO THE PROPERTY IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE.
UM, AND IT'S, YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB WORKING WITH THAT PROPERTY.
SO I APPRECIATE THE TIME AND EFFORT YOU PUT INTO IT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS KIND OF ADDING ONTO WHAT, UM, COMMISSIONER SERCO SAID? I MEAN, IT'S NICE BECAUSE HAVING SOMETHING NEW AGAIN IS GOING TO BE SAFER.
UM, YOU WON'T HAVE OLD WIRING AND ALL THE, YOU KNOW, THE OLD ISSUES WITH OLD BUILDINGS, HAVING A PART OF AN OLD HOUSE MYSELF.
SO, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK PROBABLY THERE'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING WITH THE VENTILATION.
THAT'S GOING TO BE SO MUCH BETTER WITH A NEWER BUILDING THAN YOU COULD EVER TRY TO JURY RIG INTO SOMETHING FROM THE SIXTIES.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'LL BE GREAT.
AND IT'LL REALLY START BRINGING UP A LOT OF THE, HAVING NEWER DEVELOPMENTS ON, ON BROADWAY AS WELL.
YOUR PUBLIC, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? OH MY GOD.
I WOULD MAKE A MOTION, BUT MY, UM, MY I'LL STEAL YOURS OR YOUR PAD IS NOT WORKING.
WHERE'S THE, THE LOVELY CONDITIONAL, OH, I RECOMMEND TO MOVE TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTIONS IN ORDER OF APPROVING THE SEQUEL EXEMPTION AND CUP NUMBER 2 0 1 0 20 20 DASH 0 0 1 0.
SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS, MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER POLLACK, RUDE AND SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROSE, PLEASE VOTE MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
THIS IS FINAL FOR THIS EVENING.
UH, AND, UH, THE ITEM IS FINAL UNLESS APPEALED TO THE FILING OF A FORM AND THE PAYMENT OR A FIGHTING FEE NO LATER THAN 5:00 PM ON MONDAY, OCTOBER 18TH, 2021.
IF YOU WANT TO APPEAL THE DECISION, BUT OBVIOUSLY WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO APPEAL THE DECISION YOU'RE APPROVED? OKAY.
I NEEDED TO READ THIS FOR YOU.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONERS, IF
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YOU DON'T MIND, I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE PUBLICLY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS, COMMISSIONER SERCO AND YOUR SENTIMENTS FROM THE REST OF THE COMMISSION AND THE WORK THAT ALFONZO DID WITH THE APPLICANT.THANK YOU TO THE APPLICANT FOR THEIR WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH ALFONZO AND THE CITY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, IMPROVE THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S IT'S A TOUGH, THAT'S A TOUGH PARCEL.
HEY, SO, UM, THAT'S THE LAST ITEM HERE, BUT
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WE DO HAVE SOME, UH, STAFF COMMUNICATIONS REGARDING SB NINE.SO, UM, BEFORE WE CONTINUE, UH, THE APPLICANT CAN GO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO STAY SO THEY CAN, UH, THEY ARE FREE TO, YEAH, THANK YOU.
SO I JUST WANT, WE JUST WANT TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, UM, INFORM THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF, UH, ONE, UH, SENATE BILL NINE.
I, IF YOU'VE READ ABOUT THIS IN THE NEWS OR SAW IT SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT YEAH, THIS WAS, UH, SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, AND IT GOES INTO EFFECT JANUARY 1ST, 2022, BASICALLY, WITHOUT GETTING INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL.
WHAT IT DOES IS IT HAS ELIMINATED SINGLE FAMILY ZONING IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
UM, IT ALLOWS, UH, SINGLE FAMILY, UH, ZONE PROPERTIES, UH, WITH A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING ON IT TOO.
UM, IT ALLOWS THE PROPERTY OWNER OR LANDLORD TO, UM, SPLIT THE PROPERTY.
SO WHAT THEY'RE CALLING AN URBAN LOT SPLIT AND THEN ADD ADDITIONAL UNITS AND THE POTENTIAL AS THE WAY WE UNDERSTAND THE LAW TODAY IS UP TO FOUR UNITS.
SO SOMEONE COULD, UM, TURN THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME INTO A DUPLEX AND THEN BUILD A DUPLEX IN THE BACK.
AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IF THE PROPERTY CAN ACCOMMODATE, UM, UH, SINGLE FAMILY ZONED PROPERTY CAN NOW BE MULTI-FAMILY ZONED PROPERTY WITH FOUR UNITS.
AND I THINK NOT JUST ALCOHOL, BUT I THINK A LOT OF CITIES ACROSS THE STATE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THOSE POTENTIAL IMPACTS MIGHT BE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES, UM, AS A RESULTS, UM, FOR INFRASTRUCTURE SINCE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE THE DENSITY THAT IS BUILT IN SINGLE FAMILY ZONES, I THINK THERE'S, UM, UH, POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO SINGLE FAMILY DON'T PROPERTY OWNERS WHO INVESTED INTO A SINGLE FAMILY ZONE AND THINKING THAT THIS IS THE DENSITY THAT I HAD PLANNED TO LIVE IN, AND THIS IS THE SPACE I WANTED.
THIS IS HOW I WANTED TO RAISE MY FAMILY.
UM, SO I THINK THERE'S SOME, SOME ISSUES THAT ARE GOING TO, UH, BE, BE A CHALLENGE FOR CITIES, UH, AND ALCOHOL AS WELL.
SO WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A HEADS UP ON THAT.
UM, WE WILL BE BRINGING A MORE DETAILED REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL AT THEIR MEETING ON THE 12TH.
SO, UH, IF YOU'D LIKE, UM, YOU CAN TUNE INTO THAT OR I CAN SHARE THE REPORT WITH YOU AFTER IT'S BEEN SHARED WITH THE CITY COUNCIL, WE'LL BE HERE FOR THE 12TH, CORRECT? YOU WILL AT LEAST FOR THE PROCLAMATION PART.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE PLANNED OUT.
SO, UH, I WAS, I WAS READING SOME OF IT AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT SAYS THAT, UH, THE CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION REQUIRES THE STATE TO REIMBURSE LOCAL AGENCIES AND SCHOOL DISTRICTS FOR CERTAIN COSTS MANDATED BY THE STATE, UH, STATUTORY PROVISIONS, ESTABLISHED PROCEDURES FOR MAKING THAT REIMBURSED.
AND IT SAYS, AND I READ THIS, THIS BILL WOULD PROVIDE THAT NO REIMBURSEMENT IS REQUIRED.
SO, UH, THE STRAIN ON THE STREETS, THE STRAIN ON THE SEWER SYSTEM, THE STRAIN ON THE STORMWATER, THE STRAIN ON PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING.
SO NOW I DO BELIEVE THE CITY OF ALCOHOL, MOST PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS ARE NOT GONNA, YOU KNOW, BUILD A DUPLEX ON TOP.
NOW I'D ALSO SAID THAT YOU CANNOT TEAR MORE THAN 25% DOWN TO THE EXISTING STRUCTURE.
SO YOU CAN'T GRADE IT, KNOCK IT DOWN AND BUILD A FOUR UNIT COMPLEX ON IT.
UM, BUT BASICALLY HOW MUCH POWER DOES THE CITY LOSE HERE? ALL POWER.
IF A GUY'S GOT A ONE ACRE LOT WITH A HOME ON IT, ONE ACRE, ONE ACRE, LET'S SAY, LET'S SAY A THIRD OF AN ACRE.
AND IT'S A L I HAVE A THIRD OF AN ACRE ALMOST, AND I SEE FIT TO BUILD TWO MORE UNITS ON IT, EVEN THOUGH THE CITY DOESN'T AGREE WITH IT, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER.
SO THE STATE'S KIND OF COMING IN AND WE'RE SEEDING MORE, MORE POWER TO THE STATE.
UM, WHERE IS THIS A GOOD IDEA? IS THERE, IS THERE COMMUNITIES MAY RURAL COMMUNITIES WITH, YOU KNOW, WAS THAT A QUESTION? YEAH, IT IS IT, IS IT? YEAH, WHAT'S THE CITY'S POSITION ON, WELL, I'M NOT QUITE SURE I CAN ANSWER THAT, BUT I CAN ONLY SPEAK FROM A STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE.
UM, THE CITY COUNCIL, I ASSUME, WILL VOICE THEIR CONCERNS IF ANY, UM, ON THE 12TH.
UM, I THINK AS, UM, I'VE TALKED IT OVER WITH OUR, OUR PUBLIC WORK STAFF, UM,
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JEFF AND OTHERS, UM, THAT IT DEPENDS ON THE LIKELIHOOD, YOU KNOW, HOW OFTEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE THIS? IT'S HARD TO SAY, I THINK THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, IT CREATES AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DEVELOPERS.UM, ALTHOUGH THE LAW SAYS THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS TO LIVE ON THE PROPERTY BY SIGNING AN AFFIDAVIT, UH, HOW WILL THAT BE VERIFIED? SURE.
SO WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE AS A DEVELOPER, JUST BUYING A HOME, RIGHT.
AND THEN TURN IT INTO AN INVESTMENT PROPERTY.
SO THEY, THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD BE TRUE BECAUSE THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY, YOU DO ONE, YOU DO TWO AND SO FORTH.
AND SO ON THE PROPERTIES ALSO HAVE TO HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WIDTH IN ORDER TO CREATE WHAT WE WOULD CALL A PANHANDLE FOR THE LINE IN THE BACK, SO THAT YOU WOULD HAVE AN AIR, UM, A MEANS FOR UTILITIES AND ACCESS.
THE LAW ALSO SAYS THAT YOU DON'T, WE CAN'T REQUIRE A PARKING FOR THE NEW LOT IF IT'S WITHIN A HALF MILE OF A TRANSIT STOP.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THE DEVELOPER OR THE PROPERTY OWNER DOESN'T WANT A GARAGE AND DOESN'T WANT TO PROVIDE PARKING, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE TO DETERMINE WHAT'S THE WIDTH OF THAT PANHANDLE FOR AT LEAST UTILITIES AND ACCESS.
WELL, THERE'S A SMALL AREA THAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY DENY THIS, BUT IT'S VERY SMALL.
THERE, THERE MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, AND IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THE HOUSE IS.
THE EXISTING HOUSE IS POSITIONED.
YOU KNOW, I SEE OPPORTUNITIES PROBABLY IN THE RYNETTE AREA WHERE WE HAVE A LOT OF DEEP, LOTS AND LOTS.
SO FOLKS COULD TAKE ACCESS FROM THE ALLEY AND THERE'S PLENTY OF ROOM THERE.
AND ALSO, UM, JUST SOUTH OF DOWNTOWN OFF SUNSHINE AND ORANGE, WE HAVE SOME SIMILAR LOTS THAT ARE DEEP AND THERE'S ALLEYS.
UM, IT PROBABLY NOT TOO MUCH IN FLETCHER HILLS, JUST BECAUSE I THINK OF ITS MOST RECENT DEVELOPMENT, RIGHT? YUP.
NO, OVER THERE BY FLETCHER HILLS, THEY HAVE THIS SMALL ALLEY, LOTS ON SOME OF THOSE, BUT QUESTION ON THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW FOR A WHILE THEY CHANGED THE LAW WHERE YOU COULD HAVE ONE JUNIOR ATU AND TWO 80 USE.
SO WHAT IF SOMEBODY ALREADY HAS AN ADU, CAN THEY STILL BUILD THE DUPLEX? ARE THEY GRANDFATHERED IN LIKE A DUPLEX AND A DUPLEX AND HAD THE JUNIOR ADU OR D D DOES ANYTHING TRUMP, ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT, OR IS ANOTHER GRAY AREA? ALSO A STATE MANDATED THING WITH THE JUNIOR 80.
IT WAS THIS, THIS TAKES IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
SO THE LAW SAYS, UH, AS WE UNDERSTAND IT, THAT IF YOU, AS A PROPERTY OWNER TO DECIDE TO DO THE URBAN LOT SPLIT, THEN THE CITY DOES NOT HAVE TO ALLOW YOU TO HAVE AN ADU.
SO IF, IF THE, FOR YOUR EXAMPLE, IF I HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME AND AN ADU IN THE BACK, AND I DO THE URBAN LOT SPLIT WHILE I CAN DO THE URBAN LAWN SPLIT THAT ADU NOW BECOMES A SINGLE FAMILY HOME ON THAT NEW LOT, THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY HOME NOW HAS A POTENTIAL TO BE A DUPLEX.
AND THEN I CAN ADD ANOTHER UNIT TO THE BACK BECAUSE WE'RE SPLITTING THE LOT.
SO WE'RE TALKING TO ANOTHER ADDRESS, ANOTHER APN THE WHOLE BIT.
CREATING REAL PROPERTY ATTACHED TO OTHER TABS.
SO IT, ANY CITIES, UH, I MEAN, DO YOU SEE IN THE PIKE CITIES CHALLENGING THIS, TAKING THIS TO COURT? I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING YET.
UM, YOU WOULD THINK THAT THE CITY'S ORGANIZATIONAL REPRESENTATION, CALIFORNIA LEAGUE OF CITIES WOULD TAKE ACTION, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
A COUPLE OF WEEKS OLD SINCE HE STARTED IT.
AND YOU KNOW, I MEAN, HONESTLY, AND I THINK FOR OUR CITY AND IF YOU CAUGHT WHAT YOU WANT, BUT CALIFORNIA PASSES SO MANY LAWS, PEOPLE PROBABLY IT'S GOING TO TAKE YEARS TILL THEY REALIZE THIS IS EVEN THE LAW.
YOU KNOW, I HATE TO SAY THAT SHARE WITH THE COMMISSION, WE'RE ALREADY GETTING INQUIRIES REALLY.
THE NEXT, BEFORE IT WAS SIGNED, PEOPLE WERE ASKING ABOUT SB NINE, THE R UH, CORPORATIONS OUT THERE RIGHT NOW, TRYING TO BUY ALL RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT THEY CAN.
AND I THINK THIS MIGHT BE A HELP FOR THEM TO MAKE MONEY, BUY ALL THESE HOUSES.
I MEAN, I GET LETTERS EVERY DAY, PEOPLE WANTING TO BUY MY HOUSE, BUT THE OWNER HAS TO LIVE IN A UNIT IN ONE OF THE HOUSES.
BUT THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT FOR THAT.
AND WE CAN'T, I MEAN, WE COULD ENFORCE IT, BUT IT WOULD COST US MONEY.
NOT QUITE SURE HOW WILL THIS CITY WOULD ENFORCE THE LAW LIMITS OUR ACTION TO SIGNING AN AFFIDAVIT BY THE PROPERTY OWNER.
UM, ALSO A HOMEOWNER WOULD NOT BE VERY LIKELY TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS BECAUSE ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS THAT THE BE PAID OFF BECAUSE THE BANK DOESN'T WANT YOU GIVING AWAY HALF OF THEIR, OKAY.
SO YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH WHATEVER YOUR MORTGAGE IS RIGHT AWAY.
IF YOU WANT TO DO THIS URBAN LOT SPLIT, IF YOU'RE A HOMEOWNER, IT REALLY IS MORE ATTRACTIVE TO DEVELOPERS.
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THE, OKAY.YEAH, YOU COULD, YOU COULD REFINANCE WITH A NEW BANK THAT WOULD ALLOW THE FOUR UNITS, CISCO, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU, YOU YOU'RE SQUEEZING THE DENSITIES.
YOU'RE SQUEEZING THE DENSITIES.
YOU'RE NOT LETTING ANYONE BUILD OUT IN THE EAST OR THERE'S, THERE'S SO MUCH OPEN LAND IN CALIFORNIA YET.
THEY WANT EVERYBODY ON TOP OF EACH OTHER, WHICH ENVIRONMENTALLY, I CAN'T SEE HOW THAT'S A GOOD THING.
I THINK IT STRESSES THE RESOURCES OF A CITY, FIRE, POLICE, SEWER, STORM, WATER, WATER FOR THAT MATTER.
YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST A LOT.
WELL, I GUESS WE'LL JUST HAVE TO SEE, I'D LOVE TO KNOW WHEN THE FIRST ONE COMES UP, COMES UP.
UH, ANOTHER QUICK QUESTION REGARDING THAT.
CAUSE I KNOW NORTH PARK, SOUTH PARK, THINGS LIKE THAT, A LOT OF THEM HAVE DIVIDED LOTS AND SOLD THE BACK LOT.
NOW IF THEY DIVIDE THE LOT AND THE OWNER LIVES IN IT, WHAT WHO'S GOING TO REALLY POLICE.
IF THEY JUST SELL THAT BACKLOT FOR A PROFIT AS WELL.
I MEAN, THEY COULD DO THAT TECHNICALLY SPEAKING.
AND I KNOW SOME PEOPLE HAVE ASKED ME, YOU KNOW, WELL, IF I DIVIDE IT, DOES IT COST ME MORE VALUE BECAUSE NOW THEY GET TWO FOR THE PRICE OF ONE.
SO I CAN MAYBE SEE SOME OWNERS MAYBE SPLITTING IT AND THEN SELLING IT TO MAKE MORE MONEY AND LEAVE CALIFORNIA.
AND THAT THAT'S KIND OF COME UP A LOT TOO FROM PEOPLE THAT I'VE BEEN TALKING TO.
I REALLY BELIEVE WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL IN THE SENSE THAT, UH, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY FREEDOMS, ANY RIGHTS WITH OUR OWN PROPERTY.
UH, USUALLY THE CITY, YOU KNOW, WITH, UH, UH, REGULATION FROM THIS, FROM THE BOTTOM UP INSTEAD OF FROM THE TOP DOWN.
SO I THINK, UH, TAKING THIS TO COURT WILL BE A WISE DECISION IF THE CITY, THE LEAGUE OF CITIES GOT TOGETHER AND DID.
SO I THINK THERE'D BE A STRONG CHANCE THAT THEY WOULD WIN BECAUSE IT'S REALLY ELIMINATING, UH, OUR RIGHTS TO ENJOY OUR PROPERTY AS WE SEE FIT, YOU KNOW, AS SOON THEY'LL BAN PLANNING COMMISSIONS.
THAT MIGHT BE ALREADY ON THE BALLOT OR ON THE, UH, THE DOCKET FOR THE LEGISLATURE.
YOU NEVER KNOW, BUT NONETHELESS, THAT'S NOT THAT ANY REASON WHY WE SHOULD LAY DOWN AND PRETEND THAT WE'RE DEAD.
THANK YOU FOR THAT BIAS COMMISSIONER BIAS.
I WAS VOTING INSTEAD OF HITTING MY MICROPHONE.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THIS IS TALKING ABOUT SINGLE PLACES THAT ARE ZONED SINGLE FAMILY, BUT THERE ARE RESIDENCES THAT ARE IN PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN REZONED INTO SOMETHING ELSE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOW SITS ON A COMMERCIAL LOT OR AN INDUSTRIAL LOT.
DOES IT AFFECT THOSE PROPERTIES AS WELL? THE BEST AS WE UNDERSTAND IT NOW JUST SINGLE FAMILY.
SO BASICALLY WHAT IT DID WAS IT GOT RID OF YOUR SINGLE FAMILY ZONING, YOUR ZONING CODE THAT YOU WORK ON YEAR AFTER YEAR AND YOU TWEAK IT AROUND AND YOU DO THINGS.
THEY JUST BASICALLY SAID IT'S GONE.
THE OTHER ITEM WE WANT TO SHARE IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE HAVE BEEN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COUNTY.
THIS IS THE MICRO ENTERPRISE HOME KITCHEN OPERATIONS.
UM, THIS IS A LAW, UM, THAT WAS, UM, I BELIEVE SIGNED INTO, THIS IS A, A STATUTE THAT WAS SIGNED INTO LAW TWICE, ONCE IN 2017 AND ONCE IN 19.
SO THERE'S A CLEANUP BILL IN 19.
AND BASICALLY WHAT IT DOES IS IT ALLOWS A COUNTY TO OPT IN OR OPT OUT OF SUCH A PROGRAM IF THE COUNTY OPT INTO THE PROGRAM.
THAT MEANS EVERY CITY WITHIN THAT COUNTY, INCLUDING THE COUNTY, HAS TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS MICRO ENTERPRISE HOME KITCHEN OPERATION.
UM, BASICALLY WHAT IT DOES IS IT ALLOWS SOMEONE FROM THEIR RESIDENTS AND IT COULDN'T BE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
IT CAN BE IN AN APARTMENT WHEREVER SOMEBODY RESIDES TO, UM, PREPARE AND SELL UP TO 30 MEALS PER DAY, NOT TO EXCEED 60 A WEEK OR GENERATE MORE THAN 50 AND GENERATE NO MORE THAN $50,000 IN REVENUE.
AND ALL THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THIS TYPE OF OPERATION IS FOR THAT TENANT HOMEOWNER OR WHAT HAVE YOU TO SECURE A HEALTH PERMIT FROM THE COUNTY AND BE SUBJECT TO AN ANNUAL INSPECTION.
THE CITY IS PRECLUDED FROM ANY TYPE OF PERMITTING ACTION OTHER THAN REQUIRING A BUSINESS LICENSE.
AND POTENTIALLY WE'RE STILL INVESTIGATING THAT IF WE CAN ADOPT NUISANCE STANDARDS THAT ARE APPLICABLE TO MIGOS THAT THE LOWS LOCAL JURORS THAT THE CITY COULD AND FOR SUCH AS NOISE, TRAFFIC SMOKE AND ODORS AS SORT OF THINGS, BUT THIS
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IS GOING TO BE DECIDED ON BY THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.WE ALSO AREN'T CLEAR IF IT'S APPLICABLE TO CHARTER CITIES OR NOT.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE INVESTIGATING SINCE ALCOHOL IS A CHARTER CITY.
AND IF ALCOHOL DECIDES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE A CHARTER CITY, SO THUS WE, WE DO NOT WANT, UH, MIGOS IS THE ABBREVIATION.
UM, THE ACRONYM I SHOULD SAY, UM, THEN WOULD THERE MIGHT BE RECOURSE THERE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW THAT FOR SURE YET.
SO THE SAN DIEGO, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS AS ASKED THEIR STAFF TO COME BACK WITH AN ORDINANCE IN FEBRUARY.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE A REPORT TO THE COUNCIL ON THE 12TH AS WELL.
SO IF YOU WANT TO STICK AROUND, UM, AND WE'VE INVITED COUNTY STAFF TO BE PART OF THE PRESENTATION.
SO THEY'LL BE, THEY SAID THAT THEY WILL BE HERE AND THEY ARE, WE'LL BE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL.
WHAT ARE YOU GUYS, AS FAR AS, WHAT ARE YOUR MAJOR CONCERNS WITH THOSE? I THINK FOR THE, I THINK THE STAFF'S CONCERNS RANGE FROM, UH, WHAT KIND OF TRAFFIC HOURS OF OPERATION, UM, IMPACTS TO THE SEWER SYSTEM? UM, NOISE ODORS.
I MEAN, I MEAN, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR US TO BE NEXT DOOR TO SOMEBODY WHO MIGHT HAVE A DINNER PARTY ONCE IN A WHILE, BUT THIS REALLY WOULD BE EVERY WEEK, ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK, EVERY FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS, SOMEONE COULD ONE HAVE A, UH, RESTAURANT TYPE OPERATION IN THEIR HOME.
DOESN'T SAY IT HAS TO BE IN HOME.
IT COULD BE IN THE BACKYARD, UM, OR THEY CAN HAVE, UH, MEALS FOR THE PICKUP.
SO YOU COULD HAVE 30 INDIVIDUAL MEALS THAT ARE IN ONE DAY THAT ARE PICKED UP 30 TIMES, RIGHT? IF IT'S JUST ONE MEAL, ONE PICKUP, TAMALES PARKING, NOT IF, IF IT'S AN APARTMENT THAT'S DOING THIS, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE'RE, WHERE WE'RE CUSTOMERS PARK, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY ZONES, IF THEY DON'T HAVE PARKING AVAILABLE ON SITE, WHERE WILL PEOPLE PARK OPENING AND CLOSING OF DOORS, YOU KNOW, AT, YOU KNOW, LATE IN THE EVENING WHEN MOST FOLKS EXPECT THEIR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD OR RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY QUIET, WOULD THERE BE, WOULD THERE BE CURFEWS? UM, WE DON'T, WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN BE, WELL, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT DEH WOULD ESTABLISH THOSE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH.
UM, WE THINK WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SET HOURS OF OPERATION.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO.
UM, LIKE WITH THE OTHER NUISANCE STANDARDS, WE WOULD EXPECT THAT THE LOCAL JURISDICTION SHOULD BE ABLE TO SET HOURS.
NO ALCOHOL SALES, OBVIOUSLY, NO, ON THE CONTRARY, UM, THEY ARE ELIGIBLE FOR ALCOHOL PERMIT AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET AN ABC LICENSE.
THEY WOULD, THEY'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS AS ANY OTHER, BUT THE PROBLEM IN IT, I DON'T SAY A PROBLEM, BUT WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE OVER-SATURATION WITH THE OFF-SALE, BUT ON SALE HAS NEVER BEEN, WE W WE WOULD HAVE NO ABILITY TO DENY MY UNDERSTANDING FROM DH STAFF IS THAT WE WOULD HAVE NO ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT LICENSING PROCESS.
THE TRUNK COULD LITERALLY OPEN UP NEXT DOOR TO YOU.
RIGHT NEXT TO THE FOUR UNITS THAT JUST GOT BUILT.
EACH OF THE FOUR UNITS COULD HAVE ONE.
IF I CATCH A BUNCH OF LOBSTERS, I COULD JUST OPEN UP A LITTLE MICRO KITCHEN AND START SLINGING THOSE BABIES FOR 50 BUCKS A PLATE.
CAN I, UM, PHYSICIANS, FACETIOUSLY SAY THAT ALL, UH, ZONING CODES ARE NOT BOY.
SEEMS LIKE WE'RE HEADING IN THAT DIRECTION WITH, WE DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH NUMBER C THEN DO WE? YEAH.
I WAS GOING TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHAT OUR, OUR COURSE OF ACTION HAS BEEN ON UPDATING THE ZONING CODE, BUT THERE MAY NOT BE A ZONING CODE.
I JUST WANT TO ASK WITH ALL THE REGULATIONS THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT ON RESTAURANTS AND REQUIRING COVID VACCINATIONS FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN AND MASKING REQUIREMENTS, WOULD THAT ALSO APPLY THEM TO SOMEONE'S HOME.
WE WON'T HINDER SOMEONE'S PRIVATE ENTERPRISE LIKE THAT.
IT'S JUST THE BIG UGLY CORPORATIONS, EXCEPT FOR THE ONES THAT PAY THEIR, UH, THEIR DUES.
SO IN TERMS OF ZONING CODE, IN TERMS OF THE ZONING CODE UPDATE, SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A TWO-STEP PROCESS.
WE'RE GOING TO BRING TO YOU, OUR, OUR PLAN IS TO BRING TO YOU, UM, PHASE ONE, WHICH IS REALLY CLEAN UP AND THEN THE EASY STEP.
AND, UM, WE EXPECT TO BRING THAT TO YOU IN THE FIRST MEETING OR THE ONLY MEETING IN NOVEMBER, AND WE'VE JUST FINISHED THE RFP PROCESS TO SECURE A CONSULTANT, TO HELP US WITH PHASE TWO, WHICH IS TO IMPLEMENT THE HOUSING ELEMENT GOALS, PROGRAMS, UM, THAT, UM, OR THAT ARE IN THE HOUSING ELEMENT THAT ARE BASICALLY ARE REQUIRED BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
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STATE MONEY, UM, TO SECURE A CONSULTANT, TO HELP US WITH, UH, SUCH THINGS AS, UM, OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARDS, UM, UPDATING THE CODE TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CURRENT ADU AND JADU REGULATIONS, UM, AND THINGS LIKE THAT.SO WE'LL START DOING THAT WORK NEXT YEAR QUESTION, JUST TO GO BACK TO SB NINE REAL QUICK, WILL YOU HAVE INPUT ON DESIGN OR IS THERE ANY STILL LOCAL CONTROL WHEN IT COMES TO THE PROJECT? LIKE THEY'LL START TO PULL PERMITS, RIGHT? THEY WILL STILL HAVE TO BE, WELL AGAIN, THE STATE HAS SAID THIS HAS TO BE DONE MINISTER MINISTERIALLY, UH, WHICH MEANS IT'S NOT SUBJECT TO SEQUEL AND THERE'S NO PUBLIC INPUT.
WE, AS A CITY CAN HAVE OBJECTIVE DESIGN STANDARD SUBDIVISION STANDARDS, BUT, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THAT'S THE LONG MAYBE SUBDIVISION IT'S SPLIT THE PROPERTY INTO TWO EQUAL PARTS OR NO LESS THAN 60 BY 40, A 60%, 40%.
UM, WE CANNOT HAVE DESIGN STANDARDS THAT PRECLUDE THE ABILITY TO SUBDIVIDE.
WE'RE NOT QUITE SURE EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS THAT THE PROPERTY ISN'T WIDE ENOUGH.
UM, AND IN TERMS OF BUILDING DESIGN, THOSE HAVE TO BE OBJECTIVE AS WELL.
AND I, I READ THERE GOES THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AS WELL, IS THAT BECK IS DOWN THE FOUR FEET.
SO STATE OF CALIFORNIA IS DETERMINED THAT AS WELL FOR YOUR, FOR US.
DO YOU HAVE ANY GREY POUPON? OKAY.
WELL, I THINK I'VE BEEN OBSERVING A PROPERTY IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS, UM, WORKING DOWN THIS ROAD.
AND I WILL SAY THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER DOES NOT LIVE IN THE PROPERTY, SO IT, IT, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BASED ON THEIR MORTGAGE.
AND AGAIN, THERE'S JUST, NO, LIKE YOU SAID, THERE ISN'T ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN ENFORCE IT.
I MEAN, I SUPPOSE LIKE, IF I REALLY WANTED TO BE THAT PERSON, I COULD CALL SOMEBODY, BUT WHAT GOOD WOULD THAT DO? WHAT ARE YOU GONNA CALL GHOSTBUSTERS? YEAH.
YOU KNOW, I WONDER, I WONDER IF I WONDER IF A PRIVATE CITIZEN THOUGH, CAN SUE THEIR NEIGHBOR.
WELL, YOU CAN SUE ANYONE, BUT MAYBE THAT'S THE WAY IT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE AS A PRIVATE CITIZEN SAYS, THE OWNER DOES NOT LIVE IN HERE.
YOU KNOW, I'VE WITNESSED THAT THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE, BUT HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, MY, MY HOPE IS THAT THEY'RE, MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT EVEN GETTING TO KNOW IT PASSED EXCEPT FOR A FEW.
AND THEY WON'T HAVE A HIGH IMPACT, AT LEAST AT THIS POINT.
WELL, THE DANGER IS THAT THE POTENTIAL IS THERE.
THE LAWS HAVE BEEN PASSED, YOU KNOW? SO, UH, THE PEOPLE USUALLY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SET A STANDARD, PEOPLE WORK TOWARD THAT STANDARD, AND IF THERE'S NO STANDARD PEOPLE WORK TOWARD NO STANDARD AT ALL.
SO IT'S EVENTUALLY, IT MIGHT TAKE TIME, BUT EVENTUALLY IT'S GOING TO GET THERE AND IT'S GOING TO MAKE PEOPLE UPSET.
SO, UM, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO OVER.
MAYBE WE'LL JUST VOTE SOME OF THESE PEOPLE OUT, RIGHT.
UNLESS WE BECOME THE CITY OF ALCOHOL AND REPUBLIC OR SOMETHING OF THAT SORT.
IT'S UM, ANY GOOD NEWS? NO, THAT THERE'S CONCERTS AT THE MAGNOLIA.
I'M SURE THERE'S LOTS OF GOOD NEWS OUT THERE.
DEVELOPMENT'S STILL PROCEEDING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, UH, WE'RE STILL ENGAGED WITH, UM, DEVELOPERS, PROPERTY OWNERS FOR, AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, CITY VENTURES PROJECT IS STILL MOVING FORWARD.
I KNOW THEY'VE BEEN WORKING HARD WITH JEFF'S TEAM.
UH, THEY GET THEIR ENGINEERING DOCUMENTS STRAIGHTENED AND ARE SQUARED AWAY.
AND, UM, I THINK THEY PLAN TO GET INTO THE GROUND AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
UM, SO YEAH, SO THAT'S ONE GOOD PROJECT COMING.
UM, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMISSIONER REPORTS? NO.
THE SPINAL COMMISSION MEETING IS ADJOURNED TO OCTOBER 19TH, 2021 AT 7:00 PM.
SO TLA SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CIRCLE, PLEASE VOTE.
MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.