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[ CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Bill Wells]
WELCOME TO THE ALCON CITY COUNCIL MEETING.NOW THAT WE HAVE RESUMED IN-PERSON MEETINGS, WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN PERSON.
IF HOWEVER YOU ARE WOULD RATHER SUBMIT AN ONLINE COMMENT.
PLEASE KNOW THAT ONLINE COMMENTS WILL BE ACCEPTED ONLY UNTIL 12:00 PM.
ON THE DAY OF THE MEETING, SPEAKER COMMENTS MAY BE SUBMITTED THROUGH THE CITY OF ALCOHOL'S WEBSITE, WHICH IS CITY OF ALCOHOL AND.US UNDER AGENDAS AND MINUTES.
THE MEETING IS CALLED THE ORDER, AND I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR CITY CLERK TO PLEASE CALL THE ROLL MAYOR.
ALL OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.
WOULD YOU ALL, PLEASE THEN STAND WITH ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, REMAIN STANDING FOR A BRIEF MOMENT OF SILENCE.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE ONE NATION UNDER GOD.
[ POSTINGS: The City Clerk posted Orders of Adjournment of the August 10, 2021, Meeting and the Agenda of the September 14, 2021, Meeting in accordance to State Law and Council/Authority/Successor Agency to the Redevelopment Agency Policy.]
THE CITY CLERK POSTED ORDERS OF A GERMAN OF THE AUGUST 10TH, 2021 MEETING AND THE AGENDA OF THE SEPTEMBER 14TH, 2021 MEETING IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY POLICY.[ PRESENTATIONS: Presentation: Emergency Preparedness Month Commendation for Fire Rescue]
HAVE TWO PRESENTATIONS ON TODAY'S AGENDA AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE FIRE CHIEF, STEVE SWEENEY TO SHARE WITH US ABOUT EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS MONTH CHIEF.YEAH, IF YOU'RE NOT ENROLLED MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UM, I'M HERE TODAY BEFORE YOU TO REMIND YOU THAT SEPTEMBER IS NATIONAL PREPAREDNESS MONTH.
I'M JUST GONNA GIVE YOU KIND OF A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ARE PREPARED IN CASE WE HAVE SOME SORT OF AN EVENT THAT, UH, CUTS OFF YOUR FOOD SUPPLY OR YOUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE, UH, FOR CERTAIN THINGS.
UH, SO WE ALL KIND OF KNOW THE RISK OF WHAT GOES AROUND THINGS.
ALL YOU DO IS TURN ON THE NEWS CHANNEL RIGHT NOW.
WE'VE GOT WILDFIRE UP IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA.
WE'VE GOT FLOODS ON THE EAST COAST.
LUCKILY WE DON'T HAVE ANY REPLACES GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
AND WE'LL JUST KEEP OUR FINGERS CROSSED FOR THAT.
BUT WE KNOW BECAUSE WE LIVE IN CALIFORNIA, THAT WE COULD BE PRONE TO HAVING SOME EARTHQUAKES.
UM, THE OTHER NEW SURPRISE THING THAT WE HAVE THAT GOING ON IS, UH, SHUTTING OFF ELECTRICITY.
WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? IF OUR ELECTRICITY IS SHUT OFF FOR DAYS AT A TIME, HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THROUGH THAT POINT? SO, UM, WE'VE GOT SOME MAN-MADE AND WE HAVE SOME, UH, NATURAL DISASTERS THAT CAN CAUSE US TO NEED TO BE PREPARED.
SO THE FIRST THING THAT YOU CAN DO TO BE PREPARED, UM, IS TO MAKE A PLAN AND THAT PLAN SHOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF A, A PLAN FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT IT IS THAT YOU COME UP WITH A GOOD EVACUATION PLAN, UM, THAT YOU HAVE A MEETING PLACE, UH, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO MEET UP AND NOT LIKE OUT IN THE FRONT YARD, BUT IF PEOPLE ARE NOT AT HOME, THEY'RE AT WORK, UM, AND YOU HAVE TO LEAVE AN AREA OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WHERE ARE YOU GOING TO MEET UP AND MAYBE HAVE A COUPLE OF THEM, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR FIRST CHOICE AND THIS IS OUR SECOND CHOICE AND MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY'RE AT AND HOW THEY'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND GET THERE, UM, A COMMUNICATIONS PLAN.
UM, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER, IF THE CELL PHONES AREN'T WORKING OR IF MAYBE YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO CHARGE YOUR CELL PHONE, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? UM, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER? UM, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE AN OUT OF AREA CONTACT A FAMILY CONTACT, MAYBE OUT OF STATE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, ONE PERSON CAN PHONE IN AND LET THAT PERSON KNOW THAT EVERYBODY'S OKAY.
AND THEN THE REST OF THE FAMILY CAN CALL THAT PERSON WHERE THE SYSTEM HASN'T BEEN IMPACTED.
SO THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THAT, UM, IN PLACE, UM, CHILDREN, IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, THE INCIDENT HAPPENS WHEN YOU HAVE SCHOOL-AGED KIDS, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO RETRIEVE YOUR KIDS? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GET THEM, REUNITE THEM WITH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND GET THEM TO A SAFE PLACE SO THAT YOU CAN TAKE CARE OF THEM AND YOU CAN'T FORGET YOUR PETS.
YOU KNOW, YOU GOT, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER KIND OF ANIMALS THAT YOU HAVE, HOPEFULLY THEY'RE SMALL AND YOU CAN TAKE THEM WITH YOU.
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TRYING TO MOVE LIVESTOCK AROUND, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE YOU GOT A PLAN FOR YOUR DOGS AND YOUR CATS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF, NOT JUST HOW YOU'RE GOING TO TRANSPORT THEM, BUT MAKE SURE YOU HAVE FOOD FOR THEM AS WELL.
UM, IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE ALL YOUR DOCUMENTS STORED ELECTRONICALLY SO THAT YOU CAN EASILY ACCESS THEM.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, IN THAT WAY THEY DON'T TAKE UP A LOT OF SPACE IN YOUR CAR OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IF YOU HAVE TO LEAVE, UM, SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T CARRY AROUND WITH THEM ANYMORE AS CASH.
AND IT'S ALWAYS A DEBIT CARD THAT THEY THINK THAT'S GOING TO GET THEM THROUGH WHATEVER THEY NEED, BUT WHEN THERE'S NO POWER OR THINGS, AREN'T WORKING THE INTERNET'S DOWN, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BUY ANYTHING.
SO IT MAKES SURE THAT YOU GOT EMERGENCY CASH WITH YOU AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE SMALL BILLS.
LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO IS HAVE TO PAY $20 FOR A GALLON OF WATER FROM THE STORE.
SO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE SOME SMALL BILLS WITH YOU SO THAT PEOPLE AREN'T TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT THAT YOU DO HAVE SOME CASH.
AND IF ALL POSSIBLE ALWAYS MAKES SURE THAT YOU HAVE MORE THAN A HALF A TANK OF GAS IF FUEL IN YOUR VEHICLE.
BECAUSE IF SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS HERE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY, AND NOTHING'S GOING ON IN ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORING COUNTIES OR OUR NEIGHBORING AREAS, YOU CAN ALWAYS GET IN YOUR CAR AND TRY TO RELOCATE TO SOMEPLACE WHERE IT'S NOT IMPACTED.
SO ALWAYS TRY TO HAVE THAT GAS AVAILABLE CASE, THE GAS STATIONS AREN'T WORKING AND YOU CAN'T GET GAS.
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THE NEXT THING YOU DO IS BUILD A KIT AND DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF YOUR FAMILY, AND DEPENDING ON, YOU KNOW, YOUR PREFERENCE AND STUFF IS, IS START LOOKING AT BUILDING A KIT KITS CAN GET EXPENSIVE TO BUILD.LIKE IF YOU TOOK, MADE A LIST AND WANTED TO GO OUT AND BUILD ONE ALL AT ONCE, RIGHT NOW, YOU COULD PROBABLY SPEND A COUPLE THOUSAND DOLLARS BUILDING A KIT.
BUT IF YOU JUST STARTED BY, YOU KNOW, ONCE A WEEK, WHEN YOU GO TO THE GROCERY STORE, BUY AN EXTRA CAN OF FOOD, SOMETHING LIKE THAT BEFORE, YOU KNOW, IT, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRETTY GOOD KIT BUILT UP THAT DIDN'T COST YOU A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, ONE TIME INVESTMENT FOR IT.
SO OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'VE GOT FOOD AND WATER, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT YOU GOT AT LEAST THREE DAYS OF FOOD AND WATER, BECAUSE THAT'S USUALLY TYPICALLY ABOUT THE TIME THEN RESOURCES START COMING IN TO HELP PEOPLE.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S ABOUT A GALLON PER PERSON OF WATER PER DAY.
UM, YOU CAN LIVE WITHOUT FOOD, CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT WATER.
SO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE PLENTY OF WATER, UH, TRY TO ASK SOME FLASHLIGHTS WITH EXTRA BATTERIES BETTER YET THEY HAVE SOME, UH, FLASHLIGHTS THAT ARE KIND OF EITHER HAND CRANKED OR, YOU KNOW, THAT DON'T REQUIRE BATTERIES, THAT YOU CAN REPLENISH.
THEY DON'T WORK AS, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE BATTERIES AND MAKE SURE THAT THOSE ARE CONSTANTLY WORKING AGAIN, YOUR IMPORTANT DOCUMENTS HAVE THAT THUMB DRIVE OR HAVE THAT THE DOCUMENTS ELECTRONICALLY, OBVIOUSLY MAKE SURE YOU HAVE SOME CLOTHES AND SHOES, UM, YOU KNOW, IN YOUR PERSONAL HYGIENE ITEMS THAT YOU NEED.
THEY RECOMMEND THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE TO BUG OUT OF YOUR HOUSE REALLY QUICK AND GRAB YOUR CLOTHES, GO TO YOUR DIRTY CLOTHES HAMPER, BECAUSE THOSE ARE ALL CLOTHES THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY WEAR AND ON A, ON A REGULAR BASIS.
AND YOU MIGHT HAVE TO TRY TO FIND SOME WAY TO GET THEM CLEAN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE TO TRY TO GO THROUGH AND SAY, OH, WHAT AM I GOING TO PACK? YOU KNOW, YOU'VE, YOU'VE PACKED EVERYTHING YOU'VE WORN FOR THE LAST THREE DAYS, UNLESS YOU JUST DID LAUNDRY.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD, A GOOD WAY TO GET WHAT YOU NEED AS FAR AS CLOTHES WISE, UM, ADDITIONAL NEEDS, YOU KNOW, HEARING AIDS, MOBILITY, AIDS, CANES, WALKERS, GLASSES, CONTACTS, WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU NEED TO DO TO, TO GET AROUND AND DO THINGS AGAIN, THE PET CARE ITEMS, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE YOU GOT SOME FOOD FOR YOUR PET, UM, YOUR MEDICATIONS.
UM, AND IT'S A GOOD IDEA WHEN YOU HAVE YOUR KIT TO GO AHEAD AND ROTATE SOME OF THOSE PERISHABLE ITEMS, EVEN SOME OF THE TH THE TOILETRIES, LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOUR IBUPROFEN ADVIL AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
IT HAS AN EXPIRATION DATE ON IT.
AS YOU, AS YOU GET TO THE POINT WHERE YOU'RE BUYING MORE, GO IN THERE AND TAKE THE STUFF OUT OF YOUR KIT AND REPLACE IT WITH THE NEWER STUFF.
SO DON'T FORGET TO ROTATE YOUR PERISHABLES, UM, PREPARE YOUR CHILDREN, YOU KNOW, TEACH YOUR CHILDREN WHAT TO DO IN CASE THERE'S AN EMERGENCY.
IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE HOME OR IF YOU'RE EVEN AWAY, YOU KNOW, SOMEPLACE ELSE, YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE GOING TO, HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THROUGH THIS AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO? UM, LET THEM HELP YOU WITH THE PLAN.
THEY'RE PRETTY, PRETTY CREATIVE.
AND THEY'LL TELL YOU WHAT THEY NEED AND GET THEM INVOLVED WITH PACKING SOME OF THEIR STUFF AND THE THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO TAKE WITH YOU.
UM, AGAIN, REVIEW THAT, THAT COMMUNICATIONS PLAN.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, IT MAY EVEN BE SIMPLE AS THAT, HEY, IF WE HAVE TO GO SOMEPLACE, WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE YOU A HANDWRITTEN NOTE.
I KNOW THAT'S KIND OF A NOVEL CONCEPT TODAY.
IT'S LIKE, HEY, I'LL JUST SHOOT YOU A TEXT OR, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
BUT IF YOU HAVE TO DO GO SOMEPLACE, A HANDWRITTEN NOTE WOULD PROBABLY WORK JUST FINE.
UM, AND LET THEM KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO GO.
IF THINGS AREN'T WORKING, UM, LET THE KIDS BUILD THEIR OWN LITTLE KIT THINGS THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM.
THAT KIND OF GIVES THEM A LITTLE BIT OF COMFORT IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN.
UM, AND THEN, UH, UM, SEE WHAT THE KIDS SCHOOLS PLAN ARE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR, WHAT ARE THEIR EMERGENCY PLANS? HOW ARE THEY GOING TO RELEASE THE KIDS? ARE THEY GOING TO RELEASE THE KIDS WHO THEY'RE GOING TO RELEASE THE KIDS TO, AND KIND OF WHAT THEIR PLAN IS TO GET THE KIDS OFF OF CAMPUS, UM, TO THE, TO REUNITED OR TO A SAFE PLACE UNTIL YOU CAN GET A UNITED WITH THEM.
SO, UM, AFTER THE DISASTER, THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF WITH, UH, SOME FINANCIAL RECOVERY SAY YOU HAD YOUR HOUSE DESTROYED BY AN EARTHQUAKE OR A FIRE OR FLOOD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO HAVE SOME SORT OF, UH, INSURANCE EVALUATION AND IT TO COME OUT, UH, ANNUALLY AND IN REEVALUATE THE COST OF YOUR HOUSE.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES WE DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO THAT YEAR AFTER YEAR, WE JUST RENEW OUR POLICY, BUT WE DON'T UP THE VALUE OF THE BELONGINGS OR THE STRUCTURE ITSELF AND MAKE IT SO THAT SOMETHING DID HAPPEN, WE COULD BE MADE WHOLE.
SO IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO INVENTORY YOUR POSSESSIONS, EITHER, YOU KNOW, THROUGH PICTURES, YOU KNOW, ANY TYPE OF DOCUMENTATION THAT YOU CAN HAVE VIDEO, UM, THAT TYPE OF THING, AND LOOK AT YOUR THINGS THAT ARE VERY VALUABLE TO YOU.
IF YOU COLLECT ART, UM, DIFFERENT COLLECTIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR ANTIQUES AND THAT KIND OF THING HAVE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER VALUE.
SO TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU, THAT YOU GET THOSE, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, CATEGORIZE AND STUFF IN THAT, THAT, UH, INVENTORY, UM, MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL LIVING EXPENSES IN CASE SOMETHING TAKES A LITTLE BIT LONGER, YOU GET, YOU KNOW, PUT UP IN A HOTEL OR BE ABLE TO RENT A HOUSE, THAT TYPE OF THING.
SO IT MAKES A LITTLE BIT EASIER ON YOU AS PART OF YOUR INSURANCE.
AND AGAIN, THERE'S A COMMON THEME STORE DOCUMENTS ELECTRONICALLY.
SO IF YOU HAVE THEM ON THAT THUMB DRIVE, YOU HAVE THEM.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, YOU CAN ACCESS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN TRYING TO CARRY A FILE CABINET AROUND AND TRYING TO SEARCH THROUGH, AND HOPEFULLY YOU FIND WHAT IT IS.
UM, AND AGAIN, THERE'S THAT EMERGENCY CASH THING AGAIN, RIGHT? MAKE SURE YOU'VE GOT THAT CASH ON YOU.
UM, MOST PEOPLE DON'T CARRY CASH NOW, BUT AGAIN, SMALL DENOMINATIONS SO THAT YOU CAN GET BY.
UM, WE HAVE PLENTY OF PREPAREDNESS RESOURCES OUT THERE THROUGH, UH, THROUGH THE WEBSITE.
YOU CAN GO TO A HARLAN FIRE.ORG, UH, AND THERE'S LOTS OF TIPS ON EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS.
THE, UH, COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO HAS A, HAS A LOT OF MATERIALS ON IT, READY, SAN DIEGO.ORG, AND ALSO READY.GOV HAVE A LOT OF RESOURCES ON THERE THAT CAN HELP YOU,
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UH, PLAN AND, AND, UH, GET, GET A KIT TOGETHER AND THEN HELP YOU WITH SOME OF THE INSURANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.UM, ANOTHER WAY, GREAT WAY TO GET INVOLVED IN PREPAREDNESS IS JOIN SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO COME OUT AND HELP DURING THE TIME OF, OF THE, UH, OF NEED.
SO YOU'VE GOT EAST COUNTY CERT HARLAN FIRE AND RESCUE IS A SPONSOR OF EAST COUNTY.
CERTAIN WE KIND OF MAINTAIN THAT PROGRAM, A GREAT PROGRAM.
THERE'S MORE INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE, AMERICAN RED CROSS, UH, THE AMATEUR RADIO EMERGENCY SERVICES, UH, THE FIRE SAFE COUNCIL, UH, IN SALVATION ARMY ARE ALL GREAT ORGANIZATIONS TO BE PART OF, TO HELP IN TIME OF NEED AND TO BE ABLE TO HELP YOUR NEIGHBORS WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING ON.
SO WITH THAT, THAT'S THE END OF MY, UH, MY PRESENTATION.
UH, AGAIN, JUST A QUICK REMINDER IS PREPAREDNESS MONTH AND THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO TO BE PREPARED.
SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
LET ME SEE IF THERE'S QUESTIONS.
NEXT, WE HAVE ACCOMMODATION FOR A FIRE RESCUE, AND I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR CITY MANAGER AND TELL US ABOUT THIS MISDEMEANOR.
THE, THE FIVE GENTLEMEN THAT WERE TO RECEIVE THE COMMENDATION.
UM, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT TODAY.
SO WE'RE GOING TO PUSH THIS PRESENTATION OFF TO THE NEXT MEETING IF THAT'S OKAY WITH THE COUNCIL.
I JUST TO TELL EVERYBODY WHAT HAPPENED IF YOU DIDN'T SEE IT.
UM, A COUPLE OF GENTLEMEN FROM EAST CAT, TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER SAVED A COUPLE THAT WAS BURNING IN THEIR CAR AND THEY WENT IN AND SAVED THEM THAT, SO THAT WAS PRETTY, PRETTY EXCITING.
WELL, WE'LL GET THEM THAT COMBINATION NEXT TIME.
ALL RIGHT, STAFF, DO YOU HAVE ANY AGENDA CHANGES, MR. MAYOR? WE HAVE NO CHANGES TO THE AGENDA.
HOW ABOUT COUNCIL MEMBERS? ALL RIGHT.
[7. CONSENT ITEMS: Consent Items are routine matters enacted by one motion according to the RECOMMENDATION listed below. With the concurrence of the City Council, a Council Member or person in attendance may request discussion of a Consent Item at this time.]
THAT BRINGS US TO THE CONSENT ITEMS. CONSENT ITEMS ARE ROUTINE MATTERS ENACTED BY ONE MOTION.ACCORDING TO THE RECOMMENDATION LIST OF BELOW WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL, A COUNCIL MEMBER, A PERSON IN THE TENTS, AND THEY REQUEST DISCUSSION OF A CONSENT ITEM AT THIS TIME.
DO YOU WANT TO PULL ANY OF THE CONSENT ITEMS? HOW ABOUT STAFF? YES, SIR.
ANGELA, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON CONSENT? WE RECEIVED NO COMMENTS, SIR.
UM, THAT I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE VOTE MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
[ PUBLIC COMMENT: At this time, any person may address a matter within the jurisdiction of the City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the El Cajon Redevelopment Agency that is not on the Agenda. Comments relating to items on today’s docket are to be taken at the time the item is heard. State law prohibits discussion or action on items not on the Agenda; however, Council, Authority and Agency Members may briefly respond to statements or questions. An item may be placed on a future Agenda.]
RIGHT.WE'RE NOW A PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME.
ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS A MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AUTHORITY, SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE ALCOHOL AND REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA COMMENTS RELATED TO THE ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA ALREADY BE TAKEN AT THE TIME OF THE ADAM HAS HEARD STATE LAW PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ITEMS, NOT ON THE AGENDA.
HOWEVER, CITY COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND TO STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS, AND AN ITEM MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT? WE RECEIVED ONE CARD FROM MICHAEL HARRIS.
UM, I HAVE SOME DOCUMENTS FOR Y'ALL HERE.
IF I CAN PRESENT THEM, PLEASE GIVE TO THE CLERK.
I LIVE AT 1 34, 1 3 4 5 PARTRIDGE AVENUE IN OKLAHOMA FIVE YEARS AGO WHEN I PURCHASED MY CONDO, IT CAME WITH A SET OF STAIRS GOING FROM OUR DINING ROOM DOWN INTO THE GARAGE.
THIS WAS ANNOTATED ON ALL THE PAPERWORK AND THE PREVIOUS OWNER, AND THAT THERE WAS NOTHING STATED THAT IT WAS NOT PERMITTED OR ANYTHING WAS IMPROPER.
I RECEIVED A LETTER FROM CODE COMPLIANCE STATING THAT I HAD TO REMOVE THE STAIRS AND RETURN THE UNIT TO HOW IT WAS BUILT.
THIS STEMS FROM ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS INSTALLING SET OF STAIRS.
AND AFTER BEING TOLD, NO BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, HE DECIDED TO DO SO.
ANYWAYS, SMITTEN ARCHITECTURAL CHANGE TO THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY, WHICH IS KEYSTONE INLAND KEYSTONE IN, UH, CONTACTED THE CITY AND ASKED IF A PERMIT HAD BEEN ISSUED.
THERE WAS NO PERMIT THAT COULD BE FOUND.
THE OWNER WAS TOLD THAT HE HAD TO UNDO WHAT HE HAD BEEN DONE BY CODE COMPLIANCE.
HE THEN CONTACTED THE CITY AND DEMANDED THAT I RECEIVE A LETTER TO REMOVE OR AN ORDER TO REMOVE THE STAIRS HAD BEEN INSTALLED IN THE LATE 1970S.
THERE WAS A WALL THAT SEPARATES THE STAIRS LEADING DOWN FROM THE GARAGE AND THE STAIRS THAT WALL HAS FIVE EIGHTS THICK SHEET ROCK AND SELF-CLOSING DOOR AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE FIRE CODE.
I HAVE NUMEROUS CON UH, COMMUNICATIONS WITH LC, RIGHT FROM CO COMPLIANCE REGARDING THIS NAME AND TOLD THEM IN VIOLATION OF ZONING CODE
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17.18 5.030, WHICH STATES THE GARAGE HAS TO BE 20 BY 20.THIS IS USING MEASUREMENTS FROM CARS FROM THE 1970S, WHICH ARE LONGER NEEDED.
THE EXTRA ROOM TO THE MOST CARS ARE SMALLER THAN 16 FOOT.
I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT I CANNOT PARK TWO CARS IN THE GARAGE BECAUSE THE MEASUREMENTS OF 16 BY 10 ON ONE SIDE AND 20 BY 10 ON THE OTHER, THE COUPLE THAT HAVE A UNIT BEFORE ME PARKED TWO CARS IN THE GARAGE.
I CURRENTLY HAVE A SIDE-BY-SIDE TWO MOTORCYCLES IN THE TRAILER CURRENTLY PARKED INSIDE THERE.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PICTURES IN THE PACKET, I CAN PARK A CAR IN THERE.
UM, I'VE ALSO BEEN TOLD THAT COMPLEX IS NON-CONFORMING BECAUSE THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR GUESTS.
IF I WANTED TO, I CAN NOT PARK MY 22 FOOT LONG TRUCK IN THE GARAGE PERIOD.
I HAVE TO PARK OUT ON THE STREET, NO MATTER WHAT, THE LAST COMMENT THAT WAS MADE TO ME, THAT WAS IF I DID NOT REVERT MY, MY GARAGE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL STATE, THAT THE CITY COULD BE SUED, NOT SURE WHY I WAS TOLD THIS.
AND I DID NOT SEE TO THINK THAT IT WAS AN INAPPROPRIATE COMMENT AT THE TIME.
EVERY REPEATEDLY ASKED IF THERE'S A PROCESS TO GET A WAIVER OR VARIANCE.
AND I HAVE BEEN TOLD NO THAT THE CODE IS CONTROLLED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND THAT IS WHY I'M HERE FOR ME TO GET THE REQUIRED PERMIT THAT I WOULD NEED TO GO AHEAD AND REVERT THE GARAGE BACK.
IT'S AT LEAST $5,000 JUST TO GET THE ARCHITECTURAL DRAWING AND THEN 10 TO $15,000 TO DO THE WORK.
IF I HADN'T ENDED UP HAVING TO DO THIS, IT WOULD HAVE TO MEAN I WOULD HAVE TO SELL MY HOUSE AND I WOULD HAVE TO WATCH GOD USE MOST OF THAT MONEY THAT I WOULD GET FROM SELLING IT TO GET THIS FIXED.
ALL I'M DOING IS I'M ACTUALLY, UH, RESPECTFULLY ASKING FOR A WAIVER OR VARIANTS SO THAT I CAN GO AHEAD AND KEEP THIS.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, I'VE INCLUDED IN THERE.
THE STAIRS ARE MERELY CONVENIENCE TO GET INTO THE GARAGE.
THEY'RE BOTH BY NO MEANS AN EMERGENCY EGRESS TEXTS AT THE HOUSE.
I'VE PUT A COPY IN THE MORNING.
NOTICE TIMETABLE, THE EVENTS, COPY OF THE CODE, PICTURES OF CAR PARKED IN THERE.
UM, EMAILS BETWEEN MYSELF AND THE CITY.
AND THERE'S ALSO THE PAPERWORK FROM MY, A REALTOR SHOWING THAT WHEN I BOUGHT IT, THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY WITH IT.
UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE, WELL, LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.
SO, SO FAR FROM THE TIME THIS WAS PUT IN, IN THE SEVENTIES UNTIL YOUR NEIGHBOR BROUGHT THE ATTENTION TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THERE'S NEVER BEEN ANY PROBLEM.
WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU PURCHASED HOME, THERE WAS AN INSPECTION.
AND THEN SPECTRUM PORT IS RIGHT THERE.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE YOU REVIT THE HOME AND THEY DO ANOTHER INSPECTION OR ANYTHING I HAVE.
AND NOTHING'S BEEN BROUGHT UP AT THAT TIME.
AND HAS EVER BEEN BROUGHT UP ABOUT IT UNTIL MY NEIGHBOR COMPLAINED THAT HE COULDN'T KEEP HIS STAIRS.
I WAS STILL IN HIGH SCHOOL AT THE TIME.
UM, WHAT ABOUT THE PLANNING? DO WE HAVE ANYONE FROM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HERE THAT CAN SPEAK TO THIS? MR. MAYOR? I CAN BRIEFLY COMMENT ON IT.
I CAN PROVIDE THE COUNCIL A MORE IN-DEPTH MEMO, CAUSE THIS IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT, UM, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE COUNCIL DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO WAIVE BUILDING CODES.
THAT'S SET BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
THAT'S BEEN ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S A LOT OF LEEWAY THAT WE HAVE HERE.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL HAS ACTUALLY HAS DRAWN UP A, UH, SOLUTION.
UM, FOR MR. HARRIS, WE THINK IT'LL COST ABOUT $1,500.
UH, IT DOESN'T EVEN REQUIRE PERMITS.
SO HE HAS SORT OF THAT, THAT SKETCH.
SO, UM, W W WHERE WE'RE STUCK RIGHT NOW IS IF WE WERE TO SORT OF TURN A BLIND EYE AND SOMEONE WOULD BE INJURED IN THE FUTURE, THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD BE SUED BECAUSE WE'RE LIABLE NOW, BECAUSE WE DID NOT ENFORCE A KNOWN VIOLATION OF THE BUILDING CODE, BUT I SAID, I CAN PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL TO THE CITY COUNCIL, AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH MR. HARRIS TO LOOK FOR A SOLUTION.
MY QUESTION IS, WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE, THE INJURY PART? WHAT IS THE PROBLEM THAT COULD CAUSE INJURY? BECAUSE I'M NOT, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE PROBLEM IS THERE STAIRS.
SO, SO YOU HAVE SOME IMMUNITY WHEN, WHEN SOMEONE BUILDS A HOME AND IT'S BUILT TO CODE, YOU HAVE SOME IMMUNITY IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS A DEFAULT, AS LONG AS IT'S BUILT TO CODE.
IF THE CITY WERE TO INSPECT THE PROPERTY KNOWINGLY KNOWING IT'S NOT UP TO CODE, AND WHATEVER MANY YEARS LATER ON IN INJURY DOES OCCUR.
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STAIR, THE STAIRCASE FALLS DOWN, SOMEONE IS INJURED OR KILLED, UM, BECAUSE THE CITY DID NOT ENFORCE THE CODE.WE WOULD HAVE LIABILITY FOR THAT DEATH, THAT THERE IN LIES THE CITY'S LIABILITY.
WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE LIABILITY THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING? WHAT IS THE PROBLEM IS, UM, IN THE EVENT THERE'S A, AN INJURY OR A DEATH BECAUSE OF FAULTY CONSTRUCTION.
SO THE STAIRS ARE, ARE CONSTRUCTED FALSE.
THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT UP TO CODE.
AGAIN, THIS IS NOT AN AGENDA ITEM, SO WE REALLY SHOULDN'T GO MUCH BEYOND THIS, BUT I CAN PROVIDE THE COUNCIL MEMO AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH MR. HARRISON, IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO AGENDIZE THAT WE CAN DO THAT AT A LATER DATE.
SO WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO NOW? I MEAN, W WE'RE YOU HAVE NO AUTHORITY OVER THIS MATTER RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
UM, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, UM, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF FEES FROM THE CITY? I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT RIGHT NOW.
IT'D BE NICE TO GET CAUGHT UP WITH THE MEMO ON THAT AFTERWARDS.
UM, MR. HARRIS, PLEASE WORK WITH, WITH STAFF AND SEE IF WE CAN FIND SOME KIND OF SOLUTION.
IF YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU'RE, YOU'RE GETTING SOMETHING THAT WORKS FOR YOU, THEN YOU CAN CONTACT ANY ONE OF US AND WE'LL, AGENDIZE IT.
AND BRING IT BEFORE THE COUNCIL.
THE LAST TIME I HAD GONE AND TALKED TO ANYBODY, IT WAS AUGUST 2ND.
I WAS TOLD I'D GET A PHONE CALL, IMMEDIATELY SEND THEREAFTER.
I AM YET TO RECEIVE ANY CORRESPONDENCE PERIOD.
THERE'S A PLAN TO WORK THIS OUT WITH ME.
WELL, IT'S A KIND OF ESCALATED NOW.
I THINK, UH, I HAVE A LOT OF FAITH IN GRAHAM THAT HE WILL, UH, THAT YOU'LL GET SOME, WE'LL GET AHOLD OF YOU VERY QUICKLY.
UH, THERE ARE NO WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS AND NO PUBLIC HEARINGS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
[11. Opposition to a Proposed San Diego County Ordinance Named “Working Families Ordinance" RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council adopts the next Resolution, in order, opposing the proposed San Diego County inappropriately named, “Working Families Ordinance.” ]
ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS INTO THIS AGENDA.ITEM 11 IS REGARDING A SAN DIEGO COUNTY ORDINANCE NAMED WORKING FAMILIES.
AND I'LL ASK OUR CITY MANAGER TO TELL US ABOUT THIS ITEM.
THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.
UM, EARLIER THIS SUMMER IN JULY, THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CONSIDERED A DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT WAS PREPARED AND PRESENTED BY, UM, UH, AS A BOARD MEMBER OR A SUPERVISOR LAWSON REAMER.
AND, UM, IT WAS, IT WAS ALSO PRESENTED BY, UH, CHAIR, NATHAN FLETCHER, THE, THE ORDINANCES ENTITLED RIGHT NOW, WORKING FAMILIES ORDINANCE AND THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, DIRECTED STAFF TO GET PUBLIC INPUT, DRAFT AN ORDINANCE AND BRING IT BACK FOR CONSIDERATION.
AND IT'S SCHEDULED CURRENTLY FOR THE OCTOBER 5TH MEETING.
UM, CITY STAFF HAS PARTICIPATED IN SEVERAL OF THE WORKSHOPS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AVAILABLE.
AND WE HAVE WORKED WITH MANY OF THE BUSINESSES AROUND GILLESPIE FIELD, AND WE'RE AT A POINT RIGHT NOW WHERE WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE PREPARED TO PRESENT, UH, UH, UM, A RESOLUTION OF OPPOSITION TO THIS ORDINANCE.
SO I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE WORD UNFAIR JUST FOR A MOMENT AND TALK ABOUT HOW STAFF BELIEVES THAT THIS ORDINANCE IS ACTUALLY INHERENTLY UNFAIR.
IF YOU LOOK UP THE DEFINITION OF UNFAIR, IT SAYS IT'S A, AND IT'S AN ADJECTIVE AND IT'S NOT BASED OR BEHAVING ACCORDING TO THE PRINCIPLES OF EQUITY OR JUSTICE.
WHAT I THINK ABOUT IS WHEN I HEAR THAT WORD, I THINK OF MICHAEL, TURKO IT AIN'T RIGHT.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE FEEL ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE.
IT JUST AIN'T RIGHT THERE IT IS.
IT'S UNFAIR TO MANY COMMUNITIES, BUT IT'S ESPECIALLY UNFAIR TO THE CITY OF ALCOHOL.
AND, AND WHAT I WANTED TO DO TODAY IS GO THROUGH AND TALK ABOUT HOW, WHAT THIS ORDINANCE SAYS, WHAT ITS IMPACT IS GOING TO BE ON OUR COMMUNITY, WHY STAFF'S RECOMMENDING ITS OPPOSITION, AND THEN WHAT ARE SOME STEPS THAT CAN BE DONE IN THE FUTURE.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS DOES IS, UM, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF UNFAIRNESS, UM, IT REALLY, I GUESS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE FAIR IS IF THERE'S A NEED TO FULFILL A GOAL IN THE COMMUNITY, EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY PARTICIPATES IN FULFILLING THAT GOAL, THIS ORDINANCE DOES THE EXACT OPPOSITE AND I'LL SHARE WHAT IT DOES AFTER I EXPLAINED THE ORDINANCE.
BUT WHAT THIS DOES IS THIS ORDINANCE WOULD APPLY TO ANY COUNTY PROPERTY, WHETHER IT BE AN AIRPORT PROPERTY, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.
A COUNTY PARK COUNTY OPEN SPACE THAT'S USED FOR AGRICULTURAL PURPOSES, ANY PROPERTY THAT THE COUNTY OPERATES
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THERE'S THERE WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT FOR THOSE THAT LEASE OR SUBLEASE THAT PROPERTY TO PAY PREVAILING WAGE TO THEIR EMPLOYEES OR A LIVING WAGE OR WHATEVER IS HIGHER AND WHERE IT'S UNKNOWN TO WHATEVER THAT HIGHER WAGE COULD BE.IT ALSO REQUIRES THAT A SKILLED AND TRAINED WORKFORCE BE UTILIZED, ALTHOUGH THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT DEFINE WHAT SKILLED AND TRAINED WORKFORCE MEANS.
UM, IT ALSO REQUIRES THAT THE EMPLOYER PROVIDE 56 HOURS OF ANNUAL SICK LEAVE.
JUST NOTE THAT THE STATE MINIMUM IS 48 HOURS.
SO THIS IS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE STATE REQUIRES.
AND IN MANY CASES, UM, GIG WORKERS OR, OR ONE-TIME EVENT WORKERS, THERE'S REALLY NO WAY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO JUSTLY COMPENSATE FOR, UH, EIGHT HOURS OF WORK, TIME TO ACCOMMODATE SICK LEAVE.
SO THERE'S SOME, SOME INHERENT FLAWS JUST WITH THE ORDINANCE ITSELF.
AND IT WOULD ALSO REQUIRE ANY FUTURE LEASEES IF THEY'RE DOING ANY CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS TO USE PREVAILING WAGE ON THE ENTIRE JOB, OR IF IT'S A SINGLE CRAFT PROJECT.
SO IF YOU'RE NOT USING A GENERAL CONTRACTOR, YOU'RE JUST USING, LET'S SAY AN HVAC REPAIR PERSON TO REPLACE YOUR HVAC.
THAT'S CALLED A SINGLE CRAFT PROJECT.
ANYTHING OVER $25,000 WOULD REQUIRE PREVAILING WAGE, UM, AND, AND SKILLED AND TRAINED WORKFORCE.
IN OTHER WORDS, A UNION LABORS.
SO, UM, STAFF DOES NOT, WE'RE NOT HERE TO DEBATE WHETHER THAT'S A GOOD POLICY OR BAD POLICY, THAT THERE ARE BETTER WAGES AND MORE SICK LEAVE AVAILABLE TO THOSE THAT ARE DOING JOBS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT.
WE'RE REALLY HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT THAT THIS POLICY, THIS ORDINANCE HAS SPECIFICALLY ON THE CITY OF ALCOHOL.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE STAFF REPORT IDENTIFIES IS THAT OF THE, ABOUT THE THOUSAND ACRES OF INDUSTRIAL OR MANUFACTURING LAND THAT EXISTS IN, IN THE CITY OF ALCOHOL, ABOUT HALF OF THAT IS ACTUALLY OWNED AND CONTROLLED AND LEASED OUT BY THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO.
OVER 300 BUSINESSES, LEASE PROPERTY FROM THE FRONT OF THE COUNTY THAT WE CALL OUR BUSINESSES THAT GENERATE INCOME FOR OUR CITY, THAT GENERATE JOBS FOR OUR CITY.
UM, AND ABOUT AN EMPLOYEE ABOUT 3,500 EMPLOYEES BASED ON OUR BUSINESS LICENSE RECORDS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT EMPLOYMENT CENTER.
AND IN FACT, IF YOU LOOK AT SANDAG, UM, THEY HAVE AN ANALYSIS OF ALL THE MAJOR EMPLOYMENT CENTERS IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY AND GILLESPIE FIELD IS ONE OF THOSE PRIMARY EMPLOYMENT CENTERS THAT SAN DIEGO OR THAT SANDAG CONSIDERS TO BE CRITICAL TO OUR REGION.
UM, JUST MENTIONED THAT 50% OF, OF THE CITY'S INDUSTRIAL MANUFACTURING LAND IS, IS OWNED AND CONTROLLED BY SAN DIEGO.
THE SCARY PART, THE UNFAIR PART, THE THING THAT MAKES US CONCERNED IS THAT, UM, A MINIMUM OF THREE SUPERVISORS THAT DON'T EVEN REPRESENT ALCOHOL DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO INFLUENCE 50% OF THE CITY'S INDUSTRIAL LAND.
THAT'S, THAT'S A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT, UM, ISSUE.
AND THAT AGAIN, MEETS THE DEFINITION OF UNFAIRNESS IN STAFF'S MIND, UM, LOOKING AT JUST THE AIR PER PROPERTIES, WE WON'T ADDRESS THE IMPACTS THAT THIS HAS ON.
LET'S SAY, UM, SOMEONE THAT'S OPERATING A 5K RACE AT A COUNTY OWNED PARK, AND NOW THEY WERE GOING TO HIRE A FRIEND THAT DOES DEEJAYING.
NOW THEY WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO HIRE A FULL ON COMPANY TO DO THAT KIND OF WORK.
SO EVERYTHING IN COSTS TO THE COST GOES UP.
WE'RE NOT, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.
WE WON'T TALK ABOUT THE FARMER, THAT LEASES OPEN-SPACE LAND FROM THE COUNTY THAT PAYS THEIR EMPLOYEES WITH ROOM AND BOARD, BECAUSE THAT WON'T BE ALLOWED UNDER THIS PROVISION.
WE WON'T TALK ABOUT THAT EITHER.
I JUST WANT TO FOCUS ON THE AIRPORT LEASED LAND THAT EXISTS IN THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.
THESE ARE ALL THE AIRPORT LEASES AND SUBLEASES THAT THE COUNTY OPERATES AS YOU CAN SEE, 60% OF ALL THE LEASES THAT THE COUNTY POSSESSES ARE IN THE CITY OF ARE AROUND GILLESPIE FIELD.
MOST OF THOSE ARE IN THE CITY OF ALCOHOL.
UH, 32% ARE, UM, ARE IN CARLSBAD AS PART OF THE PALOMAR MCCLELLAND AIRPORT.
SO 92% OF THE AIRPORT LEASES EXIST PRIMARILY IN TWO CITIES.
SO AGAIN, IF YOU'RE, IF YOU IGNORE THE VALUE OR THE, THE LACK OF VALUE OF HIGHER WAGES FOR EMPLOYEES, THAT'S IRRELEVANT.
BUT THE FACT THAT TWO CITIES ARE TAKING THE BRUNT OF PAYING FOR THIS PROGRAM IS AGAIN, INHERENTLY UNFAIR TO ALCOHOL AND TO A LESSER DEGREE
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CARLSBAD.SO, UM, JUST TO SUMMARIZE THE THREE NEGATIVE, THE BIG NEGATIVE IMPACTS THAT STAFF FEELS COMES FROM THIS ORDINANCE.
ONE, IT MARGINALIZES THE LARGEST EMPLOYMENT CENTER IN EAST COUNTY, AND IT KILLS A 500 JOB OPPORTUNITY IN THE WAREHOUSE PROJECT THAT WAS BEING PREPARED BY, UH, CHESTNUT DEVELOPMENT.
IT ALSO DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTS COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY AND IN THE REGION.
AND IT ALSO HAS THE ABILITY, IT HAS THE CHANCES THAT WILL INCREASE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.
AND SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT EACH OF THOSE THREE THINGS QUICKLY.
SO IN TERMS OF MARGINALIZING OUR EMPLOYMENT CENTER, ONE, IT MAKES ANY COMPANY THAT LEASES COUNTY LAND HAVE MORE EXPENSIVE OPERATIONAL COSTS.
SO IF YOU PRE, IF YOU MAKE A WIDGET AND YOU HAPPEN TO BE LOCATED IN ALCOHOL AND IN LEASE LAND FROM THE COUNTY AT MARKET RATE, AND YOUR COMPETITOR LEASES LAND FROM A NON COUNTY PROPERTY IN THE CITY OF ENCINITAS, YOU NOW OPERATE AT A DISADVANTAGE BECAUSE YOUR COSTS HAVE GONE UP.
AND SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? EITHER YOU GO OUT OF BUSINESS OR MOST LIKELY YOU WOULD RELOCATE YOUR BUSINESS WHEN THE OPPORTUNITY COMES, WHY WOULD YOU STAY HERE AND PAY 15, 16% MORE IN COSTS? THEN IF YOU CAN MOVE DOWN THE STREET AND PAY LESS WHAT IT DOES ALSO, WHEN YOU INCREASE THE COST TO DO BUSINESS AND YOU INCREASE THE COSTS OF DEVELOP LAND, YOU'VE ACTUALLY REDUCED THE ABILITY TO DO DEVELOPMENT, ULTIMATELY, UH, CHANGING BEST AND HIGHEST USES TO LOWER USES.
SO YOU GO FROM HAVING A, LET'S SAY A WAREHOUSE PROJECT, THAT'S GOING TO GENERATE 500 JOBS TO A TOW YARD THAT WILL GENERATE FIVE JOBS AND BE A BLIGHT IN THE COMMUNITY.
THAT'S THE KIND OF A SHIFT THAT OCCURS AS YOU DEVALUE LAND.
UM, THAT'S A CONCERN TO THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.
UM, WE THINK THAT, THAT IT PLACES, THE BUSINESSES THAT ARE LOCATED SPECIFICALLY IN ALCOHOL AT A DISADVANTAGE TO THEIR COMPETITORS OUTSIDE THAT ARE PLAYING BY A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SET OF RULES THAN OUR BUSINESSES HAVE TO PAY.
UM, SO IN OTHER WORDS, WE BELIEVE THAT THE WORKING FAMILIES ORDINANCE CLEARLY IS UNFAIR TO THE CITY OF ELK BECAUSE IT MARGINALIZES OUR LARGEST EMPLOYMENT CENTER IN EAST COUNTY.
AND IT PUTS A DISPROPORTIONATE BURDEN ON THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.
WE ALSO THINK THAT IT DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTS OF COLOR AND DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES.
HERE'S JUST A COUPLE DATA POINTS.
UH, ALCOHOLISM, UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS 40% HIGHER THAN, UH, THE REGION.
OUR, UM, LOW INCOME IS OUR, OUR, OUR INCOME, OUR MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME IS 27% LESS.
OUR, UM, NUMBER OF LOW INCOME INDIVIDUALS IS ALMOST 50% HIGHER.
OUR EDUCATIONAL ATTAINMENT IS 43% LESS THAN THE COUNTY AVERAGE.
WE HAVE HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF OUR HOUSING STOCK AS APARTMENTS, AND WE HAVE ALMOST DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF RENTERS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAN THE REGION.
WE CLEARLY HAVE A NEED FOR JOBS IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND IF THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WERE TO ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE, THEY THOUGHT OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE JOBS FOR OUR RESIDENTS, LOOKING AT SOME, UM, SURVEY THAT WAS PREPARED BY AN ECONOMIST THAT LOOKED AT GILLESPIE FIELD AND PALOMAR AND DID A SURVEY OF BUSINESSES.
IT WAS BETWEEN WE, THEY IDENTIFY BETWEEN 59 AND 67% OF THE EMPLOYEES ARE NONWHITE OR, OR THOSE OF COLOR.
SO, UM, THIS HAS A DISPROPORTIONATE EFFECT ON COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AS WELL.
THIS IS, UH, JUST, I'LL GO THROUGH A FEW GRAPHS THAT SHOW, UM, SOME INTERESTING STATISTICS.
REGION-WIDE THIS GRAPH SHOWS HOW COVID IMPACTED EMPLOYMENT IN THE REGION.
AS YOU CAN SEE ALCOHOL, UM, THERE IN PURPLE, IF YOU CAN'T SEE MY, MY CLICKER WITH THE LIGHT, BUT YOU KNOW WHERE ALCOHOL IS, YOU CAN SEE THAT W THAT WE'RE ONE OF THE HIGHEST IMPACTED, UM, REGIONS FROM AN EMPLOYMENT PERSPECTIVE AS A RESULT OF COVID.
AND SO, JUST AS WE'RE EMERGING OUT OF COVID, THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO PUSHES US BACK DOWN, UH, WE HAVE A MORE RACIALLY DIVERSE COMMUNITY, THE MOST, THE MOST RACIALLY DIVERSE COMMUNITY IN ALL OF THESE COUNTY.
WE ALSO HAVE ONE OF THE HIGHEST CONCENTRATION OF LOWEST INCOME INDIVIDUALS IN ALL OF THESE COUNTY.
SO IF, IF YOU BELIEVE IN STAFF FEELS THAT IF YOU BELIEVE IN, UM, ENSURING THAT COMMUNITIES OF COLOR AND COMMUTE, DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITIES HAVE A LEG UP, THEN YOU SHOULD BE OPPOSED TO THE WORKING FAMILIES ORDINANCE.
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THE LAST CONCERN THAT WE HAVE IS, UH, JOBS, HOW'S OUR HOUSING JOBS BALANCED.AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE SAN DIEGO FORWARD, UM, THE 20, 21 REGIONAL PLAN, IF YOU LOOK AT MOST, UM, CLIMATE ACTION PLANS, THERE IS A GOAL TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE JOBS LOCATED CLOSE TO HOUSING.
THAT WAY PEOPLE AREN'T TRAVELING ALL OVER THE COUNTY TO GET TO THEIR JOBS, HENCE REDUCING GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, UM, IN A, A SANDAG STUDY FROM 2016, IDENTIFIED THAT 14%, UM, OF ALCOHOL, OH, SORRY.
OF THE EMPLOYED RESIDENTS, 14% WORKING ALCOHOL, ONLY 14%, VERY SMALL.
SO ALMOST ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS COMMUTE OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF ALCOA AND OTHERS.
WE HAVE A JOB IN BALANCE IN EAST COUNTY.
UM, FORTUNATELY THAT INDUSTRIAL PARK HELPS ACCOMPLISH MUCH OF THE, THE LITTLE BIT OF BALANCE THAT WE HAVE IS BECAUSE OF THAT INDUSTRIAL PARK.
THIS MAP RIGHT HERE SHOWS, UH, WHERE OUR RESIDENTS GO TO WORK.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY TRAVEL ALL OVER THE COUNTY AND TO THE LARGER EMPLOYMENT CENTERS IN DOWNTOWN SAN DIEGO AND SORENTO VALLEY, UM, UP INTO THE GOLDEN TRIANGLE AREA, THAT'S WHERE OUR RESIDENTS ARE GOING.
AND OUR CONCERN STAFF'S CONCERN IS THAT IF BUSINESSES HAVE TO LOOK FOR NEW PLACES TO GO, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO GO TO THOSE PLACES.
THIS MAP SHOWS HOW OUR RESIDENTS GET TO THOSE PLACES.
NOW, IF YOU'VE TRAVELED ON THE 52 IN THE MORNING, OR THE EIGHT OR THE A 1 25 OR 94, YOU DON'T NEED A MAP TO TELL YOU WHERE THE CARS ARE, BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS THE MOST CONGESTED FREEWAYS IN THE COUNTY.
INTERESTINGLY, IT'S ALL COMING OUT OF WHERE EAST COUNTY SANDAG HAS SPENT VERY LITTLE RESOURCES ON OUR COUNTY, ON OUR PORTION OF THE COUNTY, WHERE THEY SPENT MORE RESOURCES ON OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTY.
THIS PROBLEM, THIS ORDINANCE ACTUALLY EXASPERATES THE CURRENT CONDITION THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
I WANTED TO SHOW THIS LAST MAP, AND THIS WOULD BE THE LAST MAP.
I SHOW YOU, THIS ACTUALLY SHOWS WHO COMES IN TO EMPLOYMENT TO RECEIVE EMPLOYMENT IN THE CITY OF ALCOA.
YOU CAN SEE THAT WE ATTRACT A LOT OF EAST COUNTY RESIDENTS THAT COME INTO OUR OWN CITY FOR EMPLOYMENT.
IMAGINE IF A LOT OF THOSE FOLKS ARE NOW TRAVELING BACK OUTSIDE, CONGESTING, THOSE FREEWAYS MORE, THAT WILL CONTRIBUTE MORE GREENHOUSE GAS TO THE SAN DIEGO REGION, TO THE ENVIRONMENT, COMPLETELY UNDERMINING ALL THE EFFORTS THAT THE COUNTY IS MAKING TO REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS.
SO IF, IF YOU, IF YOU WANT A CLEANER ENVIRONMENT, YOU CLEARLY AND LESS CONGESTION ON FREEWAYS AND REDUCE GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS, THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT YOU SHOULD NOT BE SUPPORTING.
SO, UM, WHO DO WE THINK SHOULD OPPOSE THIS? WE THINK THAT OUR REGIONAL PARTNERS OF MTS AND SANDACT SHOULD OPPOSE THIS.
AND IN FACT, THIS ORDINANCE ORDINANCE IS THE ANTITHESIS OF THEIR ULTIMATE GOALS.
AND SO, UM, STAFF WOULD CALL ON MTS BOARD MEMBERS AND SANDAG BOARD MEMBERS TO LOOK AT THIS INTO OPPOSES ORDINANCE AND ENCOURAGE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO OPPOSE THIS BECAUSE AS UNDERMINES, LIKE I SAID, ALL THE WORK THAT THEY'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO, IF YOU BELIEVE IN PROTECTING THE ENVIRONMENT, YOU SHOULD, YOU SHOULD OPPOSE THIS ORDINANCE.
UM, COMMUNITIES OF COLOR SHOULD BE OUTRAGED BY THIS ORDINANCE.
UH, IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES SHOULD BE FEARFUL AND FEEL MORE VULNERABLE BECAUSE OF THIS ORDINANCE AND THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY IN AN IRRATIONAL THINKING PERSON IN THIS COUNTY SHOULD OPPOSE US.
I'M REALLY HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE THAT JUST TODAY, WE RECEIVED A LETTER OF OPPOSITION TO THIS ORDINANCE FROM THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY HISPANIC CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
THEY SEE THAT THIS WILL HAVE A DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT ON COMMUNITIES OF COLOR, SPECIFICALLY LATIN OWNED AND WOMEN OWNED BUSINESSES IN THE REGION.
AND THIS IS A BAD THING FOR BUSINESSES.
SO WITH THAT STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT THE RESOLUTION OF OPPOSITION THAT'S BEEN PREPARED AND AS PART OF THE REPORT, UM, WE WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO WORK WITH STAFF AND HELPING TO DEVELOP A COALITION OF INTEREST GROUPS THAT WOULD OPPOSE THIS ORDINANCE.
UH, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WE ACTUALLY HOLD A PRESS CONFERENCE AND GET IN FRONT OF THE NEWS PR NOT.
I WOULD RECOMMEND CLOSER TO THE OCTOBER DATE, UH, THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WILL BE SEEING THIS AND THAT WE PROVIDE TESTIMONY THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CLEARLY UNDERSTANDS THAT THIS IS A DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT ON ALCOHOL.
THAT WE'RE, WE'RE BEARING MORE BURDENED THAN ANYONE ELSE IN THE COUNTY IS.
AND IF THE COUNTY WANTS TO DO THIS, THERE SHOULD BE A MORE FAIR AND EQUITABLE WAY OF ACHIEVING THIS GOAL.
SO WITH THAT STAFF IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
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I DO BELIEVE THERE ARE SOME PUBLIC COMMENTS ABOUT THIS, BUT WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.UM, COUNSEL, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I DO HAVE A COMMENT IF THAT'S ALLOWABLE AHEAD.
SO I JUST FEEL THAT THE COUNTY LOOKS AT ALCOHOL AND IS SORT OF A CASH COW.
UM, WE GET AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF THINGS DUMPED ON US, UM, THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF.
UM, WE HAVE, AND I DON'T MEAN WE HAVE SEX OFFENDERS DUMPED OUT IN EAST COUNTY ALCOHOL.
WE HAVE, UM, AND I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE BEING DUMPED OUT HERE, BUT WE HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF, UH, IMMIGRANTS OUT HERE THAT NEED WORK THAT NEEDS SUPPORT ALCOHOL AND HAS SOME ROOM TO GROW IN, IN SOME RESPECT OR OUT HERE IN EAST COUNTY.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE THE COUNTY IS JUST CONSTANTLY POUNDING ON ALCOHOL TO GET MORE MONEY OUT OF US.
AND I'M THOROUGHLY AGAINST US THOROUGHLY AGAINST THIS RESOLUTION.
UM, IT AFFECTS MY DISTRICT EXTREMELY HARD.
AND PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE I CAN DO.
I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
UM, THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UH, ONE THING I THINK MIGHT BE HELPFUL IS TO MAYBE DEFINE, AND MAYBE GIVE SOME NUMBERS FOR PREVAILING WAGE I'VE HEARD AND SEE, CAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S THE BIG NAIL IN THE COFFIN FOR A LOT OF THESE BUSINESSES AND I'VE HEARD DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS OF PREVAILING WAGE CAN BE AN INCREASE IN PEOPLE'S HOURLY RATE BY ABOUT 30% IN MY OFTEN IN, IN THOSE NUMBERS.
UH, NO, THERE'S SO MANY JOB DESCRIPTIONS.
IF YOU GO TO THE COUNTY, IF YOU GO TO THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND JUST START TYPING AND JOBS, WHICH WE'VE DONE, WE'VE, WE'VE LOOKED UP LOTS OF DIFFERENT TRADES JOBS.
THAT WOULD BE TYPICAL PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE WORKING IN, UM, THE, UH, GILLESPIE FIELD AREA, THE CITY OF EL CAHONE.
UH, I'LL GIVE YOU EXAMPLE, A TREE TRIMMER.
YOU COULD IMAGINE TAYLOR GUITARS HAS WONDERFUL LANDSCAPING.
THEY PROBABLY HIRE A LANDSCAPE COMPANY THAT THEY WOULD NOW HAVE TO NOW PROVIDE PREVAILING WAGE TO DO THE LANDSCAPING.
A TREE TRIMMER TYPICALLY MAKE $16 AN HOUR IN THE MARKET.
IF YOU WERE TO GO ONTO CRAIGSLIST AND LOOK FOR A TREE TRIMMING JOB, 16 BUCKS AN HOUR UNDER PREVAILING WAGE, IT'S ABOUT $21 AN HOUR.
THAT'S ABOUT A 30% INCREASE THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH A LOT OF DIFFERENT JOB CATEGORIES.
AND THAT TENDS TO BE THE AMOUNT.
NOW WHAT'S INTERESTING THOUGH, THOUGH, IS WE'RE, WE'RE IN AN ECONOMY WHERE EVERYONE IS HAVING TO PAY MORE THAN MINIMUM WAGE AND IT'S PUSHING WAGES UP.
AND IN FACT, A STUDY IN THE FOLKS FROM GILLESPIE FIELD COULD PROBABLY COMMENT ON IT, BUT THEY DID A SURVEY AND THEY LOOKED AT WHAT PERCENTAGE OF FOLKS WERE MAKING MORE THAN $20 AN HOUR.
AND I DON'T HAVE THAT FIGURE IN FRONT OF ME, BUT IT WAS OVER 50% WERE MAKING OVER $20 AN HOUR.
UM, NOW GRANTED, THAT'S STILL DIFFICULT TO BUY A HOUSE 20 BUCKS AN HOUR IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY, BUT IT'S, IT'S FAR ABOVE MINIMUM WAGE BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF TRADES JOBS IN THAT, UM, BUSINESS DISTRICT.
SO THAT HELPS ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
WE DO THINK IT COULD BE UP TO THE, AROUND THE 30%, 30%.
AND I MEAN, THERE'S A DIVERSE, I USED TO ACTUALLY WORK IN THE, UH, IN THAT GILLESPIE FIELD BUSINESS PARK AREA.
ONE OF MY FORMER EMPLOYER EMPLOYERS IS THERE AND I WANT TO COMMENT, OR MAYBE THE QUESTION IS THIS IS GOING TO APPLY TO EVERY BUSINESS THERE.
SO WHETHER YOU OWN A SANDWICH SHOP OR A LITTLE COFFEE CART OR AN AIR CONDITIONING COMPANY, OR A HOUSE OF MAGNETS IS A BUSINESS THERE WHERE THEY CREATE MAGNETS FOR PROMOTIONAL ITEMS, FOR OTHER BUSINESSES, EVERY EMPLOYEE, EVERY BUSINESS IN THAT AREA WILL BE SUBJECT TO BE PAYING THEIR EMPLOYEES, PREVAILING WAGE RATES.
NOW THIS WOULD, THIS WOULD KICK IN FOR MOST BUSINESSES UNLESS THEY HAVE A CLAUSE IN THEIR LEASE THAT WOULD NOT DO THAT WOULD KICK IN WHEN THEY RENEW THEIR LEASE.
AGAIN, THE SURVEY PREPARED BY THE FOLKS WHO ARE ON GILLESPIE FIELD IDENTIFIED THAT 61% OF THE BUSINESSES IN THAT RESPOND TO THIS SURVEY HAVE LESS THAN FIVE YEARS ON THEIR LEASE AGREEMENT.
SO THAT'S, THERE'S GONNA BE A BIG TURNOVER.
THE OTHER THING THAT MAKES IT COMPLICATED IS IF YOU'RE A, A NATIONAL BASED BUSINESS OR EVEN A, A SAN DIEGO BASED BUSINESS, LET'S SAY COX COMMUNICATIONS, IF YOU HAVE DIFFERENT RATES OF PAY FOR THOSE THAT WORK IN OKLAHOMA, VERSUS THOSE THAT MAY BE HAVE, UH, UH, THE OFFICES IN KEARNY MESA, WHY WOULD YOU, WHY WOULD YOU PAY YOUR EMPLOYEES THAT ARE DOING THE EXACT SAME JOB MORE BECAUSE
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THEY'RE BASED OUT OF ALCOHOL, YOU WOULD MOVE THOSE FOLKS IMMEDIATELY OUT OF ELKO TO THE KEARNY MESA FACILITY.WE WILL SEE A GUTTING OF OUR INDUSTRIAL PARK IN LESS THAN FIVE YEARS.
AND SO I DON'T, AND YOU DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL, BUT TALK TO ME ABOUT IF THIS, IF THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO PASSES THIS ORDINANCE, I MEAN, WHAT DOES THAT LAND GOING TO LOOK LIKE? IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE DEAD LAND.
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO VACATE IT IN DROVES, AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENS TO VACANT LOTS IN EAST COUNTY.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE DEAD LAND.
AM I WRONG IN ASSUMING THAT WELL, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A WRONG ASSUMPTION, BUT WHAT IT WILL DO FOR SURE IT WILL CHANGE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE.
AND RIGHT NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT WHO THE TENANTS IN OUR INDUSTRIAL PARK ARE, OUR TENANTS THAT ANYONE IN THE UNITED STATES WOULD BE PROUD TO CALL HOME.
I MEAN, TAYLOR GUITARS CALLS ELK OWN HOME.
THEY CALL SAN DIEGO COUNTY HOME.
UM, THE POT, THEY POTENTIALLY WILL NO LONGER CALL CALIFORNIA HOME AFTER THIS GOES INTO EFFECT.
AND ONE OF THE FEARS THAT I HAVE IS, YOU KNOW, AMAZON JUST OPENED UP THEIR, UM, HUGE, UM, MANUFACTURING DISTRIBUTION CENTER IN BAJA, CALIFORNIA.
AND, UM, TAYLOR GUITARS HAS PLENTY OF, UM, SKILLED WORKFORCE THAT COULD JUST MOVE IT ACROSS THE BORDER.
AND THESE ARE JOBS THAT ARE LEAVING OUR COMMUNITY THAT ARE GOOD PAYING JOBS AND MOVING ACROSS THE BORDER, IT'S ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED.
THE PROOF OF CONCEPT IS THERE WHERE, EH, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU CAN HAVE A, UH, COMPANY ESTABLISHED IN BAJA AND IT'LL BE ULTRA SUCCESSFUL.
AND ALL THAT SKILLED WORKFORCE IS, IS, IS, IS MOVING DOWN THERE.
UM, THOSE ARE ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE.
I'LL I'LL SAY MY COMMENTS UNTIL AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.
I GET A SENSE IN OKLAHOMA THAT THE COUNTY OWNED LAND IS A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF OUR TOTAL LAND THAN ANY OTHER CITY.
SO THIS IS A BIG DEAL FOR ALCOHOL AND MOST CITIES HAVE ONE OR TWO PARCELS OF COUNTY OWNED LAND.
SO IF WE DIDN'T HAVE GILLESPIE FIELD, FOR EXAMPLE, WE WOULD HAVE A COUNTY PROPERTY OVER HERE ON MAGNOLIA.
WE HAVE THE FORMER ASSESSOR'S OFFICE THAT THAT'S KIND OF A TYPICAL COMMUNITY.
SO YOU COULD ASSUME MOST COMMUNITIES, LEMON GROVE, FOR EXAMPLE, HAS ONE OR TWO COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY.
SO, UM, THAT ARE ACTUALLY COUNTY OFFICES.
SO YOU TAKE OUT THE COUNTY ON PROPERTIES AND SAY, HOW MANY HAVE ACTUAL LEASE PROPERTIES? IT COULD, THE MAJORITY OF CITIES IT'S LESS THAN FIVE, BUT WE HAVE 300.
I WANT TO MAKE COMMENT, ESPECIALLY TO THE PRESS IN THE BACK.
IT SEEMS CLEAR TO ME THAT THIS IS A ORDINANCE BY THE COUNTY DESIGNED TO ATTACK THE CITY OF ALCOHOL.
THEY HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF, WHY ARE THEY TRYING TO ATTACK THE CITY OF ALCOHOL? WE ALL KNOW THAT THE COUNTY HAS GONE VERY RADICAL, LEFT WALK.
AND WE KNOW THAT THE CITY OF ALCOHOL IS CONSERVATIVE.
I CONTEND THAT THIS IS BLATANT, PURE POLITICS, HARDBALL POLITICS, AND I COULD FIGHT ALL DAY WRONG.
I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYBODY SAYS ABOUT ME, BUT THEY'RE NOT ATTACKING ME AND NOT ATTACKING THE REST OF THIS COUNCIL.
THEY'RE ATTACKING THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE IN OKLAHOMA.
THEY'RE TAKING THEIR WOKE POLITICS AND THEY'RE DESTROYING LIVES.
AND I WANT THE SAN DIEGO UNIT TO HEAR ME SAY THAT.
I SURE HOPE THAT THE EDITOR DOESN'T PASS OVER THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE TOO AFRAID TO HAVE CONSERVATIVE COMMENTS THAT HAVE REAL COMMENTARY.
UM, ALL RIGHT, BEFORE WE GO ON, I WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY, UH, SPEAKER CARDS ON THE SIDE OF, WE HAVE SIX COMMENTS.
THE FIRST ONE IS FROM JORDAN KEG, LOVITZ.
I AM THE LEGAL MANAGER AT TAYLOR GUITARS, WHO WE'VE ALL HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT TODAY.
UM, TAYLOR GUITARS IS LOCATED IN GILLESPIE FIELD AREA, SO GREATLY IMPACTED BY, UM, THIS MEASURE.
AND WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT IT TODAY.
TAYLOR GUITARS HAS SOUNDED AND BEEN OPERATING OUT OF THE ALCOHOL EAST COUNTY AREA FOR THE PAST 47 YEARS OF OUR COMPANY'S HISTORY.
UM, SO I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF OUR COMPANY TO OFFER OUR SUPPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL'S RESOLUTION IN OPPOSITION OF THIS WORKING FAMILIES ORDINANCE.
AND WITH THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE A FEW COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE PREPARED FOR YOU GUYS TODAY.
A KEY TENANT OF TAYLOR GUITARS IS TO PROVIDE A HIGH STANDARD OF LIVING FOR ALL OF OUR TEAM MEMBERS IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.
OUR ENTRY LEVEL WAGE IS $16 AN HOUR, WHICH IS 14% HIGHER THAN THE MINIMUM WAGE.
ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE BENEFITS PROGRAMS, INCLUDING A 401K BONUS STRUCTURE
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PAID TIME OFF, AND WE'RE A NEWLY FORMED AESOP, WHICH PROVIDES EMPLOYEES WITH OWNERSHIP, BENEFITS, ALL OF WHICH SHOWCASE THAT VERY INTENT, GENERALLY SPEAKING FROM LABOR ISSUES TO THE ENVIRONMENT, WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN HAPPY TO COMPLY WITH COUNTY AND STATE MANDATES AND DOING OUR PART WITH THE COMMUNITY.AND WHILE WE AGREE WITH THE SPIRIT OF THIS ORDINANCE, THAT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY NECESSARILY OBJECTS THE LETTER OF IT PLACES, AN UNDUE BURDEN ON OUR BUSINESS.
WE CURRENTLY EMPLOY MORE THAN 500 PEOPLE WITHIN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.
THE FINANCIAL FRAMEWORK OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE WOULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT OUR ABILITY TO DO BUSINESS POTENTIALLY RESULTING IN LAYOFFS AND FORCE US TO RECONSIDER OPERATING WITHIN THE COUNTY OR BOTH FURTHER.
WE DO NOT FEEL THE COUNTY SHOULD BE DICTATING HOW WE RUN OUR BUSINESS NOR ENTERTAINING AN ORDINANCE THAT GIVES BUSINESSES NO INDICATION OF WHAT WAGE REQUIREMENTS MAY BE.
THIS ALONE MAKES BUSINESS PLANNING IMPOSSIBLE.
LASTLY, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT SINCE 1974, WE HAVE GROWN FROM A THREE PERSON GUITAR SHOP INTO THE LARGEST AND MOST WELL-REGARDED GUITAR MANUFACTURER IN THE WORLD.
AND WE'RE PROUD TO BE HERE IN OKLAHOMA.
WE FEEL THAT WE HAVE PLAYED AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN THE ECONOMIC CONTRIBUTIONS TO THIS COUNTY AND ARE PROUD TO BE AS A BUSINESS LEADER IN THIS COMMUNITY.
CALMING BARRY BARTEK MORNING, MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, UM, MR. MITCHELL COVERED A LOT OF STUFF I WAS GOING TO COVER.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT THE STUFF HE'S ALREADY COVERED.
UM, WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND ABOUT HOW THE AIRPORT SYSTEM WORKS AND HOW THIS IS GOING TO HARM US SERIOUSLY? ALL THE REVENUES THAT COME IN FROM THE INDUSTRIAL PARK GO INTO AN AIRPORT ENTERPRISE FUND THAT'S WHAT'S USED TO OPERATE THE AIRPORT SYSTEM.
IF ALL THE RENTERS THAT ARE IN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK, MOVE OUT BECAUSE OF THIS, THE MAJOR LEASE HOLDERS ARE GONNA NOT BE ABLE TO MEET THEIR LEASE REQUIREMENTS.
AND EVENTUALLY THEY'LL DEFAULT ON THE LEASES.
AND AGAIN, THE WHOLE AREA WILL BECOME ABANDONED OR A GOOD PORTION OF IT.
UM, SO THAT'S EXTREMELY HARMFUL.
THE FAA REQUIRES THE AIRPORT SYSTEM TO BE SELF-SUSTAINING.
IT IS SELF-SUSTAINED THE WHOLE SYSTEM, BASICALLY BECAUSE OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK AT GILLESPIE FIELD THAT SUPPORTS THE WHOLE SYSTEM.
THERE'S EIGHT COUNTY AIRPORTS, SUPPORT SOME ALL, IF THIS THING PASSES ALL, THAT'S GOING TO GO AWAY.
AND FROM THE FAS POINT OF VIEW IS IT DIDN'T GO AWAY BECAUSE OF UNCONTROLLED CIRCUMSTANCES AT ONE WAY, BECAUSE A CHANGE IN POLICY BY THE COUNTY GOVERNMENT THAT MADE IT A, AN ABANDONED AREA AND MAY THE AIRPORT SYSTEM NO LONGER SELF-SUSTAINING THEY'RE IN VIOLATION OF FAA GRANT ASSURANCE REQUIREMENTS BECAUSE OF THAT.
SO FROM AN FAA POINT OF VIEW, WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS NOT LEGAL AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED.
AND, UH, I BELIEVE IT IT'S A, IT'S A JOB KILLING IT.
CAN ECONOMY KILLING ATTACK ON EAST COUNTY HAS ALREADY CAUSED ELKHORN CITY OVER 400 JOBS.
MR. MITCHELL, ELLA ALREADY ALLUDED TO THAT.
UM, AMAZON WAS NEGOTIATING FOR USING THIS PROPERTY FOR A DISTRIBUTION CENTER AND THEY MOVED OUT AND, AND ABANDONED THE NEGOTIATIONS BECAUSE OF THIS THEY'VE ALREADY COST US.
IN MY MIND, THE COUNTY IS ATTACKING THE CITY OF ALCOHOL AND GENTLEMEN LEE, YOU NEED TO PUT A STOP TO IT SOMEHOW YOU'VE FORGOT TO STOP THIS.
THIS IS NOT A WORKING FAMILIES ORDINANCE.
IT'S AN ANTI-ALCOHOL ORDINANCE.
UM, THE EVIL OF THIS IS JUST MIND BOGGLING.
IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT YOU PASS A MOTION TO MAKE IT CLEAR TO THE COUNTY.
NOT ONLY THAT YOU OPPOSE IT, BUT WHY YOU OPPOSE IT AND MAKE IT CLEAR TO THE NEWS MEDIA THAT THIS IS AN ATTACK ON THE ECONOMY OF ALCOHOL.
DO YOU WORK FOR THE AIRPORT? YES.
I AM A CHIEF FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR AT GOLDEN STATE FLYING CLUB BASED AT GILLESPIE.
I'VE BEEN THERE FOR ABOUT 19 YEARS AS CHIEF INSTRUCTOR.
AND HOW WILL THIS AFFECT YOUR BUSINESS? UM, IT COULD PUT US OUT OF WORK OUT OF BUSINESS ENTIRELY.
IT'S DEFINITELY GONNA COST FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR, JOBS, X, MY COST, MY JOB.
I HAVE A PLANE AT GILLESPIE FIELD.
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IF IT GOES THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LESS MONEY TO BE ABLE TO SUPPORT HOW AND WHERE WE KEEP OUR AIRPLANES.AND I WOULD LIKE TO APPLAUD YOU FOR OPPOSING THIS THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
OCCASIONALLY DOESN'T HAVE A CLEAR VIEW OR UNDERSTANDING OF A LOT OF THINGS AS IT'S BEEN IN THE PRESS LATELY.
DENNIS BRESLIN, UH, MAYOR WELLS, UM, COUNCIL.
UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PROPOSING THIS OPPOSITION TO THE, UH, TO THE ORDINANCE AND, UH, GRAHAM MITCHELL.
YOUR ASSESSMENT IS SO ACCURATE.
I HOPE THAT YOU CONSIDER SOMEHOW BEING ABLE TO GIVE THAT PRESENTATION, MAYBE A LITTLE SHORTER AT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL THE FACTS THERE.
WHEN I STARTED LAYING THIS OUT AND I READ YOUR ASSESSMENT EARLIER, I THOUGHT, HOLY MACKEREL, THIS IS ABOUT AS GOOD AS IT GETS.
IT'S VERY DEEP ANALYSIS OF THE EFFECT ON ELK ON ITSELF.
I'M MY NAME IS DENIS BRESLIN AND THE PRESIDENT OF THE GILLESPIE POLICY ASSOCIATION.
AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY HARD WITH THE VARIOUS ALLIES.
WE HAVE TRYING TO DEFEAT THIS ORDINANCE.
AND AT THE OUTSET, IF WE CAN'T DEFEAT THE DARN THING, AT LEAST EXEMPT AIRPORT PROPERTIES, AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF ACREAGE.
AND, UH, THE GPA WE HAD VOLUNTEERS AND WE, I CALLED FOR THEM AT A MEETING, UH, IN AUGUST.
AND WE WALKED ABOUT A HALF OF THE 339 PROPERTIES.
AND IF YOU THINK THE, UH, THE OCCUPANCY RATE IS LOW NOW, AND WE FOUND MANY DOORS, LOCKED, MANY DOORS, SHUTTERED, DARKEN, PLACES THAT HAVE BEEN ABANDONED.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE COUNTY EVEN KNOWS HOW MANY OF THOSE, UH, SPACES ARE EVEN OCCUPIED.
I DON'T THINK THEY, THEY KNOW WHO.
IN FACT, WE HAVE A LIST OF THEM AND THEY WERE WOEFULLY OUT OF DATE.
WE WENT AND UPDATED THOSE BY WALKING THROUGH THE PROPERTIES AND TALKING TO THE OWNERS.
AND THE DISTURBING FACT WAS HARDLY ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THIS ORDINANCE.
WE'RE AWARE OF IT AND THOSE THAT EVEN HEARD OF IT.
AND THEN WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING TO THESE PEOPLE AND OFFERING THE PETITION TO OPPOSE IT, WHICH THEY DID ONLINE WITH THE CHESTNUT PROPERTIES AND THE LAND AND COUNTY, UH, PROPERTY, UH, COALITION'S WEBSITE.
AND, UH, THEY DIDN'T UNDERSTAND PREVAILING WAGE AT ALL.
AND HAVING BEEN INVOLVED IN THE, AS IN THE PILOT UNION OF AMERICAN AIRLINES FOR 31 YEARS, UH, I CAN TELL YOU WHERE PREVAILING WAGES COME FROM A COLLECTIVE BARGAINING PROCESS WITH THE UNIONS WILL HEAR THAT THE COUNTY IS TRYING TO FORCE PREVAILING WAGE ON PEOPLE THAT HAVE NO ABILITY TO NEGOTIATE THAT.
AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS IF YOU CAN'T NEGOTIATE, IT IS A CRAMDOWN DOWN OF, OF STANDARDS THAT DON'T HAVE ANY BASIS AND FOUNDATION, NOR ARE THEY CONNECTED TO THE ABILITY OF THOSE BUSINESSES TO PAY.
THEY CAN'T ACCURATELY ASSESS WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST THEM.
WHEN FBO AT THE AIRPORT SAYS, THIS WILL COST HIM ABOUT $600,000 MORE THAN ANNUALLY, THEN THEY THEY'RE CURRENTLY PAYING.
AND IN FACT, SOME OF THOSE FPOS AT THE AIRPORT ARE DOWN 70% IN REVENUE FROM COVID FROM LAST YEAR, AND THEY'RE NOT RECOVERING FOR, FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
THE PRICE OF FUEL IS SKY HIGH.
FEW FLOWAGE RATES AT GILLESPIE FIELD ARE HIGH.
SO, UH, PEOPLE ARE FLYING LESS.
AND SOME OF THE IMMIGRATION POLICIES DUE TO, UH, VARIOUS, UH, GOVERNMENT ISSUES, UH, PREVENTING FOREIGN PILOTS FROM TRAINING GILLESPIE FIELD, WHICH IS A HUGE RESOURCE.
SO I HOPE, UH, MR. MITCHELL IS YOU'LL BE ABLE TO BRING THAT PRESENTATION TO THE COUNTY.
THAT WAS THE MOST EXCELLENT PRESENTATION I'VE EVER HEARD.
IT'S PROBABLY THE BEST COLLECTION OF FACTS AND THE GILLESPIE PILOTS ASSOCIATION.
NUMBER ONE FOR PUTTING THIS ON THE AGENDA AND I'M SURE THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING TO PASS IT.
THIS IS DEVASTATING FOR ALCOHOL IS DEVASTATING FOR THE AIRPORT COMMUNITY.
UH, ROBERT SHANZ, UH, THANK YOU, STAFF AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I WORK WITH DIVERSIFIED PROPERTIES AND WE ARE ONE OF THE LAND LEASE OWNERS OF THE GLASBY FIELD BUSINESS PARK.
WE HAVE, I THINK WE'VE DEVELOPED 13 BUILDINGS IN THE PARK OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS.
IT'S REALLY THE FIRST PROJECT I WORKED ON OUT OF COLLEGE.
IT WAS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY OF SAN DIEGO TO BRING EMPLOYMENT MUCH NEEDED EMPLOYMENT TO OUR AREA AND WHAT GRAHAM WENT OVER.
I JUST ECHO A GREAT PRESENTATION.
I WOULD JUST, UH, MAYBE ADD SOME COLOR TO SOME OF THE THINGS.
IF THIS ORDINANCE DOES PASS, IT'S GOING TO JUST IMPACT THE LAND VALUE OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, HIGHEST AND BEST USE IS ESSENTIALLY GOING TO BECOME WAREHOUSE WITH NO EMPLOYEES.
SO THERE'S A NEED FOR THAT, BUT IT'S GOING TO DRASTICALLY REDUCE THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTIES, WHICH THEN IN TURN WILL BRING, UH, THE LEASES ARE BASED OFF OF THE LAND VALUE.
SO FROM AN ECONOMIC STANDPOINT, THE COUNTY
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WILL BE CUTTING THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT THERE'LL BE BRINGING THAT SUPPORTS THE AIRPORT.UM, SO I WOULD JUST, UH, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN OPPOSING THIS IT'S IT'S, UH, IT IS JUST SUCH A, UM, VAGUE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE COULDN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS BEING REQUIRED IN THE ORDINANCE.
UM, THERE ARE BUZZWORDS LIKE SKILLED AND TRAINED AND PREVAILING WAGES THAT ARE, UH, PREDOMINANTLY USED IN UNION NEGOTIATIONS.
UM, ONE THING THAT WAS INTERESTING AS WE WERE TALKING TO SOME OF OUR TENANTS IS, UM, WE CREATE THE BUSINESS PARK, PROVIDES A LOT OF JOBS THAT ACTUALLY TRAIN ON THE JOB TRAINING SO THAT THEN THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME SKILLED AND ADVANCE INTO HIGHER JOBS.
AND THIS ORDINANCE WOULD TAKE THAT OUT ALTOGETHER.
SO THERE'S, IT'S ALREADY JUST SETTING A BASIS FOR, UM, THE BUSINESSES ARE EITHER GOING TO LEAVE THE PARK AND GO MAYBE NEXT DOOR.
MAYBE THEY STAY IN ALCOHOL AND IF THEY FIND PRIVATE LAND, BUT THERE'S JUST NOT A LOT OF PRODUCT, YOU KNOW, OUT THERE.
AND IT WOULD JUST BE A SHAME TO SEE THE 30 YEARS OF, UH, HARD WORK THAT WE'VE PUT IN TO THIS AREA.
JUST BE TAKEN AWAY WITH ONE PASS OF THIS ORDINANCE.
YEAH, STEVE, I'VE GOT A QUESTION.
UH, SO YOU BUILD BUILDINGS THAT PEOPLE SUBLET OR LEASE FROM YOU.
WE HAVE THE MASTER LEASE WITH THE COUNTY.
SO WHEN YOU, OKAY, SO, AND THIS IS LIKE A 50 YEAR LEASE.
UH, IT WAS A 55 YEAR LEASE AT THE TIME AND WE HAVE OPTIONS TO RENEW.
UM, THE TRIGGER THAT GRAHAM MENTIONED IS OCCASIONALLY WE HAVE TO GO TO THE COUNTY IF WE'RE GETTING FINANCING OR WHEN IT GETS CLOSE TO THE END OF THE TERM, WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT A RENEWAL OF THE GROUND LEASE TERM.
AND THAT'S WHEN ALL OF THESE BURDENS WILL BE TRIGGERED.
SO WHEN YOU BUILD A, A BUILDING FOR A ABC MANUFACTURING COMPANY TO GO IN, IF YOU'RE REQUIRED TO PAY PREVAILING RATE TO BUILD THE BUILDING, WILL YOU GET A CUT FROM THE COUNTY IN A REDUCTION, THE GROUND LEASE THAT YOU PAY? I KIND OF DOUBT IT.
I, I DON'T EVEN, I COULDN'T EVEN FIGURE OUT HOW ALL OF THIS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WHOLE ORDINANCE IS GOING TO BE MANAGED OR, UH, ENFORCED.
OKAY, SIR, THE LAST COMMENT WAS SUBMITTED ONLINE.
IT'S A LENGTHY COMMENTS, SO I'LL SET THE TIMER AND READ AS MUCH AS I CAN LIMIT.
IT'S FROM LEE CHESTNUT OWNER OF CHESTNUT PROPERTIES AND GROUNDLESS SEE OF THE 30 ACRE COUNTY AIRPORT LAND AT WELD BOULEVARD AND CUYAMACA STREET IN OKLAHOMA.
AND THE COMMENT READS, I WANT TO THANK EACH OF YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND ENGAGING A FULL-SCALE EFFORT TO DEFEAT THE PROPOSED FAMILY WAGE ORDINANCE BEING BROUGHT FORWARD BY THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
WHEN I ENCOUNTERED DIRECT OPPOSITION FROM THIS BOARD THREATENING A NEW ERA, WHICH ORDINANCE IS I CAME TO THE FINISH LINE ON MY PROJECT AND WAS PREPARING TO SIGN LEASES.
I WAS DEVASTATED AND FELT ALONE.
AND THE CHALLENGE, WHAT I DISCOVERED IN THE WEEKS FOLLOWING THE JULY 13TH HEARING WAS THAT I WAS PART OF A COMMUNITY UPRISING AGAINST THIS ORDINANCE, KNOWING THAT I WAS NOT ALONE IN THIS HAS MADE ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN MY RESOLVE IN STAMINA AND WORKING TO HELP PROVIDE A STRONG PROFESSIONAL AND LEGALLY SOUND OPPOSITION.
AS YOU ALL KNOW, OUR COMMUNITIES FEEL WITH GREAT COMPANIES AND GREAT PEOPLE WHO CARE DEEPLY EVEN TO THE POINT OF SACRIFICE FOR EVERY SINGLE WORKER THAT THEY EMPLOY.
THIS WAGE FIGHT IS NOT ABOUT OUR COMMITMENT TO SUPPORTING EVERY EMPLOYEE INSIGNIFICANT WAYS, BUT ODDLY, IT'S A BOUT A FIGHT AGAINST AN IDEAL THAT IS BEING MANDATED BY A GROUP OF POLITICIANS WHO BELIEVED THE ONLY WAY TO IMPROVE THE LIVES OF EMPLOYEES IS THROUGH LAWS AND MANDATES FROM THE GOVERNMENT.
THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE IS IN MY OPINION, IRRESPONSIBLE IN THAT THE COUNTY LEADERSHIP HAS PUT ALL BUSINESSES AND GROUNDLESS SEAS ON NOTICE THAT A HUGE CHANGE IS COMING AND THAT WILL IMPOSE NEW WAGE COST ON ALL OF US IRRESPONSIBLE IN THE SENSE THAT THE DRAFT LANGUAGE SAYS THINGS LIKE IT IS PERSPECTIVE AND ACTUAL WAGES WOULD BE HIGHER OF ALL APPLICABLE WAGE LAWS THAT COME AT ANY TIME IN THE FUTURE.
THIS MEANS THAT THERE IS NO WAY THAT ANY COMPANY OR GROUNDLESS SEAS CAN PREDICT WHAT WILL BE REQUIRED AND IMPOSED UPON THEM.
AND THEREFORE ANY LONG-TERM PLANNING BECOMES IMPOSSIBLE.
AS YOU KNOW, DOES THAT THREAT OF THIS ORDINANCE HAS ALREADY COST OVER 400 GREAT JOBS FOR THE WELD PROPERTY THAT I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR OVER FIVE YEARS.
IT HAD ALSO BEGUN TO UNDERMINE THE COMPETENCE BUSINESS OWNERS HAVE AS TO THEIR GREAT ALKA HOME-BASED BUSINESSES ALREADY.
WHAT WAS A NORMAL EXERCISE OF AN
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OPTION ON A 3000 SQUARE FOOT INDUSTRIAL LEASE HAS RESULTED IN UNCERTAINTY AND TENANTS REQUIRE THEM THEIR LANDLORD TO PROTECT THEM FROM AN ORDINANCE LIKE THIS EVER TAKING PLACE.IRONICALLY, I AM UNABLE TO ATTEND THIS VERY IMPORTANT CITY COUNCIL MEETING THIS AFTERNOON, DUE TO AN AMAZING OPPORTUNITY.
I HAVE TO DISCUSS MY EASTERN CHULAVISTA MILLENNIA SMART PARK DEVELOPMENT AT PRECISELY THE SAME TIME AS YOU'RE HEARING, I AM VERY CONCERNED THAT THE ACCENT SAME THING MAY HAPPEN TO THIS INCREDIBLE PROJECT, TO THE BROADER SAN DIEGO COMMUNITY.
THIS THREAT WE FACE IN OKLAHOMA IS LOOMING OVER MY OTHER PROJECTS AND MANY OTHER PROJECTS.
OTHER DEVELOPERS HAVE WORKED SO HARD TO DELIVER.
I SHARE THIS TO ILLUSTRATE THIS FIGHT AGAINST THIS UNFAIR AND ILLOGICAL ORDINANCE IS A HUGE FIGHT FOR ME PERSONALLY, AND A HUGE FIGHT FOR THE GREATER GOOD IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND LOCAL AND REGIONAL ECONOMIES.
OUR TEAM HAS SUBMITTED HIGH QUALITY, HIGH LEVEL REPORTS TO THE COUNTY AS TO THE DISASTROUS AND IMMEDIATE ECONOMIC EFFECT OF THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE, AS WELL AS CLEAR LEGAL MEMOS, THAT POINT OUT ORDINANCE CONFLICTS.
UM, AND IT'S STILL HAVE MAYBE ABOUT A MINUTE TO GO IF YOU'D LIKE, THANK YOU.
UM, THAT POINT OUT THE ORDINANCE CONFLICTS WITH FAA ASSURANCES, THE COUNTY HAS MADE TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND A LEGAL MEMORANDUM ILLUSTRATING THAT THE METHOD OF IMPLEMENTING THIS KIND OF ORDINANCE MAY VERY WELL IN DIRECT CONFLICT WITH STATE AND FEDERAL CONSTITUTIONAL LAW.
I AM OFFICIALLY REQUESTING THAT IF THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS NEED TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE, IT SHOULD BE REVISED, BE A REVERSE REVISED VERSION OF THIS PERSPECTIVE ORDINANCE ONLY WITH AN EXCEPTION FOR ALL COUNTY AIRPORTS LAND.
WITH THIS EXCEPTION, WE WILL BE PROTECTED FROM THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE AND ITS EFFECT ON THE CITY OF ALCOHOL.
I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR WORK AND COMMITMENT TO A POST, THIS EFFORT OF THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND OF COMMENT.
WELL COUNSEL, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS? YEAH, GO AHEAD, MICHELLE.
SO I'M GOING TO DO MY BEST NOT TO GET EMOTIONAL BECAUSE MY ANGER IS BOILING OVER THE LEVEL OF ARROGANCE THAT SUPERVISOR FLETCHER AND SUPERVISOR LAWSON REAMER IS ASTONISHING.
YOU'RE GOING TO GO IN TO THESE BUSINESSES AND TELL THEM THAT THEY HAVE TO PAY THEIR EMPLOYEES THIS AMOUNT.
I'M SORRY, ARE YOU WALKING INTO THEIR BUSINESSES AND LOOKING AT THEIR PROFIT AND LOSS STATEMENTS EVERY MONTH? ARE YOU WALKING INTO THOSE BUSINESSES AND IN THERE WORKING WITH THEM, GOING THROUGH THEIR EMPLOYEE REVIEWS EVERY MONTH, SHAME ON YOU AFTER THEY'RE TRYING TO PICK THEMSELVES UP AFTER THEIR SHUTDOWN, AFTER COVID RAVAGED OUR COMMUNITIES.
MY TEETH THOUGH, MY GRANDMOTHER IMMIGRATED HERE TO THE UNITED STATES.
SHE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST LATINA BUSINESS OWNERS IN CHICAGO.
IF SHE WERE TO MOVE HERE NOW WITH THE KIND OF POLICIES OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND SUPERVISOR FLETCHER, LAWSON, REAMER, OR TRYING TO PASS, SHE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO OPEN UP HER RESTAURANT.
EL HARDEEN, IT'S STILL OPEN RIGHT NOW IN CHICAGO.
YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THOSE BUSINESS OWNERS AND THEIR EMPLOYEES IN THE FACE AND TELL THEM I'M GOING TO PASS THIS ORDINANCE.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO BE OUT OF THE JOB, HUNDREDS OF BUSINESSES AND THOUSANDS OF EMPLOYEES, SHAME ON YOU AND HOW DARE YOU.
I, AND, AND I'M, I'M NOT, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM AN INCH.
I'M NOT LOOKING FOR A, A, UH, UM, AN EXEMPTION FOR AIRPORT PROPERTIES.
I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THEM AN INCH.
THIS IS I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO BUSINESS OWNERS AND LANDOWNERS, AND THERE THEY ARE BESIDE THEMSELVES.
LIKE I SAID, ONE OF MY FORMER EMPLOYERS IS THERE AND THEY'RE EMPLOYING HARDWORKING, UH, UH, HISPANIC FAMILIES.
WE I'VE SPOKE WITH THE CAMBODIANS MIDDLE EASTERN, UH, BUSINESSES THAT ARE THERE.
PEOPLE THAT ARE, HAVE, HAVE ESCAPED, TERRIBLE REGIMES THAT COME WITH BARELY ANY MONEY IN THEIR POCKETS.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO SHUT THEM.
YOU'RE GOING TO SHUT THEM DOWN.
THIS POLICY WILL SHUT THEM DOWN.
IT WILL MOVE THEM OUT OF THE CITY AND IT WILL COST, COST PEOPLE THEIR ENTIRE LIFE.
I REALLY, REALLY HOPE THAT THEY SEE HOW THIS IS GOING TO AFFECT BUSINESSES AND THE PEOPLE AND THE COMMUNITIES OF COLOR THAT THEY SAY THEY WANT TO HELP OUT.
THEY SAY THEY WANT TO HELP IT, BUT THEY'RE ACTIVELY WORKING AGAINST THEM WITH THIS POLICY.
I, I REALLY HOPE THAT THIS IS A MISSTEP.
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TO KNOW THAT THIS IS A MISSTEP, BUT THE IMPACT THAT THIS IS GOING TO HAVE ON ALCOHOL WILL BE DECADES.AND YOU, YOU, YOU TOO, ON THE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ARE PERMANENTLY PUSHING PEOPLE INTO POVERTY.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE DOING WELL SAID.
ONE QUESTION BEFORE I MAKE A COMMENT ON PREVAILING WAGE, THERE'S THE WAGE PART.
AND THEN THERE'S A SECOND PART FOR A VACATION HEALTH, SICK PENSION TRAINING.
DO YOU HAVE TO ADD THOSE TWO TOGETHER TO WHAT MUST BE PAID? SO AT THE END, I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT THAT TABLE, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU YOU'VE LOOKED AT THAT TABLE ON THE WEBSITE, SO THAT WOULD BE THE BIRD, THE FULLY BURDENED COSTS.
NOW WHAT, I DON'T KNOW WHEN I, WHEN I SAID THE 30%, I WAS NOT INCLUDING THE BURDEN COST, I ALWAYS JUST, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE HOURLY RATE.
SO I'M ASSUMING THERE'S A BURDEN COST FOR ANY EMPLOYEE, RIGHT? BUT WHEN YOU ADD ADDITIONAL VACATION TIME AND OTHER SICK LEAVE REQUIREMENTS, THEN THAT BURDEN RATE JUST GETS BIGGER AND BIGGER AND BIGGER.
SO DOES AN EMPLOYER HAVE TO PAY THE BURDENED RATE OR THE, WELL, THEY HAVE TO PAY THE, THEY HAVE TO PAY THE BURDEN RATE.
THEY HAVE TO PAY WHAT'S REQUIRED AS A, AS A PREVAILING WAGE JOB.
EVEN IF THOSE BENEFITS COST THEM LESS, THAT'S CORRECT THE COMPANY, UNLESS THEY STILL HAVE TO PAY THE PREMIUM SET BY THE DEPARTMENT ABOUT TRIBULATIONS.
OKAY, I'M GOING TO COME BACK TO THAT IN A SECOND.
AMAZON PULLED OUT OF THIS BECAUSE OF THE UNCERTAINTY AND IMPACT OF THIS PROPOSED ORDINANCE.
I THINK THE AUTHOR SHOULD HAVE CALLED THIS THE NO WORK FOR FAMILIES ORDINANCE.
UM, SINCE 2018, AMAZON'S PAID MORE THAN $15 AN HOUR NOW IN ALCOHOL.
AND ACCORDING TO THE 2019 CENSUS, THE PARTIAL YEAR CENSUS, THE POVERTY RATE IN ALCOHOL WAS 19.3%.
19.3% OF ALCOHOL AND RESIDENTS LIVED BELOW THE FEDERAL POVERTY RATE, WHICH FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR WAS $26,338.
THAT'S AT 13 BUCKS AN HOUR FOR A FAMILY OF FOUR.
SO IF YOU GOT A JOB AT AMAZON WORKING 2000 HOURS A YEAR FULL TIME, THAT ONE JOB WOULD HAVE PULLED YOU OUT OF POVERTY, BUT THIS IS THE NO WORK FOR FAMILIES ORDINANCE.
LET'S TALK ABOUT TAYLOR GUITARS.
THEY ADDED 178 JOBS LAST YEAR.
UH, WE HAVE A LETTER FROM THEIR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER THAT ABOUT HALF OF THEIR STAFF HAS ALREADY PEOPLE OF COLOR.
SO IF THEY HAVE ANY OPENING IN THEIR LEASE NOW TO FOLLOW COUNTY REGULATIONS, AND IF THEY GOT TO START TOMORROW, BECAUSE THAT'S A NEW REGULATION, THAT'S IN THERE, AT LEAST THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW.
THEY GOT TO START PAYING THESE PREVAILING RATES RATES.
WELL, LET'S TAKE, FOR EXAMPLE, A CARPENTER.
YOU COULD IMAGINE SOMEBODY ARGUING TAYLOR GUITARS SHOULD BE CONSIDERING THOSE PEOPLE, CARPENTERS, NOTHING AGAINST CARPENTERS PER SE.
THE BURDENED PREVAILING WAGE RATE FOR CARPENTERS.
ACCORDING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRIAL RELATIONS IS $54 59 CENTS.
IF I'M LOOKING AT THE PNL OF TAYLOR GUITARS AND I HAVE A PLANT INTO KATI MEXICO, I MAY CLOSE THIS ONE AND MOVE THEM TO TAKATI MEXICO.
IF I'M FORCED TO PAY $54 AND 59 CENTS PER HOUR, BECAUSE SOMEBODY AT THE COUNTY SAID, THAT'S FAIR.
SO I THINK THE AMAZON THING IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF MAN.
YOU'RE JUST, YOU'RE JUST TOOK AWAY JOBS FROM PEOPLE TRYING TO GET A LEG UP.
IT'S NOT FAIR TO TELL TAYLOR, YOU GOT TO PAY THEM 54 BUCKS AN HOUR WHEN YOU RENEW OR, OR IF THERE'S AN OPENING IN YOUR LEASE NOW GET OUT OF PEOPLE'S BUSINESS.
AS I SAID BEFORE, UM, I DON'T REALLY THINK THIS IS ABOUT WAGES.
I THINK THIS IS A DIRECT ATTACK ON THE CITY OF ALCOHOL, BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE OUR POLITICS AND THEY'RE TRYING TO STICK IN THEIR EYE AND YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT'S FINE.
CALL ME OUT ALL DAY LONG, TRASH ME ON TV AND RADIO ALL DAY LONG.
BUT WHEN WE TAKE THE OATH OF OFFICE TO BECOME A RIGHT TO OFFICIALS, OUR OATH TRANSCENDS HOW WE FEEL ABOUT THINGS.
OUR JOB IS TO TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE THAT REPRESENT IT, THAT WE REPRESENT OUR JOB IS TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE.
AND I'M SAYING RIGHT NOW THAT YOU HAVE DONE AN EVIL THING.
WHEN I SAY YOU, I MEAN, TEAR LOSS, REAMER, AND NATHAN FLETCHER, YOU WERE DOING SOMETHING THAT IS PURELY EVIL AND I'M CALLING YOU OUT.
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CHALLENGING EITHER ONE OF YOU RIGHT NOW TO A DEBATE.LET'S LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.
ANYTIME YOU TO GO ON TV, YOU WANT TO GO ON RADIO, I'LL FIND A FORM, BUT DEBATE ME.
YOU ALL DO IT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU HAVE NOTHING TO STAND ON.
YOU KNOW, THAT NOT BECAUSE I'M A BETTER DEBATER THAN YOU, BUT BECAUSE I HAVE THE FACTS ON MY SIDE THAT I WILL DESTROY YOU, BUT I'M PUTTING IT OUT THERE ANYWAY.
AND I'M GUESSING THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE COURAGE TO DO IT.
I GUESS WE'RE, UM, WE, WE STOPPED THE VOTE EVEN THOUGH IT'S, UH, I THINK IT'S KIND OF PERFUNCTORY AT THIS POINT.
UM, WOULD SOMEBODY LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? YEAH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTS THE NEXT RESOLUTION ORDER OPPOSING THE PROPOSED SAN DIEGO COUNTY.
UH, NO WORK FOR FAMILIES ORDINANCE SECOND, PLEASE VOTE MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT, YOU KNOW, AS A GENTLEMEN, UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING AND BE INVOLVED IN THIS.
I THINK WE'LL TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK AND WE'LL COME BACK AND FINISH THE MORE MUNDANE, UH, BUSINESS THAT WE HAVE TO DO TODAY.
[12. Establishment of Policy of Voluntary Proof of Residency for Mayor and City Council Member Candidates RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council adopts the next Resolution, in order, to establish a policy of voluntary disclosure of proof of residency for candidates seeking to hold the offices of Mayor and Council Member.]
REPORT ITEM 12 IS A POLICY FOR PROOF OF RESIDENCY FOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS.AND I LIKE TO ASK STAFF TO PLEASE INTRODUCE THIS ITEM.
THANK YOU, MAYOR WELLS AND MEMBERS OF CITY COUNCIL.
IF YOU'LL RECALL, I'M THE PERSON WHO WAS, UH, PROVIDED WITH, ALONG WITH THE CITY CLERK, WITH THE TASK OF TRYING TO DEVELOP A POLICY FOR RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS AS ONE OF THE COUNCILS, UH, PRIORITIES THAT WERE DEVELOPED, UH, BACK EARLIER THIS YEAR.
UM, IF YOU ALSO RECALL BACK IN JUNE, WE BROUGHT TO YOU AN ANALYSIS OF WHAT THAT POLICY MIGHT BE, WHETHER WE ADOPT AN ORDINANCE WHERE THERE, WHAT WE CAN DO AND CANNOT DO WITH RESPECT TO, UH, ELECTIONS, LAWS AND QUALIFICATIONS OF, OF CANDIDATES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UM, JUST AS A QUICK BACKGROUND, WE POINTED OUT AT THAT TIME IN JUNE, THAT WHILE OUR CHARTER, UH, SPEAKS TO WHAT IS REQUIRED, AS FAR AS, UH, THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR A CANDIDATE FOR MAYOR OR CITY COUNCIL, THE, UH, REAL ISSUE HAS BECOME WHAT IS, UH, WHAT IS A RESIDENT FOR PURPOSES OF ELECTION PURPOSES.
AND I WENT THROUGH QUITE A BIT OF BACKGROUND IN THAT REPORT, AS WELL AS VERBALLY AND GIVING YOU THE ORAL REPORT ON IT TO POINT OUT THAT REALLY WHAT THE COURTS LOOK AT, LOOK AT NOW, AS WELL AS THE ELECTIONS CODE IS A DOMICILE.
YOU COULD HAVE A NUMBER OF RESIDENCES, BUT YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE DOMICILE AS A CANDIDATE.
SO WITH THAT IN MIND, UH, WE WENT BACK AND WE DEVELOPED AT THAT TIME, THE COUNCIL COUNCIL AGREED THAT THE APPROACH OUGHT TO BE BY RESOLUTION AND IT OUGHT TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S VOLUNTARY SO THAT IT WAS NOT MANDATORY.
SO IT COULDN'T BE, UH, BECOME A PROBLEM IF SOMEBODY CHALLENGED IT IN THE SENSE OF BECOMING, UH, UH, ELECTIONS BEING OCCUPIED BY, BY THE STATE LEGISLATION.
SO WITH THAT IN MIND, WE, WE DEVELOPED A RESOLUTION THAT'S ATTACHED.
IT PROVIDES THE POLICY WITH DEFINITIONS.
WE HOPE THAT, UH, MEET ALL OF THE QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT ARISE IN THIS POLICY.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION ATTACHED, IT GIVES RECOMMENDATIONS AS TO WHAT A VOLUNTARY DISCLOSURE MIGHT BE.
WE COULD GET IN GREATER DETAIL.
BUT WHAT I FEAR IS THAT THESE DOCUMENTS ARE INTENDED TO BE AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC TO REVIEW.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD CERTAINLY REDACT CERTAIN PERSONAL IDENTIFYING INFORMATION FOR PURPOSES OF AVOIDING IDENTITY THEFT, UM, OR OTHER SORT OF PROBLEMS THAT ARISE WITH THOSE TYPES OF, UH, DISCLOSURES.
BUT, UH, THERE ARE SOME BASIC THINGS THAT WE BELIEVE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE, UH, VOLUNTARILY PROVIDED, INCLUDING DEEDS OF YOUR HOUSE.
IF YOU OWN YOUR HOME LEASE COPIES OF LEASES, IF YOU'RE A TENANT, UM, THE, UM, DRIVER'S LICENSE, UH, CERTIFICATIONS IN, UH, OR, OR COPY YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE THAT COULD BE, COULD BE LEFT ON FILE.
UM, AND, UH, UTILITY BILLS FOR EITHER THE CITY, SAN DIEGO GAS AND ELECTRIC OR CABLE COMPANIES THAT PROVE THAT YOU OBTAIN THE SERVICE AT THAT HOUSE, UH, THINGS THAT WOULD BE SORT OF INITIA OF DOMICILE IN THAT LOCATION THAT YOU'RE, UH, REGISTERED TO VOTE AT.
REMEMBER THAT THE CITY CLERK WILL ONLY BE LOOKING AT, UH, WHETHER THAT PERSON'S REGISTERED TO VOTE IN THAT DISTRICT OR IN THE CITY, IN THE CASE OF THE MAYOR.
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AND SO WE WON'T BE HOLDING THAT, UH, MS. CORTEZ OR HER SUCCESSORS IN THE FUTURE TO ANY, UM, ALTHOUGH SHE SAYS SHE'S NOT RETURNING FOR 20 MORE YEARS, BUT TO, TO, UM, UH, ANY MORE ANALYSIS OTHER THAN TO CHECK WITH THE REGISTRAR VOTERS, WHETHER THAT PERSON IS IN FACT, A REGISTERED VOTER AT THAT LOCATION.SO WITH THAT, I'M OPEN TO QUESTIONS.
UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY AND, UM, TURN IT BACK OVER TO MARY WELLS.
SO LET'S SAY A CANDIDATE IS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, AND DOESN'T WISH TO DISCLOSE WHERE THEY LIVE.
UM, BUT DOESN'T WANT TO APPEAR TO THE PUBLIC THAT THEY'RE HIDING SOMETHING, IS THEIR OCCUPATION SHOWN OR IS THAT UP TO THEM OR, WELL, THEIR OCCUPATION WOULD BE SHOWN, UM, IN THAT SORT OF A SITUATION, UH, THE, UM, THE CITY CLERK WOULD NOT DISCLOSE THAT RESIDENCE ADDRESS FOR, FOR PUBLIC SAFETY PURPOSES.
SO THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHERE ONE WAY BE REDACTED EVEN IN THE DISCLOSURE, BECAUSE SOMEBODY COULD COME LOOK AT IT IN SOME SITUATIONS WE COULD CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, ALLOWING SOMEBODY TO REVIEW IT, IF THERE'S A CHALLENGE.
SO IF SOMEBODY WERE TO CHALLENGE IT, UM, UH, THEN MAYBE THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE DISCLOSED, BUT REMEMBER YOUR GRANT DEEDS ARE ALL PUBLIC RECORDS.
SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO LOOK UP THE NAME OF A PERSON, UM, AND SEE IN THE GRAND TOUR GRANTEE INDEX, THEY CAN SEE WHETHER THEY IN FACT OWN THAT HOUSE OR AT LEAST, UH, ACQUIRED TITLE TO THAT PROPERTY.
UH, IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S, IT'S GOING TO BE PRECISE UP TO THAT DATE.
THERE COULD BE A SALE OR TRANSFER OF THE PROPERTY, OR IT COULD BE IN THE NAME OF A TRUST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THE RESOLUTION MENTIONS THAT, THAT IF, IF IT'S HELD IN THE NAME OF A TRUST, THEN THAT NAME SHOULD BE SOMEHOW RECOGNIZABLE SO THAT IT CAN BE TIED TO THAT CANDIDATE IF NECESSARY.
I'M THINKING MORE OF THE PERSONAL SAFETY OF, OF SOMEBODY WHO WISHES TO BE A CANDIDATE, UM, THAT I SUPPOSE WHEN YOU DECIDE TO RUN FOR PUBLIC OFFICE, YOU GIVE UP SOME TRANSPARENCY OR CAN YOU GIVE UP 7 CENTS? PRIVACY IS WHAT YOU GIVE UP.
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, WE CAN APPROPRIATELY MITIGATE THAT.
SO IT'S NOT LOOKED AT AS A PENALTY UPON SOMEBODY THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO HIDE SOMETHING.
AND IN FACT, YOU KNOW, A CANDIDATE COULD CHOOSE NOT TO, FOR THOSE VERY REASONS SAY, I DECLINED TO PROVIDE YOU THAT INFORMATION.
AND THE REASON FOR GETTING IT AGAIN IS NOT FOR US TO DETERMINE QUALIFICATION.
IT'S JUST TO TRY TO AVOID THE CAMPAIGNING ISSUES THAT ARISE WHEN SOMEBODY CLAIMS EITHER CARPET BAGGING OR, OR, UH, OR S UH, UH, THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE BEING UNTRUTHFUL ABOUT WHERE THEIR DOMICILES REALLY IS ANYBODY ELSE.
SO I GUESS THIS SORT OF COMES DOWN TO, WE HAVE TO TRUST THE CANDIDATES THAT WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS TRUE, AND IT WOULD BE UP TO THEIR OPPONENTS OR THE OPPONENT'S SUPPORTERS TO MAYBE DIG UP THAT INFORMATION, IMPROVE IT, RIGHT.
THIS WOULD BE, IF, IF SOMEBODY IS GOING TO PARTICIPATE, THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE IT TO US WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD HAVE ABILITY AND ABILITY TO LOOK AT THAT INFORMATION.
UM, AGAIN, WE WOULD NOT RELEASE IT IN A SENSE OF, UH, UH, COPIES ARE ALLOWED COPIES OUT THAT PROVIDE, UM, THINGS LIKE, UH, SIGNATURES ON AFFIDAVITS, OR, UH, UH, PERHAPS THE RESIDENTIAL ADDRESS THAT, UM, GIVES THE NUMBER OF THE HOUSE.
UM, IT MIGHT BE SUFFICIENT TO JUST SIMPLY HAVE ON IT, MOLLISON AVENUE, NORTH MOLLISON AVENUE, AND, UH, THE PUBLIC WOULD HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY CLERK IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE CITY CLERK HAS RECEIVED FROM THE REGISTRAR OF THE VOTER.
WELL, HOPEFULLY WE DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS AGAIN.
THAT, UH, MR. FOLEY, YOU BROUGHT UP, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS W COULD IT BE APPROPRIATE? IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A CANDIDATE JUST TAKE OUT THE NUMBER PORTION OF THEIR ADDRESS, BUT HAVE ALL OTHER INFORMATION WITH REGARD TO THE STREET AND ZIP CODE AND CITY, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WAS THE PFIZER.
SO THE PUBLIC OR ANY PERSON TO THE PUBLIC THAT HAS NEFARIOUS MOTIVES WOULDN'T KNOW THE EXACT HOUSE, BUT JUST THE STREET.
WELL, THIS IS NOT INTENDED AT, THIS IS SOMETHING WE PUT ONLINE AND KEEP ONLINE FOR THE PUBLIC AND THE WORLD TO SEE.
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BUT IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO COME SEE IT, WE WOULD MAKE CERTAIN THAT THERE WOULD BE, UM, COMPLIANCE WITH THE PUBLIC RECORDS, ACT WITH RESPECT TO EXEMPTION, FOR PERSONAL INFORMATION, TO KEEP CALM AND CONFIDENCE.AND AGAIN, IF THE CITY CLERK HAS RECEIVED THIS AND IT MATCHES WHAT SHE OR HE HAS RECEIVED FROM THE REGISTRAR VOTERS, THERE'S A HIGH DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE THAT THINGS ARE, ARE, UH, CONSISTENT.
AND THAT THERE SHOULD NOT BE A QUESTION, BUT WE WOULD, THEN SHE WOULD THEN, UH, UH, REDACT ANY BEFORE IT'S.
SHE WOULD PROBABLY, WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A RE RETAIN THE ORIGINAL UNREDACTED, BUT ANYTHING THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, UH, OBSERVABLE TO THE PUBLIC AT THE REQUEST OF A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC.
WE WOULD REDACT THOSE NUMBERS PERHAPS AND KEEP IT CONFIDENTIAL.
I WILL SEE IF ANDREW RECEIVED ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ONE.
UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSIONS, SOME, I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION.
I MOVE THAT WE ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION AND THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF ALCOHOL IN CALIFORNIA, ADOPTING A POLICY FOR VOLUNTARY DISCLOSURE OF PROOF OF DOMICILE BY MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER CANDIDATES.
ONE SECOND, PLEASE VOTE MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
[13. Update on City Council Priority - Communications, Outreach, and Engagement RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council receives the report and provides staff feedback to incorporate into the City’s Outreach and Communications Plan.]
THE THIRD ADMINISTER REPORT, ITEM 30 IS AN UPDATE ON THE CITY'S OUTREACH AND COMMUNICATIONS PLAN.AND I'LL ASK OUR STAFF TO TELL US ABOUT THIS.
OKAY, GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE.
MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, TODAY I WILL PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON STAFF'S PROGRESS TOWARDS DEVELOPING, OR I SHOULD SAY REFINING THE CITY'S COMMUNICATION OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT PLAN.
IN MARCH, THE CITY COUNCIL HELD A WORKSHOP TO ESTABLISH FIVE PRIORITIES FOR THE COMING YEAR.
ONE OF THE FIVE PRIORITIES WAS REFINED, THE CITY'S COMMUNICATION OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT PLAN, DRESSING, WHAT STAKEHOLDERS WANT TO RECEIVE AND HOW TO BEST COMMUNICATE THAT INFORMATION.
UM, AS WELL AS STRATEGIES TO INCREASE OUR CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, TO ADDRESS THIS PRIORITY.
STAFF ANALYZED, UH, PAST AND CURRENT COMMUNICATION TRENDS, HOSTED SEVERAL FOCUS GROUPS AND CONDUCTED A COMMUNICATIONS AND OUTREACH SURVEY.
UH, THIS INFORMATION WILL BE COMBINED WITH YOUR FEEDBACK TONIGHT TO DEVELOP A FORMAL COMMUNICATIONS AND OUTREACH PLAN.
AS A BROAD OVERVIEW, WE COMMUNICATE WITH PROPERTY OWNERS, RESIDENTS, AND BUSINESSES ABOUT A WIDE RANGE OF TOPICS, INCLUDING COMMUNITY EVENTS, RECREATION CLASSES, AND PROGRAMS, PARKS, CITY PROJECTS, UH, PRIVATE DEVELOPMENTS, VOLUNTEER OPPORTUNITIES, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND CRIME PREVENTION AND DISASTER PREPAREDNESS.
WE COMMUNICATE THIS INFORMATION WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS WHERE A NUMBER OF COMMUNICATION OUTLETS, INCLUDING SOCIAL MEDIA MAILINGS WEBSITE, UM, OUR CITY WEBSITE, THE CITY'S NEW PHONE APP, EMAIL NOTIFICATIONS, PRESS RELEASES, AND THE BI-ANNUAL GATEWAY MAGAZINE HERE.
THIS IS OUR MOST RECENT GATEWAY PUBLICATION AND A, A PHOTO OR A SCREENSHOT.
I SHOULD SAY, OF OUR CITY APP.
THE CITY ALSO PROVIDES, UH, PROVIDES VOLUNTEER IMMERSION PROGRAMS AIMED TO ENGAGE RESIDENTS AND ALL AGES AND INTERESTS.
THESE PROGRAMS INCLUDE THE RESERVE FIREFIGHTER PROGRAM, FIRE EXPLORER PROGRAM, FIRE STATION, OPEN HOUSE, FIRE STATION TOURS, AND CLASSROOM VISITS.
UM, SIMILARLY, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS PROGRAMS SUCH AS THE RESERVE POLICE OFFICER PROGRAM, TEEN ACADEMY, CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY RESERVE, SENIOR VOLUNTEER, UM, UH, PROGRAM THAT CADET PROGRAM POLICE STATION TOURS AND CLASSROOM VISITS.
IN ADDITION, RESIDENTS CAN ENGAGE, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENT THROUGH CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS, PLANNING, COMMISSION MEETINGS, PROJECT, OR TOWN HALL MEETINGS, AND OUR TEEN COALITION MEETINGS.
ONE OF THE UNIQUE WAYS AND MORE RECENT DEMONSTRATIONS OF HOW WE KIND OF ENGAGED OUR RESIDENTS IS THROUGH OUR MOBILE RECREATION PROGRAM DURING THE EARLIEST STAGES OF THE PANDEMIC, UM, THE CITY TO PLAY THE REC SQUAD TO BRING PARK ACTIVITIES INTO NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, DURING THE STAY AT HOME ORDERS, THE REC SQUAD GAVE AWAY NEARLY 1000 ITEMS DURING THE PANDEMIC, INCLUDING SWAG BAGS, YOGA MATS, FITNESS DICE, AND COLORING BOOKS.
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DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THE CITY'S TRENDING IN ITS COMMUNICATION EFFORTS.STAFF EVALUATED THE CITY'S OUTREACH METRICS BETWEEN 2018 AND 2020.
THE EVALUATION SHOWED THAT THE CITY'S ONGOING COMMUNICATION EFFORTS HAVE INCREASED OVER THE THREE-YEAR PERIOD.
THIS INCLUDES A 76% INCREASE AND SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS.
THAT'S AN INCREASE FROM 2.4 TO 4.3 POSTS A DAY.
UM, A 27% INCREASE IN WEBSITE TRAFFIC, A 183% INCREASE AND NEWS RELEASES AND A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF VIDEOS CREATED FROM THREE TO 107, AND, UH, AN INCREASE IN TOWN HALL AND PROJECT MEETINGS FROM ONE MEETING IN 2018 TO SEVEN MEETINGS IN 2017, THE ASSESSMENT ALSO REVEALED SOME DOWNWARD TRENDS.
UM, I THINK MUCH OF THIS PANDEMIC RELATED, UH, WE SAW A 67% DECREASE IN, UH, VOLUNTEER PROGRAMS AND A 27% DECREASE IN FIRE AND PD TOURS AND SCHOOL VISITS.
IN ADDITION, WE SAW OUR FIRE STATION OPEN HOUSE, UH, GOT CANCELED, UM, AS MANY OF OUR OTHER COMMUNITY EVENTS AFTER ANALYZING OUR PAST AND CURRENT TRENDS, UH, WE HOSTED SIX FOCUS GROUPS TO GATHER FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY.
WE ASKED EACH FOCUS GROUP HOW AND WHAT OUR CONSTITUENTS WANT TO HEAR FROM THE CITY AND AT WHAT TYPES OF OUTREACH PROGRAMS OR EVENTS MIGHT BE OF INTEREST TO THEM.
UH, THE FOCUS GROUPS WAS A PRETTY BROAD SPECTRUM OF OUR COMMUNITY.
WE, UH, INCLUDED ARABIC SPEAKING
UH, WE'RE ALL FOCUS GROUPS FOR US.
WE RECEIVED A WEALTH OF INFORMATION FROM THESE GROUPS, UH, INCLUDING SOME SPECIFICS.
ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT WE HEARD FROM SEVERAL OF OUR FOCUS GROUPS WAS TO TRANSLATE MATERIALS.
UM, I'VE INCLUDED A SAMPLE OF OUR REDISTRICTING FLYER, WHICH YOU GUYS HAVE LIKELY ALL SEEN, UH, WHICH WAS TRANSLATED INTO VARIOUS LANGUAGES, INCLUDING ARABIC.
UM, ANOTHER KEY THEME THROUGHOUT OUR FOCUS GROUPS WAS TO PARTNER WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS AS SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE AN ESTABLISHED RELATIONSHIP WITH A LOT OF OUR, UM, OUR, OUR RESIDENTS, OUR IMMIGRANT COMMUNITY, UM, FRANKLY, A RELATIONSHIP THAT WE DON'T HAVE YET.
UM, ANOTHER RECOMMENDATION WAS TO DEVELOP A WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OKLAHOMA BUSINESS THEME, EMAIL, UM, OR WEEKLY MONTHLY NEWSLETTER, UH, TO UPDATE THE WEBSITE MORE REGULARLY, UM, TO CONSIDER USING PHONE OR TEXT NOTIFICATIONS, TO ENGAGE WITH OUR SENIORS AND REGULAR AND FREQUENT AND CONSISTENT COMMUNICATION.
SO, IN ADDITION TO, IN ADDITION, THERE ARE A FEW OUTREACH EVENTS, SUGGESTIONS.
A ZOOM TOWN HALL MEETINGS, UM, WAS KIND OF CONSISTENT.
MANY OF OUR FOCUS GROUPS ASKED FOR STUFF LIKE THIS, UM, TO VISIT THE COUNTY IN CHURCHES.
YOU CAN IMAGINE WHICH FOCUS GROUP THAT CAME FROM, AND THEN, UM, COFFEE WITH THE MAYOR AND A SENIOR ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
UH, THE LATTER TWO SUGGESTED BY OUR SENIORS SERVICE PROVIDERS.
WE ALSO USED IN ONLINE SURVEY TO GATHER ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK IN ALL.
UM, THE MAJOR TAKEAWAYS FOR THE SURVEY WERE TO POST NEWS STORIES TO THE CITY'S WEBSITE, MORE FREQUENTLY, UH, PROMOTE THE CITY APP.
UH, WE SAW THAT VERY FEW PEOPLE THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE SURVEY KNEW ABOUT THE APP, UM, TO CONSIDER USING NEXT DOOR FOR PUBLIC SAFETY UPDATES, UH, SHARING MORE ABOUT CITY PROJECTS.
TYPICALLY I SEE, UM, LIKE RECREATION AND PUBLIC SAFETY KIND OF COMPETING FOR THE TOP SPOT AND ACTUALLY CITY PROJECTS WAS EQUALLY AS IMPORTANT TO OUR RESIDENTS.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO TALK MORE ABOUT, UM, SHARING OR HOSTING TOWN HALL MEETINGS AND CITY PROJECT MEETINGS, UM, AND THEN FINALLY TO POST AND SHARE OUR NEWS MORE CONSISTENTLY.
SO I'VE JUST ON A FREQUENCY BASIS BASIS.
SO OVERALL BASED ON OUR ASSESSMENT, THE CITY HAS CONSIDERABLY INCREASED THE FREQUENCY OF OUR COMMUNICATIONS SINCE 2018.
UM, BUT I THINK TO, IN ORDER TO DEVELOP A PLAN, UH, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE COMMUNITY, AND THEN LOOK TO YOU GUYS FOR YOUR FEEDBACK AND USE THAT TO ULTIMATELY PUT TOGETHER A PLAN.
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DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE DOWNLOADED THE PHONE APP? THAT ONE TIME, IT WAS LIKE 700 TOP OF MY HEAD.I DO HAVE IT HERE, BUT IN MS. DIAZ IS LOOKING IT UP AS WE SPEAK, MY REPORT SAYS 1100, BUT I THINK IT'S PROBABLY HIGHER BY NOW.
SO WE HAVE MORE THAN DOUBLED, UM, IN THE LAST, WHAT ARE WE AT NINE MONTHS? BECAUSE I THINK WE HAD LIKE 700 SOMETHING WHEN I CAME ON BOARD AND, AND NOW WE'RE MORE THAN DOUBLE.
UM, I TRY AND PROMOTE THAT ALL THE TIME WHEN I'M ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND I'M INTERACTING WITH CONSTITUENTS AND THEY'RE GOING, HOW DO I DO THIS? AND HOW DO WE DO THAT? DOWNLOAD THE PHONE APP, DOWNLOAD THE PHONE APP, MAKE YOUR REPORT, WHETHER IT'S ON SPEEDING OR WHETHER IT'S HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS OR GRAFFITI OR WHATEVER, AND GET THE REPORTS.
AND I MEAN, I USE IT QUITE FREQUENTLY.
MY HUSBAND USES IT FREQUENTLY.
I TRY TO ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO USE IT BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD WAY TO ONE TRACK THE REPORTING THAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, I DO WANT TO TELL YOU THAT I ENJOYED THE, UM, THE POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA THAT FRANK'S DEPARTMENT DOES.
AND, UM, SOME OF THE OTHER, UM, DEPARTMENTS DO POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
I FORWARD THOSE ONTO MY PAGE AND, UM, I THINK YOU GUYS DO A REALLY GOOD JOB IN TRYING TO GET THAT OUT AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALWAYS DO BETTER.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, BUT WE CAN ALWAYS DO BETTER.
UM, SO THANK YOU, ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH.
UM, I LOVE THE IDEA OF THE UPDATES ON CITY PROJECTS.
THAT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE TOP QUESTIONS I GET FROM THE PUBLIC.
SO YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT AND THEN, UM, CONTINUING THE PROGRAM TO GET THE HELICOPTER ASTRO, UM, MESSAGES ON, INTO TEXT ON TWITTER THAT HAS BEEN, UM, THE PUBLIC HAS REALLY LIKED THAT PIECE OF INFORMATION BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO UNDERSTAND THE HELICOPTER, UM, ESPECIALLY THEY'RE INDOORS.
THEY DON'T WANT TO GO OUTSIDE.
UM, AND THEN ALSO TO KIND OF COMBAT WRONG INFORMATION THAT CAN SPREAD LIKE WILDFIRE ON SOCIAL MEDIA SO QUICKLY, YOU KNOW, IT'S AMAZING HOW MANY RUMORS CAN FLY ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
I KNOW IT'S HARD TO COMPREHEND THAT, BUT, UM, YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, IT'S, IT'S GOOD FOR US TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF THOSE MESSAGES TO GET GOOD, RELIABLE INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
OBVIOUSLY I UNDERSTAND PDS, YOU KNOW, REAL TIME THEY GOT BIGGER FISH TO FRY, BUT IF WE CAN KEEP THAT PROGRAM GOING TO BE HUGE.
UH, I THINK THE NEXT DOOR APP IS HUGE.
ANYTIME THAT I POST SOMETHING ON FACEBOOK, I MIGHT GET 30 RESPONSES WHEN I POSTED IT ON NEXT DOOR.
IT CAN GET UP TO 260 RESPONSES.
I BELIEVE THE CITY HAS THE ABILITY TO POST, BUT NOT VIEW AND RESPOND.
SO EVEN IF IT'S A POST, IT'S JUST WEIRD HOW THIS NEXT DOOR APP IS LIKE, THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE GO TO TALK AND LOOK, AND KIND OF THING.
THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT IS ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO PRESS RELEASES FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT HELPS CALM A COMMUNITY WHEN POLICE SOLVE A CRIME SUBSTANTIAL CRIMES.
THERE'S NOT SOMEBODY STILL OUT THERE AND WE'RE GOOD.
SO THAT'S A, A VALUABLE TOPIC, UH, THINGS, WHAT I WANT TO KNOW, THE BUILDING PROJECTS AND THE OTHER CITY PROJECTS, PEOPLE LOVE THAT STUFF.
I LIVE IN A VIBRANT CITY, SO I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO SEE US POST ON NEXT DOOR.
I THINK IT'S THE ONLY MISSING PIECE TO IT AS A VERY COMPREHENSIVE AND GREAT EFFORT.
UH, I'LL JUST KIND OF, WE, WE, UM, WE ARE A LITTLE, I'LL JUST ADMIT WE'RE A LITTLE FEARFUL ABOUT NEXT DOOR.
UM, PARTLY BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT UNKNOWN TO US AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT PANDORA'S BOX WILL OPEN.
UH, WE ARE, WE'RE AT A POINT RIGHT NOW WHERE WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO DO PROBABLY MORE VIDEO CONTENT.
I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY IMPORTANT.
I REALLY LIKED THE IDEA OF POSTING MORE ABOUT THE PROJECTS.
WE DO A PROJECT, A MONTHLY PROJECT MEMO TO THE COUNCIL.
WE COULD JUST TAKE A PROJECT A WEEK AND JUST POST SOMETHING ON ALL OF OUR SOCIAL MEDIA ABOUT THAT.
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AS WE DEVELOP THIS PLAN, WE'LL, WE'LL IMPLEMENT OR ADDRESS THE NEXT DOOR AS PART OF THAT.UM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE JUST TELL YOU AS PART OF THE PLAN, WE'RE KIND OF MAXING OUT OUR CURRENT STAFFING CAPACITY.
AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME MODELS TO AUGMENT WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'RE, I THINK WE MAY BE HITTING A SATURATION POINT OF WHAT WE CAN DO, BUT, BUT I THINK THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE CAN TAKE FOR YOUR FEEDBACK TODAY AND THEN COME BACK WITH A REALLY GOOD PLAN.
YOU CAN TEST THOSE THAT IF YOU HAVE ONE PERSON TO DO IT, OKAY, WE'LL PULL BACK ON THIS SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNEL BECAUSE IT'S NOT GETTING MUCH ENGAGEMENT AND TRYING THIS ONE TO THE NEXT DOOR THING.
IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IT, THEN TRY WITH SOME VERY BENIGN CONTENT LIKE SUMMER, FRIDAY NIGHT CONCERTS WHO'S PLAYING THIS FRIDAY.
ANGELA, THE RECEIPT RECEIVE AN ESP CARDS AND SIGN NO SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS ITEM, SIR.
NO MOTION IS EED FOR THIS ITEM.
SO LET'S JUST UPDATE THE NEXT ADMINISTER
[14. Flashing Signs and Light Ropes RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council: Discusses the subject matter in the report; and Accepts the information provided in the report and takes no further action; or Directs the Planning Commission to prepare amendments to Title 17 of the El Cajon Municipal Code; or Provides alternative policy direction to staff.]
PORT UNIMPORTANT TO YOU IS REGARDING THE CITY OF SIGN ORDINANCE.I'LL ASK STAFF TO PLEASE INTRODUCE THIS ITEM.
I TONY, I MISS THE MAYOR COUNCIL, UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, UM, BUILDING ON THE THEME OF CITY COUNCIL PRIORITY PROJECTS.
UM, BACK IN MARCH, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL HAD DIRECTED STAFF TO REVIEW THE CITY SIGNED ORDINANCE AND REPORT HOW FLASHING SIGNS AND LIGHT ROPES IN WINDOWS ARE REG REGULATED.
AND THE STAFF CAME BACK ON APRIL 27TH, UM, AND PRESENTED THE CITY COUNCIL WITH, UM, WITH HOW THE SIGN ORDINANCE ADDRESSES FLASHING SIGNS, WHICH ARE PROHIBITED IN THE CITY AND LIGHT ROPES, WHICH IS SILENT.
IT DOESN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY ANYTHING ABOUT LIGHT ROPES, UM, FLASHING SIGNS, UM, HOWEVER, AND LIGHT ROPES ARE ALLOWED IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA UNDER THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN.
SO THE CITY COUNCIL IN 2012, THE THEN CITY COUNCIL DID MAKE AN EXCEPTION AND DETERMINED THAT, THAT THOSE TYPES OF SIGNS, ATTENTION GETTING DEVICES, UM, WERE ALLOWED IN THE DOWNTOWN.
UM, AT THIS MEETING, THE CITY COUNCIL DID ASK FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UM, ABOUT THE, UM, ABOUT LIGHT ROPES AND A FLASHING SIGNS THAT ARE IN THE CITY.
UM, STAFF DID DO SOME RESEARCH FOUND A LITTLE WAY IN THE WAY OF NON-INDUSTRY STUDIES OR MUNICIPAL REGULATIONS THAT PERTAIN TO LIGHT BRIGHTNESS.
I BELIEVE THAT COUNCIL WAS INTERESTED IN HOW YOU REGULATE, UM, THE BRIGHTNESS OF LIGHTS, AS WELL AS COLOR.
THE STAFF ALSO REACHED OUT TO THE PRE-BID AND THE CHAMBER TO GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM THOSE TWO ORGANIZATIONS.
UM, THE PRE-BID INDICATED THAT THEY DID NOT SEE THAT THESE LIGHTS WERE A PROBLEM.
UM, AND THEY INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE CODE REMAIN AS IS HOWEVER, THE CHAMBER, UM, AFTER TWO ATTEMPTS FOR INPUT DID NOT RESPOND TO STAFF'S REQUESTS.
SO STAFF ALSO CANVAS THE CITY, UM, UM, IN SEPTEMBER 4TH, UH, WE THOUGHT LABOR DAY, WEEKEND, EVENING, SATURDAY NIGHT WOULD BE A GOOD NIGHT TO GO OUT AND CANVAS THE COMMERCIAL AREAS AND GET A COUNT OF HOW MANY BUSINESSES IN THE CITY IN THE COMMERCIAL AREAS HAD LIGHT ROPES.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS TABLE HERE ON ALCOHOL WILL ALCOHOL AND BOULEVARD, THERE WAS FOUR EAST MAIN STREET MINUS THE DOWNTOWN.
THERE WERE 11 BUSINESSES WITH LIGHT ROPES.
HOW MS. SHAW NORTH SECOND STREET, UM, UH, STAFF FOUND FOUR AND THEN THE BROADWAY FLETCHER PARKWAY CORRIDOR HAD 10.
SO THAT'S FROM BROADWAY AT, UH, MAIN WERE A ALCOHOLIC.
FORD IS ALL THE WAY TO FLETCHER PARKWAY, NAVAJO COMMERCIAL SHOPPING DISTRICT.
AND THERE WERE, THERE WERE 10 THERE IN THE DOWNTOWN WHERE THEY'RE ALLOWED, THERE WERE 11.
SO IN TOTAL, THERE WERE 40 IDENTIFIED ON SEPTEMBER 4TH IN THE EVENING HOURS, WHICH I DID NOT ADD TO THE TABLE HERE.
UM, LAST SATURDAY NIGHT, STAFF WENT OUT TO FIND OUT HOW MANY BLINKING SIGNS, UM, THAT WE HAVE, UM, LIKE THE FLASHING OPEN SIGNS ON BUSINESSES THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
AND THERE ARE 25 OF THOSE AND THOSE BECAUSE THEY ARE PROHIBITED BY THE ORDINANCE ARE UNDER CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION.
SO WITH THIS INFORMATION WE HAD PRESENTED IN THE STAFF REPORT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE COUNCIL, IF THEY WISH TO MOVE FORWARD ON ANY ACTION.
AND SO THE THREE ALTERNATIVES THAT WERE PRESENTED AS TO DO NOTHING, LEAVE THE CODE THE WAY IT IS.
STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO ADDRESS BLINKING AND FLASHING SIGNS OUTSIDE OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA
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AS CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION, UH, LIGHT ROPES WILL JUST BE LEFT.UM, THE CITY COUNCIL CAN INITIATE A SIGN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT.
THEY CAN DIRECT A PLANNING COMMISSION TO LOOK INTO THIS AND THEY CAN ASK THEM TO DEFINE LIGHT ROPES, PROHIBIT AS WINDOW SIGNS, IF THAT'S THE COUNCIL'S DESIRE.
UM, AS WELL AS PROHIBIT LIGHT ROPES AS BUILDING, AS BUILDING TRIM OR THE CITY COUNCIL CAN PROVIDE ALTERNATIVE DIRECTION TO THE STAFF.
AND THAT CAN ALSO BE PASSED ON TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
IF THE COUNCIL WISHES THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO TAKE UP THIS, THIS ISSUE AND STAFF IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT THE COUNCIL MIGHT HAVE.
SO I'M READING, I'M READING HERE THAT WE NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THE DIFFERENT TIMES A YEAR.
UM, TYPICALLY FOR THANKSGIVING THROUGH THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, YOU HAVE CHRISTMAS AND KWANZA AND LIKE, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU STATED HERE, RAMADAN HAPPENS AT ANOTHER TIME OF YEAR.
I PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE HAVING ALL OF THE ROPE LIGHTS AND MAKING IT LOOK LIKE VEGAS WHEN WE GO DOWN THE STREET, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO, UM, THEY WANT TO ATTRACT CUSTOMERS AND, UH, THAT'S ONE WAY TO DO IT.
I GUESS MY ONLY CONCERN IS IS THAT YES, WE COULD LEAVE IT ALONE.
DID YOU, LET ME ASK YOU THIS, DID YOU TALK TO BUSINESS OWNERS AND ASK THEM HOW THEY FELT ABOUT MAYBE NOT HAVING THE ABILITY TO PUT UP ROPE LIGHTS AND LIKE FLASHING SIGNS, NOT DIRECTLY SPEAK WITH, UH, BUSINESS OWNERS.
WE HAD HOPED THAT THE BUSINESS OWNER ORGANIZATIONS AS THESE COUNTER CHAMBER AND P BID WOULD PROVIDE THE FEEDBACK THAT'S RIGHT.
SO I GUESS MY, IN MY OPINION, I DON'T WANT TO BE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, MANDATE THINGS ON BUSINESSES THAT ARE JUST TRIVIAL IN THE LARGE SCHEME OF THINGS.
ON THE OTHER HAND, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOME CONSISTENCY.
UM, I DON'T KNOW, I'M GOING TO DEFER TO YOU GUYS AND YOU'LL MAKE A BETTER DECISION, BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
I JUST, I JUST DON'T WANT US TO TURN INTO, YOU KNOW, THE MILE OF CARS AND FLUSHING LIGHTS AND COME HERE, COME HERE AND, AND, AND HAVING LIGHTS GO AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE HOUSE, YOU KNOW, UP ON THE TOP OF THE, UH, WHERE THE GUTTERS ARE, WHERE DO YOU CALL THAT? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? THEY LOOK LIKE THE ILLEGAL DISPENSARIES, YOU KNOW, SO I DON'T KNOW.
I GUESS IT'S JUST AN IMAGE THING.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSISTENCY, BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, UH, EITHER TONY OR THE CITY MANAGER IT'S THAT MADE HIM, THAT'D BE SOMETHING YOU COULD REALLY ANSWER BECAUSE IT'S QUANTITATIVE, BUT HOW MUCH OUR PROBLEM IS THIS? IT DOESN'T, I DON'T SEE A LOT OF THIS AROUND TOWN, BUT AM I MISSING SOMETHING? WELL, THE STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY COMPLAINTS, UM, FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTION FROM THE COMMUNITY ON THIS ISSUE.
UH, WE REGULARLY, WHEN WE IDENTIFY, UM, SIGNS THAT MAY BE, UM, THAT MAY BE COMPROMISING THE CODE SUCH AS A CANNED SIGN OR A FREESTANDING SIGN THAT HAS ADDITIONAL LIGHTS AROUND THEM.
THOSE WE WILL ADDRESS BLINKING SIGNS THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE DOWNTOWN.
THOSE WILL BE ADDRESSED BY CODE ENFORCEMENT AS WELL.
UM, MORE QUESTIONS, STEVE, YOU SAID BLINKING SIGNS OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN BECAUSE THAT IMPLIED BLINKING SIGNS ARE ALLOWED INSIDE OF DOWNTOWN.
BLINKING SIGNS THAT, UH, LIKE A BLINKING OPEN SIGN.
WHAT ABOUT A BLINKING WINDOW TRIM, UH, LIGHT ROPES AND, UH, WITH OUR LOUD THAN DOWNTOWN, AS WELL AS BLINKING LIGHT ROPES IN THE DOWNTOWN, THOSE ARE ALLOWED TO BE CLICKED.
SO I'VE GOT COMMENTS ANYTIME YOU'RE READY FOR IT.
UM, ACTUALLY MYSELF AND COUNCILMAN KENDRICK BROUGHT THIS FORWARD.
IT WAS NOT NECESSARILY A COMMUNITY GENERATED THING, BUT HERE'S THE THINKING A TYPICAL, I AGREE WITH YOU AS METRO, THAT WE'D LIKE TO NOT MAKE UP ALL THESE RULES, YOU TRY TO GIVE THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO GET IT RIGHT ON THEIR OWN FIRST, UM, THE, THE MORTGAGE CRISIS IN THE WHATEVER, LATE NINETIES, WHATEVER, WHEN THEY JUST TOOK ADVANTAGE OF PEOPLE, GIVING MONEY AWAY, UH, AND OTHERS GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS TO, TO NOT LET THAT HAPPEN AGAIN, TO LET PEOPLE GET IN TROUBLE.
SO I LIKE THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO GET IT RIGHT FIRST, BEFORE WE HAVE TO STEP IN.
BUT AT THIS CASE, I DO THINK WE HAVE TO IN, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO BRING PEOPLE DOWNTOWN TO THE MAGNOLIA UPGRADE DOWNTOWN.
AND SO WHEN THEY COME DOWNTOWN AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE FUNDS ZONE AT THE DEL MAR FAIR WITH BLINKING LIGHTS,
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THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE VALUE AND THE BRAND OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN OKLAHOMA.UM, THE PLACE WHERE OTHER COMMUNITY THEATERS ARE, I DON'T SEE THESE KINDS OF LIGHTS, THE POWAY COMMUNITY, UH, CENTER OF THE ARTS THAT SOME OF THE THEATERS DOWNTOWN, UH, THINGS YOU DON'T FIND, THESE FLASHING LIGHTS AND ROPES AND DIFFERENT COLORS, UH, THERE.
SO I THINK IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES TO, UH, NOT HAVE THESE KINDS OF THINGS.
DO THESE ROPES AND THINGS ADD VALUE.
THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY, LOOK AT ME, BUT WHEN YOU DO IT IN BLUE MAGENTO, GREEN, YELLOW, UH, IT DOES LOOK LIKE A DEL MAR FUND ZONE.
DOES IT HURT A BUSINESS TO TAKE THESE AWAY? NO, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON THEIR SALES, IN MY OPINION, SPENDING 30 YEARS IN MARKETING, I DO AGREE WITH THE CARVE OUT FOR WINTER HOLIDAYS, UH, THAT, UH, THE WINTER HOLIDAYS FROM THANKSGIVING TO THE DAY AFTER, UH, NEW YEAR'S IS A FESTIVAL OF LIGHTS IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.
AND I WOULD JUST SAY, HAVE AT IT HAVE FUN.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS SENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FOR THOSE KINDS OF DIRECTIONS.
PHIL, DID YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? UM, SO, UM, HERE'S DEMOCRACY IN ACTION.
I'M GOING TO DISAGREE WITH STEVE, UH, IN THIS, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND BY, BY THE, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE DONE WITH QUESTIONS IF YOU'D LIKE TO SIT YOU, BUT YOU CERTAINLY MAY.
UM, I, UM, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS REALLY THAT BIG OF A PROBLEM.
AND, UM, I THINK IT'S CULTURAL.
I THINK IT'S CULTURAL TO OUR ACCOUNTING COUNTY AND COMMUNITY AND, UH, I DON'T FEEL INCLINED TO REGULATE IT.
SO I THINK I WOULD BE, UH, I WOULD BE ENCOURAGED TO LEAVE THINGS, UH, LEAVE THINGS THE WAY THEY ARE, BUT, UH, WE CAN CERTAINLY VOTE ON AND LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
UH, ANY, UH, ANY OF THE DISCUSSION OR MY ONLY CONCERN IS, IS THAT YES, IF WE KEEP IT FOR THE WINTER TIME, I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BLOW BACK ON US THAT WE'RE NOT BEING SENSITIVE TO THE OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT ARE HERE, UM, WHO CELEBRATE RAMADAN AND, AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY PUT LIGHTS UP FOR RAMADAN.
I OPEN UP A CAN OF WORMS SOMETIMES.
AND I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY PUT UP CERTAIN LIGHTS FOR KWANZAA.
UM, I JUST, I DON'T WANT TO ALIENATE ANYBODY.
I LIKE TO HAVE CONSISTENCY AND I THINK WE NEED TO BRING A LITTLE BIT OF CLASS TO ALCOHOL.
CAUSE WE FIGHT THAT ALL THE TIME.
UM, ON THE OTHER HAND, I ALSO DON'T WANT TO BE THIS, YOU KNOW, THE GOVERNMENT THUMB ON THE BUSINESS.
SO, AND I WOULD, I WOULD MENTION ALSO THAT, UM, THE LACK OF COMPLAINTS FROM THE PUBLIC SHOULD SAY SOMETHING RIGHT, BUT I'M CERTAINLY OPEN IT UP TO, UM, TO EMOTION.
WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT IF YOU DON'T HEAR COMPLAINTS, THAT, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THERE'S NOT A PROBLEM.
IT JUST MEANS NOBODY'S COMPLAINED ABOUT IT.
SO, UH, BUT I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER ONE I'M GOING TO HANG MYSELF OUT OF THE LIMB, ONE OF THOSE, UH, AIR PURIFIER MOMENTS.
WHICH I STILL BELIEVE IN, YOU KNOW, I, I GOTTA BE HONEST BEFORE WE BOUGHT, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY LIKE SUPER WRITER, SUPER WRONG ANSWER HERE.
I THINK IT'S JUST, IT'S A NUANCE THING.
AND, AND I GET EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND I THINK YOU'RE, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
WE, WE SHOULD STRIVE TOWARDS MAKING ALCOHOL IN A, UH, BETTER, ALWAYS STRIVE TOWARDS MAKING IT BETTER.
I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE CULTURAL THING.
I AM CONCERNED ABOUT CULTURE CLASH, UH, AND TRYING TO MAKE THINGS AS, AS, UH, AGREEABLE TO EVERYBODY.
UH, SO THIS IS REALLY COMING FROM MY EXPERIENCE IN MARKETING.
UM, BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION TO SEND THIS TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR DISCUSSION, EVALUATION, AND RECOMMENDATION.
AND FOR THE RECORD, SIR, THERE WERE NO COMMENTS FOR THIS ITEM.
OH, I THOUGHT I HAD ASKED THAT ALREADY.
UM, MOTION FAILS ONTO THE NEXT ONE.
[15. Administration of Naloxone (Narcan) by City of El Cajon Staff RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council receives the report.]
15 AS A REPORT ON THE ADMINISTRATION OF NALOXONE, MY CITY STAFF, I'LL ASK CITY MANAGER, PLEASE ENTER THIS, THIS ITEM MAYBE BEFORE WE MOVE AWAY FROM THAT, I SHOULD HAVE POINTED OUT THAT WHEN YOU HAVE A TIE VOTE, UM, UNDER OUR[01:55:01]
PROCEDURES AND THE ABSENT MEMBER IS NOT DISQUALIFIED, IS THE RULE IS THAT IT COMES BACK TO THE NEXT AVAILABLE MEETING.IT CAN BE DISGUSTING AT THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, UH, MR. MAYOR, MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, UH, INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA PACKAGES, UH, UM, A STAFF REPORT ABOUT THE CITY'S ADMINISTRATION OF, OF NARCAN AND SOME TRENDS.
THIS IS REALLY MORE OF AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM.
WE THOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING.
AND I KNOW MR. GOBLE NOW ADMINISTERED NARCAN, AND WE'VE SEEN HIM DOING THAT.
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE NOTICED A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE AND THOUGHT IT'S, THERE'S SOME VALUE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL TO KIND OF SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THE STREETS, BUT ALSO FOR MAYBE FOR THE PUBLIC TO RECOGNIZE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES AND SOME OF THE SUCCESSES THAT WE'VE HAD AS A RESULT OF.
SO THIS IS JUST A, A QUICK GRAPH THAT SHOWS HOW MUCH, UH, THE ISSUANCE OF NARCAN IN THE PAST, UH, SIX MONTHS IN 2021, IT SHOWS, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENTS ISSUANCE OF IN RED AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S ISSUE IN BLUE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, TYPICALLY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ISSUES MORE NARCAN THAN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT IN THE MONTHS OF FEBRUARY AND MAY, IT WAS PRETTY, ALMOST EVENLY SPLIT BETWEEN THOSE TWO DEPARTMENTS.
UM, JUST NOTE THIS, THIS REPRESENTS 202 ISSUANCES OF NARCAN THAT, THAT ENDS UP BEING MORE THAN ONE A DAY, UM, 202 LIVES SAVED JUST IN THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF 2021 THROUGH THIS DRUG IS PRETTY MIRACULOUS.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THERE THERE'S POTENTIALLY 202 PEOPLE THAT WOULD, WOULD HAVE, WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD HAVE, UH, EXPIRED OR, OR PASSED AWAY, BUT POTENTIALLY 202 PEOPLE WOULD HAVE DIED OF OVERDOSE BECAUSE OF, UM, OPIOID MOST IN MOST CASES, OPIOID, UM, DID NOT BECAUSE OF OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, IT'S PRETTY, IT'S PRETTY MIRACULOUS.
AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO THANK THEM FOR.
AND I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC RECOGNIZES HOW MUCH THEY'RE DOING TO PROTECT THE LIVES OF OUR RESIDENTS.
UM, WE ALSO BROKE DOWN JUST KIND OF WHO'S WHO, WHO WE ADMINISTERING THIS TO.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE MAJORITY BY FAR ARE TWO 20 TO 39 YEAR OLD.
SO 65% OF THE ISSUANCES OF NARCAN ARE TO THAT AGE GROUP.
UM, WE'RE ALSO ABLE TO GET SOME COUNTY-WIDE DATA OF ADMINISTRATION OF NARCAN, UH, ACROSS THE COUNTY.
THERE'S, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF GREAT HISTORICAL DATA ON THIS, BUT YOU CAN SEE THERE'S, THERE'S BEEN A UPWARD TREND OF ITS USE.
YOU CAN SEE A LOT OF POLICE DEPARTMENTS BETWEEN 2016 AND 2017 STARTED, UM, CARRY NARCAN IN THEIR VEHICLES AND WITH POLICE OFFICERS.
SO THERE WAS A 45% INCREASE IN ITS USAGE THAT YEAR AND EVERY YEAR THERE HAS BEEN A SIGNIFICANT IN, IN THE, IN THE DOUBLE DIGIT INCREASE YEAR AFTER YEAR.
UH, LASTLY, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, UM, THE NUMBER OF FENTANYL DEATHS THAT HAVE OCCURRED IN THE CITY OF AL OUR COUNTY WIDE, SORRY, THIS IS COUNTY WIDE.
UM, SINCE 2017, YOU CAN SEE THAT, UM, AND THE STAFF REPORT I ACTUALLY IDENTIFIES, UM, OPIOID ARE, ARE ALL OVERDOSE DEATHS HAVE INCREASED DRAMATICALLY IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.
UM, OVER OPIOID DEATHS HAVE INCREASED FENTANYL DEATHS INCREASED BY 206% BETWEEN 2019 AND 2020.
AND IT'S PROJECTED TO HA WE'LL HAVE 700 FENTANYL RELATED DEATHS THIS YEAR, BASED ON THE CURRENT TRENDS THAT WE'RE GOING RIGHT NOW.
UM, THE ONLY, THE ONLY DEATH THAT DROPPED IN THIS PERIOD OF TIME WAS HEROIN.
SO I'M PRETTY PHENOMENAL OF HOW MUCH DEATH AND DESTRUCTION IS HAPPENING BECAUSE OF ILLEGAL DRUGS ON OUR STREETS.
THE STAFF REPORT IDENTIFIES A COUPLE OF THE REASONS WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHY THERE'S SUCH A SPIKE IN INCREASES.
SOME OF THE AREAS THAT WE THINK THAT ARE OCCURRING IS ONE.
WE KNOW THAT ALMOST EVERY DRUG TYPE THAT CROSSES THE BORDER FROM MEXICO HAS SOME FORM OF FENTANYL INVOLVED WITH IT.
SO WHETHER IT'S MARIJUANA OR WHETHER IT'S OTHER TYPES OF PILLS, THERE IS THERE'S FENTANYL LACING.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT, UM, THERE'S AN INCREASE IN HOMELESSNESS.
AND SO THERE'S INCREASES OF DRUG USE ON OUR STREETS.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT, UH, LEGISLATION AND POLICIES THAT HAVE BEEN ENACTED BY THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, SUCH AS PROP 47 AND ZERO BAIL POLICIES HAVE DECRIMINALIZED THE USE OF DRUGS.
AND SO THERE'S, THERE'S EASY ACCESS AND
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THERE'S EASY USE OF DRUGS ON OUR CITY STREETS, AND THERE'S NOT MUCH WE CAN DO IN THE TRADITIONAL SENSE OF HOW WE'VE DEALT WITH IT IN THE PAST THROUGH LAW ENFORCEMENT MEANS.AND LASTLY, WE, WE THINK THAT THERE MAY JUST BE A LESS OF A FEAR OF DEATH, OF DYING, BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH A KNOWN ABUNDANCE OF NARCAN AVAILABLE.
AND SO THAT HAS TAKEN AWAY SOME OF THE FEAR THAT SOMEHOW THAT'S, THAT'S ANECDOTAL AND THAT'S SPECULATIVE, BUT THOSE ARE FOUR REASONS THAT WE SEE PERHAPS WHY THERE'S SUCH AN INCREASE OF FENTANYL DEATHS, JUST BECAUSE OF ALL THESE REASONS.
SO WITH THAT, STAFF'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE.
UH, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT IS HERE TO ANSWER ANY VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT I WOULDN'T KNOW THE ANSWERS TO, BUT WE THOUGHT THIS WAS AN INTERESTING TOPIC AND SOMETHING THAT WE THOUGHT THE COUNCIL SHOULD BE AWARE OF.
COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS, SEE ANY STATISTICS ON THE 202 AND ALCOHOL AND WHAT CA WHERE THEY, UH, HOUSED NOT HOUSED.
WE DO NOT KEEP DATA ON RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE NOT TRADITIONALLY KEPT DATA ON ETHNICITY OR WHETHER THEY'RE HOUSED OR NOT HOUSED.
AND I DON'T KNOW, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF WE STARTED KEEPING DATA ON THAT I'M SEEING.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY HISTORIC DATA TO SHARE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRACKING RIGHT NOW.
I GUESS, WHERE I'M LEADING WITH IS IF WE FIND OUT THAT A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PEOPLE ARE HOUSED LIVING IN APARTMENTS OR THINGS LIKE THAT, IT MIGHT BE WORTH A PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN.
ESPECIALLY WITH USING A HEAT MAP, YOU CAN KIND OF IDENTIFY AREAS THAT WE NEED TO FOCUS THAT ATTENTION TOWARD.
I HAVE A QUESTION IT'S A LITTLE BIT OFF SUBJECT.
UM, THERE WAS AN INCIDENT, UH, MAYBE TWO MONTHS AGO WHERE A SHERIFF'S DEPUTY WAS, UH, OVERCOME BY FENTANYL, UH, FUMES OR, OR TOUCHING, INADVERTENTLY TOUCHING SOME OF IT.
AND, UM, RIGHT AFTER THAT HAPPENED, THERE WAS A LETTER SIGNED BY SEVERAL HUNDRED DOCTORS SAYING THAT YOU, YOU CAN'T BE OVERCOME BY FENTANYL BY THAT KIND OF EXPOSURE.
AND IT WAS, IT BECAME CONTROVERSIAL.
UM, I'M NOT ALL THAT INTERESTED IN THE CONTROVERSY, BUT I AM INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHAT THE TRUTH IS.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT, THAT, UH, WE PUT OUT SOME KIND OF, UH, UH, UH, DIRECTIVES TO OUR FIRST RESPONDERS SO THAT THEY KNOW HOW DANGEROUS THE SITUATION IS OR HOW DANGEROUS IT'S NOT.
AND, UM, YOU THINK THAT YOU COULD, UH, UH, FOLLOW UP ON THAT FOR US.
FOLLOW-UP ON ENSURING THAT OUR OFFICERS ARE AWARE OF THE DANGERS, OR MAYBE SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE, YOU MENTIONED ABOUT WHAT, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW DANGEROUS IT IS, THE FIRST RESPONDERS CAN THEY, CAN THEY DIE FROM INHALING FENTANYL THAT'S RANDOMLY IN THE AIR OR DO THEY HAVE TO INGEST IT? YOU KNOW? SO I, AND I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER, SO I, BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS.
UM, ALL RIGHT, ANGELA, WE HAVE ANY SPIRIT CARDS WITH THE SENTIMENT.
OH YEAH, I HAVE, PLEASE, PLEASE.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE THE SCHOOL SYSTEM DOESN'T REALLY WANT TO GET INVOLVED WITH THIS BECAUSE THEY FEEL THEY HAVE A LIABILITY IF THEY GIVE NARCAN NARCAN TO PEOPLE UNDER 18.
WELL, THAT'S NOT REALLY HELPING BECAUSE, UH, IN AUGUST TWO, 15 YEAR OLD YOUTHS IN CHULA VISTA, UH, OVERDOSED, ONE OF THEM DIED.
SO THIS ISN'T JUST A PROBLEM WHERE WE THINK IT'S A DRUG USERS.
IT COULD HAVE HAPPENED TO YOUR TEENAGE KID BECAUSE THEY COULD INVITE SOMEBODY OVER TO A PARTY OR YOUR KID MAY GO TO A PARTY.
AND THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY DOWN ON THE GROUND AND THIS MIGHT BE WORTH CONSIDERING A PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN, BECAUSE IF THOSE PARENTS HAD THAT, THEY MIGHT HAVE HAD A DIFFERENT OUTCOME.
UM, I WAS DRIVING AROUND PROBABLY ABOUT THREE, FOUR WEEKS AGO NOW ON WALTER WAY.
AND I CLEARLY SAW THIS YOUNG MAN OVERDOSING.
HE LOOKED LIKE, UH, THOSE, UH, BALLOON THINGS OUTSIDE OF CAR WASHES, THAT KIND OF FLAIL.
AND HE WAS FLAILING LIKE THAT.
AND SOMEBODY WAS TRYING TO HOLD THEM UP BECAUSE HE, HE HAD FALLEN DOWN IS HIT HIS FACE AND HE WAS, HE WAS HURT.
I ASKED THE PEOPLE IF, IF THEY WANTED ME TO ADMINISTER IT OR IF THEY WANTED TO, THEY SAID THEY DID.
SO THEY'RE VERY FAMILIAR WITH IT ON THE STREET ALREADY.
IT TOOK BOTH DOSES TO BRING THIS GUY BACK AND HE NAPPED TO ATTENTION IN ABOUT TWO MINUTES.
AND THEN HE TOOK OFF RUNNING CAUSE HE WANTED NOTHING TO DO WITH ANYBODY COMING.
AND THIS WHOLE GROUP SCATTERED, WHICH I HOPE THAT THIS YOUNG MAN IS OKAY BECAUSE
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IT DELAYS THE NEED FOR MEDICAL ATTENTION FOR ABOUT AN HOUR OR SO, BECAUSE HE STILL HAS THE OVERDOSE IN HIS SYSTEM.SO, BUT I THINK THE VALUE OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS FOR PARENTS, WHICH HAS NO COST TO HAVE, IF THEY HAVE TEENAGERS OR, OR OTHER AT-RISK PEOPLE IN THEIR HOME, IT'S A NO-BRAINER TO HAVE THIS KIND OF STUFF.
YOU CANNOT, UM, ACCIDENTALLY HURT SOMEBODY GIVING THIS.
IF THERE'S NO OPIOIDS IN THEIR SYSTEM, IT DOESN'T WORK.
WHEN YOU TRY TO GIVE THIS TO SOMEBODY, YOU WON'T BE SUED BECAUSE YOU GAVE THEM NARCAN.
SO I THINK IT'S EVERY PARENT OF TEENAGERS SHOULD HAVE IT.
IT'S, THERE'S JUST NO DOWNSIDE.
IF PEOPLE THINK THEY HAVE A FALSE SENSE OF TRUST, BECAUSE SOMEBODY NEARBY WITH NARCAN, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE.
UM, IT'S REALLY, UH, ADMIRABLE THAT YOU WENT TO THAT TRAINING.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR, UM, ALL RIGHT.
WE DON'T NEED A MOTION FOR THIS ITEM.
I THINK WE JUST, UH, ACCEPT THE REPORT AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE TIME.
[16. Legislative Update]
ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS ON TODAY'S AGENDA IS ITEM 16, WHICH IS A LEGISLATIVE REPORT.AND I'LL ASK OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, VINCE MAGGIO TO TELL US ABOUT THIS.
WELL, THIS IS ALWAYS A LOT OF FUN TO LOOK AT.
AND WE'LL, WE'LL WEAVE HAPPY AND, AND CONFIDENT THAT THE SACRAMENTO'S BEING WELL-MANAGED.
UH, I'M GOING TO JUST HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE OF THEM BECAUSE THE GOVERNOR HAS UNTIL, UM, OCTOBER 10TH TO SIGN BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, ADOPTED, PASSED BY BOTH HOUSES AND SENT TO HIM.
SO I WILL, I WILL, UM, GO OVER JUST A FEW OF THEM BECAUSE SOME HAVE, UM, ARE WAITING HIS SIGNATURE IF HE DECIDES TO SIGN IT AND SOME HAVE DIED.
AND SO SOME OF THEM THAT I'VE DIED ARE THE ONES THAT, UM, THAT WE PAID CLOSE ATTENTION TO.
AND I WANT TO BRING THOSE TO YOUR ATTENTION.
ONE, ONE THAT HAS PASSED THAT WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT AS SB NINE.
UH, THIS IS THE ONE THAT WOULD REQUIRE.
I JUST, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THESE WORDS REQUIRE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO MINISTERIALLY MEANING NO PLANNING, COMMISSIONER CITY COUNCIL APPROVE HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS CONTAINING TWO RESIDENTIAL UNITS IN SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE VERY CONCERNED THAT THAT DEFACTO CREATES MEDIUM DENSITY ZONING DISTRICTS OUT OF SINGLE FAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS.
AND WE ALSO DON'T KNOW HOW THAT PLAYS OUT WITH, TO, UM, MINISTERIALLY ALLOWING, UH, GRANTING UNITS, THE SECOND DWELLING UNITS, WHICH IS ALSO ALREADY ON THE BOOKS.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S SOME CONFUSION HERE WITH HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE ADMINISTERED.
IF THE GOVERNOR DECIDES TO SIGN IT, WE'LL HAVE TO DIG DEEPER INTO IT, BUT THAT'S A WAITING THE GOVERNOR'S SIGNATURE.
AND OF COURSE NOTHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN UNTIL HE GETS BY TODAY.
AND, UM, IF, IF HE SHOULD GET BY TODAY AND HE STILL MAY CHOOSE TO SIGN IT DURING THE TRANSITION PERIOD, BUT WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL OCTOBER 10TH.
SO JUST, JUST TO CLARIFY VINCE, UM, SO A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE, IF THIS PASSES POSSIBLY COULD BUILD TWO APARTMENTS IN THEIR, IN THEIR BACKYARD, WE THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE INTERPRETATIONS.
UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT AGREED UPON THAT.
THAT'S THE ONLY INTERPRETATION WE'RE JUST, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK CLOSELY INTO IT IF IT GETS, AND THERE'S NOT A THING THAT THE COUNCIL OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR THE CITY STAFF COULD DO ABOUT IT, CORRECT.
HOW WOULD THEY, HOW WOULD THEY GO ABOUT GETTING APPROVAL TO, I MEAN, FOR DESIGN DESIGN STANDARDS, SETBACKS, ALL THAT.
WELL, AGAIN, THAT'S A GOOD POINT THAT THAT MAY BE A BACKDOOR REGULATORY MECHANISM.
IF YOU STILL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS OF THE UNDERLYING ZONING DISTRICT.
AND IF YOU CAN'T, THEN THAT MAY BE A WAY OF SAYING, WELL, I'M SORRY.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE IT TO YOU IF YOU DON'T COMPLY WITH THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
SO AGAIN, IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT MORE LOOKING INTO, UM, IF THIS ACTUALLY DOES BECOME LAW.
UM, ASSEMBLY BILL OR AB 3, 3, 3, UH, PROPOSED TO PROPOSES, TO REMOVE BURGLARY LOOTING, FELONY, VANDALISM IDENTITY FRAUD FROM CRIMES THAT DEFINE A PATTERN OF CRIMINAL GANG ACTIVITY.
I BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE I, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ONES THAT I THINK CONFUSES ALL OF US BECAUSE ALL OF THOSE CRIMES TYPICALLY ARE, ARE WHAT DEFINES CRIMINAL GANG ACTIVITY.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN APPROVED AND IS WAITING THE GOVERNOR'S SIGNATURE AGAIN, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO SEE, UH, AB 48 IS AN IMPORTANT, UM, PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT I'VE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE PAST.
IT PROHIBITS THE USE OF KINETIC ENERGY PROJECTILES, UM, FROM, FROM USE BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO DISPERSE PROTESTS, ASSEMBLIES,
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AND DEMONSTRATIONS.NOW, IF THIS, THIS HAS BEEN PASSED, IT'S ON THE GOVERNOR'S DESK.
IF HE SHOULD SIGN THIS, THERE REALLY IS NO WAY THAT I CAN THINK OF, OR PERHAPS THE POLICE CHIEF CAN THINK OF HOW YOU CAN SAFELY DISPERSE PEOPLE, UM, THAT WHEN, WHEN AN ASSEMBLY BECOMES UNRULY, UH, WITHOUT USING NON LESS LETHAL, UM, KINETIC ENERGY PROJECTILES.
SO TH THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE THERE REALLY IS NO WAY TO DISPERSE CROWDS, UM, THAT THAT ARE STARTING TO OUTNUMBER THE POLICE.
UM, SB FIVE 19 WAS THE EFFORT TO DECRIMINALIZE PSYCHEDELICS THAT FAILED.
UM, SO THERE WAS THAT, THAT WAS HELD UP BY THE DEMOCRATS.
SOME, SOME MORE MODERATE DEMOCRATS HELD OUT ON THAT, AND THAT DID NOT GO TO A VOTE.
UH, THIS WOULD BE THE HOUSING, UH, APPEAL COMMITTEE WHERE A DEVELOPER CAN APPEAL YOUR DECISION TO A STATEWIDE HOUSING COMMITTEE, UM, AND THEY CAN OVERRULE YOU, UM, THAT FAILED.
UM, AND WHEN I SAY THESE HAVE FAILED, IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY CAN'T COME BACK IN THE NEW YEAR, BUT, UM, IT'S, IT'S GOOD.
ANYTIME THESE BAD ONES FAIL, BECAUSE THIS WAS PARTICULARLY, UH, ONEROUS, I THINK, UM, AB TWO 15, THIS WOULD REQUIRE, UH, CITIES TO HAVE A MID CYCLE HOUSING ELEMENT CONSULTATION WITH HCD AND A NUMBER OF OTHER, UH, THINGS THAT WOULD, WOULD, WOULD REQUIRE A DESIGNATED PRO-HOUSING DESIGNATION FROM HCD, UH, IN ORDER TO STAY ON TRACK WITH THEIR HOUSING ELEMENT NUMBERS THAT THEY, THEY PUT INTO THE, UM, INTO THEIR DOCUMENT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, WE JUST DID A HOUSING ELEMENT AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF, UH, UH, FIGURES IN THERE THAT WE HAVE TO, UM, STRIVE TO ATTAIN THAT DID PASS IT'S AWAITING THE GOVERNOR'S SIGNATURE, UM, AB 1401 WOULD, UH, PROHIBIT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FROM IMPOSING MINIMUM PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
YOU'LL RECALL WE DISCUSSED THIS SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AS WELL, THAT DIED.
AND, UM, FINALLY, THE LAST ONE I'LL HIGHLIGHT AT THIS POINT IN TIME IS SB 5, 5, 6, WHICH, UH, REQUIRES LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, UH, TO MAKE SPACE AVAILABLE ON STREETLIGHT POLES, TRAFFIC SIGNAL POLES, UTILITY POLES, AND OTHER PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE FOR TELECOMMUNICATION PROVIDERS THAT PASSED.
UM, IT'S AGAIN, IT'S AMBIGUOUS AS TO WHETHER WE CAN CHARGE FEES ON THAT OR NOT.
UH, IT PASSED AND IT'S AWAITING THE GOVERNOR'S SIGNATURE.
UH, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK CLOSELY INTO THIS ONE TO SEE IF IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE IT'S A GIVEAWAY OR WE CAN ACTUALLY CHARGE FOR IT.
SO I WILL COME BACK AFTER OCTOBER 11TH WITH A MORE COMPREHENSIVE REPORT ON EVERYTHING THAT THE GOVERNOR HAS SIGNED AND EVERYTHING THAT HAS HAS NOT BEEN SIGNED OR, OR DIED.
AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME QUESTIONS.
UM, ARE THERE ANY, UM, COMMENTS ON THIS? NO COMMENT CARD, SIR.
COMMISSIONER REPORTS, THERE ARE NONE ITEM 17 IS MY ACTIVITY REPORT AS REPORTED, UM, ACTIVITIES REPORTS FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER GOAL AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, OUR TEES AND COUNCIL MEMBER METRO AS REPORTED.
[22. Veterans Memorial RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council provides feedback and directs staff to bring back a report on possible Veterans Memorial development options.]
A JOINT REPORT FROM MYSELF AND FROM, UH, MR. ORTIZ.AND I'LL, I'LL LEAVE THAT WITH MR. ORTIZ.
SO I'M SPEAKING WITH THE CITY MANAGER AND A, AND A COUPLE OTHER VETERANS GROUPS.
UM, I THOUGHT IT'D BE FITTING TO INTRODUCE THE IDEA TO BRING A NEW VETERANS MEMORIAL, UM, TO THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA, THE CURRENT ONE, UM, WHILE IT IS HONORING, I THINK, UM, WE CAN DO BETTER.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO RECOGNIZE THAT NONE OF US WOULD BE HERE IF IT WASN'T FOR OUR, OUR, OUR ARMED SERVICE MEMBERS.
UM, THE CURRENT ONE IS RIGHT OUT HERE IN THE COURTYARD, IN FRONT OF THE MAGNOLIA.
UM, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S, UH, UH, IT LACKS A CERTAIN, UM, RESPECT, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE CONCERTS AND EVENTS OUT THERE.
UM, SO, SO I WOULD HOPE THAT I COULD GET, UH, COUNCIL'S SUPPORT IN LOOKING INTO GETTING A NEW LOCATION, UM, FOR THE VETERANS OF MEMORIAL, UM, DETERMINING THE,
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THE SCALE OF IT FUNDING.UM, AND NEXT SET, NEXT STEPS WITH IT.
ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? AND JUST STAFF ON DEATH AT ANY COLOR? SO I THINK WHAT STAFF'S LOOKING FOR, IF THE COUNCIL WANTS WE CAN GET DIRECTION OR ANY FIRST CITY FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL ON THIS AND THEN ANY DIRECTION, UM, AND THEN WE'LL BRING BACK ON A GENDER REPORT BASED ON WHAT YOU ASK US TO DO TONIGHT, AND WE CAN BRING THAT BACK, UM, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
I'D LOVE TO GET, UH, GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON WHAT'S BEST.
I MEAN, UM, I THINK THAT, UM, I WANT IT TO BE AT A PROTECTED LOCATION WHERE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE VANDALIZED AND BECOME A POLITICAL OBJECT.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS IN FRONT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND I WANT IT TO BE RESPECTFUL AND A MEANINGFUL, THE OTHER ELEMENT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION IS, YOU KNOW, WAYS TO, TO FUND THIS PROJECT, I THINK INVOLVING THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE PARAMOUNT, ESPECIALLY OUR FIRST RESPONDER COMMUNITY AND OUR MILITARY COMMUNITY.
UM, SO MAYBE DEVELOP SOME STRATEGIES AROUND FUNDING.
I, IF, UM, WE COULD WORK WITH, UH, PHIL COULD WORK WITH YOU OFFLINE AND THEY COME BACK AND REPORT TO THE COUNCIL ABOUT, UH, PLANS FOR FIRST OFF, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH WE WANT TO SPEND.
AND THEN WE'LL, WE'RE WHERE THE MONEY'S GOING TO COME FROM.
AND I SUSPECT THAT THIS COMMUNITY WOULD BE ABLE TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
WE CAN COME BACK WITH KIND OF A RANGE OF OPTIONS, OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR LOCATIONS AND SORT OF, I THINK THE WORD WAS USED SCALE AND GIVE THE COUNCIL SOME, SOME, UH, SOME OF THE CHEW ON A LITTLE BIT.
AND THEN FROM THAT, I THINK GET SOME MORE SPECIFIC DIRECTION OF HOW TO IMPLEMENT.
AND IT'D BE NICE TO GET IMPLEMENT IT, GET SOME INPUT FROM THE, FROM THE COMMUNITY AND NOT JUST A US P THIS IS A MEMORIAL FOR EVERYBODY WHO'S CONNECTED TO THE MILITARY AND IN LOTS OF DIFFERENT WAYS, AND EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST WEIGH IN.
I WROTE, I WROTE DOWN, THIS IS WHAT I WROTE DOWN AND TELL ME IF I'M MISSING ANYTHING FOR THE ANALYSIS LOCATIONS, SCALE FUNDING, NOT ONLY COSTS OF EACH OF THOSE SCALES, BUT ALSO FUNDRAISING OPTIONS.
UM, AND THEN HOW, WHAT THE PROCESS WOULD LOOK LIKE AND HOW TO INVOLVE THE COMMUNITY.
ANY OTHER ASPECTS THAT YOU THINK THAT YOU NEED AS A COUNCIL? IT SOUNDS GOOD.
LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANY, UH, COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM.
SEE, I'M I'M BEING GOOD TONIGHT.
I ASKED EVERY TIME I WAS FORGET.
SO, UH, SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, MOVE TO DIRECT STAFF, TO BRING BACK A REPORT ON POSSIBLE VETERANS, MEMORIAL DEVELOPMENT AND OPTIONS.
ALRIGHT, PLEASE VOTE MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
ALL RIGHT, THERE ARE NO GENERAL INFORMATION ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
THERE ARE NO FIRST READINGS OR SECOND READINGS OF ORDINANCE ON TODAY'S AGENDA, AND THAT BRINGS US
[23. CLOSED SESSIONS:]
TO CLOSED SESSION.THE CITY ATTORNEY WILL RECITE THE TITLE AND LEAD US IN THE CLOSED SESSION.
THE CITY COUNCIL'S MEETING AND CLOSED SESSION ON THREE ITEMS. FIRST ONE IS A CLOSED SESSION FOR CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL ANTICIPATED LITIGATION, SIGNIFICANT EXPOSURE LITIGATION PURSUANT TO PARAGRAPH TWO OF SUBDIVISION D GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 49, 5 6 0.9.
THERE'S ONE POTENTIAL CASE IS IT DESCRIBED IN THE AGENDA.
UH, THE SECOND IS ACTUALLY INVOLVED THE SAME INCIDENT, BUT IT'S AN UNDER THE SAME PURPOSES.
UH THAT'S UH, PARAGRAPH TWO OF SUBDIVISION D OF GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5, 4 9 5 6 0.9.
THIS HAPPENS TO BE THE SECOND ONE HAPPENS TO BE THE OWNER OF A VEHICLE.
THE FIRST ONE WAS SUBROGATION CLAIM OF THE INSURANCE COMPANY.
THE THIRD CLOSED SESSION IS A CLOSED SESSION FOR REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATIONS, UH, UNDER, UH, GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5.95 6.8 UNDER NEGOTIATION WOULD BE PRICED IN TERMS FOR ACQUISITION.
AND THERE IS A LIST OF 61 PARCELS THAT WE ARE MEETING WITH YOU TO, UH, DISCUSS.
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TO ADJOURN THE CLOSED SESSION, PLEASE VOTE MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE'LL BE BACK IN JUST A FEW MOMENTS, UH, REPORT ON CLOSED SESSION.
UH, THE CITY COUNCILMAN QUILLO SESSION ON THREE ITEMS AT FIRST TWO OR A CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL ON ANTICIPATE LITIGATION UNDER, UM, PARAGRAPH TWO OF SUBDIVISION D OF GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5, 4 9 5, 6 0.9.
THEY BOTH INVOLVE THE SAME, UH, COLLISION, UH, WHERE A DRIVER VEHICLE COLEEN MURPHY, UH, WAS, UH, STRUCK BY A CITY VEHICLE.
ONE IS A SUBROGATION CLAIM AND THE OTHER IS HER OWN FIRST PARTY OR A THIRD, WELL FIRST PARTY CLAIM AGAINST THE CITY, UH, DIRECTION WAS GIVEN TO THE CITY'S LEGAL COUNSEL ON BOTH OF THOSE.
AND THEN ON THE, THE ITEM 25, THE CLOSED SESSION FOR CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATORS PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 5 49, 5 6 0.8 DIRECTION WAS GIVEN TO THE CITY'S NEGOTIATORS ON, UH, ALL THE PARCELS LISTED IN THE AGENDA.
OKAY, THEN THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE GERMAN, THE REGULAR JOINT MEETING OF THE AL COHN CITY COUNCIL, ALCOHOL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE ALCOHOL REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY HELD THIS 14TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER, 2021 IS ADJOURNED UNTIL TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 28TH, 2021 AT 3:00 PM.
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH AND HAVE A GOOD TWO WEEKS.