Jul 13, 2021 City Council Meeting 3pm

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WELCOME LADIES AND GENTLEMEN TO THE

[ CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Bill Wells]

NOW THAT WE RESUMED IN PERSON MEETINGS, WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO PARTICIPATE IN PERSON.

IF HOWEVER, YOU WOULD RATHER SUBMIT AN ONLINE COMMENT, PLEASE KNOW THAT ONLINE COMMENTS WILL ONLY BE ACCEPTED UNTIL 12:00 PM.

ON THE DAY OF THE MEETING, COMMENTS MAY BE SUBMITTED THROUGH THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA WEBSITE, WHICH IS CITY OF OKLAHOMA.US.

LOOK UNDER AGENDAS AND MINUTES.

THE MEETING HAS NOT CALLED ORDER.

I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR CITY CLERK TO PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

THANK YOU, SIR.

COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL IS ABSENT.

ALL OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE PRESENT.

WILL YOU PLEASE STAND WITH ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, REMAIN STANDING FOR A BRIEF MOMENT OF SILENCE.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THE CITY CLERK POSTED ORDERS

[ POSTINGS: The City Clerk posted Orders of Adjournment of the June 22, 2021, Meeting and the Agenda of the July 13, 2021, Meetings in accordance to State Law and Council/Authority/Successor Agency to the Redevelopment Agency Policy.]

BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO OUR REGULAR AGENDA, I'D LIKE TO INVITE OUR RESIDENTS TO THE FIRST REDISTRICTING RE-DISTRICTING PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH WILL BE HELD TOMORROW, JULY 14TH AT SIX 30 AT THE HILLSIDE RECREATION CENTER.

THAT'S LOCATED AT EIGHT 40 BOY AND A TERRACE.

THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN ABOUT AND PARTICIPATE IN THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS AND AGENDA FOR THE HEARING HAS BEEN POSTED ONLINE.

PLEASE CONTACT THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THE PHONE NUMBER THERE IS (619) 441-1763.

NOW MOVING ONTO OUR PRESENTATIONS,

[ PROCLAMATION: Parks and Recreation Month]

AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION MR. FRANK CARSON TO THE PODIUM.

AND I WILL READ THE PROCLAMATION.

FRANK, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO READ IT NOW? OR IS THERE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO SAY FIRST LEASER? OKAY.

JULY IS NATIONAL PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH PARKS OR RECREATION MAKE LIVES AND COMMUNITIES BETTER NOT ONLY IN JULY, BUT ALL YEAR LONG NOW.

THEREFORE I BILL WELLS, THE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA TOGETHER WITH OUR CITY COUNCIL DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF JULY, 2021 TO BE PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH IN THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA SIGN.

THIS 13TH DAY OF JULY, 2021.

FRANK, THANK YOU, MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL.

UH, I HAVE THE HONOR TO PRESENT PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH TO YOU IN A BRIEF VIDEO, A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF OUR PAST VIDEOS.

UH, THIS CITY, UH, WAS A LEADER IN MANY RESPECTS WITHIN PARKS AND RECREATION, AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE LEADERSHIP OF OUR CITY COUNCIL AND OUR CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

UH, AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS WE WERE ONE OF THREE CITIES IN 2020 THAT OFFERED FIREWORKS TO THEIR RESIDENTS.

UH, AND IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY, IF YOU LOOK AT IT IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, THERE WAS ONLY ABOUT EIGHT CITIES ALL IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA THAT DID THAT.

SO WE WERE DEFINITELY TOOK, TOOK THE LEAD BY OUR, OUR ELECTED BODY TO OFFER THAT TO OUR RESIDENTS.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT AGAIN THIS YEAR IN 2021, WE WERE ABLE TO OFFER OUR RESIDENTS THE FIREWORKS SHOW.

UH, SO WE HAVE A CONSISTENT FIREWORK SHOW FROM START TO FINISH SINCE THE HEARTLAND FIRE ACTUALLY STARTED THAT A LONG TIME AGO.

SO THANK THEM ALSO.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE LEADERSHIP FROM OUR CITY COUNCIL WITH DOLLAR DAYS AND OFFERING $1 CLASSES WHERE I KNOW MR. MITCHELL WILL BE PRESENTED ON THAT A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'S VERY SIGNIFICANT WHEN I TELL MY COUNTERPARTS.

SO I HAD A DIRECT REGIONAL DIRECTORS MEETING THAT WE HOSTED HERE IN ELK HOME LAST WEEK.

AND A LOT OF DIRECTORS WERE UPSET THAT THEY COULDN'T FIND STAFF FOR THE SUMMER.

AND THIS CITY TOOK A VERY STRONG ROLE DURING COVID TO NOT ONLY, UH, CONTINUE OUR SERVICES, KEEP OUR PARKS OPEN, WHERE A LOT OF CITIES DID CLOSE OUR PARKS, BUT WE EXPANDED OUR SERVICES AND REDEPLOY THEM IN MANY WAYS.

UH, AND REASON WHY WE DID THAT IS TO MAKE SURE OUR RESIDENTS FELT CONNECTED TO THE PARKS, BUT ALSO HAVING DONE THAT THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COME HERE.

WE DON'T HAVE A SHORTAGE WITH LIFEGUARDS, LIKE OTHER CITIES DO.

WE DON'T HAVE A SHORTAGE TRYING TO FIND STAFF LIKE OTHER CITIES DO.

WE'RE ACTUALLY AT 94% CAPACITY IN OUR PROGRAMS FOR THE SUMMER BECAUSE OF DOLLAR DAYS.

AND THAT'S REALLY SIGNIFICANT WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, JUST BECAUSE SOME CLASSES THAT WOULD USUALLY GET MAYBE JUST ABOVE THE MINIMUM ENROLLMENT, THEY'RE AT ALMOST MAXIMUM ENROLLMENT.

SO A LOT OF REALLY GOOD THINGS ARE HAPPENING WITHIN PARKS AND RECREATION.

UH, THIS YEAR, UH, WE ALWAYS TRY TO DO THE NRPA THEME AND OUR FUNNIEST DIRECTOR LIKES TO CALL NRPA NERPA.

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UM, THAT STANDS FOR NATIONAL RECREATION AND PARK ASSOCIATION.

UH, THEIR THEME THIS YEAR IS TELLING OUR PARKS AND RECREATION STORY.

SO WE HAD A LITTLE FUN WITH IT.

UH, IT IT'S, IT MAY NOT BE THE BEST SOUND CAUSE WE HAVE OUR KIDS TALKING.

I HAD TO BRING THE VOLUME UP TO 250% IN SOME POINTS, BUT, UM, LET'S DO OUR BEST.

I'LL ASK THEM TO GO AHEAD AND PLAY IT.

I LIKE REC CENTER BECAUSE OF THE AWESOME TEACHERS AND THE STUFF THEY TEACH YOU.

I LOVE PARKS AND REC BECAUSE OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND IT'S REALLY BEAUTIFUL.

I LIKE PARKS AND REC BECAUSE I LEARNED DANCING FROM MY HIP HOP THROUGH JUICE.

I LIKE PRACTICING RECS BECAUSE YOU CAN HAVE FUN.

I LIKE PARKS AND REC BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF OPTIONS TO CHOOSE FROM.

I LIKE PARKS AND REC WELL-KEPT.

I LIKE PARKS AND REC BECAUSE THE CLASSES ARE AFFORDABLE.

I LIKE PARKS AND REC BECAUSE THEY'RE FUN SUMMER.

I LIKE PARKS AND REC BECAUSE WE CAN MAKE A LOT OF FRIENDS BECAUSE OF THEIR VOLUNTEER.

I LIKE BOXING RECS BECAUSE OF THE FREE FINANCING.

I LOVE PARKS AND REC BECAUSE THERE'S MANY SPORTS I CAN DO.

AND I CAN HAVE A TON OF FUN IN THE SUN.

I LOVE PARKS AND REC BECAUSE THERE ARE PLAYGROUNDS FOR ALL AGES.

I LOVE PARKS AND RECREATION BECAUSE IT PROVIDES ME WITH OPPORTUNITIES TO FIND A HOBBY.

I ENJOY.

JUST HAVE A LITTLE FUN WITH IT.

UH, THAT WAS MOSTLY FROM LAST WEEK.

WE HAD STUDENTS AT THE DANCE CAMP AND SO WENT OVER THERE AND GOT SOME VIDEO.

UM, YOU DON'T REALLY ALWAYS REALIZE THE IMPACT THAT PARKS AND RECREATION HAS ON A COMMUNITY UNTIL YOU SEE SOMETHING LIKE COVID AND WHERE PEOPLE ARE CLAMORING TO GET INTO THE PARKS AND DO SOMETHING AND CONNECT OUTDOORS.

SO THANK YOU CITY COUNCIL FOR ALWAYS SUPPORTING PARKS AND RECREATION IN THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.

THANKS.

FRANK WALKED TWO KIDS.

UM, BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I WILL TELL YOU, UH, I JUST MOVED TO THE GRANITE HILLS RECENTLY.

SO, UH, WE WATCHED THE FIREWORKS FROM OUR BACKYARD AS PROBABLY THE BEST FIREWORKS SHOW I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE.

THAT WAS UNBELIEVABLE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

ABSOLUTELY.

LET ME SEE ANYBODY ELSE, ANY COMMENTS OR THANKS, FRANK.

DOING A GREAT JOB.

PLEASE GIVE OUR BEST TO EVERYBODY ON YOUR STAFF, GUARANTEED.

ALL RIGHT.

AGENDA CHANGES.

STAFF.

DO YOU HAVE ANY AGENDA CHANGES MR. MAYOR? NO CHANGES TO THE AGENDA COUNCIL MEMBERS.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT BRINGS US TO CONSENT ITEMS.

[7. CONSENT ITEMS: Consent Items are routine matters enacted by one motion according to the RECOMMENDATION listed below. With the concurrence of the City Council, a Council Member or person in attendance may request discussion of a Consent Item at this time.]

IT SAID ITEMS ARE ROUTINE MATTERS, INACTIVE BY ONE MOTION.

ACCORDING TO THE RECOMMENDATION LIST BELOW WITH THE CONCURRENCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OR A COUNCIL MEMBER OR PERSON IN ATTENDANCE MAY REQUEST DISCUSSION OF A CONSENT ITEM AT THIS TIME, COUNCIL MEMBERS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PULL ANY OF THE CONSENT ITEMS, SEEING NONE STAFF? YES, SIR.

I WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THEN TO APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS THAT GOOD.

WELL, BEFORE WE DO THAT, ANGELA IS LOOKING AT ME AND SAYING, WE NEED TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY COMMENTS ON CONSENT ITEMS. NO COMMENTS WERE RECEIVED, SIR.

ALL RIGHT, NOW WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR.

PLEASE VOTE MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

OH, THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

THANK YOU.

WITHOUT PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME, ANY PERSON MAY ADDRESS A MATTER WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL HOUSING AUTHORITY SUCCESSOR AGENCY TO THE ALCON REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA COMMENTS RELATED TO ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA ALREADY BE TAKEN AT THE TIME THAT THE ENEMAS HEARD STATE LAW PROHIBITS DISCUSSION OR ACTION ITEMS, NOT ON THE AGENDA.

HOWEVER, CITY COUNCIL AND HOUSING AUTHORITY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND TO THE STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS AND AN ITEM MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS FOR THIS? WE RECEIVED NO COMMENTS, SIR.

THERE ARE NO WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

WE'RE NOT

[8. City of El Cajon Sewer Tax Roll Fees Report for Fiscal Year 2021-2022 RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council: Opens the Public Hearing and receives testimony; Closes the Public Hearing; Determines if a majority protest has been received; and (if not) Adopts the next Resolution, in order, to: Determine the lack of majority protest; Overrule objections to the report; Accept the City of El Cajon Sewer Tax Roll Fiscal Year 2021-2022 Fees report, which identifies by parcel number, each parcel of real property receiving sewer services, and the amount of sewer charges for each parcel for Fiscal Year 2021-2022, as required by the California Health and Safety Code section 5473, et seq., pertaining to collection of sewer charges on the tax roll; Direct the City Clerk to file the reports with the San Diego County Auditor; and Direct the City Finance Department to file a certification of the sewer service charges with the San Diego County Auditor.]

WE HAVE ONE ITEM TO CONSIDER ITEM EIGHT IS FOR THE SOAR TAX ROLL FEES REPORT.

AND I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR STAFF TO TELL US ABOUT THIS.

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ALL RIGHT, GOOD AFTERNOON.

HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M BLAKE BERENGER ASSOCIATE ENGINEER RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CITY'S WASTEWATER PROGRAM ON MAY 12TH, 2020.

THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTED THE RESOLUTION THAT PROVIDED THE OVERALL LOWEST COST OPTION TO BILL SEWER SERVICES ON THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY TAX ROLL.

WE'RE HERE TODAY TO PRESENT FOR ADOPTION, THE UPDATED CITY OF ALCOHOL AND SEWER TAX ROLL FEES REPORT FOR OUR FISCAL YEAR 2122.

THIS REPORT IDENTIFIES BY PARCEL NUMBER EACH PARCEL OF REAL PROPERTY RECEIVING SEWER SERVICES AND THE AMOUNT OF THE SEWER CHARGES FOR EACH PARCEL ADOPTION OF THIS REPORT PROVIDES THE CITY OF THE ABILITY TO COLLECT SEWER CHARGES ANNUALLY AS A LINE ITEM ON THE ANNUAL PROPERTY TAX BILL FOR THE VAST MAJORITY OF OUR CUSTOMERS.

DURING THIS PRESENTATION, WE WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH A BRIEF UPDATE OF THE PROGRAM AND A SUMMARY OF THE CURRENT CHARGES.

MULTIPLE WEB PAGES OF THE WEBSITE WERE REDESIGNED LAST YEAR IN EFFORTS TO PROVIDE UPDATED INFORMATION TO THE PUBLIC.

THESE HAVE ALL BEEN UPDATED AGAIN THIS YEAR FOR THE NEW FISCAL YEAR AHEAD.

THE CITY'S MAIN SEWER PAGE NOW@ALCOHOL.GOV FORWARD SLASH SEWER INCLUDES A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF OUR WASTEWATER PROGRAM AND UPDATED INFORMATION ON THE CURRENT SEWER BILLING PRACTICES.

THIS PAGE ALSO CONTAINS VISUAL BUTTONS FOR EASY NAVIGATION TO FURTHER SPECIFIC INFORMATION ON THE WASTEWATER PROGRAM AND SEWER BILLING PRACTICES.

A SEWER BILLING WEBPAGE WAS FORMED LAST YEAR WITH ADDITIONAL VISUAL BUTTONS, REDIRECTING CUSTOMERS TO MORE FOCUSED PAGES, INCLUDING INFORMATION TAILORED TO PROPERTY OWNERS, RENTERS HOS AS WELL AS THE SEWER ACCOUNT LOOKUP TOOL, WHICH WE'LL SEE NEXT.

UH, THE GIS BASED SEWER LOOKUP TOOL WAS BUILT LAST YEAR TO ALLOW OUR CUSTOMERS TO SEARCH ONLINE BY ADDRESS APN OR SEWER OR ACCOUNT NUMBER TO RETRIEVE THEIR CURRENT SEWER BILLING INFORMATION.

THE UPDATES TO THE TOOL WERE DONE THIS YEAR TO INCLUDE THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR 22 CHARGES WHILE ALSO ALLOWING CUSTOMERS TO STILL SEE THEIR PREVIOUS CHARGES AND USE IT AS A COMPARISON TOOL.

OUR FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS PAGE IS CONSTANTLY UPDATED BY STAFF AS THEY RECEIVE ADDITIONAL INQUIRIES, VIA EMAIL, TEXT MESSAGE, TELEPHONE VOICEMAIL, AND OTHER COMMENTS ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

SO OUR BILLING METHODOLOGY HAS NOT CHANGED FROM WHAT IT WAS BEFORE TAX ROLL.

UH, THE ASSESSMENT FOR THE BILLING PERIOD OF THIS YEAR FOR JULY 1ST, 2021 THROUGH JUNE 30TH, 2022 IS STILL BASED ON ACTUAL CONSUMPTION FOR ALL ACCOUNTS.

IN 2019, THE COUNCIL HAD APPROVED FIVE YEARS OF ANNUAL RATE INCREASES.

AND AS AN EXAMPLE, UM, AS OF JULY 1ST, THE MOST RECENT RATE INCREASE WENT INTO EFFECT.

AND THE UPDATED RATE FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES INCLUDES A MONTHLY BASE CHARGE OF $17 AND 15 CENTS AND A PER UNIT, A USAGE CHARGE OF $5 AND 53 CENTS AND AVERAGE, UM, ANNUAL SINGLE FAMILY.

RESIDENTIAL CHARGE IS $753 AND 26 CENTS THIS YEAR, WHICH BREAKS DOWN TO ABOUT $62 AND 77 CENTS A MONTH.

UH, ALSO INCLUDED THIS YEAR IS A LITTLE BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING.

UH, ABOUT 1800 ACCOUNTS STILL HAVE CHARGES REMAINING IN THE PREVIOUS BILLING SYSTEM THAT ARE UNPAID FOR SEWER SERVICES THAT WERE RENDERED BEFORE OUR TAX ROLL TRANSITION LAST YEAR AS A COURTESY, NO MAY CHARGES HAVE BEEN ATTACHED TO THESE BALANCES, BUT THE BALANCES WILL BE INCLUDED WITH THE ASSESSMENTS THIS YEAR.

UH, AS FAR AS THE HOA HAS GO.

AND THE FIRST YEAR

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AND WE INCLUDED A LETTER WITH THE HANDBILLS THAT DIRECTED THE HOA TO OUR ONLINE FORM THAT THEY COULD FILL OUT TO HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TRANSITION THOSE ACCOUNTS AS WELL TO THE TAX ROLL FOR THE EASE OF COLLECTING THE CHARGES.

NOW IN YEAR TWO, UH, WITH THE INFORMATION FROM THOSE SURVEYS AND WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH 42 HOS, UH, WE'VE CONVERTED THOSE 42 HOS TO TAX ROLL BILLING, WHICH ALLOWS US TO DIRECT ME CHARGE OVER 1100 ADDITIONAL PROPERTY OWNERS INSTEAD OF GOING WITH THE HANDBILL ROUTE.

AND THAT ACCOUNTS FOR OVER $700,000 OF SEWER CHARGES OVER THE NEXT YEAR, WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO CONTACT THE OTHER HOS AND TRY TO CONVERT AS MANY OF THOSE AS ARE APPLICABLE TO TAX ROLL AS WELL.

SO THESE ARE JUST SOME HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE ENGINEER'S REPORT THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED AND ARE, IS UP FOR, UM, ACCEPTANCE TODAY.

THE TOTAL REVENUE THAT WE'RE EXPECTING FOR THIS YEAR FOR SEWER CHARGES IS NEARLY $27 MILLION.

UH, 24,600,000 OF THAT WILL BE COLLECTED ON TAX ROLL.

AND ABOUT 2.3 MILLION ON, UH, HANDBILLS STILL THE HANDBILLS AGAIN INCLUDE GOVERNMENT AGENCIES, SUCH AS SCHOOLS, THE COUNTY BUILDINGS, UH, CALTRANS, OTHER ONES LIKE THAT.

UM, AND THEN WE HAVE THE CHARGES ALSO BROKEN DOWN BY TYPE, UH, THIS YEAR WE DID SEE THAT COMMERCIAL USAGE WAS MUCH LOWER DUE TO COVID AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES, AND MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENCES WERE HIGHER BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE IN THEIR HOMES MORE OFTEN THIS YEAR.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU, COUNSEL, LIKE THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION.

SO, UH, IT USED TO BE THERE AS A, UH, THE FIXED PART AND THE VARIABLE PART.

YES.

SO NOW WE HAVE THIS FIXED PART OF $17 AND 15 CENTS.

IS THAT PER MONTH, OR IS THAT ONE TIME WHEN WE DO, WHEN WE'RE COMPUTING AN ANNUAL TAX BILL, IS IT 17, 15 TIMES 12, PLUS THE PLUS THE VARIABLE ALL LOOK TO THE CITY MANAGER AND HAVE HIM POINT ME TO THE RIGHT PLACE.

THAT'S CORRECT.

THAT'S THE MONTHLY FEE.

AND THEN IT'S ANNUALIZED BY MULTIPLYING IT BY 12.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MORE QUESTIONS.

I'M JUST CURIOUS.

WE, WE COLLECT ABOUT $26 MILLION A YEAR IN TAXES.

WHAT IS THE BUDGET? UH, IT EXPENSES FOR THE SAME YEAR.

THIS, THIS IS BUILT BASED ON THE EXPENSES THAT WE HAVE, BUT ALSO WHEN THE FIVE-YEAR RATE STUDY WAS, UM, APPROVED IN 2019, IT OUT OUTLINED THE RESERVES THAT WE NEEDED TO BUILD UP, TO MEET THOSE INDUSTRY STANDARDS.

SO IT'S MOSTLY TO MEET OUR ANNUAL REQUIREMENTS, BUT WE DO HAVE A SMALL AMOUNT OF SET ASIDE FOR THAT RESERVE.

YEAH.

I JUST WANT TO REASSURE THE PUBLIC THAT THIS IS A PASS THROUGH.

WE'RE NOT SAVING MONEY AND PUTTING MONEY INTO THE GENERAL FUND.

UM, NO, THIS IS ALL SEWER REVENUE DEDICATED TO SEWER IMPROVEMENTS, ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS THAT ARE ALL SEWER RELATED.

AND THOSE, I THINK STEVE'S GOT ANOTHER QUESTION.

SO ON THE RESERVES FOR THE, FOR THE INTEREST OF THE PUBLIC, WE KEEP A RESERVE FOR WHEN, UM, UNEXPECTED AND PERHAPS EVEN CATASTROPHIC CATASTROPHIC EVENTS HAPPENED.

WE HAVE A SAVINGS ACCOUNT TO HELP PAY FOR DIGGING UP THE STREET, FIXING THE PIPE, REPAIRING IT, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

IS THAT WHAT THE RESERVE IS USED FOR? CORRECT.

OKAY.

YEAH, IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT SAVINGS ACCOUNT, THEN THAT REPAIR WOULD HAVE TO COME OUT OF THE GENERAL BUDGET AND SOMETHING ELSE WOULD HAVE TO BE CUT.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND I BELIEVE THAT RESERVE IS, UH, IS REQUIRED BY LAW.

THERE ARE CERTAIN AMOUNTS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY LAW, ESPECIALLY IF WE HAVE A NUMBER OF, UM, LOANS THAT WE HAVE TO PAY BACK, WE HAVE TO COVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT.

OKAY.

AND MR. GOBLE, THE, THE OTHER, THE OTHER ISSUE IS SOME CITIES THAT DON'T HAVE THAT RESERVE AND ARE USING.

AND WE USE OUR RESERVES

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SO, UM, THE, THEIR RATE PAYERS ARE NOT ONLY PAYING FOR THE COST OF THAT THROUGH, UM, PAYING THE DEBT SERVICE, BUT THEY'RE ALSO PAYING INTEREST ON TOP OF THAT.

SO THIS IS, THIS ENDS UP SAVING OUR RESIDENTS MORE IN THE LONG RUN.

WELL, LET'S TALK ABOUT THOSE REPAIRS FOR A SECOND BECAUSE I DON'T THINK MANY PEOPLE IN OKLAHOMA KNOW THAT, UM, I, I BELIEVE THERE ARE STILL SIX INCH DIAMETER CLAY PIPES UNDERNEATH OUR STREETS FROM THE SIXTIES THAT IS STILL PART OF OUR SEWER SYSTEM.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES, DEFINITELY.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SITTING ON.

ARE THESE SIX INCH DIAMETER CLAY PIPES? I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, UH, LINEAL STREET MILES WE HAVE OF THOSE THINGS, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE SOONER OR LATER, CORRECT.

THERE'S A SYSTEMATIC WAY.

I MEAN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR ACTUALLY ONGOING IS WE CAMERA EVERY SINGLE PIPE WE HAVE.

SO IF WE CAN DETECT THE LEAK, WHETHER IT'S A NEW PIPE OR AN OLD PIPE, WE KNOW THAT WE CAN TAKE CARE OF THAT REPAIR.

AND IT'S MUCH CHEAPER TO TAKE CARE OF IT SOONER THAN LATER, BUT YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.

UM, THERE'S A SYSTEMATIC WAY TO SLOWLY REPLACE ALL THIS OLD CLAY PIPE.

AND THAT DOES TAKE TIME AND MONEY.

IF I DO REMEMBER IT MIGHT'VE BEEN TWO YEARS AGO, NOW THAT THE EARTH COLLAPSED ON TOP OF ONE OF THESE SIX INCH PIPES BLOCKING THE SEWAGE, BACKED UP INTO A RESIDENCE HOME, THE RESIDENT HAD TO BE EVACUATED AND IT WAS A VERY EXPENSIVE, UH, REPAIR AND ACCOMMODATION.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

A QUESTION ABOUT THE RESERVES.

IF, IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, BEFORE WE CONFIRM THE RATE INCREASE WERE OUR SEWER RESERVES LOW BELOW A CERTAIN AMOUNT WHERE THEY INSUFFICIENT.

AND THAT WAS PART OF THE REASON WHY WE APPROVED THE INCREASE.

DOES ANYONE KNOW? YES.

SO WE WERE, THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY LOW, BUT AT THE RATE THAT WE WERE CHARGING THE RATE PAYER, IF WE WERE TO CONTINUE TO SPEND AT THE RATE, WE WERE, AND REMEMBER THE MAJORITY OF OUR EXPENDITURES ARE TO METRO OR THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO FOR TREATMENT.

UM, AND ASSUMING WE WERE TO KEEP UP WITH A BASIC MAINTENANCE, WE WOULD HAVE DEPLETED OUR RESERVES WITHIN A FEW YEARS.

SO THAT WAS THE REASON WHY THERE WAS A NEED TO NOT ONLY INCREASE THE RATES TO ONE COVER THE COSTS OF THE INCREASES FROM SAN DIEGO, PARTLY BECAUSE OF THE PURE WATER PROGRAM.

UM, BUT ALSO TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDS TO THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AHEAD OF TIME, WHICH ARE END UP BEING CHEAPER IN THE LONG RUN.

SO HE'S YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.

UM, DID WE EVER RESOLVE THE ISSUE WITH THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO ON THE, HOW MUCH THEY SAID THEY THOUGHT WE OWED THEM? I'LL LOOK TO BLAKE, BUT I BELIEVE WE GOT THAT SETTLEMENT.

I'M LOOKING AT MS. ARIANA ON THE BACK.

SHE SAYS, YES, WE HAVE A SETTLEMENT WITH THEM.

OKAY.

IT WAS GOOD FOR US TOO.

WOW.

GREAT, GOOD JOB.

OKAY.

THANKS.

ALL RIGHT.

BROUGHT UP A GOOD DISCUSSION.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW OPEN.

ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKER CARDS ON THIS ITEM? WE RECEIVED NO COMMENTS, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

THEN I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

PLEASE VOTE MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

ALRIGHT.

IF THERE'S NO DISCUSSION, UH, BE GREAT.

IF SOMEBODY WOULD PROCEED WITH A MOTION I'LL THAT WE ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION IN ORDER AS OUTLINED IN THE STAFF REPORT.

ALL RIGHT, PLEASE VOTE MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE TWO ADMINISTRATIVE REPORTS

[9. Mother Goose Parade Association Sponsorship and In-Kind Support RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council approves the request from the Mother Goose Parade Association to participate as a sponsor and provide in-kind support for the 2021 Mother Goose Parade.]

I HAVE NINE AS REQUESTS FROM THE MOTHER GOOSE PARADE ASSOCIATION.

I LIKE TO ASK STAFF TO PLEASE INTRODUCE THIS ITEM.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

I JUST WANT TO BRIEFLY INTRODUCE THE 75TH ANNUAL MOTHER GOOSE PREY TO YOU.

SO IN 2020, THERE'S A, JUST A QUICK RECAP.

UH, IT WAS A VIRTUAL PARADE THAT WAS ALSO FEATURED AND PARTNERED WITH ABC CHANNEL 10.

UH, AND THERE'S BEEN OVER 150,000 VIEWS ONLINE OF THAT VIRTUAL PARADE THAT A LOT OF SUCCESS FROM THAT.

AND I KNOW MR. PRIESTS WILL BE HERE IN JUST A SECOND TO ALSO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT.

UM, WHAT IS GOING ON FOR THE 75TH ANNUAL MOTHER WHO'S PRAYED ON SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 21ST, 2021 IS THEY HAVE NEW SPONSORS.

THERE'LL BE A LOT MORE NEW BALLOONS AND NEW FLOATS THEY'RE REINVESTING IN

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UH, THERE'LL BE A FLY OVER LIVE BANDS.

AND, UM, THEY'RE PLANNING ON MARK GRANT, UH, BEING THE GRAND MARSHALL AND POTENTIALLY JOE MUSGROVE AS THE, UH, HONORARY GRAND MARSHALL.

I WANTED TO BE FUNNY AND THROWING A PHOTO FROM 1985, A CORPORAL CARSON RIGHT THERE, MARCHING THE MOTHER WHOSE PARADE ON A RAINY DAY.

I SAW MORGAN TURN HIS HEAD AROUND REAL QUICK.

SO HE, HE, THE ROTC, UH, AS THE HIGH SCHOOL I WENT TO.

YEAH, I, AND THEY HAVE THE RECOMMENDATION UP THERE, BUT I WANT TO INVITE THE PRESIDENT OF THE MOTHER'S PARADE ASSOCIATION.

MR. PRE-STEP HERE.

HEY, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT I'VE BEEN THE PRESIDENT NOW FOR SEVEN YEARS.

I'VE NEVER REALLY SPOKE TO YOU ABOUT IT.

YOU KNOW, SO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE NEAT THING ABOUT THE MOTHER GOOSE PARADE IS WE'RE ACTUALLY TRANSITIONING INTO THE NEXT CENTURY.

WE'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB.

YOU KNOW, THE PARADE, AS YOU KNOW, STARTED IN 1947 BY TOM, AND HE WAS A BUSINESS OWNER.

HIS WIFE HAD A DRESS SHOP AND ALCOHOL IN 1947.

I THINK THERE WAS ACTUALLY ABOUT 2,500 PEOPLE ACTUALLY LIVED IN THE CITY OF ALCOHOL.

AND AT THAT TIME, THE PARADE WENT THROUGH A TREMENDOUS GROWTH PERIOD BECAUSE PARADES WERE REAL POPULAR.

AND THEN OF COURSE THE INTERNET HAPPENED AND ALL THAT.

AND SO WE HAD TO CHANGE THE PARADE.

I THINK WHEN I TOOK IT OVER IN THE LAST PARADE, I, THAT BEFORE I GOT THERE, WE MIGHT'VE HAD 2,500 PEOPLE THERE.

I THINK SOME OF YOU THAT WERE IN THAT PARADE ON SATURDAY AT A FEW MEMBER, BUT YOU, YOU TURNED ON W TH THEY CHANGED THE PARADE ROUTE.

THEY WENT TO PARKWAY PLAZA, AND YOU TURNED ON JOHNSON FROM MAIN STREET.

AND THERE WASN'T TWO PEOPLE ON THAT ROAD.

I ACTUALLY WENT AND VIDEOED IT.

SO WHAT WE DID IS WE OVERHAULED THE PARADE IN 2015, AND I SAID, HEY, LET'S GET BACK TO WHAT THE PARADE OR THE GROUP, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE ABOUT ROBOT KIDS, RIGHT? WE'RE A KID'S PARADE.

SO WE GOT RID OF ALL THE ADULT STUFF, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS WE COULD CAUSE KIDS LIKE STUFF THAT FLOATS AND BLOWS UP AND EXCITING TO THEM.

AND SO I SAID, LET'S LOOK AT THE PARADE NOW IS AS IF WE'RE 10 YEAR OLD AND 12 YEAR OLDS.

CAUSE A LOT OF THE PEOPLE ON MY BOARD ACTUALLY ARE BORN AND RAISED HERE AND REMEMBER GOING TO THE PARADE IN THE FIFTIES, SIXTIES, SEVENTIES, EIGHTIES, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT WAS GOING GOOD.

I THINK LAST YEAR WE LEGITIMATELY HAD BETWEEN 45 AND 50,000 PEOPLE IF YOU WERE THERE.

SO YOU SEE WE'RE STEADILY BUILDING.

NOW WHEN DEBRA CHANDLER, WHO I WENT TO ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WD HALL WITH AND STILL LIVES IN OLIVE HILLS, SHE SAID, HEY, LET'S DO A VIRTUAL PARADE THIS YEAR.

AND I WAS KIND OF SKEPTICAL.

I SAID, YOU KNOW, WHO'S GOING TO WATCH THE MOTHER GOOSE PARADE ON THIS VIRTUAL THING AND EVERYBODY'S DOING ALL THIS STUFF, BUT WE WENT AHEAD AND GOT MARK GRANT.

WE DID THE PARADE.

WE, WE PARTNERED WITH ABC NEWS AND THEY SAID, LISTEN, IF YOU GET 5,000 VIEWS WILL BE A STATIC.

AND THEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT THE VIEW COUNTER.

I MEAN, IT WAS 10,000 15, 20 30, AND I, AND, AND, AND ABC NEWS, I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THEIR COUNTER WAS BROKE OR THEY WERE DOING SOMETHING WRONG AND IT KEPT GOING AND GOT ALL THE WAY UP TO 150,000 PEOPLE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY PROUD TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY BECAUSE REALLY IT'S YOUR PARADE.

I MEAN, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THIS IS YOUR CITY AND WITHOUT YOU, AND WITHOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THERE IS NO PARADE.

YOU KNOW, IF WE EVER LOSE THE PARTNERSHIP WITH EITHER ONE OF YOU, LIKE I SAID, THE CITY AND ESPECIALLY THE POLICE, THE POLICE DO A FANTASTIC JOB.

THEY ALL COME AND VOLUNTEER WHERE WE'RE STILL THE ONLY PARADE WHERE THE OFFICERS COME, THEY VOLUNTEER, THEY JUST DO A WONDERFUL JOB.

I THINK THERE WAS 140, 150 VOLUNTEERS THAT, THAT DO IT.

AND SO, AGAIN, WITHOUT YOU, WE CAN'T DO IT.

AND WE'RE JUST HOPING TO MAKE IT BIGGER AND BETTER IN A, IN A POSITIVE THING.

WE'RE THE LARGEST PARADE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.

AND WE'RE ALSO THE OLDEST CONTINUOUS PRAYED IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.

SO ACTUALLY THIS IS OUR 75TH PARADE, BUT IT'LL BE OUR 76TH YEAR.

CAUSE IT, CAUSE WE MISS LAST YEAR, OF COURSE.

BUT AGAIN, WE HAD 150,000 VIEWS, WHICH IS FANTASTIC.

SO, UH, AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

YOU'VE BEEN FANTASTIC PARTNERS AGAIN, YOU AND THE POLICE, AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE FIRST OFF, JOE, THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.

I KNOW YOU, UH, HAVE A COUPLE OTHER THINGS GOING.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.

PERFECT EXAMPLE.

DO YOU WANT TO GET SOMEBODY, THEN YOU ASK THE BUSIEST PERSON, YOU KNOW? YEAH.

BUT YOU KNOW, YOU DO, YOU DO A GREAT JOB AND YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF VISION JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE YOU DO.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

YEAH.

GREAT QUESTIONS.

YEAH.

AND I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO BE BORN AND RAISED HERE AND I'M NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO BURY ME SOMEPLACE OUT BY SINGING HILLS.

I THINK I'M GOING TO BE, SO I REMEMBER HOPEFULLY I'M AROUND FOR THE A HUNDRED YEAR.

I HOPE, BUT IF I'M NOT, SO YEAH.

YEAH.

W WHAT WAS THE LAST TIME YOU WAS THE EARLIEST MEMORY OF YOU GOING TO THE PARADE? I, MINE WAS 1966 FOR MINE WAS 1963.

AND THE ONLY REASON I REMEMBER IT WAS THE YEAR THAT KENNEDY GOT SHOT AND POSTPONED IT FOR A COUPLE IN, UH, FOR LIKE TWO WEEKS.

SO IT WAS LATER.

AND THE ONLY REASON IT JOGGED MY MEMORY IS MY PARENTS.

I REMEMBER THAT THAT WAS PROBABLY MY OLDEST, YOU KNOW, MEMORY THAT I HAVE REALLY SPECIFIC.

AND, AND WE USED TO PARK IF ANYBODY REMEMBERS THE OLD EL CAHONE BOWLING ALLEY, CAUSE THE PARADE WOULD TURN DOWN SECOND STREET RIGHT THERE.

AND AN

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SO YOU COULD BACK YOUR TRUCK IN THERE.

AND MY DAD WAS A GOOD BOWLER.

SO W HE, HE WOULD ACTUALLY, IT WAS SO PACKED BACK THEN THAT HE WOULD TAKE THE TRUCK THE NIGHT BEFORE, AND THEN WE'D ACTUALLY GET THERE AT EIGHT O'CLOCK AND BARBECUE OR IN THE MORNING FOR THE PARADE, THE PARADE BACK THEN STARTED AT 11, BUT WE GOT THERE SUPER EARLY, HAD BREAKFAST.

AND I MEAN, IT WAS JUST AN ALL DAY EVENT.

AND THEN OF COURSE WE LISTENED TO THE CHARGER GAME ON OUR TRANSISTOR RADIOS BECAUSE IT WAS ON A SUNDAY.

AND OF COURSE CAN'T MISS THE CHARGER GAME BACK THEN.

AND, AND THAT'S A GOOD OLD DAYS WITH PAUL LO AND KEEP LINCOLN AND LANCE HALLWORTH AND ALL THAT.

SO I'M KIND OF DATING MYSELF.

I'M STARTING TO SOUND LIKE AN OLD GUY, BUT, BUT YEAH, THAT'S, MY OLDEST MEMORY WAS 1963.

GOT ME BEAT, BUT, UH, OKAY.

THAT WAS GREAT.

OKAY.

AND AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

GO AHEAD.

GOOD.

OH, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S FINISH THIS ITEM AND THEN I'LL HAVE YOU COME UP.

YEAH, SURE.

SO, OKAY.

SO HEY, GREAT JOB.

YOU'LL LET US KNOW WHAT WE CAN, I CAN DO TO HELP.

OKAY.

NO, YOU ALREADY DO A GREAT JOB.

JUST KEEP CONTINUE.

WILL IT WILL BE A GOOD PARTNER.

YOU GUYS BE A GOOD PARTNER.

WE'LL KEEP THIS PARADE GOING FOR, FOR HOPEFULLY PAST MY LIFETIME.

THANK GOD.

THAT'S GREAT.

OKAY.

UM, LET'S SEE.

WHAT'S NEXT? SO CITY COUNCIL, WE'RE LOOKING FOR, UM, APPROVAL TO PROVIDE, UM, SPONSORSHIP IN THE AMOUNT OF $20,000 AND THEN $24,000 IN IN-KIND SERVICES.

THAT'S GOOD.

OKAY, GREAT.

UM, BEFORE WE GET TO THAT, ANGELA, DO WE HAVE ANY SPIRIT CARDS ON THE ITEM? NO, SIR.

NO CARDS WE'LL RECEIVE.

OKAY.

SO I THINK EVERYBODY KNOW WHAT WE NEED AND HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT DESERVED.

SO MOVE TO, UH, SPONSOR AND PROVIDE THE INCOME AND SUPPORT.

ALL RIGHT.

PLEASE VOTE MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.

OKAY.

THANKS GERALD.

THANKS EVERYBODY.

DARYL, COULD YOU JUST QUICKLY TELL US WHO YOUR TEAM IS? EVERYBODY HERE FROM THE NO, NO.

I'VE ACTUALLY WORKED SO HARD THAT I DIDN'T WANT TO DRAG THEM TO THIS SITE.

I GET A LOT OF THE CREDIT, BUT THEY DO ALL THE HARD WORK.

TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.

I MEAN, I'VE GOT A TEAM OF VOLUNTEERS THAT JUST LOVE ALCOHOL AND THEY LOVE THE PARADE THEY'VE BEEN IN.

IT KIND OF LIKE FRANK WAS, YOU KNOW, THEY, YOU KNOW, I WAS IN IT IN 1963 AND SO THEY JUST WORKED THEIR TAILS OFF.

AND SO IT'S JUST ME TODAY, BUT THEY'RE THERE THEY'RE THERE.

IT LITERALLY TAKES HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE TO PULL THE PLUG.

I BET.

THANKS.

THANKS, JOE.

IMAM.

COME ON, COME ON DOWN.

UM, SO WE HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, DO I NEED TO REOPEN A HEARING? I, I WANT TO GIVE HER A CHANCE TO SPEAK YET.

TECHNICALLY THE PUBLIC HEARING IS FOR THE PURPOSE OF, UM, ANYBODY TO PROTEST FOR PLACING THE SEWER FEES.

IT'S NOT A TAX SEWER FEES ON THE, UM, ON THE PROPERTY TAX ROLL.

WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR AFTER MOVING TO THE TAX ROLL COLLECTION SERVICE.

SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO ENTERTAIN, IT WILL NEED TO SEEK, UM, A REOPENING OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION AND THE SECOND AND THE VOTE AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF.

AND IN RIO ONE, I HEAR WHAT SHE HAS TO SAY ON HER PUBLICAN PUBLIC COMMENTS.

YOU CAN, YOU COULD ACCEPT HER YOUR STATEMENT, UH, BUT YOU'VE ALREADY TAKEN THE ACTION ON KATHY.

SO, UM, I'M GOING TO REOPEN PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THANK YOU.

YEAH, THAT'D BE VERY NICE.

AS I MENTIONED, I'M BEEN A RESIDENT OF, UM, CITY OF ALCOHOL FOR 53 AND A HALF YEARS IN THE SAME HOME IN FLETCHER HILLS.

YOU JUST MENTIONED MR. FOLEY CITY ATTORNEY, THAT THIS IS NOT ABOUT A TAX, EXCEPT THAT THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA MADE THE DECISION AFTER BILLING US.

SO EVERY OTHER MONTH, AND THEN FARMING IT OUT TO SOMEBODY IN ARIZONA, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.

I WON'T REHASH ALL THAT, BUT WE'RE RESIDENTS.

WE LIVE IN SIMPLE TRACT HOUSING IN THE RELATIVELY REASONABLY EX PART OF FLETCHER HILLS, NOT THE PAST FANCY HACIENDA PART AND, UM, OUR FEES FOR OUR ATTACHMENT TO THE SEWER OR THE USE, OR THE PRIVILEGE OF THE USE OF THE SEWERS.

NOW BEING ATTACHED TO OUR PROPERTY TAX, WHICH IS OF COURSE, THIS

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WHAT HAVE YOU, UM, DON'T HAVE TO REMIND ANY OF YOU THAT WE'RE IN A DROUGHT SOMEHOW.

I DON'T KNOW WHY THE CITY OF ALCOHOL HAS DECIDED SOMEBODY OR ALL OF YOU, UH, THAT THE WATER USAGE IS BASED ON OUR SO-CALLED WINTER USE, WHICH IS NOVEMBER TO APRIL.

WELL, WE HAVEN'T HAD A WINTER IN A LONG TIME.

COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, WE HAD A BIT OF, BUT THIS YEAR WE'VE HAD THREE INCHES, MY PROPERTY TAX, AND I LIVE IN A MODEST 1400 SQUARE FOOT HOME.

I AM 75 YEARS OLD AND I AM THE CAREGIVER FOR A SON WHO HAS HAD FOUR STROKES IN ONE DAY AT AGE 45.

SO BEFORE THE PANDEMIC HIT, THIS HAPPENED SEVEN YEARS AGO.

SO WE'VE LIVED KIND OF A PANDEMIC LIFE ALL THIS TIME.

SO WHEN I WENT WITH MY DEAR NEIGHBORS THAT ARE WITH ME TO SPEAK TO THE PEOPLE IN THE OTHER BUILDING TO SUPPOSEDLY EXPLAIN MY, MY BILL, I JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT, THAT MY PROPERTY TAX LAST YEAR WENT, IF YOU SPLIT IT UP BETWEEN THE TWO PAYMENTS, WHICH I IMAGINE A LOT OF PEOPLE DO, UH, IT WAS A THOUSAND DOLLARS AND 24, 1020 $4 TWICE.

SO THAT'S 2040 $8.

THE FOLLOWING YEAR, IT WENT UP BY ALMOST $800.

I HAVE YET TO RECEIVE MY NEW STATEMENT FROM THE MR. MCALLISTER THAT HANDLES THE PROPERTY TAX FEE.

BUT I RECEIVED A STATEMENT FROM THE CITY OF ALCOHOL AND IT IS NOW GOING TO ADD INSTEAD OF 775, ROUGHLY IT'S NOW ADDING 1,257.

OKAY.

SO I KNOW I'M REALLY CHATTY.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO EDIT MYSELF.

I HAD A SLAB LEAK, LUCKY ME, YOU KNOW, YOU LIVE IN CALIFORNIA WHERE FOR SOME REASON, THE PEOPLE BACK EAST DON'T UNDERSTAND, BUT WE RUN OUR PIPES UNDERNEATH OUR HOUSES ON OUR SLABS.

SO THE SLAB LEAK TOOK MULTIPLE TIMES TO DISCOVER MULTIPLE TIMES TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS CAUSING IT.

AND IT, AFTER $7,000 IN RIPPING AN ENTIRE WALL OUT TO SALVAGE A BATHROOM THAT I HAD JUST REMODELED A FEW YEARS EARLIER, I WAS $7,000 OUT, BUT I'M NOW REPIPING IT ALL THE WAY UP THROUGH THE ATTIC.

AND I WON'T HAVE ANY MORE SLAB LEAKS, BUT I AM NOW GOING TO BE PAYING AN ADDITIONAL $1,257 A YEAR.

AND I WAS TOLD BY THE LOVELY YOUNG LADY HOPE THAT THIS IS THE YEAR THREE OF FIVE YEARS.

NOW, I HEARD YOU DISCUSSING WHILE WE HAD TO KEEP, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE MAINTENANCE.

WE HAD TO KEEP A RESERVE, OR WE HAD SOMEBODY HOUSE FALL ON SOMETHING.

I OCCASIONALLY WATCH THE LOCAL NEWS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE IN MISSION HILLS, PEOPLE THAT ARE IN ROWS OFF OF ROSECRANS.

THEY HAVE MUCH OLDER PIPES.

THE TYPE THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I THINK ONE OF YOU MAY BE ONE OF THE SIX INCH CLAY PIPES YOU'RE TALKING TO US.

OKAY.

SO I UNDERSTAND ALCOHOL BEEN HERE LONGER THAN MY 53 YEARS AS A RESIDENT.

SO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.

AS I DROVE DOWN HERE, HELIX HAS SIGNS POSTED IN THERE TAKING STEP BY STEP BY STEP OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

AND THEY'RE REPLACING ALL OF THESE IN SEGMENTS SO THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE DISASTER THAT SAN DIEGO DID.

SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS THE EXPLANATION THAT I GOT WAS ABSOLUTELY LESS THAN SATISFACTORY.

IT WAS A LOT OF, WELL, YOUR WINTER USES THIS BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

I SHOWED HER MY BILL FROM HELIX WATER, NOT MY PROPERTY TAX BILL, WHERE THE MONTH THAT THE W THAT THE LEAK WAS OCCURRED, THAT IT WENT LIKE THIS, AND IT WENT UP 86%.

I'M GOING TO SAY THAT AGAIN, 86%.

NOW THERE'S TWO OF US.

I'M A WIDOW.

AND I HAVE THIS 53 YEAR OLD SON IS A STROKE SURVIVOR AND HAS HUGE POSITIVE ATTITUDES WORKS THREE DAYS A WEEK, TRIES REALLY HARD TO HELP OUT, BUT THIS IS A PHENOMENALLY UNBELIEVABLE BURDEN.

NOW I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THERE'S SOMEBODY ON THE WEBSITE THAT I CAN GO TO AND HAVE THEM COME OUT AND ASSESS IT, ET CETERA.

BUT I'M REALLY EMBARRASSED FOR THE PEOPLE ON MY STREET, OTHER THAN MY TWO DARLING NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS THAT ARE HERE WITH ME, THAT MANY OTHER PEOPLE ARE NOT HERE AT THIS MEETING, BECAUSE THIS IS A PHENOMENAL INCREASE.

AND I DON'T, I'M TRYING TO BE RESPECTFUL, BUT I DO NOT

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IT WAS ON AGAIN, OFF AGAIN.

AND THEN IT WAS FARMED OUT TO ARIZONA, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU GUYS HAVE JUST DECIDED, WELL, LAST YEAR, WE'RE THROWING IT ON THE PROPERTY TAX.

WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST? I DO A COUPLE OF THINGS, UH, FIRST OFF, UH, YOU'RE RIGHT? THAT SILLY SEWER BILL BILLING WAS ERRATIC AND PROBLEMATIC FOR THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

AND THAT'S WHY WE RELUCTANTLY CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT WE HAD TO PUT ON THE PROPERTY TAXES.

LIKE EVERY OTHER CITY IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY IS, BUT US, WE WERE THE LAST HOLDOUTS.

WE WERE TRYING TO BUILD IT OURSELVES, BUT WE COULDN'T FIND A COMPANY THAT COULD DO IT, AND WE COULD DO IT IN THE HOUSE, BUT IT WAS GOING TO COST SO MUCH MONEY.

IT WOULD BE A BAR.

WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE A BURDEN ON THE TAXPAYERS TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAD HOURS OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS IN, IN COUNCIL.

AND WE FINALLY DECIDED THAT THE BEST THING TO DO IS PUT ON THE PROPERTY TAX ROLLS.

NOW, HAVING SAID THAT TO YOUR PROBLEM, UM, THAT IS A UNIQUE PROBLEM HAVING, HAVING A SLAB WEEK.

AND I FEEL FOR YOU, I HAD A SIMILAR THING HAPPENED WITH ME, WHERE I WAS HAVING, UM, A THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH WATER BILLS, ALL OF A SUDDEN.

AND IT WAS JUST HORRIBLE UNTIL I FIGURED IT OUT.

SO I'M GOING TO ASK GRAHAM, IF THERE'S SOMETHING HE COULD DO TO WORK WITH, UH, WITH YOU CERTAINLY CAN ALWAYS LOOK AT AVERAGE BILLING PRE, UM, SLAB LEAK.

SO WHAT I'D RECOMMEND MA'AM IS THAT YOU TALK TO MS. ADIANO, MS. ADIANO, CAN YOU RAISE YOUR HAND RIGHT THERE IN THE BACK? SHE'S THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS.

SO, UM, TALK TO HER AND WE'LL HELP YOU FIGURE THIS OUT.

NOW, IF FOR SOME REASON YOU'RE NOT SATISFIED WITH THIS, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND TALK TO US AGAIN.

OUR GOAL IS TO TRY TO, TO RECTIFY ALL OF THESE PROBLEMS AND MAKE EVERYBODY FEEL LIKE THEY'VE BEEN FAIRLY TREATED.

SO LET'S, LET'S TRY THIS FIRST AND SEE HOW IT GOES.

I APPRECIATE IT.

I JUST WANT TO ASK IS EVERY SINGLE PERSON SITTING HERE, A RESIDENT OF ALCOHOL, ALL THE ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE RESIDENTS OF ALCOHOL.

THE STAFF IS NOT REQUIRED TO LIVE IN THE CITY.

OKAY.

SO IF YOU WERE ADVISING ME, I WAS JUST MOVING INTO ALCOHOL.

DON'T JUST HAPPENED TO BUY MY OWN LITTLE HOUSE AND SPENT BACK IN THE DAY WHEN I HAD MONEY AND SPENT MONEY TO HAVE IT RE LANDSCAPED ALL IN DRIP, WHICH MY HAD AND ALL IN SUCCULENTS, WHICH I HAVE DONE.

AND I SHOW SOMEONE IN YOUR OFFICE, MAYBE IT'S MS. ADRIANO'S OFFICE.

I DON'T KNOW.

UM, I MEAN, CAN YOU JUST UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION OF THE AVERAGE CITIZEN OF ALCOHOL? I KNOW YOU HAVE TO KEEP THEM, UH, SOME EXTRA MONEY IN CASE SOMEBODY'S HOUSE FALLS IN, AND THERE'S A SINK HOLE, OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

THAT'S A RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY.

AS I POINTED OUT EARLIER, THE MONEY THAT WE'RE COLLECTING FOR THE CITIZENS ARE GROWING IS A PASS THROUGH.

IT'S GOING DIRECTLY TO THE COSTS.

MOST OF THOSE COSTS, WHICH WE HAVE TO GIVE TO THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO BECAUSE THEY TRANSPORT OUR SEWER FOR US.

SO THERE'S REALLY OTHER THAN THE CITY PAYING THAT FOR THE CITIZENS.

THERE'S REALLY NOT ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO, COSTS DO INCREASE, AND WE'VE ALL BEEN HIT WITH THE COSTS OF INCREASING SEWER, INCREASING WATER, INCREASING ELECTRICITY.

UM, IT'S HARD.

IT'S A HARD AND EXPENSIVE TO LIVE IN CALIFORNIA RIGHT NOW.

AND I FEEL IT TOO.

I I'M WITH YOU.

THANK YOU.

YES.

SURE.

I LIVE IN FLETCHER HILLS TOO, FOR 33 YEARS.

AND ABOUT 25 YEARS AGO, I HAD EXACTLY THE SAME THING HAPPENED TO MY HOUSE AND I HAD TO REROUTE EVERYTHING THROUGH THE ATTIC.

SO WE'VE GOT THAT IT'S, WHAT'S CALLED EXPANSIVE SOIL AND A BIG PART OF FLETCHER HILLS WHERE YOU, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE HOUSES THAT JUST IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAD FIVE HOUSES ACTUALLY SANK BACK JUST A FEW YEARS AFTER THEY BUILT IT.

AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT'S A CHALLENGE.

I HAD THAT I AS WALKING ALONG THE CARPET AND I SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, THE CARPET'S WARM RIGHT HERE.

WHAT'S GOING ON? SO I CALLED THE PLUMBER AND HE SAYS, OH, IT'S YOUR HOT WATER LINE FROM THE ROCK.

THEY, THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T COVER THE PIPES WITH THE FOAM THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO USE WHEN THEY BUILT MY HOUSE AND THE SHARP ROCKS.

IF THE PIPES WOULD EXPAND IT, THE HOT WATER PIPE WOULD EXPAND AND CONTRACT.

IT WOULD CREATE HOLES IN THE PIPE.

SO, UH, AT LEAST YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT PROBLEM ANYMORE, BUT I ALSO SIT ON, UH, THE METRO WASTEWATER JPA KNICKS, AND THEY SAID ORGANIZATION OF ALL THE DIFFERENT CITIES AROUND, UH, IN,

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AND RIGHT NOW, UH, THEY'RE SPENDING ABOUT ONE AND A HALF BILLION DOLLARS.

THAT'S BILLION WITH A B TO RECYCLE THE, THE SEWAGE AND, UH, HAVE PURE WATER.

AND THAT'S THAT ACTUALLY GETS ADDED INTO THE BILL.

THAT'S SOMETHING WE ALL PAY FOR.

SO WE'RE ASSURED OF ABOUT 30% OF OUR WATER WILL BE RECYCLED.

SO WHEN THEY HAVE THE NEXT DROUGHT, WHICH LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING INTO RIGHT NOW THAT WE'LL ACTUALLY HAVE WATER COME OUT OF THE FAUCET WHEN WE TURN IT ON.

BUT ALL THOSE THINGS, THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO CHARGES, THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA FOR, AND I THINK WE HAVE A LAWSUIT ABOUT THAT.

WE THOUGHT THEY WERE CHARGING US TOO MUCH, I THINK AT ONE TIME.

AND, AND WE SETTLED IT.

AND SO, SO WE'RE WATCHING THOSE NUMBERS CAUSE WE ALL LIVE IN OKLAHOMA.

WE, WE PAY THE SEWER BILL TOO, AND NONE OF US LIKE IT, BUT THAT'S KIND OF LIKE THE COST OF LIVING IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.

SO, UH, I KNOW, BUT I DON'T LIVE IN HELIX.

I LIVE IN THE MORE MODEST PART.

NO, BUT WE'RE ALL TREATED THE SAME, WHETHER YOU LIVE IN A TINY HOUSE OR LIVE IN A BIG HOUSE.