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[CALL TO ORDER]
AND CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.AND AS I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER, I WOULD LIKE THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT PURSUANT TO THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER N 29 20, AND IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF MAY ATTENDED MEETING TELEPHONICALLY FURTHER ORDERS FROM THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY HEALTH OFFICER PREVENT PERSONS OTHER THAN CITY OFFICIALS AND ESSENTIAL EMPLOYEES TO BE PHYSICALLY PRESENT.
THE PUBLIC MAY VIEW THIS MEETING, SUBMIT COMMENTS ON AN ITEM ON THIS AGENDA, OR SUBMIT A PUBLIC COMMENT THROUGH THE ZOOM WEBINAR MEETING.
PLEASE CLICK ON THE Q AND A ICON IN THE ZOOM MEETING SCREEN TO SUBMIT THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE ACCEPTED UNTIL THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ON EACH ITEM.
HOLD BEFORE YOU SUBMIT YOUR COUNT, YOUR COMMENT.
PLEASE MAKE SURE TO INCLUDE THE ITEM NUMBER.
COMMENTS WILL BE LIMITED TO 300 WORDS AND IT WILL BE ENTERED INTO THE OFFICIAL COMMISSION MEETING RECORD.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE BEING ACCEPTED.
NOW COMMISSIONERS, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR A COMMENT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND WAIT TO BE RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR.
ONLY ONE PERSON MAY SPEAK AT A TIME.
ALL RIGHT, LET'S STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND A MOMENT OF SILENCE READY.
AND AGAIN, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY ROLL CALL PLEASE.
SO TILA HUMBERT CABERA PRESENT DARREN MOROSE, REBECCA POLLOCK, RUDE, REBECCA POLLOCK, RUDE REBECCA POLLACK, RUDE FOR THE RECORD.
AND FOR THE RECORD, ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT.
[CHAIRPERSON’S WELCOME]
WELCOME TO THE OUTCOME AND PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING APPEALS OF FINAL DECISIONS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MADE.THIS DB MUST BE FILED IN WRITING WITH THE CITY CLERK BEFORE 5:00 PM.
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 2ND, 2020 MUST INCLUDE THE PAYMENT OF A FILING FEE FOR SOON TO CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION.
NUMBER ONE, ONE FOUR DASH SEVEN NINE.
THE COMMISSIONERS RECEIVED EVIDENCE RELATED TO A MATTER BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, OTHER THAN AN UNDERSCORE TO VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE SUCH INFORMATION AT THE HEARING.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL TAKE COMMENTS FROM ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ON ANY ITEM OF BUSINESS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE COMMISSION.
THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA UNDER THE, I'M NOT SURE WHY I'M GETTING MUTED, BUT I KEEP FINDING MYSELF MUTED.
UM, UNDER STATE LAW, NO ACTION CAN BE TAKEN ON ITEMS BROUGHT FORWARD UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT, EXCEPT THREE FOR IT TO STAFF OR ADMINISTRATION, OR PLACE IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
THIS IS THE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION BY SUBMITTING THEIR COMMENTS VIA THE Q AND A AND ZOOM.
UH, HAVE ANY COMMENTS BEEN SUBMITTED? MR. CHAIR, NO COMMENTS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED EITHER THROUGH THE QUESTION AND ANSWER NOR THE CHAT.
AND JUDGING BY THE LOW NUMBER OF ATTENDEES, I'M GOING TO HAZARD A GUESS THAT MOST ARE HERE FOR ITEMS ON THE AGENDA ALREADY.
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SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.WE'LL COVER ALL ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
DOES THE COMMISSION WISH TO PULL CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM FOR DISCUSSION? NO.
DOES STAFF WISH TO POLL CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM FOR DISCUSSION?
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NO, WE DO NOT.ALL RIGHT, THEN ALL WE NEED IS EMOTION.
I MOVED TO A DOUBLE-DIP SET CALENDAR, A SECOND APP.
SO TLA SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER MOROSE.
SO TAYLOR, I CONVERT HUMBERT COVER ERA.
THIS MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
THE FIRST ITEM UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS
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IS AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, CORDELL STORAGE CONTAINERS.THIS IS A REQUEST TO ALLOW FOR PREFABRICATED STORAGE CONTAINERS.
IT IS EXEMPT AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL STAFF.
SO A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UH, 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO ZERO SIX FOR 1935 CORDELL COURT, UH, STORAGE CONTAINERS.
THE PROJECT INCLUDES FOUR PREFABRICATED STORAGE CONTAINERS LOCATED WITHIN AN EXISTING PARKING LOT AT 1935 CORDELL COURT, UM, OF THE FOUR CONTAINERS TO WHAT ACT AS TYPICAL STORAGE WHILE THE OTHER TWO WOULD INCLUDE ELECTRICAL FOR REFRIGERATION TO FACILITATE FACILITATE MEDICAL TESTING PRODUCTS IN ANTIGENS, THE CONTAINERS WOULD STORE RAW BIOLOGICAL MATERIALS NECESSARY TO MAKE THE MATRIX AGENTS FOR BIOLOGICAL TESTING, INCLUDING COVID-19 TESTING FOR ANALYZING MEDICAL SOLUTIONS.
THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE INDUSTRIAL PARK GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION AND MANUFACTURING, ZONING, AND MINOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED FOR PERMANENT STORAGE OF PREFABRICATED STORAGE CONTAINERS IS THE AERIAL SITE OF THE SITE, WHICH IS SURROUNDED BY SIMILAR USES, INCLUDING MANUFACTURING IT IN OFFICE.
THE PROJECT SITE IS 1.57 ACRES IN SIZE.
THE PROPOSAL IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE EXISTING BIOTECH USE AND, AND WOULD OPERATE AS AN ACCESSORY USE TO THE TWO THAT USE IT'S.
I REQUIRES 46 TOTAL PARKING SPACES.
AND WITH FOUR SPACES BEING WOULD BE OCCUPIED BY THE CONTAINERS.
THE SITE HAS MORE THAN ADEQUATE PARKING WITH 64 SPACES.
THE EXISTING DRIVEWAYS AND FIRE LANES WOULD ALSO REMAIN CLEAR AND THE LOCATION OF THE CONTAINERS WOULD INCLUDE A MATURE LANDSCAPING ON AN ELEVATED SLOPE SCREENING.
THE CONTAINERS FROM PUBLIC VIEW ALONG CORDELL COURT SITE PLAN SHOWS THE FOUR CONTAINERS LOCATED TOWARD THE BOTTOM SOUTHEAST CORNER OF THE PROPERTY AWAY FROM ACTIVE PARKING SPACES AND DRIVEWAYS KIND OF IN THE, IN THE BOTTOM CORNER THERE.
YEAH, A TYPICAL IMAGE OF THE CONTAINERS AS THEY'RE ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.
UH, THEY ARE THE STANDARD SIZE BEING FEET BY 18.
LET'S SEE, UH, THEREBY STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF CLASS 11 SQL EXEMPTION AND MINOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UH, 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO ZERO SIX SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
UM, AND JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, THE SEQUEL EXEMPTION, UH, WHAT WAS IT? SECTION 11.
IT WAS A, A CLASS 11, UH, BUT IT'S THE 15, UH, THREE, ONE, ONE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS? NO, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS.
ARE THERE ANY HAZARDOUS MATERIALS WITHIN THE SIKH CONTAINERS TO BE STORED, NOT INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT DESCRIPTION? OKAY.
AND THE SECOND THING IS, I KNOW IN OTHER CITIES THERE'S LIKE PAINT REQUIREMENTS, COLOR REQUIREMENTS.
DO WE HAVE ANY SUCH REQUIREMENTS? UM, NOT FOR
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THESE, I HAVE AN ENLARGE SITE PLAN SHOWN ON THE SCREEN HERE.UM, KIND OF SHOWING THE LOCATION OF IT.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER TO SEE.
UM, BUT WE HAVEN'T INCLUDED ANY KIND OF PAINTING OR DIRECTIONAL, UM, INCLUDING THE CONDITIONAL, UH, CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
THE FACT THAT LOCATION IS WITHIN THE SETBACKS.
I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS BECAUSE IT'S LOCATED NEAR AN AIRPORT, A QUALIFICATION THAT SAYS THAT THOSE CONTAINERS MAY NOT CONTAIN HAZARDOUS MATERIALS BECAUSE IT'S IN THE FLIGHT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF FROM THE COMMISSION? ALL RIGHT, THEN LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
MR. VIAS, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS, MR. CHAIR? THERE'S FOUR ATTENDEES, BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHICH, WHICH ITEM THEY ARE HERE FOR.
IF YOU ARE IN ATTENDANCE RIGHT NOW FOR THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA, UM, IF YOU PUT SOMETHING IN THE CHAT OR QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS TO LET OUR MODERATOR KNOW THAT YOU'RE, YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.
IF YOU'RE NOT HERE FOR THIS ITEM, THEN JUST HANG ON.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
YOU CAN ALSO RAISE YOUR HAND TO INDICATE THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK.
AND IF YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW RAISE YOUR HAND, IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE PARTICIPANTS SUB PANEL, CLICK ON PARTICIPANTS BELOW THE VIDEO, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE A LIST OF PARTICIPANTS AND ATTENDEES.
IF YOU'RE IN THE ATTENDING, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND A BUTTON BELOW YOUR NAME THAT SAYS RAISE HAND, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
MR. CHAIR, NOBODY IS RAISING THEIR HAND AND THERE'S NO ITEMS ON CHECKS.
I CAN'T READ VISUAL CUES AT THE SAME PACE, UH, VIA VIDEO.
UH, SEEING NO PUBLIC COMMENTS, I'M MOVED TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
I SECOND THAT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER.
SERCOS SECOND BY COMMISSIONER TLA.
FOR THE RECORD, THIS MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
UM, IN ANY DISCUSSION RELATING TO THE CONTAINERS, WHEN I FIRST SAW THE CONTAINERS ON THE AGENDA, I WAS A LITTLE, UH, SCARED, BUT IT'S IN THE INDUSTRIAL ZONE AND THE STORAGE THAT IT'S BEING USED FOR, IT'S ALMOST NECESSARY TO KEEP THAT SEPARATE FROM THE MAIN BUILDING, UH, FOR THE INTEGRITY OF THE MATRIX MATERIALS DONE A LITTLE BIT OF READING ON THIS.
I'M NO, BY NO MEANS AN EXPERT, BUT, UH, AS I READ THROUGH MORE OF THE REQUIREMENTS, IT GOT ME COMFORTABLE WITH THE IDEA AND IT IS IN AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE.
SO ANY DISCUSSION I CONCUR, PAUL, I AGREE.
MAY I MAKE A MOTION? GO FOR IT.
I MOVED TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION IN ORDER APPROVING THE SEQUEL EXEC AND CP NUMBER 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO ZERO SIX.
THIS MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
AS THIS ITEM DOES NOT GO TO CITY COUNCIL.
THE LAST OPTION TO APPEAL THIS DECISION WOULD BE WRITING TO THE CITY CLERK BEFORE 5:00 PM.
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MONDAY, NOVEMBER 2ND, WE[PUBLIC HEARINGS Agenda Item: 3]
WILL MOVE ON TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER THREE, THIS IS THE EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER.BATTERY STORAGE IS REQUESTS OR SIX ENERGY STORAGE BATTERIES WITH SCREENING IS SECRETLY EXEMPT AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL STAFF.
SO THE PROJECT, A PROPOSED PROJECT IS A SIX MEGAWATT ENERGY STORAGE FACILITY, INCLUDING SIX BATTERY CABINETS WITH ASSOCIATED EQUIPMENT BENSON SCREENED WITHIN AN EXISTING PARKING LOT AT THE EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER PROPERTY.
THE PROJECT WILL SERVE VOLTAGE SUPPORT EUGENIE, A TRANSMISSION LINE PASSING FROM THE SITE TO THE NEARBY GRANITE SUBSTATION, WHICH WOULD HELP LOWER THE CHANCES OF A LOCAL BLACKOUT OR BROWNOUT BY PROVIDING POWER TO THE GRID.
DURING TIMES OF PEAK DEMAND, THE EQUIPMENT AND USEFUL PROVIDE, UH, NO EMISSIONS, NO WATER USE, NO ENVIRONMENTAL OR AIR QUALITY IMPACTS.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED WITHIN THE GENERAL COMMERCIAL PLAN, UH, GENERAL GENERAL PLAN, UH, AND ZONING DESIGNATION.
UM, AND THE USE REQUIRES A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, UH, FOR UTILITY USES.
UH, THIS AERIAL IMAGE OF THE PROPERTY, UH, SHOWS THE, UH, SITE, UH, ADJACENT TO EAST MAIN STREET, UH, LOCATED, UM, ON, ON THE WEST SIDE AND THE, UM, ON THE SOUTHERN, UM, KIND OF EASTERN OR MAJORITY SIDE PRETTY, UH, IS 4.2, SIX ACRES IN SIZE AND CURRENTLY OPERATES.
UH ETTL BUT THIS PROPER, THIS PROPOSAL IS NOT ASSOCIATED OR AN ACCESSORY USE TO THAT, TO THE ECE.
KELSEY SIDE HAS A FUTURE DORMITORY BUILDING UNDER CONSTRUCTION, AND IT'S SURROUNDED BY A COUPLE OF USES TO THE NORTH, UM, SELF STORAGE AND AN RV PARK.
UM, OR LIKE I MENTIONED, THE, UH, MAJORITY OF IT IS ALONG THE EAST MAIN STREET AND THE SITE HAS A TOTAL OF 141 PARKING SPACES THAT WILL REMAIN ALONG WITH EXISTING DRIVEWAYS.
THE LOCATION OF THE BATTERIES ARE OUTSIDE OF SETBACKS.
UM, THE PROJECT AREA INCLUDES APPROXIMATELY 6,223 SQUARE FEET.
AND THE LOCATION IS APPROXIMATELY FOUR FEET AWAY FROM THE EXISTING BUILDING.
UM, AND APPROXIMATELY 40 FEET AWAY FROM THE FUTURE DORM DORMITORY BUILDING.
SO HERE'S A SITE PLAN, UH, WHERE YOU WILL FIND THE BATTERIES, UH, LOCATED, UM, ALMOST BETWEEN THE BUILDING FOOTPRINTS ALONG THE REAR PROPERTY LINE.
AS PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, THE DISTANCE IS APPROXIMATELY 24 FEET FROM, UH, THE EXISTING BUILDING HERE TO THE NORTH AND APPROXIMATELY 42 FEET AND DISTANCE FROM THAT FUTURE PROPOSED BUILDING, UH, DORMITORY BUILDING.
THIS IS AN IMAGE OF A, ONE OF THE BATTERY CABINETS, UH, ONE OF SIX, UM, IT IS A 40 FEET IN LENGTH, EIGHT FEET IN WIDTH, AND ABOUT NINE FEET, THE EQUIPMENT WILL BE OWNED AND OPERATED BY INNER SMART STORAGE WITH 24 SEVEN REMOTE MONITORING AND SCHEDULED MAINTENANCE ABOUT ONE TO TWO TIMES A YEAR.
IN ADDITION TO THE BATTERIES, THE SYSTEM WOULD CONTAIN TWO TRANSFORMERS ON INDIVIDUAL INDIVIDUAL CONCRETE EQUIPMENT PADS, MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT, SUCH AS ELECTRICAL CONTROLS, HEATING VENTILATION AND AIR CONDITIONING, UM, NATURE HVAC SYSTEM, UM, UNITS WITH INTERNAL FIRE SUPPRESSION SYSTEM NOISE GENERATED WOULD BE SIMILAR TO THE NOISE GENERATED BY A COMMERCIAL HVAC SYSTEM.
UH, THE BATTERIES DO NOT CONTAIN ANY HAZARDOUS MATERIALS.
HERE ARE THE ELEVATIONS OF THE PROPOSED NINE FOOT GREEN FENCE CONSISTING OF COMPOSITE OR CORRUGATED METAL PANELS, WHICH ARE NON METALLIC FINISH ALONG WITH THE DISTANCE FROM THE, FROM EAST MAIN STREET.
THE PROJECT PROVIDES A SUFFICIENT SCREEN FROM THE PUBLIC VIEW.
THEREBY STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF A PROPOSED ENERGY SOURCE FACILITY.
UM, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2020 ARROWS ARE FOR ALONG WITH, UM, SEQUEL EXEMPTION, UH, CLASS THREE, UM, SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS.
UM, I HAVE TO SAY THAT, UH, AS I WAS WATCHING THE PRESENTATION,
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I SUDDENLY GOT IT.I WAS READING THE NAME ON THE BATTERY STORAGE WRONG.
IT'S A BEEHIVE E Y D B HIVE, AND I CAN'T HELP, BUT CHUCKLE AT THEIR, UH, PUN.
QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, MR. CABRERA, UH, COMMISSIONER SERCO.
I WOULD LIKE TO READ KEYS MYSELF FROM THE DISCUSSION AND THE VOTE, BUT THEN RETURNED FOR THE, UH, STAFF COMMUNICATIONS.
HOW DO I DO THAT? UM, I BELIEVE THAT FOR THIS IT'S AS SIMPLE AS NEW DEAN AND, UH, TURNING YOUR VIDEO OFF, I SHALL DO THAT AND I'LL RETURN.
THANKS FOR, FOR CLARIFICATION.
UM, COMMISSIONER CANBERRA, ARE YOU RECUSING YOURSELF? YOU HAVE A FINANCIAL INTEREST IN THE PROJECT OR YOU ABSTAINING AND CHOOSING NOT TO VOTE? UH, I AM RE CUSING MYSELF BECAUSE, UM, THE ASSOCIATION I HAVE WITH ECE TLC, YOU, UH, MR. CABRERA, DO YOU GET MONEY FROM THE CTLC OR IS IT SIMPLY A COMMON LOG CONFLICT? I GET NO MONEY, NO FUNDING FROM ECLC.
WELL, IT'S NOT A DISQUALIFICATION THEN IT'S, UH, SIMPLY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABSTAINING FROM CASTING A VOTE.
AND I'LL, I'LL BE ABSTAINING FROM CASTING A VOTE JUST BECAUSE, UH, I DON'T WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE THERE'S AN INTEREST OR SOMETHING, BUT DO YOU WORK FOR THEM AT ALL? UH, YES I DO.
SO YOU DO RECEIVE INCOME, SOME SORT OF NATERA.
THE REASON, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S POLITICAL OR FORMAT DISQUALIFICATION IT'S FOR PURPOSES OF A FINANCIAL INTEREST, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE DON'T HAVE A FINANCIAL INTEREST BECAUSE YOU ACTUALLY GIVE TO E TLC, CORRECT.
YOU PLAY, THAT'S NOT A POLITICAL REFORM ACT DISQUALIFICATION.
AND IF YOU WISH TO DISQUALIFY YOURSELF BECAUSE OF, UH, UH, BECAUSE OF A PERCEPTION OF FAVORITISM, YOU DON'T NEED TO TECHNICALLY LEAVE THE ZOOM ROOM HERE.
SO, UH, IF, IF YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE, YOU COULD BE MUTED BY THE HOST AND BLOCKED BY THE PICTURE.
I SUPPOSE, VIDEO CAN BE BLOCKED BY THE HOST, AND THEN WE CAN BRING YOU BACK IN IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT.
I JUST DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO SAY THAT I WAS MAKING A FACE OR SOMETHING, SO I'D RATHER PREFER TO BE BLOCKED.
CAN YOU, UH, RYAN, CAN YOU BLOCK HIS RADIO AS WELL AS HIS AUDIO, PLEASE? YES.
I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR STAFF CHAIRMAN.
SO THESE ARE, ARE THESE LITHIUM ION BATTERIES, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
SO REAL QUICK WE HAVE, UM, ARE THEY MADE IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA? DO YOU KNOW, ARE THEY CHINESE? I DO NOT KNOW.
I'D LIKE TO GET THE CLARIFICATION MAYBE FROM THE, UH, APPLICANTS ON IT.
I TOTALLY THINK THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS A SITUATION IN 2019 WHERE IN SURPRISE ARIZONA, A BUNCH OF LITHIUM BATTERIES CAUGHT FIRE, UM, FOUR FIREFIGHTERS, SEVERELY INJURED.
UM, AND SO I BELIEVE THAT THE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS HAPPEN AND TAKEN CARE OF, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE AWARE THAT THERE ARE SOME FIREHOUSES WITH THESE AND HAVE, HAS THAT BEEN ADDRESSED? UM, ONE THING I COULD DO, I CAN MENTION IS, UM, PART OF THE DESCRIPTION INCLUDES A FIRE SUPPRESSION AND 24 HOUR MONITORING.
UM, SO, UM, MAYBE THAT CAN ACCOUNT FOR SOME MITIGATION ON ANY KIND OF, UM, YOU KNOW, EMERGENCY OR ACCIDENTS.
SO IF THERE IS A FIRE, OBVIOUSLY THE FIRE SYSTEM WOULD PICK ON AND EXTINGUISH THAT FIRE.
AND DOES IT ALSO, I WOULD IMAGINE THEN THAT MONITORING SYSTEM INCLUDES A GAS MONITORING SYSTEM AS WELL.
UM, I, THEY, HAVEN'T GONE TO DETAIL, UM, THE APPLICANT COULD PROBABLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
YEAH, I'LL SAVE THAT FOR THE APPLICANT AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, I THINK IT'S A GREAT PROJECT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SAFETY PRECAUTIONS ARE PUT IN PLACE.
SO I'LL WAIT FOR THE APPLICANT.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WITH QUESTIONS FOR STAFF ON THIS ITEM? NOPE.
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WILL SAY THAT I KNOW THIS LOCATION FAIRLY WELL.I DRIVE BY IT'S ABOUT ONCE TODAY, BETWEEN WORK AND HOME, UH, AND THE BACKSIDE OF THE, THE OLD HOTEL HAS BEEN USED AS STORAGE FOR AWHILE.
SO IT'D BE NICE TO HAVE THAT CLEANED UP.
UH, I THINK THAT THIS COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A PUBLIC ART PROJECT.
THE SCREENING WALL WILL DO FINE TO BLOCK THE VIEW OF THE BATTERIES, BUT, UH, I THINK THAT COULD SERVE AS A WAY FINDING POINT OR JUST A SPLASH OF COLOR, A MURAL, SOMETHING ARTY BACK THERE.
AND THAT'S PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT COULD BE WORKED OUT WITH THE COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER, BUT, UH, JUST TO HAVE A SOLID COLOR FENCE, WON'T BE ALL THAT BEAUTIFYING ON THAT PARTICULAR OFF-RAMP.
I THINK WE'VE EXHAUSTED COMMISSIONER REQUESTS FOR THE STAFF.
SO LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND MR. VIAS, MR. CHAIR, THERE ARE SEVERAL ATTENDEES AND WE DO HAVE JAMES BEACH, WHO IS THE APPLICANT HE'S PRESENT, SO I WILL ALLOW THEM OR MR. BEACH, MR. BEACH, ARE YOU PRESENT? OKAY.
ALMOST, UH, YOU ARE MUTED AT THE MOMENT.
WAIT, CAN YOU HEAR US NOW? YES.
UM, SO YEAH, WE JUST, WE ROSE OUR HAND JUST TO ANSWER A COUPLE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE JUST RAISED.
UM, FIRST THAT THE TECHNOLOGY FOR THESE BATTERIES IS LITHIUM IRON, WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM THE LITHIUM ION THAT WAS USED IN, IN ARIZONA.
THESE BATTERIES THERE AREN'T, THEY ARE MANUFACTURED IN CHINA.
AND B WHY DO YOU USE THE LARGEST BATTERY MANUFACTURER IN CHINA? UM, THEY PROVIDE, UH, BATTERY TECHNOLOGY MAINLY FOR TRANSPORTATION THERE.
THEY'VE NEVER HAD AN INCIDENT OF A, OF BATTERIES BURNING.
AND EACH OF THESE CONTAINERS IS I'LL FIND THEM WAS MENTIONING, ARE I HAVE A SELF-CONTAINED FIRE SUPPRESSION EQUIPMENT INSIDE OF THAT? AND WE CERTAINLY WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE LOCAL FIRE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS.
THE REQUIREMENTS ARE 10 FEET, 10 FEET FROM AN EXISTING BUILDING.
AND AS OFTEN AS THEY SHOULD, WHERE 25 FEET AWAY FROM THE EXISTING BUILDING WILL BE OVER 40 FEET AWAY FROM THE NEW BUILDINGS.
AND WE PLAN TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE FULLY TRAINED AND THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT TO DO IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS A FIRE, UM, AND IT WILL BE MONITORED AND THEY'LL KNOW WHAT TO DO.
UM, WHEN THEY SHOW UP, I THINK ONE OF THE ISSUES, THEY HAD SURPRISED HER AS LONG AS THE, UH, FIRE DEPARTMENT THERE WAS NOT TRAINED AND THEY, THEY DID, UH, SOME THINGS THAT THEY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO DO.
THEY, THEY PUT ONE OR TWO WORKING ON THE BATTERIES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE THAT THEY WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO DO.
SO THESE, IF THERE WAS A FIRE, THEY, THEY DON'T EXPLODE THE, THEY BURN SLOWLY AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT THE FIRE SUPPRESSION EQUIPMENT, THERE'S ALL KINDS OF MONITORING THAT TAKES PLACE BEFORE IT EVER GETS TO A POINT WHERE THERE COULD POSSIBLY BE A FIRE.
AND GOD FORBID THAT HAPPENED WHAT WE'LL BE READY TO GO TO TAKE CARE OF IT AND MAKE SURE THAT THAT, UM, THAT IS CONTAINED.
UM, WE ALSO LOOKING AT, UH, TESLA BATTERIES, YOU GUYS BATTERIES.
AND, UM, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE, WE, WE MIGHT, WE MIGHT MAKE THAT SWITCH LATER ON BEFORE WE START CONSTRUCTING THOSE, WE'D BE MANUFACTURING THAT, UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE ON THE WORLD WHERE WE'RE DECIDING BETWEEN THE BYD, BEEHIVES AND ALLEN AND MEGA PACKS THAT ARE MANUFACTURED BY TESLA.
UM, AND THE SECOND PART WAS THE QUESTION ABOUT, UH, THE MURAL AND MAKING THE FENCING LOOK NICER.
AND WE'D CERTAINLY PLAN TO WORK WITH, WITH YOU ALL TO, UM, YOU KNOW, TO PUT IN PLACE, UH, WHATEVER YOU THINK MIGHT MAKE THE MOST SENSE.
UM, AND W WE, WE'RE NOT MARRIED TO WHAT WE, WHAT WE PRESENTED.
SO, UM, IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO TO IMPROVE THAT IT WE'RE, WE'RE ALL YOURS.
YOU ARE YOU ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS ON THAT? I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS.
THAT WAS EXACTLY WHAT I NEEDED TO HEAR.
UH, WHEN YOU SAY IT'S LOOKING IRON, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? JUST, I KNOW THE BATTERY TECHNOLOGY CAN GET EXTREMELY TECHNICAL, BUT, UM, CAN YOU JUST SHARE WITH US WHAT A LITHIUM IRON BATTERY FUNCTIONS? YEAH, I'M CERTAINLY NOT A TECHNICAL PERSON.
IT'S A DIFFERENT TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY, UM, THAT, UH, ISN'T AS PRONE TO TOO FAR AS LITHIUM AUDIO, BUT GETTING TO THE ACTUAL TECHNOLOGY.
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OMANI I'M JAMES'S, UH, UH, PARTNER, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT HAPPENED IN ARIZONA, BETWEEN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, NOT BEING TRAINED ON WHAT WAS INSIDE THOSE CABINETS, AND THAT WAS AN LG SYSTEM USING NICKEL MANGANESE.SO THESE ARE ALL GENERALLY THEY'RE CALLED LITHIUM ION BECAUSE LITHIUM IS KIND OF ONE OF THE ACTIVE, UH, YOU KNOW, CHEMICALS HERE, BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENT METALS THAT CAN BE COMBINED WITH LITHIUM TO STORE AND CREATE BATTERY STORES.
SO SOME CAN BE, YOU KNOW, MADE WITH NICKELS, SOME CAN BE MADE WITH AN IRON SUBSTRATE.
AND IN THIS CASE, UH, THE BYD CHEMISTRY USES IRON, UM, WHICH DEGRADES SLOWER AND IS SAFER.
AND SO BYD HAS NEVER HAD A FIRE WITH THIS CHEMISTRY.
SO IT'S SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT CHEMISTRY, YOU KNOW, PAIRED WITH LITHIUM.
UH, SO PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, KIND OF GROUP THEM ALL TOGETHER, BUT THERE ARE SLIGHT DIFFERENCES IN THE CHEMISTRY.
SO, UM, THOSE ARE THE, JUST TWO POINTS OF CLARIFICATION WHEN THEY COME ON THE, UH, ON THE, UM, ON THE UNDERLYING CHEMISTRY HERE.
UH, MARK, PLEASE SPELL HIS LAST NAME.
UH, IT'S LAMONIA L A CAPITAL M A G N A.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE LASAGNA WITH AN APP.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR OUR SPEAKER? I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION.
UM, THE IT'S A BATTERY STORAGE FOR THE, FOR THE UNIT ACROSS THE FREEWAY.
IS THAT WHERE THAT IT'S TAKING THEM POWER TO STORE OR WHERE IS IT TAKING THE POWER FROM THE STORE? YEAH, SO THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION.
SO IT INTERCONNECTS WITH THE SUBSTATION THAT'S ACROSS TO INTERSTATE EIGHT, AND WE'LL GET THOSE AS WE'LL HAVE, UH, THERE'LL BE TRANSFORMERS NEXT TO THOSE STORAGE CONTAINERS AND THEN WIRING WILL BE UNDERGROUND.
AND THEN WE'LL BASICALLY COME BACK THE GROUND AT THE POLE AND A TRANSMISSION POOL THAT'S ON THE ECE TLC SITE.
AND THEN FROM THAT POLE, THEN IT USES THE EXISTING WIRES THAT GO ACROSS TO INTERSTATE EIGHT INTO THAT SUBSTATION.
SO IT WILL BE SENDING AND RECEIVING POWER FROM THAT SUBSTATION USING THOSE, THOSE EXISTING LINES.
SO IT'LL USE THE WIRES THAT ACROSS IF WE WENT RIGHT NOW AND THEN THE REST WILL BE BURIED UNDERGROUND INTO, INTO FEET.
YOU WON'T SEE ANY ADDITIONAL WARS.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BLINDING? THANK YOU, MR. BEACH, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM OR, OR ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? SURE.
THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS NOR ANY CHATS.
WE DO HAVE SEVERAL ATTENDEES, BUT NONE AF RACES.
UH, IF YOU ARE AN ATTENDEE AND YOU WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS OR ASK A QUESTION, UH, NOW IS THE TIME WE DO HAVE A HAND RAISED BELL F WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO UNMUTE HIM CHAIRMAN CIRCLE? THANK YOU.
UH, BILL, GO AHEAD AND TELL US YOUR NAME AND THEN WHO I AM.
I'M A BOARD MEMBER AT THE CENTER.
I HAVEN'T BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT BECAUSE I'M A REAL ESTATE ATTORNEY AND SOMEONE INVOLVED IN ENVIRONMENTAL STUFF.
SO I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR THE CENTER.
UM, I'M, WE ARE SATISFIED WITH HOW WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THE ARRANGEMENT, UM, WITH THE APPLICANT.
AND, UH, WE'RE HAPPY THAT TO HEAR ABOUT THIS, UH, ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY.
WE KIND OF HAD TO DEFER A LITTLE BIT ON THAT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT EXPERTS ON THIS, BUT, UH, THE SETBACKS FROM THE, UH, PROPOSED BUILDING AND THE EXISTING BUILDINGS, UH, THE FACT THAT IT'S SET OUT BY THE FREEWAY, UM, GIVES US SOME, UM, SOME GOOD SECURITY THAT THIS IS A SAFE OPERATION ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, WE WELCOME OF COURSE, THE INCOME THAT THIS WILL PROVIDE TO HELP SUPPORT OUR OPERATIONS AT THE CENTER AND, UH, ALL IN ALL, UH, WE HOPE THIS IS A REALLY A GOOD LONG-TERM RELATIONSHIP.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. FISCHBECK? ALL RIGHT.
ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR ANY OTHER SPEAKERS, MR. BAEZ? NOPE.
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MR. CHAIR, THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS NOR ANY CHAT.THERE IS ONE ADDITIONAL COMMENT FROM JOHN GIBSON.
IT SAYS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
THIS WILL BE A BENEFIT TO ECE TLC.
WELL, IF THERE IS NO FURTHER COMMENT OR INPUT FROM THE PUBLIC, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SECOND UP MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SERCO SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROSE.
HOW, HOW ARE WE DOING IT? ABSTAIN.
AND WE DID GET A YES FROM COMMISSIONER PAUL CRUDE.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION BEFORE WE MAKE A MOTION ON THIS? I DON'T KNOW IF, WHAT FORMAT TO PRESENT THE QUESTION OF ART ON THE SCREENING PANELS.
I DON'T THINK THAT NEEDS TO BE IMMEDIATE BEFORE IT, I DON'T THINK THAT HAS TO COME BEFORE WE APPROVED THE PROJECT.
I JUST THINK THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY OF ELK TO BEAUTIFY THAT CORNER.
THAT HAS BEEN A LITTLE DILAPIDATED CHAIRMAN.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WANTS TO SEE, UM, A DESIGN FOR A MURAL COME BACK TO YOU? OR HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO HANDLE THIS? HONESTLY, I THINK THIS WOULD BE A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY THING, NOT NECESSARILY A PLANNING COMMISSION THING.
UM, JUST AN OPPORTUNITY THAT I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT RATHER THAN MAKE IT A REQUIREMENT OR NECESSARILY COME THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION.
UM, HONESTLY, IF THESE COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER WANTED TO PUT SOMETHING ON THAT FENCE AND THE SCREENS TO MAKE IT BEAUTIFUL, I'D BE HAPPY WITH THAT.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT OPPORTUNITY.
ANY OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE, UH, INPUT OR DISCUSSION.
AND, UH, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM GOING AHEAD WITH IT, UH, WITH NOT SEEING THE DESIGN IS THE MURAL.
I THINK IT SHOULD BE LEFT UP TO THE ETL DC COUNTY, TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER.
THE CITY OF OUTCOME GETS A LITTLE BIT MORE POWER STABILITY AND THE SCOUTING TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER GETS A LITTLE BIT OF INCOME.
UM, I THINK WE'RE READY FOR EMOTION.
I WILL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION.
I MOVE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTIONS IN ORDER APPROVING THE PROPOSED SEQUEL EXEMPTION AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NUMBER 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO ZERO FOUR.
SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS, A MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SERCO.
AND I'M GOING TO GIVE THE SECOND TWO COMMISSION ROSE, PLEASE VOTE ROLL BOAT, PLEASE.
THIS MOTION PASSES FOUR ZERO WITH HUMBER.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS PROJECT TO US.
AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE DEVELOPMENT.
RYAN, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND GET MR. DUBROW BACK, PLEASE.
AND JUST A REMINDER, THE PLANNING BUSINESS IS NOT GOING TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO UNLESS THIS IS APPEALED WITH A FILING OF FORM AND PAYMENT OF A FILING FEE NO LATER THAN 5:00 PM.
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 2ND, THIS IS GOING FORWARD.
I BELIEVE THAT'S THE LAST ITEM ON OUR PUBLIC HEARING AGENDA.
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WE HAVE ANY STAFF COMMUNICATIONS? THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN.I DON'T HAVE ANY FORMAL PROJECT UPDATES
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FOR YOU AT THIS MEETING SINCE WE JUST MET TWO WEEKS AGO.HOWEVER, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
I DID WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AT CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THERE WAS A PROCLAMATION FOR PLANNING MONTH FOR THE NATIONAL AMERICAN PLANNING ASSOCIATION, UM, TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL THE WORK THAT THE COMMISSIONERS DO AND SLOW CITY STAFF AND CONTRIBUTING TO COMMUNITY PLANNING AND ALCOHOL.
AND THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN SERCO FOR RECEIVING THAT.
OCTOBER 20, 20 PLANNING, UH, COMMUNITY PLANNING MONTH, AND AS THE CHAIR OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE PLANNING STAFF BECAUSE WITHOUT YOU GUYS, WE WOULD BE TOTALLY AND HOPELESSLY LOST.
UM, ANY COMMISSIONER REPORTS OR COMMENTS? NONE.
ALRIGHT, THEN WE'RE COMING UP TO THE ADJOURNMENT AND I JUST WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK.
THE NEXT PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING IS NOVEMBER 3RD, 2020 AT 7:00 PM.
SO MAKE SURE YOU VOTE BEFORE YOU COME TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
I SECOND THAT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SERCO SECOND BY COMMISSIONER.
THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED AT SEVEN 41.