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UM, PAUL, IF YOU WANT TO PROCEED, MISSY, IF I CAN GET ALL THE VIDEO GOING, ALL RIGHT, BEFORE I CALL THIS MEETING DAUGHTER, I WOULD LIKE THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT PURSUANT TO THE GOVERNOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER IN 29 20, AND IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND STAFF MAY ATTEND THE MEETING TELEPHONICALLY FURTHER ORDERS FROM THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY HEALTH OFFICER PREVENT PERSONS OTHER THAN THE CITY OFFICIAL AND ESSENTIAL EMPLOYEES TO BE PHYSICALLY PRESENT.THE PUBLIC MAY VIEW THIS MEETING, SUBMIT COMMENTS ON AN ITEM ON THIS AGENDA, OR SUBMIT A PUBLIC COMMENT THROUGH THE ZOOM WEBINAR MEETING.
PLEASE CLICK ON THE Q AND A ICON IN THE ZOOM MEETING SCREEN OR IN THIS CASE WE'VE GOT CHAT, CORRECT? YES, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND CLICK SUBMIT PUBLIC COMMENTS.
PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL BE ACCEPTED UNTIL THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ON EACH ITEM.
PLEASE MAKE SURE TO INCLUDE THE ITEM NUMBER AND NAME IN THE COMMENT.
COMMENTS WILL BE LIMITED TO 300 WORDS AND WILL BE ENTERED INTO THE OFFICIAL RECORD.
PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE BEING ACCEPTED NOW.
PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR COMMENTS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
YOU DO NOT NEED TO WAIT UNTIL AN ITEM IS CALLED TO SUBMIT A COMMENT.
COMMENTS WILL BE READ DURING THE MEETING COMMISSIONERS.
IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND WAIT TO BE RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR.
ONLY ONE PERSON MAY SPEAK AT A TIME.
[CALL TO ORDER]
ALL RIGHT, NOW I WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER LET'S STAND FOR FLAG SALUTE AND A MOMENT OF SILENCE.I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
YOU MAY BE SEATED IF I MIGHT INTERJECT FOR A MOMENT.
UM, RON, WOULD YOU MIND RIGHT? CLICKING ON MY NAME AND MAKING ME A CO-HOST AGAIN?
WHO NEEDS TO DO THAT? BECAUSE HE IS THE CURRENT HOST.
YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO SO IF YOU CLICK ON THE PARTICIPANTS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN, AND THAT SHOULD OPEN A PANEL THAT SHOWS THE PANELISTS AND ATTENDEES CLICK ON THE PANELISTS BUTTON, IT'S A LONG LIST OF ALL OF US ON SCREEN.
CAN YOU GO DOWN TO MELISSA DIVINE AND HOVER OVER HER NAME? THERE SHOULD BE A MORE BUTTON.
OKAY, SO CLICK ON THE MORE BUTTON HERE.
YOU CAN'T SEE ME, BUT I CAN HEAR YOU AND SEE YOU.
I'M ON THE MORE BUTTON AND THEN IT'S A DROP LIST.
THERE SHOULD BE A NAME AS HOST OR COHOST, LIKE ON THE MAKE HOST.
I'VE BEEN IN TRAINING AS A ZOOM MODERATOR, SO I'M GETTING PRACTICE ON THIS STUFF.
MAY I HAVE ROLL CALL PLEASE? PAUL CIRCLE PRESENCE.
SO TILA DARREN MOROSE PRESENT.
HOMBURG CABERA PRESENT REBECCA POLLOCK RUDE PRESENT FOR THE RECORD.
ALL COMMISSIONERS ARE PRESENT.
WELCOME TO THE OUTCOME PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
UH, MELISSA, ARE YOU OKAY? YES, PAUL, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND.
UM, SO, UM, COMMISSIONER POLLOCK, RUDE AND COMMISSIONER CABERA YOUR VIDEO SHOULD BE WORKING NOW, IF YOU WANT TO CLICK ON THE VIDEO ICON NEXT TO YOUR NAME OR DOWN BELOW.
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ALL RIGHT.[CHAIRPERSON’S WELCOME]
THE FINAL DECISIONS AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION MADE THIS EVENING MUST BE FILED IN WRITING WITH THE CITY CLERK BEFORE 5:00 PM, MONDAY, OCTOBER 19TH, 2020, AND MUST INCLUDE THE PAYMENT TO THE FILING FEE FOR SUE TO CITY COUNCIL RESOLUTION NUMBER ONE, ONE FOUR DASH SEVEN NINE.A COMMISSIONER HAS RECEIVED EVIDENCE RELATED TO A MATTER BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, OTHER THAN AN UNDERSCORED VIEW OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS REQUIRED TO DISCLOSE SUCH INFORMATION AT THE HEARING.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL TAKE COMMENTS FROM ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ON ANY ITEM OF BUSINESS WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE COMMISSION THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA UNDER STATE LAW.
NO ACTION CAN BE TAKEN ON ITEMS BROUGHT FORWARD UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT EXCEPT TO REFER IT TO STAFF FOR ADMINISTRATION OR PLACE IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA.
THIS IS THE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION BY SUBMITTING THEIR COMMENTS BY THE CHAT FUNCTION IN ZOOM.
WE WILL WAIT A FEW MOMENTS IF, TO SEE IF ANY COMMENTS HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED.
AS I SEE THAT THIS IS A SHORT AGENDA, I DON'T BELIEVE WE'VE GOT VERY MANY ATTENDEES, BUT FOR THOSE WHO ARE ATTENDEES, IF YOU HAVE ANY ITEM YOU WISH TO ADDRESS UNDER PUBLIC PUBLIC COMMENT NOW WOULD BE THE TIME.
[CONSENT]
MOVE ON TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.WE'LL COVER ALL THE ITEMS ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
DOES THE COMMISSION WISH TO PULL CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM FOR DISCUSSION? I KNOW.
DOES THE STAFF WISH TO PULL CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM FOR DISCUSSION? NO, WE DO NOT.
THEN ALL WE NEED IS A MOTION TO ACCEPT CONSENT UNDER LEGO.
SO TEELY SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER CANBERRA.
UM, WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
THIS MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE FIRST ITEM UNDER PUBLIC
[PUBLIC HEARINGS]
HEARINGS.UH, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER TWO, THE PROJECT NAME IS OPA GREEK TOWN RESTAURANT.
UH, THE EXCLAMATION POINT PROPERLY OPA UH, THE REQUEST IS ON SALE SPIRITS AND LIQUOR.
IT IS SEQUEL EXEMPT AND STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL.
SO THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A REQUEST FROM AN EXISTING RESTAURANT OPA GREEKTOWN RESTAURANT TO EXPAND THEIR ON SALES SERVICE, UH, WHICH CURRENTLY INCLUDES BEER AND WINE TO NOW INCLUDE DISTILLED SPIRITS.
DOESN'T IT EXISTING, APPROXIMATELY 2000 SQUARE FOOT RESTAURANT WITH AN OUTDOOR PATIO AND LIVE ENTERTAINMENT.
THE GENERAL PLAN DESIGNATION FOR THE SITE IS GENERAL COMMERCIAL AS IS THE STONE.
AND IT IS WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN MASTER PLAN WITHIN SPECIFIC PLAN ONE 82.
AND THERE IS AN EXISTING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT AUTHORIZES THE SELL BEER AND WINE, THE LIVE ENTERTAINMENT AND THE USE OF THE OUTDOOR PATIO FOR COOKING AND FOR DINING.
THIS IS AN AERIAL IMAGE OF THE SITE.
IT IS LOCATED AT THREE 45 WEST MAIN STREET SAT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MAIN STREET BETWEEN BEN MANHATTAN AND CENTRAL SOUTH SUNSHINE AVENUES.
IT IS THE SUITE THAT IS CLOSEST TO WEST MAIN STREET.
UM, AND THERE IS A PATIO THAT'S BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND WEST MAIN STREET WHERE THE OUTDOOR DINING AND THE, UM, OUTDOOR COOKING IS PERMITTED.
THE ESTABLISHMENT HAS HAD ON SALE SERVICE THROUGH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SINCE 2004.
IT WAS LAST AMENDED IN 2011, TO ADD IN SOME ADDITIONAL, UM, OUTDOOR COOKING AND LIVE ENTERTAINMENT.
THE ALCOHOL SERVICE IS IN CONJUNCTION WITH FOOD.
SALES IS A FULL SERVICE RESTAURANT AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE DRAFT RESOLUTION THAT ADDRESSED RESPONSIBLE OPERATION OF THE ON SALE SERVICE,
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AS WELL AS TO ENSURE THAT, UM, THE EMPLOYEES DO HAVE RESPONSIBLE BEVERAGE SERVICE TRAINING.THIS IS A SORT OF A CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN OF THE SITE THAT SHOWS THE RESTAURANT SUITE HERE ON THE NORTH SIDE AT THREE 45 WEST MAIN.
AND THERE'S THE OUTDOOR PATIO AND IS A SHOPPING CENTER THAT ALSO CONTAINS OTHER RESTAURANTS AND BUSINESSES.
SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION MOVED TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTIONS IN ORDER APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO ZERO FIVE, WHICH WILL AMEND THE EXISTING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT ONE NINE, EIGHT ZERO, AND WILL BE SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
UM, THE DRAFT FINDINGS INDICATE THAT THE ON SALE SERVICE WITH FOOD SALES WILL ENSURE RESPONSIBLE OPERATION AND THAT THIS WILL PROVIDE AN ENHANCEMENT OF THE DINING OPTIONS AND SERVICE CHOICES WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
SO THIS CONCLUDES STAFF'S PRESENTATION ON THIS ITEM.
DO ANY OF MY FELLOW PLANNING COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? I JUST HAVE A QUESTION.
ANY COMPLAINTS IN THE PAST, ON FROM THE POLICE OR ANYTHING ON THEIR CURRENT WINE AND BUREAU, NO ISSUES.
THEY'VE ONLY HAD SEVEN CALLS FOR SERVICE OVER THE PAST YEAR, AND NONE OF THOSE WERE RELATED TO ALCOHOL SERVICE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? AND I'LL REMIND THE PUBLIC THAT ARE WATCHING.
IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, YOU CAN TYPE THOSE INTO CHAT WHILE WE ARE DISCUSSING, BUT WE ARE, UNLESS THERE'S ANY FURTHER FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WE'RE ABOUT TO OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT ANYWAY, I DON'T SEE ANY, ALL RIGHT, LET'S GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, MR. VIAS, DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS SUBMITTED? THERE WERE NO COMMENTS SUBMITTED BY EMAIL BEFORE THE MEETING AND NOTHING THROUGH CHAT.
WE DO HAVE TWO SPEAKERS, DAVID CUTLER, AND A PERSON BY THE NAME OF DOUG AND THE ATTENDEES.
AND I SEE THAT DAVID CUTLER HAS HIS HAND UP.
I CAN GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE HIM IF YOU'RE READY FOR THAT COMMISSIONER.
UM, WHEN YOU'RE UNMUTED, PLEASE GO AHEAD AND START BY TELLING US YOUR NAME AND SPELL YOUR LAST NAME, AND THEN WE'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS.
I GUESS THAT'S ME IN MY, ON, UH, BEING HEARD BY ALL NOW.
I'M THE ATTORNEY FOR THE APPLICANT OF THE RESTAURANT, AND I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR TIME.
AND, UH, I JUST WANT TO ALSO COMMEND.
UH, MELISSA JUST WAS VERY, VERY INSTRUMENTAL AND HELPFUL IN GUIDING US THROUGH THIS.
IT SAYS A SHORT COMMENT HELPED GO HOME TO IT'S A MUCH TOUGHER REQUIREMENTS THAN THE CITY OF SAN DIEGO.
I DO QUITE A FEW OF THESE AND YOU GUYS DEFINITELY PUT ME TO TASK ON THIS ONE.
SO, UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S ALL WELL AND GOOD, BUT I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF THIS.
SO, UM, JUST HERE, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS I SEE EVERYTHING IS AS AN APPROVED, UM, HERE AGAIN, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ANY OR CLARITY YOU MIGHT NEED, UH, PLEASE, UH, LET ME KNOW.
UM, I WAS, WHEN I WAS READING OVER THE REQUEST, I SAW THAT THE PREVIOUS, UH, LICENSE WAS FOR BEER AND WINE.
AND THIS IS A REQUEST ADD DISTILLED SPIRITS, UM, PARTICULAR ONES IN MIND.
NO, LIKE I SAY HE IS NO, UH, HE, HE'S NOT LOOKING TO LIKE BECOME A BAR OR ANY KIND OF SCENE HE'S, YOU KNOW, HE'S, UH, IT'S A FAMILY STYLE.
MOSTLY THE DISTILLED SPIRITS WOULD BE SERVED DURING, UH, KIND OF SPECIFIC, UH, FAMILY EVENTS, WHETHER IT'S A BIRTHDAY OR ANNIVERSARY DOES QUITE A FEW LIKE THAT.
SO THAT'S WHERE JUST SOME OF THE PEOPLE THERE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF COCKTAIL OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT HE'S NOT LOOKING TO, LIKE I SAY, BUILD A BAR AREA OR DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO FOR THE MOST PART, I THINK HIS OPERATION WILL BE PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT HE'S BEEN DOING ALL THESE PAST YEARS.
LET ME SEE IF ANY OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
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WELL, THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT, MR. CUTLER.I JUST, WHAT I'LL NEED IS THE ZONING AFFIDAVIT.
I THINK THAT WAS SUBMITTED WITH THE PACKET.
SO I CAN BEGIN THE ABC PROCESS, WHICH CAN TAKE A NUMBER OF MONTHS.
I HAVE TO STILL SEND NOTICE OUT TO ALL THE RESIDENCES WITHIN 600 FEET.
AND SO I'VE ALREADY COMPILED THAT.
SO JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU SOME INSIGHT, IT'S STILL A PROCESS OF A COUPLE MONTHS, AT LEAST I EXPECT, BUT AGAIN, THERE'LL BE NOTICED POSTING ON THE, ON THE FRONT DOOR ONCE ABC GETS STARTED.
SO AGAIN, THERE'LL BE, THERE'LL BE A NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITIES AGAIN, FOR ANY OF THE PUBLIC TO STILL LODGE A PROTEST OF ANYTHING IF THEY, IF THEY, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WANT, BUT, UM, THAT'S JUST PART OF THE PROCESS, SO.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME THEN.
UH, THERE'S NOTHING MORE I'LL I'LL, I'LL LEAVE THE MEETING AND AGAIN, I'LL LOOK FOR THE ZONING AFFIDAVIT.
HOPEFULLY I'LL BE GETTING THAT FROM, UH, I GUESS EITHER MELISSA OR SOMEBODY ON THE PANEL THERE.
I WOULD SUGGEST INSTEAD OF LEAVING THE MEETING, UM, YOU WILL JUST HANG ON UNTIL WE COMPLETE THE ITEM AND THEN YEAH.
THAT WAY YOU GET TO HEAR THE RESULTS.
I'M SEEING THAT WE HAVE ONE OTHER MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC PRESENT.
DOUG, DO YOU HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT OR JUST WISH TO LISTEN IN? ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, DOUG.
UH, WITH, UH, WITH THAT, I GUESS I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER SERCO SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ROSE.
FOR THE RECORD ALL COMMISSIONERS, THIS MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
UH, SO THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED ANY FURTHER ITEMS OF BUSINESS ON THIS ITEM.
UH, ANY COMMENTS OR PECULIARITIES? IT'S GOT A CLEAN RECORD, IT'S GOT A GOOD BUSINESS GOING TO CONE, AND THEY'RE LOOKING TO EXPAND NIGHT OF THE COVID ENVIRONMENT.
I THINK RESTAURANTS NEED THE MOST HELP THAT THEY CAN GET.
I THINK THAT THAT'S A PLUS FOR THEM AND HOPEFULLY MORE RESTAURANTS WILL BE ABLE TO EXPAND THEIR TIME GOES ON.
WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION, MAKE A MOTION, MOVE TO ADOPT THE NEXT RESOLUTION IN ORDER APPROVING THE PROPOSED EQUAL EXEMPTION AND CP AMENDMENT NUMBER 2020 DASH ZERO ZERO ZERO FIVE.
SO TLA SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CABRERA.
THIS MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND WE WISH YOU WELL.
AND, UH, WE WISH, UH, UM, UH, UH, HOD WELL IN HIS BUSINESS.
I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER ITEMS FOR CONSIDERATION AT THIS POINT.
OH, I SHOULD MENTION THIS, THIS PLANNING COMMISSION ITEM DOES NOT GO TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
IF ANYBODY WISHES TO APPEAL THIS DECISION, THE FILING OF A FORM PAYMENT OF A FILING FEE NO LATER THAN 5:00 PM, MONDAY, OCTOBER 19TH WOULD BE THE REQUIREMENT TO APPEAL.
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ALRIGHT.[5. STAFF COMMUNICATIONS]
STAFF COMMUNICATIONS.I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS FOR THE COMMISSION TODAY UNDER STAFF COMMUNICATIONS.
UM, THE FIRST ONE IS JUST A REAL QUICK SHARE OF SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW IN OKLAHOMA.
UM, THIS IS AN UPDATE THAT I DO FOR THE CITY COUNCIL ON A REGULAR BASIS.
AND SO I THOUGHT I WOULD, UM, JUST PROVIDE YOU A FEW UPDATES HERE, GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING.
UM, SO THIS IS THE, THE FIRST PROJECT IS THE EL CAJON BOULEVARD PACE CENTER BY SAN YSIDRO HEALTH.
UM, THIS IS A NEW BUILDING, NEW 40,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THAT WILL HAVE MEDICAL OFFICE AS WELL AS, UM, MEDICAL SERVICES FOR THE ELDERLY.
SO IT'S A SERVICE WHERE THEY GO AHEAD AND PICK UP FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY AND BRING THEM THERE SO THEY CAN RECEIVE MEDICAL SERVICES, NUTRITION, COUNSELING, AND THAT BUILDING IS MOVING ALONG FAIRLY QUICKLY.
YOU DON'T HAVE A DATE ON WHEN IT WILL BE OPEN, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE IT WOULD BE FAIRLY SOON.
ANOTHER PROJECT CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION ON ANZA AND WASHINGTON ON EAST WASHINGTON IS LEGACY TOWNHOMES.
IT'S 41 NEW TOWN HOMES THAT ARE GOING UP THERE.
THE ROCKY HILL POINT PROJECT, ANOTHER OUT ON EAST WASHINGTON IS 26 NEW TOWNHOMES, AND THEY'VE BEEN MOVING FAIRLY QUICKLY ALONG WITH FRAMING THERE.
YOU CAN SEE THEM, UM, FROM WASHINGTON AND THEN ANOTHER PROJECT.
UM, THIS ONE HAD JUST STARTED GOING VERTICAL IS AT TWO 35 EAST LEXINGTON.
IT'S CALLED THE LEXINGTON AVENUE APARTMENTS.
IT'S 10 NEW RESIDENTIAL APARTMENTS RIGHT IN OUR DOWNTOWN.
NOW THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT USED TO HAVE AN OFFICE ON IT.
UM, THAT WAS SORT OF A NUISANCE, UM, KIND OF ATTRACTED SOME, UH, TRANSIENTS AND UNDESIRABLE ACTIVITY.
AND NOW IT WILL BE 10 NEW HOMES FOR FAMILIES.
AND THIS PROJECT AT ONE 72 WELLS IS FOR NEW TOWNHOMES.
SO TWO DUPLEXES SHOULD BE, UM, COMPLETED FAIRLY SOON.
AND THEN ANOTHER EXCITING PROJECT IS THE MAZDA DEALERSHIP AT FIVE 72 NORTH JOHNSON.
THAT WAS EXCESS VEHICLE PARKING FOR THE KIA DEALERSHIP ACROSS THE STREET.
AND IT WILL SOON BE HOME TO THE NEW TWO STORY, 19,000 SQUARE FOOT DEALERSHIP THAT YOU ALL AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION SAW, I BELIEVE LAST YEAR.
AND THEN, UM, I KNOW YOU OFTEN ASK ABOUT THE MAIN STREET MIXED USE PROJECT.
THAT BUILDING IS DOWN, IT WAS DEMOLISHED AND THERE IS AN ACTIVE BUILDING PERMIT.
UM, WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT THAT THEY ARE PLANNING ON INSTALLING THE SCAFFOLDING SOON ALONG MAGNOLIA, UM, AND BEING TO PROTECT THE RIGHT OF WAY WHILE THEY BEGIN CONSTRUCTION.
I HAD A QUICK QUESTION ON THAT ONE.
WHEN THIS PROJECT WAS APPROVED, I THOUGHT WE WERE KEEPING THE SHELL OF THE ORIGINAL BUILDING.
HAVE THEY CHANGED THEIR DESIGN PLAN? OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE NOT KEEPING THE SHELL, BUT ARE THEY GOING TO REBUILD A LOOKALIKE SHELL? SO THEY WERE GOING TO KEEP A FEW OF THE EXTERIOR WALLS.
UM, AND WHEN THEY GOT INTO CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN, THEY DISCOVERED THAT THEY NEEDED TO MODIFY THE, UM, SIDE THAT FACES MAGNOLIA IN ORDER TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEW TRANSFORMER.
SO THAT WALL NEEDED TO COME DOWN.
UM, AND THERE WAS REALLY NOT MUCH LEFT.
AND I THINK THE WALL THAT, UM, IS ADJACENT TO THE BUILDING TO THE EAST, UM, WASN'T IN GOOD SHAPE.
IT WAS JUST BE BEST AT THAT POINT TO, TO IT DOWN AND, AND START FROM SCRATCH.
SO THEY, THEY ARE NOT OBVIOUSLY RETAINING ANY OF THE EXISTING WALLS ANY LONGER, BUT IT WILL STILL BE THE SAME STYLE THAT YOU SAW IN THE APPROVAL, UM, FOR THAT, WHEN THAT PROJECT CAME BEFORE YOU, SO NOTHING IS REALLY CHANGING EXCEPT FOR THE MINOR MODIFICATION THEY HAD TO MAKE ON MAGNOLIA.
AND THEN TWO RECENT APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED, UM, ONE IS TO CONVERT THE, WHAT USED TO BE A CHURCH OF FOUR 70 NORTH MOLLISON OVER NEAR ALCOHOL VALLEY HIGH SCHOOL, UM, TO A NONPROFIT CENTER.
SO NEIGHBORHOOD HEALTH HAS PURCHASED THAT AND WE'LL BE PROVIDING, UM, SOME COMMUNITY SERVICES OUT OF THAT LOCATION.
AND THE OTHER IS THE LEXINGTON SENIOR APARTMENTS PROJECT AT TWO 50 EAST LEXINGTON.
UM, THIS PROJECT WAS RECENTLY THE MANAGEMENT OF IT WAS SOLD TO A NEW COMPANY AND THEY ARE PUTTING, UM, SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF IMPROVEMENTS INTO THE PROPERTY.
A LOT OF IT WILL BE INTERIOR REHABILITATION OF THE UNITS, UM, BUT THEY ARE GOING TO DO A SMALL ADDITION TO IT AND YOU'LL SEE LOTS OF SITE IMPROVEMENTS, NEW LANDSCAPING AND THINGS LIKE THAT, UM, WHICH IS IT'S RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE LIBRARY.
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CONCLUDES WHAT I HAD FOR PROJECT UPDATES.DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT OR PROJECTS RIGHT NOW IN THE CITY? OKAY.
SO THEN THE LAST UPDATE I WANTED TO PROVIDE, UM, AND I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR, THIS IS JUST A VERBAL UPDATE ON OUR WORK, ON THE HOUSING ELEMENT, THE ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ELEMENT AND THE SAFETY ELEMENT.
UM, SO I THINK AT OUR LAST MEETING, I HAD ANNOUNCED THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE HAVING SOME COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND WE'VE HAD, UM, A FEW OF THOSE.
NOW WE HAD TWO MEETINGS, UM, UH, IN SEPTEMBER.
SO HE HAD NO, WE HAD TWO MEETINGS AT THE END OF AUGUST AND ONE MEETING AT THE END OF SEPTEMBER AND ACTUALLY COMMISSIONER POLLOCK BROOD WAS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS WITH US.
AND WE HAVE BEEN SHARING INFORMATION WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AS WELL AS GETTING FEEDBACK ON WHAT PRIORITIES ARE FOR HOUSING, AS WELL AS, UM, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY IMPROVEMENTS AND NEIGHBORHOOD ISSUES RELATED TO ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.
AND SO OUR PLAN RIGHT NOW IS TO WORK ON, UM, SOME OF THE DRAFT POLICY OPTIONS AND START DRAFTING THOSE ELEMENTS AND COME BACK TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE DECEMBER MEETING FOR A WORKSHOP THAT WILL LIKELY FOCUS ON OUR HOUSING ELEMENT AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO MEET OUR REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ALLOCATION THROUGH SITES, UM, AND WHAT THOSE SITES WILL BE.
AND MAYBE SOME OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WILL GO ALONG WITH THAT.
SO WE SHOULD EXPECT SOME DRAFT ELEMENTS HERE IN THE FALL, AND THEN WE'LL BE MOVING FORWARD TO PUBLIC HEARINGS IN THE SPRING.
SO IN THE MARCH AND APRIL TIMEFRAME ON THE HOUSING ELEMENT, IF A LOT OF IT, IS IT JUST GOING TO OVERLAY? SO FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S A LOT OF HOUSING ELEMENT THAT WE DID LAST TIME THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN BUILT.
DOES THAT STUFF JUST KIND OF CARRY THROUGH, YOU HAVE TO START FROM SCRATCH.
HOW DOES THAT WORK? SO WE HAVE TO BASICALLY IDENTIFY SITES ALL OVER AGAIN, SO WE CAN USE SOME OF THE SITES THAT WERE IN THE LAST HOUSING ELEMENT.
UM, AND THEN AFTER WE ADOPTED THE HOUSING ELEMENT, WE WENT AND DID THE MIXED USE OVERLAY AND WE DID THE TRANSIT DISTRICT PLAN.
AND WE DID THOSE VARIOUS PROJECTS THAT KIND OF INCREASED HOW MUCH HOUSING COULD BE BUILT IN THE CITY.
UM, BUT THERE ARE SOME NEW, UM, EXPECTATIONS THAT THE STATE HAS BASED ON LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED LAST YEAR.
SO ANY TIME NOW THAT WE USE A SITE AND OUR NEW HOUSING ELEMENT THAT WAS USED IN THE LAST HOUSING ELEMENT, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL JUSTIFICATION FOR IT.
UM, THEY DON'T WANT US TO JUST KEEP USING THE SAME SITES OVER AND OVER AGAIN, IF THERE'S NOT A CHANCE THAT THERE'LL BE DEVELOPED WITH HOUSING.
UM, SO WE HAVE TO FIND SOME EVIDENCE, EITHER, YOU KNOW, A LANDLORD WHO'S MAYBE INTERESTED IN, UM, OR A PROPERTY OWNER WHO'S INTERESTED IN REDEVELOPING OR MAYBE LEASES THAT ARE SHORT TERM AND WOULD ALLOW FOR, YOU KNOW, NEW HOUSING TO BE ADDED TO THE SITE.
SO WE HAVE TO KIND OF BUNDLE UP THAT KIND OF EVIDENCE TO GO ALONG WITH OUR SITES.
W WHEN YOU SAY JUSTIFICATION, WHAT IS, WHAT, WHAT IS THE STATE TRYING TO DO? SO I UNDERSTAND THEY, THEY DON'T WANT US JUST PICKING HOUSING SITES THAT ARE UNLIKELY TO BE DEVELOPED WITH HOUSING.
SO THEY WANT US TO FIND SITES THAT HAVE A LIKELIHOOD OF BEING DEVELOPED WITH HOUSING.
AND SO IF WE USED ONE IN OUR LAST HOUSING ELEMENT AND IT DIDN'T REDEVELOP WITH HOUSING IN THE LAST EIGHT YEARS, THEY'RE SAYING THAT THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS NOW ON THE CITY TO JUSTIFY USING THAT SITE AGAIN.
SO IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT.
IT DOES, THERE'S NO DEVELOPABLE, THE LAND'S GONE.
I MEAN, WE'VE GOT THE, THAT EIGHT ACRES OR WHATEVER OFF OF EAST MAIN THAT'S PRIVATELY OWNED.
OBVIOUSLY THEY WANT TOO MUCH MONEY FOR IT TO EVER PENCIL OUT WHAT HAPPENS AS WE CONTINUE THESE SMALL INFIELD PROJECTS.
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE'RE OUT OF LAND? WELL, I MEAN, WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH VACANT LAND TO ACCOMMODATE OUR REGIONAL HOUSING NEEDS ALLOCATION.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, OVER 3,200 UNITS, IT HAS TO BE ON LAND THAT CAN BE REPURPOSED OR, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THERE MAY BE SPACE ON A PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
UM, I KNOW PARKWAY PLAZA HAS RECENTLY BEEN IN THE NEWS LATELY WITH THE NEW OWNERSHIP.
THEY'VE INDICATED THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED AND ADDING HOUSING TO THE MALL.
SO IN THAT CASE, YOU KNOW, IF IT COULD BE ADDED THERE WHILE RETAINING THE COMMERCIAL USES, UM, I, THAT WOULD BE A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY, BUT THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR MOVING FORWARD, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE VACANT LAND.
SO I'VE SEEN, UM, LIKE A TON OF HIGH DENSITY HOUSING, OBVIOUSLY DOWN IN MISSION VALLEY, UH, THAT WE'VE SEEN IS, ARE THEY TRYING TO GET US TO DO THAT SAME TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT? NOT NECESSARILY.
I MEAN, THEY, THEY DEFINITELY DO WANT OUR LOWER INCOME SITES TO BE ON, UM, MULTI-FAMILIES OWNED PROPERTIES THAT ALLOW MORE THAN 30 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE.
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UM, BUT THAT'S REALLY NOT A VERY HIGH DENSITY.THAT'S CERTAINLY NOTHING LIKE THEY'RE BUILDING IN MISSION VALLEY.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE ONE OH ONE EAST MAIN STREET PROJECT.
THAT ONE IS ACTUALLY, UM, IF YOU CALCULATE IT OUT, IT'S ABOUT 60 12 UNITS AN ACRE, UM, AND IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT A VERY TALL BUILDING AND NOT VERY LARGE, SO WE CAN DEFINITELY DO DEVELOPMENT THAT'S COMPATIBLE WITH, WITH ALCOHOL AND, AND WHAT OUR GOALS ARE FOR THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CITY, WITHIN THE DENSITY THAT THEY WANT US TO HAVE.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION, MELISSA.
IF YOU HAVE A SITE THAT HAS NOT BEEN DEVELOPED BY ANY DEVELOPER, HOW WOULD THE CITY JUSTIFY THE DEVELOPER DOES NOT WANT TO DEVELOP THAT PARTICULAR SITE? WHAT WOULD BE THE JUSTIFICATION? HOW WOULD YOU LIKE A MIND READER OR ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO ENTICE THE DEVELOPER TO DO WHAT WE WANT THEM TO DO? OR THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
AND I THINK EVERYONE'S BEEN TRYING TO WRAP THEIR HEAD AROUND HOW WE JUSTIFY DEVELOP, YOU KNOW, WHETHER A SITE IT WILL LIKELY BE LIKELY TO REDEVELOP.
UM, I THINK IT'S MORE A WAY OF THE STATE MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE DOING EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN TO PROMOTE AND FACILITATE HOUSING.
SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY CAN DO FURTHER TO HELP THAT, WHETHER THAT'S TO, UM, HELP ENCOURAGE LOT CONSOLIDATION SO PEOPLE CAN PUT PROPERTIES TOGETHER AND, YOU KNOW, GET HOUSING PROJECTS BUILT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S STILL EVOLVING OR WE'RE KIND OF THE GUINEA PIGS WITH THIS IN SAN DIEGO, WHERE THE FIRST, UM, MPO OUT OF THE GATE TO TRY AND TACKLE THIS ISSUE OF HOW DO WE JUSTIFY USING THESE SITES.
AND SO, UM, WE'RE UTILIZING THE SERVICES OF A CONSULTANT, VERONICA TAM, AND ASSOCIATES TO HELP US WITH DEVELOPING THAT JUSTIFICATION.
BUT I THINK IT'S LIKELY GOING TO INVOLVE THINGS LIKE TALKING TO PROPERTY OWNERS, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING, YOU KNOW, WHAT, W WHAT'S PREVENTING YOU FROM ADDING HOUSING TO A SITE OR, OR, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT, ARE THERE REGULATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WE COULD CHANGE THAT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO BUILD HOUSING? HMM.
THERE'S A COUPLE AREAS WHERE THE COUNTY IS KIND OF AN ISLAND OR I'M THINKING LIKE THE GRANITE HILLS AREA, IS IT CHEAPER FOR THE CITY JUST TO KNACK SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES INTO THE CITY RUN SOME SEWER AND WATER LINES THERE, THEN SOME OF THE STUFF YOU GUYS ARE FORCED WITH DOING, WOULD THAT HELP? I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT WOULD NECESSARILY HELP IT'S, IT'S FAIRLY EXPENSIVE TO ANNEX PROPERTY AND PROVIDE SERVICES AT RARELY PROVIDES, UM, A COST BENEFIT TO THE CITY TO DO SO, ESPECIALLY ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE CITY, THAT'S FAIRLY RURAL.
I WOULD IMAGINE IT WOULD STAY RATHER LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
UM, IF, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SOME PROJECTS, I THINK ON THE HORIZON THAT ARE REUSE SITES WHERE THEY'RE TAKING, YOU KNOW, TAKING, UH, FORMER COMMERCIAL PROPERTY AND POTENTIALLY YOU'RE DEMOLISHING THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AND BUILDING HOUSING.
AND THAT'S IN THE CITY WHERE WE HAVE SERVICES WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, AS CLOSE TO TRANSIT.
SO I THINK THOSE ARE IDEAL SITUATIONS.
IT'S JUST WHETHER OR NOT THAT PENCILS OUT AND THE LAND VALUE IS THERE, UM, FOR A DEVELOPER TO DO THAT.
AND I THINK THAT'S BEEN THE CHALLENGE AND I'LL GO HOME.
SURE, MELISSA, UH, I DIDN'T QUITE CATCH THE AUDIO WHO WAS THE CONSULTING FIRM, UH, THE ASSOCIATES THEY'RE HELPING YOU, VERONICA STAMINA ASSOCIATES.
AND, UM, ARE THEY ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE NEW HOUSING ELEMENT? ARE THEY ALLOWED TO CONSIDER THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS WITHIN EVERYBODY'S LOCKED? THAT IS ALLOWED, WE ARE, WE'RE ALLOWED TO COUNT 80 USE, UM, TOWARDS OUR RINA.
AND WE CAN DO THAT BASED ON HOW MANY UNITS WE HAVE BEEN PRODUCING IN THE PAST AND KIND OF CREATE SOMEWHAT OF A TREND LINE BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF 80 BEING BUILT HAS BEEN INCREASING OVER TIME.
SO WE MAY BE ABLE TO COUNT MAYBE 40 DWELLING UNITS PER YEAR, UM, OUT OF OUR 80 USE THAT ARE BEING BUILT, WHICH IS, I THINK DEFINITELY GREAT AND SAID IT'S A GOOD OPTION FOR, FOR NEW HOUSING.
SO I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAD IN TERMS OF, UM, STAFF COMMUNICATIONS.
I DO HAVE ONE MORE ACTUALLY, UM, NEXT WEEK ON TUESDAY AT THE CITY COUNCIL DAY MEETING AT 3:00 PM, THERE WILL BE A PLANNING, UM, PROCLAMATION THAT PAUL WILL BE RECEIVING, UM, UM, ON BEHALF OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND PLANNERS.
UM, BUT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TUNE IN AND LISTEN IN TO THAT, UM, THEY WILL BE READING THAT PROCLAMATION AND THAT'S ON ZOOM
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AND GIL SEND OUT THE ZOOM LINK FOR THAT.AND WE'LL BE SENDING OUT THE LINK.
MR. CIRCLE COMMISSION CIRCLE WILL BE ON ZOOM AS WELL, OR IN-PERSON ON ZOOM.
AND THEN WHAT ABOUT THE SHAKE? AND YOU SHAKE YOUR HAND LIKE THIS.
I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF, UH, STUFF WHEN IT COMES TO THE HOUSING ELEMENT THAT THEY'RE THROWING OUT.
PROBABLY SIX MONTHS, SOME NEW LAW YOU GOT TO PASS OR FOLLOW OR SO GOOD LUCK.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR REPORTS.
UM, IF ANY COMMISSIONERS HAVE ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR REPORTS, THIS IS THE TIME.
THAT MOTION MADE BY COMMISSIONER.
SERCO SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CABRERA.
THIS MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY AND THE MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
RIGHT? THEN WE ADJOURNED TO OCTOBER 20TH AT 7:00 PM.
UNLESS WE HEAR OTHERWISE YOUR NUMBER ONE PADRES.