Mar 09, 2021 City Council Meeting 7pm

WELCOME THEM

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UH, WE'VE DECIDED TO HOLD A HYBRID MEETING THIS EVENING.

I'D LIKE TO REMIND OUR CITIZENS.

THEY CAN SUBMIT QUESTIONS FOR ITEMS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

PUBLIC COMMENTS MAY BE SUBMITTED.

THIS TIME.

COMMENTS WILL BE ACCEPTED UP TO THE CONCLUSION OF THE VOTE OF THE ITEM.

COMMENTS CAN BE SUBMITTED THROUGH THE CITY OF ALCOHOL'S WEBSITE, WHICH IS WWW.CITYOFALCOHOL.US UNDER AGENDAS AND MINUTES.

GO TO VIDEO STREAMING AND YOU'LL SEE A BUTTON TO SUBMIT YOUR COMMENTS.

THE MEETING IS NOW CALLED TO ORDER, AND I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR CITY CLERK TO PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

THANK YOU, SIR.

IF YOU CAN PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU ARE PRESENT WHEN I CALL ON YOUR NAME, MAYOR WELLS CURE.

UM, MAYOR PORTEND, KENDRICK COUNCIL MEMBER GLOBAL COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL COUNCIL MEMBER, OR TESE I'M HERE.

THANK YOU, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

WOULD YOU ALL THEN JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THEN AFTER THAT REMAIN STANDING FOR A BRIEF MOMENT OF SILENCE, READY? BEGIN.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

LET'S START WITH AGENDA CHANGES.

STAFF.

DO YOU HAVE ANY AGENDA CHANGES, COUNSEL, THIS, THE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME,

[ PUBLIC COMMENT: At this time, any person may address a matter within the jurisdiction of the City Council/Housing Authority/Successor Agency to the El Cajon Redevelopment Agency that is not on the Agenda. Comments relating to items on today’s docket are to be taken at the time the item is heard. State law prohibits discussion or action on items not on the Agenda; however, Council, Authority and Agency Members may briefly respond to statements or questions. An item may be placed on a future Agenda.]

HOWEVER, COUNCIL AUTHORITY AND AGENCY MEMBERS MAY BRIEFLY RESPOND TO THE STATEMENTS OR QUESTIONS AND AN ITEM MAY BE PLACED ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

ANGELA, DO WE RECEIVE ANY COMMENTS? NO COMMENTS WERE SUBMITTED, SIR, LET'S GET RIGHT TO IT.

THEN ITEM 100

[100. Interviews for City Commissions RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council conducts interviews for one (1) seat on the Personnel Commission and one (1) seat on the Planning Commission.]

WE WILL START WITH THE APPLICANTS FOR PERSONNEL COMMISSION.

WE RECEIVED SEVEN APPLICATIONS.

THE ORDER OF THE NAMES HAS BEEN DRAWN AT RANDOM BY THE CITY CLERK.

WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM.

OR IF YOU ARE JOINING US VIA ZOOM, I WILL CALL ON YOU TO START YOUR INTERVIEW.

YOU WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK, WHICH MAY BE FOLLOWED WITH QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL.

AND, UH, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I THINK THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS SINCE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE TONIGHT, UH, APPLY FOR BOTH, UH, UH, PERSONNEL COMMISSION AND PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, EVERYBODY WILL GET TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.

AND THEN AT THE END OF THE EVENING, IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO ASK QUESTIONS, I'LL CALL PEOPLE UP INDIVIDUALLY HAD ASKED ME QUESTIONS.

SO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS? OKAY.

ALRIGHT, SIR.

OUR APPLICANTS FOR PERSONNEL COMMISSION, OUR NUMBER ONE HERE IS ROBERT.

UH .

IS THAT, IS THAT THE PR THE PROPER WAY TO PRONOUNCE IT? I THINK HE'S COMING TO US VIA ZOOM, MR. ANGELES.

GOOD EVENING.

YES.

THAT IS THE CORRECT WAY.

THANK YOU.

WELL, THANK YOU.

HI, MR. USELESS.

YOU'VE GOT TWO MINUTES.

THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS ROBERT AND I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF ALCOHOL FOR ABOUT 19 YEARS.

I HAVE WORKED FULL TIME FOR SAN DIEGO STATE UNIVERSITY FOR THE LAST 28 YEARS.

I'M IN THE SPECIAL ADMISSIONS AND RESIDENCY SPECIALIST ON THE CAMPUS AT WHICH I'VE SERVED 20 YEARS AS A UNION STORE, FIVE YEARS AS A UNION CHAPTER PRESIDENT AND MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE CALIFORNIA STATE UNION EMPLOYEES.

AS FAR AS MY EXPERIENCE, AS FAR AS THE STEWARD AND THEN BEING A PRESIDENT OR A UNION OVER THE YEARS, I WORKED WITH EMPLOYEES WHEN THEY BELIEVE THEY HAVE HAD A CASE WHERE THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT OR THE CONTRACT OR A UNIVERSITY POLICY HAS BEEN VIOLATED.

THESE MAY INVOLVE ISSUES THAT TOUCH ON EMPLOYEES, RIGHTS, WAGES, AND WORKING CONDITIONS.

I FIRST MET WITH THE EMPLOYEE FIRST MEET WITH EMPLOYEES, GATHERED FACTS, REFER TO THE CONTRACT OR THE NURSING POLICY TO SEE IF THERE IS A VIOLATION AND THEN PROVIDE COUNSEL FOR NEXT STEPS.

IF THERE IS A VIOLATION, I WRITE UP FOR THE GRIEVANCE OR COMPLAINT AND SUBMIT IT TO HUMAN RESOURCES.

FROM THERE, WE SCHEDULE A TIME WHERE WE MEET WITH THE UNIVERSITY MANAGEMENT, HUMAN

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WHEN WE NEED OUR LABOR RELATIONS REPRESENTATIVE, OUR PROFESSIONAL GET INVOLVED.

SOMETIMES WE REPRESENTED THE EMPLOYEES DURING THE INVESTIGATOR INVESTIGATORY MEETINGS.

OUR GOAL IS TO FIND A RESOLUTION TO THE BUILDING EMPLOYEE.

WE ALSO WORK WITH THEM WITH CLASSIFICATION STANDARDS, ESPECIALLY WHEN EMPLOYEES SEEK RECLASSIFICATION MEMBERS WILL APPROACH US FOR ASSISTANCE TO ENSURE THAT THE JOB REQUIREMENTS MEET THE CLASSIFICATION STANDARDS AS SET BY THE CSU, THE CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY SYSTEM.

WE THEN WE AS A CHAPTER ALSO LOOK AT JOB POSTINGS TO MAKE SURE THAT AGAIN, JOB REQUIREMENTS, JOB REQUIREMENTS, BEING THE CLASSIFICATION STANDARDS.

I AM ALSO A MEMBER OF THE US COAST GUARD AUXILIARY.

THIS LAST SUMMER, I UNDERWENT TRAINING TO BECOME AN INVESTIGATIVE ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATOR LIKE A UNION STEWARD AS AN INVESTIGATOR, COLLECT, ASSEMBLE, ANALYZE, AND RECORD AVAILABLE EVIDENCE ABOUT OUR PARTICULAR INCIDENTS INCIDENT OR MATTERS.

INVESTIGATOR REPORTS PROVIDE THE CONVENING AUTHORITY WITH INFORMATION UPON WHICH THEY CAN MAKE THE DECISIONS ABOUT THE MATTERS BEING INVESTIGATED INVESTIGATIONS PROVIDED THE PARTIES AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD, TO CHALLENGE EVIDENCE AND PRESENT THEIR OWN EVIDENCE REGARDING DETERMINATIONS MAY HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL EFFECT ON THEM.

THIS ALL REQUIRES A GOOD WORKING KNOWLEDGE OF COAST GUARD, AUXILIARY COAST GUARD, AND ARTILLERY, ADMINISTRATIVE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.

MR. MISSILES.

I'M SORRY TO CUT YOU OUT, BUT WITH JUST IN FAIRNESS WORK, WE'VE REACHED OUR TWO MINUTE MARK.

THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE END OF MY COMMENTS.

OH, GOOD.

GOOD.

YEAH, I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANKS VERY MUCH.

AND PLEASE STAY, STAY BY SO THAT WE CAN, UH, MAYBE ASK YOU SOME QUESTIONS AT THE END.

YES, SIR.

UM, YOU THINK YOU COULD TURN THE VOLUME UP A LITTLE BIT? I HAD TROUBLE HEARING HIM.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.

UH, JASON MARTINEZ, ARE YOU HERE? I'M A MARTINEZ.

COME ON DOWN.

OH.

AND BY THE WAY, UM, WE ARE JUST TO BE SAFE.

WE ARE GOING TO CLEAN THE PODIUM IN BETWEEN PEOPLE.

SO IF YOU'RE COMING UP RIGHT AFTER SOMEBODY ELSE, GIVE IT JUST A MINUTE TO BE CLEAN.

I'D APPRECIATE THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

MS. MARTINEZ, YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES, I'D SAY THANK YOU TO THE MAYOR AND THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY.

UM, I AM A LIFELONG EAST COUNTY RESIDENT, 22 YEAR RESIDENT OF EL CAJON.

UM, I CERTAINLY DO NOT HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OF THE PREVIOUS GENTLEMAN.

UM, BENNY LIFELONG EDUCATOR FOR 25 YEARS AND GROSSMONT UNION HIGH SCHOOL DISTRICT PREVIOUSLY WORKED FROM YOUTH UP UNTIL ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO WHEN MY PARENTS GOT ILL WORKED FOR THE CITY OF ALCOHOL AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

AND WHEN I'VE SEEN THIS OPENING ON A FEW PREVIOUS OCCASIONS, IT REALLY JUST STRUCK ME AS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR ME AS A 22 YEAR RESIDENT OF ALCOHOL AND, AND A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF EAST COUNTY.

JUST TO REALLY GIVE BACK, JUST TO GIVE A BRIEF KIND OF JUST LIKE A BRIEF TAKE ON JUST SOME OF MY EXPERIENCES AS AN EDUCATOR.

UM, I REALLY CONSIDER MYSELF A UNIFIER AND A MEDIATOR BETWEEN GROUPS.

MOST OF MY EXPERIENCE IS OBVIOUSLY WORKING WITH STUDENTS AS AN EDUCATOR, BUT ALSO WORKING WITH MY PEERS, WHETHER THAT'S TEACHERS, SCHOOL, COUNSELORS, ADMINISTRATION, I HAVE SERVED TWO YEARS AS AN ADMINISTRATOR.

I HAVE FOUND WAY MORE PLEASURE BEING A HIGH SCHOOL COUNSELOR, BUT IN MY TWO YEARS, AS AN ADMINISTRATOR WORKED WITH NUMEROUS OCCASIONS OF MEDIATIONS ON KIND OF THE UNION SLASH MANAGEMENT FRONT, BUT IN MY JUST MANY, MANY YEARS OF BEING AN EDUCATOR, I HAVE REALLY ENJOYED THAT OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO HELP PEOPLE THAT HAVE REALLY DIVERGENT PERSPECTIVES ON STUFF, KIND OF COME TO A HAPPY MEDIUM OR REALLY A MEDIUM THAT THEY CAN AGREE UPON.

SO, UM, I GUESS I REALLY JUST AM SOMEONE WHO REALLY TRIES TO SEARCH FOR SOLUTIONS AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.

SO THANK YOU.

WELL, THANK YOU, SIR.

WE HAVE MEGAN HOWL THE ASSUME OUR NEXT ONE'S A ZOOM ONE.

SO YOU'VE GOT SOME TIME.

MEGAN, ARE YOU THERE? HI, MEGAN.

ARE YOU READY TO GO? CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? UM, YEAH.

GLENN, YOU CAN START A TIME AGAIN.

ALL RIGHT, MEGAN, YOU'RE GOOD.

YOU'VE GOT TWO MINUTES.

UH, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

MY NAME'S MEGAN HOWELL.

I'M A 25 YEAR RESIDENT OF ALCOHOLISM.

UM, GREW UP IN EAST COUNTY AND LIVE IN FLETCHER HILLS.

UM, I'M CURRENTLY WORKING

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UM, THERE I AM A MEMBER OF OUR EMPLOYEE ASSOCIATION, SO I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF THE STRUGGLES THAT CITY EMPLOYEES FACE WITH RECLASSIFICATIONS AND DISPUTES THAT COME UP BETWEEN SUPERVISORS AND HR AND WHEN THE ASSOCIATION NEEDS TO COME IN.

AND THEN SOMETIMES WHEN AN OUTSIDE AGENCY NEEDS TO COME IN TO ADVISE FOR THOSE ISSUES AS WELL.

UM, BEFORE THAT I WORKED FOR THE YMCA FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS, AND THEN BACK IN THE TWO THOUSANDS, I ACTUALLY WORKED AT THE FLETCHER HILLS POOL.

SO I WAS A CITY OF OKLAHOMA EMPLOYEE FOR ABOUT SEVEN YEARS.

UM, I'VE HELPED OUT WITH SOME OF FRANK CARSON'S EFFORTS WITH HIS 10 MINUTE PARK PROJECT AND ENSURING EQUAL AND EQUITABLE ACCESS TO PARKS, TO EVERYONE IN THE CITY OF ALCOHOL.

AND THAT'S A HUGE PASSION OF MINE.

UM, BUT I'M INTERESTED IN JOINING THE PERSONNEL COMMISSION TO BE ABLE TO HELP EMPLOYEES FEEL REPRESENTED AND KNOW THAT THEIR VOICES ARE BEING HEARD AND THAT THEY'RE VALUED FOR ALL THE AMAZING WORK THEY'RE DOING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH THAT YOU'RE DONE.

I'M DONE.

THAT WAS SUCCINCT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MEGAN.

ALL RIGHT.

STEPHANIE HARPER.

HI STEPHANIE.

WOW.

WE'RE BACK IN THE ROOM.

IT'S KIND OF SURREAL FOR ME TOO.

IT'S REALLY COOL.

LITTLE WAIT.

LET'S WAIT TO MAKE SURE IT GOT THE TIMER SET UP.

YOU WERE GOOD.

OKAY.

YOU'RE ON.

I, WELL, I'M AND I WOULD HAVE TO INTRODUCE MY SELF TO EVERYBODY BECAUSE YOU GUYS ALL KNOW ME.

SO IF SOMEONE ASKS ME WHY I WASN'T RUNNING FOR A COMMISSION AND I NEVER REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT BEFORE, BUT WHEN I STARTED LOOKING INTO IT, IT SEEMED LIKE REALLY SOMETHING THAT I WOULD BE GOOD BECAUSE I'M A VERY PERSONABLE PERSON.

I MIGHT NOT HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF EDUCATION AND ALL THE COLLEGE AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

BUT WHAT I DO KNOW IS JUST BEING FAIR AND PERSISTENT.

UM, I'M A PEOPLE PERSON.

I LOVE WORKING WITH PEOPLE.

AND I THINK THAT I'M THE ALWAYS THE OPPOSITE PERSON OPINION.

SO WHEN IT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ALWAYS PUT MYSELF IN THE OTHER PERSON'S PLACE.

LIKE I ALWAYS DO.

UM, I BELIEVE THAT BEING A GOOD EMPLOYEE STARTS WITH LIKING THE JOB THAT YOU'RE DOING.

SO MY MOTTO IS IF YOU HAVE A JOB THAT YOU LOVE, YOU'LL NEVER WORK A DAY IN YOUR LIFE.

UM, AND YOU GOT, WOULD BE PERFECT FOR THE SEAT BECAUSE, UM, I ALWAYS FIGHT TRUE FOR WHAT IS BEST FOR THE CITY AND FOR THE CITIZENS.

AND, UM, JUST YOU GUYS KNOW, AND I WON'T TAKE UP TOO MUCH MORE OF YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, STEPHANIE.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

ALRIGHT, WELL, GRAHAM DO HIS THING.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT IS KURT BROWER.

MR. BROWER.

WELCOME, SIR.

MY NAME IS KURT BROWER AND I'M APPLYING FOR A POSITION WITH THE POSITION OF I'M SORRY, A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS, UH, PERSONNEL COMMITTEE.

MR. BROWN, CAN YOU PULL YOUR MICROPHONE UP, PLEASE? THANK YOU.

MAYBE YOU CAN PULL YOUR MASK DOWN TO US.

OKAY, SO I'LL START AGAIN.

MY NAME IS KURT BROWER NOW APPLYING FOR POSITION, THE PERSONNEL COMMITTEE WITH THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.

UM, HERE'S SOME REASONS I FEEL I'M A GOOD FIT FOR THE APPOINTMENT.

I THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT.

UM, I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF ALCOHOLISM FOR 52 YEARS AND I'VE ALWAYS ENJOYED BEING ACTIVE IN MY LOCAL COMMUNITY IN MY SPARE TIME.

UM, I SERVED ON THE TRAFFIC COMMISSION WHEN IT WAS IN PLACE, THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.

UM, I ATTENDED THE, UH, CITIZEN POLICE ACADEMY.

IT'S BEEN A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.

I GRADUATED FROM THAT.

UM, I'VE SERVED AS A COMMUNITY SERVICE MEMBER, UH, WITHIN THE OUTCOME POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THE OFFICIAL TITLE, BUT IT WAS UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE CHIEF AT THE TIME WAS JEFF DAVIS.

UM, I'M ALSO A GRADUATE OF THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE LEADERSHIP OF EAST COUNTY PROGRAM.

IN 2004.

I RECENTLY RETIRED FROM ACROSS MOUNT QUEEN MECCA COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT AFTER 42 YEARS OF SERVICE.

UM, DURING MY FIRST 22 YEARS, I WAS A CUSTODIAN GROUNDS MAINTENANCE WORKER.

I SERVED ON IN CLASS WIDE PROFESSIONALS AS THE CLASSIFIED PROFESSIONALS, UH, PRESIDENT DURING 1998 TO 2004, I SERVED ON A NUMBER OF COMMITTEES AS WELL AS JOBS STEWART MAY RUN NEGOTIATING TEAM BENEFITS COMMITTEE AND MANY HIRING COMMITTEES.

I GAINED VALUABLE KNOWLEDGE WORKING WITHIN THE DISTRICT HUMAN RESOURCES.

IN 2004, I WAS HIRED, UH, AS AN OPERATIONS SUPERVISOR WITHIN THE FACILITIES DEPARTMENT, I WAS RESPONSIBLE DAY-TO-DAY AND OPERATIONS, THE FACILITIES, MAINTENANCE, OPERATIONS, STAFF, STAFF, LEADERSHIP, TRAINING, EVALUATIONS, AND SUPPORT.

UM, I SERVED ON THE ADMINISTRATION ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS THE UNION, UH, FOR THE MANAGERS.

AND IN THAT, DURING THAT TIME I STARTED AS A NEGOTIATING TEAM MEMBER.

UH VICE-PRESIDENT AND JOB STUART.

I'M HAPPY TO ASK ANY OTHER ANSWER.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE? SORRY.

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UM, WE'LL BE ASKING QUESTIONS AT THE END.

THANKS.

THANK YOU, SIR.

UM, CYNTHIA ELKINS BY ZUMA, MR. MAYOR, UH, SHE'S CLAIMING SHE DID NOT RECEIVE THE, UM, ZOOM LINK.

SO WE'RE SENDING THAT TO HER RIGHT NOW TO LUPRON.

SO, UM, IF COUNSEL WANTS TO MOVE ON TO PLANNING COMMISSION, BECAUSE I BELIEVE SHE MAY BE THE LAST ONE.

THERE MAY BE ONE MORE.

SO THERE'S, IF THERE'S TIME LET'S LOOP HER IN, BUT IF NOT, WE MAY WANT TO BRING HER BACK IN W WHEN THAT, WELL, I, I KINDA THOUGHT WE WOULD, UM, FINISH THE PERSONNEL COMMISSION, VOTED ON IT AND THEN GONE.

OKAY.

SO IT SHOULDN'T TAKE TOO LONG TO GET HER A LINK, SHOULD IT? NO.

AND WE'VE ACTUALLY SENT IT TO HER ALREADY.

SO WE'RE RESENDING A SECOND LINK.

OKAY.

WAIT FROM HOME.

WELL, THIS IS THE TIME WHEN GRAHAM, WHEN YOU WOULD DO A POETRY READING OR SOMETHING TO ENTERTAIN THE TROOPS.

SO BRING IT DOWN.

I'LL PLAY.

UH, TABITHA IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT, SO WE ARE AT THE END OF THIS WHILE WE'RE WAITING.

DID ANY OF THE COUNSELORS, ONE OF THE, WHY ASK ANY OF THE APPLICANTS WHO HAVE SPOKEN ALREADY? ANY QUESTIONS, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR COMING, MR. BROWER.

THANK YOU.

UM, IF YOU COULD TAKE A MAGIC WAND AND CHANGE ANYTHING ABOUT ALCOHOL AND WHAT W WHAT WOULD YOU CHANGE? OH, GEEZ.

UM, I DON'T KNOW.

I'D PROBABLY BE INTERESTED IN AFTER PERSONNEL THAN THE CITY OF THE PERSONNEL COMMITTEE.

UM, PROBABLY HOMELESS AND, UH, SOME OF THE SITUATIONS WE HAVE ON OUR LOCAL STREETS AND THEN PEOPLE THAT, UH, BE ASSISTANCE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND I'VE GOT A QUESTION FOR MR. BRAUER AS WELL.

WE'LL MAKE SURE WE GET ALL YOUR QUESTIONS STUFF.

YES, SIR.

UH, THIS WILL BE ALSO THE SAME QUESTION FOR MR. AND MS. HOWELL, UH, AS WELL.

UM, YOU'VE BEEN A PART OF, UH, AN EMPLOYEE UNION.

AND SO HOW WOULD THAT BE A STRENGTH YOU BRINGING TO THIS AND WOULD IT BE A HINDRANCE BECAUSE YOU'D BEEN ON ONE SIDE ALREADY? HOW, HOW WOULD THAT NOT HINDER YOU WHEN HEARING THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY? BUT I THINK IT'S A POSITIVE AS A STRENGTH TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF, UH, EMPLOYEE UNION.

SO I HAVE BEEN ON BOTH SIDES OF THE TABLE.

SO THE FIRST 20 YEARS OF MY CAREER AT GROSSMONT COLLEGE, I WAS A CLASSIFIED STAFF MEMBER, UM, AND SERVED AS PRESIDENT.

SO I HAD THAT SIDE OF IT REPRESENTING THE CLASSIFIED STAFF.

THEY WANT TO MOVE TO, INTO THE MANAGEMENT, UM, 2004, THAT WAS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TABLE.

SO THEN I BECAME RESPONSIBLE FOR EVALUATIONS AND WORKING WITH HUMAN RESOURCES WHEN WE HAD EMPLOYEE ISSUES.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WHO ELSE DID YOU WANT TO ASK, OR DID YOU ASK MR. BROWER QUESTIONS? YEAH, GO AHEAD.

THANK YOU, MR. BROWN FOR APPLYING.

UM, YOU'RE VERY INVOLVED IN ELKA HONE.

I HEARD THAT YOU WERE A GRADUATE OF THE EAST COUNTY CHAMBERS LEADERSHIP PROGRAM IN 2004, CORRECT.

I'M ACTUALLY A GRADUATE OF THAT PROGRAM AS WELL.

UM, AND YOU GRADUATED FROM ALCOHOL AND POLICE ACAT CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY.

YES, SIR.

UM, AND THEN YOU JUST RETIRED RECENTLY.

UM, CONGRATULATIONS.

SO

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WELL, I I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO BE INVOLVED IN SOME WAY WITH MY LOCAL COMMUNITY, JUST TO KEEP UP ON WHAT'S GOING ON.

UM, AND BEING RETIRED TO HAVE A LOT OF TIME ON MY HANDS.

I NEED SOMETHING TO DO.

THAT'S GREAT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, STEVE, I THINK YOU HAD SOMEBODY ELSE.

YOU WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION IF I DO ADD THE SAME QUESTION FOR MR. AND MS. HOWELL, I BELIEVE THEY'VE ALSO BEEN PART OF EMPLOYEE ASSOCIATIONS.

SAME QUESTION.

HOW COULD YOU USE YOUR BACKGROUND, UH, AS AN EMPLOYEE ADVOCATE, UH, AS A STRENGTH TOWARDS THIS, AND IS IT ALL, IS IT A HINDRANCE BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN ON ONE SIDE, NOT BOTH SIDES.

HOW, HOW, HOW WOULD THAT WORK? WE'LL START ON THIS FOR YOU SAUCE.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

UM, I BELIEVE MY EXPERIENCE HAVING SERVED AS A UNION STEWARD AND THEN LATER AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, AND AS THE PRESIDENT HAS PROVIDED ME THE OPPORTUNITY WHERE I CAN SEE BOTH SIDES, I HAVE WORKED WITH A LOT OF EMPLOYEES.

I HAVE HEARD SOME OF THEIR COMPLAINTS OR THEIR GRIEVANCES.

I HAVE WORKED WITH THEM, UM, AND LOOKING AT THE NEXT STEPS, LOOKING AT THE CONTRACT AND HELPING THEM SEE WHAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A GRIEVANCE THAT TREND MOVE, THAT, THAT GRIEVANCE FORWARD.

AND IN ORDER TO FIND, UM, SOME RESOLUTION FOR THE INDIVIDUAL, UM, THEY'RE NOT ALWAYS POSITIVE RESOLUTIONS.

AND SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, IT'S HELPING THAT INDIVIDUAL UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE TAKEN IT AS FAR AS WE CAN, OR WE CAN DECIDE ON WHAT'S GOING TO BE THE NEXT STEP, YOU KNOW, DO WE NEED TO TAKE THIS HIGHER? SO HELPING THE INDIVIDUAL AT THAT WAY.

AND WHAT WAS THE SECOND PART OF YOUR QUESTION? UH, WOULD YOU RING ANY BIAS, UH, HAVING BEEN AN EMPLOYEE ADVOCATE BEFORE THAT? WOULD YOU BRING ANY BIAS TOWARDS THE MANAGEMENT SIDE? NO, I DON'T THINK I WOULD.

UM, AND AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S EASY TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT REALLY BEING IN THAT SITUATION, BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT I WOULD TRY TO KEEP BIAS OUT OF IT.

UM, LISTEN TO BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE AND MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THE FACTS.

I BELIEVE THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST WAY I COULD APPROACH THAT.

UH, ONE FINAL QUESTION AND MR. BROWER WANTS TO ANSWER THIS AT A FAIRNESS ALSO, HAVE YOU EVER, UH, ADVOCATED FOR AN EMPLOYEE AND LOST THE, THE, UH, APPEAL OR SOMETHING? AND HOW DID, WHAT DID YOU THINK ABOUT THAT WHEN IT DIDN'T GO YOUR WAY? UM, YES, THERE'S BEEN ONE OR TWO TIMES WHERE THE, UM, THE CASE, THE NOT GO OUR WAY, UH, UNFORTUNATELY FOR THE EMPLOYEE, THEY, THEY DID HAVE TO, AND THERE WERE SOME PUNITIVE, UM, ISSUES THAT WERE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

UM, I BELIEVE WE PRESENTED A GOOD CASE IN THAT SITUATION.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY, SOMETIMES THE FACTS OUTWEIGH THE INFORMATION THAT WE BRING IN.

AND EVEN THOUGH THE EMPLOYEE DID NOT FEEL LIKE COMPLETELY FAIR, WE TRIED OUR, I TRY TO EXPLAIN TO THE EMPLOYEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS THE BEST WE COULD DO AT THE MOMENT, UM, AND THEN PROVIDE THEM ADDITIONAL COUNSEL IF THEY WANT TO TAKE OUTSIDE.

UM, THAT, THAT WAS THEIR CHOICE.

IF THEY DIDN'T BELIEVE THINGS WERE GOING THEIR WAY OR HOW WE PRESENTED OUR CASE OR HOW THE MANAGEMENT, THE ADMINISTRATION DECIDED HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THEIR DECISIONS.

SO HOLD ON.

ABSOLUTELY QUESTION FOR YOU, SIR.

GREAT.

THANK YOU.

UM, AS LONG AS WE'VE GOT MR. EAST LOSS HERE, UH, DID ANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WANT TO ASK MR. SLOSSEN ANY QUESTIONS? NO.

AND STEVE, DID YOU WANT TO ASK, UM, MR. BRAUER, DO YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT IT'S UP TO YOU, UH, WHAT YOU'VE ADDED ADVOCATED FOR SOMEBODY BEFORE THAT DIDN'T GO YOUR WAY? WELL, WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY? I HAVE DONE THAT.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK THE MAIN FOCUS HAS ALWAYS WITH EMPLOYEES ON EITHER SIDE OF THE TABLE THAT WE ALWAYS TRY TO WORK REAL HARD TO GET THE, UH, INTEGRAL JOB BACK ON THE RIGHT TRACK, THE CORRECT TRACK, CORRECT THE BEHAVIOR.

UM, AND THAT'S DONE THROUGH A NUMBER OF THINGS.

WE, THE VIEW IS THE PLAN OF IMPROVEMENTS AND THEN A SPECIAL EVALUATIONS, UM, WORKED WITH ANY AVAILABLE RESOURCES.

WE HAD TO TRY TO KEEP THEM ON TRACK.

UM, SOMETIMES WE FAIL AND WE'RE UNABLE TO DO THAT.

AND I HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED WITH, UH, TERMINATION WHERE WE DIDN'T WIN, UM, IT'S DIFFICULT SITUATION, BUT SOMETIMES THAT'S WHAT THE END RESULT IS.

OKAY,

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THANK YOU.

I THINK IT WAS SPROUT.

OKAY.

UM, THEN I BELIEVE MEGAN, MEGAN, HOW, UM, STEVE, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MEGAN? SAME QUESTION, MEGAN.

UH, THIS, HOW, WHAT EXPERIENCE DOES BEING PART OF AN EMPLOYEE ASSOCIATION, UH, BRING TO AS A STRENGTH TO THAT SIDE? AND COULD YOU, WOULD YOU THINK THAT WE WOULD HAVE A BIAS AGAINST THE MANAGEMENT AND HAVE YOU EVER ADVOCATED FOR AN EMPLOYEE THAT DIDN'T GO YOUR WAY AND WHAT HAPPENED? UH, SO AS A STRENGTH, I DEFINITELY THINK BEING A CITY EMPLOYEE AND PART OF AN ASSOCIATION GIVES ME A UNIQUE VIEW AND DEFINITELY EMPATHY AND UNDERSTANDING TO THE EMPLOYEE.

UM, IN MY CURRENT POSITION, I ALSO HAVE THE UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON MY BUDGET.

SO I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES WITH BARGAINING AND RECLASSIFICATION, YOU'RE BOUND BY THE GENERAL FUND AND THE CITY BUDGET AND THOSE FINANCIAL LIMITATIONS.

AND SO SOMETIMES IN NEGOTIATIONS, THINGS DON'T GO AS PLANNED.

UM, AS A HINDRANCE TO THAT, I HAVE NOT BEEN PART OF ANY TYPE OF, UM, NEGOTIATIONS OR CASES, DISPUTES OR RESOLUTIONS.

AND SO THAT COULD BE A DRAWBACK FOR ME.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MEGAN FROM THE COUNCIL? OKAY.

THANK YOU, MEGAN.

UM, ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR ANY OF THE OTHER APPLICANTS STEVE? I DO.

UH, MR. MARTINEZ, YOU'RE IN THE BUILDING, AREN'T YOU, BY THE WAY, WHILE MR. MARTINEZ IS COMING UP, I'D LIKE TO COMPLIMENT ALL OF THE APPLICANTS FOR REALLY YEARS, DECADES OF INVOLVEMENT AND PARTICIPATION AND CONTRIBUTION ALCOHOL.

AND I'M LOOKING ANYWHERE FROM 20 TO 60 YEARS.

SO WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE HAVING SOME GREAT TALENT TO CHOOSE FROM.

UH, MR. MARTINEZ, YOU HAVE A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN PSYCHOLOGY, YOU'VE BEEN A SCHOOL COUNSELOR.

WHAT WOULD THAT BRING TO THIS POSITION? I THINK REALLY JUST A LISTENING EAR, TRYING TO BE OBJECTIVE, TO HEAR BOTH SIDES OF ANY TYPE OF DISPUTE, AND I THINK REALLY WORKING COLLABORATIVELY AND COLLECTIVELY WITH OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION TO REALLY HAVE A, REALLY A SOUND RECOMMENDATION TO YOU ALL AS A COUNCIL.

AND HOW DO YOU RESOLVE TWO DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON SOMETHING? SOMETIMES YOU DON'T, BUT IN MANY CASES, HOPEFULLY YOU REALLY TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE IS THAT REALITY OR TRUTH, BECAUSE I DO IT WITH TEENAGERS.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY ALL DAY LONG, BUT I DO IT A HIGH PERCENTAGE AND ADULTS ARE DIFFERENT THAN TEENAGERS USUALLY.

BUT, UM, BUT I DO THINK AT THE CORE, IT'S TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO LOOK AT EVEN THEIR OWN, THEIR OWN ACTIONS AND PRACTICES OBJECTIVELY.

AND THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, THAT IS A CHALLENGE, BUT THAT'S KIND OF THE CHALLENGE I'VE TAKEN ON IN 25 PLUS YEARS.

AND, UM, I KNOW THAT CAN HAPPEN WITH ADULTS ALSO, NOT JUST TEENAGERS.

OKAY, GREAT.

THANK YOU.

BEFORE YOU LEAVE, ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO ASK MR. MARTINEZ? ANY QUESTIONS OKAY WITH IT? UM, THANKS MR. MARTINEZ.

UH, STEPHANIE.

HI, MS. HARPER, HOW ARE YOU? HI, MICHELLE.

HOW ARE YOU? GOOD.

UM, QUESTION YOU'VE HEARD, UM, WHAT SOME OF THE OTHER CANDIDATES ARE BRINGING TO THE TABLE.

WHAT SPECIAL SKILL CAN YOU BRING TO THE TABLE THAT IS GOING TO BE DIFFERENT AND MAYBE A LITTLE MORE CONVINCING? WELL, I THINK I WOULD BRING TO THE TABLE JUST A LITTLE BIT OF REALISM.

I HAVE THE REALISTIC, REALISTIC VIEW OF A BUYER.

ALWAYS HEARD A GOOD COMPROMISE IS WHEN BOTH SIDES, EITHER SIDE GETS WHAT THEY WANT.

SO, YOU KNOW, I WOULD THINK I WOULD BRING TO THE TABLE THAT LISTENING AIR, BEING A PEOPLE PERSON, PUTTING MYSELF IN THAT PERSON'S POSITION OF WHY THEY WOULD BE NEEDING THAT, WHY THEY WOULD BE ASKING FOR THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THAT LEADING TO IN THEIR LIFE.

HOW'S THAT AFFECTING THEM, YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE TO COME TO A GOOD COMPROMISE, YOU NEED TO SEE ALL THE ASPECTS OF BEING ABLE TO FIX THE PROBLEM.

AND, UM, WHEN YOU DON'T, WHEN IT DOESN'T WORK, YOU KEEP TRYING AND YOU TRYING, AND YOU'LL FIND A RESOLUTION THAT'S GOING TO MAKE BOTH SIDES.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY HAPPY, BUT THEY'LL BOTH BE GETTING WHAT THEY WANT OR COMPROMISE.

IT'S A HARD THING.

IT'S WHEN NEITHER SIDE GETS WHAT THEY WANT.

SO I THINK I WOULD BRING THAT TO THE TABLE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

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ANYBODY ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. HARPER? THANKS, STEPHANIE.

UM, ALL RIGHT.

ANY MORE QUESTIONS? ANY OF THE APPLICANTS MR. MERRITT, MS. ELKINS IS AVAILABLE VIA ZOOM.

OH, WATERFALL.

MS. COMES.

ARE YOU THERE? HELLO? HI, MS. HAWKINS.

HI.

SO NICE TO KNOW THAT I GET THE INFORMATION FOR THIS INTERVIEW 15 MINUTES AGO, AND NO ONE TELLS ME EXACTLY HOW IT'S GOING TO BE TO WHERE I GO ON ZOOM AT SIX 40 WAITING FOR INFORMATION, AND I GET MESSAGING.

NO MEMBER ID, NO NAME, NO ONE TELLS ME HOW TO LINK WITH ZOOM SHOW YOU GUYS.

AND I KNOW WHY YOU WANT TO EXCLUDE ME FROM INTERVIEWS THAT I'M HIGHLY QUALIFIED FOR.

I LIVED IN ALCOHOL ALL MY LIFE, OR ACTUALLY ALMOST ALL MY LIFE.

I KNOW HOW ALCOHOL HAS RUN.

I KNOW THE DEVELOPMENTS IN THIS CITY.

I KNOW HOW TO HAVE A PERSONNEL PROBLEM.

AND I THINK THE ONLY REASON WHY WE SPLIT IT FROM THIS MEETING IS BECAUSE MR. WELL, SIR, YOU DON'T LIKE ME BECAUSE I LEFT HIM VOICEMAIL.

AFTER VOICEMAIL, AFTER VOICEMAIL, I'VE TOLD YOU OFF IN YOUR VOICEMAIL, I'VE TOLD YOU TO CALL ME AND YOU DID IT.

MOST OF YOUR COUNCIL, PEOPLE KNOW ME BECAUSE I HAVE AN OPINION.

I KNOW HOW THINGS SHOULD BE DONE.

I KNOW HOW THEY SHOULD BE PROPERLY DONE.

AND I KNOW ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE GOING ON IN OUT THE HOME ARE ACTUALLY A WASTE OF TAXPAYER'S TIME AND MONEY.

WE DON'T GET A VOTE.

AND WHAT HAPPENS IN ALCOHOL? WELL, SOMEONE NEEDS A VOICE AND I'M THE VOICE BECAUSE ALL THESE DEVELOPMENTS THAT YOU GUYS GOING ON AND ALL THESE THINGS ARE ZONING AND SO FORTH, BUT YOU GUYS ARE DOING THAT.

WE HAVE NO SAY IN, UNLESS WE GO TO COUNCIL MEETING IS WRONG.

I HAVE EXPERIENCE.

I HAVE A KNOWLEDGE AND I'LL MAKE DAMN SURE THE COUNCIL DOES NOT DO THINGS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN ALCOHOL.

AND I'LL BE A FAIR PERSON WHEN GOING TO HEAR APPEALS OR ANYTHING ELSE FROM EMPLOYEES.

AND AGAIN, I'LL SAY I DON'T APPRECIATE BEING EXCLUDED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS INTERVIEW.

NO ONE TOLD ME I WAS GOING TO BE IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

NO ONE TOLD ME THAT I WAS GOING TO BE HONEST, JIM, IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

AND I DON'T APPRECIATE BEING EMBARRASSED LIKE THIS.

SO ANY QUESTIONS, COUNSEL? ANY QUESTIONS? NO, THANK YOU.

OKAY.

SO COUNSEL COMES THROUGH THE LIBERATION TIME, GARY, UM, TAKE THIS OFF FOR JUST A MINUTE SO EVERYBODY CAN HEAR ME.

WELL, ACTUALLY THERE ARE, UH, THREE CANDIDATES THAT I KNOW A LOT ABOUT.

UH, STEPHANIE IS REALLY CARES ABOUT PEOPLE.

AND THEN, UH, I'VE WORKED WITH HER ON MANY THINGS OVER THE YEARS.

UH, AND, UH, MR. MARTINEZ WAS MY SON'S COUNSELOR AT GROSSMONT MIDDLE COLLEGE.

AND I WAS VERY IMPRESSED ABOUT HOW HE HANDLED HIMSELF.

THAT PROBABLY THE BEST COUNSELOR IN MY THREE KIDS I'VE EVER HAD.

UM, AND THEN KURT BROWER, WHEN I WAS ON THE GROSSMONT QUEEN MECCA COMMUNITY COLLEGE DISTRICT GOVERNING BOARD, UH, HE WAS THERE, UH, REPRESENTING, UH, CLASSIFIED EMPLOYEES AND THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S 25 YEARS.

I'VE KNOWN KURT AND I'VE WATCHED HIM IN HIS CAREER AND HE DID A REALLY GREAT JOB WITH THE CLASSIFIED EMPLOYEES.

HE'S GOT REALLY GREAT DIPLOMATIC SKILLS.

UM, I'D ALWAYS SEEMED THAT WE CAME WHEN THERE WAS A PROBLEM.

KURT GOT INVOLVED, IT WAS ALWAYS SEEM TO BE A WIN-WIN.

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SO HE'S WORN BOTH HATS.

AND, UH, I WATCHED HIM ON THE, UH, TRAFFIC COMMISSION AND SOMETIMES THAT GETS PRETTY ROUGH AND TUMBLE WHEN, WHEN THE CITIZENS ARE UPSET AND HE WAS A VERY CALMING INFLUENCE ON THAT COMMISSION.

SO, UH, MY CHOICE WOULD BE KURT BROWER.

ALL RIGHT.

BEFORE WE TAKE A MOTION, LET'S SEE WHAT OTHER FOLKS HAVE TO SAY.

YEAH, SURE.

PHIL, THANK YOU.

AS MY COLLEAGUE HERE, COUNCILMAN GOEBEL SAID, I THINK WE HAVE A GOOD PROBLEM HERE WHERE WE HAVE AN IMMENSE AMOUNT OF APPLICANTS THAT ARE EXTREMELY QUALIFIED AND, UM, HAVE THE EXPERIENCE.

I THINK, ESPECIALLY IN MR. EAST LOSSES EXPERIENCE, HE COULD MEDIATE BETWEEN FORTUNE 500 COMPANIES IF THAT'S AN EXTREMELY IMPRESSIVE RESUME AND EXPERIENCE.

UM, SO I THINK HE HE'S A GOOD CANDIDATE.

UM, MR. MARTINEZ STRUCK ME AS SOMEONE THAT'S INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, A GENUINE, UH, INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY.

I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THESE CANDIDATES.

UM, ANYONE THAT WORKS WITH YOUTH IS INVESTED IN THE COMMUNITY AND I RESPECT THAT TREMENDOUSLY.

UM, AND MR. BROWER, I THINK HAS SHOWN TREMENDOUS INVESTMENT IN OUR COMMUNITY, VOLUNTEER IN A VOLUNTEER CAPACITY, BEING PART OF THE LEADERSHIP PROGRAM THROUGH THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

THAT'S NOT A LIGHT ORDER THAT THAT'S A, I'VE BEEN A PART OF THAT'S A YEAR LONG COMMITMENT, UM, TO BE A PART OF THAT, AS WELL AS THE, UH, CITIZENS POLICE ACADEMY THROUGH THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.

AND I W I VALUE, UM, PEOPLE WHO HAVE DEMONSTRATED EXTRA ORDINARY VOLUNTEER SERVICE TO THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.

UH, I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE HIGHEST QUALITIES THAT YOU CAN, THAT YOU CAN HAVE WHEN LOOKING TO SERVE ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION OR CITY COUNCIL OR WHATEVER IT IS CAUSE THERE'S NOTHING STRONGER THAN THE HEART OF A VOLUNTEER.

AND, UM, I THINK, UH, MR. MARTINEZ AND MR. BROWER DISPLAYED THAT I WOULD, I'M VERY IMPRESSIVE, MR. BROWER AS WELL.

UM, THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO WIN? SEE, UH, I'M DOWN TO FOUR, UH, MR. MARTINEZ HAS THE, UH, HOW THE MEDIATION EXPERIENCE.

I THINK THAT I LIKE IN TERMS OF A COUNSELOR, UM, I THINK THAT'S, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE BOTH SIDES.

AND I THINK CERTAINLY AS A COUNSELOR, YOU HAVE TO TRY TO, TO, UH, TO MEDIATE THINGS, MR. EAST LOS IS VERY STRONG, UH, AT A, AT A HIGH LEVEL, AT A UNIVERSITY LEVEL, AND ALSO HAS THAT KIND OF EXPERIENCE.

AND I WAS HAPPY WITH HIS ANSWERS ON, ON, UH, HIS EXPERIENCE AND HOW WOULD IT, IT WOULD BE A STRENGTH OF THE CONDITION.

MS. HOWELL IS ALSO VERY STRONG.

I'M REALLY APPRECIATIVE THAT SHE IS PART OF CAME UP FROM THE CITY OF ALCOHOL AND, AND RECREATION.

I THINK SHE IS ALSO HAD SOME GREAT ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD FOR HER AS WELL.

UH, MR. BROWER, UH, DOES STAND OUT QUITE A BIT.

HE HAS A LOT OF, UH, KNOWN SERVICE TO ELKA HONE AND, UH, CERTAINLY HAS, I THINK PROBABLY THE LONGEST TRACK RECORD OF THE FOUR IN TERMS OF VOLUNTEERISM AND SERVICE TO THE CITY.

THAT'S HOW, HOW I LANDED ON THOSE FOUR.

OKAY.

THANKS.

YOU DO WE HAVE YOUR MIC? HOLD ON.

YOU MIGHT WANT, THERE WE GO.

SO I THINK MR. EAST LOS DEFINITELY HAS A LOT OF STRONG EXPERIENCE.

MR. MARTINEZ DEFINITELY, UM, BRINGS IN THAT LISTENING THE COUNSELING, UH, ASPECT.

I THINK MS. HARPER HAS A REAL PASSION FOR THE CITY.

UM, I THINK SHE WOULD

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AND, UM, SO THOSE ARE MY THREE STRONG CANDIDATES RIGHT NOW.

OKAY.

WELL, GOSH, THERE'S SO MANY GOOD, GOOD ANSWERS.

REALLY? NO, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S THE KIND OF THING YOU SAY, BUT SERIOUSLY, I WISH WE HAD FOUR SPOTS OPEN TONIGHT.

UM, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH REALLY WHATEVER THE COUNCIL, UH, CHOOSES.

I, I CAN SUPPORT ANY OF THESE CANDIDATES.

SO CARRIE I'LL MAKE THEM THAT WE APPOINT, UH, KURT BROWER TO THE PERSONNEL COMMISSION.

I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

MAYOR WELTS YOUR VOTE PLEASE.

YES.

MAYOR PRO TEM.

KENDRICK.

YES.

REMEMBER GOOGLE? YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL.

YES.

COUNCIL MEMBER ORTIZ.

MY VOTE IS YES.

MOTION CARRIES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE AGAIN.

THANK YOU ALL FOR PARTICIPATING AND FOR PUTTING YOURSELVES OUT THERE, IT MEANS A LOT TO US AND, UH, IT SHOWS THAT WE'VE GOT A DEEP BENCH HERE IN ALCOHOL AND THERE'LL BE OTHER THINGS TO APPLY FOR.

UH, DON'T BE SHY.

UM, I, I GET THAT.

I CAN SPEAK FOR ALL OF US THAT WE APPLIED SEVERAL TIMES.

UH, I THINK I GOT PLANNING COMMISSION ON MY THIRD TRY.

I LUCKED OUT.

I GOT MY SECOND TRY.

NO THIRD, ACTUALLY THIRD.

SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THAT AND I DON'T WANT TO DISCOURAGE ANYBODY, SO I HOPE WE SEE YOU ALL AGAIN.

OKAY.

LET'S MOVE ON THEN.

UM, TO, UM, OH, WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THE, UH, LET'S SIGN UP.

LET'S GO AHEAD AND SWEAR IN OUR NEW COMMISSIONER AND LESS, UH, GRAHAM, YOU HAD A THOUGHT, UM, UM, MS. BROWER, I'M GOING TO LEAVE IT UP TO YOU.

UH, WE CAN SWEAR YOU IN TONIGHT OR YOU CAN COME BACK TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AND BRING SOME FAMILY AND TAKE PHOTOS AND, UH, HAVE A PARADE, YOU KNOW, TH THAT W WHAT WOULD YOU RATHER DO? OKAY.

LET'S UH, LET'S GO AHEAD AND GET IT DONE.

START IF YOU WANT TO COME UP HERE.

AND MS. CORTEZ WILL SWEAR YOU IN, SOMEBODY USED TO TAKE A PICTURE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, FAITH AND ALLEGIANCE, THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION TO THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

CONGRATULATIONS, SIR, YOU DO KNOW THE SALARY FOR THIS DRIVER.

WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT THAT BEFORE.

ALL RIGHT.

NOW WE'RE MOVING ON TO PLANNING COMMISSION APPLICANTS.

AGAIN, THE ORDER OF THE NAMES HAVE BEEN DRAWN AT RANDOM.

WE RECEIVED NINE APPLICATIONS FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION VACANCY.

AND WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM.

OR IF YOU'RE JOINING US VIA ZOOM, I WILL CALL ON YOU TO START YOUR INTERVIEW.

YOU WILL BE GIVEN TWO MINUTES TO SPEAK.

AND, UH, JUST LIKE LAST TIME I WILL GO AHEAD AND PUT OFF QUESTIONS TILL THE END AT THE COUNCIL'S DISCRETION.

LET'S START THEN WITH VINCENT OR TEAS.

MR. ORTIZ, HOW ARE YA?

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GOOD.

NOW YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT CONNECTED TO THIS HORSE IN ADAM, I SUPPOSE.

NO RELATION.

THERE'S NO NEPOTISM.

OKAY.

NEVER HEARD THAT NAME BEFORE.

SORRY.

ALL RIGHT, WELCOME.

YOU'VE GOT YOU.

YOU'VE GOT TWO MINUTES WHEN YOU'RE READY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

I BUCK CREATED AS A GOOD TEACHER, A FORMER TEACHER I'VE CREATED A ONE-PAGE SUMMARY IF, UM, IF ANYONE WANTS TO SEE IT AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

MY GOAL FOR THIS PARTICULAR PRESENTATION IS TO BE TRANSPARENT REGARDING MY PAST EXPERIENCES AND TO OFFER MY SERVICE.

IF EVERYTHING LOOKS POSITIVE TO BOTH YOU AND ME, I, UM, GRADUATED.

I'M GOING THROUGH, UM, FIVE PHASES IN MY LIFE HERE, GRADUATING FROM USIU WHEN, UM, IN 1970, IT IS NOW, UH, LOMA NAZARENE COLLEGE, OR RATHER A UNIVERSITY.

AND WHILE THERE I, UH, VOLUNTEERED TO HELP PUT ON A MUSICAL.

AND, UM, I WORKED, UH, ALSO PART TIME, UH, AT, UH, SAN DIEGO HIGH SCHOOL, WORKING THROUGH UNIVERSITY IN THAT WAY.

AND I SAW A LOT OF INTERACTION THERE, AND I ALSO TAUGHT ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE NIGHT SCHOOL AFTER GRADUATION IN THE ADULT DIVISION AT, UM, UH, MEMORIAL, UM, ADULT SCHOOL.

MY, MY FATHER TAUGHT 10 YEARS AT MEMORIAL JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL.

SO IT WAS KIND OF IN THE FAMILY.

THEY, Y WE SENSED A, A CALL TO THE MINISTRY.

I ATTENDED PRAIRIE BIBLE INSTITUTE FROM 1971 TO 74.

I WAS IN THE ORCHESTRA THERE AND HELPED PUT ON PRESENTATIONS FOR THE, UH, THE SCHOOL AND VOLUNTEER TO BE IN A, UH, COMMITTEE TO CREATE A POSITIVE, ENCOURAGING, AND ENCOURAGING CHALLENGE TO GRADUATING SENIORS.

AND THEN IN THE MINISTRY FROM 1974 TO 1986, WE STARTED A CHURCH IN OAK HARBOR, WASHINGTON STATE, UH, NAVAL AIR STATION WOULD BE AS THERE.

AND, UH, WE STARTED THAT IN 1974, AND IT'S STILL THERE.

1980 TO 83.

I WENT TO WESTMINSTER, THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY FOR FURTHER EDUCATION, AND I TAUGHT, UH, ESL NIGHT SCHOOL IN THE ESCONDIDO ADULT SCHOOL ON THE WEEKENDS.

I HELPED THE CHURCH WITH, UH, VISITATION, UH, RESPONSIBILITIES.

AND I ALSO WORKED PART-TIME WITH LAOTIAN REFUGEE MINISTRY SORORITIES.

YEAH.

I HATE TO DO THIS TO YOU.

WE'VE WE'RE OUT OF TIME.

IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO SAY TO FINISH UP ANYTIME I, UH, HELP WITH ANY GROUP, WHATEVER IT IS I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE WITH INTEGRITY CONDUCTED IN INTEGRITY AND CONCLUDED WITH INTEGRITY.

THANK YOU MUCH.

THANKS.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, BY ZOOM, WE'VE GOT HENRY RUSSELL.

.

HELLO.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? HENRY GENTLEMEN, I HEAR YOU.

YOU, I DON'T SEE YOU.

YOU'RE ON ZOOM.

I AM ON.

THANK YOU.

I JUST, AS EITHER MY APOLOGIES.

YES.

I'D LIKE TO BE A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION BECAUSE I'VE SPENT MY WHOLE LIFE WHEN I'M NOT WORKING, NOT CONTRIBUTING TO WHAT I CAN.

AND VARIOUS AREAS.

BACKGROUND CONSISTS OF LIVING HERE FOR OVER 30 YEARS IN THE CITY OF ALCOHOL.

AND OVER 50 YEARS HERE IN EAST COUNTY, OTHER THAN WHERE THE MARINE CORPS HAS PLACED ME, I'VE ALWAYS LIVED HERE AND I'D LIKE TO COMPETE, CONTINUE CONTRIBUTING TO MY COMMUNITY HERE.

MY PRIMARY FOCUS HAS BEEN WITH THE HOMELESS AND WITH HOMELESS VETERANS.

RECENTLY, AS FAR AS MY CREDENTIALS, I LIKE TO PUT FORWARD AT THAT, UH, AS A TECHNICAL IT PERSON, I'VE DONE EVERYTHING FROM COMPLIANCE MANAGEMENT TO PROJECT MANAGEMENT, WHICH HAS INCLUDED EVERYTHING FROM THE GROUND UP BUILDS TO SIMPLE SOFTWARE INSTALLATIONS.

BUT THE EMPHASIS HERE FOR A PLANNING COMMISSIONER WOULD BE THE ABILITY THAT HAD TO DEVELOP WORKING WITH VENDORS AS WELL AS THE CLIENT TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING MEETS THE STANDARDS AND REQUIREMENTS AS SET BY BOTH LAW AND CONTRACT.

I JUST HAVE ONE LAST FINAL THING TO ADD TO WHY IS IT ALWAYS JUST TWO MINUTES AND NEVER THREE.

YOU STILL GOT SOME TIME.

I DO.

OH, GOOD.

UM, WELL, ADD TO THAT.

I JUST FEEL THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT EVERY MEMBER TRIED TO DO WHAT THEY CAN FOR THEIR COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S WHY I'M OKAY.

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JUST, UH, PLEASE STAY WITH US.

AND, UH, THERE MIGHT BE SOME QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

UM, ELIZABETH VELEZ.

HI, DR.

BROWNS, DR.

WELLS, HOW ARE YOU? I'M GOOD.

HOW ARE YOU? GREAT.

SO MY NAME IS ELIZABETH BIAS, AND I AM A NURSE PRACTITIONER AT RADY CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL, AND I OWN A HEALTH COACHING BUSINESS.

I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY, TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS OF ALCOHOL ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION.

I'VE BEEN A HOMEOWNER IN ALCOHOL FOR OVER 18 YEARS AND LIVED IN EAST COUNTY FOR MOST OF MY LIFE.

I HAVE ENJOYED SEEING THE QUALITY DEVELOPMENTS OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS THAT HAVE BROUGHT NEW HOMES AND BUSINESSES TO OUR CITY.

I MARVEL AT THE TRANSFORMING PROJECTS IN OUR CITY, INCLUDING LEGACY HOMES, MAIN RANCH HOMES, SOUTH MAGNOLIA RESIDENCES, THE COURTYARD BY MARRIOTT HAMPTON IN TEXAS ROADHOUSE, THE MAGNOLIA ENTERTAINMENT BUILDING MERCEDES-BENZ BMW AND MAZDA DEALERSHIPS.

THE ANIMAL SHELTER AND SALVATION ARMY COMMUNITY CENTER ARE JUST A FEW EXAMPLES THAT MODERNIZATION AS HAS SHOWCASED OUR CITY.

I SERVED ON THE EAST COUNTY HOMELESS TASK FORCE AS THE YOUTH SOLUTIONS GROUP CO-CHAIR.

AND DURING MY TIME AS CO-CHAIR, WE ARE A GROUP, UH, PARTNERED WITH GOOD SHEPHERD MINISTRIES TO START A YOUTH MENTORING PROGRAM AND URBAN STREET ANGELS AND EASTERN LIGHTS TO SUPPORT A YOUTH SHELTER TWO TIMES A MONTH AT MERIDIAN BAPTIST CHURCH, AS PART OF THE TASK FORCE I HAVE ENJOYED WORKING WITH AND SUPPORTING THE EAST COUNTY TRANSITIONAL LIVING CENTER HOMESTART AND THE SALVATION ARMY TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THOSE AT RISK, FOR, OR ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

I HAVE A PASSION FOR HELPING PEOPLE AND ESPECIALLY HELPING THOSE THAT LIVE AND WORK IN OKLAHOMA TO EXPERIENCE THEIR BEST LIFE.

I WANT OTHERS TO SEE THE BENEFITS OF LIVING, WORKING AND ENJOYING THE BUSINESSES.

ALCOHOL HAS TO OFFER THE CHALLENGES OF COVID HAVE IMPACTED THESE BUSINESSES, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT CAN'T BE TURNED AROUND.

EVERY BUSINESS WAS IMPACTED BY THE PANDEMIC, AND WE HAVE TO FIND CREATIVE SOLUTIONS TO TRY AND STAY IN BUSINESS OR RISK SHUTTING DOWN.

I HAVE THE ACADEMIC BACKGROUND AND PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE TO FIND, TO TAKE A PROBLEM, FIND A SOLUTION, AND EXECUTE THE PLAN TO MAKE IT A REALITY.

I AM HONORED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY OF BEING ABLE TO WORK ON FUTURE PROJECTS THROUGH THE PLANNING COMMISSION, INCLUDING UPDATES TO THE HOUSING AND SAFETY ELEMENTS OF THE GENERAL PLAN AND DEVELOPING THE NEW ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE ELEMENT.

AND I JUST HAVE TWO MORE SENTENCES.

I AM EXCITED FOR THE POSSIBILITIES OF CONTINUED GROWTH HERE IN OKLAHOMA, FOR HOUSING BUSINESSES AND ENTERTAINMENT, AS WELL AS FINDING SOLUTIONS FOR THOSE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

AND AS A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I WOULD COMMISSION, I WOULD USE MY EXPERIENCE TO BRING FORTH IDEAS, WORK WITH OTHERS, TO FIND SOLUTIONS AND BRING THEM TO FRUITION, TO BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS AND VISITORS IN OUR FINE CITY OF ALCOHOL.

THANK YOU.

THANKS.

I APPRECIATE IT.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT, UH, BY ZOOM IS SHEILA SNYDER.

GOOD EVENING.

I'M HERE.

HI, I CAN'T SEE YOU YET, BUT WE'RE WORKING ON IT.

IT TO KICK ME OFF, YOUR HONOR.