Dec 22, 2020 City Council Meeting - Special

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OF THE CITY COUNCIL, THE SPINNING

[ CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Bill Wells]

THANK YOU, SIR.

UM, MAYOR WILLS, DEPUTY MAYOR ORTIZ.

I'M NO LONGER DEPUTY MAYOR DECEMBER, SIR.

OH, I AM.

OH, OKAY, COOL.

I DON'T CARE.

HOW ABOUT IT? COUNCIL MEMBER OF GLOBAL COUNCIL MEMBER, KENDRICK AND COUNCIL MEMBER MITCHELL HERE.

THANK YOU.

WOULD YOU PLEASE JOIN ME IN RECITING THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FOLLOWED BY A BRIEF MOMENT OF SILENCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FIRE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.

OKAY.

I'D LIKE TO REMIND OUR CITIZENS.

THEY CAN SUBMIT THEIR QUESTIONS FOR THE ITEM ON TODAY'S AGENDA.

I ENCOURAGE THE COMMENTS BE SUBMITTED AT THIS TIME.

AND COMMENTS WILL BE ACCEPTED UP TO THE CONCLUSION OF THE VOTE OF THIS ITEM.

COMMENTS MAY BE SUBMITTED THROUGH THE CITY OF ALCOHOL'S WEBSITE.

THAT'S CITY OF ALCOHOL.US UNDER AGENDAS AND MINUTES.

GO TO THE VIDEO VIDEO STREAMING AND YOU'LL SEE A BUTTON TO SUBMIT YOUR COMMENTS.

THAT'S CITY OF ALCOHOL.US

[1. Emergency Allocation of Community Development Block Grant - CARES Act Funds RECOMMENDATION: That the City Council considers allocating CDBG-CV3 funds to implement a pilot program to provide air filtration devices to income-eligible residents to slow the spread of COVID-19 infection in the City of El Cajon. ]

AND I WILL ASK OUR STAFF TO TELL US ALL ABOUT THIS.

THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

I'M GOING TO SHARE SCREEN REALLY FAST.

GOOD.

IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT HARD TO FIND, YOU KNOW, THAT MANY DOCUMENTS OPEN.

HERE WE GO.

ALL RIGHT.

CAN THE COUNCIL SEE THAT? YES.

YES.

ALL RIGHT.

WONDERFUL.

SO, UM, THE PURPOSE OF TODAY'S AGENDA IS TO PRELIMINARILY CONSIDER HOW TO ALLOCATE OUR, THE CITY'S CDBG CV THREE FUNDS.

AND I'LL EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS IN JUST A SECOND.

AS A REMINDER, UH, THE COUNCIL HAS BEEN ALLOCATED TWO ROUNDS OF THESE MONIES, UM, AND THESE ARE WHAT ARE CALLED COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS, AND THEY ARE ADDITIONAL FUNDS GIVEN TO THE CITY BY WAY OF THE FEDERAL CARES ACT.

UM, THE FIRST ALLOCATION WAS A LITTLE OVER $800,000.

THIS KIND OF SHOWS, UH, THE COWS ON THE PUBLIC, HOW THOSE FUNDS WERE ALLOCATED BY THE CITY COUNCIL.

SO THERE WAS REALLY THREE PROGRAMS THAT THE COUNCIL WAS FOCUSING ON A RENTAL MORTGAGE AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM.

UM, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY LEFT OVER IN THAT FUND, UH, MOTEL VOUCHER PROGRAM.

THERE'S NO MONEY LEFT OVER IN THAT FUND.

AND THEN THE EMERGENCY SHELTER PROGRAM, WHICH IS PAYING FOR SOME ADDITIONAL BEDS AT E CTLC.

AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY LEFT THERE TOO.

SO ALL IN ALL, THERE'S ABOUT $250,000 LEFT.

UM, WE WE'RE ACTUALLY SHIFTING SOME OF THE MONEY IN THE, UM, UTILITY MORTGAGE AND RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS FROM SOME OF OUR PROVIDERS.

UH, AND THERE'S, THERE'S FOUR DIFFERENT VENDORS THAT HAVE BEEN HELPING WITH THIS, BUT WE'RE SHIFTING SOME MONEY FROM ONE TO HOMESTART WHO HAS BEEN ABLE TO GET THE MONEY OUT ON THE STREET A LITTLE MORE EFFECTIVELY, UM, THROUGH, THROUGH, UH, THE EXPENDITURE OF A LITTLE OVER HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO HELP AS A CITY 621 HOUSEHOLDS, PRETTY IMPRESSIVE IN THE MAJORITY OF THOSE HAVE COME THROUGH EMERGENCY SHELTER HOUSING.

UM, THE CITY RECEIVED NOTICE IN OCTOBER EARLIER THIS YEAR THAT IT WAS DUE ANOTHER MILLION DOLLARS OF THIS CDBG FUNDS.

AND THAT SECOND ROUND IS REFERRED TO AS CDBG CV THREE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT TODAY.

BACK IN OCTOBER, THE CITY COUNCIL ALLOCATED A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS MORE TO THE RENTAL MORTGAGE AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE PROGRAM TO AUGMENT THAT PROGRAM AND, UH, ALLOCATED ANOTHER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO THE MOTEL VOUCHER PROGRAM.

SO THOSE MONIES ARE CURRENTLY BEING SPENT IN THOSE TWO DIFFERENT PROGRAMS. UM, WE, I SHOULD SAY WE'RE SPENDING THAT IN THE MOTEL VOUCHER PROGRAM, WE HAVEN'T SPENT ANY IN THE MORTGAGE RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAM UNTIL THE REMAINDER OF THOSE FUNDS ARE SPENT FROM THE FIRST

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ONCE THOSE ARE SPENT, THEN, THEN WE'LL FOCUS ON THE SECOND, UM, SECOND ROUND.

SO, SO AFTER THE, UM, $200,000 HAVE BEEN ALLOCATED, WE'RE LEFT WITH ABOUT $800,000 THAT THE COUNCIL AT SOME POINT NEEDS TO CONSIDER HOW TO ALLOCATE THE WAY YOU DO THAT AS A, AS A ELECTED BODY IS THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING.

AND AS THE STAFF REPORT INDICATES, TODAY'S MEETING IS NOT A, UM, A NOTICE PUBLIC HEARING THAT NEEDS THE HUD REQUIREMENTS.

HOWEVER, WE THOUGHT THERE COULD BE SOME VALUE IN AT LEAST GETTING SOME GENERAL DIRECTION FROM THE COUNCIL TODAY THAT WOULD HELP US PREPARE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING COMING UP THE FIRST OR THE FIRST COUNCIL MEETING IN JANUARY.

SO, UM, SO, UM, WHAT WE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT TODAY IS IT'S A, UM, AN IDEA THAT STAFF WAS APPROACHED TO APPROACH BY COUNCIL MEMBER GOEBEL.

AND THE IDEA CAME ABOUT, UM, LOOKING AT OUR DATA.

IF YOU LOOK AT OUR INFECTION DATA, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT, UM, THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA, AS WELL AS, UH, LAKESIDE, SPRING VALLEY, NATIONAL CITY, WE ALL HAVE PRETTY HIGH INFECTION RATES.

AND I THINK THERE'S, THERE'S A COUPLE OF SIMILARITIES BETWEEN THOSE COMMUNITIES.

AND A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE TYPE OF HOUSING THAT, THAT A LOT OF OUR COMMUNITIES HAVE, UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE DENSITY IN, IN SORT OF OUR CORE, UH, MULTI-GENERATIONAL FAMILIES LIVING TOGETHER, OR SEVERAL DIFFERENT FAMILIES LIVING TOGETHER, JUST BECAUSE OF THE AFFORDABILITY OF HOUSING IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.

UM, WE ALSO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT DON'T HAVE THE LUXURY OF WORKING FROM HOME OR, OR TELECOMMUTING THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO GO TO TYPES OF JOBS, WHERE THEY HAVE GREATER RISK OF EXPOSURE.

SO JUST THE NATURE OF OUR DEMOGRAPHICS, UH, RESULTS IN THAT.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT JUST A COUNTY COUNTY-WIDE, UM, THOSE DEMOGRAPHICS PLAY OUT TIME AND TIME AGAIN, REGARDLESS OF WHAT COMMUNITY, BUT BECAUSE OUR COMMUNITY HAS A REALLY HIGH PERCENTAGE OF OUR, UM, CITIZENS ARE DEEMED LOW INCOME.

UM, WE ARE GOING TO BE MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO THAT.

SO THE IDEA OF, UH, HERE WE HAVE A COMMUNITY, OR WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN THE CITY OF ELK HOME THAT HAVE HIGHER DENSITY, UH, MANY PEOPLE LIVING IN SMALLER APARTMENT COMPLEXES.

THERE IS SOME VALUE IN THINKING ABOUT HOW TO GIVE THEM SOME ADDITIONAL PROTECTION.

AND SO ONE WAY TO GIVE THEM PROTECTION WOULD BE TO GIVE THOSE FAMILIES OR THOSE HOUSEHOLDS, AN AIR FILTRATION OR AIR PURIFICATION SYSTEM, WHICH ALONG WITH OTHER TYPES OF, UM, WEARING MASS AND SANITATION CAN HELP, UH, CURB THE SPREAD OF INFECTION THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

AND WE, UM, HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT ONE OF THOSE LOOKS LIKE.

SO, UM, THE IDEA WOULD BE WE WOULD HELP COMBAT OR MITIGATE SOME OF THE FACTORS THAT WE DON'T CONTROL WITH SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONTROL.

UM, IF, IF THE COUNCIL WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD IN THIS DIRECTION, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THIS BE START OUT AS A PILOT PROGRAM.

WE, WE DON'T KNOW HOW EFFECTIVE THIS PROGRAM WOULD BE.

UH, AT LEAST STAFF IS, IS NOT CONFIDENT THAT, UM, THERE'S, THERE'S MEASURABLE, UM, UH, PRIOR PROJECTS THAT HAVE SHOWN THAT THIS WORKS.

SO WE WILL BE ON THE CUTTING EDGE OF UTILIZING THESE FUNDS.

SO WE WOULD RECOMMEND REFERRING TO IT AS A PILOT PROGRAM.

UH, I SHOULD POINT OUT THAT BECAUSE OF THE TYPES OF FUNDS, THESE ARE, THEY CAN ONLY BE ALLOCATED TO LOW-INCOME INDIVIDUALS THAT MEET THE HUD REQUIREMENTS FOR, FOR LOW INCOME HOUSEHOLDS.

AND WE WOULD RECOMMEND, UM, AS A STARTING POINT, IF THE COUNCIL WANTED TO MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION, THAT WE WOULD ALLOCATE $50,000 TOWARD THIS PROJECT, WE WOULD, UM, RELY ON HOMESTART TO ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM.

AND WE THINK THAT WITH THE $50,000, AS WELL AS USING A THIRD PARTY VENDOR TO HELP ADMINISTER, WE COULD, UH, PROVIDE UP TO ABOUT 95 OF THESE TYPES OF UNITS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

UM, STAFF HAS IDENTIFIED SOMEHOW SEVERAL OF THE GUIDELINES THAT ARE REQUIRED BY HUD, BUT WE ALSO LISTED A SERIES OF QUESTIONS THAT IF THE COUNCIL WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, I THINK STAFF NEEDS SOME ADDITIONAL DETAILS, SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO HELP US, UH, PRESENT A MORE FORMAL PROGRAM TO THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, IN JANUARY.

SO, SO I GUESS HERE, HERE'S WHAT THE COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR, OR WHAT STAFF'S LOOKING FOR FROM THE COUNCIL IN TERMS OF FEEDBACK.

ONE IS, SHOULD THE CITY IMPLEMENT THIS PILOT PROGRAM, UH, TO IF SO, HOW MUCH

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SO MAYBE THERE'S SOME VALUE IN FOCUSING ON HOUSEHOLDS THAT HAVEN'T HAD COVID, BUT NOW WE'RE GETTING INTO SOME HIPAA REGULATIONS ABOUT WHO HASN'T, WHO DOESN'T HAVE COVID.

SO THERE, THERE ARE SOME ISSUES RELATED TO THAT, BUT WE'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM COUNCIL FEEDBACK ON THAT QUESTION.

UM, THERE IS, THERE IS SOME UPSIDE AND DOWNSIDE OF, UH, THINKING ABOUT A PROGRAM THAT WOULD HAVE MULTIPLE SIZES OF SYSTEMS. UH, THE UPSIDE IS WE GET THE RIGHT SYSTEM FOR THE HOUSE, UH, THAT'S NEEDED THAT IS NEEDED THE MOST, THAT HAD THE MOST VALUE.

UH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT DOES ADD A LOT OF PROCUREMENT PROCESS.

AND, UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY ACTUALLY STARTS DIMINISHING THE AMOUNT OF UNITS THAT CAN BE PURCHASED BECAUSE MORE MONEY WILL BE SPENT ON ADMIN.

UM, THE OTHER QUESTION IS, SHOULD WE MEASURE THE SUCCESS OF THE PROGRAM AND IF SO, HOW, AND IF SO, AND HOW WE KNOW HOW, WHO SHOULD DO THAT.

AND IF IT'S, UM, HOMESTART, WE PROBABLY NEED TO, UH, PROVIDE THEM SOME ADDITIONAL ADMIN FUNNY MONEY TO HELP, UM, WITH THAT PROCESS.

AND THEN THE LAST THING IS, IS THERE, IS THERE A WAY TO LIMIT THIS TO HOUSEHOLD SIZE, TO, UM, APARTMENTS ONLY TO, UM, UH, UH, SORT OF A PROOF OF OVERCROWDING, UH, AGAIN, COMPLICATED AND MAYBE MORE COMPLICATED THAN IT NEEDS TO BE, BUT WE WANTED TO THROW THOSE THINGS UP BECAUSE THESE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN THINKING THROUGH AS WE'VE BEEN BRAINSTORMING ON THIS PROJECT, UH, THAT WE WOULD LIKE SOME COUNCIL INPUT.

IF, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL WANTS TO PURSUE.

AND LASTLY, JUST OTHER FEEDBACK THAT WE HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT, OR EVEN OTHER PROGRAMS THAT THE STAFF HASN'T THOUGHT ABOUT.

SO WITH THAT, UH, MR. MAYOR, I'LL TURN THE TIME BACK OVER TO THE CITY COUNCIL STAFF CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR RESEARCH TO DATE.

UM, OTHERWISE WE LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING SOME FEEDBACK ON YOUR THOUGHTS AND MR. GOBLE, UM, MR. MAYOR, YOU MAY WANT TO LET MR. GOBLE ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE PROJECT ITSELF.

YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, STEVE, WHY DON'T YOU TAKE THAT NOTE? OKAY.

UH, THE IDEA KIND OF CAME FROM, AS I'M WATCHING THE DATA, ALCOHOL AND NATIONAL CITY ARE KIND OF GOING BACK AND FORTH FOR THE FIRST AND SECOND HIGHEST RATE OF COVID AMONG THE 18 CITIES IN THE COUNTY FIRST OR SECOND WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE TIED WITH NATIONAL CITY AND THAT'S LIKE 5,000 CASES.

5% OF ALCOHOL HAS ALREADY TESTED POSITIVE FOR COVID THAT'S, THAT'S REALLY HIGH.

THE COUNTY RATES ONLY 3.3%.

SO THAT CERTAINLY IS A, THERE'S A SENSE OF URGENCY.

AND I BEGAN TO THINK OF WHY, WHY ALCOHOL, WHY NATIONAL CITY, AND, AND CERTAINLY IS GRAM IS, IS CONCENTRATED OR HAS, UH, REPORTED.

I THINK WE DO HAVE SOME LOW-INCOME SITUATIONS IN THESE TWO CITIES IN COMMON AND THE KEEPERS OF THE DATA, HOWEVER, ARE NOT TELLING US, UH, STATS FOR COVID BY CENSUS TRACK.

SO WE COULD KNOW FOR SURE IF LOW-INCOME AREAS ARE DISPROPORTIONATELY HIGHER THAN NOT, WE DON'T, WE DON'T GET THAT DATA.

BUT WHAT WE DO KNOW FROM THE COUNTY DATA, THE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF DECEMBER, THOSE WHO TESTED POSITIVE FOR COVID REPORTED 39% OF THEM SAID, WELL, ANOTHER MEMBER OF MY HOUSEHOLD HAD, I WAS EXPOSED TO THEM.

39% OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TESTED POSITIVE.

THE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF DECEMBER SAID THEY HAD 39% OF THEM SAID THEY WERE AROUND SOMEBODY ELSE IN THE HOUSE AND TESTED POSITIVE.

SO NOW THINKING, OKAY, WE'VE GOT THIS DENSITY ON THE VALLEY FLOOR.

WE KNOW THE NINE TO 12 ZIP CODE IS, IS, UH, ONE OF THE HIGHEST DENSITY WE'VE GOT HOUSEHOLD INFECTION.

WE'VE GOT LOW-INCOME, UH, IN A HIGH DENSITY SITUATION.

THERE'S REALLY NO WAY TO ISOLATE, LIKE YOU CAN IN A 2,800 SQUARE FOOT HOME OR A 2000 SQUARE FOOT HOME.

AND THAT GOT ME THINKING FURTHER.

WHAT IF WE WERE ABLE TO CLEAN THE AIR TO HELP AS ANOTHER TOOL? UH, AGAIN, THE, THE HEALTH ADVISORS, UH, CAN NOT SUPPORT THAT IDEA BECAUSE THEY SAID WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO GET A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY.

AND, UH, SO I'M DISAPPOINTED

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WHAT IS THERE TO LOSE EVEN THE EPA.

THE EPA SAYS WHEN USED ALONG WITH OTHER BEST PRACTICES RECOMMENDED BY CDC AND OTHERS, FILTRATION CAN BE A PART OF A PLAN TO REDUCE THE POTENTIAL FOR AIRBORNE TRANSMISSION OF COVID-19 INDOORS.

THAT'S THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAYING, THIS IS, THIS CAN BE PART OF A GOOD PLAN.

I GUESS FINALLY, I LISTENED TO THREE PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY INCREDIBLE, A HOSPICE NURSE, AND A COUPLE OF FIRST RESPONDERS WHO SAID THEM AND ALCOHOL RIGHT NOW.

AND THE CALLS THEY'RE RESPONDING TO, ESPECIALLY IN APARTMENT COMPLEXES, THEY USE THE WORDS, INFECTION IS ON FIRE.

RIGHT NOW, THERE ARE SOME COMPLEXES THAT HAVE A REALLY HIGH INFECTION RATE BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SEE THEIR FRIENDS NEXT DOOR OR THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS ACROSS THE WAY.

AND THIS A DENSITY THING REALLY IS A CONCERN.

AND SO I'M THINKING, WELL, WE'VE GOT THIS, THIS POOL OF MONEY IS SPECIFICALLY FOR LOW-INCOME PEOPLE TO HELP MITIGATE THE IMPACT OF COVID.

THIS SEEMS LIKE A VERY APPROPRIATE MEASURE TO HELP THEM AND IT'S GRANT MONEY.

AND WE STILL HAVE $200,000 LEFT FROM THE FIRST ROUND FOR LOW-INCOME PEOPLE FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE.

THAT'S NOT USED, AND NOW WE GET ANOTHER ROUND.

SO CERTAINLY WE'VE GOT ROOM TO USE THIS KIND OF A THING.

SO I GUESS I'M SEEING IF WE BELIEVE THE RATE OF COVID-19 IS DISPROPORTIONATELY HIGHER IN LOW-INCOME HOUSEHOLDS, DEFINITELY MAKE SENSE TO HELP THEM WITH EVERY TOOL THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE.

DOES IT HELPING THEM HELP EVERYBODY? AND SO I DO HAVE SOME THOUGHTS TO THE ANSWERS OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I SEE ON THE SCREEN THAT I GUESS I'LL STOP THERE AND THAT OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL WEIGH IN.

OKAY.

STEVE, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU ABOUT THAT.

UM, COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS OR COVETS? THIS IS, OH, GO AHEAD.

CALL GARY GARY.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, HOW LONG BEFORE THESE MACHINES, THESE FILTRATION MACHINES WOULD END UP BEING ON THE STREET.

SO, UM, IF, IF THE COUNCIL GAVE US THE DIRECTION TO WORK ON THIS, WE CAN HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR, UM, THE 13TH OR THE 12TH OF FEBRUARY.

AND I'LL ASK BINS TO JUMP IN IF I'M GETTING THIS WRONG.

UH, WE THINK THAT IF WE ORDERED THE MACHINES ON JANUARY 13TH, IT WOULD TAKE FOUR TO FIVE BUSINESS DAYS TO ARRIVE.

UM, AND THEN WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO GET A HOMESTART TO HELP DISTRIBUTE THOSE THEORETICALLY EASILY BY THE, BY THE END OF JANUARY IS EASY.

OKAY.

HOW DO REST HOMES, CONVALESCENT HOMES, UH, FACTOR IN ON OUR INFECTION RATE? UM, PRETTY HIGH.

IN FACT, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR OUTBREAKS, UH, THEY MAKE UP THE MAJORITY OF OUR OUTBREAKS IN THE CITY.

UH, WE THINK THEY MAKE UP BETWEEN 15 AND 20% OF OUR CURRENT ACTIVE CASES RIGHT NOW.

SO INITIALLY EARLY ON, THEY WERE ABOUT HALF OF OUR CASES THAT THEY'VE DROPPED NOW BECAUSE INFECTION IS, IS COMMUNITY SPREAD.

UH, BUT YOU HAVE TO, UP TO 20% OF OUR, OF OUR CASES ARE, ARE OUT OF SKILLED NURSING FACILITIES OR CONVALESCENT HOMES.

OKAY.

UH, AND I WANT YOU TO TAKE, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE FOR HOMESTART TO QUALIFY PEOPLE AND PLACE THEM IN THAT THAT IS A BIT OF A CHALLENGE RIGHT NOW, THERE IS AN APPLICATION PROCESS AND THERE'S THINGS THAT THEY HAVE TO DO TO MEET HUD REQUIREMENTS.

SO THAT CAN TAKE UP TO, WELL, IT DEPENDS ON HOW GOOD THE APPLICATION IS, RIGHT? SO IF, SO IT COMES IN WITH ALL THEIR PAPERWORK, IT CAN BE OVER THE CALENDAR, BUT RARELY DOES THAT HAPPEN.

SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF BACK AND FORTH.

AND I THINK THE AVERAGE IS AROUND TWO WEEKS OF GETTING ALL THE PAPERWORK AND LINED UP, UM, TO MEET THE HIGH REQUIREMENTS.

SO WHEN ALL THE DUST CLEARS, HOW LONG IS IT BEFORE MOST PEOPLE ACTUALLY HAVE MACHINE IN THEIR HOME? IF WE WERE, I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, I THINK BEFORE THE END OF JANUARY IS FEASIBLE, UM, THAT WE COULD ACTUALLY GET MACHINES OUT ON THE STREET.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

UM, GARY TOOK SOME OF MY QUESTIONS.

UH, SO THANK YOU, GARY.

UM, UH, GRAHAM, YOU SAID

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SO, OKAY.

UM, AND THEN ROUGHLY WHAT'S THE COST, WHAT'S THE INDIVIDUAL COST OF, UH, UH, AIR PURIFIER.

SO IT, I THINK THAT WE KNOW WE, WE DO, UM, I'LL HAVE VINCE WEIGH IN ON THAT, BUT A LOT OF IT DEPENDS ON THE SIZE OF THE UNIT, RIGHT? CAUSE THE UNIT LOOKS AT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF OFF OF A HOUSE, RIGHT.

SO IF YOU WERE TO GET SOMETHING TOO SMALL, YOU THEORETICALLY WOULD HAVE TO GET TWO MACHINES, BUT THEN AT THE SAME TIME YOU HAVE, THERE'S A CHANCE THAT YOU OVERBUY MAYBE TOO BIG.

SO I'LL LET BIDS WEIGH IN ON SOME OF THE RESEARCH THAT HE'S COME UP WITH ON THE RANGES.

THAT SOUNDS SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, SEVERAL DIFFERENT PRODUCTS, UH, PRODUCTS, UM, BASED UPON THE AFFECTED AREA SERVED.

UM, AND THERE ARE LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF THEM, RIGHT? THEY, THEY, THEY GO FROM 300 SQUARE FEET ALL THE WAY UP TO 1500 SQUARE FEET.

AND SO IF WE JUST SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO SERVE AS MUCH OF THE AIR IN A RESIDENTIAL UNIT AS WE CAN.

IF WE JUST SAY FOR EXAMPLE, 1500 SQUARE FOOT UNIT, UM, WE FOUND A, UH, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE ORDERING MANY OF THEM, YOU KNOW, BULK ORDER OF THEM, WE CAN GET IT DOWN TO AROUND $520 TOTAL FOR THAT PARTICULAR UNIT.

OKAY.

SMALLER, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SMALLER UNITS, UM, THAT THEY'RE ALL OVER THE BOARD, 300 SQUARE FEET WE CAN GET FOR $175, 500 SQUARE FEET.

THERE'S PRODUCTS THAT RANGE FROM ABOUT ONE 75 AND TWO 50.

AGAIN, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE EFFICACY OF THE PROGRAM IS, IS, IS REALLY UNKNOWN.

IF WE GO FORWARD WITH THIS, I THINK IT WOULD BE WISE FROM BOTH THE PROCUREMENT AND WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S AN EFFECTIVENESS TO THIS PROGRAM THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION THAT WE WOULD DO SOMETHING THAT, UH, COVERS A LARGE AREA THAT CAN SERVICE AN ENTIRE HOME.

YOU KNOW, LIKE IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LOW INCOME FAMILIES, TYPICALLY THOSE HOMES ARE SMALLER SQUARE FEET.

UM, IF WE LOOK AT THE PRODUCT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT SERVES 1500 SQUARE FEET, WE'D BE IN THE $500 RANGE.

OTHERWISE WE'RE LOOKING AT A HOST OF DIFFERENT COMPANIES, DIFFERENT MANUFACTURERS, DIFFERENT WAYS TO LAY OUR HANDS ON THOSE UNITS THAT, THAT MAY EXPAND THE TIMEOUT.

WE'LL EXTEND THE TIME OUT A LITTLE BIT.

THANKS VINCE.

THAT'S GOOD INFO.

AND THEN, UM, I'M KIND OF STRUGGLING WITH, UM, HOW WE MEASURE SUCCESS, UM, WITH THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM, BECAUSE, AND MAYBE THIS IS WHERE THE DISCUSSION COMES IN, BECAUSE IF WE, IF WE, I MEAN, THERE'S SO MANY VARIABLES TO DETERMINE THAT CAN, THAT CAN CONTRIBUTE TO IF SOMEONE CONTRACTS COVID-19.

UM, AND SO IT'S, IT'S VERY HARD.

I, IN MY HEAD, IT'S VERY HARD TO DETERMINE AND MEASURE SUCCESS WITH REGARD TO, YOU KNOW, W IF WE BUY A FILTER, IF SOMEONE GETS A FILTRATION SYSTEM AND THEY STILL END UP GETTING COVID, UM, YOU KNOW, THEN THAT FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY THING PROBABLY CAME IN AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE INTERACTING WITH THEIR FAMILY MEMBER.

AND THAT VIRAL LOAD IS GETTING UP THERE IN THEIR LUNGS, UM, TO A CERTAIN DEGREE, OR, YOU KNOW, IF THEY, IF WE GET AN AIR FILTRATION SYSTEM FOR SOMEONE, UM, BEF BEFORE THE HOUSEHOLD GETS COVID, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT MIGHT JUST BE THEM TAKING THE EXTRA PRECAUTIONS.

AND IT MEAN, SO IT'S, IT'S VERY HARD FOR ME TO DETERMINE SUCCESS.

AND THEN, I MEAN, THERE'S ALWAYS THE FEAR, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE, UM, INCOME FAMILIES.

I WAS ONE OF THOSE FAMILIES AND THE TEMPTATION TO JUST GO ON THE STREET AND SELL ONE OF THESE ON EBAY, OR TURN A PROFIT.

THERE'S ALWAYS THAT TEMPTATION THERE, THAT, THAT RISK OF SOMEONE JUST SELLING THESE $500 UNITS OR MORE.

UM, SO I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE WITH THIS PROGRAM.

SO IT'S, UM, IT'S KIND OF, UM, MAKING ME, UH, HESITANT.

YEAH.

SO I HAD SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT, AND I AGREE WITH YOU, THAT'S THE TROUBLING PART ABOUT THIS? IT'S AN INTERESTING IDEA.

I THINK IT'S CREATIVE IN SOME WAYS, VERY PRACTICAL.

UM, I THINK THE HARD PART IS, IS TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE WASTING YOUR MONEY.

IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE.

UM, IF I WAS AN APPROPRIATE WORLD, I'D

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THERE WERE PEOPLE LIVING IN THEM WITH THEM WITHOUT THE SYSTEM.

AND THEN, AND THEN DO A STUDY OF THAT.

I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN DOING AND PUBLISHING, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT THEN MAKES IT SO COMPLICATED AND CUMBERSOME THAT YOU CAN'T DO THE PROGRAM.

SO THAT WAS ONE OF MY THOUGHTS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GRABBING A MIGHT, UM, GIVE ME YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT OR EVENTS.

WELL, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

I MEAN, THAT, I THINK THAT PROGRAM WOULD BE IN PLACE BY THE TIME THE BACK EVERYONE'S VACCINATED AT THAT POINT.

RIGHT.

CAUSE WE'D HAVE TO FIND THAT ENTITY AND I THINK THAT'D BE A BIG PILL.

YEAH.

SO I GUESS, YOU KNOW, WE JUST ADD THAT AT SOME POINT THAT WE JUST HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND, AND JUST NOT HAVE THE SATISFACTION OF, OF HAVING ANY KIND OF PROOF THAT IT WORKS.

AND I THINK IT'S A SMALL ENOUGH AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT, THAT THAT'S NOT, UM, AUTEURIST I HAVE SOME COMMENTS.

YEAH.

GREAT.

MICHELLE, GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

SO THIS IS JUST SORT OF OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

I'M JUST GOING TO PUT THEM UP THERE AND THEN WE CAN DISCUSS THEM.

SO AS I'M SORT OF WRITING DOWN IDEAS, SO FIRST OF ALL, WE CAN'T REGULATE THE COMINGS AND GOINGS OF HOUSEHOLDS.

SO WE WERE TO BUY THIS AND PUT IT IN A HOUSEHOLD.

WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER IF, IF THAT PARTICULAR HOUSEHOLD IS USING ALL THE OTHER PRECAUTIONS ALONG WITH IT, BECAUSE PER THE EPA, AND LIKE STEVE MENTIONED, AND SOMEONE ELSE HAS MENTIONED THAT FILTRATION ALONE IS NOT ENOUGH, AND IT HAS TO BE COMBINED WITH BEST PRACTICES, BUT WE CAN'T REGULATE THAT KATE, THE NEXT ONE, IF WE ARE UNABLE TO ISOLATE, OR IF SOMEONE HAS COVID IN A HOUSEHOLD AND THEY ARE UNABLE TO ISOLATE HOW MANY UNITS WOULD HAVE TO BE PLACED IN A HOME TO BE EFFECTIVE CONSIDERING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF, UM, THE DWELLING.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WOULD, WE KIND OF DISCUSSED THAT A LITTLE BIT, HOW MANY UNITS WOULD BE NEEDED PER THAT HOUSEHOLD.

THE NEXT ONE IS, IS THERE ANY OTHER DATA BESIDES WHAT THE EPA THAT SHOWS THAT AIR FILTERS ARE EFFECTIVE? AND IF YOU HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT OF A HOME, IT MAY REQUIRE MULTIPLE UNITS AGAIN, TYING IN TO OTHER COMMENTS.

AND, AND BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, I DO WANT TO SAY, THIS IS, THIS IS A NICE IDEA.

AND IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, IT COULD POTENTIALLY BE HELPFUL TO A FAMILY, BUT LET ME CONTINUE ON.

I JUST WANT TO SAY, I DON'T WANT TO SEEM HEARTLESS.

UM, THE NEXT ONE IS WHAT WOULD KEEP THE RECIPIENTS LIKE PHIL SAID, WHAT WOULD KEEP THE RECIPIENTS FROM SELLING THE UNITS? IF YOU'VE GOT TO PAY RENT, OR YOU HAVE TO BUY GROCERIES, $500 A UNIT THAT'LL BUY A LOT OF GROCERIES.

UM, AND THEN, UH, HOW EXPENSIVE ARE THE REPLACEMENT FILTERS? BECAUSE YOU'RE WORKING TO PUT THESE IN THE HOUSEHOLD.

I IMAGINE WE'RE GIVING THEM THIS UNIT AND NOT ASKING FOR IT BACK.

SO THEY WOULD HAVE THE UNIT.

NOW THEY'RE GOING TO BE CHARGED WITH NOT CHARGED, BUT THEY WOULD BE TASKED WITH BUYING REPLACEMENT FILTERS.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE REPLACED.

UM, IF THEY'VE GOT THREE, FOUR FAMILIES LIVING IN ONE HOUSEHOLD, I IMAGINE NOT, UH, AN APARTMENT, BUT STILL, IF YOU'VE GOT SEVERAL PEOPLE LIVING IN ONE AREA, IT'S GOING TO HAVE A HEAVY LOAD COMING IN.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO REPLACE THOSE FILTERS A LOT MORE OFTEN, IF YOU'RE ALREADY CASH STRAPPED AND THOSE FILTERS ARE $125, $50, $25 CAN MAKE THE DIFFERENCE.

WHETHER SOMEONE HAS DINNER THAT NIGHT OR THEY NEED TO HAVE THE FILTER.

SO ARE WE GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR GIVING THEM REPLACEMENT FILTERS FOR AS LONG AS WE HAVE COVID.

UM, AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

I JUST KIND OF WANT TO THROW THESE THINGS OUT, UM, AND WHATEVER YOU WANT TO COME BACK ON.

THAT'S A GOOD POINT, MICHELLE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

UM, WHY DON'T WE TAKE A LITTLE BREAK AND ASK ANGELA IF WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS.

SO WE DO, WE RECEIVED THREE COMMENTS AND THEN A COUPLE OF MISCELLANEOUS COMMENTS.

SO I'LL JUST READ THEM AT THE END OF THESE.

BUT THE FIRST ONE IS FROM MICHELLE SWEETMAN AND SHE WRITES, I'D LIKE TO SAY

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AT THIS TIME, WE COULD REALLY USE SOME OF THE ALLOCATED FUNDS FOR SALONS AND GYMS AND RESTAURANTS THAT HAVE BEEN HIT HARD BY THIS AND HAVE BEEN CLOSED THE MOST, THE LAST CITY OF OKLAHOMA GRANT, I WAS NOT AWARDED BECAUSE MY LICENSE RENEWAL FEE WAS LATE AS IT WAS DONE ONLINE.

AND I DIDN'T RECEIVE NOTICE.

I'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS IN THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA FOR 15 YEARS AND HAVE NEVER HAD A LAPSE IN PAYMENT UNTIL THIS YEAR.

NEEDLESS TO SAY, I RECEIVED NO GRANTS AT ALL FOR MY STRUGGLING SALON, YET GAS STATIONS AND BUSINESSES THAT WEREN'T EVEN SHUT DOWN, RECEIVED THEM.

I'M HOPING SOME MORE OF THE FUNDS CAN HELP THE SMALL BUSINESS WITH FOREST CLOSURES, ESPECIALLY THIS TIME AROUND.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

NEXT COMMENT, JOE ALEXANDRIA, THANK YOU TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR TAKING, TAKING THE HOME VALLEY UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT INTO CONSIDERATION FOR THIS GRANT.

OUR STUDENT POPULATION IS UNIQUE AND DIVERSE AS COMPARED TO MANY SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE NATION.

IN 2016, WE AT CAHONE VALLEY WERE RECEIVING UP TO NEARLY 200 STUDENTS WEEKLY COMING IN FROM THE WAR TORN AREAS OF THE MIDDLE EAST.

ALSO HAVE NEARLY 17,000 STUDENTS, 13,000 QUALIFY FOR FREE AND REDUCED LUNCH.

MOST RESIDING IN THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA.

A GIFT OF PPE SUPPLIES FROM THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA WOULD BENEFIT OUR FAMILIES.

WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE CONSIDERATION AND WHATEVER THE DECISION.

NO, IT WILL SERVE BEST FOR ALL.

THANK YOU.

NEXT COMMENT FROM CAROL LEWIS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR WILSON, COUNCIL MEMBERS, HAPPY HOLIDAYS.

MY NAME IS CARA LEWIS.

THANK YOU FOR LOOKING AT THEIR FILTER SYSTEMS TO PREVENT THE SPREAD OF COVID-19.

WE ARE THRILLED THAT THERE ARE VACCINES COMING AND THAT THEY WILL HELP REDUCE THE SPREAD OF THIS TERRIBLE DISEASE.

I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE EXPERTS ON PURCHASING AIR FILTER SYSTEMS TO REDUCE THE SPREAD ON THOSE.

THEY ARE VERY EXPENSIVE SYSTEMS. THEY CAN DO MORE THAN JUST RESEARCH, COLLATE THE AIR IN ONE ROOM, THE SCIENTIST AND HEALTH, HER WORKERS STILL RECOMMEND WEARING MASKS, KEEPING A SAFE DISTANCE FROM OTHERS AND PRACTICING FREQUENT HAND WASHING.

I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS BEING ENCOURAGED FROM THE CITY OFFICIALS YESTERDAY YESTERDAY'S EVENT SHOWN ON THE NEWS, HAD GROUPS OF PEOPLE WITHOUT MASKS AND NOT PRACTICING SOCIAL DISTANCING RESTAURANTS AND BUSINESSES ARE BEING ENCOURAGED TO OPEN.

AND PEOPLE ARE NOT FOLLOWING THESE GUIDELINES.

IT HAS BEEN ENCOURAGED FOR HOMES TO KEEP WINDOWS OPEN AND SEPARATE FAMILY MEMBERS WHO ARE SHOWING SYMPTOMS. MANY OF OUR HOUSEHOLDS ARE MULTI-GENERATIONAL AND IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO PROTECT OUR SENIORS AND MORE VULNERABLE FAMILY MEMBERS WHO ARE AT PARTIES, GATHERINGS, AND EVEN SHOPPING FOR THE HOLIDAYS ARE BRINGING THE VIRUS HOME.

I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT WAYS TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC, CONTINUE TO ASSIST WITH RENTAL PAYMENTS THAT ARE LONG OVERDUE, PROVIDE MOTEL VOUCHERS AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE DURING THESE CHALLENGING TIMES.

AND WE HAVE TWO MORE COMMENTS FROM JOHN BAILEY, HOMELESSNESS, HOMELESSNESS, HOMELESSNESS.

I OWN A HOME IN THIS CITY, SECOND DISTRICT FOR THE PAST ONE AND A HALF YEARS.

AND I'M SICK OF THE MENTALLY DERANGED AND DRUGGED UP HOMELESS PEOPLE WANDERING MAIN STREET AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS.

I HONESTLY HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH AN EYESORE IN MY ENTIRE 47 YEARS ON OUR PLANET.

WHEN PEOPLE COME OUTSIDE THE CITY PASS THROUGH AND SEE THESE PEOPLE LAYING ABOUT WITH LITTLE SHANTY TOWNS AND SHOPPING CARDS WITH THEIR BELONGINGS IN PLAIN SIGHT, THEY RIGHTFULLY ASSUME THAT NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE CITY ENOUGH TO CLEAN IT UP.

AND IF NO ONE RUNNING THE CITY DOES, WHY SHOULD THEY? OKLAHOMA SAID DIRTY WORD TO OTHER RESIDENTS OF SAN DIEGO COUNTY.

ARE YOU AS A CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR CONTENT WITH THIS QUESTION, MARK, CLEAN THIS UP, DO IT LIKE YOU'RE A PROUD RESIDENT OF THE CITY.

REMEMBER THAT THE HOMELESS COVERAGE ON THE CITY BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY CAN.

AND THE LAST COMMENT IS FROM STEPHANIE HARPER.

I FEEL THE NEED TO BRING THIS UP ONCE AGAIN, BECAUSE IT IS SO VITALLY IMPORTANT TO OUR COMMUNITY.

IF THERE IS A NEED TO REGISTER OUR CHILDREN FOR SCHOOL AND MAKE SURE THEIR ADDRESS IS WITHIN THAT DISTRICT.

ISN'T IT JUST AS IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO THAT FOR A COUNCIL MEMBER, EVEN THE ATTEMPT TO DO DECEIVE THE PUBLIC OR THE GOVERNMENT SHOWS THEIR WILLINGNESS NOT TO PLAY FAIR.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK COUNCIL IF THEY WOULD CONSIDER PUTTING IN A MUNICIPAL CODE IN OUR ELECTIONS CODE, THAT THERE'D BE A RESIDENTIAL PREREQUISITE CHECK TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE RUNNING FOR COUNCIL LIVE IN THAT DISTRICT.

I BELIEVE THAT IF WE STAND BY AND DO NOTHING, THE SAME PROBLEMS WILL ARISE AND SOONER THAN LATER, WE'RE GOING TO ENCOUNTER THAT PROBLEM.

I BELIEVE THAT THIS WOULD BE A JOB FOR OUR CITY ATTORNEY WHO IS MORE THAN QUALIFIED AND MORE THAN CAPABLE OF HANDLING THIS ISSUE.

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AND LET'S REMEMBER THAT HONESTY IS ALWAYS THE BEST POLICY, ESPECIALLY IN OUR GOVERNMENT.

WE WANT OKLAHOMA CITY TO SHINE.

THAT'S THE END OF THE COMMENTS ARE, THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I, I DO THINK STEPHANIE HARPER IS CORRECT ON THIS AND LIKE GRAHAM, I'D LIKE TO TALK WITH YOU, UH, ABOUT WHAT OUR OPTIONS WOULD BE FOR THAT AT ANOTHER TIME.

OKAY.

UM, BACK TO THE, UM, THE QUESTION, STEVE, YOU SAID YOU WANTED TO ANSWER SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS.

WELL, UH, I GUESS TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION OF SOME OF THE OTHER COMMENTS, A GOOD QUESTION IS WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE NOW, LIKE WITH, UH, THE CARERS THAT MONEY USED FOR MOTEL VOUCHERS? WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE WHEN WE USE NORTEL VOUCHERS WITH KAREN'S MONEY, PRESUMABLY ARE USING THE TELL VOUCHERS TO, UH, TO ISOLATE PEOPLE FROM CONTRACTING THE VIRUS AND PLACES THEY MIGHT BE HOMELESS OR OTHER THINGS.

SO, UH, IT IS DIFFICULT TO MEASURE SUCCESS WITH MANY OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY SPENT MONEY ON.

IF WE WERE TO ISSUE A PPE EQUIPMENT, UH, MASKS AND THINGS, HOW DO WE HAVING MEASURE SUCCESS? HOW DO YOU MEASURE SUCCESS OF A VACCINE, A VACCINE AS A PREVENTATIVE MEASURE? FORTUNATELY AT THE END OF THE STUDY, YOU HAVE RESULTS TO SAY WHO CAUGHT IT AND WHO DIDN'T CATCH IT IN THE SAME WAY.

THIS IS KIND OF LIKE ONE OF THOSE PPE OR VACCINE THINGS THAT AT THE END WE WOULD SAY OF THOSE THAT WERE ISSUED THESE THINGS, WHAT WAS THE RATE OF INFECTION? IF WE GAVE IT AS A PREVENTIVE MEASURE, THAT ANYBODY IN THE HOUSEHOLD CONTRACTED IN AN AREA THAT WE KNOW IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST IN THE COUNTY FOR TRANSMISSION, AND WE KNOW HIGHER DENSITY IS CATCHING IT, WE KNOW HOUSEHOLDS.

SO SUCCESS, UH, WOULD HAVE TO BE A POST LOOK JUST LIKE VACCINES, HOW MANY PEOPLE CAUGHT IT.

AND THERE'S NO GUARANTEE WITH A VACCINE.

THERE'S NO GUARANTEE WITH THIS.

YOU, IS IT A, A REASONABLE PREVENTATIVE MEASURE I GUESS IS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS? COULD SOMEBODY SELL THESE ON THE STREET? OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD, UH, THEY COULDN'T SELL IT FOR 500 BUCKS.

UH, CAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S THE STREET RATE, THAT'S THE PURCHASE RATE? WHAT WOULD THEY SELL IT FOR A HUNDRED BUCKS MAYBE? UH, WOULD THEY ACTUALLY GO TO DO THAT? I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S POSSIBILITY, UM, FILTERS.

I UNDERSTAND THAT REALLY KIND OF, WE'RE LOOKING FOR A PREVENTATIVE MEASURE FOR PROBABLY ONE TO FIVE MONTHS, BECAUSE I THINK REALLY BY, BY JUNE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A HERD IMMUNITY THROUGH VACCINATION.

AND SO I, I KIND OF HAVE A HUNCH THAT FELT IT WAS GOING TO LAST US FIVE MONTHS.

UH, HOW DO WE GET THESE OUT TO PEOPLE WHILE WE KNOW 88 PEOPLE ALREADY WHO QUALIFIED, WHO GOT RENTAL ASSISTANCE? SO CERTAINLY WE COULD START WITH THOSE 88 PEOPLE THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN ACCEPTED, THEY'VE ALREADY RECEIVED ASSISTANCE.

AND, UH, WOULD THAT HELP IN THAT SETTING? WOULD THEY QUALIFY, UH, THE SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA HOUSING RENTAL HOUSING ASSOCIATION HAS OFFERED, UH, WITH ANY OF OUR CARES FUNDING FOR LOW-INCOME PEOPLE TO GET THE WORD OUT.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE USED THEM AS A RESOURCE YET, BUT THEY ARE THE ASSOCIATION, WHICH HAS THE LANDLORDS OF MULTI-FAMILY COMPLEXES AND ALCOHOL.

AND THAT'S A QUICK WAY TO GET WORD OUT TO PEOPLE.

UH, I GUESS LOOKING AT THESE QUESTIONS HERE, UH, HOW MUCH TO ALLOCATE, I THINK 50,000 IS REASONABLE IT'S GRANT MONEY.

IT FULFILLS THE PURPOSE OF EMISSION OF THE MONEY.

I WOULD PROBABLY SUGGEST PREVENTATIVE MEASURES RATHER THAN THOSE WHO HAVE ALREADY TESTED POSITIVE.

I KIND OF AGREE WITH THE CITY MANAGER THAT BY THE TIME YOU GET ONE OF THESE UNITS TO A HOUSEHOLD WHERE SOMEBODY HAS ALREADY TESTED POSITIVE BY THEN, WHOEVER IS IN THE HOUSEHOLD IS GOING TO GET IT OR NOT GET IT.

SO IT'S PROBABLY TOO LATE IN THE NIGHT, BUT A MEASURE.

I THINK THAT IS HOW SOME THINGS, UH, SHOULD THE CITY MEASURE THE PROGRAM SUCCESS.

AND IF SO, HOW YES.

DID YOU GET CALLED IN? DID ANYBODY IN YOUR HOUSE GET COVID AFTER USING A FILTRATION SYSTEM? AGAIN, THAT'S KIND OF MURKY BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN AUTOMATIC SYSTEM THAT, THAT JUST DOESN'T AUTOMATICALLY DO THEY HAVE TO DO ANYTHING? DO THEY TURN IT OFF? DO THEY TURN IT ON? AND OUR HOME, WE HAVE A SYSTEM FOR 800 SQUARE FEET AND IT IS AUTOMATIC AND

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AND IT TELLS US WHEN THEY CHANGED THE FILTERS.

SO AT FOUR OCCUPANTS, WE HAVEN'T HAD TO CHANGE THE FILTER YET, BUT HERE'S AN IMPORTANT ONE.

SHOULD THE PROGRAM BE LIMITED? I WAS LIVING IN AN APARTMENT OR A SPECIFIC SIZE HOME, I THINK.

YES.

AND HERE'S WHY IT'S THE DENSITY.

THAT'S THE ISSUE.

IF YOU LIVE IN A LARGE HOME, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO GO DOWN TO THE END OF THE HALL AND TO YOUR, TO YOUR BEDROOM.

YOU PERHAPS USING A SEPARATE BATHROOM, A FOUR BEDROOM, TWO BEDROOM, TWO BATHROOM HOUSE IS DIFFERENT THAN A TWO BEDROOM, ONE BATH APARTMENT.

SO I GUESS I AM KIND OF LOOKING AT PERHAPS A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET OR LESS WHETHER THAT'S AN APARTMENT OR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.

AND I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY A KEY THAT WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT YET IS THE SIZE OF THE UNIT.

I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE THE DENSITY AND THE AFFECTION IS HAPPENING MORE SO THAN OTHER PLACES.

THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

UH, MORE COMMENTS FROM THE COUNCIL, UH, QUESTION FOR THE STAFF, UH, HOW LONG, UH, HOW LONG BEFORE THE PEOPLE AT HIGH RISK WOULD BE VACCINATED? WELL, I MEAN, IF YOU, IF YOU LISTEN TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, UH, I THINK THE GOAL IS TO HAVE, UH, A BIG CHUNK OF THE POPULATION, AT LEAST THE VERBAL NUMBERS OF THE POPULATION, UH, WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.

SO AT LEAST BY THE NEXT SIX MONTHS.

SO, YOU KNOW, ONE THING THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MONEY WHEN WE CAN USE MONEY, IT HAS TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE.

AND I'M CONCERNED THAT WHEN THE RENT MORATORIUM IS OVER, THEY'RE GOING TO BE A LOT OF EVICTIONS.

AND, UH, I REALLY WANT TO KEEP FAMILIES FROM LIVING IN THE BUSHES AND, UH, NOT ONLY DO WE HELP THE FAMILIES, WE ALSO HELP THE LANDLORDS KEEP THE PROPERTIES.

SO, AND WE'RE SURE THAT'S EFFECTIVE BECAUSE IT KEEPS THEM FROM GETTING EVICTED.

AND I THINK BEING IN A MOTEL ROOM EMERGENCY MOTEL ROOM WAS SAFER THAN AGAIN, THE FAMILY LIVING IN THE BUSHES AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE A HUGE UPSURGE, UH, WHEN THE MORATORIUM HAS LEFT, THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T PAID RENT SINCE MARCH AND THAT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT'S GOING TO REALLY AFFECT THE ECONOMY AND THEIR QUALITY OF LIVES.

AND, UH, TO ME, HOUSING HAS TO BE KIND OF NUMBER ONE, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA KEEP PEOPLE SAFE.

AND, UH, I, I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE, UH, HIGH RISK WILL PROBABLY BE VACCINATED BY MARCH AND THEN THE REST OF THE POPULATION LATER ON.

UM, SO I THINK THE BIGGEST BANG FOR THE BUCK IS KEEPING PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES OR AT LEAST, UH, IN A MOTEL SITUATION, KEEPING A ROOF OVER THEIR HEADS.

AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WOMEN AND CHILDREN AND, UH, A LOT OF NEWCOMERS THAT JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THINGS WORKING IN THE STATES.

AND THAT I THINK WE NEED TO, UH, AS SOMEONE SAID, UH, ADVERTISE THE FACT THAT THIS MONEY IS AVAILABLE.

WE CAN EVEN, I THINK WE CAN, UH, BUY, UH, MAILING LISTS OF PEOPLE WITHIN THE CITY OF OKLAHOMA, UH, WHERE THE UNLAWFUL DETAINER, UH, HAS BEEN FILED.

IN FACT, ONCE YOU GET AN UNLAWFUL DETAINER ON YOUR RECORD, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO RENT IT.

A PERMANENT BUILDING IS BECAUSE OF THE INTERNET.

THE LANDLORD CAN CHECK RIGHT AWAY AND NOT ONLY DOES IT RUIN THEIR CREDIT, IT RUINS THEIR ABILITY TO FIND ANOTHER PLACE TO LIVE.

SO MY NUMBER ONE CONCERN IS KEEPING PEOPLE HOUSED, MR. MAYOR, UH, BOTH, BOTH MR AND MR. KENDRICK TALKED ABOUT GETTING THE WORD OUT OF OUR CURRENT PROGRAM.

I JUST WANTED THE COUNCIL TO KNOW THAT WE SEND OUT AN EMAIL TO EVERY RESTAURANT OWNER ON, UM, FRIDAY, UH, LETTING THEM KNOW ABOUT OUR PROGRAM, THAT THEY COULD PASS THIS INFORMATION ALONG TO THEIR EMPLOYEES, BECAUSE WE KNOW THOSE ARE SOME VULNERABLE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AND THEN A LETTER IS ACTUALLY GOING OUT TODAY.

IT'S BEEN, AND WE'LL BE GOING OUT TO, UM, BOTH THE PSAR AND ALSO TO THE SAN DIEGO APARTMENT ASSOCIATION.

AND IT WILL ACTUALLY INCLUDE, UH, FLYERS THAT THEY CAN PHOTOCOPY OR EMAIL TO THEIR TENANTS.

SO THEY'LL GIVE IT TO THEIR MEMBERSHIP AND THEY CAN SEND IT TO THEIR TENANTS TO GET THE WORD OUT ON THE STREET.

SO, UM, WE RECOGNIZE THAT SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS AND PRESS RELEASES IS NOT THE DIRECT MARKETING THAT WE NEED.

WE NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE A SURGICAL

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SO WE'RE, WE'RE TAKING THOSE RIGHT NOW.

I THINK STEVE, THAT'S WHAT I'M USING THE APARTMENTS.

PROBABLY A GOOD ONE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, TO A QUESTION FOR GARY, WE STILL HAVE $200,000 UNCLAIMED FROM THE FIRST ROUND WE HAVE OVER 600,000 UNALLOCATED FROM THIS ROUND, PROBABLY GOING TO GET MORE FROM LEGISLATION THAT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE SIGNED TODAY.

SO ANYBODY WHO WANTS MONEY COULD HAVE RECEIVED MONEY AT THIS POINT.

YEAH.

I, I THINK THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T RECEIVED A, UM, NOTICE OF EVICTION DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT.

WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE NEWCOMERS THAT AREN'T VERY SOPHISTICATED IN HOW THINGS WORK, UH, IN THE UNITED STATES.

A LOT OF THEM ARE, YOU KNOW, DONE TO SPEAK ENGLISH.

SO, UH, AND I THINK THE FLOOD IS GOING TO BE COMING PROBABLY IN MARCH OF, UH, ALL THE EVICTIONS COMMENTS FROM OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.

THIS IS A QUESTION FOR STAFF.

I KNOW WE DID THE BIZ, THE RANDOM BUSINESS GRANTS DOES THIS CURRENT CBDG MONEY THAT WE HAVE ALLOW FOR MORE BUSINESS GRANTS OR THEY DO.

THEY DO NOT.

THEY'RE EXPRESSLY LIMITED TO LOW INCOME INDIVIDUALS.

NOW, IF A BUSINESS CAN QUALIFY, THEN, THEN THEY COULD SEEK ASSISTANCE FOR RENTAL OR MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE, BUT NOT FROM A BUSINESS LOAN.

RIGHT.

GOT IT.

OKAY.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO HOW EFFECTIVE OR NOT EFFECTIVE, I KNOW THE COUNTY HAS A DIFFERENT POT OF MONEY THAT THEY'RE GIVING FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE, CORRECT? YEAH.

THERE'S MANY GOVERNMENTS AT DIFFERENT LEVELS DO HAVE THESE FUNDS.

OKAY.

SO THE COUNTY HAS BEEN REALLY, REALLY SLOW AND GETTING OUT MONEY FOR PEOPLE WHO APPLIED BACK IN SEPTEMBER.

AND IT WAS JUST ABLE TO HELP ONE OF THE CITIZENS WITH THAT.

AND SHE'S THE MONEY FOR HER RENTAL ASSISTANT IS FINALLY BEING MAILED OUT ON MONDAY.

NOW THIS IS OVER THREE MONTHS THAT SHE HAS BEEN STRUGGLING AND WAITING FOR MONEY TO COME FROM THE COUNTY.

IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE HAVE SOMEWHAT OF A BACKLOG FOR HOMESTART OR SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, ENTITIES WHO ARE DISTRIBUTING THAT MONEY AND THAT'S WHY THAT MONEY HAS NOT BEEN DISTRIBUTED YET? WELL, SO AS YOU RECALL, THE COUNCIL MAY RECALL WE HAD THREE DIFFERENT VENDORS THAT WERE HELPING US, AND THE REALITY IS ONE VENDOR WAS REALLY GOOD AND THE OTHER TWO, NOT AS GOOD.

SO WE WE'LL BE SHIFTING MONEY FROM THE OTHER TWO INTO HOMESTART.

SO WE THINK THAT THAT WILL HELP SPEED UP THE FLOW.

THE COUNCIL ALSO GAVE, UM, UH, OUR VENDORS, UM, A LARGER ALLOCATION OF ADMIN MONEY.

AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, THE CITY OF LAMESA USED HIS CARER ZACK MONEY AND ACTUALLY HIRED A PERSON THAT, THAT, UM, EXCLUSIVE FOR, FOR HOMESTART.

SO HOMESTART HIRED SOMEBODY WITH LAMESA AS MONEY, SO THEY COULD ACTUALLY PROCESS THINGS QUICKER.

SO WE ARE A BIT HAMSTRUNG BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN FRUGAL ON OUR ADMIN MONEY CAUSE WE WANT MONEY TO GET TO THE INDIVIDUALS.

THE CHALLENGE THOUGH, IS WE DO THAT.

YOU DO LIMIT THE ABILITY TO GET THE MONEY OUT.

SO THAT, THAT IS A BIT OF THE BALANCING ACT.

I WOULDN'T RECOMMEND, WE CHANGE THE COURSE RIGHT NOW UNTIL WE SEE HOW WELL HOME START CAN PERFORM.

UM, THEY HAVE THE ADDITIONAL ADMIN MONEY WE'RE GIVING THEM THE INITIAL FUNDING AND WE'RE FOCUSING ON A MORE, UM, I GUESS, PRECISE WAY OF GETTING THE MARKETING OF THE PROGRAM TO PEOPLE THAT REALLY NEED IT.